1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Sing the best idea and on a Friday, I'll tell 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: you the distribution For me, it's mostly through Apple. There's 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: many other ways to get a podcast from Bloomberg podcast 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: but just two points here. As we ramp up a 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: new digital reality for everything I'm doing in economics, finance, investment, 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: and international relations. The first thing is out on YouTube. 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Subscribe to Bloomberg Podcasts. That's really going to be the 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: platform forward one year, five years, ten years. The conduit, 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: the folding of all the work that Bloomberg does every 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: day it ends up in some form of audio file 12 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: and podcast. And the other is that I'm very much 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: focused on Apple podcasts. It's great, great distribution system, and 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: we're just thrilled with what our team is doing there. 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: This is an incredibly nuanced Friday. I can't say enough 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: about almost what I call micro tensions on the Bloomberg screen, 17 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: the launch pad screen, between equities, bonds, currencies, commodities, and 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: that micro tension on an inflation basis is this raging 19 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: debate about a stable inflation, some saying even higher inflation, 20 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: many many remodeling in a new disinflation to come Jim 21 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: Bianco has seized the high ground here. He's out of 22 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: Chicago and Bianco Research. Eighteen months ago he was a 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: lonely voice saying, don't be so certain about disinflation. We 24 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: get an update from Jim Bianco. 25 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: If you go to what the economists call the base effect, 26 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: the numbers from last year are very low, and we're 27 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: going to stay there. And that's going to be problematic 28 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: for a FED that is looking for confidence to cut rates. 29 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: They're going to continue to say, see sticky inflation. I 30 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: think the probability is above zero that we're going to 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: have a rate increase, but I don't think it's quite 32 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 3: at that fifty percent level that you would expect one. 33 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: But we are probably closer to that than a cut 34 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: right now. The data is just not there for a cut. 35 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: I mean, one payroll report that came in below expectations, 36 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: it was still one hundred and seventy six thousand jobs, 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: and that's nothing that you would look at and say, 38 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: this economy needs more stimulus. 39 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: Who to read this weekend to dovetail off Jim Bianco 40 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: without question. Lindsay Piegg's at Stifel, also out in the Midwest. 41 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: His adamant about the rationalizing I should say of a 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: rate increase. I can't say enough how lonely Bianco and 43 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: Piegsa are versus the zeitgeist of a new disinflation off 44 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: of oh, declining real estate prices and this, that and 45 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: the other thing. Taylor Swift tickets in Paris. They're not 46 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: declining and they're not part of the disinflationary trend. I 47 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: want to take some time here. I can't say enough 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: about how you have a theory or a belief and 49 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: there's a jump condition changed. There's a whole thing called 50 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: economic epistemology that talks about this. George Soros has been 51 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: very eloquent on it, out of Popper at LC in 52 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: the early fifties and onward. And don't want to go 53 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: into that right now, but you can have a jump 54 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 4: condition in thought. Decades ago, there was a company called 55 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 4: stern Stewart in a one volume book on economic value, 56 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: added that it didn't so much change the dialogue, but 57 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: began a dialogue over the silliness of what business media 58 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: does every day, which earnings, what a revenue is going 59 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: to do? What's gross to marts? Oh my god, ebit 60 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: dah I can't believe it. And basically what EVA said 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: economic value added was it's all hot air. You need 62 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: to look at the net operating profits after Texas, figure 63 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: out your own individual capital analysis and capital deployed and 64 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: capital allocation of a company. And there's a number of 65 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: different ratios here. And it's worth the subscription to a 66 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: Bloomberg terminal to go say Apple AAPL equity WACC the 67 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: way that average cost of capital screen WACC of the 68 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: Bloomberg is literally worth Why you buy a Bloomberg. It's 69 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: just that good. And the answer is this is a 70 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: whole science onto its own. And Craig Sterling was at 71 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: the advent of this with EVA Dimensions working at Credit 72 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 4: Suitees and now to Monday. This is one of the 73 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: highlights of what we've been doing on single best idea, 74 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: Craig Sterling here on if you don't allocate capital in 75 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: a good and constructive way, you are toast. 76 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 5: Most companies are being run very capital efficient. You know, 77 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: investors are not le letting them do things in the 78 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: past that may have destroyed returns on capital and hurt 79 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 5: future growth and ultimately their save price. Companies are being 80 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: well run. Not all, but the ones that aren't. We 81 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 5: see activists come in and I think you're seeing these 82 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 5: companies well run in analog semis. You know, this is 83 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 5: an industry that is generally well run. It's gotten more 84 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 5: concentrated in recent decade or so. So you've got the 85 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 5: winners that have done a good job. And you know, 86 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 5: you look at a company or an industry like chemicals 87 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 5: or energy, which have not been great stewards of capital 88 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 5: over time, but these companies are competing way more rationally, 89 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: not spending just to spend and grow, and the investors 90 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 5: are going to start rewarding. 91 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: This just a superb conversation, just what we love to do. 92 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: We've had a phenomenal week at Bloomberg Surveillance. I can't 93 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 4: I don't even know where to begin to describe on 94 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: the conversations because one of the highlights was Jess Meanton 95 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: where their definitive analysis of sweet greens. She is the 96 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: chief Surveillance SALID correspondent. No idea you could pay eighteen 97 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 4: dollars for eleven hundred calorie salad with a name I 98 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 4: can't pronounce. But the kids are lineup, Eric and the rest, 99 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 4: they're all lined up out the door. Fifteen feet deep 100 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: for a sweet green salad. That's my goal this week, 101 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna try to take a sweet green salad. 102 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: We'll see if I get in the door and am 103 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: able to make the order. Paul Sweeney says, you need 104 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: to take a course to make an order from New York. 105 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: We're on Apple car Play. 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