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Speaker 1: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 1: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 1: a sibling.

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Speaker 3: Revalry.

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Speaker 4: No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, revelry.

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Speaker 2: That's good, Oliver.

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Speaker 5: I feel like this is our first political interview, like

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Speaker 5: an interview with someone in politics. Yeah, we don't like

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Speaker 5: getting into polic We're not.

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Speaker 1: This is not We're not a political podcast. I don't

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Speaker 1: talk about politics. We don't talk about politics.

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Speaker 6: I like, can't stand politics.

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Speaker 1: I don't like politics.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's because I feel like we should be interviewing all

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Speaker 5: kinds of politicians.

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Speaker 6: I don't care which side of the aisle you're on. No,

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Speaker 6: great right, I want to open the door.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you deal with the political sides of things,

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Speaker 1: and I will just talk about looking how good looking

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Speaker 1: we both are. So I'm going to go social. I'll

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Speaker 1: be the social guy and then you can do the

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Speaker 1: hard hitting politics.

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Speaker 6: Oh god, don't do that. I can't.

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Speaker 1: You are You're way more opinionated than I than I

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Speaker 1: am in the political arena.

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Speaker 6: Only around the dinner table. I don't need to take

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Speaker 6: this into Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't like I'm a humanist. I'm not a political

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Speaker 1: I'm not a politician. I'm a humanist. I go human

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Speaker 1: first party second. Okay, well all right, yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's introduce yeah, bring him our new our guests today, we.

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Speaker 3: Have Gavin Newsome. It's not a threesome, it's a twosome.

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Speaker 3: I think my belly is a gruesome. His sister, Hilary

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Speaker 3: Govin news let me rest on your bosom.

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Speaker 6: Never heard that before. Oh my god. Look if he

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Speaker 6: runs for president, he's got a new toy. Hello, welcome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we went on, we went in on the joke.

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Speaker 1: I was just I like, I want to know, I

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Speaker 1: make up songs all the time, and I was like.

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Speaker 6: Just inappropriate, inappropriate.

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Speaker 3: It was you can't, Gavin Newsom, I want to rest

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Speaker 3: on your bosom.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm getting.

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Speaker 7: I'm here for you, I'm here, We're out.

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Speaker 2: Canal.

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Speaker 8: That's amazing.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to our podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if you do decide to run for president, I

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Speaker 1: would like that to be your jingle.

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Speaker 9: Like yeah, or you just perform it at the inauguration

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Speaker 9: if you exactly.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, who's going to be a Trump's inaugural. What's who's

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Speaker 8: the entertainment this year?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It be hard to talk his last one.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 5: Inadvertently was out of Trump rally by going to the

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Speaker 5: UFC match.

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Speaker 6: Anything like that. My kids like, Mom, we want to

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Speaker 6: go to UFC. I was like, cool, let's go. And

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Speaker 6: I had no idea.

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Speaker 8: Crazy.

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Speaker 6: Wow, I'd never experienced such energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good PC word.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and I it was.

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Speaker 5: It was really something I'll tell you.

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Speaker 7: But it's yeah, I mean they he's completely co opted

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Speaker 7: that sport, hasn't he.

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Speaker 2: I mean completely, It's it's an aggressive sports I know.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well he's been, I mean he's he's been

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Speaker 1: with Dana White for a long time now, he's.

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Speaker 7: Been, you know, Dana White after the election said I'm

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Speaker 7: tapping out of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because there's a lot more, you know, a lot

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Speaker 8: need any of that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, not at all.

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Speaker 8: So what's going on with you too?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 9: I just want to start by saying I came into

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Speaker 2: If that's a foundation for our relationship. I just wanted

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Speaker 8: But there are seven of me different stages of my life.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know what's funny about that is this

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Speaker 1: it's that sort of black sheep mentality of well, who

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Speaker 7: You know, by the way, you no, no bs, You

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Speaker 7: actually believe that, don't you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What he knows?

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Speaker 1: I know? Yeah? Does Does she tell you that?

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Speaker 8: Or is that like a quiet thing she does? Just

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Speaker 1: I feel it?

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Speaker 6: Gavin? Can I call you that? Governor?

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Speaker 9: Governor Gavin, I don't. Yes, I'm not comfortable with politicians.

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Speaker 9: My name is new scum according to Trump, so he

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Speaker 2: Afford to meeting him and saying Hillary new scum.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I'm actually I'm petitioning to change our last

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Speaker 8: I have problems.

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Speaker 7: You got it, easy, man, You got like fancy sister

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Speaker 7: thinks she's stuck with me and everyone that hates me,

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Speaker 8: Again recall all that. She's like, oh you're not.

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Speaker 7: I mean she literally some going to places, not kidding,

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Speaker 8: Go god, I hope you're not related to that Gavin. Now,

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Speaker 1: Course, I are you crazy? Well, actually, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: who am I? Why did I do this? No?

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Speaker 8: I'm so sick? How are you talking about? Nothing? I

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Speaker 7: I've been doing this forever, and I'm remember like the

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Speaker 7: get your body burning effigy that's like a real life

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Speaker 7: And so I've been at this forever and Nobs, I

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Speaker 8: I just don't believe that.

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Speaker 9: I was at the Balboa Cafe and we were I

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Speaker 9: I said, send them around a beers on Hillary Newsom

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Speaker 9: And he called me five minutes later he goes, God,

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Speaker 9: I wish you were here. All of them are like, no,

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Speaker 9: That is aw So I try and kill him with kindness.

