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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lully. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and it is a Thursday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Lots of news and notes to get to Matt.

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Speaker 2: The coast off.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers have are putting together a package for the

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Speaker 1: league to express their interest in hosting the either twenty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six NFL Draft or twenty twenty seven NFL Drift.

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Speaker 2: How cool is that?

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Speaker 1: That'd be awesome?

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Speaker 2: That would be awesome. I mean such a big event now,

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Speaker 2: I know, like Tennessee and Vegas and some of these

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Speaker 2: places have had hundreds of thousands of people from all overcome,

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Speaker 2: and obviously it's great for the city, but it'd be

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Speaker 2: fun for all involved. I mean, that'd be a blast.

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Speaker 1: It'll be fun for us. I mean that would be

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Speaker 1: great for us too. Maybe do some drives from over

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Speaker 1: around there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we do a ton of draft coverage anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's right up our alley. You get to

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Speaker 1: see everything happen unfold in front of us. I wass

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Speaker 1: get asked, though, where are you covering the draft from?

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Speaker 1: I'm at the team facility. Everybody I need to talk

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Speaker 1: to is you know, at the Steelers facility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Same, Yeah, I mean all the radio stuff right there,

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Speaker 2: right by the coaches area upstairs, and you know, not

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Speaker 2: day one obviously, but after that players, newly drafted guys

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Speaker 2: come sit with us. That's great. I run down stairs

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Speaker 2: do a video usually and no it works, not great,

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Speaker 2: and they feed us.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, but yeah, it's so that would be awesome.

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Speaker 1: That'd be awesome, think for.

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Speaker 2: The city, for everybody.

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Speaker 1: When Nashville had it a few years ago, they drew

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Speaker 1: like six hundred thousand people.

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought. I was hesitant to say the numbers,

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Speaker 2: but I knew it was crazy numbers way way up there.

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Speaker 2: Huge party and a lot of fun, and that should

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Speaker 2: be would be really cool. I guess it'd be down

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Speaker 2: by the stadium, right yeah.

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Speaker 1: Be it right next to stage AE in that area.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just block everything off and just totally make

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Speaker 2: it a big to do an event.

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Speaker 1: Bands and yeah, all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sign me up.

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Speaker 1: For the city. Be great for the Steelers, be great

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Speaker 1: for Steeler fans.

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Speaker 2: No, I think the Vans here would eat that up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that'd be really cool.

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Speaker 1: It happened in Cleveland a couple years ago.

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Speaker 2: Why can't we do it exactly. We'll do it better. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like everything else. Yeah, So Wine, that's good news. I

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Speaker 2: mean that's promising. Hopefully that works out from one of

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Speaker 2: the two years you said.

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Speaker 1: Huh one of the two.

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Speaker 2: Okay. I don't know how you put in for it.

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Speaker 1: I mean you say, hey, you just have to be

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Speaker 1: you put in a put a package together and basically

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Speaker 1: here's what here's this is how we would do it.

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Speaker 1: You know, here's what we think would happen. How many

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Speaker 1: people we would draw.

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Speaker 2: Then either year would be fine. You know, you can

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Speaker 2: handle either year. Okay, nice, I hope it works out.

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Speaker 1: We also now have the schedule for that be week fifteen. Okay, right,

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Speaker 1: that was the Indianapolis game for the Steelers. As we

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Speaker 1: had expected there, that is going to be a four

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Speaker 1: to thirty game on Saturday, December sixteenth for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: The whole whole schedule that weekend will.

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Speaker 2: Be that's indian Indiana Indianaps.

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Speaker 1: So that weekend we'll kick off with Chargers at Raiders

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So the Thursday night game wasn't even set like

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Speaker 2: the whole way it was set that one had.

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Speaker 1: To be right, then they have the three there were.

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Speaker 1: There were some games there that they left open on

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Speaker 1: the dates. Yeah, and the possibility was that they would

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Speaker 2: Which is smart because I mean, we got stuck all

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Speaker 2: these Jets game thinking we're gonna to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, we haven't, and there's no college football that weekend,

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Speaker 1: so this monopoly. Yeah, So Saturday is all NFL football,

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Speaker 1: starting with the Vikings at the Bengals at one o'clock

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Speaker 2: So those are all standalone games, yes, the triple header, okay,

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Speaker 1: And then the night game is Denver at Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Which is pretty good one too. Yeah, the last two

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Speaker 2: I just don't ay. I guess the Bengals just don't

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Speaker 1: Anymore, you know. Right then they moved Atlanta at Carolina

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Speaker 2: So there's no Sundays at fours, No, there are okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: but those were the games that they those were the

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Philadelphia at Seattle.

