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Speaker 1: All right, Texans, let's dig right in. Hello and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the program. I'm Mark VanderMeer with John Harris in

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Speaker 1: the Hyundai Texans radio studio wherever it might be coming from,

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Speaker 1: as we are ready to talk Texans football and Johnny

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Speaker 1: based on what happened last night in World Cup competition. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's like that scene in the Broadway show Hamilton where

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Speaker 1: you have all that strife and everything in the personal

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Speaker 1: life of Hamilton, and then Thomas Jefferson and James Madison

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Speaker 1: get back on stage and they're saying, can we get

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Speaker 1: back to politics? Well, I'm gonna say, can we get

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Speaker 1: back to American football?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Can we get back to our game? Because I'm done.

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Speaker 1: I'm done After last night NFL memes was hilarious. They

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Speaker 1: showed the kicker and the Giants kicker, well, who is

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Speaker 1: that young Wayku who did that?

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Speaker 2: Who stucked his toe?

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Speaker 1: And it said the entire nation knows what it feels

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Speaker 1: like to be a Giants fan right now. But you

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Speaker 1: could say that for a lot of teams, Cowboys fans

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, whatever, teams that get their hearts broken,

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Speaker 1: there are many, So we've had our hearts broken ourselves,

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Speaker 1: but the entire nation rooting got its heart broken last

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Speaker 1: night collectively, and we're ready to move on, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we are at this point. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's so many times I've heard I was listening to

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Speaker 3: Seth and Luke Morrow today and they were talking about.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's being to football. We're all ready to move

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Speaker 4: on to football.

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Speaker 3: The problem for a lot of other countries is they're football.

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Speaker 4: That's all I've got so hot, they wallow in it

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Speaker 4: for the next four years. But I think what and

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Speaker 4: I think this is there have.

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Speaker 3: Been many times where I think this has happened throughout

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Speaker 3: time for different teams. I think it happened to us

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. And that's balancing expectation and expectations

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Speaker 3: because in twenty twenty three, nobody expected us to do

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Speaker 3: anything right, and then we have this season of all seasons,

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Speaker 3: it's so joyful and we'd loved it. We came back

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four and all of a sudden, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: the tech since they're this fun young team, as Peter

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Speaker 3: Scheer would say, and you know, Robert Mays is sending

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Speaker 3: us to the Super Bowl, and then things go sideways.

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Speaker 3: For a team that is led by a second year quarterback,

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Speaker 3: second year head coach, second year offensive coordinator, struggled a

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Speaker 3: little bit, lost all the receivers basically, especially going into

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, and yeah, and so the expectations had gotten

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Speaker 3: so high that as soon as we didn't meet them,

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Speaker 3: it was, you know, well damn the Texans, you know,

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Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of what happened to us soccer.

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Speaker 4: There was so the expectations.

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Speaker 3: Grew over the first two three weeks of the World

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Speaker 3: Cup and then getting Balligan back after the red card whatever,

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Speaker 3: it was like, okay, let's go. And then you watched

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Speaker 3: last night and went, whoa, we look slow. They don't

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Speaker 3: they're not making they look scared. The first goal that

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Speaker 3: Belgium scored, the ball went up in the air and

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Speaker 3: three Americans all kind of looked at it like the

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Speaker 3: Spider Man me like, oh no, you you, you got

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Speaker 3: you got, and all of a sudden, they're guy falls

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Speaker 3: it's like everything just looked wrong. But it looked like

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Speaker 3: a team that was fighting expectations. One of the biggest things.

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Speaker 3: They just looked slow. They didn't look like they were

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Speaker 3: moving at the same pace they had earlier. And I

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Speaker 3: think Belgium can do that to you. Belgium's got really

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Speaker 3: two those players in the world. They had on a

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Speaker 3: bench to start the game, Jeremy Doku and Kevin de Bruyne.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this this week already, you're crushing it

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Speaker 1: with these statements. Yesterday it was there's a scene where

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Speaker 1: they're going through the woods. That's what you said about

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Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz. There's this scene and I thought

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Speaker 1: that was hilarious, you know, describing the Wizard of Oz

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Speaker 1: like it's a movie that no one's see And today

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Speaker 1: today you said Belgium can do that to you things

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Speaker 1: I never thought i'd hear on this radio program. Ever,

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Speaker 1: Belgium can do that to you.

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Speaker 2: You know that, well Belgium.

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Speaker 1: I mean look, no, I know, I know I'm saying

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Speaker 1: dominating it. Yeah, oh yeah, they dominated. They were better,

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Speaker 1: there's no question. Look, I don't know much about soccer,

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Speaker 1: but I know, oh, not playing well, not being up

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Speaker 1: the deer in the headlights. Look, I know that when

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Speaker 1: I see it, and that's what I saw last night.

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Speaker 1: They had that exactly right. And it's just you're in

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Speaker 1: the headlights. You just said it deer in the headlights.

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Speaker 1: That's the way they look like.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, And you're at home past that, I mean, I know,

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Speaker 3: I look, there's no explain I mean, Baligan hardly touched

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Speaker 4: And and and he's and and here's here's the difference.

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Speaker 3: And look, I know early in Holland for Norway is

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Speaker 3: the best, one of the best players and one of

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Speaker 3: the best scores on a planet.

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Speaker 4: He's also six five to ten.

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Speaker 3: It's it's like a you know, it's like having a

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Speaker 3: taller Andre Johnson play striker for you's. He barely touched

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Speaker 3: the ball against Brazil, but once he touched it in

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Speaker 3: the second half.

