1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm just about that action awesome. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 3: All right. Here we go the growing in jone spect. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: So I'm saying it's a catch touchdown. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 4: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 4: go to win. That's incredible. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 3: Big banks, all banks. I like to make money. All right, 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: this is the ultimate kabation. You want to bet and 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: we are underway. 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. We are presented by FanDuel. 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 4: This is your NFL Week eight Best Bets episode. I'm 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: your host today, Brendan Glasheen, joined by three Action Network experts, 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 4: will be going through their three favorite bets for the 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 4: upcoming Week eight NFL Sunday Monday slate. As a reminder, 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 4: you can follow all of our picks and track them 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 4: on the Action app by following our account. It's Action 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 4: Network NFL Picks. Action Network NFL picks there every single week. 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 4: We are thirty four, twenty seven and two through seven 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 4: weeks on the show, over five hundred last week five 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 4: and four. Today's crew Brandon Anderson, He's always here. Luke 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: Swayne He's always here too, otherwise known as Vegas Refund. 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: Joe Golon is here as well. He brings you the 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: Touchdown Show. As a reminder, Luke, these guys are on 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: all of our content, but also catch Jill, who brings 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 4: you the Touchdown Show every Sunday morning during the NFL season. 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: That's at ten thirty am Eastern live on the Action app, 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 4: Action Network, HQ, Twitter, and also the Action Network YouTube page. 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 4: Before we get to the picks, a couple of things 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 4: to note. Chiefs and Chargers the only two teams on 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: the bye this week. Underdogs keep rowing, folks, It's the 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: year of the dog. Fifty seven percent hit rate. How 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: about this too, Favorites of seven points or more. We've 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: been seeing some pretty gigantic point spreads now the last 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: couple of weeks seven points or more. They're fifteen to 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: eight and one straight up, but eight and sixteen against 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: the spread. It is the least profitable start for touchdown 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 4: favorites in the last twenty years. And Unders remain a story. 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: Not as hot as they were the first couple of weeks, 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: but at fifty nine percent Unders doing well, it's the 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: best start through seven games for Unders in the last 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: twenty years. Before we get the actual picks as well, 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: Brandon Anderson will start with you how do you look 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: at this slate, this betting card for week eight, describe 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: it for us in a sentence. 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned those underdogs. This is a week where 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 5: we've got just a ton of tight spreads. I see 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 5: ten right now to fifteen games at four points or less. 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 5: That means every half point matters right now, Because I 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 5: looked at it, three is the key number. We all 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 5: know that that's the most important spot that the games 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 5: land on, but this season two and four are the 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 5: next most common, so every half point matters. We were 53 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 5: haggling over where we're going to get each of these 54 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 5: lines and make sure you're shopping around, get the best 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 5: line you can out there right up in Tell the pack. 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: Yep, they're getting sharper, that's for sure, Luke. What do 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: you make of this card this week? 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it really is just the lines becoming tighter and tighter, 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 6: where if the under like the unders have definitely regressed, 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 6: and if it's terrifying to think about whether the underdogs 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 6: are going to regress or not. But as you can see, 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 6: like parody in the league has never been this high, 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 6: just purely based off of the spreads that we're looking 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 6: at this week. 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, not a lot of really good teams. Like parody 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: is like a way of hiding. Yeah, it's a lot 67 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 4: of parody. 68 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 6: A lot of teams could win, but a lot of teams, 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 6: I mean everyone is just above average and there's just 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 6: a few elite where I think there's like two teams 71 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 6: in the NFC, Yeah that are winning records right now. 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is crazy. 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: I know it's parody. That word bugs me. Oh what 74 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: a parody this year? You know it's like, all right, well, 75 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: what does that mean? You can be really good, you 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: can really stink AnyWho. There's my take for you. I 77 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: guess what about you, Jill? How do you look at 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: the card? 79 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean you're seeing the under regression for totals also 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: take effect. There are eight games the totals under forty. 81 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: Two and half. 82 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: And I've been tweeting about this about how the touchdown 83 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: regression has been kind of in full effect. It just 84 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: in comparison to last year, after week seven we had 85 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: six hundred and eleven touchdowns. This year, after week seven 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: we have five hundred and seventeen, nearly one hundred touchdown. 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: Difference through seven weeks. 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: So you really got to pick your spots now for 89 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: touchdown betting, especially for totals as well. 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough, As we remind you every episode we 91 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: do these best bets. The guys have not consulted each 92 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: other before, because where's the fun in that. They all 93 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 4: come with their own homework. They don't take each other's homework. 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: But they put it this way. They kind of good, 95 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: you know how like the teacher used to let you 96 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 4: grade in class. Oh, it's all you switch your papers. 97 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: Oh it's great. That's what they kind of do here. 98 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 4: When we discuss the picks as we go. As we 99 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: go through, they may contradict, they may overlap. It's fun 100 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: every man for himself. So Brandon Anderson, per usual, get 101 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: us start at pick number one. 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna go with the Miami Dolphins minus 103 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 5: three and a half at the Lions. So you gotta 104 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 5: be careful here. I'm a big number is and all. 105 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: Those dboas and epas. 106 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: But the numbers don't really tell the story that well 107 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 5: for either one of these teams, because we had a 108 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 5: lot of injuries so far here both sides. So Detroit, 109 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 5: we've seen the big regression coming on offense, but it's 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 5: come with Amana Rossain Brown injured and then back but 111 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 5: injured again. DJ Sharki is out now. DeAndre Swift has 112 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 5: been injured but is back now. So they're skewed a 113 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 5: little bit. Miami, though, has been skewed, I think more 114 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 5: than we're giving credit for as well. Their offense has 115 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 5: been really good when Tua Tagovaloa plays, really not good 116 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 5: in games where they have this, you know, three games 117 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 5: now where they've had a backup or a big switch 118 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 5: or some weird funky quarterback thing happening. So when Tua 119 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 5: plays eight point six yards per attempt, that leads the league. 