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Speaker 2: That's the best of all of them. I mean that

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Indianapolis is gonna have could have some serious playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Oh it definitely could. Definitely could. Yeah, makes a lot

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Speaker 2: of sense that would be a standalone Saturday second tier game.

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Speaker 1: So good, So we finally get that out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Get the Steelers practice report from today, right, Uh so

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Speaker 1: we got can you pick at a full participant again today?

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Speaker 1: Alan Robinson back today after being a not practicing yesterday

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Speaker 1: for a Veterans day off, and uh, you know, Eddie

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Speaker 1: Falker went out of his way today to praise Alan Robinson.

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Speaker 2: He said get that.

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Speaker 1: He said, we you know, at our meeting, our team

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Speaker 1: meeting the other day, I specifically called out Alan Robinson

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Speaker 2: you know, just hey, people weren't recognizing his contributions to

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Speaker 2: I was really hard on Alan Robinson earlier in the year, thinking, boy,

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Speaker 2: he's the type of player that opposing defenses want to

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Speaker 1: But Deontay Johnson doing that or Calvin.

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Speaker 2: Austen right, of course, so they're really using him a

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Speaker 2: Juju exactly exactly. I mean, they wanted that guy to

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Speaker 2: be Claypoole. He didn't really ever block anybody, but he

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Speaker 2: here's what's interesting to me, is it correlated with the

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Speaker 2: running game really picking up. And it's one of several

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Speaker 2: and therefore you get Nickel or Dime. So therefore Washington's

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Speaker 2: So I always kind of wondered, how are they going

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Speaker 2: and I'm not knocking Robinson at all, Friarmuth becomes your

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Speaker 2: Kelsey and just basically replaces Robinson to some degree. But

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Speaker 2: what you don't know is then teams are going to

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Speaker 2: say you're in twelve and then they get heavier on defense,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you lose that size advantage

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Speaker 2: thing you had. So I think that they're playing that well.

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Speaker 2: You know, we saw some thirteen this past week. Friar

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Speaker 2: at what expense. I mean, we'd have more twelve, more thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Then that means receivers aren't gonna be out there. But

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Speaker 2: the whole thing's kind of taken shape, and I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Deontay Johnson had an illness today. He didn't in practice.

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Speaker 1: Calvin Austin was limited today. He did not practice yesterday,

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Speaker 1: ankle injury. Make a Fitzpatrick with the hamstring, full participants again,

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Speaker 1: practice today, he practiced yesterday. Montrevius Adams a full participant

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Speaker 2: That's tackle rotation is nasty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Cam Hayward was giving a given another

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Speaker 2: Yea, it's after Thanksgiving. He'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't need to play or practice anymore.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals samoth Benton, but especially throwing guys around. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: interior line for the Cardinals, needless to say, is suspect.

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Speaker 2: Let's be kind and you know, I mean Connor is

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Speaker 2: mean that might be their biggest advantage in this whole game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they'll have a few, but that's going to

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Speaker 1: be a big one of their offensive line against Arizona's

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Speaker 1: So Yeah, I just you know, get get Hitt cam

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Speaker 2: I don't know much, but I mean I don't think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just you know, you don't he doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: his body first of all.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's in maximum effort and be totally prepared

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Speaker 1: Yeah, See the Cardinals this week released zach Ertz, just

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Speaker 1: Brown's offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, former pick quarterback quarterback

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I was saying though about Flacco is

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Speaker 2: You won't make any plays with your legs, but we'll

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Speaker 1: Van Pelt said, I think there's still a lot left

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Speaker 1: His last start came last year for the Jets, was

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Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. But even the Jets

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Speaker 2: No, No, I mean DTR. You could at least have

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Speaker 1: He's not dynamic at all.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, He's gonna take a lot

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Speaker 1: And Joe Flacco's thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: But it makes me feel old, man. I mean I

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Speaker 1: If you would have told me that in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: I would have thought he's a Hall of Famer like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I just don't see things ending well

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Speaker 2: I don't either. And I don't care if they're the

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Speaker 1: And I think if that's the uh, like, if that's

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Speaker 2: I mean, Steelers better than those teams. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Are at No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: It's the bottom line here, yeah, not at all. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, uh, you know, if the Steelers can again

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Speaker 2: Oh, you put two back to back wins here, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of what can happen here, Like Philadelphia can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it has to. They're really kind of in

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Speaker 2: You have to take care of those two games. I mean,

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Speaker 2: get that. But that's as easy as the two game

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 2: I mean at home, really right, doesn't scare me.

