Speaker 1: God's time to say your legs.
Speaker 2: The girls prison sits there. We will sit in tows
Speaker 2: the garner up Wednesday, August third, Peter. That's also known
Speaker 2: as the day after the trade deadline. We're recording this
Speaker 2: on the evening of August second. It was so much fun.
Speaker 2: We're not even general managers and we're draine just trying
Speaker 2: to keep up with what all the general managers as
Speaker 2: we're doing.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you did, but I forgot about
Speaker 3: food and water basically the whole day. And after we
Speaker 3: finished our stream on YouTube, and we were streaming on TikTok,
Speaker 3: you know our guys, you know Elijah Ethan, Ryan Cole.
Speaker 3: I mean, so many people over here just baseball, updating
Speaker 3: the website NonStop, and we're gonna go over all the
Speaker 3: moves from the website. But man, I almost collapsed afterwards realizing,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, I have an eight. I don't think
Speaker 3: I've had a full glass of water all day. But man,
Speaker 3: what a day.
Speaker 2: It was so funny. It was we were just stimulated
Speaker 2: at all times. It was you know what was nice
Speaker 2: was yesterday was like the appetizer, right. It started to
Speaker 2: heat up in the afternoon. Jack and I tackled a
Speaker 2: lot of what went down on yesterday's kind of appetizer
Speaker 2: to the deadline, but today was nuts and Juan Soto
Speaker 2: we knew was the big domino that needed to fall
Speaker 2: before everything else started to fall into place. But it
Speaker 2: was up until the buzzer, or really after the buzzer,
Speaker 2: that we had several other trades go in. We're going
Speaker 2: to try to hit on every single trade if we can.
Speaker 2: We'll probably miss some minor moves here and there. We
Speaker 2: might not give the Luke Weaver trade as much time.
Speaker 3: But crazy thing is on yesterday's podcast, you literally did
Speaker 3: give it some time.
Speaker 2: So that's how crazy we are.
Speaker 3: We're saying that we're not going to go over all
Speaker 3: the minor moves, but you know we're going to sneak
Speaker 3: them in here because we have a storyline with each
Speaker 3: most likely like yeah, Luke Weaver Paul Goldschmith trade, remember that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Which is crazy. That guy did not pan out the
Speaker 2: way I think we thought he would, nor the Diamondbacks thought,
Speaker 2: and of course the Royals go out and get another arm.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk a lot about Juan Soda, but
Speaker 2: I think we got to start with your guy Robbie
Speaker 2: Grossman who heads over to the Braves. And it's so
Speaker 2: funny because we were talking about it from this perspective,
Speaker 2: who was going to be the player that gets acquired,
Speaker 2: that does what the Braves pieces did last year. Didn't
Speaker 2: necessarily have to be a guy to the Braves, but
Speaker 2: we were using the example of Solaer and the example
Speaker 2: of Rosario and how the Braves were able to kind
Speaker 2: of pick up guys that got hot at the right time.
Speaker 2: You identified Robbie Grossman, and funny enough, Robbie Grossman ends
Speaker 2: up being the guy that the Braves bring into town.
Speaker 2: Definitely a big help with Adam Duvall out for season
Speaker 2: and with Rosario seeming like he just is not right
Speaker 2: after coming back from a couple of different injuries and
Speaker 2: dealing with an eye issue as well, so hoping he
Speaker 2: gets better. But Grossman a very very good pickup for them.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, there were five players who had
Speaker 3: twenty home runs, twenty stolen bases, and a walk rate
Speaker 3: over ten percent. Robbie Grossman was one of those five,
Speaker 3: along with Shoheo Tani, Fernando Tatis, Junior, Jose Ramirez, and
Speaker 3: I forget the fourth.
Speaker 2: But here's probably good.
Speaker 3: He was probably good, pretty good type of company that
Speaker 3: Robbie Grossman was in. Now Robbie Grossman is not going
Speaker 3: to give you that level of production and he has
Speaker 3: not shown that level of production.
Speaker 2: Again this year.
Speaker 3: But remember Eddie Rosario was not that good before he
Speaker 3: came over the Braves. Jorge Solaire I felt like was
Speaker 3: striking out at a forty percent rate before he went
Speaker 3: over to the Braves. And then Eddie Rosario becomes the NLCSMVP,
Speaker 3: followed suit by Jorge Solaire who becomes the World Series MVP.
Speaker 3: I believe that was the most underrated deal at the deadline.
Speaker 3: They didn't give up much and they got a guy
Speaker 3: who has that level of potential. And it's not just
Speaker 3: that Robbie Grossman hasn't been playing that well this season.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the Tigers a little bit
Speaker 3: farther in this episode, and right now, it seems like
Speaker 3: the Tigers woes is organizationally right. Nobody in their lineup
Speaker 3: is playing well, not one. So you go through it
Speaker 3: and you think maybe a change of scenery can get
Speaker 3: a Robbie Grossman back to at least close to that
Speaker 3: level of potential he showed last year that level of production.
Speaker 3: I really like the move for the Braves adds a
Speaker 3: ton of depth there. He's not gonna wow you on
Speaker 3: the base pass. He's not gonna wow you in the
Speaker 3: outfield either, but he's gonna give you consistent good at
Speaker 3: bats and come playoff time, I think he's going to
Speaker 3: be I think he's going to make a difference there
Speaker 3: in Atlanta. I love the move there for the Braves,
Speaker 3: and it makes sense, right. You feel like they're the
Speaker 3: kings of finding the diamonds in the rough at some
Speaker 3: of these points, and I believe they found one in
Speaker 3: Robbie Grossman.
Speaker 2: Oh, you talk about the struggles in Detroit. I mean
Speaker 2: it's from the veterans. It's from guys that we were
Speaker 2: expecting to make big leaps, from Heimer Condolario to Spencer
Speaker 2: Torkos into even Riley Green, you know who has slowed
Speaker 2: down a little bit since getting up there. Habi baias
Speaker 2: the big prize free agent. Everyone has struggled. So I
Speaker 2: think getting out of there is definitely something that should help.
Speaker 2: And of course we know it's a difficult place to hit.
Speaker 2: The Braves also add Jacob Deerizi, which I think is
Speaker 2: an underrated pitching depth kind of acquisition as well. They
Speaker 2: swap him for Will Smith. That's some reliever help for
Speaker 2: the Astros. Well, two contending teams in opposite leagues help
Speaker 2: each other, and I think that's that's a low key
Speaker 2: move that could be quite helpful. Do you want to
Speaker 2: go straight into Soto or it's kind of stick with
Speaker 2: the smaller moves and save Sodo for last.
Speaker 3: Let's save it a little bit because that was an
Speaker 3: interesting move there too, because they did give up Will
Speaker 3: Smith for Jake Odorizzy in that deal, but then they
Speaker 3: got rossil Iglesias. We might as well just cover this
Speaker 3: team now, because these were some very interesting moves here
Speaker 3: by Alex Tantopolis, who seems to just have it up here.
Speaker 3: He just went over the Austin Riley extension. I mean,
Speaker 3: great deal for both sides, and another one. Will Smith
Speaker 3: is a good reliever. But I would say they upgraded
Speaker 3: there with Vasila Glacias and then they get a guy
Speaker 3: like Jake Odorizzy who's probably not going to pitch you know,
Speaker 3: Game four of the of the World series, but you
Speaker 3: never know, right, Because Tucker Davidson even had to slot
Speaker 3: in in Game five as the starter. Jake Odoizzy has
Speaker 3: been there, done that. He's a good addition. Then they
Speaker 3: upgrade in the bullpen. Braves didn't have a super exciting deadline.
Speaker 3: They didn't need to be a very good one, I thought. No,
Speaker 3: I agree, they didn't need to do anything crazy. Team's
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: They already made their biggest addition they needed internally, which
Speaker 2: was calling up Michael Harrison and having him perform Strider.
Speaker 2: Is kind of satisfied a need for them. They only
Speaker 2: needed to make some of those small moves. Oder Rizzy's
Speaker 2: really going to help them in the regular season too.
Speaker 2: You talk about him not taking the ball in a
Speaker 2: Game four of the World Series. I agree, but that's
Speaker 2: a guy that kneed Ennings, you know, in relief spots
Speaker 2: or you know, if you have to start him in
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you can. But he's going to help them
Speaker 2: get through, you know, the rest of this regular season,
Speaker 2: because they struggled a little bit with keeping the rotation
Speaker 2: together and at times have had some vacant spots there.
Speaker 2: I really like what they did with the bullpen. You
Speaker 2: assume Kenley Jansen's going to be back soon. Riise Ella
Speaker 2: Glacias I mean, there's a lot of guys you trust
Speaker 2: there and Will Smith has struggled for them, so I
Speaker 2: think I agree it's a good swap, and they're a
Speaker 2: better team than they were prior to the deadline. They
Speaker 2: didn't need to make any crazy moves and they're gonna
Speaker 2: be another threat just like they were last year.
Speaker 3: And also just the lefty righty stuff. I mean, Will
Speaker 3: Smith is a lefty, Mintor is a lefti Matsik is
Speaker 3: a lefty. They get a righty in return in ross
Speaker 3: A Iglesias, which they didn't have a ton outside of
Speaker 3: Kenley Jansen. Just overall, Alexanthopolis again is proving he's one
Speaker 3: of the best gems in the sport.
Speaker 2: Oh we talked about that in the last episode. He
Speaker 2: is just amazing. And whether it's the small moves, the
Speaker 2: big moves, the extensions, the pre arms signing, it's all
Speaker 2: really good stuff from Alexanthopolis. And I think maybe Alavila,
Speaker 2: like he talked about on the last game, could take
Speaker 2: a note or two or a thing or two from
Speaker 2: what Alexanthopolis is doing in bo and Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Tigers for a second, because we
Speaker 3: have a ton of big moves. Of course we're going
Speaker 3: to get into but let's cover the Tigers for a second.
Speaker 3: I think the most disappointing team of the deadline. You
Speaker 3: might be a Cardinals fan and be disappointed in your
Speaker 3: team too. You could be a Blue Jays fan disappointed.
Speaker 3: I'd understand if you're disappointed as a Guardians fan. And
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about White Sox. I mean, we
Speaker 3: can talk all day, but the Tigers. You have so
Speaker 3: many bullpen pieces. You have so many pieces that you
Speaker 3: could end up dealing on offense, even starting pitching, you
Speaker 3: could have gotten rid of, like a Michael Pineda for example.
Speaker 3: You did really nothing. You gave away Michael Fulmer in
Speaker 3: a deal that you know, you know, I'd throw it
Speaker 3: over to you for the prospects. But I can guess
Speaker 3: that they didn't do a very good job there, just
Speaker 3: in hindsight, just assuming what the Tigers have been up
Speaker 3: to lately. You know, they didn't deal Chafin, they didn't
Speaker 3: deal Soda, they didn't deal Joejamenez. They dealt Robbie Grossman,
Speaker 3: who I believe maybe you should have kept as one
Speaker 3: of the better offensive players on your team. The Tigers, again,
Speaker 3: we were talking in the live stream. I would never
Speaker 3: want to call for a general manager's job. Alaviland never
Speaker 3: want to call for a general manager job. So I'm
Speaker 3: just not going to say anything. I think that leaves
Speaker 3: it at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little ro in Detroit, and they were
Speaker 2: open to make a big step in the right direction.
Speaker 2: That's why they signed Hobby Baias. But it's it's not
Speaker 2: looking that working. No, not good, and the prospects are
Speaker 2: not performing and they've got a lot to figure out
Speaker 2: in a lot of overhauling, I think to do within
Speaker 2: the system. You look at the Brewers. They subtract Josh Hater,
Speaker 2: which we talked about in the last episode. They get
Speaker 2: a good return, but it was a head scratcher because
Speaker 2: it's a first place team trading an all star closer.
Speaker 2: But they do add another reliever, and we know Devin
Speaker 2: Williams is a capable closer. Although did you see that
Speaker 2: clip of Devin Williams in the clubhouse? They were reporters
Speaker 2: were asking him what he thought about the trade, and
Speaker 2: obviously he's he's expected to be that the closer now
Speaker 2: and he didn't seem thrilled about it. He's not thrilled
Speaker 2: that he's going to be the closer. He's not thrilled,
Speaker 2: he's just upset that Josh Hater, one of the integral
Speaker 2: parts of their team, has been subtracted. And I thought
Speaker 2: that was pretty pretty interesting to see. He said I
Speaker 2: want to win, and I think that was all he
Speaker 2: really needed to say.
