WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Who’s Better Than Dak?

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for then,

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Monday, July twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, season fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number fifteen, and we are live here from Oxnard, California,

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<v Speaker 1>for another edition of The Break. Got Nick, Dave and

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<v Speaker 1>Amber along with me. We're talking some Cowboys football with

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<v Speaker 1>you guys for the next hour. Man, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to get into talking about. We'll talking about quarterbacks today.

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<v Speaker 1>I think yesterday we've spent quite a bit of time

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the running back situation in Zeke Elliott. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and I just think we spend a little time on

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<v Speaker 1>this quarterback. Lots of things to talk about there. How's

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<v Speaker 1>everybody feeling this morning? I feel great, feel comfortable. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sixty three degrees here. Hey, it's better than Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great for the players Cowboys. All right, Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>jump right in. Nick. Hey, actually just like we did yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start. We're gonna start with a segment of

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<v Speaker 1>blanket coverage. That's what I call this segment. What I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do is I'll have some statements for you. We got

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<v Speaker 1>three states, we got three statements, and they're all gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a blank that you guys will fill in. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with the first statement. Kellen Moore is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time Now this one's a little long, so follow me here.

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore is the first time offensive coordinator with a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of weapons. John Kitton is the first year QB

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<v Speaker 1>coach task with taking back to the next level. The

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<v Speaker 1>coach who has the harder job is blank, Dave Kellen Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mean John kittnas he said it more times

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<v Speaker 1>than I can count at this point. Like Dak is,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. Dak is the most driven player he's ever

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<v Speaker 1>been around. His desire to be great is all consuming

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<v Speaker 1>and refreshing, and he wants to be coached and pushed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, it's you know, it's hard. I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't sound that challenging. Whereas Kellen Moore's got

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<v Speaker 1>to do something with an offense that finished twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>second in the League last year ever, Kellen, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at it, Kinna essentially has to coach

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<v Speaker 1>one main guy. Yes, he has to coach whoever the

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<v Speaker 1>backtub is gonna be. But that's important too, very very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't lose that, don't lose very important. Yes, But in essence,

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<v Speaker 1>you're focusing on one to three guys versus Kellen Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>who's having to take control of a whole offense and

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with different components and making sure that he's creating

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<v Speaker 1>something different that we haven't seen before. Not to which

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Nick needs to answer the question too. But

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Moore's gotta make he's got to make this thing go.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of talent on that offense, which

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<v Speaker 1>means there's a lot of people who have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>about the way it should be, whether that's dad and

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<v Speaker 1>when someone else's job is on your shoulder. But he

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<v Speaker 1>also is dealing with a lot of guys, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in my perspective, aren't necessarily give me the ball kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guys. No, they all want they all want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part, don't get me wrong, But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you've got guys that are give me the ball, No,

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<v Speaker 1>like you make not so much. Sometimes you have that

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<v Speaker 1>much talent, Give me the ball. But that didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>This would have worked, which a lot of times this

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<v Speaker 1>would have worked. Means it would have worked if you'd

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to the ball. But Nick, it's Kellen Moore because

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<v Speaker 1>last year the offense struggled, and what happened the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator got fired, or what happened the quarterback coach got

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<v Speaker 1>a promotion, so Kellen Moore moved into a spot. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it is. It's obviously the pressure is on Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>Moore now is the offensive coordinator. If they don't do well,

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<v Speaker 1>he may not be the guy. But John Kittenham, for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, as the quarterback coach, just like Kellen did,

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<v Speaker 1>got a promo motion out of it. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry and Jason and they look at it, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's obviously a lot more pressure for the offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think last year was a good example of that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Statement Number two, Shaun Lee reportedly asked to

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<v Speaker 1>be a special teams player entering his tenth season. Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Lee is blank. I'm not going to agree with that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Sean Lee asked to be a special

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<v Speaker 1>teams player. I think Sean I think Sean Lee has

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<v Speaker 1>said I'll do what it takes, whatever is needed of Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get out there. I think that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could probably say the same thing about

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<v Speaker 1>moving to Sam linebacker too. Okay, but let's okay, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say Sean Lee has agreed and he's willing to be

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<v Speaker 1>a special teams player in his tenth season. Shan Lee

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<v Speaker 1>is blank nick, all in, all in for this football team.

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<v Speaker 1>He whatever it takes. Sean Lee is there. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that there was a lot of talk about, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he lives in California. He wanted to go go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Dallas just so he could take the charter, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said to us yesterday, I want to get on

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<v Speaker 1>these charters as long as I can those charters. This

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<v Speaker 1>is when the football team is together and going up there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's all in. He knows Layton and m Jalen are

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<v Speaker 1>the two best linebackers on the team. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>have a role, and he understand it. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it's all in, Dave. I just suck up to Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett and say driven les driven, which that can mean

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of I mean, he's he's been driven to

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<v Speaker 1>be great at football since he was, like, what at

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen years old? But I think, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>i'll use a Brian broadest term too, like he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>chipping in on seventeen or eighteen, like his his career

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<v Speaker 1>is much closer to the end than the beginning, and

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't surprise me if this is the final year of

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<v Speaker 1>his career or you know, it's close. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>he knows this is a really talented team and rather

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<v Speaker 1>than worry about his ego, he's gonna he's driven to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever he can to help them. I really admire it.

