WEBVTT - The Coming Baby Deficit

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jason Kelly. It's time for this week's cover story. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>in the early days the pandemic, with lockdowns forcing couples

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<v Speaker 1>to spend so much quality time together, you might have

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<v Speaker 1>expected America to have a baby boom. But a few

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<v Speaker 1>months later, the opposite is proving true. America is looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a big baby bust. While some one fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>Americans have died because of COVID, Brookings estimates that the

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<v Speaker 1>US will have as many as five hundred thousand fewer

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<v Speaker 1>babies next year. The economic implications of that deficit will

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<v Speaker 1>linger long after the pandemic ends, as fewer babies means

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<v Speaker 1>fewer consumers, fewer workers, and fewer taxpayers. In a time

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<v Speaker 1>The coming baby deficit, the COVID nineteen crisis may leave

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<v Speaker 1>a lasting imprint on us or till the trends taking

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<v Speaker 1>a toll on growth. By Peter Coy Pandas and white

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<v Speaker 1>rhinos aren't the only creatures that are unsuccessful at mating

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<v Speaker 1>in captivity. The folk wisdom that humans will copulate when

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<v Speaker 1>left with nothing else to do, dubbed the blackout babies theory,

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<v Speaker 1>surfaces regularly in the immediate aftermath of disasters, but the

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<v Speaker 1>baby boom never materializes. The COVID nineteen pandemics spawned predictions

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<v Speaker 1>that stay at home orders would eventually deliver a baby bump,

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<v Speaker 1>Yet far from having more children than usual, Americans are

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<v Speaker 1>expecting fewer in bedrooms across the US, Couples are making

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<v Speaker 1>decisions that in the aggregate, could prove as consequential for

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<v Speaker 1>the long term health of our economy as those taken

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<v Speaker 1>by policymakers in Washington. Fewer children now means fewer consumers, workers,

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<v Speaker 1>and taxpayers in the future, in other words, a smaller

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<v Speaker 1>economy than otherwise, though also a smaller environmental footprint, which

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<v Speaker 1>brings its own rewards. Wolfgang Lutz, an Austrian demographer, warned

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six that European nations were at

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<v Speaker 1>risk of falling into a fertility trap, in which there

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<v Speaker 1>are fewer women alive to have babies, Smaller families become

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<v Speaker 1>the social norm, and low population growth reduces economic growth,

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<v Speaker 1>fostering a pessimism that further suppresses the birth rate. It

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<v Speaker 1>appears that Denmark, among others, has taken Lutz's message to heart.

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<v Speaker 1>A public service announcement urges older Danes send your child

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<v Speaker 1>on an active holiday and get a grandchild within nine months.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time Lootz raised the alarm, the U s

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<v Speaker 1>seemed well clear of such a trap, with a total

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<v Speaker 1>fertility rate of two point one children per woman, what

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<v Speaker 1>demographers call the replacement rate versus one point five for

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<v Speaker 1>the European Union. Now that the US rate is below

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<v Speaker 1>one point seven, that's no longer assured. Unromantic as it sounds,

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<v Speaker 1>planning a family is a numbers exercise that factors in

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<v Speaker 1>the age of the would be mother, access to affordable childcare,

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<v Speaker 1>college costs, income and job security. Toss in a national

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<v Speaker 1>health emergency and an economic crisis that invites comparisons to

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Depression, and the benefits of parenthood no longer

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<v Speaker 1>pencil out for many. The Guttmacher Institute surveyed about two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand American women in late April and early May and

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<v Speaker 1>found that wanted to delay pregnancy or have fewer children

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of the pandemic that outweighed the seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>percent who said they wanted children sooner or more of them.