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Speaker 2: Bank Bank two goals amazing.

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Speaker 3: And Balligan Baligan touched the ball very little, and when

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Speaker 3: he did, he was very ineffective. Uh, you you've gotta

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Speaker 3: have you gotta have basket, get you gotta have bucket.

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Speaker 4: Getterers, man, you gotta guys that go get a bucket.

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Speaker 3: Belgium obviously had a few of those guys that can

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Speaker 3: go get a bucket. So it ended in such disappointing fashion,

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Speaker 3: you know, And again if you know, kind of bring

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Speaker 3: it back to the Texans in some sense. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's that thought of, well, you can't get past the

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Speaker 3: division round, you can't get past the division round. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'd say it's can't get passed around to sixteen, And

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Speaker 3: that's that's frustrated, because you feel like if you could

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Speaker 3: break through, hey, who knows what you could do. I

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Speaker 3: feel like the Texans were more ready for the moment

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Speaker 3: and then just played it, just played their worst game

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Speaker 3: of the year, especially the offensive the Patriots. Yeah, whereas

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Americans last night just weren't up

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Speaker 3: to Belgium's caliber and they didn't play well at all.

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Speaker 3: So it was neither one of them, you know. So

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Speaker 3: you know, four years from now, I don't even know

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Speaker 3: where it is in four years, but uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: hopefully they'll get better in this Golden generation will eventually

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Speaker 3: go win some sort of medal.

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Speaker 1: Or title with all this talent they have. Apparently just

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Speaker 1: I'm over it right now. But you said a couple

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Speaker 1: of things there. One of them was some people who

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Speaker 1: are diehard soccer fans, they'll just have to wait another

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Speaker 1: four years. But if you are a diehard soccer fan,

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot to look forward to because you

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Speaker 1: probably have a club team you root for. There's still

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Speaker 1: this Nations League. I was reading the Netherlands, my team

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Speaker 1: that flamed out last week. I was reading that they're

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Speaker 1: in this Nation's league and they are play games starting

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Speaker 1: in September.

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Speaker 2: You have so many different things that you can root for.

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Speaker 1: Champions League if you happen to be in that, if

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Speaker 1: your club is in that, and the euro Club Championship,

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Speaker 1: the euro if you're a European team fan. In two

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Speaker 1: years you got one of those, right, and that's huge.

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Speaker 1: So let's just see what happens here. They've got plenty

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Speaker 1: to root for you and I'll go to some Premier

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Speaker 1: League game when we're in London in week what is

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Speaker 1: that seven?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Or by the way, okay, got a couple of things. Okay.

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Speaker 3: One when we went to London in twenty nineteen, yep,

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Speaker 3: we were invited to go watch Fulham playing.

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Speaker 4: At that point they were in the Championship.

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Speaker 2: Yep that day. They need the Championship league, folks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to be clear.

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Speaker 1: People don't understand this stuff. Johnny, You understand it, but

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Speaker 1: people don't. It took me a long time to get

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Speaker 1: that way. What do you talk about you? Why do

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Speaker 1: they call it the championship? This is a whole league,

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Speaker 1: and you're confusing everybody by calling a championship. I keep thinking,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching a championship, Johnny. They do that here with

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Speaker 1: isn't the USL called the USL Championship or is that

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Speaker 1: a division of the USSEL not MLS but the USL.

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Speaker 1: And they flashed it on the screen when I was

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Speaker 1: flicking around one night and I thought, wait, this is

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Speaker 1: a championship game. Oh no, the league is called championship.

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Speaker 1: Stop just stop it. Okay, Well, certain things we do better,

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Speaker 1: and this is one of them. We call a championship

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Speaker 1: a championship when it's a championship, not when it's a

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Speaker 1: league called the championship. Sorry, go on, That's what they

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Speaker 1: call it in geez English soccer, it's called the championship.

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Speaker 4: Like you say to somebody English, A, hey, they're.

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Speaker 3: In the champs You know that you're in the division

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Speaker 3: just below the Premier League, right, So they were in

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Speaker 3: that division as they call it, the championship. And Fulham

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Speaker 3: played Whole City. When we go back to London the

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Speaker 3: Saturday before we play the Jaguars. Fulham again plays Whole City,

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Speaker 3: but this time in the Premier League.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I've got chills.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Whole City actually was supposed to be Wrexham.

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Speaker 2: Really, what do you mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So in the in the Championship, the top two teams

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Speaker 3: make are they get an automatic promotion. The next four

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Speaker 3: teams go to a four team playoff and so those

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Speaker 3: four teams went to a playoff and going into the

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Speaker 3: final match of the year, Wrexham was spot number six.

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Speaker 3: They just they had to win though they couldn't draw.

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Speaker 3: They had to win. They had a draw, and they're

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Speaker 3: out because they because they had a draw, Whole City

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Speaker 3: jumped into the sixth spot. But then get this mark

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Speaker 3: Whole City is supposed to play and I can't.

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Speaker 4: I think it was middle Broough.

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Speaker 3: Middle Borough has a Belichick Spygate situation. They get bumped

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Speaker 3: out of the playoff. They don't move Wrexham back into it.

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Speaker 3: They bump them out. They give Hull City an automatic

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Speaker 4: That's not fair, I know.

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Speaker 3: Hull City then wins the playoff and goes to the

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Speaker 3: Premier League.

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Speaker 1: How about how about that that.

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Speaker 4: If they would have just won the last match.

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Speaker 3: Now they ended up playing it was it was one

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Speaker 4: People were just gutted, but they won that. They would

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Speaker 4: have been in the Whole City spot.

