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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And this is Joe McCormick, and it's Star Wars Clone

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Speaker 3: week here on Weird House Cinema. We just did a

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Speaker 3: week of regular episodes concerning Star Wars on Tuesday and Thursday,

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Speaker 3: and so we figured we would look into yet another

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Speaker 3: ripoff of the George Lucas classic Star Wars. This will

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Speaker 3: actually not even be the first Star Wars clone we're

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Speaker 3: doing on Weird House Cinema because a few months back

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Speaker 3: we watched Message from Space, which I absolutely adored. It was,

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Speaker 3: you know, like many movies of the late seventies, a

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Speaker 3: blatant ripoff of Star Wars, but it brought a lot

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Speaker 3: of its own weirdness and texture. I remember it had

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Speaker 3: some really beautiful, highly colorful costumes and great sets and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Today we're looking at a dirtier, dustier, more drab attempt

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Speaker 3: But this one's got a lot of pleasures of its own. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, but before we get into it, I do want

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Speaker 2: to speak just a little bit more about the idea

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Speaker 2: of the Star Wars ripoff, because there's kind of this,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost kind of like a wave effect

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Speaker 2: through cinema after Star Wars comes out, because the nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy seven original film that is often known today as

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Speaker 2: Star Wars a New Hope, you know, it really set

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Speaker 2: the world on fire. It created this global phenomenon. But

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Speaker 2: then it also it opened the door for various filmmakers

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Speaker 2: blatantly try and get in on the cash grab to

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Speaker 2: that Star Wars money.

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Speaker 3: Other times it.

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Speaker 2: Just allowed projects that would not have come to light

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Speaker 2: with the money realized, Hey, look at this. People are

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Speaker 2: lining up to see stuff that's fantastic, stuff that's got

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Speaker 2: you see this with other hits as well, Like you'll

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Speaker 2: see projects that that maybe at some point in their

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Speaker 3: Or you'll see a Star Wars.

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Speaker 2: The project that you know, has a lot of knockoff

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Speaker 2: elements in it, but then also some original ideas or

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Speaker 2: maybe ideas at least inspired by other properties in there.

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Speaker 2: So they're often really fun to look at because you

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Speaker 2: never know exactly what you're gonna find once you really

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Speaker 2: way through the initial like seaweed of just of just

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Speaker 2: perhaps the more original aspects of the picture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a few different things you can look

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Speaker 3: at here. I mean, one is, as you say, I

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Speaker 3: You know, the idea is, okay, plenty of people in

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Speaker 3: the feeling somebody was like, hey, what if we Star

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Speaker 3: example that I think of that we'll have several connections

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Speaker 3: to today's movie. Is the James Bond film Moonraker from

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine, starring Roger Moore, the driest and goobriest

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Speaker 2: Moonraker is a Bond film that there was a time

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Speaker 3: It is one of the most rewatchable of Bond films

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Speaker 3: I mean the earlier James Bond movies, you know, they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, brutal dog scenes. Michael Lonsdale, who I

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Speaker 2: movie that we're going to discuss today, because Michael Lonsdale

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Speaker 2: He's been in many films over the years, but he's

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Speaker 2: so low energy. There are times where I can't quite

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Speaker 2: what you said, Michael Lonsdale, but I love it. I

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, and it's like, what, I can't hear your

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, But to come back to what you were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's the caliber of film we're dealing

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Speaker 2: with today. It is nineteen seventy nine's the Humanoid?

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Speaker 3: The Humanoid?

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Speaker 2: Yes, the basic elevator pitch here is in an attempt

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Speaker 2: the basic plot, yeah, is not very Star Wars. And

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Speaker 3: What's it some of that trailer audio?

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Speaker 2: I'm the little option me only tend to see you.

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Speaker 3: Shut up all right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much we really got out of

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Speaker 3: maybe it's not original. I don't know. We'll we'll work

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Speaker 2: This is one of those films where it's it's I

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Speaker 3: the case of the Humanoid. Yeah. Now, as we get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of a fun exercise and looking

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Speaker 3: Okay, so who directed this?

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Speaker 2: All right, so this was directed by Aldo Laddo. Credited

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Speaker 2: And he also did an assortment of thrillers for TV

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Speaker 2: So apparently Zog Castellari did some uncredited directing on this.

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Speaker 2: Now he was born in nineteen thirty eight, still alive

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Speaker 3: Vic Morrow, who was in Message from Space.

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Speaker 2: and then he Castellaria also directed The Inglorious Bastards from

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Speaker 3: So Castellari has been mentioned on this show before because

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Speaker 3: where I think there was an extensive overlap with his

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Speaker 3: Now there's a term I'd never come across before, but

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Speaker 3: Him oh He's, Yeah i'd never seen him playing just

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Speaker 3: Spaceship he's quite. Likable actually he's. Not, again AS i was,

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Speaker 3: JOKING i, mean he's not somebody who has natural like screen,

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Speaker 2: Dude, yeah and we do have to against distress his

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Speaker 2: The bald guy's Since i've watched the guy who is

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Speaker 3: Pleasants sometimes He's Charles.

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Speaker 2: Gray oh, okay, well when he Was Charles Charles gray

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Speaker 3: Best the weird thing, IS i feel like how MUCH

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Speaker 3: i really like the silly. ONES i Like Donald, PLEASANCE

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Speaker 3: i Like Charles. GRAY i THINK i Like Telly. Savalis

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Speaker 3: Ones oh, well they Got Christoph waltz to Play, inspector

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Speaker 3: which would have been great casting if the role had been. Written,

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Speaker 3: well but that movie was just a snoozefest A. SPECTER

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Speaker 3: i don't know if you saw. IT i have never seen. It,

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Speaker 3: NO i found it incredibly, boring not very good at.

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Speaker 3: All but but But christoph fold's great casting choice if

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Speaker 3: you give him something interesting to.

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Speaker 2: Do. YEAH i haven't seen a New bond film Since Casino.

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Speaker 2: Royale OH i like that, One, yeah like. It mad's

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Speaker 3: That. Yeah my advice is stick with the odd. Numbers

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Speaker 3: Skip quantum Of, solace c Sky. Fall that one's. Good Skip. Specter,

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Speaker 2: Know of, course all of these, MOVIES i THINK i

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Speaker 2: rate you, know jaws't hasn't been around in A bond

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Speaker 2: JAWS i mean it's hard to. DO i, mean what

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Speaker 2: BUT i don't. Know the thing Is keel had that.

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Speaker 2: and people like. Him and he looks you, know he's

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Speaker 2: let's lean into. That let's have him fall in love

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Speaker 3: Ship. OH i, mean it's a classic evolution of a

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Speaker 3: MENACING i, mean he murders people in a way that

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Speaker 2: On, yeah why didn't he get a spin? Off that's

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Speaker 3: Me oh my, God Agent, jaws he, goes he goes

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Speaker 2: Neck, yeah maybe he could be double oh fourteen since

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Speaker 2: Good so, Anyway keel was in many other things as.

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Speaker 2: Well we already Mentioned IgA from sixty. Two he was

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Speaker 2: Oh. Yeah but he also did a ton OF tv,

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Speaker 3: SHOT i know he was cast in this, movie so

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Speaker 3: that is. Adorable, yeah, YEAH i love that robot.

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Speaker 2: who was born in nineteen fifty still alive as of this,

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Speaker 3: Gibson it's. GREAT i love how this movie has a

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Speaker 3: scene where a character Named Lord grawl sends his forces

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Speaker 3: to Kill Barbara. Gibson. Yeah it reminds me of When

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Speaker 3: Darth vader took out his lightsaber to go assassinate The

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Speaker 3: jedi Master Fred. Nelson.

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Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean this is not The lucas approach to naming.

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Speaker 2: OF o from nineteen seventy, five And You're The hunter

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Speaker 3: Three Your hunter from The future is an all time

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Speaker 3: great leather Diaper barbarian. Movie, yes, yeah and it will

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Speaker 3: Ripoff so it stars the guy From Space, mutiny Reb,

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Speaker 3: the leather diaper and running around like killing dinosaurs with a.

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Speaker 2: Right the next Character Leonard, mann who Plays nick born

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Speaker 2: Right Our Darth vader in this picture Is Lord, graul

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Speaker 2: played By Ivan rasimov who lived nineteen thirty eight through

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Speaker 2: lot of. Heavies he was In mario Bob those nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty five sci fi Classic planet of The. VAMPIRES i

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Speaker 2: Twist, YEAH i love the. Title it's slightly, nonsensical BUT

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Speaker 2: Don't Look, now Starring Julie christy And Donald. Sutherland that

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Speaker 3: Here that one's like very weird but also like, deep

432
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 3: emotionally powerful. Dark, yeah that one's don't screw around with that,

433
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: One like put yourself in the right state of mind

434
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 3: if you're gonna watch.

435
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: It, Okay now the next actor and the next character.

436
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: Here this is very pretty exciting because it's a very

437
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: esteemed actor kind of slumming it, UP i, guess you,

438
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: know collecting a paycheck in This Italian Star wars. Film

439
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: the actor Is Author kennedy and he plays our second tier,

440
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,959
Speaker 2: villain our mad scientist, villain Doctor.

441
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: Craspin Arthur kennedy is fantastic in. This you can tell

442
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: he like all of the roles in this. Film it's,

443
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 3: underwritten but you can tell he is doing his best

444
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: to chew the, scenery even though there's not a whole

445
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: lot to chew.

