1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wrongful Conviction, False Confessions. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm Laura and I writer and I'm Steve Drisen. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Today we'll tell you the story of Emerson Stevens, a 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: fisherman from Virginia's Chesapeake Bay. When a young mother was 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: found murdered. It seemed all the evidence pointed to Emerson 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: until the case fell apart. Emerson survived thirty one years 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: in prison with the help of an ally from across 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: the bay. Now you can help him finally clear his name. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Today's episode is based on interviews with Emerson Stevens and 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: his lawyers, along with legal filings and court opinions. So, Steve, 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: today we're going to break the mold. 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: We're going to break them mold. This is not a 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: case that involves a false confession. This is a case 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: that involves a false inculpatory statement. Sometimes detectives can't get 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: a confession, but they'll settle for a fall and culpatory statement. Right. 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: That's lawyer talk for something you say that makes you 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: look really bad. 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and it's false. So it's a lie. 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 2: And the same tactics that are used to get false 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: confessions are often used to get these false inculplatory statements, 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: and they. 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: Can have the same devastating consequences. 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: So when I think about this case, I think about 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: it in terms of a puzzle. You know, when my 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: family goes on vacation, we often buy a puzzle and 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: we spend a lot of time putting that puzzle together. 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: And anyone who puts puzzles together knows that there are 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: a lot of times where the piece that you think 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: will finish a part of the puzzle doesn't quite fit. 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: It looks like it should fit, but just a little 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: bit off. And that's what happened with a lot of 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: the evidence in Emerson Stephen's case. They manipulated the evidence 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: to make it seem like it fit. The police theory what. 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: Happens in runfuel conviction cases right tunnel vision makes police 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: officers force these puzzle pieces together when in reality they 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: might not fit at all. 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: It was only after the fact that you could see 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: that the pieces never really fit in the first place. 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Today's story takes place in Lancaster County, Virginia, a rural 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: community nestled between the Chesapeake Bay and the Rappahannock River. 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: It's a place that smells like ocean salt an honest 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: sweat generations there have made a living with their hands, 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: hauling fish out of the bay and crabs and oysters 44 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: out of the river. In nineteen eighty five, this county 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: was home to Mary Harding, who was Lancaster through and through. 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: Petite and blue eyed, Mary was homecoming queen at Lancaster 47 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: High before she and her high school sweetheart tied the knot. 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: By age twenty four, Mary was working as a bookkeeper 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: at the local bank while her husband was a fisherman. 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: They had two young kids and a modest ranch home 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: located just across the street from the cemetery. On Friday, 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: August twenty third, nineteen eighty five, that modest home became 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: the scene of a terrible discovery. On weekdays, Mary had 54 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: a routine before work, she'd drop off her one year 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: old at the home of her husband's grandmother, Virginia Walker, 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: But that Friday morning, Mary didn't show up. Virginia was worried, 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: so she drove over to Mary's house. Virginia was greeted 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: at the door by Mary's four year old son, who 59 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: told her that he couldn't find his mom. The TV 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: and lights were on throughout the house, Some unrensed comet 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: was left in the bathroom sink, and the little boy's 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: chicken dinner from the night before was still sitting on 63 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: the table. Don't worry, the four year old assured his 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: great grandma. In his mother's absence, he was taking care 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: of the baby. Virginia knew there was no way Mary 66 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: would abandon her children. There's only one explanation for her disappearance. 67 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Mary must have been taken. Virginia calls the police, and 68 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: soon a state police detective by the name of David 69 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Riley arrives at the house. He finds cat litter scattered 70 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: on the ground outside the back door, along with one 71 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: of Mary's white sandals, but there's no sign of Mary. 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Pretty soon, word spreads and the whole community starts surging 73 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: through the woods and along the shore. But they find nothing. 74 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: Nothing that is until four days later. That's when a 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: woman's body is found in the shallows of the Rappahannock River. 