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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Greatest show trend Uh my name is Jack. That over there,

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Speaker 1: well that's Miles and uh yeah, we were just talking

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Speaker 1: Greatest Showman because we were trying to figure out So

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Speaker 1: one of the first trending stories is the film version

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Speaker 1: of Wicked is coming, and it's coming in two doses.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be directed by the director of Crazy Rich

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Speaker 1: Asians and People. People are confused as to why they

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Speaker 1: have split it into two parts. It's a fucking one

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Speaker 1: year intermission. Jackness act like you've been to the theater given,

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Speaker 1: but we're also like, I was curious because it seems

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Speaker 1: like whatever Hollywood logic that got excited about like taking

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Speaker 1: Broadway musicals into movie theaters, like they've they've been getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of headwinds with Like I guess West Side

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Speaker 1: Story is now officially considered a flop. There was also

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Speaker 1: a pandemic on but it definitely was not doing well,

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Speaker 1: while Spider Man into the No Way Home Verse was

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Speaker 1: doing great. Um in the Heights, I think people were

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Speaker 1: disappointed in Cats People Masterpiece, but yeah, I did not

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Speaker 1: do great. You're Evan Hanson similar, so we're just you know,

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Speaker 1: Before we started recording, we were trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: what were like the hits that are giving them like

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Speaker 1: the um dollar signs in their eyeballs, and I think

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Speaker 1: we landed on Mama Mia and The Greatest Showmen, which

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Speaker 1: I think is the one that probably is the example

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Speaker 1: we say. People called, man, that movie fucking flopped, and

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Speaker 1: you check the fucking receipt because it's you're gonna be like, huh,

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Speaker 1: what the Greatest Showmen did? How how many these millions

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Speaker 1: of I did million globally? And it's like, I think

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Speaker 1: people think it flopped because when it first came out,

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Speaker 1: it just like did okay, and then but then it

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Speaker 1: like kept had that James Cameron style released where it

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Speaker 1: just like kept getting bigger and bigger, and was, you know,

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Speaker 1: three four months later, still in movie theaters when most

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Speaker 1: movies they are like, well, ten million dollars, that was

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Speaker 1: a failure and they're gone, yeah, I mean sing along.

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Speaker 1: That's when I knew. I was like, oh, I'm I know,

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Speaker 1: not of the fucking the fans of this ship. Because

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Speaker 1: when I started seeing things about like them selling out

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Speaker 1: sing along, like re premieres of the of the film,

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Speaker 1: You're like, okay, so now you have people who are

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Speaker 1: willing to cry for this in the theater. Um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: MoMA mia obviously, because that's I mean, I that that

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Speaker 1: was a huge um. But I think Mulan Rouge also

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Speaker 1: like for I remember when I was in high school

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Speaker 1: that sort of began this thing of like, hey, musicals, man,

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Speaker 1: they're cool because they're using something like modern pop songs.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like that then we got like Chicago,

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Speaker 1: which probably gave the studios like you might be able

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Speaker 1: to win an oscar, right, yeah, something like that. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I am reporting from a logging camp in

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Speaker 1: case you can hear the yeah chainsaws in the background, Miles,

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Speaker 1: I'm here at a logging camp in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the Redwood Force. I'm actually here to report just like

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Speaker 1: cheer them on. Yes, Jack, the tags are still on

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Speaker 1: your car, heart, vest and pants. Just take them off

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Speaker 1: so you blend in a little bit more. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that's I just thought it would add a nice bit

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Speaker 1: hey uh. Speaking of reven, Vice president Kamala Harris has

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Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID. That has nothing to do with Reving,

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Speaker 1: but um, the Revenant, Yeah, so far, no symptoms. She

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Speaker 1: is isolating. It's CC guidelines. It's wild to hear like

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Speaker 1: this morning. I remember on the news. I think I

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Speaker 1: it's terrible. The Vice president is like coming down the

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Speaker 1: nilists and like all the other journalists like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: things have been pretty laxed recently at the White House,

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Speaker 1: like you don't really need masks and stuff. They're like

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Speaker 1: testing after the fact, um, so yeah, not not too

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Speaker 1: much of a surprise. And then like then they started

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Speaker 1: doing this thing. It's like yeah, it's it's like we're

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Speaker 1: really learning now how to live with the virus because

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Speaker 1: of the things. I'm like, don't do this ship right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just fun. Now it's fun when somebody tests positive COVID. Oh,

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Speaker 1: like you're, first of all, y'all are talking from your

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Speaker 1: you regularly interact with people like the fucking president and so,

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Speaker 1: you know, to then say, yeah, it's like we' learning

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Speaker 1: to live with it. Harvard is trending. Actually it's just

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Speaker 1: the you can read between the lines and discover that

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Speaker 1: they're talking about Harvard. Their president created a UM investigation

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Speaker 1: to look at whether Harvard had benefited from slavery and

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Speaker 1: perpetrated racial inequality. Like I would have been happy to

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Speaker 1: take that money and just told them, yep, yeah you sure,

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Speaker 1: you sure did UM. But hey, you want me to

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Speaker 1: help you do some research? Oh man, it was real bad.

