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Speaker 1: What's up guys? Special yesterday Philadelphia Eagle, Minnesota Viking. Great

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Speaker 1: friend of mine and mister two seventy five, if I'm

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Speaker 1: not mistaken, Pro Football Hall of Famer Chris Carter. What's

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Speaker 1: going on?

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Speaker 2: Brother?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Good man? How you guys going doing?

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Speaker 2: Good man? I got my brother j Jo here with me.

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Speaker 2: Just going back to Philly.

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Speaker 1: Man, you being drafted there, Tell me what that was like,

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Speaker 1: the experiencing things in Philly.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing about you know, the league is you

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Speaker 4: can't control where you're gonna go. And you know, grew

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Speaker 4: up in Ohio, went to Ohio State, and it was

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Speaker 4: definitely an eye opener for me being in a big

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Speaker 4: sit just to hustle and bustle and just all the

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Speaker 4: different options. And you know, as a young person, if

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Speaker 4: you want to find it, it's out there. And you know,

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia it was just a little too much for me.

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Speaker 4: Great football team, Buddy Ryan, team dominated by the defense,

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Speaker 4: looking for some offensive playmakers.

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Speaker 3: But Randall Cunningham going into his.

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Speaker 4: Second year, so very very exciting times and a lot

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Speaker 4: of great guys in the locker room who would ultimately,

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Speaker 4: you know, take me under their wing and taught me

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Speaker 4: a lot of different things, but truly a great sports town.

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Speaker 4: But you have to have different levels of maturity when

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Speaker 4: you go from the Midwest or Ohio and you're going

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Speaker 4: into a city, and if you try to engage in

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Speaker 4: that street life and things like that, it's easy to

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Speaker 4: get called up.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure you've seen that.

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Speaker 4: But that was you know, that's my overall impression of

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Speaker 4: being drafted by Philadelphia and spending three years there.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of Buddy Ryan, talk about that, talk about

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Speaker 1: that experience. He seemed like, you know, I never got

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Speaker 1: a chance to meet him. He seemed like a very

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Speaker 1: fiery coach man, So talk about him a little bit

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Speaker 3: Very fiery coach.

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Speaker 4: I think that his overall defense of philosophy and blitzing

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Speaker 4: the quarterback, I think that it's not it's not great

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Speaker 4: to practice against because when you're blitzing playing a lot

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Speaker 4: of man, the man you're coming after your own quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I thought it developed a lot of animosity, you know,

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Speaker 4: amongst the team. So then we went out on the field,

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Speaker 4: we were three different units, the offense, the defense, which

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Speaker 4: was dominant, and the special team. So I think that

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Speaker 4: that really hurt our chance of maximizing the squad because

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Speaker 4: of its overall intensity and how the defense pretty much

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Speaker 5: Right, And you know, I wanted to ask something else,

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Speaker 5: but I'm gonna stay up there with Philadeth. You talk

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Speaker 5: about your time when you was in Philly to have

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Speaker 5: a chance to be around a guy like Reggie White.

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Speaker 3: Reggie was amazing, Like he truly was.

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Speaker 4: He was the first man to ever tell me that

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Speaker 4: he loved me.

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Speaker 3: Me growing up, seven kids, no father in the home.

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Speaker 3: You know, that was a you know, that was something

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Speaker 4: And Reggie was, you know, one of those Christians was

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Speaker 4: exactly how he portrayed himself. He wasn't two or three

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Speaker 4: was consistent. But Reggie was a big, fun loving guy.

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Speaker 4: He joked and hung around with the best of the

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Speaker 4: So Reggie was a great role model for me. The

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Speaker 3: That's who Reggie White, that was what he'd kind of

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Speaker 5: And another question I had, like personally for myself, you know,

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Speaker 5: And before you ever really got started to get to

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Speaker 5: a career in basketball. Can you talk about that a

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Speaker 5: little bit, your brother being drafted by the Lakers in

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I was the youngest of four boys. All of

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Speaker 4: football and in high school. I literally was a better

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Speaker 3: And Dre would understand this too.

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Speaker 4: And basketball is a game of amis, and I love

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Speaker 4: the game of angles and that type of math I

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Speaker 3: I hit and I felt like it gave me an advantage.

