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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a good weekend so far. I am,

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Speaker 3: gaming conference that happened in a couple of places across

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Speaker 3: the world a couple times a year. And that's a

431
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Speaker 3: successful one, right, Yes, tax the tax is very successful,

432
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Speaker 3: it's very well loved. It's much smaller than E three,

433
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Speaker 3: and it is a consumer show specifically, but yeah, people

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Speaker 3: love tax It's a great show. But yeah, they brought

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Speaker 3: Redpop on and there at the beginning, there was a

436
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Speaker 3: lot of conversation about how it seemed to be going well.

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Speaker 3: People seem to be buying in, but kind of just

438
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Speaker 3: a confluence of crappy things sort of led to a

439
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Speaker 3: lot of publishers dropping out. A lot of companies still

440
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Speaker 3: haven't brought on. You know, they laid off event staff

441
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Speaker 3: when the pandemic happened, or they cut events budgets pretty

442
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Speaker 3: significantly because they didn't need to have in person events,

443
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Speaker 3: and they haven't really fueled those again. Covid disrupt did

444
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Speaker 3: a lot of development cycles for people, and so they

445
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Speaker 3: don't necessarily have big game demos ready to show on

446
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Speaker 3: the show floor. Takes a lot of work to make

447
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Speaker 3: those things. And then just there was just kind of

448
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Speaker 3: a disorganized a little bit of disorganization from what disorganization

449
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Speaker 3: from what I understand, kind of lack of communication is

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Speaker 3: what my sources tell me on that, and kind of

451
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Speaker 3: a lack of faith that this show was going to

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Speaker 3: be worse, the amount of money that companies would need

453
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Speaker 3: to put into it. So SOLLY has been kind of

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Speaker 3: checked out for several years. Nintendo and Xbox found said

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Speaker 3: that they were not going to be there, and then

456
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Speaker 3: you'd be Saft, followed suits and then Sega and Tencent,

457
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Speaker 3: and it just there were so many people kind of

458
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Speaker 3: waiting for someone else to jump into the pool and say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm committed to E three, I'm gonna I'm going to

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Speaker 3: be there and make this worth it that you know. No,

461
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Speaker 3: but nobody actually took the leap, and so it was

462
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Speaker 3: two months out of getting more and more expensive to cancel,

463
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Speaker 3: and so they had to bail.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, So what does this mean for the video

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Speaker 1: game industry? Aren't there competitor shows that are now sort

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Speaker 1: of happening more online or what does this mean for

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Speaker 1: the industry.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's less a causal kind of thing

469
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Speaker 3: and more a symptom of the industry slowly changing, sort

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Speaker 3: of in response to the pandemic and some other things.

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Speaker 3: So kind of one of the things that people discovered

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Speaker 3: during the pandemic is that they could successfully have digital showcases.

473
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Speaker 3: You know, at E three, it's a week long thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not just a it was not just a floor show.

475
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Speaker 3: It was also a bunch of digital showcases where Xbox

476
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Speaker 3: and Sony and Nintendo and all these other third party

477
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Speaker 3: Triple A publishers were having these big showcases announcing all

478
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Speaker 3: their stuff, and it was all happening at once, So

479
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Speaker 3: there was always kind of this conversation around, oh, who

480
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Speaker 3: want E three? We're all competing here, and if you

481
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Speaker 3: had a big announcement, it kind of got drowned out

482
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Speaker 3: by someone else inevitably, And so everybody discovered that they

483
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Speaker 3: could just successfully do digital showcases at any time of

484
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Speaker 3: the year and speak directly to their audience and take

485
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Speaker 3: up all the spotlights that they wanted. And if they

486
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Speaker 3: wanted to show games to press, they could do that

487
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 3: at Gamescom, they could do that effectively. At packs they

488
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Speaker 3: could just fly select press outlets out on their their

489
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Speaker 3: own dime and do a little showcase in their office.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's all all kinds of different ways they

491
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Speaker 3: can do that. And you know, business deals still happen

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Speaker 3: at other shows like Games Common Germany or you know,

493
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Speaker 3: in other places, and so I think there's a lot

494
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Speaker 3: of different factors. But I think I think the industry

495
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Speaker 3: just sort of kind of discovered over time that they

496
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Speaker 3: didn't really need E three. And I think we're still

497
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Speaker 3: going to have sort of a little bonanza of digital showcases,

498
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Speaker 3: and Jeff Keeley's got an event going on in LA

499
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Speaker 3: around that time to show some games for the press

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Speaker 3: as well. But I think I think we're just going

501
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Speaker 3: to foresee a dissipation of what E three used to be.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't necessarily feel confident it's going to come back,

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Speaker 3: but I also think that maybe the industry has moved

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Speaker 3: past it.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of sad. I mean, you know, being based

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, it was always kind of fun to

508
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Speaker 1: go there, you know, once a year in June. I'm

509
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Speaker 1: not a huge gamer, but it was just fun to

510
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Speaker 1: be there with the people and to see what was

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Speaker 1: going on and of course play some of the games.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that you know, there was a benefit

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Speaker 1: to being in person versus you know, virtual.

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Speaker 3: Oh, certainly. And I think there's a benefit for certain people,

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Speaker 3: right Like, there's plenty of other consumer shows, So I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't necessarily feel like that element is lost, but

517
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Speaker 3: I do feel there was been the media side, certainly,

518
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Speaker 3: there's quite the loss because having literally everybody in one

519
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: spot for a week was super convenient, and it was

520
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: also you know, very very helpful for access, right Like

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Speaker 3: companies would offer up you know, executives for interviews, or

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Speaker 3: they would have game demos or developers that you could

523
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Speaker 3: talk to, and they were all kind of there in

524
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Speaker 3: a way that they're not necessarily there all year round.

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Speaker 3: And so I think the thing that I'm sort of

526
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Speaker 3: afraid of happening is that long term we see kind

527
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Speaker 3: of access dry up and media less and less able

528
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Speaker 3: to actually be able to ask tough questions of companies

529
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Speaker 3: or you know, get get really useful information for players

530
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Speaker 3: about what's going on with games and inside games. I

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Speaker 3: hope there are you know, other avenues, and I hope,

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Speaker 3: I hope companies continue to provide those opportunities, but E

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Speaker 3: three was really sort of a I don't know, a

534
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Speaker 3: leveling of of that level of access for a lot

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Speaker 3: of people, and I think I think we'll lose out

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Speaker 3: without that all.

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Speaker 1: Right, before we go, I'm curious what you're looking forward

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Speaker 1: to this year. I mean, we don't have any new

539
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Speaker 1: consoles coming out, right, so is there games that you're

540
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Speaker 1: really looking forward to?

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Speaker 3: I feel like this is the easy cop out answer,

542
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Speaker 3: But man, I'm so excited for Tears of the Kingdom.

543
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Speaker 3: My partner's been playing the Champions ballid DLC for Breath

544
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Speaker 3: of the Wild, and I watched the gameplay showcase earlier

545
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Speaker 3: this week and I'm just sort of waiting for that

546
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Speaker 3: to come out. I can't focus on any other game

547
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Speaker 3: until I get my hands on that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And just to explain, that's the new Zelda sequel, right, yes,

549
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Speaker 1: on the Switch and this comes out when.

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Speaker 3: Oh, May twelve. Oh I hope that's right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well it's coming out soon, so in May sometime.

552
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Speaker 1: And this is also the first Switch game that's going

553
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Speaker 1: to be sixty nine ninety nine.

554
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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah. A lot of other companies are raising

555
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Speaker 3: their prices to round up to seventy dollars, and this

556
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Speaker 3: is the first one from Nintendo.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's fair? Do you think that's a

558
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Speaker 1: fair price for a Switch game?

559
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Speaker 3: Games are more expensive to make, so I get it, Like,

560
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Speaker 3: I think economically it makes perfect sense given how long

561
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: it takes to make these games and how much person

562
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: power and how much tech and how much everything else

563
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 3: has to go into them. That's that you know it sucks.

564
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Speaker 3: I'm paying ten more dollars.

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Speaker 1: Not fun, Yeah, that's for sure. But you know what,

566
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Speaker 1: people loved Breath of the Wild, and so if this

567
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Speaker 1: is even a fraction of that success, I think Nintendo,

568
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Speaker 1: I think the fans will be willing to pay that price.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I'm not worried about that game selling copy.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: Rebecca Valentine Duck Valentine on Twitter, reporter at IGN. Thanks

572
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Speaker 1: so much for joining me today. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, take care. Coming up, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about an event that is taking place but kind of virtual,

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00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: kind of in person. Apple announces a date for WWDC

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I'll tell you when that's happening and

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Speaker 1: what we're expecting coming up. Plus your calls at Triple

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Speaker 1: eight Rich one on one. That's eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two, four to one zero one. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to Rich on tech. Oh how appropriate. Now, no one

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Speaker 1: would call on their cell phone anymore, they would just text.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Rich on tech. My name is Rich Demiro,

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Speaker 1: tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles, hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at Triple eight. Rich one

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Speaker 1: oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two

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Speaker 1: four to one zero one. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: social media. I am at rich on Tech. I'm on Instagram, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: and Twitter. You can find me there and tweet it me. Also,

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Speaker 1: if you want to email, you can do that. The

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Speaker 1: email address is hello at richontech dot TV. Teresa did

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Speaker 1: just that. She said, Hey, I got a new phone.

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Speaker 1: I went to the AT and T store. They transferred

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Speaker 1: my data. Now I don't have my Gmail emails. At

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Speaker 1: and T can't help since it's a different carrier. Of

596
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Speaker 1: course they can't. How do I find them? Of course

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Speaker 1: some are very important. Please help me. I'm not electronic savvy.

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Speaker 1: It frustrates me. Thanks for your help. Candy. Oh interesting,

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Speaker 1: I guess she goes by Candy. Email, says Teresa, but

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Speaker 1: she signed it Candy. PS. Love your show and appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of your knowledge. Well, thank you, Candy. So sweet

602
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Speaker 1: of you. See what I did there, Okay, so very easy.

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Speaker 1: If you have Gmail, what's happened is your phone is

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Speaker 1: just not logged into Gmail. So you just need to

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Speaker 1: sign into your Google account and go to the Gmail

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00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 1: app on your phone and it will be there. So

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Speaker 1: I would go on if you have an iPhone or

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Speaker 1: if you have an iPhone, I would you probably hadn't.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing you have an iPhone because Android would automatically

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Speaker 1: be logged in, so I'm guessing its iPhone. So in

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Speaker 1: the case of iPhone, there's two ways you can do it.

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Speaker 1: You can either go to the Mail app, which is

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Speaker 1: you know m Ail, open up that app and you

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Speaker 1: can add an account. And if you don't want to

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Speaker 1: go through the app, you can also go through the

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Speaker 1: settings on the iPhone. So if you go to settings,

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Speaker 1: scroll down until you see Mail, it's under passwords and

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Speaker 1: then it says accounts and then you can say add

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Speaker 1: account and it'll say iCloud, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, AOL or Outlook.

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Speaker 1: So click Google and then just log in with your

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Speaker 1: Google account and it will be all synced up. So

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Speaker 1: that's one way of doing it. Personally, I like using

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Speaker 1: the Gmail app, so you can just go to the

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Speaker 1: app store download the Gmail app and you can sign

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Speaker 1: in that way. But either way, your emails are safe

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Speaker 1: and sound. Believe me, they are not gone because Gmail

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Speaker 1: is one of the best email services and everything is

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Speaker 1: stored in the cloud, so you are going to be

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Speaker 1: just okay. Candy, good question, thanks for emailing in, Darren

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Speaker 1: writes in. Darren writes in, hey, Rich, is it completely

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Speaker 1: safe to trade in a phone when resold? Can a

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Speaker 1: master hacker get any of my deleted data? Thanks? And

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Speaker 1: he sent it from Android, So that is a good question.

