1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Arm Strong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Yetty. Wow 5 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: from Portlandia. A handful of angry white chicks screeching Freemaduro, 6 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: free him now, hands off Venezuela Wow? Or did they 7 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: mind now with now? Which is a songwriter? Offends me anyway. 8 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: So that's that's Portlandia. Let's check in in Seattle, where 9 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: a man who for some reason is chill and to 10 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: present himself as a woman is leading a different chant 11 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: and Za fed. 12 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: As well, fed as well, Great President. 13 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 4: I. 14 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Don't speak that language. 15 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: Wow, socialism or death, he sees shouting at them. 16 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 5: I get the I get the argument that, Uh, I'm 17 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 5: willing to listen to the argument that we shouldn't be 18 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 5: going into other countries and snatching their leaders or whatever. 19 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 5: I get that argument. I'm not particularly worried about it 20 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 5: in this case. 21 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: I don't. In this case it's wrong, but we'll get 22 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: up to that. I don't understand the you know, up 23 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: with Maduro. 24 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I know it's insane, it's it's absolutely fruit looks and 25 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: the free press has done some great coverage of this 26 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: story and and the posty is a whole and how 27 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: it ends, and are we quote unquote running Venezuela and 28 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like in two years. Those are 29 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: absolutely great questions, wonderful questions, and only time will tell. 30 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: But the idea that it was somehow bad to get 31 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: rid of Maduro and to chant free Maduro, free him 32 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: now is bad ass crazy. I mean that is that's 33 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: like hospitalize these people levels of crazy. And then the 34 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: free press doing a great job of talking to a 35 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: bunch of Venezuelans. Here's this this gal who her phone 36 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: began to buzz Saturday with the news. She's Venezuelan living 37 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: in America. Now her phone began to buzz with news 38 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: that the US had captured Maduro. She could hardly believe it. 39 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: She said, this is what all Venezuelans wished for. We 40 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: were waiting twenty five years for this. And she was 41 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: astounding to Zora astound dead rather by Zora Mumdani, who 42 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: has just sworn in. 43 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: She says, he's young. 44 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: I feel like he he knows what the people blah 45 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: blah blah. Oh, he's crazy. He needs to live in 46 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Venezuela for one year. He shouldn't be saying that anymore. 47 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: And they talk about this split screen reaction in New 48 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: York City, especially where Venezuelans are taking the streets in 49 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: enormous numbers, weeping tears of joy, chanting and singing in celebration. Meanwhile, 50 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: the lefties of America, like we just heard, including the 51 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: Democratic Socialists of America, held a counter demonstration, released a 52 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: statement demanding the return of Maduro in the first lady 53 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: who's a real sweetheart, and. 54 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 5: Marching in favor of turning Maduro loose. Well, so, I 55 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 5: don't we played this clip a lot here, Vince Scully 56 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 5: La Dodgers back in the day. 57 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: Socialism failing to work as it always does, this time 58 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: in Venezuela. You talk about giving everybody something free, and 59 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: all of a sudden there's no food to eat. And 60 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: who do you think is the richest person in Venezuela 61 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: The daughter of Hugo Chavis. Hello anyway, Oh and too, So. 62 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 5: What year was that? I was way back in the nineties. 63 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 5: So then when Hugo Chavez left broke, this guy took over. Yeah, Yeah, 64 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 5: Maduro was his appointed successor. Yeah, and then it was 65 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 5: an ultra loyal, brutal goon. So then why did he 66 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: try to have an election which he then stole and 67 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 5: stay in office, stayed in office? 68 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: Why in that way that they do. It's very little downside. 69 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: If you happen to win the election, you get to 70 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: acclaim legitimacy. I'm not a dictator. I got elected. If 71 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: you lose, hit, you just overturned the results. Yeah, it's 72 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: too bad, but you gotta do what you got. 73 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: And that ignored by this part ignored by a lot 74 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 5: of the critics of this that most countries around the 75 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: world did not recognize him as the president, the actual 76 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 5: president of the country. 77 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 2: All right, right, including the EU and few others. 78 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, so if they don't call him president, how can 79 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: you claim that we took their. 80 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: President or right? Right? 81 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: And as I briefly stated, the idea that we're violating 82 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: the international law by snatching up ahead of state blah 83 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: blah blah, an idea that NPR is just treating is 84 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 1: a given. It's clearly true, and there's even no reason 85 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 1: to even discuss it. 86 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: It's absolutely not true. 87 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: Number one, the guy who was an indicted drug trafficker, 88 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: and number two, he was not the legitimate had a state, 89 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: he had had faked an election. 