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Speaker 9: Every once in a while I will call my brother

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Speaker 9: I was a bit of a Karen at Target, you know,

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Speaker 8: There are a couple of people that like me, though

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Speaker 8: I'm not one.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 7: Literally three months ago someone said, you know, they were like,

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Speaker 9: I'm very like when I'm with him, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 7: Lune he ever said so and that really that just

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Speaker 8: And then you know, my daddy hates.

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Speaker 8: That's hard.

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Speaker 7: And that's where I think, that's where these are the

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Speaker 7: Mayor days. I mean, there was a different level of

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Speaker 7: respect for institutions, for people, even if you disagree with them,

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Speaker 7: even though you went after them, but then you know,

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Speaker 7: at dinner, you didn't go after them. At a sporting event,

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Speaker 7: you didn't go after me. You didn't go after the kids.

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Speaker 7: Now there are no damn lines, man, It's just free

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Speaker 2: No I would I go.

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Speaker 9: You sead up to Sacramento to see the soccer games

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Speaker 9: with him and his kids, and like, why are you

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Speaker 9: hiding in a tree? He's like, I don't all be

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Speaker 9: yelled at just to be able to watch his kids

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Speaker 9: play soccer the worst.

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Speaker 8: Now this is like therapy. By the way, let me

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Speaker 1: People open up here. I don't know, but I'm.

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Speaker 8: Like, okay, and I'm down. I got nothing to complain about.

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Speaker 8: I just shut up.

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Speaker 7: But this, this soccer thing, this was serious. This is

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Speaker 2: Wait are you paying well?

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Speaker 6: I mean this, that's why you're doing it because it matters.

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Speaker 8: Yeah? No, bullshit. I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 8: That's why you do this stuff things like that seriously.

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Speaker 9: You're too sensitive. You're you know, it's it's such a

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's so interesting because you know, like

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Speaker 8: The hell's you?

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Speaker 7: No, no, I mean act, I'm in acting for ugly

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Speaker 7: Well, look, I had a they try to recall me.

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Speaker 7: I know, people all talk about all politics is local.

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Speaker 6: But can I ask did it did it? Did it?

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Speaker 6: Should have handled that differently?

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Speaker 7: Undisclosed location, along with my tequila.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you say that, because I always

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Speaker 8: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying that's how come he has to

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Speaker 8: Anyway?

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Speaker 7: I'm deeply sensitive to the critique and to the critics

446
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Speaker 7: because I do want to get better. I want to

447
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Speaker 7: constantly learn, I want to evolve, and so yeah, No,

448
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Speaker 7: I mean a lot of a lot of all of this.

449
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Speaker 7: I mean, society becomes how we behave we are our

450
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Speaker 7: behavior so everything that you know, how we're sitting here,

451
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 7: we sort of manifested that in our life, the good

452
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Speaker 7: and the bad.

453
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Speaker 8: We're not vicious.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an interesting time for that because we're coming

455
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Speaker 5: off of we're coming off of this election. It was job,

456
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Speaker 5: you know, a sort of really interesting to see the

457
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Speaker 5: way the country lean uh, you know, And I would

458
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Speaker 5: think that the only way for the Democratic Party to

459
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Speaker 5: really figure out what it is right now is to reflect. Yeah,

460
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Speaker 5: because it's not something isn't resonating. And when you hear that,

461
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Speaker 5: like when you hear all of that criticism, I always wonder, like,

462
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Speaker 5: you know, what are what are those things that you think, like,

463
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Speaker 5: you know, maybe maybe this needs to change, or maybe

464
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Speaker 5: we haven't been communicating this clear enough, Like what are

465
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Speaker 5: the things that you think really affected this election?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, look, there's I was joking. I was

467
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Speaker 7: with my colleagues the Democratic Governors Association down in LA

468
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Speaker 7: last week. We were hosting them. Was the first time

469
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Speaker 7: twenty plus Democratic governors got together, and we were comparing notes,

470
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Speaker 7: asking ourselves that same question. And I joked afterwards with reporters,

471
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Speaker 7: I said, I have nine pages. Each page contradicts the

472
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Speaker 7: previous page with theories, and I give you I mean,

473
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Speaker 7: we could talk about you know, you know, Transports Week

474
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Speaker 7: and talk about wocism more broadly defined CRTE, SG DEI.

475
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Speaker 7: We could talk about a populism. We could talk sort

476
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Speaker 7: of Bernie's analysis of working folks. We could talk about

477
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Speaker 7: sort of elitism coastal LA, talk about all this stuff.

478
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Speaker 7: Could talk about Kamala Harris in the context of she

479
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Speaker 7: wasn't aggressive enough responding to those ads around surgeries and

480
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Speaker 7: prisons and and or she didn't have enough time, or

481
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Speaker 7: she should have done more Joe Rogan and more podcasts

482
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Speaker 7: broadly and you know, so there's a there's a million theory.

483
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Speaker 7: But I subscribe to the John Stewart theory, which is

484
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Speaker 7: whatever the early theories are, throw them out.

485
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Speaker 8: They're a bunch of bullshit.