76 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: The body is unclothed, badly decomposed, and hard to identify, 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: but it's clear something horrific has happened. The woman's back 78 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: is covered with deep, evenly spaced slashes. There's a rope 79 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: tied around her neck with a huge cinder block attached 80 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: to the other end. A heavy chain is wrapped around 81 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: the woman's right leg. Soon enough, the medical examiner confirms 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: this is Mary Harding. She's been strangled to death. Now 83 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: here's the thing. The rope and chain were the same 84 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: kind that you can find on most fishermen's boats in Lancaster. 85 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: So suddenly this close knit community was being torn apart 86 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: by suspicion. Everyone was wondering who would have done this 87 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: to the homecoming queen. Before long, the authorities settled on 88 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: a suspect, thirty two year old Emerson Stevens. Like so 89 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: many other Lancaster men, Emerson had worked on the water 90 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: since he was a teenager. Emerson was a crabber and 91 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: an oysterman who hauled his catch in on a boat 92 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: named after his wife. He'd spent his life by the shore, 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: the kind of guy who has salt water in his veins. 94 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: It was Mary's husband who pointed police to Emerson Stephens. 95 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: Emerson had gone to Mary's funeral, and Mary's husband thought 96 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Emerson seemed nervous there. Mary's husband also remembered that he'd 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: once heard Emerson make a crude joke about female anatomy. 98 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: This wasn't much to go on, but days later, a 99 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: couple of people told police they had seen a light 100 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: colored pickup truck outside Mary's home on the night she disappeared. Now, 101 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: Emerson Stevens happened to drive a white Dodge pickup, so 102 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: he quickly became the police's number one suspect. Detective Riley 103 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: asks Emerson to meet him at Mary Harding's house and 104 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 1: the two men sit down on the front porch. According 105 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: to Emerson, Riley gestures to the street and asks, why 106 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: were you parked in front of this house the night 107 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Mary vanished. 108 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: If you question somebody on the porch, you're creating a 109 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: context that is different from your standard police interrogation. You 110 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: can tap into all of the emotions of This is 111 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: where this woman lived, this is where she had her children, 112 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: this is where she was last seen. This is not 113 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: a police interrogation room. 114 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: It feels like the kind of place where you'd have 115 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: a heart to heart conversation. And there's another thing that 116 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: makes this porch interrogation even more emotional. 117 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, not only was this the front porch of Mary's house, 118 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: it was right across the street from the burial ground 119 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: where her headstone was. 120 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: As the two men look out at the cemetery, he 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: presses Emerson for information, but Emerson is stunned he hadn't 122 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: been at Mary's house. He says he'd been at home, 123 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: then he'd taken his kids over to the neighbors to 124 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: watch TV and eat crab. They'd returned home together at 125 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: about nine thirty PM, and Emerson's wife had gotten home 126 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: from work shortly after. He tells Riley to talk to 127 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: his neighbor and confirm the alibi, but Riley doesn't buy 128 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Emerson's story. Instead, he orders a search of Emerson's pickup truck. 129 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: After digging through the truck for hours, police discover a 130 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: single strand of hair. They send the hair off to 131 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: the state crime lab for forensic analysis. The next week, 132 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: Riley asks Emerson to come to a nearby Virginia police 133 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: station for a polygraph. As soon as the polygraph's completed, 134 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Riley tells Emerson he failed. According to Emerson, Riley says 135 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: he must either have killed Mary Harding or done something 136 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: else related to her murder. Those are two pretty bad options, 137 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: and Emerson is terrified. But then Riley offers Emerson a 138 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: fat third choice that seems a lot better. Maybe you 139 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: were at Mary's house that night doing something innocent. Maybe 140 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: you were driving by and you stopped on the side 141 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: of the road to take a leak. The fisherman takes 142 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: the bait. He's desperate to please Riley and changes his 143 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: story to exactly what Riley suggested. 144 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: If detectives can't get a full confession, they'll settle for 145 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: a false inculpatory statement. All the detective can get from 146 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: Emerson is a statement that he pulled over on the 147 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: side of the road a short distance away from Mary's 148 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: house to relieve himself at the approximate time of death. 