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Speaker 1: Have you heard about the story, the story of the

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Speaker 1: person that's been going around to houses robbing their donuts.

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Speaker 2: Who's that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some robber that's going around just stealing people's donuts.

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Speaker 3: Where's day?

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Speaker 1: We don't know who it is? Is that me? Are

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Speaker 1: you going to people's houses and stealing their donuts?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dawks

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Speaker 4: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, August twenty fifth

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Speaker 4: Trey Kirby. Hey help. Hey, We've got the international Man

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Speaker 4: one pm. No dunks Reddit Ama. But we got lots

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Speaker 4: to get to. We got a couple coaching news items

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Speaker 4: to get to. Brett Brown gone, that was quick and

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Speaker 4: fun one from Shaan's the fun little report about Pop

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Speaker 4: maybe headed his way to Brooklyn, or at least they'd

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Speaker 4: like him to go there. But we got the games,

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Speaker 4: and let's start with the West. Dennis Shrewder scores thirty

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Speaker 4: as the thunder topped the Rockets to even the series

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Speaker 4: at two games piece. We got a series. What do

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Speaker 4: you think will you get a started?

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Speaker 3: You know, if you're a Rockets fan, you must be

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Speaker 3: pretty frustrated right now because I think the Rockets stubbornness

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Speaker 3: Rockets their game plan is based on math three is

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Speaker 3: worth more than two. So they go out and shoot

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Speaker 3: as many threes as they can. And they started that

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Speaker 3: second half hitting eight in a row. But where math

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Speaker 3: falls down for them apparently is they don't look at

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Speaker 3: the probability and they don't look at the percentages that

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Speaker 3: the law of averages say, you're probably if you're going

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Speaker 3: probably going to miss eight in a row as well,

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Speaker 3: and you'll still be fifty percent from the field. Because

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Speaker 3: the Rockets I thought had this game. They led by

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Speaker 3: double digits, and they were playing well, and they just

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Speaker 3: kept firing away and fine, they missed a couple, but

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Speaker 3: then they didn't even really change the game plan up

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Speaker 3: into this game. And when the game got tight in

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Speaker 3: that fourth quarter. Late in the fourth quarter, James Harden

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Speaker 4: There by the three, die by the three, I know.

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Speaker 3: But at some point you have to also understand and

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Speaker 3: you have to go you know what, guys, why don't

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Speaker 3: we at least try getting a few more inside baskets

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Speaker 3: And really, the Rockets they could have swept this series.

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Speaker 3: it out more or less in the next game. Now

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Speaker 4: The series, you guys have anything to add to that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're missing Westbrook. I think he could have

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Speaker 4: helped in a case like that Lee where you talked about, Hey,

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Speaker 4: let's maybe stop jacking three's here and let's drive and

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Speaker 4: game five here Suddenly they could sure use him. It

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Speaker 4: looks like because the Thunder have found a bit of

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Speaker 4: a groove. But Trey, what would you add to the

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Speaker 4: what were you saying there about the Rockets just firing away?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Westbrook is key for getting baskets at the rim.

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Speaker 2: But if you lose a Game seven by missing twenty

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Speaker 2: You're probably gonna just keep shooting threes when it comes

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Speaker 2: to it in the playoffs, And it was looking fine

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the third quarter they when the

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Speaker 2: just kept chipping away, just kept keeping them close enough,

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Speaker 2: That was pretty impressive that they were able to battle back,

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Speaker 2: not with you know, their starters in there. And then

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Speaker 2: them in Games three and in Games four. Like Li saying,

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Speaker 2: the Thunder or the Rockets are probably kicking themselves for

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Speaker 2: losing Game four and Game three looks even worse now

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Speaker 2: in hindsight, now that this is a two to two series.

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Speaker 2: But the Thunder went to their small lineup, Danilo Gallinari

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Speaker 2: it was a layup fest for Chris Paul and Dennis

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Speaker 4: It was impressive. That was a Thunder style win.

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Speaker 2: They did exactly what they like to do, except for

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Speaker 2: they changed it up a little bit, which is something

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Speaker 2: you don't always seem for the Rockets. You know, the

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Speaker 2: and it got him a couple of easy baskets that

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Speaker 5: James Harden wasn't good coming down the stretch. He had

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Speaker 5: a great game. He really had a solid game distributing

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Speaker 5: the ball. They doubled him, they got it out of

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Speaker 5: the free throw line, and he led the league this

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Speaker 5: year with twelve free throws per game. But I think

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Speaker 5: as we've seen the past, as we've learned in the past,

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Speaker 5: he gets gassed at the end of basketball games, especially

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Speaker 5: when he plays all fourth quarter, all twelve minutes in

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Speaker 4: We've seen this movie before.

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Speaker 5: And so down the stretch one point thirty to go,

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Speaker 5: he's got the smallest, smaller Dennis Shruder on him. He

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Speaker 5: should be able to dominate that. He tries to draw

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Speaker 5: ripped off by Nilo Gallinari and the Rockets lose from there.

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Speaker 5: So he did all he could. He played pretty well,

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Speaker 5: bit earlier in the game. But we've seen the movie before.

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Speaker 5: With James Harden. He only had five free throws. He

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Speaker 5: Russell Westbrook is there, yeah, they definitely win this game.

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Speaker 5: more time with this scenario. They just try to play

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Speaker 5: there who is really making it tough for him. Dort

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Speaker 5: Russ needs to be out there, but that's sort of

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Speaker 5: the burden. That's that's you. You live by the sword

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Speaker 5: and died by the sword. Here with the way the

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Speaker 5: Rockets play, you put the ball in James Harden's hands

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Speaker 5: every single time. He made the right decisions most of

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Speaker 5: the time. But yeah, the math is three over two.

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Speaker 5: But the math is also get to the line. And

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Speaker 5: that's why James Harden is supposed to get to the

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Speaker 5: free throw line. It's the analytics is, yeah, shoot threes,

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Speaker 5: but also shoot layups. And they hit they only hit

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Speaker 5: one mid range shot. The math was all good, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: they just they just missed that other part just a

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Speaker 5: little bit. It was really close, and that's why they

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Speaker 5: traded for Russell Westbrook. They know that James Harden can't

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Speaker 5: carry this team into the last minute every single time,

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Speaker 5: night in and night out, and D'Antoni shouldn't play him many minutes.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, hold on. The movie's changed here a little bit,

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Speaker 4: the plot line of this movie, because usually it was

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Speaker 4: we get to the playoffs hard and struggles and it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: he was gunning all season long for the MVP, played

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Speaker 4: way too many minutes, way too many games. That's not

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Speaker 4: the case. Now everybody had a four months off and

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Speaker 4: now it's he's just played too much in the second

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Speaker 4: half of a game four that he's gassed. Is that

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Speaker 4: what it is? I mean, he needs the help, he

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Speaker 4: needs Westbrook help, as I said, but I don't know

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Speaker 4: about this. I mean it's credit to Dort and him

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Speaker 4: just making some dumb decisions. You said that one outlet

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Speaker 4: pass was brutal. That could have been the game right now.

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Speaker 4: Houston is down one in that but Shane misses the three.

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Speaker 4: Houston Harding grabs the rebound, He's got it, let's go,

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Speaker 4: and he just throws a lazy, very lazy outlets pass

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Speaker 4: that's picked off. And then there was another one where

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Speaker 4: Jeff Green just sloppily dropped the ball in the corner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a pure l. I will say back

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Speaker 4: See, like we gotta remember they don't really have like

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Speaker 5: Victor Oladipo's old little saying feather like he likes to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's feather. He's feathery for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got the touch that's feathery touch. And when

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Speaker 4: Are you talking about You gotta explain that way through.

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Speaker 5: He's just his footwork, the way he lands everything is

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Speaker 4: For sure, but you're right, you're right.

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Speaker 5: He had mored that one series against the Wizards when

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Speaker 5: he was the quote unquote leader, and he shot forty

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Speaker 4: It was a great game.

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Speaker 5: But you know, we we we're always black and white

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Speaker 3: League, Yeah, no, it does. It is a good matchup

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Speaker 3: him out there on that end. But on the offensive end,

430
00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 3: it's like anything he can give us as a bone

431
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 3: right now. But but again, I think the Rockets they

432
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 3: have to get out of their own way a little

433
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 3: bit in this series. You know, they're like at the

434
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 3: blackjack table. They's hot, and you know when that, when

435
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 3: the table's hot, you've got to leave. When you when

436
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 3: you start when it starts turning, the Rockets just stay

437
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 3: at the table, go and give them back all their winnings,

438
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,919
Speaker 3: you know. And then and then they get lazy. At

439
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,439
Speaker 3: the end, they're up about one hundred bucks and like,

440
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 3: just I'm just going to try to walk away here.