486
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Speaker 7: Because what we tend to do is we tend to

487
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Speaker 7: overanalyze without the benefit of time to and I think

488
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Speaker 7: what we need to do it will reveal itself what

489
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Speaker 7: we did right and wrong, as long as again with

490
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Speaker 7: this notion of humility and grace, that we are reflective

491
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Speaker 7: and we do sort of service a deeper understanding. But

492
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Speaker 7: I do think we can overanalyze. And what I tend

493
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Speaker 7: to see with pundits on TV is they bring their

494
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Speaker 7: pre existing bias to the analysis of what happens, you know,

495
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Speaker 7: you know, like the moderate Dems will say, well, it's

496
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Speaker 7: because we just need rural this, rural that, read this,

497
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Speaker 7: read that, and the more progressive saying we just need

498
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Speaker 7: more progressive medicaid for all, et cetera. And that was

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Speaker 7: what was wrong. And there's truth to everything I think,

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Speaker 7: But I just think time will reveal itself and in

501
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Speaker 7: messaging and is all part of it. Incumbencies part of it,

502
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Speaker 7: you know, just the inflation scars, the burdens of being

503
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Speaker 7: an incumbent over the course the last number of years,

504
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Speaker 7: and it attaches so much negativity that people just want

505
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Speaker 7: to push back against it every election to change election.

506
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Speaker 7: And we really want to change this time clarity of

507
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Speaker 7: conviction as it relates to communication, which you know, Trump

508
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Speaker 7: is just clear about what he says or at least

509
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Speaker 7: his thinking, you know, all of the above. And so

510
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Speaker 7: you know, I'm I have my own theories, but I'm

511
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Speaker 7: honestly I think they'll reveal themselves and Trump will reveal

512
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Speaker 7: us as well as he reacts, will react and the

513
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Speaker 7: pathway out of this momentary abyss which is momentary in

514
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Speaker 7: my mind, will reveal itself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it'll be read to be.

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Speaker 5: These next four years are going to be fascinating to

517
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Speaker 5: see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people overreact. I mean, it's like we're

519
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Speaker 1: all fucking dead, and I'm like, it's for Everything's going

520
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Speaker 1: to be fine. I always say that at the end

521
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Speaker 1: of the day with everything. If everything's going to be fine,

522
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Speaker 1: nothing's going to We're not going to explode.

523
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Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. There's Jones flying over Jersey.

524
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Speaker 2: No one knows.

525
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Speaker 6: We don't know what's going on.

526
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Speaker 8: Just because the drones.

527
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Speaker 1: That's a different okay news break from that's me I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm controlling all those Well, I mean.

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Speaker 9: For me, I have a twenty year ol daughter and

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Speaker 9: a twenty one year old daughter. I'm more afraid for them. Right,

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Speaker 9: So it isn't we'll be fine the next four years.

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Speaker 9: It's what the consequences are you know, later on, and

533
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Speaker 9: how that's going to impact them. And they're very emotional

534
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Speaker 9: about it. It's been really interesting conversations with that age range.

535
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Speaker 9: But I think to your point, it's going to engage

536
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Speaker 9: them in a different way that we haven't seen, at

537
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Speaker 9: least in our family, in the Democratic Party. So I'm

538
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Speaker 9: really excited for them because they care in a way

539
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Speaker 9: that they've never cared before.

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Speaker 8: And the key is to care and not give up.

541
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Speaker 7: I mean, the only way this becomes the Abyss in

542
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Speaker 7: a hundred year of darkness is that people give up.

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Speaker 8: People that give a damn give up.

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Speaker 7: And I just remind you, I remember I got elected

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Speaker 7: mayor and to THEO and four and I was, you know,

546
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Speaker 7: a few weeks into my administration, I started marrying sane

547
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Speaker 7: sex couples, four thousand and thirty six couples from forty

548
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Speaker 7: six states, six countries, and it was it became a

549
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Speaker 7: big election issue, and this was the Bush Kerry election

550
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Speaker 7: and we lost that election. I remember after that election,

551
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Speaker 7: people thought the Democratic Party was toast. We lost the

552
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Speaker 7: election in two thousand and four, we lost both the

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Speaker 7: House and the Senate, and people were quite literally writing

554
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Speaker 7: the obituary of the Democratic Party. And there was like

555
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Speaker 7: a best selling book that we all needed to go

556
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Speaker 7: to Applebee's because you know, Applebee's America. Understand, the rural,

557
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Speaker 7: real People Party was too elite. A lot of the

558
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Speaker 7: similar things think about this. Two years later, two years later,

559
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Speaker 7: not twenty years later, somebody they name of Nancy Pelosi

560
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Speaker 7: is the Speaker of the House. We take back both houses.

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Speaker 7: And then four years later, someone by the name of

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Speaker 7: Barack Usain Obama is President of the United States. That

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Speaker 7: happened in a very short period of time after people

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Speaker 7: were writing the obituary of the Democratic Party. So I think, again,

565
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Speaker 7: we could be prone to a little hyperpoly But to

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Speaker 7: your point, Kate, it is incredibly important that we not

567
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Speaker 7: fall prey to stubbornness and act like we're all that,

568
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Speaker 7: and we have to be deeply, deeply self critical and

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Speaker 7: addressed that I do.

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Speaker 9: Want to I was going to bring that up earlier

571
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Speaker 9: about my brother. That's when I knew what a different

572
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Speaker 9: politician he was going to be, and not really a

573
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Speaker 9: politician is a little over a month and do it.

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Speaker 9: He decides to legalize same sex marriage. My father was

575
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Speaker 9: taken aback. My husband filmed him for what almost two

576
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Speaker 9: years and created a documentary, And in that documentary he

577
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Speaker 9: talks about how I don't need this job. I can

578
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Speaker 9: go back to my business, my day to day life.

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Speaker 9: I'm doing this because I believe that I can make

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Speaker 9: a change, and I can represent my constituents and do

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Speaker 9: right by the state of California.

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Speaker 2: And that's when I.

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Speaker 9: Knew that he was going to be okay, that he

584
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Speaker 9: said a different tone, that this wasn't a politician, this

585
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Speaker 9: was a human being that was going to really focus

586
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Speaker 9: on making you know, the state to the extent that

587
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Speaker 9: he could a better place.