120 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 5: And we've got Tyreek Hill, we've got Jalen Waddle stretching 121 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: the field, wearing defenses down. When you look at Miami's 122 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: numbers each game, you consistently see second quarter, fourth quarter, 123 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 5: and second half. Basically they start a little slow, but 124 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 5: that speed wearing teams down. I think it's maybe the 125 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 5: new modern version of the old to run the ball, 126 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: run at you and just wear the team down. This 127 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 5: is like the modern Derrick Henry offense. We're just gonna 128 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 5: run at you all game, and the Lions defense is 129 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 5: telling the whole story. 130 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: The Lions defense is not good. 131 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 5: They did get a little better out of the bye 132 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 5: last week, but they're dead last in DVA pass defense 133 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 5: is dead last. They allow the second most explosive pass 134 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: plays in the league. This is not a team you 135 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 5: want to face when you were giving up explosive pass 136 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 5: plays because I see Tyreek Hill and Waddell getting big yardage, 137 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 5: big chunks down the field. And the difference here with 138 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 5: Tua back in the lineup when Miami has him most 139 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 5: of their snaps four to oh this season, they're all 140 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 5: three in the other game. So it really is that 141 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 5: stark of a comparison. Tua is third in EPA per play, 142 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 5: behind only Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, and he is 143 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 5: enough better than Teddy Bridgewater, who I think we kind 144 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 5: of said not much your drop off? Will the numbers 145 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 5: say otherwise? It's about the same drop from Tua to 146 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 5: ted as is from Pat Mahomes to Marcus Mariota. So 147 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 5: you put a Mahomes back in this offense with those 148 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 5: weapons against this Lions defense, I like the Dolphins to 149 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 5: win and cover. 150 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: It also feels like regression is taking place with the 151 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: Lions offensively. The totals at fifty one and a half 152 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 4: over at FanDuel. Their team total is it twenty three 153 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: and a half this week? A lot of injury questions. 154 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: It feels like we're still reacting to the Lions early 155 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: in the year and the injuries are really starting to 156 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: catch up with them. So keep an eye on that. 157 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: But I love the pick. It is a desperate spot 158 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: though for Detroit. Earlier in the week. Chad Millman of 159 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: Action Network, he hosts the Favorites podcast, He's on the 160 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: other side, so that should be fun to see how 161 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: that one unfolds. Luke, what's your first pick? 162 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 6: So my first one is gonna be the Cardinals as 163 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 6: a three and a half point dog going to Minnesota, 164 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 6: which this really is Hopkins being back and Kyler looking 165 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 6: like an absolutely different quarterback that he has been. With 166 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 6: Hopkins being back compared to when he's been out, it 167 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 6: was his best EPA game by far. And with Hopkins 168 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 6: they've been a top five offense historically over the last 169 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: year or so. And then you have a Viking, a 170 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 6: five to one biking team, which at first glance, like 171 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 6: I think to myself, like this is the least talked 172 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 6: about five to one team like I've ever heard of, 173 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 6: where you'll you even look at like O'Connell's coach of 174 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 6: the year odds, I think he's like fourteen to one 175 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 6: and they're five and one, which is crazy to me. 176 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 6: But when you look at who they faced and they're 177 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 6: only two and four against the spread. They've played a 178 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 6: Bears team who we know who they are, a Saints 179 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 6: team who had Andy Dalton, Dolphins team who had Skylar 180 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 6: Thompson and Teddy Bridgewater, Lion's team without DeAndre Swift, and 181 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 6: the Lions, and the Lions were realizing are a lot 182 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 6: worse than we thought they were. And then you have 183 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 6: a Packers team who that win in Week one is 184 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 6: becoming a lot. 185 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: Less impressive as the weeks go by. 186 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 6: The Cardinals defense is still underrated, it is catching its stride. 187 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 6: And then you just have a road dog that is 188 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 6: three and a half points, which has been money this year. 189 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 6: They're road dogs of three and a half or more 190 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 6: twenty seven and fourteen, and then from three to six 191 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 6: and a half, ten of those fifteen games they've won 192 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 6: out right for those who love trends, So really this 193 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 6: is just taking a Cardinals team who when you want 194 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 6: to back them, you want to back them as an 195 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 6: underdog hoping for a back door by Kyler or whatever 196 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 6: it is. 197 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: You just you want to avoid them one than the favorite. 198 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 6: You just underdogs with the Cardinals are the play Vikings 199 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 6: are overrated. 200 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: I'll take the Cardinals plus three and a half. 201 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys know I love my Cliff Kingsbury underdog 202 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 5: stats and you know you always play the Kingsbury matchups. 203 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 5: Cliff as an underdog twenty one nine and two against 204 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 5: the spread seventy percent. Cliff as a road underdog fifteen 205 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 5: three and two against the spread has a one and 206 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 5: covered eight straight. I, as a Vikings fan, am very 207 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: afraid of the spot for the team. 208 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: I love it and to credit our own see Cliff Kingsbury, 209 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: we are fair to you on this podcast sometimes. Kyler 210 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: Murray since twenty nineteen has the second best ATS record 211 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: as an underdog nineteen ten and two. Only Jimmy g 212 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: has a better record than him as a dog a quarterback. 