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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Monday, July twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, season fifteen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifteen, and we are live here from Oxnard, California,
Speaker 1: for another edition of The Break. Got Nick, Dave and
Speaker 1: Amber along with me. We're talking some Cowboys football with
Speaker 1: you guys for the next hour. Man, we got a
Speaker 1: lot to get into talking about. We'll talking about quarterbacks today.
Speaker 1: I think yesterday we've spent quite a bit of time
Speaker 1: talking about the running back situation in Zeke Elliott. Uh
Speaker 1: and I just think we spend a little time on
Speaker 1: this quarterback. Lots of things to talk about there. How's
Speaker 1: everybody feeling this morning? I feel great, feel comfortable. Nice.
Speaker 1: It's sixty three degrees here. Hey, it's better than Dallas.
Speaker 1: It's great for the players Cowboys. All right, Well, let's
Speaker 1: jump right in. Nick. Hey, actually just like we did yesterday,
Speaker 1: We're gonna start. We're gonna start with a segment of
Speaker 1: blanket coverage. That's what I call this segment. What I'll
Speaker 1: do is I'll have some statements for you. We got
Speaker 1: three states, we got three statements, and they're all gonna
Speaker 1: have a blank that you guys will fill in. Let's
Speaker 1: start with the first statement. Kellen Moore is the first
Speaker 1: time Now this one's a little long, so follow me here.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is the first time offensive coordinator with a
Speaker 1: ton of weapons. John Kitton is the first year QB
Speaker 1: coach task with taking back to the next level. The
Speaker 1: coach who has the harder job is blank, Dave Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: Because I mean John kittnas he said it more times
Speaker 1: than I can count at this point. Like Dak is,
Speaker 1: he said. Dak is the most driven player he's ever
Speaker 1: been around. His desire to be great is all consuming
Speaker 1: and refreshing, and he wants to be coached and pushed.
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's you know, it's hard. I get that,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't sound that challenging. Whereas Kellen Moore's got
Speaker 1: to do something with an offense that finished twenty eight
Speaker 1: second in the League last year ever, Kellen, I mean,
Speaker 1: when you look at it, Kinna essentially has to coach
Speaker 1: one main guy. Yes, he has to coach whoever the
Speaker 1: backtub is gonna be. But that's important too, very very important.
Speaker 1: Don't lose that, don't lose very important. Yes, But in essence,
Speaker 1: you're focusing on one to three guys versus Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: who's having to take control of a whole offense and
Speaker 1: dealing with different components and making sure that he's creating
Speaker 1: something different that we haven't seen before. Not to which
Speaker 1: I mean Nick needs to answer the question too. But
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore's gotta make he's got to make this thing go.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of talent on that offense, which
Speaker 1: means there's a lot of people who have an idea
Speaker 1: about the way it should be, whether that's dad and
Speaker 1: when someone else's job is on your shoulder. But he
Speaker 1: also is dealing with a lot of guys, at least
Speaker 1: in my perspective, aren't necessarily give me the ball kind
Speaker 1: of guys. No, they all want they all want to
Speaker 1: be a part, don't get me wrong, But I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've got guys that are give me the ball, No,
Speaker 1: like you make not so much. Sometimes you have that
Speaker 1: much talent, Give me the ball. But that didn't work.
Speaker 1: This would have worked, which a lot of times this
Speaker 1: would have worked. Means it would have worked if you'd
Speaker 1: gotten to the ball. But Nick, it's Kellen Moore because
Speaker 1: last year the offense struggled, and what happened the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator got fired, or what happened the quarterback coach got
Speaker 1: a promotion, so Kellen Moore moved into a spot. And
Speaker 1: so it is. It's obviously the pressure is on Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore now is the offensive coordinator. If they don't do well,
Speaker 1: he may not be the guy. But John Kittenham, for
Speaker 1: some reason, as the quarterback coach, just like Kellen did,
Speaker 1: got a promo motion out of it. So I think
Speaker 1: Jerry and Jason and they look at it, like you know,
Speaker 1: there's obviously a lot more pressure for the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: and I think last year was a good example of that.
Speaker 1: All right. Statement Number two, Shaun Lee reportedly asked to
Speaker 1: be a special teams player entering his tenth season. Sean
Speaker 1: Lee is blank. I'm not going to agree with that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think Sean Lee asked to be a special
Speaker 1: teams player. I think Sean I think Sean Lee has
Speaker 1: said I'll do what it takes, whatever is needed of Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just want to get out there. I think that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you could probably say the same thing about
Speaker 1: moving to Sam linebacker too. Okay, but let's okay, Let's
Speaker 1: say Sean Lee has agreed and he's willing to be
Speaker 1: a special teams player in his tenth season. Shan Lee
Speaker 1: is blank nick, all in, all in for this football team.
Speaker 1: He whatever it takes. Sean Lee is there. And I
Speaker 1: know that there was a lot of talk about, Hey,
Speaker 1: he lives in California. He wanted to go go back
Speaker 1: to Dallas just so he could take the charter, and
Speaker 1: he said to us yesterday, I want to get on
Speaker 1: these charters as long as I can those charters. This
Speaker 1: is when the football team is together and going up there.
Speaker 1: He's all in. He knows Layton and m Jalen are
Speaker 1: the two best linebackers on the team. He wants to
Speaker 1: have a role, and he understand it. I just think
Speaker 1: it's all in, Dave. I just suck up to Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett and say driven les driven, which that can mean
Speaker 1: a lot of I mean, he's he's been driven to
Speaker 1: be great at football since he was, like, what at
Speaker 1: fourteen years old? But I think, you know, I think
Speaker 1: i'll use a Brian broadest term too, like he's he's
Speaker 1: chipping in on seventeen or eighteen, like his his career
Speaker 1: is much closer to the end than the beginning, and
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if this is the final year of
Speaker 1: his career or you know, it's close. And I think
Speaker 1: he knows this is a really talented team and rather
Speaker 1: than worry about his ego, he's gonna he's driven to
Speaker 1: do whatever he can to help them. I really admire it.
Speaker 1: Shan Lee is blank Amber. He's awesome. I love him.
