1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Boy, 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: this was a stunner. Over the weekend. Bill Malusian over 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: at Fox leaked a news report that the Board of 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: Supervisors in La County had this huge plan to depopulate 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: the La County jails. Yeah, the other word they use 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: is decarcerat Now, we've been watching this for some time. 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 1: They've had this idea for a while that they think 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: everybody just needs mental help, mental illness help. They should 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: not be thrown in any kind of jail, and this 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: is going to include possibly felons. It was a directive 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: to the La County Sheriff to figure out who they 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Let's keep in mind one important detail here. They have 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: a new sheriff, don't they. They don't have Alex Vieneueva, 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: who clearly didn't like this idea. Now they had this 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: sinca fans Long Beach police chief who's now the La 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: County Sheriff who's kind of in their back pocket and 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: on board with most of what they say. So I 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: think that's why they waited and they put forth this plan. 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: We will tell you right now. The plan has been 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: withdrawn already for now. Details came out last night and 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: then this morning, just before twelve, came out the news 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: that they have pulled back the plan. And what I 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: mean they it's Ellie County supervisor Hilda Salise and John's supervisor, 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: the new one, Lindsay Horvath. Those are the two behind 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: this plan. She's a disaster. We're gonna get Eric sadal On, 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: he's vice president of the Elae Association of Deputy District Attorneys, 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: to get into the meat of this, like what kind 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: of prisoners would be released? Eric, First of all, I 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: imagine your organization would be wildly against this. Right. We 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: heard about this on Saturday. It was kind of a 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: surprise motion. No one really notified us. The very little 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: notice was given to any type of law enforcement agency 34 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: or any other subject matter. In fact, I think the 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: chiefs for the county actually sent a letter to the 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Board of Supervisors saying that they were not notified and 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: they were surprised that about this, this motion that fills 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: Lease and Horback put up out of nowhere, And really 39 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is right now, there's about 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand on any given day there's about fifteen thousand 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: inmates in the Los Angeles County Jail. They're going to 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: get rid of Men Central Jail. That would reduce their 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: capacity by five thousand. So they have created no infrastructure 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: to deal with violent criminals and they're going to lose 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: five thousand beds. So they've since they created no infrastructure 46 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: to deal with this. In other words, they haven't replaced 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: Men Central Jail, they hadn't increased the capacity of other 48 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: jail facilities. They were simply just going to start releasing 49 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: by balons and also making sure that more violent felons 50 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: were cited and released. And just so your listeners can 51 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: understand what site releases. When you have a traffic violation, 52 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: like you run a step a stop sign, you're cited 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: with a citation, and you're released by law enforcement and 54 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: you're told to come back at a different date. Well, 55 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: they were going to start doing that same program for 56 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: people with bailable offenses under fifty thousand dollars. And to 57 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: give you an idea of what's under fifty fifty thousand 58 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: dollars or under residential burglary, robbily, possession of child pornography, 59 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: balance with firearms, those are the types of offenses that 60 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: people would have been cited and released under this program, 61 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: possession of child pornography, they get an automatic release, really 62 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: site and release, which is basically a catch and release policy. 63 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: Domestic violence too, I read, yeah, so domestic violence is 64 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: under fifty thousand dollars that would have been included. There 65 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: would have been a whole host of different types of crimes. 66 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: Fact most people consider violent that would have been eligible 67 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: under the motion that was supposed to happen on Tuesday. 68 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: So we learned about this on Saturday. We started contacting 69 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: the media and talking to the media, and you mentioned 70 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Bill Lucian. He really pushed this issue hard. Fact, I 71 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: think he got one hundred or a million hits off 72 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: of his tweet just about this issue. And now the 73 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: Board of Supervisors is withdrawing the motion, and you know, 74 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: we're thankful for them to do that. Did you hear 75 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: the statement that they put out. I have not seen 76 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: a statement, but let me just read you what hilled 77 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: us lease. She put out a statement this morning. Since 78 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: the motion was published, my officers received concerns from a 79 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: variety of stakeholders, those who feel the motion's not doing 80 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: enough and those who feel it's doing too much trying 81 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: to make it sound like it was fifty fifties, right flying. 82 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: It was mostly people who probably jumped out of their 83 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: seats in horror. All right when I saw this, well, 84 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: I guess last night we got wind of Milusians tweet 85 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: it's like, what the hell? Now this has gone way 86 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: way overboard, way too far. Well, two supervisors immediately, I 87 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: have a statement from Janis Han I do not support this, 88 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: along with Katherine Barger also said she does not support this. 89 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: So it's another reason why Salie said, now I got 90 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: two down already. That would only leave Holly Mitchell if 91 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: they actually voted on this for three to two to 92 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: get this in action. So I think she decided to 93 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: just let it sit there for a while. There has 94 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: been a real voice of reason on public safety issues, 95 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: so you know, we thank her for her representation District five. 96 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, she has been a real ally for public safety. 97 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: They didn't come to your group or to the police 98 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: chiefs or any other extension of law enforcement to discuss this, 99 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: what this would do to the city, the county. No, 100 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: there there was no notice. And you know that's the 101 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: other problem if you're going to do something as radical 102 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: as this, By the way, it's I mean, it's pretty radical. 103 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: Makes George Gascon look like a conservative law and order prosecutor. 