WEBVTT - 013 Rich on Tech Radio Show - April 1, 2023 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.520 GM is dropping car play. Amazon has a new warning 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:09.320 on certain product listings, and Apple sets a date for 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:13.840 their next big reveal. Oh plus, your tech questions answered. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.279 What's going on? I'm rich Demiro and this is rich 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:18.599 on Tech, the show where I talk about the tech 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.000 stuff I think you should know about. It's also the 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.239 place where I answer your questions about technology. I'm the 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:29.080 tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Welcome 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.640 to the show, and welcome to our new listeners in Boise, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.320 Welcome to rich on Tech. Phone lines are now open 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.480 at triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.960 eight seven four to two four one zero one. Phone 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.920 lines are open. Give me a call if you have 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.720 a question about technology, or if you're too shy you 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:51.680 don't want to give me a call. Email is also 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:56.640 an option. Send it to hello at Richontech dot TV. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.480 I hope you're having a good weekend so far. I am, 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.000 although I got to say I feel kind of silly. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.360 I got a little story time for you because I 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.199 went to Phoenix, Arizona this week for a car test 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:16.399 drive testdrove the new Hyundai Ionic six ev I only 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.199 test drive cars that are sort of alternative fuel because 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.560 that's where a lot of the momentum is and so, 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.919 you know, I'll travel for these things once in a while, 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.240 but this was one of the things. It's kind of 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.039 like a junket where they take you out there and 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.160 you know, they you're out there for two days, forty 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.400 eight hours, a whole bunch of other journalists and tech 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.120 folks out there, well maybe not just tech, mostly car people. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:37.240 And I love it because, you know, I get to 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.279 hang with all these people that know a lot about cars. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.280 So for me, it's a great education just to talk 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.759 to all these other people that cover cars about what's 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.120 happening in the industry, what's going on in the world 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.240 of cars, and just their take on everything. And so 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.200 that's like a side note. You know, I get to 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.600 see these cars and test drive them, but I also 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.120 get this whole hand. You know, it's gonna say hands 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:04.200 on time, but that's maybe with the cars. Uh Anyway, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.360 So this is just so silly, and I just feel 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.320 like I have to share because I'm so embarrassed what 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.080 happened to me. So this trip has been going on, 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.280 you know, we had a planned for so long. Talk 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.400 to the travel people, they're you know, they're organizing the trip, 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.080 and it's it's in Arizona, Sedona, to be exact, and 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.000 so Sedona is like a two hour drive from Phoenix. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.680 But you know, you can't really fly into Sedona. So 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:32.000 I'm scheduling the flight from lax to Phoenix, and I'm 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.799 talking with the person on the other end, the travel people. 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.040 They're giving me some options for flights, and I keep saying, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.040 you know, back and forth, Okay, well I should probably 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:40.880 do this flight because it's like a two hour drive 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.160 back to from Sedona or to Sedona, whatever and whatever. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.760 I get my flights. I get there, I pack, I 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.200 look at the weather for Sedona. I finally land in Phoenix. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:53.080 I did not I don't know what was going on 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.440 with me, but I didn't realize how quick the flight 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.800 was from Los Angeles to Phoenix. I was, you know, 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.520 I was getting ready for like a three hour, two 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.400 and a half hour flight. I don't know why. It 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.720 was forty five minutes. So that was number one. We 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.760 land in Phoenix and I get to the person that's 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.240 driving me and I say, oh, we got a long 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.800 drive ahead. Huh, gotta buckle in, And he's like, long 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.840 drive it's like twenty minutes to Scottsdale. I'm like, wait what. 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.919 So my thesis is, my point of this is we 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.160 were going to Scottsdale, Arizona, not Sedona, Arizona. And I 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.040 had told my wife. She I was like, Oh, aren't 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.600 you jealous? I'm going to Sedona. This whole time, I 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.720 think I'm going to Sedona, and I get there and 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.640 this driver's like, no, the whole thing is taking place 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.080 in Scottsdale. Okay, both cities start with an S. I 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.960 get it, but I don't know what to say here. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:47.160 My point is, even with the most advanced technology flight 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.040 tracking tools maps, I looked up our hotel on Google Maps, 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.320 and I still didn't realize that it was in Scottsdale 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.480 and not Sedona. So why am I telling you this? Yeah, 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.480 because I feel really dumb. That's why you could have 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.600 all the technology in the world and still if you're 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.560 not paying attention to details, you're going to miss something. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.520 And the best part was when I was talking to 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.240 some of the other journalists there. One of the guys 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.680 was like, oh, you're the guy that thought he was 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.040 going to Sedona because my driver was telling me that 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:16.719 there was a guy that he picked up before me, 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.880 that thought he was going to Sodona and he anyway, 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.280 So I figured i'd share that. So don't feel bad 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.440 when you make a mistake in this world, because you 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.920 know what it happens to the best of us. Now, 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.360 I could talk the entire show about AI, because that's 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.440 really what's happening in the tech world. I'm not going 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:35.760 to talk about a whole bunch of it, but I 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.640 do want to talk a little bit about what's happening here. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.240 So if you saw that picture of the pope and 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.960 the puffy jacket, that picture fooled the entire world apparently, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.200 and this was a picture that was made by AI 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:53.600 and apparently by a Chicago man. This pope in the 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.479 white puffy coat just took over the internet. Everyone was 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.400 retweeting this picture, and of course it looks silly. It 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.320 looked too, you know, kind of looked like it was real. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.680 But you're also like, oh, maybe he does do that. 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.120 I don't know, but it was fake and it was 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:10.599 made by AI. And it has made me realize that example. 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.680 And also my sister sent me a link to a 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.719 YouTube video and we were debating whether we trust it, 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.680 whether it's right, whether it's wrong. It has made me 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.599 realize that we are now living in a time when 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.280 you might not be able to believe anything that you 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.840 see or hear. Let me say that again. We're living 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.680 in a time when you may not be able to 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.120 believe anything that you see or hear. I'm not talking 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.560 different opinions. I'm not talking you see someone on the 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.640 news and you don't agree with them, and you don't 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.440 believe what they're saying. I'm talking when you see something 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.599 with your own eyes or hear it with your own ears, 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.839 it may not be real. This is how good AI 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.800 has gotten in just the six months or so that 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.720 we've been seeing it on a big level. So the 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.400 AI that we're using, the AI tools like bard and 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.320 bing and chat GBT, they say right on them, this 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.719 is known to hallucinate. What does that mean? It makes 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.640 stuff up. It just pulls stuff out of thin air. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:11.280 It's a computer. It says wrong answers with confidence. It 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.440 says stuff that you think is right and it's not. 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:19.240 Now today Twitter is supposedly taking away verified badges from 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.599 traditionally verified folks like myself. If you go to my 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.720 Twitter page at rich on Tech, you'll see I've got 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.760 a blue badge, right, That blue badge, for many years 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.640 has meant that, oh Rich is verified, This rich on 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.080 tech is who he says he is. But apparently Twitter 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.840 is taking that away now. They haven't done it just yet, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.039 but everyone is tweeting now saying, ah, this is the 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.920 end of it. I'm it's over. You know, no one's 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.600 gonna know who I am. There's gonna be a lot 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.800 of people, you know, IMPOSSI faking to be other people? 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.200 What does that mean? Again? Now, when you're on Twitter, 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.679 you may not be able to trust what you're seeing 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.599 from someone that you thought was the person that's tweeting that. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.039 Someone may register rich on tech with underscores and you 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:02.520 may go on there and say, oh, this is what 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.240 Rich is saying, but it's not me, And how do 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.080 you know it's me? How do you know which one 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.279 is me? You won't anymore unless I pay eight bucks 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.600 a month, which I'm not going to do. I did 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.280 it for a month and it just I didn't get 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.120 anything out of it, and I'm certainly not paying for 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.160 a blue check mark that I've had for free for 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.200 I don't know how many years, ten years. So this 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:24.280 is a problem who you trust and why you trust them. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.880 This is going to become a big problem with the Internet, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.040 with AI, with all of this stuff that's happening. Anyone 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.440 can create a video that is generated that looks like someone. 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.280 Anyone can create a picture that's generated that looks like something. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.080 Anyone can create an article and post it and say 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:43.760 that this is true. Well, that's been going on for 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.160 a long time now. It is getting really tricky out 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.680 there now. If you saw this, if you're following with 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.240 any of this stuff, you saw this AI letter that 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.640 you know is big on the news. Over one thousand people, oh, 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:59.800 over thirty thousand people signed it, including Elon Musk, Steve Wozniak, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.400 leading AI researchers. They all called for a six month 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.600 pause on AI systems more powerful than GPT four, which 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.440 is the latest version of Chat GPT. But apparently a 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.160 lot of these people signing it were fake. People just 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.160 signed for them, and a lot of these people behind 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.239 the signatures, like Elon Musk, he might want to pause 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.080 chat GPT progress because guess what he's got competing AI 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.360 companies he wants to work for. He used to be 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.120 a part of Open Ai, and he kind of left 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.120 that company on bad terms. He didn't want to be 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.640 there anymore because they didn't want to do things his way. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.680 So even a letter that wants to stop AI is 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.439 kind of a huge mess. It's just something that is 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.679 we can't even trust the letter, the petition about AI. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.320 I don't know what's going to happen with all this stuff. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.160 This is really really getting tricky. Now. I'm a journalist, 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.040 classically trained journalist, right, so what do I do. I 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.320 talk about the truth. I put facts in my stories. 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.960 I say stuff that I think is vetted. You know, 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.000 I look and I cross check, if you see, before 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.000 I send out an email with my story that I 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.760 air on TV, I check people's names and spellings and 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.160 facts over and over and over, just to make sure 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.000 everything's right. Guess what, a lot of people don't do 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.320 that anymore. You can be on tiktoking about two seconds. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.120 You can be on Instagram in two seconds. You can 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.240 be on Twitter in two seconds. So the reality is 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.520 we as people need to start doing a little bit 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.439 more research for ourselves before you just share something. Before 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.720 you just take for granted that something that you're seeing 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.199 online is true, you got to figure out is it. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:37.600 That's a lot of work. By the way, it's a 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.520 lot of a lot of work for us. It's a 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.000 lot of work for me as a journalist that you know, 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.199 my full time job is to do that. But as 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.199 a regular person, you're flipping through Facebook and you've got 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.960 to figure out, now if is this picture real? If 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:51.440 you want to see an example of this, go to 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.560 my Instagram at rich on Tech. Check out my stories. Okay, 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:59.320 and I posted this morning some personal news. After much thought, 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.960 I've traded in my ev for something much more practical, 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.960 and I've got this kind of classic car in the background. 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:09.160 And the reality is I used an AI program to 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.520 replace the car that I was standing in front of 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.200 with this other car. And now, to let people in 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.640 on the joke, I did a whole bunch of different cars. 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.520 So if you flip through my stories, you'll see how 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.080 many different cars I put in there, And it's all 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.440 kind of a joke, just to let people know that 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.959 this is what's possible, and it's so good, and it's 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.520 with an app that's free. And by the way, I'll 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.240 talk about that app later in the show. Anyway, be 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.000 on your toes with all this AI stuff. You really 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:33.960 need to be all right. We got a great show 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.240 today coming up. We're gonna talk about GM. I think 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.240 they're making a really bad move. They are dropping car play. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.200 That is not good when people really seek out cars 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.480 with car play. We'll talk about that. We're going to 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.000 talk about the demise of E three. This is the 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.840 big video game show. It is not happening this year. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.280 We'll talk about why that is. Later in the show, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.720 we'll talk about the dos and don'ts of taking a 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.079 vacation spring break for a lot of people. Should you 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.120 work on that trip. We'll talk to an expert who 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.280 has some thoughts on that, and later I'll tell you 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.840 about the best flight tracking app. We're gonna have the 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.920 founder of that app telling why they started flighty. That's 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.160 all coming up, plus your calls at triple eight rich 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.400 one on one. That's eight eight eight seven four to 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:19.160 two four one zero one. You're listening to rich on Tech. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.640 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:27.480 out with you talking technology. Phone lines are open at 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.160 triple eight rich one oh one that's eight eight eight 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.800 seven four to two four one zero one. You can 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.760 also email hello at rich on Tech dot TV or 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:44.240 go to the website. Rich on tech dot TV phone 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.240 number is listed right at the top. All right, so 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:53.080 I mentioned before that GM is planning to phase out 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:59.000 Apple car Play in their cars. Now apparently, according to Reuters, 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.880 this is in their e So I don't know if 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.440 it's all of the cars, but definitely evs Okay, So 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.280 let's just assume that it's just EV's. But here's a deal. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.240 The whole world is shifting to EV's now. I will 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:15.400 tell you as someone who really really enjoys Apple car Play, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.480 the car I have now does not have it. And 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.560 the cars I did before I purchased them because they 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.680 had car Play and I really wanted that, like that 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.760 was a thing, like it, like there was no I 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.520 was not making a decision on these cars if they 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.319 didn't have car play, like it was just not a thing. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.040 But then the car I really wanted didn't have it, 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:37.960 so I had to go with it, and I every 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.280 day I regret it now I don't. I mean, I 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.240 like my car. I just it's one of those things 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.840 that I miss every single day because it's so simple. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.880 So you and I'm not singling out car play, I 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.440 mean Android Auto is just as good and it's one 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.800 of these things where you already have your phone. You've 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.920 already got your phone figured out, You've got the apps 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.000 you like, You've got the services you like, you've got 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.400 the connection you like. Why should we try something different? Well, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.280 according to Reuter's General, Motors is going to phase out 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:11.160 car Play and Android Auto instead shifting to an infotainment 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:15.480 system developed with Google for their future electric vehicles. Now, 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.679 it's not so bad that it's developed with Google. I've 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.440 seen some of these other cars, like a Pollstar, they 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.600 have Google inside their car. And the reality is it's fine. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.120 But here's the thing. People that have an iPhone are 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.800 not going to be happy. They're not going to be 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.280 happy because they want to be able to plug in 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.839 their phone and use CarPlay just the way they use 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.760 it in their car today, or use their iPhone or 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.719 set up their screen the way they like it. And 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:44.920 by the way, they have an iPhone because they don't 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:48.240 want Google. They don't necessarily like Google, and so they 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:53.720 don't want to use a separate infotainment system. Let's see. Now, 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.360 here's the other thing. Chevrolet really had a lot of 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.480 emphasis on CarPlay in the past, and when you rented 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.480 a car, it was nice and easy to use when 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.680 you bought a car. It was just super easy because 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.360 you knew it worked in there if you had a GM. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.720 Here's what my kick Me, executive director of Digital Cockpit 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.600 Experience told Reuters. We have a lot of new driver 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.920 assistance features coming that are more tightly coupled with navigation. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.320 We don't want to design these features in a way 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.280 that are dependent on a person having a cell phone, really, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.000 because everyone has a cell phone. I mean, I don't 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.440 think people are really sad that they have to use 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.680 their cell phone for their car. Buyers of new evs 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.480 from GM will get systems with access to Google Maps 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.000 and Google Assistant, a voice command system at no extra 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.080 cost for eight years. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:38.920 Now. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.840 I also learned this at the Hyundai event. I did 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.240 not realize that a lot of these services that you 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.000 have in your car are included for a certain amount 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.080 of time. They're not forever. So if you look at 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:57.240 these connections, they did this really good slide. So with Chevy, 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.840 let's see you get ten years of remote diagnostics, Ford 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:06.920 its complementary. Let's see Toyota's ten years, Honda Honda complimentary 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.080 complimentary for Hyundai, and then let's see Nissan three years, 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:16.680 Kia one to five years, Subaru is three years, and 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.480 then Volkswagen five years in Tesla eight years. So it's 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.000 interesting that you think that these things that you have 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.040 in your car, this connectivity package or whatever, is going 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.120 to last forever. But no, these companies may charge after 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.680 a certain point. And that's one of the things that 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.320 Hyundai's doing is they're actually making it unlimited for the 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.680 lifetime of the first owner, which I think is going 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.400 to force a lot of other car makers to do 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.440 the same. But the thing about all this is that 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.320 you know, what you see on that screen in the 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.640 middle of your car is really starting to change. And 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.080 we saw a lot of progress with Apple car Play 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.440 and what they're doing there, and a lot of progress 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:58.280 with Google, and I think that this is a step back. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.200 I really do. I think that many people want CarPlay 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.920 in the center console if they have an iPhone, and 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.080 for GM to just say, now, with our evs, we're 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.200 just going to do our own thing, I'll say that's 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:11.960 probably one of the biggest complaints I have about the 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:16.160 Tesla is that it has its own software and it's fine, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.320 but I don't understand why they don't just use something 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.120 that's better. I mean, I kind of do understand, because 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.360 if you think about it, Tesla. One of the magic 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.920 parts of the Tesla is that they have the automatic 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.840 ev routing, and so if you want to route, you know, 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.120 if you just want to use your GPS, it'll tell 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.240 you when you need to stop to get a charge. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.760 And so I do understand that if you're using something 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.000 like CarPlay or Android Auto, and these car makers are 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.800 really trying to integrate those systems of when to charge 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.240 in their cars, which is something that a lot of 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.680 these other automakers don't do. Right now, that's a problem 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.320 if you're trying to use you know, Android Auto or CarPlay, 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.360 and so I do understand that aspect of it, but 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.840 I think this is a little near sighted for the amount. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.800 I just don't think they realize how many people do 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:06.040 appreciate having that feature. So anyway, one thing I wanted 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.280 to mention. I didn't mention this earlier with the the 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.920 Phoenix stuff, but when I traveled, I noticed I did 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.159 not get my points for my Southwest flight, and so 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:15.800 I was like, I wonder if I can get them. 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.880 After the fact, I realized my number was not in there, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.120 and I went on their website and sure enough, there's 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:21.840 a little space where you can say, hey, give me 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.000 credit for a pass flight. I popped in my confirmation 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.399 number and the points were there within a couple of minutes. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.320 So if you ever take a flight and you forgot 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.840 to put your frequent flyer number in which it can happen, 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.760 go to the website of the airline and see if 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.000 there's like a place to redeem past flight credits or 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.439 you know, get points for past flights. Because I was 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.960 surprised how easy the process was, because all this stuff 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.800 is online. Don't even need to call someone, and it happened. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.280 They said, oh, we'll get back to you in like 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.639 forty eight hours. It happened like almost instantly. Coming up 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.520 more rich on Tech. We got your calls at triple 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.199 eight rich one oh one. Give me a call eight 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.320 eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.080 Coming up, we're going to talk about E three and 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.360 why it's not happening this year. You're listening to rich 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:10.840 on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.159 here hanging out with you talking technology at triple eight 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:18.120 rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:23.320 to two four one zero one uh give out the 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.520 email address hello at rich On tech dot TV, Mark 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.440 wrote in about my Scottsdale and Sedona story. He said, 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.920 both great places to visit. Years ago, when I worked 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.280 for a commuter airline in the Midwest, we had a 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.320 lady get off the plane in Grand Rapids, Minnesota. She 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.840 looked around, then told the gate agent, this doesn't look 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.040 like Grand Rapids, Michigan, which of course it wasn't. Everyone 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.840 who issued or looked at her ticket did not realize 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:50.159 that GPZ Minnesota was not GRR Michigan. She was on 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.120 the first flight out the next day, as there are 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.679 no other flights that night. Mark and Phoenix, Arizona. See Now, 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.359 I don't feel that bad. At least I flew to 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.359 the right place. But I've had people. In fact, the 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.399 woman in front of me for the Southwest when I 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:08.520 was flying out a burbank, she actually she was on this. 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.560 She got to the thing and the person looked at 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:11.919 her ticket and was like, no, this is not the 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.719 right flight she is. So it happens, and I think 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.800 with Southwest specifically, if you've never flown them, sometimes their 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.960 flights will literally take like three hops like my flight 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:26.400 was going Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Denver or something like that. 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.800 Like there was three cities packed into one flight. It's 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.000 unique in that way. All right, So E three it's 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.520 been announced that it's not happening this year. This is 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.480 the big video game show that usually happens in downtown 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:42.040 Los Angeles every year, and it's not happening. This is 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.560 a very popular show but apparently no more. So here 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.120 to talk about it is Rebecca Valentine. She is a 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.840 reporter at IGN. Rebecca, thanks for joining me. 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.399 Hey, Rich, thank you so much for having me correct me. 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.679 If I'm wrong. Did you you guys broke this story? 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:57.000 Right? 0:19:58.640 --> 0:19:58.880 Yeah? 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.639 Yeah, So what the deal? So E three stands for 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.439 the Electronic Entertainment Expo. I've been many times over the years, 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.840 and it's the show where they kind of show off 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.359 all the new video games people come from all over. 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.280 They opened it up to the public in recent years. 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:15.920 So tell me what happened this year. 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.560 Yeah, So it's there's like a little bit of history. 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.639 I guess it's sort of helpful contextually, But like the 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.960 show's been in trouble for the last several years. Like 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.919 for years it was just a business conference mainly for 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.600 media and for people to do business deals. Then a 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:32.479 couple of years back they opened it to the public 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.000 and there was there are some you know, controversies to 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:36.520 whether that was a good idea or not. It kind 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.560 of changed the form out of the show. And then 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:43.200 in twenty twenty, COVID nineteen pandemic happened, and they obviously 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.080 canceled as all the events canceled, but there there was 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.240 kind of some reports that things were not going great 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.920 behind the scenes at that point anyway. And so then 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.879 in twenty twenty one they had in all Digital showcase 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:58.040 that was kind of you know, not not especially well received. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.240 It was kind of kind of muted, I guess. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:01.080 And then in. 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.200 Twenty twenty two they were supposed to have a show 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:04.720 and they said they were going to have a show, 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:06.800 and then they canceled again and said they needed time 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.320 to sort of you know, prepare a big comeback for 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.800 E three. And so this year they brought on RePOP 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.440 which usually runs PAX events, which is another consumer focused 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.000 gaming conference that happened in a couple of places across 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:21.879 the world a couple times a year. And that's a 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:25.280 successful one, right, Yes, tax the tax is very successful, 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:27.360 it's very well loved. It's much smaller than E three, 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.480 and it is a consumer show specifically, but yeah, people 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.440 love tax It's a great show. But yeah, they brought 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.480 Redpop on and there at the beginning, there was a 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.360 lot of conversation about how it seemed to be going well. 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:42.159 People seem to be buying in, but kind of just 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:45.200 a confluence of crappy things sort of led to a 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.280 lot of publishers dropping out. A lot of companies still 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.800 haven't brought on. You know, they laid off event staff 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.080 when the pandemic happened, or they cut events budgets pretty 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.040 significantly because they didn't need to have in person events, 0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:00.159 and they haven't really fueled those again. Covid disrupt did 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.280 a lot of development cycles for people, and so they 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.520 don't necessarily have big game demos ready to show on 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.000 the show floor. Takes a lot of work to make 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.040 those things. And then just there was just kind of 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.960 a disorganized a little bit of disorganization from what disorganization 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.119 from what I understand, kind of lack of communication is 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.639 what my sources tell me on that, and kind of 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:22.960 a lack of faith that this show was going to 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.679 be worse, the amount of money that companies would need 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.000 to put into it. So SOLLY has been kind of 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:33.240 checked out for several years. Nintendo and Xbox found said 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:34.919 that they were not going to be there, and then 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.200 you'd be Saft, followed suits and then Sega and Tencent, 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.359 and it just there were so many people kind of 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.360 waiting for someone else to jump into the pool and say, yeah, 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.359 I'm committed to E three, I'm gonna I'm going to 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:45.760 be there and make this worth it that you know. No, 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:47.960 but nobody actually took the leap, and so it was 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.720 two months out of getting more and more expensive to cancel, 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:51.720 and so they had to bail. 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:55.440 Oh wow, So what does this mean for the video 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.920 game industry? Aren't there competitor shows that are now sort 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:01.440 of happening more online or what does this mean for 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:02.040 the industry. 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.080 I think it's it's less a causal kind of thing 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.000 and more a symptom of the industry slowly changing, sort 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.760 of in response to the pandemic and some other things. 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:13.600 So kind of one of the things that people discovered 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:17.120 during the pandemic is that they could successfully have digital showcases. 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.480 You know, at E three, it's a week long thing. 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.720 It's not just a it was not just a floor show. 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.439 It was also a bunch of digital showcases where Xbox 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.520 and Sony and Nintendo and all these other third party 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.959 Triple A publishers were having these big showcases announcing all 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:33.800 their stuff, and it was all happening at once, So 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.440 there was always kind of this conversation around, oh, who 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.480 want E three? We're all competing here, and if you 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.760 had a big announcement, it kind of got drowned out 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:44.080 by someone else inevitably, And so everybody discovered that they 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.399 could just successfully do digital showcases at any time of 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.600 the year and speak directly to their audience and take 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:51.960 up all the spotlights that they wanted. And if they 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.439 wanted to show games to press, they could do that 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:56.959 at Gamescom, they could do that effectively. At packs they 0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:00.080 could just fly select press outlets out on their their 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.520 own dime and do a little showcase in their office. 