213 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: As a dog. 214 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, plus an extra rest. I know Kyler, Kyler 215 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: actually has a bad record off of rest, but I 216 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: think altogether we're giving the rest edge to Cliff because 217 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 4: he could he can use all the time possible to 218 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: get prepped. Joe what do you have for Pick one 219 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 4: Week eight best bets? 220 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: Sure? 221 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at the AFC South and looking at 222 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: the Titans Texans matchup, and my initial instinct was thinking, okay, 223 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: Titan should rule in this game. 224 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: But looking more at the. 225 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: Total here, I really like over forty and a half, 226 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: mainly because both teams rank and the bottom half of 227 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: score defense at this point of the season. But last season, 228 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: this is a lot of matchup data for me that 229 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: I that I like in this spot because last season, 230 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: in two games with Davis Mills as the quarterback Texans offense, 231 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: they brought it twenty two points in a win twenty 232 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: five points on a loss. And one of the key 233 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: things about those two games, Derek Henry didn't play in 234 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: either of those games, so sorely missed from a scoring 235 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: standpoint for the Titans. Just for reference, like in the 236 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: four games previous against the Texans, he scored seven touchdowns 237 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: with over six hundred rushing yards, so I think they 238 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: missed him just a little bit. Now, this next point 239 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: reason why I like the over has to do with 240 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: Davis Mills. It kind of brought this up on the 241 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Best on the Recap podcast that we did talking about 242 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: how Davis Mills might actually be showing a little bit 243 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: of something here, and it's specifically when he plays indoors 244 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: versus outdoors. When he plays indoors, he's played nine games 245 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: indoors seventy percent completions, fifteen passing touchdowns, three interceptions respectful, 246 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: outdoors fifty nine percent completion percentage, six touchdow, eleven interceptions. 247 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: So there's just a polar opposite of what he looks 248 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: like when he's playing inside without the elements as opposed 249 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: to when he's playing outdoors. And in those nine out 250 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: indoor games, the average combined score in the final was 251 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: forty eight point two in the eight outdoor games twenty 252 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: nine point eight. Big difference here in this spot, I 253 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: think the totals might have I think we're seeing a 254 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: little bit of an overcorrection here at forty and a half. 255 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to take the over in this spot. 256 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: Well, why is this spread only two and a half points? 257 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: Like I was, go ahead, there's some iffings about Tannehill's. 258 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 5: Yeah me, he isn't a locking boot. So yeah, this 259 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 5: one dropped I think from four and a half down 260 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 5: to two and a half. It is very fishy though, 261 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: because it's the Texans look awful, the Titans look good. 262 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 5: Four games, four wins in a row. It feels like 263 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 5: it's just trying to sucker you in. I want the 264 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: Texans here, but I've been awaiting. I want to see 265 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: that line move back across the threat before I'm going 266 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 5: to jump in. 267 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: And that's why I. 268 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: Didn't end up playing it, because I was like, I 269 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: don't like these lines at all. Even though I feel 270 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: like the Texans can win out right, I'd rather just 271 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: allow them just to put up twenty five points. 272 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this. 273 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 5: If you like the Texans here, and if you think 274 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 5: this division is awful, we've been dumping on it all year. 275 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: I'll just throw it out. 276 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 5: Houston Texans are sixty six to one to win the division, 277 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 5: just saying. 278 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 6: Oh boy, I'm sa Davis Mills is a totally different 279 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 6: quarterback at home. But the Texans played well for seventy 280 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 6: five percent of the game on Sunday against the Raiders. 281 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 6: It's just that twenty five percent didn't go so well. 282 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: So well, folks, this is our eighth week doing this 283 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 4: Best Bets episode. It's not the first time today, but 284 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 4: the second time today. I have mentioned something doesn't look right, 285 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: and when these three agree with me, that is so 286 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: satisfying as a host because I don't give picks on 287 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 4: the show. I come to these guys. They're the experts. 288 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 4: I just run the ship. But it's very gratifying to 289 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 4: be like, oh, ok see, I kind of have a 290 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: clue what I'm talking about a little bit. But it's 291 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: been learning from you folks, so that's good. I get 292 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 4: afraid sometimes, like what's up with this? And they're like, Brendan, 293 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: shut up, what are you talking about? That hasn't happened yet. 294 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: That's good, Brandon, back to you, what's your second pick? 295 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 5: All right, I'm going to go to Monday night and 296 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 5: we're gonna go to Ohio. We got Cincinnati and Cleveland 297 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 5: facing off, and I will take the Bengals minus three 298 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 5: and a half on the road. I gotta admit I'm 299 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 5: a little annoyed here. I like the Dolphins. I like 300 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 5: the Bengals. I took them out minus three Tuesday. I've 301 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: got them in the app so make sure you're following there. 302 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 5: You get the line better. We're at three and a 303 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 5: half now, but I still like it. The Bengals. We 304 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 5: talked about this on Sunday Night for Monday Show. They 305 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: just play their best game this season. And I gotta 306 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 5: hand it to Luke. We went ahead to head on 307 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 5: this one last week I Atlanta, he hit Cincinnati. It 308 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 5: was over before I even get the television turned on. Like, 309 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 5: Cincinnati came out passing and obliterated the Falcons, and the 310 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 5: Falcons are really similar to the Browns, the team that 311 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 5: clear the Cincinnati is playing now. This is a team 312 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: that is a strong run team. We talked about their 313 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 5: run attack last week and DJ Reader being out and yeah, 314 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: they're gonna run the ball a little bit, but competent 315 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 5: at best for passing. No defense to speak of. And 316 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: what we just see with Cincinnati, they came out passing 317 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 5: and they lit up the defense. They started scoring in Cleveland, 318 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 5: like Atlanta, is not a team that can play catch 319 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 5: up or try to go head to head with Joe 320 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: Burrow and Jamar Chase and want to shoot out. So 321 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 5: that's what I see here. The Bengals started zero and two. 322 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 5: It kind of threw us off the scent oh super 323 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 5: Bowl loser curse. We were ready with it. But since then, 324 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: number two DVOA team in the entire NFL they're number 325 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 5: two in offensive EPA. They're going shotgun, they're going pass heavy. 326 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 5: This is the thing we wanted and expected from them. 327 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: It just took a minute. I be honest, I don't 328 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 5: really trust that Zach Taylor is not going to just 329 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 5: run the ball the first four hundred plays again the 330 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 5: next time we do it. 331 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: But I like the matchup. 332 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: I like Cincinnati's offense, Browns defense thirtieth and EPA per 333 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 5: play last month dead last DVA at home and then 334 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 5: of course tried through Kevin Stefanski three and eleven in 335 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 5: the division against the spread. That's always a good stat 336 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: to roll out there. So it's a good spot here. 337 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 5: You know, we've been talking about the three and a 338 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 5: half and bigger underdogs. Historically, Monday night road favorites of 339 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: three and a half to seven points are actually fifty 340 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 5: eight percent covering. So on Monday Night where we know 341 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 5: to give the home team at extra credit, if the 342 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 5: book is still making you such a big favorite here, 343 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 5: usually that's kind of telling you who you should take. 344 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: So I'll take the Bengals. 