Speaker 1: I love Slee. He's passionate, he's smart, he is driven,
Speaker 1: he's focused, he loves this game. He is a great
Speaker 1: teammate and like every both of them have said, he
Speaker 1: would do anything for this team. And the fact that
Speaker 1: he's not selfish and still does it with good heart.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't see any animosity. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if that's the right words, but he sounds right.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have any hate or envy towards anybody. He's
Speaker 1: just a great teammate, and I think that's exactly what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys needed, especially at this time. And he's he's amazing.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on statement number three. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: to this point have had all their practices in shorts
Speaker 1: and T shirts. Today they put on the pads when
Speaker 1: the Pats come on. I'm most excited to see Blank
Speaker 1: Amber fight fight. I already sucked up to Garrett you
Speaker 1: can't do it too from last year. No, I am excited.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to finally see some contact and be able
Speaker 1: to see, for example, players like Tacco, what is he
Speaker 1: gonna do? There are some guys I come in here
Speaker 1: and yes, they look physically, they look good, they have
Speaker 1: you athletusis and but once that contact comes in in
Speaker 1: action and you get to do it and get off
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, what are you gonna do? Are
Speaker 1: you able to move around? Are you able to take
Speaker 1: guys like Tyrn Smith? Are you able to take other
Speaker 1: guys out? You know? So, I'm excited to see them
Speaker 1: full go Dave action. Yeah. I don't want to single
Speaker 1: one specific thing out because there's so much to watch,
Speaker 1: but I mean these, you know, the OTA practices are
Speaker 1: I mean boring, for lack of a better word. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot going on, especially out here. At least
Speaker 1: in the spring. They were going against each other, no
Speaker 1: offense versus defense whatsoever. The last two days. That's going
Speaker 1: to change today, whether it's one on ones, whether it's
Speaker 1: actual offense versus defense, We're just gonna see action in
Speaker 1: real football. And it's great. Yeah, I'll just be specific
Speaker 1: to what they're saying. I mean, one on one drills,
Speaker 1: you know, the lineman versus the live versus the D line.
Speaker 1: You know, the guys like that, and that's where you know,
Speaker 1: that's where you noticed Antoine Woods from a year ago.
Speaker 1: That's where he started to make, you know, some noise.
Speaker 1: And so who's this year's guy going to be? So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting you said that. I know you
Speaker 1: and I were talking about this yesterday talking about the
Speaker 1: offensive versus defensive line. This may be the deepest offensive
Speaker 1: line that we've had around here in a while. We
Speaker 1: were talking about the fact that if you look at
Speaker 1: this second team offensive line, they may be as good
Speaker 1: as some first team units around the NFL. So when
Speaker 1: you when you consider that and you consider that up
Speaker 1: against the talent that this team has on the defensive
Speaker 1: line as well. I think there's some really really unique
Speaker 1: opportunities to see some really good football there and see
Speaker 1: some fun competition here over the next couple of days. Um, so,
Speaker 1: let's let's go and jump into this conversation on the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I guess the first thing I want to kind of
Speaker 1: get into is a lot of talk that was happening
Speaker 1: during the offseason, and you guys watched all the OTAs
Speaker 1: in mini miniicamp practices. There was a ton of talk
Speaker 1: about how, you know, Dak's been working with Kitna, He's
Speaker 1: improved his footwork work, his accuracy is better. I'll ask
Speaker 1: you guys, after watching that, was there anything that you
Speaker 1: saw that that gave credence to those kinds of statements
Speaker 1: that his accuracy has improved, his footwork has improved. What
Speaker 1: have you seen just in OTAs in mini camps and
Speaker 1: maybe the first two days practice mid level throws eighteen yards?
Speaker 1: Those throws right there are the ones that you see
Speaker 1: these guys open a lot. I think that that's a
Speaker 1: credit to also Kellen Moore. I feel like these guys
Speaker 1: are getting schemed open more. But you know, he can
Speaker 1: throw the ball deep. He can obviously throw it short
Speaker 1: underneath and make the right reads and all that, but
Speaker 1: those eighteen yard throws, those are the ones that are
Speaker 1: the toughest ones. And to make a really good quarterback,
Speaker 1: you got to throw it over the linebacker and under
Speaker 1: the safety as the guys moving. And I think we've
Speaker 1: seen We'll see what happens when them when you know,
Speaker 1: pads come on. But I think those are the passes
Speaker 1: that I've been impressed with. Yeah, just looked, I mean,
Speaker 1: his anticipation and his placement looked phenomenal. In the spring,
Speaker 1: it really stood out to me with Randall Cobb. That's
Speaker 1: I just have sky high hopes for what they can be.
Speaker 1: And yeah, intermediate throws leading the receiver, putting it on
Speaker 1: him instead of behind him or too far out in
Speaker 1: front of little stuff like that. I haven't really you know.
Speaker 1: I know people are arguing about some of his throws
Speaker 1: out here so far these first two days, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't care less. It's all on air. It's really hard
Speaker 1: to tell how accurate they are when nobody's contesting it.
Speaker 1: So I haven't seen anything to really give me an
Speaker 1: impression to this point out here. But in OTAs he
Speaker 1: really he looked different in a good way. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did. That's good old now, you know well, And
Speaker 1: I like when he's starting to step out of the
Speaker 1: comfort zone that I feel that the Cowboys had built
Speaker 1: around him and for him of those short yardish throws
Speaker 1: you know, to Cole Beasley, Jason Witten when he was
Speaker 1: here and now that he's back, Yeah, that's great. But
Speaker 1: being able to see him make those throws down the
Speaker 1: field now at this point of the what it's not
Speaker 1: the season, but the off season. I guess at this
Speaker 1: point of the year, it's good, yes, training camp, but
Speaker 1: it's good to see and the fact that he is
Speaker 1: being able to make those throw it's very motivational for
Speaker 1: what is to come this year. Yeah, it's interesting. I
Speaker 1: just I want to see it here now. Yeah. Right,
Speaker 1: it's very interesting. And I think at this point what
Speaker 1: we really are wanting to see is does he take
Speaker 1: that next step into being one of the elite quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's done some really good things. I
Speaker 1: was telling you, Dave before we went on the air.
Speaker 1: I went back last night and I was doing some
Speaker 1: research on just some historically how you would how would
Speaker 1: you would characterize what Dak has done in the first
Speaker 1: three years of his career, and check out some of
Speaker 1: these numbers. Really remarkable stuff when you think about it.
Speaker 1: But the first thing said out to me is he
Speaker 1: is only one of eight players in the NFL has
Speaker 1: started all games. So the first three years as a
Speaker 1: quarterback's again, we're talking about one hundred years NFL this
Speaker 1: year is celebrating a hundred years of existence, and in
Speaker 1: a hundred years, he is one of eight players that's
Speaker 1: been able to do that. Here are the interesting numbers.
Speaker 1: He is second all time in completion percentage in the
Speaker 1: first three years of his career at sixty six point
Speaker 1: one percent. He is fifth in wins with thirty two.