441
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 4: Now, that's when you start to walk back to the

442
00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 4: hotel room. You still in box. You're like you just yeah,

443
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 4: let me just throw it all on black yeah, something

444
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 4: like that, and then yeah, yeah, yeah you do.

445
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 3: You're just like, I just don't even care if I

446
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 3: lose this and if I win, who cares as well.

447
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just going to play until I lose. Basically,

448
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 3: But that's.

449
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 2: What you see.

450
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 4: The Rockets are only playing in the playoffs for the

451
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,119
Speaker 4: free drinks, right, I just honestly like the Clippers Maverick

452
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 4: series is the best series.

453
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Speaker 3: This is I think the most frustrating to watch because

454
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 3: it's it's just been. It just drives me crazy when

455
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 3: look like d'An TONI and Daryl Morey know more about

456
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 3: basketball than me. But at the some point, I want

457
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 3: the Rockets to say, all right, let's just let's just

458
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 3: relax on the threes for a couple of possessions. Here,

459
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 3: come on, guys.

460
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,360
Speaker 4: Because twenty three threes last night. I know, but but

461
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:08,880
Speaker 4: but it was.

462
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 3: The problem was they hit eight in a row, and

463
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 3: then they went four to twenty five I think from there,

464
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,919
Speaker 3: and they gave they back at all their winnings to

465
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 3: the Thunder. They allowed the Thunder to get back into

466
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 3: it again. I know that's the way they played, but

467
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 3: at some point you have to just say, let's just

468
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 3: go inside, let's move the ball around, let's just try

469
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,239
Speaker 3: something here because it ended up doing them in it

470
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 3: costed them the game. And again this has happened to

471
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: them in the past in the playoffs. So I think

472
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 3: that just has to be, like some plans, quite a

473
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Speaker 3: balance of some sort I want, I just I want

474
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Speaker 3: I want. At some point them say, okay, we've missed.

475
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 3: We've missed twelve in a row. Here, guys, let's someone drive,

476
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 3: get a free throw, just mix it up a little bit.

477
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Speaker 4: But the odds early they're going to hit there in

478
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Speaker 4: the thirteenth one, Well, I hit then.

479
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 3: But again it comes back to the averages. It hit

480
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 3: eight in a row, you're gonna miss eight.

481
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Speaker 2: You gotta take a stats classmate. There's no such thing

482
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,239
Speaker 2: as the law of averages. That's like the first thing

483
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 2: they teach you in stats. The law of averages is

484
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Speaker 2: made up. A few people say that's not true.

485
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 3: They shoot like thirty three percent or thirty four percent

486
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 3: on the season. So if they're shooting one hundred percent

487
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Speaker 3: on eight, by the time they take twenty, they're going

488
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: to drop back to like thirty five percent, aren't they,

489
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: which is their average. So they're going to miss those

490
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Speaker 3: twelve in a row. That's that's the way I look

491
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Speaker 3: at it.

492
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Speaker 4: I mean, if the tasses right though, like usually the

493
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 4: rockets are shoot a bunch of threes, but also get

494
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 4: to the free throw line, or get the layups, just

495
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 4: get rid of the dumb long twos, you know, the

496
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 4: dumb long twos in their opinion, But they're not doing

497
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 4: the second part. No, but they're getting the light and

498
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 4: credit has to go to guys like Dort and the

499
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 4: Defense of the Thunder. But we think the Rockets are

500
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 4: And what it sounds like you're sayingly is like they're

501
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 4: letting them off the hook because absolutely really trying.

502
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Speaker 3: Absolutely they're letting them off the hook because there's too

503
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: many times I think when it comes down at its

504
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: house or it's coming down again. I know these guys

505
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: can hit those threes, but when you've missed a ton

506
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 3: in a row, you just wanted to be like, maybe

507
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: let's just move it around a little bit and let's

508
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 3: try to get someone cutting inside. Eric Gordon's been good

509
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 3: at going into the paint, like let's try that. Let's

510
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: try to get if.

511
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Speaker 4: Jess Green has a couple old times too. Yes, as

512
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Speaker 4: peaceful it is for me to say that, yeah, no,

513
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 4: they're right. They they've they've blown the last two games.

514
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: But again credit to the Thunder for keeping it close enough.

515
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again the Thunder don't stay in it if

516
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 3: if the Rockets put them away then and they weren't

517
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 3: able to do that in game three or four.

518
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: So I think we were split in our predictions with

519
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 4: this series. We had Task and Lee saying Thunder. We

520
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 4: had Tray and myself saying Rockets. Is anybody changing their

521
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 4: opinion or is everybody feeling pretty good because I know

522
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 4: a lot of us had to go six or seven.

523
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, still feels like a seven game series. You know,

524
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: we've seen adjustments by the Thunder to the switching defense

525
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: of the Rockets, and now we'll see if the Rockets

526
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: will actually make some sort of an adjustment or if

527
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 2: it's going to be the same sort of thing where

528
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: we just say Harden never gets to the free throw

529
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: line in the playoffs.

530
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Speaker 3: M I picked, Yeah, I picked Thunder and six that

531
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: that's still in play so I'm going to stick with it.

532
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 4: And Tashi went Thunder and seven.

533
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Speaker 5: I think you got to bring back Russ and then

534
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 5: I'll change my Yeah, change a prediction. Yeah, that's huge,

535
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 5: he's got to come back. He's got to come back.

536
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 5: He's been standing for four straight games on the side,

537
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 5: and I think he's ready to go.

538
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: He really has. He's never sitting down. He's always like

539
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 4: in the corner there, like just so he can come

540
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 4: around that little barrier, right, he love him.

541
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: He came prepared though, to be almost sitting on the sidelines.

542
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: His fashion is just incredible, Like he was rocking the

543
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: Kobe jersey yesterday, and I mean, I know it was

544
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: a big Mamba Day. Everyone was doing stuff, but Russ

545
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 3: just looked awesome on the sideline. He's got a different

546
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: mask for every day as well. Like he's uh, he's not.

547
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: He's not hating the fact that he gets to turn

548
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 3: up in it, like it's like a fashion show for him.

549
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 4: He wishes he could play in that for sure. Oh yeah, sure,

550
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 4: it'd be pretty cool.

551
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: All right.

552
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 5: Well, that's a happy Mamba Day to everybody.

553
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 4: Say, speaking of Mamba Day. On Mamba Day, so the

554
00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 4: Lakers dominated the Blazers one thirty five to one fifteen.

555
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 4: It wasn't really even that close. Trey, what's your big

556
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: takeaway from this one?

557
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: Well, there's no better way for the Lakers to celebrate

558
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: Mamba Day than by destroying the Portland Trail Blazers. I

559
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: think that that's just a very fitting considering the history

560
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: that Kobe had with the Blazers. But you know, it

561
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: feels to me that the matchups have officially tilted in

562
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: Lakers versus Blazers. This was a dominant performance by LA,

563
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: probably their best of the bubble. Lebron went for thirty

564
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: on ten of twelve, shooting, ten assists, six rebounds. He's

565
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: now up to twenty five ten and ten for the series,

566
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: fifty six percent. Anthony Davis eighteen and eighteen minutes. He

567
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: was getting whatever he wanted. He was great on defense,

568
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: and we're starting to see what people thought was going

569
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: to be the case coming into Lakers Blazers was that

570
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: there's nobody to guard Lebron, there's nobody to guard ad

571
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: and after that, the defense is probably going to carry

572
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: the way.

573
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Speaker 4: Portland was great in game one.

574
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Speaker 2: You know, the Lakers toughed it out for games two,

575
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: and after games three and four, this thing's looking a

576
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: little bit douchey to me.

577
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a douche bagche Yeah. Yeah. LA's won the

578
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: last three games by an average of seventeen points, So

579
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: they're hammering them. Now the Blazers, it feels like the

580
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: Cinderella run has maybe come to an end here, and

581
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 4: it's sort of similar to me, like a number twelve

582
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: or thirteen seed that makes it through the first weekend

583
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 4: of March madness right of the attorney and everyone's getting excited,

584
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: and then that second weekend hits, or the second game

585
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 4: of that second weekend hits, and they just get spanked.

586
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 4: But you know, the better team and it's it's over.

587
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: And look, Lillard, you know, leaves this one eventually. This

588
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 4: is this is also rough news of course for the Blazers.

589
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 4: He's got an MRI on his right knee, inconclusive and

590
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: now he's going to undergo a second MRI. I believe

591
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 4: this afternoon he could be just done for the season.