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Speaker 4: I felt like rebounding was like going to the ball

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Speaker 4: So I think that a lot of the skills from

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Speaker 4: believe that they transferred over that become functionable that you

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Speaker 4: very transferable. But then once I became one sport and

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Speaker 4: But basketball was a huge asset. Not only would me,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Randy Moss and Brad, I know you played

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Speaker 1: with them in Minnesota. You going over to Minnesota. Speak

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Speaker 4: Right even though in Philadelphia because I had an abbreviated

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Speaker 4: really only make just a slight contribution to the Eagles

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Speaker 4: in my first year. But my second year, after the

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Speaker 3: That's not the case.

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Speaker 4: They had Anthony Carter was the future wide receiver and

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Speaker 4: So I just immediately started going on scout team. I

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Speaker 4: I was getting all the reps. The coach had to

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Speaker 4: take me out like I was in there like no,

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Speaker 4: So in that season I started five games, and I

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Speaker 3: So if Dennis Green, wo me came there. Man, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what would.

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Speaker 4: Have pappited in Minnesota, like I would have been Like

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Speaker 4: a lot of guys, Man, you go to another team,

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Speaker 4: they moved you back, and then if you don't have

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Speaker 4: it's hard to be a dominant player in this league.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: So if you get on the wrong team and they

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Speaker 4: looking out for you, Man, it's really hard to be

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Speaker 3: And I'm certain you both can relate to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could definitely relate to that. I tell people

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Speaker 1: a lot about that about coach Kubiak. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think if coach Kubiak never came here, I think when

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Speaker 1: once he got here, that's what elevated my game and

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about another receiver you played with, man, Randy Moss.

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Speaker 1: Talk about him, Man, and Randy Moss was a freaking

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Speaker 1: nature man. It was, you know, one of the favorite

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Speaker 2: Also talk about him a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing about Moss Drake is, especially if you're

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Speaker 4: So and I'm not saying that to say that I

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Speaker 4: We would do stuff like, Okay, what do you think here?

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Speaker 4: If you get this look on a comeback? He's inside

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Speaker 4: what you're gonna do? He stays head up to you

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Speaker 4: outside I get to sixteen eighteen, what do I do?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: We would trade you know, secrets and stuff.

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Speaker 4: And we were going against Ania Swims, Dion, Darryl Green,

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Speaker 3: We you know, Lynch wasn't covering us, but he was

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Speaker 4: But you know, we used to be competitive and then

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Speaker 4: they used to be exchanging things with us as wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: But as soon as we drafted Randy, I told him,

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Speaker 4: tell Randy, man, you have such great athletic ability. You

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Speaker 4: So people don't ever grid give great athletes credit for

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that you know key people when I

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Speaker 3: Like he was outstanding running.

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Speaker 4: And I would think the guy that had the biggest

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Speaker 3: But Mike Quick, he really showed me how to be

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Speaker 4: You know, he was a tall, slender guy, a lot

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Speaker 3: That was gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: So what were you able to do throughout your career?

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Speaker 4: And you know to me, when you walk away from

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Speaker 4: And I always made practice of priority. I always wanted

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Speaker 3: I know what you dre. Y'all got legendary stories.

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Speaker 4: Backup Scout team, NFL dudes on the Scout team fighting

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Speaker 3: It was always important to participate in.

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Speaker 3: I've always been like this, Dray.

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Speaker 4: I've always been about running, always been about playing a

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Speaker 4: And I always knew that training was a key part

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Speaker 4: So to me, that's a key component to being great.

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Speaker 2: But those are some.

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: For one, you know, people try to downplay playing at

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Speaker 4: And the guys who played it for you in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: First Team All American, Chris Park. Those dudes know that.

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Speaker 4: So now if they put a game plan around that

447
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 4: to highlight my strengths and hide my weaknesses and give

448
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 4: me some experienced positive ones before I get crushed.

449
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 3: There's so many young.

450
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 4: Players that they get crushed early. They lose their confidence

451
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 4: and they just shell of themselves. It's like, oh man,

452
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 4: this guy won the Heisman Trophy and the next thing

453
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Speaker 4: you know, three or four years later, he's announced some

454
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 4: college football games. Oh yeah, we got a couple of

455
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 4: guys like that, They get they get crunched early in

456
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 4: their in their career, and they don't recover and their

457
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 4: confidence never recovers.