446
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,719
Speaker 2: On, yeah in a film that is just packed with

447
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: low energy, performances you, know and you, know poor writing

448
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: and just this stuff that just falls, Flat, Yeah kennedy

449
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: brings the most energy to his. Performance at, times he's

450
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 2: he's snarling like a mad, dog and it really stands

451
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: out on a picture again where everybody else is really

452
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: almost quelutic in their.

453
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: Performance. YEAH i would say one of the main characteristics

454
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 3: of the acting in this film is that it's almost

455
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: as if the, director you, know you've heard the story

456
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: that What George lucas would say to people on the

457
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 3: set Of Star wars was like, faster, louder more intense

458
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 3: in their line. Deliveries in this, case the director was

459
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: just always telling, PEOPLE i don't want you to emphasize

460
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: any particular word in the. Sentence they should all sound

461
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: exactly the.

462
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: Same, Yeah, yeah like bring it down a.

463
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 3: Notch. Yeah.

464
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: So Arthur Kennedy american act of stage and screen who

465
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: won a nineteen forty Nine Tony award for his role

466
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: in the original stage production Of Arthur Miller's death of A. Salesman.

467
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: Wow he was a five Time oscar. Nominee he was

468
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 2: in such major films of the nineteen, forties, fifties and

469
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 2: sixties As lawrence Of, Arabia Bright, Victory Peyton, place And.

470
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: Champion this was only this is just one of the

471
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 2: last four films he did at the very end of his,

472
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 2: career but he had had a pretty long. History NOW

473
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: i don't know how how well he is remembered by

474
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: today's movie going, audience like especially if you look at

475
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: The oscars he was nominated. For he lost in all

476
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: those cases to actors WHO i think had more star

477
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: power and more staying, power at least in the public.

478
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: Memory but he was a real, talent and again he

479
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: is just clearly light years ahead of any other actor

480
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,239
Speaker 2: in this.

481
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: Film agreed a good casting.

482
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: DECISION i did read that they initially Wanted Donald pleasants

483
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: for this. Role, Yeah pleasants would have been perfect for this.

484
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 2: Role he was in a lot of other you, know

485
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: international pictures, though where he played this sort of, thing

486
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: like the evil guy in a funny. Costume, oh but he.

487
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: Would have been absolutely on tone for the rest of

488
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: the acting in this film Because Donald. Pleasants one of

489
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: the weird things about him is that he has striking

490
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: monotone delivery so, often.

491
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: Yeah almost almost. Always it's. Rare there are some, there

492
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: there are some films you'll find where he plays a

493
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: more high energy. Character but, generally, yeah he. Was he

494
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: was very much in That Michael lonsdale school of low key,

495
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: performance but.

496
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: In a different with the kind of more nasal. VERSION

497
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: i remember the main line of his that illustrates this

498
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: is In escape From New york when he plays The

499
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: president of The United states and he gets into that

500
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: escape pod egg to get out of his airplane and

501
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: he says something, like May god have messy on you? All.

502
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah he always good in that, One so, yeah he would.

503
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 3: Have he would have been right on the same page

504
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: with all the other actors in. This but NOW i

505
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: think it's good that they Got Arthur. Kennedy he mixes it.

506
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 3: Up you get the sense That Arthur kennedy can like

507
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: tell a part the different parts of speech in a

508
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: sentence when he says them it's. Nice.

509
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: Yes now his character has sort of a companion. Villain

510
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: we'll get into the details in a. Bit Lady agatha

511
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 2: played By Barbara bach in forty. Seven this was the

512
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: bond girl from The Spy Who Loved me from seventy, seven.

513
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: Right she plays A soviet spy who comes up Against

514
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: Roger moore In The Spy Who Loved. Me The Spy

515
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: Loved me is a little. BIT i, mean all The

516
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: Roger moore movies are. Goofy The Spy Love me is

517
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 3: a little bit less goofy Than, Moonraker and so there's

518
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: some spy versus spy action In The Spy Who Loved?

519
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: Me where she's the she sort of starts off as a.

520
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: Villain then of course they end up falling in, love

521
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: as always. Happens BUT i recall her being actually pretty

522
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: good in That bond. Movie in, THIS i, mean she's

523
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: great in the role because she like wears these these

524
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: unbelievable wigs well and. Stuff BUT i gotta, say abs

525
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: like the flattest DELIVERY i have ever heard of any

526
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: line delivery at all in this, film.

527
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: Right so it basically it fits the tapestry of this.

528
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: Movie. Well, yeah but she.

529
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: Was in a lot of things back in the. Day

530
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: she was In Sergio Martino screamers from nineteen seventy nine

531
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: That i've mentioned several times, Here Forced ten From navarone

532
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: from seventy, eight and also a film THAT i think

533
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: you have told me, About Joe, Black belly of The

534
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: tarantula from nineteen seventy.

535
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: One oh, yeah that's Another jallo. Movie it's one of these,

536
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 3: slashery Trashy italian murder. Mysteries but this one has a

537
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: really good. Cast she HAS i think a smaller part in.

538
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: It the main character in that one is actually played

539
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: By Giancarlo jannini and he's. Wonderful.

540
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: Now a bit character in, this And i'm just gonna

541
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: mention quickly is Hal, yamanucci who was born in nineteen forty,

542
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: six A japanese born actor who plays just humanoid soldier in.

543
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: This so it's a very bit. Part but this is

544
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: an actor that shows up in a ton Of italian

545
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: and international. Pictures he's also been in such films As The,

546
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: Wolverine The, Life, Aquatic zoolander. Two he's been in over

547
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: one hundred films and was in several films from the

548
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: likes Of Sergio martino And Zog. Castellari he began his

549
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: career as a. Mime he translated and Dubbed japanese language

550
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: films Into, italian and he was even In Stuart Gordon's

551
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: Robot jocks from nineteen, ninety, which to remind everybody our

552
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: favorite battling robots film here. WAS i believe it was

553
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: at least An italian co.

554
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 3: Production oh, OKAY i had forgotten that fact about. It.

555
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: NOW i was not on the lookout for howl in,

556
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: this so where do you remember what part of the

557
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: movie he shows.

558
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: UP i never saw, him or if he showed, UP

559
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: i missed. Him he might have been in one of

560
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: those fabulous sort of stormtrooper costumes that we. See i'm

561
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: not entirely sure about, that, okay but he has a

562
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: very distinctive. Face so you can look up ON IMDb

563
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: and you might well recognize him and, go, oh, guy,

564
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah i've seen.

565
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: Him thanks for. Sure i'll have to look him up after.

566
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: This, now we Mentioned you're The hunter from The future,

567
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: earlier and the director of, That Antonio, margaretti was the

568
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: special effects supervisor in this.

569
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: Film now that would make sense of something THAT i

570
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: caught here BECAUSE i was watching this movie AND i

571
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: noticed a reused. Costume humanoid has costume overlap with Your

572
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: hunter from The. Future, now AS i, Mentioned your is

573
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: a very strange movie because it it's you, know it's

574
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: Put genres in a particle collider where it's Part conan

575
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: The barbarian with Reb brown From Space mutiny Playing conan

576
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: but like less. Smart and then the villain is just

577
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: straight Up Darth, vader and he has stormtroopers who work for,

578
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: him and so the stormtroopers who work for The Darth

579
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: vader In your where the exact same costumes as some

580
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: of the stormtroopers in this. Movie And i've attached some

581
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: pictures for you to look, At, rob so you can

582
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: se That i'm telling the.

583
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: TRUTH, YEP i looked at these, earlier and it is

584
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: the same, costume if or at least the same, mask

585
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: mostly the same.

586
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: COSTUME i. THINK i don't know if i'd actually recommend

587
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: people try to Watch your BUT i would recommend everyone

588
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: listen to the theme song of Your hunter from The, Future.

589
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: Seth can we get a little clip of? That those

590
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: are the sounds of yours.

591
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: World, well since we're talking about, music let's talk about

592
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: the music in this, film because this may come as

593
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: a shock given everything that we, Said but the score

594
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: for The humanoid is by none other Than Ineo Morricone Indio.

595
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: Morricone Has is it? Okay? ROB i feel like you're

596
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: you're SOMEBODY i respect your like all encompassing enthusiasm for

597
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: electronically based, music because it seems to me usually if

598
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: a movie score is, electronic you're gonna give it a

599
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: lot of, latitude and you're you're giving yourself space to love.

600
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: It AND i appreciate that about. YOU I i wanted

601
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: to love, this BECAUSE i do Love Anyo. Morriconi BUT

602
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: i thought the music in this movie was. Terrible it

603
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: had that that that theme that kept playing over and

604
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: over that sounded, LIKE i don't, know it sounded like

605
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: like the trophy ceremony music at The olympics or, something

606
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: but but synthed.

607
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: UP I i readily admit that the music in this

608
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: is kind of all over the, place but there but

609
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: The cynthia parts of, it WHICH i think we're gonna

610
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: play a sample off here in a. Minute The cynthier

611
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: parts of it really struck a chord with, me in

612
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: part because they remind me a lot of some elements

613
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: that pop up in the early work of the electronic

614
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: Duo boards Of, Canada, oh particularly some stuff on music

615
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: has A right To children there they're their classic. Album

616
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: AND i actually went down a rabbit hole of like

617
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: listening back To boards Of canada tracks BECAUSE i was

618
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: curd BECAUSE i also was, like, well maybe it was

619
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: a mix or some of their very early, stuff like

620
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: maybe they actually utilized a sample from this. SCORE i

621
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: know THAT i know they were inspired by a lot

622
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: of different elements AND i Imagine morricconi was in the

623
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: mix for them as far AS i can, tell, Though,

624
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: yeah there are just some things that kind of sound

625
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: similar in some boards Of canada. FILMS i don't know

626
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: if it's a direct connection there or they were kind

627
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: of breathing the same synthetic, ambiance but it does remind

628
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: me a lot of some moments in boards Of canada's.