Speaker 1: He is six in quarterback rating with ninety six. And
Speaker 1: here was the stat that really jumped off to me.
Speaker 1: He is number one all time one hundred years first
Speaker 1: three years of a quarterback's career in game winning drives
Speaker 1: with fourteen. This guy's had a pretty phenomenal first three
Speaker 1: years as a quarterback in the NFL. So here's what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do with you guys. We're gonna play
Speaker 1: a little game. It's gonna be I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: a name I'm gonna go down this list of last
Speaker 1: season the quarterbacks in the NFL in order of passing yards,
Speaker 1: and when I want you guys to tell me would
Speaker 1: you rather would you rather have Dak or this guy?
Speaker 1: All right on, Dak for what to this year? Or
Speaker 1: as my quarterbacks because I have a new franchise. No
Speaker 1: that Derek acts like that's not fair, but it totally is.
Speaker 1: It's fair. I just it's just I didn't think that
Speaker 1: far ahead. Tell you what, let's how would you prefer
Speaker 1: to do this year? This year? Just for this year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just for this year, not for the future, just for
Speaker 1: this year. All right, that's fine. I'm going with that.
Speaker 1: I'm going with that. So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through the list. You tell me would
Speaker 1: you rather have that guy? That guy. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to keep score here, and what I'm looking for is
Speaker 1: the total. So if we can get two out of three,
Speaker 1: then we'll count that person. I want to see how
Speaker 1: many quarterbacks in the NFL you guys would rather have
Speaker 1: instead of Dack? Okay, got it, Ben Roethlisberger, Dak. That's tough.
Speaker 1: Come on, first thought, I don't like this scheme, let's
Speaker 1: go probably been all right, which that's tough because I
Speaker 1: assume Ben's gonna miss like anywhere between two and four games,
Speaker 1: all right, and you'd rather have been I think, So okay,
Speaker 1: Amber this year, I think Dak. I'm gonna go with that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Ben is out. Patrick Mahomes my homes all right,
Speaker 1: that's one. Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan. M I would say
Speaker 1: with Dak, you stay with Dack Nick. I'm sorry for
Speaker 1: I need the judge's ruling on this. Is this for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Is Matt Ryan on the Cowboys or Dak
Speaker 1: on the game? Is that what we're doing? Who would
Speaker 1: you rather have on the cowbooks for this year? Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Okay, So Matt Rown makes two. Jared Golf,
Speaker 1: Dack Dack I'm not a I'm not a believer in
Speaker 1: golf yet. Andrew Luck Luck Look yeah, all right, So
Speaker 1: that's three. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, that's four. Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, that's five. H Philip Rivers Rivers for one year. Right,
Speaker 1: We're not building the franchise this year? Yeah yeah, uh
Speaker 1: Rivers Rivers Okay, I mean yeah, all right, So Rivers
Speaker 1: that's six Eli Manning. Dak seriously, come on, Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: back all right, Deshaun Watson Dak Dack all right, that's
Speaker 1: interesting to all y'all said that, okay, Um, Derek Carr
Speaker 1: Dak Dak all right, Drew Brees breeze freeze all right,
Speaker 1: Caseina Dak Dak all right. I mean and now and
Speaker 1: now and now and now you get to the point
Speaker 1: of that's where Daki is right now, yeah, in passing
Speaker 1: guards right then. Matthew Stafford, Oh, that's tough. Like that.
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford is just he's so interesting because like he's
Speaker 1: everything you could want in a quarterback, except like he
Speaker 1: doesn't happen well, he doesn't have the one thing that
Speaker 1: Dak has, which is like it, you know, the game
Speaker 1: winning the chair, Matthew Stafford, and once he does, we're
Speaker 1: still at zero playoff wins within with yeah, no and
Speaker 1: what and you know, I get that that's hard, but like,
Speaker 1: and he's very good. Like he's he's super talented. I
Speaker 1: think recently somebody was quoted in the story of being
Speaker 1: like he's the most talented quarter just if you're talking
Speaker 1: about talent, he's the best one ever. Just in terms
Speaker 1: of like god given ability, but he has yet to
Speaker 1: dis like it, like and he's had a Megatron. You
Speaker 1: can't say that he hasn't had Guys, He's had some
Speaker 1: great things. I'll take like. There's no doubt he's more
Speaker 1: talented than Dak. But I think i'll take my chances
Speaker 1: with that Dack. You in Amber, can you switch them
Speaker 1: in now? Like, okay, at this time of the game,
Speaker 1: let him all right? Uh so he's out Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: I really love Baker. I think he's going places, but
Speaker 1: I gotta see more. I gotta see more than twelve
Speaker 1: he starts. Yeah, Russell Wilson, Russ, I love Russ. All right?
Speaker 1: Uh Cam Newton, dam Cam Newton on this Cam Newton
Speaker 1: on this team could do some damnah. Yeah, I'll take Cam.
Speaker 1: You'll take Cama going to camp. Okay, that's nine. I'll
Speaker 1: take all right, Mitchell Trubisky Dak all right, Um, Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz Dak Dak my game in sixteen games out of
Speaker 1: wins this year. Okay, don't want this based on his
Speaker 1: history whatever, whatever you think of his history. That's really tough.
Speaker 1: I said it quick, but it's tough. It is tough.
Speaker 1: But that may be one of the toughest ones that's
Speaker 1: in this whole thing. I mean, if they're both healthy,
Speaker 1: you know, don't kill me. Wentz is probably a better
Speaker 1: pure quarterback. But Dak has never missed a game. Winz
Speaker 1: has had a problem with that his whole career, and
Speaker 1: we had a problem with him. I'll take that because
Speaker 1: I know I'm getting sixteen games, all right? Yeah? Still, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so he's out, Um, Jamis Winston back, Sam
Speaker 1: Donald back, Andy Dalton back, Marks Mariota back. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can getting into the Yeah. The only other
Speaker 1: guy that's down here you would even want to throw
Speaker 1: in there would be Lamar Jackson. He's a starter, no back.
Speaker 1: All right, So we got nine guys. That's probably where
Speaker 1: you would say that, so he would had him ten? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that? Where? Is that? Where? And this is where
Speaker 1: this was all leading? Is that what you would think
Speaker 1: he ends up? If you were to say here's how
Speaker 1: I think Dak ranks in the NFL, would you think
Speaker 1: he's right there around ten? In to is a top
Speaker 1: ten quarterback in the NFL, depending on how much the
Speaker 1: person you're polling likes the Cowboys. Yeah, he's somewhere between
Speaker 1: ninth and I'll even say sixteenth. Like, you know, there's
Speaker 1: somebody out there that's, like I saw yesterday, somebody was like,
Speaker 1: dak is Andy Dalton. That's just who he is. That's
Speaker 1: what the stats say is And Okay, so you might
Speaker 1: even just drop him down as far as like fifteen
Speaker 1: or sixteen, but he's somewhere in that range between second
Speaker 1: tier in the middle of the past. Yeah, depending on
Speaker 1: who you ask. There's a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 1: a national that would say, you know, Roethlisberger is better.