Speaker 3: I think it was there. It was one of those
Speaker 3: press conferences that you have to watch Devin Williams say
Speaker 3: the words. If you listen to it on the radio,
Speaker 3: it may have come off as maybe a little nonchalant.
Speaker 3: Not nonchalant, but just you know, he's not very vocal.
Speaker 3: He's not calling out anybody. He's just kind of sitting there.
Speaker 3: Depressed is the word.
Speaker 2: The silence was deafening.
Speaker 3: The short islence was deafening. That is the perfect way
Speaker 3: to describe it. He's just shrugging his shoulders, thinking to himself,
Speaker 3: how could they do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to win. And this is a guy that,
Speaker 2: remember he feels like he cost his team last postseason
Speaker 2: with punching the wall and you know, breaking his hand,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he's very keen on winning now. And
Speaker 2: they subtract Hater, they do add Matt Bush, and I
Speaker 2: love Matt Bush's story. Obviously, the former number one overall
Speaker 2: pick is a shortstop makes his way back after a
Speaker 2: time in jail. I mean, just an unbelievable story. It's
Speaker 2: been a really good reliever and he's enjoying a really
Speaker 2: good year this year. Brewers at him to the fold
Speaker 2: and now of Williams Rogers Bush. They still have a
Speaker 2: good back end of that bullpen there and it helps.
Speaker 2: He's not Josh hater, but it's a good addition. And
Speaker 2: you know they didn't have to give up too much
Speaker 2: to get him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's be real armed. Come on, what did
Speaker 3: the Brewers need to do and what didn't they do?
Speaker 3: The Brewers needed to add a fucking bat? Yeah, and
Speaker 3: what didn't they do? Add a bat? Yeah, and we're
Speaker 3: going to talk about how the padres.
Speaker 2: And they just didn't do it.
Speaker 3: And you know, for lack of a better word, the
Speaker 3: Brewers didn't add a fucking bat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's all we have to say about that.
Speaker 2: All they did was add a story. Ruiz, who you know,
Speaker 2: is a is a minor leaguer at this point, he's
Speaker 2: played a little bit in the bigs. Long term, could
Speaker 2: be a good piece, But I think they're hoping that
Speaker 2: he can impact them now and do something now, which
Speaker 2: is which is crazy. I don't know how the Brewers
Speaker 2: didn't add a bat. It's a little bit surprising, but
Speaker 2: I will say they are sneaky good if you look
Speaker 2: at runs per game, better than people would have expected.
Speaker 2: I want to rephrase one thing I said. I actually
Speaker 2: said that they didn't give up that much. Let me
Speaker 2: reverse that. I was surprised that they gave up Antoine.
Speaker 2: Kelly pitched in the futures game, probably a reliever long term,
Speaker 2: but a lefty who is really nasty, came back from
Speaker 2: an injury and they part with him to get a
Speaker 2: Matt Bush. So a good get there for the Texas Rangers.
Speaker 2: We'll stay on the reliever track. Peter another kind of surprising,
Speaker 2: but not maybe maybe not awe striking, but we didn't
Speaker 2: know what the Orioles were going to do. They ultimately
Speaker 2: part with their closer in Jorge Lopez, an All Star
Speaker 2: this year for four minor leaguers Kaide Povich the headliner,
Speaker 2: and Yennier Cano, Juan Nunez and Juan Rojas. It's a
Speaker 2: good return. It's four pitchers, which again Baltimore needs arms,
Speaker 2: and they added six arms or so at this deadline,
Speaker 2: and some really good ones. I like this move for Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Of course, you want to see them go for it.
Speaker 2: They didn't burn it down right. They traded Mancini, who
Speaker 2: was going to be gone probably in the offseason. They
Speaker 2: sell high on a closer, and they get six pitching prospects,
Speaker 2: which again they really needed. There's still a good team that.
Speaker 2: Let's be real, even if they sneak in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: what are they doing there? They're trying to build sustainable success.
Speaker 2: As much as I wanted to see them go all in,
Speaker 2: I don't hate it.
Speaker 3: I do wish the Orioles got a more marquee prospect
Speaker 3: in return for Jorge Lopez. In my opinion, I don't
Speaker 3: think they need that much depth, because, oh my god,
Speaker 3: do they have depth. I mean, they have one of
Speaker 3: the most vast farm systems in baseball. I look at
Speaker 3: that trade and I think, to myself, are any of
Speaker 3: those guys big leaguers?
Speaker 2: You know? I don't know.
Speaker 3: You hope so. But I feel like in a trade
Speaker 3: for Jorge Lopez, even one marquee prospect, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: would have been better. In a deal like that, if
Speaker 3: we're talking about a team like the Royals or you
Speaker 3: know another team that needs.
Speaker 2: Depth like that. I don't feel that the Orioles need
Speaker 2: depth like that. Need arms here, they need arms. So
Speaker 2: they just went out and got Seth right in the
Speaker 2: trainman scene. He's the third best pitching prospect now, So
Speaker 2: you know, I think they look at it and we
Speaker 2: need pitching depth in this system. Let's get it while
Speaker 2: we can without depleting, you know, some of our better
Speaker 2: assets because everybody else is too valuable and controllable. These
Speaker 2: are the guys that I think they're okay with parting with,
Speaker 2: but I don't hate it.
Speaker 3: Do you think would you have rather them got the
Speaker 3: like a Seth Johnson in a deal like that for
Speaker 3: a Jorge Lopez or do you prefer they got more
Speaker 3: four lottery ticket guys where you're hoping one could be
Speaker 3: a big leaguer instead of one of the best pitching
Speaker 3: prospects for the Minnesota Twins. Because I thought the Minnesota
Speaker 3: Twins did really well in that deal.
Speaker 2: You know, I I think I think povich Is is
Speaker 2: a big league arm right. I mean, this guy's probably
Speaker 2: in their top twenty. Put up some good numbers this year.
Speaker 2: It's tough to gauge the value on a breakout reliever
Speaker 2: like that, so I agree, like, if they could have
Speaker 2: got one guy, absolutely I would have had I would
Speaker 2: have went quality over quantity. I don't know if that
Speaker 2: was an option there, That's my point. It could have
Speaker 2: not been an option. That's kind of where I was at.
Speaker 2: But I'm good with them getting arms. They're in a
Speaker 2: situation where I'm like, if you can get arms, get
Speaker 2: freaking arms. And they did, so they're still in a
Speaker 2: good spot. I think they can still make a little
Speaker 2: bit of an Orioles push, and I think they might
Speaker 2: call up some other guys to reinforce this run here,
Speaker 2: and I'm kind of excited to see how they decide
Speaker 2: to manage Gunner Henderson and Triple A and Jordan Westberg
Speaker 2: and Triple A and Kyle Stowers and Triple A. They've
Speaker 2: got a lot of prospects that could be some reinforcements
Speaker 2: down the stretch here.
Speaker 3: And then on the Twins side, they did real well.
Speaker 3: I mean, getting Jorge Lopez, who is having that breakout
Speaker 3: yere who looks like a real closer, maybe not playoff
Speaker 3: type closer, but at least a very very good bullpen arm.
Speaker 3: And then if he can't close, you get Michael Fulmer too.
Speaker 3: So they did a great job. And we can even
Speaker 3: get into Tyler Malley if we want to just go
Speaker 3: straight into their let's just twins, because yeah, I might
Speaker 3: as well just do twins because they get Tyler Malley.
Speaker 3: And this was an arm at the deadline that I
Speaker 3: thought a lot of teams should be in on, and
Speaker 3: a lot of teams were in on him because it
Speaker 3: was clear with Tyler Malley he couldn't pitch a great American,
Speaker 3: which I've said up before is basically a space station.
Speaker 3: You're basically dealing with another version of coors Field. He's
Speaker 3: always had these crazy splits where he's pitched much better
Speaker 3: on the road.
Speaker 2: You get him out.
Speaker 3: But it seems like the prospect package they did give up,
Speaker 3: at least going back to the Reds was pretty sizable.
Speaker 3: But the Twins are in a good position now, especially
Speaker 3: with the other teams in their division not making it.
Speaker 3: But the prospects that went over are pretty solid, especially
Speaker 3: that young second basement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they get Spencer Steer, who you know,
Speaker 2: I love Steer for the Reds. Right, this is a
Speaker 2: guy with above average power, but hits so much that
Speaker 2: he produces a lot of home runs and has said
Speaker 2: over twenty home runs already this season. I love guys
Speaker 2: like that. John India was kind of in that same
Speaker 2: ballpark where it's above average power but will really play
Speaker 2: up at Great American. He's also again close to big
Speaker 2: league ready. And then they get Christian and Carnassio on Strand, who,
Speaker 2: holy crap, does he have power. Twenty five pumps this
Speaker 2: year he won four to eighty four. He has nine
Speaker 2: home runs four hundred and twenty feet or further. And
Speaker 2: then Steven Hager, who is Michigan guy, really has looked
Speaker 2: good left handed pitcher. All guys that the Twins are
Speaker 2: okay with parting with right like. None of those guys are elite,
Speaker 2: elite prospects for them. Steers kind of blocked with the
Speaker 2: emergence of Miranda. With the other guys that they have,
Speaker 2: it's a perfect trade for both sides. Red system is
Speaker 2: now clear cut top three in my opinion, and they
Speaker 2: get somebody that can help the big league team as
Speaker 2: soon as this year, probably for sure next year. I'm
Speaker 2: sure he'll get caught up before the end of the season.
Speaker 2: But man, dude, the Twins, they really separated themselves. We
Speaker 2: talk about the Guardians didn't do anything the Twins. You
Speaker 2: mentioned the relievers. They get the starter, they didn't really
Speaker 2: need any bats that they're fine coosing. Miranda's going nuclear
Speaker 2: right now. That's all they really needed to do, and
Speaker 2: they shore up with kind of all the questions that
Speaker 2: we had for them. What do you think the Twins
Speaker 2: are at now? I mean, I think they're going to
Speaker 2: easily win the division because Guardians were asleep at the wheel,
Speaker 2: But where do you think they stack up with some
Speaker 2: of the best teams in the AL. They're obviously not
Speaker 2: there with the Yankees and the Astros, but they made
Speaker 2: themselves a lot better and I think they've got a
Speaker 2: shot to make some noise.
Speaker 3: My problem with the Twins is I didn't really believe
Speaker 3: in their pitching, both in the starting rotation and in
Speaker 3: the bullpen. What did they do address both needs?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: In the bullpen they look really strong. Starting rotation Tyler
Speaker 3: Mallley is, like I said, a good pick up there,
Speaker 3: but still looking at this rotation, I'm not totally sold
Speaker 3: to the fact where I'm going to put them with
Speaker 3: the Yankees and the Astros. Like we said, I still
Speaker 3: do think that the Blue Jays are better. I think
Speaker 3: the Mariners separated themselves. But besides that, they're right there
Speaker 3: with the Rays, and I do think that they're going
Speaker 3: to win the division now and that they're going to
Speaker 3: make it a tough series again to team like the Mariners,
Speaker 3: because I still do think they have a better offense
Speaker 3: than the Mariners do. With the Blue Jays, you know
Speaker 3: that one might be tough. The Blue Jays might be
Speaker 3: better than them. I'd probably say that they are. But still,
Speaker 3: the Twins went from oh yeah, they're an exit first
Speaker 3: round to know they're going to compete in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I agree. You know, when you go from pitching Dylan
Speaker 2: Bundy in Game three to Tyler Mallley or you know,
Speaker 2: Joe Ryan, however you want to stack it up, that's
Speaker 2: a big difference. It's a big, big, big difference. So
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about what's happening with the Twins. And again,
Speaker 2: it's just better for baseball when teams like Minnesota, teams
Speaker 2: like Seattle I wish Cleveland would have went for it,
Speaker 2: are trying to put themselves in that same conversation and
Speaker 2: make themselves competitive. The best part about the offense too,
Speaker 2: is I love the balance. You have a bat to
Speaker 2: ball guy like a Ray Is, you have a big
Speaker 2: time big bopper like Byron Buckston who's dynamic, and then Korea.