629
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: Work there's even some visual tie, in because toward the

630
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: end of the movie there's a part WHERE i was

631
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: enjoying the cheesy synth score and they were like flying

632
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: off into the sunset with the color scheme that looked

633
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: very much like boards Of canada. Art.

634
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah so now that we're talking about, it let's

635
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: go ahead and have just a sample from this Seth

636
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: this would be the. Track this Is infansia evolutione E Ritorno. Ritorno,

637
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: yes this is off the soundtrack for The Humanoid Buy. Morricone,

638
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: SEE i really like. THAT i think, THAT i, say

639
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: it strikes a chord with me and, okay, okay it

640
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: that the little ditty that we heard there is probably

641
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: like responsible for seventy five percent of my enjoyment of this.

642
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: Film, WELL i want to meet you halfway on this

643
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: because WHILE i do still think the music was surprisingly,

644
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: TERRIBLE i mean any of. More connie is an amazing film.

645
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: COMPOSER i mean he did the, Film he did the

646
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: music For The, thing, which like Several carpenter. MOVIES i,

647
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: Mean John carpenter is a great, director but he has

648
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: a number of movies that in a way are just

649
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: made by the. Score you, know like his own score

650
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: for For, HALLOWEEN i think makes the. Movie you take

651
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: that music out of the, movie the movie isn't half as.

652
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: GOOD i, mean it's still, good but you, know that's

653
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: what pushes it over the. Edge similar thing For morconi's

654
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: music In The, thing like that Dunt dune thing that

655
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 3: drives the feeling of the. Movie it defines the whole. Tone, yeah, yeah.

656
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely another couple Of Morricone and again there's so Many

657
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: morricone SCORES i think HE i mean it, WAS i

658
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: think it's hundreds of things that he. Did as four

659
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: hundred scores on the big and small. SCREEN i believe

660
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 2: it's the NUMBER i, saw but a couple that really stand.

661
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: Out you have The, good The, bad And ugly from

662
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty, six just really iconic, work and then nineteen eighty.

663
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: Six the nineteen eighty six Film The, mission which is

664
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: a beautiful and, tragedy just a wonderful. Film probably it

665
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: got to be one of my top like serious motion.

666
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: Pictures, OH i don't Think i've ever seen that.

667
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: One, oh it Has Jeremy, irons it Has robert De,

668
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 2: niro and it's about missionaries In South america and It's,

669
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: yeah it's a beautiful tragic. Story and it has this beautiful.

670
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: SCORE i, mean The mission sound the score By marconi

671
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: is just absolutely. Breathtaking you've probably heard something from, it and,

672
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: YEAH i can't do it. JUSTICE i can't properly explain.

673
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: It But The mission is a wonderful movie and the

674
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: soundtrack is.

675
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: Amazing, okay, well WELL i owe you watching that. One

676
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: BUT i also SAID i was going to meet you

677
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: halfway about The morricone, score which is. Good WHILE i

678
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: don't REALLY i don't think the movie is well served

679
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: by the melodies composed as like full music pieces this,

680
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: MOVIE i do like the individual, sounds AND i can

681
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 3: see how the sounds from the score of this movie

682
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: could be well used as samples in electronic. Music.

683
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah and apparently it has resonated. THERE i was

684
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: reading that the two in two thousand and, three The

685
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: german electronic Group Computer jockeys one, word not a GROUP

686
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: i was familiar, with but they apparently did a reworking

687
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: of the TRACK A man In space from the score

688
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: for this.

689
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: Movie you. Know we were also looking at a very

690
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: odd website that IS i don't know how exactly to describe.

691
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: It it's like a fan website for The humanoid and

692
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: For Richard keel that was looks like it was made

693
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety, eight.

694
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah and hasn't Seen it doesn't seem to have, changed

695
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: WHICH i, love SO i do recommend checking that.

696
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: Out what's the web address for? That, okay so we

697
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: just had to look it. Up It's golob The Humanoid

698
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: Glob Golob theehumanoid dot com and it has a page on.

699
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 3: It it's all about like music that has been made

700
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: as like popfan music about the. Humanoid so they've got

701
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: one song on there that you can download by a

702
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 3: band Called ganymede THAT i was not otherwise familiar, with

703
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: but it's about the, humanoid AND i think there's other music,

704
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: Too so The, humanoid you, know it really gets under people's.

705
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: Skin it, inspires it makes, it you, know gets those

706
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: creative juices.

707
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 2: Flowing you're, right it's just an inspiring motion.

708
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: Picture can you, guess, Listener can you guess how this movie?

709
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 3: Begins what we see on the screen at the beginning

710
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: of the. Film could it be that there is a

711
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: starfield with some nebulae in the, background and then a

712
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: text crawl that rolls from the bottom of the screen

713
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: to the. Top it's, true that is how it, starts

714
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: and so what we get is a text scrawl WITH

715
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: i can't remember is it narrated AS i think it,

716
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: is BECAUSE i think the text is actually In italian

717
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 3: and gets narrated In. English so we get it read

718
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: to us and we Hear, metropolis known ages ago as

719
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: Planet earth now faces its gravest. Hour Lord grawl has

720
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 3: just escaped from the prison satellite where his, brother ruler

721
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: of the peaceful galactic, democracy had exiled. Him malevolent and power,

722
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: Hungry grawl has plans of vengeance that might forever alter

723
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: the destiny of. Mankind very, good BECAUSE i love how

724
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: it starts with the prison, satellite as if you already

725
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: know what that.

726
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: Is you, know it's also telling that because you know

727
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: from the very beginning In Star, wars when the text

728
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: moves across the, screen we already have a sense of

729
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: a large, universe you, know and not all the details

730
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 2: are filled. In there's a lot of stuff that is developed,

731
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: later but we get the idea that this is an,

732
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: expansive fantastic. World and in this picture we already get

733
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: an idea of a small. World like everything feels small

734
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: despite Its star. Warsiness that's a very good.

735
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: POINT i, mean, yeah just the text In Star wars

736
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: makes you feel like the galaxy is, big a lot

737
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: of stuff is, happening and we're coming in right in

738
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: the middle of. Things this text suggests this world is,

739
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: boring not much is, happening and we're starting here at

740
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: the beginning before four things even really ramp.

741
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: Up, yeah and our fantastic location in space Is earth

742
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: in the.

743
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: Future. Yeah like the way things start in this movie

744
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: is not with crisis but with peaceful galactic, democracy and

745
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 3: the opening text tells you there's a guy who's maybe

746
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: about to mess that. Up but of, course right at

747
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: the beginning we get spaceships, zooming because again this is

748
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: A Star wars, ripoff AND i will say more so

749
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: Than message From space or Even Star. Crash those are

750
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: Both Star wars clones that we've talked about before and

751
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: have their own. Charms this movie does way more direct

752
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: ripping off of set pieces From Star. Wars just blatant

753
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: ripoffs of shots and sets and costumes from the.

754
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: Movie, yeah like A message From, space the star the,

755
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: starships they all they all look different and they had

756
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: kind of a cool, look and the models were very well.

757
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: Done but, man this is just like a straight Up

758
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: Star destroyer In, yes.

759
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: This one just starts with The Star destroyer sliding in

760
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: right over the, camera like the opening shot Of Star. Wars.

761
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: YEAH i know that shot gets copied in a lot of,

762
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: movies but this one is the most blatant That i've ever.

763
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: Seen, yeah it's about as spot on as you could

764
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: get without just actually.

765
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: Using a model of A Star destroyer or or just

766
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: ripping the. Footage, yeah and the model they use is close,

767
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: enough like you, know if you were, squinting you might mistake. It,

768
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah and so you, know we get The Star destroyer coming.

769
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: IN i think we're to assume already That Lord grawl

770
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: is on this. SHIP i don't know why we know,

771
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: that but that's just, implied and, okay, yeah we get.

772
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 3: It Darth vader was on The Star. Destroyer Lord grawl's

773
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: on this. Thing and we see a smaller ship approach

774
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: The Star. Destroyer it looks like it's some space cops or,

775
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: something and they radio and they're, like, hey who are,

776
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: you what's? Up and then The Star destroyer just annihilates

777
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: it blasts, it and then we get the monologue Of

778
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: Lord grawl before we see. Him we hear. HIM i

779
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: guess he's like talking in his. Head he, goes those

780
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: pilots were, sheep not. Soldiers my brother has made his

781
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: army bloated with, peace.

782
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: You.

783
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: Know and this reminds me there are actually people who

784
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: have had mentalities like this in history that, like you,

785
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: know war is what makes people strong and peace makes people.

786
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: Soft it's even Infected american thinking at. TIMES i think

787
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: Unfortunately Teddy roosevelt at some points in his life was

788
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: somewhat susceptible to this kind of, thinking, like, oh you

789
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: need a good war to make your culture. Strong and

790
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: this Is graul's philosophy as. Well, yes yes it. Is

791
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: but then we see him and oh my, god This Darth, vader,

792
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: Dude Lord GRAWL i don't even know where to. Start

793
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: he's got belts over his, face and so it's not

794
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: a Full Darth vader. Mask it is A Darth vader

795
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: helmet and Like Darth, vader kind of black leathery looking

796
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: shoulder pads and the rest of the suit is Very vader,

797
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: esque but instead of the robot face Of, vader we

798
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: get a crucifix of black belts over the.

