WEBVTT - REPLAY: ‘I Will Be Heard'

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<v Speaker 1>On July fourth, eighteen twenty nine, a twenty three year

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<v Speaker 1>old Boston printer, an anti slavery activist named William Lloyd Garrison,

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<v Speaker 1>accepted an invitation to give a Fourth of July address

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<v Speaker 1>to the Park Street Church in Boston. The fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>white Congregationalists assembled in the large church were stunned by

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<v Speaker 1>what they heard. Garrison told them that Independence Day was

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<v Speaker 1>quote the worst and most disastrous day and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and sixty five He said he was ashamed

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<v Speaker 1>of his country and the distance between its ideals and

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<v Speaker 1>its practices. This is Bruce Laurie, a professor of history

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<v Speaker 1>emeritus at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. He makes

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<v Speaker 1>the argument that the key document in the US was

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<v Speaker 1>not the Constitutions, a declaration of independence. Garrison asked his

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<v Speaker 1>audience to imagine something how American slaves might make their

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<v Speaker 1>own declaration of independence from a tyrannical rule. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>adopted the exact cadence of Thomas Jefferson's original list of

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<v Speaker 1>grievances against King George the Third in the Declaration of Independence.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison read out his own list on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 1>American slave He bellowed quote, they have sold us in

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<v Speaker 1>their market places like cattle. They have lacerated our bodies

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<v Speaker 1>with whips. In a word, what that speech did is

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<v Speaker 1>he read African Americans into the Declaration of Independence for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. Garrison ended by asking the congregation to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine one more thing. Suppose he asked that the slave

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<v Speaker 1>should suddenly become white, would you keep quiet in the

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<v Speaker 1>face of their suffering? Then, answering his own question, Garrison roared, no,

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<v Speaker 1>your voice would peel like deep thunder. I'm an abolishicitionist,

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<v Speaker 1>high glory in the name. I'm Sean Braswell. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the thread. This season, we've traced the ore of an

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<v Speaker 1>idea that has shaken the foundations of power across the

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<v Speaker 1>world for almost two centuries now. It is the principle

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<v Speaker 1>of non violent resistance, the counterintuitive notion that the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to overcome your enemies is to love them. The

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<v Speaker 1>best way to counter their blows is to absorb them.

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<v Speaker 1>We began the season with Martin Luther King Jr. And

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<v Speaker 1>his path to non violence. We then pulled on a

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<v Speaker 1>thread that took us backwards through time to South Africa

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<v Speaker 1>and India and Russia. And now four episodes later, we

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<v Speaker 1>are back in the United States and the early eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds to learn about the American who inspired the non

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<v Speaker 1>violent approach of Leo Tolstoy, the Russian novelist we covered

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<v Speaker 1>in the last episode. If you're joining us for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, we encourage you to go back and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to episode one. I am anabolishist, then urged me not

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<v Speaker 1>to pause for joyfully I do in missed in freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>sacred cause, the world and a soldier for Martin Luther

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<v Speaker 1>King Jr. Liked to talk about a promissory note that

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<v Speaker 1>the American founders had written to all Americans and the

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<v Speaker 1>Declaration of Independence. Well in the early days of the

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<v Speaker 1>New Republic, and at a time when very few Americans

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<v Speaker 1>cared to pay attention to that promise, William Lloyd Garrison

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<v Speaker 1>waived that note in the streets and hollered about it

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of his lungs. Garrison's searing words and

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<v Speaker 1>non violent protestations against slavery, like the civil rights protests

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<v Speaker 1>King would lead across the South over one hundred years later,

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed the collar of America and forced it to look

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<v Speaker 1>at itself in the mirror. William Lloyd Garrison was born

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<v Speaker 1>in Newberry, Massachusetts, in eighteen o five. He came from

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<v Speaker 1>humble origins Bruce Laurie again. His father was a mariner,

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<v Speaker 1>his mother a housekeeper and a devout Baptist. He um

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<v Speaker 1>He had a common school education. Like most Massachusetts children,

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<v Speaker 1>uh never went on to higher education. Almost nobody did

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<v Speaker 1>in those days. Instead, um young young men, almost never

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<v Speaker 1>a young women were either sent to live with relatives,

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<v Speaker 1>to work on farms, or to um serve apprenticeships and

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<v Speaker 1>the skilled trades. Garrison became an apprentice printer. He later

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<v Speaker 1>referred to himself as a New England mechanic. He moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Boston in the late eighteen twenties. He met a

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<v Speaker 1>man named Benjamin Lundy who was a Quaker abolitionist, and

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<v Speaker 1>Lundy had a huge impact on him. Benjamin Lundy was

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<v Speaker 1>a harness maker who took up the printing trade just

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<v Speaker 1>so he could decry the evils of slavery. Lundie had

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<v Speaker 1>endured beatings, charges of libel and harsh public opinion. The

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<v Speaker 1>Quaker zeal And abolitionist views captivated Garrison, and the young

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<v Speaker 1>man began to write for Lundie's newspaper. Actually He served

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<v Speaker 1>two apprenticeships, if you think about it, one as a

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<v Speaker 1>printer and the other as an abolitionist. Lundie opened Garrison's

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<v Speaker 1>eyes to the evils of slavery. Garrison yearned to fight

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<v Speaker 1>the good fight and become an apostle of public virtue

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<v Speaker 1>like Lundie. Lundie was a Quaker, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Quaker position is, you don't need you don't need a

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<v Speaker 1>clergy to tell you the word of God. Every person

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<v Speaker 1>his is his or her own church, his or her

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<v Speaker 1>own own inner light. And you can see that as

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<v Speaker 1>the beginnings of Garrisonian non resistance. Garrison was a Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>but he challenged the Church just as he did all authorities,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were either with him or against him. Garrison

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<v Speaker 1>was convinced that abolitionists should be asking for nothing less

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<v Speaker 1>than a media and complete emancipation for all slaves, and

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<v Speaker 1>he dedicated himself to the cause entirely. He even said quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I should deserve to be a slave myself if I

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<v Speaker 1>shrunk from that duty or danger. Slavery was abolished in

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<v Speaker 1>the US on fifty years ago, and it's difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine what life was like in the eighteen twenties and

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<v Speaker 1>thirties and to appreciate the mindset of those times. It

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<v Speaker 1>was hard to find a national politician, even in the North,

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<v Speaker 1>who did not think that slavery should be left to

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<v Speaker 1>the individual states. Most American presidents had been slave owners.

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<v Speaker 1>Slavery was abolished by statute in many Northern states, but

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<v Speaker 1>a profound apathy towards the practice set in America's moral

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<v Speaker 1>indifference was deafening, and even among those opposed to slavery,

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<v Speaker 1>there was little appetite for granting African Americans equal rights.

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<v Speaker 1>The important thing about that abolitionist movement was it was

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<v Speaker 1>very qualified, ever conceded political rights to African Americans. Even

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<v Speaker 1>most abolitionists preached liberation without equality. Garrison changed all that.

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<v Speaker 1>With um knowledge he gained from local African Americans and

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<v Speaker 1>some nationally prominent African Americans, he combined equality with political rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison attributed the American public's apathy towards slavery and the

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<v Speaker 1>abolitionist movements aversion to racial equality to ignorance, and he

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<v Speaker 1>set out to enlighten as many minds and change as

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<v Speaker 1>many hearts as he could. He just needed a vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to have an oregan Yeah, you had to

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<v Speaker 1>have a newspaper, and so he launches his in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one. In a small office in Boston, the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five year old Garrison pieced together his new newspaper on

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<v Speaker 1>a large oak table in a room with ink splattered windows.

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<v Speaker 1>He slept on a palette on the floor and worked

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<v Speaker 1>odd jobs during the day so he could produce the

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper at night. The first issue You of the Liberator,

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<v Speaker 1>came off the press on New Year's Day eighteen thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison pledged in his paper quote, I will be as

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<v Speaker 1>harsh as truth and as uncompromising his justice. He promised

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<v Speaker 1>to rouse the apathetic in America with a trumpet call

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<v Speaker 1>that would resurrect the dead, and in large capital letters,

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<v Speaker 1>he proclaimed, I will be heard now. Thus began one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most remarkable ventures in American journalism. This is

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<v Speaker 1>historian and Garrison biographer Henry Mayer from a speech on

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<v Speaker 1>c SPAN he gave before his death in two thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>No American before Garrison had so dramatically challenged his government's

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<v Speaker 1>failure to realize its ideals. No citizen before Garrison at

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<v Speaker 1>staked the survival of a nation upon a spiritual revolution

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished by a minority, liberated from conventional politics and armed

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<v Speaker 1>only with a righteous conviction of truth. Garrison was a

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<v Speaker 1>wiry man with glasses who was going prematurely bald. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote many of the early columns and editorials himself, mixing

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<v Speaker 1>in poems, meeting reports, and harrowing accounts of slavery. The

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<v Speaker 1>Liberator described in detail the living conditions of slaves. It

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<v Speaker 1>printed regular reports of kidnappings, whippings, and murders of African Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>It gave a voice to those who previously had none.

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Laurie, the most important thing about The Liberator is

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<v Speaker 1>that it had a letter's page. The Liberator collects letters

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<v Speaker 1>and commentaries from all kinds of people, and so students

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<v Speaker 1>of abolitionism who want to hear the voice of more

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<v Speaker 1>obscure people need to consult The Liberator. Garrison attacked not

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<v Speaker 1>just slavery, but racial prejudice for at large. He advocated

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<v Speaker 1>for the immediate unconditional release of all two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half million slaves in America and to improve the living

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<v Speaker 1>conditions of all Africa in Americans. His newspaper routinely proclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>the principles that Garrison was willing to fight for, but

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<v Speaker 1>he still had to figure out what the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>that fight might be. Garrison really had not much to

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<v Speaker 1>say about violence early on in his career, but several

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<v Speaker 1>things happened to change his mind. Perhaps the most important

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<v Speaker 1>was a near death experience with a Boston mob in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty five. It was October. Local women were gathered

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<v Speaker 1>for a meeting of the Boston Female Anti Slavery Society.

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<v Speaker 1>A crowd of angry pro slavery protesters gathered outside. Police

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<v Speaker 1>escorted the women from the building for their safety. Garrison

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<v Speaker 1>and a few other male organizers were left behind. The

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<v Speaker 1>mob soon learned the outspoken Garrison was in the building,

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<v Speaker 1>they chanted out with him. Garrison escaped into a back

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<v Speaker 1>alleyway with a colleague and ducked into a carpenter's workshop

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid the crowd, but they found him. They wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>a rope three times around his chest and then marched

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<v Speaker 1>him into the street like an animal on a leash.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang him, someone yelled. The mob tore his clothes, broke

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<v Speaker 1>his glasses, and dragged him through the streets while they

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<v Speaker 1>debated whether to hang the abolitionist or tar and feather him.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, the police intervened and shoot away the mob,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was his life was saved. The mayor of

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<v Speaker 1>Boston was forced to put him in jail for his

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<v Speaker 1>own protection. Garrison was shaken by the experience, but it

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<v Speaker 1>also stirred in awakening within him that made a huge

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<v Speaker 1>impression on him. Needless to add, was sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>one of those terminal moments in his life that that

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<v Speaker 1>I think turned him to a non violent resistor. Garrison's

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<v Speaker 1>firsthand experience of the mob's brutality opened his eyes even

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<v Speaker 1>further to the violence that lurked all around him in

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<v Speaker 1>American society, and he landed upon a new method for

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<v Speaker 1>combating that violence, one grounded in the Christian injunction to

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<v Speaker 1>resists not evil. What had in mind is for anti

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<v Speaker 1>slave people to resist violence of any kind, not to

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<v Speaker 1>engage in violence. Violence begot violence. Garrison became convinced of

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<v Speaker 1>the powerful relationship between abolitionism and pacifism. He realized that

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<v Speaker 1>abolitionists could not just publish protestations against slavery. They had

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<v Speaker 1>to refuse to cooperate with the system that perpetuated it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he becomes an advocate of what he called non resistance,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the doctrine of non resistance that is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the cornerstones of the abolitionist movement in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>He really does invent nonresistance out of whole cloth. Like Gandhi,

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison found that he had the courage to face the mob,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he redoubled his efforts to provoke them. Garrison realized,

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<v Speaker 1>as doctor King later did in Birmingham, that you had

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<v Speaker 1>to make injustice palpable to the public. You had to

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<v Speaker 1>make it vivid and real, and so, even without the

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<v Speaker 1>medium of television to serve as a megaphone, Garrison set

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<v Speaker 1>out to make Americans ashamed of their connection to slavery

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty years before the Civil War. Garrison kindled a

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<v Speaker 1>fire of outrage that would slowly spread across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>William Lloyd Garrison was a man ahead of his times.

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<v Speaker 1>The philosopher Henry David Threau first published his famous essay

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<v Speaker 1>on civil disobedience in eighteen forty nine. He argued that

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<v Speaker 1>individuals have a duty not to cooperate with unjust governments.

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<v Speaker 1>It is required reading in most American high schools today.

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<v Speaker 1>But William Lloyd Garrison preached and pursued civil disobedience for

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<v Speaker 1>more than a decade before Thorreau's famous work appeared. In

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty eight, Garrison established the New England Non Resistance Society.

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<v Speaker 1>The group adopted a declaration that is likely the first

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<v Speaker 1>formal commitment to non violent resistance in history. The members

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<v Speaker 1>of the society vowed that they would not serve in

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<v Speaker 1>the military, that they would not even vote for public

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<v Speaker 1>official whose authority derived from physical force. The declaration, written

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<v Speaker 1>by Garrison condemned the use of violence in war, for

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty and even in self defense. Bruce Laurie,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very, very powerful. Some people think it's the most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful thing ever said on non violence. It's quite starring.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he talks about the evils of violence, how

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<v Speaker 1>violence begets violence, and the importance of non violence as

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian doctrine. When the Russian writer Leo Tolstoy first

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<v Speaker 1>heard about Garrison's Non Resistant Society and its declaration more

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<v Speaker 1>than fifty years later, he said that he experienced a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual joy. Tolstoy said that Garrison would be remembered as

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<v Speaker 1>one of the quote great reformers of true human progress. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, Garrison remained a lone voice in the wilderness,

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<v Speaker 1>which suited the crusading abolitionists just fine. Garrison may have

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<v Speaker 1>thought of himself as a latter day Jesus right, a

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<v Speaker 1>man basically without a church, someone who uh moves in

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<v Speaker 1>and and and and and calls for peace among the

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<v Speaker 1>tribes and a higher order of morality. Garrison traveled the country,

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<v Speaker 1>giving lectures like a revival preacher, even at black churches.

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<v Speaker 1>His vivid, lurid depictions of the lives of American slaves

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<v Speaker 1>impressed the details of human bondage into the minds of

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<v Speaker 1>his audience. Once a good friend told Garrison that he

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<v Speaker 1>should take it easy, that he was quote all on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison took him by the shoulder and replied, I have

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<v Speaker 1>need to be all on fire. I have mountains of

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<v Speaker 1>ice about me to melt. Garrison could also be as

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<v Speaker 1>harsh as he was uncompromising. He could be um, extremely egocentric,

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<v Speaker 1>and difficult to deal with. He was a vicious correspondent

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<v Speaker 1>if um. If he did not like you, or he

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<v Speaker 1>disagreed with you, he would call you every name in

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<v Speaker 1>the book uh short of swearing so um. As a writer,

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<v Speaker 1>he was uncompromising, hectoring, disrespectful. He was sort of an extremist,

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<v Speaker 1>but with his wife and children. He was about as

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<v Speaker 1>extreme as a big puppy dog. In his private life,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the direct opposite. He was a loving husband

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<v Speaker 1>and father. His daughter liked to warm her hands on

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<v Speaker 1>his bald head in winter. Garrison would joke that at

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<v Speaker 1>least a hot blooded fanatic was good for something. He's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a contradiction, provably tender, publicly impossible. And part

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<v Speaker 1>of being publicly impossible was Garrison's insistence that the issue

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<v Speaker 1>of slavery could not be resolved to the usual channels.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison believed in what he called moral suasion. He believed

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<v Speaker 1>that the argument should be taken directly to the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Politics as usual was not an option. But really the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirties, Garrison argues, politicians are corrupt. Most people really

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<v Speaker 1>don't care much about politics. You couldn't rely on politicians

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<v Speaker 1>to get your work done for you because they were

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<v Speaker 1>distracted by other issues and triss So he developed this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that the most effective way of agitating for slavery

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<v Speaker 1>is outside of politics. The key to this where the

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<v Speaker 1>anti slavery societies that started to spring up around the

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<v Speaker 1>country during the eighteen thirties. By eighteen forty, over two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand Americans, including some Southerners, belonged to abolitionist societies.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison had his own movement. Like Tolstoy, Gandhi, Rustin, and King,

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison realized that non resistance did not mean retreat. It

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<v Speaker 1>meant courting conflict, extracting violence from society so as to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it fully into public view. It was not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>One big obstacle facing the anti slavery movement, including Garrison's newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>The Liberator, was the American government itself. By eighteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven and thirty eight, the The Liberator was banned in

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<v Speaker 1>most Southern states, and also President Jackson prohibited it from

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<v Speaker 1>being mailed, so they shut down the U. S. Mails

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<v Speaker 1>and finally, from eighteen thirty seven until the early eighteen forties,

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<v Speaker 1>Congress refused to debate the question of slavery. This forced

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison and his fellow abolitionists to get creative. The Abolitionists

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<v Speaker 1>were the first American activists to figure out what publicity is.

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<v Speaker 1>What the Garrisonians did was they figured out that if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have people involved in the movement, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to give them something to do, even the most

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly trivial things to do in order to give the

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<v Speaker 1>movement publicity, so they launched things like called fancy fairs.

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<v Speaker 1>They would set up on the town common and sell

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<v Speaker 1>things to people with with abolitionists labels on them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they also gave people things to sign. Abolitionists would would

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<v Speaker 1>go around in communities with these petitions printed in advance

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<v Speaker 1>with lines on it so you could enter your name, pishing,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, to have Congress debate slavery, petitioning against the

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<v Speaker 1>War with Mexico, petition against enforcement of the Fugitive Slave Act.

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<v Speaker 1>The abolitionists also filled the mail with newspapers, declarations, and

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<v Speaker 1>propaganda sheets. By eighteen thirty seven and thirty eight, they

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<v Speaker 1>had produced over a million pieces of mail, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of the petitioning and the mail, the movement

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<v Speaker 1>looked a lot bigger than it was. In fact, some

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<v Speaker 1>Northerners thought that all Yankees were abolitionists, largely on a

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<v Speaker 1>basis of abolitionist propaganda, the abolitionists were very effective for

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<v Speaker 1>a relatively small activist community. By the eighteen fifties, they

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<v Speaker 1>succeeded at shaping the terms of a nationwide debate about

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<v Speaker 1>the practice of slavery. Garrison caught in America's attention in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that no agitator before ever had. Still, as

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<v Speaker 1>the nation grappled with its most violent institution, it became

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<v Speaker 1>clear to many that nonviolent resistance was not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be enough to free America's slaves. Up next, we look

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<v Speaker 1>at how the American Civil War vindicated and decimated Lilliam

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<v Speaker 1>Lloyd Garrison's life work. At age twenty three, William Lloyd

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison wrote racial equality into the Declaration of Independence at

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<v Speaker 1>the Park Street Church in Boston, and throughout his career,

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<v Speaker 1>the firebrand continued to create spectacles with his words and deeds. Sometimes, however,

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<v Speaker 1>he overplayed his hand At a famous rally, He once

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<v Speaker 1>put a match to the Futuitive Slave Act and the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution and abolitionists. Political abolitionists really didn't like that. They

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was sort of counterproductive because most Americans thought

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<v Speaker 1>of the Constitution as a sacred document. That's right, Garrison

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<v Speaker 1>set fire to a copy of the Constitution in public.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison also continued to preach non violent resistance as the

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<v Speaker 1>means for accomplishing abolition, even as the growing rhetoric between

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<v Speaker 1>North and South made such a means very unlikely. As

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen fifties wears on. More and more abolitionists in

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison's camp decide, look, we've got to compromise on two things.

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<v Speaker 1>One is on non resistance. It's not working right than

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<v Speaker 1>the other's politics. What happens is more and more abolitionists,

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<v Speaker 1>except for the hardline Garrisonians, endorsed Abraham Lincoln, and more

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<v Speaker 1>and more of them endorsed the idea that it will

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<v Speaker 1>take violence to end slavery. Garrison could not be persuaded.

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<v Speaker 1>He continued to argue for the power of moral suasion,

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<v Speaker 1>the need to convince a critical mass of Americans that

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<v Speaker 1>slavery was untenable, and he did so even as many

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<v Speaker 1>of his former followers, including the slave turned social reformer

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick Douglas, abandoned him in the years before the Civil War.

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<v Speaker 1>People like Frederick Douglas argued that moral suasion is a

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<v Speaker 1>very limited form. You can't reach enough people, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>and second, it's not gonna end slavery because slavery was

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<v Speaker 1>created by politics, the Constitution, for instance, and we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to end through politics or through violence. And so Garrison

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<v Speaker 1>is really abandoned on the platform of moral suasion and

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<v Speaker 1>non resistance. The weight of the movement is running against him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet Garrison was steadfast. Of course, he was wrong. It

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<v Speaker 1>took violence to end slavery, a lot of it. The

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<v Speaker 1>ending of slavery through violent warfare was a bitter irony

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<v Speaker 1>for Garrison. He ended up reluctantly supporting the war, sacrificing

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<v Speaker 1>one set of his principles in order to pursue another.

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<v Speaker 1>And while the war took its toll on the pacifist

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<v Speaker 1>the result was what he had been fighting to achieve

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<v Speaker 1>for decades. Indeed, just after the war ended, thirty years

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<v Speaker 1>after he was attacked by a mob in Boston, Garrison

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<v Speaker 1>was raised affectionately by crowds of liberated blacks in the

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<v Speaker 1>streets of Charleston, South Carolina. He becomes a huge figure

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<v Speaker 1>when he goes there in eighteen six, right after the war,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's he's really celebrated like a hero. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like a Roman triumph of adoration um and

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<v Speaker 1>really wild, wild respect. But the Civil War also destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>the non violent movement that Garrison so carefully built. One

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<v Speaker 1>month after the Civil War ended, the abolitionist declared his

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<v Speaker 1>life's work at an end. In eighteen six, Garrison announces

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<v Speaker 1>that um there's no there's nothing more for abolitionists to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That their goal all along was simply to liberate the slaves,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he collapsed as a liberator and argues that

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<v Speaker 1>the Americans Anti slavery society should close its doors. But

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<v Speaker 1>other leaders, including Frederick Douglas, voted down that resolution. African

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<v Speaker 1>Americans could not yet vote, and we're still not. It

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<v Speaker 1>took another hundred years before leaders like Bayard Rustin and

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King were able to advance the causes of

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<v Speaker 1>freedom and racial equality further. In doing so, however, they

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<v Speaker 1>rediscovered the power of non violence with a big assist

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<v Speaker 1>from Gandhi and Tolstoy, and ensured that William Lloyd Garrison's

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<v Speaker 1>most revolutionary idea outlived its apparent demise during the Civil War.

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<v Speaker 1>Garrison died in eighteen seventy nine at age seventy three.

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<v Speaker 1>Black hands intertwined with white ones to carry his casket

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<v Speaker 1>at his funeral. During the memorial service, Frederick Duclas said,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the glory of this man that he could

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<v Speaker 1>stand alone with truth and calmly await the result Garrison

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<v Speaker 1>stood up for in America conceived an equal citizenship when

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<v Speaker 1>few others dared to. Bruce Laurie Garrison was about as

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<v Speaker 1>Sara going an egalitarian um as there is in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century, and like Martin Luther King, Garrison managed to

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<v Speaker 1>build a social movement grounded in thousands of individual acts

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<v Speaker 1>of non cooperation. He learned how to face the mob,

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<v Speaker 1>to stand up for justice, and how not to fight back.

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<v Speaker 1>He learned how to combine radical politics with love, and

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<v Speaker 1>how to provoke confrontation in order to grow awareness. He's

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<v Speaker 1>iconic in in passive resistance circles um and probably justly so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm unaware of any thinker he appealed to in order

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<v Speaker 1>to develop this strategy. He really is an original thinker

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<v Speaker 1>and a most powerfully influential figure in American history. Garrison's

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<v Speaker 1>own story, however, still depends on the hands of fate,

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<v Speaker 1>including some timely help at a key moment. Garrison's influential newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>The Liberator, might never have made it to its second

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<v Speaker 1>issue without the assistance of another largely forgotten figure from

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<v Speaker 1>American history. Next week, in the final episode of this season,

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<v Speaker 1>we complete our thread with the story of a remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>African American businessman whose generosity saved Garrison's newspaper and his

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionary idea, and in doing so, altered the course of history.

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<v Speaker 1>We also learned about the surprising trait that King Rustin

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<v Speaker 1>Gandhi and other non violent figures share. I am an abolitionist,

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