Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.
Speaker 3: And this is Joe McCormick, and it's Star Wars Clone
Speaker 3: week here on Weird House Cinema. We just did a
Speaker 3: week of regular episodes concerning Star Wars on Tuesday and Thursday,
Speaker 3: and so we figured we would look into yet another
Speaker 3: ripoff of the George Lucas classic Star Wars. This will
Speaker 3: actually not even be the first Star Wars clone we're
Speaker 3: doing on Weird House Cinema because a few months back
Speaker 3: we watched Message from Space, which I absolutely adored. It was,
Speaker 3: you know, like many movies of the late seventies, a
Speaker 3: blatant ripoff of Star Wars, but it brought a lot
Speaker 3: of its own weirdness and texture. I remember it had
Speaker 3: some really beautiful, highly colorful costumes and great sets and stuff.
Speaker 3: Today we're looking at a dirtier, dustier, more drab attempt
Speaker 3: to rip off Star Wars of a more Italian persuasion.
Speaker 3: But this one's got a lot of pleasures of its own. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, but before we get into it, I do want
Speaker 2: to speak just a little bit more about the idea
Speaker 2: of the Star Wars ripoff, because there's kind of this,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost kind of like a wave effect
Speaker 2: through cinema after Star Wars comes out, because the nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy seven original film that is often known today as
Speaker 2: Star Wars a New Hope, you know, it really set
Speaker 2: the world on fire. It created this global phenomenon. But
Speaker 2: then it also it opened the door for various filmmakers
Speaker 2: to come in and in some cases, you know, just
Speaker 2: blatantly try and get in on the cash grab to
Speaker 2: get some of that Star Wars energy and some of
Speaker 2: that Star Wars money.
Speaker 3: Other times it.
Speaker 2: Just allowed projects that would not have come to light
Speaker 2: to actually take form, you know, like because the people
Speaker 2: with the money realized, Hey, look at this. People are
Speaker 2: lining up to see stuff that's fantastic, stuff that's got
Speaker 2: space in it. Hey, what do we have lined up
Speaker 2: that has space in it? And so I think sometimes
Speaker 2: you see this with other hits as well, Like you'll
Speaker 2: see projects that that maybe at some point in their
Speaker 2: development they weren't as Star Wars y, but maybe they
Speaker 2: got Star Wars up.
Speaker 3: Or you'll see a Star Wars.
Speaker 2: The project that you know, has a lot of knockoff
Speaker 2: elements in it, but then also some original ideas or
Speaker 2: maybe ideas at least inspired by other properties in there.
Speaker 2: So they're often really fun to look at because you
Speaker 2: never know exactly what you're gonna find once you really
Speaker 2: immerse yourself in it, once you sort of wage your
Speaker 2: way through the initial like seaweed of just of just
Speaker 2: you know, utter Star warseness, and get out into the
Speaker 2: perhaps the more original aspects of the picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a few different things you can look
Speaker 3: at here. I mean, one is, as you say, I
Speaker 3: think Star Wars helped sort of push the door wide
Speaker 3: or open for big budget mainstreams science fiction and fantasy.
Speaker 3: You know, the idea is, okay, plenty of people in
Speaker 3: the public are hungry for this sort of thing. People
Speaker 3: went and saw Star Wars twenty times in the theater.
Speaker 3: You know, we can make big budget sci fi and
Speaker 3: fantasy movies and they can be a huge hit. The
Speaker 3: other thing is, as you say, movies that are not
Speaker 3: really Star wars y in any sense, except you get
Speaker 3: the feeling somebody was like, hey, what if we Star
Speaker 3: warsed up this thing just a little bit. So one
Speaker 3: example that I think of that we'll have several connections
Speaker 3: to today's movie. Is the James Bond film Moonraker from
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine, starring Roger Moore, the driest and goobriest
Speaker 3: of James Bond's and starring several cast members of the
Speaker 3: movie we're looking at today, which is in many respects
Speaker 3: just a bad James Bond movie. Like it's very goofy.
Speaker 3: It's the James Bond movie where a pigeon does a
Speaker 3: double take. But also it has a space battle in
Speaker 3: the end of it. There are and you just really
Speaker 3: get the feelings. But he was like, hey, could we
Speaker 3: you know, could we like han solo this up just
Speaker 3: a bit. So you've got Michael Lonsdale playing the villain
Speaker 3: Hugo Drax, and Moonraker and his soldiers go out on
Speaker 3: a spacewalk where they're shooting lasers at these I think,
Speaker 3: I don't know US or British soldiers who were space
Speaker 3: soldiers shooting lasers. I mean, obviously no forces of the
Speaker 3: kind existed at this time, but but I think they
Speaker 3: just wanted to get in on some of that Lucas magic.
Speaker 3: And and this is what we ended up with.
Speaker 2: Moonraker is a Bond film that there was a time
Speaker 2: in my life where I thought I would have said
Speaker 2: it was the worst Bond film. I'm now at the
Speaker 2: point in my life where I can, without a shadow
Speaker 2: of a doubt say it is the best Bond film,
Speaker 2: and it will never be surpassed.
Speaker 3: It is one of the most rewatchable of Bond films
Speaker 3: because it is absolutely ludicrous and tonally all over the
Speaker 3: place in a way that most James Bond movies aren't.
Speaker 3: I mean the earlier James Bond movies, you know, they
Speaker 3: had a more kind of realistic, sardonic, cynical edge, a
Speaker 3: kind of mean sense of humor and all that. Moonraker.
Speaker 3: It's like got this ridiculous, hilarious subplot where Jaws, the
Speaker 3: assassin who kills people by biting their necks, falls in
Speaker 3: love with a woman with braces. But then on the
Speaker 3: other hand, it's got like really dark stuff in it,
Speaker 3: like the villain kills people by sicking dogs on them.
Speaker 3: Is brutal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, brutal dog scenes. Michael Lonsdale, who I
Speaker 2: love in that and everything. He would fit into this
Speaker 2: movie that we're going to discuss today, because Michael Lonsdale
Speaker 2: has that wonderful, like low energy performance style like he's in.
Speaker 2: He's been in many films over the years, but he's
Speaker 2: in the original film adaptation of the Name of the Rose,
Speaker 2: playing the abbot, and he's great in that. But he's
Speaker 2: so low energy. There are times where I can't quite
Speaker 2: understand what he's even saying. He's practically mumbling. But what
Speaker 2: a vision learned of his on accord. I don't know
Speaker 2: what you said, Michael Lonsdale, but I love it. I
Speaker 2: still love your energy.
Speaker 3: I think you will find mister.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, and it's like, what, I can't hear your
Speaker 2: villainous monologue because it's so you're hitting such a low
Speaker 2: energy level there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, But to come back to what you were
Speaker 3: saying earlier, speaking of low energy, we should get to
Speaker 3: this Star Wars ripoff that we're looking at today, because,
Speaker 3: of course, the other class of films is just movies
Speaker 3: that blatantly rip off Star Wars. They're not like taking
Speaker 3: a pre existing movie concept and trying to Star Wars
Speaker 3: it up a bit. They're instead taking elements from Star
Speaker 3: Wars and saying, Okay, if we were to directly rip
Speaker 3: off the Darth Vader suit, how could we write a
Speaker 3: movie around a character who wears that suit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's the caliber of film we're dealing
Speaker 2: with today. It is nineteen seventy nine's the Humanoid?
Speaker 3: The Humanoid?
Speaker 2: Yes, the basic elevator pitch here is in an attempt
Speaker 2: to overthrow the planet Metropolis, which is our planet. But
Speaker 2: in the future, the evil warlord Grawl turns to a
Speaker 2: doctor with a recipe for the perfect super soldier, which
Speaker 2: you're probably saying, that doesn't sound like Star Wars at all. Well,
Speaker 2: the basic plot, yeah, is not very Star Wars. And
Speaker 2: we'll get into what that means here in a bit.
Speaker 3: What's it some of that trailer audio?
Speaker 2: I'm the little option me only tend to see you.
Speaker 3: Shut up all right now.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much we really got out of
Speaker 2: that trailer audio because I think, given our choices, that
Speaker 2: was either mostly all music or that was in Italian.
Speaker 3: See what we were able to pull together. I think
Speaker 3: I found a trailer that had some English narration, but
Speaker 3: maybe it's not original. I don't know. We'll we'll work
Speaker 3: that out in post. It'll depend you you've already heard it.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, Ye, it's one.
Speaker 2: This is one of those films where it's it's I
Speaker 2: was having trouble finding the trailer, but what I would
Speaker 2: find on YouTube is just uploads of the entire film,
Speaker 2: uploads that have been on YouTube for you know, half
Speaker 2: a decade or so, or you know, approaching ten years.
Speaker 3: In some cases, they do not have their lawyers on
Speaker 3: the case of the Humanoid. Yeah. Now, as we get
Speaker 3: into the connections on this movie, there's something that you
Speaker 3: should know from the get go, which is that this
Speaker 3: movie has extensive Roger Moore era Bond overlap. It has
Speaker 3: no less than three major cast members who were in
Speaker 3: back to back Roger Moore James Bond movies. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of a fun exercise and looking
Speaker 2: at the like the Moonreaker casting especially.
Speaker 3: Okay, so who directed this?
Speaker 2: All right, so this was directed by Aldo Laddo. Credited
Speaker 2: I believe is George B. Lewis, which sometimes argued that
Speaker 2: that was because it kind of sounds like George Lucas.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but anyway, it's like.
Speaker 3: They were trying to do the trans Morpher's thing. What
Speaker 3: is like these asylum studios?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe, but anyway. A Alatto was born in
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty four. I will say this is we look
Speaker 2: at a lot of films, and certainly some older films too,
Speaker 2: where like everybody's dead or most of the people were dead.
Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised at how many folks are
Speaker 2: still kicking from this one. I don't know if they were,
Speaker 2: you know, getting some of that Iron Maiden Fountain of
Speaker 2: Youth's sci fi juice from the plot of this film,
Speaker 2: but a lot of folks are hanging in there that
Speaker 2: were involved in this anyway. Laddo was an Italian writer
Speaker 2: and director, perhaps best known, at least in some circles,
Speaker 2: for writing and directing short Night of Glass Dolls from
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one, horror movie that also featured Barber Bach
Speaker 2: who will get to in a bed?
Speaker 3: Who is in this?
Speaker 2: And he also did an assortment of thrillers for TV
Speaker 2: and cinema.
Speaker 3: I'm not really super familiar with this guy, but there's
Speaker 3: a guy we're coming up on that fans of weird
Speaker 3: House cinema will recognize. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So apparently Zog Castellari did some uncredited directing on this.
Speaker 2: Now he was born in nineteen thirty eight, still alive
Speaker 2: as of this recording, and he apparently did the opening
Speaker 2: assault sequence in this film. We've mentioned him on the
Speaker 2: show before because he directed nineteen eighty three's Warriors of
Speaker 2: the Wasteland, eighty two's nineteen ninety The Bronx Warriors, and
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty threes Escaped from the Bronx, all wonderful Italian
Speaker 2: post apocalyptic films. He also did nineteen eighty one's The
Speaker 2: Last Shark, starring.
Speaker 3: Vic Morrow, who was in Message from Space.
Speaker 2: Yeah, The Last Shark is a Jaws rip off essentially
Speaker 2: in which Vic Morrow plays, well, what's the character from Jaws,
Speaker 2: the old guy Quinn. Yeah, he'd be essentially played Quinn,
Speaker 2: and then he Castellaria also directed The Inglorious Bastards from
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3: So Castellari has been mentioned on this show before because
Speaker 3: we talked about him in the episode Hands of Steel,
Speaker 3: where I think there was an extensive overlap with his
Speaker 3: work there. I don't know, did he actually work on
Speaker 3: Hands of Steel or did it just have a lot
Speaker 3: of his regular actors, And.
Speaker 2: I think it was just the connection to Georgia Eastman
Speaker 2: and also the connection to the music of Goblin and Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I think that was the main thing. I
Speaker 2: don't know that we've actually covered an NZG costellary picture
Speaker 2: on Weird House, or at least not yet, but hopefully we'll.
Speaker 3: Get to one. L Ultimo squalo all right.