90 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: Everybody knows it. 91 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: It was agreed upon by multiple organizations around the world, 92 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: including the Biden administration. 93 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: So it just doesn't apply. So what folks who. 94 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Are arguing that are advocating is the idea that, look, 95 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: you can commit any crime in the world you want, 96 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: but if you're strong enough to take over another country, 97 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: no matter how small, we can't touch you, which is 98 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: a bizarre way to look at it. But anyway, getting 99 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: back to the left and their reactions. So this gal, 100 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: this Venezuelan gal who's crying tears of joy, was asked 101 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: about the Democratic Socialists, which Mumdannie has been part of 102 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: four years and years. She says, I guess it's not 103 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: surprising because they're socialists. But then you've got New York 104 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: State Senator Jessica Ramos, who's married to Venezuelan and represents 105 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: a district that has a lot of Venezuelan folks. She 106 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: said she was disappointed to see her party take a 107 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: one sided stance. I've seen those signs about socialism beating fascism, 108 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: but how about neither extreme being a good thing? How 109 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: about being against totalitarian regimes as a whole. If you're 110 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: against tashtag no kings, you should be against kings everywhere. 111 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: And Ramos, who ran against Mamdani in the Democratic mayoral primary, 112 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: told me the situation was not at all good in Venezuela. 113 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 114 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: But she said, first, anyone who's worked with asylum seekers 115 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: here in New York City over the past few years 116 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: and has heard their stories about having to send their 117 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: children to schools where there's no running water or electricity, 118 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: or about how they can't practice their career or go 119 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: to college, it's impossible not to understand why the immediate 120 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: reaction for so many Venezuelans is joyful. They haven't felt 121 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: a joy like this in a long time before this weekend. 122 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: Then they go through the list of Kamala Harris. 123 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: And AOC and others who who are saying that this 124 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: is terrible, terrible. Here's a thirty three year old Uber 125 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Eats delivery driver from Venezuela who argued that Mondami was 126 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: wrong to oppose the actions of President Trump. As a 127 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: patriot of Venezuela. Agree with everything Trump is doing. It's perfect, 128 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: truly perfect, and final final word, New Yorker venezuelan American 129 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: who's lived here for twenty seven years. She said the 130 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: New York mayor's social media post merely confirmed what she 131 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: already suspected, that is posh up bringing on the Upper 132 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: West Side rendered him out of touch. And I quote, 133 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: it's hard to tell a rich kid that poverty exists. 134 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to understand that there are people suffering 135 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: in this world and they're suffering because of socialism. Wow, 136 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: that's great stuff. I haven't heard. Go ahead. 137 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 5: I was just going to say on that, you know, 138 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 5: the knee jerk while Trump did it, got to be 139 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 5: against it thing. I was trying to find a piece. 140 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 5: Mark Calprin wrote, I think for New Year's Day of 141 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: the as long as we're stuck in me and both 142 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: sides do this. It isn't just lefties, but as long 143 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: as we're stuck in the if the other side does it, 144 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: I'm against it. Regardless mode that we've been in for 145 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: quite a few years. We're just never gonna get anywhere. 146 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: We just never. 147 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know it's Charles Laane wrote a fabulous 148 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: piece I came across about this topic, and he's talking 149 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: about George orwell. One of the very very early books 150 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: was about the miners in Britain, not to young people, 151 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: people who mine, and how as an intellectual socialist he 152 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: went to see their lives, and he writes, in a way, 153 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: it is even humiliating to watch coal miners working. It 154 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: raises in you a momentary doubt about your own status 155 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: as an intellectual and a superior person generally, for it 156 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: is brought home to you, at least while you were watching, 157 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: that it is only because of miners sweating their guts 158 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: out that superior persons in quotes, can remain superior. And 159 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: when he got his actual encounters with the working class, 160 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to hearing about them in a classroom taught 161 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: by a professor maybe at Columbia, he realized, oh my god, 162 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: the reality is so different from the classroom. And that's 163 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: why he went on a lifelong campaign of saying, hey, 164 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,359 Speaker 1: here's the problems with socialism. 