1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, 7 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: welcome back to the Break. I remember Garcia. I joined 8 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: by Nickiman, David Hellman and Derek could not join us today, 9 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: but we do have Buddy Brookes here with us. He 10 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: he's a former scow. He's an analyst for the NFL 11 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. He's been writing scouting reports for 12 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: us for a while now. And you know, welcome to 13 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: the show. How are you doing, Thanks for having me, 14 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. How's everything? You know? And also 15 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Bucky played for the Green Bay Packers and played when 16 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Brian brought Us was there. Brought Us was a scout. 17 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: There isn't that to connected you guys? Have you you 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: were there at the same time. Yeah, we were there 19 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: at the same time. So Brian brought Us was working 20 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: in the pro department when I was scouting, so I 21 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: was there from ninety five to ninety seven, parts of 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: three seasons, and so I've pass initially cross then and 23 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: then we always maintain some kind of relationship there after. 24 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: Real that's awesome. We are gonna get to some of 25 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: your scouting report, because you've been scouting all of these 26 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: guys that are coming into the teams, the new guys, 27 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: the free agents that are coming on. So I do 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: want to get into that in a bit. But before 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: we get into cowboys stuff, I mean, there is something 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: that we cannot just be blindsided by everything that's been 31 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: happening around the world currently and in the United States, 32 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: and it's a very very tough situation, and I just 33 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: wanted to bring it up here a little bit, just 34 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: so we don't act like nothing is happening in the world. 35 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: It's a very tough situation with everything, and from my stand, 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: I know that everyone has different opinions, and from my end, 37 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, being part of a minority group, I see 38 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: what is happening. I feel what it's happening, and I 39 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: just want to say from me, I am doing everything 40 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: that I can to support to sit back, listen and 41 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: then take action and educate myself. I don't know, if 42 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: you guys want to speak on your own, behalf. But 43 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: so right now, I think it's a it's a moment 44 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: to really come together and be one. Yeah, that's well said. 45 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: You know. I think that you know, in life, everybody 46 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: has different agenda and and you know you can tell 47 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: that they people want certain things for certain reasons. And 48 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: in this case, in my opinion, I think we all 49 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: should have the same agend on this one. This is uh, 50 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, this isn't just one person's problem. This isn't 51 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: just one person's fight. It's it's it's all of our issues, 52 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: all of our fights. And and I know that, you know, 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: I had to come full circle with that as well, 54 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: and I had to. I've had some discussions with people 55 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: and it kind of helped open my eyes a little 56 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: bit about how much voice, uh that everybody has, uh, 57 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: including you know myself, Dave and people of the majority, 58 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: because those are the people, in my opinion, again, those 59 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: are the people that are really going to help UH 60 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: make a change. So um, you know, and again I 61 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: know that we're here to talk football, but but like 62 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: she said, this is bigger than football. Well now, I 63 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: mean it's bigger than football, but it's obviously, you know, 64 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: football around just like everything else in this country. I 65 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: don't know if y'all saw this. Literally, maybe ten minutes 66 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: before our show went on the air, Dak Brethcott made 67 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: a public statement about your avoid about racial injustice in America. 68 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: He's pledging a million dollars to police training and in 69 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: fighting cinematic racism. So, I mean, whether whether you want 70 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: to hear it or not, football is part of this, uh, 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: And I mean Dak is one of countless figures in 72 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: football that have spoken out about this, and there's no 73 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: way to avoid it. Nobody should be trying to avoid it. 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: You know. If that's not something you want to hear, 75 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry about it. But but that's that is the 76 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: fever pitch that this issue has reached in our country, 77 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: and it's irresponsible to avoid it at this point. I 78 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: think what you're seeing in locker rooms across the country, 79 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: you're seeing guys who kind of are shed lightning their experiences, 80 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: and many of them have shared experiences because unfortunately, sometimes 81 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: being young, rich, famous, um, it doesn't protect you from 82 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: some of the things that you may encounter out in 83 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: the world. And I think because of the platforms that 84 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: athletes have they are the ones who can kind of 85 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: drive and enact change. And Nick and I had a 86 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: conversation offline where we were talking about like part of 87 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 1: the reason why we're seeing so many of these things, 88 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: and like the pandemic and everyone being home and videos 89 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: and seeing those things, Like we're being exposed to a 90 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: lot of things that we probably would pass by in 91 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: our normal circumstance, but because sports has halted and everything 92 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: else has kind of hit the pause budding, we're being 93 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: exposed to more of these things. I think the good 94 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: thing out of all of it, We're seeing that the 95 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: huddle responds in kind. We're seeing players of all races 96 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: and ethnicities come out and talk about those things. And 97 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: so even though something negative has happened, I believe something positive, 98 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: a greater good is going to happen out of all 99 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: of it. And I think sports has wanted to be 100 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: the driver force of that change. You know, and I 101 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: know that, and Bucket is the first time you joined 102 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: our show. But if you know David Helmett at all, 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: you know he's a huge LSU, huge LSU fan, and 104 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: a huge fan of Joe Burrow. I think Joe Burrow 105 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: got a lot more people that aren't just Bengals or 106 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: LSU fans over the last few days, because it is 107 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: going to be people like him to to speak up 108 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: like he did, um just just the other day, and 109 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: so you know, I was proud of him for doing that. 110 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: You know, he could say, I'm just a rookie trying 111 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: to figure myself out. This is about that, This is 112 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: about you know, this is about humanity, and he you know, 113 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: I have applaud him for that. I'm a fan of 114 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: his even more now, Um, just just for for doing 115 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: that and taking that platform that he has. And to 116 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: those listening right now, I just encourage everyone to just 117 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: educate yourself, listen, put yourself in other people's shoes, and 118 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: just just be patient, patient and willing to have these 119 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: kind of of conversations. And while I know this is 120 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot bigger than football, I also know that a 121 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: lot of people are very stressed. There's a lot of 122 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: bad things happening right now, and you guys do want 123 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: to take a little break from that and just kind 124 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: of vent and get away from from all this craziness. 125 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: So we are going to talk about the Cowboys and 126 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: football right now. One of the recent news that came 127 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: out this week was that the NFL is having teams 128 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: hold their training camps at home. So the Cowboys most 129 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: likely I don't know how official this has been, but 130 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: these are the reports. The Cowboys most likely will not 131 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: be able to go to auction our California. I know 132 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: there have been there have been changes at the facility. 133 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, there is a field that was taken away 134 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: with some constructions in Frisco. I just wanted to talk 135 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: with you guys and just kind of get your thoughts 136 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: on how this whole thing might affect how the Cowboys 137 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: have been doing their training camp for the past few years. Well, 138 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: for starters, uh, you know, they like to be outdoors. 139 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: They like to you know, get some get some work 140 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: done out there, and so you can't really do that 141 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: in Texas in late July in August. I mean you can, 142 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: uh you know that you did that in which Stoffball. 