WEBVTT - #265 Packers Unscripted: Peak Performances, Games 9-12 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:21.040 Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.000 I am Mike Spofford sitting alongside my colleague West Hodkowits 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.960 were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.560 Field and West were in another stretch of the offseason. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:33.840 Here where it's time to talk about the next round 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:38.320 of peak performances from the third quarter of the season. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.000 I'm talking about games nine through twelve and again for fans, 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.040 if they like to go on Packers dot com, you 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.120 can check out the articles, some video highlights. Vote for 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.440 your favorite peak performance from this stretch of the season. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:52.920 I'll throw the first one at you right away, and 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.880 it's Davante Adams at Chicago. UM. I know there are 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.480 a lot of moments throughout the year where we realized 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.760 Davante Adams was making those strides to become a Pro 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.440 Bowl receiver, and and just this past weekend, obviously he 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.080 did participate in his first Pro Bowl. This was one 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.600 of those games that definitely jumped out though it did, 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.720 and the reason it jumped out to me, Mike, is 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.200 because we saw him make phenomenal catches throughout this course 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.000 of the season. We saw him step up when Aaron 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:25.840 Rodgers was no longer available. But this game, in particular 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:29.160 to me, really showed you who Davante Adams is as 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.520 a football player, because, as you wrote in the Peak Performances, 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.000 he wasn't having his best game it there were setbacks 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.080 and adversity early on. And since day one, we've always 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.600 talked about how headstrong he is. I thought this is 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:43.120 a perfect example of that to put that behind him 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.759 and make the big plays when it mattered most. Yeah, 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.480 he had a a disappointing drop on a short kind 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.800 of slant pass crossing route over the middle of whatever 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.280 you want to call it. Um. Packers ended up having 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.440 to settle for a field goal on that drive rather 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.640 than continue it with the first down and possibly get 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.480 a touchdown. But then green May's last two offensive possessions, 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.000 his chemistry connection with Brett Hunley really started to shine. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.400 He started a touchdown drive with an eighteen yard catch, 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.120 then finished that drive with a nineteen yard t d 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.880 grab on a back shoulder. Just a really nice chemistry 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.560 type of play between quarterback and receiver there, and then 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.639 the Bears have gotten back within seven points. The Packers 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.440 needed one more drive to put the game away. Third 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.120 and ten, just over two minutes left, Hunley decides to 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.600 go deep down the right sideline to Adams. He brings 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.000 it in for a forty two yard catch. Just a 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.160 huge play, um, And I didn't even realize until I 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.960 saw the replay that he caught the thing one handed. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.240 I mean it was it was a perfectly thrown pass, 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.680 pretty decent coverage by the Chicago Bears. But again, there 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.080 was just down the stretch in this game. There was 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.200 just no stopping atoms, you know. And it's really hard 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.000 to be hyperbolic about this because there were so many 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.000 big catches this season for him. I mean, one of 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.280 our episodes earlier this this month, we even talked about 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.519 how what was his favorite catch and I couldn't even 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.120 come up with one because of the multitude of them. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.519 But that forty two yard er I think is definitely 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.480 in the conversation because the Packers needed it, they needed 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.520 to ice that game and the fact that, I mean 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.160 it is on third and ten, you need to make 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.680 a play and Davonte Adams did just that. Yeah. The 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.000 next peak performance on the list will get to here. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.320 Quarterback Brett Hunley at Pittsburgh, a primetime game at hines 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.960 Field Packers on the road against one of the top 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.280 teams in the a f C, one of the top 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.640 defenses in the a f C, and frankly, nobody saw 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.880 this performance coming from Hunley. He was coming off of 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.160 a shutout loss to Baltimore at home, really one of 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.720 those low points for the Packers during the season. But 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.920 he comes out in Pittsburgh one thirty four point three 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.680 passer rating, three touchdown passes, all of them long, big play, 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:56.160 explosive play, UM type T d S and uh. And really, 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.720 you know, for all of Brett Hunley's ups and downs 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.520 throughout his nine starts, ten games essentially that he played 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.840 in place of Aaron Rodgers, um, this in my mind, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.880 even though it was in a defeat, was his best 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.800 best outing absolutely uh. And it's the one I think 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.080 when you when you bring up the film from this season, 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.760 you're going to be like, this is what Brett Hunley 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.040 can be as a quarterback. He was smart, he was accurate, 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.200 and he made the big plays when they were available 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.400 to him throughout that