149 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: That's the admission. I was in the vicinity of her 150 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: home near the time where the medical examiner believes she 151 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: was killed. 152 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: That was all Emerson said. He did not confess, but 153 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: he'd said enough to get himself in real trouble. He 154 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: just placed himself at the crime scene. Detective was on 155 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: high alert, but the case against Emerson was pretty damn 156 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: thin until test results came back from the state crime 157 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: lab on that hair from Emerson's truck. The lab had 158 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: put the hair under a microscope and compared it to 159 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: Mary Harding's hair, and the lab said it was an 160 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: exact match. The police's thin case suddenly seemed rock solid, 161 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: and in late October nineteen eighty five, Emerson Stephens was 162 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: arrested for the abduction and murder of Mary Harding. The 163 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: trial of Emerson Stephens was one of the most dramatic 164 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: events Lancaster County had ever seen. To a packed courtroom, 165 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: prosecutors described how they thought the crime unfolded. Emerson kidnapped Mary, 166 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: they said, then strangled her and threw her body into 167 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: the river. They even suggested that Emerson slashed Mary's back 168 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: with his fishing knife in order to attract so there 169 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't be anything left of her body. 170 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: The worst imaginable kind of crime. It's like throwing chum 171 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: over the side of a boat to entice sharks. 172 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: But there were problems with the prosecution's theory. They claimed 173 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: that Emerson had thrown Mary's body into the river off 174 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: the end of his own dock, but her body was 175 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: actually found a full ten miles upstream. 176 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: How does a body that is weighed down with a 177 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: cinder block travel ten miles upstream? Upstream means against the current. 178 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: That's the thing I mean to swim those ten miles 179 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: upstream would have been crazy, let alone somehow to float 180 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: a weighted down body that distance. It makes no sense 181 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: at all. It's absurd, But prosecutors found a witness to 182 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: bolster this theory insane, though it seemed. A marine scientist 183 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: testified that it was possible for Mary's body to float 184 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: against the current cinderblock and all for ten miles from 185 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: Emerson's dock to where it was found, and there were 186 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: other witnesses too. Detective Riley told the jury that Emerson 187 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: claimed to have been near Mary's house on the night 188 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: she disappeared, and the prosecution called two people to corroborate 189 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: Emerson's statement, Clyde Dunaway and Anne Dick. They both claimed 190 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: they'd seen a pickup truck resembling Emerson's near the victim's 191 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: house that night, and finally, the prosecution called a witness 192 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 1: from the crime lab to testify that the hare and 193 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: Emerson's truck seemed to match Mary's. 194 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: So it seemed at this point as though all the 195 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: puzzle pieces fit together, and they painted a compelling portrait 196 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: of Emerson's guilt. But this is not the end of 197 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: the story, not by a long shot. 198 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: When the defense's turn came, Emerson's lawyers put on a 199 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: strong case of their own, no fewer than four alibi witnesses. 200 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: In the end, the jury hung unable to reach a verdict. 201 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: The prosecution was quick to retry Emerson, and on July eighth, 202 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six, the second trial began. This time, the 203 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: prosecution's case seemed, if anything, weaker. The marine scientist was 204 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: a no show, so the prosecutor read the jury his 205 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: testimony from the previous trial. Only one witness, Clyde Dunaway, 206 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: testified about seeing Emerson's pickup near Mary's house, but the 207 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: crime lab technician repeated his previous testimony about the hair 208 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: in the truck, and Detective Riley testified again about Emerson's statements. 209 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: During the second trial, Emerson's lawyer put on his alibi 210 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: witnesses again, and Emerson himself took the stand. He tried 211 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: to explain that he was innocent, that he hadn't actually 212 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: pulled over near Mary's house that night. He'd only said 213 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: that to satisfy his interrogator. Prosecutors pounced, you admit to 214 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: us you lied, They asked, yes, I told that, Emerson 215 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: answered Later he quietly added, I'm not a smart person. 