Speaker 1: He's won super Bowls obviously, and then they would go
Speaker 1: wins and and maybe Stafford and some others. But are
Speaker 1: people that are listening right now are probably like, how
Speaker 1: could you pick him over Matt Ryan or something? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They would probably have him seven,
Speaker 1: you know, six or seven. So it's a fun game.
Speaker 1: That was a good game. All right, let's go and
Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back, I want
Speaker 1: to talk about I want to narrow that down a
Speaker 1: little bit more and talk about two guys that we've
Speaker 1: compared him to on this show. Some of our other
Speaker 1: conversations Russell Wilson, Tom Brady and their first three years
Speaker 1: and where Dak ranks there. We'll talk about that when
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Speaker 1: slash football. Back to the Break Welcome back. It's the
Speaker 1: second segment of The Break Black from Oxnard, California. We
Speaker 1: are in date three of training camp here in Oxnard.
Speaker 1: Today Cowboys put on the pad, so it should be fun,
Speaker 1: fun afternoon of getting the CVS guys compete. To this point,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of an offense on offense, defense on defense,
Speaker 1: but today we'll mix it up a little bit and
Speaker 1: get to see some really interesting things. We can also
Speaker 1: have a little training camp live action this afternoon. I
Speaker 1: think with Brian brought us and who do you know
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Speaker 1: have to find the content that we're producing you. But
Speaker 1: I did want to talk back get back into this
Speaker 1: quarterback conversation. We talked about where Dak kind of ranks
Speaker 1: historically around the NFL, really great numbers. He compares very
Speaker 1: well over one hundred years of quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I do want to say, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: take credit away from Dak, but with the way the
Speaker 1: game is now, absolutely comparing rating and completion percentage to
Speaker 1: anybody that played before like two thousand and five, is
Speaker 1: I don't care, Like, yeah, of course he's got a
Speaker 1: better completion percentage than y a tittle like the you know,
Speaker 1: safeties used to literally murder people in the secondary back then.
Speaker 1: So still very impressive, but the stats are so skewed.
Speaker 1: I think he when he retired, he had the all
Speaker 1: time leading quarterback rating in the history of the NFL
Speaker 1: was like eighty three eighty three point two. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now if you look at the all time leaders, they're
Speaker 1: all at current players. You know, it's just the way
Speaker 1: the game it is and that but that also wins something.
Speaker 1: The wins in the first three year and saying that
Speaker 1: that's impressive, but that also speaks to something. It speaks
Speaker 1: to the fact that even with those guys that have
Speaker 1: been playing since two thousand and five, that's the number
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with. That's the year You're gonna go with,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of quarterbacks in NFL since two
Speaker 1: thousand and five. And for him to be ranked where
Speaker 1: he is in all these stats, in all these different categories,
Speaker 1: I think says something. You know, and I don't know
Speaker 1: where where he ranks as far like, what were the
Speaker 1: other guys in there from the victories? Did you say
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson or uh no, Actually I was going to
Speaker 1: get into that. Uh, those guys actually were lower. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson and Tom Brady actually were lower as far as
Speaker 1: number of wins than what he was in the first
Speaker 1: three years, probably layoffs with his difference. Okay, right, playoffs
Speaker 1: was you know. But the thing about about Dak is,
Speaker 1: you know he comes in on a team that went
Speaker 1: won four games the year before, you know, so it's
Speaker 1: not like it was, you know, a Roethlisberger situation or
Speaker 1: that just kind of jumps into a good team that's
Speaker 1: already there. I Mean, this team had to had to
Speaker 1: you know, move its way back up. So um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been impressive. These first three years have definitely been
Speaker 1: impressive for him to go and win games, and especially
Speaker 1: like you said, game winning drives that have to come
Speaker 1: back and huge fourteen of them in his first three
Speaker 1: years and eight I believe it was a full season
Speaker 1: where eight fourth quarter comebacks. I believe eight think so
Speaker 1: I think it was eight. Yeah, fourth quarter to comeback
Speaker 1: is eight. He's tenth in the league. He's tenth in
Speaker 1: league history in that stat. I can hear the people
Speaker 1: in my mentions right now saying, well, if he played
Speaker 1: better at the beginning of games, they wouldn't need to
Speaker 1: do that at the end. And I'm just like, you
Speaker 1: must not watch the NFL, like you must have no
Speaker 1: idea what this sport, what this league is all about,
Speaker 1: because it's a freaking it's a field goal league, like
Speaker 1: one play between a win and a loss. League was
Speaker 1: captain cumback. No one says that about him now, Seriously,
Speaker 1: I think that championship, like you know, we we just
Speaker 1: sat there and we I think we all pretty much
Speaker 1: agreed that there's anywhere between six and nine quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: we would take over Dak right now. But he is.
Speaker 1: He is clutch. He has the it factor that we
Speaker 1: talk so much about. I don't care if you get
Speaker 1: tired of it, because I really do think it means something.
Speaker 1: He doesn't make too many mistakes, like to see him
Speaker 1: clean up the fumbles from last year a little bit,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't make mistakes. His feet are an asset
Speaker 1: that need to be used more. And eighteen touchdowns on
Speaker 1: the grounds for itself, Like, there's so much to like
Speaker 1: about where he is, and he is turning twenty six
Speaker 1: today and that's great, and you want to talk about
Speaker 1: so much should be happy about where he is. I
Speaker 1: think you have to look no farther than, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the two guys that are most comparable to him from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of the start to their careers, and that
Speaker 1: would be Russell Wilson and Tom Brady. The reason why
Speaker 1: I say that is because at the start of their
Speaker 1: careers they would in very similar situations to Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: They had teams that had really good defenses, really good
Speaker 1: or great defenses. They had really good or great running games,
Speaker 1: and so he was just the They were just the
Speaker 1: parts that had to not mess it up. Like just
Speaker 1: you have a few throws you gotta make every game,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, relying your running game, it's
Speaker 1: okay to punt, rely on your defense to get the
Speaker 1: ball back to you. Don't screw it. Up, make a
Speaker 1: player two here and there, and your team's going to
Speaker 1: be successful. And if you look at if you compare
Speaker 1: the first three years of all three of these guys,
Speaker 1: check this out. Daki has a better completion percentage. He
Speaker 1: has twenty more passing yards per game than the next
Speaker 1: closest guy. UM. He's got more game, more touchdowns per
Speaker 1: game than than than than either of the three. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that actually they're about the same one point four
Speaker 1: one point five um. And then he has fewer interceptions
Speaker 1: than both those guys. When you start thinking about it
Speaker 1: from that standpoint through the first three years, it sets
Speaker 1: up really nicely for him to take that leap. In
Speaker 1: the fourth year, which is when Russell kind of started,
Speaker 1: you started seeing him take that leap. For Tom it
Speaker 1: really kind of happened more in the fifth year. But
Speaker 1: you start seeing an opportunity now for Dak to take
Speaker 1: that next step and see if he can become with
Speaker 1: those guys have become, because he certainly has had to
Speaker 1: start better start than those three. Get those two guys did,
Speaker 1: and all three of those guys, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I'll have something else income and they all are replacing
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks tier two quarterbacks in NFL history. I think
Speaker 1: you would say as Drew Bledsoe, Um, Tony, Romo, and
Speaker 1: maybe even Matt Hasselbeck if if that's he wasn't that direct.