143 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: That's why I have a job, is because they decided 144 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: to do that in which stop fall. But I don't 145 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: think they'll do that very often. Um, you just want 146 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: more space, more field, and so being out and out 147 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: started gives them the sunshine, gives them the great weather. 148 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: But more importantly It gives them two grass fields that 149 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: they can practice on, and I think that's that's one 150 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: thing that they're certainly not going to have. Um, you 151 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: know here is being able to be outdoors as much. Yes, 152 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: you have an indoor facility, but it's one field and 153 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: it's it's harder to get a lot of work done. Um. Yes, 154 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: they do it during the season, but they don't have 155 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: ninety players during the season. Yeah. I think most football coaches, 156 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: and you played football at a high level, you can 157 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: speak to this. I would imagine you don't want to 158 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: practice on an artificial field for a month. I don't. 159 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't you know, people talk about it being bad 160 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: for your legs. I'm not. I'm not convinced they would 161 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: want to do that. But it does propose a challenge 162 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: of if you're going to practice doors on natural grass, 163 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do it early in the morning 164 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: or in the evening, because I don't see that happening 165 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of the day, that's for sure. It's 166 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: it's it's going to be a different challenge, for sure, 167 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: and I do wonder how they'll work through it. I 168 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: was in Kansas City when Mike McCarthy was the quarterback 169 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: coach there. He's taken on some of the things that 170 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer's done in terms of like physicality, toughness being 171 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: a big part of the program. However, with the limited 172 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: space and some of the issues that you're fighting against, 173 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: like your guys not being in the off season program, 174 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: your guys haven't been around, so you really don't know 175 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: what level of shape and conditioning they're going to report, 176 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: and I think it will be different. I think what 177 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: you see is a mix of OTAs and some of 178 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: those offseason workout practices and normal training camp practices. It 179 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: also came down that teams won't be able to have 180 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: joint practices, So I think the teams that work smarter, 181 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: not necessarily harder, will be the teams that benefit from this. 182 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has already said that he has he had 183 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: contingency plans if they didn't go to Oxnard, they had 184 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: a schedule, and so I think that will work out. 185 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: One thing that Dave you alluded to was they may 186 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: need to go early. I would expect that if they're 187 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: going outside, you may see different. You may see them 188 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: go out at six am so they can get to 189 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: work in early before the heat of the day and 190 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: then come back and follow that up with meetings. And 191 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: they're like, they have to get outside, they have to 192 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: get accommitted to the conditions. They want to utilize the 193 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: field space, but they're gonna have to do it in 194 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: a different way, but be open to the media six am. 195 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: And if so, Dave, my first thought, I'm like that 196 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: not better not be happening, you know, I mean, I 197 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: don't you know, we don't have to talk about the 198 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: logistics of doing our jobs here. I'm sure people don't 199 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: want to hear that. But I mean, if if the 200 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: Cowboys want to help me get a hotel room at 201 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: the hotel at the Star, I'll cover a six am practice. 202 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't really want to. I don't want to commute 203 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: all the way across town, but you know, maybe if 204 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: I can, if I can sell, if I can set 205 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: up shop upstairs from the field, that would be great. 206 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: You know, you know what one thing to consider. We 207 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: we look at the situation like we've, like, you know, 208 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: from from our own we know where they practice, and 209 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: but not every I wouldn't say not every team. I 210 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: don't think any other team has a high school stadium. Actually, 211 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: as their indoor facility. What's that many fans? So what? Basically, 212 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: by telling all the teams that you're going to be 213 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: practicing or having training camp at home without saying it, 214 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: you're saying that there will absolutely be no fans, or 215 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: at least for those teams that can't do it. I mean, 216 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: I think that that was probably already in place, but 217 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: I think just by that state, Malone means there's no 218 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: way that they're they're gonna allow that to happen because 219 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: most teams don't have the ability there. It'll be interesting 220 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: every time we do that last part of training camp 221 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: back in Frisco. I always think, I'm like, how is 222 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: this possible? When we're backing ox and our two fields 223 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: and and they're all spread. I mean, there are so 224 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: many guys and it just takes over the whole place. 225 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting for sure to see how 226 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: McCarthy handles everything. Maybe split the teams, you know, have 227 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: the defense be outside for a while offense inside. I 228 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: don't know, We'll see how they work that out. Were 229 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: you gonna say something, I'm sorry, I was just gonna 230 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: say I can tell you one one person or a 231 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 1: group of people that you know this is going to 232 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: really benefit in a negative way is the rehab guys. 233 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: The guys that that will be out there. You know, 234 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: they always take goal on a side field and working 235 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: on you know kneeds and and and ankle rehabs, Britt 236 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Brown and that team. And you know, by in this case, 237 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna be outside. They're gonna be doing that probably 238 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: on the graphs in a hundred degree weather or whatever. 239 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: So you know, unless they are at six am or whatever. 240 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: But you know, it's just it's just a space issue. 241 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: We saw it when we were in San Antonio over 242 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: the you know, forty years and you couldn't go outside 243 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: out there, and they really didn't have field to do that, 244 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: and you know, they made it work, but you know, 245 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's difficult for sure. Space the space issue 246 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: will be something that you have to consider. Also, Like 247 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: what's different than I guess when they were in San Antonio, 248 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: Like now they have really tight time restraints, Like I 249 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: think you have maybe four or four and a half 250 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: hours from the time that you step onto the field 251 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: for that initial walkthrough. Um, that's all the time that 252 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: you have. And so I just wonder how creative they 253 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: can get with their practices, particularly with all the young 254 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: guys who haven't been exposed to the system. Will we 255 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: see separate walkthroughs for the rookies and the fringe players 256 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: where you have walkthrough with the red the guys, maybe 257 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: a practice with the team, and then after all that's done, 258 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: almost like a small section practice for the young guys 259 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: to get them up to speed, because the young guys 260 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: haven't had the benefit of rocky minicamp otias and they'll 261 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: like and so you have to find a way to 262 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: kind of rush those reps so you can count on 263 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: some of those young guys, Digs and Robinson, and those 264 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: guys are being counted on to play, and so some way, 265 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: shape or form, you have to get them ready. They 266 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: don't have to figure out a way to get it done. 267 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: It's a really interesting point because I mean, you know, 268 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: it kind of gets lost in the shuffle. But even 269 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: during OTA's and during the time of year when you're 270 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: doing teaching sessions, like the rookies typically stay later than everybody, 271 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: like they go through afternoon walk throughs, they have extra 272 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: meetings obviously because the vets don't need it as much. 273 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: It seems likely that the rookies aren't going to have 274 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: a chance to do any of that until training camp 275 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: starts whenever. That is, so, yeah, that's that's gonna be 276 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: a lot of getting up to speed that they have 277 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: to help those guys with. I've had go ahead, Nick, 278 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: I just said, we had some mail bag questions about 279 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: veteran versus rookies and who's going to have an advantage, 280 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, making rosters, and it just doesn't seem like, like, 281 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's even close right now. I mean, I 282 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, there will be veterans that have that upper 283 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: hand because they understand terminology, they understand schemes and concepts 284 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: way more than than rookies. Didn't mean, if you're a 285 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: high draft pick, obviously you're gonna bank the team. But 286 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think it is going to be a 287 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: challenge for an undrafted rookie to really make a splash 288 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: because they they're gonna have to do all their work 289 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: at training camp and they haven't had this offseason to 290 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: really start turning aheads. I mean, I think of Luke Gifford. 