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Speaker 1: You know what I feel. You should feel so bad.

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Speaker 1: Actually take this under million and give it to somebody. Yeah. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: Harvard University is vowing to spend one million dollars to

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Speaker 1: research and atone for its extensive ties with slavery. The

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Speaker 1: the descendants of enslaved people who labored at the Ivy

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Speaker 1: League campus. So that sounds good so far. That that's

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Speaker 1: in the first paragraph of the WIPE report. The report

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Speaker 1: says the university should make a significant monetary commitment, and

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Speaker 1: it should invest in remedies of equal or greater breadth

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Speaker 1: than other universities. Hell, yeah, we are, we are with you,

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Speaker 1: but start getting a good shake you there remedies, But

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Speaker 1: the report stopped short of recommending direct financial reparations and

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Speaker 1: officials have no immediate plans for that kind of Uh

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Speaker 1: So that's like me being like a chronic cheater. And

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Speaker 1: then I'm telling my partner said, you know what, I'm sorry, man,

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Speaker 1: I need to spend about ten grand to research in

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Speaker 1: the Caribbean and just do some soul searching down there,

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Speaker 1: um and really figure this out for me, Like what

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Speaker 1: million dollars to look inward? Yeah, well, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out what that first part too, like directly a

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Speaker 1: Are they going to do that via just apologies? Like

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of therapy for these people to get

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Speaker 1: over their connection to those slavery I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the funk this is supposed to do. It sounds all

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Speaker 1: disingenuous proclamation of doing something about a problem without actually

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Speaker 1: as if many of our top leaders are educated in

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of money saying something without really saying it.

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Speaker 1: Ye oh huh. But wait, but we're all in, were

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Speaker 1: a ton in you know what I mean? All right,

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Speaker 1: And we're back. It was announced that Bad Bunny is

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Speaker 1: going to be the star of upcoming Spider Man spin

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Speaker 1: elm Werto and is slated to to be released on January.

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Speaker 1: Bad Bunnies acting career is like blowing up Bam, Bad

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Speaker 1: Bunnies in general out here, M what can this? What

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Speaker 1: was this man not doing? Uh? But I think this

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Speaker 1: I think even just yeah, anecdotally just observing the movie

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Speaker 1: I'm very I'm sure this will be good. I'm curious

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Speaker 1: place where oh, okay, is this is this for the people?

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Speaker 1: Hashtag Lesbian Visibility Day is trending. Lesbian Visibility Days recognized

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Speaker 1: You know, he sees you, and there's uh, there's a

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Speaker 1: NBA playoffs. I don't know. Everything feels very toxic right

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Speaker 1: now with like the number one trending things are Ben

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Speaker 1: it feel more toxic this year? I mean you're talking

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Speaker 1: more sensitive to the humanity of athletes, right. I think

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years has really done a lot

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Speaker 1: now Malskka or Ben Simmons, like and also just me

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Speaker 1: I'm like I've half the time always asking you. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: I feel like Ben Simmons just really needs some time

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Speaker 1: out of here, and you're like and I get the argument, sure,

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Speaker 1: like for how hard people's lives are, you're being paid

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars to be an athlete with the fuck.

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Speaker 1: But but underneath all of that is still a person

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Speaker 1: he's a fucking fraud. And it's like a highly visible

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Speaker 1: Fuck that right, right? And if it does just feel

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Speaker 1: And it happens like in every league, whether it's people

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Speaker 1: I just started watching Severance, by the way, last night.

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Speaker 1: That ship is so good. Yeah, but in a way

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Speaker 1: like whether it's the toy like trying to disconnect yourself

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Speaker 1: those are some of the things that are trending on

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Speaker 1: this Tuesday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the whole

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Speaker 1: last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to

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Speaker 1: each other, be kind to yourself, get the vaccine, don't

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Speaker 1: do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to

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Speaker 1: you all tomorrow. By Spice