WEBVTT - 276 | MLB Trade Deadline Recap 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:17.160 God's time to say your legs. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:33.400 The girls prison sits there. We will sit in tows 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:45.720 the garner up Wednesday, August third, Peter. That's also known 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:50.839 as the day after the trade deadline. We're recording this 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:54.480 on the evening of August second. It was so much fun. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.000 We're not even general managers and we're draine just trying 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.160 to keep up with what all the general managers as 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:00.760 we're doing. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.240 I don't know if you did, but I forgot about 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.280 food and water basically the whole day. And after we 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.759 finished our stream on YouTube, and we were streaming on TikTok, 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:17.040 you know our guys, you know Elijah Ethan, Ryan Cole. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.680 I mean, so many people over here just baseball, updating 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.200 the website NonStop, and we're gonna go over all the 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:27.720 moves from the website. But man, I almost collapsed afterwards realizing, 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.240 wait a minute, I have an eight. I don't think 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.920 I've had a full glass of water all day. But man, 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:34.839 what a day. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.560 It was so funny. It was we were just stimulated 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.120 at all times. It was you know what was nice 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.720 was yesterday was like the appetizer, right. It started to 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.680 heat up in the afternoon. Jack and I tackled a 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:51.280 lot of what went down on yesterday's kind of appetizer 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.279 to the deadline, but today was nuts and Juan Soto 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.880 we knew was the big domino that needed to fall 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.080 before everything else started to fall into place. But it 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.440 was up until the buzzer, or really after the buzzer, 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.560 that we had several other trades go in. We're going 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.880 to try to hit on every single trade if we can. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.519 We'll probably miss some minor moves here and there. We 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.839 might not give the Luke Weaver trade as much time. 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.000 But crazy thing is on yesterday's podcast, you literally did 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:17.679 give it some time. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.760 So that's how crazy we are. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.280 We're saying that we're not going to go over all 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.280 the minor moves, but you know we're going to sneak 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.320 them in here because we have a storyline with each 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.680 most likely like yeah, Luke Weaver Paul Goldschmith trade, remember that, Yeah. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.280 Which is crazy. That guy did not pan out the 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.959 way I think we thought he would, nor the Diamondbacks thought, 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.960 and of course the Royals go out and get another arm. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:40.960 We're going to talk a lot about Juan Soda, but 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.400 I think we got to start with your guy Robbie 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.880 Grossman who heads over to the Braves. And it's so 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.440 funny because we were talking about it from this perspective, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.680 who was going to be the player that gets acquired, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.440 that does what the Braves pieces did last year. Didn't 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.520 necessarily have to be a guy to the Braves, but 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.040 we were using the example of Solaer and the example 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.960 of Rosario and how the Braves were able to kind 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.720 of pick up guys that got hot at the right time. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:10.040 You identified Robbie Grossman, and funny enough, Robbie Grossman ends 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.120 up being the guy that the Braves bring into town. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.480 Definitely a big help with Adam Duvall out for season 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.239 and with Rosario seeming like he just is not right 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.240 after coming back from a couple of different injuries and 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.360 dealing with an eye issue as well, so hoping he 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.920 gets better. But Grossman a very very good pickup for them. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.360 In twenty twenty one, there were five players who had 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:35.480 twenty home runs, twenty stolen bases, and a walk rate 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.880 over ten percent. Robbie Grossman was one of those five, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:44.560 along with Shoheo Tani, Fernando Tatis, Junior, Jose Ramirez, and 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:45.720 I forget the fourth. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:47.280 But here's probably good. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.880 He was probably good, pretty good type of company that 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.240 Robbie Grossman was in. Now Robbie Grossman is not going 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.960 to give you that level of production and he has 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.120 not shown that level of production. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:00.720 Again this year. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.200 But remember Eddie Rosario was not that good before he 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.120 came over the Braves. Jorge Solaire I felt like was 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.200 striking out at a forty percent rate before he went 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:14.080 over to the Braves. And then Eddie Rosario becomes the NLCSMVP, 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:19.040 followed suit by Jorge Solaire who becomes the World Series MVP. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.840 I believe that was the most underrated deal at the deadline. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.520 They didn't give up much and they got a guy 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.880 who has that level of potential. And it's not just 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.560 that Robbie Grossman hasn't been playing that well this season. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.920 We're going to talk about the Tigers a little bit 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.520 farther in this episode, and right now, it seems like 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:45.719 the Tigers woes is organizationally right. Nobody in their lineup 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:50.000 is playing well, not one. So you go through it 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.719 and you think maybe a change of scenery can get 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.120 a Robbie Grossman back to at least close to that 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.880 level of potential he showed last year that level of production. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.240 I really like the move for the Braves adds a 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.680 ton of depth there. He's not gonna wow you on 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.240 the base pass. He's not gonna wow you in the 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.720 outfield either, but he's gonna give you consistent good at 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.120 bats and come playoff time, I think he's going to 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.560 be I think he's going to make a difference there 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.960 in Atlanta. I love the move there for the Braves, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.240 and it makes sense, right. You feel like they're the 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.880 kings of finding the diamonds in the rough at some 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.080 of these points, and I believe they found one in 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:27.800 Robbie Grossman. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.920 Oh, you talk about the struggles in Detroit. I mean 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.920 it's from the veterans. It's from guys that we were 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.080 expecting to make big leaps, from Heimer Condolario to Spencer 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.200 Torkos into even Riley Green, you know who has slowed 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.520 down a little bit since getting up there. Habi baias 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.839 the big prize free agent. Everyone has struggled. So I 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.279 think getting out of there is definitely something that should help. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.280 And of course we know it's a difficult place to hit. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.160 The Braves also add Jacob Deerizi, which I think is 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.719 an underrated pitching depth kind of acquisition as well. They 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.279 swap him for Will Smith. That's some reliever help for 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:03.000 the Astros. Well, two contending teams in opposite leagues help 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.320 each other, and I think that's that's a low key 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.680 move that could be quite helpful. Do you want to 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.640 go straight into Soto or it's kind of stick with 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.640 the smaller moves and save Sodo for last. 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.279 Let's save it a little bit because that was an 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.039 interesting move there too, because they did give up Will 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:23.080 Smith for Jake Odorizzy in that deal, but then they 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.040 got rossil Iglesias. We might as well just cover this 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:31.240 team now, because these were some very interesting moves here 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.800 by Alex Tantopolis, who seems to just have it up here. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.200 He just went over the Austin Riley extension. I mean, 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.599 great deal for both sides, and another one. Will Smith 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.920 is a good reliever. But I would say they upgraded 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.880 there with Vasila Glacias and then they get a guy 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.840 like Jake Odorizzy who's probably not going to pitch you know, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.599 Game four of the of the World series, but you 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.880 never know, right, Because Tucker Davidson even had to slot 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.280 in in Game five as the starter. Jake Odoizzy has 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.160 been there, done that. He's a good addition. Then they 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:08.240 upgrade in the bullpen. Braves didn't have a super exciting deadline. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.760 They didn't need to be a very good one, I thought. No, 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.560 I agree, they didn't need to do anything crazy. Team's 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:14.080 really good. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.960 They already made their biggest addition they needed internally, which 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.560 was calling up Michael Harrison and having him perform Strider. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.160 Is kind of satisfied a need for them. They only 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.360 needed to make some of those small moves. Oder Rizzy's 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.120 really going to help them in the regular season too. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:29.920 You talk about him not taking the ball in a 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.880 Game four of the World Series. I agree, but that's 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.160 a guy that kneed Ennings, you know, in relief spots 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.040 or you know, if you have to start him in 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:39.800 the playoffs, you can. But he's going to help them 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.040 get through, you know, the rest of this regular season, 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.640 because they struggled a little bit with keeping the rotation 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.040 together and at times have had some vacant spots there. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.320 I really like what they did with the bullpen. You 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.480 assume Kenley Jansen's going to be back soon. Riise Ella 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.760 Glacias I mean, there's a lot of guys you trust 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.080 there and Will Smith has struggled for them, so I 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.800 think I agree it's a good swap, and they're a 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.360 better team than they were prior to the deadline. They 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.320 didn't need to make any crazy moves and they're gonna 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.640 be another threat just like they were last year. 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.960 And also just the lefty righty stuff. I mean, Will 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.600 Smith is a lefty, Mintor is a lefti Matsik is 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.360 a lefty. They get a righty in return in ross 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.120 A Iglesias, which they didn't have a ton outside of 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:24.360 Kenley Jansen. Just overall, Alexanthopolis again is proving he's one 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:25.840 of the best gems in the sport. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.720 Oh we talked about that in the last episode. He 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.200 is just amazing. And whether it's the small moves, the 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.240 big moves, the extensions, the pre arms signing, it's all 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.920 really good stuff from Alexanthopolis. And I think maybe Alavila, 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.000 like he talked about on the last game, could take 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.920 a note or two or a thing or two from 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.920 what Alexanthopolis is doing in bo and Atlanta. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.280 Let's talk about the Tigers for a second, because we 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:50.840 have a ton of big moves. Of course we're going 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.000 to get into but let's cover the Tigers for a second. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.079 I think the most disappointing team of the deadline. You 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.640 might be a Cardinals fan and be disappointed in your 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.320 team too. You could be a Blue Jays fan disappointed. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.559 I'd understand if you're disappointed as a Guardians fan. And 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.280 we're going to talk about White Sox. I mean, we 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:09.440 can talk all day, but the Tigers. You have so 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.240 many bullpen pieces. You have so many pieces that you 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.800 could end up dealing on offense, even starting pitching, you 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.480 could have gotten rid of, like a Michael Pineda for example. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:23.000 You did really nothing. You gave away Michael Fulmer in 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.160 a deal that you know, you know, I'd throw it 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.160 over to you for the prospects. But I can guess 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.200 that they didn't do a very good job there, just 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.880 in hindsight, just assuming what the Tigers have been up 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.800 to lately. You know, they didn't deal Chafin, they didn't 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:40.160 deal Soda, they didn't deal Joejamenez. They dealt Robbie Grossman, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.679 who I believe maybe you should have kept as one 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:47.840 of the better offensive players on your team. The Tigers, again, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.720 we were talking in the live stream. I would never 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.040 want to call for a general manager's job. Alaviland never 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.839 want to call for a general manager job. So I'm 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.160 just not going to say anything. I think that leaves 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:57.480 it at that. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:02.240 Yeah, it's a little ro in Detroit, and they were 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:03.880 open to make a big step in the right direction. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.880 That's why they signed Hobby Baias. But it's it's not 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.600 looking that working. No, not good, and the prospects are 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.120 not performing and they've got a lot to figure out 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.240 in a lot of overhauling, I think to do within 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:19.760 the system. You look at the Brewers. They subtract Josh Hater, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.080 which we talked about in the last episode. They get 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.720 a good return, but it was a head scratcher because 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.840 it's a first place team trading an all star closer. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.160 But they do add another reliever, and we know Devin 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.800 Williams is a capable closer. Although did you see that 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.319 clip of Devin Williams in the clubhouse? They were reporters 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.280 were asking him what he thought about the trade, and 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.000 obviously he's he's expected to be that the closer now 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.480 and he didn't seem thrilled about it. He's not thrilled 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.040 that he's going to be the closer. He's not thrilled, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.959 he's just upset that Josh Hater, one of the integral 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.120 parts of their team, has been subtracted. And I thought 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.600 that was pretty pretty interesting to see. He said I 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.080 want to win, and I think that was all he 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:57.960 really needed to say. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.440 I think it was there. It was one of those 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.720 press conferences that you have to watch Devin Williams say 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.560 the words. If you listen to it on the radio, 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.040 it may have come off as maybe a little nonchalant. 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.120 Not nonchalant, but just you know, he's not very vocal. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.800 He's not calling out anybody. He's just kind of sitting there. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:17.640 Depressed is the word. 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.440 The silence was deafening. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.040 The short islence was deafening. That is the perfect way 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.679 to describe it. He's just shrugging his shoulders, thinking to himself, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:28.240 how could they do it? 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.600 Yeah, we want to win. And this is a guy that, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.040 remember he feels like he cost his team last postseason 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.680 with punching the wall and you know, breaking his hand, 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.360 and I'm sure he's very keen on winning now. And 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.080 they subtract Hater, they do add Matt Bush, and I 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.000 love Matt Bush's story. Obviously, the former number one overall 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.160 pick is a shortstop makes his way back after a 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.520 time in jail. I mean, just an unbelievable story. It's 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.719 been a really good reliever and he's enjoying a really 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.480 good year this year. Brewers at him to the fold 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.920 and now of Williams Rogers Bush. They still have a 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:04.040 good back end of that bullpen there and it helps. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.719 He's not Josh hater, but it's a good addition. And 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.240 you know they didn't have to give up too much 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:08.640 to get him. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.760 Yeah, well, let's be real armed. Come on, what did 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.240 the Brewers need to do and what didn't they do? 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:20.440 The Brewers needed to add a fucking bat? Yeah, and 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:27.000 what didn't they do? Add a bat? Yeah, and we're 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.440 going to talk about how the padres. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.920 And they just didn't do it. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.559 And you know, for lack of a better word, the 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.839 Brewers didn't add a fucking bat. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:37.960 Yeah. No, that's all we have to say about that. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.480 All they did was add a story. Ruiz, who you know, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.520 is a is a minor leaguer at this point, he's 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.680 played a little bit in the bigs. Long term, could 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.800 be a good piece, But I think they're hoping that 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.439 he can impact them now and do something now, which 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.560 is which is crazy. I don't know how the Brewers 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.600 didn't add a bat. It's a little bit surprising, but 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.439 I will say they are sneaky good if you look 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.640 at runs per game, better than people would have expected. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.880 I want to rephrase one thing I said. I actually 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.680 said that they didn't give up that much. Let me 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.360 reverse that. I was surprised that they gave up Antoine. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.880 Kelly pitched in the futures game, probably a reliever long term, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.559 but a lefty who is really nasty, came back from 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.120 an injury and they part with him to get a 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:19.119 Matt Bush. So a good get there for the Texas Rangers. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.000 We'll stay on the reliever track. Peter another kind of surprising, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.480 but not maybe maybe not awe striking, but we didn't 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.760 know what the Orioles were going to do. They ultimately 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.720 part with their closer in Jorge Lopez, an All Star 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.960 this year for four minor leaguers Kaide Povich the headliner, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.360 and Yennier Cano, Juan Nunez and Juan Rojas. It's a 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:45.040 good return. It's four pitchers, which again Baltimore needs arms, 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.199 and they added six arms or so at this deadline, 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.679 and some really good ones. I like this move for Baltimore. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.520 Of course, you want to see them go for it. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.559 They didn't burn it down right. They traded Mancini, who 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.439 was going to be gone probably in the offseason. They 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.920 sell high on a closer, and they get six pitching prospects, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.000 which again they really needed. There's still a good team that. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.080 Let's be real, even if they sneak in the playoffs, 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.000 what are they doing there? They're trying to build sustainable success. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.000 As much as I wanted to see them go all in, 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:14.200 I don't hate it. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:19.000 I do wish the Orioles got a more marquee prospect 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.560 in return for Jorge Lopez. In my opinion, I don't 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.480 think they need that much depth, because, oh my god, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.360 do they have depth. I mean, they have one of 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.280 the most vast farm systems in baseball. I look at 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.880 that trade and I think, to myself, are any of 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.080 those guys big leaguers? 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:35.840 You know? I don't know. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.840 You hope so. But I feel like in a trade 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:44.760 for Jorge Lopez, even one marquee prospect, in my opinion, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.800 would have been better. In a deal like that, if 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.520 we're talking about a team like the Royals or you 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.119 know another team that needs. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.800 Depth like that. I don't feel that the Orioles need 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.240 depth like that. Need arms here, they need arms. So 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.800 they just went out and got Seth right in the 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:05.280 trainman scene. He's the third best pitching prospect now, So 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.080 you know, I think they look at it and we 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.280 need pitching depth in this system. Let's get it while 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.040 we can without depleting, you know, some of our better 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.120 assets because everybody else is too valuable and controllable. These 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.200 are the guys that I think they're okay with parting with, 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:21.760 but I don't hate it. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.200 Do you think would you have rather them got the 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.480 like a Seth Johnson in a deal like that for 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.200 a Jorge Lopez or do you prefer they got more 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.360 four lottery ticket guys where you're hoping one could be 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.800 a big leaguer instead of one of the best pitching 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.000 prospects for the Minnesota Twins. Because I thought the Minnesota 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.680 Twins did really well in that deal. 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.720 You know, I I think I think povich Is is 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.600 a big league arm right. I mean, this guy's probably 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.080 in their top twenty. Put up some good numbers this year. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.000 It's tough to gauge the value on a breakout reliever 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.000 like that, so I agree, like, if they could have 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.400 got one guy, absolutely I would have had I would 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.440 have went quality over quantity. I don't know if that 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.760 was an option there, That's my point. It could have 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.880 not been an option. That's kind of where I was at. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.640 But I'm good with them getting arms. They're in a 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.600 situation where I'm like, if you can get arms, get 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.480 freaking arms. And they did, so they're still in a 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.880 good spot. I think they can still make a little 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.640 bit of an Orioles push, and I think they might 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.720 call up some other guys to reinforce this run here, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.080 and I'm kind of excited to see how they decide 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.760 to manage Gunner Henderson and Triple A and Jordan Westberg 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.320 and Triple A and Kyle Stowers and Triple A. They've 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.640 got a lot of prospects that could be some reinforcements 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:35.680 down the stretch here. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.560 And then on the Twins side, they did real well. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.880 I mean, getting Jorge Lopez, who is having that breakout 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.800 yere who looks like a real closer, maybe not playoff 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.080 type closer, but at least a very very good bullpen arm. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.760 And then if he can't close, you get Michael Fulmer too. 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.360 So they did a great job. And we can even 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.600 get into Tyler Malley if we want to just go 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.680 straight into their let's just twins, because yeah, I might 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.720 as well just do twins because they get Tyler Malley. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.560 And this was an arm at the deadline that I 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.199 thought a lot of teams should be in on, and 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.560 a lot of teams were in on him because it 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.360 was clear with Tyler Malley he couldn't pitch a great American, 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.960 which I've said up before is basically a space station. 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.280 You're basically dealing with another version of coors Field. He's 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.720 always had these crazy splits where he's pitched much better 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:21.160 on the road. 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:22.439 You get him out. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.600 But it seems like the prospect package they did give up, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.919 at least going back to the Reds was pretty sizable. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.240 But the Twins are in a good position now, especially 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.920 with the other teams in their division not making it. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.080 But the prospects that went over are pretty solid, especially 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.199 that young second basement. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.639 Yeah, I mean they get Spencer Steer, who you know, 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.480 I love Steer for the Reds. Right, this is a 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.879 guy with above average power, but hits so much that 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.280 he produces a lot of home runs and has said 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.920 over twenty home runs already this season. I love guys 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.760 like that. John India was kind of in that same 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.200 ballpark where it's above average power but will really play 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.680 up at Great American. He's also again close to big 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.480 league ready. And then they get Christian and Carnassio on Strand, who, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.520 holy crap, does he have power. Twenty five pumps this 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.320 year he won four to eighty four. He has nine 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.879 home runs four hundred and twenty feet or further. And 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.120 then Steven Hager, who is Michigan guy, really has looked 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.719 good left handed pitcher. All guys that the Twins are 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:23.680 okay with parting with right like. None of those guys are elite, 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.320 elite prospects for them. Steers kind of blocked with the 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.439 emergence of Miranda. With the other guys that they have, 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.919 it's a perfect trade for both sides. Red system is 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.680 now clear cut top three in my opinion, and they 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.520 get somebody that can help the big league team as 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.280 soon as this year, probably for sure next year. I'm 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.119 sure he'll get caught up before the end of the season. 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.159 But man, dude, the Twins, they really separated themselves. We 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.919 talk about the Guardians didn't do anything the Twins. You 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.640 mentioned the relievers. They get the starter, they didn't really 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.880 need any bats that they're fine coosing. Miranda's going nuclear 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.040 right now. That's all they really needed to do, and 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.000 they shore up with kind of all the questions that 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.480 we had for them. What do you think the Twins 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:03.879 are at now? I mean, I think they're going to 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.080 easily win the division because Guardians were asleep at the wheel, 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.679 But where do you think they stack up with some 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:11.439 of the best teams in the AL. They're obviously not 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.000 there with the Yankees and the Astros, but they made 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.760 themselves a lot better and I think they've got a 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.000 shot to make some noise. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.520 My problem with the Twins is I didn't really believe 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.399 in their pitching, both in the starting rotation and in 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.199 the bullpen. What did they do address both needs? 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:27.960 Now? 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:33.080 In the bullpen they look really strong. Starting rotation Tyler 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.720 Mallley is, like I said, a good pick up there, 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:40.560 but still looking at this rotation, I'm not totally sold 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:42.280 to the fact where I'm going to put them with 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.119