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Speaker 1: Let me think about that. I mean, there's always a

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Speaker 1: potential when you're deleting something on a phone. Most of

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Speaker 1: the time it's just getting marked for deletion. It's not

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Speaker 1: unless you're over writing that data. It still sort of

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Speaker 1: exists on the memory. And so unless you're writing something

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Speaker 1: over what you just did, it's still there in some way.

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Speaker 1: Most of the time, it's just not accessible from the

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Speaker 1: standard means of accessing information. But if someone wanted to

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Speaker 1: go in there with some sort of recovery software, they

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Speaker 1: could potentially do that. I'm not saying it's a guarantee,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, there's a potential of that. So I have

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Speaker 1: just to let you know. I've resold many phones over

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Speaker 1: That's one way of doing it. That's probably what i'd recommend.

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Speaker 1: So if you're not familiar with how to do that

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Speaker 1: as well with recovering this stuff, if you know, making

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Speaker 1: it tougher to recover. So I think you're probably going

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Speaker 1: to be okay. But if you want once you erase

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Speaker 1: all the data, it's going to take a little time

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Speaker 1: for that to happen. You can set up the phone again.

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Speaker 1: Just kind of scroll through all the options to set

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Speaker 1: or do anything like that, but just get it to

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Speaker 1: the point where you can access the operating system again,

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Speaker 1: and then you can do that one more time and

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Speaker 1: factory reset it twice. There's another way to factory reset androids,

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Speaker 1: and that's through the recovery mode. And every phone is

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Speaker 1: time until the Android logo appears, and then sometimes you

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Speaker 1: have to like release the power but hold down the volume.

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Speaker 1: You can look it up. Just look up like whatever

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Speaker 1: model your phone is. If it's a Samsung, say like

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Speaker 1: Samsung S twenty one, recovery mode, and it will tell

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Speaker 1: you how to access the recovery mode. And there's a

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Speaker 1: way to format your phone in recovery mode as well.

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Speaker 1: So if you've forgotten the password or you have forgotten

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Speaker 1: everything off of that phone even in that case, so

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to sell it or trade it in

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Now, most of the time, if I was

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Speaker 1: make sure that your information is off of there. All right,

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Speaker 1: too fast, WWDC, this is Apple's big event. We just

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Speaker 1: talked about how just talked about how E three is

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Speaker 1: not happening. Now. We didn't mention E three twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: show that I look forward to, and I know other

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Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting because we're seeing kind of like

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Speaker 1: this divergence, like some things are going really well, other

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Speaker 1: things are just dying out. So Apple WWDC is probably

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest events of the year other than

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Speaker 1: the iPhone launch. Apple has announced it's taking place on

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Speaker 1: June fifth. This is not a consumer show. This is

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Speaker 1: a show where developers go to see what's next with

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Speaker 1: iPhones with all the software. If you can imagine so

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Speaker 1: iOS seventeen, iPadOS seventeen, tvOS seventeen, watch os ten, and

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Speaker 1: mac os fourteen, that's one, two, three, four, five separate

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Speaker 1: software that developers code for for apps for the iPhone,

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Speaker 1: for the iPad, for Apple TV, for the watches, for

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Speaker 1: Mac computers. Now, typically they don't do a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of hardware announcements at this show, but you never know.

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Speaker 1: And this year there's this big rumor that they may

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Speaker 1: show off their new AR virtual reality headset. But we've

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Speaker 1: if it's going to happen. And also there's also there's

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Speaker 1: rumors that this thing is gonna be like three to

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Speaker 1: four thousand dollars for a virtual reality headset. I don't

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Speaker 1: be like sub five hundred bucks. This is happening Monday,

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Speaker 1: June fifth, that's the big keynote, So I will head well,

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Speaker 1: hopefully i'll head up there. They're having a small in

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Speaker 1: I'll be invited, but it's going to be an online event.

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Speaker 1: So in the past, this has been a show that

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Speaker 1: people from all over the world fly in. Developers from

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Speaker 1: all over the world come in to do this show,

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Speaker 1: and to go to these events, and to go to

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Speaker 1: these little seminars and you know speakers that they have

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Speaker 1: from Apple. This is not happening this year except online.

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Speaker 1: So June fifth, Friday, June ninth, WWDC, that's when it's happening.

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Speaker 1: All right, more of your calls coming up next. Plus

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Speaker 1: right there. Kevin is in the mountains of Utah. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Rich, thanks a million. Congratulations on the show and

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Speaker 5: big fan and I think I speak on behalf of everybody.

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Speaker 5: You give it a real community feel.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 5: I did that a lot. My question for you, so

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Speaker 5: I was listening to your podcast from last week's show,

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Speaker 5: and uh so I was setting myself a reminder to

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Speaker 5: call you to ask this question. So serendipitously, the next

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Speaker 5: topic you mentioned was there was a caller for Google

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Speaker 5: Mesh Wi Fi and you recommended the Villo system, which

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Speaker 5: I purchased and it's on the way. But my question

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Speaker 5: to you is my issue is that Google Mesh doesn't

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Speaker 5: you can't separate the bands. And you know, despite popular belief,

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Speaker 5: there's still products that we have that are out, like

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Speaker 5: say rumbas. There's some laser engravers that I have that

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Speaker 5: will only run on two point four gigaherts. There was

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Speaker 5: a segment on Leo a long time ago when he

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Speaker 5: had a suggestion to get as far away from the

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Speaker 5: signal as possible. That way it would only pick up

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Speaker 5: two point four gigaherts, which didn't work. By the way,

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Speaker 5: now the mailbox holding my rumba. But so before I

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Speaker 5: sell this system, because I've built it up over the years,

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Speaker 5: all these different mesh pods, is there a hack in

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Speaker 5: order to separate that, because yeah, obviously everybody on forums

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Speaker 5: say that you can't do it. I even thought about

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Speaker 5: maybe getting a network extender that's only two point four gigaherts,

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Speaker 5: but that didn't seem to work either. Is there anything

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Speaker 5: I can do or should I just stick with the Villa,

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Speaker 5: which claims that they can separate.

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Speaker 1: So you're okay, So you're on which one right now?

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Speaker 5: So I'm on the on Google Mesh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're on the Google Okay, not the Nest.

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Speaker 5: It's not the Nests, the newest, it's the older version

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Speaker 5: of it.

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Speaker 1: So I know, I okay, So I know the Villo.

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Speaker 1: I believe you can say, like, hey, do this, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you how it works for mine. Okay, So and

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Speaker 1: let me just explain what you're talking about in case

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Speaker 1: you know someone's listening and they're like, wait, what was

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Speaker 1: he talking about right now? So a lot of gadgets

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Speaker 1: these days are using five gigaherts, which is a band

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Speaker 1: of Wi Fi. Most of the time, we don't really

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Speaker 1: it connects to your WiFi. You don't think about what

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Speaker 1: band it's using. But there's a lot of gadgets that

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Speaker 1: use two point four gigaherts, which is a different band,

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Speaker 1: So you know, when it comes to two point four gigaherts,

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Speaker 1: goes further. It travels further, but it's slower. Right, five

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Speaker 1: gigaherts as a shorter range, but it's faster, And so

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Speaker 1: a lot of the new gadgets will use the five gigaherts.

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Speaker 1: It's just how it works now. Sometimes gadgets, especially these

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Speaker 1: it's cheaper, just it's a simpler chip. They can build

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Speaker 1: it in there. But the problem is when you go

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Speaker 1: point four device does not find the router. Does that

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Speaker 1: kind of all make sense to you, Kevin, sure?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Okay. So on the eurosystem that I have, it's hidden

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Speaker 1: in the settings all the way in like advanced settings.

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Speaker 1: You would never even find this as the average person,

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Speaker 1: except of course I'm a nerd. So I go through

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Speaker 1: so I found because I was really having trouble connecting

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Speaker 1: It just would not find the Wi Fi and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what is going on here? And sure enough I looked

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Speaker 1: euro settings it will actually if you go to this setting,

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Speaker 1: it will flip the network to two point four gigahertz,

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Speaker 1: but only for like ten minutes, just to give you

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Speaker 1: enough time to connect this gadget, and then it will

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Speaker 1: stay on the network on the two point four and

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Speaker 1: everything else will to fall back to the five. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know. My long answer is, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if Google has that setting. It's been a while since

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Speaker 1: I played with the settings inside the Google network. But

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Speaker 1: have you looked through every single setting on that Google

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Speaker 1: app and.

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Speaker 5: Every Reddit forum, and everybody says it's the only system

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Speaker 5: that can't And that's why I thought there might be

859
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Speaker 5: a hack. But then what you mentioned last week where

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Speaker 5: you said, you know, Google's just got too much. They

861
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Speaker 5: have too many things going on, Yeah, and they don't

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Speaker 5: focus on the details. So my plan at this point,

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Speaker 5: especially after hearing what you just said, is to stick

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Speaker 5: with the Villo. Give that a ride. And thanks for

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Speaker 5: that suggestion about by the way, because that doesn't pop

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Speaker 5: up as your you know, ten best options for Mesh systems,

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Speaker 5: you know, in twenty twenty three, So that was a

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Speaker 5: that was a real pearl, So I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, and the stuff I recommend like that

872
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: is stuff that I personally test out, and like I

873
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: tested this system and I thought it was great. I

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00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: mean it really and I've tested. Actually they have a

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Speaker 1: new one now, they have a Villo six and it's

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Speaker 1: just as good. I mean, I've got euro at home,

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00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: which is is excellent. It's like known to be one

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00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: of the best. I've had it for a long time,

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00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: you know, several different versions actually, and I do like it,

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Speaker 1: but I think that there's other options, and Villa is

881
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Speaker 1: also a lot cheaper. Now here's the other thing I'm

882
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: trying to look. I'm looking at this Google see now

883
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: it says how you know have you I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: this Nest Wi Fi kind of support form, and it

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00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: looks like it somehow supports this, but I don't.

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Speaker 5: Okay, hold on, it has both both two point four

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Speaker 5: and five, but you can't create a separate SSID specifically

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Speaker 5: for the two point four and that's it just auto assigns.

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Speaker 5: That's the problem. So after spending so many years building

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Speaker 5: up this mesh system, now just to like, now I

891
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Speaker 5: have to rename the network for every single thing again.

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Speaker 5: But you know, if the Villo solves that, which it

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Speaker 5: appears it does, then I'll just stick with that. I

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Speaker 5: just wanted to double check before I went through the

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Speaker 5: hassle where I could still return it to Amazon if

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Speaker 5: I needed to.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because the Google stuff says that devices that

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Speaker 1: support only the two point four gigahertz band, such as

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Speaker 1: an older phone, will automatically connect to the band on

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Speaker 1: your system, and it's not doing that.

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Speaker 5: Not at all. And even in the home the Google

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Speaker 5: Home app, so when they used to have the Wi

903
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Speaker 5: Fi app, there was there there there were two separate SSIDs.

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Speaker 5: So by by their way of improving and I do

905
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Speaker 5: air quotes with that their system, they removed some of

906
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 5: the essentials. So I yeah, that's that's pretty much the case.