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<v Speaker 1>Shan Lee is blank Amber. He's awesome. I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Slee. He's passionate, he's smart, he is driven,

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<v Speaker 1>he's focused, he loves this game. He is a great

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<v Speaker 1>teammate and like every both of them have said, he

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<v Speaker 1>would do anything for this team. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not selfish and still does it with good heart.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't see any animosity. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's the right words, but he sounds right.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have any hate or envy towards anybody. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just a great teammate, and I think that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys needed, especially at this time. And he's he's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on statement number three. The Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>to this point have had all their practices in shorts

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<v Speaker 1>and T shirts. Today they put on the pads when

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<v Speaker 1>the Pats come on. I'm most excited to see Blank

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<v Speaker 1>Amber fight fight. I already sucked up to Garrett you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it too from last year. No, I am excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to finally see some contact and be able

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<v Speaker 1>to see, for example, players like Tacco, what is he

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? There are some guys I come in here

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, they look physically, they look good, they have

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<v Speaker 1>you athletusis and but once that contact comes in in

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<v Speaker 1>action and you get to do it and get off

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage, what are you gonna do? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you able to move around? Are you able to take

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Tyrn Smith? Are you able to take other

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<v Speaker 1>guys out? You know? So, I'm excited to see them

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<v Speaker 1>full go Dave action. Yeah. I don't want to single

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<v Speaker 1>one specific thing out because there's so much to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean these, you know, the OTA practices are

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<v Speaker 1>I mean boring, for lack of a better word. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot going on, especially out here. At least

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<v Speaker 1>in the spring. They were going against each other, no

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<v Speaker 1>offense versus defense whatsoever. The last two days. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to change today, whether it's one on ones, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>actual offense versus defense, We're just gonna see action in

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<v Speaker 1>real football. And it's great. Yeah, I'll just be specific

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<v Speaker 1>to what they're saying. I mean, one on one drills,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the lineman versus the live versus the D line.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the guys like that, and that's where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you noticed Antoine Woods from a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where he started to make, you know, some noise.

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<v Speaker 1>And so who's this year's guy going to be? So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's very interesting you said that. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>and I were talking about this yesterday talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive versus defensive line. This may be the deepest offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line that we've had around here in a while. We

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the fact that if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>this second team offensive line, they may be as good

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<v Speaker 1>as some first team units around the NFL. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you consider that and you consider that up

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<v Speaker 1>against the talent that this team has on the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>line as well. I think there's some really really unique

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities to see some really good football there and see

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<v Speaker 1>some fun competition here over the next couple of days. Um, so,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's go and jump into this conversation on the quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the first thing I want to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get into is a lot of talk that was happening

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<v Speaker 1>during the offseason, and you guys watched all the OTAs

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<v Speaker 1>in mini miniicamp practices. There was a ton of talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how, you know, Dak's been working with Kitna, He's

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<v Speaker 1>improved his footwork work, his accuracy is better. I'll ask

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, after watching that, was there anything that you

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<v Speaker 1>saw that that gave credence to those kinds of statements

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<v Speaker 1>that his accuracy has improved, his footwork has improved. What

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen just in OTAs in mini camps and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the first two days practice mid level throws eighteen yards?

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<v Speaker 1>Those throws right there are the ones that you see

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<v Speaker 1>these guys open a lot. I think that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>credit to also Kellen Moore. I feel like these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are getting schemed open more. But you know, he can

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<v Speaker 1>throw the ball deep. He can obviously throw it short

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<v Speaker 1>underneath and make the right reads and all that, but

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<v Speaker 1>those eighteen yard throws, those are the ones that are

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest ones. And to make a really good quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to throw it over the linebacker and under

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<v Speaker 1>the safety as the guys moving. And I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen We'll see what happens when them when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pads come on. But I think those are the passes

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been impressed with. Yeah, just looked, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>his anticipation and his placement looked phenomenal. In the spring,

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<v Speaker 1>it really stood out to me with Randall Cobb. That's

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<v Speaker 1>I just have sky high hopes for what they can be.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, intermediate throws leading the receiver, putting it on

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<v Speaker 1>him instead of behind him or too far out in

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<v Speaker 1>front of little stuff like that. I haven't really you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people are arguing about some of his throws

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<v Speaker 1>out here so far these first two days, and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't care less. It's all on air. It's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to tell how accurate they are when nobody's contesting it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I haven't seen anything to really give me an

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<v Speaker 1>impression to this point out here. But in OTAs he

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<v Speaker 1>really he looked different in a good way. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he did. That's good old now, you know well, And

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<v Speaker 1>I like when he's starting to step out of the

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<v Speaker 1>comfort zone that I feel that the Cowboys had built

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<v Speaker 1>around him and for him of those short yardish throws

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to Cole Beasley, Jason Witten when he was

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<v Speaker 1>here and now that he's back, Yeah, that's great. But

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<v Speaker 1>being able to see him make those throws down the

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<v Speaker 1>field now at this point of the what it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the season, but the off season. I guess at this

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<v Speaker 1>point of the year, it's good, yes, training camp, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to see and the fact that he is

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<v Speaker 1>being able to make those throw it's very motivational for

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<v Speaker 1>what is to come this year. Yeah, it's interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I want to see it here now. Yeah. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting. And I think at this point what

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<v Speaker 1>we really are wanting to see is does he take

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<v Speaker 1>that next step into being one of the elite quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. He's done some really good things. I

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<v Speaker 1>was telling you, Dave before we went on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back last night and I was doing some

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<v Speaker 1>research on just some historically how you would how would

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<v Speaker 1>you would characterize what Dak has done in the first

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<v Speaker 1>three years of his career, and check out some of

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<v Speaker 1>these numbers. Really remarkable stuff when you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the first thing said out to me is he

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<v Speaker 1>is only one of eight players in the NFL has

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<v Speaker 1>started all games. So the first three years as a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback's again, we're talking about one hundred years NFL this

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<v Speaker 1>year is celebrating a hundred years of existence, and in

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred years, he is one of eight players that's

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<v Speaker 1>been able to do that. Here are the interesting numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>He is second all time in completion percentage in the

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<v Speaker 1>first three years of his career at sixty six point

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<v Speaker 1>one percent. He is fifth in wins with thirty two.

