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Speaker 1: What a weekend? Where do we even start? Because I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: I know you put out a video. I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: also dive into some some Michigan talk about what even

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Speaker 1: the hell you guys are going to do because it

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Speaker 1: seems like the entire operation and plan some of the

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Speaker 3: Eye, I one hundred percent agree, and I am the

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Speaker 3: public eye, So I like to believe that Michigan has

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Speaker 3: a better game plan than hey. Hopefully Kilin Debor loses

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Speaker 3: to Oklahoma and we'll get him and if not killing

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Speaker 3: Dillingham's chomping at the bit to leave his alma mater

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Speaker 3: in a place he loves more than anything to come

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Speaker 3: to Michigan. I'm hoping the thought process will went a

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Speaker 3: little more farther than that. If you and we talked

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Speaker 3: ed EDDIEO when he's with LSU getting an interim head

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Speaker 3: coach job, he's meeting somebody at a gas station. There's

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Speaker 3: burner phones involved, like we have to cover all bases.

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Speaker 3: If you're the ad, if this happens, this happens, you're

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Speaker 3: always ready for every circumstance. So if something happens that

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Speaker 3: seems catastrophic, got your answers. My thought process in the

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Speaker 3: Michigan thing is this if sorry, sorry, I just I

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Speaker 3: know last week you had this strategy and I was

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Speaker 1: Like there's a strategy out there, and now the strategy

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Speaker 3: Strategies Pio, I'm gonna play. I'm gonna talk as if

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Speaker 3: the only game Pan was Kailin de Borg Kenydingham. Because

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Speaker 3: if your thought process, if you're Michigan, is those are

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Speaker 3: I have no doubt in that. But if thats the

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Speaker 3: Michigan thought process, why would you in your mind settle

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Speaker 3: thought process is twenty twenty six. Say hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: we have a lot more issues than just to the

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Speaker 3: head coaches. Be the person Michigan. It's great for PR

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Speaker 3: You get your president in place who knows what happens

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Speaker 3: other sport at Michigan, which is the athletic director, not

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Speaker 3: Michigan needs a whole lot more than just we have

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Speaker 3: five years have not been ideal other than a national championship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you would think in a I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to say a perfect world, within the framework of this situation.

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Speaker 4: In a perfect world, you knew that the Sharon fire

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Speaker 4: Sharon firing was coming.

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Speaker 5: There were rumors I heard him, You heard him.

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Speaker 4: We talked about him a dozen times during the season,

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Speaker 4: to fire him? As it turns out, because they went

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Speaker 4: what nine to three regular season, I don't think they

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Speaker 4: you've got an entire investigation and then they are firing him.

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Speaker 4: But the thing about it is, I'm convinced that Michigan

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Speaker 4: folks woke up the Sunday of that week, not expecting

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Speaker 4: to conduct a coaching search. Because of that, they had

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Speaker 4: to scramble a plan together. And because they had to

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Speaker 4: scramble a plan together, just like Penn State a few

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Speaker 4: months earlier, there were a certain number of candidates that

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Speaker 4: for type guys. In Penn State's case, that was Marcus Freeman,

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Speaker 4: And then once they quickly Mike Elko was another one.

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Speaker 4: Once they realized we're not getting those guys. Okay, those

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Speaker 4: More people get involved, more voices, more sign offs, more

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Speaker 4: checks and balances. So with Michigan, once you realize, like

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Speaker 4: you said, this happened in like an eight hour span,

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Speaker 4: once you realize it's probably not Kaylan. I don't think

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Speaker 4: it ever was. But once you firmly realize it's not Kaylin,

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Speaker 4: behind that curtain, they're just a bunch of mad scientists

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Speaker 4: and they're five steps ahead of us, and they've got

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Speaker 4: it's got several side roads of contingency plans and will

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Speaker 4: be good. It's just a bunch of people who have

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Speaker 4: very very little idea of what tomorrow may bring trying

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Speaker 4: to conduct a coaching search.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the problem. Is based on the reports that

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Speaker 3: this was brought to the athletic department in the summertime.

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Speaker 3: Those are the reports that are being set on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's true or it's not, let's just say it

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Speaker 3: of if there's validity to this, and the road would

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Speaker 3: be to fire him. What is our contingency plan.

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Speaker 4: That would be if you are the athletic director in

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Speaker 4: this case, we don't know that the AD is the

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Speaker 3: The search, right because it seems like there's multiple camps

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Speaker 3: buying for the top spot to make the decision at

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Speaker 3: the University of Michigan. That's where I sit there and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, Biff is. If Biff's sat here right now,

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Speaker 3: he would say, I'm not the long term answer for Michigan.

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Speaker 3: What do you take the job? Yes, absolutely, he knows

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Speaker 3: he's not the long term answer. Michigan knows and the

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Speaker 3: fan base knows. But if you're in the position you

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Speaker 3: are in now with the coaching cycle, it's pretty much

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Speaker 3: gonna be a whole new coaching cycle next year. There's

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Speaker 3: Who knows? Like how boosters get behind a donors because

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Speaker 3: there's a level of Michigan arrogance in the donor category

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Speaker 3: And now you're in the middle of October, you're seeing

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Speaker 3: the same. The players either today, tomorrow, yesterday, are going

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Speaker 3: to go on Christmas break. You are absolutely foolish if

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Speaker 3: can go here, you can go there. Tampering period is

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Speaker 3: crazy right now, but now you're away from your main

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Speaker 5: To now your parents are tampering with you exactly.

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Speaker 3: They know all the money could possibly Yet this is

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Speaker 3: going to be a very tough Christmas break for Michigan fans,

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Speaker 3: myself included.

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Speaker 1: Ah, losing is not that bad, Wow, losers not that

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Speaker 1: bad like you'll have to deal with weight loss, you

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Speaker 1: to deal with some short term pains that you'll have

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Speaker 1: to deal with shaved heads. But then you can direct

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Speaker 1: other chaos, and then you just sit back and realize

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Speaker 1: this is just a game. It's just a game at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. And then you just you

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Speaker 1: gear up for next season. Can you give me one?

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Speaker 1: Can you give me one second gear for next season?

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna take it all.

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Speaker 3: Can you give me a time out? We're gonna put

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Speaker 3: you in the little old box real quick as soundproof.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to end up like that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: do not want to become Oh that is you can't

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Speaker 3: hear us, so you can see.

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Speaker 5: Tell you something that used to be Will Compton?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that used to Did you see his eyes?

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Speaker 2: I got bags under my eyes right now.

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Speaker 3: He's got bags under his eyes right And it's like

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Speaker 3: it's like a doll's eyes, like a shark size.

