1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting alongside my colleague West Hodkowits 3 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau 4 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Field and West were in another stretch of the offseason. 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Here where it's time to talk about the next round 6 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: of peak performances from the third quarter of the season. 7 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about games nine through twelve and again for fans, 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: if they like to go on Packers dot com, you 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: can check out the articles, some video highlights. Vote for 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: your favorite peak performance from this stretch of the season. 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: I'll throw the first one at you right away, and 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: it's Davante Adams at Chicago. UM. I know there are 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: a lot of moments throughout the year where we realized 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: Davante Adams was making those strides to become a Pro 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Bowl receiver, and and just this past weekend, obviously he 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: did participate in his first Pro Bowl. This was one 17 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: of those games that definitely jumped out though it did, 18 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: and the reason it jumped out to me, Mike, is 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: because we saw him make phenomenal catches throughout this course 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: of the season. We saw him step up when Aaron 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers was no longer available. But this game, in particular 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: to me, really showed you who Davante Adams is as 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: a football player, because, as you wrote in the Peak Performances, 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't having his best game it there were setbacks 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: and adversity early on. And since day one, we've always 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: talked about how headstrong he is. I thought this is 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: a perfect example of that to put that behind him 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: and make the big plays when it mattered most. Yeah, 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: he had a a disappointing drop on a short kind 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: of slant pass crossing route over the middle of whatever 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: you want to call it. Um. Packers ended up having 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: to settle for a field goal on that drive rather 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: than continue it with the first down and possibly get 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: a touchdown. But then green May's last two offensive possessions, 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: his chemistry connection with Brett Hunley really started to shine. 36 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: He started a touchdown drive with an eighteen yard catch, 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: then finished that drive with a nineteen yard t d 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: grab on a back shoulder. Just a really nice chemistry 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: type of play between quarterback and receiver there, and then 40 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: the Bears have gotten back within seven points. The Packers 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: needed one more drive to put the game away. Third 42 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: and ten, just over two minutes left, Hunley decides to 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: go deep down the right sideline to Adams. He brings 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: it in for a forty two yard catch. Just a 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: huge play, um, And I didn't even realize until I 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: saw the replay that he caught the thing one handed. 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was a perfectly thrown pass, 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: pretty decent coverage by the Chicago Bears. But again, there 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: was just down the stretch in this game. There was 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: just no stopping atoms, you know. And it's really hard 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: to be hyperbolic about this because there were so many 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: big catches this season for him. I mean, one of 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: our episodes earlier this this month, we even talked about 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: how what was his favorite catch and I couldn't even 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: come up with one because of the multitude of them. 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: But that forty two yard er I think is definitely 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: in the conversation because the Packers needed it, they needed 58 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: to ice that game and the fact that, I mean 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: it is on third and ten, you need to make 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: a play and Davonte Adams did just that. Yeah. The 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: next peak performance on the list will get to here. 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Quarterback Brett Hunley at Pittsburgh, a primetime game at hines 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: Field Packers on the road against one of the top 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: teams in the a f C, one of the top 65 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: defenses in the a f C, and frankly, nobody saw 66 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: this performance coming from Hunley. He was coming off of 67 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: a shutout loss to Baltimore at home, really one of 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: those low points for the Packers during the season. But 69 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: he comes out in Pittsburgh one thirty four point three 70 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: passer rating, three touchdown passes, all of them long, big play, 71 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: explosive play, UM type T d S and uh. And really, 72 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, for all of Brett Hunley's ups and downs 73 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: throughout his nine starts, ten games essentially that he played 74 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: in place of Aaron Rodgers, um, this in my mind, 75 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: even though it was in a defeat, was his best 76 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: best outing absolutely uh. And it's the one I think 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: when you when you bring up the film from this season, 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: you're going to be like, this is what Brett Hunley 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: can be as a quarterback. He was smart, he was accurate, 80 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: and he made the big plays when they were available 81 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: to him throughout that game. The thing is in you 82 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: and I remember this going into Pittsburgh. Nobody was given 83 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the Packers a chance in that game. I forget what 84 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: the line was, I know it was double digits, maybe 85 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: four under something going in. UM, it was disheartening from 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: the standpoint that the Packers weren't able to win this 87 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: one was falling late. But I thought Hunley had a 88 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: perfect performance throughout and put the Packers in a position 89 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: to win that game. Yeah, just to recap some of 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: the big highlights there, a thirty nine yard touched on 91 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: pastor Randall Cobb, a fifty four yard touchdown pass on 92 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: a screen pastor running back Jamal Williams will talk a 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: little bit more about that. UM with another peak performance. 