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<v Speaker 1>He is six in quarterback rating with ninety six. And

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<v Speaker 1>here was the stat that really jumped off to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He is number one all time one hundred years first

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<v Speaker 1>three years of a quarterback's career in game winning drives

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<v Speaker 1>with fourteen. This guy's had a pretty phenomenal first three

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<v Speaker 1>years as a quarterback in the NFL. So here's what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do with you guys. We're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>a little game. It's gonna be I'm gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>a name I'm gonna go down this list of last

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<v Speaker 1>season the quarterbacks in the NFL in order of passing yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I want you guys to tell me would

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<v Speaker 1>you rather would you rather have Dak or this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>All right on, Dak for what to this year? Or

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<v Speaker 1>as my quarterbacks because I have a new franchise. No

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<v Speaker 1>that Derek acts like that's not fair, but it totally is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fair. I just it's just I didn't think that

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<v Speaker 1>far ahead. Tell you what, let's how would you prefer

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<v Speaker 1>to do this year? This year? Just for this year? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just for this year, not for the future, just for

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<v Speaker 1>this year. All right, that's fine. I'm going with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going with that. So here's what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go through the list. You tell me would

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<v Speaker 1>you rather have that guy? That guy. I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to keep score here, and what I'm looking for is

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<v Speaker 1>the total. So if we can get two out of three,

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll count that person. I want to see how

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<v Speaker 1>many quarterbacks in the NFL you guys would rather have

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<v Speaker 1>instead of Dack? Okay, got it, Ben Roethlisberger, Dak. That's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, first thought, I don't like this scheme, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go probably been all right, which that's tough because I

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<v Speaker 1>assume Ben's gonna miss like anywhere between two and four games,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, and you'd rather have been I think, So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Amber this year, I think Dak. I'm gonna go with that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Ben is out. Patrick Mahomes my homes all right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one. Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan. M I would say

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<v Speaker 1>with Dak, you stay with Dack Nick. I'm sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>I need the judge's ruling on this. Is this for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys? Is Matt Ryan on the Cowboys or Dak

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<v Speaker 1>on the game? Is that what we're doing? Who would

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<v Speaker 1>you rather have on the cowbooks for this year? Matt Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ryan. Okay, So Matt Rown makes two. Jared Golf,

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<v Speaker 1>Dack Dack I'm not a I'm not a believer in

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<v Speaker 1>golf yet. Andrew Luck Luck Look yeah, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's three. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, that's four. Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady, that's five. H Philip Rivers Rivers for one year. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not building the franchise this year? Yeah yeah, uh

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<v Speaker 1>Rivers Rivers Okay, I mean yeah, all right, So Rivers

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<v Speaker 1>that's six Eli Manning. Dak seriously, come on, Kirk Cousins

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<v Speaker 1>back all right, Deshaun Watson Dak Dack all right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to all y'all said that, okay, Um, Derek Carr

0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Dak Dak all right, Drew Brees breeze freeze all right,

0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Caseina Dak Dak all right. I mean and now and

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<v Speaker 1>now and now and now you get to the point

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<v Speaker 1>of that's where Daki is right now, yeah, in passing

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<v Speaker 1>guards right then. Matthew Stafford, Oh, that's tough. Like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Stafford is just he's so interesting because like he's

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<v Speaker 1>everything you could want in a quarterback, except like he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen well, he doesn't have the one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Dak has, which is like it, you know, the game

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<v Speaker 1>winning the chair, Matthew Stafford, and once he does, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still at zero playoff wins within with yeah, no and

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<v Speaker 1>what and you know, I get that that's hard, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's very good. Like he's he's super talented. I

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<v Speaker 1>think recently somebody was quoted in the story of being

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<v Speaker 1>like he's the most talented quarter just if you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about talent, he's the best one ever. Just in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of like god given ability, but he has yet to

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<v Speaker 1>dis like it, like and he's had a Megatron. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't say that he hasn't had Guys, He's had some

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<v Speaker 1>great things. I'll take like. There's no doubt he's more

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<v Speaker 1>talented than Dak. But I think i'll take my chances

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<v Speaker 1>with that Dack. You in Amber, can you switch them

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<v Speaker 1>in now? Like, okay, at this time of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>let him all right? Uh so he's out Baker Mayfield.

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<v Speaker 1>I really love Baker. I think he's going places, but

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta see more. I gotta see more than twelve

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<v Speaker 1>he starts. Yeah, Russell Wilson, Russ, I love Russ. All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Cam Newton, dam Cam Newton on this Cam Newton

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<v Speaker 1>on this team could do some damnah. Yeah, I'll take Cam.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll take Cama going to camp. Okay, that's nine. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take all right, Mitchell Trubisky Dak all right, Um, Carson

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<v Speaker 1>Wentz Dak Dak my game in sixteen games out of

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<v Speaker 1>wins this year. Okay, don't want this based on his

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<v Speaker 1>history whatever, whatever you think of his history. That's really tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it quick, but it's tough. It is tough.