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Speaker 4: They're just they're just glassed over. They're looking off into space.

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Speaker 4: What is he looking at me?

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Speaker 2: Or Jupiter?

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Speaker 3: It's not built for everybody, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: Like even Dylan left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened that man?

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Speaker 2: We're building the program?

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Speaker 5: Is he reading our lips? He's talking in there. I

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Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get him out of it. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 2: I'm not runn out of air.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm running off a strictly caffeine and Greek yogurt.

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Speaker 5: You gotta scratch on your neck.

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Speaker 2: I gotta stretch scratch on my neck for my one

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Speaker 5: It's just a.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to become. I'm excited. You have to

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Speaker 4: This this this went from we're going in tonight and

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Speaker 5: It's just a game.

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Speaker 3: We would have if we die, We died. Why are

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Speaker 5: It out, you're one or two more no's away from him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was what was funny.

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Speaker 2: The whole time he was playing everybody.

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Speaker 5: want to address that. My eyes or watering. Well. So

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Speaker 5: a lot of people are saying what you just said.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people think, oh, man, Kenny and his

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Speaker 5: No they didn't.

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Speaker 4: We were like you, now that this is over, you

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Speaker 4: I talked with Kenny Dillingham like five or six times

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Speaker 5: And I don't mean that.

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Speaker 4: Arizona State saying yeah, I haven't talked to Michigan. This

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Speaker 4: You assume the offer is gonna come. You don't know

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Speaker 4: I love Arizona State. Now, if you're if you're living

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Speaker 3: No, it feels that way. We could get a week

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Speaker 2: Do you want Biff?

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Speaker 3: My call would be Biff if I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: But he asked, He didn't ask who your call would be.

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Speaker 3: The way it feels right now, I think the only

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Speaker 5: But he didn't ask what the only answer is? Do

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Speaker 2: Pogi.

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Speaker 3: I want Biff Pog for twenty six. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I think Biff is not the long term answer at Michigan.

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Speaker 3: I think you go into an interim head coach situation.

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Speaker 3: Gary Muller, similar situation in Michigan gets fired. Who takes

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Speaker 5: But that's not the game plan.

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Speaker 3: Probably a different situation most likely, but it's the closest

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Speaker 5: When you can rent.

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Speaker 3: I'm just sitting in the batter's box, and.

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Speaker 5: I'm exactly why live when you can squat.

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Speaker 2: colleg Football Playoff, we just said the first round.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Merry Christmas, Mary, Christmas, Mary, Chris, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Guys, this is awesome.

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Speaker 5: Just a game I'm gonna have.

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Speaker 2: That's just the game. Just talk about the games that

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma.

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Speaker 5: Tell me about Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: I will say this about my expaniense in Oklahoma, I

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Speaker 3: And that's what it is, because it's not that I'm

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Speaker 3: Probably won't go back. Environment was awesome. Cannot believe they

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Speaker 4: It's really got to make you Tube feel kind of

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Speaker 1: Then I look back in the mirror and I say, Kurt,

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Speaker 2: They Oklahoma just choked the game. They blew it.

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Speaker 3: This is not gonna say we were right. Oklahoma just

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Speaker 5: They screwed it up.

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Speaker 3: They screwed it up, They screwed up.

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Speaker 3: Big fan of Tie, love him, obviously loved killing seriously,

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say if it was a quick button hook,

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Speaker 4: which I'm pretty sure he hand signaled to him and

442
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Speaker 4: he picked up on it, it wouldn't have gone to

443
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Speaker 4: the house because it would have had to go through

444
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Speaker 4: the receiver's body before to the house.

445
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Speaker 2: I think that Sona was sitting inside. All he was

446
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,440
Speaker 2: doing is sitting in there reading the Quarterbacks Cover two.

447
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I still think. So you go back watch

448
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,879
Speaker 5: TV copy, which I assume both of you have.

449
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,640
Speaker 4: He looks out there, whatever in the world this means

450
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,680
Speaker 4: for Oklahoma, he gives it to him. I think he

451
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 4: got a head nod from the receiver, but I'm not

452
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 4: sure whatever he told that dude to do, I'm pretty

453
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 4: sure he blindly trusted that he was going to do

454
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,600
Speaker 4: and that kid didn't do it. You're just look, I'm

455
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,199
Speaker 4: someone who held a Jammeteer Heisman ticket. I've got a

456
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 4: dog in the fight here, not anymore, but I did

457
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 4: have a dog in the fight. I am not gonna

458
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Speaker 4: believe that John Matier took that ball. Said no receiver

459
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 4: over there, Saban Brown was good enough. I'm not gonna

460
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 4: believe he did that. If he throws an errant ball

461
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,919
Speaker 4: over the middle or something like that. Okay, Now, he

462
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 4: could not have hit a dB in the chest any

463
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 4: more effectively than he did with that ball. So I'm

464
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Speaker 4: gonna say miscommunication.

465
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, miscommunication.

466
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 4: But I just want to ball use But I'm going

467
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 4: to say it's all on the receiver. I just don't

468
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 4: want John Matier to get any of the blank.

469
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Speaker 3: Okay, hey, if that's how you want to live, absolutely,

470
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Speaker 3: Team Sport eleven guys got to be in the same page.

471
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Speaker 4: He was great on third down in the first half.

472
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Speaker 4: I thought that was going to end up being the

473
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Speaker 4: stat of the game.

474
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Speaker 3: Well, you said it's.

475
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Speaker 1: Funny because the stat sheet was basically flipped from the

476
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Speaker 1: last game.

477
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Speaker 2: It was not like as bad as Alabama kind of

478
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 2: had him in the last game.

479
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 3: But the turnover margin all that stuff.

480
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 4: Think about the first quarter and change of this game.

481
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 4: It was like the fifth quarter of the SEC Championship game,

482
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Speaker 4: how lifeless Alabama looked, how bad the feel was getting

483
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 4: tilted on them, average starting field position, all that stuff

484
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Speaker 4: that we talked about after Obama Georgia and to an

485
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Speaker 4: extent Bama OU Round one was the first quarter of

486
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Speaker 4: this game. Okay, So like I'm joking around a little

487
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Speaker 4: bit about tie. But after the game, I'm on the

488
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 4: field and some of the BAMA coaches they're kind of

489
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 4: messing around, but like they're saying, man, you doubted us,

490
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Speaker 4: You doubted us? Dude, Yes, I doubted you in this game.

491
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Speaker 4: I doubted you down seventeen you. Oh in the world,

492
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 4: wasn't doubting you?

493
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Speaker 2: And I doubt you.