345 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: I think the fact that this is just about a 346 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: field goal. We have the Ravens to think too. Like 347 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 4: the Browns hanging around in that game last week allowed 348 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 4: for the final score to look a little better than 349 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 4: it probably would have finished if the Ravens handled their 350 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: business as we found out, they have not done that 351 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: late in ball games, so I think that helped the 352 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: Browns hang around and makes it look a little deceiving. Also, 353 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: Bengals thirteen and two against the spread in the last 354 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: fifteen games, and they've covered five straight. So that's courtesy 355 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: of Evan Abrams at Action. 356 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 6: You got something Luke the dish like, the more the 357 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 6: Browns lose and the ratings drop, it's going to be 358 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 6: total chaos on whether it's value or not. When DeShawn 359 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 6: comes back and which we're getting kind of close. I mean, 360 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: I think we're like four weeks out. 361 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's. 362 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: It's not Persett's fault, I don't think. 363 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 4: But but he limits them, right, Jill's got. 364 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: Thought you had thought Jill exactly. 365 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't necessarily say it's his fault every time, 366 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: but I would definitely say he has contributed to some 367 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: of that demise, especially in the latter parts of the 368 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: game where you put it on his shoulders to come 369 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: down and drive and to put them into field goal range, 370 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: and we've seen it twice this season where he's thrown 371 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: basically backbreaking, game ending interceptions. And not to say that 372 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: it's all his fault or that the whole thing just 373 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: led to him doing that, but I'm not sure if 374 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson would maybe do that. And again, I feel 375 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: like I'm with Luke in the sense that I don't 376 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: really know how we're going to price the Browns with 377 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. 378 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: Coming back and how he's going to fit into that offense. 379 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 4: Okay, well, you got some time to process that. 380 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: We'll see. 381 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 4: If the Browns hang around, right, I mean, that's really 382 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: the key to this game. If they hang around and cover, 383 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 4: then that's a pretty that's pretty good when you consider 384 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 4: it's a good against a Bengals team that has turned 385 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: it around, to say the least since the first couple 386 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 4: of weeks of the season. Luke, what is your second 387 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 4: best bet for Week eight? 388 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 6: So my second one to give you the Panthers plus 389 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 6: four going to Atlanta, which this line was six and 390 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 6: a half on Monday, and it got destroyed early in 391 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 6: the week and has slowly crept down, where right before 392 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 6: we went on the show, it was four and a 393 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 6: half and now it's four, which I would say four 394 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 6: is probably the lowest I would go. I really like 395 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 6: just purely based off of like line value, like anything 396 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 6: lower than four long term that just isn't really gonna work. 397 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: But last week we faded the Falcons. 398 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 6: Purely really based off of this being like, well you did, sorry. 399 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 2: I did this being just. 400 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 6: Cube shot, so that this being we faded them based 401 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 6: off of the market expectation of the Falcons like being 402 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 6: at its peak, where like they got blown out, so 403 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 6: it did come down a little bit, I guess you 404 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 6: could say, where at the same time, this is gonna 405 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 6: be the first time the Falcons are favored all year. 406 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 6: They've been an underdog in every game up until today, 407 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 6: or excuse me, someday going against a Panthers team who 408 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 6: looked a lot better beating like blowing the Buccaneers out. 409 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 6: And really this isn't like a bet on the Panthers 410 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 6: based off of that Buccaneers game. It's really just again 411 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 6: a fade of the Falcon secondary that is now the 412 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 6: worst in the league. Right And I'm not saying the 413 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 6: Panthers are going to do what the Bengals did, but 414 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 6: the Falcons are going to be without their top three corners, 415 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 6: they're starting safety, and then they're dead last and pressure 416 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 6: rate in the league. 417 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: So if you want to stop like, you. 418 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 6: Can put anyone at quarterback in the NFL and I 419 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: would probably have expectations of them playing above their head 420 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 6: and then maybe fade them the week after. But if 421 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 6: the Falcons want to run it, if there is a 422 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 6: thanks to the Panthers, it is their defense. They are 423 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 6: top five in the league against the run, and the 424 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 6: Falcons are refusing to adjust how they're playing. They are 425 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 6: if they're losing. They were losing to the Bancals by 426 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 6: a boatload and they still were running it at an 427 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 6: above average expectation, which was crazy to me. And if 428 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 6: they're just going to continue to test this Panthers defense 429 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 6: against the run, they're going to probably lose. So I'm 430 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 6: just going to take a secondary that is awful against 431 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 6: a Panthers defense that is great and put my trust 432 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 6: in the Panthers offense playing above their head. 433 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: Wow, I give you credit. You sold me based on 434 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: those talking points. Now you realize too, Hubbard didn't practice Thursday. 435 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: Does that alarm you or do you not care? 436 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: Running back still matter. 437 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 4: Probably Yeah, you're probably right, I suppose, But okay, fair enough, 438 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 4: you guys, all right, fair enough? Anyone have anything to 439 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 4: respond to? Well, Brandon Anderson, I should ask you because 440 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 4: you were a look aheadline earlier than this week. Was 441 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 4: you were on Carolina. No, you're on Atlanta minus six 442 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: and a half. Yes, you're on the other side. And 443 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: at six and a half. 444 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 5: I was, and I was on it, on the look 445 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 5: ahead and on the hot red. So we doubled down, 446 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: and the line moved heavily against us, against me. 447 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: I'll take the credit. It's me. 448 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 5: I'm on Atlanta Island too. I'm out here with the birds. Yeah, 449 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 5: sometimes the line moves against you and you have to 450 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 5: pay attention to it because the lines are telling you things. 