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<v Speaker 1>But that may be one of the toughest ones that's

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<v Speaker 1>in this whole thing. I mean, if they're both healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't kill me. Wentz is probably a better

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<v Speaker 1>pure quarterback. But Dak has never missed a game. Winz

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<v Speaker 1>has had a problem with that his whole career, and

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<v Speaker 1>we had a problem with him. I'll take that because

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm getting sixteen games, all right? Yeah? Still, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so he's out, Um, Jamis Winston back, Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Donald back, Andy Dalton back, Marks Mariota back. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you can getting into the Yeah. The only other

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's down here you would even want to throw

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<v Speaker 1>in there would be Lamar Jackson. He's a starter, no back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we got nine guys. That's probably where

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<v Speaker 1>you would say that, so he would had him ten? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Where? Is that? Where? And this is where

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<v Speaker 1>this was all leading? Is that what you would think

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<v Speaker 1>he ends up? If you were to say here's how

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dak ranks in the NFL, would you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's right there around ten? In to is a top

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<v Speaker 1>ten quarterback in the NFL, depending on how much the

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<v Speaker 1>person you're polling likes the Cowboys. Yeah, he's somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>ninth and I'll even say sixteenth. Like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out there that's, like I saw yesterday, somebody was like,

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<v Speaker 1>dak is Andy Dalton. That's just who he is. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the stats say is And Okay, so you might

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<v Speaker 1>even just drop him down as far as like fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>or sixteen, but he's somewhere in that range between second

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<v Speaker 1>tier in the middle of the past. Yeah, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>who you ask. There's a lot of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a national that would say, you know, Roethlisberger is better.

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<v Speaker 1>He's won super Bowls obviously, and then they would go

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<v Speaker 1>wins and and maybe Stafford and some others. But are

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<v Speaker 1>people that are listening right now are probably like, how

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<v Speaker 1>could you pick him over Matt Ryan or something? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? They would probably have him seven,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, six or seven. So it's a fun game.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a good game. All right, let's go and

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<v Speaker 1>take our first break. When we come back, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about I want to narrow that down a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more and talk about two guys that we've

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<v Speaker 1>compared him to on this show. Some of our other

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<v Speaker 1>conversations Russell Wilson, Tom Brady and their first three years

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<v Speaker 1>and where Dak ranks there. We'll talk about that when

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to talk back get back into this

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback conversation. We talked about where Dak kind of ranks

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<v Speaker 1>historically around the NFL, really great numbers. He compares very

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<v Speaker 1>well over one hundred years of quarterbacks in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say, and I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take credit away from Dak, but with the way the

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<v Speaker 1>game is now, absolutely comparing rating and completion percentage to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that played before like two thousand and five, is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care, Like, yeah, of course he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>better completion percentage than y a tittle like the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>safeties used to literally murder people in the secondary back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So still very impressive, but the stats are so skewed.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he when he retired, he had the all

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<v Speaker 1>time leading quarterback rating in the history of the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>was like eighty three eighty three point two. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>now if you look at the all time leaders, they're

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<v Speaker 1>all at current players. You know, it's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>the game it is and that but that also wins something.

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<v Speaker 1>The wins in the first three year and saying that

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<v Speaker 1>that's impressive, but that also speaks to something. It speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact that even with those guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>been playing since two thousand and five, that's the number

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go with. That's the year You're gonna go with,

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.120
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of quarterbacks in NFL since two

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand and five. And for him to be ranked where

0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 1>he is in all these stats, in all these different categories,

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I think says something. You know, and I don't know

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.040
<v Speaker 1>where where he ranks as far like, what were the

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>other guys in there from the victories? Did you say

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson or uh no, Actually I was going to

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>get into that. Uh, those guys actually were lower. Russell

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Wilson and Tom Brady actually were lower as far as

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>number of wins than what he was in the first

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:19.120
<v Speaker 1>three years, probably layoffs with his difference. Okay, right, playoffs

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.639
<v Speaker 1>was you know. But the thing about about Dak is,

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you know he comes in on a team that went

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<v Speaker 1>won four games the year before, you know, so it's

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 1>not like it was, you know, a Roethlisberger situation or

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that just kind of jumps into a good team that's

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 1>already there. I Mean, this team had to had to

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, move its way back up. So um, you know,

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 1>it's been impressive. These first three years have definitely been

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>impressive for him to go and win games, and especially

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.640
<v Speaker 1>like you said, game winning drives that have to come

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.440
<v Speaker 1>back and huge fourteen of them in his first three

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>years and eight I believe it was a full season

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 1>where eight fourth quarter comebacks. I believe eight think so

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it was eight. Yeah, fourth quarter to comeback

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 1>is eight. He's tenth in the league. He's tenth in

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>league history in that stat. I can hear the people

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.159
<v Speaker 1>in my mentions right now saying, well, if he played

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>better at the beginning of games, they wouldn't need to

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>do that at the end. And I'm just like, you

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>must not watch the NFL, like you must have no

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>idea what this sport, what this league is all about,

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 1>because it's a freaking it's a field goal league, like

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 1>one play between a win and a loss. League was

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>captain cumback. No one says that about him now, Seriously,

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that championship, like you know, we we just

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 1>sat there and we I think we all pretty much

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>agreed that there's anywhere between six and nine quarterbacks that

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>we would take over Dak right now. But he is.

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>He is clutch. He has the it factor that we

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>talk so much about. I don't care if you get

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 1>tired of it, because I really do think it means something.

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:51.439
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't make too many mistakes, like to see him

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>clean up the fumbles from last year a little bit,

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't make mistakes. His feet are an asset

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>that need to be used more. And eighteen touchdowns on

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the grounds for itself, Like, there's so much to like

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>about where he is, and he is turning twenty six

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>today and that's great, and you want to talk about

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>so much should be happy about where he is. I

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>think you have to look no farther than, in my opinion,

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the two guys that are most comparable to him from

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the standpoint of the start to their careers, and that

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>would be Russell Wilson and Tom Brady. The reason why

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I say that is because at the start of their

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>careers they would in very similar situations to Dak Prescott.