494
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Speaker 5: It's not like, okay, I don't want to go that

495
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Speaker 5: part yet, I still doubt you.

496
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Speaker 4: It's not personal game. It's not personal. It's definitely not personal.

497
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with Alabama. I'm just gonna

498
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 4: come out of my chair when I yelled its nothing

499
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 4: to do with Alabama.

500
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Speaker 3: But this is entertainment, entertainment, right and after it's just

501
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 3: it's really.

502
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 5: Just the game.

503
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 2: It's just a game. The game is just the game.

504
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 4: But this thing people do sometimes when you've given them

505
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Speaker 4: every reason to feel a way, and then you feel

506
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: that way, and then they act differently than the way

507
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 4: that made you feel how you originally felt, and they're like,

508
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Speaker 4: you had the audacity to.

509
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Speaker 5: Feel that way.

510
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Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm gonna tell you why. Because you were

511
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Speaker 4: terrible in Atlanta last time. I saw you, highly ineffective.

512
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 4: Some people didn't even think you should be in the playoff.

513
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: I defended you. I went to bat for you, and

514
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 4: you're giving them all the ammunition that he'll ever need,

515
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: Slash Day will ever need. So yeah, I think there

516
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 4: was a little bit of reason to doubt Alabama. They overcame. Okay,

517
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Speaker 4: now they get to go against Indiana, and that's a

518
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 4: game we're gonna cover post Christmas.

519
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 5: But that one we.

520
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 4: Got, we got Miami Ohio State, we got Oregon Texas Tech.

521
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 4: That's the big tense chance to flex and just knock

522
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Speaker 4: everything on its on its ear.

523
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Speaker 1: And Indiana can run the football. Indiana's got Fernando Mendoza

524
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Speaker 1: and we talked to But the drop punt. You saw

525
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: the drop punt.

526
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, before that drop punt, he just dropped it.

527
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Speaker 2: He just dropped He literally just.

528
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: Dropped the ball.

529
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Speaker 1: He dropped it well before that on that third and

530
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Speaker 1: three where Manteria kind of makes it happen. He's got

531
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Speaker 1: old buddy down the field, he just drops the ball.

532
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Speaker 1: Yeah like that right there would have been twenty four

533
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: to seven.

534
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

535
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Speaker 3: And Alabama, like their defense is pretty clear now what

536
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: they want to do is they want to play zone

537
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: and back up and not give up X plays And

538
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 3: they're like, hey, well as you just pick us a

539
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: part up and down the field. Who can do that?

540
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 3: Indiana all day long. That's what they can do. A

541
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 3: very nice way, in a very nice way, and the

542
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: most robotic computer way you could possibly ask for.

543
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna have to find some more like offensive

544
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Speaker 1: just production because again, you look at him in the

545
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Speaker 1: first part of the year until essentially what like November

546
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: mid whenever they started to play South Carolina, like Alabama's

547
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: offense and you go and if you look at box

548
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: scores and everything else, like they're averaging well over like

549
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: twenty first downs per game, and that kind of just

550
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: goes away. Like when you look at their body of

551
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: work at the late part of the year, which is

552
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: where all the doubt crept in. Is something wrong with

553
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: Tie is something going on with the offense. They can

554
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: never really run the football, but they're only averaging around.

555
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: It's like south to fifteen, like south to fifteen first down,

556
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 1: So where they're just they haven't had a whole lot

557
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: of production. You're kind of hanging on explosive plays. Like

558
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,239
Speaker 1: they scored thirty four points in that game, and you

559
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: look everywhere else, whether it's on the box score, everywhere,

560
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Speaker 1: I can't believe that there was what was the total

561
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: in that game or fifteen and a half. Yeah, but

562
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Speaker 1: they had the both teams combined scored like what over

563
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: sixty point fifty eight points? Yeah, yeah, fifty eight points.

564
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Speaker 1: And I'm just it did not feel like a game

565
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: where both teams where you just generate fifty eight points.

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it was just explosive plays and then miss

567
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 3: cues on whoever's fault it was. We're gonna for this show,

568
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: We'll say it was the wide receivers, the punter, like

569
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: just crazy stuff.

570
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

571
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Speaker 4: But if you take if you take so that the

572
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Speaker 4: pick six, that's a defensive score, just take it off

573
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Speaker 4: the board. Take the three points they got from the

574
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Speaker 4: muff punt or muffed handling of the punt off the board.

575
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 4: Even if you shave ten points off that still forty

576
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Speaker 4: eight points. It didn't even feel like a game where

577
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: forty eight got scored, right, It's pretty crazy.

578
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: And you had a couple missed field goals there at

579
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: the end too, which I know that Buddy was in

580
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: hell mentally missing those field goals.

581
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he had to be dying. What was your

582
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: thought on the Miami Texa and m game?

583
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: Pretty boring.

584
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 5: It was what I thought Bama OU was going to be.

585
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was extremely windy there. It was more windy

586
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 4: than the night before. I think once Miami realized we're

587
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 4: sort of sinking in our teeth a little bit and

588
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 4: Marcel Rea's not running the ball on us, which mobile

589
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 4: quarterbacks don't against Miami. Once they realized that, it was like,

590
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 4: we're not gonna let Carson Beack lose the game, is

591
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: how I felt they handled it.

592
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 5: Fletcher. You know, they got a four quarter approach.

593
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: They think that they can bust the game open, and

594
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter on the ground they did, so they

595
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 4: were able to stick to that. But they were able

596
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 4: to stick to that cause defense allowed them to. And

597
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: so I'm sitting there the entire time thinking, Okay, rewind

598
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 4: one year ago. Miami's having to score four every game

599
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 4: with cam Ward doing it basically on his own, so

600
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: they have a shot to win because defensively they're just atrocious.

601
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 4: And they made a personnel change and went and got

602
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: a new defensive coordinator, Corey Heathman out of Minnesota. They

603
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 4: made a huge deal about it internally, probably went under

604
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: the radar a little bit nationally. Well, now look at

605
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 4: them and look at the ability. Imagine me telling you

606
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 4: a year ago Miami a year from now is gonna

607
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 4: lose cam Ward. I'm not even gonna tell you who

608
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 4: they're going to get a quarterback. They're just gonna portle

609
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: in a guy, but there's no way he's going to

610
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 4: be as good as cam Ward. So you're thinking downgrade there.

611
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Speaker 4: Then you're I'm gonna tell you they're going to go

612
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 4: on the road in.

613
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Speaker 5: A playoff game. So they are going to make the playoff.

614
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Speaker 5: That's great.

615
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Speaker 4: They're gonna go on the road, They're going to score

616
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Speaker 4: ten and that's going to be good enough to win

617
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: a game.