458
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Speaker 5: Right, So like from a leadership standpoint, because you know,

459
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 5: obviously in the NFL, there's only a few guys that

460
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 5: can go up, up and down the sideline and you know,

461
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 5: get on guys that's on the defensive side of guys

462
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 5: that's on the special teams unit. And you know, just

463
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 5: from looking back, you know, watching femin and seeing things

464
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 5: use a fiery guy into the game at all times.

465
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 5: You understand every situation of the game.

466
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 6: You know pretty much.

467
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 5: You know what other people jobs should be doing, what

468
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 5: they should be doing, and holding guys accountable. What kind

469
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 5: of led you to get to that moment where you

470
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 5: knew I can go out, You know, I can get

471
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 5: on the guy. I can ride a guy hard and

472
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: he can respond. I can hold guys accountable and be

473
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 5: that leader in the locker room.

474
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Speaker 4: Well, the number one thing is that's my personal acty.

475
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 4: Now that's not an excuse for it, but that is

476
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 4: my personality now developed in the right way, you know,

477
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: with the right leadership tools. But every since I was

478
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: eighty years old. You know, the coaches like what position

479
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 4: plous I play?

480
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: Quarterback?

481
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: It's like they don't play football. No, but I played

482
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 4: four That's what I played, all right. I'm the one

483
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: gonna get the snap and direct it because I love football.

484
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: No one's gonna watch more film than me. No one

485
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 4: knew the offensive system better than me. No one knew

486
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 4: all the four or five receiver positions better than me.

487
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 4: No one's gonna work harder than me. No one's gonna

488
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 4: be there earlier than me. No one's gonna stay later

489
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: than me. And guess what, Brock Ain't nobody getting ready

490
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Speaker 4: to than me? So guess what I'm getting ready to do.

491
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 4: I'm getting ready to say what I want out here,

492
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: all right, because I'm consistent with it. I talk about

493
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 4: it every single day. Greatness and how we can do

494
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 4: this together. I'm not just out there pulling shots. So

495
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: there's a sense of accountability, and guys don't like to

496
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 4: be held account Bill Belichick when they're running those six

497
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 4: six super Bowls with Tom Brady, he used to have

498
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 4: the good to baden of you every Monday after the game,

499
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 4: and he used to start with the other and that

500
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: used to be Tom Brady, and that was kind of

501
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 4: the mantra for the organization and the team.

502
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: But guys don't like to be called out.

503
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 4: They say they want to be better, but they and

504
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 4: most of the time guys ain't too tough.

505
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: They're so so sensitive. But if you're gonna get the absolute.

506
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: Best from people, you got to go to push them

507
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 4: in places that they want to go, and you got

508
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 4: to go to say things that they're uncomfortable with, and

509
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: then they.

510
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Speaker 3: Got to trust you.

511
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Speaker 4: Now, I'm not just saying you can just say anything

512
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 4: and trying to be a great leaders. Sometimes you will

513
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 4: say the wrong thing, but it's in a pursuit to

514
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: say the right thing. So I helped guys accountable, but

515
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: they could hold me accountable too, And I was consistent.

516
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 4: So I never thought I was better than them, even

517
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 4: though some of them thought that I thought that I

518
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 4: was better than them.

519
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 3: I thought that I had paid the price.

520
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: I had watched great leaders, Randall Cunningham, Reggie White, I

521
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 4: had watched those guys, and when I got to Minnesota,

522
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 4: they had great leaders there, rich Gannon, Wade Wilson, Scott Studwell,

523
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 4: and I watched them at Chris Darling and then it

524
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: was time for me to lead because I was born

525
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 4: to be a leader. I was not born to be

526
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: a follower at all times. Now, to be a great leader,

527
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 4: you got to be a good follower. But when it's

528
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 4: time for you to lead, it's time for you to leave.

529
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Speaker 4: I hope I answered your question.

530
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Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no question, no question.

531
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Speaker 5: So when you was in Minnesota, you know, you get there,

532
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: you have a second time to play with Cunningham and Minnesota.

533
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 5: You know, everybody know about their prolific offense. You had

534
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 5: just talk about, you know, obviously the league transitioning because

535
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 5: you know it was a run heavy league back you know,

536
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 5: early nineties and things like that. But you was able

537
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 5: to just to produce at a high level multiple seasons

538
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 5: over one hundred yards receptions, touchdown catching machine. I think

539
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 5: when you were done and hung them up, you had

540
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 5: the second most all time leading yards with touchdowns. So

541
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Speaker 5: just talk about being in the air whales, a run

542
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Speaker 5: dominant ara but still able to produce at a high

543
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 5: level in the league. Transition into opening up and being

544
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Speaker 5: in a past heavy offense with Robert Smith, cunning Ham

545
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Speaker 5: and those guys.