451 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 5: And I think you know Luke mentioned the cluster injuries 452 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 5: at cornerback. It does look like maybe a couple of 453 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 5: those guys are trending upward. So I want to see 454 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 5: you once we get closer to the weekend, we might 455 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 5: get one or two of those names back out there. 456 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: PJ. 457 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 5: Walker is not Joe Burrow. I still feel pretty okay 458 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 5: with my Atlanta position. I'm not going to add to 459 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 5: it because I'm already in on the Falcons here, But 460 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 5: to me, this is I'm on the other side. This 461 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 5: is a bilo cell high spot. We're getting Atlanta off 462 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 5: of their worst performance this season. We're getting Carolina off 463 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 5: their best and really only good performance of the season 464 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 5: so far. Two weeks ago go, Atlanta ran all over 465 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 5: the San Francisco forty nine ers defense and scored plenty 466 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 5: of points and did just finding against them. I think 467 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 5: it's just a spot where it got away and this 468 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 5: is not a team that's built to play and it 469 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 5: got away game. But I'm not really worried about the 470 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 5: Panthers getting away here, So I think it just kind 471 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 5: of stays according to script and stays under a touchdown, 472 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 5: certainly at four. 473 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: Like Luke said, the line, the line is kind. 474 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 5: Of right about where that ought to be, perhaps getting 475 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: sharp here with those injuries. So yeah, yeah, I don't 476 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 5: love the Falcons. I'm I'm in like with the Falcons here, 477 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: but watching those injuries, I still think it's a spot 478 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: that I feel okay about. 479 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, and the like the bilo is so high like 480 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 6: that is like my concern here, especially with how much 481 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 6: it's moved and taking four four and a half instead 482 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 6: of the six and a half. But the fact, like 483 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 6: the biggest thing to me is how bad the secondary 484 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 6: has been, where hey, We're and Terrell are definitely out, 485 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 6: which are their top two corners by far and are great, 486 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 6: like yeah, pro Bowl corner, but they just can't get 487 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 6: any pressure. Like where if you have a poor secondary, 488 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 6: bringing pressure is going to be the thing that saves you, 489 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 6: and they just can't where like that's how you take 490 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 6: advantage of the worst secondary in the. 491 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: League is. 492 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 6: By just standing there with no one in your face. 493 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 6: But yeah, I totally agree that it is a bile 494 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 6: of so high and that's the one thing that pains me. 495 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 6: But it's just yeah, PJ. Walker, Joe Burrow the second coming. 496 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: Well, when you look at when you look at the 497 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 4: Falcons offense, they average twenty two points per game. The 498 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: Panthers and this is from Evans Evan Abrams again of action. 499 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: Panthers are one and twenty eight straight up, five and 500 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 4: twenty four against the spread when their opponent scores seventeen 501 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: or more since the twenty twenty season. 502 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: And I mean the PJ. 503 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 6: Walker against the Rams where that was just painful where 504 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 6: they let him like air it out against the Bucks, 505 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 6: you know, worked out, so yeah, I mean he. 506 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 5: Had a negative He had a negative aid out in 507 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 5: that game. That's what I'm gonna say is we don't 508 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: have to worry about the cornerbacks if he's only throwing 509 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 5: under routes the entire game. We're looking at linebacker health 510 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: at that point, so we'll see the PJ still has 511 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 5: to be some level of competency. So I guess we 512 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 5: have to see how that holds up this week XFL. 513 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 5: You know, he got the job done there, so maybe 514 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: two in a row. 515 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 6: It definitely feels like if Carolina covers, they win, which 516 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 6: like if you're betting an underdog at these numbers, like 517 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 6: you have to have a firm belief that they can 518 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 6: win the game. Where it does feel like one of 519 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 6: those like if Carolina covers, they win, If Atlanta covers, 520 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 6: they blow the brakes off them. 521 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 4: Okay, let's go to Jill Gallant his second pick. 522 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: Okay, well, we're gonna move over to a maybe a 523 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: matchup where it has a little bit more of a 524 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: sexier teams here, not Panthers Falcons, but uh yeah, we're 525 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: gonna look at the Niners Rams game, and I'm gonna 526 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: keep going with the trend, I'm gonna go with Niners 527 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: minus one and a half. So seven regular season losses 528 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: in a row to the Niners. Now, the Rams, they 529 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: did win last year's NFC Title game, but that was 530 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: because Jimmy g through last minute draw interception to steal 531 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: the game. That was pretty much what I know. He's 532 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: due for one every game. So but the reason why 533 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring that up is because this is 534 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: more of a pick against the Rams than endorsing the Niners. 535 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: But because the Rams offense, even though we could talk 536 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: about Sean McVay Tren's coming off a buye, but they're 537 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: just not what we're used to seeing. 538 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: From this Rams offense this season. 539 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: Outside of Cooper Cup, the Rams have yet to establish 540 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: a reliable second receiving option. And when you look at 541 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: the NFC Title game of how they beat them in 542 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: that game, Cooper Cup obviously had two touchdowns over one 543 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards, but Odell Beckham was also very 544 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: prominent in that game. He had one hundred and twenty 545 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: receiving yards in that game. They have not been able 546 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: to establish that second option last comparatively to last year, 547 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson he just ain't it yet. He did catch 548 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: a touchdown in his last game, but and just he 549 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: has not been able to get that separation, you know, 550 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: on third down maybe to be able to help out 551 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and the Niners just really outmatch the Rams 552 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: on a lot of key positions, Like I mean, they've 553 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: got an all pro left tackle, tight end, wide receiver, 554 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: and now we're running back as well. And really, if 555 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: you're fading the Niners on this spot, the only reason 556 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: you are is because of the lack of belief in 557 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, because you know he is gonna throw one interception, 558 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: just whether or not it's going to be the pivotal interception. 559 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: And speaking of interceptions, if win, eventually Matt Stafford's interception 560 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: prop does come out, and it's probably gonna be around 561 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: the minus one twenty minus one twenty five range. I 562 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: legitimately am going to take out a loan and bet 563 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: on this because he has thrown an interception in nine 564 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: of his last ten home games, that includes the playoffs, 565 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: and in every game against the Niners as a Ram. 566 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: So for me, right now, I'm looking at this matchup 567 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's not about if it's just win win, 568 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: is it gonna happen. 