618
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 5: Would have sounded insane, yep, and yet they did it.

619
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Speaker 2: You bring a great points too, like, imagine if this

620
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: Miami team had cam Ward on it.

621
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Speaker 5: Yep.

622
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 4: Yes, imagine cam warden a fraction of this defense last year.

623
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in it, and they're probably they have a

624
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 3: good chance to win it.

625
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: Actually, outside of just the missfield goals that was that

626
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: was brutal kid man.

627
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: I felt so bad for him, but.

628
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: I was actually enjoying watching the defensive battle. I mean

629
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: Miami and Hm too, but just flying around with their

630
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: hair on fire, tight windows. I'm thinking, who, which quarterback

631
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: is gonna like step up in the spotlight and really,

632
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, neither of you really leaning in the first half.

633
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: Marcel Reid's gonna be the one to kind of like

634
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: step up and finish, just get a deep shot down

635
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: like he did a play action, scrambled around a little bit,

636
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: had a guy wide open, and the left side of

637
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: the field got that and they stalled out end up

638
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: getting nothing on that. It kind of felt like, if

639
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: there's a quarterback that's going to win you the game,

640
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 3: it felt like Marcel Reid and moving Carson back throughout it.

641
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's gonna be plays that. I know Marcel

642
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: Read's watching world just like timing and rhythm. He's gonna

643
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: want plays back where I feel like when you're going

644
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: against Ohio State, Julian will thrive more in some many situation.

645
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to kind of watch the Miami defense

646
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: against the Ohio State offense.

647
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: There's one more thing that's happened right now. Landing's dealing

648
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 5: with it. Elcho dealt with it.

649
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: It's this thing with the abnormal hiring cycle where your

650
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 4: staff gets new jobs, but then they're still coaching through

651
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 4: the playoffs.

652
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 5: So Elko is losing both of his coordinators.

653
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 4: Colin Klein took the Kansas State job like he's going

654
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: to be a head coach, Well, he's still your offensive coordinator.

655
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: Bateman is leaving as well. So I was talking to

656
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: some folks about the dynamics that that creates in a building,

657
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 4: And on one hand, it's really really weird for prep

658
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: because on one hand, you're very happy that your guys

659
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: are getting opportunities, but job's not finished, so your most

660
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 4: important games are coming up, and the attention span is

661
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Speaker 4: fragmented from your theoretically your second third most important guys

662
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Speaker 4: in your staff. But also here's where Rubbern really meets

663
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 4: the road. If I'm head coach here and you're my

664
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: OC and you're my DC, you're getting looks because we're winning. Probably,

665
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: so then you get hired as a head coach. And

666
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: you get hired as a head coach. But the way

667
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 4: it works is you don't just leave and say bye.

668
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: You leave and you got to put a staff together,

669
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Speaker 4: And the first instinct you have is to look right

670
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: back in my building. Yep, because I've got a building

671
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: full of top level people in nutrition, strength, to condition,

672
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: your your own support staff, like, whatever the case may be.

673
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: So I go from wishing you well, congratulate you. I

674
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: may have even recommended you for the job too. I

675
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: don't want you taking my staffers, and so I'm fighting

676
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: against you and against you to keep people in my

677
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 4: building who you only got an opportunity to work around

678
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: because I gave you an opportunity and you did your job.

679
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: So we're even there.

680
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: Imagine sitting in a staff room where we're having to

681
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: work together to put together game plan to try and

682
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 4: get ready to go win a game, hopefully multiple games,

683
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: and I'm also competing against you kind of to keep staffers.

684
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 5: Yeah that's not an easy dynasic.

685
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: All happened quietly too. Yeah it gets allowed.

686
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: Then there's an argument, Yeah, yeah, throws everything football Like NFL,

687
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: if a coach gets hired and he's trying to bring

688
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: guys on, coaches for other teams can block guys leaving

689
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: unless it's like a pay raise or not a pay raise,

690
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: but like you get elevated as far.

691
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: As your role goes.

692
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Great question, like they can't make a lateral move.

693
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: They can't make a lateral move, but there's multiple time

694
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: like a love floor. When he left, I know Vrabel

695
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: blocked the people from leaving because like, hey, I want

696
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: you guys here, and you're taking a lateral move, so

697
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: he would keep those guys in the building.

698
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 5: This will shock you. None of that exists in college.

699
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, football is the best right now. I'm

700
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: getting fucked up my family, my school is getting by

701
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: the front of it right now. But it is awesome.

702
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be tough because again, if if you're

703
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: the head coach in the situation, you're doing everything you

704
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: can to pour into the situation that be, which is, hey,

705
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: we gotta we want to win the national title.

706
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: Win the coach will playoff.

707
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: Then whenever I know in my brain if all of

708
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: my prep and all my stuff gets done, once I

709
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: get moments of time where I feel like I would

710
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: be finding whatever the creative ways are, whatever you're obsessing

711
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: about within the team. Now that I'm going to be

712
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: a head coach, I feel like all that free time

713
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: now would be going into whether it be the relationships

714
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: inside the building, hitting people up outside, like hey, what's

715
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: your situation going on with this school? Like I'd be

716
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: putting more toward into what my future is going to

717
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: be at my next school, because now I'm about to

718
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: take my first head coaching job.

719
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Speaker 3: And if coaches the you know this in the building,

720
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: like what is our actual chances of winning a national championship?

721
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: Like I'm sure there was a like a Texas A

722
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: and M saw where their flaws were and then saw

723
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Speaker 3: the road and realize our flaws don't match up. I

724
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: can't be hidden through these future teams. So once you

725
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: can make that decision, you're as an OC or DCU.

726
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: Now as a head coaching job, it's even more of

727
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: a reason to going, Hey, let me focus on what

728
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: I got going on here, So maybe I could be

729
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: the head coach here someday or somewhere else.

730
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Speaker 4: And the important thing to remember now that we go

731
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Speaker 4: into quartifying around is Dan Lanning's dealing with us.

732
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 5: He's losing both coordinators.

733
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Speaker 4: So keep that in mind as you start to think

734
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Speaker 4: about the Orange Bowl.

735
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Speaker 5: How do I think they match up with Texas Tech?

736
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: Well that other factors in the room.

737
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Speaker 4: I know, no way you can quantify that because it

738
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: probably works different program to program, case by case, So

739
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: you just never know culture by culture.