799
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: Face, yeah this Discount Darth vader, COSTUME i, think in

800
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: many ways helps illustrate just how well the Actual Darth

801
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: vader costume was designed and brought to. Life for, Instance

802
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: Darth vader's helmet contains elements of the skull of a,

803
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: samurai heilm of an, insect of a, robot but it

804
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: hits all of these notes in ways that don't overwhelm,

805
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: you you, know like there's a perfect alchemy to the

806
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: way these elements come together In Darth vader's, helmet and

807
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: that's why it's become this just iconic. Symbol but this

808
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: Design grawl's, outfit it leans way too heavily on first

809
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: of all the samurai, Motifs like it's clearly just a

810
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 2: just a shiny samurai helmet that you, know they painted.

811
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: Black and then he.

812
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: Has that weird face shackle across his face that kind

813
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: of looks like it's it kind of looks like he's

814
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: a punishment you, know like, yes like they've put his

815
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: face in a gibbet or thel.

816
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: He got into the cookie jar and they're like put

817
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: on the punishment.

818
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: Helmet, yeah like it has that man in the iron

819
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: mask kind of a feel to.

820
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 3: It it just it just comes, off is. Weird Lord

821
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: grawl is, sorry CAN i take the belts? Off so

822
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: they're Approaching, metropolis, which as we've already been, told is Planet.

823
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: EARTH i guess it's Just earth in the, future and

824
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: Barth quator here sends out an attack ship that is

825
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: piloted by a guy in a your, helmet you know

826
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: the ones that are also in your and he, says he,

827
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: says make sure there are no, survivors especially That Barbara.

828
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: Gibson so, YEAH i just love. It Lord grawl has

829
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: put a hit On Barbara. Gibson, Yeah Barbara. Gibson and

830
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: then we Meet Barbara gibson and this Is Koreean. Clary

831
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: she's working at a place called The. Institute The institute

832
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: is one of those places from you know seventies and

833
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: eighties sci fi movies where everybody wears kind of billowy.

834
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: CLOTHES i don't know what you call the texture of that,

835
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: fabric but you, know it's Like Princess leah's. Dress everybody's

836
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: just dressed like, that and it's on a planet THAT

837
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: i think is supposed to look like From Star. Wars

838
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: this is another one of the things that we should

839
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: get into this in more depth as we go. On

840
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: but LIKE i was interested, In, okay when movies are

841
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: trying to rip Off Star, wars what are the elements

842
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 3: they rip? Off because they don't usually copy the overall

843
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: story structure or anything like. That instead they copy specific

844
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: esthetic elements Like Darth vader's suit and the desert Planet.

845
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 3: Tattooine all of These Star wars ripoffs have a desert

846
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: planet like this with white earthen.

847
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: Buildings, yeah AND i think so if memory SERVES i

848
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: don't have the figures in front of me, here BUT

849
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: i believe they filmed this In, italy but also a

850
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 2: little bit In, Israel So i'm not sure in any

851
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: of these desert, scenes if we're looking at At italian

852
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: landscape or we're looking at At Middle eastern.

853
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: Landscape BUT i would guess this Is, Israel, okay.

854
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: BUT i will say these are neat, locations you, know

855
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: they they look interesting and they feel they kind of

856
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: feel suitably, alien even if we're not actually on an

857
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: alien world if this is Just. Earth BUT i liked it.

858
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: ENOUGH i was wondering, Though so it's an. Institute what

859
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: do they study at this? Institute? Everything, yeah, Everything, okay

860
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: it's the place of. Knowledge and So Barbara gibson is

861
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: hanging out at work and then she gets a video

862
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: call from a child who pops up on the video.

863
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: Screen we learned that the child's name Is Tom, tom

864
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: And Tom tom tells her that she must leave the

865
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: institute and come home at. Once and so you, think,

866
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: okay how is he going to convince her to? Leave

867
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: but he doesn't need to do any. Convincing it's almost

868
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 3: like the video call the child hypnotizes her with like

869
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: secret magic, words and then she just robotically in a trance,

870
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: state walks out of work and goes. Home so immediately

871
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: we know that That Tom tom there's something up with,

872
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: him like he's got.

873
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 2: Powers, yeah this is, Yeah Tom tom as a magical,

874
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: Child AND i Like Tom Tom Tom tom has a

875
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: cool energy about. Him whenever he's he seems in control

876
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: the whole. Time he's never really in peril in a

877
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: way that made me feel. Uncomfortable so, Yeah i'm a big.

878
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: Fan oh were you kind of The Gene sisco school

879
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: that you don't like it when a movie puts a

880
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: child in?

881
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: DANGER i not, necessarily BUT i do find in some

882
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: films that a child is put in danger in a

883
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: way that the acting is a little too. Real oh,

884
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't, know and not a way that That

885
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: i'm like completely like taken out of the viewing experience per.

886
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: Se BUT i have seen particularly Some italian horror films

887
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: Where i'm, like, oh, MAN i think that.

888
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 3: Child was really.

889
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: Terrified oh AND i don't. KNOW i just really Liked

890
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: Tam tam here AND i didn't WANT i didn't want

891
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: anything bad to happen to. Him but luckily he's super.

892
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: Chill he's not worried about, it SO i be worried

893
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: about it.

894
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: Either, yeah he never seems upset a single bit in this.

895
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: Movie he is like amazingly. Calm he has clearly mastered

896
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 3: some some techniques of emotional CAN i believe so immediately

897
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: After Barbara gibson leaves the, institute there's just a stormtrooper.

898
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 3: Attack they wander through blasting everything that. Moves they kill,

899
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: everybody and they steal some mcguffin from inside the vault

900
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: at the institute that is called The. Capitron AND i

901
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: was just, thinking, like why does this sound so, familiar

902
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i thought on a previous episode Of Weird House,

903
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: cinema we have discussed a mcguffin from a movie that

904
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: sounded like the dental device called a. Cavitron it's not

905
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 3: ringing a.

906
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: BELL i, mean capatron sounds like it should be some

907
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: sort of synthesizer from the late nineteen, seventies but it's.

908
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 3: Not And Anio morricone on The. Capitron but the lead

909
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 3: stormtrooper has to go back and report to Barth quader

910
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: That Barbara gibson was not at the institute when they,

911
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: arrived and then Barth quader punishes. Him he's, like you

912
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: are stripped of your privileges for one hun hundred. Days

913
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: and THEN i was, like, ooh what are these? Privileges

914
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: we're going to learn something about stormtroopers. Society what special

915
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: privileges do they? Get and what is the punishment when

916
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: they're stripped of? Them but then. Nothing we never learned

917
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: what that, means.

918
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: Like is it are the toilet privileges or is it

919
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: or is it something like really nice like you don't

920
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: get to play The xbox or something that is there

921
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: for the. Stormtroopers you, Know i'm not sure how much

922
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: this hurt.

923
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: Him clearly it was not The stormtrooper's. Fault The Barbara

924
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 3: gibson was not at the. Institute Tom tom got ahead

925
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: of them and he had no way of controlling. That

926
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: BUT i think this is to show us That Lord

927
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: grawl is, Unfair like he doesn't care if the reason

928
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: you failed was actually your. Fault he'll take away your

929
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 3: privileges for one hundred days. Anyway, yeah he's a terrible.

930
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: Boss so then we go back to The Barbara gibson

931
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: And tom tomhouse And Tom tom is just wiping the

932
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: floor with her at some kind of strategy. Game it

933
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: looks like it's battleship or, something or chess on a

934
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: computer in some, way and they talk about how even

935
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: the computer can't beat, him and then she's, like where

936
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: do you come? From and he, SAYS i come from

937
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: a place far far away Where i've learned very. Much

938
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: and my real name means Great ocean of, wisdom and

939
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: so it. Is so he's not like her, child he

940
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: is her. PUPIL i think she's a teacher and she's teaching,

941
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: him but what is she teaching? Him he already appears

942
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: to know.

943
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: Everything, yeah he is an all powerful space. Child, Yeah

944
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: and you, know that's that's basically all you need to

945
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: know about. It and, honestly the movie gives us very

946
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: little else in the way of.

947
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: Answers but then we meet some more. Characters we're going

948
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: to get into the politics of this. World so we

949
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: meet a guy Named Great, brother which is pretty close

950
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 3: To Big, brother but they say he's the leader of

951
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: The Utopian order Of. Earth and you, know an alternate

952
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: way of reading this film is that Actually earth is

953
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 3: not a. Utopia it is An orwellian nightmare state under

954
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 3: the control Of Great. Brother and the movie is just

955
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 3: like it happens to be written By Inner party members

956
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 3: that are loyal To Great. Brother and in, Fact Lord

957
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: graul is the good. Guy he's like the he's being

958
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: held up as The Emmanuel goldstein of this world so

959
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: that all of our heroes can have a two minutes

960
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: haite against, him but, No instead we Meet Great brother

961
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: and he's, like he's chatting with this young guy Named,

962
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: nick who is some kind of soldier And. METROPOLIS i

963
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 3: think he's the young hunk of the. Movie he's supposed

964
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: to Be Han solo, basically but far less, interesting dopier

965
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: and mopier with longer curly. Hair and they talk about

966
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: the theft of The capatron. Device Great brother, says if

967
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: word gets, out there will be a. Panic why would that, be,

968
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: well he. Explains he, says it was the discovery of

969
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: the most ingenious scientists That metropolis has had in this,

970
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: century Doctor. Craspin it has the power to modify a

971
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: man's cell structure and transmute him into some sort of

972
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 3: monstrosity with superhuman. Powers and So nick, asks, well why

973
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 3: was the institute create a monstrosity beam And Great brother,

974
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 3: SAYS i don't remember exactly what he. SAID i, mean,

975
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: basically seems, like Well craspin had, tenure you, know he

976
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 3: could do what he, wanted but somebody sniffed him. Out

977
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: the person who learned what he was doing Was Dunda

978
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 3: Da Da Barbara. Gibson Once Barbara gibson got on his.

