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Speaker 4: got a lot. We're gonna discuss andre Iguodala's retirement that

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Speaker 4: got a guest here on a Monday. He's the producer

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Speaker 4: and co host of The Raptors Show, and he's the

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Speaker 4: author of the brand new book Prehistoric, The Audacious and

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Speaker 4: Improbable Origins Story of the Toronto Raptors.

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Speaker 1: It's Alex Wong. Alex. What's up man?

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Speaker 5: Hey, what's up? Guys? Thanks for having me on. You

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Speaker 5: know book is coming out this week. But this is,

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Speaker 5: like I told you guys off air, this this is

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Speaker 5: the only this is the only podcast I'm excited to

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Speaker 4: To everyone who's booked me, Yeah, you must have a

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Speaker 4: you must have a busy week lined up here, not

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Speaker 4: only just the start of the season. Obviously you guys

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Speaker 4: will have the Raptor show, but yeah, you'll be doing

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Speaker 4: all the press here for this incredible new book.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been super fun, you know, obviously talking to

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Speaker 5: you guys, talking to everyone. This project I finished earlier

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Speaker 5: this year. But to be able to now finally get

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Speaker 5: feedback from everybody and hear what people what tippets and

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Speaker 5: stories from the book that people never knew about, or

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Speaker 5: things from the first year that people have forgotten about.

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Speaker 5: All that stuff is super fun. Like, I think this

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Speaker 5: is the part of finishing a book and writing a

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Speaker 5: to be able to finally interact with someone Because when

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Speaker 5: you write a book, you hold on to it yourself

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Speaker 5: for like two years, three years as you're working through it,

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Speaker 5: and you finally release it out to the world. It's

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Speaker 5: a it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 4: You know, guys, how long were you thinking about writing

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Speaker 4: this book. You've obviously written some other books. We loved

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Speaker 4: cover Story, but how long was this one in the works?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I think even before I pitched Cover Story, And

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Speaker 5: I've always thought about wanting to write a story about

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Speaker 5: the origin story of the Raptors because when they started

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Speaker 5: So honestly, going way back, ever since I've gotten into this,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would actually say Ac Earl. You know, I'm

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Speaker 5: sure Raptors fans will remember Ac as a cult figure.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we need to do people forget a

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Speaker 5: Of yeah, people forget. People forget he was a problem

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Speaker 4: Do you have a favorite like little anecdote from the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, My favorite part was actually diving into a story

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Speaker 5: It was the biggest party of that season for the Raptors,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was actually my least favorite part. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: of my favorite parts in the book, though, Alex is

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Speaker 5: wel just about you know Toronto, the Raptors, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Again, this book is phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: Let's pivot from the past though, to the to the

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Speaker 1: That's our corner.

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Speaker 5: But so many things I want to say.

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Speaker 4: Here are there reasons to be optimistic about the twenty

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Speaker 1: What's your what's your feeling about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Get Will on the line. Man. Every time I'm pessimistic,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I thought the Washington game the preseason game on Friday,

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Speaker 4: And what do you how many wins do you see

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Speaker 1: Where do you have them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So SPORTSNAD actually asked me to summit my official prediction,

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Speaker 2: Uh, do you think the Raptors are gonna be competitive

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Speaker 5: Like if Pascal Siakam's you know, a little bit under

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Speaker 2: Don't even give it a name, just called what it is.

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Speaker 5: They just call it that. Alex.

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Speaker 4: How do we feel about Grady Dick, the Raptor's rookie

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Speaker 5: with Drake, so like Grady Dick is already ahead of

435
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Speaker 5: the curve.

436
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird cult we got going on up there,

437
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 1: for sure, the Drake cult.

438
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Speaker 2: Who is the best We the North sayer right now?

439
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 2: Is it still Gary Trent Junior?

440
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 5: Yeah? Gary's pretty good. But the all time will always

441
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 5: be when they first landed. I believe this was in

442
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 5: Tampa when Malchi Flynn and Jalen Harris were in a

443
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 5: video together after being drafted and had to say, we

444
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 5: the North. If anybody can pull that up, it's amazing

445
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 5: because I've never seen some two NBA players look like

446
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 5: they were being held hostage, like they were just like,

447
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 5: hey guys, but we the North. Like there's no excitement

448
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 5: behind did nothing.

449
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 1: Today is NBA Jersey Day?

450
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:04,719
Speaker 3: Uh?

451
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 4: The NBA told us last week it would be celebrated

452
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 4: today on Monday, the day before the start of the season.

453
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Speaker 1: Uh.

454
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Speaker 4: You you are a man that I mean, you got

455
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 4: a lot of great vintage finds. What's your favorite NBA

456
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 4: jersey that you owned?

457
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 5: Favorite one? I own is actually a vintage champion Houston

458
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 5: Rockets Robert or Okay, so I was a huge fan

459
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,199
Speaker 5: of just I don't know if you guys are like

460
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 5: this growing up, Like I just like a particular type

461
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 5: of player. So for me growing up, I just love

462
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 5: either power forwards, like nineties power forwards, like I remember

463
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 5: I used to track to. I spent so much time

464
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 5: tracking down at tyrone Hill like starting lineup figure that

465
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 5: it was like unhealthy, and I just love.

466
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Speaker 2: Was Tyrone Hill possibly doing as an action.

467
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 5: Figure honestly, no comment, but like but like, yeah, Robert,

468
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 5: Robert orri was, like I love those role players, like

469
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 5: role players who would become like superhero types in the playoffs.

470
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 5: And and and ri Is is obviously well known for

471
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 5: so many moments with the Lakers and the Spurs, but

472
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 5: like a little bit older fans like myself remember him

473
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 5: on Houston too when he was just coming up and

474
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 5: the Rockets won those two championships. So for me to

475
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 5: track down that Robert or jersey was was a blessing.

476
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 5: Like I've I've passed on a lot of my jerseys

477
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 5: now to friends, to my nephews as well, because they're

478
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 5: starting to get into basketball, but the ori one uh

479
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 5: is stays with me.

480
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 1: Shout out to Henry and Owen.

481
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, wow, yeah, yeah people people people knowing them

482
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 5: by name is crazy.

483
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: I see them all over your Instagram account. Yeah, I

484
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: feel like my nephews, like.

485
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 5: I tell like I tell my nephews. Man, I'm gonna

486
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 5: hang out with you. If there's no content, like there

487
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 5: has to be content, We're getting content.