Speaker 2: There are various writers involved on this one, but I'm
Speaker 2: just going to mention in passing that Adriano Balzani was
Speaker 2: on here, who lived nineteen nineteen through two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: He was also one of the writers on nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: four's A Fistful of Dollars spaghetti western classic.
Speaker 3: Now there's a term I'd never come across before, but
Speaker 3: it makes sense because I think there were a number
Speaker 3: of Italian Star Wars clones in the late seventies, and
Speaker 3: that term was It was actually on a website that
Speaker 3: we were both looking at. The term is spaghetti star Wars.
Speaker 2: Ha Well, I missed that. I was looking at that website,
Speaker 2: but I missed that term. I think that would be
Speaker 2: be accurate spaghetti star Wars.
Speaker 3: I like it. Now, getting into the actual cast, we
Speaker 3: should introduce the real star of this film. You want
Speaker 3: somebody with just like unbeatable charisma, a screen presence that
Speaker 3: sucks you in and you're hanging on their every word,
Speaker 3: and so who'd they get. They got Richard Keel, who
Speaker 3: played Jaws in the James Bond movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this isn't just a case where we were
Speaker 2: most familiar with him, and so we're saying he's the star. No,
Speaker 2: they said he's the star. He had top billing, like
Speaker 2: he's the star of this picture.
Speaker 3: I mean he'd gotten top billing in something before. I
Speaker 3: think he got top billion ega.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, and that was years earlier. That was
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two. So yeah, Richard Keel who lived nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty nine through twenty fourteen. So he's a giant of
Speaker 2: a man. He had the medical condition acromegaly and thus
Speaker 2: attained the height of seven to two in his life,
Speaker 2: which in show business that's like being nine feet tall,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, you see people who are like six'
Speaker 2: eight and if you don't put their coworkers on apple,
Speaker 2: boxes then they're you, know they come off like. Giants
Speaker 2: but But keel was an extremely tall, man and he
Speaker 2: also had a very signature. Look you know that in
Speaker 2: part due to his condition that certainly played well with monster.
Speaker 2: Makeup THOUGH i think it's also fair to say that
Speaker 2: he was still a very handsome. Guy by most.
Speaker 3: Standards, YEAH i, say he especially looks good with the,
Speaker 3: beard which they give him in part of this, film
Speaker 3: but not the whole. Thing and the beard is like
Speaker 3: an on off switch that indicates in this movie whether
Speaker 3: he's in regular human mode or in humanoid.
Speaker 2: Mode, yeah so he gets to both in this which
Speaker 2: is kind of fun because a lot of times he
Speaker 2: was playing monsters and, heavies you, know and in this
Speaker 2: he does get to play the snarling. Monster but he
Speaker 2: also plays this, likable, big kind of goofy bearded, guy you.
Speaker 2: Know And i'm not saying that that's Where keel's acting strength,
Speaker 2: was but he's still it's kind of neat to watch.
Speaker 3: Him oh He's, Yeah i'd never seen him playing just
Speaker 3: like a regular guy, before but in the parts of
Speaker 3: this movie where he's just you, know he's just some space.
Speaker 3: Trucker he's just a regular dude out there in a.
Speaker 3: Spaceship he's quite. Likable actually he's. Not, again AS i was,
Speaker 3: JOKING i, mean he's not somebody who has natural like screen,
Speaker 3: charisma but he comes off his suite. Likable you, know
Speaker 3: you would be friends with this.
Speaker 2: Dude, yeah and we do have to against distress his
Speaker 2: importance in The bond movie series because he Played jaws
Speaker 2: in two, films not Only moonraker but Also The Spy
Speaker 2: Who Loved me from nineteen seventy, Seven so they brought him.
Speaker 2: Back you, know you see, that of course With bond
Speaker 2: himself and some Of bond's auxiliary, characters and you, know
Speaker 2: occasionally with the main, villain like A blowfield comes back
Speaker 2: over in.
Speaker 3: A low, field.
Speaker 2: The bald guy's Since i've watched the guy who is
Speaker 2: Sometimes Donald, pleasants but also many times sadly Not Donald.
Speaker 3: Pleasants sometimes He's Charles.
Speaker 2: Gray oh, okay, well when he Was Charles Charles gray
Speaker 2: was pretty. GOOD i, MEAN i pretend to have good
Speaker 2: actors play, him but Still pleasance was the was the.
Speaker 3: Best the weird thing, IS i feel like how MUCH
Speaker 3: i enjoy the actor Playing blowfeld is directly correlated to
Speaker 3: how silly the actor Playing blofeld. Is SO i REALLY
Speaker 3: i really like the silly. ONES i Like Donald, PLEASANCE
Speaker 3: i Like Charles. GRAY i THINK i Like Telly. Savalis
Speaker 3: when When.
Speaker 2: Telly was a different type of a, villain BUT i liked.
Speaker 2: Him who plays him in the newer?
Speaker 3: Ones oh, well they Got Christoph waltz to Play, inspector
Speaker 3: which would have been great casting if the role had been. Written,
Speaker 3: well but that movie was just a snoozefest A. SPECTER
Speaker 3: i don't know if you saw. IT i have never seen. It,
Speaker 3: NO i found it incredibly, boring not very good at.
Speaker 3: All but but But christoph fold's great casting choice if
Speaker 3: you give him something interesting to.
Speaker 2: Do. YEAH i haven't seen a New bond film Since Casino.
Speaker 2: Royale OH i like that, One, yeah like. It mad's
Speaker 2: was great in.
Speaker 3: That. Yeah my advice is stick with the odd. Numbers
Speaker 3: Skip quantum Of, solace c Sky. Fall that one's. Good Skip. Specter,
Speaker 3: okay good to.
Speaker 2: Know of, course all of these, MOVIES i THINK i
Speaker 2: can just safely say they needed More. Jaws but at any,
Speaker 2: rate you, know jaws't hasn't been around in A bond
Speaker 2: film for a. WHILE i don't think they've quite decided
Speaker 2: to bring him, back though they've kind of echoed that
Speaker 2: sort of second in command HEAVY i think in some
Speaker 2: of the more recent ones as.
Speaker 3: Well who would be the New?
Speaker 2: JAWS i mean it's hard to. DO i, mean what
Speaker 2: do you certainly there are other big guys you could
Speaker 2: you could hire to be a new version Of. Jaws
Speaker 2: BUT i don't. Know the thing Is keel had that.
Speaker 2: MAGIC i, mean you, could you could get you, know
Speaker 2: various super big wrestlers to step in and play the.
Speaker 2: Role BUT i don't. Know keel was. Likable AND i
Speaker 2: think that's one of the things that shines through In,
Speaker 2: Moonraker like they clearly, realize let's bring this guy back
Speaker 2: and people like. Him and he looks you, know he's
Speaker 2: kind of a gentle he has this gentle giant. Vibe
Speaker 2: let's lean into. That let's have him fall in love
Speaker 2: with a girl in braces on a space.
Speaker 3: Ship. OH i, mean it's a classic evolution of a
Speaker 3: villain character across a multiple film arc because when he
Speaker 3: comes in In Spy Who Loved, me he's actually rather.
Speaker 3: MENACING i, mean he murders people in a way that
Speaker 3: is kind of. Creepy they're not playing him for laughs,
Speaker 3: Yet but as with the arc of Say Freddy, krueger
Speaker 3: he becomes more a source of comedy as the as
Speaker 3: the films go.
Speaker 2: On, yeah why didn't he get a spin? Off that's
Speaker 2: that's the thing that gets.
Speaker 3: Me oh my, God Agent, jaws he, goes he goes
Speaker 3: to work FOR i, six he becomes like double oh
Speaker 3: two or, whatever and, yeah they send him on missions
Speaker 3: where he always ends up biting the bad guy's.
Speaker 2: Neck, yeah maybe he could be double oh fourteen since
Speaker 2: he's twice as.
Speaker 3: TALL i don't, know very.
Speaker 2: Good so, Anyway keel was in many other things as.
Speaker 2: Well we already Mentioned IgA from sixty. Two he was
Speaker 2: the ALIEN i believe what is cannimate from the Classic
Speaker 2: Twilight zone episode To Serve, man WHICH.
Speaker 3: I know is one of your, Favorites. Joe.
Speaker 2: Oh. Yeah but he also did a ton OF tv,
Speaker 2: work like he was just popping up on, everything like
Speaker 2: hell pop up On Gilligan's. Island so anytime you needed
Speaker 2: a giant or a likable big, guy there's a chance
Speaker 2: That Richard keel would wander into the.
Speaker 3: SHOT i know he was cast in this, movie so
Speaker 3: they could have him turning into the humanoid and hulking.
Speaker 3: Out BUT i would have enjoyed having more of the
Speaker 3: movie with him in regular mode with his cute little robot,
Speaker 3: friend because in this movie he's got a robot dog
Speaker 3: that is. Adorable, yeah, YEAH i love that robot.
Speaker 2: Dog we'll talk about it a bit in a Bit
Speaker 2: in a second, here but let's move on to some
Speaker 2: of the other actors in this. Film the next one
Speaker 2: is also A bond. Connection it's the Actor Corene, clary
Speaker 2: who was born in nineteen fifty still alive as of this,
Speaker 2: recording plays the space character the sci fi Character Barbara.
Speaker 3: Gibson it's. GREAT i love how this movie has a
Speaker 3: scene where a character Named Lord grawl sends his forces
Speaker 3: to Kill Barbara. Gibson. Yeah it reminds me of When
Speaker 3: Darth vader took out his lightsaber to go assassinate The
Speaker 3: jedi Master Fred. Nelson.
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean this is not The lucas approach to naming.
Speaker 2: Characters this is not Even David cronenberg approach to naming.
Speaker 2: CHARACTERS i was, Thinking Barbara gibson sounds like the name
Speaker 2: that a child would give their imaginary friend if that
Speaker 2: imaginary friend were like a stereotypical. Adult but, Anyway cleary.
Speaker 2: Was she was In moonraker as well as the story
Speaker 2: OF o from nineteen seventy, five And You're The hunter
Speaker 2: from The future from nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3: Three Your hunter from The future is an all time
Speaker 3: great leather Diaper barbarian. Movie, yes, yeah and it will
Speaker 3: come up.
Speaker 2: Again it is connected in several ways to this.
Speaker 3: Picture it's one of the best ludicrous barbarian movies because
Speaker 3: it is simultaneously A conan ripoff and A Star wars.
Speaker 3: Ripoff so it stars the guy From Space, mutiny Reb,
Speaker 3: brown you, know a blast hard, cheese and he's wearing
Speaker 3: the leather diaper and running around like killing dinosaurs with a.
Speaker 3: Hammer but then at the end of the movie he
Speaker 3: has to Fight Darth. Vader all.
Speaker 2: Right the next Character Leonard, mann who Plays nick born
Speaker 2: nineteen forty, Seven american actor who was also in eighty
Speaker 2: Seven flowers in The attic in nineteen eighty One's Night,
Speaker 2: school in addition to a number Of italian.
Speaker 3: Productions he's gonna be Our han solo for this, movie
Speaker 3: but a really sort of, faded washed out. Solo, yeah,
Speaker 3: absolutely all.
Speaker 2: Right Our Darth vader in this picture Is Lord, graul
Speaker 2: played By Ivan rasimov who lived nineteen thirty eight through
Speaker 2: two thousand and, three An italian actor who played a
Speaker 2: lot of. Heavies he was In mario Bob those nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty five sci fi Classic planet of The. VAMPIRES i
Speaker 2: love that. Movie, yeah wonderful. Style that's one we might
Speaker 2: have to come back to on the. Show he was
Speaker 2: also In Sergio martino's nineteen seventy two Movie all The
Speaker 2: colors of The.
Speaker 3: Dark we've mentioned that one. Before that's A jello movie
Speaker 3: That i've. SEEN i recall thinking that one was kind of, interesting,
Speaker 3: though like pretty much All, jello it's, vile, TRASH i,
Speaker 3: think but IT'S i recall it being about like a
Speaker 3: woman who thinks she's being pursued by a coven Of
Speaker 3: satanists somewhere In. England but then there's a.
