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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the rap rate off podcasts. My name

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Speaker 1: is beat Ott Ellie Wilson Ellie. I think we're down

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Speaker 1: with the Terroort squad officially now, yeah.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get no sneakers though, Man, what's going on

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Speaker 2: with that?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: We did an amazing interview with Fat Joe and Mayor

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Speaker 4: and I ain't getting no sneaking sent to Miles.

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Speaker 2: So I was got no boxes or nothing about you.

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Speaker 1: Now Joe didn't come to Queen's and pull up with

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Speaker 1: I got to hit him up about that.

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Speaker 4: Man, size twelve man, Yeah, I remembo. I was at

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Speaker 2: Clark Kent was the bully on the block.

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Speaker 4: No, but I mean every dealer at Obie Dealer that

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Speaker 4: Oh, if they got If they got a twelve first

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Speaker 4: I was a size twelve, it would go to Clark

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Speaker 4: So I'd be lucky if anything was left, you know

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Speaker 1: If it's size twelve. Clark wont sin Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the point of week go our Air Force ones

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Speaker 2: Took like eight pairs of size twelve. I took everything

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Speaker 3: But I'm not mad.

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Speaker 4: But Yo, everybody love to fat joint of you, right,

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Speaker 4: Everybody love us to Joey krack Man nigg Joe is

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Speaker 4: like I always say that the best for cancer and

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Speaker 1: And you know, you're engrossed, you're entertained, you laugh, you cry,

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Speaker 1: like Joe Man, I said, people don't believe you. They

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Speaker 1: called him the Joey capp I said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I would do it over my next album,

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Speaker 4: Got lead into it, man, But it's funny. I'll talk

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Speaker 4: to you Ellie like I did something with my GQ

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Speaker 4: for it's the online version, and he had told me

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Speaker 4: If it's not on video medic the public today doesn't

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Speaker 4: And all the websites picked us up. Man, we was

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Speaker 2: This amazing year rap, That amazing year.

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Speaker 1: nothing other than the African giant himself, burn a boy,

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Speaker 2: We had him before, men, what are you getting?

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Speaker 3: We first in with him.

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Speaker 4: You know, I met It's funny because after we did

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Speaker 2: I met the whole tribe. Man, I met the whole cruise.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I like to do album a lot too.

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Speaker 4: It's very hip hop influence. We got Rizzo all over

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beat us a genius for digging up these things.

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Speaker 3: Man. Again, people to.

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Speaker 4: Talk about some real things, like I didn't even remember

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Speaker 4: It's it's crazy, man, man, burn body got to be

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Speaker 4: Burner boy. You gotta be careful out there.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm saying, give make it too much money?

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Speaker 2: I have too successful, man.

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Speaker 1: So what else to do it for them?

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Speaker 4: And it don't make your own sandwiches anymore? Man, Come on, man,

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Speaker 4: it's well, it's a help with that, man. Somebody we

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Speaker 1: I don't think that should be too hard man.

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Speaker 4: Now, but this is a hard talking to This guy

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Speaker 4: made super cool mass easy listen, man, and I.

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Speaker 2: Got said we're going to that. Can I tell you

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Speaker 1: That put it in the tuck, keep it in the tok.

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Speaker 2: On man, that's anohing, it's another Can I give it

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Speaker 2: a hit?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: No, all right, d don't let me tease anything. Company man,

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Speaker 4: beat Out, goddamn it. We deliver what the people want.

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Speaker 4: I think people a gonn appreciate this Burntherway conversation. Let's

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Speaker 3: Name is beat Out, beat Out. What's up? Baby?

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Speaker 4: I'm good man, feeling good, feeling great man because this

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Speaker 4: guy Man, last time we saw this guy, yes, he

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Speaker 1: Yes, now he's a super superstar.

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Speaker 3: Burn the boy back. I'm blessed man again. It's been

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Speaker 3: a million years.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it's been a million years, but you've

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Speaker 3: I mean, everything is all right. You know, I'm doing

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Speaker 3: obviously I'm still working, yes, yeah, so'st It's some temporary celebrations,

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Speaker 1: All like the hardest working man in the world right now.

