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Speaker 1: head out to Las Vegas and get the win over

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Thirty four to ten is the final score.

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Speaker 1: Matal In Burke here with the Super Bowl champion Moni

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Speaker 1: toom Or recapping this one too. I think we got

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Speaker 1: to start with the offense getting points on the board.

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart two hundred seven yards passing, adding another forty

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Speaker 1: eight with his legs, and two rushing touchdowns. What'd you

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Speaker 1: like from what you saw from the rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I just liked that it looked a lot easier. You know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes the completions were coming easily every time you did

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Speaker 2: use his feet, except for the one touchdown, It didn't

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Speaker 2: look like he was taking on these massive shots. It

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Speaker 2: just seemed like he was much more in control, in

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Speaker 2: command of the offense, and all that together just breeds

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Speaker 2: confidence in us me as a fan watching, but it

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Speaker 2: also must do a lot for that locker room, the

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Speaker 2: way he's distributing the ball and really getting a lot

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Speaker 2: of people involved in the game plan, spreading the ball

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Speaker 2: around and getting Wandale Robinson, who has had a quietly sneaky,

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Speaker 2: sneaky productive season this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean sneaky productive season to say the least.

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Speaker 1: He had his first thousand yard receiving season after getting

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen yards today. Coming into this game,

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Speaker 1: he needed just ninety nine receiving yards to hit that

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Speaker 1: thousand yard mark. It's a big mark for a receiver,

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Speaker 1: and you could tell from the jump Jackson Dart was

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Speaker 1: He only needed two coming out of the break in

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Speaker 1: But when you've got a player like that, Jackson Dart saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's my guy.

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Speaker 1: I want him to accomplish that goal as a receiver.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you are the Giants all time leading receiver.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of players get a thousand yard receiving seasons.

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Speaker 1: How much does that mean for one Dale to get

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Speaker 2: It's like a validation stamp on the season that it's

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Speaker 2: you were productive, not only one game, not two games,

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Speaker 2: not five to seven, the entire season. You were putting

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Speaker 2: in work and a body of work is much more

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Speaker 2: able to stack a season together like that, on top

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Speaker 2: that just lets you know that you can get open,

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Speaker 2: you understand defenses, You have the courage to go across

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Speaker 1: Right, ninety two receptions and counting on the year you

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Speaker 1: usage that we've seen of Onondale Robinson, especially since the

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Speaker 2: When you're pushed into being more and then you you know,

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Speaker 2: not just an inside guy. Kaf could excuse me. Coach

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Speaker 2: Kevka talked about early in the year he was no

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Speaker 2: it just shows that it was one thing for a

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Speaker 2: opportunity and he took advantage of it. And there's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last season, there was what three different quarterbacks this season,

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Speaker 2: from underneath the center looked at Wandelle Robinson as an asset.

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Speaker 2: How to get in here?

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Speaker 1: If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Bud Citizens, does it makes sense of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an incredible ass that he was for this team

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Speaker 1: as they get the win thirty four to ten. We

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Speaker 1: there the rookie Darius Alexander getting a sack. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: course Dane Belton coming up with another takeaway as well.

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Speaker 1: Takeaways coming into this season of money were such a

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Speaker 2: I mean, you met, you met, You mentioned Charlie bow

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Speaker 2: There's very few blown assignments. The tackling is way better.

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Speaker 2: So this is they're getting the most out of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense definitely playing inspired in recent weeks. I

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Speaker 1: We saw how jazzed he was and gassed after running

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Speaker 1: That's a huge play for a team, right, especially special teams.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's very hard because that it's not just how

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Speaker 1: But you know, you look at you look at the

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Speaker 1: That's an expression used pretty regularly around special teams especially.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's when you know. There's only when you well

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Speaker 2: So a hat on a hat means you're you're blocking

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Speaker 2: And that was definitely a positive play in his career.

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Speaker 2: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

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Speaker 2: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should talk

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Speaker 2: to citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care I'd

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Speaker 2: like to learn about AMOLLI routine. Yes, I knew I

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Speaker 1: Positive play indeed, and a pivotal one in the third

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Speaker 1: Of course, they'd go on to win this one thirty

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Speaker 1: for Mike Kafka, the interim head coach, getting his first

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Speaker 1: This is what you play for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, we were talking about it. You look

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Speaker 2: though they've had a season that does not represent that.

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Speaker 2: It just goes to show that playing the game is

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and the Giants will have one more opportunity to

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for another solid performance by Jackson Dart. I'm

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Speaker 2: to need to continue to execute at a high level.

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Speaker 2: I want to see Jackson Dart not take the big

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Speaker 2: So those are the type of things that I'm looking for.

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Speaker 2: and that's evident after today's game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an inspired team that hopefully can leave the season

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Speaker 1: with a performance with reflecting positivity on all three phases

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Speaker 1: of the game offense, defense, and special teams. Before we

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Speaker 1: wrap this one up to hat tipped Ben Salz, rookie

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Speaker 1: left footed kicker making all his kicks today as the

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Speaker 1: Giants get the win. Thirty four to ten is the

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Speaker 1: final score. Well, it's a wrap for the Week seventeen.

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