Speaker 2: Twist, YEAH i love the. Title it's slightly, nonsensical BUT
Speaker 2: i like. It and then he was also In Mario
Speaker 2: bova's nineteen seventy seven Film shock and just various Other italian.
Speaker 2: Productions now that character has a brother in this, picture
Speaker 2: played By Massimo, serrato and the character's name is just
Speaker 2: great brother and this Actor serrato lived nineteen sixteen through
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty, Nine italian. Actor he was In Nicholas Rogues
Speaker 2: Don't Look, now Starring Julie christy And Donald. Sutherland that
Speaker 2: was the main picture that jumped out of.
Speaker 3: Me oh, man have you seen that?
Speaker 2: ONE i, haven't BUT i know it's very well.
Speaker 3: Regarded, yeah that one's a classic horror, movie very opposite
Speaker 3: end of the spectrum from the goofiness we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Here that one's like very weird but also like, deep
Speaker 3: emotionally powerful. Dark, yeah that one's don't screw around with that,
Speaker 3: One like put yourself in the right state of mind
Speaker 3: if you're gonna watch.
Speaker 2: It, Okay now the next actor and the next character.
Speaker 2: Here this is very pretty exciting because it's a very
Speaker 2: esteemed actor kind of slumming it, UP i, guess you,
Speaker 2: know collecting a paycheck in This Italian Star wars. Film
Speaker 2: the actor Is Author kennedy and he plays our second tier,
Speaker 2: villain our mad scientist, villain Doctor.
Speaker 3: Craspin Arthur kennedy is fantastic in. This you can tell
Speaker 3: he like all of the roles in this. Film it's,
Speaker 3: underwritten but you can tell he is doing his best
Speaker 3: to chew the, scenery even though there's not a whole
Speaker 3: lot to chew.
Speaker 2: On, yeah in a film that is just packed with
Speaker 2: low energy, performances you, know and you, know poor writing
Speaker 2: and just this stuff that just falls, Flat, Yeah kennedy
Speaker 2: brings the most energy to his. Performance at, times he's
Speaker 2: he's snarling like a mad, dog and it really stands
Speaker 2: out on a picture again where everybody else is really
Speaker 2: almost quelutic in their.
Speaker 3: Performance. YEAH i would say one of the main characteristics
Speaker 3: of the acting in this film is that it's almost
Speaker 3: as if the, director you, know you've heard the story
Speaker 3: that What George lucas would say to people on the
Speaker 3: set Of Star wars was like, faster, louder more intense
Speaker 3: in their line. Deliveries in this, case the director was
Speaker 3: just always telling, PEOPLE i don't want you to emphasize
Speaker 3: any particular word in the. Sentence they should all sound
Speaker 3: exactly the.
Speaker 2: Same, Yeah, yeah like bring it down a.
Speaker 3: Notch. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Arthur Kennedy american act of stage and screen who
Speaker 2: won a nineteen forty Nine Tony award for his role
Speaker 2: in the original stage production Of Arthur Miller's death of A. Salesman.
Speaker 2: Wow he was a five Time oscar. Nominee he was
Speaker 2: in such major films of the nineteen, forties, fifties and
Speaker 2: sixties As lawrence Of, Arabia Bright, Victory Peyton, place And.
Speaker 2: Champion this was only this is just one of the
Speaker 2: last four films he did at the very end of his,
Speaker 2: career but he had had a pretty long. History NOW
Speaker 2: i don't know how how well he is remembered by
Speaker 2: today's movie going, audience like especially if you look at
Speaker 2: The oscars he was nominated. For he lost in all
Speaker 2: those cases to actors WHO i think had more star
Speaker 2: power and more staying, power at least in the public.
Speaker 2: Memory but he was a real, talent and again he
Speaker 2: is just clearly light years ahead of any other actor
Speaker 2: in this.
Speaker 3: Film agreed a good casting.
Speaker 2: DECISION i did read that they initially Wanted Donald pleasants
Speaker 2: for this. Role, Yeah pleasants would have been perfect for this.
Speaker 2: Role he was in a lot of other you, know
Speaker 2: international pictures, though where he played this sort of, thing
Speaker 2: like the evil guy in a funny. Costume, oh but he.
Speaker 3: Would have been absolutely on tone for the rest of
Speaker 3: the acting in this film Because Donald. Pleasants one of
Speaker 3: the weird things about him is that he has striking
Speaker 3: monotone delivery so, often.
Speaker 2: Yeah almost almost. Always it's. Rare there are some, there
Speaker 2: there are some films you'll find where he plays a
Speaker 2: more high energy. Character but, generally, yeah he. Was he
Speaker 2: was very much in That Michael lonsdale school of low key,
Speaker 2: performance but.
Speaker 3: In a different with the kind of more nasal. VERSION
Speaker 3: i remember the main line of his that illustrates this
Speaker 3: is In escape From New york when he plays The
Speaker 3: president of The United states and he gets into that
Speaker 3: escape pod egg to get out of his airplane and
Speaker 3: he says something, like May god have messy on you? All.
Speaker 3: Yeah he always good in that, One so, yeah he would.
Speaker 3: Have he would have been right on the same page
Speaker 3: with all the other actors in. This but NOW i
Speaker 3: think it's good that they Got Arthur. Kennedy he mixes it.
Speaker 3: Up you get the sense That Arthur kennedy can like
Speaker 3: tell a part the different parts of speech in a
Speaker 3: sentence when he says them it's. Nice.
Speaker 2: Yes now his character has sort of a companion. Villain
Speaker 2: we'll get into the details in a. Bit Lady agatha
Speaker 2: played By Barbara bach in forty. Seven this was the
Speaker 2: bond girl from The Spy Who Loved me from seventy, seven.
Speaker 3: Right she plays A soviet spy who comes up Against
Speaker 3: Roger moore In The Spy Who Loved. Me The Spy
Speaker 3: Loved me is a little. BIT i, mean all The
Speaker 3: Roger moore movies are. Goofy The Spy Love me is
Speaker 3: a little bit less goofy Than, Moonraker and so there's
Speaker 3: some spy versus spy action In The Spy Who Loved?
Speaker 3: Me where she's the she sort of starts off as a.
Speaker 3: Villain then of course they end up falling in, love
Speaker 3: as always. Happens BUT i recall her being actually pretty
Speaker 3: good in That bond. Movie in, THIS i, mean she's
Speaker 3: great in the role because she like wears these these
Speaker 3: unbelievable wigs well and. Stuff BUT i gotta, say abs
Speaker 3: like the flattest DELIVERY i have ever heard of any
Speaker 3: line delivery at all in this, film.
Speaker 2: Right so it basically it fits the tapestry of this.
Speaker 3: Movie. Well, yeah but she.
Speaker 2: Was in a lot of things back in the. Day
Speaker 2: she was In Sergio Martino screamers from nineteen seventy nine
Speaker 2: That i've mentioned several times, Here Forced ten From navarone
Speaker 2: from seventy, eight and also a film THAT i think
Speaker 2: you have told me, About Joe, Black belly of The
Speaker 2: tarantula from nineteen seventy.
Speaker 3: One oh, yeah that's Another jallo. Movie it's one of these,
Speaker 3: slashery Trashy italian murder. Mysteries but this one has a
Speaker 3: really good. Cast she HAS i think a smaller part in.
Speaker 3: It the main character in that one is actually played
Speaker 3: By Giancarlo jannini and he's. Wonderful.
Speaker 2: Now a bit character in, this And i'm just gonna
Speaker 2: mention quickly is Hal, yamanucci who was born in nineteen forty,
Speaker 2: six A japanese born actor who plays just humanoid soldier in.
Speaker 2: This so it's a very bit. Part but this is
Speaker 2: an actor that shows up in a ton Of italian
Speaker 2: and international. Pictures he's also been in such films As The,
Speaker 2: Wolverine The, Life, Aquatic zoolander. Two he's been in over
Speaker 2: one hundred films and was in several films from the
Speaker 2: likes Of Sergio martino And Zog. Castellari he began his
Speaker 2: career as a. Mime he translated and Dubbed japanese language
Speaker 2: films Into, italian and he was even In Stuart Gordon's
Speaker 2: Robot jocks from nineteen, ninety, which to remind everybody our
Speaker 2: favorite battling robots film here. WAS i believe it was
Speaker 2: at least An italian co.
Speaker 3: Production oh, OKAY i had forgotten that fact about. It.
Speaker 3: NOW i was not on the lookout for howl in,
Speaker 3: this so where do you remember what part of the
Speaker 3: movie he shows.
Speaker 2: UP i never saw, him or if he showed, UP
Speaker 2: i missed. Him he might have been in one of
Speaker 2: those fabulous sort of stormtrooper costumes that we. See i'm
Speaker 2: not entirely sure about, that, okay but he has a
Speaker 2: very distinctive. Face so you can look up ON IMDb
Speaker 2: and you might well recognize him and, go, oh, guy,
Speaker 2: Yeah i've seen.
Speaker 3: Him thanks for. Sure i'll have to look him up after.
Speaker 2: This, now we Mentioned you're The hunter from The future,
Speaker 2: earlier and the director of, That Antonio, margaretti was the
Speaker 2: special effects supervisor in this.
Speaker 3: Film now that would make sense of something THAT i
Speaker 3: caught here BECAUSE i was watching this movie AND i
Speaker 3: noticed a reused. Costume humanoid has costume overlap with Your
Speaker 3: hunter from The. Future, now AS i, Mentioned your is
Speaker 3: a very strange movie because it it's you, know it's
Speaker 3: Put genres in a particle collider where it's Part conan
Speaker 3: The barbarian with Reb brown From Space mutiny Playing conan
Speaker 3: but like less. Smart and then the villain is just
Speaker 3: straight Up Darth, vader and he has stormtroopers who work for,
Speaker 3: him and so the stormtroopers who work for The Darth
Speaker 3: vader In your where the exact same costumes as some
Speaker 3: of the stormtroopers in this. Movie And i've attached some
Speaker 3: pictures for you to look, At, rob so you can
Speaker 3: se That i'm telling the.
Speaker 2: TRUTH, YEP i looked at these, earlier and it is
Speaker 2: the same, costume if or at least the same, mask
Speaker 2: mostly the same.
Speaker 3: COSTUME i. THINK i don't know if i'd actually recommend
Speaker 3: people try to Watch your BUT i would recommend everyone
Speaker 3: listen to the theme song of Your hunter from The, Future.
Speaker 3: Seth can we get a little clip of? That those
Speaker 3: are the sounds of yours.
Speaker 2: World, well since we're talking about, music let's talk about
Speaker 2: the music in this, film because this may come as
Speaker 2: a shock given everything that we, Said but the score
Speaker 2: for The humanoid is by none other Than Ineo Morricone Indio.
Speaker 3: Morricone Has is it? Okay? ROB i feel like you're
Speaker 3: you're SOMEBODY i respect your like all encompassing enthusiasm for
Speaker 3: electronically based, music because it seems to me usually if
Speaker 3: a movie score is, electronic you're gonna give it a
Speaker 3: lot of, latitude and you're you're giving yourself space to love.
Speaker 3: It AND i appreciate that about. YOU I i wanted
Speaker 3: to love, this BECAUSE i do Love Anyo. Morriconi BUT
Speaker 3: i thought the music in this movie was. Terrible it
Speaker 3: had that that that theme that kept playing over and
Speaker 3: over that sounded, LIKE i don't, know it sounded like
Speaker 3: like the trophy ceremony music at The olympics or, something
Speaker 3: but but synthed.
Speaker 2: UP I i readily admit that the music in this
Speaker 2: is kind of all over the, place but there but
Speaker 2: The cynthia parts of, it WHICH i think we're gonna
Speaker 2: play a sample off here in a. Minute The cynthier
Speaker 2: parts of it really struck a chord with, me in
Speaker 2: part because they remind me a lot of some elements
Speaker 2: that pop up in the early work of the electronic
Speaker 2: Duo boards Of, Canada, oh particularly some stuff on music
Speaker 2: has A right To children there they're their classic. Album
Speaker 2: AND i actually went down a rabbit hole of like
Speaker 2: listening back To boards Of canada tracks BECAUSE i was
Speaker 2: curd BECAUSE i also was, like, well maybe it was
Speaker 2: a mix or some of their very early, stuff like
Speaker 2: maybe they actually utilized a sample from this. SCORE i
Speaker 2: know THAT i know they were inspired by a lot
Speaker 2: of different elements AND i Imagine morricconi was in the
Speaker 2: mix for them as far AS i can, tell, Though,
Speaker 2: yeah there are just some things that kind of sound
Speaker 2: similar in some boards Of canada. FILMS i don't know
Speaker 2: if it's a direct connection there or they were kind
Speaker 2: of breathing the same synthetic, ambiance but it does remind
Speaker 2: me a lot of some moments in boards Of canada's.