Speaker 1: He didn't even replace. They didn't know what they they
Speaker 1: had to varg got Matt Flynn, right, They didn't know
Speaker 1: what they were doing at quarter back when he showed up,
Speaker 1: paid him a significant amount of money. But they gave
Speaker 1: when they gave Matt Flynn twenty million dollars. Yeah, before
Speaker 1: a comparison standpoint, you know, that was like the last
Speaker 1: great quarter or good quarterback that they had. Same with Romo.
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're replacing a good player, not at all,
Speaker 1: you know, not a Hall of Famer, but a good player.
Speaker 1: Blood say it's not a Hall of Famer? Is he
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be. I don't think he's just a
Speaker 1: good player. Yeah. So, but the standards were pretty high
Speaker 1: for those guys coming in, and they've done then they've exceeded.
Speaker 1: I don't think you would say Dak has exceeded what
Speaker 1: Romo has done yet, but he's getting there. And none
Speaker 1: of them were first round picks. That's the other the
Speaker 1: unique thing about them they were all guys that kind
Speaker 1: of were he took a little flyer on him. You
Speaker 1: put them on a team that had good things around them,
Speaker 1: good running game, good offensive line, good defense, and you
Speaker 1: just let him kind of develop into the position, didn't
Speaker 1: give them too much too soon, and let him really develop.
Speaker 1: I think it was you, Dave. They were saying that
Speaker 1: in the tenth the other day, like that's a lost
Speaker 1: start in today's NFL, putting those putting quarterbacks in those
Speaker 1: kind of situations where they really have time to develop.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it ever was an art like
Speaker 1: this is such a this is such a win now,
Speaker 1: don't make mistakes League. The conversation we had in the
Speaker 1: tenth the other day is, and I know it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be everybody, but how many lesser talented quarterbacks would have
Speaker 1: a chance to shine if they got the opportunity that
Speaker 1: a Dack or a Russell Wilson got, where you know,
Speaker 1: the starter goes down or the backup goes down, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're actually getting snaps. Because we'll
Speaker 1: see it over the next month, Cooper Rush and Mike
Speaker 1: White are gonna get snaps because they need it, because
Speaker 1: they got to figure out what to do with that.
Speaker 1: But typically your third quarterback gets like four reps in
Speaker 1: a period, and if you're the fourth quarterback, forget about it.
Speaker 1: Like the kid they just sign. How many meaningful reps
Speaker 1: is he gonna get in the next month, like maybe
Speaker 1: a dozen. So there's just not time to develop these guys.
Speaker 1: And you're so worried about making sure you're winning games.
Speaker 1: Why we can't practice you. We gotta get these reps.
Speaker 1: And now it's Dack. We gotta get these reps for
Speaker 1: Dack if we're gonna win the super Bowl. So I
Speaker 1: would just love to see and it'll never happen, but
Speaker 1: I would love to see how many Day three quarterbacks
Speaker 1: could develop into worthwhile starters if they got that time
Speaker 1: and attention to develop. It's interesting. And the interesting thing
Speaker 1: though there is if you're going to do that, that
Speaker 1: means the team will have to put the right resources
Speaker 1: in place to have a running game, to have a
Speaker 1: defense that can allow that quarterback to develop. And that's
Speaker 1: a hard thing to do for a lot of teams too,
Speaker 1: because you have to kind of build that. You have
Speaker 1: to build that the right way and then get to
Speaker 1: the point where you plug in the quarterback and let
Speaker 1: him kind of be just the guy that keeps everything
Speaker 1: on the rails right. Yesterday, John Kitten had a quote
Speaker 1: that I thought was really interesting. I wanted to read
Speaker 1: it for you guys and get some feedback on it.
Speaker 1: He said, the thing that I keep talking to them
Speaker 1: he's talking about the quarterbacks about, is forget the idea
Speaker 1: of I'm trying to complete the ball. Just cut it loose,
Speaker 1: rip it, rip the throw. If you're good enough, or
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be here, make your best throw, and the
Speaker 1: completions will handle themselves. It sounds to me like what
Speaker 1: he's really trying to get them to do is be
Speaker 1: more confident, trust to what they're seeing, and just go
Speaker 1: for it. How much do you think that that helps
Speaker 1: all of these quarterbacks because I don't know that. I
Speaker 1: don't know that I think that of Dak, that he's
Speaker 1: a guy that's too tentative. But I do think we've
Speaker 1: had some of those kind of criticisms of the backup
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they're a little too tentative, a little too
Speaker 1: afraid to kind of just let it go. You think
Speaker 1: in stealing that kind of confidence in them today, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you make a mistake, make the mistake all in
Speaker 1: rather than being too tentative. Any saw that from Dak
Speaker 1: last year, though, I feel that last year he took
Speaker 1: somewhat of a step back where he got a little
Speaker 1: more hesitant and just didn't at least to me, he
Speaker 1: just didn't feel or seemed as confident to move around
Speaker 1: and throw the ball. It just it was taking a
Speaker 1: little too long. And I think that's also part of
Speaker 1: where all those fumbles came from, and just part of it.
Speaker 1: I like hearing what Kinna said, I think this is
Speaker 1: the perfect time of the year for him to do that,
Speaker 1: to feel, make those mistakes, make them here, let it out.
Speaker 1: Rip I love that. Rip it, rip it, rip it.
