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Speaker 1: Welcome back Happy Hour listeners, and I couldn't do another

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Speaker 1: week of Katie season without my girl Tasia alongside me.

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Speaker 1: She is back to chat about everything from this second episode.

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Speaker 1: So welcome back, Tasha, Hi, my little Happy Hour listeners.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited to be back and give y'all

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Speaker 1: a little bit more tea about this season. But I'm

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Speaker 1: most excited for our guest today, the Bachelorette herself, Katie

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Speaker 1: is joining us, and I just like, can't wait. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a good episode of Bachela Happy Hour. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait. We haven't had Katie on Bachelor Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: since she was on Matt season, which was four ever ago. Crazy,

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Speaker 1: it's been so long. I mean, it just feels like

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Speaker 1: eons ago that we had her on, and like, I

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Speaker 1: her with us. So we're gonna bring her on very shortly.

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Speaker 1: But before we do chat with her, we just have

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Speaker 1: to get into last night's episode. We saw a lot

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Speaker 1: go down. We obviously were left with the cliff hanger.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to actually have Katie on though, because you know,

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Speaker 1: we can chat about all of the dirt and the

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Speaker 1: tea and what went down with her. But I think

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Speaker 1: we should just start off and Tasia, if you're cool

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Speaker 1: with this, just like maybe give like our favorite highlights

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Speaker 1: or lowlights of the I was gonna say the season

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Speaker 1: of the episode that we saw, Yeah, absolutely, Okay. First off,

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Speaker 1: I had to say with the first date, can I

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Speaker 1: just say that I love Heather McDonald and that yes

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Speaker 1: you can. I think that date was just so different

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Speaker 1: from anything I've ever seen really on The Bachelorette, and

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Speaker 1: I think the guys were so incredibly funny and made

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Speaker 1: light of a situation that can kind of be awkward

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Speaker 1: at times in front of thirty guys that are all

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Speaker 1: trading date the same girl. Heather McDonald was the perfect

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Speaker 1: host for that. I absolutely love her. Obviously we chatted

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Speaker 1: with her last week, but she just brought such a

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Speaker 1: funny perspective to the date without making it like it

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Speaker 1: didn't cross a line like I'm sure some people were

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Speaker 1: it was great. It was handled so well. Most of

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Speaker 1: the guys, besides Mike, who obviously we saw it, was

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Speaker 1: very uncomfortable with the date. For certain reasons, like most

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Speaker 1: of the guys just owned it and made it very lighthearted.

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Speaker 1: Who I mean because you were obviously they're sitting next

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Speaker 1: to Katie, who was your favorite stand o guy from

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Speaker 1: that group date. Oh my gosh. Let me think she

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Speaker 1: laughed so hard with Trey's little like puppet show, which

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Speaker 1: was so awkward in verson because it went on for

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Speaker 1: think she really enjoyed Connors the Cat song. She loved

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Speaker 1: that song. I loved that song. I was like, girl,

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Speaker 1: if you don't like that song, there's something wrong. But

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Speaker 1: he was just I was not expecting that from him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's good, he can actually sing, he's not

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Speaker 1: just right lyrics. Hello, Yes, he's clever. It was it

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Speaker 1: And I was right, And it wasn't like to showoff.

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Speaker 1: So if he doesn't come out to like mentell all,

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Speaker 1: I just say I don't think I trust Thomas. It's

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Speaker 1: But I thought the same thing, like you're too good

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Speaker 1: I said he's hot, but I don't trust a man

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Speaker 1: But then we go into one of the people's favorites

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Speaker 1: a red pickup truck camping tent date with Katie, which

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Speaker 1: I found one of us one of the sweetest dates

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Speaker 1: There was obviously tension brewing between the men, which ultimately

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Speaker 1: one thing, like the one thing that kind of like

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Speaker 1: and so it's all all somebody's own personal choice. It's

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Speaker 1: so Mike, thank you for sharing. I'm so glad that,

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Speaker 1: excited for Katie. Yeah, I'm so excited to see what

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Speaker 1: Rose ceremony, because we ended with that cliffhanger, which I hate,

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Speaker 1: but I get it. You got to keep us hooked people. So, um,

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Speaker 1: I think without further ado, we just should bring Katie

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Speaker 1: on because I have so many questions for her. I

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Speaker 1: today to help her feel a little bit more comfortable,

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Speaker 1: So everybody please welcome the amazing bacherette herself, Katie, Katie,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I was trying to

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Speaker 1: just think about the last time we had you on,

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Speaker 1: which was in the middle of Matt's season, I think,

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Speaker 1: like months and months ago, So welcome back. Your life

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Speaker 1: has completely changed since then, between finishing matt season, watching

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Speaker 1: his season back, being announced his bachelortte, filming your own season,

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Speaker 1: and now your season is airing, so much has gone down.

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Speaker 1: So how have you been feeling throughout all of these

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Speaker 1: crazy months. I mean, I'll be honest, like my life

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Speaker 1: actually feels kind of the same right now, because everything's

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Speaker 1: like in limbo a little bit, you know, at times,

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Speaker 1: it also feels like a dream. And so when I

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Speaker 1: watch it back, I'm like, oh no, this is real life.

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Speaker 1: This is really happening, Like that stuff actually went down right.