Speaker 3: Work there's even some visual tie, in because toward the
Speaker 3: end of the movie there's a part WHERE i was
Speaker 3: enjoying the cheesy synth score and they were like flying
Speaker 3: off into the sunset with the color scheme that looked
Speaker 3: very much like boards Of canada. Art.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah so now that we're talking about, it let's
Speaker 2: go ahead and have just a sample from this Seth
Speaker 2: this would be the. Track this Is infansia evolutione E Ritorno. Ritorno,
Speaker 2: yes this is off the soundtrack for The Humanoid Buy. Morricone,
Speaker 2: SEE i really like. THAT i think, THAT i, say
Speaker 2: it strikes a chord with me and, okay, okay it
Speaker 2: that the little ditty that we heard there is probably
Speaker 2: like responsible for seventy five percent of my enjoyment of this.
Speaker 3: Film, WELL i want to meet you halfway on this
Speaker 3: because WHILE i do still think the music was surprisingly,
Speaker 3: TERRIBLE i mean any of. More connie is an amazing film.
Speaker 3: COMPOSER i mean he did the, Film he did the
Speaker 3: music For The, thing, which like Several carpenter. MOVIES i,
Speaker 3: Mean John carpenter is a great, director but he has
Speaker 3: a number of movies that in a way are just
Speaker 3: made by the. Score you, know like his own score
Speaker 3: for For, HALLOWEEN i think makes the. Movie you take
Speaker 3: that music out of the, movie the movie isn't half as.
Speaker 3: GOOD i, mean it's still, good but you, know that's
Speaker 3: what pushes it over the. Edge similar thing For morconi's
Speaker 3: music In The, thing like that Dunt dune thing that
Speaker 3: drives the feeling of the. Movie it defines the whole. Tone, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely another couple Of Morricone and again there's so Many
Speaker 2: morricone SCORES i think HE i mean it, WAS i
Speaker 2: think it's hundreds of things that he. Did as four
Speaker 2: hundred scores on the big and small. SCREEN i believe
Speaker 2: it's the NUMBER i, saw but a couple that really stand.
Speaker 2: Out you have The, good The, bad And ugly from
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty, six just really iconic, work and then nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2: Six the nineteen eighty six Film The, mission which is
Speaker 2: a beautiful and, tragedy just a wonderful. Film probably it
Speaker 2: got to be one of my top like serious motion.
Speaker 3: Pictures, OH i don't Think i've ever seen that.
Speaker 2: One, oh it Has Jeremy, irons it Has robert De,
Speaker 2: niro and it's about missionaries In South america and It's,
Speaker 2: yeah it's a beautiful tragic. Story and it has this beautiful.
Speaker 2: SCORE i, mean The mission sound the score By marconi
Speaker 2: is just absolutely. Breathtaking you've probably heard something from, it and,
Speaker 2: YEAH i can't do it. JUSTICE i can't properly explain.
Speaker 2: It But The mission is a wonderful movie and the
Speaker 2: soundtrack is.
Speaker 3: Amazing, okay, well WELL i owe you watching that. One
Speaker 3: BUT i also SAID i was going to meet you
Speaker 3: halfway about The morricone, score which is. Good WHILE i
Speaker 3: don't REALLY i don't think the movie is well served
Speaker 3: by the melodies composed as like full music pieces this,
Speaker 3: MOVIE i do like the individual, sounds AND i can
Speaker 3: see how the sounds from the score of this movie
Speaker 3: could be well used as samples in electronic. Music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah and apparently it has resonated. THERE i was
Speaker 2: reading that the two in two thousand and, three The
Speaker 2: german electronic Group Computer jockeys one, word not a GROUP
Speaker 2: i was familiar, with but they apparently did a reworking
Speaker 2: of the TRACK A man In space from the score
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 3: Movie you. Know we were also looking at a very
Speaker 3: odd website that IS i don't know how exactly to describe.
Speaker 3: It it's like a fan website for The humanoid and
Speaker 3: For Richard keel that was looks like it was made
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety, eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah and hasn't Seen it doesn't seem to have, changed
Speaker 2: WHICH i, love SO i do recommend checking that.
Speaker 3: Out what's the web address for? That, okay so we
Speaker 3: just had to look it. Up It's golob The Humanoid
Speaker 3: Glob Golob theehumanoid dot com and it has a page on.
Speaker 3: It it's all about like music that has been made
Speaker 3: as like popfan music about the. Humanoid so they've got
Speaker 3: one song on there that you can download by a
Speaker 3: band Called ganymede THAT i was not otherwise familiar, with
Speaker 3: but it's about the, humanoid AND i think there's other music,
Speaker 3: Too so The, humanoid you, know it really gets under people's.
Speaker 3: Skin it, inspires it makes, it you, know gets those
Speaker 3: creative juices.
Speaker 2: Flowing you're, right it's just an inspiring motion.
Speaker 3: Picture can you, guess, Listener can you guess how this movie?
Speaker 3: Begins what we see on the screen at the beginning
Speaker 3: of the. Film could it be that there is a
Speaker 3: starfield with some nebulae in the, background and then a
Speaker 3: text crawl that rolls from the bottom of the screen
Speaker 3: to the. Top it's, true that is how it, starts
Speaker 3: and so what we get is a text scrawl WITH
Speaker 3: i can't remember is it narrated AS i think it,
Speaker 3: is BECAUSE i think the text is actually In italian
Speaker 3: and gets narrated In. English so we get it read
Speaker 3: to us and we Hear, metropolis known ages ago as
Speaker 3: Planet earth now faces its gravest. Hour Lord grawl has
Speaker 3: just escaped from the prison satellite where his, brother ruler
Speaker 3: of the peaceful galactic, democracy had exiled. Him malevolent and power,
Speaker 3: Hungry grawl has plans of vengeance that might forever alter
Speaker 3: the destiny of. Mankind very, good BECAUSE i love how
Speaker 3: it starts with the prison, satellite as if you already
Speaker 3: know what that.
Speaker 2: Is you, know it's also telling that because you know
Speaker 2: from the very beginning In Star, wars when the text
Speaker 2: moves across the, screen we already have a sense of
Speaker 2: a large, universe you, know and not all the details
Speaker 2: are filled. In there's a lot of stuff that is developed,
Speaker 2: later but we get the idea that this is an,
Speaker 2: expansive fantastic. World and in this picture we already get
Speaker 2: an idea of a small. World like everything feels small
Speaker 2: despite Its star. Warsiness that's a very good.
Speaker 3: POINT i, mean, yeah just the text In Star wars
Speaker 3: makes you feel like the galaxy is, big a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff is, happening and we're coming in right in
Speaker 3: the middle of. Things this text suggests this world is,
Speaker 3: boring not much is, happening and we're starting here at
Speaker 3: the beginning before four things even really ramp.
Speaker 2: Up, yeah and our fantastic location in space Is earth
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 3: Future. Yeah like the way things start in this movie
Speaker 3: is not with crisis but with peaceful galactic, democracy and
Speaker 3: the opening text tells you there's a guy who's maybe
Speaker 3: about to mess that. Up but of, course right at
Speaker 3: the beginning we get spaceships, zooming because again this is
Speaker 3: A Star wars, ripoff AND i will say more so
Speaker 3: Than message From space or Even Star. Crash those are
Speaker 3: Both Star wars clones that we've talked about before and
Speaker 3: have their own. Charms this movie does way more direct
Speaker 3: ripping off of set pieces From Star. Wars just blatant
Speaker 3: ripoffs of shots and sets and costumes from the.
Speaker 2: Movie, yeah like A message From, space the star the,
Speaker 2: starships they all they all look different and they had
Speaker 2: kind of a cool, look and the models were very well.
Speaker 2: Done but, man this is just like a straight Up
Speaker 2: Star destroyer In, yes.
Speaker 3: This one just starts with The Star destroyer sliding in
Speaker 3: right over the, camera like the opening shot Of Star. Wars.
Speaker 3: YEAH i know that shot gets copied in a lot of,
Speaker 3: movies but this one is the most blatant That i've ever.
Speaker 2: Seen, yeah it's about as spot on as you could
Speaker 2: get without just actually.
Speaker 3: Using a model of A Star destroyer or or just
Speaker 3: ripping the. Footage, yeah and the model they use is close,
Speaker 3: enough like you, know if you were, squinting you might mistake. It,
Speaker 3: Yeah and so you, know we get The Star destroyer coming.
Speaker 3: IN i think we're to assume already That Lord grawl
Speaker 3: is on this. SHIP i don't know why we know,
Speaker 3: that but that's just, implied and, okay, yeah we get.
Speaker 3: It Darth vader was on The Star. Destroyer Lord grawl's
Speaker 3: on this. Thing and we see a smaller ship approach
Speaker 3: The Star. Destroyer it looks like it's some space cops or,
Speaker 3: something and they radio and they're, like, hey who are,
Speaker 3: you what's? Up and then The Star destroyer just annihilates
Speaker 3: it blasts, it and then we get the monologue Of
Speaker 3: Lord grawl before we see. Him we hear. HIM i
Speaker 3: guess he's like talking in his. Head he, goes those
Speaker 3: pilots were, sheep not. Soldiers my brother has made his
Speaker 3: army bloated with, peace.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: Know and this reminds me there are actually people who
Speaker 3: have had mentalities like this in history that, like you,
Speaker 3: know war is what makes people strong and peace makes people.
Speaker 3: Soft it's even Infected american thinking at. TIMES i think
Speaker 3: Unfortunately Teddy roosevelt at some points in his life was
Speaker 3: somewhat susceptible to this kind of, thinking, like, oh you
Speaker 3: need a good war to make your culture. Strong and
Speaker 3: this Is graul's philosophy as. Well, yes yes it. Is
Speaker 3: but then we see him and oh my, god This Darth, vader,
Speaker 3: Dude Lord GRAWL i don't even know where to. Start
Speaker 3: he's got belts over his, face and so it's not
Speaker 3: a Full Darth vader. Mask it is A Darth vader
Speaker 3: helmet and Like Darth, vader kind of black leathery looking
Speaker 3: shoulder pads and the rest of the suit is Very vader,
Speaker 3: esque but instead of the robot face Of, vader we
Speaker 3: get a crucifix of black belts over the.
Speaker 2: Face, yeah this Discount Darth vader, COSTUME i, think in
Speaker 2: many ways helps illustrate just how well the Actual Darth
Speaker 2: vader costume was designed and brought to. Life for, Instance
Speaker 2: Darth vader's helmet contains elements of the skull of a,
Speaker 2: samurai heilm of an, insect of a, robot but it
Speaker 2: hits all of these notes in ways that don't overwhelm,
Speaker 2: you you, know like there's a perfect alchemy to the
Speaker 2: way these elements come together In Darth vader's, helmet and
Speaker 2: that's why it's become this just iconic. Symbol but this
Speaker 2: Design grawl's, outfit it leans way too heavily on first
Speaker 2: of all the samurai, Motifs like it's clearly just a
Speaker 2: just a shiny samurai helmet that you, know they painted.
Speaker 3: Black and then he.
Speaker 2: Has that weird face shackle across his face that kind
Speaker 2: of looks like it's it kind of looks like he's
Speaker 2: a punishment you, know like, yes like they've put his
Speaker 2: face in a gibbet or thel.
Speaker 3: He got into the cookie jar and they're like put
Speaker 3: on the punishment.
Speaker 2: Helmet, yeah like it has that man in the iron
Speaker 2: mask kind of a feel to.