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:04.480 You know, there's all all kinds of different ways they 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:06.840 can do that. And you know, business deals still happen 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.280 at other shows like Games Common Germany or you know, 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.119 in other places, and so I think there's a lot 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:13.879 of different factors. But I think I think the industry 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:15.560 just sort of kind of discovered over time that they 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:17.840 didn't really need E three. And I think we're still 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.840 going to have sort of a little bonanza of digital showcases, 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:25.560 and Jeff Keeley's got an event going on in LA 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:27.560 around that time to show some games for the press 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.239 as well. But I think I think we're just going 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:32.639 to foresee a dissipation of what E three used to be. 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:33.040 I don't. 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.200 I don't necessarily feel confident it's going to come back, 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.560 but I also think that maybe the industry has moved 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.000 past it. 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.000 It's kind of sad. I mean, you know, being based 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.840 in Los Angeles, it was always kind of fun to 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:44.840 go there, you know, once a year in June. I'm 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:46.639 not a huge gamer, but it was just fun to 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:48.840 be there with the people and to see what was 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.560 going on and of course play some of the games. 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:55.280 Do you think that you know, there was a benefit 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:59.280 to being in person versus you know, virtual. 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.920 Oh, certainly. And I think there's a benefit for certain people, 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.320 right Like, there's plenty of other consumer shows, So I don't. 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.080 I don't necessarily feel like that element is lost, but 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.800 I do feel there was been the media side, certainly, 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.720 there's quite the loss because having literally everybody in one 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.359 spot for a week was super convenient, and it was 0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.240 also you know, very very helpful for access, right Like 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.439 companies would offer up you know, executives for interviews, or 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:25.440 they would have game demos or developers that you could 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:27.040 talk to, and they were all kind of there in 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.280 a way that they're not necessarily there all year round. 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:30.760 And so I think the thing that I'm sort of 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.320 afraid of happening is that long term we see kind 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:37.000 of access dry up and media less and less able 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.520 to actually be able to ask tough questions of companies 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.600 or you know, get get really useful information for players 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:44.960 about what's going on with games and inside games. I 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.720 hope there are you know, other avenues, and I hope, 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.760 I hope companies continue to provide those opportunities, but E 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.240 three was really sort of a I don't know, a 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.520 leveling of of that level of access for a lot 0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.640 of people, and I think I think we'll lose out 0:25:58.640 --> 0:25:59.679 without that all. 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.920 Right, before we go, I'm curious what you're looking forward 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:04.560 to this year. I mean, we don't have any new 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.240 consoles coming out, right, so is there games that you're 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:08.199 really looking forward to? 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.199 I feel like this is the easy cop out answer, 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.520 But man, I'm so excited for Tears of the Kingdom. 0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.440 My partner's been playing the Champions ballid DLC for Breath 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.280 of the Wild, and I watched the gameplay showcase earlier 0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.520 this week and I'm just sort of waiting for that 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.640 to come out. I can't focus on any other game 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:25.800 until I get my hands on that. 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:30.200 Okay, And just to explain, that's the new Zelda sequel, right, yes, 0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.520 on the Switch and this comes out when. 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.680 Oh, May twelve. Oh I hope that's right. 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.560 Okay, Well it's coming out soon, so in May sometime. 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.480 And this is also the first Switch game that's going 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.200 to be sixty nine ninety nine. 0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:49.680 Right, yeah, yeah. A lot of other companies are raising 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.840 their prices to round up to seventy dollars, and this 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:54.360 is the first one from Nintendo. 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.800 Do you think that's fair? Do you think that's a 0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.440 fair price for a Switch game? 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.520 Games are more expensive to make, so I get it, Like, 0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.720 I think economically it makes perfect sense given how long 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.040 it takes to make these games and how much person 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.600 power and how much tech and how much everything else 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.879 has to go into them. That's that you know it sucks. 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:16.560 I'm paying ten more dollars. 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.320 Not fun, Yeah, that's for sure. But you know what, 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.399 people loved Breath of the Wild, and so if this 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.440 is even a fraction of that success, I think Nintendo, 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.480 I think the fans will be willing to pay that price. 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.080 Oh absolutely, I'm not worried about that game selling copy. 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:33.000 All right. 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:38.320 Rebecca Valentine Duck Valentine on Twitter, reporter at IGN. Thanks 0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:39.800 so much for joining me today. I appreciate it. 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:41.359 Thank you for having me. 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.920 All right, take care. Coming up, we're going to talk 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.520 about an event that is taking place but kind of virtual, 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:51.760 kind of in person. Apple announces a date for WWDC 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:53.960 twenty twenty three. I'll tell you when that's happening and 0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.639 what we're expecting coming up. Plus your calls at Triple 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.200 eight Rich one on one. That's eight eight eight seven 0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.399 four to two, four to one zero one. You're listening 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:09.119 to Rich on tech. Oh how appropriate. Now, no one 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.240 would call on their cell phone anymore, they would just text. 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.840 Welcome back to Rich on tech. My name is Rich Demiro, 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:19.560 tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles, hanging 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:24.240 out with you talking technology at Triple eight. Rich one 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.680 oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.120 four to one zero one. You can find me on 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:36.200 social media. I am at rich on Tech. I'm on Instagram, Facebook, 0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:41.000 and Twitter. You can find me there and tweet it me. Also, 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.680 if you want to email, you can do that. The 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:49.440 email address is hello at richontech dot TV. Teresa did 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.600 just that. She said, Hey, I got a new phone. 0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.760 I went to the AT and T store. They transferred 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:58.320 my data. Now I don't have my Gmail emails. At 0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.520 and T can't help since it's a different carrier. Of 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.240 course they can't. How do I find them? Of course 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.720 some are very important. Please help me. I'm not electronic savvy. 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:10.240 It frustrates me. Thanks for your help. Candy. Oh interesting, 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.840 I guess she goes by Candy. Email, says Teresa, but 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.720 she signed it Candy. PS. Love your show and appreciate 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.440 all of your knowledge. Well, thank you, Candy. So sweet 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:25.760 of you. See what I did there, Okay, so very easy. 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.520 If you have Gmail, what's happened is your phone is 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.480 just not logged into Gmail. So you just need to 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.000 sign into your Google account and go to the Gmail 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.239 app on your phone and it will be there. So 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.200 I would go on if you have an iPhone or 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:43.200 if you have an iPhone, I would you probably hadn't. 0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.120 I'm guessing you have an iPhone because Android would automatically 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.440 be logged in, so I'm guessing its iPhone. So in 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.560 the case of iPhone, there's two ways you can do it. 0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.920 You can either go to the Mail app, which is 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:58.080 you know m Ail, open up that app and you 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.120 can add an account. And if you don't want to 0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.080 go through the app, you can also go through the 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.240 settings on the iPhone. So if you go to settings, 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:10.600 scroll down until you see Mail, it's under passwords and 0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:14.000 then it says accounts and then you can say add 0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:19.600 account and it'll say iCloud, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, AOL or Outlook. 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.720 So click Google and then just log in with your 0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:27.640 Google account and it will be all synced up. So 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.920 that's one way of doing it. Personally, I like using 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:32.880 the Gmail app, so you can just go to the 0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.520 app store download the Gmail app and you can sign 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.800 in that way. But either way, your emails are safe 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.000 and sound. Believe me, they are not gone because Gmail 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.360 is one of the best email services and everything is 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.640 stored in the cloud, so you are going to be 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:52.960 just okay. Candy, good question, thanks for emailing in, Darren 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:57.160 writes in. Darren writes in, hey, Rich, is it completely 0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:01.320 safe to trade in a phone when resold? Can a 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:06.239 master hacker get any of my deleted data? Thanks? And 0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.520 he sent it from Android, So that is a good question. 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.600 Let me think about that. I mean, there's always a 0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:17.440 potential when you're deleting something on a phone. Most of 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.440 the time it's just getting marked for deletion. It's not 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.600 unless you're over writing that data. It still sort of 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:29.000 exists on the memory. And so unless you're writing something 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.760 over what you just did, it's still there in some way. 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.080 Most of the time, it's just not accessible from the 0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:40.120 standard means of accessing information. But if someone wanted to 0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.360 go in there with some sort of recovery software, they 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.640 could potentially do that. I'm not saying it's a guarantee, 0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.600 but yeah, there's a potential of that. So I have 0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.440 just to let you know. I've resold many phones over 0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.960 the years on eBay and things like that, and I've 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:57.840 never had a problem with this. But yes, I've thought 0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:01.440 about it. So what I would do personally is you 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:05.440 can format the phone twice before you send it out. 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.920 That's one way of doing it. That's probably what i'd recommend. 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:11.880 So if you're not familiar with how to do that 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.920 on the Android, you go into the settings and you're 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.719 going to go into the system and then Advanced, and 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.760 you want to go to reset and you want to 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.240 erase all data factory reset. Now a lot of times 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.560 phones are encrypted these days, so that should probably help 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.160 as well with recovering this stuff, if you know, making 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.040 it tougher to recover. So I think you're probably going 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.760 to be okay. But if you want once you erase 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.720 all the data, it's going to take a little time 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.480 for that to happen. You can set up the phone again. 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:41.840 Just kind of scroll through all the options to set 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.200 it up. Don't log in, don't log into the phone 0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.080 or do anything like that, but just get it to 0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.440 the point where you can access the operating system again, 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.120 and then you can do that one more time and 0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:56.200 factory reset it twice. There's another way to factory reset androids, 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.000 and that's through the recovery mode. And every phone is 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.120 a little bit different, but I think most of the 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.200 time it's holding down either like the power and the 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.880 volume button at the same time. For a very long 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:12.760 time until the Android logo appears, and then sometimes you 0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.120 have to like release the power but hold down the volume. 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:16.920 You can look it up. Just look up like whatever 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.040 model your phone is. If it's a Samsung, say like 0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.360 Samsung S twenty one, recovery mode, and it will tell 0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.280 you how to access the recovery mode. And there's a 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.080 way to format your phone in recovery mode as well. 0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.960 So if you've forgotten the password or you have forgotten 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.960 the pass code on that phone, you can still delete 0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.600 everything off of that phone even in that case, so 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:39.280 if you wanted to sell it or trade it in 0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.240 or whatever. Now, most of the time, if I was 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.080 giving a phone for a trade in, I would not 0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.320 give it with any information on there. So no matter 0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.400 who you're giving this to, I would say, make sure 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.920 that you format this phone, because that's very important to 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.440 make sure that your information is off of there. All right, 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.600 good questions. You have a question, you can email hello 0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.280 at richontech dot com TV, or you can call at 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.680 triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.319 four to two four one zero one and uh Kim 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.560 our amazing call screener also said, Hey, why don't you 0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:17.120 put your phone number on your website. She like whispered it, Hey, Rich, 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.680 put your phone number on the website, and I said, oh, 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.040 great idea. Why didn't I think of that? So if 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.560 you go to Rich on tech dot TV, you can 0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:25.080 see the phone number there. In case I'm saying it 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:29.960 too fast, WWDC, this is Apple's big event. We just 0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:33.400 talked about how just talked about how E three is 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.759 not happening. Now. We didn't mention E three twenty twenty 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.839 three is not happening. They never said that E three 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.319 is never happening again. But our guest Rebecca was kind 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:44.680 of hinting at the fact that it may never come back, 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.080 which is really sad because that's the end of an era, 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.600 especially here in Los Angeles, because that was always a 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.160 show that I look forward to, and I know other 0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.480 gaming enthusiasts looked forward to it, especially when they opened 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.960 it up to the public. Anyone can go. I mean, 0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:58.560 they had a certain amount of tickets, but that was 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.239 kind of cool because you felt like an cider. And 0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.360 it's it's really interesting because we're seeing kind of like 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.839 these big events like Comic Con just seems to get 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:09.239 bigger every year. Is south by Southwest e three, Like 0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.520 some of these events are really really good, and then 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.280 other events we're seeing just kind of dying over the years, 0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:16.719 which is really sad that it's like, you know, it's 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.120 this divergence, like some things are going really well, other 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:23.440 things are just dying out. So Apple WWDC is probably 0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.200 one of the biggest events of the year other than 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.319 the iPhone launch. Apple has announced it's taking place on 0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.239 June fifth. This is not a consumer show. This is 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:35.160 a show where developers go to see what's next with 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.719 iPhones with all the software. If you can imagine so 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:44.920 iOS seventeen, iPadOS seventeen, tvOS seventeen, watch os ten, and 0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.720 mac os fourteen, that's one, two, three, four, five separate 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:53.440 software that developers code for for apps for the iPhone, 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.920 for the iPad, for Apple TV, for the watches, for 0:35:56.080 --> 0:36:00.240 Mac computers. Now, typically they don't do a whole bunch 0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.480 of hardware announcements at this show, but you never know. 0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.600 And this year there's this big rumor that they may 0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:11.080 show off their new AR virtual reality headset. But we've 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.080 been hearing this rumor for so long, I don't know 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.080 if it's going to happen. And also there's also there's 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:16.640 rumors that this thing is gonna be like three to 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.040 four thousand dollars. Nobody right now is paying three to 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.719 four thousand dollars for a virtual reality headset. I don't 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.600 care what company it comes from, and I think Apple 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.200 will be very successful with this, but it's got to 0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.960 be like sub five hundred bucks. This is happening Monday, 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.759 June fifth, that's the big keynote, So I will head well, 0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.799 hopefully i'll head up there. They're having a small in 0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.600 person event. It's invited folks only. I don't know if 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.200 I'll be invited, but it's going to be an online event. 