WEBVTT - The Most Interesting Teams Tiers with J.J. Jansen 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.800 Welcome to NFL Daily, where one of the hosts Today's 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.560 preparation for NFL training Camp is very, very. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.680 Different than the other hosts. I'm Jordan Rodrig. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.320 Filling in, of course for the great Greg Rosenthal while 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.239 he's on vacation. Joining me as co host today is 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.079 my friend, one of my favorite people to speak to 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.480 in general and certainly on this show. A long snapper 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.320 heading into we've recently found out his nineteenth not eighteenth, 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.280 nineteenth NFL season, host on Sirius XM and co host 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.120 of the JJ and Luke podcast. It's JJ Jansen. Welcome back, JJ, 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:39.839 I appreciate it. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.040 Thank you. I'm going to get full credit for every year. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.920 At this point long Snappers, they don't have a whole 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.720 lot of stats, so years of service is definitely one 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.199 of the most important ones that we've got, so we'll 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.479 get full credit for that. But I'm so this is 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.920 gonna be a blast. I'm so excited to be joining you. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:57.960 We've been friends for a long time. We love talking 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.400 ball and just hanging out and all those things. One 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.240 of the beauties of Beat reporters in the lockero, and 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.000 there's a lot of back and forth and all that 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.520 but you get to build relationships with the people covering 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.720 you in so I know yours is a friendship I've 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:11.640 enjoyed for a long time. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.720 And we've already covered you don't have many normy friends, JJ, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.319 you have a lot of athlete Hall of Famer type friends, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.560 and I'm very honored that I'm one of your normy friends. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.039 So how else would we have become. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.880 Normy friends without the beat writer player locker room situation. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:31.040 Basically, my friendship groups revolve around pro athletes and parents 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.800 that their kids go to my kids' school. That's the 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.920 phase of life that I'm currently in, and I always laugh. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.720 My oldest is thirteen, and when you have that conversation like, hey, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:42.840 you got to do well in school, you're probably not 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.160 going to be a professional athlete, Like you have to 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.559 do all that. When my dad gave me that talk, 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.560 that made sense. I didn't know any professional athletes. My 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.360 oldest son only knows professional athletes, so he thinks I'm crazy. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.880 So it's an interesting parenting dynamic trying to emphasize academics 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.840 to kids that only know pro athletes hanging around their dads. 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.520 Yeah, it's like that arrested development meme. Where it's like, well, 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.399 it worked for those people, so it could work. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.840 It could work for me, right, Absolutely, He's he's full 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.560 on board. All all of my kids think they are 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.720 going to be in pro sports, which would do nothing 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.960 but uh would make me feel really good. But uh, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:22.840 it is. It's a little bit of an interesting dynamic 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.920 around here. But we have lots of normy friends. We 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.920 know doctors and lawyers and architects. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:28.480 I believe you. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.440 One of my one of my best friends has a 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.120 demo company, so it's it's all up and down the spectrum. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.400 So we got we got normy friends. You're a normy friend, 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:37.320 but that's a good thing. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.720 Yeah, Hey, JJ has lawyer and doctor friends guys. Oh, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:41.959 normal normy friends. 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.160 Yeah, I believe I believe you there, Jja. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.240 It's like like my lawyer friends are like real estate 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:48.480 construction lawyers. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:49.840 Like it's it's kind. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.120 Of like the boring kind. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:51.440 Yeah. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:52.000 Okay. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.919 I was an accounting major, so I feel like I'm 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.080 pretty comfortable saying there are certain jobs that just aren't 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.400 that exciting, and those are the people we'll I hang 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:00.680 out with. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:01.320 So that's me. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:02.360 I love that for you. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.720 I have a question for you before we have a 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.080 really exciting show coming up today. We're gonna do quote 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:12.960 unquote most Interesting team Tiers, a completely subjective topic, by 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.240 the way. So I'm just heading off at the past. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:16.679 All of the people who are going to be in 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.720 our mentions yelling at us for not putting their teams 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.760 in certain tiers. I bet they won't even be able 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:25.280 to differentiate between like the level of quality between the tiers. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.120 It's just what we think is most interesting, right. So 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:29.440 that's we're gonna get to that in a minute. And 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.119 also we have some news we're gonna get to here 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.800 in a moment. But as I was preparing for this show, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.200 I had this question, And every time I talk to you, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:37.560 I'm like, man, next time I talk to you them, 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.360 I should really ask JJ this question. How does it 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.760 make you feel that when you google your name, one 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.640 of the top results that comes up is is JJ 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.400 Jansen still on the Panthers. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.760 I didn't know that that was a thing. That doesn't 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:56.920 surprise me. So I do a. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.600 Weekly spot here in show Arlotte with Mac and Bowe. 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.280 You remember in wfn Z they're great guys. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:05.600 Yeah, And on. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.640 The weekly spot they do a segment of ask JJ 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:11.040 Inevitably everyone asks me how old I am? 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:12.360 This past week? 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.840 You know, around July fourth, was was I there at 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:19.360 the signing of the Declaration of Independence? So as a 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.680 forty year old NFL player, I might as well be 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.160 as old as Benjamin Franklin. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:24.839 So I've gotten used to it. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:29.360 But that doesn't Again, our stats are primarily longevity driven, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.160 so I take it as a term of endearment. 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.039 Yeah, we could get into an entire other show of 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.120 what advanced metrics could you be used to quantify talent 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:40.320 among long snappers? 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.200 At the lay person could understand. 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:46.120 I'm sure that is some sort of genius investor project 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.080 that you'll have going once you finally do decide to retire. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:50.600 I hope you keep playing forever. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.160 I hope you're ninety out there just spinning at fifteen 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.360 yards back JJ. We'll start with the news today before 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.160 we get to our segment. It is like some a 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.479 couple serious topics. We've had a lot of sad news 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.479 catch up this week. Earlier this week, Nick Schuk and 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.280 I hosted a show. If the listeners haven't caught that yet, 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.480 it was our Kids in Charge show. Greg is on vacation, 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.560 so the kids are deciding you know who, you know 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:17.080 how the house party works here, but some sad news 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:22.039 and then continuation of more sad news. Marshawn Neeland was 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:27.560 posthumously diagnosed with CTE. The Concussion and CTE Foundation announced 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.119 this week. The former Dallas Cowboys defensive end of course, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.679 died by suicide last fall. He was just twenty four 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.160 years old. The family has released a statement. While this 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.800 diagnosis does not change the tragedy of his passing, it 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.440 provides important context about some of the struggles he may 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.000 have been facing. We continue to remember Marshaan with compassion 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.480 for the person he was, rather than defining him by 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.120 the final moments of his life. A really really sad situation. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.800 Our thoughts are with his family. Of course. JJ, you're 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.640 a current player. You've been active with the NFLPA. I 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.400 know you're active in discussions about, you know, how players 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.680 could protect themselves. What this conversation is in locker rooms 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.480 and outside of it. I just sort of want to 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.479 get out of the way for you here. What is 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.240 your reaction seeing this news? 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.120 Well, yeah, it's a continuation of just sort of a 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.440 sad story. I think that statement from their family is 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.240 it's beautiful, right. You don't want anyone's life to be 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.400 remembered in one moment or a tragic ending in any 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.960 sort of way. So I think that's fantastic just how 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:36.760 they're able to memorialize him and such sweetened and significant words. 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.880 Look, we'd all be lying if we didn't think that. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.359 Football is a violent sport, and there are certain risks 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.440 that come with the game. One of the things that 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.440 I commend the NFL and then all of the trickle 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.080 down through college and high school and into pop Warner 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.680 is doing our very best to keep the essence of 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.440 the game, it's physicality and toughness, while also taking away 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:02.320 the unnecessary risks are associated with head traumas and head 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.080 to head contact in any sort of way. And we 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.440 certainly are well aware that head trauma concussions at all 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.960 levels of sports and in all different kinds of sports 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.679 are real and significant injuries. Whether you're talking about soccer 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:20.040 or baseball, basketball, football, we have a lot of it. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.480 It's certainly not unique to our sport, though, And what 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.600 I think I want to commend the NFL in and 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.440 just the football in general, is, hey, look, how do 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.560 we make our games safer that we can keep the 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.040 essence of the physicality and the toughness, and hey, the 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.200 toughest guys are playing at the NFL level, but also 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.520 make this really a game that boys and girls can 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.880 play at young ages with the flag football movements and 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.640 things of that sort without incurring the same sort of risks. 