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Speaker 3: They would have been in Wembley playing to go to

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Speaker 3: the Whole City ends up going to the Premier League

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Speaker 3: and Wrexham's gotta stay.

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Speaker 4: In Championship one more year.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: That Rexam Navy show was on a roll, with them

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Speaker 1: being upgraded just about every year other than the first,

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Speaker 1: and they blew it this past season.

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Speaker 2: Is this season out yet? That tells the story?

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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 4: It's all It's all out.

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Speaker 3: That's okay. I watched the whole thing. Oh but I

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Speaker 3: but I knew about the whole Whole City thing before

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Speaker 3: it came out. I was interested in how they would

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Speaker 3: what I what I didn't know was the Spygate situation.

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Speaker 3: Mark Middlebrough had literally a guy hiding behind a tree

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna learn in soccer, Johnny, Oh, when

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Speaker 1: we never saw that coming. Seriously, I know their strategy.

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Speaker 2: Little bit here, but what are you gonna really steal?

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Speaker 2: Not oh, you were.

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Speaker 1: Projected or expected to win six and he won seven

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Speaker 1: Seasons where we had certain expectations of this is a

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Speaker 1: year one, Johnny, I would call this exceeding expectations when

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Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa not good? Uh.

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Speaker 1: Let's back up a little bit, because oh, you brought

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Speaker 1: This team should have some expectations to be at least good,

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Speaker 1: I went over that season recently, that hot finish when

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Speaker 1: I think that season exceeds expectations, even though you thought

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think that was one after

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Speaker 3: It's like, Yeah, that takes the expectations to the highest level.

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Speaker 2: It's another era too.

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Speaker 1: I think players these days say that kind of stuff more.

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Speaker 2: No one saw that coming.

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Speaker 1: You thought, Okay, this should at least be a good

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Speaker 1: And you're thinking, oh, no way, Mark, They're coming off

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. And I'm not saying it is

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Speaker 1: I never count my chickens, and I think they don't either.

437
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Speaker 1: They know that you got to bring it every single day.

438
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Speaker 1: And Demiko began the off season program saying, you know,

439
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Speaker 1: welcome to the start of it. It's a brand new year.

440
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what we did last year, no one cares.

441
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Speaker 1: We'd love to get right back to the divisional round

442
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: and try again, but you can't get back there right now.

443
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: All you can do is have a good ota practice

444
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 1: and that's how we focused the team this offseason, and

445
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Speaker 1: we'll see where they end up in the postseason assuming

446
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: and you can never assume, but you hope that they

447
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Speaker 1: get there, all right, Johnny Projections Mike Clay from ESPN

448
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: does this stuff win total projections, but more specifically, for

449
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: this conversation stat projections, I'm going to ask you. I've

450
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: got some numbers here, and you tell me. Will you

451
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: take it? Or will you take what's behind door number two?

452
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: You get to play Wayne Brady, Monty Hall. Let's make

453
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Speaker 1: a Texans deal.

454
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Speaker 4: Are you ready to go? All right? Let's go?

455
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Speaker 2: All right? Ready to go? Here we are, CJ. Stroud.

456
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Speaker 2: Here's Mike Clay's projection.

457
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Speaker 1: Almost four thousand yards, twenty one tds, twelve picks, ouch

458
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Speaker 1: sacked thirty nine times. Will you take it? Or take

459
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: what's behind door number two?

460
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Speaker 4: Again?

461
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: Almost four thousand yards? Or do you want to hear

462
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Speaker 1: other numbers first? I'm just gonna give you the blind CJ. Numbers,

463
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Speaker 1: and you gotta tell me.

464
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 3: I mean that yardage total will always kind of scares

465
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Speaker 3: me because when a guy's throwing for a lot of yards, okay,

466
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Speaker 3: they're doing it in a comeback y, you know, they

467
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 3: piling stuff up in the fourth quarter.

468
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Speaker 4: So I'm not really the yardage.

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Speaker 1: He's got numbers for Mills too, Johnny, so CJ. All right,

470
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Speaker 1: I'll give you those CJ three for almost four one thousand.

471
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Speaker 1: According to Mike Clay's projections for twenty twenty six, Mills

472
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Speaker 1: throws for one forty six, so that looks like mop

473
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Speaker 1: up stuff. Both played seventeen games. He has everybody going seventeen.

474
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Speaker 1: By the way, this is a seventeen game projection for Clay,

475
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Speaker 1: so that's just mop up stuff. And here's the running

476
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Speaker 1: total for CJ. One rushing touchdown, two hundred and forty

477
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Speaker 1: nine yards total. I'd like to see a few more

478
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Speaker 1: running yards, a few more, but I don't know. I

479
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: almost take this. I don't like the twelve picks. Twenty

480
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Speaker 1: one and twelve to me, is not great, not great

481
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Speaker 1: at all. It's not terrible, but it's not what you

482
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Speaker 1: want to see this season.

483
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Speaker 2: I'm torn.

484
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Speaker 4: Well, here's here's The other thing, too, is it's only

485
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Speaker 4: they did their math wrong, but you know they did

486
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Speaker 4: their looking. I'm looking at the okay, so I'm taking

487
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Speaker 4: it all in total.

488
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Speaker 2: Okay, now you're looking at rushing yards.

489
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Speaker 3: Yeah, before I tell you, before I tell you what

490
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 3: I want to do with CJ.

491
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give it a money.

492
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Speaker 3: I got twenty one touchdowns for CJ. One touchdown for Mills.