165 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 5: The next days, weeks, months, certainly matter though, because it 166 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 5: could it could go so south so fast that uh, 167 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 5: it's hard to feel like it was a win, couldn't it. 168 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and all these joyful people of Venezuelan extraction 169 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,479 Speaker 1: might end up being heartbroken because for now the administration's 170 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: embraced the second in command, who's a dedicated totalitarian encounter right. 171 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 5: I like this conversation that Marco Rubio got into with 172 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 5: I think mart Brennan on Facination about is this regime 173 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 5: change or not? And I think it's a good question. 174 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 5: The no, it's not regime change. It's uh because regime 175 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 5: change as a nasty hangover from when we've done it 176 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 5: a couple of times and it hasn't worked out that well. 177 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 5: But she made the point, well, if it's not regime change, 178 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 5: I mean, so it's the same regime, but we're expecting 179 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 5: them to act completely differently. 180 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: That's the hope, I guess. 181 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well they're going to try to use 182 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: their leverage and see what happens. 183 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: Ah. 184 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical, but keeping in an open mind. Hey, finally this, 185 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: I haven't heard this, but I hear it's pretty amusing. 186 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Here's a man on the street montage in New York City. 187 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: It is priceless. Would you try to Trump for Maduro? Yeah? 188 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 4: One of there. 189 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: I mean I think Trump. 190 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 5: I think Maduro was democratically elected. 191 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: Probably, yeah, sure, more than likely. 192 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: Yes, of course, if there's a Nicholas Maduro out here 193 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: who's going to bring us to revolution, will support that movement. 194 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 6: I would rather have a bus driver in charge than 195 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 6: than a billionaire. 196 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: Okay, let's put it that way. Nicholas Magerald could come 197 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: and be our president. 198 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: Oh any day, anyway, Look, you say, all the check 199 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: marks are there. 200 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: He's not white. Okay, he's a minority. 201 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: Okay, he looks a little too much like Saddam. We're saying, though, 202 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: those people are unspeakably stupid. 203 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, but how many so, Mom, Donnie? The other night 204 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 5: it is inauguration this. 205 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 6: We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the 206 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 6: warmth of collectivism. 207 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 5: How many people out there actually cheer that believe that? 208 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 5: I don't have a sense of it. 209 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: It is the most persistent, idiotic scam in the history 210 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: of mankind. It makes snake oil look unpromising. Is a 211 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: scam like chemotherapy. 212 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: Right exactly? 213 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's It's worth studying an under standing why 214 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: it is so alluring to people. Because it has been 215 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: disproved so thoroughly and so many times, and so brutally, 216 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: you'd think nobody with two brain cells to rub together 217 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: could possibly embrace socialism, and yet they by the billions 218 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: yearn for it and they deserve it good and hard. 219 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: Let's just divide up the country in two and you 220 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: can have your socialism. You knock yourselves out over here, 221 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: we'll be doing the liberty thing. 222 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: And so the million people on the streets with tears 223 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 5: in their eyes, so happy in Venezuela, they're just wrong. 224 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 5: They just don't know that it's a good system those 225 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: that's just. 226 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: A big loud fact that they ignore, because that's one 227 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: of the keys to being a socialist is you must 228 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: ignore reality. 229 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: Weird, any thoughts, they're misguided. They're the brown face and 230 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: white supremacy. 231 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 5: Jack, we got to play that mom Donny clip and 232 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: like really put it in context a little bit later 233 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 5: and discuss it, because it is it is. I don't 234 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 5: think it's a minor thing that he said that. Oh no, 235 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 5: we got a lot more. 236 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: On the waist to hear anyways, Oh and too. 237 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: Exactly, yo yo yo, We're back live. That's it, We're 238 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 5: actually back. This is us back. What if you're listening 239 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 5: to the show and you heard a lot of reruns 240 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 5: for the last two weeks, Now this is live, this 241 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 5: is January fifthy or twenty twenty six? 242 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: God bless it? 243 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: Are you gonna come up with a slogan for twenty 244 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: twenty six? Do you think I'm going to. 245 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: Have people suggest ideas what rhymes with six? 246 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 4: Right? 247 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: We've been doing this for We've been doing this for 248 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 5: so long. I know that we could probably just go 249 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 5: back to sixteen row six or whatever. 