546
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely a transition, but it's all about trust.

547
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 4: And you know I came from you know, Ohio State.

548
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: They weren't trying to throw that ball.

549
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 4: Like I tell receivers, you have to convince coaches to

550
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 4: throw you the ball.

551
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are.

552
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: I told the mass that when he got there, Man,

553
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 4: you have to convince Dinnis Screen to throw you the football.

554
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 4: So every receiver's job is convinced that coaching staff when

555
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: we running around to we're doing install. If we're trying

556
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: to win, then him involved in the winning part is essential.

557
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 4: So that's when I always try to emphasize that that's important,

558
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 4: Like that part of the game is very important.

559
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: So they're not gonna get a lot of attempts.

560
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 4: Like when you come into the league, you get one

561
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: or two targets, and they got man, they got talented

562
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: guys everywhere. So you have to make the most of

563
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: your targets. And then you have to put yourself in

564
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 4: a situation that I'm the best option on this team,

565
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: and you have to convince the quarterback, the coordinator and

566
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 4: all those in charge of that I'm the best option

567
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: on this team. Throw me the ball the maxim amount

568
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 4: of time you're trying to get up to eight to

569
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 4: ten targets. When you start getting eight to ten targets,

570
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 4: now you can start cooking dudes, because now you can

571
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: start setting them up because you don't have to worry.

572
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: You don't have that anxiety.

573
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: That, oh, I'm only gonna get maybe a ball all quarter,

574
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: so you can start playing chess and compare to Checkers.

575
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: Checkers is worried about every single movie. Chess is like, Man,

576
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 4: I'm getting ready to do this, and in the fourth quarter,

577
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 4: I'm getting to give them a double movie and take

578
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 4: them to the house. So I was okay with the transition.

579
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 4: I happened to be played when we started throwing the

580
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 4: ball a little more, but I didn't take that.

581
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 3: For Brant when we played three.

582
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 4: Receivers and opened it up, like, you have to maximize

583
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 4: your attempts at getting thrown to football. If not, they

584
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 4: will go somewhere else. Like, man, we had myself, Randy Moss,

585
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: Jake Ree, Andrew Glover at tight end, Robert Smith. Oh,

586
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: we have so many options. It's like Bru, me and Boss.

587
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: You talking about it. Bru, you drop it, you don't

588
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: get the ball for a round.

589
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: Me ain't coming. We ain't coming back over there to

590
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: you for a minute, bro.

591
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: So that's the way a competitive offensive team is going

592
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: to be. And you have to take you know, because

593
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: there's no excuses man, or we didn't throw the ball,

594
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: or we didn't like you convinced those coaches you can

595
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 4: get numbers no matter where you like. You got to

596
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 4: make those guys throw you the ball. At Miami, they

597
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: wasn't just chucking the ball.

598
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: They had all those running.

599
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: Backs when they was running running, then play action and

600
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: then y'all's quarterbacks started getting better. Then y'all started being

601
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: But Miami was a running, physical football team. We did

602
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: not come into the league catching one hundred passes a year. No,

603
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: we maximize our.

604
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: Moment, which I do believe in you. Getting pro football

605
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: makes you a little tougher mental.

606
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Speaker 2: So tell me.

607
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't succeed or are not able

608
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: to succeed when they're in that situation. So tell me

609
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 1: how you were able to, you know, do what you

610
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: did and accomplish what you accomplished with playing with those quarterbacks.

611
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: Well, it was very hard.

612
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: The game is farder and you get frustrat you know,

613
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: watching guys play the game the same position as you,

614
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 4: and the game is made easier to them because they're

615
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: playing with more talented people. Like you watch guys playing

616
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: in prime time games and be like, man, I want

617
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: that opportunity for myself, But because of where I was drafted,

618
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: the organization I ended up in, I'm not having that

619
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: same opportunity. But that's why your story is so great

620
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: because now all of us, all these guys had all

621
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: these great quarterbacks. You know, to O Steve Young, Jerry

622
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: Rice has Steve Young, and Joe Montanna Mass had Brady,

623
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 4: all these guys. Man, when you get Lynn Swann, he

624
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: had Terry Bradshaw, Mike Riveran always bragging about Troy Adenen.