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.520 So in the past, this has been a show that 0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.960 people from all over the world fly in. Developers from 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:48.879 all over the world come in to do this show, 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.040 and to go to these events, and to go to 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.600 these little seminars and you know speakers that they have 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:58.359 from Apple. This is not happening this year except online. 0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:03.400 So June fifth, Friday, June ninth, WWDC, that's when it's happening. 0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.760 All right, more of your calls coming up next. Plus 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.640 we're gonna talk about the dues and don'ts of taking 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.359 a vacation and trying to work at the same time. 0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.200 Triple eight Rich one O one give me a call 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:24.800 if you have a question about tech. All right, welcome 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.640 back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:32.120 talking technology. 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Kevin is in the mountains of Utah. Welcome 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:14.400 to the show. 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.560 Hey, Rich, thanks a million. Congratulations on the show and 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.520 big fan and I think I speak on behalf of everybody. 0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.040 You give it a real community feel. 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:24.840 Oh, thank you. 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:28.799 I did that a lot. My question for you, so 0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:33.160 I was listening to your podcast from last week's show, 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:37.000 and uh so I was setting myself a reminder to 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:41.160 call you to ask this question. So serendipitously, the next 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.800 topic you mentioned was there was a caller for Google 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:49.440 Mesh Wi Fi and you recommended the Villo system, which 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.200 I purchased and it's on the way. But my question 0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:58.840 to you is my issue is that Google Mesh doesn't 0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:04.240 you can't separate the bands. And you know, despite popular belief, 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.360 there's still products that we have that are out, like 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:11.080 say rumbas. There's some laser engravers that I have that 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:15.600 will only run on two point four gigaherts. There was 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.160 a segment on Leo a long time ago when he 0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:21.239 had a suggestion to get as far away from the 0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.480 signal as possible. That way it would only pick up 0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.320 two point four gigaherts, which didn't work. By the way, 0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:32.840 now the mailbox holding my rumba. But so before I 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.840 sell this system, because I've built it up over the years, 0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:40.520 all these different mesh pods, is there a hack in 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.480 order to separate that, because yeah, obviously everybody on forums 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.800 say that you can't do it. I even thought about 0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:51.720 maybe getting a network extender that's only two point four gigaherts, 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.200 but that didn't seem to work either. Is there anything 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:56.959 I can do or should I just stick with the Villa, 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.440 which claims that they can separate. 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.680 So you're okay, So you're on which one right now? 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.279 So I'm on the on Google Mesh. 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.080 Okay, you're on the Google Okay, not the Nest. 0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.200 It's not the Nests, the newest, it's the older version 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:11.520 of it. 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:15.000 So I know, I okay, So I know the Villo. 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.520 I believe you can say, like, hey, do this, I'll 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.799 tell you how it works for mine. Okay, So and 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.720 let me just explain what you're talking about in case 0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.759 you know someone's listening and they're like, wait, what was 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.719 he talking about right now? So a lot of gadgets 0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:31.360 these days are using five gigaherts, which is a band 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.839 of Wi Fi. Most of the time, we don't really 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.240 think about this stuff. You just go on your gadget, 0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.279 it connects to your WiFi. You don't think about what 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.400 band it's using. But there's a lot of gadgets that 0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:45.120 use two point four gigaherts, which is a different band, 0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:47.520 and they each have their pros and cons. By the way. 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.680 So you know, when it comes to two point four gigaherts, 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.520 this is a it has a longer range, so it 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:59.000 goes further. It travels further, but it's slower. Right, five 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.360 gigaherts as a shorter range, but it's faster, And so 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.719 a lot of the new gadgets will use the five gigaherts. 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:09.160 It's just how it works now. Sometimes gadgets, especially these 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:13.239 little Internet connected devices, they will use two point four 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:16.080 even if they're brand new. And that's because I'm guessing 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.960 it's cheaper, just it's a simpler chip. They can build 0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:22.200 it in there. But the problem is when you go 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.120 to connect it to your router. Most of the modern 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:29.120 routers are doing five gigaherts by default, and that two 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.799 point four device does not find the router. Does that 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.160 kind of all make sense to you, Kevin, sure? 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:34.719 Absolutely? 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.400 Okay. So on the eurosystem that I have, it's hidden 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.280 in the settings all the way in like advanced settings. 0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.600 You would never even find this as the average person, 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:45.879 except of course I'm a nerd. So I go through 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:49.160 and look for every single setting on my systems, and 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.800 so I found because I was really having trouble connecting 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:56.760 this little outdoor Wi Fi plug to my smart home system. 0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.000 It just would not find the Wi Fi and I'm like, 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.040 what is going on here? And sure enough I looked 0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:02.920 it up and it was a two point four and 0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.960 my system's a five, And so I found in the 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:10.080 euro settings it will actually if you go to this setting, 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.400 it will flip the network to two point four gigahertz, 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.000 but only for like ten minutes, just to give you 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.160 enough time to connect this gadget, and then it will 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.239 stay on the network on the two point four and 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.680 everything else will to fall back to the five. So 0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.480 I don't know. My long answer is, I'm not sure 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.600 if Google has that setting. It's been a while since 0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:31.440 I played with the settings inside the Google network. But 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.120 have you looked through every single setting on that Google 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:34.759 app and. 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.840 Every Reddit forum, and everybody says it's the only system 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.080 that can't And that's why I thought there might be 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.759 a hack. But then what you mentioned last week where 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:46.680 you said, you know, Google's just got too much. They 0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:48.600 have too many things going on, Yeah, and they don't 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.600 focus on the details. So my plan at this point, 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.160 especially after hearing what you just said, is to stick 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.520 with the Villo. Give that a ride. And thanks for 0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.600 that suggestion about by the way, because that doesn't pop 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.640 up as your you know, ten best options for Mesh systems, 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.840 you know, in twenty twenty three, So that was a 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:10.920 that was a real pearl, So I appreciate it. 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:11.200 Thank you. 0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:11.480 Yeah. 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.400 I mean, look, and the stuff I recommend like that 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:16.319 is stuff that I personally test out, and like I 0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.200 tested this system and I thought it was great. I 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:19.840 mean it really and I've tested. Actually they have a 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.800 new one now, they have a Villo six and it's 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:24.839 just as good. I mean, I've got euro at home, 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.120 which is is excellent. It's like known to be one 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.080 of the best. I've had it for a long time, 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.719 you know, several different versions actually, and I do like it, 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.640 but I think that there's other options, and Villa is 0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:36.839 also a lot cheaper. Now here's the other thing I'm 0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:41.440 trying to look. I'm looking at this Google see now 0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.839 it says how you know have you I'm looking at 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.000 this Nest Wi Fi kind of support form, and it 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:50.880 looks like it somehow supports this, but I don't. 0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:54.080 Okay, hold on, it has both both two point four 0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:59.680 and five, but you can't create a separate SSID specifically 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:04.480 for the two point four and that's it just auto assigns. 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.880 That's the problem. So after spending so many years building 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:12.360 up this mesh system, now just to like, now I 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.120 have to rename the network for every single thing again. 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.120 But you know, if the Villo solves that, which it 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:23.319 appears it does, then I'll just stick with that. I 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.319 just wanted to double check before I went through the 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.440 hassle where I could still return it to Amazon if 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:29.040 I needed to. 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.279 It's interesting because the Google stuff says that devices that 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.400 support only the two point four gigahertz band, such as 0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.520 an older phone, will automatically connect to the band on 0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.120 your system, and it's not doing that. 0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.840 Not at all. And even in the home the Google 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.680 Home app, so when they used to have the Wi 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:54.200 Fi app, there was there there there were two separate SSIDs. 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.920 So by by their way of improving and I do 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.680 air quotes with that their system, they removed some of 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:09.160 the essentials. So I yeah, that's that's pretty much the case. 0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.880 I've spent probably a couple of weeks looking for different options, 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.080 and the best one was, I believe it or not, 0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.680 was walking as far away from your house as possible 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:19.760 with a device. 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.920 And I mean, it's an interesting suggestion. I mean, I 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:26.480 guess you know that may work, and you have an 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.239 Android Do you have an Android phone that you can 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.160 use to kind of look at what this thing is 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.160 putting out as well? Like what? Yeah? 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:36.520 And I tried that with my, uh my Galaxy tablet 0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.880 or the Samsung tablet that I have. And so that 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.520 leads me to the other part of it. Is the 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:46.880 device that you're connecting is it being is it connecting 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.520 based on the gigahertz that's on the mobile device that 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:54.279 you're using to connect it to the network. So if 0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:57.800 my phone, for instance, is on two point four gigaherts 0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:01.640 or the Android at that time, and I'm adding device 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:05.560 X to the network, is it seeing the gigahertz that 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.000 is on my phone or is it No? 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.439 I don't think so, because I think the device. Most 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.480 of the ways that these devices connect to Wi Fi 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:16.399 at this point is it sort of hands over the 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.719 information to that device and then that device goes and 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.360 connects on its own. That's how most of the modern devices. 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.960 Maybe the older devices didn't, but that's the way I'm 0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.480 seeing a lot of these things working at this point. 0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.640 But OK, well, it sounds like you know, I'm hoping 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.719 that all this two point four and five kind of 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.400 goes away in the future, but it's definitely it's still 0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:37.640 like a tricky thing for a lot of people, and 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.480 I believe me, I get a lot of questions about it. 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:41.920 So it's definitely still a thing that nobody has really 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:44.320 really figured out. And by the way, with that plug 0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.600 that I couldn't figure out, I ended up having just 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:48.360 I just wrote back to the company, I said, this 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.640 does not work with my network. It still wouldn't connect 0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:53.040 even with all of that stuff, and so I ended 0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:55.960 up getting a different, different plug and it worked just fine. 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:57.520 Soh gotcha. 0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.399 Yeah, Okay, Well I'll try out the villow and I'll 0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:01.400 see if that pans out. 0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.719 I'll let you know, all right, Kevin, please report back. 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:04.799 Thanks for enjoying the show. 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.080 Hey, thanks rich all right, take care. 0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.359 All right, If you have a question, give me a call. 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.759 It's triple eight Rich one on one eight eight eight 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.439 seven four to two four to one zero one. If 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:19.600 you have t mobile, go ahead, open up that Tuesday 0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:22.880 t Mobile Tuesday's app and redeem your free season of 0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.920 MLB TV. 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Welcome back 0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:14.360 to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out talking technology. 0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:20.239 I just like this song, so all right, phone lines 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.160 are open at eight eight eight rich one O one 0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:25.200 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:29.200 I actually this song mentions Japan, and I actually listened 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.920 to the song many many times when I was in Japan, 0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:36.920 just to kind of, you know, identify with it. All right, 0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:41.799 let's go to am, I saying, is it Elena in 0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:46.439 West Covina? Elena, Hi Elena, Hi Elena. How are you? 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:47.760 I'm great. 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:51.640 I love your show. I've never missed you on KCLA ever. 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:56.440 Oh well, thank you. You are my ideal fan. 0:49:58.800 --> 0:49:59.880 That's why I'm here to call. 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:00.759 I'll talk to you. 0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:02.680 Well, talk to me. What's going on? 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:08.080 Well, I have an app idea that hasn't very I haven't. 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:09.719 It's one of. 0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.400 Those share ideas, you know, app share things, but I 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:14.920 haven't seen my twist of it. 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:17.400 You mean, share like a sharing economy app. 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:19.560 Yeah, one of those. 0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.040 Okay, sure, but I haven't seen it. 0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.200 Because if you don't have it on your show, it's 0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:28.840 either not there yet or maybe somebody has it and 0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:32.240 they haven't produced it. But by the way, your screener 0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:35.279 and producer, Kim is really not We love Kim. 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:37.000 I know she doesn't get to be on the show 0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:39.400 like she used to be. I mean just yet, I mean, 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:42.560 we're look, this show is still evolving, so right now 0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.200 she's kind of like nameless, faceless just picking up the calls. 