488
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: Young kids, Uh tend to like these City Edition jerseys

489
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: that we've seen popping up. There's obviously a whole new

490
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: crop of thirty of them for this season, Alex. Not

491
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: great reviews though, I would say for the majority of

492
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 2: these City Edition jerseys, what do you think about this

493
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: entire program where every team's getting some kind of new

494
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: look every year?

495
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, shows up close. Friends at Nike, please continue to

496
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 5: see me. But what is going on with this jersey situation? Guys, like, like,

497
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 5: is this my new theory is that there's a designer

498
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 5: at Nike that's just trolling the NBA, Like, like, if

499
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 5: you look at it from that perspective, then I think

500
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 5: some of these designs make sense. And I think when

501
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 5: you guys talk about the City Edition program, like I

502
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 5: think you guys will agree there's just too many of them.

503
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 5: There's too many of them. Like growing up, when I

504
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 5: watched the Knicks, when I watched the Pacers, when I

505
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 5: watch the Magic, when I watch the Bulls, I associated

506
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 5: them with maybe one, two, maybe three max jerseys, like

507
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 5: over the course of an entire decade. Like when I

508
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 5: think about Reggie Miller, when I think about Patrick Ewing,

509
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 5: when I think about MJ, I only see them in

510
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 5: like two three jerseys, right and now it's like when

511
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 5: I think about Gianni's, He's in like nine different jerseys

512
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 5: and five of them say Cream City. So it's, you know,

513
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 5: I don't know how good that is. And it's like

514
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 5: I was looking at all the jerseys before coming on today,

515
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 5: like all the best throwback jerseys or the city edition

516
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 5: jerseys are the ones where they just throw it back

517
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 5: one hundred percent, like the Orlando Magic. I think the

518
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 5: Charlotte Hornets are throwing it back too, to kind of

519
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 5: that Baron Davis era. So it's it's it's very scary

520
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 5: to me, Like you know, I think all of us

521
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 5: love jerseys. I love how I'm saying, it's scary to me,

522
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 5: like this something really concerning to me. Guys, you just

523
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 5: take a second to think about this. But it's like,

524
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 5: like where are the new cool jersey designs gonna come from?

525
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 5: Like like these kids like I used to go to

526
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 5: the mall and like just you know, bang my parents

527
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 5: to like please buy me a single jersey, like our

528
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 5: kids today like having that same feeling. Are they still

529
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 5: going to malls?

530
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Speaker 3: Guys?

531
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 5: This is a real serious situation.

532
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: Scary out there. You might wake up one day and

533
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: see the scariest jersey you've ever seen.

534
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were looking at them before we went live here,

535
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 4: and I think we'll do a segment on Tomorrow's No

536
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 4: Dunks maybe going through all of them. There are most

537
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 4: of them, are you know? Most of our official sum

538
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 4: are still leaked. But of these new City edition jerseys,

539
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: there's like there's like four that I'm like, okay, that's

540
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: not bad, and another twenty six where you're right, Alex,

541
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: it looks like somebody's either trying to troll the NBA

542
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 4: or mailing it in Like look at this Nuggets jersey.

543
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 4: Hey do you like numbers?

544
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 5: No? No for the altitude like the yeah man, they

545
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 5: oh my god. You know. The worst one is the

546
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 5: one that says heat culture. It's like, it's like they

547
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 5: why don't you guys just slap live, laugh, love on it,

548
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 5: like like who's like who who goes yo? This is

549
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 5: our team slogan or this is what we're knowing by

550
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 5: and this is gonna be the Jersey? What are we doing?

551
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: It's almost amazing that the Raptors have somehow not come

552
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 4: out with a wee the North Jersey.

553
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

554
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 5: Please don't no, please skeet stop. Don't give them any

555
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 5: ideas like this is going to get produced tomorrow.

556
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 3: That's true.

557
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,479
Speaker 1: That's true.

558
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 4: Well, you said you're talking about the Raptors obviously on

559
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 4: the Raptor Show, but you're you're expanding it. It's two

560
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 4: hours now, so a lot more NBA talk. What's one

561
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: popular prediction Alex that you've seen that you think is

562
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 4: completely wrong heading into this new season or that you

563
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 4: just take the opposite look at.

564
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say I feel like the popular opinion

565
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 5: is that the Sixers are going to be a really

566
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 5: good regular season team. They're gonna compete again and be

567
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 5: a fringe championship contender. And my hot take has been

568
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 5: that the Sixers are going to be in the play

569
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 5: in this year. You know, I feel like why, like

570
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 5: number one, like why are we just assuming? And it's

571
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 5: just reported again that James Harden still hasn't come back

572
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 5: to practice and joined the team this week, Like why

573
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 5: are we just assuming just because they were able to

574
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 5: weather the Ben Simmons situation that you know they're able

575
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 5: to deal with this James Harden situation. And like, I

576
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: haven't seen a single trade package from the Clippers that

577
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,239
Speaker 5: would make me feel good about the return and what

578
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 5: that would look like for the team. I think I

579
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 5: think sometimes teams simply run their course. Like all due

580
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 5: respect to to the MVP Joel Embiid, Like I look around,

581
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 5: like outside of Tyres MAXI are there a lot of

582
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 5: players on this team that you're super excited about? And

583
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 5: I think I just think there's a lot of like

584
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 5: season from hell potential for this team. And I think,

585
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 5: you know, we don't wish injuries on anyone, but it's

586
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 5: like you look at this roster, like of the top

587
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 5: teams of the top like four or five teams in

588
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 5: the East, this is the one team that can least

589
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 5: afford an injury to their best player, Like if Joan

590
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: b goes down, reminds me of those kind of Cleveland

591
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 5: lebron you know, early career situations where you look at

592
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 5: the rest of the roster and you're like, wow, the

593
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 5: rest of the roster is like a twenty five win team.

594
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 5: So I just think there's a lot of factors that

595
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 5: play right now, and at the top of it is

596
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 5: the fact that their second best player is causing all

597
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 5: this chaos. And just because it's been chaotic in Philly

598
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 5: for a whole decade, we just assume that's okay, Like

599
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 5: this is not normal, guys, this is another serious situation

600
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 5: we need.

601
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 4: And what's the what's the over under on the number

602
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 4: of games it takes for Nick Nurse to start calling

603
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 4: out some seventy six ers players.

604
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: In the media?