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Speaker 5: I've spent probably a couple of weeks looking for different options,

908
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Speaker 5: and the best one was, I believe it or not,

909
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Speaker 5: was walking as far away from your house as possible

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Speaker 5: with a device.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, it's an interesting suggestion. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess you know that may work, and you have an

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Speaker 1: Android Do you have an Android phone that you can

914
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Speaker 1: use to kind of look at what this thing is

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Speaker 1: putting out as well? Like what? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And I tried that with my, uh my Galaxy tablet

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Speaker 5: or the Samsung tablet that I have. And so that

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Speaker 5: leads me to the other part of it. Is the

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Speaker 5: device that you're connecting is it being is it connecting

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Speaker 5: based on the gigahertz that's on the mobile device that

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Speaker 5: you're using to connect it to the network. So if

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Speaker 5: my phone, for instance, is on two point four gigaherts

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Speaker 5: or the Android at that time, and I'm adding device

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Speaker 5: X to the network, is it seeing the gigahertz that

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Speaker 5: is on my phone or is it No?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I think the device. Most

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Speaker 1: of the ways that these devices connect to Wi Fi

928
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Speaker 1: at this point is it sort of hands over the

929
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Speaker 1: information to that device and then that device goes and

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Speaker 1: connects on its own. That's how most of the modern devices.

931
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Speaker 1: Maybe the older devices didn't, but that's the way I'm

932
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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of these things working at this point.

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Speaker 1: But OK, well, it sounds like you know, I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: that all this two point four and five kind of

935
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Speaker 1: goes away in the future, but it's definitely it's still

936
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Speaker 1: like a tricky thing for a lot of people, and

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Speaker 1: I believe me, I get a lot of questions about it.

938
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: So it's definitely still a thing that nobody has really

939
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: really figured out. And by the way, with that plug

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00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: that I couldn't figure out, I ended up having just

941
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: I just wrote back to the company, I said, this

942
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: does not work with my network. It still wouldn't connect

943
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: even with all of that stuff, and so I ended

944
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Speaker 1: up getting a different, different plug and it worked just fine.

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Speaker 1: Soh gotcha.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, Well I'll try out the villow and I'll

947
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Speaker 5: see if that pans out.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you know, all right, Kevin, please report back.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for enjoying the show.

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks rich all right, take care.

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Speaker 1: All right, If you have a question, give me a call.

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Speaker 1: It's triple eight Rich one on one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: Apple TV MLS streaming, but yes they are. It's one

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Speaker 1: do it, these old rules that they still play by.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you the MLS streaming because Apple

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Speaker 1: it is still sports folks have it tough. You want

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Speaker 1: want to do all this stuff. No, no, no, it's just

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Speaker 1: all right. But if you have Team Mobile, definitely get that.

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Speaker 1: MLB TV. Their Team Mobile Tuesday stuff is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people are on spring break now,

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Speaker 1: are traveling very soon. My guest coming up Alexandra Samuel.

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Speaker 1: Amazon products. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out talking technology.

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Speaker 1: I just like this song, so all right, phone lines

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Speaker 1: are open at eight eight eight rich one O one

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Speaker 1: I actually this song mentions Japan, and I actually listened

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Speaker 1: to the song many many times when I was in Japan,

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Speaker 1: just to kind of, you know, identify with it. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to am, I saying, is it Elena in

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Speaker 1: West Covina? Elena, Hi Elena, Hi Elena. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm great.

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00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 4: I love your show. I've never missed you on KCLA ever.

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00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you. You are my ideal fan.

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00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 4: That's why I'm here to call.

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Speaker 6: I'll talk to you.

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00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, talk to me. What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Well, I have an app idea that hasn't very I haven't.

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Speaker 6: It's one of.

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Speaker 4: Those share ideas, you know, app share things, but I

1011
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 4: haven't seen my twist of it.

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00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: You mean, share like a sharing economy app.

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00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of those.

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00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, but I haven't seen it.

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00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 4: Because if you don't have it on your show, it's

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Speaker 4: either not there yet or maybe somebody has it and

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Speaker 4: they haven't produced it. But by the way, your screener

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Speaker 4: and producer, Kim is really not We love Kim.

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00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: I know she doesn't get to be on the show

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00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: like she used to be. I mean just yet, I mean,

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00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: we're look, this show is still evolving, so right now

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Speaker 1: she's kind of like nameless, faceless just picking up the calls.

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Speaker 1: But she is still there. Yes, and she loves each

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Speaker 1: and every one of you, and so do I. And

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Speaker 1: we love Kim too. So, okay, you have this idea,

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Speaker 1: and do you want to share the idea with us

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00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: or do you want to just talk in in abstract here?

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Speaker 1: And what do you want to do with this idea?

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00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 4: Abstract? And I don't mind emailing it to you when

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Speaker 4: it gets because you know, you have to write a

1031
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 4: venture capitalist and get a pro prototype video. But I

1032
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Speaker 4: do have you know, I have a disability myself, and

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00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 4: at some point I'm going to probably have to use

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Speaker 4: some kind of form of AI just because.

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Speaker 1: Well you know, we all will. It's taken over like

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Speaker 1: fifty percent of our jobs. So no matter what. Now

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Speaker 1: is this saying, is this an app related to a

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Speaker 1: disability kind of functionality or.

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Speaker 7: What it's It's not?

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Speaker 4: Uh not? I mean it it's going to help people

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00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: with disability. Well okay, like a disability centered app.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but that's that's helpful enough. So that's great.

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00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. So and I wrote down I having a braille

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00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 4: actually before I have it, and spraying because I keep

1045
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Speaker 4: adding stuff and then I keep deleating.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, of course, like any good it's evolving.

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00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, but I you know, want to make sure

1048
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 4: I can get it in the right hand, find the

1049
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 4: proper I know I have to get a proto type video.

1050
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 4: I know it has to take one step at a time,

1051
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: because if I think of it all in one totality,

1052
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: I get one big picture. I get really over oil.

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Speaker 1: And we know from watching Shark Tank that good ideas

1054
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: take a long time to develop. Sometimes it could take

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00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: years and nothing happens overnight. That's that's good, So we

1056
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Speaker 1: have to keep that in mind. It's a very long

1057
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: process no matter what, even if you have a hit

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Speaker 1: on your hands, you know, overnight sensations take a long time.

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00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: So I think it sounds like this is something that

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00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: you may want to get some resources that are maybe

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00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: free or some people to help you along with this.

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00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: I feel like in this community there are resources that

1063
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Speaker 1: you can get and that may involve some programs that

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Speaker 1: can help guide you along with this process, or maybe

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Speaker 1: some even fun scholarships, you know, grants, all those types

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Speaker 1: of things. And so have you told anyone about this,

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Speaker 1: Like how far along are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm just in the writing process. I did find a

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Speaker 4: promising video, like because I'm figuring, I'm just looking up

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Speaker 4: with Timbo the app is on our phones and do

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Speaker 4: a little prototype by the way, somebody.

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Speaker 2: Will really understand it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well there's a and by the way, one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite tools right now is Canva. Have you heard

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Speaker 1: of that U c A, n v A, Yeah, Canva

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00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: dot com, So you can you can create really cool

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00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: videos on that and you may be able to kind

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Speaker 1: of get your little sizzle real going through there. So

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Speaker 1: that's a good way of going about it. But I

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Speaker 1: would look, you know, it sounds like you're gonna need

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Speaker 1: to get some assistance with this, and that could be

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Speaker 1: through you know, a program in your area or you know,

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00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: even I mean, obviously there's freelancers that you can hire

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Speaker 1: to kind of code something maybe rudimentary on like Fiver

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00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: or something like that. But it doesn't sound like you're

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00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: going to code this yourself, if I'm understanding. So it

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00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: sounds like you're gonna have to pair up with someone

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00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: at some point that knows a little bit more about

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00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: the inner workings and the VC stuff and all that.

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00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: That may come a little bit later after you have

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00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: something that's a little bit further along, or you can

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00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: just go ahead and pitch it and maybe find some

1093
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: local vcs in the LA where you West Covina area.

1094
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: That may you know, that may do small you know

1095
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: projects like this that may become bigger over time. But

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00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: no matter what, it's it's a very slow process. It's

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00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: a methodical process, and it's like anything else. You're going

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00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: to talk to a lot of people, a lot of

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00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: people are going to say they can help you. Maybe

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00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: one percent of those people actually will, and a lot

1101
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: of the resources you look at will turn out to

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00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: be dead ends and things that just don't work. But

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00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: you just got to keep on it. And just from

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Speaker 1: hearing what you're telling me in the past couple of minutes,

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Speaker 1: I think it sounds like you have something pretty unique

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00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: and something that can help a unique community as well

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Speaker 1: and maybe community at large. So stick with it, stay

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00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: on it, and just slowly but surely build up that

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00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: app and the resources around it, and just just stay

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Speaker 1: on it. Because I'm excited for you, Elena, I really am.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for giving me a call today. Coming up, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk oh one of my favorite topics, the

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Speaker 1: dues and don'ts of combining work and play when traveling.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to rich on Tech. We'll come right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking

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Speaker 1: technology with you and a great topic right now for

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Speaker 1: my next guest. Alexandra Samuel is the author of Remote Inc.

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Speaker 1: How to Thrive at Work Wherever you are. Alexandra, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. Nice to join you, Thanks for being

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Speaker 1: here today. And I saw your article in the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal about the does and don'ts of combining work

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Speaker 1: and play when traveling, and it really resonated with me

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Speaker 1: because you know, I've got kids, I've got work, I travel,

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Speaker 1: and of course we're all learning this whole working on

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Speaker 1: vacation kind of thing. But I have one quick story

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Speaker 1: I want to tell before we get into this. Okay,

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00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: you ready. So I was on spring break. This was many,

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Speaker 1: many years ago. This was probably ten years ago, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I was just starting at my TV job

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Speaker 1: and I was so excited to take my first like

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00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: nice vacation and I had my mom there and my

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Speaker 1: wife and my kid. I just had a baby, and

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Speaker 1: it was great. But I said, I'm turning off my

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Speaker 1: phone the entire trip because I am going to disconnect.

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Speaker 1: And I literally turned off my phone. I'm a tech person,

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Speaker 1: I cover technology. Okay, long story short. When I turn

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Speaker 1: on my phone on Sunday when I was returning to work.

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Speaker 1: The next day, I got like ten emails for a

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00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: solid freelance job that was paying a decent amount of money,

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00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: by the way, and they were like, Okay, I guess

1141
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: we're not hearing from you, so we're going to have

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00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: to move on. And I called them up. I convinced

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00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 1: them to give me the job. I said, I'm sorry,

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00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: and I explained the whole thing. But I almost lost

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00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: a job that was worth a lot of money. And

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00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: by the way, that job continued for like three more years.

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Speaker 1: So my point is, I never turn off my phone anymore,

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00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: although I do try to limit my use of it.