291 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Luke Gifford, by the time we got the training camp, 292 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: he was a guy we already kind of like to 293 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: see what he's done. At this point, these rooks, undrafted 294 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: rookies haven't really done anything, and it'd be interesting, Nick, 295 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: you bring rookies and guys trying to get contributions. I 296 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: think this year, more than any of the other year, 297 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: you have to pay close attention to the practice squad. 298 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: The practice squad has to be a true developmental squad 299 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: in a vehicle that teams used to get better during 300 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: the season. So the practice squad guys may not be 301 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: impactful the first half of the year, but I think 302 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: what you may see guys stashed on the practice squad 303 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: that are getting extra reps during the regular season on 304 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: the side, after practices are done week eight, week nine, 305 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: week ten, you will then begin to see those guys 306 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: kind of sprinkled into the lineup because now they're ready 307 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: to understand the offense and defensive scheme and they're ready 308 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: to make contributions. I wanted to ask you since you 309 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: guys have been talking about these rookies and younger guys, Bucky, 310 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: you've been doing scounting reports on a lot of these guys, 311 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: and I'll just wanted to ask you, after watching so 312 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: much film of each one of them, guys, who would 313 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: be a guy. Do you have somebody that's what do 314 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: you guys call it? Pet? Yeah? Hey, guy who would be? 315 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: Who would be a guy for you that has to 316 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: toot out for you know, while you've been watching all 317 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: this film, any is the guy rather they Adni is 318 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: the guy that people need to pay attention to rather 319 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: or not for whatever reason, um fail down the charts. 320 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: But like, he's a fifth round pick who has big 321 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: time talent and Dallas has traditionally hit on guys like 322 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: in those stages. To think about Bradley and I that 323 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: makes him a guy that could pop. He plays with 324 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: a tremendous motor uh. He has natural rush skills. He 325 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: has a violent temperament on the field and that kind 326 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: of plays really well. Also with Mike Nolan coming over 327 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: and the hybrid scheme that they're going to use, he 328 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: is a perfect fit to kind of feel one of 329 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: those boys as a stand up player that plays off 330 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: the edge. And if you know anything, and I don't 331 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: know how many Utah players have been on Cowboys rosters 332 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: in the past, but typically when you get a Utah player, 333 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: you get except one that's physical, is someone that's tough 334 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: and kind of gets it because they practice and play 335 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: in a manner this pro life. I think he's gonna 336 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: be a guy there from day one. He's going to 337 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: flash right away in Utah. Anything close to Boysie States program, 338 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: I know it's close in geography, because if so, we 339 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: do have a good idea about Boysie State players, like 340 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: like like those schools Boise State, Utah, Fresno State. For 341 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: the longest time, like they just had guys that just 342 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: kind of made it when you step as a scout 343 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: on the practice feeling and watched them go like it 344 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: was all business um at Firstno State in particular, they 345 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: used to talk about anytime anywhere, they did not care, 346 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: like if you want to strap it on, they were 347 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: ready to go. Utah operates in a similar manner. You've 348 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: seen a bunch of Utah guys had success in the pros. 349 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: Radley and I like gets and when we watched him 350 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: at the Ceni Bowl, he was unblockable coming off the 351 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: edge against high level players. I think in this scheme, 352 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: in this system, I think he's going to be a 353 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: guy that is really really, really good play. Now I'm 354 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: racking my brain. I don't I don't think the Cowboys 355 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: have had a Utah guy at least not a you know, 356 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: a notable name in the time that I've covered the team, 357 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: But I mean you talk, yeah, going all the way 358 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: through the draft process back to last summer, that Utah 359 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: defense was so impressive. You know, five or six guys 360 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: off that Unich got drafted. They're so physical, nasty, fun 361 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: to watch. Uh yeah, I'm I'm really excited about about 362 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: Bradley and I winn in here some physical toughness, especially 363 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: after last draft, winning some guys that can come in 364 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: here with you. You hate this defense so much, like 365 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: it's it's just going over Yeah, no, no, no, I 366 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: don't hate it all These guys gotta be tougher, gotta 367 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: hit it, hit it, you know. And like I said, 368 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: especially after what we saw from last draft, I think 369 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: that a lot of people might probably will you agree 370 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: with me. You need guys that are able to come 371 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: in and actually be bringing something to the table, and 372 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: not some people that you completely forget about last year. 373 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: The only person I kept reminded myself that I could 374 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: remember their name was Tony Poller. Other than that, I 375 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: would have to be like, who did with draft again? 376 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: So don't mistake me. Everybody agrees with you. Like after 377 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: every show, everybody's in my mentions talking about how you 378 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: speak for the fans. So you're act like you're a 379 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: hundred percent right. Started sweating. I already started sweating. I 380 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: get so emotional. I know we're Here's the thing that 381 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: is different, And like Mike McCarthy talked about it in 382 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: the opening for us, and when you talked about players 383 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: over system, when you let the system lead, sometimes what 384 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: you do is you boca is good players to get 385 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: guys to kind of fit the system and it can work, 386 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: but you really got to hit on those things. When 387 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: you go with players and then you tailor the system 388 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: around what the players do, you have a better chance 389 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: of getting it to work. Also, the way they're changing 390 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: the defense from being kind of like what i'll call 391 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: a simple system where we're single high safety. They lined 392 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: up and we're gonna do what we do. It doesn't 393 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 1: matter what you do. We're just gonna be better than you. 394 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: Like that's great when you have superior talent, and for 395 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it didn't work last year for the Cowboys. 396 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: This year, Mike Nolan has talked about being multiple, being 397 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: complex given the quarterback different looks and when you look 398 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: at the acquisitions the guys that they've acquired, not only 399 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: in the draft but in free agency, you have more 400 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: guys that can do multiple things and play multiple roles. 401 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: The challenge will be, can Mike Nolan make it simple 402 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: enough that guys can grasp it quickly so they can 403 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: put it into play on the field. That would be 404 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: the only thing that I'd be worried about it. I'll 405 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: be paying attention to looking at training again. Well, let's 406 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: let's go to a quick break right now. When we 407 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: come back, well a little different into that because I 408 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are still asking about the 409 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: four three four, which one is it? So I wanted 410 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: to get y'all input in that once again. And then 411 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: we have a lot of questions from the fence to 412 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: answer on here when we come back. Your new apartment's big, 413 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: such a great deal. 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What 449 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: is this defense gonna be at three four four three? 