979
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: Trail everybody found out his evil, plans and he was

980
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: arrested because she tattled To Big, brother and The capatron was.

981
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: Confiscated but now it's been stolen and nobody knows where

982
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: Doctor craspin, is so there's definitely trouble. Afoot and So

983
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: nick is given a. Mission Big brother tells, him you

984
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: need to go Find Barbara, gibson SO i think he

985
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 3: calls her Miss, gibson so you can Find craspin and

986
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: save the. Planet and this part really made. IT i

987
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: laughed out loud here because there's no refusing the. Call

988
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 3: there's No luke, saying you, know it's so far away from,

989
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: here what CAN i? Do No Han solo saying you,

990
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 3: know that's not bravery, kid it's more like sue. Side

991
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: nick just says like all, right, boss.

992
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah and this brings this brings us back to some

993
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: of the points we're making about About Star wars copies

994
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: And Star wars. Rebuffs they they'd certainly go for the.

995
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: Esthetics they go for these elements like desert planets and

996
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: stormtroopers and laser. Guns maybe if they have the budget for,

997
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: it they'll throw in some droids and some. Aliens But

998
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: the thing that they never copy is they never copy

999
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: the hero's. Journey they never get into the mythological underpinnings

1000
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: that were that are so central To lucas's. Creations so

1001
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: there's there's never the hero of a thousand. Faces there's

1002
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: never any connection to the er. Myth you, know that's

1003
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: always what is.

1004
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: Missing, yeah the ripping off is of the most superficial.

1005
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: Elements, yeah and, ULTIMATELY i mean that's if you if

1006
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: you just get those superficial, Elements, yeah you don't Have

1007
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 4: Star wars because one of the things that always worked

1008
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 4: in The Star wars films is that you had that

1009
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 4: that mythological skeleton to the thing that was propelling things.

1010
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: Along oh, yeah. Totally but, HEY i know a way

1011
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 3: to fix the hollowness of this, story which is Introduce

1012
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: Richard keel and a cute. Robot, finally that's immediately what happens,

1013
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: Next and thank god we got, here because up to

1014
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: this point the movie is rather. Dull.

1015
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: YEAH i was having a very hard time paying attention

1016
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: to anything in this film until Finally Richard keele and

1017
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 2: the robot dogs show, up and then suddenly it's kind

1018
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 2: of interesting And i'm Like, Okay i'm beginning to see

1019
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 2: where we're going.

1020
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 3: Here. Yeah, Yeah So Richard keel is cruising in space

1021
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: in his spaceship and he encounters some kind of. Problem

1022
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 3: he's trying to Contact. Metropolis they're not getting back to.

1023
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: Him his ship's breaking. Down. Oh his character's name is

1024
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 3: Go law But, golob and he's just generally having a hard.

1025
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 3: Time and then we see him take out his frustrations

1026
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: on his adorable robot, Dog. Kip he's, Like, Kip i'm

1027
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: mad at, you but then he immediately feels bad about,

1028
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 3: it And kip is just the cutest. Thing this movie.

1029
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 3: SUCCEEDS i, Mean kip is not as effective emotional as

1030
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: The droids And Star wars. Are it doesn't have as

1031
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: much personality AS r TWO d, Two but because they

1032
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: went with with robot dog instead of just general, robot

1033
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: it gets automatic mileage out of dog.

1034
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: Similarities, yeah and it. Is it is very cute in

1035
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: a kind of kind of analog.

1036
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: Way you.

1037
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: Know it's like, this it's a dog made out of

1038
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: keyboard parts and.

1039
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: Stuff.

1040
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah SO i enjoyed all the scenes Involving Richard keele's

1041
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: character and the robot.

1042
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 3: Dog me, too AND i laughed out loud when the

1043
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: robot dog extended its telescoping antenna tail and wagged. It

1044
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: BUT i feel like this is sort of where the

1045
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 3: movie really picks, up when we Meet Richard keel and

1046
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 3: when we start meeting more of the bad. Guys, so,

1047
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,959
Speaker 3: Yeah Richard keel is, fun the robot dog is, great

1048
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: and so they're flying around in. Space but then we

1049
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 3: cut to the evil enemy base on a planet Called Planet,

1050
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: knoxun which outside looks exactly the is the other. Planet

1051
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 3: it's just a. Desert.

1052
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 2: YEAH i WHEN i watched, IT i thought they Said,

1053
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 2: Nixon SO i was, like the Planet. Nixon that's, great

1054
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: that's a perfect evil planet for the late nineteen.

1055
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 3: Seventies, YEAH i mean it's pretty. Close but here we

1056
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 3: meet another. Villain It's Barbara bach and the first thing

1057
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: you will notice about her is that she's wearing an

1058
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 3: absolutely astounding. Wig it's kind of hair, metal but it's

1059
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: it's also something else that you've just never seen on a.

1060
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: Human the wig she's wearing is at the same time

1061
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 3: hair and a hood and a.

1062
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: Helmet, yeah, yeah it's it's it's interesting, looking but you,

1063
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: know she's.

1064
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: She's a very stylish.

1065
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: Lady she's, uh you, know she's able to pull it off, somehow,

1066
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: somehow this doesn't look completely goofy on.

1067
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 3: Her so like the front of this hair looks like

1068
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 3: the McDonald's, Arches like it goes up on each side

1069
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 3: and then comes, down and it's kind of fluffy in the,

1070
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: front which makes it look like a you, know fur

1071
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: lined hood on a. Jacket but then behind, that the

1072
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 3: hair suddenly turns rigid and flat and it's like A

1073
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: Darth vader helmet on the, back but it's. Hair, Yeah

1074
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: and she's wearing a really funny dress with like a

1075
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: riveted metal. Neckline all the bad guys in this were

1076
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 3: stuff with riveted metal hymns on. It and it's pretty

1077
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: much immediately clear that what we're dealing with With barbara

1078
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 3: bak here is a space bathory because we get her

1079
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 3: and she's meeting with Doctor, craspin who remember the scientist

1080
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: who made The capatron who, Escaped and what they're doing

1081
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 3: when we first meet them is they put some poor

1082
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: woman into a plastic iron maiden that jabs her with

1083
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: a million hypodermic needles and it sucks out her life.

1084
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: Force And barbara back is just like, yes, yes.

1085
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah it's kind of a horrific. Scene it's also the

1086
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: only scene like the scene that has any nudity in,

1087
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 2: it because the woman they.

1088
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: Put into The Iron maiden is. Nude, yeah it's very

1089
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 3: strange because otherwise this could be a kid's, movie but

1090
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: then there's just unseen like ten seconds long that has

1091
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 3: nudity and brutal, violence and then if you were to

1092
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: just remove those ten, seconds it's a kids. Movie.

1093
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Absolutely so it's totally weird that we suddenly go

1094
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: to this place and then we then we're back into

1095
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: everything that's come before.

1096
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: Totally but SO i think we figure out what's going

1097
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 3: on here is that they are extracting the, fluids like

1098
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: it's Like Elizabeth, bathory you, know they're draining the liquids

1099
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 3: out of the local peasant girls so That Lady agatha

1100
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 3: here played By Barbara, back can can use this life

1101
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 3: force of these other women to stay young. Forever but doctor, Craspin,

1102
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: oh and this is a system that has been designed

1103
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 3: by Doctor, craspan much To Barbara back's, liking but he

1104
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: has to warn. Her he says science may have conquered,

1105
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: age but it will never succeed in conquering, death and

1106
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: for some reason she's mad at. HIM i don't remember.

1107
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: Why she starts kind of sniping at, him but Then

1108
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 3: craspin is very smooth that deflecting. Hers he, says don't

1109
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: you trust, Me Lady, agatha DON'T i give you daily.

1110
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: Doses you haven't aged one minute since you've been. Here

1111
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: AND i, thought would you normally notice having aged one minute.

1112
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: During the early parts of this, FILM i would, say,

1113
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: yes you definitely feel those minutes go.

1114
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: By but, yeah they're talking about it like people can

1115
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: normally look At barbara back and say, like, oh you've

1116
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: really aged one minute SINCE i saw you one minute.

1117
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 3: Ago but she says to doctor crasp AND i trust

1118
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 3: no one and you know. It so this is clearly

1119
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 3: just a fully transactional. Relationship and then, oh the next

1120
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: thing Is Lord. Grawl remember Barth quader arrives and we

1121
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: realize That Lord grawl And Lady agatha are an. Item

1122
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: they are. Together and when he arrives and Meets Lady

1123
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: agatha and crasp and he's, like, wow you are so.

1124
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: Beautiful you have not aged one. Minute and of course

1125
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: it's especially hilarious because he's still wearing the face. Belts.

1126
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah this never comes. Off he never takes off this.

1127
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: Helmet, yeah so the face belts are always fully. On

1128
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: even in scenes where it looks like he and he

1129
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: And Barbara bach are about to like have some, romance

1130
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: the face belts are just right in the. Way AND i,

1131
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: think you, KNOW i was thinking about, this AND i was,

1132
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: Like Star wars made a smart decision by Keeping Darth,

1133
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 3: vader at least post his vadering basically, asexual because If

1134
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: Darth vader was trying to like have a dating life

1135
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: while he was building The Death, STAR i think that

1136
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 3: would not have added the right kind of depth to the.

1137
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: Film but here we get to see Their Darth vader's love.