569 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 3: So if you see at a. 570 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: Minus one twenty or better, I think you need to 571 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: hammer it. I think by the time we see it 572 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: at kickoff, it's probably gonna be minus one twenty five, 573 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: minus one thirty. It did end up closing at minus 574 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: one fifteen when he played in San Francisco earlier in 575 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: the season. 576 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: So I'm glad you brought this up. The trend of 577 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 4: McVeigh off of by. He's only had this situation pop 578 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 4: up once in terms of facing a divisional opponent off 579 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: of bye. That was in twenty twenty against the Seahawks. 580 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: It was a three point spread. His squad beat the 581 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks twenty three to sixteen Jimmy Garoppolo seven and 582 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: one straight up and against the spread against the Rams 583 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 4: it was a two point spread. Right a couple of 584 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 4: weeks ago Monday night, that was the number in San Francisco. 585 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: Role Deebo had a big game, but the Rams were 586 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 4: dogs on the road and they are dogs again at home. 587 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 4: So and Jill said that NFC Title game from last 588 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 4: year is the only time they really handled their business 589 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: against this team. Let's go to Brandon Anderson for his 590 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 4: third best bet. 591 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna chime me in on that one. 592 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 5: And this is a really fascinating game because one of 593 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 5: these teams in real trouble after they lose this one. 594 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 5: The Niners either dropped to three and five and that 595 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 5: is not the spot they're expecting to be, or the 596 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: Rams go to three and four and swept by the 597 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 5: team that they're trying to get the division against. 598 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: So it's a big one and I'm going to thread 599 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: the needle a. 600 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 5: Little bit here. I'll get to the pick in a second. 601 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 5: But Jill, you talked about some of the things. What 602 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 5: are the Rams looking for here? Well, I think there 603 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 5: are a couple other things. First, it does look like 604 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 5: Van Jefferson maybe we'll be back this week. He's starting 605 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 5: to practice a bit, and that is that receiving speed 606 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 5: threat that the team has needed, and so I think 607 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 5: that that could open up the offense a bit. And 608 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 5: the other thing is the Rams are coming out of 609 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: the bye week, and so I'm intrigued to see what 610 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 5: does it look like when Sean McVay had a chance 611 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: to say, Okay, this offense sucks. It is awful and 612 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: it's not what we've been doing. We got a speed 613 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 5: guy back. Now we've had some time to plan a 614 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: few things. What can we do? And the thing I've 615 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 5: noticed about the Rams this year is that their offense 616 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: is way better in the first quarter. In the third quarter, 617 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 5: we said the opposite with Miami speed wore you down. 618 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 5: With the Rams, it's when Sean McVay can script it, 619 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 5: We're going to be fine. We can move the ball 620 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 5: a lip and score. But then I'm when I just 621 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 5: kind of erodes into okay, but now just talent and 622 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: oh no, the Rams aren't it anymore. So I'm gonna 623 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 5: thread the needle here. I like the Rams early home 624 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 5: underdogs in the first half coming out of the buy 625 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 5: are forty five twenty in one against the spread, so 626 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: sixty two percent. I like the Rams to hang around 627 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 5: win in the first half, and I think this stays close. 628 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: The line is relatively letting. It's forty two and a 629 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 5: half and dropping. Both defenses are pretty good here, better 630 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 5: than both offenses. The offensive line for the Rams especially 631 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 5: is struggling. The Niners have a lot of injuries on 632 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 5: both sides of the ball, so that defense is not 633 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 5: quite what it want once was. Cale yustcheck is out 634 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 5: on the offense. So I do like the Shanahan trend 635 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 5: nine and three ats against McVay has covered six in 636 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 5: a row. I do think the Niners over sixty minutes 637 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 5: come through. So here's where I I'm going to go 638 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 5: in the first half. I like the Rams to win. 639 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 5: If you look even at the Shanahan McVeagh thing in 640 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 5: games combined, the Rams actually are outscoring the Niners one 641 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: sixty seven to one fifty seven in the first half alone. 642 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 5: But I'll take the Rams to win the first half, 643 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: but the Niners to win the game. You can play 644 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 5: that as a double at FanDuel. It's plus seven to fifty. 645 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 5: So I'm going for I'm going for the whole thing here. 646 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 5: I didn't find a number I loved, so I'm just 647 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 5: going to try to take a swing here. Play a 648 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 5: Rams first half Niners full time if you want, if 649 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 5: you like the under in there as well and really 650 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 5: want to go big, plus sixteen to twenty six if 651 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 5: you add the under in there as well. But yeah, 652 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 5: that the Rams first half Niners full time. That is 653 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 5: a that that one is already cued up for you infanduel. 654 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 5: So if you just look under the double plus seven 655 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 5: fifty and let's see if we can try to thread 656 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 5: the needle here. 657 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 4: Okay, juicy. Forty two and a half points, by the way, 658 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: is the total for this game when they met earlier 659 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 4: in the year October third, so the beginning of the 660 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: both niners one twenty four to nine. So it's kind 661 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: of a bummer real quick. Thankfully we'll get to Seattle 662 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 4: Island later on in the program. But thankfully Seattle is 663 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 4: hanging around. So was Arizona because I thought they're already 664 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: gonna play twice now this early in the season San 665 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: fran and La. But it turns out we might have 666 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 4: a pretty good division race despite these two teams playing 667 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: each other twice this early on, Luke, what is your 668 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 4: final best bet? 669 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 6: So my final one is going to be the Patriots 670 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 6: minus two two and a half at the Jets. I 671 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 6: know this is a short favorite on a division in 672 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 6: a divisional game, which normally, in principle is one you 673 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 6: want to avoid, but this is a five and two 674 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 6: Jets team that is just a full fade for me 675 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 6: at the current moment, where four the five wins have 676 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 6: been against backup quarterbacks. Their one quality win quote unquote 677 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 6: was against the Packers, which, like I said, for the Cardinals, 678 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 6: as the weeks go by, the Packers are looking worse 679 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 6: and worse and victories against them are becoming less and 680 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 6: less impressive. 