592
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 4: So there Cinderella run truly coming to an end. And

593
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 4: you hope it's not anything extreme where it goes into

594
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 4: next season whenever the heck that starts, if it's February

595
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 4: or March. But yeah, I think it's over teams leading

596
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: a best seven series three one of one ninety six

597
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: percent of the time nearly, so that's big. So I

598
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: can't imagine the leaders are coming back in this one.

599
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean it's really the case of defense

600
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: looks great again. They're doing an unbelievable job of getting

601
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 4: the ball out of Lillard's hands, and even McCollum to

602
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: that matter, and then Edi and Lebron, I mean, there's

603
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 4: just no answer to stopping them when they're so engaged.

604
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 3: Like that, right, Yeah, KCP picking up Lillard from the

605
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 3: very first position ninety four feet like that's their messages, Like,

606
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: you know what, none of those other guys are going

607
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: to be able to keep up with us, but Lillard

608
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: may be able to, So we just have to make

609
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 3: life as difficult for him as we can. And then

610
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: on the offensive end, I thought Lebron came out last

611
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 3: night as if to say, we want to end this

612
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: in five games. We've got to move on to the

613
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: next series. And the Lakers, because they haven't been playing

614
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 3: all that well in the bubble, they've just started to

615
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: now click a little bit and find their groove and

616
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, now it's the time to pick it up.

617
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: And again it starts with Lebron. He looked incredible from

618
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: the start. And yeah, the Lakers, I think we're up

619
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: fifteen zero. Maybe it was and even then, it was

620
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 3: like it just felt so tough that the Blazers were

621
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: even going to get back into this, and that kind

622
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: of was the way the game went. So, yeah, this

623
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: one's done in five, but the Blazers have left us

624
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: with some awesome moments from the Bubble experience, that's for sure.

625
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: Tass.

626
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Blazer's defense just isn't good enough to get

627
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 5: into the paint and then guard the three point line.

628
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 5: And so now the Lakers have figured out that they

629
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 5: can dominate inside with their two big boys and broad

630
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 5: and a D and now the shooting is raining down,

631
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: and so that's it's a recipe for disaster. I did

632
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 5: like from this game. It was poetic the way they

633
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 5: handled Mamba Day right from the get go. I kind

634
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 5: of find it poetic. I don't want Damian Lillard to

635
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 5: be hurt, but I think maybe when a team, or

636
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 5: when when a team is done in the series, that

637
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 5: their best players should get lightly injured. It's poetic to

638
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 5: see him walk away limp off into the sunset as

639
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 5: they lose. As long as he's healthy and he's ready

640
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 5: to go, there was It was a poetic day, and

641
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 5: even Chris Paul took a photo of the scoreboard. I'm

642
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 5: not sure if he was in the arena, Okase he

643
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 5: played a little bit earlier in the day, so.

644
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, but it was like, did he

646
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Speaker 5: take somebody else's screen grass?

647
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Speaker 4: I think so. Yeah, So I thought I saw the

648
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Speaker 4: photo from someone else like going around and that he

649
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Speaker 4: then just sort of stole it, as you can do

650
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Speaker 4: on Twitter. Yeah. I could be wrong, That's that's how

651
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Speaker 4: I thought I went down, but yeah, pointing out the

652
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Speaker 4: reason why he was sharing the scoreboard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was twenty four to eight Mamba day fitting

654
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Speaker 5: and so he was doing some scouting for sure his

655
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Speaker 5: potential next opponent of the Los Angeles Lakers, but the Blazers. Yeah,

656
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Speaker 5: I think we all know the Lakers weren't taking their

657
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Speaker 5: eight game run so seriously and the seating games, I

658
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Speaker 5: should say, And now they've found their groove against the

659
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Speaker 5: Portland Trail Blazers, and now she over because now they

660
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Speaker 5: know where their shots are and they're playing hard on

661
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Speaker 5: defense and they're the Fares Verrio defensive team, so they've

662
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Speaker 5: got it going on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, their best bet to win the series was just

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Speaker 4: to hope that the Lakers still couldn't hit a shot

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Speaker 4: from outside the paint, and for the first couple of

666
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Speaker 4: games it sort of worked. And then especially Anthony Davis

667
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Speaker 4: in Games three, and then even in the games four,

668
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Speaker 4: even though he didn't play a ton of minutes, he

669
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Speaker 4: left with back spasms. You're hoping that's nothing serious with him,

670
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Speaker 4: but he just suddenly now can't miss those mid range shots,

671
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Speaker 4: and it's a rap. It's like it's over. I'm with you, guys,

672
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Speaker 4: it will probably be five. Les Lillard's got something special

673
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Speaker 4: still in his bag. Any play through the injury, if

674
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Speaker 4: he's even going and give us, you know, one more game,

675
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Speaker 4: probably probably not.

676
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Speaker 5: According to Jared Dryden here, Chris Paul was there for

677
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Speaker 5: the first half in the arena to watch the Lakers game,

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Speaker 5: and that he stayed around the arena but after his game.

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Speaker 5: But I find that hard to believe because there was

680
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Speaker 5: a game in between. So you're telling me Chris Paul

681
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Speaker 5: all drenched, Jared R was hanging out for four hours.

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Speaker 5: But apparently they said it on the broadcast. Maybe I

683
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Speaker 5: wasn't tuning in. I guess none of us were really

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Speaker 5: tuned into this below. U oh, that Chris Paul was

685
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Speaker 5: hanging out.

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Speaker 4: I went like this when Lebron came down. I guess

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Speaker 4: it was somewhat early in the third quarter, if I'm

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Speaker 4: not mistaken, And he hit like the thirty six on

689
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Speaker 4: the bomb where he was pulled up and shot that,

690
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Speaker 4: and it was like then, Balloon was at like a

691
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Speaker 4: thirty eight point lead. I took the computer screen and

692
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: I just went whoop and just closed it down, looped it.

693
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Speaker 4: I'm going to bed because they're not coming back here.

694
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: I've seen enough. Let's have an early night. So yeah, yeah, okay,

695
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Speaker 4: Chris Paul was there. Maybe he took the photo. Maybe

696
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm I'm still talking Vince. He took

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Speaker 4: that photo. Weird angle to it. If you asked me,

698
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Speaker 4: where the heck was he sitting? Was he like sting

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Speaker 4: up in the rafters? Anyway, Lebron did hit a couple

700
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Speaker 4: of bombs last night. Started. Maybe he's figured out his

701
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Speaker 4: sight lines scary stuff for the rest of the Western Conference,

702
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Speaker 4: that's true, and playing with no fans there, Yeah, he's

703
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: figured it all out. Just takes him a little while

704
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Speaker 4: a while for sure. All Right, we'll get to the

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764
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Speaker 4: Back to the games here, Fema dragage. The Dragon scores

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Speaker 4: twenty three. As the Heat complete the sweep over the Pacers,

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Speaker 5: that is Andre Iguodala has played every fourth quarter minute

859
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 5: in this series, or played every fourth quarter minute all twelve,

860
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 5: which is nuts. And so they're ready to go up

861
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 5: against the anistatic Gumbo with him and Jimmy Butler and

862
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 5: bam Adebayo, they think they've got enough length and enough

863
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: defensive tenacity. The way they covered these Pacers all night long,

864
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 5: all series long was really really impressive. And Gordon Drags

865
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 5: obviously another story again, especially with Jimmy Butler being hurt.

866
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 5: He only took five shots in this game. The way

867
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 5: that everybody stepped up around him throughout the series, Goran

868
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 5: Dragic was steady Eddie and Tyler Herro stepping up in

869
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 5: this fourth quarter. It's that old thing with the or

870
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 5: the Miami heat. They've got everybody going, everybody feeling good.

871
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 5: It's almost a little bit harder to defend because you

872
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 5: don't know where the shots are coming from, but everybody

873
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 5: has to be up for the task, which is really

874
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 5: really difficult and so far, so great, and they were

875
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 5: too much obviously for the Indiana Pacers. They just didn't

876
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 5: have enough offense without Demata Sabonis and even Jeremy Lamb

877
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 5: would have helped out big time. And Victor Oladipo wasn't himself,

878
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 5: so this was done from the get go. The way

879
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: the heat were playing, they played just really really well

880
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 5: for four straight games.

881
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, won't get ahead of ourselves. We won't start

882
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: making predictions for Heat Bucks in the second round. And

883
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 4: I know we still got to get to our Celtics raptors.

884
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: I think we'll maybe do that on tomorrow show or Thursday.

885
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: But you look at the Heat Lee and they do

886
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 4: check a lot of boxes in the likelihood of maybe

887
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 4: being a challenge to the box, maybe even going further.

888
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 4: What I mean by that is like they're obviously well coached.