1138
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: Life he And Lady. Agatha it seems like they're going

1139
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 3: to be very happy together though.

1140
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: In, away, like you, know she's worried about aging one

1141
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: minute and and absorbs the liquids of slaughtered peasants so

1142
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: that she can live. Longer he is a cold and

1143
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: motionless man inside of a face. Shackle that, so, yeah

1144
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: they seem perfect for each.

1145
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: Other, oh but here we learn about the plan that's

1146
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 3: driving the plot of the. Movie so we learn that

1147
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 3: Doctor craspin is going to create For Lord grawl And

1148
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: Lady agatha an army of humanoids that will be indestructible human. Robots,

1149
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: again this is another one of those movies where they

1150
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 3: they pronounce it. Robot and then pretty much right after,

1151
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 3: this Doctor craspan notices he like looks on a telescreen

1152
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 3: and he Sees Richard keel zooming around in space. Nearby you,

1153
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 3: know he's flying a spaceship outside The Star destroyer and,

1154
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 3: uh crasp or, OUTSIDE i guess they're at the base

1155
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 3: on Knox in at this. Point And craspin sees him

1156
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 3: on THIS tv and he's, like, oh that, guy that,

1157
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: GUY i want to turn him into an indestructible Human

1158
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 3: robut that's the Guy i'm going to. Humanoid so he

1159
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: uses he like messes with some switches on a panel

1160
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: to Make Richard keel crash land his ship on this.

1161
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: Planet and then they they like he has some to

1162
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: another cute scene interacting with the, dog and then he's

1163
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: just basically hit with a missile that just blows his

1164
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 2: ship up, right, yeah and transforms him into a.

1165
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 3: Humanoid, Right so he gets humanoided by a missile from.

1166
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: Space it's very beast Of yucca flats because he pops

1167
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: up and suddenly his beard is, gone like the moment he's.

1168
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: Humanoided he is now clean, shaven and let's see other transformation.

1169
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 3: Elements he can no longer. Talk he, Grunts, yeah he

1170
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: grunts and groans a, lot just rages around waving his. Arms,

1171
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: immediately some soldiers show up to shoot at, him and

1172
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: it does, nothing and he tosses them around like sacks of.

1173
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: Flour And craspin's dudes capture the Rage golob by knocking

1174
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: him out with What crassman calls a very special narcotic.

1175
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: Gas and then they take him back to the base and, say,

1176
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 3: okay we can control him now because we put an

1177
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 3: implant on his.

1178
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: Head, yeah there's this kind of third eye jewelry thing

1179
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: that they put on him and controls him.

1180
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 3: Right And crasban says To, grawl in seven, Days metropolis

1181
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 3: will be populated by an army of humanoids at your. Command,

1182
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 3: oh when we skipped over one thing THAT i thought

1183
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: was really, funny because there's like a there's like an

1184
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: interrupted romance scene Between Barber brock And Lord. Grawl here

1185
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: they're like in a room, together And Lady agatha says

1186
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 3: to him it is a great honor for me to

1187
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: be loved by the future ruler Of metropolis and the entire,

1188
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: galaxy and is the most absolutely flat line Delivery i've ever.

1189
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: Heard like, Yeah but Then Lord grawl's, like so you

1190
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: just want my power and she's, like only IF i

1191
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: can share it with, You AND i think they're about to,

1192
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: kiss BUT i don't know how they would kiss because

1193
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 3: his face belts are in the. Way and then Immediately

1194
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 3: Doctor craspan like interrupts them by coming on the telescreen

1195
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 3: on the wall and he's, like, hey what's. Up i've

1196
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: got you a. Humanoid he's so, tall let's turn him.

1197
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 4: In.

1198
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah it is stupid, too because it's, like, okay he

1199
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: can only he. Directly he's like a mindless killing machine

1200
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: that's directly controlled by the implant on his. Head and

1201
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: yet he's going to command an. Army what how does this?

1202
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: Work, Yeah i'm not quite. Sure but so they give

1203
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 3: a mission to the now humanoid did go, law but

1204
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: they send him on a hit job to kill great,

1205
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: brother remember Big brother from earlier In, metropolis And Lord

1206
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 3: grahl says to, him you will not stop until my

1207
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: brother is crushed to a pulp at your. Feet so

1208
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 3: they send him into this, place the city that looks

1209
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 3: like in the establishing. Shots it looks like when people

1210
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 3: make those aluminum casts of ant colony. Tunnels, yeah and

1211
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 3: it looks pretty.

1212
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: Interesting and it reminds me of another thing that you

1213
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: see In Star wars ripoff movies is, that, certainly if

1214
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: you can create an alien, city you, know like, this that's.

1215
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: Great but also if you can shoot as, many like

1216
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: late seventies futuristic bits of, architects, sure you know that

1217
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: kind of future shot kind of, architecture, ye that also

1218
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: is a great, idea and they do that in this.

1219
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: Film there's some really interesting architectural choices that they use

1220
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: as backdrops at.

1221
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 3: TIMES i think there are a lot of public library

1222
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 3: buildings that end up in these sci fi movies BECAUSE

1223
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: i don't, know you, know they've got some weird looking.

1224
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: Staircase, yeah any, Oh, yeah if you can get a

1225
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: weird looking staircase and interesting hotel, atrium then.

1226
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah you've got to put it in your. Movie so

1227
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: they Send Richard keel into the city Of. Metropolis, AGAIN

1228
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 3: i think the planet Is metropolis and the city Is,

1229
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 3: metropolis and the guards try to stop, him but of

1230
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: course nothing's going to stop. Him he's a. Humanoid so

1231
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: they shoot him with. Lasers it doesn't do. Anything he

1232
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 3: throws him on the. Ground the palace guards are being

1233
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: commanded by Again Nick, nick the guy from, earlier and

1234
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: the lasers have no, effect And golob is very.

1235
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: Angry, yeah he's basically a Rampaging frankenstein in all of.

1236
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: This, Yeah i'm throwing people on the. Ground the bad,

1237
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 3: yeah laser.

1238
01:04:59,080 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: Bad.

1239
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah and So nick goes to talk To Great brother

1240
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 3: and he, Says Great, brother you must leave the building at.

1241
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 3: Once there's some sort of mutant, outside and so they

1242
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 3: Evacuate Great brother And. Golob. Oh Then golob hijacks a

1243
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: land speeder just Like luke has in the First Star

1244
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 3: wars movie to go to the institute from, earlier because

1245
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: Somehow crasman knows that's Where Great brother has been evacuated.

1246
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: To and then he busts in there and they try

1247
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: to set a trap for him where they're going to

1248
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 3: Crush golob in a hydraulic, press but that doesn't work

1249
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 3: because he's too strong for. It he just pushes it

1250
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 3: right back. Up and then there's an interesting moment Where

1251
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 3: golob has a chance to Smash Great, brother like he's

1252
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: got him right. There he breaks through the traps and all,

1253
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 3: that But craspin for some reason gets greedy with his

1254
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 3: personal grudge and he's, like, no don't Kill Great brother,

1255
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: yet go Kill Barbara gibson.

1256
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: First, Yeah crasman cares more about Killing Barbara gibson than

1257
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: anyone else in this movie cares about.

1258
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 3: Anything, Yes and it's all for revenge Because Barbara gibson

1259
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 3: uncovered his illicit activities at the. Institute so he's, like you.

1260
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: Can't you can't Do Great brother until you do my

1261
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 3: revenge mission. First So golob then goes To Barbara gibson's

1262
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: house and there's a big chase scene where he's running,

1263
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: around smashing through walls and you think he's gonna Kill Korean,

1264
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 3: clary but instead It's Tom tom to the. Rescue Tom

1265
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: tom is there and he uses some kind of psychic

1266
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 3: powers On golob to calm, him stop the, raging stop

1267
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: the hulking, out and they sort of kneel down together

1268
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: And Tom tom says to, him may your essence return

1269
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: to your. Body let me reach into your heart and

1270
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 3: into your soul and it.

1271
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: Works, yeah and it's kind of. SWEET i don't, KNOW

1272
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: i kind of like the energy of, this you, know,

1273
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

1274
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah but Then Korean clary this Is Barbara. Gibson she

1275
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: runs out into the desert BECAUSE i think she doesn't

1276
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: realize That Tom tom has successfully tamed the, beast and

1277
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: she is ambushed by. Stormtroopers but then we get this

1278
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 3: really weird sequence where the stormtroopers that are out to

1279
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: kill her are instead shot with like plastic neon arrows

1280
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 3: by these two mimes In Obi Wan kenobi robes that

1281
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 3: Are Tom tom's friends from another. Dimension he says they're foreign.

1282
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: Travelers, yeah they're they're kind of like space, elves not

1283
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: in any like kind of like warhammer, sense but like

1284
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: in like they're just sort of like fantasy.

1285
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: Elves, yeah very. Strange they come and go a lot

1286
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 3: in the. Movie they appear at random times to Aid

1287
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 3: Tom tom by shooting people with bow and. Arrow the

1288
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: movie has a lot of psychic powers and, clairvoyance and

1289
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 3: So Tom tom And golob then use psychic powers to

1290
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 3: reveal the location Of Lord grawl And craspin they find

1291
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 3: out they're On noxon and then When barbara goes to

1292
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 3: reveal this to the, authorities she gets, kidnapped kidnapped by

1293
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: a spaceship and taken to the evil Planet, noxon Leaving

1294
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 3: golob along With Tom. Tom and of Course barbara's taken

1295
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 3: to The Lord grawl and she says with again absolutely flat.

1296
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: Delivery it's, like great brother will crush you like a.