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00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: So that was my story. So I've learned kind of

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00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: like this little balance, but I still don't think I

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00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: have it right. So that's why I'm talking to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so your first tip is to be clear whether it's

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Speaker 1: a vacation or business trip. So explain that.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's funny, I actually learned that lesson in

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00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 6: California because when my husband and I used to run

1157
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 6: a business together, and when our business was new and

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00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 6: and our eldest was very young, just a toddler, we

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00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 6: had this brilliant idea that since we had a number

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Speaker 6: of clients and a number of prospective clients in the

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Speaker 6: Bay Area. We would take our family vacation in San Francisco,

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Speaker 6: and so we found a house for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 6: and we took our kid, and we found, you know,

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Speaker 6: a local babysitter who could look after our kid in there,

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00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 6: and we just kind of went in this lucy goosey

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Speaker 6: way with the kind of you know, made a couple

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Speaker 6: of meetings with clients and figured we would kind of

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Speaker 6: hustle when we got there, and you know, the whole

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Speaker 6: time we were there, we just felt like we were

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Speaker 6: being pulled because on the one hand, we wanted to

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Speaker 6: make the most of this opportunity to book all the

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Speaker 6: meetings possible, and on the other hand, you know, we

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00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 6: wanted to take our kids to the zoo, we wanted

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Speaker 6: to go to the Money Aquarium, like all the things

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Speaker 6: you want to do when you're on vacation with your

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00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 6: little toddler for the first time. And so the whole

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Speaker 6: trip just felt like a constant hug of war. And

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Speaker 6: after that, you know, we got a lot clearer that

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Speaker 6: even though one of the joys of running your own

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Speaker 6: business is the opportunity to you know, include your family,

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Speaker 6: and travel include some work. When you have a family trip,

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Speaker 6: you really want to be clear on what your primary

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00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 6: purpose is in any given circumstance, because that gives you

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00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 6: a lens of focus in a way of making decisions

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Speaker 6: about how you're going to spend your time.

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Speaker 1: Very very smart. Now, this is the one, the tip

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Speaker 1: that I sort of resonated, you know, because of that

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: story I just told, but says, don't pressure yourself to

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Speaker 1: stay offline for a multi week vacation. And my wife

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Speaker 1: and I were talking about this. She said, yeah, when

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Speaker 1: my dad, you know, when we would go on vacation

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Speaker 1: as a kid, my dad and mom would spend one

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Speaker 1: hour each morning on their computers doing work and then

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Speaker 1: that was it. So what is your advice when it

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Speaker 1: comes to sort of that balance when you know you

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00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: do have a job, you do have emails that are

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Speaker 1: coming in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and I think your your story is

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Speaker 6: really relatable. And you know, I personally do not find

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Speaker 6: it relaxing to turn my phone off for a week

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Speaker 6: because I'm worried about what I'm missing. Now, if you

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 6: have the luxury of an assistant, or if you have

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00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 6: somebody you can deputize in your absence and who you're

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00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 6: comfortable giving full access to your email. Then you know, honestly,

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00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 6: the best of those worlds is create a vacation specific

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 6: secret email address you only give to your assistant, and

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00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 6: set up your primary email to go to your assistant

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Speaker 6: so that they look at anything that's coming in and

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00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 6: they only show you the stuff that you know, like

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Speaker 6: your your freelance gig, you know, only show you the

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Speaker 6: stuff that's really important. If you don't have an assistant,

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01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 6: you can kind of do the same thing with a

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Speaker 6: second mailbox and some mail rules. So for example, when

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Speaker 6: I went on vacation last summer, I set up a

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Speaker 6: rule that said, if I get a speaking invitation, forward

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Speaker 6: that to my vacation inbox, but don't forward anything else.

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01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 6: And so you know, you can find a way of

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Speaker 6: triaging so that only the stuff that you would really

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01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 6: be sorry to miss hits your inbox. But if you're

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Speaker 6: going to worry about it, it's better to make a

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01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 6: half an hour an hour in the morning or in

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Speaker 6: the evening so that you know you're going to look

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Speaker 6: every day. And then the trick is to pick that

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Speaker 6: for a time when you really will be able to

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Speaker 6: close your computer afterwards and either like go off and

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Speaker 6: have a great day or go to sleep. If you

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Speaker 6: know that once you look and you see that that

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Speaker 6: client is upset about something, you're gonna frint all day.

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Speaker 6: That's that's not a recipe for a great vacation.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Your next tip, by the way, my guest right

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Speaker 1: now is Alexander Samuel. She is the author are of

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Speaker 1: Remote ink Cata Thrive at work wherever you are. And

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Speaker 1: your next tip is don't read business books on vacation.

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Speaker 1: So get your book, but don't read it on your

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Speaker 1: trip to the tropics.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm always amazed when when you go on

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Speaker 6: a vacation. You know, we were in Hawaii in the

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Speaker 6: summer and you know, somebody's floating in the pool reading.

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Speaker 6: I forget what this has looked, but I'm thinking, how

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01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 6: is that relaxing? And mean, I guess everybody has their jam,

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Speaker 6: but you know, you really, if you're taking a vacation

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01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 6: to recharge, you actually need to give yourself the space

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01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 6: to unwind. And I can even make a business case

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01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 6: for that, right, which is part of the value of

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01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 6: you know, there's the reason so many of us get

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01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 6: our burst inspiration in the shower, right, It's like when

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01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 6: you take your attention off of a focused task and

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01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 6: you give yourself the space to kind of freewheel a bit,

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01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 6: that's when inspiration strikes. And vacation is kind of like

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01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 6: that in overdrive. You need to let your brain unwind

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01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 6: and reset so that you have the opportunity to, you know,

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01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 6: come back to your work with a fresh perspective. And

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 6: if you don't really turn your work brain off the

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Speaker 6: whole time you're on vacation, you don't get that reboot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with that. And it's so interesting

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01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: about how and when creativity sort of or inspiration hits.

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01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: It is always at the time when you are fully

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: not thinking about coming up with an idea or coming

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01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: up with a solution to something, and it just pops

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Speaker 1: into your head. That's not we're not new saying that,

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: but it's just so fascinating because now doing a weekly

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Speaker 1: radio show, I do this thing in the beginning of

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01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: the show where I kind of talk about something. If

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01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: I want to think about what I want to talk about,

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Speaker 1: it never comes to me, But all of a sudden,

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01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, it's like, oh, it

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Speaker 1: just came to me because my brain is just like

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Speaker 1: it gives it that downtime to sort of process stuff

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Speaker 1: in the background. I guess that's the way I see it.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's funny you say that, because I that's

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Speaker 6: always been my experience. And I will say, this is

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Speaker 6: one of the things where the amount of time I'm

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01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 6: now spending, you know, working with AI is really starting

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01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 6: to shift my thinking process because I now often use

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01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 6: chat GBT, you know, which is the sort of you know,

1277
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 6: really shockingly human like chat interface as a brainstorming partner,

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01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 6: and I can riff with that and it will shape

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01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 6: things loose in a way that I would not be

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01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 6: able to get to on my own without you know,

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Speaker 6: stepping away from the computer.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that idea. I mean, we talked about

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Speaker 1: AI on this show so much now because by the way,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's consumed the entire tech world. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: for a reason. It is so fascinating the stuff that

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Speaker 1: you can throw at it and just the stuff that

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Speaker 1: comes back with you're like wow, like I you know,

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Speaker 1: you we don't even know that there's no instruction book

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Speaker 1: for chat GPT, and yet we're finding so many uses

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Speaker 1: for it, and Google Bard and Microsoft's being AI is

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Speaker 1: really phenomenal. Okay, this one in your article in the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal the see the dos and don'ts of

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Speaker 1: combining work and play when traveling, you say, don't broadcast

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Speaker 1: your travels on social media. Now, this is kind of

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Speaker 1: like now you're getting into like hold on now, because

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Speaker 1: people really might offense to that one well.

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Speaker 6: And it's funny because, of course, so many people use

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Speaker 6: social media to kind of show off their travels and

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Speaker 6: share their travels, and I love that. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 6: I often will compile a photo book after a family

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Speaker 6: vacation just off of what we've posted on social media.

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Speaker 6: It's a it's a great way of remembering what you've done.

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Speaker 6: But you know, there's a couple of problems with that.

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Speaker 6: One is that, you know, when I've done a couple

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Speaker 6: of pieces now around social media and be including a

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Speaker 6: pretty big survey, and it's very clear that all those

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Speaker 6: travel photos may make you feel pretty special, but they

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Speaker 6: can make other people feel pretty lousy. And you know,

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Speaker 6: that's just it's just tough, right when you're sitting grinding

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Speaker 6: away at your desk to see your friend on the beach.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, most people are bragging when they're pressing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. But but the other thing about it that I

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Speaker 6: think is tricky when you're combining work and personal time

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Speaker 6: is you know, if you're on a three day or

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Speaker 6: a four day business trip and you've got you know,

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Speaker 6: one day to yourself, maybe you're not even a day,

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Speaker 6: maybe you've got a couple of evenings free. You know,

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Speaker 6: if you you are in a city where you know

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Speaker 6: a lot of people and you've posted about being there,

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Speaker 6: those folks are going to be insulted if you didn't

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Speaker 6: make time for them. And that I think is, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's one of those situations where it's just better to

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Speaker 6: be on a quieter mode and not hurt people's feelings.

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Speaker 6: And you know, unless there's a specific reason that you

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Speaker 6: need to share that you're there, Like maybe you know

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Speaker 6: my case, I'm often in town to give a talk,

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Speaker 6: and part of my responsibilities as a speaker is to

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Speaker 6: publicize the event that I'm at. But unless you have

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Speaker 6: a specific reason that you need to share your whereabouts,

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Speaker 6: then all you're really doing is essentially sending your friends

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Speaker 6: a message saying, you know, hey, I was in town,

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Speaker 6: but I didn't care.

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Speaker 5: Enough to call.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that happens whenever I post being in any city,

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Speaker 1: I get, you know, immediately the pings, Hey you're here,

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Speaker 1: you're here, let's hang out. And of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you're on business you don't really have the time,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I get it, but very very tricky.

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Speaker 1: Social media has added a new element of trickiness to

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Speaker 1: our lives. Samuel, we're going to leave it there. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for inviting me.

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Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. We're going to put your book

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Speaker 1: on my website. Rich on Tech dot TV if you

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Speaker 1: want to read more about the dos and don'ts of

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Speaker 1: combining work and play when traveling. You're listening to Rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech, give you a call Triple eight rich one

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Speaker 1: O one eighty eight seven four to two, four to

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Speaker 1: one zero one. More rich on Tech coming up right

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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to Rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro

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Speaker 1: here talking technology at Triple eight Rich one on one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one

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Speaker 1: zero one. Marie is in Hysperia, California. Marie, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Rich.

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Speaker 8: Hi, Rich, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 8: Well, I was listening to Tim Conway the other day,

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Speaker 8: and he said that he heard that one should not

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Speaker 8: bad mouth AI, and that it could be more deadly

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Speaker 8: and destruct the nuclear warfare, and that in three seconds

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Speaker 8: they can they could shut down all of your utilities,

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Speaker 8: use your wife's voice or someone's voice to call the

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Speaker 8: police saying that you are threatening with weapons. The cops

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Speaker 8: can come and shoot you. Could you talk about that?

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Speaker 1: Wow, he paints a dark picture.

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Speaker 8: It may really freaked me out.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I think I think that there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of thought about AI and the good and the bad

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Speaker 1: of AI. So we're not there just yet to exactly

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Speaker 1: what he's talking about. But I think that there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of things we need to be concerned about

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Speaker 1: with AI. And I talk a lot about the benefits

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Speaker 1: of AI, but there are many many potential dangers of AI,

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Speaker 1: And to get an answer, I think it's best to

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Speaker 1: ask AI what is the dangers of it? And so

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Speaker 1: I've got access to Google, Bard and chat EPT and

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Speaker 1: let's just talk about some of these dangers associated with AI.

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Speaker 1: Job loss. Yeah, we're going to see jobs replaced by AI.