216 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: The case wasn't any stronger than at the first trial, 217 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: But this time the jury reached a verdict and Emerson 218 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Stevens was sentenced to a prison term of one hundred 219 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: and sixty four years. Fast forward to two thousand and two. 220 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: During those sixteen years behind bars, Emerson earned his ged. 221 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: He worked in the dusty prison wood shop, building furniture 222 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: for state institutions. He wrote letters constantly to his family 223 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: and to lawyers, begging for help with his case. When 224 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: he wasn't working or writing, Emerson would dream about the 225 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: smell of the shore. He wondered if he'd ever be 226 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: on the water again. In April two thousand and two, 227 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: Emerson's attention was caught by a news story about a 228 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: genteel Virginia lady named Beverly Monroe. Beverly was a professional 229 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: chemist whose upper middle class background seemed worlds away from Emerson, 230 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: at least at first you see. Ten years earlier, fifty 231 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: five year old Beverly had been dating a wealthy real 232 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: estate mogul named Roger de la Bird. Roger lived on 233 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: a massive estate in Virginia Horse Country. He claimed to 234 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: be an art dealer who was descended from European nobility. 235 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: But when Roger turned up dead one morning from a 236 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: gunshot wound, police suspected Beverly of murder, even though she'd 237 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: never had so much as a traffic ticket. The case 238 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: against Beverly was absurd from day one. Beverly had a 239 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: grocery store receipt proving she hadn't been at Roger's estate 240 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: at the time he died, and Roger's death had been 241 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: ruled a suicide. Turns out his life was falling apart. 242 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: The FBI was investigating him for art fraud, and his 243 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: claims of nobility were also being exposed as phony. But 244 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: Beverly ended up being wrongly convicted of Roger's murder anyway. 245 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: Why because in part of Detective David Riley, the same 246 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: officer who'd built the case against Emerson Stevens. When Detective 247 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: Riley interrogated Beverly, she refused to admit to something she 248 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: didn't do, but Riley administered a polygraph and told Beverly 249 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: she failed it, and then he suggested that she must 250 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: have been present when Roger shot himself. Detective Riley seems 251 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: to have manipulated Beverly into placing herself at the scene 252 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: of the crime, just like he seems to have done 253 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: with Emerson. The similarities are unmistakable. 254 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: Beverly Monroe was wrongfully convicted based on inculpatory statements that 255 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: placed her at the crime scene, and Riley then built 256 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: his case around that statement to make it look like 257 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: this wasn't a suicide at all, that this was a murder. 258 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: It's amazing, just like Emerson, Beverly never confessed to anything. 259 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: Same detective using the same modus operandi in order to 260 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: get not a false confession, but a false inculpatory statement 261 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: that was used to convict them and send them away 262 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: for crimes they did not commit. 263 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: A federal judge later called Riley's interrogation of Beverly Monroe 264 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: deceitful and manipulative. Even so, Beverly ended up serving ten 265 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: years in prison before her conviction was thrown out and 266 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: she was released in April two thousand and two. That 267 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: news story Emerson saw on TV from behind bars was 268 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: about Beverly's first moments of freedom. Emerson didn't waste a minute. 269 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: He immediately wrote to Beverly's lawyer, who agreed to take 270 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: his case and When Beverly herself heard about Emerson, she 271 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: got involved too. 272 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: She went to the lawyers that had just exonerated her 273 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: and said, now you need to do it again for 274 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: this other guy, which, you know, to their credit, they did. 275 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: They tried to reinvestigate as much as they could, and 276 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: then when it became clear that they were sort of 277 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: losing steam, Beverly turned her sights to me. 278 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: That's Deirdre Enwright, the director of the University of Virginia's 279 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: Innocence Project Clinic. She's one of the lawyers Beverly enlisted 280 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: to join Emerson's legal team. 281 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: Emerson, you know, he had been trying for years, writing 282 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: to people about his case and begging for help. And 283 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: if you ever meet or speak to Beverly, you will 284 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: learn that you will do anything that Beverly says to do, 285 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: because she's absolutely charming but also absolutely compelling. 286 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: Beverly made it something of. 287 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: A mission to help other people who were convicted by 288 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: the evidence collected by the same detective. 