Speaker 3: It it just it just comes, off is. Weird Lord
Speaker 3: grawl is, sorry CAN i take the belts? Off so
Speaker 3: they're Approaching, metropolis, which as we've already been, told is Planet.
Speaker 3: EARTH i guess it's Just earth in the, future and
Speaker 3: Barth quator here sends out an attack ship that is
Speaker 3: piloted by a guy in a your, helmet you know
Speaker 3: the ones that are also in your and he, says he,
Speaker 3: says make sure there are no, survivors especially That Barbara.
Speaker 3: Gibson so, YEAH i just love. It Lord grawl has
Speaker 3: put a hit On Barbara. Gibson, Yeah Barbara. Gibson and
Speaker 3: then we Meet Barbara gibson and this Is Koreean. Clary
Speaker 3: she's working at a place called The. Institute The institute
Speaker 3: is one of those places from you know seventies and
Speaker 3: eighties sci fi movies where everybody wears kind of billowy.
Speaker 3: CLOTHES i don't know what you call the texture of that,
Speaker 3: fabric but you, know it's Like Princess leah's. Dress everybody's
Speaker 3: just dressed like, that and it's on a planet THAT
Speaker 3: i think is supposed to look like From Star. Wars
Speaker 3: this is another one of the things that we should
Speaker 3: get into this in more depth as we go. On
Speaker 3: but LIKE i was interested, In, okay when movies are
Speaker 3: trying to rip Off Star, wars what are the elements
Speaker 3: they rip? Off because they don't usually copy the overall
Speaker 3: story structure or anything like. That instead they copy specific
Speaker 3: esthetic elements Like Darth vader's suit and the desert Planet.
Speaker 3: Tattooine all of These Star wars ripoffs have a desert
Speaker 3: planet like this with white earthen.
Speaker 2: Buildings, yeah AND i think so if memory SERVES i
Speaker 2: don't have the figures in front of me, here BUT
Speaker 2: i believe they filmed this In, italy but also a
Speaker 2: little bit In, Israel So i'm not sure in any
Speaker 2: of these desert, scenes if we're looking at At italian
Speaker 2: landscape or we're looking at At Middle eastern.
Speaker 3: Landscape BUT i would guess this Is, Israel, okay.
Speaker 2: BUT i will say these are neat, locations you, know
Speaker 2: they they look interesting and they feel they kind of
Speaker 2: feel suitably, alien even if we're not actually on an
Speaker 2: alien world if this is Just. Earth BUT i liked it.
Speaker 3: ENOUGH i was wondering, Though so it's an. Institute what
Speaker 3: do they study at this? Institute? Everything, yeah, Everything, okay
Speaker 3: it's the place of. Knowledge and So Barbara gibson is
Speaker 3: hanging out at work and then she gets a video
Speaker 3: call from a child who pops up on the video.
Speaker 3: Screen we learned that the child's name Is Tom, tom
Speaker 3: And Tom tom tells her that she must leave the
Speaker 3: institute and come home at. Once and so you, think,
Speaker 3: okay how is he going to convince her to? Leave
Speaker 3: but he doesn't need to do any. Convincing it's almost
Speaker 3: like the video call the child hypnotizes her with like
Speaker 3: secret magic, words and then she just robotically in a trance,
Speaker 3: state walks out of work and goes. Home so immediately
Speaker 3: we know that That Tom tom there's something up with,
Speaker 3: him like he's got.
Speaker 2: Powers, yeah this is, Yeah Tom tom as a magical,
Speaker 2: Child AND i Like Tom Tom Tom tom has a
Speaker 2: cool energy about. Him whenever he's he seems in control
Speaker 2: the whole. Time he's never really in peril in a
Speaker 2: way that made me feel. Uncomfortable so, Yeah i'm a big.
Speaker 3: Fan oh were you kind of The Gene sisco school
Speaker 3: that you don't like it when a movie puts a
Speaker 3: child in?
Speaker 2: DANGER i not, necessarily BUT i do find in some
Speaker 2: films that a child is put in danger in a
Speaker 2: way that the acting is a little too. Real oh,
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't, know and not a way that That
Speaker 2: i'm like completely like taken out of the viewing experience per.
Speaker 2: Se BUT i have seen particularly Some italian horror films
Speaker 2: Where i'm, like, oh, MAN i think that.
Speaker 3: Child was really.
Speaker 2: Terrified oh AND i don't. KNOW i just really Liked
Speaker 2: Tam tam here AND i didn't WANT i didn't want
Speaker 2: anything bad to happen to. Him but luckily he's super.
Speaker 2: Chill he's not worried about, it SO i be worried
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: Either, yeah he never seems upset a single bit in this.
Speaker 3: Movie he is like amazingly. Calm he has clearly mastered
Speaker 3: some some techniques of emotional CAN i believe so immediately
Speaker 3: After Barbara gibson leaves the, institute there's just a stormtrooper.
Speaker 3: Attack they wander through blasting everything that. Moves they kill,
Speaker 3: everybody and they steal some mcguffin from inside the vault
Speaker 3: at the institute that is called The. Capitron AND i
Speaker 3: was just, thinking, like why does this sound so, familiar
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i thought on a previous episode Of Weird House,
Speaker 3: cinema we have discussed a mcguffin from a movie that
Speaker 3: sounded like the dental device called a. Cavitron it's not
Speaker 3: ringing a.
Speaker 2: BELL i, mean capatron sounds like it should be some
Speaker 2: sort of synthesizer from the late nineteen, seventies but it's.
Speaker 3: Not And Anio morricone on The. Capitron but the lead
Speaker 3: stormtrooper has to go back and report to Barth quader
Speaker 3: That Barbara gibson was not at the institute when they,
Speaker 3: arrived and then Barth quader punishes. Him he's, like you
Speaker 3: are stripped of your privileges for one hun hundred. Days
Speaker 3: and THEN i was, like, ooh what are these? Privileges
Speaker 3: we're going to learn something about stormtroopers. Society what special
Speaker 3: privileges do they? Get and what is the punishment when
Speaker 3: they're stripped of? Them but then. Nothing we never learned
Speaker 3: what that, means.
Speaker 2: Like is it are the toilet privileges or is it
Speaker 2: or is it something like really nice like you don't
Speaker 2: get to play The xbox or something that is there
Speaker 2: for the. Stormtroopers you, Know i'm not sure how much
Speaker 2: this hurt.
Speaker 3: Him clearly it was not The stormtrooper's. Fault The Barbara
Speaker 3: gibson was not at the. Institute Tom tom got ahead
Speaker 3: of them and he had no way of controlling. That
Speaker 3: BUT i think this is to show us That Lord
Speaker 3: grawl is, Unfair like he doesn't care if the reason
Speaker 3: you failed was actually your. Fault he'll take away your
Speaker 3: privileges for one hundred days. Anyway, yeah he's a terrible.
Speaker 3: Boss so then we go back to The Barbara gibson
Speaker 3: And tom tomhouse And Tom tom is just wiping the
Speaker 3: floor with her at some kind of strategy. Game it
Speaker 3: looks like it's battleship or, something or chess on a
Speaker 3: computer in some, way and they talk about how even
Speaker 3: the computer can't beat, him and then she's, like where
Speaker 3: do you come? From and he, SAYS i come from
Speaker 3: a place far far away Where i've learned very. Much
Speaker 3: and my real name means Great ocean of, wisdom and
Speaker 3: so it. Is so he's not like her, child he
Speaker 3: is her. PUPIL i think she's a teacher and she's teaching,
Speaker 3: him but what is she teaching? Him he already appears
Speaker 3: to know.
Speaker 2: Everything, yeah he is an all powerful space. Child, Yeah
Speaker 2: and you, know that's that's basically all you need to
Speaker 2: know about. It and, honestly the movie gives us very
Speaker 2: little else in the way of.
Speaker 3: Answers but then we meet some more. Characters we're going
Speaker 3: to get into the politics of this. World so we
Speaker 3: meet a guy Named Great, brother which is pretty close
Speaker 3: To Big, brother but they say he's the leader of
Speaker 3: The Utopian order Of. Earth and you, know an alternate
Speaker 3: way of reading this film is that Actually earth is
Speaker 3: not a. Utopia it is An orwellian nightmare state under
Speaker 3: the control Of Great. Brother and the movie is just
Speaker 3: like it happens to be written By Inner party members
Speaker 3: that are loyal To Great. Brother and in, Fact Lord
Speaker 3: graul is the good. Guy he's like the he's being
Speaker 3: held up as The Emmanuel goldstein of this world so
Speaker 3: that all of our heroes can have a two minutes
Speaker 3: haite against, him but, No instead we Meet Great brother
Speaker 3: and he's, like he's chatting with this young guy Named,
Speaker 3: nick who is some kind of soldier And. METROPOLIS i
Speaker 3: think he's the young hunk of the. Movie he's supposed
Speaker 3: to Be Han solo, basically but far less, interesting dopier
Speaker 3: and mopier with longer curly. Hair and they talk about
Speaker 3: the theft of The capatron. Device Great brother, says if
Speaker 3: word gets, out there will be a. Panic why would that, be,
Speaker 3: well he. Explains he, says it was the discovery of
Speaker 3: the most ingenious scientists That metropolis has had in this,
Speaker 3: century Doctor. Craspin it has the power to modify a
Speaker 3: man's cell structure and transmute him into some sort of
Speaker 3: monstrosity with superhuman. Powers and So nick, asks, well why
Speaker 3: was the institute create a monstrosity beam And Great brother,
Speaker 3: SAYS i don't remember exactly what he. SAID i, mean,
Speaker 3: basically seems, like Well craspin had, tenure you, know he
Speaker 3: could do what he, wanted but somebody sniffed him. Out
Speaker 3: the person who learned what he was doing Was Dunda
Speaker 3: Da Da Barbara. Gibson Once Barbara gibson got on his.
Speaker 3: Trail everybody found out his evil, plans and he was
Speaker 3: arrested because she tattled To Big, brother and The capatron was.
Speaker 3: Confiscated but now it's been stolen and nobody knows where
Speaker 3: Doctor craspin, is so there's definitely trouble. Afoot and So
Speaker 3: nick is given a. Mission Big brother tells, him you
Speaker 3: need to go Find Barbara, gibson SO i think he
Speaker 3: calls her Miss, gibson so you can Find craspin and
Speaker 3: save the. Planet and this part really made. IT i
Speaker 3: laughed out loud here because there's no refusing the. Call
Speaker 3: there's No luke, saying you, know it's so far away from,
Speaker 3: here what CAN i? Do No Han solo saying you,
Speaker 3: know that's not bravery, kid it's more like sue. Side
Speaker 3: nick just says like all, right, boss.
Speaker 2: Yeah and this brings this brings us back to some
Speaker 2: of the points we're making about About Star wars copies
Speaker 2: And Star wars. Rebuffs they they'd certainly go for the.
Speaker 2: Esthetics they go for these elements like desert planets and
Speaker 2: stormtroopers and laser. Guns maybe if they have the budget for,
Speaker 2: it they'll throw in some droids and some. Aliens But
Speaker 2: the thing that they never copy is they never copy
Speaker 2: the hero's. Journey they never get into the mythological underpinnings
Speaker 2: that were that are so central To lucas's. Creations so
Speaker 2: there's there's never the hero of a thousand. Faces there's
Speaker 2: never any connection to the er. Myth you, know that's
Speaker 2: always what is.
Speaker 3: Missing, yeah the ripping off is of the most superficial.
Speaker 4: Elements, yeah and, ULTIMATELY i mean that's if you if
Speaker 4: you just get those superficial, Elements, yeah you don't Have
Speaker 4: Star wars because one of the things that always worked
Speaker 4: in The Star wars films is that you had that
Speaker 4: that mythological skeleton to the thing that was propelling things.
Speaker 3: Along oh, yeah. Totally but, HEY i know a way
Speaker 3: to fix the hollowness of this, story which is Introduce
Speaker 3: Richard keel and a cute. Robot, finally that's immediately what happens,
Speaker 3: Next and thank god we got, here because up to
Speaker 3: this point the movie is rather. Dull.
Speaker 2: YEAH i was having a very hard time paying attention
Speaker 2: to anything in this film until Finally Richard keele and
Speaker 2: the robot dogs show, up and then suddenly it's kind
Speaker 2: of interesting And i'm Like, Okay i'm beginning to see
Speaker 2: where we're going.