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Speaker 1: Who else could they be playing here other than maybe Carolina.

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Speaker 2: The Giants I think are still in that neighborhood even

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Speaker 1: Moving pointing to this all season, all off season, we

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Speaker 1: Would you rather be starting right now, Joe Flacco or

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're stretching here, but this is not what

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like if Matt Ryan comes out of retirement

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's good for football or anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, somebody wants to pay him money to do it.

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Speaker 2: Right, makes wonder. Chase Daniel does a podcast now for

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Speaker 2: the Athletic and he's good. He talks. It's just a

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Speaker 2: And there's one hundred guys like them, you know, Colt McCoy,

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Speaker 2: winter is coming. But if I have a Chase Daniel

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Speaker 2: sitting there making five six seven million dollars on my bench,

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Speaker 2: I think that's what you have to have.

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Speaker 1: Somebody who's a legitimate quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody who's now games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea if this guy even knows

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Speaker 1: how to line up and get the play in the game.

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Speaker 2: Not to mention, I mean when the when the injury occurs,

446
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Speaker 2: it's the first play of the second quarter. Oh no,

447
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 2: we didn't practice the backup at all. I mean, at

448
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Speaker 2: least like Brown Steelers, you could get DT already. You

449
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 2: could find out what he likes, you know, otherwise you

450
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Speaker 2: get thrust in there. That's what I mean. The Chase

451
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Speaker 2: Daniels the worlds have done that their whole career. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 2: being the first guy off the benches brutal. I mean

453
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Speaker 2: mister Bisky's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, becoming that guy too. Yeah, you're okay,

455
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Speaker 1: You're fine. I mean, you're gonna he'll get you. Not

456
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Speaker 1: only will he get you in and out of the game,

457
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Speaker 1: but give you a chance to at least win it.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna go oh man, we're gonna lose these

459
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Speaker 1: next two games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something to be said to be in a

461
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Speaker 2: lifetime backup in that you prepare differently, you get way

462
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Speaker 2: less opportunities throughout the week. I mean, you're thrown out

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Speaker 2: of the bullpen. Now go go win it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, we'll be

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Speaker 1: joined by the Lord of living in his fears, Bob Labriola.

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Speaker 1: Can Bob live in his fears regarding the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out right after this. Welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale, LOLLI. He is the Matt Williamson, and

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Speaker 1: we are now joined by the low word of living

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Speaker 1: in his fears, Bob Labriola. And Bob, if you're living

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Speaker 1: in your Fears this week. I'll be really interested to

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Speaker 1: see how you're doing that.

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Speaker 4: Well. I mean, look, let me let me say it

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Speaker 4: this way. Uh, I think you know, the Steelers are

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Speaker 4: a team. They can win a lot of games this year,

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Speaker 4: and I've seen them win a pretty pretty decent number.

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Speaker 4: But there are also a team that can lose any

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Speaker 4: game they played, and I've seen that happen this year too,

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Speaker 4: So I mean, this, this is just this is just

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Speaker 4: the way the league is, and especially how the Steelers

483
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Speaker 4: individually fit into how the league is this year. So yeah,

484
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Speaker 4: this is this is one of those games where turn

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Speaker 4: turning the ball over a few times early, or hey, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't know how about this snapping the

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Speaker 4: ball over the quarterbacks you know from skirmmings. I mean

488
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Speaker 4: we've seen that too and kind of got the ball

489
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Speaker 4: rolling the wrong way down the hill. So anyway, but

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Speaker 4: you know, I I have I want to believe that

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Speaker 4: they're going to take air of business on Sunday. I

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Speaker 4: really do. But as I said, I was there in

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four. When you can't go one that as

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Speaker 4: a championship game, there's no such thing as can't happen.

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Speaker 2: So along those lines labs. I doubt we'll get a

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Speaker 2: chance to talk to you next week. Short week, you know,

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Speaker 2: Patriots come to town, which game worries you more.

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Speaker 5: I really haven't considered the Patriots at all, so rough

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Speaker 5: to I know they are, and you know, they don't

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Speaker 5: seem to have that.

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Speaker 4: Whatever it is. Maybe it's maybe it's they don't have talk. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but there's nothing. There's not I don't really have haven't.