681 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: This is only the second. 682 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 6: Team ever to have a winning record and be an 683 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 6: underdog in every single game come Week six, which is 684 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 6: just playing above expectation. Now they got Bryce Hall out, 685 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 6: who I know he said running backs don't matter, but 686 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 6: he is one that did. Because if you are going 687 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 6: to put this this in Zach Wilson's hands against the 688 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 6: Bill Belichick defense and make him beat you, when I 689 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 6: really James Robinson isn't going to beat me. Michael Carter 690 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 6: not too worried about either, Like if I just have 691 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 6: no belief in Zach Wilson being able to beat me, 692 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 6: where like the Justice have had every break, and you're 693 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 6: getting a Patriots team with Mac mack off of an 694 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 6: embarrassing loss on National TV, where the Patriots are twenty 695 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 6: five and nine against the spread, coming off of a 696 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 6: double digit loss six and three without Tom Ready. Because 697 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 6: I know every Patriots trend has Tom Brady in them, 698 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 6: but it's just it's just a bile in the pass 699 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 6: in a total cell high on the Jets. Where the 700 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 6: Jets have had Brees Hall being out, Elijah Tucker being out, 701 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 6: who has been great. 702 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: I think they're on their fourth right tackle. It's just 703 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: I passed minus two and a half. 704 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. The last thing I want to say is Mac 705 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 6: Jones one hundred percent over Zappy, Like let him burn 706 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 6: it down, like first round pick. Let Mac burn it 707 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 6: down and figure it out where Zappi had two drives 708 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 6: last week that were great. He threw one up where 709 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 6: DeVante made a great catch and then he had a 710 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 6: wide open Jacoby Myers, which my first thought is why 711 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 6: weren't these they calling these plays for Mac? 712 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: Like why is Zappy getting this? 713 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 6: So Mac is an upgrade to me, which makes it 714 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 6: even better where the Jets almost got another backup quarterback. 715 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 4: But I think your bone to pick is with the 716 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,239 Speaker 4: Patriots staff, not us. I mean, we're listening to you. 717 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: Don't get us wrong, but yeah, we hear you, we 718 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 4: see you, Luke Swayin. 719 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 6: It's our defensive coordinator calling offensive plays that's the problem. 720 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 4: And great job mentioning the record without Brady, because you 721 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 4: know that's the first thing people would have thought, Well, 722 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 4: what's the record with Brad. 723 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 2: So that was good. 724 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 4: You came ready to go with that. 725 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 6: So it's still relative because coaching, but not as relative 726 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 6: because of Brady. 727 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Breece Hall, Elijah Verra Tucker Tuck. 728 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: Wow, that's the point. 729 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 4: An accent just slipped Elijah Barrett Tucker both out for 730 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 4: the season. I don't think James Robinson's going to make 731 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: up for that all in one week for the Jets. Jill, 732 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 4: take us home your final best bet. 733 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm with Luke Patriots minus two and a half versus 734 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: the Jets. I didn't know we were doing the same pick, 735 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: but we have a lot of the same points. I 736 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: find there are just a little bit more things too 737 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: that we could look at. Even just last year, just 738 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: the last two matchups, Patriots won by nineteen and thirty nine. 739 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: You know, so facing some of these quarterbacks that they've faced, 740 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: like Brett Rippon, Teddy Bridgewater, Kenny Pickett, all those lines 741 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: flipped to the Jets. But the lines were tracking that 742 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: Denver was supposed to be favored in that game, Miami 743 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: was supposed to be favored in that game. The Steelers 744 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: were favored, and then they tossed Rubisky at halftime and 745 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: Pickett just became picket in that second half. But you know, 746 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you can look at the trends and 747 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: even though they do include Brady and Belichick, you know, 748 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: twelve straight wins against the team dating back to twenty fifteen, 749 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: nine of those by double digits. But I think last 750 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: year's results are a little bit more relevant. But Zach Wilson, 751 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: like you said, VR, like, he's not beating the Patriots. 752 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: He's throwing one touchdown pass and four starts like and 753 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: you know they lost Breese Hall. Michael Carter. I'm not 754 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: going to go that far where I'm just going to 755 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: completely slammer the guy, because I do think he's a 756 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: good running back and he's fun to bet on from 757 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown score perspective. But that's the Patriots specialties, especially 758 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: as they run the ball and the Jets are bottom 759 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: three and touchdowns allowed by running backs. That pretty much 760 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: sets up a perfect matchup for Damien Harris or Mandre 761 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: just to basically over this team. So out of minus 762 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 1: two and a half line, I feel like we're getting 763 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of a gift here because of that 764 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: Monday night football loss to the Bears. 765 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 4: Two things on the line in this game. If the 766 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: Jets win, the Jets get there and cover, they will 767 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 4: they will get to their win total of six, they 768 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 4: will surpass five and a half and get to an 769 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 4: over on their win total, and they will beat the 770 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: Patriots for the first time in seven years. And they've 771 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 4: lost to the Pats twelve times in a row. 772 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 5: So now one more number to chime in here, because 773 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 5: I like the Patriots too. This is the spot you 774 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 5: want Bill Belichick after he's pissed off after. 775 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 3: That Monday night game. 776 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 5: If you look back at the history and I don't 777 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 5: have the No Brady numbers here, but just Belichick after 778 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 5: failing to cover by twenty one or more, as you 779 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 5: might guess, does not happen a lot. But in our system, 780 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 5: eleven and one against the spread, covering by twelve points 781 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 5: a game the following week twelve and hours straight up. 782 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 3: So you want pissed off Bill Belichick out here. This 783 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: is a spot for him. 784 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 4: Before we wrap up the show, let's take a very 785 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 4: quick look at next week's lines for NFL Week nine 786 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 4: to see if you like any numbers now before they 787 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: adjust after Sunday. That's what we call the look aheadline. 