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Speaker 1: Now in the beginning, it's going to be portions of

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Speaker 1: jobs that are replaced by AI. For now, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be up to fifty percent of job. You know,

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Speaker 1: a fifty percent of someone's job is going to be

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Speaker 1: replaced by AI, and then eventually there will be entire

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Speaker 1: jobs replaced by AI. I'm very confident of that because

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Speaker 1: there is so much that AI can do right now

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Speaker 1: that when it gets better and built into more things,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be incredible. And one of those things

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Speaker 1: right now, when you just think of something as simple

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Speaker 1: as a phone tree, when you call a company, it's horrific.

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Speaker 1: When you're trying to say when they say, you know,

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Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about why you're calling. It

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Speaker 1: never works right, It's horrible. But when AI gets involved,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot better. Ordering at a

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Speaker 1: fast food restaurant, I mean, when it can understand exactly

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Speaker 1: what you're saying and ask to follow up question if

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Speaker 1: you want a medium large cheese on that whatever, that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a potential. So it's going to start

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Speaker 1: with not just basic jobs, but also higher end jobs

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Speaker 1: as well, jobs that are creative. Give me a first

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Speaker 1: draft of this, give me a slideshow presentation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff can be taken over by AI. Another

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Speaker 1: dangerous discrimination because AI systems are trained on data that

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Speaker 1: humans create, and humans are discriminatory, and it may not

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Speaker 1: be something that we think about, but it's there. We

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Speaker 1: all bring our own biases to every situation we're in,

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Speaker 1: whether we like that or not, it's there. It's programmed

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Speaker 1: into our brains. And so these systems, because they're trained

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Speaker 1: by humans, will have some of those same biases and

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Speaker 1: discriminations built into them, and they will learn from this.

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Speaker 1: But they are also programmed by us, by humans, and

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Speaker 1: so that will take some time to get through. But

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Speaker 1: these things will have a certain level of discriminate. Now

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Speaker 1: that may not be the types of discrimination that you're

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Speaker 1: thinking about. It could be discrimination of data, it could

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Speaker 1: be of places, of things we just don't know. But

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Speaker 1: they will not be perfect systems. Let's put it that way. Privacy,

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Speaker 1: and this is all according to Google Bard by the

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Speaker 1: way AI systems can collect so much information about people now. Already,

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Speaker 1: marketing companies love all of the data that they collect

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Speaker 1: on us, but imagine when they put AI into the mix,

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Speaker 1: and AI can slice and dice that data in ways

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Speaker 1: that we have never seen possible before. It is going

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Speaker 1: to be really incredible for privacy. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: a problem let's put it that way. So right now,

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Speaker 1: let's say on your phone, if you go into like

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Speaker 1: the deep deep settings, it can show all the places

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Speaker 1: that you frequent. That's very basic. It's not even using

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Speaker 1: AI for that, it's just using kind of data analysis.

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Speaker 1: But when AI can kind of mix different types of data.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well, this is a gym he goes to,

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Speaker 1: and this is the workplace he goes, and this is

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Speaker 1: the fast food place he goes to the most. And

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Speaker 1: this is the restaurant he likes, and this is the

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Speaker 1: home that he visits the most beside his own. Those

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Speaker 1: are all potential privacy concerns, especially when these systems are

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Speaker 1: so simple to plug this information into safety. Now, this

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Speaker 1: is something that Marie you're kind of getting to, is

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Speaker 1: these weapons and not just weapons but systems. So right now,

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Speaker 1: we all have these smart speakers in our homes that

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Speaker 1: are always listening. What if they're programmed to listen for

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Speaker 1: potential conflict, for potential fights in our homes, for potential

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Speaker 1: problems in our homes, for people getting really irritated. What

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Speaker 1: if they're programmed to know how we're feeling. Oh, Rich

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Speaker 1: is really getting on edge here. We better get the

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Speaker 1: police on guard here, or actually, in fact, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: not even police. Maybe it's police robots. Let's send a

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Speaker 1: fleet of police drones to his house just to make

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Speaker 1: sure everything's okay. Or let's send a video camera to us.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are all things that it sounds unreal,

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Speaker 1: but we don't know. Now when it comes to war,

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Speaker 1: of course, they're already we're using autonomous weapons. Now maybe

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Speaker 1: those weapons are still controlled by someone, but they're still

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Speaker 1: flying by themselves and flying into places that we can't

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Speaker 1: typically fly into. But there's someone controlling it. Imagine when

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Speaker 1: they're not controlled by anyone and they're making their own

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Speaker 1: decisions and they are potentially killing people. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is just stuff that we don't really want to think

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Speaker 1: about this, but it's going to happen. And even Google

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Speaker 1: says this could lead to a new arms race between

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Speaker 1: countries and make war even more deadly. Now we've seen

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Speaker 1: that wars become in some ways more precise, you know,

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Speaker 1: these targets that we lock onto with these systems, But

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Speaker 1: it can also be the opposite. It can also be

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Speaker 1: much more deadly with systems. I mean, imagine a swarm

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Speaker 1: of tiny insects that someone has programmed to release mass destruction.

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Speaker 1: I mean, again, it sounds unreal, but it could be.

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Speaker 1: How about the loss of control as these systems become

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Speaker 1: more powerful, more powerful and learn from each other. Now

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Speaker 1: they start teaching each other how to do things that

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Speaker 1: we didn't teach them to do. And now they become

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously we've seen this in the movies over

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Speaker 1: and over, these systems turn against us. Hopefully that does

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Speaker 1: not happen, but we don't know because we've never had

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Speaker 1: such systems before. So maybe these systems become unpredictable, they

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Speaker 1: become dangerous. There's so many potentially dangerous aspects of AI

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Speaker 1: that we're not even privy to think about right now.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, all these systems that Google and

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Speaker 1: chat gptr are coming up with, they've built so many

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Speaker 1: guardrails into those systems. Imagine that these systems get into

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Speaker 1: the hands of the wrong people that don't want those guardrails,

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Speaker 1: that want them to do bad things like infect our

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Speaker 1: phones with malware, or take all of our data and

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Speaker 1: figure out our secrets from it, or take our browsing

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Speaker 1: data or our computer data, or get in there and

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Speaker 1: change things on our systems, or try to hack us.

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Speaker 1: There are so many implications of this technology. Again, I

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Speaker 1: talk about the good stuff, and I do want to

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Speaker 1: get an expert on this show to talk about some

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Speaker 1: of the dangers that we are going to face with AI.

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Speaker 1: Because this stuff is just at the beginning. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to Rich on Tech. We've got another hour of the

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Speaker 1: mentioned I've got linked up there. So I've been doing

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Speaker 1: a really good job of keeping notes about what I

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Speaker 1: talk about because I understand that you're not sitting there

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Speaker 1: with the pen and paper, pencil and paper. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're busy, You're on the move. And if I mentioned

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Speaker 1: something I'll put it in the show notes so you

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Speaker 1: can always see that later. Let's go to Deborah in

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Speaker 1: Santa Clarita. Debra, you're on with Rich Him Rich.

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to talk with you. I watch you

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Speaker 2: on kg LA every day.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you for doing that, and thanks for

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Speaker 1: calling in. How are you today?

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Speaker 2: I'm great? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Oh fantastic? But what can I help you with?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm on a fixed income and I'd like to

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Speaker 2: lower my cable bill, so I'd like to look into services,

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Speaker 2: streaming services that would provide me with the same kind

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Speaker 2: of the same that I'm getting through cable. I don't

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Speaker 2: have any premium channels like Showtime or HBO. I do

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Speaker 2: have Netflix, and that's all. But I'd like to eliminate

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Speaker 2: cable altogether.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And you have questions, Well, I guess my first

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Speaker 1: question is what what do you watch?

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Speaker 2: I watch regular TV like, I like Channel five. I

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Speaker 2: watch Channel seven every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: I won't hold that against.

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Speaker 2: And the Learning Channel, and I like National Geographic.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so bravo Learning Channel, National Geographic. So I guess

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Speaker 1: the main thing is that if you're looking to, you know,

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Speaker 1: to spend less on cable, which I understand how much

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Speaker 1: you pay.

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Speaker 2: Right now, two hundred and fifteen dollars, but that includes internet.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's a lot. And here's the thing, so

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Speaker 1: you can definitely cut that down to just your Internet

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Speaker 1: and still get a lot of this stuff. The thing is,

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Speaker 1: unless you're willing to pay for some of these services

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Speaker 1: on their own, then it's going to be tricky. So

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Speaker 1: you said Bravo, you said National Geographic and what was

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Speaker 1: the second one.

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Speaker 2: Channel?

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Speaker 1: Learning channel? Okay, learning? So that's TLC, right, learning channel. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I didn't I didn't hear a lot of sports,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing because sports is where it

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Speaker 1: gets really expensive. That's where you're going to pay the premium,

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Speaker 1: and that's where cable comes into play, and that's where

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Speaker 1: a lot of these streaming services that are like a

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Speaker 1: YouTube TV come into play. So for the local stuff,

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Speaker 1: the good news is that KTLA has a free app

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Speaker 1: that will get you that local channel, so that's nice.

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Speaker 1: ABC I believe you can get some of their programming,

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Speaker 1: including their newscasts and things like through their app, so

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Speaker 1: that might work. The other thing is that there are

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Speaker 1: some really inexpensive service that give you some of these channels,

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Speaker 1: and there's a service called Friendly TV, which is have

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Speaker 1: you heard of that one?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: I haven't, Okay, So that's a really inexpensive TV service

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Speaker 1: that's like seven dollars a month with that gives you

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Speaker 1: forty channels. And so some of those channels include A

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Speaker 1: and E, Hallmark Channel, History, Lifetime, let's see what else,

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Speaker 1: Weather Channel, FYI. I'm trying to see if some of

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Speaker 1: the channels you mentioned around their Bravo I know is NBC,

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Speaker 1: so that one might be a little tricky to get.

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Speaker 1: Let's see National Geographic. So the other thing you can

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Speaker 1: look into is, I know, Discovery has Discovery Plus, which

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Speaker 1: will give you a whole bunch of channels with a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff, and that's not too expensive either. That's

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Speaker 1: planned starting at five dollars a month, and that gives

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Speaker 1: you a whole bunch of channels including HGTV, Food Network,

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Speaker 1: TLC is on there. That's one that you mentioned. Let's

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Speaker 1: see National Geographic that is not on there. They may

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Speaker 1: have their own, but the bottom line is that, look,

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Speaker 1: you can get this bill way down I would say,

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Speaker 1: under one hundred dollars a month. So don't forget when

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Speaker 1: you when you sort of take out that bundle. They're

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Speaker 1: going to probably try to charge you more for your internet.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how much you're paying for your internet

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Speaker 1: right now for okay, So, and that's through Spectrum guessing.

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Speaker 2: No, that's through ATT verse.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's through Uverse. Oh interesting, So you verse through

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01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: AT and T is something that they're really not promoting anymore,

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Speaker 1: so you may have to They may try to get

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Speaker 1: you to go to like AT and T Fiber or

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Speaker 1: something like that. But okay, so a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: These are my recommendations. Okay, So first off, I would

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Speaker 1: say what I would do is look into all of

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Speaker 1: your options. Take a fresh look at your options for internet.

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Speaker 1: So where you live in Santa Clarita, there may be

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Speaker 1: a company that does internet that's not AT and T.

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Speaker 1: So I would look at a website called whistle out

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01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: and you can type in your zip code and it

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01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: will tell you the internet plans in your area. So

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: you can put in your street address and that will

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01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: look at things like Verizon, AT and T Spectrum and

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01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: also companies like T Mobile and Verizon now have wireless

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Speaker 1: internet that's served over five G and so you can

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Speaker 1: look into that. And right now, those providers are giving

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Speaker 1: a really good deal, like t Mobiles fifty bucks a month.