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Speaker 4: Let me say like this, I haven't seen anything from

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Speaker 4: the Patriots all year that I would fear from Belichick especially.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's not He may be a tactical genius,

506
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Speaker 4: but he doesn't have the people, the quality to execute

507
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Speaker 4: any of that stuff anymore. And uh, it's just hey,

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Speaker 4: without Tom Brady, Bill Belichick is the guy who got

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Speaker 4: fired in Cleveland because Vinie testa Verdi was his quarterback.

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Speaker 4: That's that's Bill Belichick. I mean, you can the master

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Speaker 4: or you know whatever, how many Super Bowls he won

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Speaker 4: and this and that, but that's also a description of

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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick. Without Tom Brady, he was just a guy

514
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Speaker 4: who got fired in Cleveland because he had Vinny Testaverdis

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Speaker 4: the quarter.

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Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be a guy that got fired in

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Speaker 1: New England.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think to me what Robert Craft would

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Speaker 4: do about, you know, this particular thing. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: would think he would be savvy enough to try and

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Speaker 4: orchestrate some sort of exit that is not as harsh

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Speaker 4: as that, because let's not forget what the Patriots weren't

523
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Speaker 4: before Belichick was on the scene. I hear you, you

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Speaker 4: know so, but you never know.

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Speaker 2: But does he remind you of like end of career

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Speaker 2: Landry at this point, or one of those guys the

527
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Speaker 2: legends that just the game never passes these great guys

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Speaker 2: by I mean, they'll forget more football than any of

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Speaker 2: us ever know. But it just I mean I was

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Speaker 2: younger and I just remember Tom Landry at the end

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Speaker 2: and just kind of ugly at the end.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, well, you know what is he seventy one?

533
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Speaker 4: It's you know, I'm not you know, Sula.

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Speaker 3: You know you still have.

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Speaker 4: There's there's still spurts of flashes when you know when

536
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Speaker 4: however you want to say it, but you have to

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Speaker 4: have some players right now. He's got none. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know School's influence over the player acquisition aspect,

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Speaker 4: but Belichick is I mean, he is a meglomaniac, he

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Speaker 4: is it? I mean that was always the thing to me.

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Speaker 4: It was so ridiculous when you know spygate and they

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Speaker 4: always said, well, you know, they didn't get anything out

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Speaker 4: of it. Why what are you worried about? I'm thinking,

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Speaker 4: are you kidding me? Bill Belichick is not getting that.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's doing something that's not directly benefiting their

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Speaker 4: chances to win, right right, he would be doing something else,

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Speaker 4: you know, whatever, whatever it is. So you know, let

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Speaker 4: me say this. If I was the owner and Belichick

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Speaker 4: was my coach and he had done what he had

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Speaker 4: done for the franchise, my franchise, I would not fire him.

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Speaker 4: I would think of something else.

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Speaker 1: Well, the problem is that he's also built a GM.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean you know, maybe you know Craft does that.

554
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Speaker 4: And since I'm hiring a general manager, director of player

555
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Speaker 4: person or whatever you want to call, you know, and

556
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Speaker 4: he's going to be significant, significantly involved in our player

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Speaker 4: acquisition moving forward along with me, you know, create a

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Speaker 4: little committee. If Belichick doesn't like it and he wants

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Speaker 4: to quit, well then that's fine. But I wouldn't cut him.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't fire.

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Speaker 2: Him, Bob.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think or what did you think

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Speaker 1: of the Steelers offense offense in Cincinnati? Did you see

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Speaker 1: major differences? You know, was it what you expected to see?

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Speaker 4: What I've said this, I said this with Wolf and Max.

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Speaker 4: It looked better, it looked different, But you know what,

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Speaker 4: I still need the I still needed the defibrillator there

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Speaker 4: in the last two minutes of Again, it was still

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Speaker 4: a game, you know, four hundred yards or twenty two yard,

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Speaker 4: four twenty two whatever.

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Speaker 3: It was yards and attack and deep down in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the field to the tight end, notheless, you know,

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Speaker 3: running the ball to the one two, running punch, you

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Speaker 3: know all that happy stuff, and uh, it was still

575
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Speaker 3: a game where the outcome of one play could have

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Speaker 3: changed or you know, one play could have changed the outcome,

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Speaker 3: and you would like the offense that did a lot

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Speaker 3: of the good things that the offense did that day.

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Speaker 4: Score some more points. I mean, that's just to me

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Speaker 4: that that's the most basic and necessary part of offense.