Speaker 2: I still really think is going to get going here
Speaker 2: down the stretch. And we know he's one of the
Speaker 2: best postseason players already ever, which is crazy given how
Speaker 2: many games he's played. He's been one of the best
Speaker 2: postseason players we've seen. By the time he's done playing,
Speaker 2: he will be one of the all time leaders in
Speaker 2: almost every postseason statistic for shorts. Tops will be there
Speaker 2: with Derek Jeter, I think, because he's going to continue
Speaker 2: to get there. And now the Twins but very serious,
Speaker 2: excuse me, so I'm really excited to see, you know,
Speaker 2: what their long term plan is with him and what
Speaker 2: he ultimately does. But right now the Twins are going
Speaker 2: for it, and I think they're trying to convince him
Speaker 2: to stay. So Wan Soto time, it's Won Sodo time.
Speaker 2: I mean, we said it, we thought Proer was gonna
Speaker 2: do it. He does it. It was a haul, It
Speaker 2: was a pretty penny. It sounded like that the Cardinals
Speaker 2: were down to the wire as well. So we're the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: Cardinals didn't want to part with the top prospects and
Speaker 2: Dylan Carlson say what you want about that. The Padres
Speaker 2: were willing to do whatever it took, and the full
Speaker 2: trade breakdown is pretty wild and it's almost exactly what
Speaker 2: everybody thought it would be, though, which is the funny part.
Speaker 2: Give or take, you know, a couple maybe different guys
Speaker 2: here or there, but it's pretty wild that it was
Speaker 2: basically exactly what we thought it would be with all
Speaker 2: of the pieces. It's headlined by c j Abrams and
Speaker 2: Mackenzie Gore, Robert Hassel the Third, James Wood, Harlan Susana,
Speaker 2: and then also Luke Voit. We've never seen a prospect
Speaker 2: and just overall return like that for a player. Obviously
Speaker 2: Josh Bell included in that too, but we've never seen
Speaker 2: a return like that in baseball history.
Speaker 3: The biggest trade in baseball history, I've heard, you know,
Speaker 3: you can talk about the Ruth trade, but that was
Speaker 3: a sale at the end of the day. That was
Speaker 3: Babe Ruth being sold to the Yankees for about one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars in order to get a theater production
Speaker 3: off the ground. If I'm not mistaken. You could go
Speaker 3: through history and find them Galcabrera trade in two thousand
Speaker 3: and six. You could find a lot of other trades
Speaker 3: like that. But this is trading for a young Hank Aaron.
Speaker 3: This is trading for a young Won Soto. This is
Speaker 3: a player on the trajectory towards the Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: and Arm. I'm gonna rant here for a second because
Speaker 3: I'm kind of pissed off at the Nationals. Why I
Speaker 3: think they got fleeced. Did not fleeced, of course, not fleeced,
Speaker 3: But I do think that you could have gotten all
Speaker 3: of those different prospects for Juan Soto by himself. I
Speaker 3: say why Nationals because they included then Josh Bell in
Speaker 3: the deal also, and I feel that they could have
Speaker 3: put Josh Bell in another package in order to get
Speaker 3: more prospects in the deal. Like do you think that
Speaker 3: the Padres if Mike Rizzo, the GM at the Nationals,
Speaker 3: said we want Gore Abrams Wood Hassle for Juan Soto,
Speaker 3: would they have said no? Probably not. Then you could
Speaker 3: have gotten another top one hundred prospect, maybe even a
Speaker 3: top fifty prospect for a guy like Josh Bell. I
Speaker 3: know he's a rental, but he's still one of the
Speaker 3: best switch hitters in the entire sport. We saw what
Speaker 3: was being floated for Wilson Contreres, like Josh Bell has been,
Speaker 3: if not better of a hitter than Wilson Contreras. I
Speaker 3: was sitting here thinking why, why why? Because they added
Speaker 3: Josh Bell on top of it. Was it an enormous package? Yes,
Speaker 3: but I thought the Padres easily won this deal. Well.
Speaker 2: I mean, anytime you get a Hall of a guy
Speaker 2: that's good looking, like a Hall of Fame or you're
Speaker 2: gonna win the deal. But you know, I don't think
Speaker 2: Josh Bell gets you that crazy of a return. He's good,
Speaker 2: but Wilson Contreras is a catcher, Josh Bell's first base
Speaker 2: slash dh at. He probably gets you a maybe one
Speaker 2: fringe top one hundred guy. I really don't think he
Speaker 2: gets you that much. I'll get JD. Martinez. He doesn't
Speaker 2: end up getting moved because they feel like the competitive
Speaker 2: balance pick that they're going to to get basically for
Speaker 2: the QO, for the qualifying offers better. I think they
Speaker 2: made out great. I don't know how you could ever
Speaker 2: get more than this. Sure, if you separate Bell, you know,
Speaker 2: you can maybe squeeze out another prospect, But they also
Speaker 2: get Luke Voyd. And I know Luke Void's not the
Speaker 2: sexiest player in the world, but he's under control until
Speaker 2: what twenty twenty five, so they could flip him down
Speaker 2: the line as well.
Speaker 3: But does he factor much into the plans either. I
Speaker 3: guess I'm under the assumption that I thought Josh Bell
Speaker 3: would get more of a return than a fringe top
Speaker 3: one hundred because I think we talked about top switch
Speaker 3: hitters in baseball and he was number two. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's hitting over three hundred. He seems to be a
Speaker 3: force in the lineup. He's gonna hit fourth for the Padres.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a great addition for
Speaker 3: them too, Like Josh Bell is a clear upgrade over
Speaker 3: Luke Voight. And I just thought that you could have
Speaker 3: gotten that package for Sodo by himself, and that if
Speaker 3: Mike Rozo really wanted to trade Josh Bell, then he'd
Speaker 3: probably get a top seventy five type aspect for a
Speaker 3: Josh Bell.
Speaker 2: I think there's a reason why we didn't say c
Speaker 2: JD c JD moved or Contraras moved or hat moved.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I think there's the return
Speaker 2: was not Maybe is Bell is better than all of
Speaker 2: them right now as a bat then JD Martinez.
Speaker 3: JD Martinez is swinging hurt right now. He has really
Speaker 3: kind of fallen quickly. You know, he's in three forty
Speaker 3: a little while ago, and it seems like he hasn't
Speaker 3: really been able to hit it all lately. I you know,
Speaker 3: you know, we've been talking to Red Sox guys too.
Speaker 3: You know, we hold our Twitter space and we have
Speaker 3: a lot of Red Sox fans, and it's like, I
Speaker 3: want to take JD. Martinez basis because I think he's
Speaker 3: going to break out of it. And I'm just consistently
Speaker 3: told from Red Sox fans don't do it, dude, Like don't,
Speaker 3: don't do it. He is swinging hurt and he does
Speaker 3: not look like the same guy. And Josh Bell is
Speaker 3: probably the worst space runner in baseball, at least by
Speaker 3: the numbers he is, but I think that he's he
Speaker 3: was a better bat than Wilson Contreras at least right now.
Speaker 3: And I think he's a better bat than JD. Martinez
Speaker 3: is right now. Josh Bell is one of the better
Speaker 3: hitters in the National League this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's been solid, but again it's a
Speaker 2: DH so he's limited again. But that's also for the
Speaker 2: most part, I think splitting hairs because you're getting what
Speaker 2: is the biggest return in baseball history. So you're getting
Speaker 2: a controllable young starter in Mackenzie Gore. You're getting a
Speaker 2: top twenty five prospect in Robert Hassel, You're getting a
Speaker 2: top ten prospect in tj. Abrams, you're getting a top
Speaker 2: fifty or sixty prospect in James Wood, a quality prospect
Speaker 2: in Harlan and Susana, and then Luke Voyd, who you
Speaker 2: could probably flip for, you know, a middle level prospect
Speaker 2: down the line. I don't know how you could do
Speaker 2: much better than that.
Speaker 3: Honestly, Yes, the Nationals, I mean they didn't get fleeced.
Speaker 3: I said that as more for dramatic effect, but it's
Speaker 3: just because I was pretty emotional after seeing the trade.
Speaker 3: Because we both know this too that normally in baseball
Speaker 3: you can count on one hand the trades where you
Speaker 3: traded away a super superstar, got back a big pile
Speaker 3: of prospects and it ended up not working out for
Speaker 3: the team that got the big super superstar. That's I
Speaker 3: guess where I'm coming from too, And then you added
Speaker 3: Josh Bell on top of it.
Speaker 2: What would have been a return that was that would suffice?
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know all of the returns. That's
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, if the Cardinals were didn't want to
Speaker 3: trade Jordan Walker, that was clear because they believe that,
Speaker 3: you know, he could be the next Airon Judge. But
Speaker 3: I don't know what the rest of the packages were, like,
Speaker 3: for example, from the Dodgers, if they got a Gavin
Speaker 3: Lux and you know, four of their top prospects, you know,
Speaker 3: Bobby Miller, Michael Bush, Miguel Vargas, I.
Speaker 2: Like this package better, Okay, you know, I trust you.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that that that felt like to me
Speaker 3: at least with a CJ. Abrams he could be he
Speaker 3: could be end up being much better than a Gavin Lux.
Speaker 3: But but it's you know, Gavin Lux was the number
Speaker 3: two overall prospect for a little while and seems to
Speaker 3: be he's been bring it out in LA and CJ.
Speaker 3: Abrams just doesn't look completely ready yet. And Mackenzie Gore
Speaker 3: has just been dealing with shoulder stuff and it's worrisome
Speaker 3: because he has looked elite and can be elite. But
Speaker 3: I'm looking at him coming over to Washington like I
Speaker 3: hope they can then, you know, kind of fix him
Speaker 3: around and hopefully they make him good. But it's not
Speaker 3: like they've been that great with pitching development lately either,
Speaker 3: you know, with James Wood.
Speaker 2: Is still far off and Robert Hassel.
Speaker 3: I do think it's gonna be good, Like clearly, I
Speaker 3: think he's gonna be good too, But you know, I
Speaker 3: just think that the Nationals are Yeah, the Nationals weirdly
Speaker 3: could have done better in this deal and they gave
Speaker 3: up Josh Bell because if that was the package just
Speaker 3: for Wan Soto, very big trade, good all around. But
Speaker 3: the thing is for me throwing in Josh Bell. I
Speaker 3: feel like he has more value than maybe you think,
Speaker 3: and maybe we just might disagree on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, it's it's tough with the d H guys.
Speaker 2: You know, teams are weird about it. But I agree.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's in all leads now, I agree, but
Speaker 2: it's weird JG doesn't get traded like why why not?
Speaker 2: I think when you look at the ultimate like the
Speaker 2: return in general, it's one of those things where you're
Speaker 2: never gonna get the value for Juan Soto. You're never
Speaker 2: it's just never gonna happen. You're gonna lose when you
Speaker 2: trade one Soto. It's a guaranteed loss almost unless these
Speaker 2: guys all reach their their absolute ceiling. And I know
Speaker 2: James Wood's ceiling is is cragit Aaron Judge, but he
Speaker 2: is so far off from that. Like there's so many
Speaker 2: things that can happen. You're taking your best shot. And
Speaker 2: I'd assume that the Nationals took the best offer, and
Speaker 2: I just floored that the Padres again make that move.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Padres real quick from that lens,
Speaker 2: and then I want to talk Joey Gallow real quick.
Speaker 2: The Padres. Now they become freakish. It's insane what they
Speaker 2: are now. Uh that three four five two three four
Speaker 2: whatever it's gonna be of Sodo, Tatis, Machado and now
Speaker 2: Josh Bell even, I mean that stacks up with just
Speaker 2: about anybody in baseball.
Speaker 3: They're unbelievable. Now they're probably still gonna be a wild
Speaker 3: card team. And the getting Fernando Tatis Junior back and
Speaker 3: healthy and looking like Fernando Tacis Junior is also.
Speaker 2: Huge for them.
Speaker 3: But if you look and now they have Josh Hater
Speaker 3: closing games for them and in the playoffs, he's gonna
Speaker 3: be used a ton. And who else do you want
Speaker 3: besides Josh Hater? Maybe Edwin Diaz right now, but over
Speaker 3: the past couple of years, Josh Hater has been that guy.
Speaker 2: And still in the back end, that's who you want.
Speaker 3: But you work in now with you know, Joe Musgrove
Speaker 3: and you Darvish and Blake Snell, and then you have
Speaker 3: Josh Hater in the back end. And with the one, two,
Speaker 3: three four of Fernando Tashis Junior, one Soto, Manny Machado,
Speaker 3: then Josh Bell, it's hard to beat. And you know,
Speaker 3: I was saying, Cardinals versus Padres, who would you rather want?
Speaker 3: And this was obviously before the deadline, But now, I
Speaker 3: mean it's is it even close?