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Speaker 3: I told you the stadiums filled up. You know what

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about this album. I told him, man, like,

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Speaker 1: I told him, you know what I mean, it's something

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Speaker 4: I love the Towle track too, because you be popping

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Speaker 4: saying that popping your ship like bragging and boasting kind of.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not for me. That's not even bragging

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Speaker 4: What was specific that you could create this sound and

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Speaker 4: it could go, it could travel and go across genre

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Speaker 4: like what specifically? Many people didn't want to I'm telling you, bro,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not just that I'll be successful. It wasn't even

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Speaker 3: Yeah. This there's a lot of kongor fu. Why was

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say like that and jesup popping is

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Speaker 3: I told you I'm the newest member hip hop's fifty

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Speaker 3: It's great, It's and on to thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, everything coming a long way. You get me. Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What do you remember is the remember the first time

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Speaker 3: I like I like iron Man, I like that's my man.

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Speaker 3: it's like there's so much behind some ship, like you

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Speaker 3: Now it's my ship, I told them yet me.

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Speaker 1: But did you select Jizz personally or did you have

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Speaker 3: I needed the ship in the beginning because it's like

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Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, I needed that genius in the

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Speaker 1: And of course Versa got his own solo track.

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Speaker 3: With the Jewels of course, twelve Jews twelve Jews?

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Speaker 3: Like, how did that? Man? It's like there is always

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Speaker 1: Really, is it any Drew that stood out the most

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Speaker 3: Everything is, there's no everything comes. Everything is. You can'd

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Speaker 4: You need to do you know, right, Let's let him

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Speaker 4: know knowledge with them understanding, freedom, justice, equality, food, clothing, shelter, love,

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Speaker 3: You see it boy? Or just shines through. It's like

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Speaker 1: It was dope to see him in the risk in

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Speaker 4: Except another one where he was popping the ship. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The head, sure, but New York City has a real

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. That's the City Field, City Field.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like I'm a part of the fabric. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: What what it changes is is obviously my money. You

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Speaker 1: You know, you're like a workhouse. Because Ellie and I

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Speaker 3: With your leg. No, no, no, here's so check the script.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, like in landed. It's like some destiny ship.

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Speaker 3: Make it look like I'm you know, because I realized

437
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 3: everyone is scared again suit for some ship out here.

438
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 3: So it's like the ship has nothing to do with you.

439
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: It's trying to make some Peter jelly. Yeah you know

440
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 3: what I mean.

441
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: So it's like, but you're good now though, right of course?

442
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 4: Okay, what made you flip your brandy sitting on top.

443
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 3: Of the world. I literally just do what I want, man,

444
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 3: literally just having fun with it right now at this

445
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 3: point in time, because it's like you have to understand, man,

446
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: I've been doing this for too long. I wouldn't even

447
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: say there's no such thing as doing it for too

448
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: long when it's something you love. But it's like, realistically,

449
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 3: I've been here since twenty ten, wow, you know what

450
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 3: I mean. So it's like this is the and it's

451
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 3: like it's not really like I'm doing anything too different musically,

452
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,719
Speaker 3: because it's like I've always done everything I would like

453
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 3: that's my playground, you know what I mean. But now

454
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: it's a lot. Now it's like I'm in a much

455
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 3: freer place, you know, where it's like fuck it, Brandy, Yeah,

456
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 3: I can do anything I can afford to do it,

457
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 3: you know, Like it's like I could just have fun

458
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: with it now, you know. So, yeah, that's what I'm doing.

459
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 4: What made you put twenty one Savage on that joint?

460
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 4: What do you think he added to it? Twenty one?

461
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 4: He added him to it?

462
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 3: You know, Like, man, he's actually one of the rappers

463
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 3: that actually fuck with because it's like he doesn't you know,

464
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: when it's not forced, you know what, It's like it's

465
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 3: almost like he's just talking, yeah, you know what I mean.

466
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: And I'm not even talking about him as a person now,

467
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: like because that's another like I fuck with that too,

468
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: like sports stand up nigga. But at the same time,

469
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: it's like rap music is it's either very serious or

470
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 3: it's not very serious, right, and he just finds a

471
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 3: way to just be somewhere in the middle, you know.

472
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 3: And that's what I fuck with music plague with his shirt,

473
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: So that's why I wanted to work with him. The authenticity.

474
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: Have you had conversations with Brandy yet?

475
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 3: No? No? Yet?

476
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm sure she likes the record, I hope.