94 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: But then in the secon and have a fifty five 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: yard touched on pass to Davante Adams, and then really 96 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: the moment that that defined it for Brett Hunley drives 97 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: the Packers seventy seven yards and twelve plays late in 98 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter for a tying touchdown that ties the 99 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: game at and that drive included a fourth and sixth 100 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: completion to Adams in the red zone to keep the 101 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: drive alive one play before the Packers get the tying score. UM, 102 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: I just I took my cap to Brett Hunley, and 103 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: this when nobody was happy about the loss certainly, but um, 104 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: but a solid performance at a time when when not 105 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: a whole lot was expected of him. Yeah. And I 106 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh was the fourth rank defense at the time too, 107 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: So I mean it was no slout she was going 108 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: up against either. Yeah. All right with that, We've got 109 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: more peak performances to discuss after the breakback, with more 110 00:05:45,800 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: on Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. 111 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford in this chair, West Hodkowits in that one 112 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: in West. Continuing our discussion of the peak performances from 113 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: the third quarter of the season, fans can go on 114 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: Packers dot com and watch the highlights and vote for 115 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: their favorite UM. Three left here and two of them 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: by the same player, actually, Jamal Williams, both at Pittsburgh 117 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: and then at home against Tampa Bay. Two big outings 118 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: here for the rookie running back out of b y U. 119 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: At Pittsburgh, I mentioned the fifty four yards screen pass 120 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. He also had sixty six rushing yards 121 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: on twenty one carries, ended up totaling a hundred and 122 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: thirty five yards from scrimmage in all and then against 123 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: excuse me, against Tampa Bay at lambeau Field his first 124 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: career one hundred yard rushing game, a hundred thirteen yards 125 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: on twenty one carries with a touchdown. Included a powerful 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: run at the goal line getting through a defender or 127 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: two for the score. Two really nice outings here by 128 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams. I don't know if you have a favorite 129 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: one or the other. But but again, as we talked 130 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: about throughout the season, a rookie running back who was 131 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: given the opportunity to be the bell cow, and he delivered. 132 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: In late October, Michael I was working on a story 133 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: on Aaron Jones at the time when he sort of 134 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: was breaking out, and during that same time, I talked 135 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: to a couple of people that are very close to 136 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, and you know, while Williams always kept the 137 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: same headstrong approach while he was waiting in the wings, 138 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: you know there were some people around him that were 139 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: wondering if he was going to get a shot again, 140 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: because you know, he was the backup to Time Montgomery. 141 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: The injury happened and he hurts his own knee. Aaron 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Jones comes out of nowhere. There was a question going 143 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: into November of what Jamal Williams role was going to 144 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: be with the way that Aaron Jones had run away 145 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: with things. Jones suffers the injury. That game starting with Pittsburgh, 146 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: I think is the one where we found out, you 147 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: know what Packers running backs are gonna be okay, And 148 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: if they don't have Aaron Jones, they have Jamal Williams 149 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: and they do different things well, which I think compliments 150 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: one another. And then that Tampa Bay game, I just 151 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: thought he showed what he is in terms of being 152 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: an every down complete running back that can't have explosive plays. 153 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: I think we learned a lot about Jamal Williams with 154 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: the course this season, the way he handled adversity early on, 155 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: and then the way he really broke out when he 156 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: did get the chance to be the every down guy. Yeah, 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: you look at that Tampa Bay game. He had a 158 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: twenty five yard run in the second quarter there, and 159 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: that was actually one of seven carries on the day 160 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: that went for eight plus yards. He was he was 161 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: really chewing up the yardage in some significant chunks. Then 162 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: you look at the game winning drive in overtime, got 163 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: the the hero seat stolen by by Aaron Jones. With 164 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: that twenty yard run for a touchdown. But before that, 165 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: he had a nine yard run and a twelve yard 166 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: reception that helped get the Packers in position for Aaron 167 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Jones touched on drive if it hadn't been forgetting a 168 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: little winded needing to come out for a play. Um, 169 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's when Jones stepped in and uh and 170 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: took it to the took it to the house for 171 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: the victory. But um, um, the other peak performance to 172 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: talk about though, was also from that Tampa Bay game. 173 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: And you flip sides to the defensive side of the ball, 174 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: and that's defensive end Dean Lowry, second year guy. Um, 175 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: everybody's going to remember the sixty two yard rumbling, bumbling, stumbling, 176 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it for a touchdown there. 