493
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Speaker 3: That's twenty two, then one rushing touchdown for CJ, ten

494
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Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns for the running backs, and none else. He

495
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Speaker 3: has twelve listed, but it's actually eleven. So that's thirty

496
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Speaker 3: three touchdowns. That's less than two touchdowns a game. Are

497
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Speaker 3: we happy with that? My point is, I don't know

498
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Speaker 3: if I like that twenty one touchdown number for CJ.

499
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Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like the difference in twenty

500
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Speaker 3: five touchdowns and twenty one touchdowns makes a difference.

501
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Speaker 4: In a win, maybe even two. So I don't know.

502
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Speaker 3: The yardage is fine, getting the almost four thousand yards, Okay,

503
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: that's fine. I don't love twelve interceptions, but then again,

504
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Speaker 3: I you know, there's a part of me that I

505
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: don't mind interceptions because of this defense. I just I

506
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: don't want to see him in the red zone, and

507
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to see interceptions like we're thrown against

508
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Speaker 3: New England.

509
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Speaker 4: In those four in the first half. None of the

510
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: those four were even close to being in you know, completions.

511
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 4: You know he threw the one ball.

512
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: Were way behind Xavier Hutchinson. I think it was his

513
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: fourth interception. The third one went off Ex's hands, like,

514
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: that's one. I think Nico catches it. I think x

515
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: on a normal day probably catches that. But he had

516
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Speaker 3: two others. The one he should have never thrown at

517
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Speaker 3: Marcus Jones return, and then he had the one where

518
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: he seemingly tried to throw it out of bounds and

519
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: Carlton Davis made a great diving catch.

520
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Speaker 4: It was like, those are just inexcusable.

521
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: So if you if you throw twelve interceptions where a

522
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: guy makes a play or you know, okay, he misreads

523
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 3: a coverage here or there, okay, but as long as

524
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: they are not the inexcusable ones, like I thought a

525
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 3: couple of them were thrown in the Patriots game. I

526
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 3: could probably live with twelve interceptions. I don't know Mark

527
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 3: that could live with twenty one touchdowns. I feel like

528
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: we've got to have at least twenty five, especially if

529
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Speaker 3: we're only gonna rush for ten i'm sorry, eleven touchdowns.

530
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: I feel like we've got to have at least twenty

531
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Speaker 3: five passing touchdowns. So I'll take the yardage. I'd even

532
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Speaker 3: take the interceptions. I think the rushing yards for CG

533
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 3: at two forty nine and a touchdown okay, maybe another

534
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: sneaker too for a rushing touchdown'd be great, But I

535
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: feel like that touchdown total has got to be at

536
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Speaker 3: twenty five.

537
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: How about this, He's got Nico with eighty six catches.

538
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: This is Mike Clay's projections for twenty twenty six form ESPN.

539
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: Nico with eighty six catches, Higgins with fifty four, Noel

540
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: with forty. Right, So last year Nico had what seventy one,

541
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: Higgins had forty one, Noel had twenty six. So Higgins

542
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: and Nol up their total. Nico does a little bit too.

543
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: Dalton had eighty two catches last year. What does he

544
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: have Dalton for this year? It is nine fifty nine nine,

545
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, Dalton a lot less, Nico a little more,

546
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: Higgins and Nol a little more. I like spreading it

547
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: out a little bit like that, but I gotta see

548
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: more Tank Dell. Interestingly enough, he has him playing and

549
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: catching twenty four balls, which I like. I'd like to

550
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: see more if Tank's gonna play.

551
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: But okay, let me say this Mark. If Tank is

552
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: gonna play, he's got him down for seventeen games. He's

553
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: got everybody down for seventeen games. But if Tank is

554
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: gonna play seventeen games, he's healthy enough play seventeen catching.

555
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: There's no chance in the hell he's catching twenty four.

556
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: And there's no chance in hell that he is having

557
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 3: two targets basically per game. Like Tank's gonna get his

558
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: targets if Tank is playing seventeen look a Tank. Yes,

559
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: the only way Tank is getting twenty four receptions is

560
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: if that number is eight games or nine games. But

561
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: if Tank is playing seventeen games this year, that number

562
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: is gonna be forty five to fifty. If he's playing

563
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: seventeen games.

564
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: Am I safe to say that neither of us is

565
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: okay with any of these passing and receiving numbers. We'd

566
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Speaker 1: take what's behind door number two. I think I would.

567
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: I think I would too. I think Higgins does more.

568
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: I think Jalen I think NOL does a little bit more,

569
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: and I think Tank think definitely does a little bit more. Now,

570
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: look when I take eighty six for twelve thirteen seven

571
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: touchdowns for Nico, Hell, yes, I would.

572
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: But the group the group, but as a group, yeah.

573
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: I don't don't. I don't think that. I don't think

574
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: that group total is even close.

575
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the catch numbers are okay, it's the touchdown

576
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: reception numbers that really push it off the table for

577
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: me and make me want to see what's behind door

578
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: number two? So yes, running backs, though, let's just take

579
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: the ground game here, Johnny, because as CJ throws, it's weird.

580
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: He throws for four thousand yards and only twenty one touchdowns.

581
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: So are the backs like scoring touchdowns and droves?

582
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: Not really?

583
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: According to Mike Clay's projections, David Montgomery, nine hundred and

584
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: thirty yards, okay, seven touchdowns, okay, okay, okay, but what

585
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: do you do five hundred and seventy nine yards?

586
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: All right? So okay, all right, I get it.

587
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: You know you're looking at fifteen hundred yards between the

588
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: two backs. I would definitely take that number over what's

589
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: behind door number two?