477
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: So what do you feel about, you know, the criticism

478
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: these days coming from fans about sampling because it's a

479
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: prominent sample sitting on top of the world, and it

480
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: seems like there's been coming a lot of backlash from

481
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: fans about artists using samples that I guess aren't as

482
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: old and you know Dusty from.

483
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 3: Like back in the day days. I mean, for me,

484
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 3: it comes down to two things I understand. One is

485
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: either I don't feel like well, I'll speak for myself again, right,

486
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna speak for generally because I don't know

487
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: I feel me, but for myself, as far as I'm concerned,

488
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: every time I ever seen someone complain about that, there's

489
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: an agenda behind it. It's not the sampling they have

490
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: a problem with. It's either me they have a problem with,

491
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: or something I represent they have a problem with, or something.

492
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: It's something it's not. It has nothing to do with

493
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: the with the sampling, because at the end of the day,

494
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: all the greatest musicians on earth have sampled way more

495
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: than I have. You know what I mean. All the

496
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: musicians that their fat whoever is complaining about is a

497
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: fan of, has sampled some ship more than I have. Yeah, man,

498
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: it's like it goes deeper than that, you know. So

499
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 3: for me, it's like it makes no different. I'm gonna

500
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: do what I want at the end of the day

501
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 3: is long is. I'm enjoying it, and it's what I's

502
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: what It's what I have in my mind to do.

503
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: You feel me, it's like none of them. For me,

504
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: it's like without the samples or whatever, the song will

505
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: still be the same as far as I'm concerned. Like

506
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: speaking for me, But if I put a sample on there,

507
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 3: it's either because the producer did that and I have

508
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 3: no idea about the ship, or there's something I want.

509
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: There's a message I want to put across the ads

510
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: to the message I've already, you know what I mean.

511
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: It's like, for example, for lost Loss right Pig two,

512
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: for example, for that one any beats in the world

513
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: you put that the vocals over, it's it's still gonna

514
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: sooner slap the same way, right, But then I wanted

515
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: to sample that it wasn't mind enough for me ship

516
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: because of the message behind the song, you know what

517
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 3: I mean. Yeah, So it's like a kind of it's

518
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: almost like I wanted to because she's talking about the

519
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 3: opposite of what I'm talking about in her ship, you

520
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So that's kind of why I wanted.

521
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 3: I wanted that that match there, you know what I mean.

522
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: So with that, when you put that together, it's like

523
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: the whole it's like, oh shit, this is what he means,

524
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, So that's really it's

525
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: like if I wanted it to just be a bop

526
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: without if I didn't want, like if there was no message,

527
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: no cheeky little message behind it, like then I wouldn't

528
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It wouldn't be needed, you

529
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But sometimes it is needed. You know.

530
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 3: You want to hear Brady say, you're sitting on top

531
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: of the one exactly exactly I heard it.

532
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been almost a year since your last project.

533
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: When did you start getting the recording process for this?

534
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: I never stopped recording, you do slow down. I never

535
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: stopped recording the album, and I never stopped recording, uh

536
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: my albums, Like I got a bunch of albums right

537
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 3: now that's like ready to go with that might never

538
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: even come out, you know what I mean?

539
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: So after Love the Mind, you're still you're still.

540
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: Writing, Yeah, after I Love Domini. Even before that, there

541
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 3: was supposed to be two albums. They're supposed to come

542
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: out before that. I have the Good AI album, you

543
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean? I have the I had the

544
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: Reckless and Sweet album. But then it's like I don't

545
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: want to do that no more. So it's like that's

546
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: never coming out. Right.

547
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: It was also a roomor that you were supposed to

548
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: be doing a mixtape with the.

549
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, if I could sit you right, yes,

550
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 3: yeah man, But like, yeah, they fucked that up for me.

551
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna what's gonna happen to those unreleased songs?

552
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

553
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to get a Burner Boy Lost Tapes project.

554
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: Speaking of someone we Lost. You paid a lot of

555
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 4: honors to a Virgil album on this project. Can you

556
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 4: speak on your relationship with him and why that was

557
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 4: so import.