450 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: Which one is it? I don't know why people care 451 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: so much, honestly, but just go ahead. I'm gonna let 452 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: you go ahead and speak about it too, hopefully and 453 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: bring some reason into this whole mess. Michelan said it's 454 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: gonna be a hybrid, but given Mike Nolan's history, he 455 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: excused heavily towards a three four defense, and the only 456 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: change really they need a big They needed more size 457 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: upfront to be able to do a three four because ideally, 458 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: what you want in a three four your best players 459 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: are your lie back, So whoever they doesn't as the linebackers. 460 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: So if they dubbed DeMarcus Lawrence as an edge player 461 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: and a linebacker, Alden Smith, Randy Gregory, whoever plays on 462 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: the other side, they'll be a linebacker. The two inside linebackers, 463 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith and Lady vander Esh those guys. The region 464 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: need bigger guys inside, Gerald McCoy and Port Pope because 465 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: you want them to clog up blockers so they can 466 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: run and chase. You want a free lv and Jaylen 467 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: Smith to be able to just run and chase and go. Really, 468 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Seaball get ball on the edges. What you're trying to 469 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: do and the reason it's beneficial to being at a 470 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: three four, You're trying to get your best pass rusher 471 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: on a running back or a tied end, and to 472 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: think about the three four is you can move and 473 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: stunt and create some five man fronts where the offense 474 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: has to leave one of those guys on one of 475 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: your better rushers. Mike Nolan has played this defense in 476 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: the past with Terrell Sugs in Baltimore and created opportunities 477 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: for them to get a gang of sacks. The Marcus 478 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: Lawrence will get a number of one on one opportunities. 479 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Now only gets tackles, but they can configure the defense 480 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: to give him a chance to get one on ones 481 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: with running backs. If a pass for rushers one on 482 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: one with a back equals a sack. And so I 483 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: think what you'll see is more blitzing, more chaos, more 484 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: disruption up front. They should need more turnables. I agree 485 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: with that. And I really think that, you know, we've 486 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: said this Bucky before, the Jalen Smith. Figuring out how 487 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: to use Jalen Smith in the right way is a 488 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: very high priority, or should be a high priority for um, 489 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, Mike Nolan and this defense. And I think 490 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: a three fourth scheme putting him in Layton kind of 491 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: right in the middle, there's not a lot of coverage 492 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: to be asked for those guys, you know, I think 493 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: that's exactly where Jalen needs to be. Yeah. With Jalen, 494 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: like if you go all the way back to when 495 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: he was playing at Notre Dame, he was so much 496 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: more than just a side on the sideline line. They 497 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: would blitz him. They would incorporate him as part of 498 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: the pass rush well in the three or four defense. 499 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: One of the benefits of being in the three or 500 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: four you have three down linement, but you have four 501 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: stand up players, and any of those stand up players 502 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: can go on a given down to create either a 503 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: four man pressure which is called a simulated pressure, or 504 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: you bring two. You now have a blitz. So in theory, 505 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 1: you could bring the Marcus Lawrence and Jayalen Smith from 506 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: the same side. You can bring all the Smith from 507 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: one side, Jailen from the other side. It just gives 508 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: you a lot of flexibility. And even when they go 509 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: into their nickel package, which may have a four man front, 510 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: there's just so many creative things that you can do 511 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: when you add in the blitz pressures. But a lot 512 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: of that will be dependent upon how will can they 513 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: cover in the end, Because if you can cover well 514 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: in the back end, then you can do more stuff, 515 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: more aggressive stuff in the front end. That's that's where 516 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: I keep landing, which is why I like I agree 517 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: with Amber's It's funny to me that people are clamoring 518 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: for clarity so much because that's exactly what everybody was 519 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: so sick of under the last coaching staff. Liked Marinelli 520 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: is going to play a four three front. They're gonna 521 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: do this, the pass rushers are gonna get up a field. 522 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: It's the same thing all the time, and people were 523 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: sick of it. I love the fact that we don't 524 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: one hundred percent know what this is going to look like. Like, 525 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: I hope Alton Smith and to Marcus Lawrence do stand 526 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: up from time to time. I hope they put their 527 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: hands down in a four to three front. I hope 528 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith rushes off the edge in addition to playing linebacker. 529 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: Like I hope all that stuff is true. That's why 530 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: like hybrid. The word hybrid really excites me. I hope 531 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: that they're as versatile as I think they can be 532 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: because they have so many crazy athletes. I mean, you're 533 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: both of your defensive facules can play in both types 534 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: of fronts. Layton vander esh and John Smith are two 535 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: of the most athletic linebackers in the entire league. They 536 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: can do a number of different things. Obviously have very 537 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: versatile pass rushers. We've talked about how you know Tyrone 538 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: Crawford can do everything from four to three end to 539 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: four three tackle to three to four end. There's so 540 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: much versatility, Like, if you're not doing a little bit 541 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: of everything, then I'm not sure you're capitalizing on your talent. 542 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited. We don't know for sure what 543 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: it's going to look like, because it could look like 544 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, maybe a bunch of stuff up front, 545 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Like the versatility did they have because and studying the 546 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: roster and studying the lineup, You're right, Tyron Crawford is 547 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: the wild card. Because Tyron Crawford started at end, but 548 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: he can kick down the side of be a three, 549 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: four or five. He plays over the shoulder of the tackle. 550 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: You have Poe and McCoy that can bleed the zero 551 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: and the three technique, the nose tackle and the jump tackle, 552 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: and then you got to stand up players. But where 553 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: it really can become funky for teams facing them. The 554 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: creativity that they now have with the safeties, how Clinton 555 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: Dix maybe with being able to play what we call 556 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: split safety coverage. If you go back and the classic 557 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: yes to you when everybody loved the Cowboys in the 558 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: mid nineties, they played a lot of quarters, meaning that 559 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: if you basically just divvy up the field and quarters 560 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: the corners at the outside quarters of the field, the 561 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: safety plays the inside quarters. Well. Now with how high 562 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: Clinton Dix and was being able to kind of rock 563 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: and roll and play some man coverage and do some 564 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: of those things, you now can have the nine man 565 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: fronts against the run, but you can play quarters coverage 566 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: in the back end. And the other part of that, 567 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: you can play quarter quarter half, which means that when 568 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: they're facing the teams in the NFC East, and if 569 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: there's a stud wide receiver, they can now roll up 570 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: and basically double team that side and the other corner 571 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: can play man to man. It is almost the old 572 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders defense. If they have a corner that stands out, 573 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: you leave him locked up on the outside by himself. 574 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: You roll the other way, and you dare the quarterback 575 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: to find the third option. If the Cowboys can evolve 576 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: to that kind of defense while bringing pressure man, you're 577 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: able to suffocate opponents with the different schemes that might 578 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 1: go that wants to bring and I know that smirk. Okay, 579 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: so I can get exactly no if you have and 580 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: let's just say it at the same time because we're 581 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: both we're both asking the question, which cornerback do you 582 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: trust to lockdown inside of the field, Who's Deon Sanders? 583 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: And this equation that that sounds great. That's like I 584 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: keep hearing a lot of people say with the last dance, 585 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, who's who's the Scottie Pippen of the Cowboys. 