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Speaker 1: And it's always such an odd experience because obviously you

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Speaker 1: lived it, like there's so much that you went through

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Speaker 1: with these guys and like in your own personal journey,

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Speaker 1: but now watching it back, there's so much that you

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Speaker 1: realize you don't see, like you you know, like you're

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Speaker 1: not with the guys twenty four seven. You're not in

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Speaker 1: their interviews, So how has that been like watching what

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Speaker 1: they say about you back, watching what goes down at

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Speaker 1: the resort when you're not around, Like, what is that

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Speaker 1: like for you? It's interesting because without giving any spoilers,

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Speaker 1: some of the things that these guys are saying are

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Speaker 1: struggling with are like foreshadowing future conflict, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that was something they were battling early on, or there

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Speaker 1: were red flags early on that I never saw, And

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Speaker 1: so it's just it is very interesting to finally see

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Speaker 1: like behind the scenes, isn't it. It's it's like I

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Speaker 1: wish y'all would have told me about that now that

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Speaker 1: you're watching about it, right, I mean, I know I

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Speaker 1: definitely felt like that watching my season back, and I

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Speaker 1: can only imagine for you because like we all can

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Speaker 1: relate to some capacity, we all could relate a lot, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but these guys, I feel like I always thought, like,

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Speaker 1: why didn't you tell me that? Like it would have

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Speaker 1: helped us, you know, so I totally understand. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: why I think it's good that Katie you have Caitlin

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Speaker 1: thank goodness you had them, you know, as like this

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Speaker 1: for advice in situations because you know, they went through

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Speaker 1: the entire thing, and maybe they were picking up or

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Speaker 1: hearing certain things when you weren't around that they could

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Speaker 1: have shared with you. Obviously, when they came on, it

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Speaker 1: was a complete surprise to you. So reliving that back.

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Speaker 1: What did that feel like for you when you first

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Speaker 1: saw them, I mean, well, I was gonna say, come

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Speaker 1: out of the limit, but they just it's like a

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Speaker 1: behind you. I was so shoved, even like I'm reliving

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Speaker 1: the emotion right now of like this like overwhelming joy

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Speaker 1: was nothing I could have ever expected. And I honestly

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Speaker 1: almost cried, or maybe I even did, I don't remember,

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Speaker 1: but I was relieved. I was so happy to have

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Speaker 1: them both there. You took on a big undertaking going

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Speaker 1: in thinking like you might not have a host, you

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Speaker 1: know your team of producers there. So I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: that you guys all had each other to know. I know,

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Speaker 1: I've talked to both Tatian and Caitlin, who they've had

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Speaker 1: good that you guys all had each other one thing

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Speaker 1: that we can all relate to. As Tastia said, you

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Speaker 1: know more than anything else, is like this experience really

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Speaker 1: bonds people in a weird way, and nothing can truly

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Speaker 1: prepare you for the role that is being the lead

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Speaker 1: in this franchise. So we're curious to know since we

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Speaker 1: have been wondering this too. What we're like, say three

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Speaker 1: qualities or conversations, etc. That you had going into your season,

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Speaker 1: knowing you wanted to talk about with the men, whether

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Speaker 1: it made it on air or not, that like we're

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Speaker 1: very important to you. You know. It's tough because becoming

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Speaker 1: I almost didn't really have time to plan that way.

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Speaker 1: You know, Like as I'm there, I'm getting advice from

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Speaker 1: Tatia and Caitlin of like exactly that question, like what

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Speaker 1: I haven't really thought this far yet I was taking

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Speaker 1: it day by day, but obviously kind of knowing I

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Speaker 1: and like, honestly being that I was there with Katie,

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Speaker 1: that's like it's going to be very obvious to me,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's so hard to really tell somebody when

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Speaker 1: or navigate those waters. But it's just it's such a

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Speaker 1: I know I've told you multiple times. It's like this

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Speaker 1: So I understand the thing of like not knowing exactly

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Speaker 1: know that I like this type of man, or like this, this, this, this, this,

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Speaker 1: you have that option in a way. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: think it's so easy for anyone to kind of go

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Speaker 1: Katie when you were able to sit down with tasition

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Speaker 1: Caitlin and I don't remember which one of you told

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Speaker 1: entire journey, if you will go, I'm like trying not

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Speaker 1: it would be so obvious, as you know, Batchel Nation

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Speaker 1: it's nerve wracking walking into a room full of all

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Speaker 1: But it's a little nerve wracking. So thank god you

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Um, we need to get into I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've obviously seen now two episodes, but there's so much

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Speaker 1: night one, obviously, you know, one of the biggest surprises

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Speaker 1: like having your girlfriends there eating some popcorn. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: so funny because Katie, like I was just realizing this

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Speaker 1: So it was really fun for Caitlin and I to

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Speaker 1: just give everyone some walkie talkies. That would be a

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00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: good idea. So yeah, like we um, okay, So Katie,

427
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: last night, let's get into your first actual week of dates.

428
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: So we saw you go on through different dates. Out

429
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 1: of all of those, which date activity wise, was your

430
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: overall favorite? Honestly, I really loved The Greatest Lover of

431
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: All Time date because you guys got to see just

432
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: a small portion of it, but it felt like a

433
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: comedy show. Like it was like, I don't know, like

434
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 1: two hours maybe of just pure entertainment and laughter. And

435
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: this is like the first time we're all kind of

436
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: getting to know each other as a group. Was just

437
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: so much fun. It was a good one. I will say.

438
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: Heather McDonald is incredible. She did such a good job

439
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: hosting that, and it was just such like a good

440
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: catered date towards you. I feel like, because you know,

441
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: all season so far, we've been talking about how sex

442
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: positive and just open you are. And I think that's

443
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: something probably very important that you wanted to see and hear.