625
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: Now I did have Warren Moon for two years, so

626
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: I know Houston people loved Warren Moon. So let the

627
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Speaker 4: Brecords stay.

628
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: Chris Carter and Warn Moon two seasons.

629
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Speaker 2: Bruh.

630
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: We had two hundred and forty four catches twenty four

631
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: touch to me in two years. So that's what really

632
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: got my Hall of Fame career correct. Like playing with

633
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: Warren that got me some numbers that I would be

634
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: able to get with other people. But it's a struggle,

635
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: and a lot of that struggle with Dred is in

636
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 4: turn because our expectations are so high for ourselves and

637
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 4: we know that we're better than what we were showcasing.

638
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: And if we had someone to get us the ball.

639
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: Because I play a position that needs someone else to

640
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: do well for me to do well right, and it's hard,

641
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: it's hard mentally, and you get disrespected, like people disrespect

642
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: your ability because you can't showcase your ability because the

643
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: lack of pure art talent that you have at the position.

644
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: So it becomes very very frustrating. Will man, people ever

645
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: respect my emi? And there's nothing worse in life than disrespect.

646
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: I don't care what you're doing. And when you play

647
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: at a high level and you work hard and you

648
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: do everything in the right way and you stay out

649
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 4: of trouble and you say all the right stuff like Dre,

650
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 4: you expect to be rewarded for that.

651
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: And when you don't have the stats because other.

652
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: Guys have better stats in better situations, then we don't get.

653
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: The type of accolades that we should have.

654
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: We don't get in the hall when we should get in,

655
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: we have to wait because of the circumstances compared to

656
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: the overall ability. So man, I feel you like I

657
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: know you, and that's why delivering your jacket to you

658
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: had such you know, to me karma in the meaning,

659
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: because I've watched your whole career, like I've watched the

660
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: overall lack of respect for Andre Johnson your whole career.

661
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: So now we don't get that right. And that's what

662
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: the Hall Hall of Fame.

663
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: It's the ultimate corrector. Okay, well, how good it was.

664
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Speaker 4: Well he's one of the top thirty of his position

665
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: all time. He's one of the top four hundred football

666
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: players of all time. It's only twenty five thousand us

667
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 4: played this game. I would say that's pretty good and

668
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 4: that ends all the arguments and that I was like,

669
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: now they can give your accolades.

670
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Oh man, he was awesome.

671
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. You know how many highlight takes you and watching

672
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: the last three months of you people like that was

673
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: Henry Johnson. Yes, So that's why this is awesome, and

674
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: that's why I'm always about getting it right, man. Get

675
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 4: the guys in and need to be in, man, get

676
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: it right, because they deserve the flowers. The people that

677
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: helped them deserve their flowers. Their mama, they deserve they flowers.

678
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: They brother and sister, they deserved they flowers. The organization,

679
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: first organization Hall of Famer Man, they had a Hall

680
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: of Famer in the Mint and they didn't.

681
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: Mess it up. Drake. They got you to the Hall

682
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: of Fame.

683
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: And the Texans need to get credit for this, Like

684
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 4: everybody need to get their stuff. And that's what this

685
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, that's what the correction, that's what's getting.

686
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: Ready to happen.

687
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think.

688
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: I know for me, I wouldn't see like you're saying,

689
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: guys being able to play with better quarterbacks and you know,

690
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: I can sense the same frustration you would say, like

691
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: you're sitting there, you watching the game and you're like,

692
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: I know that dude is not better than me. You

693
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: know that was that was I can I can remember

694
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: sitting on my couch and you know, saying those same

695
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: words when watching. You know, some games tell me something

696
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: that I know for me, Like.

697
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: I was at my first Pro Bowl.

698
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: I got put in as an injury replacement for Stirling Shark.

699
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: I mean, great guy, he knew that I was an alternate.

700
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: We was in Atlanta. He's like he called the NFL

701
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: and was like, Hey, I'm an injured I can't play.

702
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: And then my agent called me a meeting and got

703
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 4: me in the game. So I'm in Hawaii my first

704
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: prolo Andre rising Falcons Michael Irvin and Jerry Rice and

705
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: they're arguing in the locker room.

