Speaker 1: You're listening to part Time Genius, the production of Kaleidoscope
Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio. Guess what Will?
Speaker 2: What's that Mango? So I was looking up.
Speaker 1: TikTok trends and I ended up on this channel from
Speaker 1: Mississippi Mema. Do you know her?
Speaker 2: So? You think because I live in the South, I
Speaker 2: know just all the memas. I guess No, I.
Speaker 1: Just thought you might know the channel. Also, she has
Speaker 1: a great accent, so you should know her. But in
Speaker 1: the video, she pulls up to a Sonic and she
Speaker 1: orders a doctor pepper with pickles, which apparently is the
Speaker 1: drink of the Summer. It's called a pickled doctor pepper.
Speaker 2: The drink of the summer. Is like this, is this
Speaker 2: an official drink at Sonic?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's official. I think it's
Speaker 1: more like a secret menu item. You know, it gets
Speaker 1: requested enough that the woman who took the order wasn't
Speaker 1: surprised by it at all.
Speaker 2: So what is in it? You said? It's called a
Speaker 2: pickled doctor pepper?
Speaker 1: Mm hm, Yeah, it's really complicated to make. Basically, you
Speaker 1: take it a giant doctor pepper, you put ice in it,
Speaker 1: and then you add five or six pickle slices or
Speaker 1: some pickle juice and that's it, and people go crazy
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 2: Oh man. I mean, I know about the kool Aid pickles,
Speaker 2: and I'm obviously a Doctor Pepper fan. It's a good drink,
Speaker 2: but I don't know anyone who's drinking pickled peppers.
Speaker 1: This is new to me, well me either, But I
Speaker 1: knew I had to try it. So I went out
Speaker 1: and I bought a Doctor Pepper, And honestly, it felt
Speaker 1: too ridiculous to like slice up a pickle and put
Speaker 1: it inside, So I just ate a few bites of
Speaker 1: a pickle and then I washed it down with the
Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper.
Speaker 2: Oh man, this is a real experiment. You are dedicated
Speaker 2: to the job, and so what what did it tastes like?
Speaker 1: It tastes like you're eating a pickle and washing it
Speaker 1: down with doctor Pepper. Oh oh that's a big Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, It did not change my life, but you know,
Speaker 1: it is the drink of the summer. Also, I wanted
Speaker 1: to celebrate Doctor Pepper because they've had a great year.
Speaker 1: Did you know that Doctor Pepper just tied Pepsi to
Speaker 1: be the second best selling soda in America?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that is huge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I feel like we should be high
Speaker 1: fiving over it. But Coke is still firmly in first place.
Speaker 1: But according to The Wall Street Journal and Fox, part
Speaker 1: of the reason is because Doctor Pepper keeps experimenting with
Speaker 1: new flavors, all of which appeal to gen Z. Plus,
Speaker 1: this pickled Dr Pepper trend has apparently been contributing to
Speaker 1: their popularity. Anyway, That's just the first of nine strange
Speaker 1: facts everyone should know about Dr Pepper. Let's dive in.
Speaker 2: Hey their podcast listeners, Welcome to part time Genius. I'm
Speaker 2: Will and as always I'm here with my good pal
Speaker 2: Mango and sitting there behind that big booth. I know
Speaker 2: everyone's curious what he's doing today because he's always up
Speaker 2: to something interesting. But it's our good friend Dylan. He's
Speaker 2: not in a great mood that he's actually angrily waving
Speaker 2: a picket sign and it says, oh I'm trying to read.