605
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 5: You mean on his burner account? You heard about this

606
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 5: story that's been circulating, guy.

607
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 1: I hear you always mentioned it. I hear you always

608
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: mentioned it.

609
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 5: So the potential there's a potential burner account, I don't

610
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 5: that is maybe directly. I don't think it's directly Nick Nurse,

611
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 5: but maybe someone related to him who has been replying

612
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 5: to everything that's Nick Nurse related, who has been saying

613
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: that the Raptors only had three good players last season,

614
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 5: et cetera. So wow, you guys gotta look into that.

615
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 5: I'm send I must send Jerome a black Dragon roll

616
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 5: all the information after. But yeah, I don't know. I

617
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 5: don't know the public callouts. I mean, Chris Bouchet was

618
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 5: on our show last week and we asked him about it,

619
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 5: and he said, hey, I just got used to it

620
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 5: at some point, And I'm like, that's that's not a

621
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 5: healthy answer when you're just used to your coach calling

622
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 5: you out. So I don't know. I think it's gonna

623
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 5: maybe two weeks. I think I'm gonna give it two weeks.

624
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 5: I think I'm trying to think. I think, you know,

625
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: the Anthony Melton, Paul Reid, you know, one of these

626
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 5: role guys. You better be careful. You better be careful

627
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 5: that callout is coming.

628
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. It won't be nurse really calling out

629
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: dwell Embiid or Maxie.

630
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: It'll be one of those guys trying to like really

631
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: crack the rotation or get an opportunity and nurse see

632
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 4: something he doesn't like and trying to coach him up

633
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: through the media that way.

634
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: I love it.

635
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 4: Can't I can't. I always forget that Nick Nurse is

636
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: the coach of the Philadelphia seventy six or that would

637
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: be like a huge change if that was the only change.

638
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 4: Saying by to Doc Rivers, Nick Nurse come into town,

639
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: christpensation he got used to getting called out? Did the

640
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 4: players get used to their coach coming into the locker

641
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: room with an acoustic guitar to strum along. I think

642
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: that traveled to Philadelphia. That goes over in a new

643
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 4: locker room.

644
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna see. I think that is a really

645
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 5: interesting dynamic.

646
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: You know.

647
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 5: I think Nick, what we've learned from his tenure in

648
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 5: Toronto is he's just a big personality, right, Like he

649
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 5: wants to have his imprint on the team. And I

650
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. And listen, if

651
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 5: I was promoted to head coach after like, you know,

652
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 5: toiling around in the G League as an assistant for

653
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: so many years and won a championship in my first year,

654
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Speaker 5: like I'd be moving around like Nick Nurse too, you know, like,

655
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Speaker 5: don't tell me what to do. I'm gonna call out

656
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 5: all the players, like I know, I know what's good.

657
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Speaker 5: So like, but I do think it's gonna be interesting

658
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 5: because Nick Nurse has been known to be a great

659
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Speaker 5: tactician in the playoffs, and this is exactly what the

660
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 5: Sixers need. So I do wonder. I do wonder, like,

661
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Speaker 5: do they have good enough of a roster to final

662
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Speaker 5: give a quote unquote better head coach a chance to

663
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Speaker 5: get them over the hump in the playoffs this season.

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Speaker 5: I'm still very skeptical about just the overall team.

665
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Speaker 4: Well, to bring it back to Alex's new book, Prehistoric,

666
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Speaker 4: It's available everywhere tomorrow at October twenty fourth. I know

667
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: some of you have already pre ordered. I saw people

668
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 4: tweeting at me pre ordered check Mark, so you got

669
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Speaker 4: to love to see that.

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Speaker 1: Alex.

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Speaker 4: This book, though, again phenomenal if you are a Raptors

672
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: fan or no a Raptors fan in your life. I

673
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: think it's like the perfect like holiday gift with a

674
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Speaker 4: Christmas right around the corner, So go grab this. I

675
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: absolutely loved it. One other favorite moment from this book.

676
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Speaker 4: You're writing about Vincenzo Esposito Carlos Rogers getting into it

677
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: basically like fighting in practice and then having an epic

678
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Speaker 4: one on one game, And I could have read ten

679
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Speaker 4: chapters about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that you know, at one point during

681
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Speaker 5: the summer, I was only on WhatsApp chatting with two people,

682
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 5: Vincenzo and my mom. And I don't know why, I've

683
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 5: just found that so funny those were the two names

684
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Speaker 5: on there. But yeah, Vincenzo was another guy that was

685
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Speaker 5: super fun to talk to. He's coaching overseas now and

686
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 5: he had some great memories, including that one story you

687
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Speaker 5: talked about that Vincenzo wasn't playing a lot at the

688
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Speaker 5: start of the season, but he was like going at

689
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Speaker 5: everybody in practice. And I think Vincenzo is one of

690
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Speaker 5: those guys who's got this like pretty like confidence slash

691
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 5: cocky attitude that really rubbed himself the wrong way on

692
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Speaker 5: some of the guys. And and you know, one of the

693
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Speaker 5: times after practice he just challenged Carlos Rogers to this

694
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Speaker 5: one on one match, and everybody, just like all the

695
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: players and coaches has like changed their clothes, and even

696
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 5: Brendan Malone, who was like a very serious dude, was

697
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Speaker 5: like all right, almost sit in the bleachers and watch

698
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Speaker 5: how this unfold. So it was like super fun. But

699
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Speaker 5: Vincenzo told me like, oh, after that, like him and

700
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Speaker 5: Carlos got really close, and you know, Carlos would talk

701
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 5: about going to visit in Italy and they really got

702
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 5: to know each other. So all that stuff, all that

703
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 5: stuff in that book, Like there's just so many tidbits

704
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 5: about just the relationships with the guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool, all right, Alex.

706
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Speaker 4: Final thoughts here, Plug the book, plug the Raptors Show,

707
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: and tell people where they can follow your work.

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00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

709
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Speaker 5: Book is called Prehistoric. Go order it, watch the Raft Show,

710
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: follow me on Twitter. Uh, Steven Underscore Lebron, I gez

711
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 5: as Stephen Lebron and you know, before I before I

712
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Speaker 5: leave as well, I just want to give a quick

713
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Speaker 5: shout out to Task. I know I saw you guys

714
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 5: post a photo with him. I've been talking to Jerome

715
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 5: aka Black dragon Roll. I've just got to call him Jerome, man.

716
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 5: I can't be calling him black. This is a grown man.