586 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, who's the Michael Jordans, Like who's the Phil Jackson? Like, 587 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, who's the Deon Sanders of this? Okay, So 588 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: think of it this way because a lot of times 589 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: when we think about the Dion Sanders theory, we think 590 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: about Dion taking on the number one receiver. Would flip 591 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: your mom, put the corner on the number two guy, 592 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: double team number one, and forced them to throw the 593 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: number three. So, whoever emerges as your top corner, don't 594 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: put them on the other team's best guy. Put them 595 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: on the worst guy, double team the best guy, and 596 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: dare the third guy on offense to be the guy 597 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: that has to beat you. That's how you play the defence. 598 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: Nineteen nine Befour NFC Championship Game, That's exactly what the 599 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: forty nine ers did. That's what they did, They double 600 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: team to Michael. Michael had a huge get day and 601 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: Dion just shut down Harper and then they Kevin Williams 602 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: had to try to be the other guy and it 603 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: didn't work. That's exactly the theory there. So yeah, it'll 604 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: be interesting to see, you know, but it's it's kind 605 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: of funny how it's all connected. How the tackles need 606 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: to help the linebackers, and how the safeties can play 607 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: this and the corners. It takes everyone, you know, they 608 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: say that all the time to take to all eleven 609 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: and it really doesn't that defense. To go back to 610 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: the point about versatility, and I'm not trying to convince 611 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: anybody that they're the legion of Boom. We have no 612 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: idea how good or bad this secondary could be, but 613 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: I am really intrigued by how versatile it is, just 614 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: in terms of the skill sets. I mean, we know 615 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown and Jordin Lewis can both play inside and outside. 616 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: You know, we're we speculated plenty about you know, they 617 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: might want to move Cheeto to safety or Reggie Robinson 618 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: has some safety flex. People forget exact Woods slot corner 619 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: as a rookie, and how high. Clinton Dix has also 620 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: played a number of different spots. You know, I don't 621 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: believe he's played a ton of corner, but he's handled 622 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: multiple responsibilities as a safety. So yeah, a lot of 623 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: guys that can do a lot of stuff. Yea, Worley's 624 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: played safety and corner as well, for sure. Yeah. So 625 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: now the beauty of that the coverage and what we're 626 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: talking about, so whether it's quarter, quarter, half, but whether 627 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: it's just true quarters. So the thing that you saw 628 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: in the offseason, the guys that they brought over Digs 629 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: and Robinson's long versatile in terms of being able to 630 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: play press, bill and off they get their hands on 631 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: the ball. Then in Worly the same thing. So in 632 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: theory Mike Nolan has talked about, Look, we want to 633 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: put the guys in a situation where they do when 634 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: they do really well. But the thing about quarters, you 635 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: can play quarters pressed like they used to way back 636 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: when jim Base was to decorded. I mean, Jimmy Johnson 637 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: and all those guys were there. They locked up and 638 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: they did things. But you also can walk those guys 639 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: out and let them vision on the quarterback and if 640 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: the pass rush is really good, they get their interceptions 641 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: off tips and overthrows. So depending on how much pressure 642 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: they can create at the line of scrimmage, that can 643 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: dictate the number of interceptions. To get more interceptions, you 644 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: have to play more zone because your cornerbacks have to 645 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: have their vision on the quarterback and see the ball 646 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: come out when you play man to man like Byron 647 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: Jones did. The reason why he didn't get a lot 648 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: of interceptions, his back is always to the quarterback. Those 649 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: guys get breakups, not interceptions. Mike Nolan has talked about 650 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: we need interceptions, we need picks, We got to have turnovers. 651 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: We have to have those things. He is going to 652 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: play so they can see the ball come out. A 653 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: little more zone, a little more stuff that gives his 654 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: guys an opportunity to get those takeaways. Startling how rarely 655 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: Cowboys defensive backs played the ball, you know, in the 656 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: last couple of years of Rod mary Elly's tenure. I 657 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: think it's it's probably one of the top five complaints 658 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: from fans and media about the way the Cowboys played 659 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: over the last few years. So yeah, I mean, it's 660 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: exciting to think that they might unleash these guys a 661 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: little bit well, and another thing is I remember last 662 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: year when we were about to face the Patriots, and 663 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: I remember asking you guys, I'm like, okay, what makes 664 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots so good? And one of the things that 665 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: you guys talked about was the fact that they change 666 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: things up every week based on their opponent. So to me, 667 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: when you talked about, okay, what are you? What kind 668 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: of defense are you? Why do you need to be 669 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: defined by something? Why can't you just change it? I mean, 670 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: as in football. I've never played football, but how hard 671 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: is it to change it every week depending who your 672 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: opponent is? And hopefully you can comment on that as 673 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: a former player, because I haven't been on the field plane, 674 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: but really, how hard is it to switch it up? Hey? 675 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: So hey, Kate, I'm sorry. I don't want to Jeff 676 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: Bucky because you're gonna have a better answer than me. 677 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: But I'll say this that Bill Belichick didn't just do 678 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: this overnight. When he is looking at players, he's not 679 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: just looking at forty times and all that. He's looking 680 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: at guys that are smart, that can understand concepts, understand 681 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: a lot of teams. Just say give me, oh he 682 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: ran a four to eight. I got him where this 683 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: guy ran a four to four. But he's a very 684 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: intelligent player. He's very versatile. He understands teams and so 685 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: he can he can make a change on a Tuesday 686 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: and Wednesday in the middle of the week. As we've 687 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: had players on this team. I don't want to name 688 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: names pit players on this team for eight or nine 689 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: years that could never, never really play a different position, 690 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: and so that stuff matters, and you have to have 691 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: the players that can adapt. That's that's a great point, 692 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: nick Um. With the Patriots, they always if you look 693 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: at him, they always skew towards veterans players. Why because 694 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: veteran players aren't experienced, they played in dolt systems. It's 695 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: easier for them to get adjustments on the fly because 696 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: they've been exposed to a lot. When you have young players, 697 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to overload them with a bunch of 698 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: different changes and adjustments because as they're thinking, they can't 699 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: really play with the Cowboys. And Mike Nolan said this, 700 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: He's like, if you want to create takeaways, you have 701 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: to get guys that have a history of taking the 702 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: ball away. So you gotta look in the background. As 703 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: college players, did they get their hands on the ball, 704 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: on the ball, and as collegiance, Brian Jones didn't get 705 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: his hands on the ball a lot when he played 706 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: at Yukon. So to expect him to be a high 707 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 1: turnover guy, that's an unreasonable expectation because he's not going 708 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: to play like that. When you look at Raggy Robinson, 709 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: he has seven picks. He saw digs. He has seven 710 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: or eight picks in his career. You've seen those guys 711 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: come down with interception. So you understand, Oh, these guys 712 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: can catch the ball. Maybe they played wide receiver, they 713 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: understand it. The thing that is the challenge in trying 714 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: to do a lot of different stuff, what can your 715 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: players handle? And so Mike Nolan, without the benefit of 716 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: an off season, he's going to have to experiment. The 717 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: first quarter of the season may look ugly on defense 718 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: while he's trying to figure out what guys can handle 719 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: and process and do. And then as he narrows their 720 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: focus and says, Okay, we can play this handful of 721 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: coverage and stuff. We're just gonna major in that. That 722 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: is the trick. Mary Nelly and Christophe Shart, they tried 723 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: to say, hey, we're only gonna do this so you're 724 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna do it over and over and get good at it. 725 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: It can work. It didn't work last year. But for 726 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: Nolan to be able to pull this off, he's gonna 727 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: have to have a clear understanding the words guys can 728 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: handle from a middle standpoint. All right, So what I 729 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: got from that is just get smarter and more experienced players. 