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>They had teams that had really good defenses, really good

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>or great defenses. They had really good or great running games,

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and so he was just the They were just the

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 1>parts that had to not mess it up. Like just

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you have a few throws you gotta make every game,

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.439
<v Speaker 1>but for the most part, relying your running game, it's

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>okay to punt, rely on your defense to get the

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>ball back to you. Don't screw it. Up, make a

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>player two here and there, and your team's going to

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>be successful. And if you look at if you compare

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the first three years of all three of these guys,

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>check this out. Daki has a better completion percentage. He

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>has twenty more passing yards per game than the next

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:04.160
<v Speaker 1>closest guy. UM. He's got more game, more touchdowns per

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>game than than than than either of the three. I'm

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>sorry that actually they're about the same one point four

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 1>one point five um. And then he has fewer interceptions

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>than both those guys. When you start thinking about it

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 1>from that standpoint through the first three years, it sets

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 1>up really nicely for him to take that leap. In

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the fourth year, which is when Russell kind of started,

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you started seeing him take that leap. For Tom it

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>really kind of happened more in the fifth year. But

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you start seeing an opportunity now for Dak to take

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.199
<v Speaker 1>that next step and see if he can become with

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>those guys have become, because he certainly has had to

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>start better start than those three. Get those two guys did,

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>and all three of those guys, if I'm not mistaken,

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll have something else income and they all are replacing

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>good quarterbacks tier two quarterbacks in NFL history. I think

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you would say as Drew Bledsoe, Um, Tony, Romo, and

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe even Matt Hasselbeck if if that's he wasn't that direct.

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>He didn't even replace. They didn't know what they they

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>had to varg got Matt Flynn, right, They didn't know

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>what they were doing at quarter back when he showed up,

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:02.719
<v Speaker 1>paid him a significant amount of money. But they gave

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 1>when they gave Matt Flynn twenty million dollars. Yeah, before

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>a comparison standpoint, you know, that was like the last

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>great quarter or good quarterback that they had. Same with Romo.

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're you're replacing a good player, not at all,

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, not a Hall of Famer, but a good player.

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Blood say it's not a Hall of Famer? Is he

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be. I don't think he's just a

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>good player. Yeah. So, but the standards were pretty high

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>for those guys coming in, and they've done then they've exceeded.

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you would say Dak has exceeded what

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Romo has done yet, but he's getting there. And none

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>of them were first round picks. That's the other the

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>unique thing about them they were all guys that kind

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>of were he took a little flyer on him. You

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>put them on a team that had good things around them,

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>good running game, good offensive line, good defense, and you

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>just let him kind of develop into the position, didn't

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>give them too much too soon, and let him really develop.

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it was you, Dave. They were saying that

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>in the tenth the other day, like that's a lost

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>start in today's NFL, putting those putting quarterbacks in those

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of situations where they really have time to develop.

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it ever was an art like

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>this is such a this is such a win now,

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>don't make mistakes League. The conversation we had in the

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>tenth the other day is, and I know it wouldn't

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>be everybody, but how many lesser talented quarterbacks would have

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>a chance to shine if they got the opportunity that

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.919
<v Speaker 1>a Dack or a Russell Wilson got, where you know,

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>the starter goes down or the backup goes down, and

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you're actually getting snaps. Because we'll

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>see it over the next month, Cooper Rush and Mike

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>White are gonna get snaps because they need it, because

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>they got to figure out what to do with that.

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>But typically your third quarterback gets like four reps in

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a period, and if you're the fourth quarterback, forget about it.

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Like the kid they just sign. How many meaningful reps

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is he gonna get in the next month, like maybe

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a dozen. So there's just not time to develop these guys.

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And you're so worried about making sure you're winning games.

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Why we can't practice you. We gotta get these reps.

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>And now it's Dack. We gotta get these reps for

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Dack if we're gonna win the super Bowl. So I

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>would just love to see and it'll never happen, but

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see how many Day three quarterbacks

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>could develop into worthwhile starters if they got that time

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and attention to develop. It's interesting. And the interesting thing

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>though there is if you're going to do that, that

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>means the team will have to put the right resources

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>in place to have a running game, to have a

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>defense that can allow that quarterback to develop. And that's

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a hard thing to do for a lot of teams too,

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>because you have to kind of build that. You have

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to build that the right way and then get to

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the point where you plug in the quarterback and let

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>him kind of be just the guy that keeps everything

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>on the rails right. Yesterday, John Kitten had a quote

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that I thought was really interesting. I wanted to read

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>it for you guys and get some feedback on it.

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>He said, the thing that I keep talking to them

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about the quarterbacks about, is forget the idea

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>of I'm trying to complete the ball. Just cut it loose,

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>rip it, rip the throw. If you're good enough, or

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be here, make your best throw, and the

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>completions will handle themselves. It sounds to me like what

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>he's really trying to get them to do is be

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>more confident, trust to what they're seeing, and just go

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>for it. How much do you think that that helps

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>all of these quarterbacks because I don't know that. I

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know that I think that of Dak, that he's

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's too tentative. But I do think we've

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>had some of those kind of criticisms of the backup

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.239
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks that they're a little too tentative, a little too

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>afraid to kind of just let it go. You think

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>in stealing that kind of confidence in them today, Hey,

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>if you make a mistake, make the mistake all in

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>rather than being too tentative. Any saw that from Dak

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>last year, though, I feel that last year he took

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>somewhat of a step back where he got a little

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>more hesitant and just didn't at least to me, he

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>just didn't feel or seemed as confident to move around

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and throw the ball. It just it was taking a

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>little too long. And I think that's also part of

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>where all those fumbles came from, and just part of it.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I like hearing what Kinna said, I think this is

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the perfect time of the year for him to do that,

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to feel, make those mistakes, make them here, let it out.

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Rip I love that. Rip it, rip it, rip it.

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Let it out and you'll feel better, you know. I

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>took a little different approach on him holding the ball

0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>a little longer last year for me, and maybe I

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>was looking at it the wrong way, but I was

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>thinking that was more function of him waiting for things

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to happen down feel and not just getting rid of

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball, and I think both can cause you to

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>hold onto the ball too long. I thought of that

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>more than him being hesitant. It may not be the case.