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:49.319 But she is still there. Yes, and she loves each 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.920 and every one of you, and so do I. And 0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:54.640 we love Kim too. So, okay, you have this idea, 0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.480 and do you want to share the idea with us 0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:00.239 or do you want to just talk in in abstract here? 0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.200 And what do you want to do with this idea? 0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:06.480 Abstract? And I don't mind emailing it to you when 0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:08.200 it gets because you know, you have to write a 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:12.120 venture capitalist and get a pro prototype video. But I 0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:16.040 do have you know, I have a disability myself, and 0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:18.960 at some point I'm going to probably have to use 0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.560 some kind of form of AI just because. 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:26.920 Well you know, we all will. It's taken over like 0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.560 fifty percent of our jobs. So no matter what. Now 0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.279 is this saying, is this an app related to a 0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:35.399 disability kind of functionality or. 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.000 What it's It's not? 0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:41.920 Uh not? I mean it it's going to help people 0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:45.000 with disability. Well okay, like a disability centered app. 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:48.920 Okay, yeah, but that's that's helpful enough. So that's great. 0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:53.360 Yeah. So and I wrote down I having a braille 0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:55.359 actually before I have it, and spraying because I keep 0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:57.680 adding stuff and then I keep deleating. 0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.000 You know, yeah, of course, like any good it's evolving. 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:04.080 Yeah, okay, but I you know, want to make sure 0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:06.360 I can get it in the right hand, find the 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:09.640 proper I know I have to get a proto type video. 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:11.839 I know it has to take one step at a time, 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.160 because if I think of it all in one totality, 0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.600 I get one big picture. I get really over oil. 0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:20.719 And we know from watching Shark Tank that good ideas 0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:25.000 take a long time to develop. Sometimes it could take 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:30.120 years and nothing happens overnight. That's that's good, So we 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.080 have to keep that in mind. It's a very long 0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:33.960 process no matter what, even if you have a hit 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.120 on your hands, you know, overnight sensations take a long time. 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.920 So I think it sounds like this is something that 0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:45.200 you may want to get some resources that are maybe 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:48.200 free or some people to help you along with this. 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.719 I feel like in this community there are resources that 0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:56.080 you can get and that may involve some programs that 0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:59.080 can help guide you along with this process, or maybe 0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:04.320 some even fun scholarships, you know, grants, all those types 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.319 of things. And so have you told anyone about this, 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:08.600 Like how far along are you? 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:14.560 I'm just in the writing process. I did find a 0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:19.360 promising video, like because I'm figuring, I'm just looking up 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:21.239 with Timbo the app is on our phones and do 0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.040 a little prototype by the way, somebody. 0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:23.799 Will really understand it. 0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:26.480 Okay, Well there's a and by the way, one of 0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:28.600 my favorite tools right now is Canva. Have you heard 0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:33.480 of that U c A, n v A, Yeah, Canva 0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:37.200 dot com, So you can you can create really cool 0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:39.560 videos on that and you may be able to kind 0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:42.520 of get your little sizzle real going through there. So 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:44.560 that's a good way of going about it. But I 0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:46.920 would look, you know, it sounds like you're gonna need 0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.799 to get some assistance with this, and that could be 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:54.560 through you know, a program in your area or you know, 0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.279 even I mean, obviously there's freelancers that you can hire 0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.319 to kind of code something maybe rudimentary on like Fiver 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:03.440 or something like that. But it doesn't sound like you're 0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:05.920 going to code this yourself, if I'm understanding. So it 0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:07.680 sounds like you're gonna have to pair up with someone 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:10.160 at some point that knows a little bit more about 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.799 the inner workings and the VC stuff and all that. 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:14.719 That may come a little bit later after you have 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:17.399 something that's a little bit further along, or you can 0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:19.480 just go ahead and pitch it and maybe find some 0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:23.200 local vcs in the LA where you West Covina area. 0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.160 That may you know, that may do small you know 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.319 projects like this that may become bigger over time. But 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:33.040 no matter what, it's it's a very slow process. It's 0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.239 a methodical process, and it's like anything else. You're going 0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:37.440 to talk to a lot of people, a lot of 0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:39.560 people are going to say they can help you. Maybe 0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.680 one percent of those people actually will, and a lot 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.520 of the resources you look at will turn out to 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.200 be dead ends and things that just don't work. But 0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:48.040 you just got to keep on it. And just from 0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:50.320 hearing what you're telling me in the past couple of minutes, 0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:52.360 I think it sounds like you have something pretty unique 0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.560 and something that can help a unique community as well 0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:59.160 and maybe community at large. So stick with it, stay 0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:02.560 on it, and just slowly but surely build up that 0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:05.680 app and the resources around it, and just just stay 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:08.319 on it. Because I'm excited for you, Elena, I really am. 0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:10.879 Thanks for giving me a call today. Coming up, we're 0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:13.680 going to talk oh one of my favorite topics, the 0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:18.240 dues and don'ts of combining work and play when traveling. 0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:25.000 You're listening to rich on Tech. We'll come right back. 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:33.960 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking 0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:38.560 technology with you and a great topic right now for 0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:43.080 my next guest. Alexandra Samuel is the author of Remote Inc. 0:55:44.520 --> 0:55:48.640 How to Thrive at Work Wherever you are. Alexandra, Welcome 0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:52.239 to the show. Nice to join you, Thanks for being 0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.719 here today. And I saw your article in the Wall 0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:58.200 Street Journal about the does and don'ts of combining work 0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:01.440 and play when traveling, and it really resonated with me 0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:05.640 because you know, I've got kids, I've got work, I travel, 0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:09.080 and of course we're all learning this whole working on 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:11.560 vacation kind of thing. But I have one quick story 0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:13.200 I want to tell before we get into this. Okay, 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:18.160 you ready. So I was on spring break. This was many, 0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:20.719 many years ago. This was probably ten years ago, and 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:22.760 you know, I was just starting at my TV job 0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:25.000 and I was so excited to take my first like 0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.719 nice vacation and I had my mom there and my 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:30.279 wife and my kid. I just had a baby, and 0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.040 it was great. But I said, I'm turning off my 0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.200 phone the entire trip because I am going to disconnect. 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.319 And I literally turned off my phone. I'm a tech person, 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:41.799 I cover technology. Okay, long story short. When I turn 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.440 on my phone on Sunday when I was returning to work. 0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:47.600 The next day, I got like ten emails for a 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:52.200 solid freelance job that was paying a decent amount of money, 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:54.120 by the way, and they were like, Okay, I guess 0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:55.520 we're not hearing from you, so we're going to have 0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:58.480 to move on. And I called them up. I convinced 0:56:58.480 --> 0:56:59.959 them to give me the job. I said, I'm sorry, 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.080 and I explained the whole thing. But I almost lost 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:04.640 a job that was worth a lot of money. And 0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:06.920 by the way, that job continued for like three more years. 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.760 So my point is, I never turn off my phone anymore, 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:12.719 although I do try to limit my use of it. 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:16.000 So that was my story. So I've learned kind of 0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:18.160 like this little balance, but I still don't think I 0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:21.200 have it right. So that's why I'm talking to you. Yeah, 0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:24.120 so your first tip is to be clear whether it's 0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:26.680 a vacation or business trip. So explain that. 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:27.439 Well. 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.800 You know, it's funny, I actually learned that lesson in 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:33.400 California because when my husband and I used to run 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:37.080 a business together, and when our business was new and 0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:40.520 and our eldest was very young, just a toddler, we 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:42.600 had this brilliant idea that since we had a number 0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:45.240 of clients and a number of prospective clients in the 0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:51.160 Bay Area. We would take our family vacation in San Francisco, 0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:53.800 and so we found a house for a couple of weeks, 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:57.960 and we took our kid, and we found, you know, 0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:00.400 a local babysitter who could look after our kid in there, 0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:02.160 and we just kind of went in this lucy goosey 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:04.120 way with the kind of you know, made a couple 0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:07.280 of meetings with clients and figured we would kind of 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:10.640 hustle when we got there, and you know, the whole 0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:12.320 time we were there, we just felt like we were 0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:14.200 being pulled because on the one hand, we wanted to 0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:16.080 make the most of this opportunity to book all the 0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:17.920 meetings possible, and on the other hand, you know, we 0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:19.560 wanted to take our kids to the zoo, we wanted 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:21.400 to go to the Money Aquarium, like all the things 0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:22.960 you want to do when you're on vacation with your 0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:26.000 little toddler for the first time. And so the whole 0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.560 trip just felt like a constant hug of war. And 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:33.000 after that, you know, we got a lot clearer that 0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:35.600 even though one of the joys of running your own 0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:39.120 business is the opportunity to you know, include your family, 0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:42.720 and travel include some work. When you have a family trip, 0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:45.760 you really want to be clear on what your primary 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:49.320 purpose is in any given circumstance, because that gives you 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:51.520 a lens of focus in a way of making decisions 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:52.800 about how you're going to spend your time. 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.120 Very very smart. Now, this is the one, the tip 0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.600 that I sort of resonated, you know, because of that 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:00.880 story I just told, but says, don't pressure yourself to 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:04.160 stay offline for a multi week vacation. And my wife 0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:05.760 and I were talking about this. She said, yeah, when 0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:07.760 my dad, you know, when we would go on vacation 0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:09.360 as a kid, my dad and mom would spend one 0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:11.920 hour each morning on their computers doing work and then 0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:14.120 that was it. So what is your advice when it 0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:17.280 comes to sort of that balance when you know you 0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:18.920 do have a job, you do have emails that are 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:19.360 coming in. 0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:22.920 Yeah, I mean, and I think your your story is 0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:27.240 really relatable. And you know, I personally do not find 0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:30.800 it relaxing to turn my phone off for a week 0:59:30.920 --> 0:59:33.240 because I'm worried about what I'm missing. Now, if you 0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:35.720 have the luxury of an assistant, or if you have 0:59:35.800 --> 0:59:39.480 somebody you can deputize in your absence and who you're 0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:43.240 comfortable giving full access to your email. Then you know, honestly, 0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:46.480 the best of those worlds is create a vacation specific 0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:50.280 secret email address you only give to your assistant, and 0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:54.320 set up your primary email to go to your assistant 0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:57.480 so that they look at anything that's coming in and 0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:00.800 they only show you the stuff that you know, like 1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.520 your your freelance gig, you know, only show you the 1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:06.520 stuff that's really important. If you don't have an assistant, 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:08.280 you can kind of do the same thing with a 1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:10.920 second mailbox and some mail rules. So for example, when 1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:13.440 I went on vacation last summer, I set up a 1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:16.320 rule that said, if I get a speaking invitation, forward 1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:19.080 that to my vacation inbox, but don't forward anything else. 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:22.760 And so you know, you can find a way of 1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:25.480 triaging so that only the stuff that you would really 1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:27.560 be sorry to miss hits your inbox. But if you're 1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:30.560 going to worry about it, it's better to make a 1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:32.640 half an hour an hour in the morning or in 1:00:32.640 --> 1:00:35.080 the evening so that you know you're going to look 1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:38.560 every day. And then the trick is to pick that 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:40.720 for a time when you really will be able to 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.920 close your computer afterwards and either like go off and 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:45.800 have a great day or go to sleep. If you 1:00:45.960 --> 1:00:47.920 know that once you look and you see that that 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:50.560 client is upset about something, you're gonna frint all day. 1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:53.840 That's that's not a recipe for a great vacation. 1:00:54.440 --> 1:00:57.800 Okay. Your next tip, by the way, my guest right 1:00:57.800 --> 1:01:00.320 now is Alexander Samuel. She is the author are of 1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:03.680 Remote ink Cata Thrive at work wherever you are. And 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:06.640 your next tip is don't read business books on vacation. 1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:08.880 So get your book, but don't read it on your 1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:11.320 trip to the tropics. 1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:12.240 Yeah. 1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:15.480 I mean, I'm always amazed when when you go on 1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:17.520 a vacation. You know, we were in Hawaii in the 1:01:17.520 --> 1:01:19.800 summer and you know, somebody's floating in the pool reading. 1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:21.960 I forget what this has looked, but I'm thinking, how 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:24.680 is that relaxing? And mean, I guess everybody has their jam, 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:28.720 but you know, you really, if you're taking a vacation 1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:32.080 to recharge, you actually need to give yourself the space 1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:35.120 to unwind. And I can even make a business case 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:37.440 for that, right, which is part of the value of 1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:39.680 you know, there's the reason so many of us get 1:01:39.720 --> 1:01:42.080 our burst inspiration in the shower, right, It's like when 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:45.760 you take your attention off of a focused task and 1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:48.480 you give yourself the space to kind of freewheel a bit, 1:01:48.560 --> 1:01:51.960 that's when inspiration strikes. And vacation is kind of like 1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:55.320 that in overdrive. You need to let your brain unwind 1:01:55.400 --> 1:01:59.240 and reset so that you have the opportunity to, you know, 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:01.280 come back to your work with a fresh perspective. And 1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:04.360 if you don't really turn your work brain off the 1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:06.720 whole time you're on vacation, you don't get that reboot. 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:11.120 Yeah, I totally agree with that. And it's so interesting 1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:16.440 about how and when creativity sort of or inspiration hits. 1:02:16.480 --> 1:02:19.520 It is always at the time when you are fully 1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:22.880 not thinking about coming up with an idea or coming 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:24.920 up with a solution to something, and it just pops 1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:27.360 into your head. That's not we're not new saying that, 1:02:27.640 --> 1:02:29.880 but it's just so fascinating because now doing a weekly 1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:32.200 radio show, I do this thing in the beginning of 1:02:32.240 --> 1:02:34.080 the show where I kind of talk about something. If 1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:35.680 I want to think about what I want to talk about, 1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:37.600 it never comes to me, But all of a sudden, 1:02:37.960 --> 1:02:39.320 in the middle of the night, it's like, oh, it 1:02:39.480 --> 1:02:41.360 just came to me because my brain is just like 1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:43.960 it gives it that downtime to sort of process stuff 1:02:43.960 --> 1:02:45.680 in the background. I guess that's the way I see it. 1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:48.320 You know, it's funny you say that, because I that's 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:50.440 always been my experience. And I will say, this is 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:53.000 one of the things where the amount of time I'm 1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:55.880 now spending, you know, working with AI is really starting 1:02:55.880 --> 1:03:00.480 to shift my thinking process because I now often use 1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:03.000 chat GBT, you know, which is the sort of you know, 1:03:03.200 --> 1:03:09.600 really shockingly human like chat interface as a brainstorming partner, 1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:14.040 and I can riff with that and it will shape 1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:16.040 things loose in a way that I would not be 1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:17.880 able to get to on my own without you know, 1:03:17.920 --> 1:03:19.120 stepping away from the computer. 