250 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, sixteen wouldn't work exactly, that's true. How about 251 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: warring for clicks in twenty six? 252 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: Except we don't, No, we don't. 253 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 5: I got so many notes of news over the last 254 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: two weeks that just deserve a mention. For instance, did 255 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 5: you see uh you? You almost certainly didn't. Giorgio Maloney. 256 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 5: She's the leader of Italy. I like the cut of 257 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 5: her gym. I like her deal anyway. She gave a 258 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: big speech to a giant rally, speaking to Third world 259 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 5: migrants there. If you feel offended by a crucifix or 260 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 5: a Nativity scene, then this is not the place where 261 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: you should live. We will live, go girl, We will 262 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 5: defend God and homeland in the family. There'd been some 263 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 5: Nativity scenes attacked in Rome, and that's what she was 264 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 5: speaking to. 265 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: This is the preference cascade we talked about a fair 266 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: amount last year where you're told over and over again 267 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: nobody thinks what you think, you're wrong to think. 268 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: It's stopped thinking it. And then when. 269 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: Everybody fine and all along, you've been thinking this is 270 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: crazy letting all these people in who hate our way 271 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: of life, and then suddenly, when it becomes safe to 272 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: say it out loud, you realize, oh, everybody's been thinking 273 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: about it, certainly everybody who has a conscience and a brain. 274 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 5: I'm glad she said it. But the cake is in 275 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 5: the oven and being baked on that whole thing in Europe, 276 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 5: so we'll see how that turns out. Mean, the people 277 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: are there and they have their beliefs. Elon Musk said 278 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 5: he's going all in funding Republicans to help President Trump 279 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 5: take back full control of the House or hold on. 280 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: To full control in the November midterms. 281 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 5: He's gone all in on a couple of elections where 282 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: he didn't get his way even though he spent a 283 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 5: lot of money, but funding a whole bunch of House 284 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 5: members Republican across the country, I don't know. I don't 285 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 5: know if money will be the difference maker or not. 286 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 5: I guess no, he did have dinner with Donald and 287 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 5: Malania at mar A Lago the other night, So the 288 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 5: whole romance is over. They're feuding or whatever stupid soap 289 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: opera that people like to talk about. He was sitting 290 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: there at the dinner table and they were both laughing 291 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,479 Speaker 5: and chuckling. 292 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: And seeing the dinner table events. 293 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 5: Right, So, I don't know if you think that's a 294 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 5: big deal or not. California's open carry ban was blown 295 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: up by a major Second Amendment ruling that happened while 296 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: we were on vacation, and it was the Ninth Circuit Court, 297 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 5: which generally we hate the thing as they decide, said 298 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 5: that California's restriction on open carrying firearms fails the Supreme 299 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 5: Court's modern Second Amendment test. 300 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a couple of huge court victories over the 301 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: break that were kept quiet by most of the media. 302 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 303 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see how that turns out. 304 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, the National Review had a fairly amusing roundup 305 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: of some of the ridiculous wild blue state laws of 306 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six, including in cal 307 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: Unicornia continuing to be the sanctuary state for children who 308 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: are momentarily confused about their sex and the twenty twenty 309 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: six sees the California legislature enacting the banning banning books 310 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: no matter how sexually explicit or age inappropriate they are. 311 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: If you can argue, well, it's gay sex or transsex, 312 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: you can't take it out of your kids' school library. 313 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: It's protected. 314 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: Wow, porn for kids. Yay porn for kid Wow Okay. 315 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: On the way, if you miss a segment, get the 316 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: podcast Armstrong and Get You on demand Armstrong and Getty. 317 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 3: We have to continue to elect more socialists, and we 318 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism. 319 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: There are also other issues that we firmly believe in, 320 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: whether it's BDS right or whether it's the end goal 321 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: of season the means. 322 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 5: Of production, seizing the means of production from Zorn Mom 323 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 5: Donnie bad. 324 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: Boy before he got elected. Now, so the. 325 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 5: Question at the time was, and this is in the 326 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 5: context of a ridiculously high percentage of young people who 327 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 5: now say they favor socialism over the free market. I 328 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 5: should have looked up those numbers, but it's been growing 329 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 5: for years and it's disturbing. Did he use the term 330 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: seizing the means of production by accident or did he 331 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 5: know how he will please poking people like us. Well, 332 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 5: then the same thing the other night when he got 333 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 5: sworn in New York. In New York as the mayor, 334 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 5: everybody knowing exactly what he was, and enough people choose 335 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 5: him on purpose, and he said this, we. 336 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 6: Will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth 337 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 6: of collectivism. 