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Speaker 4: And you know all the others. Again, they looked better.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of good things to say about it,

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Speaker 4: but you got to score more than one touchdown. You've

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Speaker 4: got to be better than one from four in the

585
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Speaker 4: red zone. You just you can't turn the ball over

586
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Speaker 4: down there. There's a lot of different things. You've got

587
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: to catch the ball in the end zone, you know,

588
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: with both feed and bounds, and don't pull at Jesse

589
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 4: James and give them an opportunity to do what they did.

590
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Speaker 4: You know, if you don't lose the ball as you

591
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: as you make contact with the ground, it's a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: There's no replay, there's no you know what I mean,

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00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 4: there's none of that drama that then led to whatever

594
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 4: it led to that ever happens, you know, make the

595
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: play and so but anyway, you need to see more

596
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 4: things like that that are going to generate more points

597
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Speaker 4: because you know, let's just let's pretend want to know

598
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Speaker 4: how the Steelers can lose on Sunday the Arizona score

599
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Speaker 4: sixteen points, or score thirteen points like they did against

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Speaker 4: the Browns, or excuse me, ten points as they did

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Speaker 4: against the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this, this Arizona defense isn't that Browns defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it, But there's a lot of you know,

604
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: a lot of weird stuff that can happen. It's supposed

605
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: to rain. Don't get me started. Don't get me started.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the Cardinals have given up fifty four red zone

607
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: trips this year, Bob, They've allowed thirty two red zone touchdowns.

608
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: That's more touchdowns allowed in the red zone. Then the

609
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: Steelers have red zone trips this year.

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Speaker 4: They are well, I mean, yeah, again, I get all

611
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: the statistics I do, and what I'm pounding on is

612
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Speaker 4: that the offensive line will just be able to handle things.

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Speaker 4: And if you can do that and st yourself up

614
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Speaker 4: to win the attrition game, you got Nause and Jayleen Warren,

615
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Speaker 4: and I think that that component is working very good.

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Speaker 4: I think Nause he needs to be recognized for what

617
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: he is. What's in my mind is a tone cetter.

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Speaker 4: You know, Bill Kauer referred to him in the pregame

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Speaker 4: that the day of the game against the Bengals as

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Speaker 4: a closer. You know that's that that was the word

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Speaker 4: Kyli used. I don't know that. I think that he

622
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Speaker 4: can be used in the same way in that respect

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Speaker 4: as Bett as was, you know, through Staley. I prefer

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Speaker 4: to look at Nause cass as a tone setter. Use

625
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Speaker 4: him earlier, maybe, but use him, put him in situations

626
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Speaker 4: for his shoulders and square to going on the scrimmage

627
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Speaker 4: and let's get him to the line of scrimmage clean

628
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Speaker 4: and let's see what happens. You know, give him fifteen

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Speaker 4: to seventeen carries like that. And I think that with

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Speaker 4: this offensive line and Darne Washington and you know, some

631
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: of the other components that they're developing in terms of

632
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: the perimeter blocking and stuff, I think that can be

633
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: a tone setting thing and really kind of get the

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00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: team off on the right foot towards beating anybody they play.

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Speaker 2: So labs along those lines. The outside corners for the

636
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: Cardinals are really rough, and Pickens and Johnson have great advantages,

637
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: especially on the outside. However, their run defense is also

638
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: really bad. And to your point, with nause and controlling

639
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and the big personnel and all

640
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: that stuff, it wouldn't shock me if they run this

641
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: thing run fifty times in this game, forty minutes of

642
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: time and possession, and maybe that only ends up with

643
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: twenty points on the board. But just controlling the game

644
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Speaker 2: and not worry about getting Kenny completions or any of

645
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: that stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, No, right, I agree with you one hundred percent.

647
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Speaker 4: I just think if they do everything that you said,

648
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 4: they're going to have some red zone opportunities, and they

649
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: need to be able to cast those into more than

650
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: twenty points. I mean, it's okay to be I don't know,

651
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: four for four in the red zone. You know that

652
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: that works too. That's not against the rules right now,

653
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Speaker 4: right so you know what I mean? You know, catch

654
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Speaker 4: the ball, don't fumble it. You know that's because they

655
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: were right there in those situations in the last game.

656
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: You know, catch the ball in the end zone, don't

657
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: fumble the ball in the red zone, and you know,

658
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: maybe you have twenty eight points.

659
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a that's a good recipe for success.