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<v Speaker 1>In June, the Brookings Institution released a study predicting the

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<v Speaker 1>US is headed for a large, lasting baby bust. Its

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<v Speaker 1>researchers forecast there will be three hundred thousand to five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand fewer children born in the US than there

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<v Speaker 1>would have been absent the crisis, which amounts to a

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<v Speaker 1>decrease of roughly ten from That means the number of

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<v Speaker 1>babies never born is likely to greatly exceed the number

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<v Speaker 1>of America kins who have died from coronavirus, which is

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<v Speaker 1>now about one fifty thousand. The effect on population will

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<v Speaker 1>be longer lasting as well. Many of the babies who

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<v Speaker 1>aren't being born would have lived into the twenty second century.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people I know at work and friends

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<v Speaker 1>are saying they don't want to have children until this

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<v Speaker 1>is over, says Tory Marsh, director of research at good

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<v Speaker 1>r X, a price comparison and coupon site for prescription

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<v Speaker 1>drugs based in Santa Monica, California. Marsh postponed her wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>which had been scheduled for November. Because of the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>it is definitely pushing back the timeline for babies. She says.

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<v Speaker 1>If couples fully make up for lost time by having

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<v Speaker 1>more children later, this drop in the birth rate will

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<v Speaker 1>end up being just a blip. But demographers predict that many,

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<v Speaker 1>if not most, of the births that are delayed will

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<v Speaker 1>never be made up. There is this Panglossian narrative that

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<v Speaker 1>delayed births will tend to recover, but statistically it doesn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>says Lie in Stone, chief information officer of Demographic Intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>a consulting firm whose clients have included Procter and Gamble

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<v Speaker 1>and JP Morgan Chase. Lack of time is the most

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<v Speaker 1>important reason the birth rate is unlikely to revert back

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<v Speaker 1>to trend once the pandemic is over. While young women

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<v Speaker 1>will still have plenty of years to give birth to

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<v Speaker 1>their desired number of children, older ones will need to

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<v Speaker 1>space births more tightly to reach their targets. In their

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<v Speaker 1>remaining fertile years, some will run out their biological clock

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for baby making conditions to improve. Every time that

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<v Speaker 1>people decide to push back when they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>their first kid or their next kid. Some proportion will

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<v Speaker 1>end up not having the child at all, says Karen Guzzo,

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<v Speaker 1>a sociology professor at Bowling Green State University and acting

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<v Speaker 1>director of the Center for Family and Demographic Research. For

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<v Speaker 1>couples who are already parents, says Guzzo, the longer you

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<v Speaker 1>wait to have your second or third child, the harder

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<v Speaker 1>it is to say, oh, I'm ready to have babies again.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, you know what, my family is complete. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy with what I have. In the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the twentieth century, the pattern in the US and elsewhere

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<v Speaker 1>was that fertility tended to fall during recessions and then

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<v Speaker 1>bounced back when the economy recovered. Demographers expected that to

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<v Speaker 1>happen after the two thousand and seven to two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine recession, which at the time had been the

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<v Speaker 1>deepest since the Depression. People put off having children during

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<v Speaker 1>the economic downturn and then catch up on fertility once

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<v Speaker 1>economic conditions improve, Pew Research Center wrote in October report.

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<v Speaker 1>But the pattern broke. The post recession rebound never came,

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<v Speaker 1>even as the U s economy staged the longest expansion

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<v Speaker 1>on record. Birth rates for women in their twenties, which

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<v Speaker 1>had dropped twenty five or more during and shortly after

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<v Speaker 1>the recession, kept falling and they stayed flat for women

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<v Speaker 1>in their thirties. Had pre recessionary fertility patterns been sustained through,

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<v Speaker 1>there would have been six point six million more births

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<v Speaker 1>and nearly three million more women would have had their

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<v Speaker 1>first child over the last eleven years, says Kenneth Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>a sociologist and demographer at the University of New Hampshire's

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<v Speaker 1>Carci School of Public Policy. Early indicators point to the

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<v Speaker 1>birth rate moving down another notch in this recession. The

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<v Speaker 1>Wedding Report says its surveys show that slightly over sixty

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<v Speaker 1>of weddings scheduled for have been postponed until later this

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<v Speaker 1>year or one that's bound to delay some couples from

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<v Speaker 1>starting a family. Also, when the pandemic broke out, birth

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<v Speaker 1>control providers reported an increase in sales from people stocking

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<v Speaker 1>up in case of shortages. Some sources have also seen

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<v Speaker 1>a bump in demand for long lasting forms of birth control.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pill Club Holdings logged a sixty increase in June