588
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Speaker 8: You've been so nice.

589
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Speaker 2: I have no idea, you know what, these two love

590
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Speaker 2: each other. I figured we could probably try and show

591
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Speaker 2: each other.

592
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Speaker 1: We should go back, because I do want we're we're.

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Speaker 6: We're yeah, we want to we want to know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, how was your birth?

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Speaker 8: Was it where we well, I was there for it.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you.

597
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Speaker 8: It was very dark. It was early in the morning,

598
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Speaker 8: very dark. Yeah.

599
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Speaker 5: So you know, as if no one knows anything about you,

600
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Speaker 5: how many siblings are there?

601
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Speaker 6: Is it just the two of you? Are there more?

602
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Speaker 2: Just the two of us?

603
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Speaker 9: And I'm obviously much younger fourteen months yea fourteen.

604
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Speaker 7: Months younger, and uh yeah, but we had we had

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Speaker 7: parents that loved each other, spent you know, thirty forty

606
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Speaker 7: months together. I got divorced, Yeah, kind of, She's a

607
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Speaker 7: teenage damn mom, Who the hell man is a teenage

608
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Speaker 7: here and then then knocks her up, excuse my language.

609
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Speaker 7: And she's got two kids, divorced, comes from no money

610
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Speaker 7: and just is working two three jobs all our life.

611
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Speaker 7: And and he kind of takes off, but not in

612
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Speaker 7: a not in a negative way, just he couldn't handle it.

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Speaker 8: Way came back in our lives later.

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Speaker 9: In a lovely Irish Catholic in an Irish Catholic way.

615
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Speaker 8: Yes to shoe.

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Speaker 1: Right, that was the That was the affection, right, just

617
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Speaker 1: kind of like we developed a really strong do it

618
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Speaker 1: a little differently?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they go on Inside Edition. I got it right.

620
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Speaker 6: And then we saw him on Larry King.

621
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Speaker 1: Right, exactly, you look great, he looks look good. I mean, okay,

622
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Speaker 1: we got nothing on you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, wonder you started this damn thing.

624
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Speaker 6: Where were you raised?

625
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Speaker 9: San Francisco is where we were born. We're fifth generation

626
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Speaker 9: or six. We argue about that.

627
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Speaker 2: I think we're just bit wow.

628
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Speaker 9: And my mom quickly moved to Marine and we had

629
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Speaker 9: borders in the house. Creepy people sometimes it like played

630
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Speaker 9: guitar naked.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, five or six generations? So were you

632
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Speaker 1: did you have a family like the Barbary Coast?

633
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Speaker 7: My dad used to joke you said, our great great

634
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Speaker 7: great grandfather was an Irish cop in San Francisco, and

635
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Speaker 7: he said he didn't know what came first, San Francisco

636
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Speaker 7: or the Irish cop.

637
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, the beginning, Kate and I almost put

638
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Speaker 1: me we're really close to I know, it's still great.

639
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Speaker 1: There's a book called The Barbary Coast and just the

640
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Speaker 1: sort of the birth of San Francisco with sam Brando

641
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Speaker 1: coming over, the gold Rush, the lawlessness, you.

642
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Speaker 6: Know how international, you know, I mean just burned down

643
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Speaker 6: sixth times.

644
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Speaker 1: It's just an incredible story on the birth San Francisco.

645
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Speaker 7: Amen man from a small fishing village to you know,

646
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Speaker 7: discovering gold and you know, and then it's you know,

647
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Speaker 7: it's always been a city of dreamers, doers, entrepreneurs, innovators,

648
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Speaker 7: and it's interesting. You know, I'll look back, you look

649
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Speaker 7: at so much of the xenophobia that's defined today emanated

650
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Speaker 7: out of San Francisco as well.

651
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Speaker 8: It has a darker past.

652
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Speaker 7: The Chinese Exclusion Act came out of the Bay Area,

653
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Speaker 7: San Francisco and Oakland. You know, there's this guy, the

654
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Speaker 7: original Donald Trump. If anyone wanted to know if Donald

655
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 7: Trump is interesting and new He's not. He's completely derivative

656
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Speaker 7: of these populace of the past. There was this guy,

657
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Speaker 7: Dennis Kearney who ran the working Man's Party, a guy

658
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Speaker 7: from Ireland, and he began and ended every speech in

659
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Speaker 7: the late eighteen eighties and by saying, whatever else must,

660
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Speaker 7: whatever else happens, the Chinese must go. And there's sort

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Speaker 7: of anti Chinese rhetoric, anti immigrant rhetoric, anti establishment record rhetoric,

662
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Speaker 7: anti press rhetoric.

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Speaker 8: Was was I'm in it at the.

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Speaker 7: Time, and it caused so familiar today.

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Speaker 10: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are

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Speaker 10: you a Charlotte. In nineteen ninety seven, my life was

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Speaker 10: forever changed when I took on the role of Charlotte

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Speaker 10: Yorke on a new HBO show called Sex.

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Speaker 6: And the City.

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Speaker 10: As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte navigate relationships

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Speaker 10: in New York City, the show helped push once unacceptable

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Speaker 10: conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative

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Speaker 10: around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them

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Speaker 10: as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships.

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Speaker 10: Now I want to connect with you and share untold

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Speaker 10: stories and all the behind the scenes together with special guests.

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Speaker 10: What will begin with sex and the City will evolve

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Speaker 10: into talks about themes that are still so relevant today.

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Speaker 10: Are You a Charlotte is a much more than just rewatching.