717
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 5: I respect you, Jerome, I love you, but like you know,

718
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Speaker 5: I you know, I I hear that Task is getting better,

719
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm super glad to hear that Task.

720
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're watching or not, but you know,

721
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Speaker 5: I just want want you to know that I'm thinking

722
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 5: of you will and I the whole crew as well.

723
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 5: And I did hear Task is trying to get back

724
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 5: to the show soon. Task. Let me tell you man,

725
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: as someone who always tells people take the longest time goingness,

726
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 5: take the longest route back to work if you have

727
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 5: a chance to not work. So shall see you Task,

728
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 5: Shall see you, Skeets and Trey. I always appreciate you guys,

729
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 5: and it's always fun. And I promise you next time

730
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Speaker 5: I write a book, I will bring a microphone.

731
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Speaker 4: All right, yeah, hey, next time, get me on the

732
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Speaker 4: back of the book with the blurb I sent a God, do.

733
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Speaker 5: I have one minute to talk about book blurb?

734
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

735
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I was like, Man, I wrote a

736
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Speaker 4: killer blurb.

737
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Speaker 1: This is getting on this whole for sure.

738
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Speaker 5: So here's the blurb from Jay Skeet quote, when did

739
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 5: you fall in love with basketball? It's a question I've

740
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 5: often asked. Thankfully, my answer is to now just hand

741
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 5: over a copy of Prehistoric, which perfectly captures the joy

742
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 5: of having our own NBA team to root for as

743
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 5: a young teen, the Purple Jerseys, a Skydom Mighty Mouse.

744
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: This is the ultimate trip down memory lane and a

745
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: muster read for any Canadian hoops head. Once again, We'll

746
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 5: loo you could say this on air every day and

747
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: it would really help my book pretty good. It was

748
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 5: an amazing blurb. So here's what happened. So here here's

749
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 5: my whole strategy. Because I'm a long term thinker. When

750
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 5: I was writing cover Story, I was like, my next

751
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 5: book is probably going to be a Raptor's book, So

752
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask Trey. I'm gonna ask Trey to to

753
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 5: blurb cover Story, which she did, and then I'm gonna

754
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 5: ask Skeets and Tasks to blurb a raptors specific book.

755
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 5: And that's what I did. I ask both of you.

756
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 5: The problem is, so I sent out blurb requests to

757
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 5: like ten people, because usually you do that because we

758
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 5: are notorious the most unreliable people, just like sports media people.

759
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 5: And you're like, hey, please read my book, please do

760
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: a blurb, and you expect out of the ten people,

761
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 5: maybe you get answers from like five of them, and

762
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: that's what you hope for because then you put like

763
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Speaker 5: four or five blurbs in there. So what happened was

764
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Speaker 5: all ten people reply wow, been like the two week requirement,

765
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Speaker 5: and then I told my publisher, I'm like, can you

766
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: can I take a look at at a back cover

767
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 5: where all the blurbs are in there, and it just

768
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 5: looked insane because they had like everything that's fair. And

769
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: then and then I was like, man, how do I

770
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: do this like in a way that doesn't like, you know,

771
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: mess everyone up or like get anyone upset at me?

772
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 5: And then I just decided to just go based on

773
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 5: who sent it to me first. So like the first

774
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: five people who sent it to me first. And but

775
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 5: your blurb is up on Amazon, on INDG, It's everywhere

776
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: along with tasks, and I just want you guys to

777
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 5: know that I do super appreciate it. You know, I

778
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 5: started going to therapy this year. My therapist told me

779
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: to stop thinking in such as like for a time

780
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: I would be like, oh my god, Skeets and Taz

781
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 5: hate me forever. I am the worst person. But I

782
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 5: was able to overcome those thoughts and come on this

783
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 5: podcast and give you guys a classic on Mondays. You did.

784
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Speaker 4: Indeed, I'm happy to know it made it onto the

785
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: digital version.

786
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Speaker 1: Of the book.

787
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Speaker 4: All right, everybody, alex Wan go get Prehistoric. We're gonna

788
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: take you a quick break and when we come back,

789
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: some NBA news don't go anywhere.

790
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Speaker 5: To change.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

792
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

793
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we gotta get you a soundboard again. Remember the

794
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: soundboard days I do, remember, Yeah, we gotta fire that up,

795
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: just you know, add something else to your you need. Yeah, yeah,

796
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 4: more things to incorrectly press at the wrong time.

797
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: Raptor Show's got a soundboard they do. That's wild.

798
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: They do.

799
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: They must have like an entire Devlin section. It's all Devlent,

800
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: that's true.

801
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: Check out the Raptors Show.

802
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: Not only just read a prehistoric, it's one of my

803
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: favorite Raptors podcasts out there. We got a bunch of

804
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: NBA news to break down here. Let's start with the

805
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 4: sad news. This came out on Sunday. Memphis Grizzly center

806
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 4: Steven Adams will undergo season ending surgery on the PCL

807
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: and his right knee. The big man injured his knee

808
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: in January, which kept him out for the rest of

809
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: that season, and the team said he had to have

810
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 4: this surgery after non operative rehab failed to resolve ongoing instability.

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Speaker 4: So this is another tough blow here for the Grizzlies,

812
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Speaker 4: who are already going to miss joh Morant for twenty

813
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: five games, their guy that would have probably slotted into

814
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: Steven Adams position in Brandon Clark. He's going to miss

815
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: the start of the season. So what do you think

816
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: about Adams here this unfortunate news and how the Grizzlies

817
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: will fare get your.

818
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Speaker 2: Xavier Tillman Senior stocks Gates. Yeah, seems like we're gonna

819
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: see a lot more of him. But this is a

820
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: significant injury for the Grizzlies enough that if we were

821
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Speaker 2: doing our over under podcasts, I would probably now go

822
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: under forty five and a half wins for Memphis last

823
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Speaker 2: season twenty eight and fourteen with Big Steve on the court,

824
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Speaker 2: twenty three and seventeen without so a little bit better.

825
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: But they're really gonna miss just the physicality he brings.