338 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 5: If you're a cold warrior at all, the warmth of 339 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 5: the term collectivism is just dude, you're you're you're trolling me, right, 340 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 5: You're just trying to get my head to pop off 341 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 5: by using the term collectivism. 342 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's amazing, just very quickly, I for one, 343 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: and I'm asking you do you find liberty frigid? I 344 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: find it wonderful and innervating and exciting and fun. The 345 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: last thing I find it is somehow oppressive? 346 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Well, it's just an open plea for 347 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: the vote of sheep. 348 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: So if you're not super into the history of this 349 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 5: sort of stuff, I realize how the word collectivism might 350 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 5: not land with you. 351 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: But man, if you read he Shares Together. 352 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: But if you follow this sort of stuff, I mean 353 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 5: that is the term that was used by Lenin and 354 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 5: Stalin and Mao and Castro and all of these creeps 355 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 5: who led to the murder of millions and millions and 356 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 5: millions of people. And it might be the most deadly 357 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 5: word in world history, right, collectivism, And he chose that 358 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 5: for his inaugural speech. 359 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: Right. 360 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: So the question was, and I was listening to Jonah 361 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: Goldberg on the Dispatch talk about this, did he does 362 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: he run in circles where that word doesn't have that 363 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 5: meaning for the rest of us, And so because he's 364 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 5: surrounded by his dad and his other socialist friends that 365 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 5: they don't know how it triggers the rest of us. 366 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 5: Or was he just throwing that word out there for 367 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 5: the knowing that it, you know, makes people like us crazy, 368 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 5: but for the people that voted for him, they love 369 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 5: that word. Or does he not know, well, it's ten 370 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: to thirty five year olds who are not particularly astute, 371 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 5: who are his target audience, and he couldn't give half 372 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 5: a crap how it triggers us, as you put it. 373 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 5: Or the fact that anybody who has any background knowledge 374 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 5: about the history of socialism, communism, collectivism recoils because the 375 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: history of it is just horrifically it's unspeakably obscene because 376 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 5: the youngsters, they don't recoil, they don't know. 377 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it was funny. 378 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: I heard him hesitate before he used the term seizing 379 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: the means of production, because I think in his like 380 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: ivy league educated head, he knew, oh, this is a 381 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: little on the nose. I mean, this is straight out 382 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: of the textbooks. But he went ahead and used the 383 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: phrase anyway because he knew he was within, you know, 384 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: a friendly crowd. 385 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 5: Now, you know worth pointing out he doesn't have the 386 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: ability as a mayor of New York to seize the 387 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 5: means of production or to collectivize hardly anything. But the 388 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 5: fact that he is in favor of again maybe the 389 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 5: most deadly word in all of language going back over 390 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 5: the last century or so. The fact that he's in 391 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 5: favor of it is just wild. It'd be like if 392 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 5: you had a right winger say, we need to deal 393 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 5: with these immigrants through a holocaust of removal or something 394 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 5: final solution. 395 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. Yeah, it's amazing. It is this stunning. 396 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 6: We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the 397 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 6: warmth of collectivism. 398 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: Straight off a mouth. Poster from nineteen fifty. 399 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: Eight Wow, walk around Cuba, walk around the Soviet Union. 400 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Talk to me about the warmth of collectivism. That's just bizarre. 401 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's obscene. Now he does have some power within. 402 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: New York City. 403 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: This is se A Weaver, his New York City tenant 404 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: director is going to be in charge of all rentals. 405 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: Listen to her, would you? It's eighteen Michael. 406 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 7: I think the reality is is that for centuries we've 407 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 7: really treated property as an individualized good and not a 408 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 7: collective good. And we are going to trend. Additioning to 409 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 7: treating it as a collective good and towards a model 410 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 7: of shared equity will require that we think about it differently, 411 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 7: and it will mean that families, especially white families, but 412 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 7: some pot families who are homeowners as well, are going 413 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 7: to have a different relationship to property than the one 414 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 7: that we currently have. 415 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: Wait now, sweetheart, a lot of white homeowners well, and 416 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: some pocs are going to have a different relationship with 417 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: their property than they have right now. I don't think 418 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: I need to explain to you, folks what that means. 