706
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: This is nineteen ninety three.

707
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: They're arguing in the locker room and he's like, ac man,

708
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: who you think is the best receipts amongst us? And

709
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: I was like, look at all your quarterbacks. I got

710
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: over here with Jim McMahon, Right, look who y'all got

711
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: over here with.

712
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't got no answer for you. I think

713
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: I'm better than all of them.

714
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: I had to tell you that story because we have

715
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 4: those things that are very very similar, and then that happened,

716
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 4: and your personality is a little bit different than mine.

717
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: See Cristal say what he's thinking, Dre's.

718
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: Thinking, you're right.

719
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, like, I know, for me,

720
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: like game day, right, Like once I put my shoulder

721
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: paths on, you know you have that uh MoMA when

722
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: you're in the locker room. They call it different groups

723
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: to go out, and they I would never put my

724
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: shoulder paths on until they said we had two minutes

725
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: before it was time for us to go out on

726
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: the field, and that was like a switch for me.

727
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Like on game day, like once I put them shoulder

728
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: paths on, I just I went from Dre to whomever else?

729
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: You know what I without on the field? What was

730
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: it for you that just got you going?

731
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: Like?

732
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: What was it on game that that really got you?

733
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: Like just turned you from Chris Carter to whoever.

734
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: I used to always say to myself, Man, they don't

735
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 3: know whar I just to.

736
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 4: Always just repeat that, Man, they don't know what man,

737
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 4: they don't know what I'm about.

738
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: Man, they don't know nothing about man. They don't respect that.

739
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: Those are the things I used to say to myself

740
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 4: from the time I get to their ring right.

741
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: And for me, I'm a I'm an energy gun.

742
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 4: Now I don't have to be saying anything to have energy,

743
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: but I know how to measure my energy to build do.

744
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: I know? I got to play with a lot of

745
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: energy to get the best out of me.

746
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 4: So for me, I'm tapping into myself. I got the

747
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 4: game plan, I know the looks we're gonna get. I

748
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 4: know how they gonna try to defend me. So it's

749
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: me against me And I'm always talking about leaving a mark,

750
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: leaving a mark on the game.

751
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: Leave a mark on a guy.

752
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: When this guy get done with me, I'm gonna leave

753
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: a mark on right in his brain, he gonna know

754
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: he've been with CC. I'm gonna leave a mark on.

755
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: If I get one on one on the sideline, I'm

756
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: an act like I'm.

757
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: Going out of bounds. I'm getting ready to leave a

758
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: mark on. I'm getting ready to try to I'm getting ready.

759
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 4: So that conversation with myself would always go on back

760
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 4: and forth, back and forth, and then if the DV

761
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 4: says something engage is anything, it's like, oh, okay, I

762
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: got a participat, Okay, let's go now.

763
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: It's personally.

764
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 4: That's the way I played, and I had to play

765
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 4: even when I played basketball.

766
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: Now every Saturday Sunday.

767
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: Guys like why you're playing so hard would see that

768
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: like you're playing for a chimps.

769
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: Like I really don't know no better.

770
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 4: I don't know how to play half go, I don't

771
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: know how to aid this is my buddy over here

772
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 4: type thing like I don't know how to do it.

773
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 4: And that's one thing that you're gonna see when you

774
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: get in the Hall of Fame in the room and

775
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: you go to the Ray.

776
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: Ninchkie Luncheon And you know, I'm.

777
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: Like, man, all of us are the second Yeah, crazy, yes,

778
00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 4: all of us are.

779
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: We all used to think that way. Oh my goodness.

780
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 4: And the stories just going back and for man, mean,

781
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: Joe Green tells me this story about when he gets

782
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 4: drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now they drafted three or

783
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: four other Hall of Famers in that same draft. But

784
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers had a tradition from Chuck Knowle, who

785
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: was a drill sergeant, when they came out of the

786
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: locker room, that everyone would want a laugh around the

787
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: field and then they would start stretching. Me and Joe

788
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: Green came from Black College, came there, got drafted first round.

789
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: When he came onto the field, he sat down with

790
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: his helmet.

791
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: And everybody ran a wake and then the coach came out.

792
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: They said, Joe, you know it needs you to run

793
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: a lap and everything. Me and Joe Green the first

794
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: day with the Pittsburgh Steelers said, man, take me where they.