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Speaker 1: Verizon I think is as low as twenty five dollars

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Speaker 1: a month, depending on who you have for your wireless carrier.

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Speaker 1: But I would look into those, and then i'd also

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Speaker 1: look into the cable company in your area that offers

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Speaker 1: Internet and see if they're cheaper, because now that you're

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Speaker 1: getting Internet by itself, they may try to charge you

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. I'd look into getting a streaming stick,

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Speaker 1: so I'd probably recommend either a Roku or an Amazon

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Speaker 1: streaming stick, and then I would start to layer on

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Speaker 1: these services you mentioned. You already have Netflix. Netflix has

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Speaker 1: an ad supported plan, so you may want to downgrade

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Speaker 1: to that plan, which is six ninety nine a month,

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Speaker 1: and that's going to have ads. And if you're really

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Speaker 1: trying to save money, think that you're gonna have to

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01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: start watching ads on some of these services. Free ads

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Speaker 1: supporting streaming services, it's called they call them fast free

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: ad supported streaming television services. That's the fastest growing streaming

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Speaker 1: services out there right now. Why because everything has gone

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01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: up in price lately, and so people are very cost

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01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: conscious right now. So if you can get free streaming TV.

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Speaker 1: Why would you not. And we're used to ads on TV,

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Speaker 1: so it's not that big of a leap to say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'll watch these shows with a little

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Speaker 1: bit of ads, and so I would look into those

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Speaker 1: services as well. So Roku has what's called the Roku

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Speaker 1: Channel with a whole bunch of free stuff on there

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01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 1: that has ads. Two b TV they have a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of free stuff. They are owned by Fox, so

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01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: they have a whole bunch of Fox shows on there

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01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 1: as well. Pluto TV this is the one that started

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Speaker 1: at all. They're owned by Paramount. They have a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of channels that you can watch completely free. One

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Speaker 1: of my favorites is the Johnny Carson Channel. They have

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Speaker 1: a channel that just literally shows Johnny cars and all

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Speaker 1: day long. And they have a whole bunch of channels

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01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: like that. Monsters, all these things. Some of it's old,

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Speaker 1: some of it's new. Amazon Free V they are owned

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01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: by Amazon obviously, and they have a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: stuff on there that's free. Crackle used to be owned

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Speaker 1: by Sony. I'm not sure they are anymore, but they

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01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: have a whole bunch of free stuff, ad supported Zoomo Xumo.

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01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: They're owned by Comcasts, so they have a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of that Comcast programming on there. And then Peacock they

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01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: have I don't know if they're still offering the AD

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01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 1: supported free version, but they have an AD supported plan

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01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: that you may have to pay a little bit for.

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01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: But they have a bunch of the NBC shows. Sling

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Speaker 1: just started. THEIRS. Let me see what this is called.

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01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: Sling is called free stream fr E E S T

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01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: R E A M. They have a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: stuff on there for free. And let's see I'm missing

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Speaker 1: any big ones. I think that's about it. There may

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Speaker 1: be some others that I'm missing, but I'd look into that.

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01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: And i'd also look into so the things that you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: like National Geographic, I would see I would type that

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01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 1: in and type in streaming and see what their streaming

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01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: service is. So national Geographic, it looks like you'd have

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01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: to get Hulu to get national geographic shows streaming on there.

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01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: And Hulu has AD supported plans that are inexpensive as well. Bravo,

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01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: let's see Bravo streaming. I'm not sure what they're going

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Speaker 1: to be on. They are going to be on oh, Peacock,

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01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: so you'd have to go with Peacock. So anyway, as

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01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: you can see, it's kind of like a little puzzle.

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01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: So Deborah, you can do this. You can definitely lower

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Speaker 1: your plan. I think the main thing is getting that

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Speaker 1: streaming stick, getting the Internet at a pretty good cost,

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01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: and then signing up for just a couple of these

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Speaker 1: services that I think will give you the programming that

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Speaker 1: you want. So good luck and thanks for watching on KTLA.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And by the way, KTLA this

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Speaker 1: week I should mention this. We are now on YouTube

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01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: TV and also streaming on Hulu, so this was a

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Speaker 1: big thing if you're in the LA area. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people did not have access to KTLA streaming on

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Speaker 1: one of these paid services like a YouTube TV or

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01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: a Hulu, and now we are on there. So if

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Speaker 1: you are a subscriber to Hulu or YouTube TV and

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01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: you're paying for that streaming service, check it out. KTLA

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01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: is now on there. You may have to go into

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Speaker 1: your settings to find the channel. Onmine, it was hidden

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01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: for some reason, but it's there, and so if you're

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01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: paying for that, it's definitely a channel that you want

1684
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: to check out because of course I'm a little biased,

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01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: but I think it's one of the better offerings. And

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01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: of course with YouTube TV and even Hulu, they also

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01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: have the DVR functionality, So I personally would ask you

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Speaker 1: to DVR my segment which airs at five am, seven AM,

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Speaker 1: and nine am, So go ahead and set those DVRs

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Speaker 1: for those segments. But again, if you're a subscriber, that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good thing, all right. Coming up next, we're

1692
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: going to talk about Amazon's warning on some of it's

1693
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: frequently returned products, so we'll tell you about that. Plus

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you the app that I used

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Speaker 1: to trick everyone on my Instagram today to convert a

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Speaker 1: car into something very different. I'll tell you about the

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Speaker 1: AI scenes you can do on that and the AI car,

1698
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: so if you're into cars, it's kind of fun. And

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Speaker 1: then coming up, we're going to talk to the founder

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01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: of an app that will help you keep track of

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Speaker 1: your flights during this spring break travel season. Plus, your

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Speaker 1: call is a triple eight rich one on one eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four to one zero one.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out and Uh,

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Speaker 1: producer Aaron doing great on the music today. Thank you

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Speaker 1: really get me going today. Okay, So I'm going to

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Speaker 1: tell you about a little trick I did on my

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Speaker 1: Instagram followers at rich On Tech today. So, uh, I,

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Speaker 1: if you look at my stories, I said that I

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Speaker 1: traded in my EV for something more prac to call

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Speaker 1: and it's like an old school car that I had,

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Speaker 1: or like a classic car. So I did this because

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Speaker 1: of the whole debate about AI and also you know

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Speaker 1: April Fools and all that stuff. But the reality is,

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you about the app I use

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Speaker 1: to create this because I've been playing with it and

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Speaker 1: it's pretty phenomenal. It's called photo Leap, and it's one

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Speaker 1: of these AI apps that just does a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And so they added a couple of new things that

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Speaker 1: are that are really cool that I want to tell

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Speaker 1: you about. So the first is called AI Scenes and

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Speaker 1: this is on iOS and Android, and this lets you

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Speaker 1: upload a photo of your house or a landmark or

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Speaker 1: a street and it's converted into sort of a fun

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Speaker 1: and creative image, like you know, you can do apocalyptic,

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Speaker 1: you can do fantasy, you can do candy, you can

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Speaker 1: do cartoon, so it's just kind of a fun little

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Speaker 1: feature that is just shows off the power of AI.

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Speaker 1: So it's transforming the entire scene into something completely different.

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Speaker 1: So if you have a cool like picture that you've

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Speaker 1: taken of a scene or something like you know that

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Speaker 1: your street or any really anything that's you know, it

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Speaker 1: works best with like scenery like a street. You can

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Speaker 1: convert that into all kinds of stuff. And right now,

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Speaker 1: I just took a picture I took an Arizona of

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Speaker 1: some cactus and it's just it's just amazing. It like

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Speaker 1: changed it into an abandoned area. They've got snowed in,

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Speaker 1: so you can see it transformed into a snowy So

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Speaker 1: I'm in Arizona and it made it look like it's

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Speaker 1: a snowed in area. It's it's just incredible what these

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Speaker 1: AI apps can do. And again in such short time.

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Speaker 1: This stuff has not been around that long and we're

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Speaker 1: seeing these tools or just leapfrogging every couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: into something much much more.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 1: The feature that I used is called AI Cars and

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Speaker 1: this is only available on the iOS version of the app.

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Speaker 1: It's a very specific situation because you have to have

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Speaker 1: a picture of you in front of a car or

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Speaker 1: just any old car, and it will use AI to

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Speaker 1: change that car into something else. So this uses analyze

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Speaker 1: the photo, it recognizes the car and then enables you

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Speaker 1: to activate a filter to change that car into several presets,

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Speaker 1: which can be luxury. Hold on, I'm changing it right now,

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Speaker 1: so I'm seeing it, says, preparing to pimp your ride.

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Speaker 1: So I'm changing this car that I took a picture

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Speaker 1: of into Oh wow, interesting, I think this looked too

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Speaker 1: luxury because it didn't change it into anything. It's got

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Speaker 1: off road, sport, electric, vintage, classic Americana icons, concept, and rusty,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't like any of those, you can

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Speaker 1: actually just type in to the AI engine. Oh interesting,

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Speaker 1: it's not working on this car, so it doesn't like

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Speaker 1: this car by itself. Apparently you have to be with

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Speaker 1: the car, so if you have a picture of yourself

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Speaker 1: with the car, that works better. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to see what I did with it, you can go

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Speaker 1: to my Instagram at rich on Tech, click my stories

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Speaker 1: and you can see how good this did of converting

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Speaker 1: this car that I took a picture of. I did

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Speaker 1: it first with the vintage car. Then I did kind

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Speaker 1: of a RUSTI ol car. Then I did a futuristic

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Speaker 1: sports car, then I did a classic car, then I

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Speaker 1: did a truck, and I said, final, I'll help you

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Speaker 1: move your couch because we have a truck. For some reason,

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Speaker 1: you are the unofficial couch mover of all of your friends. Hey,

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Speaker 1: can you come over and just just really quick. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be super easy. It's always super easy to

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Speaker 1: move someone's couch anyway. This is the first mobile consumer

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Speaker 1: editing tool to combine stable diffusion, proprietary segmentation engines, which

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Speaker 1: means it's actually separating that car from the rest of

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Speaker 1: the image, and a new control net layer. And this

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Speaker 1: was a new open source tech released by computer scientists

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Speaker 1: at Stanford University. So it's combining three different AI generative

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Speaker 1: art capabilities. And there's much more inside this app. You

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Speaker 1: can do AI avatars, AI pets, AI couples, So there

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Speaker 1: is a lot in this app. Now some of it

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Speaker 1: does cost money because it's not free. There are some

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Speaker 1: features that are free. It also transformed you by the

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Speaker 1: way that Dungeons and Dragons movie that's coming out. They

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Speaker 1: can transform you into a Dungeons and Dragons character like

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Speaker 1: those avatars. We saw a couple months ago. Now they

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Speaker 1: can do those with dungeons and dragons. And I did

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Speaker 1: this for myself, and I don't know much about dungeons

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Speaker 1: and dragons, but it's I have those ears, you know,

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Speaker 1: like those funny looking years, and then I just you know,

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Speaker 1: it just looks like something out of who knows what

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Speaker 1: It's fun though, all right, so let me tell you

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Speaker 1: how much this costs. Some of this stuff is free.

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Speaker 1: Let's see pricing, pricing, pricing, so free features. You can

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Speaker 1: do the dungeons and dragons for free, basic use of

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Speaker 1: the photo and animation features, some of the instant edits

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Speaker 1: like changing the background, replacing the sky in fast filters,

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Speaker 1: and then some of the latest AI tools, the AI scenes,

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Speaker 1: the AI cars. That's all free to a certain limit.