Speaker 3: Here. Yeah, Yeah So Richard keel is cruising in space
Speaker 3: in his spaceship and he encounters some kind of. Problem
Speaker 3: he's trying to Contact. Metropolis they're not getting back to.
Speaker 3: Him his ship's breaking. Down. Oh his character's name is
Speaker 3: Go law But, golob and he's just generally having a hard.
Speaker 3: Time and then we see him take out his frustrations
Speaker 3: on his adorable robot, Dog. Kip he's, Like, Kip i'm
Speaker 3: mad at, you but then he immediately feels bad about,
Speaker 3: it And kip is just the cutest. Thing this movie.
Speaker 3: SUCCEEDS i, Mean kip is not as effective emotional as
Speaker 3: The droids And Star wars. Are it doesn't have as
Speaker 3: much personality AS r TWO d, Two but because they
Speaker 3: went with with robot dog instead of just general, robot
Speaker 3: it gets automatic mileage out of dog.
Speaker 2: Similarities, yeah and it. Is it is very cute in
Speaker 2: a kind of kind of analog.
Speaker 3: Way you.
Speaker 2: Know it's like, this it's a dog made out of
Speaker 2: keyboard parts and.
Speaker 3: Stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah SO i enjoyed all the scenes Involving Richard keele's
Speaker 2: character and the robot.
Speaker 3: Dog me, too AND i laughed out loud when the
Speaker 3: robot dog extended its telescoping antenna tail and wagged. It
Speaker 3: BUT i feel like this is sort of where the
Speaker 3: movie really picks, up when we Meet Richard keel and
Speaker 3: when we start meeting more of the bad. Guys, so,
Speaker 3: Yeah Richard keel is, fun the robot dog is, great
Speaker 3: and so they're flying around in. Space but then we
Speaker 3: cut to the evil enemy base on a planet Called Planet,
Speaker 3: knoxun which outside looks exactly the is the other. Planet
Speaker 3: it's just a. Desert.
Speaker 2: YEAH i WHEN i watched, IT i thought they Said,
Speaker 2: Nixon SO i was, like the Planet. Nixon that's, great
Speaker 2: that's a perfect evil planet for the late nineteen.
Speaker 3: Seventies, YEAH i mean it's pretty. Close but here we
Speaker 3: meet another. Villain It's Barbara bach and the first thing
Speaker 3: you will notice about her is that she's wearing an
Speaker 3: absolutely astounding. Wig it's kind of hair, metal but it's
Speaker 3: it's also something else that you've just never seen on a.
Speaker 3: Human the wig she's wearing is at the same time
Speaker 3: hair and a hood and a.
Speaker 2: Helmet, yeah, yeah it's it's it's interesting, looking but you,
Speaker 2: know she's.
Speaker 3: She's a very stylish.
Speaker 2: Lady she's, uh you, know she's able to pull it off, somehow,
Speaker 2: somehow this doesn't look completely goofy on.
Speaker 3: Her so like the front of this hair looks like
Speaker 3: the McDonald's, Arches like it goes up on each side
Speaker 3: and then comes, down and it's kind of fluffy in the,
Speaker 3: front which makes it look like a you, know fur
Speaker 3: lined hood on a. Jacket but then behind, that the
Speaker 3: hair suddenly turns rigid and flat and it's like A
Speaker 3: Darth vader helmet on the, back but it's. Hair, Yeah
Speaker 3: and she's wearing a really funny dress with like a
Speaker 3: riveted metal. Neckline all the bad guys in this were
Speaker 3: stuff with riveted metal hymns on. It and it's pretty
Speaker 3: much immediately clear that what we're dealing with With barbara
Speaker 3: bak here is a space bathory because we get her
Speaker 3: and she's meeting with Doctor, craspin who remember the scientist
Speaker 3: who made The capatron who, Escaped and what they're doing
Speaker 3: when we first meet them is they put some poor
Speaker 3: woman into a plastic iron maiden that jabs her with
Speaker 3: a million hypodermic needles and it sucks out her life.
Speaker 3: Force And barbara back is just like, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's kind of a horrific. Scene it's also the
Speaker 2: only scene like the scene that has any nudity in,
Speaker 2: it because the woman they.
Speaker 3: Put into The Iron maiden is. Nude, yeah it's very
Speaker 3: strange because otherwise this could be a kid's, movie but
Speaker 3: then there's just unseen like ten seconds long that has
Speaker 3: nudity and brutal, violence and then if you were to
Speaker 3: just remove those ten, seconds it's a kids. Movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Absolutely so it's totally weird that we suddenly go
Speaker 2: to this place and then we then we're back into
Speaker 2: everything that's come before.
Speaker 3: Totally but SO i think we figure out what's going
Speaker 3: on here is that they are extracting the, fluids like
Speaker 3: it's Like Elizabeth, bathory you, know they're draining the liquids
Speaker 3: out of the local peasant girls so That Lady agatha
Speaker 3: here played By Barbara, back can can use this life
Speaker 3: force of these other women to stay young. Forever but doctor, Craspin,
Speaker 3: oh and this is a system that has been designed
Speaker 3: by Doctor, craspan much To Barbara back's, liking but he
Speaker 3: has to warn. Her he says science may have conquered,
Speaker 3: age but it will never succeed in conquering, death and
Speaker 3: for some reason she's mad at. HIM i don't remember.
Speaker 3: Why she starts kind of sniping at, him but Then
Speaker 3: craspin is very smooth that deflecting. Hers he, says don't
Speaker 3: you trust, Me Lady, agatha DON'T i give you daily.
Speaker 3: Doses you haven't aged one minute since you've been. Here
Speaker 3: AND i, thought would you normally notice having aged one minute.
Speaker 2: During the early parts of this, FILM i would, say,
Speaker 2: yes you definitely feel those minutes go.
Speaker 3: By but, yeah they're talking about it like people can
Speaker 3: normally look At barbara back and say, like, oh you've
Speaker 3: really aged one minute SINCE i saw you one minute.
Speaker 3: Ago but she says to doctor crasp AND i trust
Speaker 3: no one and you know. It so this is clearly
Speaker 3: just a fully transactional. Relationship and then, oh the next
Speaker 3: thing Is Lord. Grawl remember Barth quader arrives and we
Speaker 3: realize That Lord grawl And Lady agatha are an. Item
Speaker 3: they are. Together and when he arrives and Meets Lady
Speaker 3: agatha and crasp and he's, like, wow you are so.
Speaker 3: Beautiful you have not aged one. Minute and of course
Speaker 3: it's especially hilarious because he's still wearing the face. Belts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah this never comes. Off he never takes off this.
Speaker 3: Helmet, yeah so the face belts are always fully. On
Speaker 3: even in scenes where it looks like he and he
Speaker 3: And Barbara bach are about to like have some, romance
Speaker 3: the face belts are just right in the. Way AND i,
Speaker 3: think you, KNOW i was thinking about, this AND i was,
Speaker 3: Like Star wars made a smart decision by Keeping Darth,
Speaker 3: vader at least post his vadering basically, asexual because If
Speaker 3: Darth vader was trying to like have a dating life
Speaker 3: while he was building The Death, STAR i think that
Speaker 3: would not have added the right kind of depth to the.
Speaker 3: Film but here we get to see Their Darth vader's love.
Speaker 3: Life he And Lady. Agatha it seems like they're going
Speaker 3: to be very happy together though.
Speaker 2: In, away, like you, know she's worried about aging one
Speaker 2: minute and and absorbs the liquids of slaughtered peasants so
Speaker 2: that she can live. Longer he is a cold and
Speaker 2: motionless man inside of a face. Shackle that, so, yeah
Speaker 2: they seem perfect for each.
Speaker 3: Other, oh but here we learn about the plan that's
Speaker 3: driving the plot of the. Movie so we learn that
Speaker 3: Doctor craspin is going to create For Lord grawl And
Speaker 3: Lady agatha an army of humanoids that will be indestructible human. Robots,
Speaker 3: again this is another one of those movies where they
Speaker 3: they pronounce it. Robot and then pretty much right after,
Speaker 3: this Doctor craspan notices he like looks on a telescreen
Speaker 3: and he Sees Richard keel zooming around in space. Nearby you,
Speaker 3: know he's flying a spaceship outside The Star destroyer and,
Speaker 3: uh crasp or, OUTSIDE i guess they're at the base
Speaker 3: on Knox in at this. Point And craspin sees him
Speaker 3: on THIS tv and he's, like, oh that, guy that,
Speaker 3: GUY i want to turn him into an indestructible Human
Speaker 3: robut that's the Guy i'm going to. Humanoid so he
Speaker 3: uses he like messes with some switches on a panel
Speaker 3: to Make Richard keel crash land his ship on this.
Speaker 2: Planet and then they they like he has some to
Speaker 2: another cute scene interacting with the, dog and then he's
Speaker 2: just basically hit with a missile that just blows his
Speaker 2: ship up, right, yeah and transforms him into a.
Speaker 3: Humanoid, Right so he gets humanoided by a missile from.
Speaker 3: Space it's very beast Of yucca flats because he pops
Speaker 3: up and suddenly his beard is, gone like the moment he's.
Speaker 3: Humanoided he is now clean, shaven and let's see other transformation.
Speaker 3: Elements he can no longer. Talk he, Grunts, yeah he
Speaker 3: grunts and groans a, lot just rages around waving his. Arms,
Speaker 3: immediately some soldiers show up to shoot at, him and
Speaker 3: it does, nothing and he tosses them around like sacks of.
Speaker 3: Flour And craspin's dudes capture the Rage golob by knocking
Speaker 3: him out with What crassman calls a very special narcotic.
Speaker 3: Gas and then they take him back to the base and, say,
Speaker 3: okay we can control him now because we put an
Speaker 3: implant on his.
Speaker 2: Head, yeah there's this kind of third eye jewelry thing
Speaker 2: that they put on him and controls him.
Speaker 3: Right And crasban says To, grawl in seven, Days metropolis
Speaker 3: will be populated by an army of humanoids at your. Command,
Speaker 3: oh when we skipped over one thing THAT i thought
Speaker 3: was really, funny because there's like a there's like an
Speaker 3: interrupted romance scene Between Barber brock And Lord. Grawl here
Speaker 3: they're like in a room, together And Lady agatha says
Speaker 3: to him it is a great honor for me to
Speaker 3: be loved by the future ruler Of metropolis and the entire,
Speaker 3: galaxy and is the most absolutely flat line Delivery i've ever.
Speaker 3: Heard like, Yeah but Then Lord grawl's, like so you
Speaker 3: just want my power and she's, like only IF i
Speaker 3: can share it with, You AND i think they're about to,
Speaker 3: kiss BUT i don't know how they would kiss because
Speaker 3: his face belts are in the. Way and then Immediately
Speaker 3: Doctor craspan like interrupts them by coming on the telescreen
Speaker 3: on the wall and he's, like, hey what's. Up i've
Speaker 3: got you a. Humanoid he's so, tall let's turn him.
Speaker 4: In.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is stupid, too because it's, like, okay he
Speaker 2: can only he. Directly he's like a mindless killing machine
Speaker 2: that's directly controlled by the implant on his. Head and
Speaker 2: yet he's going to command an. Army what how does this?
Speaker 3: Work, Yeah i'm not quite. Sure but so they give
Speaker 3: a mission to the now humanoid did go, law but
Speaker 3: they send him on a hit job to kill great,
Speaker 3: brother remember Big brother from earlier In, metropolis And Lord
Speaker 3: grahl says to, him you will not stop until my
Speaker 3: brother is crushed to a pulp at your. Feet so
Speaker 3: they send him into this, place the city that looks
Speaker 3: like in the establishing. Shots it looks like when people
Speaker 3: make those aluminum casts of ant colony. Tunnels, yeah and
Speaker 3: it looks pretty.
Speaker 2: Interesting and it reminds me of another thing that you
Speaker 2: see In Star wars ripoff movies is, that, certainly if
Speaker 2: you can create an alien, city you, know like, this that's.
