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Speaker 1: And broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the

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Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and gettys not live

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Speaker 2: to Armstrong and Getty on demand or one more thing

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Speaker 2: we think.

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Speaker 4: You'll enjoy it, sir, choices we get in l those

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Speaker 4: were your choices.

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Speaker 2: Somebody got shot? O?

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Speaker 4: How good? Hold on the dirty dead?

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Speaker 3: What do I want with my da do?

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Speaker 4: Shaddy?

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Speaker 2: What the hell is this?

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Speaker 4: Everybody that is?

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Speaker 2: That is rapper too low? Who is a pairing as

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Speaker 2: a kiss? A guest on a podcast? Who the gun

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Speaker 2: went off in his pocket? Apparently somehow?

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Speaker 5: Okay? First of all, guests on a podcast. To have

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Speaker 5: a podcast, all you need to do is own a

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Speaker 5: phone or a computer. So is this a podcast with

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Speaker 5: any I mean anyway? So he's sitting around talking to

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Speaker 5: a guy and his gun goes off. What's the most

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Speaker 5: interesting to me is these people live such a lifestyle.

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Speaker 5: The reaction is, Hey, who's gun went off?

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Speaker 3: Somebody's gone.

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Speaker 2: Who pretty, somebody's gun went off. Whereas most of the

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Speaker 2: company I keep, if there were a gun shot in

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Speaker 2: the room, we would all be quite flabbergasted. Who shot? Who?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, is that a gun in your pocket?

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Speaker 2: Or you're just happy to be on my podcast. Say

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Speaker 2: that again, Michael. Just the beginning of it.

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Speaker 4: And choices we got in life. Those were your choices.

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Speaker 2: All right. Getting back to our topic, motivating ourselves for

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Speaker 2: the new year, rapper too low. If you need to

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Speaker 2: stick to your diet through January, that's beautiful. So there

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Speaker 2: are a couple of things I wanted to do yesterday

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Speaker 2: as kind of a kicking off the year thing. But

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Speaker 2: we have so much let's to get to it. We

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Speaker 2: can't get to all of it. But I love this.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit you with part of it and then

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Speaker 3: we'll move on.

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Speaker 2: We got a bunch of stuff. But this is written

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Speaker 2: by a guy named Jeff Goldstein, who is a writer

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Speaker 2: I really like, and he has this redeclaration of independence,

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Speaker 2: and you'll know what he's driving at immediately.

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Speaker 3: Be it so understood. This is my vow for the

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Speaker 3: new year, too. I refuse to.

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Speaker 2: Unpack white violence. I reject the idea that my existence

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Speaker 2: perpetuates white power structures. I will not, and in fact cannot,

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Speaker 2: examine my ipplicit biases. I'm an indo. I refuse to

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Speaker 2: grant determined interpretive communities authority over my being. My meaning

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Speaker 2: is mine, is what makes me me. I'm not taking

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Speaker 2: any journey to discover the impact of my privilege on

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Speaker 2: black and brown people's I will not become anti racist

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Speaker 2: or anti fascist to satisfy your demands. I reject cultural Marxism.

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Speaker 2: I am an individual. I'm not defined by my color,

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Speaker 2: my lrige, and my sex. I'm jeff good to meet you.

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Speaker 2: I will not respect your pronouns or celebrate your queerness.

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Speaker 2: I am hostile to your sexualization of children. I reject

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Speaker 2: your triggers and your desire to control my speech. I

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Speaker 2: know who and what you are. You are my presumptive master,

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Speaker 2: or else the useful idiot who empowers him. But I

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Speaker 2: will grant you and your ideology no power over me.

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Speaker 2: There's more you want to hear a little more sure.

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Speaker 2: I reject equity because it is collectivism disguised as virtue.

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Speaker 2: I reject inclusivity because it is inorganic superficial and contrived.

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Speaker 2: I reject mandated diversity. I will not surrender to the

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Speaker 2: crayon box mafia, nor do the gender changelings who pretend

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Speaker 2: I am construct answerable to their whims. Cultural appropriation is

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Speaker 2: merely culture. It expands to include, and it makes up

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Speaker 2: the very fabric of a pluralistic society. There's no such

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Speaker 2: thing as digital blackface. My whiteness is not violent, my

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Speaker 2: sex is not oppressive. My religion doesn't concern you, and

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Speaker 2: my children are not your stam mold. Your beliefs will

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Speaker 2: not be imposed on me. The state will not parent

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Speaker 3: Theory. Yes, digital blackface, I'd forgotten that term.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and again if you've lost a thread, This

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Speaker 2: is a re declaration of independence. Queer theory is critical.