1:03:19.320 --> 1:03:21.280 Oh I love that idea. I mean, we talked about 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:23.600 AI on this show so much now because by the way, 1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:26.800 you know, it's consumed the entire tech world. Yes, but 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:29.640 for a reason. It is so fascinating the stuff that 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:31.360 you can throw at it and just the stuff that 1:03:31.400 --> 1:03:33.720 comes back with you're like wow, like I you know, 1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:36.640 you we don't even know that there's no instruction book 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:40.000 for chat GPT, and yet we're finding so many uses 1:03:40.040 --> 1:03:43.680 for it, and Google Bard and Microsoft's being AI is 1:03:43.760 --> 1:03:47.080 really phenomenal. Okay, this one in your article in the 1:03:47.080 --> 1:03:49.880 Wall Street Journal the see the dos and don'ts of 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:53.600 combining work and play when traveling, you say, don't broadcast 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:55.960 your travels on social media. Now, this is kind of 1:03:56.040 --> 1:03:59.040 like now you're getting into like hold on now, because 1:03:59.040 --> 1:04:02.080 people really might offense to that one well. 1:04:02.120 --> 1:04:05.000 And it's funny because, of course, so many people use 1:04:05.040 --> 1:04:07.680 social media to kind of show off their travels and 1:04:07.720 --> 1:04:10.520 share their travels, and I love that. I mean, you know, 1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:14.360 I often will compile a photo book after a family 1:04:14.440 --> 1:04:16.959 vacation just off of what we've posted on social media. 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:19.240 It's a it's a great way of remembering what you've done. 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:22.320 But you know, there's a couple of problems with that. 1:04:22.400 --> 1:04:24.920 One is that, you know, when I've done a couple 1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:27.680 of pieces now around social media and be including a 1:04:27.720 --> 1:04:29.960 pretty big survey, and it's very clear that all those 1:04:30.000 --> 1:04:32.240 travel photos may make you feel pretty special, but they 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:35.640 can make other people feel pretty lousy. And you know, 1:04:35.680 --> 1:04:37.720 that's just it's just tough, right when you're sitting grinding 1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:39.360 away at your desk to see your friend on the beach. 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:41.960 Let's be honest, most people are bragging when they're pressing. 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:42.600 Yeah. 1:04:42.960 --> 1:04:45.720 Yeah. But but the other thing about it that I 1:04:45.760 --> 1:04:49.919 think is tricky when you're combining work and personal time 1:04:50.040 --> 1:04:51.400 is you know, if you're on a three day or 1:04:51.400 --> 1:04:53.880 a four day business trip and you've got you know, 1:04:54.000 --> 1:04:56.280 one day to yourself, maybe you're not even a day, 1:04:56.320 --> 1:04:59.520 maybe you've got a couple of evenings free. You know, 1:04:59.560 --> 1:05:01.680 if you you are in a city where you know 1:05:01.720 --> 1:05:04.240 a lot of people and you've posted about being there, 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:06.360 those folks are going to be insulted if you didn't 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:10.520 make time for them. And that I think is, you know, 1:05:10.520 --> 1:05:13.280 it's one of those situations where it's just better to 1:05:13.360 --> 1:05:18.120 be on a quieter mode and not hurt people's feelings. 1:05:18.200 --> 1:05:21.160 And you know, unless there's a specific reason that you 1:05:21.240 --> 1:05:23.520 need to share that you're there, Like maybe you know 1:05:23.640 --> 1:05:25.760 my case, I'm often in town to give a talk, 1:05:25.800 --> 1:05:27.960 and part of my responsibilities as a speaker is to 1:05:27.960 --> 1:05:31.880 publicize the event that I'm at. But unless you have 1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:34.880 a specific reason that you need to share your whereabouts, 1:05:34.960 --> 1:05:37.360 then all you're really doing is essentially sending your friends 1:05:37.400 --> 1:05:39.640 a message saying, you know, hey, I was in town, 1:05:39.680 --> 1:05:40.480 but I didn't care. 1:05:40.400 --> 1:05:40.960 Enough to call. 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:45.680 Oh gosh, that happens whenever I post being in any city, 1:05:45.680 --> 1:05:48.360 I get, you know, immediately the pings, Hey you're here, 1:05:48.440 --> 1:05:50.800 you're here, let's hang out. And of course, you know, 1:05:50.880 --> 1:05:52.920 sometimes you're on business you don't really have the time, 1:05:53.080 --> 1:05:56.120 and you know, I get it, but very very tricky. 1:05:56.160 --> 1:05:58.760 Social media has added a new element of trickiness to 1:05:58.800 --> 1:06:01.480 our lives. Samuel, we're going to leave it there. Thank 1:06:01.480 --> 1:06:02.720 you so much for joining me today. 1:06:03.160 --> 1:06:04.280 Thank you for inviting me. 1:06:04.320 --> 1:06:06.040 All right, appreciate it. We're going to put your book 1:06:06.240 --> 1:06:09.120 on my website. Rich on Tech dot TV if you 1:06:09.160 --> 1:06:10.960 want to read more about the dos and don'ts of 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:14.840 combining work and play when traveling. You're listening to Rich 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:16.880 on Tech, give you a call Triple eight rich one 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:19.440 O one eighty eight seven four to two, four to 1:06:19.480 --> 1:06:22.560 one zero one. More rich on Tech coming up right 1:06:22.600 --> 1:06:28.080 after this. Welcome back to Rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro 1:06:28.200 --> 1:06:31.880 here talking technology at Triple eight Rich one on one 1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:34.720 eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one 1:06:35.040 --> 1:06:38.880 zero one. Marie is in Hysperia, California. Marie, you're on 1:06:38.920 --> 1:06:39.680 with Rich. 1:06:41.680 --> 1:06:43.080 Hi, Rich, Thank you. 1:06:43.680 --> 1:06:45.160 Thank you. What's on your mind? 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:49.960 Well, I was listening to Tim Conway the other day, 1:06:50.200 --> 1:06:53.640 and he said that he heard that one should not 1:06:53.800 --> 1:06:58.920 bad mouth AI, and that it could be more deadly 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:04.640 and destruct the nuclear warfare, and that in three seconds 1:07:04.640 --> 1:07:07.400 they can they could shut down all of your utilities, 1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:11.760 use your wife's voice or someone's voice to call the 1:07:11.800 --> 1:07:15.360 police saying that you are threatening with weapons. The cops 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:18.160 can come and shoot you. Could you talk about that? 1:07:18.600 --> 1:07:20.440 Wow, he paints a dark picture. 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:23.040 It may really freaked me out. 1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:27.600 Well, look, I think I think that there's a lot 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:31.200 of thought about AI and the good and the bad 1:07:31.240 --> 1:07:35.520 of AI. So we're not there just yet to exactly 1:07:35.560 --> 1:07:38.800 what he's talking about. But I think that there are 1:07:39.000 --> 1:07:40.800 a lot of things we need to be concerned about 1:07:40.800 --> 1:07:44.880 with AI. And I talk a lot about the benefits 1:07:44.920 --> 1:07:47.960 of AI, but there are many many potential dangers of AI, 1:07:48.840 --> 1:07:50.520 And to get an answer, I think it's best to 1:07:50.600 --> 1:07:55.600 ask AI what is the dangers of it? And so 1:07:56.880 --> 1:08:00.919 I've got access to Google, Bard and chat EPT and 1:08:01.320 --> 1:08:04.360 let's just talk about some of these dangers associated with AI. 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:09.920 Job loss. Yeah, we're going to see jobs replaced by AI. 1:08:10.280 --> 1:08:13.920 Now in the beginning, it's going to be portions of 1:08:14.080 --> 1:08:17.800 jobs that are replaced by AI. For now, it's going 1:08:17.840 --> 1:08:19.599 to be up to fifty percent of job. You know, 1:08:19.680 --> 1:08:22.040 a fifty percent of someone's job is going to be 1:08:22.080 --> 1:08:25.559 replaced by AI, and then eventually there will be entire 1:08:25.680 --> 1:08:29.080 jobs replaced by AI. I'm very confident of that because 1:08:29.640 --> 1:08:31.920 there is so much that AI can do right now 1:08:32.479 --> 1:08:36.120 that when it gets better and built into more things, 1:08:36.160 --> 1:08:38.960 it's going to be incredible. And one of those things 1:08:39.000 --> 1:08:40.559 right now, when you just think of something as simple 1:08:40.600 --> 1:08:44.320 as a phone tree, when you call a company, it's horrific. 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:46.360 When you're trying to say when they say, you know, 1:08:47.439 --> 1:08:49.280 tell me a little bit about why you're calling. It 1:08:49.320 --> 1:08:52.360 never works right, It's horrible. But when AI gets involved, 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:54.439 it's going to be a lot better. Ordering at a 1:08:54.439 --> 1:08:57.880 fast food restaurant, I mean, when it can understand exactly 1:08:57.920 --> 1:09:00.320 what you're saying and ask to follow up question if 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:03.800 you want a medium large cheese on that whatever, that's 1:09:03.840 --> 1:09:06.000 going to be a potential. So it's going to start 1:09:06.040 --> 1:09:09.920 with not just basic jobs, but also higher end jobs 1:09:09.960 --> 1:09:12.200 as well, jobs that are creative. Give me a first 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:15.160 draft of this, give me a slideshow presentation. I mean, 1:09:15.240 --> 1:09:18.599 all that stuff can be taken over by AI. Another 1:09:18.680 --> 1:09:23.320 dangerous discrimination because AI systems are trained on data that 1:09:23.400 --> 1:09:28.160 humans create, and humans are discriminatory, and it may not 1:09:28.280 --> 1:09:32.040 be something that we think about, but it's there. We 1:09:32.080 --> 1:09:35.439 all bring our own biases to every situation we're in, 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:39.240 whether we like that or not, it's there. It's programmed 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:43.320 into our brains. And so these systems, because they're trained 1:09:43.360 --> 1:09:46.800 by humans, will have some of those same biases and 1:09:46.840 --> 1:09:51.120 discriminations built into them, and they will learn from this. 1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:55.120 But they are also programmed by us, by humans, and 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:57.160 so that will take some time to get through. But 1:09:57.240 --> 1:10:01.080 these things will have a certain level of discriminate. Now 1:10:01.160 --> 1:10:04.200 that may not be the types of discrimination that you're 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:07.320 thinking about. It could be discrimination of data, it could 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:11.160 be of places, of things we just don't know. But 1:10:11.280 --> 1:10:15.080 they will not be perfect systems. Let's put it that way. Privacy, 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:17.320 and this is all according to Google Bard by the 1:10:17.360 --> 1:10:22.960 way AI systems can collect so much information about people now. Already, 1:10:23.000 --> 1:10:25.960 marketing companies love all of the data that they collect 1:10:26.000 --> 1:10:28.400 on us, but imagine when they put AI into the mix, 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:31.519 and AI can slice and dice that data in ways 1:10:31.520 --> 1:10:34.920 that we have never seen possible before. It is going 1:10:35.000 --> 1:10:39.400 to be really incredible for privacy. It's going to be 1:10:39.439 --> 1:10:41.559 a problem let's put it that way. So right now, 1:10:41.600 --> 1:10:43.720 let's say on your phone, if you go into like 1:10:43.760 --> 1:10:46.080 the deep deep settings, it can show all the places 1:10:46.080 --> 1:10:48.960 that you frequent. That's very basic. It's not even using 1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:51.760 AI for that, it's just using kind of data analysis. 1:10:52.080 --> 1:10:56.200 But when AI can kind of mix different types of data. 1:10:56.520 --> 1:10:58.200 Oh okay, Well, this is a gym he goes to, 1:10:58.320 --> 1:11:00.880 and this is the workplace he goes, and this is 1:11:00.920 --> 1:11:03.160 the fast food place he goes to the most. And 1:11:03.240 --> 1:11:05.120 this is the restaurant he likes, and this is the 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:08.800 home that he visits the most beside his own. Those 1:11:08.840 --> 1:11:11.840 are all potential privacy concerns, especially when these systems are 1:11:11.880 --> 1:11:16.400 so simple to plug this information into safety. Now, this 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:20.680 is something that Marie you're kind of getting to, is 1:11:20.760 --> 1:11:24.920 these weapons and not just weapons but systems. So right now, 1:11:24.920 --> 1:11:27.680 we all have these smart speakers in our homes that 1:11:27.720 --> 1:11:30.600 are always listening. What if they're programmed to listen for 1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:34.720 potential conflict, for potential fights in our homes, for potential 1:11:34.840 --> 1:11:38.080 problems in our homes, for people getting really irritated. What 1:11:38.120 --> 1:11:41.160 if they're programmed to know how we're feeling. Oh, Rich 1:11:41.280 --> 1:11:43.439 is really getting on edge here. We better get the 1:11:43.479 --> 1:11:46.760 police on guard here, or actually, in fact, maybe it's 1:11:46.800 --> 1:11:50.400 not even police. Maybe it's police robots. Let's send a 1:11:50.439 --> 1:11:52.960 fleet of police drones to his house just to make 1:11:53.000 --> 1:11:56.559 sure everything's okay. Or let's send a video camera to us. 1:11:56.680 --> 1:11:59.679 I mean, these are all things that it sounds unreal, 1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:02.280 but we don't know. Now when it comes to war, 1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:07.400 of course, they're already we're using autonomous weapons. Now maybe 1:12:07.439 --> 1:12:10.639 those weapons are still controlled by someone, but they're still 1:12:11.200 --> 1:12:14.320 flying by themselves and flying into places that we can't 1:12:14.320 --> 1:12:18.519 typically fly into. But there's someone controlling it. Imagine when 1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:21.599 they're not controlled by anyone and they're making their own 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:26.920 decisions and they are potentially killing people. I mean, this 1:12:27.120 --> 1:12:30.320 is just stuff that we don't really want to think 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:33.120 about this, but it's going to happen. And even Google 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:35.280 says this could lead to a new arms race between 1:12:35.320 --> 1:12:39.800 countries and make war even more deadly. Now we've seen 1:12:39.840 --> 1:12:43.080 that wars become in some ways more precise, you know, 1:12:43.120 --> 1:12:46.400 these targets that we lock onto with these systems, But 1:12:46.560 --> 1:12:49.320 it can also be the opposite. It can also be 1:12:49.400 --> 1:12:52.839 much more deadly with systems. I mean, imagine a swarm 1:12:53.040 --> 1:12:58.240 of tiny insects that someone has programmed to release mass destruction. 1:12:59.520 --> 1:13:02.559 I mean, again, it sounds unreal, but it could be. 1:13:03.640 --> 1:13:06.160 How about the loss of control as these systems become 1:13:06.160 --> 1:13:10.000 more powerful, more powerful and learn from each other. Now 1:13:10.000 --> 1:13:11.960 they start teaching each other how to do things that 1:13:12.000 --> 1:13:14.799 we didn't teach them to do. And now they become 1:13:15.760 --> 1:13:18.439 you know, obviously we've seen this in the movies over 1:13:18.479 --> 1:13:22.720 and over, these systems turn against us. Hopefully that does 1:13:22.760 --> 1:13:26.439 not happen, but we don't know because we've never had 1:13:26.479 --> 1:13:30.640 such systems before. So maybe these systems become unpredictable, they 1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:37.240 become dangerous. There's so many potentially dangerous aspects of AI 1:13:37.320 --> 1:13:41.040 that we're not even privy to think about right now. 1:13:41.120 --> 1:13:43.960 And by the way, all these systems that Google and 1:13:44.040 --> 1:13:46.320 chat gptr are coming up with, they've built so many 1:13:46.400 --> 1:13:49.920 guardrails into those systems. Imagine that these systems get into 1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:53.360 the hands of the wrong people that don't want those guardrails, 1:13:53.360 --> 1:13:56.519 that want them to do bad things like infect our 1:13:56.520 --> 1:13:59.120 phones with malware, or take all of our data and 1:13:59.200 --> 1:14:02.240 figure out our secrets from it, or take our browsing 1:14:02.320 --> 1:14:04.760 data or our computer data, or get in there and 1:14:04.880 --> 1:14:08.439 change things on our systems, or try to hack us. 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:13.280 There are so many implications of this technology. Again, I 1:14:13.360 --> 1:14:15.680 talk about the good stuff, and I do want to 1:14:15.720 --> 1:14:17.760 get an expert on this show to talk about some 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:19.639 of the dangers that we are going to face with AI. 1:14:19.760 --> 1:14:24.439 Because this stuff is just at the beginning. You're listening 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:26.680 to Rich on Tech. We've got another hour of the 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:29.439 show to talk about all kinds of technology. Give me 1:14:29.439 --> 1:14:31.559 a call Triple eight rich one O one. That's eight 1:14:31.600 --> 1:14:34.439 eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 1:14:34.840 --> 1:14:37.519 You're listening to rich on Tech. I'm Rich Dmuro. More 1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:43.920 after this, Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro 1:14:44.040 --> 1:14:49.160 here hanging out talking technology at triple eight rich one 1:14:49.200 --> 1:14:52.040 oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two 1:14:52.560 --> 1:14:56.240 four one zero one. Did you know you can listen 1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:58.720 to this show as a podcast. Be sure to subscribe. 1:14:58.800 --> 1:15:01.240 Just go to rich on tech dot tv click the 1:15:01.280 --> 1:15:05.320 podcast icon. Plus, there are show notes and everything I 1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:07.880 mentioned I've got linked up there. So I've been doing 1:15:07.920 --> 1:15:10.120 a really good job of keeping notes about what I 1:15:10.160 --> 1:15:13.240 talk about because I understand that you're not sitting there 1:15:13.240 --> 1:15:16.080 with the pen and paper, pencil and paper. You know, 1:15:16.200 --> 1:15:18.679 you're busy, You're on the move. And if I mentioned 1:15:18.680 --> 1:15:19.960 something I'll put it in the show notes so you 1:15:19.960 --> 1:15:22.720 can always see that later. Let's go to Deborah in 1:15:23.040 --> 1:15:27.320 Santa Clarita. Debra, you're on with Rich Him Rich. 1:15:27.360 --> 1:15:29.760 It's a pleasure to talk with you. I watch you 1:15:29.840 --> 1:15:31.400 on kg LA every day. 1:15:31.600 --> 1:15:33.840 Oh well, thank you for doing that, and thanks for 1:15:33.880 --> 1:15:35.559 calling in. How are you today? 1:15:36.840 --> 1:15:37.960 I'm great? How are you? 1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:41.760 Oh fantastic? But what can I help you with? 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:47.240 Well, I'm on a fixed income and I'd like to 1:15:47.280 --> 1:15:51.240 lower my cable bill, so I'd like to look into services, 1:15:51.840 --> 1:15:55.519 streaming services that would provide me with the same kind 1:15:55.520 --> 1:16:02.120 of the same that I'm getting through cable. I don't 1:16:02.160 --> 1:16:06.080 have any premium channels like Showtime or HBO. I do 1:16:06.200 --> 1:16:10.760 have Netflix, and that's all. But I'd like to eliminate 1:16:10.880 --> 1:16:12.120 cable altogether. 1:16:12.680 --> 1:16:16.840 Okay, And you have questions, Well, I guess my first 1:16:16.920 --> 1:16:19.880 question is what what do you watch? 1:16:22.320 --> 1:16:27.160 I watch regular TV like, I like Channel five. I 1:16:27.200 --> 1:16:29.280 watch Channel seven every once in a while. 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:31.760 I won't hold that against. 1:16:35.040 --> 1:16:39.720 And the Learning Channel, and I like National Geographic. 1:16:40.000 --> 1:16:46.559 Okay, so bravo Learning Channel, National Geographic. So I guess 1:16:46.840 --> 1:16:50.280 the main thing is that if you're looking to, you know, 1:16:50.360 --> 1:16:52.920 to spend less on cable, which I understand how much 1:16:52.960 --> 1:16:53.360 you pay. 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:58.240 Right now, two hundred and fifteen dollars, but that includes internet. 1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:01.280 Okay, so that's a lot. And here's the thing, so 1:17:01.720 --> 1:17:04.160 you can definitely cut that down to just your Internet 1:17:04.240 --> 1:17:08.200 and still get a lot of this stuff. The thing is, 1:17:08.280 --> 1:17:10.880 unless you're willing to pay for some of these services 1:17:10.920 --> 1:17:14.320 on their own, then it's going to be tricky. So 1:17:14.600 --> 1:17:17.559 you said Bravo, you said National Geographic and what was 1:17:17.560 --> 1:17:18.360 the second one. 1:17:20.680 --> 1:17:21.000 Channel? 1:17:21.120 --> 1:17:25.919 Learning channel? Okay, learning? So that's TLC, right, learning channel. Okay, 1:17:26.280 --> 1:17:28.559 So I didn't I didn't hear a lot of sports, 1:17:28.600 --> 1:17:30.680 which is a good thing because sports is where it 1:17:30.680 --> 1:17:33.719 gets really expensive. That's where you're going to pay the premium, 1:17:33.720 --> 1:17:35.559 and that's where cable comes into play, and that's where 1:17:35.560 --> 1:17:37.400 a lot of these streaming services that are like a 1:17:37.479 --> 1:17:41.000 YouTube TV come into play. So for the local stuff, 1:17:41.120 --> 1:17:44.360 the good news is that KTLA has a free app 1:17:44.360 --> 1:17:46.639 that will get you that local channel, so that's nice. 1:17:47.280 --> 1:17:50.480 ABC I believe you can get some of their programming, 1:17:50.880 --> 1:17:53.920 including their newscasts and things like through their app, so 1:17:54.040 --> 1:17:57.840 that might work. The other thing is that there are 1:17:57.920 --> 1:18:03.040 some really inexpensive service that give you some of these channels, 1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:07.760 and there's a service called Friendly TV, which is have 1:18:07.840 --> 1:18:10.000 you heard of that one? 1:18:10.280 --> 1:18:10.360 No? 1:18:10.520 --> 1:18:14.360 I haven't, Okay, So that's a really inexpensive TV service 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:16.760 that's like seven dollars a month with that gives you 1:18:16.800 --> 1:18:20.400 forty channels. And so some of those channels include A 1:18:20.520 --> 1:18:26.200 and E, Hallmark Channel, History, Lifetime, let's see what else, 1:18:26.280 --> 1:18:29.720 Weather Channel, FYI. I'm trying to see if some of 1:18:29.760 --> 1:18:32.400 the channels you mentioned around their Bravo I know is NBC, 1:18:32.520 --> 1:18:34.240 so that one might be a little tricky to get. 1:18:35.240 --> 1:18:39.000 Let's see National Geographic. So the other thing you can 1:18:39.000 --> 1:18:43.320 look into is, I know, Discovery has Discovery Plus, which 1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:45.920 will give you a whole bunch of channels with a 1:18:45.920 --> 1:18:48.200 lot of stuff, and that's not too expensive either. That's 1:18:48.479 --> 1:18:51.120 planned starting at five dollars a month, and that gives 1:18:51.120 --> 1:18:54.439 you a whole bunch of channels including HGTV, Food Network, 1:18:54.520 --> 1:18:58.840 TLC is on there. That's one that you mentioned. Let's 1:18:58.880 --> 1:19:01.439 see National Geographic that is not on there. They may 1:19:01.479 --> 1:19:04.360 have their own, but the bottom line is that, look, 1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:07.519 you can get this bill way down I would say, 1:19:07.600 --> 1:19:10.360 under one hundred dollars a month. So don't forget when 1:19:10.360 --> 1:19:13.320 you when you sort of take out that bundle. They're 1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:15.639 going to probably try to charge you more for your internet. 