444
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: So we saw you give your group date rose to

445
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: Mike at that date, who admitted that he was saving

446
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: himself for marriage. How did that make you feel? Sitting

447
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: on the bed staring at him as he is reading

448
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: you this letter. I just want to clarify. I think

449
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: he actually got just like the award for that, but

450
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: the rose was someone else at night, right. Oh yeah,

451
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: so Mike got the award. Yes, Yeah, So Mike got

452
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: the award just because, like he surprised me. I knew

453
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: had a time. I had his gut feeling based on

454
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: his very minimal answers in the beginning. I was like, oh, shoot,

455
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: he must be emerging, because like he looked very uncomfortable,

456
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: and I was very worried, right and I didn't have

457
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: the opportunity to check on him, you know, before he performed,

458
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: so I didn't know what to expect. And then when

459
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: he went up there and read that letter, I was

460
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 1: just so moved by it and how just you know,

461
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: comfortable he was still pursuing me given his beliefs, and

462
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: how just open and honest he was like it literally

463
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: I brought a tear to my eye, and so he

464
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: was so deserving of the award that day. I just

465
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: think it was like so nice to watch like him

466
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: being able to be vulnerable and be true to himself

467
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: and not feel like he has to be something else

468
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: and know like who you are, and honestly he gave

469
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: himself a chance. And the fact that you like actually

470
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: fell to connect with him as he was being open

471
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: and vulnerable. I thought that was like so beautiful to

472
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: see because like sometimes I mean, if you think about it, oh,

473
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, a virgin going to date like someone that's

474
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: very open and like sex positive, it doesn't sound like

475
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: it's like a recipe for success. However, there's so much

476
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: more to him, and he's not saying I'm not going

477
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: to have you know, sex to you ever, it's just

478
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: like I'm waiting for a certain time. So who knows

479
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: he could have been your person. Who knows. I'd like

480
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: to say there are other ways to physically connect that

481
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: Arno exactly exactly, and I like how it was portrayed.

482
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: I feel like in the past, there's been such a

483
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: stigma around virgins on the show, you know, like we

484
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: saw with Colton's season where it you know, I think overall,

485
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 1: like people own it, but they still, like, you know,

486
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: there's always people out there that will criticize and comment

487
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: and say mean things whatever they want to say, And

488
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: I think that it was shown in a really great

489
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: way where I mean, at first, I was like, oh

490
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: my gosh, God bless him. He looks so uncomfortable and

491
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: I just want to hug him through the screen. But

492
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 1: I think as you sent Tasi, like he just kind

493
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: of owned who he was and he wasn't ashamed, and like, yeah,

494
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure overall the date made him feel weird, but

495
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he was afraid to share that with you, Katie.

496
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm actually glad that he was able to

497
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: do it so early on that I didn't come as

498
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: a major shock to you later on. I think that

499
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: would have just been worse for everyone involved. Absolutely, yeah,

500
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: because you know, like and again like I don't read spoilers,

501
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: I truly have no idea how far he goes. But

502
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: if he's somebody that you would have really fallen for,

503
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: and he would have told you this like a month

504
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: or so in, it probably could have changed a lot

505
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: of things in a different way. So, yeah, it really

506
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: reminded me of my entrance on Matt season, and I

507
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: knew I was gonna be myself and it could either

508
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: send me home or keep me, you know, going and

509
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: pursuing this. And Mike Pie said the same thing. He's like,

510
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: I could either own it and risk possibly going home

511
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: because she is sex positive, or you know, lying about

512
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: who I really am. And so I was just really

513
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: propitive for just you know, owning it, embracing it. And yeah,

514
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: you guys will see you Mike and I move forward together, right,

515
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: can't wait? Can't wait? Well, speaking of moving forward, that's

516
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: not the only date you had this week, we obviously

517
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: saw you go in your first one on one, which

518
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: I really actually want to ask you about because we

519
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: obviously saw that date go to Greg. He also was

520
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 1: the lucky recipient of your first impression rows. And I

521
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: don't think and I'm sure people will correct me if

522
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, we've ever seen somebody received the first rows

523
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: and then also get the first one on one day.

524
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, at least when I was bad Shurettes,

525
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: I was kind of told to steer away. They're like,

526
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: don't put all your eggs in one basket and don't

527
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: give it all away, like you don't want the men

528
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: to know you're like super super into somebody. So was

529
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: that a decision that you were just like, fuck it,

530
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: I like him, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do,

531
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: and I want to spend more time with him. Or

532
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: how did that all transpire? I guess yeah. I knew

533
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: the date was going to be sent around my dad,

534
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: so it was a very important date. And Greg was

535
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: someone that I had a very early connection with, just

536
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: like right away, and so without really getting to know

537
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys, I was like, Greg's the

538
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: best one at this time to go on this date

539
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: with me, you know in plus right, you know, so

540
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: shy and insecure, and I was like, I'm gonna give

541
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: him that validation and really get him to bring down

542
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: his walls and get to know him better, you know,

543
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: because I didn't want that to be a problem going

544
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: forward if he continued to be like shy and closed off.

545
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: So he was the perfect one to go on the

546
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: date with, although not knowing that he had also lost

547
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: his dad. So it really was this like beautiful thing

548
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: that I could never have predicted, which I found really

549
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: interesting watching because he actually waited to the dinner date

550
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: to tell you that, you know that he had also

551
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: lost his dad, as opposed to talking about it earlier

552
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: in the day when you opened up to him. And so,

553
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: did you feel like at that time like you wish

554
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: you would have known earlier or did you feel like

555
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: it was like the perfect time. I do actually wish

556
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: he told me during the day, because as I'm telling

557
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: him my story, I could tell there was something he

558
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: wanted he was holding back or right, maybe yeah, holding back,

559
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, but also as someone who lost a parent,

560
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: if he's not ready to talk about or doesn't want

561
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: to get emotional in front of me, then that's fine.