590
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you?

591
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Fifteen hundred yards for the two backs done because Jauar

592
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: still contributes fifty four British Brooks eighteen. Those are just whatever.

593
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: But those two guys racking up fifteen hundred I like that.

594
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: And the four thousand by CJ nearly four thousand. That's

595
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: pretty good. Sixty five hundred yards for your two big

596
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: backs and for CJ's throwing numbers. I gotta see more

597
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: touchdowns though this team is not scoring according to Mike

598
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: Clay's projections.

599
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's what bothers me a little bit.

600
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: That's the rushing yards between those two. That's fifteen oh

601
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: nine and that's I mean, and that's three hundred what

602
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: three fifty seven, that's four point two yards of carrying Mark?

603
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: Would you take four point two yards of Carrick?

604
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: Yes, heck yeah, I would take a two backs.

605
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: So you're talking fifteen oh nine rushing and then you're

606
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: talking another four thirty two. And by the way, Mike

607
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: Clay's math stinks. It doesn't add up, is it doesn't?

608
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: It doesn't add up? Yeah, two in sixteens eighteen plus

609
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: five is twenty three.

610
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: Like his mass sucks. So we got to talk to

611
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: let's do sacks. Yeah, the maths, let's do sacks.

612
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: Daniel eleven Will twelve point two, twelve point two. I

613
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: guess that's just how he's doing it. Dominique brings in three,

614
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: Dylan Horton two. Look Will and Daniel. I'd like to

615
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: see more. I think I'll take what's behind door number

616
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: two with the with the defensive ends as a group,

617
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: I need to see more than that. You know, I'm

618
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: looking at the sacks for everybody else flying in as

619
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Speaker 1: ease with one according to Mike Clay's projections, I don't

620
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: like that either. Picks quickly, Stingley with what is this like? Two,

621
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Speaker 1: Lassiter with two, Bullock with only two. Johnny Bullock is

622
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: the most disrespected offseason player.

623
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Speaker 2: In this league. I think this is ridiculous.

624
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: So right before the show started, Mark I Albert Breer

625
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: did an article ranking the NFL's five best safety.

626
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: Duos for twenty two six.

627
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

628
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: I look, Bengals Jordan Battle, Brian Cook. You can miss

629
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: me with that, Broncos Brandon Jones. Tellnolfanga, it's a good

630
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: it's said.

631
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Speaker 4: Number four. I don't know.

632
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: Xavier McKinney, Evan Williams, the Packers is number three.

633
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: It's a good duo.

634
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton, Malchi Starks okay, and then the Falcons with

635
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: Xavier Watts and Jesse Bates the third. You can't tell

636
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: me that three of those groups are better than Kaylen

637
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: Bullock and Red Blanket Ship right now. I mean, come on,

638
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 3: but I the you know, Kaylan, Kaylen, you won't come

639
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: out and say it, and maybe people don't see it

640
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: as such, but Chad Ruders is seven round mock draft

641
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: of all the NFL players. Kayln's not on that. My

642
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: guess is Kaylen won't be in a top one hundred

643
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 3: in these best safety duos.

644
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: He's not mentioned.

645
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: You know, Mike Clay has him four two interceptions for

646
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 3: this season when he's had what four and five or

647
00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: five and six.

648
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: In both of his first two years.

649
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: It does It doesn't make a ball while the best

650
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: ballhawk in this league basically he's getting no run. So

651
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I will, I will take what's behind

652
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Speaker 3: door number two for the sacks because I think behind

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Speaker 3: Will and Daniel, I mean Dominice Robinson and Dan Horten

654
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: combined for five point one. Look, I'm not saying they're

655
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: gonna get twenty or twenty five. But I think the

656
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: guys that are behind the Neil Hunter and Will Anderson Junior,

657
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: because I do think there's another guy at some point

658
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: that's gonna end up in that edge group. You said

659
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Speaker 3: it interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's ridiculous.

661
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Speaker 1: Lot.

662
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: He takes the ball away from everybody.

663
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Speaker 1: Nine picks at his first two years. You think he's

664
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Speaker 1: gonna have two this year. If he does. No one's

665
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: throwing at him. Oh wait, he's a safety. You have

666
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: to throw near him at some point and he's gonna

667
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: go get it. All right, coming up, Blake Fisher wants

668
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: to go get it as.

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00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: The swing guy and maybe more.

670
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Speaker 1: And we'll talk to him about what's on his mind

671
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Speaker 1: this offseason next year on Texans Radio. As promised as

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Speaker 1: we welcome you back into the day Texans Radio Studio,

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Speaker 1: Blake Fisher, offensive lineman tackle entering year three out of

674
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: no trade dame. Now let's get into our conversation we

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00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: had with him at Internal Media Days. So this is

676
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: Blake coming off of OTAs and the mini camp into

677
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: the long break between mini camp and training camp and

678
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: how he's doing.

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Speaker 5: I've been here just training with Mike and Pimo around

680
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 5: the facility, like during the off season, I was here

681
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 5: the whole time working out with them.

682
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'd see every day. Yeah, I mean you hear

683
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 4: every day.

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00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: I mean there have been that's been kind of a

685
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: consistent theme, Blake, with guys seemingly sticking around and staying

686
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: during that period. Yeah, guys are away before the offseason starts.

687
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: Really what was that? What was that period like for

688
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: you where you were able to just kind of focus

689
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: on your body, just focus on getting right with Mike

690
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: and the staff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was great. I mean I think

692
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: they had a specific plan for me, like through Mike,

693
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 5: through PMO, through like lad like in the nutrition staff.