826
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 2: He's a great screen setter for Ja Morant whenever he returns,

827
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Speaker 2: would obviously be a great screen setterer for Smart and

828
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: Baine as well. He's killer on the offensive glass and

829
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: then on the defensive glass. He definitely helps rebounding, but

830
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: he also keeps bodies off Jaron Jackson Junior allows him

831
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: to really roam and make an impact defensively. The file

832
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: trouble will be even more in question. I think with

833
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: JJJ this season. If he's going to be running a

834
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: lot more center minutes out there, they're gonna be playing

835
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: younger guys in Tillman, Santi Al dama Zaier Williams will

836
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: probably get a nice shot here. They've been drafting three,

837
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: four five positions for the past couple of seasons, so

838
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 2: the guys are there, but they're skinnier or they're slower.

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Speaker 2: There's not the perfect combination that they had between Jaren

840
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: Jackson Junior as the athletic shot blocking type and then

841
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 2: Steven Adams as the space taker up sort of big

842
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: beefy center. So yeah, this is a big time miss

843
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: for the Grizzlies. And I don't know, I mean, like

844
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: we're saying the under scenes in play now, and the

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Speaker 2: Grizzlies are a team that has been near the top

846
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: of the Western Conference. They could very easily finish in

847
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: the middle.

848
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What's really a bummer about this too, is like he

850
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: hurts it. I said in January.

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00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 4: You know it's coming up to a year ago, really

852
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 4: and you get never wanting to like, well, let's just

853
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: do surgery and get it over with. But it feels

854
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: like that would have been maybe the smarter move here. Unfortunately, right,

855
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: But they tried to do the nonoperative rehab, like I said,

856
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: and it just failed at least with his sort of

857
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: stability and how good he felt on that knee. But man, yeah,

858
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 4: if they had done it back then, then you sort

859
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: of have him coming back probably at some point this season.

860
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Speaker 4: But instead Adam's done for the season with that season

861
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Speaker 4: ending surgery. And yeah, I guess if you're playing fantasy basketball,

862
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: look at Tillman Aldama. I think will get some opportunity

863
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: alongside Jaron Jackson Junior. So maybe if you're going, if

864
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: they're not taking up off the waiver wires yet, go

865
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Speaker 4: grab those guys. If you're playing fantasy hoops, Are you

866
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 4: playing fantasy hoops?

867
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Speaker 3: No?

868
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: No, well I've been retired for a while.

869
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: Only reality hoops for me. Okay, Ever since the fantasy

870
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: Unicorn went away, I haven't been in the mix. I've

871
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 2: been searching for it in the fantasy forests out there,

872
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: trying to capture it for a real basketball team, the Grizzlies.

873
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 2: What do you think about them going after Rob Williams

874
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: there in Portland saw that.

875
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 4: Of course, you always see, Hey, Dwight Howard, here's your

876
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: team to come play for as well.

877
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean sure, yeah.

878
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: Because it's not like this is a couple months. This

879
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 4: is the season here that he's out, and I know

880
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: he's uh Steven Adams feels like he's forty, but he's

881
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: not even thirty, So he could come back from this injury,

882
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 4: though a giant do with a knee injury. That's always tough. Yeah,

883
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: So do you pivot and try and find sort of

884
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 4: a five to play alongside Jaren Jackson Junior, who they

885
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: obviously just don't want to play all that much at

886
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: center right, and part of it is foul trouble. I

887
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: get that, but he also could I mean he's a

888
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: big ass dude too, Like I mean, he's like a

889
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: six eleven guy that leads the league and shoplock. Yes,

890
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: like he should in theory be able to play that

891
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: position in today's game. Uh yeah, Just I don't know

892
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 4: what it would take to sort of to get him

893
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 4: from the Portland tree of Blazers.

894
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably a pick or a pick and

895
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: a swamp or something like that, just because the Blazers

896
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: would be holding the cards. But the Grizzlies are a

897
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: team that has some assets because they're usually pretty stingy

898
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: with their draft picks because they like drafting. I think

899
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: another possible solution for them would be Clint Capella if

900
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: things don't go has anticipated in Atlanta here, the future

901
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: at the big position for Atlanta is going to be

902
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: a congu for sure. But Cappella is a little bit

903
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: more similar to Steven Adams than I think Rob Williams

904
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: is to Steven Adams. Williams play is pretty similar to

905
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson Junior being able to roam and influence shots

906
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: at the rim, whereas Capella is getting bodies on people.

907
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: He's a great rebounder as well. What you need next

908
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: to Jaron Jackson Junior.

909
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: The other potential center to sort of target, if it's

910
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: possible at all, is bring jonas Alan Chunis back. Yeah,

911
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 4: sure to Memphis if you know, maybe things go poorly

912
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: for the Pelicans and they go a different direction, but

913
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 4: probably unlikely.

914
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: All right.

915
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: Our next piece of news again happened on Friday. Andrea Goodala,

916
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 4: four time NBA champ with the Warriors, announced his retirement

917
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 4: last week.

918
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: It's official.

919
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: In nineteen seasons, Igdala averaged eleven point three points, four

920
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 4: point nine rebounds, rebounds, and four point two assists in

921
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 4: over twelve hundred games, and you see the accolades there.

922
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: Four time champ, won the twenty fifteen Finals, MVP, one

923
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 4: time All Star, and then two time All Defensive selections.

924
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: Any thoughts on this news? Igdala here hanging it up.

925
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: He had a long career nineteen seasons in the NBA.

926
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: I think we're going to start seeing those kinds of

927
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: numbers since guy's coming to the league more often and

928
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 2: know how to take care of their bodies at this point.

929
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: But Iguidala has been a fun guy to watch throughout

930
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: his career. It was cool when he was playing with

931
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: Alan Iverson they had two Ais on the same team,

932
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: and he looked like he was going to be the

933
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: athletic scoring wing future there. He was a good scorer

934
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: yep at the time, but he really found his calling

935
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: kind of after going to Team USA playing role player

936
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 2: basketball and then being like the epitome of a role

937
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: player glue guy with the Warriors. He made the death

938
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: line possible for the most part and was such a

939
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: smart player that as his athleticism declined later and later

940
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: in his career, he was still able to contribute, getting

941
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: a better outside jump shot being a passer and just

942
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: being knowing where to be defensively, having incredibly quick cans.

943
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: He must have led the league in strip sacks. That's

944
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: an NFL term, but low strips, you know, rather than

945
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: straight up steel. So yeah, you know, nineteen seasons. Not

946
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: a surprise when somebody retires after that long and definitely

947
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: not a surprise that the guy wants to go on

948
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: to own his own team. He's apparently now a venture capitalist.

949
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's I think he has set himself up well.