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I may have just given him the benefit of the doubt.

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>But that's what I kind of put it on. What

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>did you guys think, I mean for sure, but I

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>definitely I agree with age like there I feel like

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>in Dak's mind, he's like, part of what makes me

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>valuable is I'm not going to lose the ball and

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>so if it's not an obvious throw or not, you know,

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>if it's not a high percentage maybe not a high

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>percentage completion. But thinking about the Beasley throw, the you know,

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the famous the hail Mary, Like that's either going to

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>be a touchdown or an incompletion. You know, like, that's

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>no problem. It's the it's the well. If I don't

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>put this exactly where it needs to be, something really

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>bad could happen. I feel like at times maybe there

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>was hesitancy. Didn't trust his arm, didn't trust his arm,

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't trust his protection, didn't trust his accuracy, whatever it is.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Whereas I think you do need to have that confidence.

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's a tough line to ride. And to be fair,

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:06.479
<v Speaker 1>I'll shout out people on Twitter, great quote by kitten Up.

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>It's fair to point out he threw one hundred and

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>sixty nine touchdowns on one hundred and sixty five interceptions

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in his career, right, so you've got you gotta find

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that balance isn't always good, No, I mean here it

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>is though, And actually it makes me think to last year.

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, there were reports coming out of Kansas City

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>like Mahomes is throwing four and five picks of practice.

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, is he terrible? Turns out not so much.

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>But this is the time to let it. You know.

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.479
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather you rip it and see what you can

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>do and develop some of those skills as opposed to well,

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna check down because it'll look good tonight

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in the film room when I were watching it, you know,

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and and the all time leader and interceptions, I believe

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>it is bred farve. I mean, like, you know, you

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of you have to to play that

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>way sometimes. But you know, when I think back to

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>like Romo when twenty and ten eleven, you know, if

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>he if he just let it rip every time he

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:55.479
<v Speaker 1>was throwing the ball to Dez Bryan, I mean, who

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>who knew where the ball was going to be and

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<v Speaker 1>who was going to intercept it? You know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to also trust not just your arm, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>trust where the guys are and where they're going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you have to make sure that everybody

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>is on is in sync with the offense and who

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you're throwing too. And I think Matt Ryan can can

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<v Speaker 1>let it rip when he knows hu Leo Jones is

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>route there, running a route or whatever, just because where

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>they are. That's why, you know, going back to why

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>why Cooper, you know, why are you here? Why aren't

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you doing what? Because he knows he needs this time

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>right here in this offseason to get to that point

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>with um you know, with Dak and Gallop and those

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>guys as well. I think now he has all those

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>all the right elements for him to get to that

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>level where he needs to be because last year you

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>had all the confusion of what are you doing in

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the offense, all the receivers coming in and out? You know,

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't completely clear. It started becoming clear once I'm

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>already guy here. But I think this time of the year,

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>we know who those receivers are gonna be and who's

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be there for him. So the connection between them

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>is being built as of right now, and it's gonna

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>show once the season starts. I like that point. I

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>do too. All right, let's take our final break. We're

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the break, Welcome back. It is the final

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.759
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<v Speaker 1>football here at Cheney Camp Data Cowboys put on the

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<v Speaker 1>Pad's day three right now, Abergarcia is going to lead

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>us through a game or no, All right, let's get

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>it started. This is uh, this question is are kind

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>of all over the map, So thank you to those

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>who sent them in. Let's get started. Anthony Brown is

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a better slot corner than Jordan Lewis. See or no,

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 1>m M. I don't think so, I'm gonna say no. See,

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. See Anthony Brown has played more snaps

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>in the slot than Jordan Lewis. He's he's a little

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>more battle tested. See I say no. I say I

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>think because I want it. Yeah, I think I think

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>he's got more talent um than Anthony Brown. He probably

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 1>has a little bit more quickness. Maybe not speed, but quickness.

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna go with I also think my personal

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>belief is I think that if given the opportunity, I

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>think he may be a will get a few more

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>turnovers than Anthony Brown does. I think Anthony Brown's okay

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.240
<v Speaker 1>slot corner. I think Jordan might be able to because

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of his quickness. I think he might actually and I

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's really gotten that opportunity, but I think

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>he might be able to get a little a few

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>more turn without trying to derail your game real quick.

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I just Anthony Brown is interesting to me because like

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>he might be the most unappreciated player on this team.

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>He's a three he's a three year starter. He's definitely.

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>He's not a pro bowler. He's made his share of mistakes.

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>He's he's gotten beat as all cornerbacks do. But three

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>year starter, pretty good player. He's made some big plays

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>and like, no, just nobody, everybody wants to give his

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 1>job away or whatever. Like he's I'm interesting. I mean,

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested to see he's in a contract year. Is

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.879
<v Speaker 1>he worth resigning? What kind of price would it cost? Well,

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna sign like with the Jets or somebody for

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>like four years, twenty six million, And they'd be like

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown, like yeah, that's what the interesting part is.

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>You know you got Byron coming up, So do you

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>allow Anthony Brown to also get away? If you can

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>get him for a modest deal, which I think you

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 1>might be able to get him for money. That's why

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you hope, like hell, that Mike Jackson or Donovan Alumba

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>or somebody kind of catches your eye the next month

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to give you that leverage that maybe you don't need

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>to sign that deal. Yeah, is this the most talented

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys roster in the two thousands? Yes, okay, see two

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one. Man, I don't know. In the two thousands,

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one since two thousand that was that

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>was my guy, Brian. I wasn't here. I wasn't here

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>for two thousand and seven, y'all were. But this is

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>easily the most talented roster that I have covered. Yeah,

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>this this team. I mean, I know that two thousand

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and seventeen maybe had thirteen Pro Bowlers, but I don't

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>thirteen wins. Yeah, I think I think this team is

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 1>better even. I mean, you know, we love to mythologize

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>fourteen because of the run that they were on at

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the end, but like they didn't have a pass rush.