730 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: What I got from that whole thing. But but you've 731 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: seen that though you saw them, they got a worldly 732 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: they got makes sense, makes sense. They brought Kennedy over 733 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: Tray Digs played in the system that was multiple at Alabama. 734 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: You can say the same for what Robinson playing in Tulsa. 735 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: They're used to playing in systems that require them to 736 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: do a lot of thinking, a lot of changing and adjusting. Well, 737 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: we are about to go to break here in a 738 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: couple of minutes, but real quick, before we go to break, 739 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: I did want to ask you about the free agent guys. Well, 740 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: you talked about the rookies and the guys that you've 741 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: done all these count and reports on, But what would 742 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: be a free agent veteran guy that has caught your eye. 743 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: It's important free agent that they sign. Maybe Cameron Irving 744 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: and the reason why is he's a jack of all trades. 745 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: He can play all five positions along the offensive line. 746 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: In the case of an injury, he could be the 747 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: swing player that has to go up and play. And 748 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: because he can play anywhere from left tackle, guard, center, guard, outside, 749 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: he is a very valuable player. And it's one of 750 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: those signings that everyone will kind of shrug their shoulders 751 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: in the off season, but when you get to the 752 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: mix down the stretch week ten eleven, when you have injuries, 753 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: having a player that can do a bunch of different 754 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: things could be a huge asset. He is a very 755 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: very valuable piece that they brought off. That's not the 756 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 1: guy I was expecting you to say, And so that's interesting. 757 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: And you're right though, Joe Looney was that guy. He 758 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: was that backup to two or three spots, and if 759 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: he has to start now, tamer and Irving is a 760 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: guy you want your backup lineman. Even though they've changed 761 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: the rules that you have to have eight guys active, 762 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: you still would like to have a guy that can 763 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: do multiple things like that. I think that's that's a 764 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: great point. I was expecting. I was trying to figure 765 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: out which defensive guy you were going to throw out 766 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: I thought, I thought you might say Kennedy. Honestly, I 767 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: think he's an unforgotten player because he is going to 768 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: be a key core member to the special teams. Murray's cannedy. 769 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: He absolutely he has to be. They have to be 770 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: better in special teams. And here's the thing. Without OTAs 771 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: and all the things, you cannot put young guys on 772 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: special teams because early in the year you'll see a 773 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: block punt, you see a punt return, you see a 774 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: kickover return, something that ultimately decides the game. You need 775 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 1: to have veteran players that really want to be special 776 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: teamers on your special teams. He is a core player. 777 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: I think he should ultimately emerge as a special team's captain. 778 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: His ability to make plays in the kicking game could 779 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: deside a game or two. And so keep your eye 780 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: on him and figure out which other guys that are 781 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: backup players can emerge and really make solid contributions to 782 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: the kicking game. Which you know, that's it's ironic, like 783 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: I'll eat some robe as a as a as a writer, 784 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: like you go back a few years, we used to 785 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of dog the Cowboys when when Richstacchio was the 786 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator like he had like seven guys who 787 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, the core special teamers like didn't do anything else. 788 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: And you're like, you know, whether it was Kyle Wilber, 789 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: James Hannah, Jeff Heath before he got the nod to 790 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 1: be a starter, We're like, how many with Andrew gash 791 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: Cars another one? Absolutely are like, how many of these 792 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: guys that don't play offense or defense do you need? Well, 793 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: they all left and joined rich in Oakland and the 794 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys special teams got really that so maybe the answer 795 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: is you do need a handful of those fantasies. And 796 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: I'll say, well, say that it's about about last year's 797 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: staff and our last year's special teams as they were 798 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: not good. We know that it's been documented, but one 799 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: of the problems they had was they had a little 800 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: bit of an issue at the coaching staff of coaches 801 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: that wanted their players to be focused on a position 802 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: and not special teams. It wasn't an all in, buy 803 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: in situation. There was too many players that were not 804 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: starting that were like, I don't want to play special teams. 805 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: That's a problem. Darren Woodson played special teams for about 806 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: ten years and he was a starter for every one 807 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: of his seasons except for the first one. So it's 808 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: a mindset that's got to be you know, it's got 809 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: to be changed too. And that starts at the top. 810 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: That starts at the top. You talk about Darren Woodson, 811 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: all those the other with Jimmy Johnson, they put their starters. 812 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: Every starter has to play on at least one special 813 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: team as a starter. So your defensive starters tend to 814 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: be played on put team because they got to go 815 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: down and cover in tackling. This very important, not to 816 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: flip the field. You have defensive starters own kickoff and 817 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: in return, like it has to be a very important 818 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: part and to make the roster, it has to be 819 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: one of those things that early in training camp your 820 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: head coach has to stand up there and say like, look, 821 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: we may have twenty two starters, but the rest of 822 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: you guys for you to make it, you have to 823 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: be able to make special teams contributions and eventually work 824 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: your way as a backup. Special teams buys you time 825 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: to earn the right to be a rotational player as 826 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: an offensive or defensive player. But special teams has to matter, 827 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: and because you have arguably the best special teams coach 828 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: in football coming over. You can best believe that the 829 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys special teams are going to be good with bones 830 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: falls so taken over. Thank you so much, Bunky. I 831 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: know you gotta get moving and go do some other things, 832 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: and we do need to take a break, so thank 833 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us today and bringing in 834 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: some of your wisdom, because Derek doesn't bring wisdom so 835 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: all of the time. So thank you. 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And this first 876 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 1: question is kind of long, so just better with me. 877 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: With the possibility of an even higher octane offense this 878 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,240 Speaker 1: next season, how do you see the Boys using Tony 879 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: Polar will McCarthy using in more creative packages? Is he 880 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: a bigger receiving threat out of the backfield than Zeke? Okay, 881 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: answer that last part. Yes, I think so. I mean 882 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: I think he's more dynamic in space and with the 883 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 1: ball in his hands. I think he's got better home 884 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: run speed. So yeah, absolutely, And it kind of goes 885 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: back to the whole question about you know, the defense 886 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: is like, I mean, I haven't seen anything. I don't know, 887 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 1: but I really hope so. And I trust Mike McCarthy's 888 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 1: track record because what they did with Tony last year 889 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: just wasn't good enough for a guy that's that talented. 890 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: And and I mean, look, I know Zeke's going to 891 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: be the lead dog, and he should be. He's great, 892 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: but uh, you gotta find a way to get a 893 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: guy like Tony Pollard at least half a dozen touches 894 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: a game. Um, whether you know he can he can 895 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: move out into the slot, he can catch out of 896 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: the backfield. He's very He's a damn good traditional running 897 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 1: back kick returner. I keep saying, I think it doesn't 898 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: seem like it should be that hard to teach the 899 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: guy how to return punts. I don't think he ever 900 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: did it in college, but it does. I mean, I 901 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: feel like you could learn if you spent some time 902 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: with a jugs machine and a special teams coach. Um. So, 903 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: in fact, I would have sorry, go ahead, I'm rambling. 