562
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: But there was a kind of a little bit of

563
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: a roadblock at times when I would recognize there's something

564
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: he's thinking about, but he wouldn't open up about it

565
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: until that evening. And how did you feel once he

566
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: did like you, did you feel a sense of relief

567
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: or just you related to him a little bit more. Oh,

568
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: it was a huge moment for Greg and I because

569
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, here he is getting emotional in front of me,

570
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: which I know sometimes for men that's hard, and I

571
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: was just letting him know, like it's okay to cry

572
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: and embrace your emotions and for us to talk about,

573
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, him and his dad, and it was something

574
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: I think he's been needing to do in general, because

575
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: it has only been two years and it is a

576
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: tough thing to still have to think about, you know,

577
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: as he's moving forward warning a family and children in marriage. Yeah,

578
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: I gotta say for somebody who I mean, And we've

579
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: talked about this before on I think when we had

580
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: you on Happy Over the first time around, Um, you

581
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: know I can relate to losing a parent. I lost

582
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: my dad in two thousand and nine, and I think,

583
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: like it's never easy to talk about. It's especially in

584
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: certain situations when you know basically the world and all

585
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: these strangers that you don't know are going to hear

586
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: your story. It's a really, really scary thing. And so

587
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: I commend you for being able to put yourself in

588
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: the space with not only Greg but on the show,

589
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: to be able to open up and share your story,

590
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: because it's only going to bring out so many people

591
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: who have gone through something similar with you or similar

592
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: to you, and who can relate to losing a parent

593
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: or a loved one. I think it was a really

594
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: really special moment that like, just for me as a viewer,

595
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: I feel so grateful to have been able to watch

596
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: like you sit there and share that with him. And

597
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: I think too for Greg, Like you know, I don't

598
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: know him, I can only imagine for him this being

599
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: the first week ever coming on the show, like he had,

600
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: he didn't have a season under his belt to kind

601
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: of know what to expect. I think you felt like

602
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: a safe haven that he could open up to, which

603
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: I think is really special and just shows your character

604
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: and how important and just special and open you probably

605
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: made him feel. I think it was just a really

606
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: special moment. It was. It was a date that, um,

607
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't think we see all that often on the

608
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: show where you can actually bond over something so deep

609
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: and real and raw and special. Um. And so for

610
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,239
Speaker 1: anyone out there who has gone through something similar, UM,

611
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, reach out. I don't want to speak for you, Katie,

612
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: but you can always reach out to me or I'm

613
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: sure Katie at some point. But thank you for sharing that,

614
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: and I hope we can see more in depth conversations

615
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: like that, like, because I feel like it really bonded

616
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: you and Greg in a way where I have in

617
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: my notes after after he opened up at the dinner

618
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: date dinner portion, I was like, done, this is a

619
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: done deal, right, like bonds you in such a crazy

620
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: way that I was like, this man is going far,

621
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: Like he if he's not the one at the end

622
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: of this, he's going far because like the way that that,

623
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, like sadness and like hard heavy shit can

624
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: connect people, you know. I don't know, I don't know

625
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: if you'll be able to do that with many of

626
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: the other men. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

627
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: But thank you Katie for sharing more of your story.

628
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I think it was really important for all of us

629
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: viewers to see. Thank you. Yeah, I mean it's it

630
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: was definitely a moment where we could kind of show

631
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: each other that we're there for each other at our

632
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: lowest points. And yeah, I definitely brought it us for sure.

633
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: Were you you know, you said you knew kind of

634
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: going into that day what the date was going to

635
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: be like, was any part of you a little apprehensive

636
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: knowing that it was probably going to be a bit

637
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: more tougher and it wasn't the you know, let's go

638
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: in a hot air balloon type date, right, Yeah, you know,

639
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure how I was going to handle it.

640
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: You know, in some ways it's like this really special

641
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: moment and fun, but Becca, I'm sure you can relate.

642
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes it just hits you when you least expect it,

643
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: you know. So I really didn't know what to expect

644
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: going into the date. You know. Of course I wanted

645
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: to be light and fun and it's a very special

646
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: date to me, but I didn't expect to kind of

647
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: like open up as emotional as Greg and I ended

648
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: up being together. And it was just gonna say, like,

649
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: did you ever think that you could possibly relate to

650
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: somebody on this level on this journey? I mean, I

651
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: guess you could never know, but can you believe that

652
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: actually happened? That was like your first impression Rose, It

653
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: was so quick, you know, Like it's also my first

654
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: one on one day ever as a bacherette, And so

655
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: for us to really utilize that time together, it's not

656
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: a lot of time, and on the way that we did,

657
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: we used every minute of that that one on one

658
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: day and it really made a difference. M Well, all

659
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: I gotta say is the men have some very stiff

660
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: competition after that date and that Greg. I have high hopes,

661
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: big expectations for Greg. Who knows, I'm always wrong in

662
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: every time I think how the season's gonna play out,

663
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: it never goes my way, So I don't know. But

664
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: moving on, So we have one more date obviously this week,

665
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: which was a lot more lighthearted rugged the men did

666
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: this buckle brawl where they you know, rip up their

667
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: shirts and they're in the mud. Um, you know, I

668
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: think the main takeaway from that date was all of

669
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: the drama between Aaron and Cody, which we obviously saw

670
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: you address and sent Cody home by the end of

671
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: that night. When you sat down with Aaron, I mean,

672
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: I know that you right away highlighted the fact that Okay,

673
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: there was some tension there, we all felt it. But

674
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: did you expect him to share what he did with

675
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: you what Cody did with Yeah, did you expect Aaron

676
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: to share what he did with you? Like in regards

677
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: to Cody and like men not being here for the