1297
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,959
Speaker 3: Worm and she's Now Princess leah from the Original Star.

1298
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: Wars she's held prisoner on The Death. Star and now

1299
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 3: we're toward the end of the, movie but we finally

1300
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: kick into very familiar Original Star wars. Territory, right it's

1301
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 3: a rescue mission To Lord grawl's star, base And nick

1302
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: has to. GO i, guess BECAUSE i don't. Know he's

1303
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 3: the young honky, guy and he, says, Well i'm going

1304
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 3: to go on a single commando raid because that has

1305
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 3: the best chance of. SUCCESS i don't know why that

1306
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 3: would have the best chance of. Success why don't they

1307
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 3: send an entire. Army don't they have? One they're bloated by? Peace, Right,

1308
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 3: yeah that's, right they're bloated by. Peace Lord grawl was,

1309
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 3: Right so he's going to go on a mission to

1310
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 3: Rescue Barbara gibson and recover The. Capatron and then this

1311
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 3: part made me laugh out. Loud golob goes up to

1312
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 3: great brother and he's, like Go, lob Go barbara my.

1313
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 3: Friend and so he's sort of regained some ability to,

1314
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: speak but not the full ability to. Speak he can

1315
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 3: only talk in the caveman monosyllable. Thing oh and then

1316
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 3: of Course Tom tom comes. Along he sneaks onto the.

1317
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 3: Ship so Like nick And golob are flying to the

1318
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 3: base And Tom tom just shows. Up and what Does

1319
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 3: nick say to? Him he's, like are you are you

1320
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 3: out of your space dimensions or something something like.

1321
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: That it gets Very Star wars for a little bit,

1322
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 2: here and Just Star wars stuff, happens but it's still

1323
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: worth sticking with because there's a lot of cool stuff

1324
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 2: at the.

1325
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 3: End, yes, yes, Yes so there's a space dog fight

1326
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 3: on the way there where they get attacked by, ships

1327
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 3: and this is again one of those like blatant ripoff.

1328
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: Scenes is just a direct copy of the scene In

1329
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 3: Star wars Where luke And hahn go into the ball

1330
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 3: turret guns on The Millennium falcon and fight off the tie.

1331
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 3: Fighters it's a direct ripoff of, that except here instead

1332
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 3: Of luke And. Han it Is, nick the Lovable. NICK

1333
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 3: i did like in the scene, though How golob not

1334
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: approvingly every Time nick destroys an enemy, fighter looks At

1335
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 3: Tom tom and he's, like. Yep but Then nick gets

1336
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 3: knocked out and they crash land On Planet knox in

1337
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 3: which again looks exactly Like. Metropolis it's the same, desert

1338
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 3: and they get a reunion With kip the, robodog which

1339
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 3: is again truly very.

1340
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 2: Cute, yeah this relationship is the heart and soul of

1341
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 2: this motion, picture.

1342
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 3: Right so they have to infiltrate The. Bass so you've

1343
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: Got Richard keel And nick And Tom tom and Now

1344
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: kip the robot. Dog they're all working. Together they infiltrate

1345
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: the bad Guy bass by Having kip the robot distract

1346
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 3: the guards and then they all just run in the.

1347
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 3: Door and their method for Finding Barbara gibson in The

1348
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:48,919
Speaker 3: secret Grawl lair is That golob says to the robot

1349
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 3: dog Bar bra and then somehow the dog leads them to.

1350
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 3: HER i don't know how that.

1351
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: Works, yeah it's a. DOG i guess it can lead

1352
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: people to. Places that's how it works IN tv.

1353
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 3: SHOWS i have several questions about the fighting that starts.

1354
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 3: Here so they have to fight some stormtroopers along the,

1355
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 3: way and a lot of this is hand to hand

1356
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: fighting with Like nick doing wrestling moves on. Stormtroopers why

1357
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 3: are they Having nick do the? Fighting Isn't golob indestructible

1358
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 3: at this? Point shouldn't they let him do the?

1359
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 2: Fighting they, should because he certainly does a lot of

1360
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: the melee combat before and, afterwards doing all sorts of

1361
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: fun giant, moves you, know throwing guys. Around at one,

1362
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: point he does this wonderful number where he grabs a

1363
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: guy and like just pounds his head into the ceiling several. Times,

1364
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 2: Yea and yet he never does a move THAT i was,

1365
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 2: anticipating the one where you come up behind two stormtroopers

1366
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: and you grab their heads and you knock them together like.

1367
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 3: Coconuts, yeah, yeah that stunds like.

1368
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: That would be just a that's just a go to giant,

1369
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 2: move and it doesn't.

1370
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 3: Happen that's that's money left on the, table my number

1371
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 3: one complain about this huge missed. Opportunity but then, meanwhile

1372
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 3: of course we got to have some some. Peril so

1373
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: we find out that Doctor crassman is going to Drain

1374
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 3: Barbara gibson with The Iron maiden Of needles to create

1375
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 3: the most potent dose of serum yet For barbara. Back

1376
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 3: and so she's in the setup and they got the

1377
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: needles going in for, her but then the heroes bust

1378
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 3: in to rescue, her and Doctor crassman looks so betrayed

1379
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 3: in this scene when When golob shows back up and

1380
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 3: now he's working for the good, guys he, says the

1381
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 3: humanoids fighting for, them it's not possible and he seems really. Hurt.

1382
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 2: Again best actor in the. Movie, yeah and it's in

1383
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: the in the bar is very, low you, know so

1384
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: when when Author kennedy's busting out those those, emotions like

1385
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 2: you feel them extra. Hard you're, like what is? This

1386
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: what AM i watching?

1387
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 3: Here so the bad guys have to run out of

1388
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: the room and escape while they rest while the good

1389
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 3: guys Rescue Barbara. Gibson But Lady agatha is distraught about

1390
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 3: this because she needs her. Serum she's repeatedly saying, LIKE

1391
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 3: i need my seerum. Immediately IF i don't get, IT

1392
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 3: i might age one. Minute and then there is a

1393
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 3: hallway blaster fight that again is ripped straight out Of Star.

1394
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 3: Wars it's just the scene From Cell BLOCK aa twenty,

1395
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 3: three and then this evolves into a big blaster fight

1396
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 3: and a spaceship. Hangar there's a great moment in this

1397
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: fight Where kip the robot dog defeats some stormtroopers by

1398
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 3: peeing on the floor and then they slip on it

1399
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 3: and fall. Over it's good at. First golob is Defeating

1400
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 3: stormtroopers by like knocking them on the, ground but then

1401
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 3: he gets a laser gun and he really tears up the.

1402
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 3: Place and this big action scene is, cheap but it's pretty.

1403
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 3: Fun yeah it.

1404
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: IS i enjoyed this one a. Lot and again this

1405
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: is where you have A golob like smashing people's heads

1406
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: into the ceiling and so.

1407
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 3: Forth. Yeah and so when this fight is going, on

1408
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 3: the bad guys are not doing so. Hot LIKE i

1409
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 3: said With Doctor crassman a minute, ago he sounds so,

1410
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 3: hurt like the bad guys really Seem you start kind

1411
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 3: of feeling bad for them Because Lady agatha is just

1412
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 3: clawing at the. Walls she's, LIKE i need my. Serum

1413
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: and Then Lord grawl issues the most forlorn and defeated

1414
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 3: order to kill them That i've ever. Heard do you

1415
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 3: remember this part where he says like kill?

1416
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 2: Them, yeah, YEAH i mean you kill them or shoot

1417
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: them is as a frequent order given by by, villains

1418
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: but generally there's a certain amount of whimsy or or

1419
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: evil to. IT i MEAN i always come back to

1420
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 2: the Excellent Ronald lacy And raiders of The Lost. Arc

1421
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 2: you know where he, goes shoot, them shoot them, both you,

1422
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: know like that's such great. Delivery and, yeah Gral is

1423
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: JUST i don't think he believes what he's.

1424
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 3: Saying he sounds like he knows he's. Lost he's just

1425
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 3: he's just. Begging he's, like kill. Them and then we

1426
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 3: get maybe my favorite special effect in this.

1427
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: Movie, yeah that's, right because time has run out For Lady.

1428
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,799
Speaker 3: Agatha she aged one. Minute oh, no.

1429
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 2: That one minute that was that was the last, MINUTE i. Guess,

1430
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 2: yeah so she ages that one minute and then she

1431
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: just Completely it's kind of a rapid aging, effect kind

1432
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: of a melting, effect but not done nearly anywhere near

1433
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 2: as well as what you would see and Say.

1434
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,879
Speaker 3: Raiders The Lost Arc orgon though the third.

1435
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: One The Last, crusade where we had a rapid aging

1436
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: sequence that was pretty. Great this is neither of. Those

1437
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: it's more of a frame by frame, effect similar to

1438
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: some early werewolf transformation sequences you see in.

1439
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 3: Pictures but it's still a lot of. Fun, yeah she

1440
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 3: turns into a rotten.

1441
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: Skeleton, yeah so that was. Fun that's worth hanging in

1442
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: there for.

1443
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 3: Now there's a bunch of other fighting stuff that. Happens

1444
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: at one point in the, Fight Tom tom and His

1445
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 3: archer mimes show up again to save the. Day they

1446
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 3: shoot the neon arrows at the bad guys While Tom

1447
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 3: tom does psychic. Stuff and then there was a part

1448
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 3: THAT i thought was very. Funny there was a brief

1449
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: hand to hand fight Between nick And Lord. Grawl so

1450
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 3: can you imagine If Star wars had a scene Where

1451
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 3: Hans solo And. Darth we're just punching and kicking each.

