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Speaker 1: the leaving ESPN. What's next for her, Sean Spice or

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Speaker 1: our newest guy. All that's coming up tonight. And I'm right,

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Speaker 1: these are trying times. To put it mildly, We're looking

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Speaker 1: and we're thinking to ourselves, man, this is crazy. Maybe

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Speaker 1: What do we do? And so we all in times

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Speaker 1: all those things hopefully. So for me, it's looking back

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Speaker 1: to be correct and knowing I can then bring those

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Speaker 1: where I get true joy, true joy in life. It's

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Speaker 1: being right and acting like I'm smarter than other people.

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Speaker 1: Let's rewind, shall we all the way back to March

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, so that's like over three years ago

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Speaker 1: by my calculations. Here. I was remember then when I

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Speaker 1: said this, the far reaching consequences of what we're doing

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Speaker 1: massive economic losses coming, and that's just that's just the truth.

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Speaker 1: I'm not downplaying the fact that the virus spreads like wildfire.

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Speaker 1: economy and telling it to stop. Let's set that prediction aside. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that was just being fun. We already knew all that.

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Speaker 1: The probably more important prediction I made was this one.

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Speaker 1: We must have a reckoning, and you can call it vengeance.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm not gonna lie to you. I do

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Speaker 1: want vengeance, there's no question about that. But for the

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Speaker 1: everything over lies so they don't tell those same lies

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Speaker 1: again another time. There must be a reckoning. It must happen,

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Speaker 1: It must be severe, and it must be public. Can't

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Speaker 4: But we recognize now that just being vaccinated fully vaccinated

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Speaker 1: You want to these monkeys. The people in charge say, hey,

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Speaker 1: And afterwards, after you're done abusing these poor monkeys, instead

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Speaker 1: It's for your own good, of course. And the American

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Speaker 1: the Divide administration. They're stocking up on COVID nineteen equipment

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Speaker 7: Here you were on it, Barbara Walters like ripped me

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Speaker 7: But this goes back to acceptance and tolerance and inclusion adversity.

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Speaker 11: We are in a community that relies on Gama on Ohana,

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Speaker 1: I was the President of the United States of America

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Speaker 11: I don't want to compare difficulties, but we have a

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Speaker 11: little sense, Jill and I what it's like to lose

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Speaker 1: It was a small kitchen fire that was out in

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes. No threat to the wife, the cat, or

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Speaker 1: in charge we do. We're gonna talk to We're moving on.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Sean Spicer about that. GOP debates

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Speaker 12: There is a huge election coming up, and man is

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Speaker 13: There's so much at stake.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna give you a front row seat, free of

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Speaker 13: We can fix our institutions and.

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Speaker 12: We can repair the damage that's been done to our

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Speaker 13: Welcome to the Sewn Spicer Show.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now that gentleman right there, Sean Spicer of

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Speaker 1: The Shawn Spicer Show, airs Monday through Friday, six pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern Time, right here on the First TV. Let's hope

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Speaker 1: he doesn't get camera shy. Lord knows he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the experience. Seawn, thanks for the welcome to the family, dude.

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Speaker 10: It's great to be part of it.

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Speaker 12: Thank you for welcoming me and for all the support

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Speaker 12: of you and everyone else at the First.

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Speaker 10: I'm excited to be part of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, man, I think you're gonna like it here.

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Speaker 1: I sure do. Okay, you're in Milwaukee. GOP debate is

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. It's always different when you're on the ground

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Speaker 1: versus watching it all on TV or social media. What's

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Speaker 1: the buzz? What's going on on the ground.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question, Jesse, because right now everybody's talking

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Speaker 2: obviously about who made it the cut this morning eight

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Speaker 2: candidate's going to be on the stage, and then obviously

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Speaker 2: who's not here, which is Donald Trump?

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Speaker 10: And it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I just walked down and get my media credentials to

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Speaker 2: cover this, and you've got a bunch of Trump people

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Speaker 2: walking around, and it's funny. I mean, Trump physically is

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Speaker 2: not here. But his presence is being felt everywhere, and

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Speaker 2: the question is how are people going to react to that?

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Speaker 2: What is their strategy going into this? So it's hysterical

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Speaker 2: because he's not here, and yet he's still the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing that's being talked about.

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Speaker 1: This is what Trump is really really good at doing.