889
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: They're great on both ends, so you know they're a

890
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 4: decent offensive team and decent defensive team. They've got a

891
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: closer in Jimmy Butler. You're hoping the shoulders, okay, I

892
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 4: mean the guy was out there playing with one arm.

893
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: That was That was a little weird, even for a

894
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: guy like Jimmy. Was a little strange. But anyway, you know,

895
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: you've got Bam as your defensive backbone. You've got and

896
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 4: you can run a lot of stuff through him. Offensively

897
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 4: through the paint. You've got your vets in Igodala like task,

898
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: said Crowder, I would throw it in the mix. You've

899
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: got sharpshooters like Tyler Hero, who is awesome in this one,

900
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: especially on a night where Duncan Robinson, your other sharp

901
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 4: shooter doesn't have it really going. And then you've got Dragich,

902
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: who I think is the ultimate X factor. This guy

903
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 4: is playing incredible bastball Fiba dragag This guy dominates an

904
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 4: international play and he's looking like that version of Goran

905
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: Dragic to me, especially light in games where him and

906
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: Butler have a nice one two going and he is

907
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: just hitting clutch shot after clutch shot. This team could

908
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: challenge the Bus, is what I'm getting out here. They

909
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: look extremely, extremely solid and confident in their system right

910
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: now and being able to play on both ends of

911
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: the floor. Am I reach in here, No, not at all.

912
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: I think this is a good match up for Miami.

913
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: They're also playing really, really well. They couldn't hit the

914
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: three yesterday, which is a you know, that's fine that

915
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: they go a little bit cold, but you know they've

916
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: got so many guys who can hit that three and

917
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: can light it up, which when you look at what

918
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 3: Milwaukee gives up, that sort of plays into Miami's hands

919
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: as well. So that's a fascinating little series right now.

920
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: Because the Bucks, I know we're going to get to

921
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: them in a minute here, I haven't been playing all

922
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: that well, but you sort of expect they are going

923
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: to get it together at some point. But if you're Miami,

924
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: I think you've got to feel very confident right now

925
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: because this game was one I think again Indiana could

926
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: have won given that the fact that the Heat couldn't

927
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: shoot those threes yesterday. But the Heat and again no Sabona,

928
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: so they're missing one of their key players there, but

929
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: the Heat just another sign of an experienced team and

930
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: a good team is that just to find a way

931
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: to continue to win. And again it starts with Jimmy,

932
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: who didn't have a great game, but they've got collectively

933
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 3: a mentality that means that they just keep on working away,

934
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: keep on fighting away, and they're never going to be

935
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: a blow a pushover. So if they can keep it

936
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: close against the Bucks, they've got closes out there and

937
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: they're going to feel very very confident. Again, no home

938
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: court in this series, so that also gives another little advantage,

939
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: I think, to Miami because they don't have to go

940
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: to Milwaukee to play. But also if I remember earlier

941
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: the season as well, they actually played the Bucks pretty well.

942
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: I know it's a long time ago, two of three.

943
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Heat have got so many positives coming

944
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: into this series, and you know, I think that this

945
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: is going to be a pretty fascinating matchup.

946
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to it.

947
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: Because, like I say, the Heat they've got weapons, they

948
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: can score and they can defend, and that's good for them.

949
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're going to be a trendy pick, yes,

950
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 4: Trey for a lot of people. You can see a

951
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 4: lot of people can convincing themselves to take the Heat

952
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 4: maybe in six or seven over a Bucks. What do

953
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 4: you think?

954
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: You're seeing a lot of upset guaranteed picks in the

955
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: YouTube chat right now, though there are some Cream City

956
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 2: boys hanging around just in case anything starts going down.

957
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: But for all the reasons you guys are have brought up, Yeah,

958
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: this looks like a tasty upset special because the Heat

959
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: play a style that is exactly what the Bucks don't

960
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: want to see. And the Heat have been playing well

961
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: so far and they've got a lot of options. You know,

962
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: you're feeling pretty good about Feva Draga and maybe not

963
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: so good about bubble bloods. So that could be an

964
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: advantage for the heat, no doubt about it. But we

965
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: gotta save it, save it, save it, save us, save it.

966
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: That being said, Tyler Hero incredible in the fourth quarter.

967
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: This guy is good.

968
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: He will see what it's like when he goes in

969
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 2: to play in Wisconsin. He's from Wisconsin. I was watching

970
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: a clip of him in his high school days. He

971
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: went to Kentucky and people were very mad that he

972
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: didn't go and play for the Badgers up there in Madison.

973
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: So everybody shows up wearing like their Wisconsin hoodies. They're

974
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: boon and they're calling him a trader and he's just

975
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: roasting people. So hopefully it's a little bit more of

976
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: that when he comes back to Milwaukee, back to Wisconsin,

977
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: showing out in front of the hometown fans.

978
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: But who knows.

979
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: The guy's a rookie, and he hasn't looked like a

980
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: rookie so far in the playoffs. Maybe it changes as

981
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: the intensity levels up even a little bit more.

982
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: I don't think so. He just doesn't seem like, he

983
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: doesn't seem phased by that. Did you see that? Like

984
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: crazy don't even know how to describe what he did.

985
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 4: It was like a scoop layup, but he was like

986
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: drifting baseline and a sort of finger roll less. Do

987
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 4: you know the shot I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

988
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: smooth yeah and again like I just like that they

989
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 4: have this like one two punch of like as long

990
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 4: as one of us is on Tyler Herro or Duncan Robinson, man,

991
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: they are They're special because those guys can knock it

992
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: down and are fearless of letting it go and letting

993
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 4: it fly from outside. So that should be an awesome series.

994
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 4: We'll try and not again get too far ahead of ourselves,

995
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 4: even though we already have did. Only people though play

996
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 4: his last game as a pacer. Let me just chuck

997
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 4: that out there. I know this was a rough ending

998
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 4: for the Pacers. It was tough to hear, you know,

999
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: Nate mcmill and you know sort of like come up

1000
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 4: with it. I guess an excuse in a way that

1001
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: they got absolutely hammered on the board. I mean they

1002
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: got punked in this one on the actual glass. Like

1003
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: it was something like the heat grabbed thirty seven percent

1004
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 4: of their misses. Like, you know, I how much of a

1005
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: chance to win the game. But moving forward with Indiana tasks,

1006
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you do? Is it just like,

1007
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 4: all right, we didn't have our guy, Like, it's not

1008
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 4: really fair. So Bonus is our all star, he's our interior.

1009
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 4: He's a big playmaker even for us. Let's not get

1010
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 4: ahead of ourselves and let's run it back next year

1011
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: with full squad or or are their moves to be made,

1012
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: especially with a guy like Wi La Depo.

1013
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've heard this Ola Depot buzz. It's gaining some

1014
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 5: traction day in and day out, which is strange because

1015
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 5: he is signed for next season and everybody is their

1016
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 5: hottest team that he would go to is the team

1017
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 5: that they just lost to the Miami Heat, which is

1018
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 5: also strange. But I guess that's just the nature of

1019
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 5: being in Indiana. People think you're gonna leave if you

1020
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 5: gained some stardom, and that's that's scary. I don't really

1021
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 5: know where all this is coming from, but quite often

1022
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 5: in the NBA, where there's some heavy, heavy smoke, there's

1023
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 5: definitely some fire. So that's it. It's not a light

1024
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 5: light smoke, it's not just a puff puff there's it

1025
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 5: seems like that there's a some real, real possibility that

1026
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 5: he would be leaving. But I mean I would run

1027
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 5: it back one hundred percent. But Ola Deepo doesn't look

1028
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 5: like himself quite now. So what are you even getting

1029
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: for Oladipo if you if you know he's leaving, if

1030
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 5: you're the PACER's run office, if you're Kevin Pritchard, are

1031
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: you getting a big package like you did, like you

1032
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 5: would have I should say, last year before he got

1033
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: injured after his fantastic eighteen season. No, I don't think so.

1034
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 5: So I don't know unless he's if he's demanding it,

1035
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 5: that makes sense, right, But I wouldn't let him go.

1036
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 4: So if he's saying, look, I mean if I'm gonna

1037
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 4: be leaving when I'm a free agent, so if you know,

1038
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: have at it. If you want to treat me now

1039
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: and get something back and go with Brogden and Warren

1040
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: and Sabonis and then whatever else you could get back,

1041
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: be it picks or you know, another young player or two.

1042
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: It's all up to the Deepo. You're saying like, if

1043
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: you once out, then you got to maybe make a move.

1044
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 4: If he doesn't, then why wouldn't you continue to running

1045
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: this team? Back.

1046
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: Do you agree with that, Lee, Yeah, I guess so,

1047
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: And I guess if you're pretcher it as well, you're like,

1048
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: what would we be prepared to pay Oladipo when he

1049
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 3: is a free agent?