Speaker 2: Is not?
Speaker 3: Evenudrezy blew them away? And the Cardinals had more of
Speaker 3: a lackluster deadline. I mean, they didn't do bad, but
Speaker 3: they definitely didn't separate themselves. And now the Padres put
Speaker 3: themselves right there with the Astros, the Yankees, the Dodgers,
Speaker 3: and the Mets and the Braves as one of the
Speaker 3: premier teams who can definitely win a World Series.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And we'll get to the Cardinals in a second,
Speaker 2: cause they didn't make some lower key moves. And a
Speaker 2: familiar face for you is heading over to Saint Louis,
Speaker 2: but real quick, a familiar face is heading out. Joey Gallo.
Speaker 2: We knew what was happening. You know. I was reading
Speaker 2: some stories interviews with Joey Gallo and they made me sad. Peter,
Speaker 2: I mean you you have been very fair, So I'm
Speaker 2: not when I mentioned Yankees fans has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with you, but you know, I think we really lose
Speaker 2: touch with the human side of things. And Joey Gallows saying,
Speaker 2: and I'm paraphrasing, but saying that he doesn't really leave
Speaker 2: his home or his apartment in New York because he
Speaker 2: doesn't want to be seen on the streets and he's
Speaker 2: embarrassed and he feels, you know, he's he's more upset
Speaker 2: than any Yankee fan is about what's going on. You
Speaker 2: get mad at Joey Gallo after watching the game, then
Speaker 2: you go on with your life. Joey Gallow's got to
Speaker 2: live that struggle and feel that struggle day to day.
Speaker 2: And I know he's making a lot of money to
Speaker 2: play a kid's game, but it is overwhelming when you
Speaker 2: have an entire city, you know, and the big Apple
Speaker 2: you know on your back. I'm excited for Joey Gallo
Speaker 2: to get another chance. I'm rooting for him and I
Speaker 2: hope he does well. But from a trade perspective, Yankees
Speaker 2: get a good arm Clayton beaters electric, big swing and
Speaker 2: miss stuff walks a lot of guys, probably a reliever.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm just it's good to see the
Speaker 2: Yankees getting armed back because they did trade a lot
Speaker 2: of arms out over the last couple of days. And
Speaker 2: the way they've developed guys, Beeter could be similar to
Speaker 2: the way they've been able to Maybe hone in Medina's
Speaker 2: command a little bit, maybe they can do it with Peter.
Speaker 2: If not, they've got Oh why is a good type
Speaker 2: of reliever. I think he could be.
Speaker 3: In short spurts, I was almost thinking he's kind of
Speaker 3: like a Ron Marty Nacho, Yeah type of reliever. That's
Speaker 3: that's kind of how I was phrasing it, you know.
Speaker 3: On TikTok Live, I was like, Who's this Clayton Beeter guy.
Speaker 3: And I said, just think Ron Mardy Nacho. That's kind
Speaker 3: of the guy that you got back, maybe a younger version.
Speaker 3: Maybe he won't be as good because Marie Nacho's stuff.
Speaker 3: He's a freak show, fucking believable. He's a feel wisea
Speaker 3: is a better kind of guy like that. Maybe you
Speaker 3: know Lewisca started for a little bit but just didn't
Speaker 3: have the command, couldn't hold the vello. Maybe that's a
Speaker 3: Clayton beat. Maybe his velo even ticks up as more
Speaker 3: of just a dominant bullpen arm. And yes, Joey Gallo
Speaker 3: is gone. He's not a Yankee anymore. And Yankee fans
Speaker 3: are probably happy about that, and Joey Gallo is probably
Speaker 3: happy exactly.
Speaker 2: And but at the same time he goes to Lost Angel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not that much easier of a market I was
Speaker 2: thinking about, not really.
Speaker 3: And they're gonna be in big time spots too. I mean,
Speaker 3: Joey Gallo was great on the Rangers. If Joey Gallo
Speaker 3: went to a team that probably won't make the playoffs,
Speaker 3: you'd probably see.
Speaker 2: Joey Galla return or even Milwaukee.
Speaker 3: Or even Milwaukee, a team like that even the Twins. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he goes right back into the thick of it
Speaker 3: across the country with fans who are not just forgiving.
Speaker 3: I mean, as much as chill LA is, it's not
Speaker 3: that chill when you see fifty thousand fans packed every
Speaker 3: single night expecting greatness.
Speaker 2: Yeh.
Speaker 3: So I'm interested to see how gallow does. But it's
Speaker 3: also the Dodgers. Yeah, the Dodgers who can unlock anybody.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Yankees have been able to unlock basically everybody.
Speaker 3: Matt Carpenter has as many home runs as Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 3: That stat in itself is nuts. But a change of scene,
Speaker 3: new set of eyes, new ideology and.
Speaker 2: Hitting coaches and like, let's be real, Joey Gallo has
Speaker 2: always been a swing and miss guy. But Joey Gallo
Speaker 2: has proven that he is a competent big league power
Speaker 2: hitter and that's still in there. He's not thirty six
Speaker 2: slowing down. There's just there's something off mentally, and I
Speaker 2: think just change of scenery will help. And I think
Speaker 2: a little bit less responsibility. I don't think he's going
Speaker 2: to be playing every single day and expected to do
Speaker 2: what the Yankees were expecting him to do in the
Speaker 2: early going. I know his role was diminished, but at
Speaker 2: that point it's still you're in the same spot and
Speaker 2: you're trying to fight back to what you were supposed
Speaker 2: to do. I'm excited to see what he's gonna do
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers. It's a low risk acquisition for them
Speaker 2: and hopefully, you know, the defense will kind of tick
Speaker 2: back up again and he can at least provide some
Speaker 2: value there. But really a no brainer move for both sides,
Speaker 2: and I think both sides are better off after the trades,
Speaker 2: so does not hurt for either team. Don't to get
Speaker 2: to the Cardinals, get to the Cardinals. Before we just
Speaker 2: get to the Cardinals.
Speaker 3: I do want to just quickly wrap up on the
Speaker 3: Soto thing because I feel like we were ending and
Speaker 3: I didn't ask you this follow up question, like do
Speaker 3: you think that the Nationals did as much as they
Speaker 3: could and that not that they didn't lose the trade?
Speaker 3: I guess do you think the Padres won the trade?
Speaker 3: Like what's your take back, because of course they got
Speaker 3: back the biggest prospect package of all.
Speaker 2: Time, and as they should have.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking to myself, I feel like they could
Speaker 3: have even gotten more in this deal because James Wood
Speaker 3: is such a lottery ticket, could be Aaron Judge, could
Speaker 3: never make the majors. We don't know yet, and with
Speaker 3: all the question marks I guess surrounding Mackenzie Gore, I
Speaker 3: just thought to myself, I feel like the Padres definitely
Speaker 3: won this deal, but maybe to you you feel like
Speaker 3: it was more even sided than I do, because we
Speaker 3: have different opinions, and that's cool, that's fun.
Speaker 2: I think anytime you trade a Hall of Famer, you're
Speaker 2: going to lose the trade. I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: the second the National were ready to trade Juan Soto,
Speaker 2: they lost right, But they had to trade him. It
Speaker 2: seemed like that that he wasn't even going to be
Speaker 2: a guy that they were able to keep anymore. And
Speaker 2: you know, for Gore, it's like a low grade elbowst train.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're like extremely concerned about that. I
Speaker 2: think he should be fine. He proved to be able
Speaker 2: to pitch pretty darn well at the big league level.
Speaker 2: But again, when you're getting Hassel Gore and then Wood,
Speaker 2: who John Hayman said was a big, big sticking point
Speaker 2: in these conversations because the Padres really like him, and
Speaker 2: the Nationals very much wanted him. If the Nationals could
Speaker 2: have done better, they would have. You know, you are
Speaker 2: dangling the most valuable trade chip to really ever hit
Speaker 2: the open market. Everybody's putting in their best offers. That
Speaker 2: was the best offer, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you got to take it. And I think it was
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good haul. Again, we've never seen anything
Speaker 2: like that. I'll take a lot of money on Robert
Speaker 2: Hassel being a decent big leiguer, take a lot of
Speaker 2: money on c. J. Abrams being a decent big leiguer.
Speaker 2: And I'd put a lot of money on Kenzie Gore
Speaker 2: being a decent big league starter. You get three big
Speaker 2: leaguers in a trade that's usually pretty damn good. And
Speaker 2: whatever James Wood can be is really exciting. That's your flyer.
Speaker 2: And then again, we'll see what they do with Luke Void.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a big power bad if he can
Speaker 2: get going, maybe they trade him next deadline, maybe they
Speaker 2: trade him in the off season. We'll see what they
Speaker 2: get for him. And Susanas no slouch either. I think
Speaker 2: they did the best they could and that's all you
Speaker 2: can really do. There's only so many teams that are
Speaker 2: even capable of putting a package together like this, that's fair.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: Also with Gore, I mean he finished or he didn't finish,
Speaker 3: because he's probably going to pitch again this season, I
Speaker 3: guess for the Nationals.
Speaker 2: But he had a four or five zero era.
Speaker 3: He wasn't carving through the major leagues in his first
Speaker 3: you know, cup of coffee in the bigs. But I'm
Speaker 3: also not going to judge him on that. I do
Speaker 3: also think that he could be a really good starter
Speaker 3: in this league. I guess I'm just more worried about
Speaker 3: him long term, especially going over to Washington. And you know,
Speaker 3: I like Abrams a lot, that's clear. I like Hassle
Speaker 3: a lot that's clear. I just think James Wood could
Speaker 3: be amazing or could flounder. I don't know much about
Speaker 3: the young kid that they got. And then Luke Vod
Speaker 3: I feel like, is not going to be a difference maker.
Speaker 3: I look at a team like the Cardinals, even not
Speaker 3: giving up Jordan Walker, you know, if they were to
Speaker 3: include Mason Win, Dylan Carlson, Matthew Libertwort, Nolan Gorman, I
Speaker 3: almost I don't know, and maybe then another piece on
Speaker 3: top of that. I don't know if that trade is
Speaker 3: better than what the Padres could have given them, but
Speaker 3: a lot of people are high on the Padres prospects
Speaker 3: too well.
Speaker 2: And the thing too, though, is the reports were that
Speaker 2: the Cardinals were not willing to part with Carlson and
Speaker 2: the top prospects. So I thought it was just Jordan
Speaker 2: Walker that they were not willing to part. It was
Speaker 2: Carlson and the time it was one or the other.
Speaker 2: So you're getting you're getting Walker and you're not getting Carlson,
Speaker 2: or you're getting Carlson and you're not getting Walker, And
Speaker 2: that was where they wouldn't budge, and that's why he
Speaker 2: is a Padre. So yeah, I think if they would
Speaker 2: have offered that, maybe we would have saw something different.
Speaker 2: But ultimately, the Cardinals, as we've talked about now for
Speaker 2: like a year, just won't borrow with their guys. Man,
Speaker 2: if they won't do it for Juan Soto, I don't
Speaker 2: think they do it for anybody on Earth. But at
Speaker 2: least they got close and they considered it. They did
Speaker 2: make some smaller moves though, and they go out and
Speaker 2: get Jose Kingtana, which we talked about at the end
Speaker 2: of the episode. It happened literally as we recorded at
Speaker 2: the end of yesterday's episode. But then they went and
Speaker 2: got your boy Jamon and Jaymon struggled. But he's a
Speaker 2: really good pitcher. You've said that for a while. I
Speaker 2: agree with you, and the more you know, I've continued
Speaker 2: to watch this guy. He's steady Eddiots. That's what's a
Speaker 2: little bit surprising that he struggled a bit as of late.
Speaker 2: I mean, you you can talk about this more. The
Speaker 2: four is yours, but I think the Cardinals are getting
Speaker 2: a pretty good middle of the rotation starter here when
Speaker 2: he's right.
Speaker 3: So here's the reaction from Twitter. And sometimes you know,
Speaker 3: Twitter is Twitter at the end of the day, but
Speaker 3: you can hear raw fans emotion and I think for
Speaker 3: both sides this sentiment will make you feel good about
Speaker 3: it who you're getting. Yankee Twitter is very upset of
Speaker 3: trading Jordan Montal that's good. Cardinals Twitter is very upset
Speaker 3: about trading Harrison Bader. Harrison Bader clearly will now slot
Speaker 3: in as the best defensive outfielder that the Yankees have
Speaker 3: outside of Jose Travino, probably the best defender on their roster.