289 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: With Beverly's help, Emerson now had a top notch legal team. 290 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: And while the lawyers got to work, Beverly and Emerson 291 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: began corresponding. 292 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: Beverly is not only college educated, but she's a chemist 293 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: and she lived a very extravagant life with her partner 294 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: before this all happened. And Emerson is this waterman who 295 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: grew up with his nine siblings in Lancaster. I mean, 296 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: this is the classic thing that happens in these wrongful 297 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: conviction cases, is that people who would never in a 298 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: lifetime be near each other or connect do. 299 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: Beverly and Emerson became friends. Beverly sendsed how much this 300 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: fisherman longed for the water, and started sending him photographs 301 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: of the place he missed most, the Chesapeake Bay. 302 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: She was hyper aware of taking care of him while 303 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 3: he was incarcerated so he didn't feel abandoned, writing and 304 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 3: calling and making sure he had money in his commissary 305 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: and holidays and birthdays. And I remember thinking, she knows 306 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: what he's feeling better than any of us. I think 307 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: that Emerson, once he had Beverly, he knew that there 308 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: was another person out there who was advocating for him ferociously. 309 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: I mean, most people who. 310 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: Are incarcerated don't have that person. And because she was 311 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 3: so smart and because she had been through it, she 312 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: wasn't going to hear that it couldn't be done. 313 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: While Beverly was keeping Emerson's hope alive, his legal team 314 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: was systematically unwinding the case against him, and, as it 315 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: turned out, one piece of faulty evidence after another seemed 316 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: to lead back to Detective Riley. First up was the 317 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: claim that witnesses had seen a white pickup truck like 318 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: Emerson's near Mary's house. A woman named Anne Dick had 319 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: testified to that effect at the first trial, but her 320 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: story had changed by the time of the second trial. 321 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: There she swore that the person she saw driving the 322 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: truck was not Emerson. Stevens when asked why she didn't 323 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: say that to the first jury, and answered because Detective 324 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: Riley told me not to. The other pickup truck witness, 325 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: Clyde Dunaway Well, turns out he came forward only after 326 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: police offered a twenty thousand dollars reward for information. He 327 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: asked Detective Riley about the money during their very first conversation, 328 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: but at Emerson's second trial, Dunaway swore he never asked 329 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: anyone about the reward. Now Detective Riley was sitting in 330 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: the courtroom listening to this, he must have known Dunaway 331 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: was lying, but the detective never said a word. Eventually, 332 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: Dunaway paid a price for his false testimony in Emerson 333 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: Stephens case. He ended up pleading guilty to obstruction of justice. 334 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 3: Once you dangle reward money, especially in a place like 335 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 3: Lancaster where there's a lot of people living very much 336 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 3: on a margin, the fact that Clyde Dunaway bit on that. 337 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 4: Is hardly surprising. 338 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: He repeatedly inquired about when am I going to get 339 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: that money, and the detective would say, only after you testify. 340 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: The upshot of the investigation is that Clyde Dunaway got 341 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: in trouble and our dirty detective, who sat on that 342 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: information during both trials, walked away unscathed. 343 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 4: The little guy got it as usual. 344 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: Next up was the bizarre claim that Mary's bodies cinder 345 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: block and all floated upstream ten miles. That marine scientist 346 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: who testified at the first trial, remember he was mia 347 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: at the second trial. Prosecutors had to read the jury 348 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: a transcript of his previous testimony. Why didn't he show 349 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: up the second time? Well, Emerson's lawyers found a letter 350 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: from the scientist to the prosecutor that provided a pretty 351 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: clear explanation. After the first trial, the scientist wrote, Lieutenant 352 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: Riley applied what maybe the correct term to my testimony 353 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: in this case. He called it eyewash. Eyewash is Virginia 354 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: slang for bullshit. 355 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: Ugh God, the marine scientist, it's clear that the science 356 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: that he put forth at this trial wasn't real. Even 357 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: Detective Riley called this theory eyewash. 358 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: Why a marine biologist went along with that the first time, 359 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: I have no idea, But by the second time he 360 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 3: clearly did not want. 361 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 4: To do it and thought it was dirty. 