904 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: I just said I would agree with you on the 905 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 1: on the punt return if they didn't draft ceedee Lamb. 906 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: I think he is a perfect guy that could sit 907 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: in there. But but you're right, I mean, he can 908 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 1: jump in there. My thing about Tony Pollard is it's 909 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: just like you said, he's a better receiver, and yet 910 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: he is a better receiver, but he won't get as 911 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: many catches as Zeke because Zeke will be on the 912 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: field more and it'll create those mismatches. I think the 913 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: better that Pollard is as a traditional runner, stronger, he 914 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: gets better vision. He's a guy that can put in 915 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: to run the ball. Then he can open up and 916 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: do so many other things. If he's just a gadget player, 917 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: you kind of know what to expect. But Kamara was 918 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: so good because Kamara could run the ball right between 919 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: the tackles. It wasn't just Ingraham and then Cammar did 920 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: other things. If Pollard can do other I mean he 921 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: can do everything, then I think he can do a 922 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: bunch of other things as well. Well. They can create 923 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: on that and that's where McCarthy steps in because I mean, 924 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 1: we saw what Kellen Moore did last year, so you 925 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: still have Kellen Moore in charge there of the offense. 926 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: So hopefully watching from last year and having McCarthy's voice 927 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: it brings up new creative plays for them to use 928 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: with Pauler. Now, I do have this other question, what 929 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: is a new wrinkle that you would like to see 930 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: the offense do that they can look at this Sorry, 931 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: this question was kind of worried differently, but basically, what 932 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: is something that you see from other teams offense that 933 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys could maybe bring on their own offense and 934 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: do themselves. I think, um, you've got well, one thing 935 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 1: that you can do is you can put a big 936 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,959 Speaker 1: defensive tackle on there and he can catch the ball 937 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: and a wildcat formation information to throw it. I mean, 938 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: we've seen Dontari Poe do that. You know, We've seen 939 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: Blake Bell do that at college. I don't think, you know, 940 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: I think it's too early to talk about wrinkles and 941 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: all that stuff, but I would say that you're tied 942 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: end can be can do more things because you got 943 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: You've got better athletes at the tight end position than 944 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: you did it in the path. So I could see 945 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: different things down the seal using eleven personnel at times. 946 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: But also I don't know if you go thirteen, but 947 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: I do think that you'll see multiple tight ends out 948 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: there and going down the field more than they have. 949 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: I got, all right, this isn't even this isn't even innovative. 950 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: It's it's like pretty basic. But I would love to 951 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 1: see the Cowboys do it because they refused to under 952 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: James Garrett, I'm stealing this from my buddy like White 953 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Um, they ran upward of sixty percent on 954 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: first down in the vast majority of their games last year. 955 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: It was even as much as eighty percent in a 956 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: few of their games. If you remember, they just refused 957 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: to do anything but charge Zeke Elliott into the line 958 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: on first and ten against Minnesota all night long. It 959 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: was the only thing they did. If they could just 960 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 1: bring that percentage down, throw on first down, play action 961 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: on first down, I think that would help Dak Prescott tremendously. 962 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: I think it would make the offense more dynamic. Not 963 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: to say Zeke won't be a part of it, but 964 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: just be a little less predictable, and I think it 965 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: would be a long way. William just texted me. William 966 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: Boykins is part of our staff. He's listening to this 967 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: show and he's like, here's one thing. Run the quarterback. 968 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: Run Dak Prescott. Hell yeah, well that too. And I 969 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: know you make him susceptible to injury if you do 970 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: it too much, but he has game changing ability as 971 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: a runner. The dude's got twenty one rushing touchdowns. How 972 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: much easier does that mean, especially in the bed zone, 973 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: you know where you know, three yards is the difference 974 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,879 Speaker 1: between kicking a field goal or scoring a touchdown. It's 975 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: just way too valuable to ignore that. It seems to 976 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,280 Speaker 1: me I've seen him plenty of times be a little 977 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: more successful when making those passes on the move. I 978 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: mean he can throw while on the move. Saying well, 979 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if I know William at all, 980 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: he's probably trying to get the weather Wayne to join 981 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: us and replace Bucky. But um no, I think Dak's 982 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: best throw ever and Dave, I think we'll agree, was 983 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: the one that he threw to to Cole Beasley in 984 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: the the end of the Giants game and the end 985 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, rolling left, throwing to his right thirty 986 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: five yards down the field, uh to win the game 987 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: or to save the game and then win it with 988 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: a two point conversion. You're right, he's strong enough where 989 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: his body doesn't always have to be set perfectly to 990 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: make that good throw. People are still wondering about what 991 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are you gonna keep doing in free agency? 992 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: We know that free agency technically isn't over. You know, 993 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,439 Speaker 1: there's player acquisition all throughout the year. As we hear 994 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: from Steven Jones all the time. So are you guys 995 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: hearing anything or do you expect any of the Cowboys 996 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: to bring in another player during the free agency that 997 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: could come in and help out a certain position. Let 998 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: me guess, Let me get one guess of who they want, 999 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,959 Speaker 1: because he's still out there ahead, Dave. I mean, you're 1000 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: you're thinking Clowney, but don't forget about everything Griffin either. 1001 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 1: They're both there. Yeah, well green Clowney asking for I 1002 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 1: mean forty million a year, Like, what's he asking for that? 1003 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 1: Nobody's won a team. I think I think he's probably 1004 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: made peace with the fact that he's not going to 1005 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: get what he wanted when this all started. And at 1006 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: this point, I don't know exactly what he's waiting for, 1007 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: but I assume he's got a handful of offers. And 1008 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's not like he's really missing 1009 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 1: anything by not signing you. Um, I, like I said, 1010 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what he's waiting for, but I'm 1011 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: sure he's got a few choices to pick from him. 1012 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be the Cowboys. That's 1013 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, people people have been asking since March. You 1014 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,280 Speaker 1: know well, Oh, I mean, if we cut Tyrone Crawford, 1015 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: can we go after Clowney. I'm like you, they could 1016 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 1: go after Clowney right now if they wanted to, they 1017 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: could do it. Yeah. Our producer, our producer, Chris Being 1018 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: pointed out too that I ever seen Griffin played for 1019 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: George Edwards with the vice. Honestly, I thought it made 1020 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: a lot of sense because of George Edwards. Um, you know, 1021 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: he's a veteran player. His price probably isn't gonna be 1022 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: as crazy as as some of you know, as some 1023 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: guys could be when they the open market. I would 1024 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: be in support of it for whatever it's worth. And 1025 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: the longer this goes, maybe it would be a discount 1026 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: of enough price that it's possible. But I think it's 1027 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: highly highly unlike and I don't think that, you know, 1028 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,439 Speaker 1: thinking about what Zimmer used to play, I don't think 1029 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 1: it would be the same type of scheme. Now again, 1030 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: if you've said all along, just get the guy in 1031 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: here and let's see what he can do, you know. 1032 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know exactly what ever seen griffin 1033 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: body type is, but I'm sure they can find a 1034 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 1: place for a good football player, whether between money. I 1035 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: mean honest, mainly money, because like Jadeveon Clowney can do 1036 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 1: whatever you want. I mean, he can play, he's he's 1037 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: a scheme proof player, I think. But I just you know, 1038 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't see it happening mainly because of the amount 1039 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: of money that you'd have to commit when I mean 1040 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: we're still having the DAK contract just hanging over our 1041 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: heads and just kind of waiting what happens there with 1042 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: that on a waiting status? Does that kind of stop 1043 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: you from trying to sign anybody else through free agent? 