Speaker 2: He is that good in centerfield.
Speaker 3: When we say gold glove caliber, just gold glove level.
Speaker 3: One of the best defensive center fielders and will be
Speaker 3: in an average bat And I do think that he'll
Speaker 3: be back in time for October, because I've heard middle
Speaker 3: of September, late September is when he's supposed to be back.
Speaker 3: He's really there for October. Now, who are the Cardinals getting?
Speaker 3: Just like you said, Steady Eddie, almost what you kind
Speaker 3: of hope Matthew Liberator will be exactew Liberator.
Speaker 2: You'd he's becoming for Steven matt or Steven Matt's.
Speaker 3: But more than likely Liberaltre will be a Jordan Montgomery type.
Speaker 3: What's a Jordan Montgomery type? Five six innings, a three
Speaker 3: seven era, and a guy who you can consistently rely
Speaker 3: on to not blow up. That's what Jordan Montgomery gives
Speaker 3: you in a great on a great team, He's probably
Speaker 3: a four. On a good team, he's a three. He
Speaker 3: can throw in the playoffs for you. He's going to
Speaker 3: be better than a good amount of the arms that
Speaker 3: they have currently. He gives them a steady presence that
Speaker 3: the Cardinals really do need. So on both sides, I
Speaker 3: like the deal, even though both sides are reluctant to
Speaker 3: give up those players, and that's a perfect indication of
Speaker 3: how each player means to their fan base.
Speaker 2: You hit the nail on the head. I mean, this
Speaker 2: was a trade that they can don't tap into theirs,
Speaker 2: which is just funny, but this was a much needed
Speaker 2: piece for them. I mean, you can't feel good about
Speaker 2: some of the guys that they were rolling out there,
Speaker 2: and especially with Matts's injury issues and just not being
Speaker 2: good when he's on the field, Liberator just not looking
Speaker 2: quite ready. Jamon is going to help them kind of
Speaker 2: get across the finish line and hopefully make the playoffs
Speaker 2: three six nine ERA three nine to one fit last
Speaker 2: year at three eight three ERA three six nine FIT.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he gives you. He throws strikes,
Speaker 2: he doesn't walk guys, and they needed that. My concern
Speaker 2: is this, Peter. They're going to get through the regular
Speaker 2: season just fine, I think, and Jaymon's going to be
Speaker 2: a big part of that. But you again can speak
Speaker 2: to this, who do you trust in the postseason? I
Speaker 2: trust Wayno, I really do. I do trust Wayno in
Speaker 2: the postseason. It's crazy we still do. And like that's
Speaker 2: the first name that comes to our mind. That's he's
Speaker 2: a fucking forty year old. Adam Wayne Wright is the
Speaker 2: first name I drop as who we trust out of
Speaker 2: this rush blinking, I'm not even blinking. No, that's the guy.
Speaker 2: He gets the ball game one right as he should.
Speaker 3: I mean, Michaelis has pitched better than he has this year,
Speaker 3: but it's still Adam Wayne Wright and he's still got
Speaker 3: what a low three z R? Michaelis is even under three,
Speaker 3: it's a very solid two right there. Then you add
Speaker 3: a guy like Jordan Montgomery and Steven Matts and hopefully
Speaker 3: you can get Flaherty back in time for the playoff run.
Speaker 3: You know, Polante has showed that he can at least
Speaker 3: give you valuable innings. Whether you want him starting a
Speaker 3: playoff game is another question. And then at least he
Speaker 3: could be a swing swing man. And then yeah, I
Speaker 3: was just Jose Cantata as well. This is a rotation
Speaker 3: where nobody jumps out at you as the ace.
Speaker 2: But they filled the holes at least, But you don't
Speaker 2: have a day off, yeah, which they had some days
Speaker 2: off before. Who are watching some Jordan Hicks starts? I
Speaker 2: would was that a game I went to with you like,
Speaker 2: we watched Jordan hickstar and I'm like, he's not a starter.
Speaker 2: He's not a starter, So it's just it's just one
Speaker 2: of those things. So I am. I am really happy
Speaker 2: that they made those moves. Polante can now be more
Speaker 2: of that swing man, as you said, less responsibility there.
Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna have to start like all
Speaker 2: the time, and that doesn't seem like that's going to
Speaker 2: be the case. So better off there. Cardinals look a
Speaker 2: lot better and one more pitcher. Dakota Hudson, who we
Speaker 2: talk about a lot in betting, and you know, I'm
Speaker 2: not gambling advice. You'll probably hear me if he gets
Speaker 2: more starts this year. He is one of the major
Speaker 2: candidates in baseball for massive negative regression. I almost wish
Speaker 2: Colby was in the same room as you, like he
Speaker 2: was at the National when he was able to talk
Speaker 2: to Jack and go over the Red Sox stuff, because
Speaker 2: Colby is the ultimate fade to cut up Dakota Hudson
Speaker 2: when you can. He just had a tough start against
Speaker 2: this Nationals team. Yeah, they had Bell and Soto, but
Speaker 2: if you look at the difference in era to XCRA,
Speaker 2: you look at walk rates, you look at strikeout rates.
Speaker 2: Dakota Hudson is a guy who relies on a lot
Speaker 2: of soft contact, and lucky for him, he is the
Speaker 2: best defense ever by exactly. But you put him on
Speaker 2: another team and he's probably not a guy you want
Speaker 2: to trust. So the reason when I was going through
Speaker 2: all the starters and I didn't add him in is because,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, you don't want him throwing invaluable innings.
Speaker 2: Could he be good in, you know, a middle relief role.
Speaker 2: Could he take Could he of course fill some innings
Speaker 2: for you guys in the regular season, definitely, But come
Speaker 2: playoff time, I do not want Dakota Hudson facing a
Speaker 2: Mets lineup, a Braves lineup, a Dodgers lineup, and you
Speaker 2: know what a Brewers lineup he could probably carve through. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the regular season numbers might be good, but we saw
Speaker 2: them in the playoffs last year and there's really nobody
Speaker 2: in their lineup where I'm oh. I mean, Yelich has
Speaker 2: been good and a Damas has been good. But Renfro
Speaker 2: hit some home runs against the Red Sox on his
Speaker 2: revenge tour, but like McCutcheon hits fourth and I love McCutcheon.
Speaker 2: But it's Andrew McCutchen at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like just being honest here. I off no, not at all.
Speaker 2: And dude, I freaking trust Polonte more than I trust Hudson,
Speaker 2: I think at this point, which is.
Speaker 3: Not even a bad take, which is pretty crazy, I think,
Speaker 3: is he cal poly guy?
Speaker 2: He's selling California. No, he's Irvine, Irvine. All those California
Speaker 2: schools turn out so many dudes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dustin said he saw him at Irvine and he's like,
Speaker 3: this dude's filthy.
Speaker 2: It's there's so many schools that just turn out dudes.
Speaker 2: But Phillies, they're a team that's now looking a lot
Speaker 2: better and they're going to make a push for the
Speaker 2: wild card as well that they're staying afloat without Bryce Harper,
Speaker 2: and that was enough to inspire the always aggressive Dave
Speaker 2: Dombrowski to be aggressive. They trade their top catching prospect
Speaker 2: and one of their top overall prospects. In logan o'happy
Speaker 2: probably would have been it will be a top one
Speaker 2: hundred guy. In our update for Brandon Marsh, that caught
Speaker 2: me off guard. I don't think anybody was expecting Marsh
Speaker 2: to be moved. Ultimately he gets moved. The Angels get
Speaker 2: their catcher probably of the future, and a guy that's
Speaker 2: very close to big league ready. The Phillies get a
Speaker 2: guy that I think they're buying low on twenty four
Speaker 2: years old. I've long liked him as a prospect. Really
Speaker 2: struggling offensively this year, but an elite defender with good speed.
Speaker 2: They don't need him to hit the crap out of
Speaker 2: the ball. He satisfies a really big need for them,
Speaker 2: and I think the offense will tick up just kind
Speaker 2: of getting out of La. You talk about tough environments.
Speaker 2: Something's just going on over there. Just get him out
Speaker 2: of there. I think he's going to be better obviously
Speaker 2: short Porch and right in Philadelphia as well.
Speaker 3: I'm relying on you for the Brandon Marsh because I
Speaker 3: just never saw a lot of the in the minor
Speaker 3: leagues from the small you know, videos and a little
Speaker 3: bit like I saw a little bit of Brandon Marsh
Speaker 3: and thought, oh, he could be a pretty good big leaguer,
Speaker 3: Like it seems like he's got everything kind of figured out,
Speaker 3: but then he really really struggled at the big league level.
Speaker 3: To your point, I do agree that maybe a change
Speaker 3: in scenery would help, you know, link it up with
Speaker 3: some of those hitters there in Philly. But he also
Speaker 3: was linked up with some of those hitters in Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: with Mike Trout and Shojo Taani. Maybe a change of
Speaker 3: scenery makes sense? Or is he never going to be
Speaker 3: the player that we thought he would be? But to
Speaker 3: your point, you know, I'm trusting you on this. It's
Speaker 3: not like, of course, I'll trust you on this. You've
Speaker 3: been insanely good, but I just at the big league level,
Speaker 3: I never fell in love with Brandon Marsh.
Speaker 2: Not yet, not yet. It's been rough. But how about
Speaker 2: this eight nine outs above average in the outfield, which
Speaker 2: he needs so badly, which they need so bad. So
Speaker 2: of all of them, the outs above average, Yeah, they
Speaker 2: need all the out he might get them back in
Speaker 2: the positives. Right. So from that perspective, let's say, I
Speaker 2: want your thoughts on this, because we don't know what
Speaker 2: he's gonna do offensively this year. I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: get better again. He's twenty four years old. But let's
Speaker 2: say he continues to hit roughly two forty three hundred
Speaker 2: three sixty and puts up a ninety WRC plus, but
Speaker 2: he plays that kind of defense. This is a net
Speaker 2: positive for the Phillies or is it kind of meh
Speaker 2: net positive for the Phillies.
Speaker 3: I'm curious though, because jt rol Muto ages by the
Speaker 3: day and he hasn't been the same jtu roal Muto
Speaker 3: that he has been.
Speaker 2: Did they give up too much in your seal? It
Speaker 2: was surprising to see O Hopy go. I thought they
Speaker 2: would trade him, maybe in a larger deal. It's worth asking.
Speaker 2: Uh Remuto at least is showing some signs of life
Speaker 2: again and yet solid, but it is it is worth asking.
Speaker 2: He's a thirty one year old catcher who's very dependent
Speaker 2: on his athleticism, and Hoppy's like their only guy back there.
Speaker 2: I think it's Dave Dombrowski and he's like, well, cross
Speaker 2: that bridge when we'll fucking get there, because that's what
Speaker 2: he does. But no, I think that's a valid question, dude,
Speaker 2: like that is a good catching prospect, a top one
Speaker 2: hundred guy. His numbers have been phenomenal, but they satisfy
Speaker 2: a need.
Speaker 3: And I looked at this O Hoppy guy because I
Speaker 3: didn't know much about him either, and I was like, damn.
Speaker 2: Looks got a good numbers. Like, I've seen video of him.
Speaker 3: I'd seen him before, but never really did a deep dive,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, he's hit it ever level and
Speaker 3: he seems to be a good defender. And maybe I'm
Speaker 3: a little bit more down on Brandon Marsh than you are.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 3: So but I guess for the Angels, I like to
Speaker 3: trade for them.
Speaker 2: Good for them, right, I mean, it's just with the
Speaker 2: questions around Mike Trout and his ability to play center
Speaker 2: field long term, Joe Adell not performing, it is a
Speaker 2: really interesting spot for them. But again, I think they
Speaker 2: satisfy the catching rule. The numbers talk about his performance
Speaker 2: this year two sixty nine, three eighty five, four to
Speaker 2: ninety two in Double A. He has sixteen home runs
Speaker 2: in eighty games this year. Is really good production for
Speaker 2: a catcher, and he's he's at least an average or
Speaker 2: better defender. It's a great get for the Angels, but again,
Speaker 2: the Phillies do improve in an area where they will
Speaker 2: really needed to improve. One other spot where they needed
Speaker 2: to improve was pitching, and they go out and get
Speaker 2: Noah Cindergard, who is not the thoor that he once was.