362 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 5: Right. 363 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: That's what his letter suggested, is you're asking me to 364 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: do something that's nonsensical. 365 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: Suddenly there was reason to believe that Detective Riley had 366 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: jinned up some of the evidence against Emerson, and it 367 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: seems that Riley tried to take it even further. The 368 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: owner of a Lancaster convenience store gave Emerson's lawyers a 369 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: sworn statement that reads as follows. Detective Riley tried to 370 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: get me to say that Emerson Stevens woke me up 371 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night that Mary Harding disappeared 372 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: so that he could buy five gallons of gas. Detective 373 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Riley was extremely aggressive and pushy insisting that I agree 374 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: with his story even though it was not true. Was 375 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: never woken up in the middle of the night by 376 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: Emerson Stevens. Ever, for any. 377 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: Reason, none of these pieces are the puzzle actually fit together. 378 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: They were all manipulated by this detective so that they 379 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: fit his theory that Emerson was guilty of this crime. 380 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: Now that's the eyewash. 381 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: The rest of the case crumbled too. Remember the theory 382 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: that Emerson used his knife to slash Mary's back. A 383 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: new assessment by the medical examiner showed that those evenly 384 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: spaced gashes were probably made by a boat propeller, not 385 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: by a human with a knife. And finally, what about 386 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: the hair from Emerson's truck. Back in nineteen eighty five, 387 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: the crime lab had put that hair under a microscope 388 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: and claimed that it was an exact match to Mary. 389 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: This technique, known as hair microscopy, has since been debunked. 390 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: There's no way you can match hairs with that level 391 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: of certainty just by looking through a microscope. In fact, 392 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: more than seventy people have been exonerated after Bogus's hair 393 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: evidence was used to convict them. 394 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: There's just nothing to the science that you can microscopically 395 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: compare hairs and identify anybody. We've had cases where people 396 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: say that this is a human hair belonging to this victim, 397 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: and it belongs to a dog. Even according to the FBI, 398 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: hair microscopy is junk science. 399 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: Decades later, Emerson's lawyers sought DNA testing, but it turned 400 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: out the hair was too old to test. In other words, 401 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: there's no way to know who it belonged to. It 402 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: could have been Mary's, or Emerson's, or Emerson's wife's, it 403 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: could have been anybody's. Armed with this new information, Emerson's 404 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: lawyers filed a post conviction petition in twenty sixteen asking 405 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: for his conviction to be thrown out, but it hasn't 406 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: been yet. This is where Emerson's legal case has stalled. 407 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: Despite skilled lawyers and compelling evidence of innocence, The courts 408 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: have denied histition at every turn. But there has been 409 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: one important victory. On May nineteenth, twenty seventeen, Emerson Stevens 410 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: was paroled from prison. He'd spent thirty one years behind bars. 411 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 3: His family filled the lobby of the correctional center, which 412 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: is almost always absolutely empty, and then we came with students. 413 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 3: And people who had been working on this case for years. 414 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: We all hopped into cars and we asked Emerson where 415 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 3: he would like to have his first free meal. 416 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: So what was the fisherman craving after more than three 417 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: decades of prison food. 418 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 3: Emerson very quickly told us that he wanted to go 419 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: to Cracker Barrel and he wanted the. 420 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 6: Seafood platter at Cracker Barrel. And I don't argue with 421 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 6: anyone who wants that. 422 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: Like a tide that might never come back in Emerson. 423 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: Stephen's life ebbed for thirty one years as he sat 424 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: behind bars. Now his life is flowing again. 