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Speaker 2: Race theory is critical. Consciousness is the Marxist rejection of

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Speaker 2: many states queer theory is being taught in schools to

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Speaker 2: more time. Queer theory is critical. Race theory is critical.

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Speaker 2: Consciousness is the Marxist rejection of the individual as individual.

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Speaker 2: Cultural Marxism is determined to raise norms so chaos tear

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Speaker 2: families asunder and reduce being to collective conformity. I reject

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Speaker 2: its premises as fully as I reject its adherents. I

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Speaker 2: will not comply. I will not mouth your slogans. I

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Speaker 2: will not denounce on command. I am not your tool,

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Speaker 2: and you are not my minder. And he has a

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Speaker 2: little more about my speech is my own. I reject

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Speaker 2: each of your excuses to silence me. I don't ask

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Speaker 2: for your protections. I can filter information without your interference,

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Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg, and I despise your presumption to protect me

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Speaker 2: from myself. I am your sworn enemy, and you are mine.

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Speaker 2: I will not perform for you. I will not read

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Speaker 2: from your script or dance in your follies. Oh my brother,

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Speaker 2: we'll post this at armstrong egedi dot com. It is brilliant,

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Speaker 2: and he goes on.

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Speaker 5: But that's the main party, and it fits in with

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Speaker 5: that Wall Street Journal article I was reading from last hour.

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Speaker 5: The progressive moment in global politics is over. That moment

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Speaker 5: existed mostly online and with the you know, high level

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Speaker 5: was misleading because it was so prevalent in you know, TV,

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Speaker 5: best thing that could happen to people that are on

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Speaker 5: the right side of that, and you could be a

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Speaker 5: stuff by a law shirt like Bill Maherr and lots

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Speaker 5: of people. The best thing that could happen for us

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I'm reminded of something great you brought to us, I

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Speaker 2: think it was last year about how it only takes

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Speaker 2: to make it successful. Because you want to give us

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Speaker 5: That, Yeah, you have to have the fifteen percent really

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Speaker 2: But you get a big enough chunk of people who

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Speaker 2: mostly agree with you. They're not going to really do much,

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Speaker 2: then you have the crowd that's scared of you, and

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Speaker 3: Get over fifty percent, right right, and that's how you in.

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Speaker 2: And imagine if you were in that hardcore fifteen percent

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Speaker 2: Imagine if your first step was to capture media and education.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that would be an enormous coupe because you could,

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Speaker 2: and I'm stating the obvious here, you could project the

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Speaker 2: do for your radical ideas, like radical gender theory, which

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Speaker 2: I will give you a clue. It's like over a

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Speaker 2: third of American states are teaching radical theory. There's no

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Speaker 2: with the fight. Trudeau resigning in Canada is a lot

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Speaker 2: And the what's really troubling about this, and we've had

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Speaker 2: just you keep calling it fifteen percent for the sake

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Speaker 3: You get your hardcore fifteen percent activists.

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Speaker 2: Well, the genius of neo Marxism developed in the intellectual

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Speaker 3: An adherent to Neo Marxism.

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Speaker 2: And it's particularly effective among women who want to seek

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Speaker 2: And it's particularly successful among your university crowd who want

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Speaker 4: And choices we got in laye, those were your choices?

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Speaker 2: Whobody been calmer than that shot?

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Speaker 3: Who did somebody get shot?

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Speaker 2: Huh? What? It would be the most amazing thing that

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Speaker 2: Rich Lowry from the National Review of Rich says who

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Speaker 4: And choices we got in lay Those were your choices?

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Speaker 2: Who? It actually pretty interesting conversation before you know, the

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Speaker 2: and rave about the previous story for the rest of

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Speaker 2: my life. But Jan Crawford was on CBS's face the

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Speaker 3: I saw that, and she brought the thunder.

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Speaker 2: That the most uncovered and underreported topic last year was

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Speaker 2: clearly she said, quote that to me, Joe Biden's obvious

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Speaker 2: cognitive decline. They became undeniable in the televised debate, unquestioned

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Speaker 5: he regrets that he dropped out of the race, that

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Speaker 5: But CBS's chief Election.

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Speaker 2: And campaign correspondent Robert Costa jumped up and said, well,

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a run on those giant Schnauzer.

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Speaker 3: When our negotiator in chief inks this monumental deal.