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Speaker 1: He sucks the oxygen out of the room. He commands

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, no matter who your candidate was, oh,

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Speaker 1: anybody could talk about was Donald Trump. And these candidates

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Speaker 1: have to find a way to not steal it. She's

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Speaker 1: not going to steal it from him, but get some

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Speaker 1: of it back. How do you get some of it

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Speaker 1: back without getting up there with the clown nos on

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Speaker 1: and juggling, you know, flaming, bowling pins or something.

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Speaker 10: You know. So look, here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: There are basic what I would say are two strategies

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Speaker 2: for tomorrow night. Number one, go after Donald Trump. I

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Speaker 2: think that's the Chris Christie strategy. It's like comic cos

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Speaker 2: he goes straight at the guy. And number two is

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Speaker 2: talk about yourself. Here's the thing that I would say.

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Speaker 2: Number one, if you go at Trump and let's say

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Speaker 2: you're even really effective at doing it. There's nothing that

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Speaker 2: says that you're the beneficiary of this. So Chris Christi

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Speaker 2: grows up and let's say he literally glows up Trump

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Speaker 2: and makes a really compelling argument, Well, just because you

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Speaker 2: don't want to vote for Trump anymore doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 2: gonna benefit Chris Christie. It could benefit Nicki Haley, you

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Speaker 2: could benefit Vivick or Theswami. So I would argue that

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Speaker 2: that would be a pretty stupid strategy. Number Two, If

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Speaker 2: who would tell them, hey, let's get you to six

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Speaker 2: or seven or eight, and the way to do that

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Speaker 2: is to get.

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Speaker 10: People excited about your candidacy.

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Speaker 2: I think Vivividkarswami has done a fantastic job of doing that.

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Speaker 2: He's not going after Trump. He's talking about himself. He's

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Speaker 2: talking about his policies and his vision for the future.

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Speaker 2: That's a much smarter idea. But I think the media

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Speaker 2: wants everybody to go after Trump. They look at this

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Speaker 2: as a ratings exercise, not as an exercise. And who

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Speaker 2: would be the best candidate for the Republican Party, or

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Speaker 2: why Donald Trump is still the eight hundred pound gorilla.

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Speaker 2: And I think that people have to remember the strategy here.

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Speaker 2: You're hearing everybody talk about Trump because that's what the

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Speaker 2: media wants. They want their ratings, they want their clips.

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Speaker 2: They don't really care about the outcome.

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Speaker 1: Candidate hurt Trump and DeSantis though, these candidates in the

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Speaker 1: race who are clearly there mainly to just attack them.

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Speaker 1: It's obvious to anybody Chris Christy doesn't want to be president.

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Speaker 1: He wants to hurt Donald Trump. It's obvious to anybody

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Speaker 1: with two eyes and two ears that Vivic is really

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Speaker 1: can see. That's why it doesn't do anything but to

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump A given back rubs. That doesn't get you

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Speaker 1: closer to the presidency. So what does it get you

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Speaker 1: a job on cable news? What do they get from it.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because I think different people have different things.

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Speaker 10: Some people auditioning for twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: I mean I do wonder if Chris Christy's looking for

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Speaker 2: an MSNBC or a CNN contract, because you're not serious

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Speaker 2: it's a valid question if you're at two or three percent,

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Speaker 2: what are you really gunning for? Do you want a

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Speaker 2: book deal? Are you playing for the future. But I

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Speaker 2: think there's such a delta between Trump and the next person.

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Speaker 2: Even with DeSantis, you're talking forty points. What are you

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Speaker 2: really trying to get at? I think we'll see this

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Speaker 2: debate will be telling we lost three people today. Suarez

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Speaker 2: Johnson didn't make the Perry Johnson Suarez and Will Hurt

655
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Speaker 2: didn't make the debate stage. I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: go on after that? Where's the next cut? And I

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Speaker 2: think tonight we may see the next iteration of that.

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Speaker 2: A couple people who just flail and it's pretty obvious

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Speaker 2: that they're not anywhere because you need, you know, I say,

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Speaker 2: with campaigns, you need the equivalent of gas in a car,

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Speaker 2: and that's donations and volunteers, and at some point people

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Speaker 2: aren't stupid. They won't give you their money or their

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Speaker 2: time if they don't think you have any path forward.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about the race as a whole

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four, Sean, because there's this gigantic thing

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Speaker 1: woming over it, and that's Donald Trump's legal problems. Look,

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Speaker 1: we can talk all day long about he's up forty

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Speaker 1: points in the polls and it's all Trump and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, well, when he's in prison or taken

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Speaker 1: off the ballot in a place like Michigan or Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't quite help us for twenty twenty four. What

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Speaker 1: I just said, it's not ridiculous. Those are realistic things.