558
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean because, man, apart from the fact

559
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: that it was the greatest designer ever, it's like he

560
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: was such a big inspiration to us coming from where

561
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: we're coming from, you know what I mean, Because when

562
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: you see a brand like like, let's not even go

563
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: from pirates and stuff, right, and then to off white

564
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, you know what I mean, It's

565
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: like and then you see the name behind it is

566
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: a name called Virgil Eyeblow. It's like that does something

567
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: to us coming from where we're coming from, because it's like,

568
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: damn like and then you see the nigga and then

569
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 3: these it looks like that, right, he looks like that,

570
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: He talks like that, he thinks like that, you know

571
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: what I mean. And it's like for me that that

572
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: just kind of that just opened the flood gates for us, really,

573
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, in the fashion world, you know.

574
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, that's why I don't I don't really

575
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: play about his name, you know.

576
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: Did you guys have a personal relationship?

577
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: Of course, it was supposed to you to be the

578
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: creative director for the last album. Wow. Yeah, that's why

579
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: the skitch you're hearing Virgil speaking, that's him, me and

580
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: Runnie speaking about the creative direction of the last album,

581
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: like how it was supposed to be. Wow. You know

582
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: when did you find out about it? It's passing, man.

583
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 3: I think I was on the plane on my way

584
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: to London.

585
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: It's still don't seem right, it still seems like surreal.

586
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

587
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: Another person that did make the album, it's Jay Cole.

588
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 1: That was kind of unexpected. Then on the outro, how

589
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: did you with j Cole connect?

590
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: It's a long story. We got time. It's a podcast.

591
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: It's a podcast, baby to say radio. So the first

592
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: time I think he came to that Jurior one time

593
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: and I wasn't around. And then I think Doc kept

594
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: me hitting everybody around, trying to you know, trying to

595
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: connect me and Ja Cole and stuff, because I think

596
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: Jaco wanted to do something on one of the songs

597
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: I had released at the time of some Ship, but

598
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: I wasn't around and stuff, and I had a lot

599
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: going on, you know, away from music that was you

600
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I went my head wasn't

601
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: really in the right place, you know what I mean.

602
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: So fast forward to what last year was it? Last

603
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: year must have been last year. Late last year, we

604
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: came to New York. I don't really know the dynamics

605
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: behind how everything happened, but somehow I end up in

606
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: the studio with J Cole and a bunch of basketball

607
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: players tall as hell, you know. And then yeah, before

608
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: any music, we just we're just all just talking about

609
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: real stuff about life and everything really, you know. And

610
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: and for me it's like I don't really get I

611
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: don't really talk, you know, I don't really like have

612
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: conversations with people that don't really live with me and

613
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: stuff like that, you know, Like and I have them

614
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 3: long conversations like that. So for me, it's like I

615
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: found myself just going off and just uncomfortable. Yeah, it's

616
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: just it's just going off really. And then before we start,

617
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: he just goes bro this niggas Tupac and then I

618
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: look around to see who he's talking about. It's me, like,

619
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: like Tupac and app from reincarnated in Africa. Damn, that's

620
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: that's kind of deep. Let's make some music and that's

621
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: the story. Thanks.

622
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: I feel like that record, you know, the funniest ship.

623
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: We didn't even make thanks that. They made some other

624
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: shit and then Thanks kind of happened later on.

625
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: But I was just saying, thanks isn't like this like

626
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: sweet gratitude record. It's like, this is the motherfucker thanks.

627
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: What is by that direction?

628
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: I mean literally feeling like that at some point, you know,

629
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: like I don't feel like that right now. I think

630
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: I'm over it, like you know what I mean. But

631
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: like at the point of me recording that song, that's

632
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: that's how I was feeling. I was feeling like like

633
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm just it's like almost like everything I'm doing just

634
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: didn't matter or they didn't see they didn't understand the

635
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: gravity of what m what I was, what I'm doing

636
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: or trying to trying to do, you know, like and

637
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: even though they ripped, they reaped the rewards, you know

638
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: what I mean, it's like they still don't understand that

639
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: this is where it comes from, this is what's happening,

640
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: This is what this nigga's been trying to do, you

641
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's like that shit kind

642
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: of made me hold up, is this the motherfucking thanks?

643
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: I get bro, Like you know, like but then again

644
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: it's like I do get I do get paid for it.

645
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: So sorry, or you don't feel like you're underrated at

646
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: no point do you.

647
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a word I've kind of I've kind

648
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: of heard about myself throughout my career, Like.

649
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: Cole said, you got the world on smash Yeah.