Speaker 1: Let it out and you'll feel better, you know. I
Speaker 1: took a little different approach on him holding the ball
Speaker 1: a little longer last year for me, and maybe I
Speaker 1: was looking at it the wrong way, but I was
Speaker 1: thinking that was more function of him waiting for things
Speaker 1: to happen down feel and not just getting rid of
Speaker 1: the ball, and I think both can cause you to
Speaker 1: hold onto the ball too long. I thought of that
Speaker 1: more than him being hesitant. It may not be the case.
Speaker 1: I may have just given him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: But that's what I kind of put it on. What
Speaker 1: did you guys think, I mean for sure, but I
Speaker 1: definitely I agree with age like there I feel like
Speaker 1: in Dak's mind, he's like, part of what makes me
Speaker 1: valuable is I'm not going to lose the ball and
Speaker 1: so if it's not an obvious throw or not, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's not a high percentage maybe not a high
Speaker 1: percentage completion. But thinking about the Beasley throw, the you know,
Speaker 1: the famous the hail Mary, Like that's either going to
Speaker 1: be a touchdown or an incompletion. You know, like, that's
Speaker 1: no problem. It's the it's the well. If I don't
Speaker 1: put this exactly where it needs to be, something really
Speaker 1: bad could happen. I feel like at times maybe there
Speaker 1: was hesitancy. Didn't trust his arm, didn't trust his arm,
Speaker 1: didn't trust his protection, didn't trust his accuracy, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Whereas I think you do need to have that confidence.
Speaker 1: But it's a tough line to ride. And to be fair,
Speaker 1: I'll shout out people on Twitter, great quote by kitten Up.
Speaker 1: It's fair to point out he threw one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty nine touchdowns on one hundred and sixty five interceptions
Speaker 1: in his career, right, so you've got you gotta find
Speaker 1: that balance isn't always good, No, I mean here it
Speaker 1: is though, And actually it makes me think to last year.
Speaker 1: You know, there were reports coming out of Kansas City
Speaker 1: like Mahomes is throwing four and five picks of practice.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is he terrible? Turns out not so much.
Speaker 1: But this is the time to let it. You know.
Speaker 1: I'd rather you rip it and see what you can
Speaker 1: do and develop some of those skills as opposed to well,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna check down because it'll look good tonight
Speaker 1: in the film room when I were watching it, you know,
Speaker 1: and and the all time leader and interceptions, I believe
Speaker 1: it is bred farve. I mean, like, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to kind of you have to to play that
Speaker 1: way sometimes. But you know, when I think back to
Speaker 1: like Romo when twenty and ten eleven, you know, if
Speaker 1: he if he just let it rip every time he
Speaker 1: was throwing the ball to Dez Bryan, I mean, who
Speaker 1: who knew where the ball was going to be and
Speaker 1: who was going to intercept it? You know, you have
Speaker 1: to also trust not just your arm, you have to
Speaker 1: trust where the guys are and where they're going to be,
Speaker 1: because you know, you have to make sure that everybody
Speaker 1: is on is in sync with the offense and who
Speaker 1: you're throwing too. And I think Matt Ryan can can
Speaker 1: let it rip when he knows hu Leo Jones is
Speaker 1: route there, running a route or whatever, just because where
Speaker 1: they are. That's why, you know, going back to why
Speaker 1: why Cooper, you know, why are you here? Why aren't
Speaker 1: you doing what? Because he knows he needs this time
Speaker 1: right here in this offseason to get to that point
Speaker 1: with um you know, with Dak and Gallop and those
Speaker 1: guys as well. I think now he has all those
Speaker 1: all the right elements for him to get to that
Speaker 1: level where he needs to be because last year you
Speaker 1: had all the confusion of what are you doing in
Speaker 1: the offense, all the receivers coming in and out? You know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't completely clear. It started becoming clear once I'm
Speaker 1: already guy here. But I think this time of the year,
Speaker 1: we know who those receivers are gonna be and who's
Speaker 1: gonna be there for him. So the connection between them
Speaker 1: is being built as of right now, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: show once the season starts. I like that point. I
Speaker 1: do too. All right, let's take our final break. We're
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Speaker 1: us through a game or no, All right, let's get
Speaker 1: it started. This is uh, this question is are kind
Speaker 1: of all over the map, So thank you to those
Speaker 1: who sent them in. Let's get started. Anthony Brown is
Speaker 1: a better slot corner than Jordan Lewis. See or no,
Speaker 1: m M. I don't think so, I'm gonna say no. See,
Speaker 1: I don't know. See Anthony Brown has played more snaps
Speaker 1: in the slot than Jordan Lewis. He's he's a little
Speaker 1: more battle tested. See I say no. I say I
Speaker 1: think because I want it. Yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: he's got more talent um than Anthony Brown. He probably
Speaker 1: has a little bit more quickness. Maybe not speed, but quickness.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go with I also think my personal
Speaker 1: belief is I think that if given the opportunity, I
Speaker 1: think he may be a will get a few more
Speaker 1: turnovers than Anthony Brown does. I think Anthony Brown's okay
Speaker 1: slot corner. I think Jordan might be able to because
Speaker 1: of his quickness. I think he might actually and I
Speaker 1: don't think he's really gotten that opportunity, but I think
Speaker 1: he might be able to get a little a few
Speaker 1: more turn without trying to derail your game real quick.
Speaker 1: I just Anthony Brown is interesting to me because like
Speaker 1: he might be the most unappreciated player on this team.
Speaker 1: He's a three he's a three year starter. He's definitely.
Speaker 1: He's not a pro bowler. He's made his share of mistakes.
Speaker 1: He's he's gotten beat as all cornerbacks do. But three
Speaker 1: year starter, pretty good player. He's made some big plays
Speaker 1: and like, no, just nobody, everybody wants to give his
Speaker 1: job away or whatever. Like he's I'm interesting. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see he's in a contract year. Is
Speaker 1: he worth resigning? What kind of price would it cost? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign like with the Jets or somebody for
Speaker 1: like four years, twenty six million, And they'd be like
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, like yeah, that's what the interesting part is.