678
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: right reasons and being you know, kind of sketchy. I mean,

679
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: I I don't know if I ever had expectations, because

680
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect ever with any of them. Um,

681
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: when he did open up though, I was. I was thankful,

682
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, because he is looking out for me in

683
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: our relationship and if he has a problem, I want

684
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: to know about it, you know. And I just love

685
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: that he was very direct, which you'll see, you know

686
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: with Carl, who was not very direct. And I don't

687
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: have time to play games, you know, so I really

688
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: did appreciate Aaron just being straightforward and not wasting any

689
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: of my time and just letting me know what's up. Yeah,

690
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I will say. I mean, you never know

691
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: what to expect in the you know, week by week,

692
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: day by day, so much changes so quickly. Um. I

693
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: remember at times when I was in your position, being like,

694
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: it's too soon for this. It's too soon for the

695
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: drama and for men fighting with other men, but you

696
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: know that's the show. Well it really cut off cut

697
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people off guard all night when when

698
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: they were like when Aaron pulled Cody asign was like

699
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: I never liked you and I don't like you. It

700
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: was just everyone's like, what's happening here? I know there's

701
00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: drama obviously, but yeah, at least we had more context

702
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: to what was actually going on and what was the

703
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: premier night, Everyone's like, what the heck is this guy

704
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: just called it a really cost trauma. Okay, Well, we

705
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: have so much that's going to happen in these next

706
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and obviously we're already now into week

707
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: three coming up. So I want you, I know you

708
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: can't give much away, but I want you to give

709
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: us like a little bit of a teaser of what

710
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: to expect what's coming up. We did see in the

711
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: previous for next week that Nick Bile is going to

712
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: be hosting a date, So can you give us any

713
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: more about what's coming? Yeah? You know, the upcoming episode

714
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: is going to be a pretty important conversation and I

715
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: don't think it's really been highlighted before in this way.

716
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: And I say that because it's a conversation that I

717
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: want Vatch Nation to join in on. It's a very

718
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: important one for men and women to go through and understand.

719
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: So I'm just really really excited to have that opportunity

720
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: to share because I got to do that with the

721
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: men and it really made a difference. I can't wait now.

722
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: I know you can't give away anything, really, but is

723
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: it a conversation that you had with Nick or that

724
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: Nick then also had with the men, like we're talking

725
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: im again. I never expect anything, and so I'm going

726
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: through this day. I didn't know this conversation was going

727
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: to happen. It's just in my heart. I was like,

728
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: this is the time to share it, and it surprised everybody,

729
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: including myself, but it really was transformative for me on

730
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: my journey and really barning me with those men who

731
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: were there. Okay, well, I can't wait to tune in Kate.

732
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: I know, I'm just like sitting back here, like being quiet.

733
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying because I don't want

734
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: to allude to anything, but it's gonna yeah, it's it's impactful.

735
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Katie, you are a pro. I mean,

736
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: I know that you've done your media rounds since the

737
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: premiere and obviously when you were announced as bouche rep,

738
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: but you like give us just enough to want more

739
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: without giving too much away. And now I know what

740
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: it feels like because when I was on your side,

741
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: I was like, oh haha, this is kind of fun,

742
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: like I can tease things but without like telling anything.

743
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, oh, oh god, okay, come on, Okay,

744
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't wait to see everything happen. I

745
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: mean overall in your head and your heart, how are

746
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: you doing? Like you know, obviously you lived it and

747
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: it's a different experience of watching it back, but like, overall,

748
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: where are you at right now? Are you happy? Are

749
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: you in a good place? Yeah? I will say I'm happy,

750
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: But I will also say watching these back is triggering

751
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: at times. You know, you're reliving what was once a

752
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: special moment and now is I just didn't memory. So

753
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: it's a little hard to kind of rego through this

754
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: when you had just finally like healed from it and

755
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: now you have to go all over it again. Is

756
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: there any the part that a lot of people don't

757
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: understand truly and it is difficult. Yeah? Is there anything

758
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: that you have had to I mean maybe you haven't already,

759
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: but you will. They'll have to or want to warn

760
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: your family and friends about. Like I remember when I

761
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: came back. I came, I came back home, and I

762
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: was like, okay, mom, just so you're aware, this happens

763
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: in like week seven or something that happens at the end,

764
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: just so it's not a shock or to you. But

765
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: have you had sorts of conversations. Yet without giving too

766
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: much away, everyone that is you with hometowns, with my

767
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: mom and my family, there's nothing that can shock us. No,

768
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: there's no warnings for them, nothing can shock them. Oh,

769
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: this is something that just popped into my mind because

770
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: obviously you didn't go to hometowns on Mad Season. And

771
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't mean that as a job at all. I'm

772
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: just saying, like, I didn't even think about it. But

773
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: so this is your first time with your family that

774
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: they'll be filming with you and part of this, you know,

775
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: the show, if you will. What was that like for them?

776
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they're definitely out of their comfort zone, you know,

777
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't realize how vulnerable you

778
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: have to be when you are going through this experience

779
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: and talk about your emotions. And that's not something that

780
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: my aunt is used to, you know, my mom, she's

781
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: just an emotional mess yea. And so I think sometimes

782
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: they also lead with humor to kind of make up

783
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: for their nervousness. And that's the part I'm actually dreading

784
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: watching back, is like, what did they say to these men?

785
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna be good, It's well. Heather McDonald was our

786
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: guest on happy hour last week, and she would you

787
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: had made a comment in the week of the premiere

788
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: and you were like, um, you know if these men,

789
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: I don't, And I don't remember what the context was around.