177 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: But but it wasn't just that he was an impact 178 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: player up front on defense throughout this game. He got 179 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: a sack of his own, a fourteen yard sack when 180 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a stunt that that 181 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: left him free to get Jamis Winston. Um, this is 182 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: the type of performance that that the Packers were hoping 183 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: for out of Dean Lowry. They may be hope to 184 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: see more of it. But again still a young, developing 185 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: player that I think could be a big component of this, uh, 186 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: this new Packers defense under Mike Pett. Yeah, Mike, And 187 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: he was the defensive player of the Week for the 188 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: entire the NFL for this performance. As you said, the 189 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: sixty two yard touchdown is what everybody's gonna remember, his jump, 190 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: his lambeau leap, being completely gassed on an empty tank. Yeah, 191 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: but the small things in this I thought that really 192 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: mattered most, the combination of him and Kenny Clark contributing 193 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: to that fumble that Jamis Winston had in him being 194 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: able to run it back from the t D. Packers 195 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: invested a lot of that defensive line when they drafted 196 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: both Clark in the first round out of U C. 197 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: L A. And they went back and took Lowry out 198 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: of Northwestern entirely different defensive lineman. But Lowry, I thought, 199 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: more than anything else this season and in this game, 200 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: proved he's more than a five tech based defensive end. 201 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: He can play three tech, he can play inside when 202 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: they need him to in the in the dime defense 203 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: as well, just really made the impact plays that were 204 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: there for him, and certainly I think is you know, 205 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: on equivocally the best game of his career as a Packer. Yeah. Okay, 206 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: so we've gone over all five of the peak performances 207 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: from the third quarter of the season. Davante Adams at Chicago, 208 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Brett Hunley at Pittsburgh, Jamal Williams at Pittsburgh, Williams also 209 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: at home against Tampa Bay, and Dean Lowry against Tampa Bay. 210 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: You have a favorite of those five, um, And the 211 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: reason I say that is because this is the game 212 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: where we found out, in my opinion, that this is 213 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: a guy that can just take control of the game. 214 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: For the first two season of his career, he was 215 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: the compliment to Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb, and even 216 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: into the third season, Jordy Nelson was the NFL Comeback 217 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Player of the Year yards receiving, He had a nice season, 218 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: but he was still the compliment. That was the game 219 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: I thought that was showing him that he can take 220 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: this thing over and become the top perimeter weapon and 221 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: can be counted on when the game's on the line. Yeah, 222 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: and my vote, I like your your choice there. Davante 223 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: Adams certainly, but my vote goes to the Dean Lowry 224 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: performance against Tampa Bay. And I say that because the 225 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: Packers have Mike Daniels, he's now a pro bowler on 226 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: the defensive line. We talked a lot about Kenny Clark, 227 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: the first round pick, and and he continues, I think 228 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: he's going to be a rising star in this league. 229 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: Dean Lowry is not a guy who's going to do 230 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: what he did against Tampa Bay when defensive player of 231 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: the week. You know, he's not going to do that 232 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: five or six or eight times in a year. He's 233 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: not necessarily that type of player. But it's performances like 234 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: this one that complement the stars up front that helped 235 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: the Packers win games. And I think Dean Lowry can 236 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: have more performances like this and can help the Packers win. Yeah, 237 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: and they're young, man. I mean, the Packers have a 238 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: lot of young studs on that defense, and Lowry is 239 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: another one that fits into that equation. Yeah. Alright, with that, 240 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: we'll toss to a break back with more on Packers 241 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike 242 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Spofford here, Wes Hodkuh it's over there, and West shifting 243 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: gears from the peak performances now back to our discussion 244 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: from last show about the changes on the coaching staff 245 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: and as this, as this Green Bay Packers staff takes shape, 246 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: one bit of news to pass the law. Darren Perry, 247 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: longtime Safety's coach since two thousand nine, when Dom Capers 248 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: came in as defensive coordinator, his future was a little 249 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: bit up in the air. The Packers have now announced 250 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: that he's moving on and pursuing other opportunities, so Darren 251 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: Perry will not be back. But when I look at 252 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: how this staff is coming together here from Mike McCarthy, 253 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: one thing that stands out that you really can't ignore 254 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: is all of the different connections between a lot of 255 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: these coaches throughout their careers where they've worked with one 256 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: another in some different places but never necessarily altogether where 257 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: they are right now. And I won't be able to 258 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: hit on all of them, but for example, excuse me. 259 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: Jim Hostler, the new pass game coordinator on offense. He 260 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: worked with Joe Philbin for a couple of years in 261 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: Indianapolis over the seventeen seasons, but he also worked with 262 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy with the New Orleans Saints previously in UH 263 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: in his career, then you have Frank Signetti, the new 264 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,359 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. He and Jim Hostler worked together at Indiana 265 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: University of Pennsylvania for several years in the nineteen nineties. 