WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Camp at Home 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.760 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:19.919 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.640 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:27.960 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:33.360 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:42.760 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.640 welcome back to the Break. I remember Garcia. I joined 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:50.400 by Nickiman, David Hellman and Derek could not join us today, 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:55.240 but we do have Buddy Brookes here with us. He 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.360 he's a former scow. He's an analyst for the NFL 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:02.000 for the Dallas Cowboys. He's been writing scouting reports for 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:06.000 us for a while now. And you know, welcome to 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.399 the show. How are you doing, Thanks for having me, 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.199 Thanks for having me. How's everything? You know? And also 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.440 Bucky played for the Green Bay Packers and played when 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.640 Brian brought Us was there. Brought Us was a scout. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.800 There isn't that to connected you guys? Have you you 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.479 were there at the same time. Yeah, we were there 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.320 at the same time. So Brian brought Us was working 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.240 in the pro department when I was scouting, so I 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:31.360 was there from ninety five to ninety seven, parts of 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.120 three seasons, and so I've pass initially cross then and 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.399 then we always maintain some kind of relationship there after. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:43.480 Real that's awesome. We are gonna get to some of 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.520 your scouting report, because you've been scouting all of these 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.560 guys that are coming into the teams, the new guys, 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.880 the free agents that are coming on. So I do 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:55.040 want to get into that in a bit. But before 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.520 we get into cowboys stuff, I mean, there is something 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:03.200 that we cannot just be blindsided by everything that's been 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.680 happening around the world currently and in the United States, 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.720 and it's a very very tough situation, and I just 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.280 wanted to bring it up here a little bit, just 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.200 so we don't act like nothing is happening in the world. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:22.560 It's a very tough situation with everything, and from my stand, 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.120 I know that everyone has different opinions, and from my end, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.040 you know, being part of a minority group, I see 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.680 what is happening. I feel what it's happening, and I 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.239 just want to say from me, I am doing everything 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.520 that I can to support to sit back, listen and 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.400 then take action and educate myself. I don't know, if 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.720 you guys want to speak on your own, behalf. But 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.160 so right now, I think it's a it's a moment 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:56.280 to really come together and be one. Yeah, that's well said. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.040 You know. I think that you know, in life, everybody 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.480 has different agenda and and you know you can tell 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.440 that they people want certain things for certain reasons. And 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.720 in this case, in my opinion, I think we all 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.760 should have the same agend on this one. This is uh, 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.720 you know, this isn't just one person's problem. This isn't 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.520 just one person's fight. It's it's it's all of our issues, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.040 all of our fights. And and I know that, you know, 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.480 I had to come full circle with that as well, 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.280 and I had to. I've had some discussions with people 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.520 and it kind of helped open my eyes a little 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.720 bit about how much voice, uh that everybody has, uh, 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.639 including you know myself, Dave and people of the majority, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.440 because those are the people, in my opinion, again, those 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.400 are the people that are really going to help UH 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.000 make a change. So um, you know, and again I 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.920 know that we're here to talk football, but but like 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.200 she said, this is bigger than football. Well now, I 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.360 mean it's bigger than football, but it's obviously, you know, 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.360 football around just like everything else in this country. I 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.680 don't know if y'all saw this. Literally, maybe ten minutes 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.560 before our show went on the air, Dak Brethcott made 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:06.800 a public statement about your avoid about racial injustice in America. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:13.560 He's pledging a million dollars to police training and in 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.599 fighting cinematic racism. So, I mean, whether whether you want 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.840 to hear it or not, football is part of this, uh, 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.640 And I mean Dak is one of countless figures in 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.000 football that have spoken out about this, and there's no 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.280 way to avoid it. Nobody should be trying to avoid it. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.040 You know. If that's not something you want to hear, 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.680 I'm sorry about it. But but that's that is the 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.640 fever pitch that this issue has reached in our country, 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.279 and it's irresponsible to avoid it at this point. I 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.800 think what you're seeing in locker rooms across the country, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:50.280 you're seeing guys who kind of are shed lightning their experiences, 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:55.640 and many of them have shared experiences because unfortunately, sometimes 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:01.520 being young, rich, famous, um, it doesn't protect you from 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.279 some of the things that you may encounter out in 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.080 the world. And I think because of the platforms that 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.680 athletes have they are the ones who can kind of 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.800 drive and enact change. And Nick and I had a 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.640 conversation offline where we were talking about like part of 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.239 the reason why we're seeing so many of these things, 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:23.039 and like the pandemic and everyone being home and videos 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.120 and seeing those things, Like we're being exposed to a 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.800 lot of things that we probably would pass by in 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:33.039 our normal circumstance, but because sports has halted and everything 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.440 else has kind of hit the pause budding, we're being 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.960 exposed to more of these things. I think the good 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.960 thing out of all of it, We're seeing that the 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:45.080 huddle responds in kind. We're seeing players of all races 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.120 and ethnicities come out and talk about those things. And 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.560 so even though something negative has happened, I believe something positive, 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.920 a greater good is going to happen out of all 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.279 of it. And I think sports has wanted to be 0:05:56.279 --> 0:06:00.560 the driver force of that change. You know, and I 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.279 know that, and Bucket is the first time you joined 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.120 our show. But if you know David Helmett at all, 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.039 you know he's a huge LSU, huge LSU fan, and 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.960 a huge fan of Joe Burrow. I think Joe Burrow 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:16.200 got a lot more people that aren't just Bengals or 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.880 LSU fans over the last few days, because it is 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.480 going to be people like him to to speak up 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.520 like he did, um just just the other day, and 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.359 so you know, I was proud of him for doing that. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.159 You know, he could say, I'm just a rookie trying 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.680 to figure myself out. This is about that, This is 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.520 about you know, this is about humanity, and he you know, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.719 I have applaud him for that. I'm a fan of 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.559 his even more now, Um, just just for for doing 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.520 that and taking that platform that he has. And to 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:51.120 those listening right now, I just encourage everyone to just 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.240 educate yourself, listen, put yourself in other people's shoes, and 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:59.400 just just be patient, patient and willing to have these 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.560 kind of of conversations. And while I know this is 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.000 a lot bigger than football, I also know that a 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.600 lot of people are very stressed. There's a lot of 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.600 bad things happening right now, and you guys do want 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.080 to take a little break from that and just kind 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.280 of vent and get away from from all this craziness. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.680 So we are going to talk about the Cowboys and 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.280 football right now. One of the recent news that came 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.320 out this week was that the NFL is having teams 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.960 hold their training camps at home. So the Cowboys most 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.360 likely I don't know how official this has been, but 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.840 these are the reports. The Cowboys most likely will not 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.720 be able to go to auction our California. I know 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.320 there have been there have been changes at the facility. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.960 You know, there is a field that was taken away 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.320 with some constructions in Frisco. I just wanted to talk 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.600 with you guys and just kind of get your thoughts 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.080 on how this whole thing might affect how the Cowboys 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:59.880 have been doing their training camp for the past few years. Well, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:05.040 for starters, uh, you know, they like to be outdoors. 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.400 They like to you know, get some get some work 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.360 done out there, and so you can't really do that 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.920 in Texas in late July in August. I mean you can, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.520 uh you know that you did that in which Stoffball. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.560 That's why I have a job, is because they decided 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.000 to do that in which stop fall. But I don't 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.160 think they'll do that very often. Um, you just want 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.200 more space, more field, and so being out and out 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.800 started gives them the sunshine, gives them the great weather. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.760 But more importantly It gives them two grass fields that 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.040 they can practice on, and I think that's that's one 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.960 thing that they're certainly not going to have. Um, you 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.040 know here is being able to be outdoors as much. Yes, 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.200 you have an indoor facility, but it's one field and 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.839 it's it's harder to get a lot of work done. Um. Yes, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.760 they do it during the season, but they don't have 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:53.920 ninety players during the season. Yeah. I think most football coaches, 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.319 and you played football at a high level, you can 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.600 speak to this. I would imagine you don't want to 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:05.160 practice on an artificial field for a month. I don't. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.600 It doesn't you know, people talk about it being bad 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.000 for your legs. I'm not. I'm not convinced they would 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.400 want to do that. But it does propose a challenge 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.160 of if you're going to practice doors on natural grass, 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:17.880 they're gonna have to do it early in the morning 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.080 or in the evening, because I don't see that happening 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.560 in the middle of the day, that's for sure. It's 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.760 it's it's going to be a different challenge, for sure, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.120 and I do wonder how they'll work through it. I 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.760 was in Kansas City when Mike McCarthy was the quarterback 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.960 coach there. He's taken on some of the things that 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.480 Marty Schottenheimer's done in terms of like physicality, toughness being 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:43.640 a big part of the program. However, with the limited 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.960 space and some of the issues that you're fighting against, 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.280 like your guys not being in the off season program, 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.719 your guys haven't been around, so you really don't know 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.720 what level of shape and conditioning they're going to report, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.640 and I think it will be different. I think what 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.200 you see is a mix of OTAs and some of 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.920 those offseason workout practices and normal training camp practices. It 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.440 also came down that teams won't be able to have 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:11.320 joint practices, So I think the teams that work smarter, 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.559 not necessarily harder, will be the teams that benefit from this. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.559 Mike McCarthy has already said that he has he had 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.160 contingency plans if they didn't go to Oxnard, they had 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.200 a schedule, and so I think that will work out. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.959 One thing that Dave you alluded to was they may 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.720 need to go early. I would expect that if they're 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.480 going outside, you may see different. You may see them 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.760 go out at six am so they can get to 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.920 work in early before the heat of the day and 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.000 then come back and follow that up with meetings. And 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.960 they're like, they have to get outside, they have to 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.400 get accommitted to the conditions. They want to utilize the 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.160 field space, but they're gonna have to do it in 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:51.240 a different way, but be open to the media six am. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.439 And if so, Dave, my first thought, I'm like that 0:10:54.720 --> 0:11:00.440 not better not be happening, you know, I mean, I 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.160 don't you know, we don't have to talk about the 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.080 logistics of doing our jobs here. I'm sure people don't 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.520 want to hear that. But I mean, if if the 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.079 Cowboys want to help me get a hotel room at 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.679 the hotel at the Star, I'll cover a six am practice. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.360 I don't really want to. I don't want to commute 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.079 all the way across town, but you know, maybe if 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.320 I can, if I can sell, if I can set 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.720 up shop upstairs from the field, that would be great. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.880 You know, you know what one thing to consider. We 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:30.000 we look at the situation like we've, like, you know, 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.640 from from our own we know where they practice, and 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.679 but not every I wouldn't say not every team. I 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.040 don't think any other team has a high school stadium. Actually, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.400 as their indoor facility. What's that many fans? So what? Basically, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.280 by telling all the teams that you're going to be 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.960 practicing or having training camp at home without saying it, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.560 you're saying that there will absolutely be no fans, or 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.920 at least for those teams that can't do it. I mean, 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.360 I think that that was probably already in place, but 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.920 I think just by that state, Malone means there's no 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.000 way that they're they're gonna allow that to happen because 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.840 most teams don't have the ability there. It'll be interesting 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.600 every time we do that last part of training camp 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.440 back in Frisco. I always think, I'm like, how is 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:20.040 this possible? When we're backing ox and our two fields 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.000 and and they're all spread. I mean, there are so 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.160 many guys and it just takes over the whole place. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.920 So it's gonna be interesting for sure to see how 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:33.559 McCarthy handles everything. Maybe split the teams, you know, have 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.880 the defense be outside for a while offense inside. I 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.120 don't know, We'll see how they work that out. Were 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.280 you gonna say something, I'm sorry, I was just gonna 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.280 say I can tell you one one person or a 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.599 group of people that you know this is going to 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.439 really benefit in a negative way is the rehab guys. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.120 The guys that that will be out there. You know, 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:55.000 they always take goal on a side field and working 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.400 on you know kneeds and and and ankle rehabs, Britt 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.520 Brown and that team. And you know, by in this case, 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.360 they're gonna be outside. They're gonna be doing that probably 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.880 on the graphs in a hundred degree weather or whatever. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.520 So you know, unless they are at six am or whatever. 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.360 But you know, it's just it's just a space issue. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.760 We saw it when we were in San Antonio over 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.280 the you know, forty years and you couldn't go outside 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.440 out there, and they really didn't have field to do that, 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.280 and you know, they made it work, but you know, 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:28.240 it's it's it's difficult for sure. Space the space issue 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.600 will be something that you have to consider. Also, Like 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.160 what's different than I guess when they were in San Antonio, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.480 Like now they have really tight time restraints, Like I 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.000 think you have maybe four or four and a half 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.959 hours from the time that you step onto the field 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.240 for that initial walkthrough. Um, that's all the time that 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.560 you have. And so I just wonder how creative they 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.120 can get with their practices, particularly with all the young 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.600 guys who haven't been exposed to the system. Will we 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:58.160 see separate walkthroughs for the rookies and the fringe players 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.120 where you have walkthrough with the red the guys, maybe 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.120 a practice with the team, and then after all that's done, 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.760 almost like a small section practice for the young guys 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.640 to get them up to speed, because the young guys 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.120 haven't had the benefit of rocky minicamp otias and they'll 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.000 like and so you have to find a way to 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.480 kind of rush those reps so you can count on 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.280 some of those young guys, Digs and Robinson, and those 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.520 guys are being counted on to play, and so some way, 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.720 shape or form, you have to get them ready. They 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.320 don't have to figure out a way to get it done. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.200 It's a really interesting point because I mean, you know, 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.800 it kind of gets lost in the shuffle. But even 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.160 during OTA's and during the time of year when you're 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:42.320 doing teaching sessions, like the rookies typically stay later than everybody, 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.920 like they go through afternoon walk throughs, they have extra 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.320 meetings obviously because the vets don't need it as much. 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.160 It seems likely that the rookies aren't going to have 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.200 a chance to do any of that until training camp 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.240 starts whenever. That is, so, yeah, that's that's gonna be 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.120 a lot of getting up to speed that they have 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:05.240 to help those guys with. I've had go ahead, Nick, 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.360 I just said, we had some mail bag questions about 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.520 veteran versus rookies and who's going to have an advantage, 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.720 you know, making rosters, and it just doesn't seem like, like, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.840 you know, it's even close right now. I mean, I 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.520 you know, there will be veterans that have that upper 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:27.320 hand because they understand terminology, they understand schemes and concepts 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.200 way more than than rookies. Didn't mean, if you're a 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.040 high draft pick, obviously you're gonna bank the team. But 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:34.640 you know, I think it is going to be a 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.720 challenge for an undrafted rookie to really make a splash 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.480 because they they're gonna have to do all their work 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.440 at training camp and they haven't had this offseason to 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.880 really start turning aheads. I mean, I think of Luke Gifford. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:47.920 Luke Gifford, by the time we got the training camp, 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:49.880 he was a guy we already kind of like to 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.040 see what he's done. At this point, these rooks, undrafted 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:59.280 rookies haven't really done anything, and it'd be interesting, Nick, 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.160 you bring rookies and guys trying to get contributions. I 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.560 think this year, more than any of the other year, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.160 you have to pay close attention to the practice squad. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.680 The practice squad has to be a true developmental squad 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.360 in a vehicle that teams used to get better during 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.880 the season. So the practice squad guys may not be 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.480 impactful the first half of the year, but I think 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.840 what you may see guys stashed on the practice squad 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.160 that are getting extra reps during the regular season on 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.960 the side, after practices are done week eight, week nine, 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.520 week ten, you will then begin to see those guys 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.680 kind of sprinkled into the lineup because now they're ready 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.920 to understand the offense and defensive scheme and they're ready 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:43.600 to make contributions. I wanted to ask you since you 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.920 guys have been talking about these rookies and younger guys, Bucky, 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.720 you've been doing scounting reports on a lot of these guys, 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.000 and I'll just wanted to ask you, after watching so 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.080 much film of each one of them, guys, who would 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.400 be a guy. Do you have somebody that's what do 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:08.560 you guys call it? Pet? Yeah? Hey, guy who would be? 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.240 Who would be a guy for you that has to 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.480 toot out for you know, while you've been watching all 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.960 this film, any is the guy rather they Adni is 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.040 the guy that people need to pay attention to rather 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.840 or not for whatever reason, um fail down the charts. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.600 But like, he's a fifth round pick who has big 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.600 time talent and Dallas has traditionally hit on guys like 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.320 in those stages. To think about Bradley and I that 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.720 makes him a guy that could pop. He plays with 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.240 a tremendous motor uh. He has natural rush skills. He 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.640 has a violent temperament on the field and that kind 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.960 of plays really well. Also with Mike Nolan coming over 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.679 and the hybrid scheme that they're going to use, he 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.840 is a perfect fit to kind of feel one of 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.680 those boys as a stand up player that plays off 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.760 the edge. And if you know anything, and I don't 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.280 know how many Utah players have been on Cowboys rosters 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.359 in the past, but typically when you get a Utah player, 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.760 you get except one that's physical, is someone that's tough 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.760 and kind of gets it because they practice and play 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.480 in a manner this pro life. I think he's gonna 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.200 be a guy there from day one. He's going to 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:14.120 flash right away in Utah. Anything close to Boysie States program, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.080 I know it's close in geography, because if so, we 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.600 do have a good idea about Boysie State players, like 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:25.280 like like those schools Boise State, Utah, Fresno State. For 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.480 the longest time, like they just had guys that just 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.439 kind of made it when you step as a scout 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.720 on the practice feeling and watched them go like it 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.439 was all business um at Firstno State in particular, they 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.480 used to talk about anytime anywhere, they did not care, 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:39.239 like if you want to strap it on, they were 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.399 ready to go. Utah operates in a similar manner. You've 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.600 seen a bunch of Utah guys had success in the pros. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.280 Radley and I like gets and when we watched him 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.560 at the Ceni Bowl, he was unblockable coming off the 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.960 edge against high level players. I think in this scheme, 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:55.720 in this system, I think he's going to be a 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.520 guy that is really really, really good play. Now I'm 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.200 racking my brain. I don't I don't think the Cowboys 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.439 have had a Utah guy at least not a you know, 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.800 a notable name in the time that I've covered the team, 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.960 But I mean you talk, yeah, going all the way 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.359 through the draft process back to last summer, that Utah 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.280 defense was so impressive. You know, five or six guys 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.320 off that Unich got drafted. They're so physical, nasty, fun 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.560 to watch. Uh yeah, I'm I'm really excited about about 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:32.480 Bradley and I winn in here some physical toughness, especially 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:37.480 after last draft, winning some guys that can come in 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.159 here with you. You hate this defense so much, like 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.679 it's it's just going over Yeah, no, no, no, I 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:49.560 don't hate it all These guys gotta be tougher, gotta 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.880 hit it, hit it, you know. And like I said, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.600 especially after what we saw from last draft, I think 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.600 that a lot of people might probably will you agree 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.880 with me. You need guys that are able to come 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:07.040 in and actually be bringing something to the table, and 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.720 not some people that you completely forget about last year. 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.359 The only person I kept reminded myself that I could 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.399 remember their name was Tony Poller. Other than that, I 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.399 would have to be like, who did with draft again? 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.800 So don't mistake me. Everybody agrees with you. Like after 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.520 every show, everybody's in my mentions talking about how you 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.359 speak for the fans. So you're act like you're a 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:33.600 hundred percent right. Started sweating. I already started sweating. I 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.399 get so emotional. I know we're Here's the thing that 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.520 is different, And like Mike McCarthy talked about it in 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.280 the opening for us, and when you talked about players 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.720 over system, when you let the system lead, sometimes what 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.520 you do is you boca is good players to get 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.200 guys to kind of fit the system and it can work, 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.240 but you really got to hit on those things. When 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.600 you go with players and then you tailor the system 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.160 around what the players do, you have a better chance 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.720 of getting it to work. Also, the way they're changing 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:01.920 the defense from being kind of like what i'll call 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.320 a simple system where we're single high safety. They lined 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.120 up and we're gonna do what we do. It doesn't 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.479 matter what you do. We're just gonna be better than you. 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.560 Like that's great when you have superior talent, and for 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.160 whatever reason, it didn't work last year for the Cowboys. 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.359 This year, Mike Nolan has talked about being multiple, being 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.840 complex given the quarterback different looks and when you look 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.680 at the acquisitions the guys that they've acquired, not only 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.560 in the draft but in free agency, you have more 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.480 guys that can do multiple things and play multiple roles. 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.479