660
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you feel like his team is

661
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: trending in the right direction now? I mean we're seeing

662
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Speaker 1: some of the younger guys, the Keanu Bentons, the Porters,

663
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: the Broderick Jones, these guys. I think Mike Tomlin and

664
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: the coaching staff handled some of this stuff pretty well

665
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: early in the season, not putting them in there too

666
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: early so that they don't hit that rookie wall in

667
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: late November. They seem like they're just getting better each week.

668
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Speaker 2: And Labs I can jump in real quick. That's kind

669
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Speaker 2: of what I was going to ask you too, with

670
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: with your knowledge the history of this team year after year,

671
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: is there many years you'd be more optimistic about a

672
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: rookie class going into November than this one. No, go

673
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Speaker 2: into December.

674
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Speaker 4: I mean this is this is a very good rookie

675
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 4: class and it's it's playing very well at this point

676
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Speaker 4: in the season. Let me just add on to that,

677
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 4: you know, in terms of you know, looking at the

678
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: rookies as a talent acquisition, saying I think the team

679
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: has done a very very good job of fortifying itself,

680
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: you know, in the practice squad moving up to the

681
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: active roster area of the season where uh, you know,

682
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: to help you get through some injuries. Trenton Thompson, Michael Walker.

683
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: I mean, these are some guys that are decent finds, developments,

684
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: you know, whatever you want to call them. Yes, their

685
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: success stories, and they're contributing. And you know, to me,

686
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting. Now it looks like Minka

687
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: maybe he's coming back this weekend.

688
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Speaker 1: Uh.

689
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Speaker 4: You know, you've got Trenton Thompson, You've got k Z,

690
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: You've got uh, all of a sudden, now you're safety's

691
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: Patrick Peterson. Because it looks like your corners you can

692
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 4: play porter Jr. And I don't know. I still think uh,

693
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: Patrick Peterson in a facing the opponent role is his

694
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: is his best potential position. But yeah, I think that

695
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 4: this team has done a really good jog rookies, uh

696
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: and then kind of filling in with the practice squad

697
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 4: really as the as uh training camp in the preseason ended,

698
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: and then developing some of those guys uh and having

699
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: them ready when you needed them when the injuries came.

700
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, that you know, we were talking about New

701
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: England and the you know, acquisition phase that Belichick is

702
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 4: really ruining or doing it very poorly, you know, for

703
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: this particular year, I think that the Steelers have done

704
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: a really really good job in that respect.

705
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just that that depth that you know they

706
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: built in the offseason. I mean they've they've used a

707
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: lot of those guys. You know, Landon Roberts was you know,

708
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: wasn't expected to be a full time player. He's been

709
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: a full time player in the last few weeks and

710
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: he's been good.

711
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, He's been a very versatile all situations inside linebacker.

712
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the guy who's played every snap

713
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 4: since Cowan Alexander was injured. So yeah, he's he's handling.

714
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: You kind of knew he was going to be a

715
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 4: thumper just from what you saw over the summer. But

716
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy is also very much a factor

717
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 4: in coverage.

718
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: He's also kind of quarterback in the defense right now,

719
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: which is easy to do.

720
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Green Dot guy, that's what I mean, playing

721
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: every snap. This is Yeah, this is the real Uh.

722
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: He's everything that you want at that position right now.

723
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's a man. I don't know how long

724
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 4: his contract is, but he's a guy that's been a

725
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: good one. Get really, he's been a good one that

726
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 4: I think you want to pick him around as much

727
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: as possible.

728
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Speaker 2: And one of the reasons he's been so successful is

729
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: the D line in front of him, I think is

730
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: maybe the most underrated group on the team. Like I

731
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: think Watts has had a really good year, Adams went healthy,

732
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: has had a really good year. And if they're your

733
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 2: fourth and fifth guy behind Ogan, Joby, Benton and Cam

734
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: that is a really strength of this team that maybe

735
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: they don't record a ton of sacks or tackles for losses,

736
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: but they make it all go.

737
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're very difficult, you know to control. And

738
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Speaker 4: I think that if an offense cannot control the line

739
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: of scrimmage, it's a recipe for disaster. It's a kicking

740
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: time bomb, whatever cliche you want to use, because at

741
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 4: some point, if you're not in control of what's going

742
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: on up front, some of those names that you just

743
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 4: mentioned are going to make a play that's going to

744
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: really hurt you. Because those those guys are in a

745
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: position on the field, their proximity to the football and

746
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 4: the people who always are handling it that they can

747
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: really do some damage if if you don't have them

748
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 4: under control. So yeah, that's and that it's a it's

749
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: a very deep defensive line and supposedly more travous the

750
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 4: ad more trevious. Adams is looking like he's been a

751
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 4: full participant yesterday and today, so he's certainly trending in

752
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: the in the right direction. So just give you again,

753
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: strengthen numbers and you can rotate those guys in and

754
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: out and if Arizona it does not handle them, you

755
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 4: know that'll also bode well for Steelers. Went on Sunday.