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Speaker 1: How do you see this going. He's in serious legal

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Speaker 1: trouble because of these commy piece of trash das who

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Speaker 1: are obviously unjustly persecuting him. But that doesn't change the

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Speaker 1: fact he's in bad trouble.

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Speaker 10: I agree. I think you're absolutely right. I mean both

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Speaker 10: of what.

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Speaker 2: Look, here's the problem with the Washington DC issue and

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Speaker 2: indictment there that the DC votes ninety two to eight,

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Speaker 2: ninety six to four, whatever it is, Democrat. They don't

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Speaker 2: like Republicans, never mind Donald Trump and so I think

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Speaker 2: that it doesn't matter what the charges. I do think

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Speaker 2: he faces a very good chance of being convicted there

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Speaker 2: if that happens before the election. Same thing in the

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Speaker 2: Fulton County Georgia race. The problem with Fulton County is

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Speaker 2: one they have mandatory minimum sentences, so if you get convicted,

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Speaker 2: you're screwed. Number two is the only way you get

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Speaker 2: pardon is a five person state board. If this is

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Speaker 2: not a governor or a president that can partner community sentence.

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Speaker 2: I think that your analysis is right. The question is

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Speaker 2: going to be the timing, meaning does his team make

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Speaker 2: an effective case.

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Speaker 10: To push the case off beyond the election. If it happens.

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Speaker 2: Before, I think we're gonna have real problems. And so

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Speaker 2: to answer your question, I think timing is everything. When

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Speaker 2: do these cases start. I know when they want them

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Speaker 2: to start, but I think you're going to see a

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Speaker 2: lot of motions being made about the reality of when

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Speaker 2: they can start, and then how long it takes.

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Speaker 10: I mean, the one in.

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Speaker 2: Georgia from legal experts I've told, is just going to

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Speaker 2: be tough. You've got what eighteen other co defendants coordinating

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Speaker 2: a lot of that legal stuff just takes time. And

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Speaker 2: so the answer to your question is this, how long

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Speaker 2: will the first one take to begin?

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Speaker 10: And if it's DC or Georgia, that spells trouble.

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Speaker 2: I think the point that you touched on and I

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Speaker 2: think you hit this, and I want to make sure

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Speaker 2: your viewers understand this. The idea of a state you

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Speaker 2: mentioned Michigan, it doesn't really matter to me as long

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Speaker 2: as it's one of the eight states that matter Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona,

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire, Nevada. Once that if one of those states

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Speaker 2: takes him off the ballot, it's a very real concern

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Speaker 2: about the possibility that you're bringing up, how do you

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Speaker 2: get elected? We're here in Wisconsin the first race in

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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, rather it was was eleven thousand

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Speaker 2: votes that Trump wanted by in the books, Biden wanted

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Speaker 2: by less than twenty one twenty twenty, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be close. It's ten electoral votes. So you take a

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Speaker 2: state Michigan, Wisconsin, take those electoral votes off the table

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Speaker 2: because the Dems get them off the ballot. That's a

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Speaker 2: real that makes the mountain even stiffer. And frankly, I

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Speaker 2: think you take one of these key states off, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how you overcome it. And that's where what

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Speaker 2: you said, I would mark the tape right now today,

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Speaker 2: because what you're touching on is a very real possibility.

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Speaker 1: Oh Sean, you know, I know you know this stuff

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Speaker 1: like the back of your hand. I can't even tell

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Speaker 1: you how much I wanted you to argue with me

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Speaker 1: and tell me I was wrong. But I've just been

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Speaker 1: laying this out in my head and I just see

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Speaker 1: this horrible scenario.

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Speaker 10: Here's where I'll argue with you.

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Speaker 2: I think what you're saying not enough people are taking

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Speaker 2: seriously enough.

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Speaker 10: And the problem is is that you.

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Speaker 2: Make these things and people say, oh Jesse, you're Sean,

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Speaker 2: You're nuts. That's never gonna happen, mark my word. They're

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Speaker 2: going to find a way to convict him and say,

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Speaker 2: therefore we can't have them on the ballot. And what

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Speaker 2: happens once that happens? How do you unring the bell?

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Speaker 2: How do you redo an election? They did this in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. I'm here in Wisconsin, Jesse.

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Speaker 10: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: The state of Wisconsin went out and put drop by

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Speaker 2: in place. They e let people claim to be disabled

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Speaker 2: to vote absentee, which was completely in violation of Wisconsin's law.