266 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: Signetti also worked in a couple of at least with 267 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: New Orleans I know for sure with Mike McCarthy when 268 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: he was offensive coordinator there. Again, it's like it almost 269 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: becomes this tangled web of how all these all these 270 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: guys are connected in their past. But it's really interesting 271 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: now when you look at that, you look at that timeline, 272 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: and then now you see that they're all together coaching 273 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: together on the Packers offense. Yeah, it's like that old 274 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, six degrees of Kevin Bacon. It's like six 275 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: degrees of Mike McCarthy exactly the way that all this 276 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: comes together. And I actually asked Hustler that, obviously you 277 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: wrote a nice story on him on Packers dot Com, 278 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: but afterwards and sort of the group had died down 279 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: and you had left. I went back because I want 280 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: to ask him about In two thousand and eight, he 281 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: worked with Mike Patton in Baltimore. Now, mind you, he 282 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: was a receiver's coach. Patton was an outside linebackers coach. 283 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: But it just shows you the ties together and the 284 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: fact that you know Hustler and Signetti and McCarthy, they 285 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: all had these ties to San Francisco, but then weren't 286 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: all at the same time, you know, New Orleans. But 287 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: it does go back to kind of those Pittsburgh roots 288 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. And in the point 289 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: I guess I'm trying to make here is that this 290 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: is a new coaching staff in a lot of ways, 291 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: especially actually on the offensive side of the ball, even 292 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: though they have a new defensive coordinator. But I think 293 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: the ties that buying everyone ultimately are going to be 294 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: what helps really cultivate that rapport relationship comfort level between 295 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: those coaches, because even if you don't have everybody that 296 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: worked together in the same place at the same time, 297 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: they all know what it's like to work with one 298 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: another and kind of have that rapport, which I think 299 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: is going to go a long way and helping this 300 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: coaching staff come together before the players come back in April. Yeah, 301 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: I had an interesting conversation with Hostler the day that 302 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: the day that he met the media. When you look 303 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: at you look at his coaching history, and I asked 304 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: him a little bit about you know, his previous time 305 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: with McCarthy, he was a position coach for the New 306 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints on offense, I believe it was receivers coach 307 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: when Carthy was offensive coordinator there. And then the year 308 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: that McCarthy was offensive coordinator in San Francisco in two 309 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: thousand five, Jim Hostler was his quarterbacks coach. So when 310 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: McCarthy left, he went to offensive coordinator right, and then 311 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: he and then he took McCarthy's job as as offensive coordinator. 312 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: And then as I mentioned, you have Hustler having worked 313 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: the last two years with the Indianapolis Colts on the 314 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: offensive staff, um with Joe Philbin. Now all of those 315 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: guys are together along with James Campon if you look 316 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: at it from the from sort of the hierarchy of 317 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Joe Philbin offensive coordinator, Jim Hostler passing game coordinator, 318 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: and James camp And run game coordinator as well as 319 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: offensive line coach. So now all these guys and obviously 320 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: Philbin and Camping and McCarthy you know, worked together for 321 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: a number of years here in Green Bay and UH 322 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: and Camping and Philbin worked together. If I'm not mistaken. 323 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: In Green Bay before McCarthy, Camping was right, he was, 324 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: he was assistant on the offensive line. So there's a 325 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: lot of connections here. And now all of these guys 326 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: are the four guys at the top of the food chain, 327 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: so to speak, in terms of in terms of running 328 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: this Packers offense. And Hustler made an interesting point to 329 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: me because I asked him about that past with McCarthy 330 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: and he said, when he coached for Mike McCarthy in 331 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: the past, he was just learning how to be a coach, 332 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: learning how to coach a position. You know, now you 333 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: know you you all of a sudden, all these years later, 334 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: you get reunited and all these coaches are in different 335 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: places in their career. Now. It's about the big picture. 