1452
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 3: Other but eventually in the, Scene Lord graul whips out

1453
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 3: his secret, weapon which is laser. Fingers this is not

1454
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: a power that we knew he. Had it just appears

1455
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 3: out of nowhere and he starts blasting his laser fingers At.

1456
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 3: Nick but, eventually Even Lord grawl is no match For.

1457
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 3: Golob the Humanoid Golob bear hugs him and then he

1458
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 3: disintegrates inside his.

1459
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 2: Suit, yeah this is kind of, weird kind of like

1460
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 2: a green screen. Effect and then the suit is, Empty

1461
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: gral is, defeated.

1462
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 3: And of course the heroes escape the base as it is.

1463
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 3: Exploding and then you got the problem with The, capatron

1464
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 3: this thing that's supposed to detonate and create a bunch

1465
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 3: of other humanoids Like, golob And golob decides he's going

1466
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 3: to sacrifice himself by detonating The capatron under a, lake

1467
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 3: so he grabs. It he sort of falls on a

1468
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 3: grenade but, underwater and they think he's. Dead but Then

1469
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 3: Richard keel pops buck back up out of the water

1470
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 3: and somehow he has his beard. Back it has unhumanoided

1471
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: him to fall on the grenade of The.

1472
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 2: Capitron, yes it's pretty, great and he's, like like he

1473
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: doesn't really have any memory of what. Happened she's, like

1474
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: you look great in a, beard and he's, Like i've

1475
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: always had a. Beard it's, beautiful beautiful.

1476
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 3: Moment, yeah and then we get absolutely bizarre twist ending

1477
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: THAT i have no idea how to, explain but we

1478
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 3: find out That Tom tom has got a sail off

1479
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 3: into the sunset because he explains that he is from

1480
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 3: another place Called. TIBET i assume that is supposed to

1481
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 3: refer To, tibet the place On, earth and so you'd

1482
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 3: think that this, is oh, well maybe this is like

1483
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 3: A i don't, know like one of those sci fi

1484
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 3: endings where, oh Actually earth is here and he's From

1485
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 3: earth and this is somewhere. Else but that doesn't make

1486
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 3: sense because they tell us That metropolis Is, earth so

1487
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 3: it would not make sense to say That Tom tom

1488
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 3: was From earth all along this faraway.

1489
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 2: Place is It is he From tobet in the past

1490
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 2: or DID i take that.

1491
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 3: Up on my? Entering? YEAH i. DON'T i was, like

1492
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: is he a time traveler from the. Past that is

1493
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 3: the only thing that really seems to make sense to.

1494
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah i'm not. SURE i have no, answers BUT

1495
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 2: i did really like this this ending because, again it

1496
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: feels very boreds Of. Canada, yes it feels like we're

1497
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: just straight up teleporting into the hexagon sun here because

1498
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: we have that. Analog it's like this analog dreamy summer,

1499
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 2: day psychedelic, vibe the sense of everything's gonna be okay

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: because you have the Boy Tom tom saying all these

1501
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: positive things while The morricone Dream twinkle music goes on

1502
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: in the, background and the glowing cosmic barge floats into

1503
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: the movie from The gray havens or to bed or,

1504
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 2: wherever and, uh, yeah it's a good landing for the.

1505
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 3: FILM i. Agree the end is just a slow cruise

1506
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 3: into the. Orange feels, good feels. Warm, yeah you do

1507
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 3: feel warm at the. End oh and we get some

1508
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 3: ending near. Too that was really. Funny it, said once

1509
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 3: again Planet earth had narrowly escaped. Disaster was there another?

1510
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 3: Time once again it had found in itself the, intelligence the,

1511
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 3: insight and the strength to repel a mortal. Enemy once,

1512
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: again man was to live at peace in the. Galaxy

1513
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 3: awesome they wrapped it. Up, YEAH i Guess, yoh, Okay

1514
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 3: Star wars wasn't able to do.

1515
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: That Like Star, wars they had to come back in

1516
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: subsequent films to flash everything. Out this film did it

1517
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: in one.

1518
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 3: Picture that's a good. Point, yeah no additional storytelling. Required

1519
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 3: everybody lived happily ever. After, yes, so oh what to?

1520
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: SAY i Guess in the, END i found this to

1521
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: be an enjoyable viewing, experience THOUGH i did have to

1522
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: force myself to keep watching. Through like the first ten

1523
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 2: minutes or. So, yeah and then there was certainly this

1524
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: kind of a potential dropout period later. On SO i

1525
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: would say that if you're to watch this, film you

1526
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 2: stick with, it or feel free to skip ahead a little,

1527
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: bit because you, know honestly you're not going to miss.

1528
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 3: MUCH i would say this one is very different From

1529
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 3: message From, space and that they're Both Star wars. Ripoffs

1530
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 3: But message From SPACE i THINK i already said this,

1531
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 3: earlier but it has a lot more esthetic uniqueness and

1532
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 3: interest to, it like a lot more different colors and

1533
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 3: sets and costumes and alien designs and, things and it

1534
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 3: goes a lot more different places with the. Plot like

1535
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 3: in many, Ways message From space was kind of hard

1536
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 3: to follow because a lot of strange things happen in.

1537
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 3: It this movie, IS i would, say the opposite end

1538
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 3: of the spectrum is it is very simple, plot very.

1539
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 3: Straightforward you might even want to fast forward some, parts

1540
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 3: but enjoyable in a similar.

1541
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: Way, Ultimately, yeah and worth it definitely For Richard keel

1542
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: and for Author, kennedy both of whom are very very

1543
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: entertaining in this.

1544
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 3: Film.

1545
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah now you're probably, wondering, well where CAN i watch?

1546
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 2: It it's been ON dvd. Before i'm sure you can

1547
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 2: probably land it ON dvd if you look around in

1548
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: the right, place BUT i could not find a legit

1549
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 2: streaming source for it right. NOW i don't. Know it

1550
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,520
Speaker 2: might be on twob but it's definitely been on, YouTube

1551
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 2: like one of the places where it's hosted on. YouTube

1552
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 2: it's been up since twenty, fifteen and nobody's bothered to

1553
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 2: take it. Down it's not pristine. QUALITY i feel like

1554
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 2: you could probably get a better quality version of this

1555
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: if you had like a LEGIT dvd or, something but

1556
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 2: it's still.

1557
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 3: Watchable somebody get us the FOUR K. Humanoid, yeah, yeah

1558
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 3: the FOUR k. RESTORATION i want to see. IT i do.

1559
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 3: Too there's several THINGS i need more detail, on one

1560
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 3: of which is barber box wig THAT i need to

1561
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 3: see the define grains and details of the hair that's

1562
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 3: going on there and where the seams. Are that's very. Important,

1563
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: yeah it was. Impressive.

1564
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 2: Costume oh, YEAH i will say, overall like the costumes

1565
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 2: and sets and, miniatures, like everything looks pretty. Good some

1566
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: of the effects are a little afi, IFY i, guess

1567
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: but for the most, part everything looks pretty. Good it's

1568
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: Not Star WARS A New hope, quality but it's it's pretty.

1569
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 2: Good so it is the kind of film that would

1570
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: benefit from like a clear. RESTORATION i think maybe not FOUR.

1571
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: K don't bring it up too don't bring it bring

1572
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 2: it up into too high a, detail but you, know

1573
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: it's it's an interesting film to look.

1574
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 3: At put it in FOUR, k put it in EIGHT.

1575
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 3: K i want to see every molecule of this, movie.

1576
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 2: Because that is a real concern with some of these.

1577
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: Restorations we've seen those that you restore it a bit

1578
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: too much and you're going to see too many of the,

1579
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 2: cracks you see too many of the wires and so,

1580
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: forth and in some cases that has to then be digitally.

1581
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: Removed effects that used to look good don't look good.

1582
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 3: Anymore yeah, yeah or sometimes not even, effects just you,

1583
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 3: know the colors AND i don't know what you'd always call,

1584
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 3: it maybe the color grading and certain things about the

1585
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 3: film quality of the. Movie classic example THAT i recall

1586
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 3: is that the Movie, predator you, know the sci fi

1587
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 3: action Movie, schwarzenegger looks good on THE vhs. TAPE i

1588
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 3: think it even looked good on the FIRST dvd that came,

1589
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 3: Out BUT i recall at some point there was a

1590
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 3: blu ray of, it and it was just, like, oh

1591
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 3: this is not. Right it looked like waxy. Huh. INTERESTING

1592
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 3: i think sometimes it.

1593
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: Happens, yeah all, right, WELL i think we're going to

1594
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: go and close this episode out, here but we'd love

1595
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts on this movie Star wars in,

1596
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: general but certainly Other Star wars. Ripoffs what are your

1597
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: Favorite Star wars? Ripoffs what do you think about the

1598
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 2: esthetic qualities Of Star wars that tend to be reflected

1599
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 2: in these. Films all that's fair, game let us, know

1600
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 2: and next, WEEK i believe the plan is that we

1601
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 2: will continue and we'll finish our trilogy of Seventies florida.

1602
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: Movies so we'll still be in the nineteen seventies next

1603
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: time In Weirdow, cinema but we'll be looking at the

1604
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 2: film Shock, waves which interestingly, enough has A Star wars

1605
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: actor in.

1606
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 3: It it Has Peter. Cushion oh, well, Yeah so.

1607
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: If you want to watch, ahead here's a, rare a

1608
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 2: rare end episode advance on the next.

1609
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 3: EPISODE i haven't seen this, one But i'm looking forward to.

1610
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 2: It in the, meantime if you would like to check

1611
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: out other episodes Of Weird, House. Cinema you will find

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,479
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