790
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: I think it was around like being open about like sexuality,

791
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: and and you were like, list, they can't keep up

792
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: with me, they can't keep up with my family, and

793
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: like what's going on with the family. But I took

794
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: it as just like, you guys are all very open

795
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: and it's not a ta boo or like frowned upon

796
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: to talk about like your sexuality and like owning that.

797
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Is that kind of what you meant. Yes,

798
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad you picked up on it, and I realized

799
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: later how weird it did sound to people who didn't understand.

800
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not uncommon for us to get like

801
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: a family gathering and talking about sexual experiences or like

802
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: making jokes about sex. You know, like we're just very

803
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: open and comfortable with each other. And so if someone

804
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: was to be uncomfortable with that, they would just dread

805
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: family gathering. Then, m I want to meet your family.

806
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: They sound like a fun bunch. They're a fun bunch.

807
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard some stories and it's it's it's well, um, okay,

808
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: we're going to get into a game, and I have

809
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: a couple more questions. But one thing that I wanted

810
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: to ask um that Tisha, I don't remember what you

811
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: said earlier, but was there any point throughout, like, you know,

812
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: going back to rewatching the season now and there's so

813
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: much that you've missed and that you're like learning about

814
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: the guys and hearing what they actually have to say

815
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: when you're not around. For Taysia and Kaitlin, was there

816
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: any point where they had to come to you and

817
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: warn you about certain things and be like, hey, you know,

818
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: maybe ask this guy this sort of question, or bring

819
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: this up to somebody, or this is kind of what's

820
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: going down, be aware of it, that type of thing. No,

821
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: what I loved is I was still able to go

822
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: through this experience in my own way and the most

823
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: natural way you can. You know, my girlfriends in the

824
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: real world wouldn't know about what's going on with my boyfriends,

825
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: So Tashia and Caitlin kind of stepped away in terms

826
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: of that. But when I reached out for advice or

827
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: they saw me struggling, then that's when you get to

828
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: see us all kind of have our girl moments and

829
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: really support each other. So not one did they ever

830
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: kind of give me any like insider scoop to anything.

831
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: I love that though. I love let you ask that

832
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: backup because it's so true, like we were there to

833
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: just help mentor her and like navigate her. We're not

834
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: trying to like persuade her to go any other way.

835
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: We're not producers, we're not, so not that they do that,

836
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: but it's just like we're not running the show or

837
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: doing anything behind the scenes like that. We were strictly

838
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: there just to help her. So if she was going

839
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: through something, it was like having a difficult decision or

840
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: a difficult time, like navigating through emotions. Like she just

841
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: called on us and then we helped her. You went

842
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: with your normal girlfriends. Yeah, but it wasn't like, Hey,

843
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: by the way, I stalked this guy's Instagram and there's

844
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: four girls post. You're not. I mean, if I was Katie,

845
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: I would be I would have on my hotel phone

846
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: you guys on speed dial and be like Hi, Hi,

847
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: come over and help me pick up my outphone, or

848
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: like I've just seen some girl time literally freaking out.

849
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: I would be calling you girls every single day. Yeah,

850
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: We're like, why is Katie not calling us today? It's

851
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: like she's dating and busy and stuff like she was occupied. Um, okay,

852
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask both of you this question. What is

853
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: the strangest thing that you learned about each other throughout

854
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: this season? About about you two? I don't know if

855
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: she learned too much about me. This was about her,

856
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't about me, but I learned on oh god

857
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: what oh no. Jacia has this this alter ego when

858
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: she wants to really loosen up. She's a good she's

859
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: a good time. What's her name? What's her name? We're

860
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: actually trying to figure that out. I don't know. We

861
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: were trying to figure out this time, um, what that

862
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: little alter ego is. But she definitely does come out.

863
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: You are actually very right with that. I also meet

864
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: this per CD has a really fun drink. She likes

865
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: to drink to loosen up as well. She made it

866
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: for me. It has ipa beer and what else is it?

867
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: One gin? No? There it is great fruit juice. That's horrible.

868
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: I said this, I actually said this same thing, but

869
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: it's actually really good. It's something it's really refreshing in

870
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: the summer. I feel like it would be a really

871
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: good drink this summer, like if you're on the boat,

872
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: it like hits you, right, I don't know how to

873
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: explain it. Oh my gosh, we can. Okay, I'm gonna

874
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: I'll give it a go, but only if you make

875
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: it for me, Katie. Yeah, I agree, when we're all together. Okay,

876
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: if way doesn't have a name, Okay, here's the thing

877
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: I thought I found it the first time. I thought

878
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: it was called like the the Elvis Presley, like right,

879
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: and it's not really like a known thing, um Elvis Presley.

880
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: I guess no, No, we're gonna rename it. We're gonna, yeah,

881
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna rename it. Um Katie's Lucky Lucky number eighteen

882
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: or something. Are just the New Mexico or like you

883
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I don't know, squad Yeah,

884
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: yeah like that. Okay, it's pretty good, all right. I'm

885
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: gonna have to give it a world one of these days, Katie,

886
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: when I make a hang out with me. Um. Okay,

887
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: so we want to get into this little fun game

888
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: that we have. But before that, you know the deal.

889
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: We asked you this the first time around and without

890
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: giving anything no spoilers away from your season so far,

891
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: what has been your rose of the season and what

892
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: has been your thorn the rose? Oh, I know this

893
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: is gonna sound cheesy, but like the men, like I

894
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: can't say enough, and you guys are just gonna see it.

895
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: They're so good. There's such a good group overall. Yes,

896
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: there's some rotten apples, the overall America is gonna fall

897
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: in love with all of them. I mean there's always

898
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: some rotten apples, that's to be expected. But and then

899
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: you're thorn. Oh, up to this point, there's plenty. Um.