Speaker 2: It says no Pepper, no period, look at him, go Mango.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually talked to him before the show and
Speaker 1: he said, as someone who's really passionate about grammar, he's
Speaker 1: protesting Doctor Pepper until they put the period back in
Speaker 1: the name. I guess the doctor in the soda used
Speaker 1: to have a period after the R until the nineteen
Speaker 1: fifties and then they with the fun it looked weird.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I'm not going to join Dylan's
Speaker 1: grammar protest, but I do agree with him in spirit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's always right when you think
Speaker 2: about it. Well, speaking of the doctor, why don't we
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the doctor in Doctor Pepper
Speaker 2: Like it's always been kind of a mystery who this
Speaker 2: Doctor Pepper is. And Doctor Pepper is actually one of
Speaker 2: America's oldest sodas, first formulated in eighteen eighty five. It's
Speaker 2: a year older than coke, eight years older than Pepsi,
Speaker 2: and practically speaking, it's from Waco Tech Now. According to
Speaker 2: the Doctor Pepper Museum in Waco, it was invented by
Speaker 2: a pharmacist named Charles Alderton, and in fact, in the
Speaker 2: early years of the drink, people used to call the
Speaker 2: drink a Waco, which is kind of fun, and they
Speaker 2: call for the drink at the counter by saying, shoot
Speaker 2: me a Waco. But according to some its real origins
Speaker 2: are actually from Virginia, the way Texas Monthly tells it
Speaker 2: a young drugstore clerk perfected a tasty formula of twenty
Speaker 2: plus ingredients that you could add to soda water, and
Speaker 2: then sold it to a chemist on one condition that
Speaker 2: he would name the beverage after the clerk's father in law. Now,
Speaker 2: this was a physician named doctor Pepper, so he takes
Speaker 2: the drink with him to Texas starts this soda empire.
Speaker 2: Now all of this is a little apocryphal, but what
Speaker 2: we do know is that, like most of these early sodas,
Speaker 2: doctor Pepper was originally sold as a curel, which is
Speaker 2: likely why they added doctor to the title of the drink.
Speaker 2: But by nineteen seventy three, the CEO of Doctor Pepper
Speaker 2: was clarifying that quote, a spoonful of doctor Pepper will
Speaker 2: not relieve constipation, hives, excessive acidity, morbidity, sterility, bile, eczema, hysteria, bronchitis,
Speaker 2: or what ails you in general. And while folks still
Speaker 2: splash it on and some rub it on, I guess
Speaker 2: the only claim we make is that doctor Pepper is
Speaker 2: soothing to youngsters suffering post Ton selectomies. So that's what
Speaker 2: he clarified. Didn't do any of the other stuff, but
Speaker 2: it will help youngsters suffering from post Ton selectomies. So
Speaker 2: there you have it, mango.
Speaker 1: I love the idea of people rubbing Doctor Pepper on
Speaker 1: like it's a colone. Just flash, you're in this smell
Speaker 1: kind of good. I wonder why it was so important
Speaker 1: to the kid that the drink be named for his
Speaker 1: father in law, though.
Speaker 2: You know, of course, like so many of these stories,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of lore behind it. But another claim
Speaker 2: is that the doctor is doctor Charles T. Pepper, who
Speaker 2: is a Confederate physician. It's hard to tell what's true though,
Speaker 2: Like supposedly, the Doctor Pepper Museum has like a dozen
Speaker 2: different origin stories that they've tried to fact check. Not
Speaker 2: a whole lot of luck so far, though.
Speaker 1: Well, I know one of the things that Doctor Pepper
Speaker 1: has always pried itself on is the fact that it's
Speaker 1: an original flavor, right that no one knows what the
Speaker 1: twenty three ingredients are, et cetera. And I always laugh
Speaker 1: looking at those lists of Doctor Pepper knockoffs, like the
Speaker 1: Soda Lover's wiki has one hundred different budget variations, from
Speaker 1: Doctor Shasta to Doctor Bob, Doctor Topper, Doctor good Guy,
Speaker 1: doctor Gulpster, Doctor Sparkles, Doctor Wham, Doctor Slam, Doctor A Plus,
Speaker 1: and Professor Fizz.
Speaker 2: Like you're just making a few of these out, but
Speaker 2: that's a fun.
Speaker 1: List, just scratching the surface here. And there's some misters
Speaker 1: on there as well, because some of the sodas didn't
Speaker 1: make it through grad school, which does make me wonder
Speaker 1: about the origins of.
Speaker 2: Mister pib and so, so what did you learn?