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Speaker 10: Our beloved show brings the past and the present together

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Speaker 10: as we talk with heart, humor, and of course some optimism.

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Speaker 10: Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 10: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so family growing up? I mean, what was it?

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Speaker 1: How old are you when your parents split up?

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Speaker 2: Like five or six? I was, and he's a year older.

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Speaker 2: It was quick. Yes, the relationship was complicated.

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Speaker 9: It was complicated because we never quite knew because we

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Speaker 9: sert of vacationed together and we spent holidays together, and

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Speaker 9: they didn't neither ever remarried, and we never they had

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Speaker 9: a couple. There were a couple of serious relationships in

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Speaker 9: there for each of them, which was hard on the other.

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Speaker 9: And it was a really lifetime friendship. Our mom died

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Speaker 9: at fifty five, and I've never been more excited for

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Speaker 9: my birthday, which is Christmas, even I'll be fifty six.

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Speaker 2: He made it over the hump. But I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: can't wait to get over the hump.

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Speaker 9: Never been more excited to tell someone my age. But yeah,

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Speaker 9: so she You know, they really forged a really strong

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Speaker 9: friendship and a lot of respect throughout the years.

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Speaker 6: But it was.

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Speaker 9: Confusing because we had the mom that worked THET three jobs,

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Speaker 9: you know, the waitress, the secretary, the you know, assistant buyer,

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Speaker 9: the bookkeeper, trying to get a job in real estate,

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Speaker 9: while my dad took us on vacations to on safari

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Speaker 9: and beautiful yachts and private helicopter.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 1: So it was a very not because.

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Speaker 8: Board it clos best friends could.

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Speaker 9: And we came home and we were, you know, very

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Speaker 9: clear that that's something we boasted about. It's not something

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Speaker 9: we shared. It's something we enjoyed and we could process

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Speaker 9: with each other.

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Speaker 2: And that was that. And then we moved on to

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Speaker 2: what was real in our lives.

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Speaker 1: What was your relationship like, you know, just growing up

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Speaker 1: from that age and as you guys got old or

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Speaker 1: was it tight?

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Speaker 2: I was like his agent. I was like his agent.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 9: He destroyed the backyard and did a mini golf course

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Speaker 9: and and I promoted it in the neighborhood and we

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Speaker 9: made a few bucks. He started getting into rocky and

724
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Speaker 9: drinking raw eggs. I think that's what's got him a

725
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Speaker 9: little screw loose up there. But running up and down

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Speaker 9: the hills and come back. Yeah, yeah, boxing matches and siltic.

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Speaker 7: Just a little bit of a consumer alert right now

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Speaker 7: to pasteurize milk for the moment, please, But.

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Speaker 9: I will see Gavin was bullied, genuinely bullied. I don't

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Speaker 9: think the kids aving.

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Speaker 8: That hasn't changed.

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Speaker 2: A haircut.

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Speaker 1: You were actually bullies the haircut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a haircut. It was like a whole

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Speaker 2: this whole gail.

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Speaker 8: Thing came out of desperation.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 7: I was like Dutch boy with the little thing and

739
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Speaker 7: it was discovered like amazing, changed my life.

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Speaker 2: But these bullies, literally I would come home.

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Speaker 9: I was still at French American in San Francisco, and

742
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Speaker 9: he was in school and we're in and I'd run

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Speaker 9: around the neighborhood looking for him. When I got back

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Speaker 9: from school and they said, look, he's hanging from his

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Speaker 9: underwear one of the fences. And I believe them and

746
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Speaker 9: start would start running around looking on all the fences

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Speaker 9: for my brother.

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Speaker 2: But it was probably hiding behind a tree.

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Speaker 8: But no bs. One of the coolest things my mom did.

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Speaker 7: She worked for aid to adoption of special kids that

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Speaker 7: have both family kids with intellectual and physical disabilities, and

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Speaker 7: and this notion of empathy and care compassion that was

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Speaker 7: so ingrained for us as kids. And here she has

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Speaker 7: a single mom with no real training and capacity resources

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Speaker 7: to raise two kids on her own. But she was

756
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Speaker 7: hustling and making it work and and always, you know,

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Speaker 7: and just never complained, never explain away anything, and was

758
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Speaker 7: just just grit, hard work, determination. But you know, when

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Speaker 7: you're getting bullied and you watch your mom working with

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Speaker 7: people that are traditionally bullied, I swear to you, man,

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Speaker 7: that's like indelible in terms of my why, why I'm

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Speaker 7: doing this, Why we did gay marriage, Why you know

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Speaker 7: why I was so honored to be there the other

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Speaker 7: day to help this woman feel it's going to be okay,

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Speaker 7: you know, even though it threats of deportation, and it

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Speaker 7: literally explains, you know, my career path.

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Speaker 8: It started with Hillary. You know.

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Speaker 7: I started in business entrepreneurialism, started out of college open

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Speaker 7: a wine store with one part one part time person,

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Speaker 7: Pat Kelly. We grew it to twenty is businesses, and

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Speaker 7: as we were growing the business's restaurants, hotels and wineries,

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Speaker 7: I couldn't do it all and stole Hillary, who was

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Speaker 7: working for what Donna, Karen and Harmani in having life

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00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 7: in alt no fun, And I said, I need your

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00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 7: help because I started getting into politics and I couldn't

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Speaker 7: do both things.

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Speaker 1: Hillary, What did you do in fashion?

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Speaker 9: I started off in San Francisco at Banana Republic Corporate,

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Speaker 9: and then I moved to Italy and I worked for

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Speaker 9: Georgia Armani directly three days a week. I was in

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Speaker 9: fittings with him for all his new employe Armaney Collections.