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Their best defensive back was you know, probably Brandon Carr,

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>who I love, but you know, wasn't wasn't a you know,

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:59.280
<v Speaker 1>this amazing guy talent whearing Greg Ellis and Robert Quinn,

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and I would still take where Greg Gillis as the

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>better duo as pass rushers at that at that stage

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>when they were together, Greg Ellis was at that point

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>in his career when he was really, really, really good.

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>That the linebacker is much better. I think your best

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>cornerback may be better, right, So you start looking at

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the positions that really matter, and I think you could

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.839
<v Speaker 1>probably make the argument that you have better players at

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>those positions in a running game. So if you're saying

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>this is their best roster in the two thousands, that

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.320
<v Speaker 1>means this is their best roster since they won the

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. Is that what we're saying right now? Okay,

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm good with that, all right, I'm good with it that.

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>If they're not, it's a very very very very small margin.

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think they're definitely are right up there with

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the best the Cowboys I've ever had. I agree with you,

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not surprised, but like it to say it

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>out loud, is that's a trip that sits crazy expectations.

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Like you guys mentioned yesterday, it's a sky high it's exciting.

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>But I've you know, this is my seventh season, and

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>every time the expectations are up high, that's when the

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>s hits the fans. So we'll see, Please think positive. Okay,

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you know me, that's not what I does he make

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the fifty three c or no, he had an arrest

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 1>day yesterday, by the way, he did. I think I

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>think he does make the fifty three because you know,

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you can't coach speed, which I'm interested though, and you

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>don't want to read too much into unpadded practices. But

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have him returning punts the other day, and

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, if if you're not returning punts, what

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>are you doing right? Because we got three guys that

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.760
<v Speaker 1>can handle the three receiver spots, you know, no offense.

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>He's not like this acclaimed route runner or like the

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's not this amazing receiver. He's more of

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 1>a gadget web guy. But if he's not, you know,

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>if he's not contributing heavily on special teams, well we

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>have enough of a role on he ain't running down

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>with it. Yeah, he ain't running down to make tackles

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.359
<v Speaker 1>on special I don't think so right. If that's the case,

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>If he's not back the returning punts, I have a

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>hard time thinking he makes it. So I'm kind of

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>leaning to Wood right now. I'm having a hard time

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>figure out how he makes this team. I don't think

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>he person I'm putting him on the team, but I'm

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>writing it in pencil, and that's gonna be. I had

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a really I was so I knew what the receiver

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 1>corps looked like. I mean you, I'll admit it right now.

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought Alan Hearns was on this team. I you know,

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>he can play all three positions. He's a good attitude guy,

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>he can do the dir dirty work. He moves on.

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>And now it's chaos because you had four. If Hearns

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.399
<v Speaker 1>was on the team, you had four, so it's only

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.439
<v Speaker 1>one maybe two roster spots. Now you got three. And

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>we just said we don't really know what Tavon would

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.399
<v Speaker 1>do here. So what's I mean that you know, Noah Brown,

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Cedric Wilson, John Vay, Jalen Guiden. I mean, it's it's

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>total anarchy back there. I don't know what to expect. Yeah,

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, does Connor McGovern have the size and strength

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 1>to start Wake one? If necessary? What does if necessary mean? Well, like, yeah, see,

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean if he has to see because he's gonna

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:49.959
<v Speaker 1>be on the team. I mean, if you know, knock

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>on wood, if somebody's not available. Well, but when you

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>start talking about things like size and strength with the threes,

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know if I can. I've

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>seen enough to be able to answer that question. I

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>mean what we what we found out about Connor Williams

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>last year was we thought, Okay, this guy's gonna be

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. And then he got out here and you

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>actually got pads on and he's having to kind of

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>show his strength and how he uses his size. Then

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 1>we found out, hey, he's gonna have to bulk up

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>a bit. I think that's what I have to see

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 1>from from from a government. I haven't seen that yet.

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm anxious to see that today in those drills,

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the ones. I want to see him mcgoverned more than anybody.

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>But we were looking at yesterday, we were thinking, man,

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 1>look at the backup lineman. There's some good players over there.

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, Can Fleming has started in a Super Bowl.

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Joe Looney is started a lot of games for the Cowboys.

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>You've got Umil to a Filo who started some games

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and he and I still think he's really good. And

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<v Speaker 1>then which Wenchman was the other guard, which I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of surprised it wasn't McGovern right there. A lot

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>of stuff would have to go wrong for that to happen,

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>because if something were to happen to Travis or a guard,

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<v Speaker 1>then Looney would be the next man up. I think

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<v Speaker 1>so at guard too. Yeah, okay, for sure, Well I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. That's fascinating because either either a very talented

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 1>lineman is going to be on the street when this

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 1>is all over, or we're gonna see some roster cut

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>trades because there's just too many bodies and not enough nine. Right,

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 1>but even if you keep nine, you're probably putting somebody

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.439
<v Speaker 1>good out of a job. Most likely to keep nine.

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Nine's fine with me? Who are they? You got your starters,

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.800
<v Speaker 1>You got your starters, you got Cam, you got Joe,

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you got mcgoverned, right, I mean those and you're nine

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>the suaphilo? Right, isn't I had this argument yesterday. Isn't

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of interior linement? If you're gonna keep nine,

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>don't you want another tackle? I mean that that's nice.

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's probably although but having and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little more worried about. Okay, so are we sure that

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Travis's gonna be right? And that's where I say it's

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>okay to have a say in Mitch hy Mitch High

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>is a guy to watch. Brandon Knight is a guy

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to watch. They're very talented rookie offensive tackles that signed undrafted.