950
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 4: Yeah for his post NBA career. Is Andre Guodola a

951
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: future Hall of Famer?

952
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: At all?

953
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: His teams will be in there?

954
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: Oh you think that the Warriors.

955
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: Or at least the Warriors, the mid two thousands Warriors.

956
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: I think we'll get in there. I don't know, And

957
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: I never want to say somebody is not a Hall

958
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: of Famer because they might find out on Instagram and

959
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: start sliding our shout out to the rock. But Andrea

960
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: Iguidala himself said he doesn't think he's a Hall of

961
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: Famer on a podcast.

962
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I statitudes, it's a newsletter.

963
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: I love.

964
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 4: They had the breakdown over the weekend about whether or

965
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 4: not Andre Igdala is a Hall of Famer. Justin He

966
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 4: goes through a bunch of questions for all of the

967
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: people when he's assessing their Hall of Fame credentials. First one,

968
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 4: was he ever regarded as the best player in basketball? No,

969
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: for Andre Igodala. Was he the best player in his team?

970
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 4: Justin argues he was on the seventy six ers for

971
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 4: a window there six oh seven to maybe twenty eleven twelve.

972
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 4: Those teams they wont about forty six percent of their games.

973
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: They made the playoffs four times in the six seasons.

974
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: They only won one playoff series. Trey Kirby remembers it well, unfortunately.

975
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I was watching it at six twenty eight Fleet Street.

976
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 4: Yes, I was with you when Derrick Rose went down.

977
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: That was the one eight match up there and they

978
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: did beat the roseless Bulls in that series. Did he

979
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 4: have an impact on a number of NBA finals or

980
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: conference finals? Absolutely? Igdola did, specifically the finals MVP in

981
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen when they beat the Cavs and six are

982
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 4: most players who have comparable statistics in the Hall of Fame.

983
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: This is the one that intrigued me. Igdala is one

984
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: of twenty one players in NBA history to record at

985
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 4: least ten thousand points, five thousand boards, and five thousand assists.

986
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: Of those other.

987
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: Twenty players, fifteen are in the Hall of Fame, four

988
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 4: are still active but will be elected Lebron, Hardened Westbrook

989
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: and Chris Paul, and one is retired but not yet

990
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: eligible for the Hall.

991
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: Joe Johnson also on that.

992
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: Little sort of list there, but justin points out at statitudes,

993
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 4: Igadala ranks twenty first among those players in points, twentieth

994
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: in assists, and fifteenth in rebounds, so he's at the

995
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: bottom of that group if you're picking those. And then

996
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: the final one I'll go with here is do the players'

997
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: numbers meet Hall of Fame standards? If you look at

998
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 4: his Hall of Fame probability, it's like twelve point seven percent,

999
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: which is pretty low, and only one All Star selection.

1000
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: There are not guys in the Hall of Fame with

1001
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: two or less. I think it's genobil. I want to say,

1002
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 4: like Kelvin Murphy and Vlade are the only other ones

1003
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 4: with with two or two or yeah, so that that's

1004
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 4: sort of tough too, But I guess it got a

1005
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: gold medal, Yeah, helps USA player and he's got multiple titles,

1006
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 4: which will be the case, you know, once staff retires

1007
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: Draymond and Clay and they start getting into the Hall

1008
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: of Fame, maybe his Hall of Fame case kind of

1009
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: picks up steam at that point where you're like, he

1010
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 4: was an integral member of all of those teams.

1011
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also wild to think.

1012
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: I think I saw this in Woesa's article writing about

1013
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 4: the retirement. In July twenty thirteen, Igodala turned down a

1014
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 4: five year contract with the Nuggets to join the Warriors

1015
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: via the sign and trade on a four year, forty

1016
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: eight million dollar contract.

1017
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean, what a move for his career.

1018
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: That was a controversial move, I know, because hadn't the

1019
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: Warriors beat the Nuggets and the Yes playoffs previously and

1020
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: they thought Iguadala was like giving them state secrets from

1021
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: the Nuggets to the Warriors and then he switched teams

1022
00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: the next year.

1023
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: That's right, That's right.

1024
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 4: But man, that turned out well for him, winning a

1025
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 4: bunch of championships on the Warriors.

1026
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that goes down there in Denver.

1027
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, all right, so I don't think he'll ultimately

1028
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 4: get in.

1029
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: It sounds like you don't as well at nor does Egadolla.

1030
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, but you never know, You never know down

1031
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 4: the line contract extensions today, I believe is the last

1032
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: day right for players on the last year of their

1033
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: first round rookie scale deals and extension eligible veterans with

1034
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 4: two years left on their deals to get a contract extension.

1035
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 4: And we had a few come in here. I'm just

1036
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: going to throw them all at your Trey. Tell me

1037
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: the ones you want to talk about. We had the

1038
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: Wizards Denny Avdia agreeing to a four year, fifty five

1039
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: million dollar extension, the Spurs and Zach Collins they reached

1040
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 4: a two year, thirty five million dollar extension, and the

1041
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 4: Nuggets extended Zeke nase on a four year, thirty.

1042
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Two million dollar deal. What do you think any any.

1043
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: Thoughts on players are expensive these days, Skimes.

1044
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: That's why you see some people freaking out.

1045
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: Thirty two million dollars for Zeke nause And I bet that, like,

1046
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: we've got Sikos that watch this show and listen to

1047
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: this show. Yeah, you may not have seen Zeke Nauji

1048
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: play and he's getting thirty two million dollars, But yeah,

1049
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: I guess let's start with Avdia, just because he's probably

1050
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: the most well known of these players. Four years, fifty

1051
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: five million dollars kind of a lot. But he's not

1052
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: even twenty three years old yet. He will be quite soon.

1053
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 2: He's really good defensively, he's got good size, he hits

1054
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: the glass. He can play a couple of different positions.

1055
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: The offense is definitely the question. Not much of a

1056
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: three point shooter right now, just kind of puts his

1057
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: head down, tries to get to the rim. So he

1058
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: draws some free throws, which is good, decent passer as

1059
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: like the third ball handler on a team. But if

1060
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: he's going to be a real impact player, he's going

1061
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 2: to need to shoot closer to league average from three.

1062
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: I think he was like in the thirties, low thirties,

1063
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: thirty one. Yeah, at least he plays a lot though.

1064
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: That's good, And you know, there's a new Wizard's front office.