Speaker 2: But this is a guy that is still a good
Speaker 2: pitcher to add to your rotation, and you know, you
Speaker 2: move him in there with Kyle Gibson. Who do you
Speaker 2: put first, Gibson or Cindergard. Who's the three out of
Speaker 2: those two? I know it's very uninspiring. I would maybe
Speaker 2: lean Gibson. But at least they get a guy here
Speaker 2: that slots in at the number four or number three,
Speaker 2: however you want to stack him up and their rotation
Speaker 2: is a little bit more fortified. I didn't want Noah
Speaker 2: Cyndergard on my team. That's fine. For what they gave
Speaker 2: up was Mickey Montiac, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: Whatever, who clearly wasn't working in Philly. Yes he has
Speaker 3: the pedigree of a number one overall pick, but it
Speaker 3: just he hasn't really shown much. Not that they got
Speaker 3: him for free, because that's unfair to Mickey Moniac, because
Speaker 3: who knows, maybe he could find something in La. So
Speaker 3: what they did was add a five starter in my mind.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just from watching Noahs Cyinderguard this year.
Speaker 3: One thing about Noahs Sinderguard is he cannot hold on
Speaker 3: a runner. I know that doesn't mean a lot, but
Speaker 3: the amount of stolen bases off this guy is incredible.
Speaker 3: I felt like the Phillies needed to add a Jose Cantana. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Phillies needed to add a bigger time starter than Noah Cyinderguard.
Speaker 3: Noahs Cyderguard doesn't move the needle for me. Noah cynder
Speaker 3: Guard doesn't give me more confidence in the Phillies starting
Speaker 3: rotation than almost adding nobody. And I know that's again unfair,
Speaker 3: because Noahs Cinderguard will give you better innings than maybe
Speaker 3: some other guys have. Even the Ranger Suarez has looked
Speaker 3: better lately. But still I don't look at Noah's Cyindergarden
Speaker 3: and think, Okay, now I have confidence in the Phillies rotation.
Speaker 2: I don't, No, but you know it does give them
Speaker 2: some important depth there helps in that. And again you
Speaker 2: talking about they didn't give up me exactly. So it's
Speaker 2: not a bad trade, no, And it's for the Angels
Speaker 2: who need a center fielder. And Maniac has been hitting
Speaker 2: in Tripaa for what it's worth two seventy seven, three
Speaker 2: forty one, five eighteen with five homers in twenty games.
Speaker 2: You know, so a flyer there for a guy that
Speaker 2: they were going to lose in free agency. Anyways, in Cindergard,
Speaker 2: I doubt they would have brought him back, and Cindergard
Speaker 2: can try to help this team, you know, go across
Speaker 2: the finish line. Here one last move for the Phillies.
Speaker 2: They go out and get David roberts And I liked
Speaker 2: this one. This could end up being the move that
Speaker 2: makes the most impact for them. Yes, a guy that
Speaker 2: was closing games for the Cubs seems to really found
Speaker 2: what he used to have and the volatility of the
Speaker 2: reliever position is is funny but much needed reliever help.
Speaker 2: They seem to have satisfied every need. Nothing crazy sexy,
Speaker 2: but they're better than they were yesterday.
Speaker 3: Two point two to three ERA for the Cubs in
Speaker 3: high leverage innings. He immediately becomes the best bullpen arm
Speaker 3: that the Phillies have, and I think he's going to
Speaker 3: be closing games for them. They dfa Jerry's familiar as
Speaker 3: a result, which is probably a plus for them considering
Speaker 3: how he's performed this year. David Robertson was the best
Speaker 3: move I think the Phillies made, even though they add
Speaker 3: a guy like Brenda Marsh, even though they add a
Speaker 3: guy like Noah Cindergaard, getting David Robertson was a very
Speaker 3: key move for them yep. But overall with the Phillies,
Speaker 3: I don't think it was enough to be more than
Speaker 3: the third wild card hopefully.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, And I think it's really all dependent
Speaker 2: on Bryce Harper, right, I mean, it's really when does
Speaker 2: this man get back and how does he look when
Speaker 2: he's back. But I think this was exactly what the
Speaker 2: Phillies should have done, which was cautiously add don't trade
Speaker 2: your two blue Chippers, because ultimately, let's say Bryce Harper
Speaker 2: has a setbacker, doesn't come back in time, and now
Speaker 2: you traded Andrew Paynter and Mickabel. That's gonna look really bad.
Speaker 2: So props on Dave Dombrowski for restraining himself. That was
Speaker 2: that's a rarity. Only traded one top one hundred guy
Speaker 2: at this deadline, and they got better and they give
Speaker 2: him themselves a shot.
Speaker 3: AJ Preller just said, Dave Dombrowski, you're too old man. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's my time.
Speaker 2: You're lost.
Speaker 3: Dave, like the old Dave would have traded the entire farm.
Speaker 3: He probably would have got wad soda within the division.
Speaker 3: He said, what do you name? So that's why it's
Speaker 3: like the Nationals probably could have gotten the entire Phillies
Speaker 3: roster if Dave Dombrowski was in the heyday of the
Speaker 3: Dave Dobraski era, but he's weak And yeah, no, he's
Speaker 3: definitely not weak. But to your point about Dombrowski, he
Speaker 3: didn't leverage the farm and it's not a great farm either,
Speaker 3: but he still didn't. And the Phillies are better than
Speaker 3: what they were two days ago, and I think that's important.
Speaker 2: They are better than what they were. That's the most important.
Speaker 2: And then they've got a shot. They've got a shot.
Speaker 2: They have a shot. You speak, a preller one last
Speaker 2: preller move. They go get Brandon Drury for you know
Speaker 2: what was a lottery ticket in Victor Acosta. One point
Speaker 2: eight million dollar international free agent, big time upside, but
Speaker 2: obviously very very very far away, hasn't played above the complex.
Speaker 2: Drury is a guy that has hit really well, a
Speaker 2: great American, but he's been good away like a one
Speaker 2: nineteen WRC plus away important in field depth. We've talked
Speaker 2: about the ability to play multiple positions. This is a
Speaker 2: guy that I think can really be what they were
Speaker 2: hoping Adam Fraser was going to be for them last year. Uh,
Speaker 2: just a good move, low cost for them.
Speaker 3: Ultimately good move overall, I think good for both sides.
Speaker 3: You get kind of not a lottery ticket. Again, I
Speaker 3: keep using that word, but just like a guy who's
Speaker 3: far off who has a lot of talent in that
Speaker 3: player going over to the Cincinnati Reds. But then the
Speaker 3: Padres get a guy like Brandon Drury, give them a
Speaker 3: ton of positional versatility, can play all around the infield,
Speaker 3: and then you could even put him in a corner
Speaker 3: if you need him there. Overall, Brand and Jury goes
Speaker 3: from the best hitting park to one of the best
Speaker 3: pitchers park in Petco. But you're not relying on Brand
Speaker 3: and Jury to hit second like you were in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: If Brand and Jury can give you good production from
Speaker 3: the seven hole, you're it's it's flowers, it's gravy. The
Speaker 3: Padres did great there. They didn't trade a big time
Speaker 3: prospect for him. You get Brandon Drury, who's going to
Speaker 3: be solid. He's not going to light up Slam Diego.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure Don Orcillo will be using that phrase
Speaker 3: a couple of times down the stretch for Brand and Drury,
Speaker 3: who is a solid.
Speaker 2: Player, definitely a solid player, and again kind of just
Speaker 2: fills in the lineup and gives you depth and maybe
Speaker 2: a bench bat in the playoffs, depending on how you
Speaker 2: want to, you know, stack up your lineup. Red Sox
Speaker 2: get Eric Cosmer, very funny. We make fun of him
Speaker 2: Bloom we did on you know, a couple episodes ago.
Speaker 2: The Red Sox. You know, they don't really sell other
Speaker 2: than Christian Vasquez. I like the return that they got there,
Speaker 2: and they add Tommy fam who you talked about. It
Speaker 2: makes their outfield better on the live stream, it does,
Speaker 2: and Eric Cosmer makes them better at first base, given
Speaker 2: that they were getting no offensive production and legitimately bad
Speaker 2: first base defense, which is hard to do. So the
Speaker 2: Red Sox are slightly better. They're not fully out of
Speaker 2: the race. They traded, you know, they also acquired Corey
Speaker 2: Rosier and Max Ferguson, two burners. Ferguson has over forty
Speaker 2: stolen bases. They part with Jay Groom, their former first
Speaker 2: round pick was just not really panned out. It's kind
Speaker 2: of whatever. It's surprising Hosmer doesn't move the needle for them,
Speaker 2: but you know what he gets out of San Diego.
Speaker 2: We've been waiting for them to kind of move him
Speaker 2: and what that would look like, and they finally move him.
Speaker 3: The Red Sox are better than they were two days ago.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, you guys talked about it,
Speaker 3: you sign Trevor's story, and then you didn't really capitalize
Speaker 3: on anything else. You know, the Sale extension is still
Speaker 3: sitting there. I'm again looking for a direction for the
Speaker 3: Red Sox. Maybe they just think they can compete with
Speaker 3: the team now once they get healthy. You know, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't put a has to me there. They could go
Speaker 3: on a crazy run. I mean, you wouldn't. I mean,
Speaker 3: if jad Martinez gets a little bit healthier and he
Speaker 3: starts hitting like he was, you know, Bogart's endevors thing
Speaker 3: er do go, you know, I mean he I don't
Speaker 3: think he's going to continue to be as bad as
Speaker 3: he's been because he's a better player than that. Give
Speaker 3: all these back, you know, when Sale comes back healthy,
Speaker 3: you know, Whitlock continuing to shut it down back there,
Speaker 3: maybe if Paveta finds a second wind. You know, they
Speaker 3: have a lot of things going in their direction. But
Speaker 3: you know, Christian Vasquez losing him doesn't help, especially in.
Speaker 2: The catching position. Now they're very weak there.
Speaker 3: Christian Vasquez was hitting third for them second sometimes for
Speaker 3: a reason in this lineup, because he's one of their
Speaker 3: better bats. But the Red Sox are better than they
Speaker 3: were two days ago, but not much better. And it's
Speaker 3: hard to think, oh yeah, the Red Sox after this
Speaker 3: deadline are a playoff contender. It's hard, but I am
Speaker 3: again not counting the Red Sox out because they've did
Speaker 3: it this We.
Speaker 2: Learned the hard way last year. They've had some red
Speaker 2: hot stretches this year. Really the best additions that they
Speaker 2: can make is health editions within their own team. And
Speaker 2: you know, they satisfied some smaller some smaller holes. They
Speaker 2: did subtract a catcher, they did get a good prospect
Speaker 2: or turn there. But ultimately it's going to be interesting
Speaker 2: to see, you know, how things go for them the
Speaker 2: rest of the way. One interesting other move what Marifield
Speaker 2: Blue Jays acquire him. You know, wit is not what
Speaker 2: he once was. The Royals really fumbled the bag by
Speaker 2: not trading him two years ago, or even a year
Speaker 2: and a half ago, when they could have got multiple
Speaker 2: top one hundred prospects when he was playing at his
Speaker 2: peak with control and positional versatility and stealing bags. They
Speaker 2: could have got a haul. They turned down some good offers.
Speaker 2: They still get two decent prospects, maxkis TiO, who's thrown
Speaker 2: pretty well at the big league level, and some odd
Speaker 2: tailor who's put up some good numbers as an outfielder
Speaker 2: or infield slash outfielder at the Triple A level. A
Speaker 2: far cry from what they could have got a year
Speaker 2: and a half ago. But the Royals do get a
Speaker 2: little bit, and the Blue Jays get a veteran bat,
Speaker 2: defensively versatile, good speed. I know he's not what he
Speaker 2: once was. I know you don't love him, but I
Speaker 2: think this is a good, low cost acquisition for a
Speaker 2: team that already has a lot of power. Kind of
Speaker 2: balances out the lineup a little bit.
Speaker 3: I don't love him, but I kind of like him
Speaker 3: on the Blue Jays. I feel like it's a very
Speaker 3: good fit there. You know, he does a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff that the Blue Jays could use right now. The
Speaker 3: big stories the Blue Jays needed a left handed bat,
Speaker 3: but you were talking in the live stream, I think
Speaker 3: that's a bit overblown. The Blue Jay's offense is so
Speaker 3: frickin good, like against righty's. You know, maybe they could
Speaker 3: have used a left handed bat, but whatever. Their lineup
Speaker 3: is so loaded. At the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 3: like the Mets have more struggles against lefties than the
Speaker 3: Blue Jays were having struggles against righties. The Blue Jays
Speaker 3: still have one of the best offenses in the sport.