900
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean the drama, like the petty drama like that

901
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: seems so pointless and like annoying. You know, that's why

902
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: Cody went home right away. I was like, I'm not

903
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: even invested in you to care to figure out if

904
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: this is true or not? Like by right, No, yeah,

905
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: just the drama. Yeah, h well, I can't wait to

906
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: see it all play out. Um. Okay, last question here.

907
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: If you could give us a one sentence teaser of

908
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: what's to come this season, what would it be? Yeah?

909
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's hard because there's so many different ways

910
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: I can go. There's so much believing I just had

911
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: to press say. They all kept asking you, like, I

912
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: don't know what actually to say because so much goes on.

913
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: Did you not see the teaser? Like it's wild? Okay,

914
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: between the two of you, we can come up with something. Okay, No,

915
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: this is all Katie. I mean I would say it's

916
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: I've been saying it's a wild ride. You know. I

917
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: really described it as like a roller coaster of just

918
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: like slowly going up, up, up, and then it just drops.

919
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: Oh shit, what you just say? That? Does this sound happy?

920
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: That's like that's like fun, that's like scary, that's like thrilling.

921
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: It's everything, Okay, what end? Like me? You know, I

922
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: definitely say that it's I tell people to buckle up

923
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: because it's gonna get really freaking good. I say that

924
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: there's so much that is going to be unexpected. But

925
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: also there's a lot of first and I know you've

926
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: said this as well, but there's a lot of first

927
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: this season that I don't think people are gonna or

928
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: have seen before. And so that's what I leave it at.

929
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: Maybe let's not do this thing, but like maybe let's

930
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: see this this and then maybe like around and then

931
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: like you know, maybe space Mountain. How about space Mountain.

932
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: You're like, yeahys are covered. You don't know what you're doing? Okay,

933
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't wait it in like a bad way. She's

934
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: like that first feeling of like h and then you're

935
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: like yay, you know, yeah, okay, okay. I like the

936
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: roller coaster analogy better than I'm thinking of like the

937
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: Tower of Terror where it just like drops me, like

938
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: plunge to the bottom and everyone's just like what well,

939
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean she went straight up like hi, and then yeah,

940
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: I know. I was watching her language as you as

941
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: you're reenacting this, and I'm like, um are I'm doing

942
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: an add for better help on the podcast. I mean,

943
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: are we talking about um? Okay, okay, um. So we

944
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: always love to play. Our games are a little you know,

945
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: bachelork games, if you will, and you are officially our

946
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: no spot short. So, Tasia, do you want to kind

947
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: of explain how this is going to work? Yes, okay,

948
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: So this is a game of this or that. So

949
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: this is a situation that only the bachelott knows how

950
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: to handle. So we're going to give you a situation

951
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: of this or that and you have to pick one

952
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 1: of the other but it's more of like a rapid

953
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: fire kind of thing, so you can't really give it

954
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: too much thought. So I'll start off yes, okay, Okay.

955
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: Would you rather send someone helme at a brow ceremony

956
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: or on a one on one day? A one on

957
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: one day? Oh, Katie, I like it all right? Okay,

958
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: kiss everyone on the first night, have just a few

959
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: meaningful kisses. Kiss everyone, love it, love it my girl.

960
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: Okayrett um, break up with someone or breathe, let me

961
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: start break up with someone or be broken up with

962
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: break up with someone that's tough one. Honestly, they both

963
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: really suck. Okay. Would you rather watch fireworks or have

964
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: a surprise concert? Surprise concert? Okay? Would you rather have

965
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: a cat Limo arrival or a bullpit Limo arrival? Oh?

966
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: I know that one kind of unfair man, I don't know,

967
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: I know, oh cat Limo arrival. Okay, don't don't do

968
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: her corn or dirty like that by saying the balls.

969
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I will say the balls looked pretty fun though. Okay, Wait, Taia,

970
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: did you and Caitlin playing them later? No? Which is

971
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: so we were busy that night. Okay, you have a

972
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: lot more on your mind. I get it, I get it. Yes, okay, Katie.

973
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: Would you rather take your men on a physical date

974
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: or a date where they have to perform? A date

975
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: where they have to perform? Yeah? Okay. Would you rather

976
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: have myself and Caitlin on a group date or at

977
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: a row ceremony? Group date? For sure, always so much fun.

978
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: Would you rather wear an extravagant dress or something more simple?

979
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: Something more simple? That's my girl, girl. Okay. Would you

980
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: rather share something personal with a guy or have them

981
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: share something personal with you? I'd rather have them or

982
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: share something personal with me. Good answer too. Okay, this

983
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: is not part of the game. I just have a

984
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: question to go off of that. Did you ever feel

985
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: like when you were about Shrett, were the guys good

986
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: at first about asking you a lot of questions back

987
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: because I know you are there, or get to know

988
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: them very quickly because there's so many of them. But

989
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: did you ever feel like they just assumed they already

990
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: knew so much about you and didn't even care or

991
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: like need to ask you. Yeah, there are definitely some

992
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: that were so focused on introducing who they were, you know,

993
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: trying to like win my heart because they are A

994
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: B and C. But then there's definitely a lot of

995
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: them who took the time to kind of ask me

996
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: similar questions and actually engage in conversations, and those are

997
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: the men who are going to go further because we

998
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: are bonding back and forth and not just this one

999
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: sided conversation. Yes, God, I love it, Katie. Okay, last

1000
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: question for the game. Would you rather give a guy

1001
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: a group date Rose or the first Rose at a ceremony?

1002
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: Group date? Rose? Alrighty, Katie, you were great. You like

1003
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: so far, it has been such a pleasure to watch you.