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Speaker 9: And then when I left there, I went to Donna

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Speaker 9: Karen and then back to our money exchange in New York.

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Speaker 9: And then I realized that working seven days a week,

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Speaker 9: twelve hours a day and eating.

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Speaker 2: All my meals at a desk was not my jam.

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Speaker 9: So I moved home, actually, and I was fixing to

788
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Speaker 9: go back in the hostel, you know, in that industry.

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Speaker 9: Levi's a banana and Gavin's like, no, you're coming to

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Speaker 9: plump Jack, And I said, okay, I'll give you six months.

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Speaker 9: And it's been twenty seven years twenty seven years in October. Okay,

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Speaker 9: I know, so I started when I was.

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Speaker 8: Yet years a watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be half of the plump Jack.

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Speaker 8: We're proud of.

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Speaker 2: Thanks watch watch.

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Speaker 6: Wow, that's a long time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah she came. I remember hiring her for marketing.

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Speaker 7: I was like, hey, we need a market. We got

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Speaker 7: this little new hotel up in Tahoe. We got a market,

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Speaker 7: you know.

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Speaker 2: And I remember him asking me.

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Speaker 9: I said him, I don't know how to do marketing

804
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 9: and he said, have you stayed in the hotel before?

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Speaker 2: Have you traveled before? I'm like, yes, yes, yes, He goes,

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Speaker 2: then you know what you're doing.

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Speaker 9: And I got the bug and I've never looked back,

808
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 9: never looked back.

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Speaker 6: And what do you do for the business?

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Speaker 2: I'm the co president. I'm one of the ones that

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Speaker 2: brands it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I run it with a co president, my cousin Jeremy,

813
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 9: But basically I'm the all of it.

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00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 8: It goes wrong if you've enjoyed your experience, right.

815
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we've got we've got a big portfolio.

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Speaker 5: And what's your favorite part of the business, what's the

817
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 5: what's the what what's part of Like which part of

818
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 5: the portfolio do you love?

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Speaker 9: Two things My favorite part of what I do is

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00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 9: my team. I am all about them. They're my constituents.

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Speaker 9: I've got We've got three inner plus employees, and I

822
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 9: do everything I can to make sure that their experience

823
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 9: working for us is amazing and fun and not taken

824
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 9: too seriously because at the end of the day, we're

825
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 9: not heart surgeons, but that we want to deliver on

826
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Speaker 9: an experience.

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Speaker 2: So that to me is my favorite part.

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Speaker 9: And my favorite business is our Plump Jack in in

829
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Speaker 9: Tahoe because our parents met up there when my mom.

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Speaker 2: Was nineteen and my dad was the last guard.

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Speaker 8: She was a.

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Speaker 2: Lifeguard, an appropriate father.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and our grandfather owned the Master release on after

834
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Speaker 9: the nineteen sixty Olympics, So my mom was up there

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Speaker 9: and my dad became smitten and then I my husband, Jeff,

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Speaker 9: and I got married up there, and so for me

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Speaker 9: it's super personal. And I was just up there a

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00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 9: couple of days ago, so but all of them have

839
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Speaker 9: my heart. It's just it's the people and so long

840
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 9: as I treat them with respect and love, then they

841
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 9: treat our guests with respect and love, and that's what

842
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 9: that's what I find joy in with my with my work,

843
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 9: amazing and our wine is really really good.

844
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Speaker 2: So is our food.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, a few wineries.

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Speaker 2: Now it's just crazy and a vineyard independent.

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Speaker 7: It's interesting. You know, I left her complete disaster. When

848
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 7: I took off to run for mayor. I had just

849
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Speaker 7: created a failure award for the company. So the person

850
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Speaker 7: who's screwed up the most, I gave him a big bonus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he always wanted.

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Speaker 8: That's weird.

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Speaker 7: No, But I'm like, I'm like a big you know,

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Speaker 7: back to just you know, it's decisions, not conditions that

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Speaker 7: determine our faie future. You know, I'm not a I

856
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 7: just I'm not. I've never had this sort of victim mindset.

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Speaker 7: And I really feel like, you know, we got to

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Speaker 7: empower ourselves, change, change perception and conditions. But one of

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Speaker 7: the things at the hotel, she just reminded me. At

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Speaker 7: the hotel, it's an old nineteen sixties and was built

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Speaker 7: for the delegates of the nineteen sixties Olympics, and it

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Speaker 7: doesn't have centralized air conditioning. So in the summer gets

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Speaker 7: really hot up in Tahoe, so we got to keep

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Speaker 7: the doors open, some of the windows open. We got

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Speaker 7: a lot of mosquitoes coming in, and I got a

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Speaker 7: call late at night from our engineer, this guy Ludo,

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Speaker 7: and he rarely ever called, and I like, what the

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Speaker 7: hell is going on?

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Speaker 1: Ludo?

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Speaker 8: He's like, it's a disaster. I'm like, Jesus lttle, what's

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Speaker 8: going on?

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Speaker 1: He goes.

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00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 8: He goes, he couldn't even breathe. I'm like, brother, just

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00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 8: calm down. There's the boiler.

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Speaker 7: What happened fire? He's like, no, it was not a fire.

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00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 7: I said, a flood. He said, not a flood. It's

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00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 7: at son of a bitch. I said, so, who's what?

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00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 7: What are you talking about?

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00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 8: Ludo? He's like the front desk guy. I said, who

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Speaker 8: are you talking?

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00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 6: Eric?