Speaker 3: You had a guy like Whip Merrifield. Maybe he finds
Speaker 3: another gear there with Toronto. But on the same side,
Speaker 3: the Royals did well there too. While they didn't capitalize
Speaker 3: at the right moment, they didn't get fleast. They got
Speaker 3: two pretty solid prospects, more than I actually would have
Speaker 3: thought for wit Merrifield. But at the same time, I
Speaker 3: like what the Blue Jays did, so I think it
Speaker 3: was kind of a win win.
Speaker 2: I like the deal for both sides.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be good for the Blue Jays,
Speaker 3: and I think the Royals actually did better than I
Speaker 3: thought they would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with all of those, all of
Speaker 2: the above. Samad Taylor twenty four years old, Corona, California. Guy,
Speaker 2: by the way, got a Corona twenty three bags, nine homers,
Speaker 2: putting up numbers in triple A and again, Castillo's been
Speaker 2: pretty good at the big league level. Miguel Vargas gets
Speaker 2: caught up as Justin Turner hits the IL. We thought
Speaker 2: that Miguel Vargas, third base prospect with the Dodgers, might
Speaker 2: get traded. Ultimately he stays with the Dodgers and now
Speaker 2: he's making his big league debut. I love Vargas, very
Speaker 2: excited to see what he's gonna do there. Plus hit tool,
Speaker 2: above average power, can play third, can play first, can
Speaker 2: play even corner outfield if you need him to second base,
Speaker 2: even really good piece. That's another guy that I think
Speaker 2: internal upgrade, possibly another really good option. And it really consistent.
Speaker 2: Dodgers continue to look good. Are there any moves we missed?
Speaker 2: Of course? Oh yeah, I swear to God, I actually
Speaker 2: totally forgot.
Speaker 3: I was almost waiting for you to bring it up.
Speaker 3: It just a depressed state. But I think that's the
Speaker 3: most beautiful part about it.
Speaker 2: Arm I swear to God that was an accident. That
Speaker 2: that in itself, the power of the subconscious is.
Speaker 3: The deadline move for the Miami Marlins. Okay, but could
Speaker 3: I first? Could I first?
Speaker 2: Before you?
Speaker 3: Rant I came out and said it was a loose,
Speaker 3: loose And the reason I said it was a lose
Speaker 3: lose was more to fire up social media and I
Speaker 3: tagged you because I wanted you to to rack with it.
Speaker 3: I gave you what you wanted. Yes, I wanted exactly
Speaker 3: what happened. I actually wish you would have gotten more
Speaker 3: on me. You just said, how is this a lose
Speaker 3: lose and we're gonna talk about it? I wish you
Speaker 3: what hard or but that is what it is. Why
Speaker 3: the reason why I said it was a lose lose
Speaker 3: was because I'm not the biggest fan of Jordan Grossen's,
Speaker 3: but I do feel that the Blue Jays really needed
Speaker 3: a big time starter, so packaging Grossians maybe with a
Speaker 3: Ricky Tiedeman could have gotten them, Montess could have gotten
Speaker 3: them Luis Castillo. So that was the only reason. Because
Speaker 3: they did add Anthony Bass and Zach Pop. Zac Pop's
Speaker 3: actually Canadian, you know, and Anthony Bass has been really good, yeah,
Speaker 3: which is kind of cool. That's I mean, what do
Speaker 3: you think about Zach Pop? Like Zach Pop is what
Speaker 3: a big Yeah? Like he could be pretty good, but
Speaker 3: the big yet here is Anthony Bass and it.
Speaker 2: Has been dynamite.
Speaker 3: I just I don't want Blue Jays fans thinking that
Speaker 3: they just got another Jordan Romano now more like they
Speaker 3: got another Tim Maza who's been good for them. You know,
Speaker 3: maybe Adam Simber. That's a guy that you got an Simbas. Yes,
Speaker 3: Simber like a good, a good reliever. But I just
Speaker 3: felt that Jordan Grosans and you know, I'm gonna hand
Speaker 3: it over to you like I'm not his biggest fan.
Speaker 3: So I guess the Blue Jays did well there. The
Speaker 3: only reason I said lose, lose, and one part was
Speaker 3: to fire you up. In the second part, I felt
Speaker 3: that the Blue Jays' biggest need was starting pitching. They
Speaker 3: could have used Grosshans in a bigger deal to get
Speaker 3: one of those big arms.
Speaker 2: No, I definitely agree with that. You know, I was
Speaker 2: surprised that they ended up parting with the Grossians in
Speaker 2: a deal where you're just getting two relievers. But maybe
Speaker 2: that's because the league feels the same way we do,
Speaker 2: which is that Grossian's is not the prospect he once was.
Speaker 2: What I will say, though, is he's twenty two years
Speaker 2: old and in Triple A, put up good numbers in
Speaker 2: double last year, so maybe they could have salvaged some
Speaker 2: value there. Ultimately they part with him. I see where
Speaker 2: are you coming from there? I'm just not gonna get
Speaker 2: I'm not. I can't be any meaner to you than
Speaker 2: like I just just it's I can't do it like
Speaker 2: that was That was my meanest reply I could. That
Speaker 2: was just how is this to lose? Lose? I get it,
Speaker 2: and it's frustrating. And if that was one of several
Speaker 2: moves they made, I'm cool with it. The Marlins need
Speaker 2: bats and they need higher end hit tool guys, which
Speaker 2: is like they keep going for the swing and miss
Speaker 2: power guys and they can't develop them, so try something different.
Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. Again, he's twenty two in trip
Speaker 2: a A, but this guy has no power. I think
Speaker 2: he's got like six extra base hits in the whole year.
Speaker 2: He's just not that good. He's not sticking at short stop.
Speaker 2: He's moving to third, but doesn't have power there, so
Speaker 2: maybe he moves to south. I don't know what the
Speaker 2: hell they're gonna do. And that's the only move they
Speaker 2: made at the deadline was to trade two relievers for
Speaker 2: Jordan Grosschanz. That that's it. That's literally it. So it's frustrating.
Speaker 2: I subconsciously forgot about it. So that kind of tells
Speaker 2: you everything you need to know. I literally was ready
Speaker 2: to end the episode. So we'll we'll. That's all I
Speaker 2: really got.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what their plan is, okay, because
Speaker 3: they didn't trade Pablo Lopez, they didn't trade hazyus Aguilar.
Speaker 2: I need you to go off more. It's incredibly entertaining.
Speaker 3: It's incredibly entertaining, and I know all your Marlins fans
Speaker 3: need more from you. I also want to touch on
Speaker 3: the Montes deal to end it, because I mean, the guys,
Speaker 3: we're also gonna talk winners and losers. We're gonna do
Speaker 3: trade grades like we ain't done talking about these deals.
Speaker 3: So make sure that you're subscribed to the Just Baseball Show.
Speaker 3: If you're watching this on YouTube, stay tuned. We're gonna
Speaker 3: do much more trade deadline coverage. You know, we do
Speaker 3: an hour and we're probably even doing more than an
Speaker 3: hour on this episode every single day, so we're gonna
Speaker 3: be spacing it out. Give some of these deals time
Speaker 3: to digest, really dive deeper into the prospect packages. Give
Speaker 3: you some grades than do overall winners and losers. When
Speaker 3: we're all together on Friday, it's gonna be an awesome
Speaker 3: week here at the Just Baseball Show.
Speaker 2: But I need to hear a rant from you.
Speaker 3: I need to and Marlins fans need to hear because
Speaker 3: who else are they going to go to right now?
Speaker 3: They need to hear from the guy himself, arm So you.
Speaker 2: Know, hazus agu Garrett Cooper is still on the Marlins,
Speaker 2: Joey Wendall is still on the Marlins, Stevenen o'kurtis still
Speaker 2: on the Marlins, and Miguel Rojas still on the Marlins.
Speaker 2: Brian Anderson still on the Marlins. All these guys are
Speaker 2: not good, but they could have been traded. Uh, several
Speaker 2: of them could have got decent returns. They ultimately hold
Speaker 2: on to everybody. Papa was the one guy like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if you don't get the right offer, hold on to him,
Speaker 2: but you better trade everybody else. You better do what
Speaker 2: you can to get whatever you can back for some
Speaker 2: of these guys. And all they do is package a
Speaker 2: Rule five guy and a guy that you know has
Speaker 2: been an emergent reliever for them for a prospect with
Speaker 2: no impact. And I just don't understand what their plan is, like,
Speaker 2: what what is your goal to get a centerfielder? All
Speaker 2: we were hearing about is, oh, they're gonna go get
Speaker 2: a centerfielder. That's their plan. They really, that's what they're
Speaker 2: asking for from everybody. Then they don't do it. What
Speaker 2: are you gonna do with Garrett Cooper? The guy is
Speaker 2: a lug. He can hit, but he is a lug
Speaker 2: and you could have got something for him. The Dodgers
Speaker 2: have called for two straight years on him. You don't
Speaker 2: trade him, and a guy can't stay healthy, so now
Speaker 2: you're gonna count on him to be your best hitter
Speaker 2: moving forward again, hayesus Aguilar, what does that man do
Speaker 2: for you? Two with the same people there, and Cooper
Speaker 2: is just a better hitter. I just don't see the direction.
Speaker 2: I don't see the plan. They don't have a short
Speaker 2: stop for next year. We go Rojas is not their
Speaker 2: long term short sum. They still don't have a freaking
Speaker 2: center field or I can promise you that they're stuck
Speaker 2: with Avi Garcia for four more fucking years. Jorge Solira
Speaker 2: has a player option next year, which guess what, Peter,
Speaker 2: he's opting into that shit. He's opting in. Why would
Speaker 2: you give jorgees Soleiro lebron deal. He's got an option.
Speaker 2: He's got a player option next year too. The guy's
Speaker 2: never leaving. He's gonna suck for two straight years and
Speaker 2: never opt out. Like he's holding the Marlins hostage. Aviy
Speaker 2: Garcia is holding the Marlins hostage, and they're just sitting
Speaker 2: there doing nothing. I think the only way that they
Speaker 2: could have really made a major change was trading Lopez.
Speaker 2: They didn't need to do it. Now. Very interesting to
Speaker 2: see what they do this offseason, because guess what the
Speaker 2: only got in the center field market is Brandon Nemo,
Speaker 2: and I highly doubt they're gonna pay Brandon Nemo. He
Speaker 2: probably end up staying in New York or someone else
Speaker 2: would pay him more money. Who's the center fielder for
Speaker 2: the Marlins next year? Peter? You know I've heard it's you.
Speaker 2: I am getting the hip or Bill? I saw you
Speaker 2: in the Beds League.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can track a fly ball better than
Speaker 3: a Sue Sanchez is currently. Did that feel good at
Speaker 3: least or are you still unhappy? I feel that at
Speaker 3: least good. It does like when that kind of stuff
Speaker 3: happens to me, I need to just let it out,
Speaker 3: whether anything.
Speaker 2: Changes or not, just let it out. And they drafted
Speaker 2: Jacob fucking Berry and then I hated that pick too.
Speaker 3: That was the worst pick of the draft type there,
Speaker 3: I they there was so many whatever Brooksley, brooks Ley,
Speaker 3: Kevin Prada.
Speaker 2: I mean, we can go down the lot but and
Speaker 2: they won't. And and by the way, they promoted Victor
Speaker 2: Victor Mesa, they promoted Ray Patrick Dinner to triple A
Speaker 2: and Paul McIntosh and Griffin Conine sitting double A. Hey,
Speaker 2: there's just so many. It's just it's just a mess.
Speaker 2: It's a mess. I'm a Cardinals fan. Now, I'm a
Speaker 2: Cardinals fan. But my girlfriends fan, My wonderful girlfriend Ellie
Speaker 2: is a Cardinals fan, and they are fun. And it's
Speaker 2: pool hosts last year, and I'm just gonna ride. I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna be a pool hoole stand the rest of
Speaker 2: the year. Fun differential. Yes, that them two, them too.
Speaker 2: I got my team from me, I got my team
Speaker 2: from each league. But I can just try my best
Speaker 2: to pretend I care. And Darren Ruff's a fucking met
Speaker 2: By the way, they trade my one favorite player to
Speaker 2: a division rival.
Speaker 3: That's the deal we forgot about. So Mets fans, you
Speaker 3: got Darren Ruff. You got Darren Ruff. That's what you needed.