1065
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: This is a new era for the Wizards. At least

1066
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: they're showing some faith in him that he'll stick around

1067
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: at least for the onset of the rebuild.

1068
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: That's right.

1069
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: And again you see four years, fifty five million, that

1070
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: is a lot of money, Don't get me wrong. But

1071
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: not really in the NBA landscape when you like break

1072
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: it down per year. I saw Hollinger wondering, maybe this

1073
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 4: is the type of contract that's, you know, higher in

1074
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: the first year, then sort of goes down here two

1075
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: and three, and then maybe actually comes back up in

1076
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: your four. Sort of this horseshoe contract idea. There's a

1077
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 4: bunch of reasons why teams are trying to do that.

1078
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 4: I don't believe there's a team or player option on

1079
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: that one as well. And yeah, he is young. I

1080
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: forget how young he is. And at least he gives

1081
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: a damn about defense, so that's not bad. Any other

1082
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 4: thoughts on the other ones.

1083
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: I mean I got thoughts on all of them, all right.

1084
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: I means Zach Collins, what a reclamation project by the Spurs.

1085
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: I think this is a good get for them. He

1086
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: gives him toughness at center. It keeps the bumps and

1087
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: bruises down for Victor Wembinyamo, which I think is a

1088
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: huge part of it. Here lets him kind of roam

1089
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: around and make plays all over the court using his size.

1090
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: And Zach Collins I think is pretty decent when he's

1091
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: been healthy. He got hurt at the end of his

1092
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 2: tenure there with the Trailblazers, had to recover basically last

1093
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: season with the Spurs as well, or a couple of

1094
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: seasons back, and then last year he played a decent

1095
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: amount of games. I think he almost got to seventy

1096
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: games and it was pretty solid when he was played.

1097
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: Who knows if he becomes like a serious impact player

1098
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: for the Spurs. I think he's got a chance to

1099
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: pop a little bit if they add some playmakers at

1100
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: the perimeter positions. But for now, two years, it's got

1101
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: a lot of money for college that this is a cheap,

1102
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: cheap team, like the Spurs don't have a lot of

1103
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: big money contracts right now. I guess the Visel and

1104
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: Kelton Johnson extensions will be kicking in. But they've got

1105
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: money to play with. So if this will help keep

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00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: Victor wembin Yama healthy, it's totally worth it.

1107
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: And it's a two year deal too. You're right, Pops

1108
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: the round, you know, eighteen million or so if when

1109
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 4: we're looking at the average close to that. But yeah,

1110
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: this is not a four or anything like that, so

1111
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: that one that makes sense in that regards, And yeah,

1112
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 4: he looked okay when he was got back and the

1113
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 4: guy got back. I mean he had a couple of

1114
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 4: ankle injuries, yep, and he's back to being an NBA player.

1115
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 4: And then the final one, Nause.

1116
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: Zeke Nase. If he can shoot, he'll be a good

1117
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: This will be a really good signing for the Nuggets.

1118
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: He was forty percent from three his first couple of

1119
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: seasons and then under thirty percent last year, so they

1120
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: got to hope he's better than twenty six percent. If

1121
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: he rebounds, he'll be able to stay on the court.

1122
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: And there's some opportunity with the Nuggets with Jeff green Leavin,

1123
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: with Bruce Brown leaving. Basically, Denver has to retain their

1124
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: young guys right now because the starters are going to

1125
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: get more and more and more expensive as time goes on.

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00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: Let's hear your thoughts, guys on the contract extensions for

1127
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: all three of those guys, Avdia, Collins, Nause with the Wizard,

1128
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 4: Spurs and Nuggets respectively. Again last day, for a lot

1129
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: of those contract extensions, I guess a couple more could

1130
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: trickle in in theory at the very last minute, but

1131
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 4: we will see. We got to take one more break.

1132
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 4: But when we come back tweet in the night, don't

1133
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: go anywhere, people in the stream team saying this show

1134
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: has jumped the shark.

1135
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: That's a good joke.

1136
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 6: That's a great joke. That's a great joke. You guys.

1137
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: I love old people love it.

1138
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: It is NBA Jersey Day. I should not doubt for

1139
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 4: the podcast listeners, I'm rocking, you know, the throwback Raptors jersey,

1140
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: especially with Alex jan coming on to talk about the

1141
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 4: improbable first season of the raps. Our guy Trey Kirby's

1142
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 4: Got the Sixers. Ben Simmons, what was with this choice?

1143
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: Nike gifted us these jerseys probably when they took over

1144
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: the NBA contract. I never wore it. I was like,

1145
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna want to wear a Ben Simmons jersey.

1146
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: But I also knew if I held onto it for

1147
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: long enough, it would become a comedy jersey. And guess

1148
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: what skeets That day is today on the fourth annual

1149
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: NBA Jersey Day.

1150
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: Yes, it is good.

1151
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: It's a great jersey. It is I mean it's yeah,

1152
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: but now it's a funny one.

1153
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 4: And then the stream team really wanted to know about

1154
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: your jersey.

1155
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 3: JD.

1156
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: The digital camouflage Raptors, which is that a Yeah.

1157
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 6: I wore this downstairs and Rachel's like, what the hell?

1158
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 6: What is that Minecraft edition? Yeah, because it is kind

1159
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 6: of blockie if you go in, really but really ugly,

1160
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 6: very very It was the only one left in the

1161
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 6: we remember, they brought us out like a whole box

1162
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 6: of jerseys and Lee dove in head first and he's

1163
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 6: like grabbing all the cool stuff and it's like, all right,

1164
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 6: I guess I'm a Raptors guy. I guess I'll take

1165
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 6: the rosan.

1166
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

1167
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 6: Nothing wrong with the Rozen, but this this camo, I

1168
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 6: guess for Rememberance Day maybe out there.

1169
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe that was the idea, man. I mean

1170
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 4: it's the opposite of camouflage. You're not blending in anywhere.

1171
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

1172
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 6: You should see me in Minecraft, though you can't see

1173
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 6: anything stand in front of it. Never get that's exactly right.

1174
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: I actually, uh, when Alex was on, he was wearing

1175
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: I think a Raptors G League jersey, so I kind

1176
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: of actually felt likely. There's that picture of us getting

1177
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 2: ready to go to All Star in Toronto, six of us,

1178
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: five of us wearing Raptors jackets, and Lee wearing a

1179
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: bright white sixer, big sixer.

1180
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Here on and slash the starters. All right, let's get

1181
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: to tweet of the.