Speaker 1: You know you got Byron coming up, So do you
Speaker 1: allow Anthony Brown to also get away? If you can
Speaker 1: get him for a modest deal, which I think you
Speaker 1: might be able to get him for money. That's why
Speaker 1: you hope, like hell, that Mike Jackson or Donovan Alumba
Speaker 1: or somebody kind of catches your eye the next month
Speaker 1: to give you that leverage that maybe you don't need
Speaker 1: to sign that deal. Yeah, is this the most talented
Speaker 1: Cowboys roster in the two thousands? Yes, okay, see two
Speaker 1: thousand and one. Man, I don't know. In the two thousands,
Speaker 1: two thousand and one since two thousand that was that
Speaker 1: was my guy, Brian. I wasn't here. I wasn't here
Speaker 1: for two thousand and seven, y'all were. But this is
Speaker 1: easily the most talented roster that I have covered. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this this team. I mean, I know that two thousand
Speaker 1: and seventeen maybe had thirteen Pro Bowlers, but I don't
Speaker 1: thirteen wins. Yeah, I think I think this team is
Speaker 1: better even. I mean, you know, we love to mythologize
Speaker 1: fourteen because of the run that they were on at
Speaker 1: the end, but like they didn't have a pass rush.
Speaker 1: Their best defensive back was you know, probably Brandon Carr,
Speaker 1: who I love, but you know, wasn't wasn't a you know,
Speaker 1: this amazing guy talent whearing Greg Ellis and Robert Quinn,
Speaker 1: and I would still take where Greg Gillis as the
Speaker 1: better duo as pass rushers at that at that stage
Speaker 1: when they were together, Greg Ellis was at that point
Speaker 1: in his career when he was really, really, really good.
Speaker 1: That the linebacker is much better. I think your best
Speaker 1: cornerback may be better, right, So you start looking at
Speaker 1: the positions that really matter, and I think you could
Speaker 1: probably make the argument that you have better players at
Speaker 1: those positions in a running game. So if you're saying
Speaker 1: this is their best roster in the two thousands, that
Speaker 1: means this is their best roster since they won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Is that what we're saying right now? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm good with that, all right, I'm good with it that.
Speaker 1: If they're not, it's a very very very very small margin.
Speaker 1: But I think they're definitely are right up there with
Speaker 1: the best the Cowboys I've ever had. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: and I'm not surprised, but like it to say it
Speaker 1: out loud, is that's a trip that sits crazy expectations.
Speaker 1: Like you guys mentioned yesterday, it's a sky high it's exciting.
Speaker 1: But I've you know, this is my seventh season, and
Speaker 1: every time the expectations are up high, that's when the
Speaker 1: s hits the fans. So we'll see, Please think positive. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know me, that's not what I does he make
Speaker 1: the fifty three c or no, he had an arrest
Speaker 1: day yesterday, by the way, he did. I think I
Speaker 1: think he does make the fifty three because you know,
Speaker 1: you can't coach speed, which I'm interested though, and you
Speaker 1: don't want to read too much into unpadded practices. But
Speaker 1: they didn't have him returning punts the other day, and
Speaker 1: I was like, if if you're not returning punts, what
Speaker 1: are you doing right? Because we got three guys that
Speaker 1: can handle the three receiver spots, you know, no offense.
Speaker 1: He's not like this acclaimed route runner or like the
Speaker 1: you know, he's not this amazing receiver. He's more of
Speaker 1: a gadget web guy. But if he's not, you know,
Speaker 1: if he's not contributing heavily on special teams, well we
Speaker 1: have enough of a role on he ain't running down
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, he ain't running down to make tackles
Speaker 1: on special I don't think so right. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: If he's not back the returning punts, I have a
Speaker 1: hard time thinking he makes it. So I'm kind of
Speaker 1: leaning to Wood right now. I'm having a hard time
Speaker 1: figure out how he makes this team. I don't think
Speaker 1: he person I'm putting him on the team, but I'm
Speaker 1: writing it in pencil, and that's gonna be. I had
Speaker 1: a really I was so I knew what the receiver
Speaker 1: corps looked like. I mean you, I'll admit it right now.
Speaker 1: I thought Alan Hearns was on this team. I you know,
Speaker 1: he can play all three positions. He's a good attitude guy,
Speaker 1: he can do the dir dirty work. He moves on.
Speaker 1: And now it's chaos because you had four. If Hearns
Speaker 1: was on the team, you had four, so it's only
Speaker 1: one maybe two roster spots. Now you got three. And
Speaker 1: we just said we don't really know what Tavon would
Speaker 1: do here. So what's I mean that you know, Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, John Vay, Jalen Guiden. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: total anarchy back there. I don't know what to expect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, does Connor McGovern have the size and strength
Speaker 1: to start Wake one? If necessary? What does if necessary mean? Well, like, yeah, see,
Speaker 1: I mean if he has to see because he's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the team. I mean, if you know, knock
Speaker 1: on wood, if somebody's not available. Well, but when you
Speaker 1: start talking about things like size and strength with the threes,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I can. I've
Speaker 1: seen enough to be able to answer that question. I
Speaker 1: mean what we what we found out about Connor Williams
Speaker 1: last year was we thought, Okay, this guy's gonna be
Speaker 1: pretty good. And then he got out here and you
Speaker 1: actually got pads on and he's having to kind of
Speaker 1: show his strength and how he uses his size. Then
Speaker 1: we found out, hey, he's gonna have to bulk up
Speaker 1: a bit. I think that's what I have to see
Speaker 1: from from from a government. I haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm anxious to see that today in those drills,
Speaker 1: the ones. I want to see him mcgoverned more than anybody.
Speaker 1: But we were looking at yesterday, we were thinking, man,
Speaker 1: look at the backup lineman. There's some good players over there.
Speaker 1: You know, Can Fleming has started in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Joe Looney is started a lot of games for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You've got Umil to a Filo who started some games
Speaker 1: and he and I still think he's really good. And
Speaker 1: then which Wenchman was the other guard, which I was
Speaker 1: kind of surprised it wasn't McGovern right there. A lot
Speaker 1: of stuff would have to go wrong for that to happen,
Speaker 1: because if something were to happen to Travis or a guard,
Speaker 1: then Looney would be the next man up. I think
Speaker 1: so at guard too. Yeah, okay, for sure, Well I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's fascinating because either either a very talented
Speaker 1: lineman is going to be on the street when this
Speaker 1: is all over, or we're gonna see some roster cut
Speaker 1: trades because there's just too many bodies and not enough nine. Right,
Speaker 1: but even if you keep nine, you're probably putting somebody
Speaker 1: good out of a job. Most likely to keep nine.
Speaker 1: Nine's fine with me? Who are they? You got your starters,
Speaker 1: You got your starters, you got Cam, you got Joe,
Speaker 1: you got mcgoverned, right, I mean those and you're nine
Speaker 1: the suaphilo? Right, isn't I had this argument yesterday. Isn't
Speaker 1: that a lot of interior linement? If you're gonna keep nine,
Speaker 1: don't you want another tackle? I mean that that's nice.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's probably although but having and I'm a
Speaker 1: little more worried about. Okay, so are we sure that
Speaker 1: Travis's gonna be right? And that's where I say it's
Speaker 1: okay to have a say in Mitch hy Mitch High
Speaker 1: is a guy to watch. Brandon Knight is a guy
Speaker 1: to watch. They're very talented rookie offensive tackles that signed undrafted.