650
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: But like no, I'm not talking about now. I'm saying,

651
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: like this is hearing not this is the first time

652
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: I heard that for a minute, but like that's something

653
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: I heard almost every day for yeah, the first like

654
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: eight years of my career.

655
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: Wow, you know, so yeah, you're here now though, when

656
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: I got another song that's bubbling on the radio. Man

657
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: can't escape at Talent Bans too big, zech VERTI Void

658
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: touches its gold Man, they can hit record. How'd you

659
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: end up on that record?

660
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: It's just destiny man, you feel me. It's like in life, man,

661
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: just sometimes you don't. Sometimes destiny just happens and it's

662
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: like you just knew it was meant to be, you

663
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's like even the way we

664
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: connected like me Byron and uh Kels and even Prince Swanny,

665
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like these is it's like

666
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: we just met. We met like when we met, but

667
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: then it felt like we just known each other forever,

668
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And for me, that's more

669
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: important than anything else, you know, when it comes to

670
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: this shit. For me, when I come across some shit

671
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: that feels real, it's like I really, I really hold

672
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: on to them things day. You feel me because it

673
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: don't really exist much, you know. So all the people

674
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: you make music with at this point, it's gotta be

675
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: on those terms. It has to be yeah, most likely

676
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: or or you or I get a big check the bag.

677
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: The bag has to be a bag bag.

678
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: But I'm sure you and Dave have good chemistry too.

679
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: He's on My Brother Man sign My brother for real,

680
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: Like yeah, man, I love Dave Man.

681
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: We had him on the back in the day as.

682
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: Well, always telling him it's a weird guy. But like that,

683
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: that's what you get for. That's like the genius shit bro, David.

684
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: David should have been building rockets or some shit, you

685
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like I always ask him why

686
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: you even rapping?

687
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he's also an actor too.

688
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like That's what I'm saying. It's like, why

689
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: are you even doing that? Bro, like you could literally

690
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: be building rockets or some ship. You could be fucking

691
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: inventing time machines or some ship. Bro Like, that's the

692
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: type of that's how kind of mind he's gone. You

693
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: know why.

694
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: I think he was like the right voice for cheat

695
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: on Me, just.

696
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: Because man, Like you know what I mean, It's like

697
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: I don't really like doing so to people, to be honest, man,

698
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: you know. So it's like if I do songs, if

699
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: I only like really doing songs with like like my people,

700
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: you know, like people that I have, you know that

701
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 3: we can talk about do something else other than the music,

702
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: and then go back to the music, you know what

703
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean. Like that's what and that's what Davis. You know.

704
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I think my biggest takeaway from the album as well,

705
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: in addition to the music, is that the run time

706
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: it's like under and now it's an easy listen. Is

707
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: that like the objective this time around?

708
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

709
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the last project was a little

710
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: bit too long?

711
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: Nah? I just feel like I give it. I give

712
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: everybody more than I should do yourself, you know what

713
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: I mean. That's all times and in every aspect of

714
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: my life, I feel like I always give people more

715
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: than I should. So this is me adjusting. You know

716
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: that success help you make that adjustment.

717
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: That's your favorite song to record on this probable that

718
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: every single song was a favorite.

719
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: Process. I mean, like the process of recording the ship.

720
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: Every one of them was an experience for me because

721
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: you know, some of them were in different places that

722
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: I've never been in my life, like if I'm Lying

723
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: with Still Bengals recorded that in Saint Martin. You know,

724
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: I was supposed to do a show, but then the

725
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: rain came and then took the stage away, and then

726
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 3: I couldn't do the show. But then I was stuck

727
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: in Saint Martin for a few days, almost a week,

728
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And Still Beangals was with me,

729
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: so we just made it. That's where we made the

730
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: h the if I'm Lying tune, and we made a

731
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 3: couple of other tunes and you know, put some finishing

732
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: touches on the Mariana song was to do. I liked it.

733
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: From my line is really the acoustic guitar just Bengals

734
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: just literally just went out to the beach in the rain.

735
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: M h. I see the nigg in the rain with

736
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: his laptop on the beach and then it just comes

737
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 3: back and he's like, bro, go ahead, you know, go ahead.

738
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: Then he plays it like ship. And then at the

739
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: time it had a lot of sounds of the of

740
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 3: the waves and the water and stuff on it. But

741
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: then it's like you kind of have to take some

742
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: of that out because it was a bit too much.