788 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 4: Brandon Anderson. What do you like for next week? 789 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 3: You know we gotta do it. 790 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 5: We can make it through the whole podcast without a 791 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 5: visit to Seattle Island. Let's go Seahawks plus three and 792 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 5: a half at Arizona. I am insulted by this line. 793 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: What are we doing? The Cardinals are three and a 794 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 5: half point favorites. Okay, let's start with Cliff Kingsbury stack 795 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 5: because we know I'm gonna get there eventually. You want 796 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 5: Kingsbury as an underdog on the road. You don't want 797 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 5: Kingsbury at home or as a favorite. Is nine and 798 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 5: fifteen ats as a favorite thirty eight percent, one in 799 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 5: four in the division as a favorite, be Carol as 800 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 5: an underdog sixty two percent in the division eighteen and 801 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 5: ten ats Gino Smith as an underdog. You want like 802 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 5: all the trends point to Seattle here, But how about 803 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 5: this trend? They played three weeks ago and Seattle just 804 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 5: destroyed this team, Arizona. Remember Seattle has no defense. Arizona's 805 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 5: offense scored three three points three in the entire game 806 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 5: against the terrible Seattle defense, which by the way, is 807 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 5: not terrible anymore. They're actually number one in DVA. The 808 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 5: last two weeks. Their top eight over the last month 809 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 5: in passing and rushing defense, not just offense. Actually, Seattle 810 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 5: is the only team in the NFL that is top 811 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 5: eight in rushing and passing offense and defense right now 812 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 5: over the last month. The Seahawks are good man and 813 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 5: the Cardinals are not. The pass defense is not good. 814 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 5: We're still treating these teams like Kyler Murray is the 815 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 5: top quarterback and Gino Smith is the one playing bad 816 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 5: football right now, it's the other way. Gino is top 817 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 5: three to five in every QB metric. Kyler is not 818 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 5: playing well. Last game, the Arizona turn it over five times. 819 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 5: There were sacked six times against this Seattle defense. So 820 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 5: what's changed? Why is the line still Arizona three and 821 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 5: a half. Well, we've talked about it. Hofkin is back 822 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 5: and that does change everything for them. It opens up 823 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 5: the offense a lot, and it is in Arizona, But 824 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 5: in Arizona hasn't helped a whole lot. Last nine times 825 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 5: these teams have played in Arizona, the Cardinals one once. 826 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 5: Now I know they're gonna say, yeah, but Russell Wilson, 827 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 5: Gino Smith is playing just as well as Russell Wilson 828 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 5: has right now anyway. 829 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 3: Not this Wilson, the good Wilson. 830 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 5: Gino Smith is playing as well as good to Wilson 831 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 5: and the Seattle offense. Arizona only two six and one 832 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 5: in those home Cardinals games. So I like Seattle here, 833 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 5: and especially I love the look ahead spot at three 834 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 5: and a half. You know this line is going to 835 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 5: get below that field goal because this weekend both these 836 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 5: teams play a one last team. But Seattle is at 837 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 5: home favored against the Giants, so we expect them to win. 838 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 5: Arizona is on the road in Minnesota. Now we talked 839 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 5: about it. It's a good spot for them, but if 840 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 5: you're a road underdog, you're expecting to lose that one. 841 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 5: Seattle expecting to win probably push this past the key number. 842 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 5: If we get there, Seattle island baby on playing it 843 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 5: and tell the books catch up. I think this might 844 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 5: be our last chance because I think the books are 845 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 5: finally the catch up. If Seattle does keep winning these games, 846 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 5: I still see a plus six hundred for Seattle division. 847 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 3: They are leading the division and are the division favorite 848 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 3: right now. 849 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 5: Plus six hundred is ludicrous and if you don't have it, 850 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 5: you should get it. I do have it at a 851 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 5: longer number, and I'm adding the position. So give me 852 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 5: the division that give me Seattle plus three and a 853 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 5: half in Arizona. I think we're going to get three 854 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 5: and a half points underdog for this team too many 855 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 5: more times. 856 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 4: I'm happy you brought up their matchups this week because 857 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 4: it makes a lot of sense from the Seattle standpoint 858 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 4: being at home. But that was gonna be my next question. 859 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 4: What if Minnesota handles their business, say they are for 860 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 4: real at five and one, there's a better chance of 861 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 4: that than Seattle falling on its face at home and 862 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 4: probably their biggest game post Russell Wilson contending legit Pete 863 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 4: Carroll feeling good about his team makes sense. But yeah, 864 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 4: we'll see. And even it looked like you said, even 865 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 4: if Arizona covers against Minnesota, they can still lose the 866 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 4: game and that could shift things for sure, and you 867 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 4: won't get as long as a number for Seattle visiting Arizona. 868 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 5: That's the place you want to visit, is Seattle Island. 869 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 5: That's where you want to visit, So come on out. 870 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 5: There's still plenty of room out here. I'm building the 871 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 5: condo I got, I got room for you. 872 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 4: All right, let's recap the picks for Week eight and 873 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 4: then we'll get ourselves out of here. Brandon Anderson is 874 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 4: on Miami minus three and a half against Detroit. He 875 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 4: likes the Bengals minus three and a half against the Browns, 876 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 4: and his final pick listen carefully. He likes the Rams 877 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 4: in the first half and then San Francisco full time, 878 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 4: so he's taking a different angle. And he also said, 879 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 4: if you want to get frisky, take the team total 880 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 4: under forty two and a half as well. You can 881 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 4: get that at you say, what was the odds again? 882 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 5: On the Enda plus plus seven and fifth p for 883 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 5: the halftime full time, and then it's around sixteen to 884 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 5: twenty five head in the total, okay. 885 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 4: Luke Swayin is on Arizona plus three and a half. 886 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 4: He likes Carolina plus four against Atlanta and the Patriots 887 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 4: minus two and a half against the Jets. Joe Galant 888 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 4: is on Tennessee and Houston. He likes the forty and 889 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 4: a half. Jill's also on the Niners minus one and 890 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 4: a half against the Rams, and he too is on 891 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 4: the Patriots minus two and a half. That'll do it. 892 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 4: On the Action Network, podcast for our NFL Week eight 893 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 4: best bets. Thanks to Brandon Anderson, Luke Swain, Joe Golan 894 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 4: for joining us. I'm your host, Brandon Glas Sheen. Best 895 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 4: of luck with your bets this weekend. Everybody. We will 896 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 4: see you again Monday morning for the recap show right 897 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 4: here on the Action Network podcast