1182
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 5: Night threed over night Wow.

1183
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: Tweet of the night next to the night comes from

1184
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,959
Speaker 4: Shana Rubin over the weekend, as we had our last

1185
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 4: couple of preseason games, and uh, well we got this

1186
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 4: exchange here, a wmen Yama Chris Paul jersey exchange and

1187
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: this photo from SHANEA.

1188
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: Rubin.

1189
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: We we might need to enhance if possible, because look

1190
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 4: at Chris Paul on the tippy toes as he takes

1191
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 4: the jersey photo with wem Yama, which is so great,

1192
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 4: so relatable, especially any photo I've ever taken with Trey Kirby.

1193
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: And anyway, I thought it was a great catch there

1194
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: from Shana.

1195
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 2: Almost almost made him as tall as Victor Wemen. There's

1196
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: also that picture of Wemby from the game against the

1197
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: Warriors this weekend where he's blocking Wiggins's jump shot. That's crazy.

1198
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: Wiggins looks tiny to the point where I didn't even

1199
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: notice Chris Paul in the corner, and Everybody's like, look

1200
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 2: at it. Looks like Kevin harda.

1201
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, exactly, yeah, Wiggins what six' seven? Yeah blocking the.

1202
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 4: Shot it looks like his his fingertips must be how

1203
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 4: how high in the?

1204
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: Air like where are? They great?

1205
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: Question great? Question twelve? FEET i was.

1206
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 4: Gonna, SAY i thought about twelve, feet and then you're,

1207
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: Right Chris paul looks like a toddler.

1208
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: On the sidelines out.

1209
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: There any photo Wemen yama is incredible and the stuff

1210
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 4: he's doing his games is just as. Amazing BUT i

1211
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 4: gotta see all the tippy toe.

1212
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: THERE i gotta see him next To yao And, shack because,

1213
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 2: like that's a crazy, picture y'all standing next To shack

1214
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: and you're, like, What shack is? Tiny? Now SO i

1215
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: mean he'll be shorter than y'all, obviously and both of

1216
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 2: those guys they're quite bigger to. You probably fit Four

1217
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: wemby's in the into those two. Guys but uh, yeah

1218
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: we gotta. See we just gotta see how he stacks

1219
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: up against the other.

1220
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: Giants scenes, true we gotta line them all, up all. Right,

1221
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: well let's call.

1222
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 4: It thanks so much to our, Guest Alex, wong go

1223
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 4: get his new, Book. Prehistoric it comes out everywhere. Tomorrow

1224
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: you can pre order it, today of, course but you

1225
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 4: might as well just. Wait at this, point and get it.

1226
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: Tomorrow it's so so.

1227
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 4: Good and, again if you have A raptors fan in your,

1228
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: LIFE i would get this for them around the.

1229
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: Holidays it's the perfect. Gift it's so so.

1230
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 4: Good and he did such a great job, of you,

1231
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: know going over the entire creation of this. Team ACTUALLY

1232
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 4: i meant to bring it, up But i'll bring it

1233
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: up with, You. Okay of course the book is about The,

1234
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: raptors but he does slip in a part about The

1235
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 4: Vancouver grizzlies and the naming contests they.

1236
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: Had for their.

1237
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 4: Team because a lot Of raptors fans they know all about.

1238
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 4: All there was a bunch of other names in the

1239
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 4: mix for you, know and Then raptors wins. Out but

1240
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 4: some of the names for The Vancouver, grizzlies it was

1241
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 4: a province wide naming. Contest vancouver rain, okay, Sure Vancouver,

1242
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: Ravens Vancouver, Orcas, Oh Vancouver. DRAGONS i feel like dragons

1243
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: was on everybody shortlist at some. Point Vancouver, Storm Vancouver,

1244
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: Eagles Vancouver, Venom Vancouver, Vultures Vancouver, vipers and then the

1245
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 4: one THAT i guess they were thinking about going with

1246
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 4: The Vancouver. Vipers but then somebody was, like that's the

1247
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: name of A dodge. Car And General motors was involved

1248
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 4: in the. Team so they're, like, well we can't do.

1249
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: That wait What General motors was involved with the Future.

1250
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: Grizzlies the name of the team named their car Named. Dodge, yeah,

1251
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: yeah conflict, car right, Right.

1252
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: Vipers Vancouver. Vipers, anyway any favorites out of, THOSE i

1253
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: mean some of, those, Right BUT i think The storm is.

1254
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 2: Good, YEAH i like rain and Storm storm ultimately went

1255
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: to Work seattle.

1256
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: Franchise, yeah it.

1257
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: Would be very competitive with The Oklahoma City thunder and

1258
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay.

1259
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: Lightning oh, YEAH i mean, Sure battle Of. Weather we

1260
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: got The Naismith. Cup give us The Weather, cup.

1261
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 3: All.

1262
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: Right so, anyway it's another little favorite part of that.

1263
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: Book, okay one more sleep until REAL nba basketball is.

1264
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 4: Back we'll be here in The Classic factory tomorrow morning

1265
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 4: at ten Am.

1266
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: EASTERN i think we got to talk about some of these.

1267
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 4: Jerseys, yeah do some thumbs upper thumbs down on some

1268
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 4: of them at, least and whatever THE nba news and

1269
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 4: final predictions we want to get, IN i might fire

1270
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 4: up a, playback little pregame playback tomorrow night as we.

1271
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: Lead into THE tnt.

1272
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 4: Games i'm excited that we get The nuggets at seven.

1273
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: Thirty, yeah that sound.

1274
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 4: Weird we Get Lakers nuggets at seven thirty On ring,

1275
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 4: night but that's you, know early for The Denver.

1276
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: Nuggets's really as a whole a home. Game it's like a.

1277
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 4: Five to thirty start because the second Time warriors Sun so,

1278
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: YEAH i, know BUT i can't.

1279
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: Wait real.

1280
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 4: Basketball it's, back, guys and that means no dunks back

1281
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 4: in your Life monday Through. Friday so we'll see you tomorrow.

1282
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 4: Morning until, Then clipper, bros.

1283
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: You heard it here, first have a great, time turn.

1284
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: Up love you, guys, Awesome thanks for joining, us and

1285
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: remember tomorrow is the beginning of the seventy SEVENTH nba.

1286
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: Season but today's just the FOURTH Nba Jersey. Day gotta catch.

1287
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: Up brace the, day, people