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Speaker 2: How do I handle this whole situation? And it's all

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Speaker 2: and billions of dollars that are on the line.

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Speaker 3: It's impossible to think that that's true.

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Speaker 2: And even if it doesn't motivate them to do the

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Speaker 2: opposite of what they would have done otherwise, it can definitely,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm forty percent sure this is a good idea. Wait, wait,

445
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Speaker 2: you're gonna donate enough money that I can get elected

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Speaker 2: for as many terms as I want for the rest

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Speaker 2: of my life. Yeah, I'm fifty one percent sure.

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Speaker 5: Are a lot mostly non elected officials involved in all

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Speaker 5: that stuff, all these different committees and agencies and stuff

450
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Speaker 5: like that. I don't know anything about their motivations. But again,

451
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Speaker 5: when you got that much money slashing around, I mean,

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Speaker 5: the various pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be doing their jobs if

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Speaker 5: they weren't trying to influence these people with you know,

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Speaker 5: we'll give you a gazillion dollar grant to study this

455
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Speaker 5: if you vote yes. The other weird thing around the vaccine,

456
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Speaker 5: You're going to see a whole bunch of Democrats today

457
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Speaker 5: beaten up RFK Junior for his stance on vaccines. All

458
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Speaker 5: of that flipped during COVID. My whole life, our whole

459
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Speaker 5: lives have been talking about all these moms in Marin County,

460
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Speaker 5: in the Bay Area who wouldn't get their kids vaccinated.

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Speaker 2: Super hippie lefty liberals. Remember the old the saying used

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Speaker 2: to be people that don't vaccinate their kids are all

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Speaker 2: within a certain radius of a Whole Foods.

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Speaker 3: That was always because it was true.

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Speaker 2: I live in a town like that full of lefty

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Speaker 2: moms who didn't want to vaccinate their kids. Now it's

467
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Speaker 2: a maga, crazy right wing nut job thing. How did

468
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Speaker 2: that happen?

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Speaker 3: How did y'all switch teams so fast?

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Speaker 2: I think if you can answer that question, you understand

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Speaker 2: human beings, and please at that point share it with

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Speaker 2: the rest of us.

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Speaker 5: And then one more thing before it starts to show. Officially,

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Speaker 5: we had the breaking Kennedy news at the end of

475
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Speaker 5: the show yesterday we read part of the Caroline Kennedy

476
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Speaker 5: letter about her own brother. It didn't mean that to

477
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Speaker 5: be any endorsement of Caroline Kennedy. If you've listened to

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Speaker 5: the show for a long time, I don't hold the

479
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Speaker 5: Kennedy's in high regard In any way.

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Speaker 2: They ought to be banned. I think that we ought

481
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Speaker 2: to offer them the following bargain. You can be jailed

482
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Speaker 2: or exiled permanently, or you can change your name. I

483
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Speaker 2: never want to hear the damn name Kennedy again, No,

484
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Speaker 2: except for that nice gal from MTV is now on

485
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Speaker 2: Fox News. But worth keeping in mind the blast from Carroll,

486
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Speaker 2: Sweet Carol, from Caroline Kennedy about her brother. She was

487
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Speaker 2: up until like a couple of months ago saying Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden is fit for office for another term.

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Speaker 3: So keep that in mind in terms of her judgment

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Speaker 3: or how honest she is.

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Speaker 8: I the armstrong and getting show.

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Speaker 5: I wanted Joe to make an argument for why I

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Speaker 5: should be worried about the billionaires and being at the

494
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Speaker 5: inauguration and being too close to Trump and whatever. This

495
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Speaker 5: oligarchy that Biden warned us about the other night. Bernie

496
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Speaker 5: talked about this lest yesterday with the Treasury Secretary some one.

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Speaker 3: Of your confirmation hearings. Here's Bernie Sanders. We don't talk

498
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Speaker 3: about this enough.

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Speaker 7: And that is when you got three people on top

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Speaker 7: well more wealth than the bottom half of American society,

501
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Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy million people. You know what, that's oligauchy.

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Speaker 7: When you have massive concentration of ownership in our economy,

503
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Speaker 7: fewer and fewer corporations owning and controlling the economy, that's oligauchy.

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Speaker 7: When you have more and more billionaires, whether it's Musk

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Speaker 7: owning Twitter or Murdoch owning a Fox, or other billionaires

506
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Speaker 7: owning newspapers.

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Speaker 3: That's oligarchy.