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.160 So at the NFL level, Look, we are all well 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:53.080 aware of the risks. This information kind of come out. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.280 I don't want to say it's a surprise. It's certainly 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.480 shocking and sad, but we know that these are part 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.680 of the risks that come with the game, and everyone 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.040 that plays does so willingly, and I think that's why 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.760 you continue to see the league do everything it can 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.000 to take out unnecessary head injuries. We've seen adjustments to 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:14.080 the kickoff rules. We've seen adjustments in how defensive players 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.880 are allowed to hit offensive players, protections of quarterbacks and 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.560 things of that sort, the guardian caps and the improvement 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.560 in the helmet. We know this is a significant and 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.880 serious issue and we're continuing to work towards it, and 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.800 these are just reminders of the work is still there 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.320 to be done. But we've made incredible improvements and need 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:32.160 to continue to do so. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:32.800 In the future. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:37.240 I think one of the things that really was surprising 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.160 to me, not in a good or bad way, just 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:44.640 came as a surprise to me is the duality by 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.640 which NFL players do operate. And obviously I'm someone who 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.440 never played the game, and certainly never played at a 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.720 pro level. I think I would probably be like a 0:08:54.800 --> 0:09:00.280 right tackle, I would assume, but I feel like that 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.679 that duality of we carry this awareness with us for 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.760 the most part, the locker rooms are a range of humanity. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.560 I don't think people understand that enough. It is the 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:14.200 widest range of human nature and opinion and perspective that 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.320 you could find anywhere on the planet, and it's all 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.640 condensed into like, you know, ninety seats inside of a room, right, 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.720 And there's a duality among a lot of NFL players, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.400 certainly veterans too, who are thinking about life after football 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.839 and what that will look like, of carrying that awareness 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:36.760 with them while also committing fully to the game itself. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.680 And I know you've seen this and you also carry 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.880 it with you. The complexity of what that really means 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.720 and sort of like the nuance of what that really 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:46.760 means as a player. 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.480 Yeah, it's a big boy sport, and you have to 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.080 handle a lot of different challenges, right, and I think 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.360 we would be remiss if we didn't also talk about 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.360 that there's a lot of mental health, yeah, things that 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.600 need to be handled inside of an NFL locker room. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.160 There's a tremendous amount of pressure on players. There's a 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.480 tremendous sense of identity and being a player, and when 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:12.360 you are struggling, whether it's professionally or personally, and that 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:17.480 identity is shook, it can cause a lot of potential issues. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.920 And so I think that's where the league is really 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.720 good about adding to the player's dock at the ability 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.000 to see healthcare professionals and things of that sort. But 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.160 I would also say that one of the things that 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.719 I hope that we can overtime continue to kind of 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.439 get back to when I first got into the league. 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.400 And this is a long time ago, so two thousand 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.120 and eight, my mentor was John Casey. So John played 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.640 in the era pre free agency, and then the era 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:49.960 pre free agency. Mentoring was a really big deal because 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.079 you were on a roster and without free agency, you 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.800 would just stay on the same team basically until you retired, 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.560 unless you got traded, which was pretty rare. So I 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.800 got mentored by a guy that knew that as part 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:04.439 of the culture. In today's sports landscape, people are constantly 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.839 moving around and one of the things that I think 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.360 we all should be mindful of is sometimes that creates 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.680 a very lonely feeling for athletes, whether you're a college athlete, 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.920 a high school athlete, a pro athlete. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.439 And so guys need mentors. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.439 Guys need people that they can confide in, and a 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.800 lot of times it is away from an NFL locker room. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.480 It is away from the building because as a player, 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.920 you're supposed to put on like your best self when 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:28.760 you walk through there. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:29.560 At the end of the day. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.600 We say this all time, like nobody cares what you 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.760 feel like, nobody cares how hurt you are. The expectations 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.080 go on the field and perform and perform at your best. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.760 But we're still human beings, and so guys need to 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.560 find those mentors outside the building. And I would just 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.520 implore any veteran player or retired player, you know I'm 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.160 a veteran player, like go mentor guys, because there is 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.120 there's the physical, there's the emotional, there's the mental, and 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.240 there's a lot of stuff and we're going to go 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:57.760 to training camp in two or three weeks and it's 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.599 all give you about football and we've got to be 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.680 able to manage that, right, Marshaun Lynch, You know, handle 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.360 handle your mental as well as you can. And I 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.760 think that's something that players have to care for other 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.239 players as much as anyone, because that's just the duality 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.000 of our sport. It's intense, it's physical, but we're still 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:15.640 human beings. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.840 Yeah, really, well said JJ. I think too before we 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:24.280 put a ball on this topic. The the shortened the 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.880 shortening of contract terms over time, the trends of three 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.040 year deals, the trade market increasing. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:30.360 The way that it has. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.480 It exacerbates all of these things that you're talking about. 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.880 That sense of never feeling settled two feet not firmly 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:38.520 on the ground as much as you're putting in and 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.120 committing to the building that you're in. That sort of 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.240 constant rotation, certainly, the churn at the at the bottom 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.200 of the roster, the thing about football that you love. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.600 And also it's very bittersweet, especially in conversations like this 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.720 where a tragedy has occurred, is every little piece connects 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.160 to everything else, and that's the nature of the sports schematically, 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.960 that's the nature of what it is in side these buildings. 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.559 Every it's a nature of the infrastructure of the sport. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.560 Now every little piece of it does connect to everything else. 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.600 And I think these really homegrown and to your point, 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.720 localized efforts to try to just pay attention to the 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.400 little details of people when they're around you and vice 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:22.000 versa are so so crucial in the sport and it 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.920 really will lead to you know, healthy people and a 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:25.600 healthy sport. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:27.560 Just a brief update. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.920 We have been updating as the situation has continued to 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.800 unfold on with Terry and Arnold. He is a waiting 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.800 trial on charges related to kidnapping and robbery. He was 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.520 released by the Lions last week. Just as a small 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.120 point of update on this ongoing story, he was not 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.440 claimed on waivers. You would feel that that would be 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.880 an obvious thing as this continues to the situation continues 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.319 to be you know, litigated in court, but there has 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.560 been some reporting by the insiders out there that a 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.240 couple of teams express their interests in the corner. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:13:59.920 Will keep you posted. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.640 Before we get to our segment, We're going to take 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.960 a quick break on the other side we do have 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.600 a really fun segment for you guys, Most Interesting Team Tiers, 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:14.200 a totally subjective arranging of NFL teams ahead. 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:15.840 Of the twenty twenty sixth season. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.680 Welcome back. That's my Greg impression to NFL Daily. I'm 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.680 here with JJ Jansen, one of my favorite people to 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.240 talk to also to have on the show. 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:39.400 JJ. We are very cautiously. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.880 Optimistic about this new segment that we're unrolling. This is 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.200 a perfect segment to do without Greg because it is 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:50.240 completely subjective, not at all based on data, although if 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:51.600 you want to use data, you can't. You can do 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:52.480 whatever the heck you want. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.400 You know, I love data, But this subjectivity is I 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.600 know you. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.320 Have the angel on your shoulder and the demon on 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.240 your shoulder at all all times. I am talking to the 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.360 angel on your shoulder right now. Of subjectivity. So it's 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:10.800 a combination of everything from vibes to rabbit hole topics 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:16.440 to personal preferences. It's Most Interesting Team Tiers. So how 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.360 this is gonna work is I'm going to introduce each 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.960 tier as we go for the listener. There are five 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.160 total tiers. JJ has been given these tiers in advance 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.960 to sort the teams. We will discuss which teams we 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.320 think should go into each tier, will either agree or 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.080 argue our choices. Eric, I don't expect there to be 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.160 any tiebreakers because that would just slow the show down. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.280 But you will break any tiebreakers. Eric, behind the glass, 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.400 I am the one you have to see in person 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.640 every day. So that's not a threat. I'm just noting that. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.400 I just want that said, and just a reminder for 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.440 the listener. For the love of God, this is not 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.600 an argument about quality, win or lost predictions whatever. They're 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.480 not rankings. I can find a team like the Chiefs, 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.360 who I think will be awesome this year, simply not 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.320 that interesting. These are interest tears, JJ, what say you? 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.880 I am first of all, I'm ready to go. Yes. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.000 Second of all, it's going to be really hard for 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.800 me to not bring in analytics, but I am ready. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.480 You totally can if you, I probably will. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.320 I'm just I'm just giving you a heads up that 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.640 I will probably have some sort of number in my 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.640 head half the time, but I'll uh. I Also, it 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.920 took me a little bit because we've talked about this before. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.720 I'm not super pop cultural ready, and so I had 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.920 to dake. I had to do a little bit of 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.520 googling to make sure I was up to date on 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.640 what all these tiers actually mean. So I am ready, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.840 I'm ready to go, but I'm just letting you know 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:46.120 that I'll probably beat you. But that's okay. I just 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.240 want to clarify that that's all to say. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:49.960 At the end of the day, as long as we 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.440 know it is a competition. Yes, And also this is 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:58.120 the show idea and concept and also organizational chart that 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.960 would make Greg literally all over and ceased to be. 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.720 So I feel like this is the perfect time for 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:06.600 us to be doing this. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:06.960 Okay. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.399 This is all about content, baby, yes. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:10.359 And subjectivity. 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.840 We love that you can't argue with you can't argue 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:13.679 with a moving target. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:15.239 There you go. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:20.480 So, okay, the first tier I'm calling Christopher Nolan movies. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:21.200 Okay. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:26.720 So these are teams of utmost interest, utmost complexity, or 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:30.240 at most confusion in a good way. Who is your 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:31.800 first team that you would put in Tier one? 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.640 To me, this is the easiest one. The New York Giants. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:37.200 I don't know. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.800 I don't know what's going on there, but I I'm 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.280 here for I love it. Cam Skataboo and Jackson Dart, 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:49.280 my kids call the Creating Cowboys. Those guys are nuts. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.920 They are a lot of fun. They've got a nasty defense, 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.600 a new head coach, we had a little we had 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.040 a little ota back and forth between the guys, and 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.080 I just think it's gonna be fascinating. And not to mention, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.080 I think this is the analytic in me. I think 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.720 they got the most wins baked into that roster. They 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.679 were not a four and five win team last year. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.600 I thought Brian Dable actually did a pretty good job. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.680 They lost a couple of close games, and then they 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.800 get a new head coach, a new energy, a new vibe. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.160 But I'm a big Jackson Dart fan. I think he's 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.720 gonna be really good. Cam Scataboo will literally run through anything, 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.280 and you know you and I know I'm a big 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.119 Brian Burns fan. So they've got They've got good energy 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:29.960 on both sides of the ball. I think I think 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.320 that they're gonna be must see TV for seventeen weeks. 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.719 I first of all, did not have the Giants anywhere 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.400 in my tiers on accident, So. 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.840 Good for you that you that you put them in here. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.520 Second, I think their offensive line is going to be 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.560 better than people expected to be this year. They've done 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.600 some reshuffling there and obviously it's a big time Jim 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.959 Harbaugh or yet John Harbascu's me puts his identity on 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.600 their draft class, bringing in guys that are sort of 0:18:58.640 --> 0:18:59.240 his guys. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.320 Though are they and what will they be? Really? 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:03.840 And I think they're also a team that's going to 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.960 load up in heavier personnel on offense. I do think 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.440 that they could be a team of utmost complexity or 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.399 utmost confusion, which is why I would probably agree with 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.320 you that they can be our first The New York 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:23.040 Giants can be our first team in Tier one. The 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.040 next team that I'm going to the team that I'm 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.080 going to nominate for Tier one is the Chicago Bears. 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.640 First of all, I just think it's they're the utmost 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.280 interest team. I think that they were riding sky high 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.360 by the end of the year. They had some real 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.240 low probability moments. Caleb Williams obviously the architect of those, 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:46.080