game. The thing is in you 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.040 and I remember this going into Pittsburgh. Nobody was given 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.880 the Packers a chance in that game. I forget what 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.279 the line was, I know it was double digits, maybe 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:36.880 four under something going in. UM, it was disheartening from 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.120 the standpoint that the Packers weren't able to win this 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.400 one was falling late. But I thought Hunley had a 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.160 perfect performance throughout and put the Packers in a position 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.240 to win that game. Yeah, just to recap some of 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.720 the big highlights there, a thirty nine yard touched on 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.159 pastor Randall Cobb, a fifty four yard touchdown pass on 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.640 a screen pastor running back Jamal Williams will talk a 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.640 little bit more about that. UM with another peak performance. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.120 But then in the secon and have a fifty five 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.960 yard touched on pass to Davante Adams, and then really 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.599 the moment that that defined it for Brett Hunley drives 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.600 the Packers seventy seven yards and twelve plays late in 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.760 the fourth quarter for a tying touchdown that ties the 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.880 game at and that drive included a fourth and sixth 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.520 completion to Adams in the red zone to keep the 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:26.320 drive alive one play before the Packers get the tying score. UM, 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.120 I just I took my cap to Brett Hunley, and 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.760 this when nobody was happy about the loss certainly, but um, 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.560 but a solid performance at a time when when not 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.400 a whole lot was expected of him. Yeah. And I 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.880 think Pittsburgh was the fourth rank defense at the time too, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.360 So I mean it was no slout she was going 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.960 up against either. Yeah. All right with that, We've got 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.760 more peak performances to discuss after the breakback, with more 0:05:45.800 --> 0:06:07.360 on Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.920 Mike Spofford in this chair, West Hodkowits in that one 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.960 in West. Continuing our discussion of the peak performances from 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.359 the third quarter of the season, fans can go on 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.720 Packers dot com and watch the highlights and vote for 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.800 their favorite UM. Three left here and two of them 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.440 by the same player, actually, Jamal Williams, both at Pittsburgh 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.359 and then at home against Tampa Bay. Two big outings 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.680 here for the rookie running back out of b y U. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.400 At Pittsburgh, I mentioned the fifty four yards screen pass 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.480 for a touchdown. He also had sixty six rushing yards 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.800 on twenty one carries, ended up totaling a hundred and 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.120 thirty five yards from scrimmage in all and then against 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.679 excuse me, against Tampa Bay at lambeau Field his first 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.240 career one hundred yard rushing game, a hundred thirteen yards 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:55.800 on twenty one carries with a touchdown. Included a powerful 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.560 run at the goal line getting through a defender or 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.640 two for the score. Two really nice outings here by 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.480 Jamal Williams. I don't know if you have a favorite 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.280 one or the other. But but again, as we talked 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.760 about throughout the season, a rookie running back who was 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.800 given the opportunity to be the bell cow, and he delivered. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.760 In late October, Michael I was working on a story 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:16.600 on Aaron Jones at the time when he sort of 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.280 was breaking out, and during that same time, I talked 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:20.960 to a couple of people that are very close to 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.000 Jamal Williams, and you know, while Williams always kept the 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.160 same headstrong approach while he was waiting in the wings, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.160 you know there were some people around him that were 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:30.960 wondering if he was going to get a shot again, 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.120 because you know, he was the backup to Time Montgomery. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.320 The injury happened and he hurts his own knee. Aaron 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.760 Jones comes out of nowhere. There was a question going 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.320 into November of what Jamal Williams role was going to 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.400 be with the way that Aaron Jones had run away 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:50.440 with things. Jones suffers the injury. That game starting with Pittsburgh, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.280 I think is the one where we found out, you 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.960 know what Packers running backs are gonna be okay, And 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.400 if they don't have Aaron Jones, they have Jamal Williams 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.120 and they do different things well, which I think compliments 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.600 one another. And then that Tampa Bay game, I just 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.040 thought he showed what he is in terms of being 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.640 an every down complete running back that can't have explosive plays. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.360 I think we learned a lot about Jamal Williams with 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.800 the course this season, the way he handled adversity early on, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:17.800 and then the way he really broke out when he 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.960 did get the chance to be the every down guy. Yeah, 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.080 you look at that Tampa Bay game. He had a 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.440 twenty five yard run in the second quarter there, and 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.040 that was actually one of seven carries on the day 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.480 that went for eight plus yards. He was he was 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.760 really chewing up the yardage in some significant chunks. Then 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.160 you look at the game winning drive in overtime, got 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.360 the the hero seat stolen by by Aaron Jones. With 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.280 that twenty yard run for a touchdown. But before that, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.680 he had a nine yard run and a twelve yard 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.280 reception that helped get the Packers in position for Aaron 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.240 Jones touched on drive if it hadn't been forgetting a 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.959 little winded needing to come out for a play. Um, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.160 you know, that's when Jones stepped in and uh and 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.080 took it to the took it to the house for 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.880 the victory. But um, um, the other peak performance to 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.320 talk about though, was also from that Tampa Bay game. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.440 And you flip sides to the defensive side of the ball, 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:11.640 and that's defensive end Dean Lowry, second year guy. Um, 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.960 everybody's going to remember the sixty two yard rumbling, bumbling, stumbling, 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.760 whatever you want to call it for a touchdown there. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.760 But but it wasn't just that he was an impact 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.360 player up front on defense throughout this game. He got 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.680 a sack of his own, a fourteen yard sack when 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.840 there was a little bit of a stunt that that 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:34.439 left him free to get Jamis Winston. Um, this is 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.120 the type of performance that that the Packers were hoping 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.520 for out of Dean Lowry. They may be hope to 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.760 see more of it. But again still a young, developing 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.520 player that I think could be a big component of this, uh, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.680 this new Packers defense under Mike Pett. Yeah, Mike, And 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.760 he was the defensive player of the Week for the 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.760 entire the NFL for this performance. As you said, the 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.439 sixty two yard touchdown is what everybody's gonna remember, his jump, 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:04.319 his lambeau leap, being completely gassed on an empty tank. Yeah, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.680 but the small things in this I thought that really 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.440 mattered most, the combination of him and Kenny Clark contributing 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.079 to that fumble that Jamis Winston had in him being 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.480 able to run it back from the t D. Packers 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.920 invested a lot of that defensive line when they drafted 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.800 both Clark in the first round out of U C. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.600 L A. And they went back and took Lowry out 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:27.040 of Northwestern entirely different defensive lineman. But Lowry, I thought, 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.040 more than anything else this season and in this game, 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.280 proved he's more than a five tech based defensive end. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.199 He can play three tech, he can play inside when 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.720 they need him to in the in the dime defense 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.679 as well, just really made the impact plays that were 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.600 there for him, and certainly I think is you know, 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.920 on equivocally the best game of his career as a Packer. Yeah. Okay, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.880 so we've gone over all five of the peak performances 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.720 from the third quarter of the season. Davante Adams at Chicago, 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.480 Brett Hunley at Pittsburgh, Jamal Williams at Pittsburgh, Williams also 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:00.000 at home against Tampa Bay, and Dean Lowry against Tampa Bay. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.440 You have a favorite of those five, um, And the 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.400 reason I say that is because this is the game 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.960 where we found out, in my opinion, that this is 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:09.640 a guy that can just take control of the game. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.000 For the first two season of his career, he was 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.240 the compliment to Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb, and even 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.200 into the third season, Jordy Nelson was the NFL Comeback 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.360 Player of the Year yards receiving, He had a nice season, 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.200 but he was still the compliment. That was the game 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.080 I thought that was showing him that he can take 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.080 this thing over and become the top perimeter weapon and 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.240 can be counted on when the game's on the line. Yeah, 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.280 and my vote, I like your your choice there. Davante 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.120 Adams certainly, but my vote goes to the Dean Lowry 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.520 performance against Tampa Bay. And I say that because the 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.320 Packers have Mike Daniels, he's now a pro bowler on 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.800 the defensive line. We talked a lot about Kenny Clark, 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.280 the first round pick, and and he continues, I think 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.280 he's going to be a rising star in this league. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.719 Dean Lowry is not a guy who's going to do 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.560 what he did against Tampa Bay when defensive player of 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.440 the week. You know, he's not going to do that 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.760 five or six or eight times in a year. He's 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.000 not necessarily that type of player. But it's performances like 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:08.520 this one that complement the stars up front that helped 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.959 the Packers win games. And I think Dean Lowry can 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:15.040 have more performances like this and can help the Packers win. Yeah, 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.679 and they're young, man. I mean, the Packers have a 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.959 lot of young studs on that defense, and Lowry is 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.400 another one that fits into that equation. Yeah. Alright, with that, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.400 we'll toss to a break back with more on Packers 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:45.200 Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.480 Spofford here, Wes Hodkuh it's over there, and West shifting 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.520 