1044 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 1: See at the moment, well, you wait to see how 1045 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: how much money goes in there. I don't really, like 1046 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: I said, I mean, they could they sign those guys 1047 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: right now if they wanted to. Like, you can always 1048 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: find a way to finagle the cap in your favor 1049 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: if you really want to do it. Dak's negotiation isn't 1050 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: stopping them. They just feel fine with what they have, 1051 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 1: Like clear, I mean they think the world Caldon Smith, 1052 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: They're very excited about that potential, and he is costing 1053 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: like a fraction of a fraction of what they would 1054 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: have to pay to Deaveon Clowney. Um, I don't think 1055 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: it has anything to do with DAK. I think they 1056 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: just feel fine with what they have and what they're 1057 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: paying for we have. Sorry, Nick, I was going to 1058 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: change the subject, So if you want to go ahead, 1059 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,399 Speaker 1: go ahead. All right. So the last question, since that's 1060 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: the time we have left, other than the obvious, who 1061 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 1: are the starting secondary? If you had to choose to 1062 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 1: if you're playing tomorrow and I you're playing tomorrow and 1063 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 1: I start the game. No, this is like when we 1064 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: had to rank the cornerbacks for one of our slide 1065 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: shows that we did like a week or two ago, 1066 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 1: and it was the worst. I mean I I mean, okay, 1067 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 1: if they're playing tomorrow. If they are playing tomorrow, which 1068 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 1: is obviously absurd, but that's the rule, then I'm gonna say, uh, 1069 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: cheeto and ab on the outside with Jordan in the lot, 1070 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 1: and then ha and Xavier Woods and safety probably. I mean, 1071 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: how can I how can I lean on a rookie 1072 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 1: and Trayvon Diggs who's never even practiced in the NFL 1073 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: to play a game. I agree with you there. I 1074 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: think that's the easiest way for us to do this. 1075 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: But I have been told that Daryl Worley is great 1076 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: it out. Uh better than than a lot of the 1077 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: cornerbacks on the team. So, uh, you know, new coaches, 1078 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: new new scheme. Maybe Worley comes in and you know 1079 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: they're not really playing favorites. Maybe he comes in and 1080 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: has a chance to to, you know, play over maybe 1081 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: a Cheeto or or Anthony Brown. But but you're right, 1082 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: I think it's it's that combination there, and then we'll 1083 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: see what does and how quickly that he jumps into 1084 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: the situation. But safety wise, I don't I don't really 1085 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: see anybody else moving in there. I mean darry and Thompson. 1086 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: Maybe I always try to get there in Thompson, and 1087 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 1: I like him. I think he's a good player, But 1088 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: I always forget about it. I mean, who would you 1089 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: out of the group, who would you say has the 1090 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: better hands? Just based on what you've seen in the NFL, 1091 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: that we've seen from previous veterans and based on these 1092 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: guys that have played in college, just kind of laying 1093 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: all those out, who would you see how who would 1094 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: you say has better hands to kind of get the 1095 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: ball and create some turnovers right now? Yeah, Jordan, Jordan's 1096 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: got great hands. I know he doesn't have a lot 1097 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: of picks he also that hasn't played a lot of 1098 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: staffs intercepting. He had the turf I mean against the 1099 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 1: Bears last year. I mean that looked like a wide receiver. 1100 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he is him, he's got good hands. W 1101 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: Worley might have a few, and I mean, you know, 1102 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I didn't I mean I didn't 1103 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: realize this, honestly. Uh, Clinton Dix has had three different 1104 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: seasons where he had three or more picks. Uh, he 1105 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 1: had three twenty eighteen, he had three and twenty seventeen, 1106 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: and he had five when he was a pro bowler 1107 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: for Green Bay in twenty sixteen. So that's really encouraging 1108 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: because last year, last year, he yet last year he 1109 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: had two. Yet two last year. It's fine, not amazing, 1110 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: but it's fine. It's two more of them, somewhat better 1111 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: than the two. More than a lot of people that 1112 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 1: have played for the Cowboys, that's for sure. There's been 1113 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: years where two has had led the team or at 1114 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 1: least time. So I'm looking at Worly Worley, it's never 1115 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: had more than two. Actually, he's only got five career interceptions, 1116 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 1: So not as good as I thought. Last question time 1117 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: is ending, But and this one is just for the 1118 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: fun of it, I guess because there's no really telling. 1119 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 1: But with the new coaching staff, well they finally select 1120 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: or choose to be for every single time when they 1121 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: win the coin flip. You know what's you know what's 1122 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,919 Speaker 1: you know what's funny is uh In twenty sixteen, they 1123 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: took the ball a lot and they scored an opening 1124 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: touchdown a lot, and it really worked in their favor. Like, 1125 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, the team was so controlled by the offensive 1126 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: line and zeke, you get an early lead and you 1127 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 1: get to dictate the game and that I mean, they 1128 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: won a lot of games comfortably by having a you know, 1129 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: two possession, three possession lead at halftime and they just 1130 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 1: grind people down. So it's not always a terrible idea, 1131 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 1: but it's usually a terrible idea. So like Glad dere's 1132 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: not in here. If you wanted you all day on 1133 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: this one, I'm not. No. I mean, you should defer 1134 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of the time, But if 1135 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: you believe in your offense and you want to set 1136 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: the tone for a game, sometimes I can see the 1137 01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: logic behind you. Remember when McCarthy was hired like nine 1138 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: years ago over here whenever it feels like the long ago. 1139 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: But the big term was analytics. Cowboys are gonna do analytics, 1140 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, and so that's that's my answer, is what 1141 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,439 Speaker 1: does the analytics say. You know, they're gonna they're gonna 1142 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 1: cross the numbers and money ball this thing and whatever 1143 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: it comes out, that's that's what they'll probably do. I agree. 1144 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: I like kicking off and setting the tone on defense, 1145 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, but you know, especially at home because that's 1146 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: when the crowds in their seats and ready to go. 1147 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 1: But then again, this year, who knows what the situation 1148 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 1: will be. I think the analytics probably say you should 1149 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: always differ. If I had to puss palytics also say 1150 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: you should you should go for it on fourth down 1151 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: all the time. But I tend to a if you 1152 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: want to, if you want to hop into that conversation, 1153 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: like I basically think you should go for it anytime 1154 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: you're if you're at midfield or closer, you should go 1155 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: for it. That's just my opinion. It's like I'm unless 1156 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 1: it's like eight yards or further, like if it's fourth 1157 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 1: and thirteen, you should probably punt, but eight yards an end, 1158 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: you should probably go for it. Just my opinion anyway. Sorry, 1159 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: all right, you should get on the headsets on game days. 1160 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: I've been trying. You don't tell these guys how to 1161 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 1: deal and they'll ask for my opinion, but that maybe 1162 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 1: they should. Okay, guys, thank you so much for tuning 1163 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 1: in today. I know times are tough right now, but 1164 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: hopefully we were able to bring you some little space 1165 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: away from everything that has been happening currently. So thank 1166 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: you so much for tuning in with us. Thank you Dave, Nick, 1167 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Chris Beam for helping us, and Bucky Brooks for joining 1168 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: in today's show. This has been Cowboys Break on Dallas 1169 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of 1170 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.