419 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: We are going to confiscate your property and the state 420 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: will control it. The state, not the state of New York. 421 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: But the state capitalists. Yeah, wow, to a bit more 422 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: s extinct, she said. A couple of years ago, she 423 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: tweeted this private property, including in kind of especially homeownership 424 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: is a weapon of white supremacy masquerading as wealth building 425 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: public policy. 426 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: Home ownership is white supremacy. That's correct. 427 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people who own homes need to have a 428 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: different relationship with their property. 429 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: Well, you can't accuse them of like trying to fool 430 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 5: us by pretending to be something else, because that ain't 431 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 5: what they're doing. Yeah, points for honesty. Mamnami said back 432 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 5: in June, I don't think we should have billionaires. Is 433 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 5: there a point to being a billionaire besides for power? Wait, 434 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: this is somewhat crazies, but. 435 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: It's for children and the childlike Only a child or 436 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: an ignoramus could fall for these arguments. Unfortunately, we have 437 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: a lot of childlike adults and more ignoramuses than certainly 438 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: we ought to start exporting them. The United States has 439 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: a net surplus of ignoramuses. Unfortunately, so does much of 440 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: the rest of the world, so they're not buying you know, 441 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: you're right. 442 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 5: I focused on the second half of the phrase, where 443 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 5: he talks about the collectivism, the warmth of collectivism, but 444 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 5: the frigidity of rugged individualism. 445 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: Wow, it's bad to be a rugged individual Yes, exactly. 446 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: It's horror, horri doubloo. Just the idea of being able 447 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 2: to do what I want, how I want. It's scary. 448 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: I want the warmth of collectivism, which is worth so 449 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: well your self sufficient. 450 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: That's sick. 451 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 5: Wow, it's urging that the mayor of probably the most 452 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 5: important city on earth, whether he has the power to 453 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 5: do all these things or. 454 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: Not, believes that stuff. 455 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and people voted for him like crazy. 456 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bernie goes to show you the incredible allure of 457 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: that particular fraud. 458 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: It's amazing. It is. It is the shapel blonde who 459 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: says I'm a little drunk of. 460 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: Political philosophies is like, oh my God, give me some 461 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: of that. 462 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how harri of it. It doesn't matter how. 463 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: Many people she murders in cold blood, like openly on 464 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: the streets. The next generation comes along and says, ooh, 465 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: give me a place. 466 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: Seriously, what do you think the goal was? 467 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 5: As a I don't know if he wrote his own 468 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 5: speech or his speech writers, but he signed off on it. 469 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 5: What's the goal of poking everybody who doesn't agree with 470 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 5: that the way he did? I mean, that is just, oh, 471 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 5: don't I don't think he even sees. 472 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: It that way. 473 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: No, he was selling what he believes to people who 474 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: were his. 475 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: Customers. 476 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 5: Do you think he realizes the extent that for the 477 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 5: normal part of the country. 478 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: That that is just horrific? 479 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 5: Or is he because he's it's hard to imagine the 480 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 5: circles he's been in his whole life, right right. 481 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if he realizes it, but I do 482 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: know that he doesn't care. Yeah, I mean, so hardcore 483 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: socialists have never cared what the burgeois he thinks. Yeah, 484 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're right, their whole philosophy. I do think 485 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: that he has spent his whole life around, you know, 486 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: intellectuals and socialists, and that that crowd so much that 487 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't realize what that sounds like to the rest 488 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: of us. Right Hey, getting back, Yeah, I have time 489 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: for this, and I'm so glad. I'm reminded of a 490 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: couple of things. Number One, Matt Tayeebe saying we're in 491 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: the upper class twits promoting revolution point in our country, 492 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: and then we. 493 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: Have Type who tweeted out that. 494 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 5: Quote about the rigid fragility of the rigidness of it. 495 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: He just said, do you have that for you? I don't. 496 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 5: Oh, Matt Type just tweeted that quote out about the 497 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: warmth of collectivism and the rigidity of individual liberty or whatever, 498 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 5: and said, what the f? 499 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 6: He had the word, we will replace the frigidity of 500 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 6: rugged individualism the warmth of collectivism. 