694
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Speaker 5: I think I mean really being able to sleep my

695
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 5: body down while still like being able to still put

696
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 5: on like you know, like the weight, like putting on

697
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: my weight and then like you know, the body fat

698
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 5: working on that as well. So I mean, I mean

699
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: it was it was a lot of hard work from

700
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: February all the way up until now. So I mean

701
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 5: it was great though.

702
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Blake, you could settle something once and for all.

703
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: Right now, because I've been told we work with Audrey.

704
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: Were on the booth and he said, hey, right tackle

705
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: and left tackle. It's like try to put your pants

706
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: on with the different leg first, or try to your

707
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: shirt or whatever it is. How is it for you

708
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: left versus right? The difference I would.

709
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 5: Definitely say probably like right is more comfortable, Like I'd

710
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 5: have to be a little bit more locked in, like

711
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 5: on my technique when I'm over at left, just because

712
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 5: like it's not like what I played like the most,

713
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 5: but like both of them are still like comfortable at

714
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 5: the same time, you know. Like like some guys will

715
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 5: tell you like there stands to be a little different

716
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 5: on the like the left side versus the right side.

717
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 5: I can agree with that, just because like the mechanics

718
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 5: and so forth can be like different, like setting run blocking,

719
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 5: Like sometimes guys are more comfortable like pressing out the

720
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 5: left foot than they are the right foot, or going

721
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 5: vertical more than they are, you know, one way or another.

722
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 5: But I feel pretty comfortable at both. I think, you know,

723
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 5: co pop Popovich has done a great job of like

724
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 5: making sure that I'm prepared at both spots and just

725
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 5: making sure that I feel comfortable at both spots.

726
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: So a lot of times when you go into a

727
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: ball game you have to tell the ref are you

728
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 3: ever fearful. Oh my gosh, did I tell the ref?

729
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, Like, I know you do it pretty religiously.

730
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: I watch you do it from down at the field.

731
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: But is that tough to remember? Like, Oh, I got

732
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: to make sure I tell the ref I'm going to

733
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: the game when you are at tight end.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I would say, like if there's like a timeout

735
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 5: or something like that, Yeah, and you like tell them

736
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 5: at the beginning of the time out, and then you know,

737
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 5: they get to talking and mingling, and then do they

738
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 5: remember they remember? They like, you know, because I think

739
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 5: one time in a game they forgot. I can't remember

740
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 5: what game it might have been, like Tampa Bay and

741
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 5: we got called for a penalty bendy on a goal line. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

742
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 5: yeah I remember that you reported?

743
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy for sure. All Right, So how is the

744
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: room different with all of these guys?

745
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 5: Oh? Man, I would say it's definitely different, but like,

746
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 5: like the camaraderie is still great between like amongst everybody,

747
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 5: Like just the personalities are definitely a lot different, but

748
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 5: everybody's like buying in to what we're doing, to what

749
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 5: the standard is here, and I feel like, you know,

750
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 5: like it's like to go and excel when.

751
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: You hear We talked to some guys that we talked

752
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: to ed a little while ago and asked them, this,

753
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: you run the same when you're a Notre dame. You guys,

754
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: I think we're running the same thing for the years

755
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: you were there. You come here, you run an offense,

756
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden that gets changed. And also

757
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: everybody's learning a new offense, and so you're hearing things

758
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: the first time. How's it been going through otis thus far?

759
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: Like where you're hearing the same calls, you're hearing the

760
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: same thing, and how different is it from year one

761
00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: to year two?

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00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 5: In that regard, I would say like it builds confidence,

763
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 5: especially when you're learning something new or some things that

764
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 5: like a lot of our schemes like they're similar in ways,

765
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 5: so like you can get caught up in ways that

766
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, like from year one to

767
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 5: year two in a system, like you're like, ah, that's

768
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 5: what that is.

769
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 4: Oh I hear that wording, like like.

770
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 5: That's what that means? Or I got a tight end

771
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 5: on the backside, or this is a base run or

772
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: a suburb like certain things like that, like just hearing

773
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 5: terminology and just like learning more and understanding the playbook

774
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 5: even more, Like from year one to year two.

775
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: What's it been like for the last year, So to

776
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: be around tramp Brown amazing?

777
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 5: I mean he's a vet. What is form like year twelve,

778
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 5: year thirteen, So like a lot of the guys he's played, like,

779
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: he's been able to see like the transformation between like

780
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 5: what the league used to be like to what it

781
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 5: is now. Like I mean, like the edge rushers and

782
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 5: so forth, Like the way guys are built, how they

783
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 5: come off the ball is a lot different from when

784
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 5: he first got a lead to now. So like he's

785
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 5: been able to play against like you know, like maybe

786
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 5: not the most elite as rusher like when he first

787
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 5: got lead to like now, Like like those are guys that,

788
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 5: like the best best players on the field, you know

789
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I mean they've always been the best

790
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 5: players on the field, but like the dynamics in which

791
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 5: they rush now versus how they used to rush is

792
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 5: a lot different. I Mean we see it on film

793
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 5: all the time and he'll tell you that too. So

794
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 5: just being able to like learn from him and understand

795
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 5: like what's different between back then and now and how

796
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 5: do you like grasp it and understand how do you

797
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 5: like play within like your techniques and your abilities blake.

798
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: As you get ready for a game and you're getting

799
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: ready to face you know, pick an edge rusher or

800
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: you're getting ready to face a team, how much you

801
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 3: focused on just that particular edge rusher that you gotta face?