Speaker 2: Great but also if you can shoot as, many like
Speaker 2: late seventies futuristic bits of, architects, sure you know that
Speaker 2: kind of future shot kind of, architecture, ye that also
Speaker 2: is a great, idea and they do that in this.
Speaker 2: Film there's some really interesting architectural choices that they use
Speaker 2: as backdrops at.
Speaker 3: TIMES i think there are a lot of public library
Speaker 3: buildings that end up in these sci fi movies BECAUSE
Speaker 3: i don't, know you, know they've got some weird looking.
Speaker 2: Staircase, yeah any, Oh, yeah if you can get a
Speaker 2: weird looking staircase and interesting hotel, atrium then.
Speaker 3: Yeah you've got to put it in your. Movie so
Speaker 3: they Send Richard keel into the city Of. Metropolis, AGAIN
Speaker 3: i think the planet Is metropolis and the city Is,
Speaker 3: metropolis and the guards try to stop, him but of
Speaker 3: course nothing's going to stop. Him he's a. Humanoid so
Speaker 3: they shoot him with. Lasers it doesn't do. Anything he
Speaker 3: throws him on the. Ground the palace guards are being
Speaker 3: commanded by Again Nick, nick the guy from, earlier and
Speaker 3: the lasers have no, effect And golob is very.
Speaker 2: Angry, yeah he's basically a Rampaging frankenstein in all of.
Speaker 3: This, Yeah i'm throwing people on the. Ground the bad,
Speaker 3: yeah laser.
Speaker 2: Bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah and So nick goes to talk To Great brother
Speaker 3: and he, Says Great, brother you must leave the building at.
Speaker 3: Once there's some sort of mutant, outside and so they
Speaker 3: Evacuate Great brother And. Golob. Oh Then golob hijacks a
Speaker 3: land speeder just Like luke has in the First Star
Speaker 3: wars movie to go to the institute from, earlier because
Speaker 3: Somehow crasman knows that's Where Great brother has been evacuated.
Speaker 3: To and then he busts in there and they try
Speaker 3: to set a trap for him where they're going to
Speaker 3: Crush golob in a hydraulic, press but that doesn't work
Speaker 3: because he's too strong for. It he just pushes it
Speaker 3: right back. Up and then there's an interesting moment Where
Speaker 3: golob has a chance to Smash Great, brother like he's
Speaker 3: got him right. There he breaks through the traps and all,
Speaker 3: that But craspin for some reason gets greedy with his
Speaker 3: personal grudge and he's, like, no don't Kill Great brother,
Speaker 3: yet go Kill Barbara gibson.
Speaker 2: First, Yeah crasman cares more about Killing Barbara gibson than
Speaker 2: anyone else in this movie cares about.
Speaker 3: Anything, Yes and it's all for revenge Because Barbara gibson
Speaker 3: uncovered his illicit activities at the. Institute so he's, like you.
Speaker 3: Can't you can't Do Great brother until you do my
Speaker 3: revenge mission. First So golob then goes To Barbara gibson's
Speaker 3: house and there's a big chase scene where he's running,
Speaker 3: around smashing through walls and you think he's gonna Kill Korean,
Speaker 3: clary but instead It's Tom tom to the. Rescue Tom
Speaker 3: tom is there and he uses some kind of psychic
Speaker 3: powers On golob to calm, him stop the, raging stop
Speaker 3: the hulking, out and they sort of kneel down together
Speaker 3: And Tom tom says to, him may your essence return
Speaker 3: to your. Body let me reach into your heart and
Speaker 3: into your soul and it.
Speaker 2: Works, yeah and it's kind of. SWEET i don't, KNOW
Speaker 2: i kind of like the energy of, this you, know,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah but Then Korean clary this Is Barbara. Gibson she
Speaker 3: runs out into the desert BECAUSE i think she doesn't
Speaker 3: realize That Tom tom has successfully tamed the, beast and
Speaker 3: she is ambushed by. Stormtroopers but then we get this
Speaker 3: really weird sequence where the stormtroopers that are out to
Speaker 3: kill her are instead shot with like plastic neon arrows
Speaker 3: by these two mimes In Obi Wan kenobi robes that
Speaker 3: Are Tom tom's friends from another. Dimension he says they're foreign.
Speaker 2: Travelers, yeah they're they're kind of like space, elves not
Speaker 2: in any like kind of like warhammer, sense but like
Speaker 2: in like they're just sort of like fantasy.
Speaker 3: Elves, yeah very. Strange they come and go a lot
Speaker 3: in the. Movie they appear at random times to Aid
Speaker 3: Tom tom by shooting people with bow and. Arrow the
Speaker 3: movie has a lot of psychic powers and, clairvoyance and
Speaker 3: So Tom tom And golob then use psychic powers to
Speaker 3: reveal the location Of Lord grawl And craspin they find
Speaker 3: out they're On noxon and then When barbara goes to
Speaker 3: reveal this to the, authorities she gets, kidnapped kidnapped by
Speaker 3: a spaceship and taken to the evil Planet, noxon Leaving
Speaker 3: golob along With Tom. Tom and of Course barbara's taken
Speaker 3: to The Lord grawl and she says with again absolutely flat.
Speaker 3: Delivery it's, like great brother will crush you like a.
Speaker 3: Worm and she's Now Princess leah from the Original Star.
Speaker 3: Wars she's held prisoner on The Death. Star and now
Speaker 3: we're toward the end of the, movie but we finally
Speaker 3: kick into very familiar Original Star wars. Territory, right it's
Speaker 3: a rescue mission To Lord grawl's star, base And nick
Speaker 3: has to. GO i, guess BECAUSE i don't. Know he's
Speaker 3: the young honky, guy and he, says, Well i'm going
Speaker 3: to go on a single commando raid because that has
Speaker 3: the best chance of. SUCCESS i don't know why that
Speaker 3: would have the best chance of. Success why don't they
Speaker 3: send an entire. Army don't they have? One they're bloated by? Peace, Right,
Speaker 3: yeah that's, right they're bloated by. Peace Lord grawl was,
Speaker 3: Right so he's going to go on a mission to
Speaker 3: Rescue Barbara gibson and recover The. Capatron and then this
Speaker 3: part made me laugh out. Loud golob goes up to
Speaker 3: great brother and he's, like Go, lob Go barbara my.
Speaker 3: Friend and so he's sort of regained some ability to,
Speaker 3: speak but not the full ability to. Speak he can
Speaker 3: only talk in the caveman monosyllable. Thing oh and then
Speaker 3: of Course Tom tom comes. Along he sneaks onto the.
Speaker 3: Ship so Like nick And golob are flying to the
Speaker 3: base And Tom tom just shows. Up and what Does
Speaker 3: nick say to? Him he's, like are you are you
Speaker 3: out of your space dimensions or something something like.
Speaker 2: That it gets Very Star wars for a little bit,
Speaker 2: here and Just Star wars stuff, happens but it's still
Speaker 2: worth sticking with because there's a lot of cool stuff
Speaker 2: at the.
Speaker 3: End, yes, yes, Yes so there's a space dog fight
Speaker 3: on the way there where they get attacked by, ships
Speaker 3: and this is again one of those like blatant ripoff.
Speaker 3: Scenes is just a direct copy of the scene In
Speaker 3: Star wars Where luke And hahn go into the ball
Speaker 3: turret guns on The Millennium falcon and fight off the tie.
Speaker 3: Fighters it's a direct ripoff of, that except here instead
Speaker 3: Of luke And. Han it Is, nick the Lovable. NICK
Speaker 3: i did like in the scene, though How golob not
Speaker 3: approvingly every Time nick destroys an enemy, fighter looks At
Speaker 3: Tom tom and he's, like. Yep but Then nick gets
Speaker 3: knocked out and they crash land On Planet knox in
Speaker 3: which again looks exactly Like. Metropolis it's the same, desert
Speaker 3: and they get a reunion With kip the, robodog which
Speaker 3: is again truly very.
Speaker 2: Cute, yeah this relationship is the heart and soul of
Speaker 2: this motion, picture.
Speaker 3: Right so they have to infiltrate The. Bass so you've
Speaker 3: Got Richard keel And nick And Tom tom and Now
Speaker 3: kip the robot. Dog they're all working. Together they infiltrate
Speaker 3: the bad Guy bass by Having kip the robot distract
Speaker 3: the guards and then they all just run in the.
Speaker 3: Door and their method for Finding Barbara gibson in The
Speaker 3: secret Grawl lair is That golob says to the robot
Speaker 3: dog Bar bra and then somehow the dog leads them to.
Speaker 3: HER i don't know how that.
Speaker 2: Works, yeah it's a. DOG i guess it can lead
Speaker 2: people to. Places that's how it works IN tv.
Speaker 3: SHOWS i have several questions about the fighting that starts.
Speaker 3: Here so they have to fight some stormtroopers along the,
Speaker 3: way and a lot of this is hand to hand
Speaker 3: fighting with Like nick doing wrestling moves on. Stormtroopers why
Speaker 3: are they Having nick do the? Fighting Isn't golob indestructible
Speaker 3: at this? Point shouldn't they let him do the?
Speaker 2: Fighting they, should because he certainly does a lot of
Speaker 2: the melee combat before and, afterwards doing all sorts of
Speaker 2: fun giant, moves you, know throwing guys. Around at one,
Speaker 2: point he does this wonderful number where he grabs a
Speaker 2: guy and like just pounds his head into the ceiling several. Times,
Speaker 2: Yea and yet he never does a move THAT i was,
Speaker 2: anticipating the one where you come up behind two stormtroopers
Speaker 2: and you grab their heads and you knock them together like.
Speaker 3: Coconuts, yeah, yeah that stunds like.
Speaker 2: That would be just a that's just a go to giant,
Speaker 2: move and it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Happen that's that's money left on the, table my number
Speaker 3: one complain about this huge missed. Opportunity but then, meanwhile
Speaker 3: of course we got to have some some. Peril so
Speaker 3: we find out that Doctor crassman is going to Drain
Speaker 3: Barbara gibson with The Iron maiden Of needles to create
Speaker 3: the most potent dose of serum yet For barbara. Back
Speaker 3: and so she's in the setup and they got the
Speaker 3: needles going in for, her but then the heroes bust
Speaker 3: in to rescue, her and Doctor crassman looks so betrayed
Speaker 3: in this scene when When golob shows back up and
Speaker 3: now he's working for the good, guys he, says the
Speaker 3: humanoids fighting for, them it's not possible and he seems really. Hurt.
Speaker 2: Again best actor in the. Movie, yeah and it's in
Speaker 2: the in the bar is very, low you, know so
Speaker 2: when when Author kennedy's busting out those those, emotions like
Speaker 2: you feel them extra. Hard you're, like what is? This
Speaker 2: what AM i watching?
Speaker 3: Here so the bad guys have to run out of
Speaker 3: the room and escape while they rest while the good
Speaker 3: guys Rescue Barbara. Gibson But Lady agatha is distraught about
Speaker 3: this because she needs her. Serum she's repeatedly saying, LIKE
Speaker 3: i need my seerum. Immediately IF i don't get, IT
Speaker 3: i might age one. Minute and then there is a
Speaker 3: hallway blaster fight that again is ripped straight out Of Star.
Speaker 3: Wars it's just the scene From Cell BLOCK aa twenty,
Speaker 3: three and then this evolves into a big blaster fight
Speaker 3: and a spaceship. Hangar there's a great moment in this
Speaker 3: fight Where kip the robot dog defeats some stormtroopers by
Speaker 3: peeing on the floor and then they slip on it
Speaker 3: and fall. Over it's good at. First golob is Defeating
Speaker 3: stormtroopers by like knocking them on the, ground but then
Speaker 3: he gets a laser gun and he really tears up the.
Speaker 3: Place and this big action scene is, cheap but it's pretty.
Speaker 3: Fun yeah it.
Speaker 2: IS i enjoyed this one a. Lot and again this
Speaker 2: is where you have A golob like smashing people's heads
Speaker 2: into the ceiling and so.