Speaker 1: Basically that SODA's were very much a regional delicacy for
Speaker 1: a very long time. So aside from Coke and Pepsi,
Speaker 1: who are bottling their product nationally, you have things like
Speaker 1: Werners from Michigan or Moxie, which is from Maine, right,
Speaker 1: and Doctor Pepper was really considered a Southern drink. When
Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper started making a push to go wider, Coke
Speaker 1: was threatened, so they decided to introduce a competitor, and
Speaker 1: they tried a few times. According to Texas Monthly, Coke
Speaker 1: did some small scale tests of two drinks in the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties. One was called Texas Stepper and another one
Speaker 1: was called Chime. But in nineteen seventy two they rolled
Speaker 1: out a drink called Pepper, which obviously was a little
Speaker 1: close in name to Dr Pepper, so Dr Pepper sued them,
Speaker 1: and then they changed the name to Mister PIB. But
Speaker 1: what's really funny is that this entire time, Coke denied
Speaker 1: that they were trying to make a Doctor Pepper knock off.
Speaker 1: Like a Coke spokesperson told Texas Monthly quote, I haven't
Speaker 1: tasted Dr Pepper myself, so I wouldn't know how similar
Speaker 1: it is to Mister Pip. He goes on. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was meant to compete with Doctor Pepper as
Speaker 1: far as I know, Coke just felt there was a
Speaker 1: market for this kind of soft drink. It's ludicrous, especially
Speaker 1: knowing the name change. But the other part that's really
Speaker 1: funny is that Texas Monthly looked a little closer and
Speaker 1: found that even though mister PIB had no relation to
Speaker 1: Doctor Pep, and even though Coke wasn't trying to imitate
Speaker 1: the flavors, the places where they decided to test market
Speaker 1: Mister PIB were Waco, Texas, which is the birthplace of
Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper, and the other towns in the South that
Speaker 1: were strongholds of Dr Pepper. Yeah, yeah, it's super coincidence.
Speaker 1: But there's Actually, one other funny thing about the cover up.
Speaker 1: When mister pib first debuted, the color was brown, but
Speaker 1: Coca Cola quickly changed it to red, and according to mash,
Speaker 1: it's because Quote Coke was worried people would think it
Speaker 1: was a Rupier ripoff instead of a dr Pepper ripper.
Speaker 2: Ah, I see, yeah.
Speaker 1: Which is so funny to me. But what do you
Speaker 1: wanna what do you wanna talk about next?
Speaker 2: All right, well, all your talk of pickled Doctor Pepper
Speaker 2: made me think about the original Doctor Pepper hack, which
Speaker 2: was to heat it up on the stove. Have you
Speaker 2: heard about this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing like a piping hot Doctor Pepper on a
Speaker 1: hot day. But uh, do you know how how that
Speaker 1: hack got started?
Speaker 2: Apparently this goes right to the top, like like the
Speaker 2: drink was invented by Doctor Pepper's former company president, this
Speaker 2: guy Wesby R. Parker, who was irritated that his sales
Speaker 2: basically dropped to zero in the winter, so he was
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what to do with this. This
Speaker 2: was back in the nineteen fifties, so Parker started experimenting
Speaker 2: with different variations at home, just trying to make a
Speaker 2: winter mocktail of sorts. And he realized that when you
Speaker 2: heated doctor Pepper on a stovetop, it actually retained its flavor,
Speaker 2: and if you added a slice of lemon to it,
Speaker 2: it was really delicious. Now, the funny thing is Parker
Speaker 2: actually did a comparison and warmed up a bunch of
Speaker 2: different sodas, and his belief was that because Doctor Pepper
Speaker 2: was made with natural fruit flavors instead of artificial ones,
Speaker 2: he'd actually retained the flavor in a way that other
Speaker 2: sodas didn't. Anyway, the company started pushing the drink, and
Speaker 2: for a while, hot Doctor Pepper was served at the
Speaker 2: Cotton Bowl and other Southern regional football games in the winter.
Speaker 2: I'd not heard about this before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd never seen that. It's also kind of funny
Speaker 1: that all the variations are like pickle. Doctor Pepper tastes
Speaker 1: like doctor Pepper with pickle, he did, Doctor Pepper still
Speaker 1: tastes like Doctor Pepper. Just hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just just hot doctor Pepper. But you know,
Speaker 2: the company really tried to make it a thing for
Speaker 2: a while, and they pushed it the holidays as kind
Speaker 2: of a warm punch, and the next president of the
Speaker 2: company said he used to have it in place of coffee.