740
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Speaker 1: And we're I know, Tash is going to cow where's

741
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: the OC going Kentucky head coach of Kentucky. Yeah, it's like,

742
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: unless you're going to I feel like I'm kind of

743
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: zooming out. Unless you're going to like an SEC or

744
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: Big ten, a really good job where you feel like

745
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot more resource help to where

746
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: people can kind of do some of these things, some

747
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: of these responsibilities that you deem as a priority and

748
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: you got people that can handle it. If you're going

749
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Speaker 1: to like an ACC or a Big twelve school to

750
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Speaker 1: where I feel like there's gonna be more urgency there

751
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: for you to have more responsibility because you don't have

752
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: all the same resources and backing that like the Big ten,

753
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: some of these prominent Big ten and SEC schools have.

754
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764
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Speaker 3: you guys make a few other two games? I just

765
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Speaker 3: all I did was look at the app. I learned

766
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: that through the show you can just go on the

767
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: opposite of googling the scores. I put out my little

768
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Speaker 3: goat Jurassic Part A post photo all contexts and just

769
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: waited for the scores to run. Seemed like Tulane got

770
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: a whole lot better. They lost forty one to ten

771
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: as opposed to forty five to ten, so a four

772
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: point swing from the last time they played, and Oregon

773
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: they refused to cover ahead. Jamil let him get back

774
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Speaker 3: into was.

775
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: That you could really tell who did and didn't watch

776
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: that game by the amount of people who said Oregon

777
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: didn't even cover bro. Yeah, they gave up thirty four.

778
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: They gave him five hundred yards of offense. And I said, well,

779
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: the University of Oregon logo gave up thirty four. The

780
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: guys on the field in the second half were very,

781
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: very clean Jersey unfamiliar names because they rolled out their

782
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: twos and threes in the second half, because you are

783
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: so inferior. They treated the second half as like an

784
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: FCS tune up game. Yeah, they treated it like the

785
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: last preseason, like a preseason game before these guys got

786
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: for next year. Yeah, so all due respect, five possession

787
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: lead in the first half was the big takeaway. It's

788
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 4: thirty four to three before the half, right, Yeah, that's

789
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: the takeaway.

790
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and your two's score sixteen more points. So is

791
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: it time that we now just move on from G Five's?

792
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: What are we changing the structure in college football? Does

793
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: something actually change going in next year?

794
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: I think something's got it, something's gotta change. There's been

795
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: so much.

796
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: Chaos that year that I feel like the structure, I

797
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: like to hope to believe like there's gonna be some.

798
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: Type of movement.

799
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, some type of restructuring, some type of figuring. Out

800
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: a different process because nobody wants to see those games. No,

801
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, hey, in this structure,

802
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: they deserve that they got in. They were their conference

803
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: championships were right, they were ranked higher than the ACCS once.

804
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: So you know Duke or yeah, Duke doesn't get in.

805
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. So we were saying, is based on the structure

806
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: of the collegewable playoff of the teams that I got

807
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: in and should have been in.

808
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: The playoff based on the current rules, Yeah, as they exist.

809
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: Those two teams should have gotten in based on the

810
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 4: rules as they exist. Question is do we change the rules?

811
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: Do I agree with what what he just said?

812
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 5: Well, there's no arguing it.

813
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: It's just fact that the G five teams got in

814
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: because of the current structure.

815
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not about the structure of college football. The

816
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: team they got in our we're supposed to get in.

817
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 3: Are you walking me in the summ No, I'm just

818
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: asking you if you agree with that or not.

819
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: Do I agree with the current structure?

820
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: No, the way the structure was that out the teams

821
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: that we're in were supposed to be because of the

822
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 3: current ructure. Now we need to change something. Yeah, I

823
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 3: mean it doesn't matter that we did welcome into something.

824
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 4: I know what you were doing. I didn't know what

825
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: you were doing at first, but you just made him

826
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 4: say roll Tide.

827
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: That's what you made. Miami should have been in Notre Dame.

828
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: We understand why they're out now. I don't agree with the.

829
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: Structure something, but you do want to blow the structure up.

830
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 5: YEA want to blow the structure up.

831
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 3: I think we've all been aligned. Are paths to getting

832
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 3: there were different, but we all believe that the College

833
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: Football Playoff needs to be different next year.

834
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 4: Most people think that. Most people believe that very few people.

835
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 4: If we strawhold America college football America, very few people

836
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: are saying I like it exactly how it is right now.

837
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 3: One of the biggest things that need to change is

838
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: the second round needs to be home home advantage.

839
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love to see that.

840
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: I would love to see Texas Tech having a home

841
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: game like the teams they got buys, the teams that

842
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: were one through four, like they get to have a

843
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: home game to come right.

844
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 3: Because what we saw last year, the team like Oregon

845
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: who had to buy, they were not prepared. They looked

846
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: a little rusty going into their game again by Ohio State, Like,

847
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,479
Speaker 3: now we're gonna get a little tune up game against

848
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 3: JMU or missing his tune up game. Now they get

849
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: to go in a little more fresh versus these teams

850
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: that advice, and if it goes the same way it

851
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: went last year, it's like they're in a much better

852
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: position play more football.

853
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: To go back to your your thing about the G five,

854
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 4: like everyone's spoken their peace on it. Then the result

855
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 4: hits you in the face again the other day and

856
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 4: you got two blowout games. So I warned you last week.

857
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: I said, if these games are close, there's gonna be

858
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 4: a ton of bad faith argument out there. Well they

859
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 4: weren't close, so then this is my opinion, you got

860
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: more bad faith argument or maybe flawed argument on the

861
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 4: other side.

862
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 5: So I like both of you. Don't really love.

863
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: The idea of G five teams just being kind of

864
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 4: gifted a spot in the playoff doesn't make logical sense

865
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: to me, But I know why it does exist. An

866
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 4: antig five or anything like that. But I know why

867
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 4: it exists. But my take on it has never been

868
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: they're going to get blown out. That's why they don't

869
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 4: belong in. They happen to get blown out because they're

870
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: inferior teams. But whether it was a three point game

871
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: or a three hundred point game, I don't really care.

872
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: I just I talked to you about last week this

873
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: strength of schedule and how I think there's a certain

874
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: bar you should have to clear, and most G five

875
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: schedules do not allow you to do that. It's not

876
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: their fault. That's why I would love a G five playoff.

877
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: Probably what's shocked me the most about this whole era

878
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: is I thought G five fans would be on board

879
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: with the concept of a G five playoff if it

880
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: had like a full financial ambilical cord attached to it,

881
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 4: Because you say G five playoff, and the first thought is, oh,

882
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: you're choking us off of the big playoff, which means

883
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 4: we're going to die on the vine over here because

884
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: we don't have enough money to survive. No, I would

885
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: love to just pump money into that thing.

886
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. They see it as everybody wanted to put them

887
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: at the kids there.