756
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've just really and we kind of thought this

757
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: was going to be the case in the off season.

758
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: It just took a little while for the offensive line

759
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: to get there, but they really fortified both lines in

760
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: the off season and it's it's paying dividends right now.

761
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, Mike Tomlin was talking to me

762
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: about this once, you know, it was earlier mentioned. I

763
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 4: don't know which one of you guys, you or Dale,

764
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 4: you or Matt talking about the rookies and how they

765
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: hadn't been thrown onto the field right away, you know,

766
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: working them in and that kind of stuff. But Mike

767
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 4: Carmlans said that, you know, that's that part of the consideration,

768
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 4: you know, when you're trying to bring these rookies along,

769
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 4: is if you can get away with not using them early,

770
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: then you can create a situation for them where it's

771
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: like another college season, you know, twelve games and then

772
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 4: maybe a game or two after that. You know, you

773
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: get around twelve fourteen games. That's a college season for

774
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 4: a top program, and you know an NFL schedule is

775
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: longer than that. So if you can keep them, you know,

776
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 4: not I'm not saying you're benching them, but if you

777
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: don't absolutely have to play them and go for the

778
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: first few weeks of a season, then you can really

779
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: have these guys playing at maybe their full potential at

780
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 4: this point in their development. You know they're going to

781
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 4: need some time to work their bodies and minds into

782
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: the length of an NFL schedule. So for right now,

783
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: those rookies, it probably is beneficial to them for it

784
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: to be and you know that part of it to

785
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 4: be the same because the game's different, it's more complex,

786
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: the athletes better they've got dealing with all of that stuff,

787
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: but at least the length of things are similar, so

788
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 4: you know, their bodies can I don't know, not be

789
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: beaten up board right, minds as well. So yeah, it's

790
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: working out, uh, pretty well. And it's not happenstance that

791
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: it's working out.

792
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: This way either, No, I don't think so.

793
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, armchair coaches out there listening and writing, The.

794
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Speaker 2: Last thing I got for you is, has bos surpassed

795
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: Gary Anderson is best dealer kicker of all time? I

796
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: mean that happened.

797
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 4: Well, and there are others, yeah, you know, I mean

798
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: you look at Gary Anderson's actual numbers. Jeff Reid had

799
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: better numbers, sewn sweeze them had better numbers. Boswell for

800
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 4: sure had better numbers.

801
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: Sure, but some of that's kicker revolution too. I mean

802
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: the whole league's gotten better.

803
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, I get it. But Gary Anderson wasn't

804
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: kicking caballs, So there's that. But I just thought Gary

805
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: Anderson is remembered for his career and when you really

806
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: get down to Gary Anderson's Anderson's career, only a portion

807
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 4: of it was in Pittsburgh. I mean he kicked for

808
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 4: the Eagles, he kicked for the Vikings. So yeah, in

809
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 4: Steelers history, in my opinion, Steelers kickers or kickers, what

810
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: they did for the Steelers. I would take Boswell over

811
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 4: Gary Anderson. I would take Sean Sweeze them over Gary Anderson.

812
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: And I would probably take Jeff Reed over Gary Anderson

813
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 4: even you know, there was some crazy there. The guy

814
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 4: was the guy was money in the playoffs though. Oh yeah,

815
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: Boswell's one boss. He's one hundred percent.

816
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: He's never missed a playoff.

817
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, But.

818
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: I mean, Sweeze the man and Reed both have very

819
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: good numbers too.

820
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Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna let you go, Bob, or Little God

821
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: take you. We could talk to you all day, you

822
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: know that. Uh, but we got to let Bob Labriola

823
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: get back to his life of living in his fears.

824
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 4: Uh So, thank you very much.

825
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: Appreciate. We appreciate, Bob Labriela. All right, I'll see you Sunday, Bob.

826
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Speaker 1: That was Bob Labriola. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lellye.

827
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828
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835
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Speaker 1: injury report here for the Arizona Cardinals, all right, and

836
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 1: it doesn't look particularly pretty here. Uh So, then yeah,

837
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Speaker 1: for them, it looks okay for this from a Steeler standpoint.