1:19:15.680 --> 1:19:17.200 Do you know how much you're paying for your internet 1:19:17.280 --> 1:19:23.680 right now for okay, So, and that's through Spectrum guessing. 1:19:25.000 --> 1:19:27.639 No, that's through ATT verse. 1:19:27.760 --> 1:19:30.720 Okay, it's through Uverse. Oh interesting, So you verse through 1:19:30.760 --> 1:19:33.400 AT and T is something that they're really not promoting anymore, 1:19:33.439 --> 1:19:36.400 so you may have to They may try to get 1:19:36.479 --> 1:19:38.200 you to go to like AT and T Fiber or 1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:40.880 something like that. But okay, so a couple of things. 1:19:40.920 --> 1:19:43.760 These are my recommendations. Okay, So first off, I would 1:19:43.840 --> 1:19:46.600 say what I would do is look into all of 1:19:46.640 --> 1:19:49.559 your options. Take a fresh look at your options for internet. 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:52.639 So where you live in Santa Clarita, there may be 1:19:52.760 --> 1:19:55.000 a company that does internet that's not AT and T. 1:19:55.520 --> 1:19:58.240 So I would look at a website called whistle out 1:19:58.960 --> 1:20:01.320 and you can type in your zip code and it 1:20:01.360 --> 1:20:04.280 will tell you the internet plans in your area. So 1:20:04.320 --> 1:20:05.920 you can put in your street address and that will 1:20:05.920 --> 1:20:09.479 look at things like Verizon, AT and T Spectrum and 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:13.800 also companies like T Mobile and Verizon now have wireless 1:20:13.840 --> 1:20:16.519 internet that's served over five G and so you can 1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:19.519 look into that. And right now, those providers are giving 1:20:19.560 --> 1:20:22.160 a really good deal, like t Mobiles fifty bucks a month. 1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:25.040 Verizon I think is as low as twenty five dollars 1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:28.400 a month, depending on who you have for your wireless carrier. 1:20:28.439 --> 1:20:30.800 But I would look into those, and then i'd also 1:20:30.840 --> 1:20:33.200 look into the cable company in your area that offers 1:20:33.240 --> 1:20:35.680 Internet and see if they're cheaper, because now that you're 1:20:35.720 --> 1:20:38.760 getting Internet by itself, they may try to charge you 1:20:38.760 --> 1:20:41.760 a little bit more. I'd look into getting a streaming stick, 1:20:41.840 --> 1:20:44.759 so I'd probably recommend either a Roku or an Amazon 1:20:44.840 --> 1:20:46.800 streaming stick, and then I would start to layer on 1:20:46.840 --> 1:20:51.120 these services you mentioned. You already have Netflix. Netflix has 1:20:51.200 --> 1:20:54.760 an ad supported plan, so you may want to downgrade 1:20:54.840 --> 1:20:56.880 to that plan, which is six ninety nine a month, 1:20:56.920 --> 1:20:59.040 and that's going to have ads. And if you're really 1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:00.960 trying to save money, think that you're gonna have to 1:21:01.000 --> 1:21:04.519 start watching ads on some of these services. Free ads 1:21:04.520 --> 1:21:09.080 supporting streaming services, it's called they call them fast free 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:14.400 ad supported streaming television services. That's the fastest growing streaming 1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:18.200 services out there right now. Why because everything has gone 1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:21.160 up in price lately, and so people are very cost 1:21:21.240 --> 1:21:23.960 conscious right now. So if you can get free streaming TV. 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:26.719 Why would you not. And we're used to ads on TV, 1:21:26.840 --> 1:21:28.840 so it's not that big of a leap to say, 1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:30.800 you know what, I'll watch these shows with a little 1:21:30.840 --> 1:21:32.960 bit of ads, and so I would look into those 1:21:33.000 --> 1:21:35.599 services as well. So Roku has what's called the Roku 1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:38.040 Channel with a whole bunch of free stuff on there 1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:41.719 that has ads. Two b TV they have a whole 1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:43.960 bunch of free stuff. They are owned by Fox, so 1:21:43.960 --> 1:21:45.679 they have a whole bunch of Fox shows on there 1:21:45.720 --> 1:21:49.639 as well. Pluto TV this is the one that started 1:21:49.680 --> 1:21:52.679 at all. They're owned by Paramount. They have a whole 1:21:52.680 --> 1:21:55.120 bunch of channels that you can watch completely free. One 1:21:55.160 --> 1:21:58.120 of my favorites is the Johnny Carson Channel. They have 1:21:58.160 --> 1:22:00.360 a channel that just literally shows Johnny cars and all 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:02.400 day long. And they have a whole bunch of channels 1:22:02.400 --> 1:22:04.439 like that. Monsters, all these things. Some of it's old, 1:22:04.439 --> 1:22:08.760 some of it's new. Amazon Free V they are owned 1:22:08.760 --> 1:22:10.760 by Amazon obviously, and they have a whole bunch of 1:22:10.800 --> 1:22:13.800 stuff on there that's free. Crackle used to be owned 1:22:13.800 --> 1:22:15.720 by Sony. I'm not sure they are anymore, but they 1:22:15.720 --> 1:22:19.720 have a whole bunch of free stuff, ad supported Zoomo Xumo. 1:22:20.280 --> 1:22:22.559 They're owned by Comcasts, so they have a whole bunch 1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:26.240 of that Comcast programming on there. And then Peacock they 1:22:26.280 --> 1:22:29.320 have I don't know if they're still offering the AD 1:22:29.360 --> 1:22:33.160 supported free version, but they have an AD supported plan 1:22:33.800 --> 1:22:35.800 that you may have to pay a little bit for. 1:22:35.880 --> 1:22:38.599 But they have a bunch of the NBC shows. Sling 1:22:38.720 --> 1:22:41.519 just started. THEIRS. Let me see what this is called. 1:22:41.600 --> 1:22:45.000 Sling is called free stream fr E E S T 1:22:45.160 --> 1:22:47.080 R E A M. They have a whole bunch of 1:22:47.080 --> 1:22:49.759 stuff on there for free. And let's see I'm missing 1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:53.160 any big ones. I think that's about it. There may 1:22:53.200 --> 1:22:55.840 be some others that I'm missing, but I'd look into that. 1:22:55.920 --> 1:22:58.519 And i'd also look into so the things that you mentioned, 1:22:58.600 --> 1:23:02.200 like National Geographic, I would see I would type that 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:05.759 in and type in streaming and see what their streaming 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:09.240 service is. So national Geographic, it looks like you'd have 1:23:09.280 --> 1:23:12.760 to get Hulu to get national geographic shows streaming on there. 1:23:13.120 --> 1:23:17.920 And Hulu has AD supported plans that are inexpensive as well. Bravo, 1:23:18.800 --> 1:23:21.760 let's see Bravo streaming. I'm not sure what they're going 1:23:21.800 --> 1:23:23.759 to be on. They are going to be on oh, Peacock, 1:23:23.960 --> 1:23:26.280 so you'd have to go with Peacock. So anyway, as 1:23:26.280 --> 1:23:28.320 you can see, it's kind of like a little puzzle. 1:23:28.760 --> 1:23:31.519 So Deborah, you can do this. You can definitely lower 1:23:31.560 --> 1:23:33.320 your plan. I think the main thing is getting that 1:23:33.360 --> 1:23:36.519 streaming stick, getting the Internet at a pretty good cost, 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:39.160 and then signing up for just a couple of these 1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:42.040 services that I think will give you the programming that 1:23:42.120 --> 1:23:45.799 you want. So good luck and thanks for watching on KTLA. 1:23:45.960 --> 1:23:48.320 I really appreciate it. And by the way, KTLA this 1:23:48.360 --> 1:23:53.240 week I should mention this. We are now on YouTube 1:23:53.280 --> 1:23:57.000 TV and also streaming on Hulu, so this was a 1:23:57.000 --> 1:23:59.599 big thing if you're in the LA area. A lot 1:23:59.640 --> 1:24:03.160 of people did not have access to KTLA streaming on 1:24:03.160 --> 1:24:06.840 one of these paid services like a YouTube TV or 1:24:06.920 --> 1:24:09.200 a Hulu, and now we are on there. So if 1:24:09.200 --> 1:24:12.559 you are a subscriber to Hulu or YouTube TV and 1:24:12.600 --> 1:24:16.040 you're paying for that streaming service, check it out. KTLA 1:24:16.200 --> 1:24:17.920 is now on there. You may have to go into 1:24:17.920 --> 1:24:20.679 your settings to find the channel. Onmine, it was hidden 1:24:20.720 --> 1:24:23.320 for some reason, but it's there, and so if you're 1:24:23.320 --> 1:24:25.479 paying for that, it's definitely a channel that you want 1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:28.400 to check out because of course I'm a little biased, 1:24:28.400 --> 1:24:29.960 but I think it's one of the better offerings. And 1:24:30.000 --> 1:24:33.040 of course with YouTube TV and even Hulu, they also 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:35.840 have the DVR functionality, So I personally would ask you 1:24:36.200 --> 1:24:40.120 to DVR my segment which airs at five am, seven AM, 1:24:40.240 --> 1:24:43.280 and nine am, So go ahead and set those DVRs 1:24:43.280 --> 1:24:45.680 for those segments. But again, if you're a subscriber, that's 1:24:45.680 --> 1:24:48.000 a pretty good thing, all right. Coming up next, we're 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:51.080 going to talk about Amazon's warning on some of it's 1:24:52.040 --> 1:24:55.599 frequently returned products, so we'll tell you about that. Plus 1:24:55.640 --> 1:24:57.320 I'm going to tell you the app that I used 1:24:57.760 --> 1:25:01.960 to trick everyone on my Instagram today to convert a 1:25:02.080 --> 1:25:05.080 car into something very different. I'll tell you about the 1:25:05.080 --> 1:25:08.120 AI scenes you can do on that and the AI car, 1:25:08.160 --> 1:25:10.439 so if you're into cars, it's kind of fun. And 1:25:10.479 --> 1:25:12.479 then coming up, we're going to talk to the founder 1:25:12.560 --> 1:25:15.360 of an app that will help you keep track of 1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:20.240 your flights during this spring break travel season. Plus, your 1:25:20.240 --> 1:25:21.840 call is a triple eight rich one on one eight 1:25:21.880 --> 1:25:24.280 eight seven four to two four to one zero one. 1:25:24.439 --> 1:25:29.720 You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 1:25:30.160 --> 1:25:36.280 rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out and Uh, 1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:41.600 producer Aaron doing great on the music today. Thank you 1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:47.360 really get me going today. Okay, So I'm going to 1:25:47.400 --> 1:25:49.640 tell you about a little trick I did on my 1:25:49.960 --> 1:25:54.679 Instagram followers at rich On Tech today. So, uh, I, 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:57.920 if you look at my stories, I said that I 1:25:57.960 --> 1:26:00.439 traded in my EV for something more prac to call 1:26:00.760 --> 1:26:03.160 and it's like an old school car that I had, 1:26:03.240 --> 1:26:06.080 or like a classic car. So I did this because 1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:08.360 of the whole debate about AI and also you know 1:26:08.400 --> 1:26:11.040 April Fools and all that stuff. But the reality is, 1:26:11.200 --> 1:26:12.720 I want to tell you about the app I use 1:26:12.840 --> 1:26:15.120 to create this because I've been playing with it and 1:26:15.160 --> 1:26:19.200 it's pretty phenomenal. It's called photo Leap, and it's one 1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:22.879 of these AI apps that just does a lot of stuff. 1:26:23.240 --> 1:26:25.080 And so they added a couple of new things that 1:26:25.080 --> 1:26:26.800 are that are really cool that I want to tell 1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:30.240 you about. So the first is called AI Scenes and 1:26:30.280 --> 1:26:32.280 this is on iOS and Android, and this lets you 1:26:32.360 --> 1:26:35.160 upload a photo of your house or a landmark or 1:26:35.200 --> 1:26:39.120 a street and it's converted into sort of a fun 1:26:39.120 --> 1:26:42.600 and creative image, like you know, you can do apocalyptic, 1:26:42.760 --> 1:26:45.639 you can do fantasy, you can do candy, you can 1:26:45.680 --> 1:26:48.920 do cartoon, so it's just kind of a fun little 1:26:48.920 --> 1:26:52.360 feature that is just shows off the power of AI. 1:26:52.520 --> 1:26:57.160 So it's transforming the entire scene into something completely different. 1:26:57.840 --> 1:27:01.120 So if you have a cool like picture that you've 1:27:01.160 --> 1:27:03.439 taken of a scene or something like you know that 1:27:03.479 --> 1:27:06.840 your street or any really anything that's you know, it 1:27:06.840 --> 1:27:09.720 works best with like scenery like a street. You can 1:27:09.720 --> 1:27:11.599 convert that into all kinds of stuff. And right now, 1:27:11.600 --> 1:27:13.840 I just took a picture I took an Arizona of 1:27:13.880 --> 1:27:17.360 some cactus and it's just it's just amazing. It like 1:27:17.479 --> 1:27:21.720 changed it into an abandoned area. They've got snowed in, 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:25.080 so you can see it transformed into a snowy So 1:27:25.200 --> 1:27:27.760 I'm in Arizona and it made it look like it's 1:27:27.760 --> 1:27:31.519 a snowed in area. It's it's just incredible what these 1:27:31.600 --> 1:27:35.400 AI apps can do. And again in such short time. 1:27:35.560 --> 1:27:37.360 This stuff has not been around that long and we're 1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:41.040 seeing these tools or just leapfrogging every couple of weeks 1:27:41.040 --> 1:27:42.439 into something much much more. 1:27:43.000 --> 1:27:43.160 Now. 1:27:43.200 --> 1:27:47.080 The feature that I used is called AI Cars and 1:27:47.120 --> 1:27:50.160 this is only available on the iOS version of the app. 1:27:50.640 --> 1:27:54.120 It's a very specific situation because you have to have 1:27:54.200 --> 1:27:55.960 a picture of you in front of a car or 1:27:56.479 --> 1:27:59.600 just any old car, and it will use AI to 1:27:59.720 --> 1:28:04.040 change that car into something else. So this uses analyze 1:28:04.120 --> 1:28:07.599 the photo, it recognizes the car and then enables you 1:28:07.640 --> 1:28:11.680 to activate a filter to change that car into several presets, 1:28:11.720 --> 1:28:15.519 which can be luxury. Hold on, I'm changing it right now, 1:28:15.560 --> 1:28:18.920 so I'm seeing it, says, preparing to pimp your ride. 1:28:19.200 --> 1:28:21.400 So I'm changing this car that I took a picture 1:28:21.439 --> 1:28:25.200 of into Oh wow, interesting, I think this looked too 1:28:25.280 --> 1:28:28.479 luxury because it didn't change it into anything. It's got 1:28:28.479 --> 1:28:34.360 off road, sport, electric, vintage, classic Americana icons, concept, and rusty, 1:28:34.880 --> 1:28:37.519 and if you don't like any of those, you can 1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:42.080 actually just type in to the AI engine. Oh interesting, 1:28:42.120 --> 1:28:44.559 it's not working on this car, so it doesn't like 1:28:44.640 --> 1:28:46.840 this car by itself. Apparently you have to be with 1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:49.240 the car, so if you have a picture of yourself 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:51.519 with the car, that works better. So if you want 1:28:51.560 --> 1:28:52.760 to see what I did with it, you can go 1:28:52.800 --> 1:28:55.400 to my Instagram at rich on Tech, click my stories 1:28:55.439 --> 1:28:58.640 and you can see how good this did of converting 1:28:59.160 --> 1:29:01.439 this car that I took a picture of. I did 1:29:01.479 --> 1:29:05.160 it first with the vintage car. Then I did kind 1:29:05.160 --> 1:29:08.120 of a RUSTI ol car. Then I did a futuristic 1:29:08.160 --> 1:29:12.320 sports car, then I did a classic car, then I 1:29:12.360 --> 1:29:14.960 did a truck, and I said, final, I'll help you 1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:18.080 move your couch because we have a truck. For some reason, 1:29:18.080 --> 1:29:21.960 you are the unofficial couch mover of all of your friends. Hey, 1:29:22.040 --> 1:29:24.280 can you come over and just just really quick. It's 1:29:24.280 --> 1:29:26.160 going to be super easy. It's always super easy to 1:29:26.200 --> 1:29:30.599 move someone's couch anyway. This is the first mobile consumer 1:29:30.680 --> 1:29:36.160 editing tool to combine stable diffusion, proprietary segmentation engines, which 1:29:36.160 --> 1:29:39.120 means it's actually separating that car from the rest of 1:29:39.160 --> 1:29:42.519 the image, and a new control net layer. And this 1:29:42.760 --> 1:29:46.320 was a new open source tech released by computer scientists 1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:51.320 at Stanford University. So it's combining three different AI generative 1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:55.280 art capabilities. And there's much more inside this app. You 1:29:55.280 --> 1:30:00.920 can do AI avatars, AI pets, AI couples, So there 1:30:01.000 --> 1:30:03.559 is a lot in this app. Now some of it 1:30:03.560 --> 1:30:07.800 does cost money because it's not free. There are some 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:10.160 features that are free. It also transformed you by the 1:30:10.160 --> 1:30:13.639 way that Dungeons and Dragons movie that's coming out. They 1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:16.880 can transform you into a Dungeons and Dragons character like 1:30:16.920 --> 1:30:19.479 those avatars. We saw a couple months ago. Now they 1:30:19.479 --> 1:30:21.960 can do those with dungeons and dragons. And I did 1:30:21.960 --> 1:30:24.479 this for myself, and I don't know much about dungeons 1:30:24.479 --> 1:30:28.240 and dragons, but it's I have those ears, you know, 1:30:28.360 --> 1:30:31.200 like those funny looking years, and then I just you know, 1:30:31.200 --> 1:30:33.280 it just looks like something out of who knows what 1:30:34.800 --> 1:30:36.360 It's fun though, all right, so let me tell you 1:30:36.400 --> 1:30:38.920 how much this costs. Some of this stuff is free. 1:30:40.120 --> 1:30:44.720 Let's see pricing, pricing, pricing, so free features. You can 1:30:44.760 --> 1:30:47.479 do the dungeons and dragons for free, basic use of 1:30:47.479 --> 1:30:51.080 the photo and animation features, some of the instant edits 1:30:51.120 --> 1:30:53.880 like changing the background, replacing the sky in fast filters, 1:30:54.160 --> 1:30:56.920 and then some of the latest AI tools, the AI scenes, 1:30:56.920 --> 1:30:59.880 the AI cars. That's all free to a certain limit. 1:31:00.000 --> 1:31:02.000 And then if you really want to get unlimited access 1:31:02.000 --> 1:31:04.479 to all this stuff and also no watermarks on the 1:31:04.479 --> 1:31:05.880 stuff that you make, you're gonna have to pay. It 1:31:05.960 --> 1:31:08.000 looks like it's six bucks a month or forty dollars 1:31:08.040 --> 1:31:11.720 a year, so yes, not cheap. But I got to 1:31:11.760 --> 1:31:13.640 say this photo leap app is probably one of the 1:31:13.640 --> 1:31:16.599 more impressive apps that I've seen, so at the very least, 1:31:16.640 --> 1:31:18.760 I would say download it and try it out, at 1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:20.880 least try some of the free features and see what's 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:24.000 happening with it, because it's it's pretty cool. Okay, moving on, 1:31:24.360 --> 1:31:27.400 let me tell you about Amazon. Starting on some product pages, 1:31:27.439 --> 1:31:30.960 you're going to see a warning that says frequently returned item. 1:31:31.479 --> 1:31:34.240 Check the product details and customer reviews to learn more 1:31:34.240 --> 1:31:37.679 about this item. Basically, Amazon is trying to make people 1:31:38.040 --> 1:31:41.080 a buy less stuff that they're going to return, and 1:31:41.120 --> 1:31:44.040 also put these people that are selling this stuff on 1:31:45.200 --> 1:31:47.400 a warning that says, hey, stop trying to sell people 1:31:47.439 --> 1:31:49.920 stuff that they're returning because it costs money for all 1:31:49.960 --> 1:31:53.400 of us. So they've made returns really easy, and Amazon 1:31:53.479 --> 1:31:56.640 is very generous with its return policy, but still it 1:31:56.680 --> 1:31:58.679 costs this company money. And when they're doing the volume 1:31:58.720 --> 1:32:01.960 that Amazon's doing, even if they can affect one percent 1:32:02.120 --> 1:32:05.920 of people returning stuff, that translates into big, big bucks 1:32:05.920 --> 1:32:09.519 for them saved. So again, you might see a warning. 1:32:09.800 --> 1:32:11.519 If you see that warning that says, hey, this has 1:32:11.560 --> 1:32:13.400 returned a lot, you may want to think twice about 1:32:13.439 --> 1:32:15.400 buying it. I know it's so easy to buy and 1:32:15.439 --> 1:32:17.479 return stuff on Amazon, but it does cost a lot 1:32:17.479 --> 1:32:19.920 of money to ship in all that stuff, all right, 1:32:19.960 --> 1:32:22.040 Coming up, we are going to talk about an app 1:32:22.080 --> 1:32:25.320 called Flighty. We're going to have the founder of this 1:32:25.400 --> 1:32:28.200 app that is probably the most beautiful flight tracking app 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:31.559 I've ever seen. I've used it many times, and we'll 1:32:31.560 --> 1:32:34.920 tell you all about how this came to be coming 1:32:35.040 --> 1:32:38.960 up next. Welcome back to rich on Tech. I'm extremely 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:42.599 excited for this next segment because I love travel, I 1:32:42.640 --> 1:32:46.120 love flying, and I love apps, So this kind of 1:32:46.160 --> 1:32:49.920 combines all of my loves into one thing. We're talking 1:32:49.920 --> 1:32:53.479 about an app called Flighty, and joining me now is 1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:57.200 Ryan Jones. He is the founder of the app. Ryan, 1:32:57.240 --> 1:32:58.559 thanks so much for joining me today. 1:32:59.439 --> 1:33:01.320 Absolutely, thanks for having me on rich All. 1:33:01.280 --> 1:33:03.960 Right, so you have built an app that so many 1:33:04.040 --> 1:33:07.559 people love. This Flighty app is basically, as you call it, 1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:12.040 pilot grade flight tracking for everyone. So first off, I 1:33:12.080 --> 1:33:14.639 just want to know tell me the story of why 1:33:14.720 --> 1:33:15.920 you came up with this app. 1:33:17.000 --> 1:33:17.280 Yeah. 1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:21.160 Absolutely, I was actually working on a previous app at 1:33:21.200 --> 1:33:23.920 the time and had just left Apple, and I was 1:33:24.000 --> 1:33:28.800 traveling with my ninety year old grandmother. We ended up 1:33:29.240 --> 1:33:33.160 sitting in the chilis at the Fort Lauderdale Airport for 1:33:33.200 --> 1:33:37.639 about three hours because a Jetboo plane was stuck in Chicago, 1:33:37.680 --> 1:33:40.920 which of course has nothing to do with Fort Lauderdale. 1:33:40.960 --> 1:33:44.080 But the thing that was frustrating me is I was 1:33:44.160 --> 1:33:47.559 nerdy enough and into kind of flying and apps enough 1:33:47.560 --> 1:33:51.000 that I knew all that data for me to know 1:33:51.120 --> 1:33:54.200 this ahead of time was available, and I was just 1:33:54.680 --> 1:33:57.479 not able to do all that research to see that 1:33:57.560 --> 1:34:00.600 my plane was stuck there because I was driving. And 1:34:00.680 --> 1:34:03.120 it was just so frustrating that I had known for 1:34:03.520 --> 1:34:05.920 years that this could be done and nobody was doing it. 1:34:05.960 --> 1:34:08.760 And that was the moment that I said, Okay, I'm 1:34:08.760 --> 1:34:10.720 just going to go for it. Let's build this thing. 1:34:11.640 --> 1:34:14.639 And so how many years ago was that? 1:34:14.640 --> 1:34:18.680 That was New Year's Day, January first, twenty eighteen, So 1:34:18.720 --> 1:34:20.000 we're about five years old. 1:34:20.040 --> 1:34:22.800 Wow, five years old? Okay. And so this app, it's 1:34:22.840 --> 1:34:26.200 called Flighty. It's available on iOS. It is a beautiful 1:34:26.240 --> 1:34:28.800 flight tracking app. There's many ways to track flights, but 1:34:28.880 --> 1:34:32.040 what this app does really well is not only import 1:34:32.040 --> 1:34:36.080 your information from your calendar, but it presents more information 1:34:36.120 --> 1:34:39.200 than you could ever imagine about your flight. So the 1:34:39.240 --> 1:34:45.400 gate departure, the timing, but also stuff like the arrival forecast, 1:34:45.479 --> 1:34:48.360 like the performance over the last sixty days where your 1:34:48.360 --> 1:34:51.240 plane is, so it not only shows you where your 1:34:51.280 --> 1:34:53.360 plane is, but all the cities that it's been to 1:34:53.439 --> 1:34:56.680 before yours, the type of plane, so it looks up 1:34:56.720 --> 1:34:59.639 the tail number and tells you, you know, the age 1:34:59.720 --> 1:35:02.240 of the plane when it first took its flight, the 1:35:02.400 --> 1:35:06.280 cruising speed, and then a detailed timeline and all kinds 1:35:06.280 --> 1:35:08.679 of stuff that Ryan. Do you think most people even 1:35:08.960 --> 1:35:11.320 realize any of this information is out there about their 1:35:11.320 --> 1:35:13.639 flight except the time when it's taking off and landing. 1:35:15.080 --> 1:35:16.840 Yeah, I don't think so. You know, most people are 1:35:16.920 --> 1:35:19.960 used to looking at the boards and the airport or 1:35:20.040 --> 1:35:23.120 just googling it. And you know, the crazy thing is 1:35:23.360 --> 1:35:25.400 all this is out there. You just have to do 1:35:25.439 --> 1:35:27.479 the legwork and the hard work of combining it all. 1:35:27.920 --> 1:35:30.559 And like you said, it all is. You know, we've 1:35:30.800 --> 1:35:34.240 spent a lot of time making the app super user friendly. 