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<v Speaker 1>in new patient requests for an overa a vaginal ring

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<v Speaker 1>that prevents pregnancy for up to a year. In the US,

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<v Speaker 1>contraception has generally been available to those who need it,

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<v Speaker 1>in contrast to the situation in poor and middle income countries,

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<v Speaker 1>where disruptions and access to birth control may result in

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<v Speaker 1>as many as seven million unintended pregnancies in just half

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<v Speaker 1>a year, according to an April estimate by the United

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<v Speaker 1>Nations Population Fund. Planned Parenthood Federation of America has seen

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<v Speaker 1>an increase in demand for abortion pills, according to doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Gillian Dean, senior director of medical Services. She says several

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<v Speaker 1>women have come to her for help to end pregnancies

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<v Speaker 1>that they would have wanted to continue were it not

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<v Speaker 1>for the economic fall out of the pandemic. With almost

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen million Americans out of work as of June, it's

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<v Speaker 1>no wonder many couples might not be in the mood

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<v Speaker 1>for procreating. Demographer Sergio Della Pergola has documented a tight

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<v Speaker 1>statistical correlation between optimism and fertility in Israeli society. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg u S National Economy Expectations Diffusion Index, which gauges

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<v Speaker 1>consumers economic outlook, crashed below thirty in April and May

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<v Speaker 1>from fifty seven in February, recovering to thirty eight point

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<v Speaker 1>five in July. Not everyone will wring their hands at

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of all those missing children. Some environmentalists may

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<v Speaker 1>view the US birth dearth as good for the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Each American consumer is responsible for about three times the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of greenhouse gas emissions as a Chinese consumer, according

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<v Speaker 1>to a nineteen report by the United Nations Environment Program.

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<v Speaker 1>A twenty seventeen study from Sweden's Lund University published in

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<v Speaker 1>Environmental Research Letters found that having fewer children is the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing that people in rich countries could do for

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<v Speaker 1>the planet, far more effective than buying an electric car

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<v Speaker 1>or refraining from air travel. On the other hand, each

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<v Speaker 1>child who's wanted but not born is some Famili's quiet tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Surveys such as the National Survey of Family Growth show

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<v Speaker 1>that the average American woman wants two children, or possibly three,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how long it lasts. The COVID nineteen crisis

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<v Speaker 1>may compel many women not to fulfill that design. Fire

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<v Speaker 1>For the economy, fewer future workers will entail a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>burden on each one to support future retirees. Every two

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<v Speaker 1>tenths decline in the total fertility rate. That is too

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<v Speaker 1>fewer children per ten women necessitates an increase in the

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<v Speaker 1>social security payroll tax of about point four percentage points.

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<v Speaker 1>According to a table in the annual Report of the

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<v Speaker 1>Trustees of the Social Security Trust Funds, slow or negative

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<v Speaker 1>population growth tends to depress economic dynamism, some economists argue.

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<v Speaker 1>In a research paper published in January, Charles Jones, a

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<v Speaker 1>professor at Stanford University's Graduate School of Business, posits that

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<v Speaker 1>so called natalist policies, such as offering couple's financial incentives

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<v Speaker 1>to have more children, could spell the difference between an

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<v Speaker 1>expanding cosmos of exponential growth in both population and living

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<v Speaker 1>standards and an empty planet in which incomes stagnate and

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<v Speaker 1>the population vanishes. It's worth noting that countries, including hungry

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<v Speaker 1>Poland and more recently Russia, have had little success in

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<v Speaker 1>reversing declining fertility rates with subsidies. Even when the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>is over, many of the factors that have pushed down

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<v Speaker 1>fertility rates in the US will remain in place. Those

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<v Speaker 1>include the penalty to women's careers for having children and

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<v Speaker 1>the high cost of childcare, education, and health insurance. Childcare

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<v Speaker 1>is particularly salient for couples who already have one child

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<v Speaker 1>because they're more aware of how problematic it is, says

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<v Speaker 1>Bowling Green's Guzzoh. In some states, childcare is more expensive

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<v Speaker 1>than college. As important as child care is pandemic related,