501 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt t betweeted on what the f. 502 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: You can't tell you what time it is in less 503 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: than four thousand words? Put to that plainly, and a 504 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: wordsmith is skilled as mad is anyway, So I was 505 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: reminded of that. And also, excuse me, the piece that 506 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: Charles Lane wrote about mostly about Charles or I'm sorry 507 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: about George Orwell, about when Orwell, who is a socialist, 508 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: actually got exposed to the working class, specifically minors. He 509 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: wrote a book called The Road to Wigan Pier. I 510 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: think that's how you pronounce it, but anyway about read 511 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: it essentially, Yeah, it's about him coming up against the 512 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: reality of the working class and socialism and that sort 513 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: of thing. And Orwell wrote this, and I think it's 514 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: absolutely perfect. There are a couple of things you're going 515 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: to want to substitute here as examples. But Orwell writes, 516 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: we've reached a stage where the very word socialism calls up. 517 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: On the one hand, a picture of aeroplanes, tractors, and huge, 518 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: glittering factories of glass and concrete. On the other hand, 519 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: a picture of vegetarians with wilting beards, of Bolshevik commissars, 520 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: half gangster, half Gramophone, of earnest ladies and sandals, shockheaded 521 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: Marxists chewing polysyllables, escaped Quakers, birth control fanatics, and labor 522 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: Party backstairs crawlers. Socialism, at least on this island, does 523 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: not smell any longer of revolution in the overthrow of tyrants. 524 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: It smells of crankishness, machine worship, and the stupid cult 525 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: of Russia. Unless you can remove that smell, and very 526 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: rapidly fascism may win. And Charles Lane points out, substitute 527 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: electric cars for airplanes, and trans kids for birth control, 528 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: and free Palestine for the stupid cult of Russia. And 529 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: Orwell could be writing about academics in the Bay area 530 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: of Mamdani's fan base in Brooklyn and Manhattan substitute Maga 531 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: for fascism, and the parallels are even clearer. 532 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 5: You know. 533 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: It's before we went on vacation. 534 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 5: I talked about this Christmas present I bought myself. I 535 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 5: bought myself an original, authentic poster from China in the 536 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 5: late fifties about the Great Leap forward and how great 537 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 5: it was. 538 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: Going to be. 539 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: And that killed depends on who you ask, fifteen to 540 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 5: forty million people by collectivizing farming and all kinds of 541 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 5: different things. And at gunpoint, and you mentioned the idea 542 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 5: that I can have that on my wall as an idea. 543 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm mocking that. I'm not admiring that. 544 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 5: I'm just I mean, as an idea of this is 545 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 5: what governments can do, come up with these kind of 546 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 5: bad ideas and killed millions. 547 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: But you can't do that with Nazi stuff. 548 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 5: You can't do that Nazi And that's probably a good 549 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 5: thing that we're just so turned off by the idea 550 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 5: of Nazi. You shouldn't talk about you shouldn't, you know, 551 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 5: give that any air whatsoever. What's the idea that. 552 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: You can give air to communism? Well, right, I think 553 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: you know the whole Nazi thing. You're right, maybe it 554 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: is a good idea. But the contrast is the amazing. 555 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. The Nazi poster up. 556 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: You could say, oh no, no, I'm a collector of 557 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: I study propaganda. I've always said I'm fascinated by it. 558 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: And this is propaganda from an evil regime. This is 559 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: what it looks like. And people will still think I'm bad. 560 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: He's an f N closet Nazi. 561 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: Right. Well, my point is that people are knee jerk. 562 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 5: You cannot even go half a step toward Nazism, but 563 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 5: people let you go all the way toward communism. They 564 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 5: just advocated openly, never mind having the post that killed 565 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 5: more people used the same phrases, run for office on 566 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: it and nobody blinks an eye. 567 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: Now wild. 568 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, wild is one name for moronic, idiotic, ignorant and 569 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: frightening and frightening. 570 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be keeping our eye on that. Among other things. 571 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 5: I've got something about New Year's I'll bet you haven't heard. 572 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 5: I guess it's all the rage with the young people. 573 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 5: Did you crawl under a table on New Year's Eve? 574 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 5: You didn't, You should have the only way you can 575 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 5: make sure you have a good year. Among other things 576 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 5: on the way, stay tuned Ilia Malinan might be a 577 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 5: household name here. In just a couple of weeks, Ilia Mallinan, 578 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 5: you'll know him. Everyone will know him. He is one 579 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 5: of our star skaters that will be at the Winter Olympics, 580 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 5: which starts in just a few weeks in Italy. He 581 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 5: is the only person. He's a high school kid. He's 582 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: the only person to ever land a quad in. 583 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: Competition, and I've landed a couple in practice, but there 584 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: are no cameras present, so I have. 585 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: To take my word. You just have to believe the 586 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: many people who are wowed by your. 587 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I'm certain I left up in 588 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: the air world around a bunch of times, and I 589 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: was facing the same way, so I think it was four, yeah, four, 590 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: at least. 