743
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 3: But then it's like it's some of it's still there

744
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: if you listen, you know what I mean. But like

745
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: that's really it's just stuff like that that makes me,

746
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: you know, proud of the recording process because it's like

747
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: it was it was it was an experience, you know.

748
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: It has like a Bob Marley kind of feel to it,

749
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, like when I was listening to it, if

750
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm lying, if I'm lying, just well, I don't know

751
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: about that. But what you know about normal? That's I

752
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: think that's my my favorite one so far.

753
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 3: Man.

754
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: That sounds like a hit burner. Man.

755
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: The funniest thing about normal. I recorded that one in

756
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 3: l A. We made I made that song in l

757
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: A and in some studio and then thirty minutes into

758
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: the now actually like ten minutes into the session, Rich

759
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: the kid just comes and yeah, it just comes and

760
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: kicks it with us. It's just kicking it. We're just

761
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: smoking and he's dead the whole time while I'm recording

762
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: the whole song. And then after that, just you just

763
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: that was like, Bro, this is the crazy ship I see.

764
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: And then you just jumped in. He just jumped in

765
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: his car and left, and then I just left. We

766
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: just and then I ain't seen him sincere.

767
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: The kid blessing his beat out what they said, Wow,

768
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: it's crazy do but it sounds like it sounds like something,

769
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it sounds like a hit.

770
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you spoke a lot about hip hop, like

771
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 3: what like we go again.

772
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: We're very very reflective of hip hop with the fiftieth year,

773
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: Like have you connected with that in any way, like

774
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: when you look at how far the cultures going, Like

775
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 4: what's your take on how it's kind of being celebrated.

776
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 3: This whole year. I don't know, you should ask you

777
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: wrap out that question. Me. I'm I'm out here just

778
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: having fun with it and just you know, just I'm

779
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 3: just really I'm kind of just living our childhood dreams,

780
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: you know.

781
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all it is, checking off a lot of

782
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: boxes in one of those childhood dreams. He did win

783
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: the Grammy. Finally. You know, last time we talked, you

784
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: didn't have the Grammy. Yeah, yeah, that means we are

785
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: talking a long time, four years.

786
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 3: Damn. Where is the Grammy? Where do you start? The Grammy?

787
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: Right now? Is in Legos. Yeah, it's one of the

788
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: houses in Legos. You stare at it and just get

789
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: it motivated, like, well, I'm never in Legos, probably there

790
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: like in a month out, the month after twelve and

791
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: the whole yeah right, you know, so it's like when

792
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: I'm there, I just get that. I tried to do everything.

793
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: Because that's the foundation. But that's that's home, you know,

794
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: and second homes London.

795
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: You're mostly in London. Yeah.

796
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 4: I was thinking about some with hip hop too, Like

797
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 4: people ask me all the time with the like what's

798
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 4: the future of hip hop?

799
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: And you know, you're hit part of hip hop? Right

800
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: obviously not this is the future. That's literally why I

801
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 3: was going with it.

802
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: I was trying to tell people like the way people

803
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: love you know, aprofusion, these type of sounds like you

804
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 4: understand exactly you.

805
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: Speak to that like even someone like you know with

806
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: you even a deca. So it's a much like this, right,

807
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: you see how this table is this circle that's life

808
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: and everything in it. It's a circle. The world there's

809
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: a circle. Everything is a circle. So music and everything,

810
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: it's a circle. Ye starts from the motherland Africa, what

811
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: was around everywhere blah blah blah, right, goes through what

812
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: it goes through, changes, blah blah blah, comes back mm

813
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: hm to the motherland. And you know when it left

814
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: the motherland, it was just it was like a seed.

815
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: Now it's gone and come around and it's it's everything.

816
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: So now we're throwing it back around again, you know

817
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's just it's just gonna keep going

818
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: like that, you know. So at the end of the day,

819
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: it's like for me, hip hop is not hip hop

820
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: is is a lot deeper than rapping or dancing or

821
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: or you know what I mean. It's like hip hop

822
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: is it's everything now, you know what I mean. Everything

823
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 3: is hip hop now, absolutely, you know what I mean.

824
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: So it's like and it's like apart from the fact

825
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: that everything is hip hop now, it's like we're in

826
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: the point in life right now where there's all the

827
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: lines are basically so blurred. There's no genres anymore. Really

828
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: and truly and realistically, there's no there's no more genres.