Speaker 3: Love that left masher. You can look at the stats
Speaker 3: this year and say overall, like who is this? You know,
Speaker 3: I feel like we might have given up a lot
Speaker 3: for him. You know, we didn't do much of the deadline,
Speaker 3: but you already know you have one of the best
Speaker 3: teams in baseball. You just add Jacob de gram Back
Speaker 3: into the fold rotation, looks great. Yeah, Michael Gibbins, who's
Speaker 3: an underrated reliever for the Cubs.
Speaker 2: He could at least give.
Speaker 3: You kind of what I think Ottavino is giving you
Speaker 3: right now, Like Michael Gibbins is that good of a reliever.
Speaker 2: On the same side, Darren.
Speaker 3: Ruff solves an issue that you've had all season hitting
Speaker 3: left handers. He's been the ultimate platoon for the Giants,
Speaker 3: and you know that the Giants are that smart team
Speaker 3: that knows how to platoon. You bring Darren Ruff in
Speaker 3: for pinching at bats, always hits that home run. You're
Speaker 3: gonna love Darren Ruff on your team. Now the vogel
Speaker 3: Back deal makes sense. Now you just added a bunch
Speaker 3: of mashers on your bench. The depth there on offense
Speaker 3: is so much better. The bullpen has been short up.
Speaker 3: You didn't get David robertson. But it's not like you
Speaker 3: did nothing. You got Michael Gibbins, and I know Mets
Speaker 3: fans are a greedy bunch. You wanted to do a
Speaker 3: lot more. But I'm looking at the deadline compared to
Speaker 3: every other team, and I'm calling it a win. You
Speaker 3: didn't get Wilsonature's okay, but you got two months of
Speaker 3: Abber Bias or Pete kro Armstrong who's down in the Cubs,
Speaker 3: who looks very good. You don't want to make that
Speaker 3: mistake again. I think they did a very good job here.
Speaker 3: I know Jave Bias was great for the Mets, but
Speaker 3: in that type of deal, you'd rather not do that
Speaker 3: over the long run. And will that trade for Darren
Speaker 3: Ruff probably be better for the Giants in the long run, Yeah, probably,
Speaker 3: But who cares. It's not like it's gonna burn you
Speaker 3: because none of those guys are like a Pete Koor Armstrong.
Speaker 3: Those are you hope they turn into David Peterson Totally. Overall,
Speaker 3: the Mets did well addressed in need. And we're both
Speaker 3: big fans of Darren Ruff. You put him in the
Speaker 3: bright spots, He's gonna deliver. I'm a big fan of
Speaker 3: Darren Ruff, and so were you. I have my Darren
Speaker 3: Roff shirt. I should have wore it today. He's a beast.
Speaker 3: Actually referencing Ellie again. She actually took it. I gotta
Speaker 3: go get it back. But Darren Ruff is a lot
Speaker 3: of fun. I think he's gonna fit that role perfectly.
Speaker 3: Like you said, And speaking of greedy fans, the floor
Speaker 3: is yours, Yankee fan for Frankie Montes.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Yeah, Yankee fans. I think they did better than
Speaker 2: every single contender not named the Padres. I really do
Speaker 2: very fair. I think it's very fair.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, adding Frankie Montes, who'd you give
Speaker 3: up in the deal? You gave up Ken Walderchuck kind
Speaker 3: of hurts.
Speaker 2: I think he could any you knew you were gonna
Speaker 2: give up something. You had to give up something.
Speaker 3: And Ken Waldechuck, I think could be a little bit
Speaker 3: better than Jordan Montgomery when it's all said and done.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: And Frankie Montes is better than Jordan Montgomery, and that's clear.
Speaker 3: That's why they traded him. I know you're probably upset
Speaker 3: about trading Jordan Montgomery, but think about it like this.
Speaker 3: Not that long ago, you were very upset with Jordan
Speaker 3: Montgomery and the Yankees. It's clear they were not gonna
Speaker 3: put him as Game three of the World Series, Game
Speaker 3: three of the ALCS. He's not that good. Jamison Tyle,
Speaker 3: at least lately, has looked as good as a Jordan Montgomery.
Speaker 3: You have so much starting pitching depth. This is clear
Speaker 3: that they believe in a guy like Clark Schmidt. Also,
Speaker 3: you have to make go who I really dislike. I'll
Speaker 3: say that right now. Ye screw this glass outing, screw
Speaker 3: that guy. That's fair. At least he had a fine outing.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: I hope he's not on the I hope he can
Speaker 3: see a fade soon the way.
Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Good, more dudes who are just terrible people getting them
Speaker 3: out of baseball. Toming armand not the biggest fan. I'd
Speaker 3: rather have Clark SCHMICKIVI innings. And since Clark Schmid's been
Speaker 3: called up, he's been much better. Jorge Montgomery, I'm totally
Speaker 3: fine giving up. I'm a Yankee fan. I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: I'm totally fine giving up Jorn Montgomery. I think Harrison
Speaker 3: Bata was a great addition. Also because you're going to
Speaker 3: have Beta for next year too. Very good bridge to
Speaker 3: potentially ad Jason to Mingez, or he can help Floriel
Speaker 3: on the outfield too, or Pereira. The Yankees farm system
Speaker 3: is great, right now, You kept all these different pieces,
Speaker 3: you got Frankie montass and Lou Trevino.
Speaker 2: You're gonna look at.
Speaker 3: His stats and say, who is this guy? But look
Speaker 3: at the pedigree of what he's been able to deliver.
Speaker 3: You take him out where Oakland doesn't even seem to
Speaker 3: give a shit, now you put him with the Yankees.
Speaker 3: It seems like Matt Blake, the pitching coach, has really
Speaker 3: been able to turn around this entire staff. I feel
Speaker 3: like they're going to give him a little bit of
Speaker 3: an edge, get him back to what he looked like.
Speaker 3: And what he did look like was a closer and
Speaker 3: a good one at that. The Yankees really made out
Speaker 3: well during the deadline. They didn't give up Parazza, they
Speaker 3: didn't give up to Mingez, they didn't give up Volpi.
Speaker 3: And now you were questions were being asked, are you
Speaker 3: better than the Astros? Well, you were worse than the
Speaker 3: Ashros going into this, and the Ashros still added a
Speaker 3: guy like Trey Mancini. They still added a guy like
Speaker 3: Christian Vasquez, and they're going to Adlance McCullers Junior.
Speaker 2: But right now, in my.
Speaker 3: Opinion, it's Game seven Alcs, Yankees Ashtros, and the Yankees
Speaker 3: might be favored. That's what it is, and the Yankees
Speaker 3: are right there. That's what Cashman he needed to do,
Speaker 3: and he did it. Did they get Pablo Lopez? Did
Speaker 3: they get Carlos rodon No? And that's one thing I
Speaker 3: want to end on too, because that trade of Jordan
Speaker 3: Montgomery did feel like, all right, Yankees are getting Road
Speaker 3: or Pablo Lopez now. But if something fell through, the
Speaker 3: Giants kept Rod On, they kept Jock Peterson, didn't trade,
Speaker 3: and the Yankees didn't trade for one of those, at
Speaker 3: least Pablo Lopez. I wonder, and we're probably gonna hear
Speaker 3: about what we will. We will well recover it. But
Speaker 3: I guess just do you have any feelings? Do you
Speaker 3: have any gut feelings of maybe what happened?
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think it was a trade
Speaker 2: that the the Yankees were okay with making regardless, right like, okay,
Speaker 2: if the Pablo Lopez trade doesn't get through at the
Speaker 2: deadline or you know, right at the buzzer, we still
Speaker 2: are happy with the baiter from Montgomery swat, but I
Speaker 2: think it was made with the thought in mind of ooh,
Speaker 2: we might we might also be adding Pablo. It seemed
Speaker 2: like it was down to the goal line. But the
Speaker 2: Marlins asking price was a little too steep. And we've
Speaker 2: seen Brian Cashman's discipline. He doesn't just deplete the farm,
Speaker 2: and I think the Marlins asking price might have been
Speaker 2: a bit too steep. That seemed to be the trend.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers thought it was too steep, the Yankees thought
Speaker 2: it was too steep. That was something the Marlins were
Speaker 2: within the right to do, given that Pablo Lopez does
Speaker 2: not need to be traded. That's why I would have
Speaker 2: loved to have seen them trade everybody else. Lopez was
Speaker 2: the one guy you didn't need to trade. I think
Speaker 2: it was close. I bet you there was a sticking
Speaker 2: point on one player. And I'm interested to see if
Speaker 2: our guy Craig Mish, I'm sure he will will reveal
Speaker 2: kind of what the details were of that trade and
Speaker 2: what the sticking points were, because clearly there was one
Speaker 2: piece or something that just couldn't quite get it across
Speaker 2: the finish line between the Yankees and the Marlins. And
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see it. If the Yankees got Pablo, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're talking about probably being better than the Astros, but
Speaker 2: if they had to give up some essential pieces to
Speaker 2: do so, then you know, maybe it wasn't worth it
Speaker 2: for the Yanks. Yanks preserved their system pretty well, They
Speaker 2: preserved their blue Chippers while adding a bunch of impact guys.
Speaker 2: They did a great job, I agree, other than the Padres,
Speaker 2: they probably had the second best you know, deadline stretch here.
Speaker 2: Astros not far off either. We're gonna have a really
Speaker 2: really fun postseason. A lot of teams got better. It's
Speaker 2: a lot of parody. Very excited for these expanded playoffs
Speaker 2: with a lot more teams that have kind of gotten
Speaker 2: themselves going. Screw you, Guardians, but everybody else, thank you
Speaker 2: for getting better and making the game a little bit
Speaker 2: more exciting across the board.
Speaker 3: And we're gonna go over all these different teams too,
Speaker 3: when we talk about winners and losers, when we talk
Speaker 3: about trade grades. So if we didn't talk about your team,
Speaker 3: don't worry.
Speaker 2: We will.
Speaker 3: And if you didn't do enough, you're gonna hear it.
Speaker 3: And if you did a lot, you're definitely gonna hear
Speaker 3: our praise too, and we're gonna go through each trade
Speaker 3: more collab on it, really get down into the gritty
Speaker 3: and really see what we thought about each individual trade.
Speaker 3: So stay tuned for the rest of the episodes on
Speaker 3: the Just Baseball Show. I'm so happy to be back.
Speaker 3: I've been moving into my new apartment. I finally got
Speaker 3: Wi Fi set up. My WiFi name is is Just Baseball.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you the password, but it is
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Speaker 2: I'm very excited. Schmidt.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's Clark Schmidt sixty nine four twenty. That's the password.
Speaker 3: But we're back, and it feels good to be home,
Speaker 3: back in New York City. I just missed talking about
Speaker 3: the early deadline with you and Jack, but you guys
Speaker 3: killed it too, went over all the deals. Was there
Speaker 3: any other moves that we might have missed because I'm
Speaker 3: going through the Just Baseball tracker who our guys did
Speaker 3: a phenomenal job with, and I feel like we pretty
Speaker 3: much covered anybody. I mean, the Mariners added a guy
Speaker 3: like Jake Lamb and yeah, Kurtkas Sally, which I do
Speaker 3: like for them, I do.
Speaker 2: Kirkus Sally's an underrated edition, but you know, I Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: there's only so much we could talk about there, but yeah,
Speaker 2: they didn't need to catch her behind cal Rally he
Speaker 2: helps and he's a vet so.
Speaker 3: And the Brewers got Trevor Rosenthal, which yeah, which I
Speaker 3: forgot he was around.
Speaker 2: But he's good when he's when he's healthy and right.
Speaker 2: But yeah, not not too much, not too much else.
Speaker 2: I think we got most of it, and I'm excited
Speaker 2: tomorrow's episode we can kind of fill in any other
Speaker 2: gaps and I'm sure there'll be some more rumors coming
Speaker 2: out of like what almost happened, what you know, what
Speaker 2: certain teams did or didn't do, and uh, fill in
Speaker 2: whatever we may have missed on tomorrow's episode. But that's
Speaker 2: it for me. Check out just Baseball dot Com. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have so much wrapping up the entire deadline. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be breaking down all the prospect returns. We're gonna
Speaker 2: be breaking down basically everything that's happened. I'm gonna rank
Speaker 2: every prospect that was dealts, which will be really fun.
Speaker 2: That's gonna take a little bit, but I'm really excited
Speaker 2: to do that. We got to make sure we get
Speaker 2: every single prospect that was dealt a lot of really
Speaker 2: good ones obviously moved. But that's it for me. Peter,
Speaker 2: anything from.
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