1050
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: You know fair?

1051
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 3: You know, is he worth twenty five to thirty million

1052
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 3: a season? Sometimes he looks like it, but other times

1053
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: he doesn't. But it's also been a weird bubble experience

1054
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: for him because remember he was like he was going

1055
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: to go down with the team but then not play,

1056
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: and they were going to pay him anyway, and then

1057
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 3: he decided to play, and he hasn't looked all that great,

1058
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: so it probably wasn't. I mean, it's easy to look

1059
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: back now, and so it wasn't maybe the right decision,

1060
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: But I guess he wanted to get out there and

1061
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: help his guys, and he felt good enough to go

1062
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 3: out there and contribute, but he was clearly a bit rusty.

1063
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, with sa bonus back, they may

1064
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: as well run it back as they are, you know,

1065
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: a decent team, but they're they're kind of just in

1066
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: that same spot they've been in for a while. The

1067
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: pace is better than a lot of teams, but not

1068
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: really a contender either. So excuse me, what do you

1069
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: do in that situation? Do you blow it up and

1070
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: start again, or do you just hope that maybe these

1071
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: guys can get it together one season and they and

1072
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: they make a big push and potentially go to the

1073
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: conference finals or further I mean, that's the sort of

1074
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 3: situation they're in there. They're a resilient team, they're a

1075
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 3: consistent team, but they're never really that close to winning

1076
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: a title.

1077
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: Try anything, Dad, Well, the only thing I would add

1078
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: is that we're just seeing how good Demanta Sabona says

1079
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: with him being out for the series against the Heat,

1080
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: he is so crucial to them as a playmaker in

1081
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: the big man spot, and he has such great chemistry

1082
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: with all of their guards, even Jeremy Lamb who's not playing.

1083
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's got great chemistry with Oladipo and with

1084
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: Braggden for the dribble handoffs, the fake dribble handoffs, getting

1085
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: to the line, holding it down on the glass, and

1086
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: then coordinating things defensively as well. He's you know, everybody

1087
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: on the piecers said he was their best player this season.

1088
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: Obviously he was making it to his first All Star Game,

1089
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: but I think we're seeing just how much he actually

1090
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: brings to the table when you're looking at the Pacers

1091
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: now as a team who's having trouble getting stops and

1092
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: getting shots.

1093
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and getting rebounds too, which you can also help

1094
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: with for sure. All right, let's keep it going here.

1095
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 4: Final game, Chris Middleton comes alive in the fourth quarter.

1096
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 4: Bucks take the three to one lead. Task Middleton scored

1097
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: eighteen of his twenty one in the final frame, and

1098
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: the magic, you know, stuck around for a good chunk

1099
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: of this game, but the Bucks pulled it out in

1100
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: the end. What's your big takeaway?

1101
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Chris Middleton is the key for me. Always had

1102
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 5: three points going into the fourth and apparently yannistat Kumpo,

1103
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 5: according to our colleagues at the Athletic, told Chris Middleton

1104
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 5: just shoot the ball until your arms fall off, and

1105
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 5: that's what he did. He knows, he knows that he

1106
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 5: needs Chris Middleton to step up. And Chris Middleton has

1107
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 5: had a quiet four games here. Obviously, the loudest part

1108
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 5: was that fourth quarter, scoring eighteen points in that fourth Q.

1109
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 5: He did come on in Game three a little bit

1110
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 5: with the seventeen pointer, but that's how quiet it's been

1111
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 5: that seventeen point was the seventeen point performance was allowed.

1112
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 5: I'm waiting. I'm waiting for Chris Middleton to show up.

1113
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 5: And the reason why people want to pick the Miami

1114
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: Heat is because the Bucks have not looked convincing and

1115
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 5: the one yeah by double digits again over the Orlando Magic,

1116
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 5: that's not convincing. You're a one seed and they have

1117
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 5: not looked great. And I worry that, Yeah, they come

1118
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 5: into Game one against those Heat whenever it is, because

1119
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 5: this series is over against the Orlando Magic and they

1120
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 5: get romped and then they're playing from behind. So they've

1121
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 5: got they've got to hope that they have a great

1122
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 5: Game five against the Magic on Wednesday. That's what they need.

1123
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 5: They need to be playing really, really well going up

1124
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 5: against the team. You know in the Miami Heat that's

1125
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 5: gonna have Duncan Robinson coming off a pick that first possession,

1126
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 5: then the second possession, in the third possession, if you're

1127
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: not guarding the three point line, well you're down nine

1128
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 5: twelve points already. So that's that's looking ahead. But you

1129
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 5: could see that happening because the Bucks have not looked

1130
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: good against the Magic.

1131
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: They gotta for a good game five. I got to

1132
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 4: hope for a good game five from Chris Middleton. I

1133
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 4: need that thirty five points, my man? Why are you

1134
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: waiting so long to finally find your shot? If he

1135
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: would have had a decent like little first half, I've

1136
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 4: been probably got to my thirty five in game four.

1137
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 4: But not looking good for me here either, because nice

1138
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 4: to see you got it going late. So maybe that

1139
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: spills over in game five. But I don't know what

1140
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: else you have to add to this, Lee. This series

1141
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: is a rap, and you know, again credit to the magic.

1142
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: Vucevic has been awesome. The shot is there. They've given

1143
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: him that little shot and he's taken advantage of it.

1144
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 4: And Folts has been solid in this series. Too solid,

1145
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 4: you know. I think we go a little overboard because

1146
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 4: of just how low the bar was dropped for him

1147
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 4: with the Philly experiment, but average like twelve and five.

1148
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 4: He turns the ball over too much and can't really

1149
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 4: shoot all that well from the floor, but his threes,

1150
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 4: so that's nice moving forward forty from three in this series,

1151
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: not on a ton of attempts, but that's that's good.

1152
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 4: But anything to.

1153
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: Add to this, we're going to see a double douchebag

1154
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: sweep from the number one seats because the Lake is

1155
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: gonna do it in the Bucks are going to do it.

1156
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: The Bucks little less convincing, but you sort of see

1157
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 3: glimpses of it from the Bucks there you think, okay,

1158
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: this is you know that it's coming together. But then

1159
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: there are other times where it's just like they're just

1160
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: not quite there. Bledsoe, you know, didn't have a great

1161
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: game yesterday, and that's the big question going forward. They

1162
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: need him as much as you guys are talking about Middleton.

1163
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: We need to see a breakout playoff performance from Bledsoe,

1164
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: and he's going to get a great opportunity against the

1165
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 3: Miami Heat to do it. So that's what I think

1166
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: can really change things for the Bucks. For the buckscuse me,

1167
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: is if Bledsoe can find, you know, something else, another

1168
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: level to step up to, then it takes a little

1169
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: bit more pressure off Middleton. It takes a little bit

1170
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: more pressure off even a Brook Lopez, you know, some

1171
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: of these other role players, because bled so if he

1172
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: drives inside and he's hitting that three, and he's getting

1173
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 3: to the free throw line and he's giving the Bucks

1174
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: some consistent offense, then changes their whole outlook. But you know,

1175
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: we know that he hasn't performed a lot in the

1176
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 3: playoffs in the past. We keep waiting, we keep making

1177
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 3: excuses for him. Now he's going to have to really,

1178
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: really do it. I think if the Bucks are going

1179
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 3: to go further in this series, because this is a

1180
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: tough matchup, fold them against the Heat. I know we're

1181
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: gonna get to it a little bit later on, you know,

1182
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: in the week. But Bledsoe, it's time for him to

1183
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: sort of stand up.

1184
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: I think, yikes. I mean, this is why a lot

1185
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 4: of people are picking the Heat, because you're putting a

1186
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: lot of hope into Bledsoe and Middleton to get it

1187
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: go in here in the playoffs.

1188
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bledsoe and Middleton versus Dragic and Jimmy Butler so far,

1189
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: and Dragitch obviously has been ballin and Butler showed up

1190
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: in closing moments so far in the playoffs. It's gonna

1191
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: be a scary matchup, especially when you consider, like you're saying,

1192
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: Skeets Buchovic had a really good series against the Bucks.

1193
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: He's had been over thirty and three of the games.

1194
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: That's a stretch five and that's a stretch five is

1195
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: a position that has given Mike Budenholzer team's trouble in

1196
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: the past. Shout out to peril Ontic knocking him down.

1197
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: I guess it was against the Pacers, right, remember when

1198
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 2: that was all stretched out. You can see the seeds

1199
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: of what the Heat would want to do. When you

1200
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: consider they got Bam who can hit from mid range,

1201
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: They've got Kelly Olenick who will pull from outside, maybe

1202
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 2: be able to create a little bit, and maybe they

1203
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: even dust off Meyers Leonard to chuck up some threes.