Speaker 3: Forth. Yeah and so when this fight is going, on
Speaker 3: the bad guys are not doing so. Hot LIKE i
Speaker 3: said With Doctor crassman a minute, ago he sounds so,
Speaker 3: hurt like the bad guys really Seem you start kind
Speaker 3: of feeling bad for them Because Lady agatha is just
Speaker 3: clawing at the. Walls she's, LIKE i need my. Serum
Speaker 3: and Then Lord grawl issues the most forlorn and defeated
Speaker 3: order to kill them That i've ever. Heard do you
Speaker 3: remember this part where he says like kill?
Speaker 2: Them, yeah, YEAH i mean you kill them or shoot
Speaker 2: them is as a frequent order given by by, villains
Speaker 2: but generally there's a certain amount of whimsy or or
Speaker 2: evil to. IT i MEAN i always come back to
Speaker 2: the Excellent Ronald lacy And raiders of The Lost. Arc
Speaker 2: you know where he, goes shoot, them shoot them, both you,
Speaker 2: know like that's such great. Delivery and, yeah Gral is
Speaker 2: JUST i don't think he believes what he's.
Speaker 3: Saying he sounds like he knows he's. Lost he's just
Speaker 3: he's just. Begging he's, like kill. Them and then we
Speaker 3: get maybe my favorite special effect in this.
Speaker 2: Movie, yeah that's, right because time has run out For Lady.
Speaker 3: Agatha she aged one. Minute oh, no.
Speaker 2: That one minute that was that was the last, MINUTE i. Guess,
Speaker 2: yeah so she ages that one minute and then she
Speaker 2: just Completely it's kind of a rapid aging, effect kind
Speaker 2: of a melting, effect but not done nearly anywhere near
Speaker 2: as well as what you would see and Say.
Speaker 3: Raiders The Lost Arc orgon though the third.
Speaker 2: One The Last, crusade where we had a rapid aging
Speaker 2: sequence that was pretty. Great this is neither of. Those
Speaker 2: it's more of a frame by frame, effect similar to
Speaker 2: some early werewolf transformation sequences you see in.
Speaker 3: Pictures but it's still a lot of. Fun, yeah she
Speaker 3: turns into a rotten.
Speaker 2: Skeleton, yeah so that was. Fun that's worth hanging in
Speaker 2: there for.
Speaker 3: Now there's a bunch of other fighting stuff that. Happens
Speaker 3: at one point in the, Fight Tom tom and His
Speaker 3: archer mimes show up again to save the. Day they
Speaker 3: shoot the neon arrows at the bad guys While Tom
Speaker 3: tom does psychic. Stuff and then there was a part
Speaker 3: THAT i thought was very. Funny there was a brief
Speaker 3: hand to hand fight Between nick And Lord. Grawl so
Speaker 3: can you imagine If Star wars had a scene Where
Speaker 3: Hans solo And. Darth we're just punching and kicking each.
Speaker 3: Other but eventually in the, Scene Lord graul whips out
Speaker 3: his secret, weapon which is laser. Fingers this is not
Speaker 3: a power that we knew he. Had it just appears
Speaker 3: out of nowhere and he starts blasting his laser fingers At.
Speaker 3: Nick but, eventually Even Lord grawl is no match For.
Speaker 3: Golob the Humanoid Golob bear hugs him and then he
Speaker 3: disintegrates inside his.
Speaker 2: Suit, yeah this is kind of, weird kind of like
Speaker 2: a green screen. Effect and then the suit is, Empty
Speaker 2: gral is, defeated.
Speaker 3: And of course the heroes escape the base as it is.
Speaker 3: Exploding and then you got the problem with The, capatron
Speaker 3: this thing that's supposed to detonate and create a bunch
Speaker 3: of other humanoids Like, golob And golob decides he's going
Speaker 3: to sacrifice himself by detonating The capatron under a, lake
Speaker 3: so he grabs. It he sort of falls on a
Speaker 3: grenade but, underwater and they think he's. Dead but Then
Speaker 3: Richard keel pops buck back up out of the water
Speaker 3: and somehow he has his beard. Back it has unhumanoided
Speaker 3: him to fall on the grenade of The.
Speaker 2: Capitron, yes it's pretty, great and he's, like like he
Speaker 2: doesn't really have any memory of what. Happened she's, like
Speaker 2: you look great in a, beard and he's, Like i've
Speaker 2: always had a. Beard it's, beautiful beautiful.
Speaker 3: Moment, yeah and then we get absolutely bizarre twist ending
Speaker 3: THAT i have no idea how to, explain but we
Speaker 3: find out That Tom tom has got a sail off
Speaker 3: into the sunset because he explains that he is from
Speaker 3: another place Called. TIBET i assume that is supposed to
Speaker 3: refer To, tibet the place On, earth and so you'd
Speaker 3: think that this, is oh, well maybe this is like
Speaker 3: A i don't, know like one of those sci fi
Speaker 3: endings where, oh Actually earth is here and he's From
Speaker 3: earth and this is somewhere. Else but that doesn't make
Speaker 3: sense because they tell us That metropolis Is, earth so
Speaker 3: it would not make sense to say That Tom tom
Speaker 3: was From earth all along this faraway.
Speaker 2: Place is It is he From tobet in the past
Speaker 2: or DID i take that.
Speaker 3: Up on my? Entering? YEAH i. DON'T i was, like
Speaker 3: is he a time traveler from the. Past that is
Speaker 3: the only thing that really seems to make sense to.
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah i'm not. SURE i have no, answers BUT
Speaker 2: i did really like this this ending because, again it
Speaker 2: feels very boreds Of. Canada, yes it feels like we're
Speaker 2: just straight up teleporting into the hexagon sun here because
Speaker 2: we have that. Analog it's like this analog dreamy summer,
Speaker 2: day psychedelic, vibe the sense of everything's gonna be okay
Speaker 2: because you have the Boy Tom tom saying all these
Speaker 2: positive things while The morricone Dream twinkle music goes on
Speaker 2: in the, background and the glowing cosmic barge floats into
Speaker 2: the movie from The gray havens or to bed or,
Speaker 2: wherever and, uh, yeah it's a good landing for the.
Speaker 3: FILM i. Agree the end is just a slow cruise
Speaker 3: into the. Orange feels, good feels. Warm, yeah you do
Speaker 3: feel warm at the. End oh and we get some
Speaker 3: ending near. Too that was really. Funny it, said once
Speaker 3: again Planet earth had narrowly escaped. Disaster was there another?
Speaker 3: Time once again it had found in itself the, intelligence the,
Speaker 3: insight and the strength to repel a mortal. Enemy once,
Speaker 3: again man was to live at peace in the. Galaxy
Speaker 3: awesome they wrapped it. Up, YEAH i Guess, yoh, Okay
Speaker 3: Star wars wasn't able to do.
Speaker 2: That Like Star, wars they had to come back in
Speaker 2: subsequent films to flash everything. Out this film did it
Speaker 2: in one.
Speaker 3: Picture that's a good. Point, yeah no additional storytelling. Required
Speaker 3: everybody lived happily ever. After, yes, so oh what to?
Speaker 2: SAY i Guess in the, END i found this to
Speaker 2: be an enjoyable viewing, experience THOUGH i did have to
Speaker 2: force myself to keep watching. Through like the first ten
Speaker 2: minutes or. So, yeah and then there was certainly this
Speaker 2: kind of a potential dropout period later. On SO i
Speaker 2: would say that if you're to watch this, film you
Speaker 2: stick with, it or feel free to skip ahead a little,
Speaker 2: bit because you, know honestly you're not going to miss.
Speaker 3: MUCH i would say this one is very different From
Speaker 3: message From, space and that they're Both Star wars. Ripoffs
Speaker 3: But message From SPACE i THINK i already said this,
Speaker 3: earlier but it has a lot more esthetic uniqueness and
Speaker 3: interest to, it like a lot more different colors and
Speaker 3: sets and costumes and alien designs and, things and it
Speaker 3: goes a lot more different places with the. Plot like
Speaker 3: in many, Ways message From space was kind of hard
Speaker 3: to follow because a lot of strange things happen in.
Speaker 3: It this movie, IS i would, say the opposite end
Speaker 3: of the spectrum is it is very simple, plot very.
Speaker 3: Straightforward you might even want to fast forward some, parts
Speaker 3: but enjoyable in a similar.
Speaker 2: Way, Ultimately, yeah and worth it definitely For Richard keel
Speaker 2: and for Author, kennedy both of whom are very very
Speaker 2: entertaining in this.
Speaker 3: Film.
Speaker 2: Yeah now you're probably, wondering, well where CAN i watch?
Speaker 2: It it's been ON dvd. Before i'm sure you can
Speaker 2: probably land it ON dvd if you look around in
Speaker 2: the right, place BUT i could not find a legit
Speaker 2: streaming source for it right. NOW i don't. Know it
Speaker 2: might be on twob but it's definitely been on, YouTube
Speaker 2: like one of the places where it's hosted on. YouTube
Speaker 2: it's been up since twenty, fifteen and nobody's bothered to
Speaker 2: take it. Down it's not pristine. QUALITY i feel like
Speaker 2: you could probably get a better quality version of this
Speaker 2: if you had like a LEGIT dvd or, something but
Speaker 2: it's still.
Speaker 3: Watchable somebody get us the FOUR K. Humanoid, yeah, yeah
Speaker 3: the FOUR k. RESTORATION i want to see. IT i do.
Speaker 3: Too there's several THINGS i need more detail, on one
Speaker 3: of which is barber box wig THAT i need to
Speaker 3: see the define grains and details of the hair that's
Speaker 3: going on there and where the seams. Are that's very. Important,
Speaker 3: yeah it was. Impressive.
Speaker 2: Costume oh, YEAH i will say, overall like the costumes
Speaker 2: and sets and, miniatures, like everything looks pretty. Good some
Speaker 2: of the effects are a little afi, IFY i, guess
Speaker 2: but for the most, part everything looks pretty. Good it's
Speaker 2: Not Star WARS A New hope, quality but it's it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Good so it is the kind of film that would
Speaker 2: benefit from like a clear. RESTORATION i think maybe not FOUR.
Speaker 2: K don't bring it up too don't bring it bring
Speaker 2: it up into too high a, detail but you, know
Speaker 2: it's it's an interesting film to look.
Speaker 3: At put it in FOUR, k put it in EIGHT.
Speaker 3: K i want to see every molecule of this, movie.
Speaker 2: Because that is a real concern with some of these.
Speaker 2: Restorations we've seen those that you restore it a bit
Speaker 2: too much and you're going to see too many of the,
Speaker 2: cracks you see too many of the wires and so,
Speaker 2: forth and in some cases that has to then be digitally.
Speaker 3: Removed effects that used to look good don't look good.
Speaker 3: Anymore yeah, yeah or sometimes not even, effects just you,
Speaker 3: know the colors AND i don't know what you'd always call,
Speaker 3: it maybe the color grading and certain things about the
Speaker 3: film quality of the. Movie classic example THAT i recall
Speaker 3: is that the Movie, predator you, know the sci fi
Speaker 3: action Movie, schwarzenegger looks good on THE vhs. TAPE i
Speaker 3: think it even looked good on the FIRST dvd that came,
Speaker 3: Out BUT i recall at some point there was a
Speaker 3: blu ray of, it and it was just, like, oh
Speaker 3: this is not. Right it looked like waxy. Huh. INTERESTING
Speaker 3: i think sometimes it.
Speaker 2: Happens, yeah all, right, WELL i think we're going to
Speaker 2: go and close this episode out, here but we'd love
Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts on this movie Star wars in,
Speaker 2: general but certainly Other Star wars. Ripoffs what are your
Speaker 2: Favorite Star wars? Ripoffs what do you think about the
Speaker 2: esthetic qualities Of Star wars that tend to be reflected
Speaker 2: in these. Films all that's fair, game let us, know
Speaker 2: and next, WEEK i believe the plan is that we
Speaker 2: will continue and we'll finish our trilogy of Seventies florida.
Speaker 2: Movies so we'll still be in the nineteen seventies next
Speaker 2: time In Weirdow, cinema but we'll be looking at the
Speaker 2: film Shock, waves which interestingly, enough has A Star wars
Speaker 2: actor in.
Speaker 3: It it Has Peter. Cushion oh, well, Yeah so.
Speaker 2: If you want to watch, ahead here's a, rare a
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