Speaker 2: Even told journalists that he'd have three or four hot
Speaker 2: Doctor Peppers in the morning and then a bunch of
Speaker 2: cold ones in the afternoon, but obviously it never really
Speaker 2: took off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also kind of want to try that.
Speaker 1: We should do another episode where we just test all
Speaker 1: these sodas from like, I feel like there's so many
Speaker 1: hacks online from like Coke with peanuts, Doctor Pepperoni, which
Speaker 1: is Doctor Pepper with pepperoni in it, like Doctor Pepper
Speaker 1: with a screamer. Oh, it's gonna be terrible. I really
Speaker 1: can't wait. Also, I didn't mention this, but earlier when
Speaker 1: I had that Doctor Pepper, like, I'd eaten the pickle
Speaker 1: separately and then I just left the Doctor Pepper in
Speaker 1: the bottle on the counter, and Henry walks over and
Speaker 1: he puts some mentos in it, and then down's the
Speaker 1: rest of it. It's like, why can't you just drink
Speaker 1: the Doctor Pepper?
Speaker 2: Yes, seriously, come on, Henry, that's a different drink you're
Speaker 2: supposed to do with. So what fact do you want
Speaker 2: to run with next?
Speaker 1: Here's a fun one. The Dallas NBC station went to
Speaker 1: the Doctor Pepper lab to see if they could get
Speaker 1: some tips on what those twenty three flavors and Doctor
Speaker 1: Pepper are, and of course they didn't have any luck.
Speaker 1: They were told the formula has been a secret since
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty five and that it's kept under lock and
Speaker 1: kena safe for sometimes even talked about being in two saves,
Speaker 1: with half the recipie in one and half the recipie another.
Speaker 1: But one thing they did find out is that when
Speaker 1: new flavors are sampled at the Doctor Pepper labs, they're
Speaker 1: all done under a blue light so that the tasters
Speaker 1: can't see the color of the beverage. Apparently the color
Speaker 1: of a drink can have a real impact on the
Speaker 1: way you perceive a drink, and the blue light keeps
Speaker 1: tasters honest.
Speaker 2: Which is great, But do you know what any of
Speaker 2: those twenty three flavors are? Like, I'm actually pretty curious
Speaker 2: about this now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I look that up as well, and there's a
Speaker 1: whole community of super fans online who've tried to figure
Speaker 1: it out, and according to Mashed, people think the main
Speaker 1: flavors are amaretto, almond, BlackBerry, black licorice, caramel, carrot, clove, cherry, ginger, juniper, lemon, molasses, nutmeg, orange, plum, pepper,
Speaker 1: root beer, rum, raspberry, vanilla, and most surprising to me,
Speaker 1: tomato toto incredibly yeah. Yeah, I guess if you blend
Speaker 1: all those things up and you add some seltzer, you've
Speaker 1: got a house formula for your own Doctor Will or
Speaker 1: mister Will or whatever you want to call it. But
Speaker 1: one thing that Doctor Pepper is adamant about, and they
Speaker 1: say this all over the list, is that there are
Speaker 1: no prunes in Doctor Pepper. According to Doctor Pepper's faq online.
Speaker 1: They've got a question, does Doctor Pepper contain prune juice?
Speaker 1: The answer is no, Doctor Pepper does not contain prune juice.
Speaker 2: That is that is very good to know. I will
Speaker 2: put fewer prunes and more tomatoes in my homemade Doctor
Speaker 2: Pepper from now on. But still got a few more
Speaker 2: facts to go. But why don't we take a quick
Speaker 2: break first.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to part time genius. When we're talking all
Speaker 1: things Doctor Pepper. So Will, where do you want to
Speaker 1: take it from here?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we've only got a few facts left.
Speaker 2: So you know, one of the things that's always interesting
Speaker 2: to me is the advertising over the years for all
Speaker 2: sorts of products. But especially sodas and foods and drinks
Speaker 2: like this. So in the early years they advertised Doctor
Speaker 2: Pepper for quote them vigor and vitality. You see what
Speaker 2: they did that did alliteration there, and they called it
Speaker 2: liquid Sunlight. But according to The Daily Meal, in the
Speaker 2: nineteen twenties, there was a study from Columbia University that
Speaker 2: showed that blood sugar tends to dip at ten am,
Speaker 2: two pm, and four pm. So Doctor Pepper decided to
Speaker 2: capitalize on this with the slogan drink a bite to
Speaker 2: eat at ten two and four. I had to read
Speaker 2: that a couple of times because just drink drink a
Speaker 2: bite to eat at ten to two and four. And
Speaker 2: basically they were pitching Doctor Pepper as three tiny square
Speaker 2: meals to give you this kick of sugar between your
Speaker 2: bigger square meals. And I guess according to the Daily Meal,
Speaker 2: the ads worked because wartime laborers kind of thought of
Speaker 2: it as their like their red bull or something, and
Speaker 2: so later in the fifties they continued that marketing line
Speaker 2: with the phrase the friendly Pepper upper. These are all
Speaker 2: such confusing phrases, and it was actually used on Dick
Speaker 2: Clark's bandstand. But back to the whole drink a bite
Speaker 2: to eat thing for a second. Oddly, that ad is
Speaker 2: the only time Doctor Pepper decided to use a doctor
Speaker 2: mascot to sell the brand. They supposedly wanted to use
Speaker 2: a picture of a typical country doctor, but the cartoon
Speaker 2: image is is of this guy with like this top
Speaker 2: hat and these glasses and a glass soda bottle. He
Speaker 2: kind of looks like like a human version of mister Peanut.
Speaker 2: And for some reason, under him there's a second slogan
Speaker 2: that reads join the club, which is a little more clear,
Speaker 2: like it's not very exciting, but just like you know
Speaker 2: what they mean by that.
Speaker 1: At least, I feel like they're so good at mixing
Speaker 1: wrong ingredients and so bad at mixing wrong words.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, Pepper the bite me so. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: really good stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not at all confusing. But one thing I
Speaker 1: hadn't realized is how important it's been to Doctor Pepper's
Speaker 1: growth that the drink is not a cola. So, as
Speaker 1: we've mentioned before here, Coca Cola and Pepsi were well
Speaker 1: ahead in the soda game right like. By the nineteen sixties,
Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper was in fifth place in the soda wars,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't even a competition. And that's partially because
Speaker 1: Pepsi and Coke had done a really clever thing. They'd
Speaker 1: each gone into markets to work with bottling companies and
Speaker 1: made them sign agreements that they had to be exclusive
Speaker 1: to their cola. But in nineteen sixty three, doctor Pepper
Speaker 1: got a federal court to rule that because no cola
Speaker 1: nut extract is in the drink, it is not actually
Speaker 1: a cola. And because of that loophole, they got bottlers
Speaker 1: around the nation to start making the drink for them.
Speaker 1: So now if you're a bottler, you can like bottle
Speaker 1: Pepsi and Doctor Pepper, or Coke and Doctor Pepper without
Speaker 1: any conflict of interest. And if you remember, that's basically
Speaker 1: the point at which Coca Cola decides to accelerate the
Speaker 1: development of their Mister pib concoction. It's basically so that
Speaker 1: they can offer these companies their own version of the
Speaker 1: drink and cut Doctor Pepper out. Anyway. According to the
Speaker 1: Motley Fool, the company went from doing about fifteen million
Speaker 1: dollars of sales annually to two hundred and twenty seven
Speaker 1: million dollars of sales in nineteen seventy seven, and it
Speaker 1: changed the company's perception of just being this regional drink.
Speaker 1: And actually, just to bring this poem for a second,
Speaker 1: when Dr Pepper entered the New York market in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy there was this Dallas born journalist named David de Vos,
Speaker 1: and he told Texas Monthly about how he entered a
Speaker 1: Manhattan delicatessen and he ordered a kosher salami on rye
Speaker 1: with a cold and sparkling Doctor Pepper. And it was
Speaker 1: this thing that it was unimaginable to him prior to that, right,
Speaker 1: like it was this taste of home. And as he
Speaker 1: wrote quote, it simply blew my mind. It was like
Speaker 1: the merging of two great cultures. Munching on a big
Speaker 1: kosher pickle and washing it down with my Doctor Pepper
Speaker 1: almost brought tears of joy. The two complimented each other
Speaker 1: like wine and cheese. Right, I guess means people have
Speaker 1: been pairing Doctor Pepper with pickles for a very long time.