795
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: Tacked hit me. I ain't coming for all that running.

796
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 4: So there's so many stores, there's so many common out

797
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 4: of two guys that got them gold jackets that I mean,

798
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: it's one of the best things about being in the room,

799
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: Dre is that.

800
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 3: It's the first room that I felt like I wasn't

801
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: out of place.

802
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: I felt like the dudes got me, Like they understand

803
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: Like Ray Lewis understand me. Bruce Smith understands. Jerome Bettison,

804
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 4: he understands a Nia Swing. He understands Emmy Smith. He

805
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: understand me. Michael Irby understands. Troy a understand me. Dan Marino,

806
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 4: he understands me.

807
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: John Twnan.

808
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: And not just because we're all in the hall, I

809
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 4: have had time to sit down with these dudes and discuss.

810
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: Since I've been. I've been in eleven years.

811
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that we can't tell you about

812
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 4: the hall, that it's just so priceless man, that man,

813
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: the sense of belonging.

814
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: People who understand saying you, Dre, will be at an

815
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: all time.

816
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: Let me, I remember when you came to my house.

817
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: This is what made me think of this about what

818
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: you just said. You told me, you say you you

819
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: feel just like everybody else until you get to knock.

820
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: That was something you told me when you was at

821
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: my house. Can you you explain that it look because

822
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: I've been saying that, you know, in a few of

823
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: my interviews I've done, can you kind of explain that

824
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: what that what that kind of means of what that

825
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: how that feeling is?

826
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: Well, it's.

827
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you that it's it's it's one

828
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: of the most powerful things I've ever experienced.

829
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: And because of.

830
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 4: Not getting in when I thought I was going to

831
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: get in, and that frustration, in that bitterness, it.

832
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: Was all done. It was like instantly, like good news,

833
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: man is never let And.

834
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 4: It went from questioning it to such a relief of

835
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 4: the acknowledgement that I have really pretty much forgotten about

836
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: the process. And that's the way most of the guys are, like.

837
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 4: The good news is typically right on time. And I'm

838
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: glad the classmates that I went in with, and I

839
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: just have such a greater respect for the process. And

840
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: I try to tell guys, is I've been telling you

841
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: the last couple of years, a drug It's gonna happen,

842
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: all right, Just be cool, like, don't overreact like myself.

843
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 4: It's painful though. It's because you can't catch well touchdowns.

844
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: This year, you ain't playing with CJ.

845
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: Stroud.

846
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: You can't get fourteen hundred yards again, Drake, you can't

847
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: get a hundred league of the league and exept the

848
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: yardist two years in a row again, Like you can't

849
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: do nothing about it.

850
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 4: So it's frustrating because now you go back to what

851
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 4: we talked about.

852
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: When you're building your career. Man, these people don't respect me.

853
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: Like I did all that training, I did all that

854
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: stuff people didn't see and they don't know.

855
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: They still don't respect my work. Fourteen thousand dollars? What what?

856
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 4: What?

857
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: What?

858
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: What? What? Like?

859
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 4: I've never seen stats and stuff that were disrespected so much.

860
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: It was got thirteen fourteen thousand.

861
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: I was like.

862
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 3: Doing that, you know, So.

863
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: When you get that knock, man, and like, I knew

864
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 4: that something was gonna happen to you when you saw me, because.

865
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: You know me well enough to know I ain't about

866
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: no foolishness. And I am a handle of gold jacket

867
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: on it. I told you, bro, I wrote from because

868
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: I was just getting back in town. Something happened.

869
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 4: I rode on Southwest Carolines from Fort Lauderdale to Houston

870
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 4: in the middle seat to give you your goal.

871
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: Shock.

872
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, man, I appreciate that.

873
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: So, but did that answer the question.

874
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely, because I think sometimes people, you know,

875
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: they always asked me about it, and you know, I

876
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: try to explain it to them. So I think having

877
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: you on also, you know, hearing your side of it

878
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: helps out a lot too. So I got one last

879
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: question for you man before we let you go. Give

880
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: me your top five. I'm gonna put you on the spot.

881
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: I know you you're gonna speak your mind anyway. Give

882
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: me your top five receivers all time.

883
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: Top five receivers all time, all right.