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00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 7: And I'm like, Eric, what did he do? He goes,

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Speaker 7: that's idiot, you know, he went out. You can't even

884
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 7: make this up. I said, just tell me what's going on.

885
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 8: He goes. He apparently went out and he bought a

886
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 8: bunch of catfish. I said catfish.

887
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 7: He goes, yeah, he bought some catfish and he said

888
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 7: he put it in the ponds next to the hotel.

889
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 7: Said what the hell was he doing?

890
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 8: He goes.

891
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 7: The idiot wanted to deal with all the mosquitoes. I said,

892
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 7: why would he? Oh, because they would eat the larva

893
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 7: the thing. I said, that's a great idea.

894
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 8: What's the problem. He goes, well, fucking uh, raccoons. I said,

895
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 8: what raccoons.

896
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 7: He goes to the raccoons that brought all the catfish

897
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 7: in the hotel.

898
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 8: There's bones everywhere, there's eyes, there's fins. The whole place

899
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 8: smells like fish. This guy needs to be fired. He's

900
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 8: an idiot.

901
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 7: And I was laughing, and I'm like, man, this guy Eric,

902
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 7: I got to meet him. This is amazing, that crazy

903
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 7: nightclerk person. And I literally we created the failure word.

904
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 7: I gave him five hundred dollars bonus because he at

905
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 7: least tried to solve a problem. They screwed up.

906
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: A lot.

907
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: Well bringing bringing that around, right, I mean, you try

908
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: at least you tried to solve a problem, and you

909
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: know as you fuck up. I mean that exists in

910
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: your world on daily right, I mean, that's funny.

911
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 8: Just I hate people. It's not my job description, it's

912
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 8: not my responsibility.

913
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 7: You know that that's there there there's nothing I seriously

914
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 7: just and that that's what I wanted is still in

915
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 7: the company.

916
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 8: And she changed it to magical.

917
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 7: It was actually smart failure word in magical moments, just

918
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 7: sort of.

919
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 8: Paint a more proactive positive picture.

920
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Words matter, everybody's a winner.

921
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 8: That's an issue for me.

922
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: Your participation trophy fourth place.

923
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: I draw the line at seventh.

924
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 9: If my kids got seventh place, I said, now you

925
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 9: have to throw those rimons out, but you can get

926
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 9: to seventh.

927
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the business is fun, man, being being an

928
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 7: entrepreneur is the best and trying to have an entrepreneur

929
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 7: mindset in the work we do. And government is a

930
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 7: big part of what I've tried to do for de kides.

931
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 7: And you know, I wrote a crazy book a decade

932
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 7: ago about government as a platform.

933
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 8: Meaning people they are more choice, more voice.

934
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 7: Like I sort of framed government as a vending machine

935
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 7: where you put in taxes and you get police, fire, healthcare, education,

936
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 7: and if you don't like what you get, you kick

937
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 7: the machine, you shake it. And how we can look

938
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 7: at government more as a traditional platform where we're big

939
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 7: on what, small on how meaning we we we we

940
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 7: create a framework where we have to solve big problems,

941
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 7: but we're less prescriptive on how we delivered them.

942
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 2: And anyway, I totally read the book.

943
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 8: The book did not do well.

944
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean I.

945
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 8: Just so.

946
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 9: I was going to say, the book, you read it.

947
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 9: If one of you can do the book on tape

948
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 9: the audio, I'm going to totally listen to it.

949
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 8: It's making sense and you just but.

950
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: Here, here's my biggest issue, just politically, just generally. How

951
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: can no one can admit when they fuck up? They

952
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: just can't do it. I mean I I honestly I

953
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: don't follow politics enough to watch it all. I honestly

954
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: don't know how you deal with your failures as far

955
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: as publicly goes. But no one can admit when they

956
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: fuck up. It's like I was watching Kamaa do her thing.

957
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, guess what, you know what we tried

958
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: at the border in the beginning. We fucked up. We're

959
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: going to we tried to remedy it, and look we're

960
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: doing our best. And here where we at and here

961
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: where we are now, Well, why can't anyone just say, yeah,

962
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: I fucked up.

963
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 9: I will say that early in his career, I really

964
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 9: made a point of holding him accountable when he fucked up.

965
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, but it wasn't important.

966
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 6: I was going to ask you that, like, do you

967
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 6: do that? You know? Is that? Because I would do

968
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 6: that if Oliver was which God, I hope it would

969
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 6: never happen.

970
00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: I was governor of California much I've got homeless all over.

971
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 8: Business, climate.

972
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 6: Ful all over him.

973
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh for sure.

974
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 9: I mean there's a lot of things that happened, in

975
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 9: particular in the early days because he didn't have anyone

976
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 9: else to hold him accountable, right, my mom had just passed.

977
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 8: You know.

978
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 9: The public well, yeah, but you know a lot of politicians,

979
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 9: that was my earlier point, would spin it and spin

980
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 9: it until they got caught. And we just really talked

981
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 9: all the time and just stand there and say, I'm sorry.

982
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 11: A few major incidents where I trust me, brother had

983
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 11: no I mean, I had all the I didn't have

984
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 11: a problem, but it was hard to do acknowledging big,

985
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 11: big mistakes.

986
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's happened many times in my life.

987
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: When you were able to do a publicly that you

988
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: were able to say, you know what here I am.

989
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 8: I've grown up in this.

990
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 7: I mean like you guys grow up in you know,

991
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 7: your world, and it's much I mean, God bless you.