802
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: So tickets to Max Crosby the Raiders.

803
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: How much are you watching just specifically what Max Crosby

804
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 3: is doing to get you ready for that game? Versus, Hey,

805
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: the Raiders defense does all this, but how much you focused.

806
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: On just him? Yeah?

807
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 5: I mean I think specifically like you obviously you gonna

808
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 5: watch your matchup and I like to go watch like

809
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 5: some like like really good tackles like I feel like

810
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 5: are similar to me. You're kind of have the same

811
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: like body type of me, and they just kind of

812
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 5: see how they attacked that player first, and then kind

813
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 5: of how am I gonna build build my strengths, you know,

814
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 5: within my abilities to be able to to block this guy?

815
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 5: What does he do best? What are his go tos? Like,

816
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: you know, like where does he have trouble? What does

817
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 5: he have trouble with? And then from there, I mean

818
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 5: I think I think the rest of it just comes

819
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 5: down to you and your technique, because I mean, like

820
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 5: it's balld. They get paid too, So I mean you'll

821
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: get beat, but you can also recover. You use your

822
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 5: hand swiped and stuff is gonna happen. But you still

823
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 5: gotta play within your abilities, within your techniques, and then

824
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: like within the within the game, you just gotta play football.

825
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: Blake, you grew up outside Indianapolis, right, so did you

826
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: grow up a Colts fan?

827
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: It's okay if you did.

828
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I would definitely say I didn't really grow

829
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: up a Colts fan, like honestly, like I didn't really

830
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 5: like I was more like a Pacer fan, like Paul George,

831
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 5: like georgiall like yeah, like so like the like like

832
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 5: they were cool, but you know, like Andrew looking he

833
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 5: really tired and everything, so like from there, I mean

834
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 5: we had paint many too though, so don't get me wrong,

835
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 5: but I wasn't like really like the craziest close fit

836
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 5: growing up.

837
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: All Right, So you go to Notre Dame.

838
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know if you can speak to this,

839
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: but if the Bears move into northern Indiana.

840
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 5: It was like him in Indiana or something like that.

841
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you think that there are Bears fans

842
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: already up there because it's so far north and so

843
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: close to Chicago versus Indianapolis.

844
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 5: I would say maybe, like maybe like closer than the

845
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 5: worst maybe, but like the Indianapolis, I don't really hear

846
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 5: anything about like the Bears until you get the Chicago.

847
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 5: Like as soon as you get the Chicago is Chicago everything.

848
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chicago Bears.

849
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: So if you were starting your college career, now, do

850
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: you see yourself staying at Notre Dame of all four

851
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: years or all the years of your college career.

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00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 5: Anyway, I would probably say yeah, money is sweet, Yeah,

853
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 5: and I have definitely money sweet. I mean I heard

854
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 5: another name got some decent nim.

855
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: Money right, Oh, they've got decent.

856
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 5: I would say, yeah, absolutely. Like I love Notre Dame.

857
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 5: I loved everything about Notre Dame. It wasn't just like

858
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: you know, like for football, like like the camaraderie of

859
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 5: the people, like just the environment, the culture, the atmosphere

860
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: that I was in. And it just helped me to

861
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 5: grow as like a man, like grow into being a

862
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 5: man from like being like a young young man.

863
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 3: So after this week, going a little bit of a break.

864
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: What's the plans for the break? You're gonna go back home,

865
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna stay here.

866
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go home for a little bit just to

867
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 5: see my feeple, see my family, and then I'm gonna

868
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 5: get back here, probably trading with miking them again. Yeah,

869
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 5: and then do a little.

870
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 4: House side work.

871
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 5: Obviously football specific stuff because obviously we come back we

872
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: get straight into camp, so football specific working and obviously training,

873
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 5: keeping my body in shape, keep staying in shape, and

874
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 5: just progressing.

875
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: Has that changed at all as you progress throughout your career.

876
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: You're still very young a couple of years in, so

877
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: you tell us as far as just how you take

878
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: care of your body getting ready for things.

879
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 5: I would definitely say yeah, definitely from rookie year to now,

880
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 5: like just like like understanding like that the value of

881
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 5: treatment and recovery. Like I feel like rookie year, I

882
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 5: was like, you know, like I'm hurting, but it's not

883
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 5: crazy now like even in like going into year three,

884
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm hurt, Like I need to look like

885
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 5: lower bag. Stuff starts hurting that you never really had

886
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: problems with before. Just getting older and just battling and

887
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 5: grinding every day. That's what comes with it.

888
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: A couple of quick comments before we let you go

889
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: on some of your old lineman teammates.

890
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 5: Wyatt Teller amazing, goofy, like I would probably say, just

891
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 5: just hilarious, open, very open personality, hardworking.

892
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love him, Brandon Smith.

893
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 5: Love him be like he's right next to me in

894
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: the locker room, like he's quiet, but he's not quiet.

895
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 5: I think he just got to really get to know

896
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 5: him a little bit. Good dude. I mean he was

897
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 5: in Indy, so like we talk all the time. Obviously

898
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 5: that's home for me. He was there for for a

899
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 5: long time. So great guy. Evan Brown ev e b

900
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 5: great guy as well. Hardworking, I feel like strong Evan strong,

901
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 5: Like I mean he came into the weight room he

902
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 5: was throwing up like four hundred pounds on bench like strong.

903
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, that dude is a brick.