829
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: It's like we saw just one big part. Now you've

830
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: been a major force in that change, of course, So

831
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: that's that's really what it is now. So for me,

832
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: it's gone round and it's come back and become this part, right,

833
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And at the end of

834
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: the day, man, it tastes great, It tastes great. You

835
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: just joined.

836
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: Will be your name burna ship burner, just burning, that's

837
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: who will get a beato. But you are the pioneer

838
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: of afrofusion, like you. Even they credit you for creating

839
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: that remy category. How does that feel? You didn't have

840
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: the grammy. Now you have a whole category kind of

841
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: inspired by your whole movement.

842
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: Ship. I don't really like to First of all, it's

843
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: God that did it, you know what I mean, You

844
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: don't mind. But for me, it's like I just wanted

845
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: to create something that that was me, you know, because

846
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 3: I'm not someone that is bound by any by any

847
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: any any brackets or any boxes or any you know

848
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: what I mean. I've never been so it's like I've

849
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: always needed my freedom, you know what I mean. And

850
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: a profusion is that freedom for me? That's why I

851
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: created it, you know what I mean. And it's like

852
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: it's not like it's not like people weren't free before

853
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: I created the termine for fusion, for fusion and stuff,

854
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Because there was artists that

855
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: was free minded also and also didn't believe in whatever

856
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: box they were trying to put them in, you know

857
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: what I mean. But for me, it's like I really

858
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 3: didn't want to be more than anyone else. I feel

859
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: like I didn't want to be put in no box,

860
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 3: you know. So I created a box that you could

861
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: put every box in the box in the box, you know.

862
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: So that's really what afrofusion is for me. And yeah,

863
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: that's why that's why it's so great now because it's

864
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: like now you hear it, you can hear anything, any

865
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: kind of music, you can hear it, and then you

866
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: be like, oh, you try to find what it is?

867
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: Is this is this afrobeats? Is this R and B?

868
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 3: Is this no nigga? This afrofusion because it's like, yeah,

869
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: an afrofusion is anything you want it to be. You know,

870
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: it's not it's not a strict genre. It's not it's

871
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: not even a genre. It's just it just is, you know,

872
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: and I will and hopefully the Grammys understand that, you know,

873
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: and don't try to make it so streamlined and be like, oh,

874
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: only one type of you know, only fucking I don't

875
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: know how to explain it, man, But what did you do?

876
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: Even with I guess it ties into the album title, right,

877
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: I told him. It's like if young artists, I'm sure

878
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: people tell you try to make your music this way

879
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: or fifty certain and you're saying, no, you're free with

880
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: your art exactly. You don't need to there's no formula

881
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: to make it hit, or you don't even need a hit.

882
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 3: I don't even like that word here, like for music,

883
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: you know, because it kind of takes away the essence

884
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: of it, you know. It's it's like music should be

885
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: like me spitting out myself, a version of myself that

886
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: can never that doesn't have pashable skin, you know what

887
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: I mean. I feel like that's what it should be.

888
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 3: And then when it now starts being dictated and determined

889
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: by this journal or that books and this, it's no

890
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 3: longer me. It not becomes static estatic instead of me

891
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: leaving myself, you know, what I mean. I hope I'm

892
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: makeing sense. I tend to sound crazy, and.

893
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 4: Then then it connects to the people and then you

894
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: can go back and say I told them people that

895
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: didn't believe you could do it exactly and.

896
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: Ins addition to the success, you know you ain't do

897
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: it by yourself. You have this team that I'm a fan.

898
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: I have a team.

899
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: I have my family family, like talk about their role

900
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: in you know, your trajectory and your success because it's

901
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: it's been the same team, same same family forever. Right,

902
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: Like you have your mom on as your manager.

903
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: You can't change your family. Trust me. I'll be wanting

904
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: to a lot, but you can't. So. But some can't

905
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: make it work. Why do you think you're able to

906
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: make it work? My vision? What I want is what

907
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: is going to happen. I'm gonna make it happen, you know,

908
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: regardless of whatever, I'm gonna make sure it happens because

909
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: this is what I want. You know, this is how bro,

910
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 3: God has created us in his image. Even the Bible

911
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: says right and God says, let that be light, and

912
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 3: there was light. What does I tell you that means

913
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: you can do that shit too? He's giving you that

914
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: you understand. Now, if you don't know you can do it,

915
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: that's where you don't have knowledge of self. You understand.