888
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, which that is It's brutally honest, that is what

889
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 4: you're doing. The reality it is just a tier of

890
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: college football that's beneath the like. So I mean it's

891
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: so stupid to think Louisiana'm Monroe, Louisiana State played the

892
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: same sport.

893
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 5: They don't.

894
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: They play the same sport from a rules perspective, but

895
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: from a resource perspective, we're on opposite sides of the

896
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 4: Grand Canyon looking at each other. Yeah, okay, so I'm

897
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: always a G five playoff guy. But then I get

898
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 4: pushed back on that, so like, I'm okay, I don't.

899
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 4: It's not like I'm hard and fast on that. That's

900
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: just how I'd like to see it because it makes

901
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 4: sense to me. But if you're not agreeing on that,

902
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: what is your proposal? And I had a lot of

903
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 4: people say, all right, my proposal is G five teams

904
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: should only get in if they're ranked in the top twelve.

905
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 5: I'd be totally fine with that. I'd be totally fine

906
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 5: with that.

907
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: The question becomes, if you don't give them a guaranteed

908
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 4: seat at the table but there are automatic bids for

909
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: other conference champs, do you run the risk of a lawsuit?

910
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: And then the third thing that I started to see

911
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 4: some people broach this past weekend for the first time

912
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: is what if there is a lawsuit? What if you

913
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: just let them, take you to court, lose the battle,

914
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: pay the check, and then about it however you want

915
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 4: to anyway. So there are a lot of different thoughts

916
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: out there.

917
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're in your opinion what is the fastest

918
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: way or the best way to fix it. And it

919
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: has to be legally, it doesn't have to be legal.

920
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: You got to basically just decide whatever your structure is

921
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: going to be, twelve team, sixteen teams, whatever. I think

922
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 4: they're always going to have one spot. I think they're

923
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 4: always going to have one guaranteed spot at the table.

924
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: I assume that that's probably not going anywhere unless and

925
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: this is why I go to the G five playoff thing.

926
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: If you created a separate playoff and there was the

927
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: promise of a huge payday in that playoff, that's the

928
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: only thing that I theoretically believe could convince G five

929
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 4: presidents and athletic directors to look at it.

930
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 5: I don't know if they would do it.

931
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: But if you put out this not an idea, but

932
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: like a fully formed plan, here's the media partner, here

933
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 4: are the major advertisers. Here's the payoff, here's the subsidy.

934
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: Here's what you're gonna get if you're in it. Here's

935
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 4: what you're gonna get if you win it. Everyone's going

936
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 4: to get something. You're not gonna die on the vine

937
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: over here because you got detached from the main playoff.

938
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 4: Once the money part's taken care of, then you tell

939
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: JMU or Tu Lane you're gonna compete in a tournament

940
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: where you can actually win. Like right now, Jmu's goal

941
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 4: is get to the playoffs so I can get beheaded.

942
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: To Lane's goal, like they're north Star is we can

943
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 4: get into the playoff so we can get annihilated. So

944
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: it's never made sense to me, but g five folks,

945
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 4: many of them will look you straight in the eye

946
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 4: and say, Nope, would much rather have that than our

947
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 4: own separate tournament.

948
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, even the level of separation too.

949
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Like everybody on Jmu's roster or Tu Lane's roster, even

950
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: though they're going in to get beheaded in the Costwall playoffs.

951
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: Basically everybody's goal in that building is play well enough

952
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: to then get picked up by from somebody bigger.

953
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

954
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we got into the playoff this year,

955
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: can't wait for all of us to come back like

956
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: strengthen this if we get an il. We're coming back

957
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: JMU two lane, We're coming for blood next year. Yeah,

958
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Even if they were to win,

959
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, they probably never win a game, but if

960
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: they won a game.

961
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: You can see them winning a game.

962
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: Let's just say they wont a game in a simulation,

963
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: then the mindset for everybody still on that team is

964
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: the exact same.

965
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 5: Can kill them out.

966
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're trying to level up.

967
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: Like every coach is trying to get a bigger job,

968
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: every player is trying to get plucked by somebody from

969
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: the P four.

970
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 4: Now Here's what the intellectually dishonest counter argument would be. Okay,

971
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 4: isn't every kid that may play for TCU trying to

972
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: do that for Texas?

973
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 5: Isn't every kid that plays.

974
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: At I don't know, like Arkansas trying to do that

975
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 4: for Alabama? Like people will say that the answer is yes.

976
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 4: The difference is you've got to at some point pool

977
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 4: teams based on some kind of comparability. The comparability is resource.

978
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: That's just like when people say, well, yeah JMU got

979
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: blown out against Oregon, but Tennessee got blown out against

980
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: Ohio State last year. Does that mean Tennessee doesn't belong

981
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: in the playoff, which is one reason I don't track

982
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: in that argument because they can get you on that. No,

983
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that. Because Tennessee has comparable resources to

984
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: Ohio State, they have athletes that can compete on the

985
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: field with Ohio State. Like, yes, they got blown out

986
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 4: in that game. The difference is if you play that

987
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: game one hundred times, there's some very competitive games. There's

988
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 4: some Tennessee wins in there, believe it or not. There

989
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: are no JMU wins over Oregon. And it's not because

990
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 4: you don't believe in them or think they should have

991
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: a shot. It's because there is a certain facet like

992
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: there's a certain level in football where it's a non starter.

993
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: Like it's I call it the freeze point. A lot

994
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: of times water if it's thirty three degrees or one

995
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 4: hundred and three degrees will not freeze. It has to

996
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: be thirty two point four or lower thirty two six,

997
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: whatever it is before it freezes. Those rosters don't meet

998
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 4: the freeze point, they don't even get close to meeting

999
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: the freeze point. And so like I just think that

1000
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 4: if you're looking at an Arkansas Alabama versus a jmu Organ,

1001
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: you're intellectually dishonest if you're making that argument, because even

1002
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 4: if you're making the argument, you know, Arkansas Alabama versus

1003
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 4: JMU Organ are totally different classifications of quote unquote separation.

1004
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: You got to classify teams and group teams. At some point,

1005
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: there's going to be a worst and a best in

1006
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: any bubble. The difference is if the bubble's thirty teams

1007
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 4: deep versus one hundred and thirty teams deep, that first

1008
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: bubble makes a lot more sense to me.

1009
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: Okay, which jacket does notre dame fall in?

1010
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: Which tournament did they get in?

1011
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 5: I would put them in the head bubble.

1012
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 4: I would just make them earn their way in like

1013
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: everyone else, which they didn't this last time.

1014
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 5: But they got a new Uh we wrote a new

1015
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 5: law for them right to get in. Yeah.