1:35:34.280 --> 1:35:37.799 We had one hundred pilots that used it and tested 1:35:37.840 --> 1:35:40.320 the accuracy and the usability for us before we even 1:35:40.360 --> 1:35:43.000 released it to everybody. So all that stuff is in there, 1:35:43.000 --> 1:35:46.519 and it's just in one clean view that's one full page. 1:35:46.560 --> 1:35:48.600 There's no you know, you don't have to navigate in 1:35:48.680 --> 1:35:51.639 and out and go find things. But the even better 1:35:51.680 --> 1:35:54.200 thing than that is, you know, we have I think 1:35:54.240 --> 1:35:57.400 it's up to seventy five different types of push alerts now, 1:35:57.760 --> 1:36:00.160 But if you don't even open the app, really, as 1:36:00.160 --> 1:36:02.840 long as you type in you know AA one oh one, 1:36:02.920 --> 1:36:05.320 so you've got American Airlines one oh one, we'll send 1:36:05.360 --> 1:36:07.200 you a push alert if there's something you need to know, 1:36:07.280 --> 1:36:09.200 you don't really have to even open the app. 1:36:09.800 --> 1:36:11.719 So what do you think are some of the best 1:36:11.800 --> 1:36:13.960 features of the app for the average user. 1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:17.680 Yeah, the one that we hear constantly is people being 1:36:17.720 --> 1:36:22.800 able to predict delays. So, like you mentioned, uh, where 1:36:22.840 --> 1:36:25.639 the plane is coming from is a thing that's really 1:36:25.800 --> 1:36:28.080 present in the UI, and that's actually the number one 1:36:28.600 --> 1:36:31.000 cause of delays if you look like kind of across 1:36:31.040 --> 1:36:35.719 the whole world. Number two is weather, and then number 1:36:35.760 --> 1:36:39.960 three is airspace problems. So airspace meaning like the air 1:36:40.000 --> 1:36:43.240 traffic control needs to space everybody out around Chicago because 1:36:43.240 --> 1:36:45.320 there's a storm or something like that. So we have 1:36:45.360 --> 1:36:48.320 alerts for all three of those things. So we covered, 1:36:48.360 --> 1:36:51.000 you know, the top three in terms of predicting delays, 1:36:51.040 --> 1:36:54.240 So you can be let's say, sitting at home thinking 1:36:54.280 --> 1:36:55.559 I got to go to the airport in two hours 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:57.920 and you'll get an alert that hey, your plane's in 1:36:58.000 --> 1:37:00.360 Chicago and it's not taken off for three hours. So 1:37:00.560 --> 1:37:03.320 being able to note ahead of time what's going to 1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:06.439 happen is kind of a huge stress reliever for people, 1:37:07.479 --> 1:37:09.760 even if you can't change your flight, but for a 1:37:09.760 --> 1:37:12.040 lot of our kind of pro flyers as we like 1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:14.960 to call them, they have ways to or they have 1:37:15.000 --> 1:37:16.799 you know, status on an airline, and they can actually 1:37:17.080 --> 1:37:19.880 change their flight. But even if you don't, just knowing 1:37:19.920 --> 1:37:22.400 in advance what's going to happen is a massive stress reliever. 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:25.040 Just there's so many unknowns and so many things that 1:37:25.120 --> 1:37:27.800 can go wrong with travel, but having a heads up 1:37:27.840 --> 1:37:30.320 and being forewarned is super powerful. 1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:33.519 One of my favorite features of this app is the 1:37:34.000 --> 1:37:37.639 flight log, and so when you first log into this app, 1:37:38.120 --> 1:37:42.160 it's getting the information from what your calendar basically, that's correct. 1:37:42.240 --> 1:37:46.000 Yeah, yeah, Some competitive apps will get it from your email, 1:37:46.080 --> 1:37:49.120 which requires you to give your email username and password, 1:37:49.160 --> 1:37:51.400 and we don't really like the privacy aspect of that, 1:37:51.560 --> 1:37:54.880 so we integrate with your calendar and we'll automatically pull 1:37:54.920 --> 1:37:58.200 in any flight that shows up in your calendar, and 1:37:58.200 --> 1:38:00.720 we do all that processing on your device. We never 1:38:00.760 --> 1:38:03.439 send anything to the cloud that's privacy focused, and you 1:38:03.439 --> 1:38:06.000 don't even have your username or a username with us, 1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:08.920 so you're just anonymous to us. Everything's super private. 1:38:09.200 --> 1:38:09.400 Yeah. 1:38:09.479 --> 1:38:12.120 Yeah, we'll pull in any flight that we find. We 1:38:12.200 --> 1:38:15.400 can do upwards of about five hundred in a minute, 1:38:15.439 --> 1:38:18.920 So you connect your calendar and we'll pull in five 1:38:19.000 --> 1:38:20.920 hundred a thousand, as many flights as you have and 1:38:21.000 --> 1:38:23.680 populate this flight log you're talking about for you automatically. 1:38:23.840 --> 1:38:24.040 Yeah. 1:38:24.080 --> 1:38:26.479 And so for travel nerds like myself, and I'm not 1:38:26.520 --> 1:38:28.639 like a real travel nerd. I'm like a basic travel 1:38:28.640 --> 1:38:30.519 nerd that travels a couple times a year. But I 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:32.840 know there's when I traveled a ton for my job. 1:38:32.880 --> 1:38:34.799 You know, there's people that are really into this stuff. 1:38:35.320 --> 1:38:37.599 I'm like semi there. But it has this kind of 1:38:37.640 --> 1:38:40.559 your passport. It's called the Flighty Passport, and it gives 1:38:40.560 --> 1:38:44.320 you your stats for not only all time, but every year. 1:38:44.360 --> 1:38:47.559 It's broken down that it can find information. So and 1:38:47.600 --> 1:38:50.120 by the way, speaking of privacy, my name is even 1:38:50.120 --> 1:38:51.760 on here so I can type in. It says add 1:38:51.760 --> 1:38:53.160 your name, So I'm going to add my name to 1:38:53.200 --> 1:38:55.320 my little flight passport here because it doesn't even know 1:38:55.360 --> 1:38:57.360 that it's not pulling it from anywhere. So it says 1:38:57.400 --> 1:38:59.720 that I've done five hundred and thirty one nine and 1:38:59.720 --> 1:39:03.840 eighty four miles in my lifetime, twenty one point four 1:39:03.880 --> 1:39:06.799 times around the world, three hundred and twenty seven flights, 1:39:07.000 --> 1:39:10.160 forty six airports, twelve countries, fifty two days in the air. 1:39:10.640 --> 1:39:13.240 And you can go through and literally scroll through all 1:39:13.280 --> 1:39:16.000 of your past flights and when you're taking a flight, 1:39:16.520 --> 1:39:19.160 it will show your history on that route. So I 1:39:19.240 --> 1:39:21.599 fly back to Newark a lot because my family's from 1:39:21.600 --> 1:39:24.280 New Jersey. It will show me how many times I've 1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:26.639 been there. Now, these are things you don't necessarily need, 1:39:26.880 --> 1:39:30.120 but it's really cool to have that if you're into flying. 1:39:31.280 --> 1:39:33.519 Yeah, and people really really love that feature, you know. 1:39:33.840 --> 1:39:35.920 As usual, we see a lot of shares towards the 1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:37.680 end of the year when people are doing kind of 1:39:38.120 --> 1:39:41.000 that Spotify unwrapped and that end of year, here's what 1:39:41.040 --> 1:39:42.720 I did for the year, and people will you know, 1:39:42.760 --> 1:39:45.439 we automatically tally up those miles as you fly for 1:39:45.560 --> 1:39:47.479 you and then put it in that really cool view 1:39:47.520 --> 1:39:49.240 that you can share out to social. 1:39:49.000 --> 1:39:49.719 Media and wherever. 1:39:50.200 --> 1:39:52.800 And one thing we know, we didn't anticipate this at all, 1:39:52.920 --> 1:39:56.120 but we have a lot of business travelers that will 1:39:56.240 --> 1:39:58.840 use that for year end tax reports to know where 1:39:58.880 --> 1:40:02.040 they were, what states, and what trips they took. 1:40:02.680 --> 1:40:05.439 Interesting. Okay, the other thing that I used the other 1:40:05.520 --> 1:40:08.800 day when I flew to I told a story about 1:40:08.840 --> 1:40:10.680 how I thought I was going to Sedona the whole time, 1:40:10.720 --> 1:40:13.360 but I ended up going to Phoenix and Scottsdale and anyway, 1:40:13.800 --> 1:40:16.160 even though I was tracking all my stuff. But I 1:40:16.320 --> 1:40:19.719 use the live share feature. So a lot of times 1:40:19.720 --> 1:40:21.559 when you're picking someone up from the airport, or if 1:40:21.560 --> 1:40:23.160 someone wants to know what flight you're on, like a 1:40:23.200 --> 1:40:26.000 loved one, you can now use this to share it 1:40:26.040 --> 1:40:27.599 with them, and even if they don't have the app, 1:40:27.600 --> 1:40:31.160 it still works in the same beautiful way. Can you 1:40:31.200 --> 1:40:32.160 talk about that a little bit. 1:40:33.000 --> 1:40:33.200 Yeah. 1:40:33.240 --> 1:40:35.639 Absolutely. You know, we all have people in our lives 1:40:35.680 --> 1:40:38.680 who are kind of reluctant to download apps or just 1:40:38.760 --> 1:40:40.639 you know, don't really want another app at the moment, 1:40:40.640 --> 1:40:44.160 and we you know, we're super focused on the user experience. 1:40:44.200 --> 1:40:47.000 So what you can do is at any time. It 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:48.760 can be up to three hundred and sixty five days 1:40:48.760 --> 1:40:50.920 in advance, or it can be when you're walking down 1:40:50.920 --> 1:40:54.120 the jetway. There's a button on each flight that says 1:40:54.160 --> 1:40:57.479 live Share and you can send just a private URL 1:40:57.560 --> 1:41:00.920 to anyone, let's say your spouse or your part and 1:41:00.960 --> 1:41:04.040 when they click that link, they'll see all the basic 1:41:04.080 --> 1:41:07.439 fline information they need just in the normal Safari or 1:41:07.560 --> 1:41:09.639 Chrome web browser. They don't have to download the app, 1:41:09.680 --> 1:41:11.639 they don't have to interview, use their names, there's no ads, 1:41:11.640 --> 1:41:15.360 there's nothing, so they can get like you said, arrival, 1:41:15.880 --> 1:41:18.519 any sort of delays. They can see what time you're landing, 1:41:18.600 --> 1:41:20.479 what time you are actually gonna arrive at the gate, 1:41:20.720 --> 1:41:22.400 and then if they want, they can download the app, 1:41:22.439 --> 1:41:23.840 but they don't have to, you know, they can use 1:41:23.960 --> 1:41:27.719 just that web view right there and constantly see without 1:41:27.720 --> 1:41:28.799 having to download anything. 1:41:28.880 --> 1:41:31.759 All right. My guest is Ryan Jones, founder and CEO 1:41:31.960 --> 1:41:35.439 at Flighty, which is an iOS app. Any plans for 1:41:35.520 --> 1:41:37.360 Android at this point? I know this is a very 1:41:37.400 --> 1:41:40.200 heavy iOS app, especially with the live activities, which you 1:41:40.240 --> 1:41:42.160 are like one of the first to take advantage of, 1:41:42.479 --> 1:41:44.800 so you see your flight tracking right on your home screen. 1:41:44.800 --> 1:41:47.759 If you have a new iPhone, any plans for Android 1:41:47.800 --> 1:41:48.040 at all? 1:41:49.400 --> 1:41:51.240 You know, it's probably a year or two out. 1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:51.680 For us. 1:41:52.000 --> 1:41:53.920 We're just a team of three at the moment, we're 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:56.640 all self funded, trying to really do this from the 1:41:56.640 --> 1:41:59.160 ground up in a sustainable way where we can have 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:02.400 you know, decades long, really healthy, kind of profitable business. 1:42:03.080 --> 1:42:05.040 So at the moment, it's not on this. 1:42:05.120 --> 1:42:07.800 Year's calendarly okay, And can you talk about the price 1:42:07.840 --> 1:42:10.360 of the app, what you get for free versus when 1:42:10.360 --> 1:42:13.240 you think someone should subscribe for the pro features? 1:42:13.800 --> 1:42:14.000 Yeah? 1:42:14.040 --> 1:42:18.439 Absolutely, So you get unlimited flights with live tracking for free. 1:42:19.120 --> 1:42:21.800 Once you start getting into I want to do some 1:42:21.960 --> 1:42:27.720 delay predictions, or I want to do the push alerts, 1:42:27.840 --> 1:42:30.040 or we have a connection assistant so when you land 1:42:30.080 --> 1:42:32.400 in let's say Sedona or that's a bad example, but 1:42:32.439 --> 1:42:34.360 you land in Denver and then you're connecting to New York, 1:42:34.439 --> 1:42:36.320 will tell you what gate you came from and what 1:42:36.360 --> 1:42:38.599 gate you need to go to. Those kind of pro 1:42:38.680 --> 1:42:41.320 features are part of our flight e Pro, which is 1:42:41.560 --> 1:42:44.479 five dollars a month or fifty dollars a year. And 1:42:44.680 --> 1:42:46.680 you asked a great question, when do people need that? 1:42:47.800 --> 1:42:50.200 So your first flight, we give you pro for free. 1:42:50.240 --> 1:42:51.439 You don't have to sign up, you don't have to 1:42:51.479 --> 1:42:53.519 do a trial or anything. It just everyone gets one 1:42:53.520 --> 1:42:56.120 for free to see what it's like, and then if 1:42:56.160 --> 1:43:00.439 you want to upgrade pro later. It's we think tend 1:43:00.439 --> 1:43:03.599 to do that. If you track ten flights a year, 1:43:03.760 --> 1:43:07.120 so maybe you fly on five or six and your 1:43:07.120 --> 1:43:10.240 spouse or kids fly on another five to six, it's 1:43:10.240 --> 1:43:13.000 probably we tend to see people upgrading around that ten 1:43:13.160 --> 1:43:14.120 ten flights a year mark. 1:43:14.360 --> 1:43:16.280 All right, Ryan Jones, We're gonna leave it there. Thanks 1:43:16.320 --> 1:43:19.600 so much for talking about one of the most beautiful 1:43:19.800 --> 1:43:23.280 flight tracking apps that I've ever seen. Flighty is the name. 1:43:23.320 --> 1:43:25.639 I've put a link on my website rich on tech 1:43:25.680 --> 1:43:27.720 dot TV. Ryan. Where are you headed next? Where's your 1:43:27.760 --> 1:43:28.160 next flight? 1:43:29.479 --> 1:43:29.679 Oh? 1:43:29.720 --> 1:43:30.800 Where am I going next? 1:43:30.840 --> 1:43:31.000 Oh? 1:43:31.000 --> 1:43:33.559 I'm actually going to uh Cooper Tino. So Apple has 1:43:33.600 --> 1:43:36.160 the you know, Ilus seventeen releases. They just announced the 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:38.879 date June fifth, so we've got all our flight schedules 1:43:38.880 --> 1:43:39.160 for that. 1:43:39.400 --> 1:43:41.160 Nice. I hope to see you up there. I don't 1:43:41.160 --> 1:43:42.519 know if I have an invite just yet. I know 1:43:42.560 --> 1:43:44.720 it's a small invited crowd, but we'll see. I was 1:43:44.760 --> 1:43:46.920 there last year and it was a surprise, so I'm 1:43:46.960 --> 1:43:48.960 looking forward to it this year. All right, Ryan Jones, 1:43:48.960 --> 1:43:52.320 thanks so much for joining me today. Thanks rich all right, 1:43:53.080 --> 1:43:55.599 rich on tech dot TV, if you want a link 1:43:55.640 --> 1:43:57.720 to try out Flighty before your next flight. It is 1:43:57.760 --> 1:43:59.680 such a super cool app. All right, I might have 1:43:59.680 --> 1:44:02.439 time for one more question. Coming back eighty eight Rich 1:44:02.520 --> 1:44:05.320 one on one eight eight eight seven four to four 1:44:05.320 --> 1:44:11.960 to one zero one. You are listening to rich On Tack. Welcome, 1:44:12.720 --> 1:44:15.960 Welcome back to rich on tech rich DeMuro here closing 1:44:16.000 --> 1:44:21.599 out the hour, Let's go to Virgil in Durango, Colorado. Virgil, 1:44:21.640 --> 1:44:23.479 you're on with Rich Hi. 1:44:23.760 --> 1:44:27.839 Rich. The first thing is that I wanted to advise 1:44:27.920 --> 1:44:32.360 you of is this past week, the Denver Police Department 1:44:32.880 --> 1:44:37.600 announced that they were going to be implementing AI to 1:44:37.760 --> 1:44:43.280 review all of the buddy cam footage of their officers. 1:44:43.640 --> 1:44:48.320 They accumulate a vast amount of this, but nobody looks 1:44:48.360 --> 1:44:50.960 at at all, and they only randomly check it. 1:44:51.320 --> 1:44:55.720 Wow, that's wild. Yeah, that's I mean. See, there you go. 1:44:55.760 --> 1:44:59.800 There's an example of a really interesting use of a 1:45:00.920 --> 1:45:03.240 because humans are not going to scan through all that footage, 1:45:03.240 --> 1:45:06.679 but for a computer to do it and in record time, 1:45:06.800 --> 1:45:08.920 and to come up with all, hey, hey, here's ten 1:45:08.960 --> 1:45:12.280 things that you should take another look at. That's really fascinating. Wow, 1:45:12.360 --> 1:45:15.400 thanks for that interesting update. Okay, keep going. 1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:22.679 Okay, the second thing was concerning inevitable built in bias 1:45:23.360 --> 1:45:31.160 in AI. What value systems will I rely upon to 1:45:31.479 --> 1:45:37.720 make recommendations concerning your conduct in the future. For example, 1:45:38.680 --> 1:45:42.120 we have the Ten Commandments, is be kind of a 1:45:42.160 --> 1:45:47.519 basic group for what human conduct should be. But we 1:45:47.640 --> 1:45:52.040 have people that say, well, the rule is what is 1:45:52.120 --> 1:45:57.120 for the better the greater gold, and so these are 1:45:57.160 --> 1:46:02.600 going to be perhaps very different systems evaluation. 1:46:03.120 --> 1:46:06.280 Yeah, and it's it's a great Yeah. 1:46:07.040 --> 1:46:11.840 Let's take you have a disabled ninety year old grandmother 1:46:12.040 --> 1:46:18.839 and the question is whether you should provide continuing medical 1:46:19.040 --> 1:46:25.120 aid for her or encourage her to commit suicide. Essentially, 1:46:25.479 --> 1:46:29.040 how is SAYI going to answer questions that a loud 1:46:29.160 --> 1:46:30.360 moral decisions? 1:46:30.600 --> 1:46:32.800 Yeah, and this is Look, and this is not a 1:46:32.840 --> 1:46:35.400 new situation. We've been you know, we've talked about this 1:46:35.479 --> 1:46:39.000 with self driving cars. You know, let's say you're in 1:46:39.000 --> 1:46:41.720 a self driving car. You're going around a corner and 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:44.839 you know there's something in the road that's a person 1:46:45.320 --> 1:46:48.040 and this car has to avoid that, but by avoiding it, 1:46:48.040 --> 1:46:49.680 it has to run you off the road. I mean, 1:46:49.720 --> 1:46:53.439 which decision, which human life, does it save and it 1:46:53.479 --> 1:46:55.360 may not be able to save both or it can't, 1:46:55.920 --> 1:46:58.880 And so these are decisions that I don't have the 1:46:58.920 --> 1:47:02.360 answer to, and I'm not sure anyone does. But again, 1:47:02.520 --> 1:47:05.640 I think that in some cases, when it comes to 1:47:05.720 --> 1:47:09.439 certain decisions, these systems may be better than what humans 1:47:09.439 --> 1:47:11.600 can do. And I think, especially when it comes to 1:47:11.640 --> 1:47:14.000 the medical field, I think AI is going to have 1:47:14.040 --> 1:47:20.840 a huge boost, but also it's gonna it's gonna evidence 1:47:20.920 --> 1:47:24.000 some really sad things as well, when people think, you know, 1:47:24.120 --> 1:47:27.120 maybe they can get through something and the AI says 1:47:27.160 --> 1:47:30.200 they can't, or if insurance companies start using AI and 1:47:30.240 --> 1:47:32.479 they say no, there's just no reason why we should 1:47:32.479 --> 1:47:36.240 do this treatment because it's too cost prohibitive or it's 1:47:36.280 --> 1:47:38.439 just not going to be effective enough. So I think 1:47:38.479 --> 1:47:41.880 that we are just just at the tip of the 1:47:41.920 --> 1:47:45.640 iceberg when it comes to all of the implications in 1:47:45.680 --> 1:47:51.080 our lives that AI will have. And again the fact 1:47:51.120 --> 1:47:53.160 that the you know, the police department is now using 1:47:53.200 --> 1:47:57.120 AI to sift through this footage. I know that police 1:47:57.120 --> 1:48:03.080 departments and cities are already using scanners on the cars 1:48:03.080 --> 1:48:05.280 that are driving around, like some of the city cars, 1:48:05.640 --> 1:48:08.599 to search for cars that are stolen or cars that 1:48:08.640 --> 1:48:11.920 have you know, repo. I mean, there's just so many 1:48:11.960 --> 1:48:14.799 ways that AI can be used for good and also 1:48:15.040 --> 1:48:17.400 for not so good. And when it comes to the 1:48:17.479 --> 1:48:20.680 values of these AI systems right now, this is the 1:48:20.680 --> 1:48:23.800 other thing that the AI community is debating. It's who 1:48:23.840 --> 1:48:26.479 gets to say what these values are. So when these 1:48:26.560 --> 1:48:29.759 when chat GPT comes out, there's no third party review 1:48:29.920 --> 1:48:32.800 of how they're programming this. They may program it to 1:48:32.840 --> 1:48:36.639 say never talk about this topic, and nobody is none 1:48:36.680 --> 1:48:39.320 the wiser because they just can't do anything about that. 1:48:39.920 --> 1:48:43.160 So until people open source these systems or open source 1:48:43.240 --> 1:48:46.559 to programming, we just don't know. And again, a lot 1:48:46.640 --> 1:48:48.920 of these things are being figured out as we go 1:48:49.000 --> 1:48:52.599 along because this is also new. So Virgil, great topic, 1:48:52.680 --> 1:48:56.679 great discussion, and really really just again, this entire show 1:48:56.720 --> 1:48:59.040 could be AI. But let's move on for now. I 1:48:59.120 --> 1:49:00.720 want to tell you two more things before we have 1:49:00.760 --> 1:49:03.280 to go here. First, I thought this was kind of cool. 1:49:03.360 --> 1:49:07.280 Audible is conducting a limited testing, according to Marketing brew 1:49:07.400 --> 1:49:11.280 of ADS in audio books, So I thought this was 1:49:11.360 --> 1:49:13.720 kind of neat because if you're a non member, you 1:49:13.800 --> 1:49:16.479 can get ADS supported access to a limited set of 1:49:16.560 --> 1:49:19.320 Audible titles and you can hear up to eight ads 1:49:19.320 --> 1:49:22.080 in a twenty four hour period. Now you may say, rich, 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:24.760 I don't want ads in my audio books, But how 1:49:24.880 --> 1:49:28.040 neat is it that you can listen to these books 1:49:28.120 --> 1:49:30.559 for free if you don't mind the ads. And for 1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:33.320 many people, they don't mind listening to these ads. And 1:49:33.400 --> 1:49:36.360 audiobooks we know are very popular, especially since the pandemic, 1:49:36.680 --> 1:49:39.639 their popularity has just grown. So I thought that was neat. 1:49:39.680 --> 1:49:42.080 So there may be a way to listen to audiobooks 1:49:42.080 --> 1:49:45.479 for free. And then life Hacker had a website called 1:49:45.560 --> 1:49:47.880 luggage Hero that they recently featured, and I thought was 1:49:47.880 --> 1:49:50.839 a pretty good idea. If you've ever traveled to a city, 1:49:51.080 --> 1:49:53.360 you landed, your hotel room's not ready, you've got all 1:49:53.360 --> 1:49:56.400 this luggage. Luggage Hero is kind of like an Airbnb, 1:49:56.400 --> 1:49:59.839 but for your luggage, and so you can put your luggage. 1:50:00.120 --> 1:50:01.920 You search for this site. They're in one hundred and 1:50:01.920 --> 1:50:04.840 seventy one cities across the world, and you can find 1:50:04.880 --> 1:50:06.559 a place to store your luggage. It might be a 1:50:06.560 --> 1:50:09.640 coffee house, it might be a small business. These businesses 1:50:09.680 --> 1:50:12.600 sign up. Luggage Hero says they are vetted, and you 1:50:12.680 --> 1:50:14.200 go there, you give them your luggage. They'll give you 1:50:14.240 --> 1:50:17.920 some sort of ticket and then it's ninety five cents 1:50:17.920 --> 1:50:20.280 for an hour for a single bag, or eight bucks 1:50:20.280 --> 1:50:23.880 per day, and you get a guarantee of five hundred 1:50:23.880 --> 1:50:26.360 dollars insurance on your bag, which is probably not enough 1:50:26.400 --> 1:50:29.000 for most people, or maybe it is, who knows. There's 1:50:29.040 --> 1:50:32.240 also an optional insurance that guarantees payback for up to 1:50:32.400 --> 1:50:35.360 three thousand dollars if there is an issue with your 1:50:35.400 --> 1:50:38.280 bag being lost or stolen or anything like that. But again, 1:50:38.360 --> 1:50:41.519 luggage Hero says that they do vet these drop off 1:50:41.520 --> 1:50:43.840 sites and if you're a business, maybe you want to 1:50:43.880 --> 1:50:45.960 sign up with this website make some extra cash if 1:50:45.960 --> 1:50:48.080 you run like a small business and you've got some 1:50:48.240 --> 1:50:51.439 space to keep people's luggage in there. Again, the website 1:50:51.520 --> 1:50:55.320 is called Luggage Hero. It started in Copenhagen and in 1:50:55.400 --> 1:50:57.639 twenty sixteen, so this has been around for a while. 1:50:58.000 --> 1:50:59.479 But I thought that was kind of neat because when 1:50:59.479 --> 1:51:02.680 we landed in Rome last summer, we had to leave 1:51:02.720 --> 1:51:04.320 our bags. We put them at the hotel. But maybe 1:51:04.320 --> 1:51:06.320 you want to explore the city in a place that's 1:51:06.360 --> 1:51:08.000 not near the hotel, and so you just want to 1:51:08.040 --> 1:51:09.840 drop them off right near a cafe or somewhere you 1:51:09.840 --> 1:51:12.320 want to eat. All right, my name is rich Damiro. 1:51:12.439 --> 1:51:14.120 I cannot believe it. That's going to do it for 1:51:14.160 --> 1:51:16.759 this episode of the show. Thanks so much for listening. 1:51:16.800 --> 1:51:18.840 Next week we're going to talk to someone who is 1:51:18.880 --> 1:51:22.040 working on bringing my message to iOS. You can find 1:51:22.040 --> 1:51:24.920 me on social media at rich on tech. The website 1:51:25.000 --> 1:51:28.479 is richontech dot tv. Check it out to watch my 1:51:28.560 --> 1:51:31.599 TV segments. My name is Richardmiro. Thanks so much for listening. 1:51:31.680 --> 1:51:33.599 There are so many ways you can spend your time. 1:51:33.680 --> 1:51:35.960 I do appreciate you spending it right here with me. 1:51:36.400 --> 1:51:37.880 I'll talk to you real soon.