gears from the peak performances now back to our discussion 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:55.120 from last show about the changes on the coaching staff 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.280 and as this, as this Green Bay Packers staff takes shape, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.040 one bit of news to pass the law. Darren Perry, 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.360 longtime Safety's coach since two thousand nine, when Dom Capers 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.240 came in as defensive coordinator, his future was a little 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.520 bit up in the air. The Packers have now announced 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.360 that he's moving on and pursuing other opportunities, so Darren 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.400 Perry will not be back. But when I look at 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.360 how this staff is coming together here from Mike McCarthy, 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.240 one thing that stands out that you really can't ignore 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:26.800 is all of the different connections between a lot of 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.520 these coaches throughout their careers where they've worked with one 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.960 another in some different places but never necessarily altogether where 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.400 they are right now. And I won't be able to 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.040 hit on all of them, but for example, excuse me. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.680 Jim Hostler, the new pass game coordinator on offense. He 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.120 worked with Joe Philbin for a couple of years in 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:52.520 Indianapolis over the seventeen seasons, but he also worked with 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:57.120 Mike McCarthy with the New Orleans Saints previously in UH 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.360 in his career, then you have Frank Signetti, the new 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.359 quarterbacks coach. He and Jim Hostler worked together at Indiana 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.640 University of Pennsylvania for several years in the nineteen nineties. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.080 Signetti also worked in a couple of at least with 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.320 New Orleans I know for sure with Mike McCarthy when 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.080 he was offensive coordinator there. Again, it's like it almost 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.720 becomes this tangled web of how all these all these 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.480 guys are connected in their past. But it's really interesting 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.960 now when you look at that, you look at that timeline, 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.240 and then now you see that they're all together coaching 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.920 together on the Packers offense. Yeah, it's like that old 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.680 you know, six degrees of Kevin Bacon. It's like six 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.400 degrees of Mike McCarthy exactly the way that all this 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.400 comes together. And I actually asked Hustler that, obviously you 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.200 wrote a nice story on him on Packers dot Com, 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.160 but afterwards and sort of the group had died down 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.920 and you had left. I went back because I want 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.800 to ask him about In two thousand and eight, he 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.280 worked with Mike Patton in Baltimore. Now, mind you, he 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.400 was a receiver's coach. Patton was an outside linebackers coach. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.840 But it just shows you the ties together and the 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.000 fact that you know Hustler and Signetti and McCarthy, they 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.320 all had these ties to San Francisco, but then weren't 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.520 all at the same time, you know, New Orleans. But 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.960 it does go back to kind of those Pittsburgh roots 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.080 at the end of the day. And in the point 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.400 I guess I'm trying to make here is that this 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.160 is a new coaching staff in a lot of ways, 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.800 especially actually on the offensive side of the ball, even 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:19.080 though they have a new defensive coordinator. But I think 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.880 the ties that buying everyone ultimately are going to be 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:28.600 what helps really cultivate that rapport relationship comfort level between 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.440 those coaches, because even if you don't have everybody that 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.880 worked together in the same place at the same time, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.120 they all know what it's like to work with one 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.640 another and kind of have that rapport, which I think 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.160 is going to go a long way and helping this 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.520 coaching staff come together before the players come back in April. Yeah, 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.360 I had an interesting conversation with Hostler the day that 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.760 the day that he met the media. When you look 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.400 at you look at his coaching history, and I asked 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.520 him a little bit about you know, his previous time 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.960 with McCarthy, he was a position coach for the New 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.560 Orleans Saints on offense, I believe it was receivers coach 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.840 when Carthy was offensive coordinator there. And then the year 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.000 that McCarthy was offensive coordinator in San Francisco in two 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:11.200 thousand five, Jim Hostler was his quarterbacks coach. So when 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.640 McCarthy left, he went to offensive coordinator right, and then 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.760 he and then he took McCarthy's job as as offensive coordinator. 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.280 And then as I mentioned, you have Hustler having worked 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.640 the last two years with the Indianapolis Colts on the 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.600 offensive staff, um with Joe Philbin. Now all of those 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.440 guys are together along with James Campon if you look 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.680 at it from the from sort of the hierarchy of 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:35.360 Mike McCarthy, Joe Philbin offensive coordinator, Jim Hostler passing game coordinator, 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.760 and James camp And run game coordinator as well as 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.840 offensive line coach. So now all these guys and obviously 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.600 Philbin and Camping and McCarthy you know, worked together for 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.200 a number of years here in Green Bay and UH 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.280 and Camping and Philbin worked together. If I'm not mistaken. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:54.040 In Green Bay before McCarthy, Camping was right, he was, 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.760 he was assistant on the offensive line. So there's a 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.960 lot of connections here. And now all of these guys 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.440 are the four guys at the top of the food chain, 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.760 so to speak, in terms of in terms of running 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.600 this Packers offense. And Hustler made an interesting point to 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.600 me because I asked him about that past with McCarthy 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.440 and he said, when he coached for Mike McCarthy in 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.760 the past, he was just learning how to be a coach, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.119 learning how to coach a position. You know, now you 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.280 know you you all of a sudden, all these years later, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.000 you get reunited and all these coaches are in different 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.520 places in their career. Now. It's about the big picture. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.600 It's about the concepts. It's about how all the thoughts 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.400 and ideas come together in a game plan to try 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.760 to go win football games. And you have the level 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.959 of experience when you look at these four coaches that 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.679 are that are going to be essentially the brain trust, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.919 so to speak, of the Packers offense, the amount of 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.359 experience is astounding. Yeah, And I think that's when the 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.359 Packers were rewriting this playbook as Mike McCarthy said they 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.600 were doing this offseason. I think that's one of the 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.520 things that's gonna be really beneficial because you're gonna have 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.199 McCarthy's thoughts, you're gonna have their turning coaches thoughts, but 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.479 now actually you're gonna get Joe Philbints take on it 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.360 with him being reimmersed in this offfense. These new coaches 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.040 coming in in their perspective. And keep in mind too, 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.080 you have David Rye, the new receiver's coach, who was 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.920 a quarterback at Iowa when Joe Philbin was their offensive 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.440 line coach. Patrick Graham the new inside linebackers coach and 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.280 run game coordinator on defense, well, he worked with Frank 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.359 Signeti in New York. So there's just all this crossover 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.520 that I think ultimately, as as I said earlier, I 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.360 think it's going to go a long way in how 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.719 the Packers create that vision for two thousand eighteen and 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.120 how quickly they're going to be able to do that. Yeah, 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.480 when you look at guys like Philbin and Hustler, they've 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.840 coached multiple positions throughout their careers on offense, they have 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.600 a wealth of experience that at you know, all the 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.760 different you know, types of components that come together on 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:41.520 an offense. But with that, we've got to go to 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.080 a break back with more on Packers Unscripted. Right after this, 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.360 Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford next to Wes 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.879 Hodkowitz and West. Quickly before we go, I wanted to 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:12.040 touch on another aspect on the defensive side of the ball. 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:16.199 We talked last week about the influence and importance of 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.520 Joe Philbin and his family and his decision making process 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:24.159 as he decided to come back to Green Bay. Jerry 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:28.199 Montgomery is the Packers new defensive line coach, moving up 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:32.840 from defensive front assistant to take over Mike Turgeva's job. Um, 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.159 he had sort of an interesting family dynamic that he 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.040 was dealing with as well in his decision making process, 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.480 and you talk to him a little bit about it, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.679 So tell us what what he said. Yeah, What's interesting 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.480 about this, Mike, is that no matter what walk of 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.840 life you're in, you've been in this position. I've been 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.840 in this position, doesn't matter if you're a defensive line 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.480 coach or a sports writer. Um, you come to those 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.159 crossroads at times where there's a great opportunity and you 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.120 have to make a decision at what's best for your 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.879 family from a financial standpoint, everything jumped off the charts 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.280 with this opportunity with the Texas A and m Aggies. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.280 For Jerry Montgomery. Talking to a couple of people after 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.920 that had been announced, they didn't blame him at all 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.399 for for going down there and knowing his roots in 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.720 college football. But ultimately, as he said, he took a 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.240 plane ride back to Green Bay, had checked back in 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.480 with Mike McCarthy and after thinking about it long and hard, 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.719 made the decision that Green Bay is where he and 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:29.320 his family needed to be. I know, they've developed really 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:33.000 strong ties of their community. Uh, in terms of you know, 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.480 he's a father I believe of four um all athletic 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:41.240 kids that were really wanted to be in Green Bay. UM. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:45.600 So for him to make that decision, I know, it's 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.119 it can be turbulent, he said. It was a hectic month, 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.800 but when you go to the thing I always say 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:52.280 is when you lay down at night, when you go 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.640 to bed, you have to be confident with the decisions 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.280