425 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 6: You know, he's done such a great job of getting 426 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 6: out and just sort of sliding back in to his life, 427 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 6: moving back in, seeing family, going back to work immediately 428 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 6: being a great worker. So in that part of his life, 429 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 6: he's done a really wonderful job. 430 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, he's still a convicted murderer, 431 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: and that burden weighs on him every day. 432 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 6: I think he feels that until he is cleared and 433 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 6: other people are exposed, his life is. 434 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: On hold until that happens. At least Emerson gets to 435 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: see his kids and his grandkids he's back out on 436 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: the water and his small aluminum boat, feeling the breeze 437 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: on his face. 438 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: I just said to him, the only thing you owe 439 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: me is a trip to go oystering, and he will 440 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: be good for that. 441 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 4: I know it. 442 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: I've been to a Stephen's cookout, and you know what 443 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: they do is go crab and fish and come back 444 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: and cook it all up in the yard and have 445 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 3: huge tables of food and it's delicious. 446 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: The case against Emerson Stephens has taken years to unwind. 447 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: Sometimes fighting cases this thin can be rangely hard, almost 448 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: like you're shadow boxing a ghost. 449 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: Emerson should be pardoned, and Emerson's innocence needs to be 450 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: recognized by the governor of the state of Virginia. 451 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 6: In cases like this, it's just never the slam dunk 452 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 6: that it should be. We immediately applied for an absolute pardon, 453 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 6: which would exonerate him totally, and he pretty quickly got 454 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 6: a letter that said, thanks for your petition, we probably 455 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 6: won't be able to get to this for two years, 456 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 6: and don't bother us. In the meantime. For Emerson to 457 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 6: be pardoned would mean that he gets an absolute clean slate, 458 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 6: and it's a gateway to maybe proving what people did 459 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 6: to get him convicted. For people like him, you need that, 460 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 6: you need the real story to be told. 461 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: For her part, Beverly Monroe, now in her eighties, still 462 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: supports Emerson, still talks to him regularly by phone, still 463 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: is waiting for the day he'll be exonerated. We're waiting 464 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: to Emerson, and we stand with you all the way. 465 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: Hey is this Emerson? Yes, yes, Hey Emerson, It's Laura 466 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: Ny writer and Steve Drisson. 467 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 4: How are you? 468 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 5: I'm doing good? 469 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: So tell me Emerson, what have you been doing these days? 470 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: How have you been keeping yourself busy? 471 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 5: Uh? Well, my oldest brother he asked me if I 472 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 5: would take his boat and get all this craft pops up. 473 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 5: So I did that. 474 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, how was it? 475 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 5: Oh? 476 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: It felt great. 477 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 5: It felt great being abaccoat on the water again. And 478 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 5: then he wants me to go yestring with him. 479 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: You know, so I'm. 480 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 5: Thinking about it. I want to buy purchase a boat 481 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 5: of my own, you know, like my brothers got, and 482 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 5: be able to work on the water again. 483 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: You know, what would you name your boat, Emerson? 484 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 5: Well, these type of boats you don't really put names 485 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 5: on them. But I don't know, misfit or something. 486 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's times that are enjoyable and wonderful, 487 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: you're with your family, you're back out on the water. 488 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: And there's times that are hard too, I'm sure. 489 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah. I lost my oldest daughter when I 490 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 5: was in prison. She died at the age of forty, 491 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 5: and that broke my heart. It's not a day that 492 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 5: don't go by that I don't think about her. 493 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: You know. 494 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, Emerson. Yeah, yeah, Well, she's looking down 495 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: from somewhere, I hope, and rooting for you, just like 496 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: the rest of us. 497 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 5: Are. 498 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: Are you still in touch with Beverly? 499 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 5: Oh? Beverly, She's been my number one fan. You know, 500 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 5: She's always believed in me, and she's great. She's a 501 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 5: great person. Every now and then I tetch her or 502 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 5: call and talk to them, but she loves to talk now. 503 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: She loves to. 504 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: Talk to support Emerson Stevens. You can write the Governor 505 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: of Virginia and ask him to grant Emerson in absolute pardon. 506 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: You can find the address on my Instagram page at 507 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Laura Nywriter. And that's the story of Emerson Stevens. Join 508 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: us next week when we tell you about a Philadelphia 509 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: man named Walter Ogrod. Walter spent decades on death row 510 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: until a new generation of prosecutors came to Philadelphia. They 511 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: brought reform to the city and hope to Walter. 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