916
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: I have knowledge of self. I know that when I

917
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: want light, I'm gonna say, let that be light, and

918
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: in my eyes, I'm going to see that light. It

919
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: might take a bit longer for you to see that light,

920
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 3: but I see it and I'm telling you it's there,

921
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: but you can't see it yet, and then eventually it

922
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: just it just gets blinded. How do you maintain that

923
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: patient stuff for artists?

924
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: Like, like you said, you're not an overnight sensation, right

925
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 4: working It's been a long journey. I think a lot

926
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 4: of times artists will get frustrated if they don't have

927
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: instant results, and especially a younger generation, they expect to

928
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 4: get their TikTok thing or something that's gonna pop off fast,

929
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: and if it doesn't, they might not keep that same

930
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 4: drive of the music.

931
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: Like what do you think that that's not what they

932
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: should be doing? They shouldn't be doing music? Then should

933
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 3: I try to tell the boy they should be doing

934
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: There should be YouTubers or something connected to that, you know,

935
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: because music is not that, you know, music is not

936
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: it's not perishable goods. It's not you know what I mean.

937
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: It's not a quick fix. Know, it's life. You understand

938
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 3: felt I said, music is spiritual. If you play with music,

939
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: you die yourng That's how deep he saw it. There's

940
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: a reason why he saw it like that and why

941
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: he said that, you understand, and I be. I spent

942
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: my whole life looking for the reason why he said that,

943
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: on what it really meant. And when I found out,

944
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: it's like, bruh, it wasn't even that deep. It was

945
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: so simple. It was literally so simple, man, you know.

946
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: So yeah, And it's so simple that I can't even

947
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: say it here because it's like our understanding may be

948
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 3: different and understand. It's like wisdom and knowledge I may give,

949
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 3: but understanding is up to you. I understand. Now there's

950
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: some things where there's some wisdom and knowledg is that

951
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: I can't afford for your understanding to ruin, So I

952
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 3: just keep those to myself. You know that makes sense.

953
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 4: But those in the right path, like what do you

954
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: think it was for you to try to keep us

955
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 4: saying that patience to that drive that it's gonna I'm

956
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 4: gonna be able to one day say, I told them.

957
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: And that's really what that's that's what I'm explaining to

958
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 3: you as I said, that's not what they should be doing. Yeah,

959
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: because it's not that it's like for me. If it's

960
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to be doing. You don't need that patience,

961
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: you don't. You don't see it like that. It's just natural.

962
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: Just yeah, you know what I mean. Self confidence of

963
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 3: a line. It is good to have to but that

964
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: doesn't come from nowhere, you understand, it comes from your

965
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: reality and what you your knowledge, your understanding, you know

966
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: what I mean, that's where it comes from.

967
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: Because it seems like after yay, you know, you was

968
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: going this way and then last last came and you

969
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: just kind of went through the stress.

970
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: That's fair like, well see that's how you see it.

971
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: I see it different, really, yeah, I see it as

972
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 3: I went through the stratus for the minute I was

973
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: I got let back into the UK in twenty sixteen.

974
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: Since as soon as my leg touched that sort what

975
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 3: uncle see? What did I say? After I thank God

976
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: and all that, I.

977
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: Said, it's over for y'all, y'all be the title next now, I.

978
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: Said, I said, that's it's over because The only reason

979
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: it wasn't over the whole time is because I wasn't

980
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 3: allowed to leave my content a really for seven years

981
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: of my whole career, you know. So that's that's a

982
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: head start for everyone and for you know what I mean. Yeah,

983
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: So it's like for me, I've just always known. I've

984
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: just always known myself. You know, really all this, you know,

985
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: you told them, I told them, and you won, yes, sir,

986
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: and you put on for the city boys. Man, boys

987
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: believe now with this album.

988
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: Man, thank you too long, and we'll pull up in

989
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:18,959
Speaker 4: legos when you're.

990
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: Ready to man, I'm ready when for you A man,

991
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: I go back. I'm not sure after this little promo run,

992
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: We'll let you get another Grammy, get another Grammy. We'll

993
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: go to Grammy. It might be too crazy for you then,

994
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: because my people love Grammys.

995
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,320
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996
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997
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,480
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1000
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