1004
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: You've just like I feel like you've just been yourself

1005
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: and you've owned it and you articulate what you're looking

1006
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: for so well, like so as if you were I

1007
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: totally understand you. I don't have any questions around you

1008
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: of like why is she doing this or saying this?

1009
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense and so I mean, I know

1010
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: we've only seen two episodes, but I keep saying this

1011
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: like I can't wait to see week by week what

1012
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: happens because I am so excited to watch your journey

1013
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: and we truly like want nothing but the best for you. Yes, you,

1014
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and it has been so fun having

1015
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: you on. I really wish we could keep chatting, and

1016
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: I wish we could keep chatting like outside of the podcast,

1017
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: because I see like I could get more dirt from

1018
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: the two of you together. But I understand you are

1019
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: a very busy, wanted woman these days. But where are

1020
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: you all right now? Are you back home? Are you

1021
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: able to like kind of chill and relax for a

1022
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I'm home and kind of taking it

1023
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: literally day by day, like I don't even know what

1024
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: next week holds for me. That's how my life feels

1025
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: right now. It's gonna be like that for a while.

1026
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: I think, just the worry. Just just hang on in

1027
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: there if you need us, you obviously know we're here

1028
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: for you. Oh before we let you go, though, I

1029
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: know like your world is constantly changing and evolving, and

1030
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: like you said, you'd never know what to expect. So

1031
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: is there anything that you want to ask either of

1032
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: us right now in like this next chapter of what

1033
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: to Expect? Or any advice that we can maybe hopefully

1034
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: give you. Yeah, you know, I think I will have questions,

1035
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: but I told myself to wait till the halfway mark.

1036
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: Like right now, I'm just so pid in once the

1037
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: like chaotic part of that kind of settled. That's what

1038
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, game plan, help me out, ladies.

1039
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: Where do I go? What do I do? How does

1040
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: this work? What's happening? Okay, Well, we'll be here whenever

1041
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: you are ready. And you I'm sure our listeners will

1042
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: ask if you're part of the group chat. Yes, you

1043
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: are part of the Bachelor for Chat. We added you

1044
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: before your season started and all of the girls are

1045
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: so thrilled to have you, you know, joined this little

1046
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: girl gag that we have going on. So yeah, we're

1047
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: always here for everything. But thank you for taking time

1048
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: out of your crazy schedule today to be with us. Yes,

1049
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: thank you, ladies, I appreciate it lately. I'm sure we'll

1050
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: talk soon, but hang in there and we will talk later. Yeah,

1051
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: thank you. Okay, look gorgeous. By the way, Katie is

1052
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: a very strong and independent woman. And I think that's

1053
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,479
Speaker 1: the one thing that even like I learned from her

1054
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: is just like she's very confident in what she wants,

1055
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: and I think it's very admirable, you know. But also

1056
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that I did tell her. I'm like,

1057
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: I know, you like to control the situation. You have

1058
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: a very good, like rain on your life right now.

1059
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Speaker 1: But this is like the one time in your life

1060
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: where you have to let go and I'm telling you

1061
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: it's okay to let go, Like we're not gonna let

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00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: you fall. So that was something that you know, we

1063
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: talked about week after week just because it's a scary time.

1064
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: But it's just like such it's a it's a scary

1065
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: and exciting and like it's it's nerve wracking, and it's

1066
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: you're vulnerable. Um, you're happy, but you're sad, and like

1067
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: it's it's there's so many emotions. So yeah, yeah, it

1068
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: gets intense, which is probably why she was like it

1069
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: was a rollercoaster of emotions. I think for Katie, she

1070
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: came in and it seems like she doesn't need a

1071
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: man to complete her, Like you said, she seems so independent.

1072
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: You know, she has this great life back at home.

1073
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: She just wanted somebody to kind of click and fit

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00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: into the puzzle that she has. And so at times

1075
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: it's hard when you're like, no, I'm good, I'm fine,

1076
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: Like I don't need a man, but I want a

1077
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: man to really just like throw your hands up and

1078
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: be like, you know, Jesus take the wheel right now.

1079
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: It's not an easy thing. So I again, like that's

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00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: why I'm glad that she had you and Caitlin, because

1081
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: who better to give that advice and like be alongside

1082
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: her than to form about charrettes. You know, you did

1083
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: just go through it, and so yeah, it's good. I definitely, like,

1084
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: I hope we can have her back on either later

1085
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: on or at the finale, the season finale, because like,

1086
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: I would just love to hear more. You know, I

1087
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: can tell. It's such a weird space, Like I remember

1088
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: doing the press rounds right winter season starts, and like

1089
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: I said, you can't give too much away and you

1090
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: can only tease so much. And she's very good about

1091
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: leaving us wanting more and not giving it away. So

1092
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: that's why I definitely want to have her back so

1093
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: we can, you know, really like let it all out

1094
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: there and tell everything, give us her real opinions and

1095
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: thoughts and whatnot. I mean, she is right now, but

1096
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: it's it's tough. It's a it's a tough thing to navigate, yeah,

1097
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: for sure. So this has been so much fun, Tasha.

1098
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you were back on this week with

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00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: me once again and to all of our Bachelor Happy

1100
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Speaker 1: Hour listeners, Thank you all for hanging out with us.

1101
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Speaker 1: And next week we're going to be talking to mister

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Speaker 1: Michael A. So if you guys have any questions for

1103
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: him or you're Bachelor in the future, please make sure

1104
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: to hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour

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00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram and it's always Please don't forget to subscribe

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Speaker 1: to our podcasts on the Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wonder App,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you are listening to us right now. Thanks everyone,

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Speaker 1: Hi would week