1016
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: No, that's a great law. It's a great law.

1017
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: It's interesting.

1018
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: Okay, everybody that played.

1019
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's play the game where there's a G five.

1020
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: There's a G five tournament every single year. Ye let's

1021
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: say one school will just say JMU or two lane

1022
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: win that tournament like five or eight out of ten.

1023
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: Years, just like the FCS in North Dakota State.

1024
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: Right, and they're just over and over, always crushing it.

1025
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: And then you have like the lower SEC Big ten

1026
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: schools that are constantly at the bottle over and over again.

1027
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: Is there a.

1028
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 5: Relegation promotion and relegation?

1029
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: Is there is there a world that you would want

1030
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: to live in?

1031
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what else I would love to do.

1032
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 4: I would love that to exist. I would also love

1033
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 4: I think they do this in European soccer. I know

1034
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: nothing about European soccer. They do promotion relegation. What they

1035
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: also do is pay I forget what the term is.

1036
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 5: But it's a fee.

1037
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: Basically, if you're JMU and I'm Oregon and I take

1038
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: five of your players, I am paying a penalty to

1039
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 4: you to take those players from you, which I've always

1040
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: thought should exist. Right now, it's a joke what P

1041
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: four does to the G five, But it's also a

1042
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: joke what the G five does to FCS. It's not

1043
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 4: like this is a this is a one way street

1044
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: here like the G five.

1045
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 5: I was talking to a guy.

1046
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 4: From Mercer the other day, which is just a FCS

1047
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: school in Macon, Georgia, but they're pretty good.

1048
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 5: They go play the.

1049
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 4: Big boys every year, take their check, take their beating.

1050
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 4: He laid out their roster and which players have been

1051
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 4: poached and what they're being offered. And it's like Georgia

1052
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: State came and got this kid, Troy came and got

1053
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 4: these kids, UAB came and got these kids.

1054
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 5: So the G five the same thing.

1055
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: It's just much less talked about because no one cares

1056
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 4: about the FCS relative to talking about P four G five.

1057
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 4: I would love for there to be a restitution structure

1058
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 4: anytime you're taking talent, because that's really what in the

1059
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: long run, could reinvest in those programs and help them

1060
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 4: level up to where eventually they're consistently good, they can

1061
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: retain their players, and then if they're good enough, they

1062
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: can be promoted up a level. And if you suck

1063
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: at that upper level, you're not taking advantage of your resources.

1064
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: You could fall down the ladder. Now I just said

1065
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: that in like two minutes. That's very easy. You got

1066
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 4: so many spider webs to untangle there with conference affiliation,

1067
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 4: not to name the other few, to where yeah, it's

1068
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: very difficult to make that a rule or make that

1069
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: the new structure.

1070
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: But we're just playing perfect Unicorn world here.

1071
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we got a blank we got a we

1072
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: got a blank sheet. Yeah I want.

1073
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah for me, it's just that everybody who loves college football,

1074
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: the sport is becoming more and more popular every year.

1075
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 2: A lot of people, Hey, it's my favorite sport to watch.

1076
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: Just when you're looking at the playoffs, this is the

1077
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: most you know, competitive, you want the most competitive tournament

1078
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: possible in our favorite sport that we're all watch.

1079
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, that vibe Saturday night was bad.

1080
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Oregon organ JMU and then Tulane

1081
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: O miss Like you're watching A and M Miami. You're

1082
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: watching Bama Oklahoma and then the other games, like you're

1083
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: checking into see is there even gonna be a fighting shot?

1084
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: Oh it's thirty four to three. I don't even care

1085
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: to watch the rest of this football. Oh, Jami, you

1086
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: ended up putting thirty four points on the board. I

1087
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: wonder if it wass it gets backed ups whatever it is. Yeah,

1088
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: but you're not you just you don't care to watch

1089
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: those games at all. And like, imagine the world. I know,

1090
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: obviously I spout about the Notre Dame stuff, but imagine

1091
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: Notre Dame BYU or Vaney that would have been in

1092
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: the playoff or in some of these games this year.

1093
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like tuned in, excited to see what's what's

1094
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 2: gonna go down.

1095
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: Because they're watching real conferences, real independence that say hey,

1096
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: we're just as big as the big dogs. We're gonna

1097
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: go prove ourselves because everybody wants to see the power forwards,

1098
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 3: like who is the best at the end of this year.

1099
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna have the conversations wherever it was the national championship, whatever,

1100
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: if it's Big ten SEC, We're all gonna sit there

1101
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: and be like, this is the best conference. Now, top

1102
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: the top of the top is the best conference. You're

1103
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: not getting that without getting like Vanderbilt to go to Oregon,

1104
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: Like that would have been a game I think we

1105
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: all tuned into. Hell, we even maybe go to because

1106
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: we have multiple dogs in that fight. And then we

1107
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: make the trip to Eugene over going to a M Miami, right,

1108
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: because you're right, there was two games this weekend. Everything

1109
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: else was, Hey, congratulations.

1110
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Speaker 1: If there happened to be that G five team that

1111
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: is ranked in the top fifteen, Top twelve Cincinnati from

1112
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: five years ago, Yeah, like you're still you'd be curious cycle.

1113
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: Let's see if they can they can rock with the

1114
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: big dogs. Yeah, if they do, it's much more entertaining

1115
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: and fun to watch. It's just we all knew how

1116
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: these games were going to go down.

1117
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: Over the world.

1118
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: It's always obvious when AG five team actually belongs in

1119
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 4: the playoff. There have been several Bois's, a couple of ucfs,

1120
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: that Cincinnati team from just a few years back before

1121
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: they joined the Big Twelve. Those teams Cincinnati made the

1122
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 4: four team playoff, and I remember like vividly saying, yeah,

1123
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: I think they belong in. I didn't push back on it.

1124
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 4: It's not like you're blanketly anti G five. It's you

1125
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 4: want deserving teams.

1126
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 5: In the playoffs.

1127
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: The other thing is I don't believe in comparing basketball

1128
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: to football at all. But for the people who do

1129
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 4: go down that road of comparing the NCAA tournament and

1130
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: March Madness to the college football playoff, and they're like this, man,

1131
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 4: we want to.

1132
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 5: Cinderell lah blah blah blah.