838
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: So Mark Keith Brown did not practice for the second

839
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Speaker 1: consecutive day. He's dealing with the heel injury.

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00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: So we were mentioned real quick. I mean they're going

841
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: into a bye so they may hold some of these

842
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: dudes out went in doubt.

843
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, segment the stretcher on the last four.

844
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: So they can really flourish.

845
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton, one of their cornerbacks, did not practice. He's

846
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: dealing with a groin injury. Trey McBride, Uh, he's dealing

847
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: with a groin. He was limited today. He did not

848
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: practice yesterday, so he'll probably play this week. Zach Pascal,

849
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: he's dealing with a personal issue. He did not practice

850
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: again today. That's two days in a row for that.

851
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: Starling Thomas, who's another of their cornerbacks, did not practice.

852
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: To the corners, Jayalen Thompson, who is one of their

853
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: starting safeties, he's got a limp injury. Didn't practice on Wednesday.

854
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: He was limited today. Michael Wilson, who's.

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Speaker 2: Their h.

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00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: Promising young traffick Yeah, first first year player. He did

857
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: not practice again today. He's dealing with a shoulder injury.

858
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: Joey Blunt, who's another of their safeties, was limited today,

859
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: as was defensive lineman Kevin Strong and offensive lineman Elijah Wilkinson.

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00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: I mean they're all clusters, they're all pass catchers and corners. Yeah,

861
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: I mean all the little guys. The pass catchers in particular,

862
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: like Marky's Brown's a good player. If they don't have him,

863
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: I mean, McBride's gonna get thirty targets. Just put Minka

864
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: on McBride the whole game. Yes, I think so, and

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Speaker 2: so maybe no matter what. Yeah, I mean as much.

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Speaker 1: Although his since Kyler has been back in their lineup,

867
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: McBride's targets have gone down each week.

868
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: Each week, I know, I know, I mean he's still but.

869
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: If they don't have anybody else, I mean, you throw

870
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: the ball at Greg Dorts or am I going to

871
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: throw it?

872
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: McBride and the Steelers have been great against tight ends too.

873
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: I mean their completion percentage and all that stuff's really good

874
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: against tight ends. I mean, Brown was really slow the

875
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 2: first Kyler games, and then it was back to being

876
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: a featured receiver. I don't know why he wasn't to

877
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: begin with. But it's not good.

878
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: No, it is not good. Yeah, and yeah, as you mentioned,

879
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have their buy coming out of the game

880
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: against the Steelers. So maybe if there's if a guy's

881
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: dealing with a little bit of something or something that

882
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, hey we can I don't know that they're

883
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: trying to win this year.

884
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: I don't think they are. I don't think they were

885
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: from the beginning. I mean, but like.

886
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior would look.

887
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: Very good, great for that, and I think there's a

888
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: real good chance that happens. I don't know how you

889
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: evaluate Kyler though. I mean, if it comes down to

890
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: it's probably a whole much bigger conversation with your time

891
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: for But if it's Drake may or Kyler and trade them,

892
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know enough about Murray under

893
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: these kinds.

894
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they're kind of married to a contract anyway

895
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: because of the contract, So I think you got to

896
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: kind of live with that for even if it's a year,

897
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: another year or two.

898
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: Every the owner might have said Kyler's our quarter Yeah.

899
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: Everybody talks about quarterback classes like, oh, this quarterback class

900
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 1: is really going to be great, and then two years later,

901
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: this is a this quarterback class you know, there's always

902
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: got great.

903
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it just is.

904
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: It's just the reality of it.

905
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: But financially they are pretty much married to Kyler.

906
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they they made that decision a couple

907
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: of years ago when they you know, they extended him,

908
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: They extended the head coach, and they extended the GM

909
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: two of which are gone, two of which are now gone.

910
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and Gannon was brought in to work with Kyler, right,

911
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: you know, I mean that was part of the deal.

912
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: So now they're getting an opportunity to do it. And

913
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, he missed a good portion of this season apparently.

914
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, everything that I've heard about him this year

915
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: is that he's it's all been much more, much more engaged,

916
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: engage all that stuff.

917
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he's probably growing up. He was a young

918
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: man that was kind of things came easy to him early.

919
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: You know, he's a baseball player too. Maybe I'll go

920
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: play with for the ads first round picking two sports.

921
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, he's got.

922
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: To go for him.

923
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't happen often. We're gonna get to another

924
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: break here as Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lolly. That's

925
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: gonna do it for our number one of the drive.

926
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: We will be out back with our number two right

927
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Speaker 1: after this