1204
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: That's a position that could be a problem. And if

1205
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: you're combining that with underwhelming play from the perimeter from

1206
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: Bledzone and Middleton, that's exactly why people are gonna be

1207
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: on the Heat. That being said, you know, it's all

1208
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: it's all different until they're actually playing the games. But

1209
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: there are things you can look at from this series

1210
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: being unimpressed with the Bucks, and there are a lot

1211
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: of things they needed to clean up defensively for a

1212
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: team that's been the best in the league the entire season.

1213
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 4: All right, well, let's talk a little bit about the

1214
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: guys in the polo shirts. Seventy six Ers fired coach

1215
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 4: Brett Brown after seven seasons yesterday. This news about as

1216
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 4: surprising as the sun rising. We knew it was coming,

1217
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 4: it was just when. But Brown is gone, and according

1218
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 4: to Wojah, the franchise's plan is that Elton Brand their

1219
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 4: GM will continue to oversee basketball operations, but the personnel

1220
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 4: and the structure in the front office is undergoing significant

1221
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 4: evaluation and that a change is looming. A change is

1222
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 4: coming here, tass and we will see so again, not

1223
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 4: a surprise that Brett Brown is gone. But there are

1224
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 4: some names being thrown around tyleru as a possibility, a

1225
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 4: big name to come in there. Why are you laughing

1226
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 4: at Tyler just.

1227
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: Because there's so many coaching vacancy He's toyl lose getting

1228
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 3: one of these jobs, you know, Brooklyn, New Orleans, this

1229
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 3: one Dawn there in Philadelphia, and maybe another one in Houston.

1230
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: That's some you know. If the Rockenstein go far, they

1231
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 3: could be another one. So ty Loo's getting a job,

1232
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: and probably Jyson Kids getting one as well. Well, there's

1233
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 3: enough out there.

1234
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 4: And Villanova's two time national championship coach Jay Wright also

1235
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 4: a possibility because it's in Philadelphia, seems to be the case.

1236
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, maybe a big part here tasks like do

1237
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 4: you think, okay, he's gone? Brown is gone? We knew

1238
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: that was gonna happen. He was there seven seasons this

1239
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 4: long damn time. You obviously oversaw the process and all

1240
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 4: that couldn't give them to the next level. Do you

1241
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 4: think though, that the shakeup does need to happen there

1242
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 4: in the front office as well. It can't just be

1243
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 4: the coach. It's got to be a little bit more

1244
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 4: of the decision makers in building the roster and moving forward.

1245
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 5: So what is the the decision of the front office.

1246
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 5: Elton Brand's going to stick around, but we're going to

1247
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 5: shake up the how we how we do what? What

1248
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 5: are they doing? What are what are they doing in.

1249
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 4: The front office there? Oh So this is just classic

1250
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: like type of talk, you know, like organizational talk that

1251
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 4: will throw into the press release or a leak to whoever.

1252
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 4: And we're not really going to do anything except hire

1253
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 4: a new coach.

1254
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 5: I have no idea as far as Brett Brown goes.

1255
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 5: He needs a replacement. That's going to be hard on

1256
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 5: Joel embiid that's what the job should be. That's your

1257
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 5: job description, and then yeah, buy into what we're doing.

1258
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 5: So I think Tyler makes sense. I think he he

1259
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 5: definitely had the respect that Lebron James when they won

1260
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 5: that Finals trophy, And that would be a fitting guy

1261
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 5: for me to try and get the most out of

1262
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 5: Joel Embiid. And they're not trading Embid. They're not trading

1263
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 5: trading Simmons right now. Of all the guys mentioned, you know,

1264
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: Ja k d And and Jay Wright and and Amy Udoka,

1265
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 5: I think that would be the fit for me. I

1266
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 5: guess Tyler would get that job. But Tyler probably has

1267
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 5: a couple options, probably has a couple of choices.

1268
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: Tyler, you better do a good job. If he's the

1269
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 4: Sixers coach, You're gonna see a lot of that, a

1270
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: whole lot of it.

1271
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: What do you think, Trey, I think Tyler should hire

1272
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: Alan Iverson as his assistant coach and take over the Sixers.

1273
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: Really mash that beef. But you gotta hope that Elton

1274
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: brand is getting help. Who knows what a shake up

1275
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: in the front office means. But something needs to change

1276
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: there because Brett Brown is being fired because he's the

1277
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: easiest change to make. Like Tas said, they're not changing

1278
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: Trading and Beater Simmons. Elton brand is not going to

1279
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: fire himself. Something had to change, and it ended up

1280
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: being Brett Brown. But the reason I feel like the

1281
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: Sixers were so bad is that they took a team

1282
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: that was four bounces from making the conference finals, after

1283
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: they had drafted Markel Foltz a point guard number one,

1284
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: after they had brought in Jimmy Butler to handle the ball,

1285
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: two big moves saying we need ball handling and playmaking.

1286
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: Those guys are both gone, so we're not bringing any

1287
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: ball handling and playmaking. It didn't make any sort of sense.

1288
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: You know, there's just too much on Simmons for a

1289
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: guy who hasn't been able to stay on the court,

1290
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: just like Joel Embiid hasn't been able to stay on

1291
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: the court. John Hondra has a great breakdown in the

1292
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: Athletic of all the moves that have been made by

1293
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: the Sixers since Sam Hinkey was ousted from the front office.

1294
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 4: And it's bad.

1295
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, like they're trading extra picks, which they stockpiled

1296
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: to be able to do, but they're trading extra picks

1297
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: for half a season of Jimmy Butler or a whole

1298
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: bunch of picks for Tobias Harris when he's going to

1299
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: be a free agent that coming summer. There have been

1300
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: a lot of mistakes. The team doesn't make sense personnel wise,

1301
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: so that to me is the biggest thing that needs

1302
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: to change. The people who are bringing the players in

1303
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: aren't picking good players. It's hard to be a coach

1304
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: and it's hard to have a cohesive team if the

1305
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: pieces don't fit.

1306
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought ESPN's Kevin Pelton made a good point

1307
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: yesterday when it comes to whether or not you can

1308
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 4: find a coach to fix the sixer with this roster

1309
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: currently as it is, and he said, we have seen

1310
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: seemingly weaker rosters that have been transformed into contenders just

1311
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 4: by a visionary coach right in his words, the Warriors

1312
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 4: are a great example. Of course, the Raptors are a

1313
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: very recent example. So it can happen. I do believe

1314
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 4: that unlocking Embiid and Simmons together, like you're talking about tasks,

1315
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 4: or at least getting more out of Embiid and maybe

1316
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 4: getting these other guys working better in their roles. So, yeah,

1317
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 4: this is what they're gonna do. We always set it

1318
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 4: right from the get go. They're gonna get a new

1319
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: coach and give it a chance. Also, you just don't

1320
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 4: want to tank your potential trade value of any of

1321
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 4: your two guys, Embider Simmons by saying we're gonna have

1322
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 4: to trade in Beader Simmons, Like, why would you ever

1323
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 4: do that? Anyway, even if you are thinking long term,

1324
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,959
Speaker 4: you're gonna do that. So we'll see, Tylu someone else

1325
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 4: will have a go at it and see if they

1326
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: can do a better job. Brett Brown, It has been

1327
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 4: interesting this timing. Did you guys see the reports of like, well,

1328
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler actually left because Brett Brown and him were clashing.

1329
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 4: You know, you know, is that again? Is that just perfect?

1330
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 4: You know Burry the guy as he's walking out of

1331
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 4: the door, sort of mentality here and guys in the

1332
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 4: front order, front office sort of seaving feast a little bit. Well,

1333
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 4: look it was Brett Brown. I mean, that's why we

1334
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 4: couldn't keep Jimmy. That's why we lost Jimmy. That's always

1335
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 4: a possibility, or maybe it was real. I mean, Jimmy

1336
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 4: has been known to clash with people, so that could

1337
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: have been the case. But you know, you have a

1338
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 4: great relationship with Brett Brown.

1339
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 5: Lee.

1340
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 4: You can never remember who you are or anything to

1341
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 4: add to this.

1342
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: No, but the Jimmy Butler thinking thing. I mean they

1343
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: were clashing basically as soon as Jimmy turned up there.