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Speaker 2: Then what happens The state Legislative Audit Bureau comes out

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Speaker 2: after the election and say, you're right, they had no

751
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Speaker 2: authority to do that, but hey, sorry, the election's been held,

752
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Speaker 2: so this is stuff that they will do.

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Speaker 10: And then what happens is Biden will be elected or Kamala.

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Speaker 2: Will actually probably be elected, and they'll say, well, what

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Speaker 2: do you want us to do about it?

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Speaker 10: They know how to do this.

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Speaker 2: I just think our side has got to stop putting

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Speaker 2: blinders on it and saying, oh, that's crazy talk, that'll

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Speaker 2: never happen.

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Speaker 1: Sean, thank you for your wisdom. You know what, tell

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Speaker 1: us about the Sean Spicer Show before we let you go.

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Speaker 1: Obviously everyone's going to be tuning in.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about it, Well, obviously you mentioned it. We're

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Speaker 2: here on the first six o'clock. I'm excited to But

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Speaker 2: anywhere else that you get your podcast, if you can't

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Speaker 2: access the first, go to iTunes subscribed.

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Speaker 10: It's super helpful for us to do that.

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Speaker 2: But right now we're trying to bring people the insight,

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Speaker 2: the guests and the discussion that's missing. Like you and

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Speaker 2: I just had what does it take to win Wisconsin's

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Speaker 2: ten electoral votes? What do we need to be doing

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Speaker 2: on the ground. What are the hurdles that stand before us?

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Speaker 2: Why are candidates doing one thing versus an next. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're breaking down superbacks. The coordination that can have this

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Speaker 2: election is too important. I think people need to understand

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Speaker 2: the rules of the game, how to use them to

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Speaker 2: win effectively, and what the left is doing, and so

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Speaker 2: that we understand what we're up against in a way

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Speaker 2: that we never had.

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Speaker 10: And to your point, I've been doing this thirty years.

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Speaker 10: I know the.

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Speaker 2: Game, I know the rules, I know how to win,

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Speaker 2: and what I want to do is share that with everybody.

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Speaker 1: Uh, tune in for some freaking wisdom. Thank you, Sean.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, sir, come back soon.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me, Jesse, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Good chuck, dude, Right there, man, that's a good good pickup. First,

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Speaker 1: good pickup, Bosses, if you're listening, well done. Now you

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Speaker 1: all dead. You know, they kill it at the factory.

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Speaker 1: They kill everything in it. You know, in some cases

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Speaker 1: they have to spray lard on it at the factory

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Speaker 1: Call eight three three three three my Dog, or you

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Speaker 1: can go to Roughgreens dot com slash Jesse. All you

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Speaker 1: pay for is the shipping free bag. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: be back. I love when politicians who have no soul

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Speaker 1: or sense of humor are presented with one, and they're

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Speaker 1: finally in a situation where they don't know how to

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Speaker 1: pretend otherwise. We have a little flashback of Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: You've probably forgotten about. Hang on before we.

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Speaker 13: Get to that.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to this really quickly. Let's get to the air.

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Speaker 1: We talked about cleaning our home. Cleaning. I keep it

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Speaker 1: done though, all right, edenpuredeals dot com code Jesse. Now

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Speaker 1: Here was Hillary Clinton with Zach Galifanakis from twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy this little throwback. What's going to be the number

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Speaker 1: one focus of your presidency, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Zach, it has to be the economy. We need more

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Speaker 3: good jobs with rising incomes. We've got to make the

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Speaker 3: economy work for everybody, not just those who the talget.

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Speaker 1: We need to take a break. We just need to

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Speaker 1: have a word from our sponsor.

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Speaker 13: Okay, Washington is broken.

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Speaker 7: The truth is too many politicians are totally controlled by

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Speaker 7: special interests and lobbyists.

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Speaker 13: We're going to make America great again. I'm Donald Trump

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Speaker 13: and I approved this message.

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Speaker 1: He approves the message.

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Speaker 3: Why would you play a commercial from my opponent in

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Speaker 3: the middle of our interview?

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Speaker 1: He paid me in stakes.

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Speaker 3: I'd be afraid to eat them if I were you.

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Speaker 1: It's a good cut of meat.

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Speaker 13: I think it's part of the well.

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Speaker 1: This has been a lot of fun. Missus Clinton.

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Speaker 6: We should stay in touch.

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Speaker 1: What's the best way to reach you? Email? I'll see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow.