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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined on this Friday morning by Pat fitz

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Speaker 1: Morris and by Derek Brown Fellas.

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Speaker 2: We are into week four.

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Speaker 1: We had Thursday Night Football last night. Milak Neighbors tweeting

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Speaker 1: earlier today that he seems to be okay, obviously suffers

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Speaker 1: a concussion. Not what you want to see from a

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Speaker 1: guy who is unsurprisingly really taking the league by storm.

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb having a good game. Not much else going

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Speaker 1: on throughout that way. Deever, any takeaways from Thursday Night

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Speaker 1: Football this week.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're talking about a little bit of Dynasty stuff

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Speaker 3: before we turn on the mics. You remember when it

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Speaker 3: was controversial to call him Lak Neighbors the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: one of this class. I remember that kind of crazy. Huh.

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Speaker 3: He's straight baller and he's one of the best wide

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Speaker 3: receivers in the NFL already.

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Speaker 1: He looks amazing. I think he like, where would you

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Speaker 1: recommit Dynasty? I guess that's a good question.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually updating my Dynasty ranks right now, and I've

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Speaker 3: got him. I want to say I have him top

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Speaker 3: five amongst what. Yeah, I've got him wide receiver five

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Speaker 3: right now, right behind Jefferson, Ceedy Lamb, Chase and Amana

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Speaker 1: I feel like the first three you can't even really

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Speaker 1: have a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe by the end of the season it'll be different,

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Speaker 1: But the first three, I think Chase, you know, Jefferson,

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Speaker 1: Lamb in some order is kind of non negotiable.

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Speaker 2: I think four is where you can start at least.

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Speaker 3: Right Yeah, agreed, I.

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Speaker 4: Think we can. We can negotiate with Chase and neighbors.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm willing to engage in that negotiation. I

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Speaker 4: think that's a close call.

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Speaker 1: Well fits And if everybody listening, are going to be

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Speaker 1: doing a Dynasty show next week on Tuesday, We're actually

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Speaker 1: gonna be going live on Discord stages and we're going

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Speaker 1: to be doing half. That's going to be a show

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Speaker 1: of the two of us kind of updating on trade

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Speaker 1: values in Dynasty, and the half is going to be

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Speaker 1: actually taking your question. So if you want to discuss

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Speaker 1: that and actually pose that question to us and talk

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Speaker 1: it out on that stage, just be sure to check

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Speaker 1: that out. I believe that's at five pm Eastern next Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be trying doing that at the start

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Speaker 1: of every month in season. But yeah, I mean, Neighbors

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Speaker 1: sure looks darn good, and well, I might disagree that

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Speaker 1: there's a conversation at three. I don't think you're totally

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Speaker 1: insane for saying that he's looked awesome.

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Speaker 2: Lamb.

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Speaker 1: Of course seven yard seven catches give me ninety eight

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Speaker 1: yards and a touchdowns that he was good as well

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Speaker 1: if it's any other takeaways from that one last night.

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Speaker 4: So Daniel Jones is at least functional. And I know

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones gets a lot of grief, but like when

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Speaker 4: they're really bad quarterback situations in the NFL, like what

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Speaker 4: we're seeing with the Dolphins post to what we saw

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Speaker 4: out of the Panthers before they made the quarterback change

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Speaker 4: from Bryce ing Andy Dalton, Like you just want a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I know Daniel Jones is not taking the Giants to

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Speaker 5: the Promised Land.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 4: He at least can keep Malik Neighbors a valuable fantasy asset.

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Speaker 4: Devin Singletary rough game last night, but he's been a

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Speaker 4: valuable asset. Even Wandel Robinson is giving us fantasy value

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Speaker 4: this year. So at least respect that Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 4: a functional driver of an offense if not the quarterback

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Speaker 4: we hoped he'd be coming out of Duke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the target breakdown of this game is ridiculous, by

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Speaker 1: the way, like Milik Naghbor's fifteen targets, Wydell Robinson fourteen

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Speaker 1: he had eleven catches and seventy one yards. Dero, what

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Speaker 1: did you think watching him?

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Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about him on the Waiver War Show.

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Speaker 3: I'll put him inside of my top five ads of

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Speaker 3: the week, and I mean it just really you look

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Speaker 3: in this offense. He is the clear wide receiver two

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Speaker 3: and just a PPR machine. Any weeks. If he keeps

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Speaker 3: getting this type of volume, any weeks he gets a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: he's going to be a top twenty four wide receiver

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Speaker 3: and we probably should be ranking him if this continues

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Speaker 3: as a consistent wide receiver three weekly. Boys, like, am

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Speaker 3: I wrong with that?

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Speaker 2: What do you think fits?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's just very little touchdown potential, very little

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Speaker 4: big play potential. But he is a PPR asset without question,

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Speaker 4: So I mean he's probably going to be more like

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Speaker 4: a fringey wide receiver three for me in the rankings

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Speaker 4: most weeks if we're ranking in half PPR. But like

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Speaker 4: there is a steadiness there that people are going to

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Speaker 4: appreciate if they have them, if they have Wandell on

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Speaker 4: their rosters when the bye week's hit starting in week five.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I can't remember the exact numbers. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to find them on Twitter right now, and I

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Speaker 1: can't recall the tweet I saw last night, but it

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Speaker 1: was something I believe. The threshold was thirty catches, three

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Speaker 1: hundred yards and three touchdowns. Neighbors is the only rookie

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Speaker 1: receiver to do that in his first few games. Ever,

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Speaker 1: like there are other people like Puka had more receptions

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Speaker 1: but to do all three catches, yards and touchdowns again,

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Speaker 1: I think those are the thresholds. Thirty three hundred and

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Speaker 1: three Neighbors is the only one. So just to kind

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Speaker 1: of put a poll on that, dude is awesome. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, this is our Friday show, We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: running through our biggest questions of the weekend slate. Quick

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Speaker 1: reminder for everyone that all of our Week four consensus

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Speaker 1: we jump into the first question, let's check in with

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Speaker 1: Colin Coward and talk about it is Fantasy Over Under

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Speaker 1: picks for Week four time now for the Week four

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Speaker 1: Over Under Challenge. As always, this segment is presented by

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Speaker 1: DraftKings and also as always, I am joined by Colin

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Speaker 1: Coward to talk through some of our favorite.

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Speaker 2: Player picks for this week's slate.

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Speaker 6: By the way, while we did take a slight step

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Speaker 6: back last week, Colin is still hitting well above fifty

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Speaker 6: up to Ericson and that ridiculous record. Absolutely had to

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Speaker 6: everybody listening can play along with our over under challenge

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Speaker 6: dot com Slash Challenge. All right, Colin, let's start, as

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Speaker 6: always with the quarterbacks, and we'll start with Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 6: at Tampa Bay. Over twenty fantasy points per game on

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Speaker 6: DraftKings so far this season. That's second best amongst fantasy quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: He's going up against the twenty eighth ranked defense on

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Speaker 6: DraftKings in Tampa Bay. But there's also question marks surrounding

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Speaker 6: the health of Hurtz's pass catchers. Do you think he

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Speaker 7: I don't he's missing Devonte Smith and aj Brown at

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Speaker 7: least they're not practicing. This is also a team that

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Speaker 7: has high end tight ends in Sakuon Barkley. I tend

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Speaker 7: to think this is a game. They're a bit beat up.

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Speaker 7: They want to go to the ground, eat the clock,

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Speaker 7: good teams do when they're banged up. San Francisco the

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Speaker 7: same thing. You want to get it. San Francisco had

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Speaker 7: get out. No special teams blunders. I think they control

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Speaker 7: the ball on the ground. That's my takeaway on that.

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Speaker 1: The other quarterback I want to highlight is Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: going up against Washington. Kyler is just under twenty fantasy

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Speaker 1: points per game on DraftKings this season, number four amongst

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Speaker 1: the rankings. This Washington pass defense is porous. It has

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Speaker 1: been shredded all season long. Are you expecting a big

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Speaker 1: question marks as well with the concussion.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, McBride's great. I think he goes off Washington on

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Speaker 7: a short week. They can do all the tricks they

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Speaker 7: want With Dan Quinn. This is a personnel issue. On

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Speaker 7: the back end. I wouldn't be surprised if they're in

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Speaker 7: the playoff hunt. If they don't make a move at

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Speaker 7: the trade deadline. They need some real help back there.

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Speaker 7: And I mean Detroit's a better team ball controlled Kyler,

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Speaker 7: So as numbers come down, that's not what we're looking

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Speaker 7: very big Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Let's actually stick with this game as we move into

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers because Marvin Harrison Junior is also in

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Speaker 1: this week's challenge, so kind of along those same lines,

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Speaker 1: going against that same very terrible pass defense. He's averaging

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Speaker 1: twenty four point seven fantasy points per game at home

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Speaker 1: Do you think he has an explosive game?

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Speaker 7: I absolutely do. Again, often rookie players are better in comfort.

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Speaker 7: A quarterback with time to throw, a wide receiver playing

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Speaker 7: at home, a weaker secondary. I think he's a matchup

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Speaker 7: issue that can be somewhat slowed against better secondaries. He's

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Speaker 7: gonna eat. I think he's gonna have a big, big performance.

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Speaker 1: When thinking about Harrison having a big performance. Are you

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Speaker 1: worried that without McBride, if McBride is out do the

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Speaker 1: concussion protocol, that Harrison just gets all the defensive attention.

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Speaker 7: No, because I think they have an excellent run game.

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Speaker 7: I also think Kyler Murray presents certain problems where you

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Speaker 7: have to put a spy on him, which changes your personnel.

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Speaker 7: And also Arizona's done a pretty good job this year.

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Speaker 7: Just scheme up Harrison. Harrison's not a burner, He's not

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Speaker 7: an over the top guy. There's so much Cover two

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Speaker 7: stuff now nobody's getting the cheap stuff. So I just

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Speaker 7: think this is an offense that's flexible, that moves, that

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Speaker 7: more time as Kyler Murray evades a rush. So I

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Speaker 7: think Kyler and Harrison have a big Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The other receiver that I wanted to highlight Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: going up against the Panthers. He of course, just faced

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Speaker 1: this Washington defense in Week three in that very exciting

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Speaker 1: Monday night game. He had thirty two point eight Fantasy

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Speaker 1: points on DraftKings in that game, just seventeen and a

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Speaker 1: half on the season. Kind of a fringe top ten

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Speaker 1: fantasy receiver so far. Do you think that Week three

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Speaker 1: breakout was more about this terrible Commander's defense that we

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Speaker 1: keep shredding, or was it Chase kind of fully shaken

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the latter. I think Jamar has a good Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Might not have thought this one was going to be

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I again, you're heavily favored off a disappointing loss.

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Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with a tight end here. Kyle Pitts

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Speaker 2: That helps you in.

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Speaker 1: Your same game parlay on DraftKings Colin Ken Pitts help

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Speaker 7: No, Atlanta's offensive line is beat up. Pitts is not

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Speaker 7: not really a blocker. He's kind of a finesse tight

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Speaker 7: teams that play Kirk Cousins are going to have a

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Speaker 7: When Atlanta's O line was healthy, it's one of the

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Speaker 1: Remember to head to fantasypros dot Com. Slash challenge to

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Speaker 1: play along all season long. Colin, We're gunning for that

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Speaker 1: twenty four and five record Ericson's got thanks again for joining.

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Speaker 7: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start off with Bengals at Panthers, an

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and what we saw out of Week three

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Speaker 2: Dee Bra start with you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's the improvement of the offense is not

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Speaker 3: But can he keep it rolling versus the Bengals? Maybe so,

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Speaker 3: I mean, their past defense hasn't been tested as much

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Speaker 3: look at all the other metrics like twelveth highest yards

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Speaker 3: Can Dalton do it this week? Yes? But can he

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Speaker 3: We shall see.

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Speaker 1: This week though, that Bengals defense not good at all.

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Speaker 1: But both for this week where I think we're all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're not expecting four hundred and thirty seven

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Speaker 4: As Debro was mentioning the matchup thing, and this week

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Speaker 1: With Dalton a quarterback, the other name I wanted to

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. I mean you go from an offense that

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna push back on the Jonathan Brooks

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Speaker 4: I just I don't think people should be looking at

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Speaker 3: Like the Panthers, Juba keeps the role.

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Speaker 4: The Panthers, I don't know if he keeps the role,

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Speaker 1: The other thing along this line, two, Debro is like

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Speaker 1: But maybe it's a good point by Fits to at

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Speaker 3: That, why you would play Schuba Hubbard, who is gone

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Speaker 3: the only thing.

438
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's gonna be good to go, but he

439
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Speaker 4: is coming off a major knee surgery. Like I don't know,

440
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Speaker 4: it's just it doesn't seem like they are going to

441
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Speaker 4: immediately start giving him twenty touches. I'm just thinking that's

442
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Speaker 4: kind of a leap of faith people are making. I mean,

443
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Speaker 4: I know one user on Discord just ask me whether

444
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Speaker 4: he should trade Christian McCaffrey for Jonathan Brooks.

445
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Speaker 3: Oh, well, I agree with you there, Like that's that's

446
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 3: too much.

447
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean, like why would you, right McCaffrey

448
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 4: is a definitive answer, even if he has kind of

449
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 4: a slow ramp up upon his return. Eventually, like for

450
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: the most important games of the season, he is going

451
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 4: to be a guy you want in your lineup, and

452
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 4: Jonathan Brooks is a great unknown, And I just think

453
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 4: the ceiling is maybe less not quite as high as

454
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Speaker 4: some people think it might be.

455
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't disagree, Like I don't think

456
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Speaker 3: he gets like bell cow usage down the stretch, but

457
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Speaker 3: like sixty sixty of the work, Yeah, I could see that.

458
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Speaker 1: I actually don't think that's as crazy of a question

459
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Speaker 1: post to you. If itit's I wouldn't do it, Like

460
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Speaker 1: I'd prefer the McCaffrey side, But I like, I just

461
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Speaker 1: don't want to have any McCaffrey.

462
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Speaker 2: I'm like very nervous, sick.

463
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Speaker 5: I understand.

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, I understand, And you know, having McCaffrey

465
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Speaker 4: it's just kind of a headache on your roster right now.

466
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Speaker 4: But still the potential upside versus like we're talking about

467
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Speaker 4: two guys who aren't playing right now, and are you're

468
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 4: hoping for value down the road. I would much rather

469
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Speaker 4: bet on value out of Christian McCaffrey down the road

470
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Speaker 4: than the totally unproven coming off a major knee injury

471
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Speaker 4: Jonathan Brooks.

472
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Speaker 2: Let's go away to frame it. Let's go to question

473
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Speaker 2: number two here, Vikings at Packers. My question here.

474
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Speaker 1: Almost regardless of whether or not Jordan Loves back started,

475
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Speaker 1: let's say even if he is, which in you know,

476
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: a vacuum is ideal scenario for the Packers.

477
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: How much do we trust this.

478
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Speaker 1: Green Bay offense going up against a Brian floor has

479
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 1: led Vikings defense that has shut down some pretty good

480
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Speaker 1: offenses so far this season.

481
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Speaker 2: Fits, I'll start with you here.

482
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm dialing down expectations. I think for the green

483
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 4: Bay passing game, I bet the under on passing yards

484
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 4: for Jordan Lave at two forty one point five. So yeah,

485
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 4: I just I think that Matt Lafleora will want to

486
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 4: run the ball to keep Jordan Love from being overexposed

487
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 4: to a very dangerous Vikings pass rush. Since Brian Flora

488
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Speaker 4: is the Minnesota defensive coronarty, he brings pressure from unexpected

489
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 4: places like you never know who's coming in the pass

490
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Speaker 4: rush when you're going up against Minnesota, and that's a

491
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 4: tough situation for a quarterback who might have compromised mobility

492
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Speaker 4: coming off this knee injury. So I think Josh Jacobs

493
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: is a really good bet for fantasy this week. But

494
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Speaker 4: I'm kind of tep it on all the other Packers

495
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Speaker 4: except maybe Jaden Reid, who, in seventeen regular season games

496
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 4: with Jordan Love has twelve touchdowns.

497
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Speaker 1: Do you think fits and as of right now, correct

498
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. I haven't seen like any kind

499
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: of official like he's definitely going to be back or

500
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Speaker 1: definitely going to be out this week. Do you, like,

501
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: as a Packers fan, do you want him to play

502
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: this week? On the one hand, it's like, Okay, you're

503
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: going up against a division rival that's three and zero.

504
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: It's an important game early in this season. On the

505
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: other hand, given the way this defense plays, I almost

506
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: wouldn't want my compromised franchise quarterback. I just give him

507
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: another week and if we lose, we lose. But like,

508
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: let's not risk him getting blitzed to death and getting

509
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: hurt even worse. I mean, do you think that they're

510
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: going to like, what would you do? I guess see,

511
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: would you bring him back given the defense they're facing?

512
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if I boy, Like, that's hard question

513
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 4: to answer not knowing what his medical status is. You know,

514
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 4: I'd obviously want all that information, But right now my

515
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 4: stance is basically that, yes, I'm hoping Jordan Love plays,

516
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: but I will not be totally disappointed if it's Malik Willis.

517
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Speaker 2: Deber, what are you doing with this offense?

518
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: Again, regardless of whether or not Jordan Love is playing,

519
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: considering the defense they're going up against, Well, I.

520
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Speaker 3: Just tailed Pat and bet the under on passing arts

521
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: of the You know how much that tells you, But

522
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: I think it's a sharp bet. But looking at I mean,

523
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna echo a lot with Pat said one.

524
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Speaker 3: I do think Jordan Love starts this week. I think

525
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: he was close to playing, but I never actually thought

526
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Speaker 3: he was going to play last week, as much as

527
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Speaker 3: the media tried to push that, I think I thought

528
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: it was smoking mirrors. I think he does play. I

529
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 3: think he's probably functional enough to play. And Lafloor, I mean,

530
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Speaker 3: if you could scheme things around Malik Willis would barely

531
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: know in the playbook because he was barely on the

532
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: team long enough to digest the playbook, then I think

533
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: there shouldn't be a problem scheming stuff up for Jordan

534
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 3: Love get the ball out of his hands, real quiet,

535
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: real fast, and you know, lean on the running game,

536
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Speaker 3: and I'll echo with FITZI said, like, if if I

537
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: got to pick any Packers wide receiver to believe in,

538
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: it's going to be Jayden Reid. And a lot of

539
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: this comes to the coverage matchup. Minnesota has the highest

540
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: too high rate in the NFL. You look at last year,

541
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Speaker 3: because green Bay hasn't faced a lot of too high

542
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Speaker 3: this year, the lowest rate in the NFL so far,

543
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Speaker 3: So you got to look back to more of last

544
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Speaker 3: year to get any kind of sample size. But I mean,

545
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: Jayden Reid was their guy against too high twenty five

546
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: percent target per route run rates second in yards per

547
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: route run and Byron Murphy has been a turnstile in

548
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: the slot. So I think if you're looking at coverage matchup,

549
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: you're looking at corner matchup and things like that as well.

550
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 3: As we could see more of the pop pass stuff,

551
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 3: more of the reverses, more of the Jade Red doing

552
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: the you know, Dary Belt, Deebo Samuel kind of stuff

553
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: this week to take some of the volume away from

554
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: Jacob's and make things a little bit easier for Jordan Love.

555
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 5: Dairy Bell tiboh, I love that to you, bro, It's fantastic.

556
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm trying to be sensitive for

557
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 3: those that are lactose in tolerant out there, but you know,

558
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: still think it fits.

559
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: By the way, Jordan Love.

560
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Speaker 1: So if you go to we have actually this brand

561
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: new tool we dropped this week with Fantasy Pros called

562
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: the are They Playing Tool? And it uses some AI

563
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: and is some kind of past data to kind of

564
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: put it together an all encompassing estimate on guys and

565
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: whether or not they're gonna have a chance to play.

566
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: It gets more accurate throughout the week as we get

567
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: more and more practice data. So as we sit here

568
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: on Friday morning, through all the Thursday practice information, Jordan Love,

569
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Speaker 1: according to this new tool, is being given an eighty

570
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: percent chance to play this week. So that is that

571
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: is actually even higher than I expected to see it.

572
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: So it seems like there's a reasonable chance to expect

573
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: he might be back out there, even if still somewhat limited.

574
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: So that will be nice just to see him back

575
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Speaker 1: on the field for sure. Let's go to a question three.

576
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: Jaguars at Texans are there any concerns for Houston or

577
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: do we expect a major get right game at home

578
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: against this terrible Jacksonville team.

579
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: De bro I think it's c J's Stroud week. I

580
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: mean when Ethan, our beautiful graphic artist designer wonderful man,

581
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: reached out to me and said, who do you want

582
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 3: to be the poster person for the prime of this week,

583
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: and I was like, it's got to be c J. Stroud.

584
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: It's gonna be c J. Stroud or Nico Collins. I

585
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: think is the get right game. And speaking of I

586
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: mean when talking about that too, Tank Dell based off

587
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: of our are they playing tool twenty one percent chance

588
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: to play? He's dealing with a rib issue and stuff

589
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: like that, so I don't think he suits up. But again,

590
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: I don't think that it matters that much Stefan Diggs,

591
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: Nico Collins. As long as Nico is good to go,

592
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: then Stroud has all the weapons he needs to tear

593
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: apart this Jaguars secondary, which has been bad. And the

594
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: thing about the Houston offensive line, they've been allowing a

595
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: lot of pressure. Jacksonville's six lower some pressure. So CJ.

596
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: Stroud's gonna get clean pockets and then he's gonna be

597
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: able to tear apart a secondary that is bottom ten

598
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: in passing yards allowed per game, yards per attempt and cpoe.

599
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: So welcome to c J. Stroud Week. People, It's gonna

600
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: be pretty deebra.

601
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Speaker 1: Are you interested in anybody in the Texas backfield in

602
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: this one? I mean mixing you know, mispractice Wednesday and Thursday.

603
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: If we're expecting get a big game from the offense.

604
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: Is there anybody else that you're interested in? Or it's

605
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: only the passing game you want to be invested in?

606
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: This This has been a pass final defense. Jacksonville might

607
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: be bad at a lot of things offense, pass defense,

608
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: you know, all the really important things, but they are

609
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: good at stopping the run. So I'm not very high

610
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: on cam Akers. I don't think know Joe Mixon or

611
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: Damian Pierce play. I think you're probably gonna see a

612
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: lot considering I think they are going to go pass heavy.

613
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see a lot of Daria Gumbwale

614
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: or the people that are playing cam Akers want to

615
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 3: see this week. So now I mean count me out

616
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: of both the running.

617
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: Backs, Fitz, what do you expect out of the Texans

618
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: this weekend. And the one thing I will mention for

619
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: the Jags defensively is they got absolutely.

620
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: The blow doors blown off them in week three.

621
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Speaker 1: Of Course, the first two weeks they didn't give up

622
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: more than twenty points in a game, so it's not

623
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: like they're get there dropping. You know, teams are dropping

624
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: thirty five points on them right and left.

625
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: Now.

626
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: One of those is against de Seaan Watson, who's quite bad.

627
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: The other one was against the Dolphins when Toua was

628
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: still healthy. So I'm not saying that I believe in

629
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: this Jag Steve, but just trying to play Devil's advocate

630
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: a bit, like how much of this is just an

631
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: MVP level? Josh Allen torched them in primetime and like,

632
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: now we're just assuming they're so terrible, even though the

633
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: first couple of weeks they weren't that atrocious.

634
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: What do you think fits all?

635
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Speaker 5: Right?

636
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Speaker 4: First of all, Debro mentioned Ethan, one of the unsung

637
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 4: heroes here at Fantasy Pearls. Gotta gotta send a birthday

638
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: shout out to Ethan Yesthan today. Yeah, so Ethan's awesome. Yeah,

639
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 4: so I hear what you're saying, Worm, But still just

640
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: this is a past defense you want to attack, and

641
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: I think, as Debro said, maybe you're not that excited

642
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: about starting cam Akers against this pass funnel Jags defense.

643
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: But it does look like a great bounce back spot

644
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: for c J. Stroud and the fact that this target

645
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: tree has now been pruned because it looks like Tank

646
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: Dell is not going to play with wrist and ribs injuries,

647
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: so that means the targets are really going to be

648
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: concentrated toward Nico Collins and Stefan Diggs, and it looks

649
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: like a smash spot for both of those guys I've got.

650
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 4: I think Nico Collins rank like wide receiver six this

651
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: week and Digs, I think I've gotten my top twenty.

652
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And I want to note here Tua

653
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Speaker 3: did rip him up for three thirty eight and nine

654
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: point one yards per attempt in Week one, and if

655
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: because he's probably out there on a few waiver wires

656
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: right now, if you are hurting at tight end, this

657
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: could give a small bump to Dalton Schultz. Like I'm

658
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: not saying that I'm going to rank him as a

659
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Speaker 3: top twelve guy, but if you are struggling and he's

660
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: out on the waiver war, and you're like, I've got

661
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: a lot of bad options, Like maybe I'm still holding

662
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: onto hope for Isaiah Likely. Probably you probably need to

663
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: be starting to Dalton Schultzo.

664
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Speaker 1: I actually think this could be a decent Isaiah Likely week.

665
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: We'll get to that later in the show. Actually, we

666
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: talked about that a bit on the Thursday show with Eric.

667
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I prefer Andrews. Actually, oh, it's not well, we'll get

668
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: to it later. What I was going to say is

669
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: you said, if you're struggling at tight end, I promise

670
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: people listening are struggling at tight end.

671
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: I guarantee it.

672
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: Yes, everybody, all right?

673
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Speaker 1: Next question Broncos at Jets. I'm curious what you guys

674
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: make of the Broncos defense in general in terms of

675
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: what it means for fantasy going against it. Is this

676
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: a defense to be feared to the point of affecting

677
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: weekly rankings for opposing players, Like, obviously we're not going

678
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: to be sitting Bresol or Garrett Wilson, although Garrett Wilson

679
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: going up against Patrick Sutan is like super unappeeling. But

680
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: is there anybody else really on either side of this

681
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: matchup even worth playing given the defenses that we have here.

682
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: Fits, I'm not really worried about running backs going against

683
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: the Denver defense. I think their run defense has been

684
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: like perfectly average so far. The Broncos have allowed the

685
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: fewest passing yards through three weeks, and they're giving up

686
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: just five point seven yards per past attempt. But then again,

687
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: it's not like they have faced a murderer's row of

688
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: quarterbacks so far. Gino Smith justin Field's Baker Mayfield. So eh,

689
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: I think the only thing we really have to worry

690
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: about with our fantasy matchups, as you mentioned Patrick Curtan

691
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: and like he does shadow. But Deebro, you would know

692
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: this better than I. Do you look at the coverages

693
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 4: carefully when you're doing the primer? Does does Certan follow

694
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 4: guys into the slot?

695
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: Ooh, good question, FITZI.

696
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I feel like he's shadowing the outside guys,

697
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: but I feel like Wilson's probably going to get some

698
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: slot snaps. And I don't know if Certain has been

699
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: traveling with outside receivers who occasionally line up in the.

700
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Speaker 3: Sea, he's been following guys like so, I was gonna

701
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: bring that point up. I mean, he has followed guys

702
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: up to ninety five percent of routes, so I think

703
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: so right now, he's got eleven slot snaps on the season,

704
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: so specifically, like I mean up to seven and week two,

705
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: so I think he will particularly follow guys and you

706
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: saw that last week. I think it's a good point,

707
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: Fitzy Garrett Wilson almost went fifty to fifty like as

708
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: far as outside versus lot usage, So it is a

709
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: really good point to bring up. So I think they'll

710
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: be able to get Garrett off of him some. But

711
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: I think you're still gonna see Sir Tan on him

712
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: at least fifty to maybe sixty to seventy percent of

713
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: his routes. I mean, Stan has been so good there.

714
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: There is only a three pack of like shadow corners

715
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: in the NFL that I am so worried about on

716
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: a weekly basis. It's Sir Tan, It's Joey Porter Junior,

717
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: and it's Christian Gonzalveez. That are the only guys that

718
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: are truly shadowing and really making a difference right now.

719
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, just to give Sartin a little

720
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: bit more shine here. He followed metcalf Evans and George

721
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: Pickens on seventy one to ninety five percent of the routes. None,

722
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: none of those guys got over thirty receiving yards in

723
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: his primary coverage. So he is, he's a dude. So

724
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: where Garrett Wilson, then I'm going to be bumping him down.

725
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: I mean, right now, I've got him at still kind

726
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: of going through ranks. I've got him at wide receiver twenty,

727
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: so somewhere in that low end wide receiver two tier.

728
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: Like I think he could still get like, you know,

729
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: somewhere in the forty to fifty receiving yard range and

730
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: get a touchdown and save his day as like a

731
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: wide receiver two. But I'm nothing. I have no higher

732
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 3: hopes than that fits.

733
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: It looks like you've got him ranked quite a bit higher.

734
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 5: I do.

735
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 4: I've got him wide receiver nine, and maybe I need

736
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: to bump that down a little. But it's just Wilson

737
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 4: is really good himself. Like, I don't want to totally

738
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: fade guys, because good receivers can win those matchups against

739
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: really t cornerbacks. And Aaron Rodgers is a dude who

740
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 4: can fit a ball through a portal like he is,

741
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 4: so pinpoints, you know, you don't need a lot of

742
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 4: cushion for Aaron Rodgers to be able to threat a

743
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: throw into Garrett Wilson. So I don't want to totally

744
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: fade him, Like I'm not benching Garrett Wilson for Darnell Mooney.

745
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's fair.

746
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: But so I guess on the other side, are we

747
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: now more interested in Alan Lazard or Tyler Concklin because

748
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: we think Wilson might be neutralized to a degree?

749
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: Am I oh, sorry, s d Bro Like, I know

750
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 4: we're gonna have a hard time interesting me and Alan Laizard.

751
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: I mean I am, I mean he keeps producing guys.

752
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: I mean, if Garrett's not getting the target volume, Mike

753
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: Williams is healthier but still not drawing at a lot

754
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: of targets here. I mean, I know nobody wants to

755
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: hear it. Alan Mazard wide receiver eighteen and fantasy points

756
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 3: per game. Right now, he's tied for the team lead

757
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: with five. I have red zone targets like it's a thing.

758
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: Alm Mazart is. So I think that you're gonna if

759
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: you see certain on Wilson a lot. That means that

760
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: Alm Mazart is going to be matched up with Riley

761
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: Moss a lot who is allowed a seventy five percent

762
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: catch rate one twelve passer rating in his coverage. Good

763
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: matchup so as well as Denver runs a lot of

764
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: single high U so far this year, Alan Mazard versus

765
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: single high as yards per route run had been at

766
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: two point one. So it's good numbers across the board. Man,

767
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: So I've got interest in al Mazart is like a

768
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: flex play as well as Brayleen Allen. I mean, Denver

769
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: can't stop anybody on the ground. We're talking about a

770
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: defense that's allowed that bottom twelve and explosive run rate

771
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: allowed and yards are to contact per attempt, and Brayleen

772
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: Allen is Look, the Braileen Allen we saw in college

773
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: versus the Braillen Allen we're seeing in the NFL, I

774
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 3: think are very different in the sense that the problem

775
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: that I have with Braileen Allen as a prospect was

776
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: not the size, was not the physicality. It was the

777
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: fact that he ran like he thought he was a

778
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: five to nine, one to ninety back where he could

779
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: jute guys or No, you are giant, you are massive,

780
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: you are mutant. You need to run dudes over, You

781
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: need to get downhill and be physical, and that's what

782
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: we're seeing in the NFL, and Breyman Allen on a

783
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: per touch basis is top five in both yards of

784
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: the contact p attempt and miss tackles force per attempt.

785
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: So while in a game that like we're talking about

786
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: other guys being playable, I think Lazard is in that equation.

787
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 3: I think Wilson is fine as a wide receiver. Two.

788
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 3: I also think this is a game where the Jets

789
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: to just are not gonna have to throw the ball

790
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: a ton because Denver is not that good. The Jets

791
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: defense is that good, and if they smother them. This

792
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 3: is a game where we're talking about Bramon Allen as

793
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: an RB three. He could walk away this week as

794
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: an RB two if he gets like late game runs,

795
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: salting the clock away and we see them managing Breeze

796
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: Hall's touches in the fourth quarter.

797
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: Imagine if he went to Dallas, Like, I just how

798
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: you're exciting, that would be. I loved fitz Noses from

799
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: the Dynasty Shop. I love Branlon Allen actually as a prospect.

800
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: The only reason I came off of him in fantasy

801
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: is the landing spot.

802
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 2: It's just because I was so high on Breese Hall.

803
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: I was like, there's just no way if he went

804
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: anywhere else, I was all over him, you know, just

805
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: as a in a weaker running back class.

806
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: I loved Braylon Allen, So I can.

807
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: You imagine what he would be doing, like even if

808
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 3: he was on the Chargers, like the two headed monster

809
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: of him and.

810
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: Dobbins, anywhere other than when anywhere other than the Jets,

811
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: the Falcons, the Niners, the place with like the elite,

812
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: elite guys anywhere else, Like, I just would have been

813
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: so over the moon for him. So I'm happy to

814
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: see he's doing well.

815
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: Though.

816
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to Saints at Falcons divisional matchup here. Uh,

817
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: the very so far unstoppable Saints offense was finally stopped

818
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: in Week three against Philadelphia. Will they look more like

819
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: that team against the Falcons here in week four or

820
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: more like the team that Domini and was unstoppable in

821
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 1: weeks one and two.

822
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 4: Fits they were never going to be able to keep

823
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: up that sort of pace for an entire season. Derek

824
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 4: Carr is pretty well established in fantasy. Is a mid

825
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 4: range to low end QB two now in a good

826
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 4: system with a good play caller and a good supporting cast,

827
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 4: and I think Clint Kubiak system is a good one.

828
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: Maybe Derek Carr.

829
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 4: Can be a high end to mid range QB two

830
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: and this offense can be solidly above average. But here's

831
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 4: the thing. The usage tree for the Saints is skinny.

832
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: It does not have a lot of branches. It's Alvin Kamara,

833
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: It's Chris Olave, It's Rashid Shahed, and those guys are

834
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: going to account for a huge percentage of the yardage

835
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 4: and touchdowns on this team. I think all three of

836
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 4: those guys, including Shahed, can be powerful engines for fantasy teams.

837
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: Debro, you are a residence Saints guy. You know what

838
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: do you think about the diff prince we saw in

839
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: week three compared to weeks one and two for this offense.

840
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: Man, I really didn't see them getting just stomped like

841
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: they did last week. I didn't give enough credence, I

842
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 3: guess to the Philadelphia Eagles pass rush because to be honest,

843
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: we hadn't seen it to that point. But my worry

844
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: for Derek Carr is the superpowers that have kind of

845
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: made him just crush in Week one Week two, Land

846
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: has been pretty good versus it. I mean, we're talking

847
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: about a defense that look, Derek Carr, it's been all

848
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 3: play action. The problem is that Lanta has been really

849
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: good as far as defending play action. I mean, right now,

850
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: they have faced the most play action passing attempts in

851
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: the NFL right now, and they're holding offenses to the

852
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: eighth lowest play action yards per attempt and zero play

853
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 3: action touchdowns as well as offensive lines banged up. Now

854
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: Eric McCoy hurt. The offensive line, the rest of it

855
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: is not playing amazing. There's only so much you can

856
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: do with that as far as scheme, and Atlanta's secondary

857
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: has been playing pretty good outside of Ajhil being up

858
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: and down and pulling his best Marshawn Lattimore impression. I

859
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: think this really comes down to the Saints wide receivers

860
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: are going to need to separate and do it quickly,

861
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: and car is going to need to get the ball

862
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: out of his hands. With the way that the status

863
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: of this offensive line. If they can't do that, if

864
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 3: Atlanta can press them at the line and jam them

865
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: up both Shaheed and o Lobby and they can't get

866
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: open early in their routes and get the ball out

867
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: of Car's hands. I think right now I'm the media

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, next question here, Steelers at Colts. On

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Speaker 1: a scale from one to ten, what is our concern

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Speaker 1: level for Anthony Richardson and the Colts passing game, both

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Speaker 1: for this very scary matchup going up against Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 3: This week an eight for the rest of the season,

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Speaker 3: probably like a six, five and a half six, like

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Speaker 3: I think Anthony Richardson. The thing about it is we

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Speaker 3: always knew there were going to be ebbs and flows.

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00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: He's still a guy that needed more starts. And I'm

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Speaker 3: know that we were We're so quick and the recency

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00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,399
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Speaker 3: We all remember Anthony Richardson torching what we think is

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Speaker 3: a strong Houston secondary and defense a week one, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So it's not like we've seen three straight games of

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson just looking bad. And it's also not all

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Speaker 3: been his fault. Eighth most drops amongst his wide receivers

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Speaker 3: this year, So I don't think granthy richards Anthony Richardson

929
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Speaker 3: has played great over the last two weeks. I am

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Speaker 3: very worried about him in this matchup, But again, where

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Speaker 3: are we going to be ranking Anthony Richardson next week

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Speaker 3: when he plays the fricking Jacksonville Jaguars guys. So while

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Speaker 3: I'm worried about him this week, I'm not pressing the panic,

934
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Speaker 3: the the insanity, the the I need to trade him away,

935
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Speaker 3: bench him, cut him, whatever type of stuff. We're still

936
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Speaker 3: gonna get rushing equity out of him, and that that's

937
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: always been the secrets. So I think Shane Stycken is

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Speaker 3: also like we still consider him one of the best

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Speaker 3: coordinators in the freaking NFL, and I think they're going

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Speaker 3: to get this figured out in long haul.

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Speaker 1: Can we really say he torched the Texans DV He

942
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Speaker 1: completed nine passes in week one?

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Speaker 3: What was his yards per attempt? I all watch the

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Speaker 3: immaculate throw that probably is going to end up on

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Speaker 3: the highlight reel of the best throws in the NFL

946
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Speaker 3: for the entire It was an amazing throw.

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Speaker 1: And obviously I'm not gonna playing about the total fantasy output.

948
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Speaker 1: He had a rushing touchdown in that game too, but

949
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Speaker 1: it's hard to look at it at a guy who

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Speaker 1: went nine for nineteen and just framing it as he

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Speaker 1: torched that secondary, I guess feels extreme to me. Fits

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Speaker 1: I mean, am I wrong here?

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Speaker 5: Not wrong?

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Speaker 3: But eleven point two yards per attempt?

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Speaker 4: But okay, But I'm like, fundamentally on the side of

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Speaker 4: deebro here, and I mean Debro's at six or eight

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Speaker 4: or whatever for his level of concern, I am a

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Speaker 4: two point five. I want to err on the side

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Speaker 4: of patience with a quarterback who has the sort of

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Speaker 4: rushing potential that Anthony Richardson has and deep mention it like,

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Speaker 4: do we still still think Shane Steiken is a high

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Speaker 4: quality offensive architect? I do, like I still have faith

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Speaker 4: in Stikeen, And just as a reminder, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: mention a stat that I mentioned like ad nauseum in

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Speaker 4: the offseason about Anthony Richardson. How last year Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: led all fantasy quarterbacks in all quarterbacks in fantasy scoring,

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Speaker 4: and Anthony Richardson still averaged nineteen point four percent more

968
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Speaker 4: points per snap than Josh Allen did last year. And

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00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: granted that was a limited sample size for Richardson, who

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Speaker 4: really only started and finished two games. But in those

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00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 4: two games, he averaged better than twenty five fantasy points

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Speaker 4: the game and finished quarterback four and quarterback two in

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00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 4: those two weeks. So, yes, Richardson has been pretty bad

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00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 4: as a passer this season. Completion percentage is forty nine

975
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 4: point three percent, and yes, he has an NFL high

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Speaker 4: six interceptions, some of which have been so ill advised

977
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 4: they would make Will Levis blush. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: Richardson is averaging eight yards per attempt, like he hits

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Speaker 4: on big plays. That's sixth in the NFL among quarterbacks

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00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 5: He is ahead of.

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Aaron Rodgers

983
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 4: in yardage per attempt. It shows that he can at

984
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 4: least make big plays in the passing game. And we

985
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Speaker 4: know what Richardson is capable of as a runner. So

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Speaker 4: I am begging people who are ready to pull the

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Speaker 4: ripcord on Anthony Richardson, like, do not get rid of him.

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00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: It's three games, guys, and they just got Josh Down's back.

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00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: It's three games. Like, people need to quit freaking out

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00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: as much as they're doing right now.

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Speaker 1: So with this question, I did also mention the passing

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Speaker 1: offense in general, So I am in full agreement in

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Speaker 1: terms of, like Anthony Richardson as a fantasy asset, the

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Speaker 1: rushing alone, like it almost doesn't matter what else is

995
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 1: going on with the arm because of the rushing.

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Speaker 2: Upside he gives you.

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00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 1: As far as the passing offense in general, though, if

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Speaker 1: a guy's version of torching a defense is nine completions,

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Speaker 1: and I'd kind of been tongue in cheek about that,

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Speaker 1: but can we be confidently starting like Michael Pittman Junior

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Speaker 1: and Josh Downs. I mean, Alec Pierce obviously is among

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Speaker 1: the league leaders in fantasy points so far the season

1003
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Speaker 1: with a couple of big plays. But deever, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing with the pass catchers in this game?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm muting all of them. I just

1006
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Speaker 3: talked about Joey Porter Junior being awesome. Michael Pittman's going

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Speaker 3: to see him for most of the game, so good

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Speaker 3: luck there. Josh Downs in his first game back, people

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Speaker 3: want to talk about his first read, cheer and stuff

1010
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Speaker 3: like that. Let's not get to twist to people. He

1011
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Speaker 3: had a one point eight a dot. Okay, it was all.

1012
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Speaker 3: It was like forty percent of his targets were designed targets.

1013
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: So let's not good out get a crazy out there

1014
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Speaker 3: and be like, oh, Josh Downs is the win receiver

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00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: one in this offense, Like come on. So, I mean again,

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers pass defense is one of the best

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Speaker 3: in the NFL right now, and I don't see that

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Speaker 3: changing as long as they stay healthy. So I'm very,

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Speaker 3: very concerned, like I would be benching or sending most

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Speaker 3: of these guys like they're all wide receiver low in

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Speaker 3: like Pittman right now. I've got him at I gotta

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Speaker 3: look at where I got him normal ranks. I probably

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Speaker 3: got him as a wide receiver three right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean right on the borderline like wide receiver thirty seven,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's where he should be because again

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Speaker 3: we talk about passing volume, but also Joey Porter Junr.

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Speaker 3: So I don't want to start any of these Colts

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Speaker 3: pass catchers.

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Speaker 2: This week fits just quickly on the pass catcher same.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Pittman is Pittman is playable most weeks, but

1031
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 4: I kind of want to avoid it if I can.

1032
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 4: This week against the tough matchup with Porter.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into some of the later slate matchups for

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Speaker 1: Sunday question number seven, Commanders at Cardinals. Both of these

1035
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: offenses are humming and have been for a lot of

1036
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: the season. Which players in this game have the best

1037
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Speaker 1: chance to lead their respective positions in fantasy scoring this week?

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Speaker 2: You can talk Kyler and Jaden at quarterback.

1039
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Speaker 1: You can talk you know, Brian Robinson and James Connor

1040
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Speaker 1: running back if you want. You can talk Marvin Harrison

1041
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Speaker 1: junior Terry McLaurin. Which of these guys you think is

1042
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: the best chance to lead their positions in scoring this week?

1043
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Speaker 4: Fits well, let's see, I've got Kyler rank QB one

1044
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 4: this week and Jade rank QB four, So Kyler with

1045
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Speaker 4: a pretty good chance.

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Speaker 1: I actually, I actually didn't know you had a ranked

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Speaker 1: well when I put this together, that's great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Marvin Harrison Junior with no Trey McBride,

1049
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Speaker 4: likely because of a concussion. Marvin has only had one

1050
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Speaker 4: game this season with double digit targets. He had eleven

1051
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Speaker 4: last week against the Lions. I would love to see

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Speaker 4: him have a Melik Neighbors game with thirteen or fourteen

1053
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Speaker 4: targets and just see what kind of numbers he could

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Speaker 4: put up against this Washington Commander's defense. That's just to

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Speaker 4: welcome Matt for wide receivers. And even though Eckler is

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Speaker 4: potentially a workhorse running back this week, I'm still gonna

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Speaker 4: go with James Connor having the better chance to absolutely

1059
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Speaker 4: go nuts against Washington. The Commanders have given up a

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Speaker 4: league high seven hundred and ninety one rushing yards in

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Speaker 4: a league high nine rushing touchdowns to running backs this season.

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Speaker 1: Dee Bro, what do you think, obviously you've been the

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Speaker 1: jay and Daniels guy, do you think he can finish

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Speaker 1: TV one this week? Or are you more leaning towards

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Speaker 1: the Kyler and kind of a you know, Cardinals side,

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Speaker 1: just given how porous that Commander's defense is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think Jayden can walk away with

1068
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Speaker 3: a better game than even Kyler this week. And this

1069
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Speaker 3: is not me shaning Kyler. I like Kyler. The matchup

1070
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Speaker 3: speaks for itself, fits he laid it out perfectly. But

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Speaker 3: James Connor, like the matchup is fantastic. I think that

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Speaker 3: running back, you can lean on your ground game, and yes,

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Speaker 3: Kyler is going to be a part of that. I

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Speaker 3: Washington's been terrible at stopping the run. He's getting all

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Speaker 3: the work in the backfield. Trade Benson has not looked

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Speaker 3: good or really been much of a factor to this point.

1080
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: But if it's not James Connor, then y'all, I'll throw

1081
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 3: more hot water on Jane Daniels man. He looked fantastic.

1082
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 3: This is a coming out party. Arizona has not been tested.

1083
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: They have faced the second lowest passing attempts this season.

1084
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: Make no mistake, people, their secondary is not good. When

1085
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 3: Sean Murphy bunting is one of your best corners, you've

1086
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: got a problem. Jane Daniels we just saw what the

1087
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 3: differents to Cincinnati. I think the encore is coming right now.

1088
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: As long as Arizona and we think they're going to

1089
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 3: they push back and push the Commanders in this game,

1090
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: I think we're just gonna see another miraculous performance from

1091
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: Jane Daniels.

1092
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned when talking about DraftKings that this is the

1093
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: highest total of the week. It started at fifty and

1094
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: a half. I think it went down to fifty. I'm

1095
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna pull up to see if it's changed it all

1096
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: this morning. What's the case for them going under? Because

1097
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: I just feel like this is like, I mean, I know,

1098
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: I know, it's kind of a sucker's bet. You speak, oh,

1099
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: highest total of the week, it's it's that for a reason.

1100
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: It's going to be fun to bet the over. But

1101
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: like the way these offenses look and the way the

1102
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: defenses are, I just don't see how this game isn't

1103
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: played in the fifties, Devroch.

1104
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: You think anyway, pay some play that's the only way.

1105
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: Like neither one of these offenses are running really fast.

1106
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: So the only way that this game doesn't hit the over,

1107
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: it's not because the defenses. It's just because of overall

1108
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: play volume. That's that's the only way. But I think

1109
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: you're looking at like fine, like if they don't hit,

1110
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: you know, hit the over on on forty nine and

1111
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 3: a half or fifty and a half, depending on where

1112
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: you're getting the line at, it's going to be really close.

1113
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: You don't need to run that many plays when you

1114
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: when you score every possession like the Commanders have for

1115
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row.

1116
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: True.

1117
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: True, Yeah, you can find this at forty nine and

1118
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: a half some place to fifty a half some places

1119
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: we prefer DraftKings Sportsbook where it's right at fifty fits.

1120
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 2: What do you think about that total?

1121
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the only case for the under I

1122
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 4: guess is that what the average NFL game has produced,

1123
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 4: like forty and a half points this season. So I

1124
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 4: mean this would have to be a really souped up

1125
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 4: offensive battle for this to go over, and like it's

1126
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 4: you never know, you get just one like six and

1127
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 4: a half minute drive that results in a turnover at

1128
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: the other team's ten yard line, and all of a

1129
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 4: sudden you're over, like just crumbles away.

1130
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: I do think that this, and this is not specifically

1131
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: this game. I do think we are now into the

1132
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: time of the year where we have seen enough of

1133
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: the shaking off the rust of players not playing in

1134
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: preseason anymore. Like this kind of week three, week four

1135
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: range is where I think typically in this era of

1136
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: players not playing in August, that we start to see

1137
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: offenses really kind of become a little more fully fleshed

1138
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: out fully formed. So maybe that takes place in this game.

1139
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it doesn't, But I do think that the early

1140
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: games being pretty low total scoring in general, I think

1141
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: we're hopefully kind of getting out of that at this point.

1142
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: We'll see how it ends up playing out.

1143
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 5: Maybe worm the under is already one to oh in

1144
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 5: week four.

1145
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's a good point, all right. Question number

1146
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: eight Chiefs at Chargers. Is Zavier Worthy a must bench

1147
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: for the time being? He said, two catches for seventeen

1148
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: yards in back to back weeks, the same stat line

1149
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: both of those weeks. Has not scored a touchdown since

1150
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: Week one, just eleven total targets on the season. It's

1151
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: one of those things where you would hate to sit him,

1152
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: and then he blows up for another two touchdown game.

1153
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: And so maybe that's, you know, setting your lineup out

1154
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: of fear more than out of you know, being unemotional

1155
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: and making the right decision based on what he's done.

1156
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: But Debro, what are you doing with Worthy?

1157
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: Because I mean, I am starting him in the onely

1158
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: guy I have him, man, I kind of don't have

1159
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: a choice in that league, though, But if you have

1160
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: a choice at all, are you looking elsewhere?

1161
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 3: I think it depends. It comes down to what your

1162
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: options are. I don't think he's a much bench player,

1163
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: but right now, like I've got him at wide receiver

1164
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: thirty five in my ranks, I would start him over

1165
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior, Michael Pittman, Jalen Wattle, Calvin Ridley, lab McConkey,

1166
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: a lot of different guys. So I mean, I think

1167
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: he's still in that wide receiver three type of area

1168
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: code and it really kind of comes down to matchups

1169
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 3: and we know what else you got on your roster.

1170
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 3: Like so, I mean, I think because the other thing

1171
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: we need to talk about the Chargers too. They could

1172
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: be without a few of their defensive pieces this week.

1173
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Derwin James already out, Bosa might not play.

1174
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, we don't even know if he's gonna play

1175
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: or not. So you know, again, this could be a sneaky,

1176
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 3: get right game for the Chiefs offense.

1177
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: Fits.

1178
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: What do you think about Worthy? I mean, he's one

1179
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: blown coverage not happening away from having been totally unplayable

1180
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: from the pass catching. At least he did have the

1181
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: rushing touchdown, but as a pass catcher, that blown coverage

1182
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: is the only reason he's been playable so far in

1183
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: his young career.

1184
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm I'm with Deebro as far as the ranking.

1185
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 4: I've got him down in the Michael Pittman zone of

1186
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 4: low end, wide receiver three, high and wide receiver four.

1187
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 4: The debate I was having is Deebro mentioned two of

1188
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 4: the guys, the two Jaguars, Kirk and Brian Thomas Junior.

1189
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 4: I think Worthy is right with those guys. I think

1190
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 4: whether you play him is kind of It depends a

1191
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: lot on context, not only what your other options are,

1192
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 4: but what your game situation is. Like Worthy is more so.

1193
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 4: Strength loves certainty and weakness loves risk. If you are

1194
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 4: a heavy underdog in your game, Worthy might be the

1195
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,479
Speaker 4: guy who can land the sort of haymakers you need

1196
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 4: to beat a heavily favored opponent, Whereas if you are

1197
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: going up against some injury riddle team that you are

1198
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 4: favored to beat by like fifteen points, I'd probably want

1199
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 4: to go with a safer like Darnell Mooney type of

1200
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 4: option Overworthy, just because I mean, Worthy hasn't had more

1201
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 4: than four targets in any game so far this season.

1202
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm like, I totally got served

1203
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: on this whole Kansas City offense. I thought with Hollywood Brown,

1204
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 4: who obviously you know isn't going to work out because

1205
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 4: he's not going to play, and Xavier Worthy, they would

1206
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 4: restore sort of a vertical element to this Kansas City offense.

1207
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: Hasn't happened. Patrick Mahomes is averaging five point two intended

1208
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 4: air yards per target according to Pro Football Reference. Earlier

1209
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: in his career he was averaging eight or nine intended

1210
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 4: air yards per pass attempt.

1211
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 5: He's down a five point two. This is.

1212
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 4: Like Cliff Kingsbury has taken over Andy Reid's body. But

1213
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: like I mean, it's the way the Chiefs are sort

1214
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 4: of being forced to play. They're saying they're playing too

1215
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 4: high against Casey and saying, Okay, you know, dink and

1216
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: dunk your way downfield, and that's exactly what they're doing.

1217
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 4: So you can always get that big catch and run

1218
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 4: play from Xavier Worthy that's in play for sure. Wide

1219
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 4: range of outcomes here. I think it totally depends on

1220
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 4: what your situation is.

1221
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, to the other point that I want to bring

1222
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: up about this matchup and why I think that we

1223
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: could see more Mahomes in the passing game this week.

1224
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: It doesn't need to get lost in the sauce. The

1225
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 3: Chargers run defense has been top shelf, so they don't

1226
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 3: have the options much less anybody in that backfield that's

1227
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: talented enough to overcome a tough matchup. They're gonna have

1228
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: to throw the ball this week. If they want to

1229
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 3: move the ball, they're going to have to throw the

1230
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: ball and have success there.

1231
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 5: They might be throwing it.

1232
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 4: Short Man Patrick Mahomes has topped twenty fantasy points once

1233
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 4: in his last twelve regular season game, so painful, and

1234
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 4: in those last twelve regular season games under sixteen fantasy

1235
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: points seven times.

1236
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: Geez wild. Yeah, I was.

1237
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: I was with you, especially in the preseason fits like

1238
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: I was all in on Mahomes, like bouncing back as

1239
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: an elite fantasy option this season.

1240
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be a bunch.

1241
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: Of rushing quarterbacks, but Mahomes kind of the one non

1242
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: rusher in that group, you know, at the top of

1243
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: the ranking, and.

1244
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: Kelsey looks like he's running running in peanut butter.

1245
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

1246
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: I was very much fading Kelsey this draft. A lot

1247
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: of it was because I was just assuming they were

1248
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: going to intentionally save him for uh, you know, for January.

1249
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: He also just doesn't look very good. I mean, it's

1250
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: it's a long season. Maybe he is just kind of,

1251
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, internally saving himself for January. And you know,

1252
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: we know that the three pet is all this team

1253
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: really cares about. But but yeah, it's it's not been

1254
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: what I expected to be through the first three weeks.

1255
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to Sunday Night football, Bill's at Ravens. Maybe

1256
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: the game of the week looks looks like a really

1257
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: fun one. Two awesome quarterbacks. Josh Allen like pretty clearly

1258
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 1: I think would be the MVP if we were voting

1259
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: right now, obviously still still early in the year. Going

1260
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: up against the defending reigning MVP, I am going to

1261
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: bring up the tight ends. I don't know why Debro

1262
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: called me a homer, because both Mark Andrews and Isaiah

1263
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: Likely are ranked in the top ten coring to our

1264
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: expert consensus rankings for this week, and I'm curious.

1265
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: I'll start with you, de Broke, since.

1266
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: You're shaking your head, do you think that one of

1267
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: them can take advantage of this matchup? And you know,

1268
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: the Bills defense somewhat banged up a bit in areas

1269
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: that maybe Andrews and likely could take advantage of. You know,

1270
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens typically play well at home in prime time.

1271
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: Is it smart to be ranking either of these guys

1272
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 1: or both theoretically like they are in ecr as top

1273
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: ten options this week.

1274
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got Mark Andrews a tight end ten,

1275
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: But it's more of the fact that there's nobody else

1276
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 3: to put above.

1277
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: Him that's the problem there.

1278
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 3: I mean, really, that's it's the state of the position, man,

1279
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 3: Like nobody is good and everybody's hurt. Sam Laporta, George Kittle,

1280
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: if both of them were playing, Mark Andrews probably wouldn't

1281
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 3: be a tight end one this week, you know. So

1282
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: that's really the state of the tight end position more

1283
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: than and it's having any kind of faith. And I'm

1284
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 3: sorry when Todd Monkin comes out and he's like, I

1285
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: didn't know Mark Andrews was not on the field last week.

1286
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 3: I hate quotes like that out of coaches where they're like, well,

1287
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 3: you know, we would like to get this guy more

1288
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: snaps or I'm not aware of that. Bro. You make

1289
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: the decisions. You make the decisions about who goes out

1290
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 3: there and who plays and the STAPs they play and

1291
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: how things go. You're telling me you don't come on,

1292
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Speaker 3: come on. So no, I don't have a lot of

1293
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: faith in either one of them. Man, I'm like Mark

1294
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 3: Andrew's like, we're still talking about a Bill's defense that

1295
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 3: has allowed the fifth lowest yards per reception to the

1296
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: tight end position and they face the third most tight

1297
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 3: end targets because teams are like, we don't want to

1298
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Speaker 3: go against those corners. M m m m m mmm.

1299
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Speaker 3: So I just I look at the Baltimore offense. It's

1300
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 3: all over the map. I think Todd Mounkin is flailing

1301
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: as a play caller, Like looking at what they've done

1302
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,479
Speaker 3: every single week makes no sense. Anybody that like, while

1303
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 3: Lamar like walked away from the Kansas City Chiefs game

1304
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 3: and likely did with good stat lines, it was basically

1305
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 3: dump it off, broke and play Lamar, go make magic.

1306
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: We don't know what we're gonna do. And then they

1307
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: play Dallas and it was like, well, we're gonna run

1308
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: the ball with Derick Henry. And then towards the end

1309
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 3: of the game, we're like they take their foot off

1310
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: the gas, are like, well, I guess we're gonna keep

1311
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 3: running ball. We don't know what else we're gonna do,

1312
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: or we're gonna short throw short screens to say Flowers.

1313
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: I just don't think Todd Mounkin has a lot of

1314
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: really good answers about what to do with the offense.

1315
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: And a lot of this comes back to we were

1316
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: worried about the offensive line coming into the season. I

1317
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: think this offensive line has gone from a problem to

1318
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: like it could be the absolute iceberg for the Titanic

1319
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 3: of this offense, to where it's they're trying to find

1320
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 3: ways to overcome the offensive line to make the offense

1321
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: functional with the way that the offensive line is playing.

1322
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: And I just don't see any way where I get

1323
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews and they need to pass block and they

1324
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: got heavy sets and all this kind of stuff. Any

1325
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 3: iteration where you take arguably your best pass catcher and

1326
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 3: you take him out of the equation about how you

1327
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: plan to function as an offense is not smart in

1328
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 3: any way, shape, form, or fashion. So I don't know

1329
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: why Baltimore is favored in this game. I've already Betuffalo.

1330
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 3: I think Buffalo stomps them this week.

1331
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: So I think you're wrong with them stopping them. I

1332
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: do think Buffalo wins. I don't think the Ravens should be.

1333
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: How do you think Baltimore moves the ball outside of

1334
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 3: running the ball with Derrick Henry.

1335
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think that will be effective.

1336
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: But that's it, right, Like what else are they going

1337
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 3: to do?

1338
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: Like, I think that Andrews in it likely can do

1339
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: well against I mean, who of the Bronx. You mentioned

1340
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: that the Bronx have done a good job of like

1341
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: limiting tight ends. They face the Jaguars without Evan Ingram,

1342
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: they face the Dolphins, like, I know they faced Tree

1343
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: McBride in Week one, but like, it's not like they've

1344
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: been going up against a murderer's row of tight ends.

1345
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,959
Speaker 1: And I think you're overreacting a bit to the play

1346
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: calling for the first three weeks. We've talked a lot

1347
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: on the show about how I'm a very strong believer that.

1348
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 3: Trey McBride week won thirty receiving yards.

1349
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that that one was good.

1350
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: But the but the other two who were the tight

1351
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: ends they were going up against, that scare you, I.

1352
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: Know, But Buffalo has also been historically a really good

1353
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: or a terrible matchupal I should say for tight ends.

1354
01:04:58,720 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: I think the Raves will be able to move the

1355
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: in this game.

1356
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: Again, I agree that Bills are the Bills are the

1357
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: better team, and I think the Bills should be favored.

1358
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: I said it in an early week episode. I was

1359
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: confused why the Ravens this game outside of just the

1360
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: whole at home in prime time and they're usually good there.

1361
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: But that's narrative driven, that's not based on on the

1362
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: way the teams look right now. So I agree with

1363
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: you in that sense. I've said before. I don't think

1364
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: you should you can take anything away from what the

1365
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: Ravens do against the Chiefs. They always play them differently,

1366
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: whether like they shouldn't do that. I don't think they

1367
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: should loaded their minds. They always do. And then and

1368
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: then they didn't need to do anything against the Cowboys

1369
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: like I like, they were fine to keep running the ball.

1370
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: The reason the Cowboys came back in that game was

1371
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: because of a fluky on sidekick recovery and because the

1372
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: defense didn't do a good enough job of shutting them down,

1373
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't blame the offense for that one.

1374
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: And then the Raiders game and fits I'll toss to

1375
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: you now. We talked about this on the Thursday Show.

1376
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: That was the one game where Andrews, I mean he

1377
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: didn't catch a touchdown. If he did, he that looks

1378
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: like a pretty good day relative to the tight end

1379
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 1: landscape this season. It's not some big blow up game.

1380
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: But you know the other two games besides that Raiders game,

1381
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: our game where Lamar threw the ball fifteen times because

1382
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 1: he didn't really need to throw anymore, and then the Chiefs,

1383
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: which they always played differently. So what do you think

1384
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: about the tight ends in this matchup?

1385
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1386
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 4: And by the way, I am betting the Ravens worm,

1387
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 4: do you really think that John Harbaugh Ravens are going

1388
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,479
Speaker 4: to lay two complete eggs at home back to back.

1389
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 4: I kind of a hard time seeing. And I think

1390
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 4: they're going to be breathing fire after the way they

1391
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: played against the Raiders the last.

1392
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: I just think Josh Allen is breathing fire.

1393
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: All yeah. Yeah. So Baltimore pass defense has also been

1394
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 3: sneaky bad open the season.

1395
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 4: So out of these two, like, I kind of don't

1396
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 4: want to play Isaiah Likely, who in the two games

1397
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 4: since that Week one explosion has had three catches for

1398
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 4: thirty yards on four targets.

1399
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 5: Like he's just we're back to where we were.

1400
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 4: It seems like where as long as Mark Andrews was

1401
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 4: on the field, you couldn't play Isaiah likely. But the

1402
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 4: weird thing is that it's hard to play Mark Andrews either.

1403
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 4: I do have him tight end eight, and I'm not

1404
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 4: totally ready to wave the white flag on him.

1405
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 5: I don't know what's up with him. Is it health.

1406
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he had the offseason tightrope surgery that slowed

1407
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 4: down Tony Pollard early last season. He was in a

1408
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,959
Speaker 4: car crash in August that causing caused him to miss

1409
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 4: practices in training camp, only twenty one snaps last week.

1410
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 4: But you know, John Harbaugh said it was because they

1411
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 4: were using this heavy personnel package with Patrick Riccard and

1412
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 4: Charlie Kohler at tight end. I don't know if it's

1413
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 4: health related, if it's just that, you know, small sample

1414
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 4: size three games. He did have a decent game in

1415
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 4: Week two where he had like what four catches. I'm

1416
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 4: just not ready to throw in the towel. I'm concerned

1417
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 4: for sure, and I've got Mark Andrews on a few teams,

1418
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 4: but I'm not ready to give it up or start

1419
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 4: like Zach Ertz in place of Mark Andrews.

1420
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: I will say here, I don't think it's a Mark

1421
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: Andrews problem. I don't. If you look at just his

1422
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 3: separation scores and his route win rate amongst forty two

1423
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 3: qualifying tight ends, he has a better separation score, he's first,

1424
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: he has a better separation score than Trey McBride, and

1425
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: he's fourth in win rate. So I don't think this

1426
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 3: is a Mark Andrews problem. I think this is a

1427
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 3: Todd Monkin problem.

1428
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: I think I would put more of the blame for

1429
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: any offensive struggles so far this season. And by the way,

1430
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are still like number one offense

1431
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: in DVOA so far, which I was shocked by. I

1432
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: don't know how that's calculated, but I saw Aaron Shots

1433
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: tweeting about that earlier this week. The offensive line to me,

1434
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: is a much bigger concern than Todd Mounkin. Yeah, and

1435
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: it actually I actually think looked better against Dallas. It's

1436
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: easy to look better against Dallas, to be fair, I

1437
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: think they look better against Dallas than they did in

1438
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,839
Speaker 1: the first two weeks, and I think, like Roger Rosegarten,

1439
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: will get better throughout the season. Andrew Vorhies might miss

1440
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: this game on the left side, you know, left guard,

1441
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: So that's going to be a tough one against Buffalo.

1442
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: But but yeah, to me, like the offensive line is

1443
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: the larger concern.

1444
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: Do you think Lenderbaum plays this week? Because that's all

1445
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 3: he was on the injury report too.

1446
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way they've talked, doesn't They don't seem to

1447
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: be worried about him not playing. He was limited in

1448
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: practic He went from did not practice on Wednesday to

1449
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: limited on Thursday. I suppose as possible, you never know,

1450
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: but from what I have seen and heard, it doesn't

1451
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: seem like they're It seems like Vorhees is the only

1452
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,520
Speaker 1: one that is a major threat to miss on the offense.

1453
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: And he Vorhees has in practice all week. So yeah, yeah,

1454
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: I agree.

1455
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: So I think he probably misses. I think you probably

1456
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: see Patrick McCarry skewed over. Maybe Josh Jones comes off

1457
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: the bench. I'm not sure what they're gonna do. So

1458
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: the offensive line, again, we don't need to put any

1459
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 1: more time into this one. But that's to me, the

1460
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: larger concern. Let's go to Seahawks at Lions. Wrap things

1461
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: up here. Question number ten. We saw down weeks last

1462
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: Sunday for both Jamison Williams and Jackson Smith and Jigba.

1463
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: Which of these receivers young, exciting guys who you know,

1464
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: we have a degree of belief in both of them

1465
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: from what we've seen so far the season, and we

1466
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: liked about him as prospects. Which of those two do

1467
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: we think that has the best chance of bouncing back

1468
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: in this particular matchup on Monday Night football fits.

1469
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 4: I'll go with JSN just because of the Lions have

1470
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 4: a pass funnel defense much better against the run than

1471
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 4: they are against the pass. Good chance Seattle is pass

1472
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 4: heavy this week, they're underdogs, and they're already a little

1473
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 4: pass heavier than league average. With Jamison Williams, I worry

1474
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 4: that well, One that the Seahawks have a really nice

1475
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 4: collection of cornerbacks, and two, sometimes there are weeks where

1476
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson just decides he wants to run the ball

1477
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 4: down an opponent's throat, And we saw the Lions play

1478
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 4: that kind of game last week against the Cardinals. And

1479
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 4: when Ben Johnson calls a game like that, maybe aman

1480
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 4: Ross Saint Brown can survive it and put up good numbers.

1481
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: But I don't know if Jamison Williams can Debra.

1482
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I still think if you got Jamo,

1483
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 3: you're starting him this week. That's why I put him

1484
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 3: as a no brainer, because you know, it's one game

1485
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 3: when we saw him drop to three targets. I don't

1486
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 3: think it, you know, consistently happens. So if you got him,

1487
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 3: you're playing him. But I'm with FITZI here. I think

1488
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 3: JSN has the better game this week quietly Detroit. While yes,

1489
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 3: I agree with FITZI. They have an elite run defense.

1490
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 3: They were elite last year, the elite this year. They've

1491
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 3: quietly been a slot funnel. They've i mean, passing attacks

1492
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 3: have been targeting the slot religiously against them. They faced

1493
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 3: the second most slot targets so far this year, and

1494
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: they've given up the third most receiving yards to opposing

1495
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 3: slot wide receiver. So JSN has been up and down,

1496
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: up and down. I mean it's it's been like no targets,

1497
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 3: you're a focal point of the offense, back to no targets.

1498
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 3: Don't know why Seattle's doing that, but I think we

1499
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 3: get the the the bounce back game from JSN this week.

1500
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 2: Where are you ranking them?

1501
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 3: Question? Worm? I have got js and Jamison Williams is

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Speaker 3: at wide receiver twenty four and I've got JSN at

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Speaker 3: wide receiver twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Oh so back to back. I didn't realize that. Yeah, Fits,

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Speaker 2: where did you bet?

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 2: Where you have them ranked?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I've got to put my money where my mouth is

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Speaker 4: because right now I've got jsunranked behind Jamison Williams.

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Speaker 5: I need to change that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we'll get out of the show on

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Speaker 1: that one. Thank you everybody for tuning. Best of luck

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Speaker 1: in your Week four matchups. It's uh, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: past the overreaction season. We're past the okay, we're just

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Speaker 1: kind of getting back into it. This is the season,

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Speaker 1: so we're getting into it. Bye week start next week,

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Speaker 1: which is wild to consider. So for Debro and Fits,

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