992
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 7: At least I have some you know, I have a

993
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 7: geo fence around consciousness of my existence. You don't it's

994
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 7: more global, but it's you know, I grew up in

995
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 7: this I was like really growing up. You know, I

996
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 7: was married and divorce in this business. You know, it's

997
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 7: like and I did things that you know you can't

998
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 7: do when you're mayor, but you could do if you weren't.

999
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 7: And I just didn't. I wasn't mature enough to understand that.

1000
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 7: And then there were just stupid things that I did

1001
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 7: because I was stupid.

1002
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: And when and my my the importance.

1003
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: For me was stupid.

1004
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the bond for me is to make sure

1005
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 2: that he knew that I stood by his side.

1006
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 9: I remember there was one moment and he had to

1007
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 9: talk to his team because I don't want you in

1008
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 9: the room, so well, I'm not leaving. And that's kind

1009
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 9: of how it's been, like He's always knows that there's

1010
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 9: someone there's now he has an amazing wife and family

1011
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 9: that have his back too, but he always has known

1012
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 9: that I've had his back.

1013
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 8: It's interesting.

1014
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 9: And by the way, that's despite the fact and Oliver,

1015
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 9: I heard you talking about this on one of your

1016
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 9: many podcasts about how all she wanted was your attention

1017
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 9: and when you were younger, but my brother would literally

1018
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 9: hand me a dollar on the playground. We only overlapped

1019
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 9: for one year in school when I was in seventh

1020
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 9: and he was in eighth. He'd give me a dollar

1021
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 9: to leave him alone. So this is despite that, I still.

1022
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 7: Have imagine how much it would cost today.

1023
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 1: Well, Kay would Kay would be negotiating like now, she'd

1024
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: get her lawyer on the phone, aged six and be like, Crypto,

1025
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm right here at your door until you speak to

1026
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: my lawyer.

1027
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: Like the door hanging, I don't think we had. I

1028
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: didn't have a door. I slept in the hallway.

1029
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 8: She did.

1030
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 7: We literally, like we said, I mean, there's a sort

1031
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 7: of perception that we're some trust fund kids, and quite

1032
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 7: the contrary, Literally, Hillary, we had a carved I.

1033
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 8: Guess you know.

1034
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: It was an a frame.

1035
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 8: It was literally in the hallway and we.

1036
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 7: Cut the side of the wall and there was like

1037
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 7: some extra room and literally there's no I just.

1038
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 8: Walked by it every night.

1039
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 9: He literally would make ghost sounds and scary noises.

1040
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: So I was like, away, right, great, he's still we moved. Yeah, yeah,

1041
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: he remembers.

1042
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 6: That's what I called Oliver when I was over.

1043
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: I know, you know, it's so funny, is uh Bodi

1044
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: used to call and Reo used to call Wilder wad,

1045
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: so now I call Wilder wa do.

1046
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 6: I'm still so cute, cuter.

1047
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: Than over doing over.

1048
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: Maybe that's like a children's book. We could write sibling revelry.

1049
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: There's siblings called do an over doing is cute. Boom.

1050
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: We just made. We just probably made two million bucks

1051
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: right there.

1052
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 6: Oh please, it's all you're.

1053
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: Just hustling seven seven million.

1054
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 6: We're getting us backwards.

1055
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 5: Okay, sorry, that was so great.

1056
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: It was so amazing that we're going to do a

1057
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: two parter. Yeah, I'll go in two parts, so you

1058
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: need to tune in for the second.

1059
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 5: And it's also just like it's so interesting and I'm like,

1060
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 5: we've got to interview more political people. I know I'm

1061
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 5: going to shave this a million times, but no, I know.

1062
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 5: Are you going to have a little cocktail holiday cocktail

1063
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 5: today right now?

1064
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 7: No?

1065
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we're actually doing the We have

1066
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: do many Christmas. So we get the tree, we do

1067
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: the lights. It's on Saturday, so we all go to Target.

1068
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: Everyone gets twenty dollars to spend on each other and

1069
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: then we get fun little gifts and then we open

1070
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: them up and play Christmas music and drink whiskey.

1071
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 6: We Why can't I do that? Why aren't I invited?

1072
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: Because it's only this, this nucleus of this family. It

1073
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: doesn't extend to the other.

1074
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 5: I'm going to do and I'm going to do my

1075
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 5: own and I'm going to give them fifty dollars.

1076
00:50:49,440 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 12: No, I know, actually end yeah, fun, I go fifty cents.

1077
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 6: Why do I only have a quarter?

1078
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: Everyone just gets each other a quarter, exchange quarters.

1079
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 6: I'm going to do that with the kids.

1080
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 8: Do it. It's the best.

1081
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: It's the best. And you know the kids are all

1082
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: separate now, yeah, like they all do their own thing.

1083
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: It's the It's four hours at the house, Christmas music.

1084
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: Everyone's around the tree and it's fine. Everyone's together, and

1085
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: it's they can't can't leave.

1086
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 6: And they can't leave and they can't invite friends.

1087
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's just the family.

1088
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 6: I love it.

1089
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: And the three kids come.

1090
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 6: I didn't know about this.

1091
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for years. I have no idea.

1092
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't advertise. All of the

1093
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: cool things that I do.

1094
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 5: Makes me so a little weird, but okay, that sounds fun.

1095
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 6: Well, I learned something new about you, and I'm.

1096
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: Going to you know, okay it do it. If you

1097
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: do it on Saturday night, we can FaceTime.

1098
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 6: That's allowed.

1099
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we can all do it together this year.

1100
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 5: Look like Marty Short, You're like, You're like, Jimmy, what's

1101
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 5: in Blake?

1102
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 6: Tell me about your I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you. Bye.