1344
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: You know, he was unhappy with the film sessions, apparently

1345
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: calling out Brett Brown. But look on paper, I think

1346
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: you know, Siemons, Embid and Horford and Richardson. I like

1347
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 3: that on paper. So if the right coach can come

1348
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: in and find how to sort of spread the floor

1349
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: and get these guys shots and get these guys dominating

1350
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: from their positions, then there's something there. There certainly plenty

1351
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: to work with in Philadelphia, but Harford may not be there,

1352
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 3: who knows, And maybe they do make another trade for

1353
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: you know, to get rich of Tobias Harris or someone

1354
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 3: but tough with those contracts. So I think if you

1355
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: are the incoming coach, you have to assume you're going

1356
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: to have both of those guys and you just.

1357
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 4: Have to figure out a way to work.

1358
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 3: Now, if it does work, then I think the Sixers

1359
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: can become a legitimate title contender immediately if they can

1360
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 3: get everyone on the right page. But if it doesn't,

1361
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: then it probably says more about the roster construction rather

1362
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: than the coach because you know Brett Brown, I mean,

1363
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: I think he is a good coach. I don't know

1364
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 3: if he gets another opportunity somewhere else, but he wasn't

1365
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: able to get the best out of those guys someone

1366
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: else can, then that is a bad look on Brett Brown.

1367
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 3: But if someone else can't, then it probably shows you

1368
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 3: more to do with just how that team was put

1369
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 3: together rather than who was coaching it.

1370
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 4: In other coaching news, the Brooklyn Nets, who are eliminated

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01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: from the playoffs on Sunday, are reportedly interested in Spurs

1372
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 4: icon Greg Popovich as their next head coach. And we'll

1373
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 4: explore that possibility. Cham's drop this bombshell on Monday, Lee,

1374
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 4: let's go to you for it. Is you saying Greg

1375
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 4: part hanging it up, He's not even to be coaching anymore.

1376
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 4: But Seam says, no, no, no, The Nets are going

1377
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 4: to explore the possibility. What are the chances of this happening?

1378
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: Well, it makes sense when you have Kyrie and Kevin

1379
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: Durant there that Popovich is the one who's going to

1380
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: immediately command respect from those guys, like a Phil Jackson

1381
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: when he went with show Shaq and Kobe. You know,

1382
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 3: so these guys are going to listen, and they're going

1383
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 3: to buy in immediately, and they're gonna they're going to,

1384
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 3: you know, fight for the right reasons. They're going to

1385
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 3: go out there and put the team first and all that.

1386
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 3: So that makes perfect sense. What I don't think Popovich

1387
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 3: wants to do is move at this stage of his life.

1388
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: I think he's more than happy in San Antonio living there.

1389
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: I don't think he wants to go and live in

1390
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: New York. And also it's sort of Popovich is fine

1391
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 3: and he enjoys developing young players. So while the Spurs

1392
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: are clearly now at a stage where they're going to

1393
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 3: have to sort of start again. You look at some

1394
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: of their young pieces they've got there, Keldon Johnson, Jante Murray,

1395
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 3: for example. Papovich likes getting a lot out of these guys.

1396
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: Look at someone like Derek White, the growth he's shown

1397
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 3: in last couple of years. He was on Team USA

1398
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: last year, and I think and I remember pop talk

1399
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: talking about how he loves working with young guys and

1400
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 3: getting the best out of them. So going to a

1401
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 3: situation where he has two legit stars already, it's a

1402
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: different challenge for sure. The expectations are immediately to contend,

1403
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 3: and that may appeal to Pop to say, you know what,

1404
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: I don't I want to go to a team where

1405
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: I know I can win a championship again and have

1406
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: that feeling. But I just don't think he wants to

1407
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: do that. I think he would rather just stay in

1408
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: San Antonio. So I'd be very surprised if he makes

1409
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: this move.

1410
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 4: Tas, what are the odds of this aver happening? I

1411
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 4: love math?

1412
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 5: What's lower than zero and negative?

1413
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 4: Don't you see there?

1414
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: No?

1415
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: I I doubt it. How would it?

1416
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 3: How?

1417
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 5: How? It just doesn't make much sense. I guess if

1418
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 5: Pop is just feeling it one day and he says

1419
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 5: I want to try something new and he feels like

1420
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 5: going out into Brooklyn, and of course he would make

1421
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 5: them a lot better and he would make the roster cohesive. Sure,

1422
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 5: but yeah, I just don't see the logic behind Pop

1423
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 5: moving on at this point of his career.

1424
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see why the NETS would want to explore

1425
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 4: the possibility. Yeah, and Pop does have a lot of

1426
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 4: connections right to a lot of people in the NETS organization.

1427
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 4: I mean there's Sean Marx is a GM, the assistant

1428
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: GM obviously Spurs Ties, jacq Von himself, other assistant coaches

1429
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 4: like Thiago Splitter. There's a lot of former Spurs personnel there,

1430
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 4: so maybe it was once gets the band back together

1431
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 4: pop I think it's unlikely, but yeah sure. I mean,

1432
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 4: if anything, this just shows your your Net stars like

1433
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 4: Katie and Kyrie, like, oh yeah, you guys think that

1434
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 4: would be a good idea. Okay, we'll explore the possibility.

1435
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 4: I mean, like, just even throwing that out there to

1436
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 4: the world at least looks good, like, Hey, no, we

1437
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 4: are serious about taking this to the next level. We're

1438
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 4: gonna try and get the best coach of all time.

1439
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 4: Maybe in here he'll probably say no, but we're gonna try,

1440
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 4: and that says something. So anything to add here, Trey, Yeah,

1441
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 4: where were the bulls at on this one?

1442
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: Jim Boylan, a former Greg Popovich assistant, they should be

1443
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: making the same pitch. He's our number one candidate. The

1444
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: question to me is this isn't gonna happen. But if

1445
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: it did, If if Greg Popovich wanted to go to

1446
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: the Nets, what would you trade for Popovich to be

1447
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: your coach? This laid into his career right because there

1448
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: was there was a coach trade Doc Rivers going to

1449
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 2: the Clippers. Is Greg Popovitch worth two first round picks

1450
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: of players who actually play basketball on the court for you?

1451
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 4: Two?

1452
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 3: Wow?

1453
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1454
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 4: I mean, the guy's the greatest coach in the history

1455
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 4: of the game. Some would say, huh sure to Maybe

1456
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 4: I guess too if you're I mean, I don't know

1457
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 4: how many picks do the Nets have. I don't have

1458
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 4: the top of my head here, but.

1459
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: I think I think they're back into at least normal credit.

1460
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 3: You know, they didn't have to take five years, but

1461
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 3: I think they've they've kept the run going forward.

1462
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 5: But wow, wow, it'd also be bad picks as far

1463
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 5: as you know. They're in the twenties most likely with

1464
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving.

1465
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, true, true, and yeah, and you would expect, like,

1466
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, is it pick that logan to help

1467
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 4: them immediately, because like they're thinking, yeah, title contender right now.

1468
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 4: If you brought Pop in as your coach and you

1469
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 4: have those two guys and they and still even young

1470
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 4: talent around them, that's interesting. I guess, so, Trey, I

1471
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 4: guess the answer is absolutely.

1472
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: Doc Rivers apparently was an unprotected one first round pick, right,

1473
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: and I mean he was you know he was, I

1474
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: guess seven years after winning the title with the Celtics.

1475
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: At that point, it will be six and a half

1476
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: years for Greg Popovitch the last one. He's obviously older.

1477
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: You're probably not going to get him for ten or

1478
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: fifteen years, like the Clippers are hoping.

1479
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

1480
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,959
Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna be late twenties picks. But maybe

1481
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: if you're the Spurs, maybe if Greg Popovich is working

1482
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: that double agent role, he can say.

1483
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 4: I've seen the medicals, they're not good. Take the unprotected picks,

1484
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 4: Kyrie and Katie are going down. We're getting the top five.

1485
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,479
Speaker 4: And then he comes back to San Antonio just saying

1486
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 4: it could happen. Wow, that would be incredible. I love

1487
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 4: that theory. Okay, let's start wrapping this up. Let's get

1488
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 4: to tweet of the night. Tweet of the night, Wow, Twitt.

1489
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 4: All right, We've had too much basketball in this podcast today,

1490
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 4: so I'm veering here with this tweet of the night.

1491
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: At Picks eleven News, they tweet KFC said in a

1492
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 4: statement that they are pausing the use of finger licking

1493
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 4: good in marketing because it does not seem appropriate for

1494
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 4: twenty twenty. Do you agree? That's my question to you, Lee,

1495
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 4: KFC getting rid of finger licking Good as that great slogan,

1496
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 4: what do you think?

1497
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 3: I think this is reverse publicity that they're actually saying, Hey,

1498
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: let's get some publicity going again there so everyone can

1499
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: talk about KFC's trademark slogan finger licking Good. Everyone's going

1500
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 3: to start talking about again, they're going to go to

1501
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 3: KFC because I think so, they're.