1133
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 4: I enjoy watching like a George Mason go up against

1134
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 4: Duke in the first round. Point spread maybe twenty four

1135
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: and a half. But there is something in the back

1136
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: of my mind that tells me this could happen. It's unlikely,

1137
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 4: but it could happen. And also I enjoy watching the

1138
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: kids have that experience. There is nothing fun to me

1139
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 4: about watching JMU or Tulane be on the same field

1140
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 4: in any kind of competitive playoff environment with legit like

1141
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: top ten caliber Big ten and SEC teams. And the

1142
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: other dirty secret from the past. Two dirty secrets from

1143
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: the past. The first dirty secret is most of the

1144
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: great G five teams people use in these arguments to

1145
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 4: prop up the G five will never exist again because

1146
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: all the talent got rated in the modern acte number two.

1147
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 4: And this is one that gets pushed back, but I

1148
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 4: don't care because I know it's true. Most of the

1149
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: examples people use Utah, Alabama, UCF, Auburn, whatever the case

1150
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: may be. It was a G five team playing their

1151
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: Super Bowl against some SEC or Big ten team that

1152
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 4: missed out on their goal, and now they're playing a

1153
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 4: consolation bowl game, so you got disproportionate motivation and buy

1154
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 4: in this last weekend is actually what it looks like

1155
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: when a G five inferior opponent gets the full focus

1156
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: of a power program. That's what that actually looks like

1157
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: I had an Auburn kid in twenty seventeen. They beat

1158
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 4: Alabama and Georgia. Then they go to the SEC championship game,

1159
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: Kerrie and Johnson's hurt. They get beat by Georgia, and

1160
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: they go from thinking they're going to go to the

1161
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: playoff or whatever win the SEC to they're going to

1162
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 4: play in the Peach Bowl against UCF. I had one

1163
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: of the kids telling me this is not one of

1164
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 4: the six biggest games of our season. UCF has a

1165
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: banner in their building because they won that game. Yeah,

1166
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: just to give you a idea of how different that was, said, Yeah.

1167
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: I think we covered it. Yeah, is there anything boys

1168
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 3: we miss? Anything in the back here, Jared? I know

1169
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 3: you big colforotball guys. Everything you got. Shout out, shout

1170
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: out Alaholma, thank you for the hot dogs, Thank you

1171
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: for the hot dogs. YEP.

1172
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: As an observer of the weekend, it was like, I'm

1173
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: sitting there, I'm hearing about what happened to the boys,

1174
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: what happened to my boys. Then I see Pete's got

1175
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: his Rollerdex of content coming out where he's.

1176
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: On the field. All those things, I'm like, damn, and all.

1177
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 3: The things all the things that went down. I'm sitting

1178
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: there at the end, we're flying back. Jared's sleeping with

1179
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: his mouth wide open. JP and are having a good conversation,

1180
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: and I'm just thinking, the one time Will doesn't come

1181
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 3: with us, it all falls apart. It's where I'm gonna

1182
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: have to go and tell club what happened, tell ESPN

1183
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: what happened. And I'm gonna have to get on the

1184
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: phone with the Will and be like, this is what happened,

1185
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: and it sucked.

1186
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: I see my boys just in the top road like

1187
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: the wind blow and eating popcorn. And then I go

1188
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: to Pet's timeline and he's in the backstage betting the dog.

1189
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 5: He bet it up.

1190
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't get the red carpet rolled out.

1191
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: He's you know what, we know.

1192
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: It's good for us with the boys though, is this

1193
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: has been twenty twenty five has been an incredible year

1194
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: for us. It's been awesome. I mean our relationship, the

1195
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: locker room, the traveling, all the things doing ESPN. We

1196
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: have been like Icarus, dude. We have been flying towards

1197
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: the sun. It was about damn time we fell a

1198
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: little bit. So actually shout out Oklahoma because we needed

1199
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 3: a good humbling. We needed it.

1200
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: Go ahead on the on that topic. On the flight there,

1201
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: do you remember you just being like, man, everything is perfect?

1202
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 3: Could yes?

1203
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: And it was.

1204
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: It wasn't the flight to Oklahoma. It was a fight

1205
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: from Oklahoma after everything happened. And I'm thinking, dealt with

1206
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: a bad bad egg like that happens sometimes. And I'm

1207
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: like sitting there reflecting with all the boys, like how

1208
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 3: cool has this year been? And it feels like every

1209
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: year is its own, like whole lifetime that takes place. Yeah,

1210
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: and we're all like kind of shaking her heads and

1211
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 3: being like, yeah, dude, it's awesome. Go to sleep, wake up.

1212
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: Hell is taking place. And I literally have somebody from

1213
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 3: ESPN saying what people said about you guys in Oklahoma.

1214
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: They reference it to a terrorist attack.

1215
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 5: I can't believe you can even fly. You should be

1216
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 5: able to list right now.

1217
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: Taylor's sleeping, the boys are sleeping.

1218
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 3: I'm jumping my bad dude, and I'm like, oh, this

1219
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: is a good humbling for us, Like we stay in

1220
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: Ritz Carlton for this, let's get in this holiday, like, oh,

1221
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: we're everyone's great beds are actually relatively comfortable to sit there.

1222
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: Wake up.

1223
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: Ah, decent night's sleep.

1224
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 5: Look at my phone.

1225
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: Hell grenade great, Hell.

1226
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you. I told

1227
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: you allfare I'm gonna tell you on air. I'm at

1228
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 4: Oklahoma fair amount. I storm Chase in Oklahoma National Weather

1229
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: Services on the campus of the University of Oklahoma. So

1230
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 4: me and Oklahoma. So I vouched for Oklahoma. However I

1231
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 4: vouch for you as well. And so I think, probably

1232
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: from a mediator standpoint, I got work to do. Maybe

1233
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 4: I take this personally. Maybe this is kind of on me.

1234
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: I haven't taken responsibility for anything on the show all year,

1235
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: so maybe it's time. Maybe it's time for me to

1236
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 4: take my first l So I'm gonna fix this. I

1237
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: gotta find a way to fix it.

1238
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you our game plan. We've said our peace.

1239
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit back and pretend like it never

1240
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: happened until somebody. I'm just gonna sit in the pocket now.

1241
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 3: I'm be like, hopef we gets figured out. It's not

1242
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: we're stressing about Christmas shopping to do or I'm like

1243
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: kind of stressed about that.

1244
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, God.

1245
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 3: Stalking the Perfect is a storm chasing with Josh and

1246
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: that one individual. Make them come with you as attorney does.

1247
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: Coming just.

1248
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 5: For clarification. I don't want to clarify what the world

1249
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 5: happened here.

1250
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 3: Don't even worry about it. You'll find out it's single storm.

1251
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: Jason just die.

1252
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: Someone fell out.

1253
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 4: We don't allow done okay from an insurance From an

1254
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Speaker 2: I'm kidding.

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Speaker 1: I would never Oh big gug Sinny kisses, Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 1: We love you.

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