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.399
<v Speaker 1>They were you know, they're highatt was all American Night,

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.959
<v Speaker 1>was all conference worth watching. But let's say they don't

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>turn out to be anything super great. There's I mean,

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting rid of a very good, experienced guard

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>just because like conventional roster building says, you should, like

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 1>why take away from a position of strength. But if

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I could get something for him, I got now we're talking,

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I got you now. This one is gonna be hard

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<v Speaker 1>to answer. And speaking of the offensive line, Travis Frederick,

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<v Speaker 1>does he go back to that Pro Bowl caliber status

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this year? CEO? No? See. I say no only because

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the only person I've heard talk about this from a

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>from a point of experience, another offensive lineman said that

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>for him when he went through that and missed an

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 1>entire season, it took him two years to get back

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:52.240
<v Speaker 1>to his previous form. Now again, Travis may be completely different.

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>His injury may I mean is is condition may be

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>completely different. You know, obviously there are levels to every condition, right,

0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.439
<v Speaker 1>so but I just want to see it. I don't

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.839
<v Speaker 1>know if I trust that he'll be back to being

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>what he was before. That doesn't mean he might not

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>be really good. He I don't know if I'll trust

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>he'll be back to what he was before in the

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 1>first year coming right back after this, because we all know,

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 1>watching him last year, it was pretty you could know.

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>You noticeably saw he was limping. You noticedly saw he

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>lost a lot of weight, so there had to be

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>some strength that was lost with that as well. So

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I just want to see it. But I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 1>see is if, even if he isn't regained the form,

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 1>where is he going to be better than Looney? Like,

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 1>where's the where's the difference in how you know all

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>pro level and what Looney gave you last year? Is

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>he in between? Because if he comes back, it's not

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the same, It's really not better than Looney than to

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of have a problem. Well you do have a problem,

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 1>but you know, I think I think, let's not forget

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Dak was sacked more times than he ever ever was

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>before last year, So I think I think what Travis

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>is going to give you is a little bit more

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>from a recognition standpoint of where these guys are supposed

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to be. Just hopefully, you know, he can hold up.

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 1>But we'll find out here in the next few weeks.

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine there's just a small group of guys

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 1>that I don't bet against, and Travis is one of them.

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>He's been I mean we're at the Star every day.

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>He's been working since February to get back. There'll probably

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>be some growing pains. Maybe he won't hit the level

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that he was, but even if he's slightly less than that,

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 1>it'll be pretty damn good. I feel confident about that.

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 1>You know something that I've noticed because I'm working on

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>this project, I'm having to look through a lot of

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>old line footage and watch a lot of different practices

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. One of the things I've noticed that it

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was kind of cool. Travis was always the one person

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and the only person that even if there was nobody

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>in front of him, he would still go through the

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 1>motions and put his hands where they needed to be

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and it was just air and he would just go

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:46.839
<v Speaker 1>through all of that. And I'm like, that's amazing. I mean,

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of things that takes you maybe to

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:53.919
<v Speaker 1>that next step and that next level, to where you're

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>going above and beyond, to what you can do to

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 1>get there. I don't know. It was just something cool

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to see. And I think we're out of time. I

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>guess I think we are. Unless you have a few

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 1>more questions. If you want tell you what, let's take

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 1>one more take one more. All right, Well, we've been

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about contract extensions and all that the Cowboys extend

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>all Big three and stay competitive. See No, see, they're

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna extend all three. See see. And I would even

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I'd be willing to bet, be willing to best significant money,

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>decently significant money, that it gets done before training camp

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 1>is done all three. You'd be willing to make that bet.

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd be willing to give me some money. Let's have

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a conversation. I mean, I said yesterday I thought they

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>would too, But I have a feeling, I have a

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>feeling that that they already know what they want to do.

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:42.600
<v Speaker 1>The only way it doesn't get done, in my opinion,

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the only way it doesn't get done is if the

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 1>player doesn't want it to get done, which I could

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 1>see a scenario where Mari's like, look, I'm holding I

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>just want to see where all this plays out. I'm

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>not ready to sign anything, Mari. I mean, if if

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.919
<v Speaker 1>I was the Cowboys, it'd be like cool, like you're

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.479
<v Speaker 1>you're fine waiting, then we'll wait on you right where?

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And then Dak didn't want to answer it. Dak did

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>not want to answer whether he would table these conversations,

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:06.399
<v Speaker 1>whether when the season started. So I want to see

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's what scares me is we all just

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 1>said it, we all just gave him a big vote

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence. And if he's going to be more expensive

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>in January, I mean if this season, Yes, if this

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 1>season even goes remotely according to plan, he's going to

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>be more expensive. Yes, I think I think it will acquire.

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>David will, thank Squire, it will any shout out Cover

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 1>four know why he had to deliver that while I

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 1>was on the air. But it will require it will

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>require him having to have I think a super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>year in order for it to be terribly more expensive

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>than what it is already. It's it's already all those

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 1>numbers I just threw to you. Guess what, his agent

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.439
<v Speaker 1>has already thrown those to the Cowboys and they're like, look,

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting on a guy that historically is one of

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the best quarterbacks in their first three years in the NFL.

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 1>So they've already thrown those numbers there. I don't think

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that changes by him having a really good year this year,

0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>even getting into playoffs and playing if he gets a

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl now becomes at flackall situation outside of that

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:04.400
<v Speaker 1>though I think he's already going to command a significant

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 1>amount of money. We'll see. I think I think the

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>price goes up if he has another good season. Maybe

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:10.879
<v Speaker 1>not by a lot, but that's I mean, every little

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<v Speaker 1>bit accounts. Yeah, all right, we appreciate you guys joining us.

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