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Speaker 5: She didn't want to say bezos in the Washington Post

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Speaker 5: because they're on your side, right Ryan, Yeah, who's another

510
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Speaker 5: conservative Murdoch?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it? So well in what way? Well, what's

512
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Speaker 2: the argument for there shouldn't be billionaires? They've got too

513
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Speaker 2: much money? This is an oligarchy. I will tell you

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Speaker 2: this a couple of things.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Number one, if you are if you hope to be

517
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Speaker 2: a serious person, a person who of you it is said,

518
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Speaker 2: I don't always agree with him or her, but their

519
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Speaker 2: point of view is always worth taking in. You need

520
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Speaker 2: to be able to steal man the other side's argument,

521
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Speaker 2: the opposite of a straw man, where you construct the

522
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Speaker 2: ridiculous parody of their argument that knock it down and

523
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Speaker 2: feel all manly you see.

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Speaker 3: It all the time. It works. You've got to he dismissed.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'll tell you what, after a rough day, nothing

526
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Speaker 2: I like better than beating the hell out of a

527
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Speaker 2: straw man. But you know, you've got to construct a

528
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Speaker 2: very strong argument, as they would make it I've got

529
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Speaker 2: to admit I'm finding this argument, this assignment very, very difficult,

530
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Speaker 2: because I find the argument's weak. What I would say

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Speaker 2: is similar to Bernie. You have that much concentrated wealth

532
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Speaker 2: and power in a few people with a direct connection

533
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Speaker 2: line to the Presidency and the entire executive branch, they

534
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Speaker 2: will become a star chamber of the ultra wealthy, directing

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Speaker 2: US policy to their whims.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I did a good job. Evidently you

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Speaker 3: know my argument. How would you stop?

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Speaker 5: How would you first of all, how would you stop

539
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Speaker 5: the possibility of that? How would you limit the possibility

540
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Speaker 5: of that anyway within the bill of right?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No, no, it can't be done. There are a

542
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Speaker 2: couple of like really good counter arguments against that, even

543
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Speaker 2: if you admit.

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Speaker 3: That it's true. One, what are you gonna do about it?

545
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Speaker 2: If your net worth is more than fifty million dollars?

546
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Speaker 2: You don't get to a petition the government for a

547
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Speaker 2: redress of grievances.

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Speaker 5: Right, or you're not allowed to talk to your senator

549
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Speaker 5: or the president.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of visiting Washington, DC, if you ever strode

551
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Speaker 2: along Ky Street and seen all the beautiful, shiny buildings

552
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Speaker 2: that are full of lobbyists. That sort of thing is

553
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Speaker 2: already happening in spades every single day.

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Speaker 5: Obviously because of our bent, it's just so much easier

555
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Speaker 5: to take the other side of this.

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Speaker 2: Statistically. First of all, just start here. There are more

557
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Speaker 2: billionaires that donate to Democrats than there are donate to Republicans.

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Speaker 2: That's just an unknown fact. So and Bernie's against that.

559
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Speaker 2: In his defense, he is utterly misguided. But Bernie Sanders

560
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Speaker 2: is sincere true.

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Speaker 5: Bernie is as a socialist, he doesn't think billionaires should exist.

562
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Speaker 5: That is a nut job attitude. But Biden is fine

563
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Speaker 5: with the Democrat billionaires. He isn't like conservative billionaires. Oh yeah,

564
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Speaker 5: complete four one billionaires switch teams because a lot of

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Speaker 5: times billionaires are just going with whichever direction see Zuckerberg,

566
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Speaker 5: maybe whichever direction. Okay, they're in power, let's make them happy,

567
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 5: which you know is not a bad business model.

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Speaker 3: But first of all, it's a lot like we mock.

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Speaker 5: If it's going to be one hundred degrees, everybody gets

570
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 5: all excited as opposed to ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: It's just a round number. I don't know why somebody

572
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Speaker 2: who is whose net worth is nine hundred million dollars

573
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Speaker 2: is eh, do what you want to do. But once

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Speaker 2: you hit a billion, you're all of a sudden suspect

575
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Speaker 2: I got to kill you. You've got a billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: I mean that just seems like so if you got five.

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Speaker 2: Guys in the front row that each have three hundred

578
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Speaker 2: million dollars, don't need to think about them.