884
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: Now, I'm not gonna go back into the archives anyone

885
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 4: to play for the seventies and everything. Everything in the

886
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 4: conversation starts from Jerry Rice, like we witnessed the greatest

887
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: receiver ever and there ain't no doubt about it. Okay,

888
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: what he can do, the routes he can run, his

889
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 4: overall durability, his mentality, his numbers in big games, his

890
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: numbers in Super Bowl, the seasons he played like he's

891
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: in the strategy, he is the goal.

892
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's by hisself.

893
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 3: Yes.

894
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: After that, I would go with the combination of Now

895
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you, bru, I don't like doing this,

896
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: but the.

897
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: Guys that I have seen change the game and or.

898
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 4: Played at a high enough level they deserve the respect.

899
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 4: The first two names that come to mind of mind

900
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: are Megatron and Randy Moss. Unusual size, played the position

901
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 4: different than anybody else for of.

902
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: Them on one hundred and two years before them.

903
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 4: Right, who would be the fourth best all time receiver

904
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: on Chris Carter's list?

905
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna do what people don't think I'm gonna do.

906
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna include myself. I would give the last

907
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: two spots.

908
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 4: I would probably say Terrell Owns it would be one

909
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 4: of the top five. And I really don't have a

910
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: fifth guy because I think in that fifth spot, I

911
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 4: think a lot of us sit in that spot. I

912
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 4: think Dre you could be in that spot. I believe

913
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald could be in that spot. I believe Chris

914
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 4: Carter could be in that spot. I believe Mike Ervan

915
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: could be in that spot. And there's nothing wrong with that.

916
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 4: Now you're gonna find out in the hall. Once you

917
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 4: get in the hall. Were all on the same team.

918
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: We don't like we don't we all on the same team.

919
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: All of us was bad as head.

920
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: We're on the same far.

921
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 4: But productivity doing these shows and everything. We oblige people

922
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 4: by letting into our fraternity, but in the hall, we

923
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: don't rate. We don't rape to play Jim Brown just

924
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 4: like emm A. Smith, just like Walter Pate. You can't

925
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 4: take greatness from greatness, right, So I'm gonna lead the

926
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 4: list at four and the dendum saying that there's a

927
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 4: lot of people that have played at such a high

928
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 4: level that would deserve considerations, even yourself included. Like I

929
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 4: raised Larry Fitzger and I told him a thousand times,

930
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 4: You're not better than Andre Johnson.

931
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: He's better than you.

932
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: I'm talking about workouts and games, watching film because I

933
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: knew that that would motivate him. And both of you

934
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: were great players playing the same era college and in

935
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 4: the pro. Drafted when you're gonna get drafted, So I

936
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: used to always use that as a motivation. I've always

937
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: used Andre Johnson as far as greatness, silent assassin and

938
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 4: doing things the right way.

939
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: Well, man, I can't. I can't agree with you more.

940
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: I like I like that, I like I like you,

941
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: I like that answer that you just gave. I liked

942
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: those four guys too well.

943
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: Because I've messed this little stuff a few times.

944
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 4: One time as on Mike and Mike and I tried

945
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: to be funny and everything, and the guy said what

946
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: about Megatron?

947
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: And I tried to be funny instead of sending I forgot.

948
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: I was like, no, he's not man, dude. When locker

949
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: room poured the Megatron. Next thing you know, I'm sitting

950
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: in front of Megatron.

951
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, right right, I made but Man, we appreciate you, man,

952
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 1: appreciate you for coming on and spending some time with us. Man,

953
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you in August. Brother, I

954
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you so much for coming on with us today.

955
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, we're gonna have a good time well deserved.

956
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 4: I look forward to being there every step of the way.

957
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 4: And the Houston Texan as they kick off their season.

958
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 4: It's going to be great, saluting you and Canton and

959
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 4: them them potentially doing some special special playing to the

960
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. That's what I'm looking at the crystal ball,

961
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 4: That's what it's saying, sir.

962
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: All right.

963
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 5: I appreciate it, man, Appreciate you for being yourself all times,

964
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 5: being open for the guys come up to talk to

965
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 5: just being a mentor talking at the Rookie Symposium and

966
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 5: all those things.

967
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 6: I just want to say, I appreciate it, thank.

968
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: You anyway I can help out. Man.

969
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: All love, bro, all right, Brother, appreciate you.

970
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: Man good man.

971
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Speaker 2: We'll talk all right, all right,