1502
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 4: Not actually going to get rid of it either of this.

1503
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

1504
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 3: I think it's just that reverse psychology, like let's just

1505
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: put it out there, pretend we're getting rid of it,

1506
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: just to get people talking about it again.

1507
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 4: Do you like KFC?

1508
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 3: Well, you know in Sumbury that was the first fast

1509
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: food restaurant really we got KFC. Yeah, so yeah, I

1510
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 3: used to love going down there, but I haven't. I mean,

1511
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 3: I just haven't had it for years. But they always

1512
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 3: had better fries than anywhere else. I'd say their fries

1513
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 3: are the best ones I've ever had because they had,

1514
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 3: you know, the seasoning on them was great. Sot out

1515
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 3: to KFC because McDonald's fries are just salt but the

1516
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 3: seasoning on the KFC fries were always better.

1517
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, finger licking good fries, Uh.

1518
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: You probably can, yeah, dash them you think about Canada?

1519
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: Actually was every time in the summer you got to

1520
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 3: someone's house for a barbecue, always a bucket of KFC.

1521
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 3: Then yeah, someone's like, bang there it is barbecue fried

1522
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 3: chicken at a barbecue. Okay, it's delicious.

1523
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 4: Although I've always said KFC tastes better the second day.

1524
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 4: It's the weirdest thing. Cold chicken. It love cold KFC. Yeah,

1525
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 4: I just straight up by the bucket, don't touch it,

1526
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 4: put it right in the fridge, eat it all the

1527
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 4: next day ten times better. I swear to got then

1528
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 4: and then warm. And that's very weird for me because

1529
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 4: I like hot food way more than most co cold food.

1530
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 4: But something about KFC that skin, I don't know, it

1531
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 4: gets a little more crispy there, right. Is that going

1532
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 4: to be their new catch phrase?

1533
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: If they're dropping finger licking Good, their new one is

1534
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: buy a bucket, don't touch it, chick cold from KFC.

1535
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: They gotta have a replacement. That's a classic slogan.

1536
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: They're gonna regret saying goodbye to finger looking good We're

1537
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: gonna look back on this like the Harden trade.

1538
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 4: Task, finger looking good? Are you with Lee? Is this

1539
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 4: just it ain't going anywhere? Are you kidding me? Yeah?

1540
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 5: They still got the pat and they'll bring it back

1541
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 5: no problem, whenever they want to bring it back next year. Yeah,

1542
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 5: everybody still got fingers next year. I'm pretty sure they'll

1543
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 5: bring it back.

1544
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 4: All right, Good, let's get to game of the day.

1545
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 4: Only two games on. Oh my god, our first day

1546
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:46,480
Speaker 4: in a long time without quadruple header action, the quadzilla

1547
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 4: as you've called it before.

1548
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 3: Task.

1549
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 4: What are our games?

1550
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 5: Doubleheader on TNT Jazz Nuggets Jazz up three to one

1551
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 5: in that series, the old six thirty Eastern start, and

1552
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 5: then the nightcap MAVs Clippers whole baby tied at deuces.

1553
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 5: Game five.

1554
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 4: Well, that's not just the game five, that's a pivotal

1555
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 4: Game five five.

1556
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 5: I agree, this is gonna be a big pivot in

1557
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 5: the series. Whoever takes this thing. Christaps porzingis game time decision.

1558
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 5: After having that MRI on his knee came back negative,

1559
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 5: so it's a good sign. And after watching his boy

1560
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 5: Luca play on that bum ankle, Christaps songs it's not

1561
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 5: serious I'm guessing will be out there, but who knows.

1562
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 5: Hopefully he's out there for this game. That Clippers are

1563
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 5: gonna be feisty, they are going to be angry. I

1564
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 5: think Doc Rivers will get them riled up for this

1565
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 5: game should be a good one.

1566
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 4: What's the over underline on Paul George's points on this

1567
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 4: six and a half. He'll go for thirty tonight. Watch

1568
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 4: that's gonna be a big playoff p game. Unfortunately. Lets

1569
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 4: me talking to the playoff man.

1570
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: Do you wanna do you wanna? Do you want to

1571
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 3: head your Chris Middleton bet? I'll give you Paul George

1572
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: at thirty two and a half points?

1573
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 4: That I okay.

1574
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 3: So Paul George has to score more than thirty two,

1575
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 3: more than thirty two points.

1576
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 4: No, I don't want that.

1577
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 3: I know.

1578
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 4: I thought you're gonna give me the under in that option.

1579
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm saying you can trade it in

1580
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: for your Chris Middleton if you want. He's got to go.

1581
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 4: Oh, just like completely get rid of my Chris Middleton.

1582
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 3: Was the bet is done tonight?

1583
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: Bet is done tonight.

1584
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: You can take thirty three Paul George points or you

1585
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 3: can have thirty.

1586
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 5: O wow, Okay, okay, okay, Paul George is averaging fifteen

1587
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 5: points in this series.

1588
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what, but this is good. Is it

1589
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 4: more likely that Paul George yeah, goes for thirty three

1590
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 4: or more today, or that Chris Middleton scores thirty five?

1591
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 4: You know, probably a blowout win. Okay, I'll take it.

1592
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 4: I like that. I'll take Paul George. All right, I'm back,

1593
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 4: come on to me, all right.

1594
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 3: You're the only thing you gotta do is you got

1595
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 3: to text Grish and ask him if he would have

1596
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 3: taken that same deal.

1597
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 4: So okay, and I'll also make my notes so we

1598
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 4: can keep track of all this. Okay, final question here

1599
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 4: before we go, Lee, what the hell are you gonna

1600
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 4: do all day?

1601
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: Now?

1602
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 4: The basketball isn't on it, you know, starting up at

1603
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 4: one o'clock now, the first game is until six thirty tonight.

1604
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? Well? It's great.

1605
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 3: School has started though, for my my own ge old

1606
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: so when he finished fishes like one thirty one, thirty

1607
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: schools finished. They started eight in the morning and they're

1608
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 3: done at one thirty. So yeah, I've got I've got

1609
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 3: a full off the know though it's been raining all day.

1610
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure what we're gonna do this all.

1611
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 4: You're gonna be cooped up inside today.

1612
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 5: Man.

1613
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll we'll figure something out. Yeah yeah,

1614
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 3: we'll do something leg going.

1615
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 4: So your answer is just ran some PlayStations, tray, What

1616
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 4: are you doing today? Anything? Yeah?

1617
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: If i'd my tittley wink set, so you're gonna throw

1618
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: down you know, not even tittly a wink.

1619
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 4: What is that?

1620
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 2: Like you like like bop it and like it pops

1621
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: the thing into a Look, I'm just talking about tittlely

1622
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: winks according to Looney Tunes. I don't know if this

1623
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: is the actual way to play it, but it seemed

1624
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 2: like you would press on a tittlely wink with another

1625
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: tittly wink. Tittleywink a bounces into a cup and then

1626
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: you win.

1627
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 4: That's what tiddley Wings is. I don't know. I always

1628
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 4: know twinks was oddly like what was that one game

1629
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 4: where it was like a bunch of like almost like

1630
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 4: chicken skewers and like you had to remove them and

1631
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 4: hope something didn't fall through.

1632
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: You know what game plunk It or something was I

1633
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: thought that was, which I don't know why I thought

1634
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 3: that was called I thought you had to like, yeah,

1635
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 3: you sort of press on one thing to flip it

1636
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 3: up into the.

1637
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 4: Sounds like I'm wrong for sure. A right going to

1638
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 4: try and look up Tidley Winks today.

1639
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 5: Now you're gonna tell m hmmm, yeah, I'm gonna go

1640
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 5: wink some tittles the old Game Store, which is closed.

1641
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go wing some tittles down

1642
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 4: the old Game Store which is closed. All right, let's

1643
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 4: call it there. Email us your questions and comments to

1644
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 4: No Dunks at the Athletic dot com, grab yourself some

1645
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 4: No Dunks merch over at No dunks dot com. And

1646
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 4: if you listen to the podcast us on iTunes, please

1647
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: leave your boys a five star rating and review Clipper Bros.

1648
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 4: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up,

1649
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome.

1650
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us, and remember playoff p his playoff

1651
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,839
Speaker 5: average in his career nineteen point eight points six years,

1652
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 5: where he averaged nineteen points or more nineteen between nineteen

1653
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 5: and twenty nine points. He's gonna have a b go

1654
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 5: playoff pee.

1655
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 4: Pray to stay people. You could stay boom every day.

1656
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: And dog you happy every minute.

1657
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 4: It's been so long with your Lona.

1658
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: Way he's having already.

1659
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 4: It's gonna be Greavy

1660
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 5: M