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Speaker 3: It's the two billionaires over there. Just it's just silly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I think this is this is

581
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Speaker 2: my final on this, and it's a very handy thing

582
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Speaker 2: to keep in your intellectual back pocket to bust out

583
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: in case of emergency. And that is Jefferson's famous declaration,

584
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: not of independence, but that he would rather attend to

585
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Speaker 2: the problems of too much liberty than too little. And

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Speaker 2: there are so many things like the billionaire argument, because

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Speaker 2: it's you know, it's reasonable to say, look, you got

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Speaker 2: people with incredible wealth and power. They can direct the

589
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Speaker 2: government in ways not foreseen by the Constitution. It's absolutely true.

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Speaker 2: But the cure would be worse than the disease. It's

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Speaker 2: it's a you know, to unfortunately bring up christin home. Agin.

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Speaker 2: My dog Baxter, God bless him, still hanging on. He's

593
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Speaker 2: a fabulous dog. He's very bright. He's very willful. He

594
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Speaker 2: is like a disobedient child. He will get away with

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Speaker 2: what he can. And you know, when I'm in the room,

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Speaker 2: he's good. But at the minute I walk out of

597
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Speaker 2: the room, he's like eight. The bus is gone. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I could certainly eliminate a lot of those problems by

599
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Speaker 2: shooting my dog like I'm Christino. It would absolutely, one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent cure those problems. Billionaire follow you, No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: what am I Luigi the psychopathic lunatic? No I am not. No.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is gosh, it would be nice to

603
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Speaker 2: not have those problems. But if the cure violates your

604
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Speaker 2: fundamental beliefs, then you've got to find another way. You've

605
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: either got to live with it or be more clever

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Speaker 2: about curing it. And one of the great sick tendencies

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Speaker 2: of the left, especially but not exclusively the left, especially

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Speaker 2: if you want to look at history, but one of

609
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Speaker 2: their sick tendencies is to say, this is a problem,

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Speaker 2: and this is a solution to that problem. Therefore we

611
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Speaker 2: must do it. And the idea that we don't get

612
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Speaker 2: to do that we need to just put up with

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Speaker 2: it or help a little bit. We don't to give

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Speaker 2: ourselves the power to cure that quote unquote problem would

615
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Speaker 2: make us monsters.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure a lot of the media even has

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Speaker 5: an argument. They just think that because I've seen a

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Speaker 5: fair amount of news coverage where it's just Elon Musk,

619
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Speaker 5: Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg. Will all three be attending the

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Speaker 5: inauguration on Monday. There are the three richest men in

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Speaker 5: the world.

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Speaker 2: And they plan to sit together, and they kind of

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Speaker 2: look at you like, huh, isn't that scary?

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Speaker 3: But with no follow up is why it would be

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Speaker 3: in any way?

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Speaker 2: I don't right, it's just appealing to like not spelled

627
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Speaker 2: out prejudices. It's like if you're in a group of

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Speaker 2: racists and somebody brings up a black man, for instance,

629
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Speaker 2: and somebody says something disparaging about them. Nobody says, all right, now,

630
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Speaker 2: let's have a discussion of the positive and negative aspects

631
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Speaker 2: of that person's character and whether that.

632
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Speaker 3: Was deserved or not.

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Speaker 2: No, they'll just snicker because they're racists, and that's the

634
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Speaker 2: way it is. It's just a tribal signaling thing. I

635
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: think they're way wrong on this. I think most people

636
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: admire billionaires, wish they could be a billionaire.

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Speaker 3: Think it's cool. Imagine what it'd be like to be

638
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Speaker 3: a billionaire.

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Speaker 5: I know there is a crowd college students or whatever

640
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Speaker 5: college professors who are just the term billionaire.

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Speaker 2: The idea of a billionaire makes them sick. But I

642
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Speaker 2: think that's like a tiny percentage of the country, don't you.

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Speaker 3: I would agree. I do think most people are bothered

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Speaker 3: by it.

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Speaker 2: The politics of envy is incredibly powerful too. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think, and this is crazy. Maybe you want to

647
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Speaker 2: jot this down. If a billionaire does something good, why

648
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: don't you say that's good? And if they do something bad,

649
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: say that's bad. And I don't like it. We'll go

650
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Speaker 2: from there, all right. They are elon trying to rein

651
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Speaker 2: in the shocking, sprawling, idiotic growth of the federal bureaucracies.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

653
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care what his net worth is.

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Speaker 5: I think it should be pointed out more than the one,

655
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Speaker 5: two and three richest people in the world are all

656
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Speaker 5: Americans who made their goal of it from scratch in

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Speaker 5: the United States of America. Because you can wow.

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Speaker 2: Great point.

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Speaker 6: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show