904
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 5: All right, rookies, right, I love Key hard worker, determined,

905
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 5: always like locked in trying to figure out how to

906
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 5: be better. I mean he's just he love to finish too,

907
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 5: Like you know, he's a finisher for bet you we

908
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 5: will yeah for bet you Uh smart Uh he just

909
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: gotta like, uh just slow down a little bit like Bet,

910
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 5: like he he wanted to be so right all the time,

911
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 5: and like he just wants to like get everything right

912
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 5: the first time. You can tell like sometimes he can

913
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 5: overthink a little bit. He's gonna be a great player,

914
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 5: Like you can just tell from his work ethic and

915
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 5: how hard he wants to work. Like coach asked him something,

916
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 5: he already on it, like he already ready like to

917
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 5: answer the question.

918
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: I love Bet outstanding. Hey, thanks a lot for the time.

919
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, guys.

920
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: As Blake Fisher Notre Dame Tackle joining us entering year

921
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: three at internal media Day a few weeks back. Now,

922
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: let's get into this around the league stuff from the NFL.

923
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: And how were last night's numbers of the soccer match

924
00:43:59,160 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: on TV.

925
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 2: It's all coming up here on Texans All Access.

926
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: Okay, in our final segment here tonight on Texans Radio,

927
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: I promised you the TV ratings for the USA match

928
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: with Belgium. As Johnny said, Hey, Belgium will do that

929
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: to you. I was cracking up. I didn't know Belgium

930
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: could do that to you. I thought Belgium was just

931
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: a little country. You know, it's right near my beloved

932
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: Netherlands half of its kind of Dutch, half of its

933
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: kind of French. How dare they do that to our

934
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: country in Seattle for one ouch? Anyway, thirty million viewers

935
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: last night. That's a new record for US soccer. And

936
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: it peaked at something like thirty six thirty seven between

937
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: nine and nine fifteen Eastern. But thirty million is the

938
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: number you need to know, because that is the number,

939
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: and it's a very impressive number. That's an NFL type number.

940
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: But you're wondering, Mark, how does that compare with the

941
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: National Football League? And I'm going to tell you National

942
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: Football League. Now, look around the globe. The World Cup

943
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: smashes the NFL.

944
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 4: All right.

945
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: The world is a big place. I explained this to

946
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: you a couple of weeks ago. I mean, I think

947
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: you need me to explain how big the world is.

948
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: But India, China, all of Africa, all of Europe, these

949
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: places watched soccer in big, huge numbers. That's why World

950
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: Cup games get over one hundred and fifty million viewers

951
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: per game. Basically that's a Super Bowl rating in the

952
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: United States. But in the United States, I mean, this

953
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: is king by a long way the NFL, baby, because

954
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: in the wild card round last year, for instance, thirty

955
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: two million viewers per game.

956
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: Across the networks, that's the average.

957
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: So that's two million higher than what Team USA did

958
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: last night in soccer. And everybody in their grandmother was

959
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: watching last night, it felt that way. Watched US get

960
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: embarrassed like that. Ouch anyway, Divisional round last year thirty

961
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: nine million viewers, second most watched Divisional round since nineteen

962
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: eighty eight since they began tracking this stuff this way,

963
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: so that was huge. That would be nine million more

964
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: than what watched night in the average rating for the

965
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: Divisional round. You know, the Texans game at New England

966
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: last year was the most watched ESPN game ever period.

967
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: End of sentence. That's it right there, Texans at New England. Gosh,

968
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I hate New England. If you missed an earlier episode

969
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: of Texans All Access, I declared New England the whole

970
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: Patriots thing up there. Foxborough at New England is the

971
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: all time Texans villain. Used to be Brady and Company

972
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: doing damage to the Texans in the divisional round twice.

973
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: That's happened in twelve and sixteen, and then it happened

974
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: again this year. So I've declared that public enemy number

975
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: one at New England. We've won once there in twenty

976
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: twenty four regular season. It was nice, no question about

977
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: that is beautiful, and in the preseason once prior to

978
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but no playoff wins up there, and

979
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back anytime soon because I'd

980
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: rather play at home. That should be the goal of

981
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: this in every season. Play as many playoff games as

982
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: possible in your building, now this building. In the wildcard round,

983
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: the Texans are six and two. That's strong all time

984
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: wild card weekend seven and two because they finally won

985
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: a playoff game on the road wild card weekend, beating

986
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh last year. So Texan's really good on wildcard weekend.

987
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: It'd be great to skip it and go to the

988
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: next round. Don't get me started, but one thing at

989
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: a time here, let's see how this season goes. Anyway,

990
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: those are some TV numbers for you, And one final

991
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: note on the World Cup coverage. I still feel like

992
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: the guys are doing a good job describing the soccer

993
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: action to the American audience. However, more description necessary at times. Right,

994
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: you got to go a little soccer for dummies I'm

995
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: saying this for me, and maybe you don't need it.

996
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you're a die hard soccer fan and you love

997
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: it and you understand everything. But I love the tweets

998
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: from NFL guys that I respect that are saying, hey,

999
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: help me out here, why is this this way? And

1000
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: then you get the soccer nerds chiming in. They're not

1001
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: all nerds, they're just knowledgeable soccer. I call them soccer

1002
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: nerds because I guess I'm insecure about my lack of soccer.

1003
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: Knowledge to a degree.

1004
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: But you know what, we've got football knowledge here on

1005
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: this show. And we'll be back tomorrow. Another player will

1006
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: join us from Texans internal media Day, and we'll get

1007
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: you ready for camp, which will begin in three freaking weeks.

1008
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: Let's go have a great night. Area forty five coming

1009
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: up next, Go Texans.