Speaker 1: They were you know, they're highatt was all American Night,
Speaker 1: was all conference worth watching. But let's say they don't
Speaker 1: turn out to be anything super great. There's I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting rid of a very good, experienced guard
Speaker 1: just because like conventional roster building says, you should, like
Speaker 1: why take away from a position of strength. But if
Speaker 1: I could get something for him, I got now we're talking,
Speaker 1: I got you now. This one is gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to answer. And speaking of the offensive line, Travis Frederick,
Speaker 1: does he go back to that Pro Bowl caliber status
Speaker 1: this year? CEO? No? See. I say no only because
Speaker 1: the only person I've heard talk about this from a
Speaker 1: from a point of experience, another offensive lineman said that
Speaker 1: for him when he went through that and missed an
Speaker 1: entire season, it took him two years to get back
Speaker 1: to his previous form. Now again, Travis may be completely different.
Speaker 1: His injury may I mean is is condition may be
Speaker 1: completely different. You know, obviously there are levels to every condition, right,
Speaker 1: so but I just want to see it. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I trust that he'll be back to being
Speaker 1: what he was before. That doesn't mean he might not
Speaker 1: be really good. He I don't know if I'll trust
Speaker 1: he'll be back to what he was before in the
Speaker 1: first year coming right back after this, because we all know,
Speaker 1: watching him last year, it was pretty you could know.
Speaker 1: You noticeably saw he was limping. You noticedly saw he
Speaker 1: lost a lot of weight, so there had to be
Speaker 1: some strength that was lost with that as well. So
Speaker 1: I just want to see it. But I'm curious to
Speaker 1: see is if, even if he isn't regained the form,
Speaker 1: where is he going to be better than Looney? Like,
Speaker 1: where's the where's the difference in how you know all
Speaker 1: pro level and what Looney gave you last year? Is
Speaker 1: he in between? Because if he comes back, it's not
Speaker 1: the same, It's really not better than Looney than to
Speaker 1: kind of have a problem. Well you do have a problem,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think I think, let's not forget
Speaker 1: Dak was sacked more times than he ever ever was
Speaker 1: before last year, So I think I think what Travis
Speaker 1: is going to give you is a little bit more
Speaker 1: from a recognition standpoint of where these guys are supposed
Speaker 1: to be. Just hopefully, you know, he can hold up.
Speaker 1: But we'll find out here in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1: I would imagine there's just a small group of guys
Speaker 1: that I don't bet against, and Travis is one of them.
Speaker 1: He's been I mean we're at the Star every day.
Speaker 1: He's been working since February to get back. There'll probably
Speaker 1: be some growing pains. Maybe he won't hit the level
Speaker 1: that he was, but even if he's slightly less than that,
Speaker 1: it'll be pretty damn good. I feel confident about that.
Speaker 1: You know something that I've noticed because I'm working on
Speaker 1: this project, I'm having to look through a lot of
Speaker 1: old line footage and watch a lot of different practices
Speaker 1: and stuff. One of the things I've noticed that it
Speaker 1: was kind of cool. Travis was always the one person
Speaker 1: and the only person that even if there was nobody
Speaker 1: in front of him, he would still go through the
Speaker 1: motions and put his hands where they needed to be
Speaker 1: and it was just air and he would just go
Speaker 1: through all of that. And I'm like, that's amazing. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of things that takes you maybe to
Speaker 1: that next step and that next level, to where you're
Speaker 1: going above and beyond, to what you can do to
Speaker 1: get there. I don't know. It was just something cool
Speaker 1: to see. And I think we're out of time. I
Speaker 1: guess I think we are. Unless you have a few
Speaker 1: more questions. If you want tell you what, let's take
Speaker 1: one more take one more. All right, Well, we've been
Speaker 1: talking about contract extensions and all that the Cowboys extend
Speaker 1: all Big three and stay competitive. See No, see, they're
Speaker 1: gonna extend all three. See see. And I would even
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to bet, be willing to best significant money,
Speaker 1: decently significant money, that it gets done before training camp
Speaker 1: is done all three. You'd be willing to make that bet.
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to give me some money. Let's have
Speaker 1: a conversation. I mean, I said yesterday I thought they
Speaker 1: would too, But I have a feeling, I have a
Speaker 1: feeling that that they already know what they want to do.
Speaker 1: The only way it doesn't get done, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the only way it doesn't get done is if the
Speaker 1: player doesn't want it to get done, which I could
Speaker 1: see a scenario where Mari's like, look, I'm holding I
Speaker 1: just want to see where all this plays out. I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to sign anything, Mari. I mean, if if
Speaker 1: I was the Cowboys, it'd be like cool, like you're
Speaker 1: you're fine waiting, then we'll wait on you right where?
Speaker 1: And then Dak didn't want to answer it. Dak did
Speaker 1: not want to answer whether he would table these conversations,
Speaker 1: whether when the season started. So I want to see
Speaker 1: And that's that's what scares me is we all just
Speaker 1: said it, we all just gave him a big vote
Speaker 1: of confidence. And if he's going to be more expensive
Speaker 1: in January, I mean if this season, Yes, if this
Speaker 1: season even goes remotely according to plan, he's going to
Speaker 1: be more expensive. Yes, I think I think it will acquire.
Speaker 1: David will, thank Squire, it will any shout out Cover
Speaker 1: four know why he had to deliver that while I
Speaker 1: was on the air. But it will require it will
Speaker 1: require him having to have I think a super Bowl
Speaker 1: year in order for it to be terribly more expensive
Speaker 1: than what it is already. It's it's already all those
Speaker 1: numbers I just threw to you. Guess what, his agent
Speaker 1: has already thrown those to the Cowboys and they're like, look,
Speaker 1: you're sitting on a guy that historically is one of
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in their first three years in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So they've already thrown those numbers there. I don't think
Speaker 1: that changes by him having a really good year this year,
Speaker 1: even getting into playoffs and playing if he gets a
Speaker 1: super Bowl now becomes at flackall situation outside of that
Speaker 1: though I think he's already going to command a significant
Speaker 1: amount of money. We'll see. I think I think the
Speaker 1: price goes up if he has another good season. Maybe
Speaker 1: not by a lot, but that's I mean, every little
Speaker 1: bit accounts. Yeah, all right, we appreciate you guys joining us.
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