591 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 5: Four, Katie, are you familiar with the trend that is 592 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 5: the sneak arena? That is ballerina shoes which have been 593 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 5: popular with women various times, coming and going, and now 594 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 5: they're kind of turned into a sneaker. So it's a 595 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 5: combination ballerinas, slipper and sneaker, the sneak arena. 596 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: I guess it's I guess it's very hot. I don't 597 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: know that I don't know that. I know it to 598 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: be called that, but yeah, I've seen them. 599 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 5: Okay, they're viral, so you get those on your feet 600 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 5: as soon as possible. 601 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 602 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 5: Also came across this is your scalp the new IT 603 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 5: body part. Consumers are increasingly fixating on their scalps, turning 604 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 5: to head spas, pricey treatments and products to combat thin 605 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 5: hair and irritation. 606 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: I mean, no, they're not. No, they're not just leaving 607 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: it there. No, they're not. 608 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: And the idea that it's new that people are I 609 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: have thinning hair. 610 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: Why I'm concerned this is new in twenty twenty. Shut 611 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: the fot. 612 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: You aren't going to head spas. I'm not falling through 613 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: the fake trends. 614 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: I haven't noticed those popping up. The scalp spas. 615 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 5: There you go, see, yeah, where you go, and they 616 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: just focus on your scalp. 617 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: The scalp is the new IT body part. 618 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 5: Ah right, I'm all skinny as a baby, Show me 619 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 5: your scalp. And then there was some announcement some country 620 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 5: thinks they've actually cracked the coat on growing hair. So 621 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 5: I might have, as my brother said, I'm gonna have 622 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 5: bangs in a mullet by the. 623 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: End of the year, May one thousand dollars. 624 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 5: So we're at New Year's Eve and we're sitting around 625 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 5: talking about things. It's amazing to me how some people 626 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 5: embrace the New Year's resolution thing, and then if you 627 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 5: don't embrace it, you're hostile toward it. There's no in between. Apparently, 628 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 5: it's like you got to be a hostile at the 629 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 5: idea that you could improve yourself or I don't know. 630 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 5: I don't know what makes people mad about it, but 631 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 5: if you ask somebody, they either have one or they're 632 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: angry at the topic. 633 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: I think it's the ubiquity of it. It's the obligatory 634 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: feel of the whole thing. Man, I don't know, I 635 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: will reject. I love the idea of a reset and evaluation. 636 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: It's like it's like running a business. You take your 637 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: log at the end of the year. 638 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 5: How did this go? How did that go? What do 639 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 5: we need to do more of and less of? Anyway, 640 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 5: one of the young people at our gathering said, oh, 641 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 5: did anybody bring any grapes? And I said, why would 642 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 5: anybody bring me to grapes? Grapes under the table, And 643 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 5: they're all like duh, I guess that's a thing. Eating 644 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 5: twelve grapes under a table at midnight is how you 645 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 5: ensure yourself you're going to have a good year. 646 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: That's funny. 647 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: I'd heard about eating the grapes in the context of 648 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: Venezuelan's but not in the table did In fact. 649 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 5: It's a New Year's Eve thing in my one niece, 650 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 5: who's twenty three or something like that. I don't know 651 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 5: how she's out of college starting in real life. She said, 652 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 5: it doesn't work. I did it last year and I 653 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 5: had a bad year. Well that's just science exactly, twelve 654 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 5: grapes under the table, So maybe if you didn't catch 655 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 5: it this year, maybe do it next year. 656 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 2: I enjoy grapes. It couldn't hurt. 657 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 5: I like this picture of a glom Marco Rubio where 658 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 5: it says Rubio realizing he's going to be president of Venezuela, 659 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 5: governor of Cuba, and shaw of Iran. 660 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: Oh, that's good. 661 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 5: We could talk about all of those things an hour four. 662 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 5: What there's an hour four there is? If you don't 663 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 5: get it or Miso segment, you can always get our 664 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 5: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. 665 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the. 666 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: Relationship with Venezuela going to look like going forward. That 667 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: is the question nobody has the answer to, and we 668 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: mean nobody. Armstrong and Getty