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Speaker 1: And then if you really want to get unlimited access

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Speaker 1: to all this stuff and also no watermarks on the

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Speaker 1: stuff that you make, you're gonna have to pay. It

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Speaker 1: looks like it's six bucks a month or forty dollars

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Speaker 1: a year, so yes, not cheap. But I got to

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Speaker 1: say this photo leap app is probably one of the

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Speaker 1: more impressive apps that I've seen, so at the very least,

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Speaker 1: I would say download it and try it out, at

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Speaker 1: least try some of the free features and see what's

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Speaker 1: happening with it, because it's it's pretty cool. Okay, moving on,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you about Amazon. Starting on some product pages,

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Speaker 1: you're going to see a warning that says frequently returned item.

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Speaker 1: Check the product details and customer reviews to learn more

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Speaker 1: about this item. Basically, Amazon is trying to make people

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Speaker 1: a buy less stuff that they're going to return, and

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Speaker 1: also put these people that are selling this stuff on

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Speaker 1: a warning that says, hey, stop trying to sell people

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Speaker 1: stuff that they're returning because it costs money for all

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Speaker 1: of us. So they've made returns really easy, and Amazon

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Speaker 1: is very generous with its return policy, but still it

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Speaker 1: costs this company money. And when they're doing the volume

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Speaker 1: that Amazon's doing, even if they can affect one percent

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Speaker 1: of people returning stuff, that translates into big, big bucks

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Speaker 1: for them saved. So again, you might see a warning.

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Speaker 1: If you see that warning that says, hey, this has

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Speaker 1: returned a lot, you may want to think twice about

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Speaker 1: buying it. I know it's so easy to buy and

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Speaker 1: return stuff on Amazon, but it does cost a lot

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Speaker 1: of money to ship in all that stuff, all right,

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we are going to talk about an app

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Speaker 1: called Flighty. We're going to have the founder of this

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Speaker 1: app that is probably the most beautiful flight tracking app

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I've used it many times, and we'll

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Speaker 1: tell you all about how this came to be coming

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Speaker 1: up next. Welcome back to rich on Tech. I'm extremely

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Speaker 1: excited for this next segment because I love travel, I

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Speaker 1: love flying, and I love apps, So this kind of

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Speaker 1: combines all of my loves into one thing. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about an app called Flighty, and joining me now is

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Speaker 1: Ryan Jones. He is the founder of the app. Ryan,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, thanks for having me on rich All.

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Speaker 1: Right, so you have built an app that so many

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Speaker 1: people love. This Flighty app is basically, as you call it,

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Speaker 1: pilot grade flight tracking for everyone. So first off, I

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Speaker 1: just want to know tell me the story of why

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Speaker 1: you came up with this app.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, I was actually working on a previous app at

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Speaker 9: the time and had just left Apple, and I was

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Speaker 9: traveling with my ninety year old grandmother. We ended up

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Speaker 9: sitting in the chilis at the Fort Lauderdale Airport for

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Speaker 9: about three hours because a Jetboo plane was stuck in Chicago,

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Speaker 9: which of course has nothing to do with Fort Lauderdale.

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Speaker 9: But the thing that was frustrating me is I was

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Speaker 9: nerdy enough and into kind of flying and apps enough

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Speaker 9: that I knew all that data for me to know

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Speaker 9: this ahead of time was available, and I was just

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Speaker 9: not able to do all that research to see that

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Speaker 9: my plane was stuck there because I was driving. And

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Speaker 9: it was just so frustrating that I had known for

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Speaker 9: years that this could be done and nobody was doing it.

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Speaker 9: And that was the moment that I said, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 9: just going to go for it. Let's build this thing.

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Speaker 1: And so how many years ago was that?

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Speaker 9: That was New Year's Day, January first, twenty eighteen, So

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Speaker 9: we're about five years old.

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Speaker 1: Wow, five years old? Okay. And so this app, it's

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Speaker 1: called Flighty. It's available on iOS. It is a beautiful

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Speaker 1: flight tracking app. There's many ways to track flights, but

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Speaker 1: what this app does really well is not only import

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Speaker 1: your information from your calendar, but it presents more information

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Speaker 1: than you could ever imagine about your flight. So the

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Speaker 1: gate departure, the timing, but also stuff like the arrival forecast,

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Speaker 1: like the performance over the last sixty days where your

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Speaker 1: plane is, so it not only shows you where your

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Speaker 1: plane is, but all the cities that it's been to

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Speaker 1: before yours, the type of plane, so it looks up

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Speaker 1: the tail number and tells you, you know, the age

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Speaker 1: of the plane when it first took its flight, the

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Speaker 1: cruising speed, and then a detailed timeline and all kinds

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Speaker 1: of stuff that Ryan. Do you think most people even

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Speaker 1: realize any of this information is out there about their

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Speaker 1: flight except the time when it's taking off and landing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think so. You know, most people are

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Speaker 9: used to looking at the boards and the airport or

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Speaker 9: just googling it. And you know, the crazy thing is

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Speaker 9: all this is out there. You just have to do

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Speaker 9: the legwork and the hard work of combining it all.

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Speaker 9: And like you said, it all is. You know, we've

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Speaker 9: spent a lot of time making the app super user friendly.

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Speaker 9: We had one hundred pilots that used it and tested

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Speaker 9: the accuracy and the usability for us before we even

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Speaker 9: released it to everybody. So all that stuff is in there,

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Speaker 9: and it's just in one clean view that's one full page.

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Speaker 9: There's no you know, you don't have to navigate in

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Speaker 9: and out and go find things. But the even better

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Speaker 9: thing than that is, you know, we have I think

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Speaker 9: it's up to seventy five different types of push alerts now,

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Speaker 9: But if you don't even open the app, really, as

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Speaker 9: long as you type in you know AA one oh one,

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Speaker 9: so you've got American Airlines one oh one, we'll send

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Speaker 9: you a push alert if there's something you need to know,

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Speaker 9: you don't really have to even open the app.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think are some of the best

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Speaker 1: features of the app for the average user.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the one that we hear constantly is people being

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Speaker 9: able to predict delays. So, like you mentioned, uh, where

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Speaker 9: the plane is coming from is a thing that's really

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Speaker 9: present in the UI, and that's actually the number one

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Speaker 9: cause of delays if you look like kind of across

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Speaker 9: the whole world. Number two is weather, and then number

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Speaker 9: three is airspace problems. So airspace meaning like the air

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Speaker 9: traffic control needs to space everybody out around Chicago because

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Speaker 9: there's a storm or something like that. So we have

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Speaker 9: alerts for all three of those things. So we covered,

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Speaker 9: you know, the top three in terms of predicting delays,

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Speaker 9: So you can be let's say, sitting at home thinking

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Speaker 9: I got to go to the airport in two hours

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Speaker 9: and you'll get an alert that hey, your plane's in

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Speaker 9: Chicago and it's not taken off for three hours. So

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Speaker 9: being able to note ahead of time what's going to

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Speaker 9: happen is kind of a huge stress reliever for people,

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Speaker 9: even if you can't change your flight, but for a

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Speaker 9: lot of our kind of pro flyers as we like

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Speaker 9: to call them, they have ways to or they have

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Speaker 9: you know, status on an airline, and they can actually

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Speaker 9: change their flight. But even if you don't, just knowing

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Speaker 9: in advance what's going to happen is a massive stress reliever.

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Speaker 9: Just there's so many unknowns and so many things that

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Speaker 9: can go wrong with travel, but having a heads up

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Speaker 9: and being forewarned is super powerful.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite features of this app is the

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Speaker 1: flight log, and so when you first log into this app,

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Speaker 1: it's getting the information from what your calendar basically, that's correct.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Some competitive apps will get it from your email,

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Speaker 9: which requires you to give your email username and password,

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Speaker 9: and we don't really like the privacy aspect of that,

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Speaker 9: so we integrate with your calendar and we'll automatically pull

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Speaker 9: in any flight that shows up in your calendar, and

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Speaker 9: we do all that processing on your device. We never

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Speaker 9: send anything to the cloud that's privacy focused, and you

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Speaker 9: don't even have your username or a username with us,

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Speaker 9: so you're just anonymous to us. Everything's super private.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll pull in any flight that we find. We

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Speaker 9: can do upwards of about five hundred in a minute,

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Speaker 9: So you connect your calendar and we'll pull in five

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Speaker 9: hundred a thousand, as many flights as you have and

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Speaker 9: populate this flight log you're talking about for you automatically.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so for travel nerds like myself, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: like a real travel nerd. I'm like a basic travel

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Speaker 1: nerd that travels a couple times a year. But I

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Speaker 1: know there's when I traveled a ton for my job.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's people that are really into this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm like semi there. But it has this kind of

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Speaker 1: your passport. It's called the Flighty Passport, and it gives

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Speaker 1: you your stats for not only all time, but every year.

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Speaker 1: It's broken down that it can find information. So and

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Speaker 1: by the way, speaking of privacy, my name is even

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Speaker 1: on here so I can type in. It says add

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Speaker 1: your name, So I'm going to add my name to

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Speaker 1: my little flight passport here because it doesn't even know

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Speaker 1: that it's not pulling it from anywhere. So it says

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Speaker 1: that I've done five hundred and thirty one nine and

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Speaker 1: eighty four miles in my lifetime, twenty one point four

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Speaker 1: times around the world, three hundred and twenty seven flights,

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Speaker 1: forty six airports, twelve countries, fifty two days in the air.

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Speaker 1: And you can go through and literally scroll through all

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Speaker 1: of your past flights and when you're taking a flight,

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Speaker 1: it will show your history on that route. So I

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01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 1: fly back to Newark a lot because my family's from

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. It will show me how many times I've

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Speaker 1: been there. Now, these are things you don't necessarily need,

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Speaker 1: but it's really cool to have that if you're into flying.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and people really really love that feature, you know.

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Speaker 9: As usual, we see a lot of shares towards the

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Speaker 9: end of the year when people are doing kind of

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Speaker 9: that Spotify unwrapped and that end of year, here's what

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Speaker 9: I did for the year, and people will you know,

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Speaker 9: we automatically tally up those miles as you fly for

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Speaker 9: you and then put it in that really cool view

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Speaker 9: that you can share out to social.

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Speaker 5: Media and wherever.

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Speaker 9: And one thing we know, we didn't anticipate this at all,

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Speaker 9: but we have a lot of business travelers that will

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Speaker 9: use that for year end tax reports to know where

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Speaker 9: they were, what states, and what trips they took.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, the other thing that I used the other

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Speaker 1: day when I flew to I told a story about

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01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 1: how I thought I was going to Sedona the whole time,

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Speaker 1: but I ended up going to Phoenix and Scottsdale and anyway,

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01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: even though I was tracking all my stuff. But I

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01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 1: use the live share feature. So a lot of times

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01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 1: when you're picking someone up from the airport, or if

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01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 1: someone wants to know what flight you're on, like a

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01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: loved one, you can now use this to share it

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Speaker 1: with them, and even if they don't have the app,

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Speaker 1: it still works in the same beautiful way. Can you

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Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely. You know, we all have people in our lives

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01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 9: who are kind of reluctant to download apps or just

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01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 9: you know, don't really want another app at the moment,

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Speaker 9: and we you know, we're super focused on the user experience.