336 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: It's about the concepts. It's about how all the thoughts 337 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: and ideas come together in a game plan to try 338 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: to go win football games. And you have the level 339 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 1: of experience when you look at these four coaches that 340 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: are that are going to be essentially the brain trust, 341 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: so to speak, of the Packers offense, the amount of 342 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: experience is astounding. Yeah, And I think that's when the 343 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: Packers were rewriting this playbook as Mike McCarthy said they 344 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: were doing this offseason. I think that's one of the 345 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: things that's gonna be really beneficial because you're gonna have 346 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: McCarthy's thoughts, you're gonna have their turning coaches thoughts, but 347 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: now actually you're gonna get Joe Philbints take on it 348 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: with him being reimmersed in this offfense. These new coaches 349 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: coming in in their perspective. And keep in mind too, 350 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: you have David Rye, the new receiver's coach, who was 351 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback at Iowa when Joe Philbin was their offensive 352 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: line coach. Patrick Graham the new inside linebackers coach and 353 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: run game coordinator on defense, well, he worked with Frank 354 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: Signeti in New York. So there's just all this crossover 355 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: that I think ultimately, as as I said earlier, I 356 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: think it's going to go a long way in how 357 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: the Packers create that vision for two thousand eighteen and 358 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: how quickly they're going to be able to do that. Yeah, 359 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: when you look at guys like Philbin and Hustler, they've 360 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: coached multiple positions throughout their careers on offense, they have 361 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: a wealth of experience that at you know, all the 362 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: different you know, types of components that come together on 363 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: an offense. But with that, we've got to go to 364 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: a break back with more on Packers Unscripted. Right after this, 365 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford next to Wes 366 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: Hodkowitz and West. Quickly before we go, I wanted to 367 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: touch on another aspect on the defensive side of the ball. 368 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: We talked last week about the influence and importance of 369 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Joe Philbin and his family and his decision making process 370 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: as he decided to come back to Green Bay. Jerry 371 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: Montgomery is the Packers new defensive line coach, moving up 372 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: from defensive front assistant to take over Mike Turgeva's job. Um, 373 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: he had sort of an interesting family dynamic that he 374 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: was dealing with as well in his decision making process, 375 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: and you talk to him a little bit about it, 376 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: So tell us what what he said. Yeah, What's interesting 377 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: about this, Mike, is that no matter what walk of 378 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: life you're in, you've been in this position. I've been 379 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: in this position, doesn't matter if you're a defensive line 380 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: coach or a sports writer. Um, you come to those 381 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: crossroads at times where there's a great opportunity and you 382 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: have to make a decision at what's best for your 383 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: family from a financial standpoint, everything jumped off the charts 384 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: with this opportunity with the Texas A and m Aggies. 385 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: For Jerry Montgomery. Talking to a couple of people after 386 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: that had been announced, they didn't blame him at all 387 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: for for going down there and knowing his roots in 388 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: college football. But ultimately, as he said, he took a 389 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: plane ride back to Green Bay, had checked back in 390 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy and after thinking about it long and hard, 391 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: made the decision that Green Bay is where he and 392 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: his family needed to be. I know, they've developed really 393 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: strong ties of their community. Uh, in terms of you know, 394 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: he's a father I believe of four um all athletic 395 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: kids that were really wanted to be in Green Bay. UM. 396 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: So for him to make that decision, I know, it's 397 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: it can be turbulent, he said. It was a hectic month, 398 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: but when you go to the thing I always say 399 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: is when you lay down at night, when you go 400 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: to bed, you have to be confident with the decisions 401 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: you made that day, and you have to be excited 402 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: about what you're seeing tomorrow. And I think this with 403 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: the development the bond that he had already made in 404 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: that defensive line room over the last three seasons, I 405 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: think this was a no brainer for him once you 406 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: put all those chips on the table. Yeah, And that's 407 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: what I was going to say, is by all accounts, 408 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, he's really connected with those defensive linemen that 409 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: he's worked with for the last few years. Now. We 410 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: talked about Mike Daniels and Kenny Clark and Dean Lowry 411 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: and guys like that, and I think he senses, you know, 412 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: not only not only was it his family that drew 413 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: him back to Green Bay, but as you say, when 414 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: you kind of put it all together and then and 415 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: then he looks at the relationship that he has with 416 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: those players that he's been coaching, and now you know, 417 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: he gets a bit of a promotion out of it, 418 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: going from front assistant to actual defensive line coach. A 419 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: lot of things, a lot of things made sense and 420 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: made it very attractive, even if it was a difficult decision. 421 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: It was almost one of those maybe where he felt 422 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: like he couldn't go wrong. Yeah, and think about that 423 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: Mike and these young guys. That's the only coach they've 424 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: known other than Mike Turkovacs, So I think it makes sense. Yeah, 425 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: for sure, But we've got to call it a wrap 426 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscripted, so be sure to 427 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: follow all of our coverage of the team on Packers 428 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: dot com on Twitter, He's at West Had, I'm at 429 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks for 430 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time. H M.