Speaker 2: Now, apparently. So that is a great fact, and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be hard to top, but I think I have
Speaker 2: one that'll do it. Because Mango, I remember that when
Speaker 2: you were younger, you were a huge Guns n' Roses fan. Well, actually,
Speaker 2: I may have just made that up, but either way,
Speaker 2: it's a good fact. Did you know that Guns and
Speaker 2: Roses once sued Dr Pepper?
Speaker 1: No? But uh, but now I'm very curious.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you remember this, but Chinese
Speaker 2: Democracy was an album that came out in two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight, and it had taken forever to create.
Speaker 1: A Yeah, I remember, it was like one of the
Speaker 1: most expensive albums of all time, and they were always
Speaker 1: talking about when it was going to come out.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and Guns n' Ros's last original music
Speaker 2: before that had been the Use Your Illusion one and
Speaker 2: two albums from nineteen ninety one, and trying to get
Speaker 2: their new album, Chinese Democracy off the ground had just
Speaker 2: been this nightmare, of course, and apparently they'd recorded like
Speaker 2: over fifty tracks. Slash left the band, the guitarist Buckethead
Speaker 2: left the band, lots of others left the band, and
Speaker 2: tons of creative differences in all this drama. And to
Speaker 2: your point, Axel Rose, he'd spent like thirteen million dollars
Speaker 2: of David Geffen's money in the studio to that point.
Speaker 2: Then Dr Pepper for some reason stepped into the fray
Speaker 2: and offered a free Doctor Pepper to everyone in America
Speaker 2: except for Buckethead and Slash if the band just put
Speaker 2: out the album. The copy from the offer is incredible.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to read it here. It says we
Speaker 2: completely understand and empathize with Axel's request for perfection. We
Speaker 2: know once it's released people will refer to it as
Speaker 2: Doctor Pepper for the Ears because it will be such
Speaker 2: a refreshing blend of rich bold sounds, an instant classic.
Speaker 2: I just love this so weirdly. Axel Rose said that
Speaker 2: he appreciated the support, said he'd share his drink with
Speaker 2: Bucketheads since he played on the album, and then later
Speaker 2: announced that the album would be coming out some months
Speaker 2: later and Doctor Pepper kept their promise, which is all
Speaker 2: really cool, except the rollout was poorly executed. The details
Speaker 2: are too much to go through here, but trying to
Speaker 2: get free drinks to three hundred and five million Americans
Speaker 2: turns out to be easier said than done. And it's
Speaker 2: not clear whether Doctor Pepper actually believed that the album
Speaker 2: is going to come out as promised or not, since
Speaker 2: it had been like fourteen years in the making. Anyway,
Speaker 2: people were pissed. Axel's lawyers threatened a lawsuit and called
Speaker 2: the whole thing this unmitigated disaster, and they said, quote
Speaker 2: in the eyes of vocal fans, doctor Pepper ruined Chinese
Speaker 2: democracy's release. They also demanded full page apologies from doctor
Speaker 2: pepperin all the major newspapers at the time, from USA
Speaker 2: Today to Wall Street Journal to the New York Times.
Speaker 2: So it was a whole thing for a minute until
Speaker 2: Axelrose told his lawyers this isn't really an issue, and
Speaker 2: they dropped the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That is so good, crazy and I love the idea
Speaker 1: of Slash. Just like watching the whole thing go in flames,
Speaker 1: like with his feet up on his stool, smoking a cigarette,
Speaker 1: drinking at doctor Pepper. It just feels perfect. I think
Speaker 1: you definitely win this one.
Speaker 2: I'll take it. That's awesome. I appreciate that. And that's
Speaker 2: it for this week's episode. Thank you so much for listening,
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