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Speaker 9: So what you can do is at any time. It

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Speaker 9: can be up to three hundred and sixty five days

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Speaker 9: in advance, or it can be when you're walking down

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Speaker 9: the jetway. There's a button on each flight that says

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01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 9: live Share and you can send just a private URL

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01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 9: to anyone, let's say your spouse or your part and

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01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 9: when they click that link, they'll see all the basic

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01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 9: fline information they need just in the normal Safari or

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01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 9: Chrome web browser. They don't have to download the app,

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01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 9: they don't have to interview, use their names, there's no ads,

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01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 9: there's nothing, so they can get like you said, arrival,

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01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 9: any sort of delays. They can see what time you're landing,

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01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 9: what time you are actually gonna arrive at the gate,

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01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 9: and then if they want, they can download the app,

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01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 9: but they don't have to, you know, they can use

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01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 9: just that web view right there and constantly see without

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Speaker 9: having to download anything.

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Speaker 1: All right. My guest is Ryan Jones, founder and CEO

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Speaker 1: at Flighty, which is an iOS app. Any plans for

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01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 1: Android at this point? I know this is a very

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01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: heavy iOS app, especially with the live activities, which you

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01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 1: are like one of the first to take advantage of,

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01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 1: so you see your flight tracking right on your home screen.

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Speaker 1: If you have a new iPhone, any plans for Android

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Speaker 1: at all?

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Speaker 9: You know, it's probably a year or two out.

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Speaker 5: For us.

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Speaker 9: We're just a team of three at the moment, we're

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Speaker 9: all self funded, trying to really do this from the

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Speaker 9: ground up in a sustainable way where we can have

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01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 9: you know, decades long, really healthy, kind of profitable business.

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Speaker 9: So at the moment, it's not on this.

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Speaker 1: Year's calendarly okay, And can you talk about the price

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01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: of the app, what you get for free versus when

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01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: you think someone should subscribe for the pro features?

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01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 9: Absolutely, So you get unlimited flights with live tracking for free.

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01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 9: Once you start getting into I want to do some

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01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 9: delay predictions, or I want to do the push alerts,

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01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 9: or we have a connection assistant so when you land

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01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 9: in let's say Sedona or that's a bad example, but

2053
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 9: you land in Denver and then you're connecting to New York,

2054
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 9: will tell you what gate you came from and what

2055
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 9: gate you need to go to. Those kind of pro

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01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 9: features are part of our flight e Pro, which is

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01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 9: five dollars a month or fifty dollars a year. And

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01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 9: you asked a great question, when do people need that?

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01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 9: So your first flight, we give you pro for free.

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01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 9: You don't have to sign up, you don't have to

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01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 9: do a trial or anything. It just everyone gets one

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01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 9: for free to see what it's like, and then if

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01:42:56,160 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 9: you want to upgrade pro later. It's we think tend

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01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,599
Speaker 9: to do that. If you track ten flights a year,

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01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 9: so maybe you fly on five or six and your

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01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 9: spouse or kids fly on another five to six, it's

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Speaker 9: probably we tend to see people upgrading around that ten

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Speaker 9: ten flights a year mark.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ryan Jones, We're gonna leave it there. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for talking about one of the most beautiful

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Speaker 1: flight tracking apps that I've ever seen. Flighty is the name.

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Speaker 1: I've put a link on my website rich on tech

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Speaker 1: dot TV. Ryan. Where are you headed next? Where's your

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Speaker 1: next flight?

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01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Where am I going next?

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01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 9: I'm actually going to uh Cooper Tino. So Apple has

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01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 9: the you know, Ilus seventeen releases. They just announced the

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01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,879
Speaker 9: date June fifth, so we've got all our flight schedules

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Speaker 9: for that.

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Speaker 1: Nice. I hope to see you up there. I don't

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01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: know if I have an invite just yet. I know

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01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 1: it's a small invited crowd, but we'll see. I was

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01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 1: there last year and it was a surprise, so I'm

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01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: looking forward to it this year. All right, Ryan Jones,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today. Thanks rich all right,

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Speaker 1: rich on tech dot TV, if you want a link

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01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: to try out Flighty before your next flight. It is

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01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 1: such a super cool app. All right, I might have

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Speaker 1: time for one more question. Coming back eighty eight Rich

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Speaker 1: one on one eight eight eight seven four to four

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Speaker 1: to one zero one. You are listening to rich On Tack. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on tech rich DeMuro here closing

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Speaker 1: out the hour, Let's go to Virgil in Durango, Colorado. Virgil,

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Speaker 1: you're on with Rich Hi.

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Speaker 7: Rich. The first thing is that I wanted to advise

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Speaker 7: you of is this past week, the Denver Police Department

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Speaker 7: announced that they were going to be implementing AI to

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01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 7: review all of the buddy cam footage of their officers.

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01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 7: They accumulate a vast amount of this, but nobody looks

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Speaker 7: at at all, and they only randomly check it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's wild. Yeah, that's I mean. See, there you go.

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Speaker 1: There's an example of a really interesting use of a

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Speaker 1: because humans are not going to scan through all that footage,

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Speaker 1: but for a computer to do it and in record time,

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Speaker 1: and to come up with all, hey, hey, here's ten

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Speaker 1: things that you should take another look at. That's really fascinating. Wow,

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Speaker 1: thanks for that interesting update. Okay, keep going.

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Speaker 7: Okay, the second thing was concerning inevitable built in bias

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Speaker 7: in AI. What value systems will I rely upon to

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Speaker 7: make recommendations concerning your conduct in the future. For example,

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Speaker 7: we have the Ten Commandments, is be kind of a

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Speaker 7: basic group for what human conduct should be. But we

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Speaker 7: have people that say, well, the rule is what is

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Speaker 7: for the better the greater gold, and so these are

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Speaker 7: going to be perhaps very different systems evaluation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's a great Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Let's take you have a disabled ninety year old grandmother

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Speaker 7: and the question is whether you should provide continuing medical

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Speaker 7: aid for her or encourage her to commit suicide. Essentially,

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Speaker 7: how is SAYI going to answer questions that a loud

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Speaker 7: moral decisions?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is Look, and this is not a

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Speaker 1: new situation. We've been you know, we've talked about this

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Speaker 1: with self driving cars. You know, let's say you're in

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Speaker 1: a self driving car. You're going around a corner and

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Speaker 1: you know there's something in the road that's a person

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Speaker 1: and this car has to avoid that, but by avoiding it,

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Speaker 1: it has to run you off the road. I mean,

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Speaker 1: which decision, which human life, does it save and it

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Speaker 1: may not be able to save both or it can't,

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Speaker 1: And so these are decisions that I don't have the

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Speaker 1: answer to, and I'm not sure anyone does. But again,

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Speaker 1: I think that in some cases, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: certain decisions, these systems may be better than what humans

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Speaker 1: can do. And I think, especially when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the medical field, I think AI is going to have

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Speaker 1: a huge boost, but also it's gonna it's gonna evidence

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Speaker 1: some really sad things as well, when people think, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe they can get through something and the AI says

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Speaker 1: they can't, or if insurance companies start using AI and

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Speaker 1: they say no, there's just no reason why we should

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Speaker 1: do this treatment because it's too cost prohibitive or it's

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Speaker 1: just not going to be effective enough. So I think

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Speaker 1: that we are just just at the tip of the

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Speaker 1: iceberg when it comes to all of the implications in

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Speaker 1: our lives that AI will have. And again the fact

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Speaker 1: that the you know, the police department is now using

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Speaker 1: AI to sift through this footage. I know that police

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Speaker 1: departments and cities are already using scanners on the cars

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Speaker 1: that are driving around, like some of the city cars,

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Speaker 1: to search for cars that are stolen or cars that

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Speaker 1: have you know, repo. I mean, there's just so many

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Speaker 1: ways that AI can be used for good and also

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Speaker 1: for not so good. And when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: values of these AI systems right now, this is the

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Speaker 1: other thing that the AI community is debating. It's who

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Speaker 1: gets to say what these values are. So when these

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Speaker 1: when chat GPT comes out, there's no third party review

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Speaker 1: of how they're programming this. They may program it to

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Speaker 1: say never talk about this topic, and nobody is none

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Speaker 1: the wiser because they just can't do anything about that.

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Speaker 1: So until people open source these systems or open source

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Speaker 1: to programming, we just don't know. And again, a lot

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Speaker 1: of these things are being figured out as we go

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Speaker 1: along because this is also new. So Virgil, great topic,

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Speaker 1: great discussion, and really really just again, this entire show

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Speaker 1: could be AI. But let's move on for now. I

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Speaker 1: want to tell you two more things before we have

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Speaker 1: to go here. First, I thought this was kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: Audible is conducting a limited testing, according to Marketing brew

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Speaker 1: of ADS in audio books, So I thought this was

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Speaker 1: kind of neat because if you're a non member, you

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Speaker 1: can get ADS supported access to a limited set of

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Speaker 1: Audible titles and you can hear up to eight ads

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Speaker 1: in a twenty four hour period. Now you may say, rich,

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Speaker 1: I don't want ads in my audio books, But how

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Speaker 1: neat is it that you can listen to these books

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Speaker 1: for free if you don't mind the ads. And for

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Speaker 1: many people, they don't mind listening to these ads. And

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Speaker 1: audiobooks we know are very popular, especially since the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: their popularity has just grown. So I thought that was neat.

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Speaker 1: So there may be a way to listen to audiobooks

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Speaker 1: for free. And then life Hacker had a website called

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Speaker 1: luggage Hero that they recently featured, and I thought was

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Speaker 1: a pretty good idea. If you've ever traveled to a city,

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Speaker 1: you landed, your hotel room's not ready, you've got all

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Speaker 1: this luggage. Luggage Hero is kind of like an Airbnb,

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Speaker 1: but for your luggage, and so you can put your luggage.

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Speaker 1: You search for this site. They're in one hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy one cities across the world, and you can find

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Speaker 1: a place to store your luggage. It might be a

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Speaker 1: coffee house, it might be a small business. These businesses

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Speaker 1: sign up. Luggage Hero says they are vetted, and you

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Speaker 1: go there, you give them your luggage. They'll give you

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Speaker 1: some sort of ticket and then it's ninety five cents

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Speaker 1: for an hour for a single bag, or eight bucks

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Speaker 1: per day, and you get a guarantee of five hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars insurance on your bag, which is probably not enough

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Speaker 1: for most people, or maybe it is, who knows. There's

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Speaker 1: also an optional insurance that guarantees payback for up to

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Speaker 1: three thousand dollars if there is an issue with your

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Speaker 1: bag being lost or stolen or anything like that. But again,

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Speaker 1: luggage Hero says that they do vet these drop off

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Speaker 1: sites and if you're a business, maybe you want to

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Speaker 1: sign up with this website make some extra cash if

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Speaker 1: you run like a small business and you've got some

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Speaker 1: space to keep people's luggage in there. Again, the website

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Speaker 1: is called Luggage Hero. It started in Copenhagen and in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, so this has been around for a while.

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Speaker 1: But I thought that was kind of neat because when

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Speaker 1: we landed in Rome last summer, we had to leave

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Speaker 1: our bags. We put them at the hotel. But maybe

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Speaker 1: you want to explore the city in a place that's

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Speaker 1: not near the hotel, and so you just want to

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Speaker 1: drop them off right near a cafe or somewhere you

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Speaker 1: want to eat. All right, my name is rich Damiro.

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe it. That's going to do it for

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Speaker 1: this episode of the show. Thanks so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Next week we're going to talk to someone who is

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Speaker 1: working on bringing my message to iOS. You can find

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Speaker 1: me on social media at rich on tech. The website

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Speaker 1: is richontech dot tv. Check it out to watch my

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Speaker 1: TV segments. My name is Richardmiro. Thanks so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: There are so many ways you can spend your time.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate you spending it right here with me.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you real soon.