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<v Speaker 1>federal aid given to the sector has been less than

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<v Speaker 1>the sum given to Delta Airlines. University of Michigan economist

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<v Speaker 1>Betsy Stevenson told Politico Magazine any attempt to divine the

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<v Speaker 1>future of fertility is complicated by the fact that there

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<v Speaker 1>are different ways to measure it, and sometimes they contradict

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<v Speaker 1>each other. One indicator that's pointing strongly negative is the

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<v Speaker 1>number of earths, which hit a thirty five year low

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<v Speaker 1>last year and is likely to be even lower this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Another is the total fertility rate, which is a snapshot

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<v Speaker 1>of the birth rates for women of all ages in

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<v Speaker 1>a given year. It has fluctuated wildly over the past century.

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<v Speaker 1>It was three point thirty one at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>World War One, fell to two point fifteen during the Depression,

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<v Speaker 1>rose to three point sixty eight in nineteen fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>fell to one point seventy four in nineteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 1>then rose to two point one two in two thousand seven.

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<v Speaker 1>At that time just before the financial crisis, the U

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<v Speaker 1>S rate was among the highest of the wealthy nations.

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<v Speaker 1>A total fertility rate of about two point one the

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<v Speaker 1>replacement rate is what's required to stabilize the population over

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<v Speaker 1>the long term, but the two thousand seven peak in

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<v Speaker 1>fertility was short lived. The rate fell in the last

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<v Speaker 1>recession and kept going down after it, falling to one

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<v Speaker 1>point eighty nine and twenty eleven and hitting one point

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight last year. The fact that the total fertility

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<v Speaker 1>rate has fluctuated widely suggests that there's at least a

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<v Speaker 1>possibility its next move is up. That's what the Social

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<v Speaker 1>Security Trustees are banking on. Their twenty twenty annual report,

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<v Speaker 1>which was prepared before the pandemic, makes an intermediate projection

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<v Speaker 1>that the total fertility rate will rise to one point

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five by twenty twenty nine and then stay there

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<v Speaker 1>through twenty ninety five, the end of the forecast period.

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<v Speaker 1>In an emailed statement, Social Security Chief Actuary Stephen Goss

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<v Speaker 1>cited the surveys that women want two or more children

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<v Speaker 1>that suggests that the current reduction in the total fertility

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<v Speaker 1>rate will not be permanent. He wrote, setting aside the

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<v Speaker 1>current crisis, it's possible that today's twenty something women intend

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<v Speaker 1>to have babies at later ages than their mothers or

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<v Speaker 1>older sisters did. If so, that wouldn't be reflected in

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<v Speaker 1>today's low total fertility rate. The total fertility rate is

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<v Speaker 1>a tricky concept. It's the number of children an imaginary

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<v Speaker 1>woman would have over her lifetime if likelihood of having

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<v Speaker 1>a baby in each year of life matched what the

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<v Speaker 1>birth rate is now for women of that age. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>at sixteen, she experiences the birthrate of today's sixteen year olds.

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<v Speaker 1>At thirty eight, she experiences the birth rate of today's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight year olds. In contrast, the easier to understand

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<v Speaker 1>completed fertility rate measures how many babies women actually have

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<v Speaker 1>over their reproductive lives. That number has stayed high. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>women who are forty nine years old have had two

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<v Speaker 1>point one children on average, which is a bit higher

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<v Speaker 1>than the forty nine year olds of a few years ago. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>women who are undergoing fertility treatments are as determined as

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<v Speaker 1>ever to have children. Eva Pensi Moog, thirty one, a

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<v Speaker 1>user experience designer from Chicago, says some of the older

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<v Speaker 1>women in her infertility support groups are literally in a

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<v Speaker 1>race against the clock to collect as many eggs as

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<v Speaker 1>they can before they're gone. Julie christ thirty nine and

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Anderson thirty one, of Bristol, Connecticut, it who have

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen month old son, are trying for another child

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<v Speaker 1>via in vitro fertilization. Sometimes we ask ourselves, what the

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<v Speaker 1>heck are we doing. The world is so weird, says Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>You can call it naive. We want kids with Alexander

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