104 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna do something like this, you better have a plan, 105 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: and you should also talk to the people who are 106 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: subject matter experts on this issue, get them involved, and 107 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: get their buy in. They did none of that. But 108 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what's there to debate. If you're letting 109 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: violent felons would be felons, people who have child pornography, 110 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: who've beaten their wives and girlfriends, people who have committed burglaries, burglaries, 111 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: assault with a firearm. If it's not self evident that 112 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: that's a disaster, what is it you can say to 113 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: these people? I mean, I mean, this is nuts. So 114 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: lease and horror there nuts If they don't this is 115 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: this is the most This is the strangest agenda I've 116 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. This depopulate the jail agenda. Well, 117 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: you know what, let's just let's just be glad for 118 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: now it's gone. I do have to say, you know, 119 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about Sheriff Luna. I don't know what Sheriff 120 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: Luna's position on this is, but you know, one of 121 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: the complaints that the chiefs had was that most law 122 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: enforcement officials were in Vegas for an annual race, and 123 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: so a lot of the people who would be the 124 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: experts on this, who are to talk about this in 125 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: a competent way, a lot of them were gone out 126 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: of state. And Sheriff Luna was one of those people 127 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: that was gone out of state while they try to 128 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: get this motion pass. So you know, I was just 129 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: saying they wanted very much to get rid of Sheriff 130 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: in a wava And a lot of people think that 131 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: they're on board with Sheriff Luna. I don't know that 132 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's okay 133 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: with decarceration depopulation. Let me ask you this, Eric, The 134 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: angle here and all the articles I'm reading is we 135 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: need more mental health services. We need care, not jails. 136 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with that argument. I mean, all 137 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: the people that we talked about, particularly the ones that 138 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: you said could be released, all they need is mental 139 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: illness treatment and will all be safe. Well, we actually 140 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: do need more mental health lockdown facilities. The problem is 141 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: we only have one in a county. Okay. Well, should 142 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: you actually we know but there is a need for 143 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: mental health lockdown facilities. There are none. That's the problem. 144 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the people who are committing residential 145 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: burglary and things like that, but there are people who 146 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: are violent on the street who do have mental health 147 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: issues that we should be giving some type of lockdown 148 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: facility to. The problem I have with this particular emotion 149 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: is it doesn't deal with real violent criminals. In fact, 150 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: all it does is release them. It doesn't deal with 151 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: mental health issues. It just releases them. Releasing violent criminals, 152 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: whether they have a mental issue or not, is not 153 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: a solution to public safety. It only increases the problem. 154 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: It makes it worse. At least you have to build 155 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: these mental health lockdowns first. See, I think it's just 156 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: a cover story that they just don't want people incarcerated, 157 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: so they'll use the cover story. Oh yeah, well use 158 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: the money we save on jails to fund mental health, 159 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: like we saw at Prop forty seven, Right, And that 160 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: was a sham too, Right. It's the actual plan that 161 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: they have, or that some people have, is to just 162 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: to get rid of these facilities and not rebuild anything else. 163 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: And that's not a solution. That's really just based on 164 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: ideology right there. They're not thinking about what's good for 165 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: the public. They're not even thinking about what's good for 166 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: the inmates. They're thinking about how do I get rid 167 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: of any type of lockdown facility, whether it's for mental 168 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: health or whether it's for violent criminals. And that's all ideological, 169 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: that's not practical, it's not good, and it's baffled public safety. 170 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: All right, Eric, thank you so much for coming on 171 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: again on short notice. We appreciate it. Yeah, thank you guys. 172 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: All right, Eric Sadal, who was the vice president of 173 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles County Association of Deputy Das. Here was 174 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: the title of this thing, The Actionable Steps to Depopulate 175 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: and decarcerat LA County Jails. It's a proposal by two 176 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: LA County Supervisors, Lindsay Horvath, and he'll dis lease. It 177 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: was supposed to be addressed tomorrow at their Tuesday meeting 178 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: at the Board of Supervisors. We just got word in 179 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: the last hour or so it has been withdrawn. But 180 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: they'll be back, and so we'll wait. John and Ken's 181 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: show kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on 182 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John and Ken on 183 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: demand from kf I AM six forty. Well, we began 184 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: the show with a story that well, our email was 185 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: pumbled with in the twenty four hours, and that of 186 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: course is the idea of the Eli County Border Supervisor 187 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: as well two of the studges, He'll de Slease and 188 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: Lindsay Horvath to decarcerate and depopulate the Eli County jails. 189 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: Do you know what that means? That means letting out 190 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: violent felons any pretty much everybody goes and they're using 191 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: this excuse again on the overcrowded you go overcrowded. Now, 192 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: well they made it overcrowded on purpose. I understand that 193 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: this has been in the works for over a decade now, 194 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: where they refused to build new prisons, they let the 195 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: old jails and prisons go to hell and then saying 196 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: well this is inhumane. Yes, they made it inhumane by 197 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: design so that after a few years they could say, wow, 198 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: this is just terrible. We can't have people living like 199 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: this in our jails. We'll have to let them go. 200 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: Because remember they did this statewide with a B one 201 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: on nine. Suddenly, Build one on nine was about building 202 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: more prisons. It got gutted, and instead it was this 203 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: prisoner dumping bill that we talked about for the last 204 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: thirteen years or something like that. They have this extreme 205 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: radical and I tell you this is like a religious cult. 206 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Now it really is this idea that nobody should be incarcerated, 207 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: nobody should be in a jail or prison. And now 208 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: you're taking people who are supposed to be in jail 209 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: and a bail of fifty thousand dollars or lower. Now 210 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: you've got to do something serious to get fifty thousand 211 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: dollars worth of bail put on you. Well, it's violent 212 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: offenses such as residential burglary, robbery, assault with a firearm, 213 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: domestic violence, illegal possession of a firearm, possession of child pornography. 214 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: Think about that, a guy is found with child porn 215 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: to the point where there's fifty thousand dollars a bail 216 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: on them, and Lindsey Horvath and held the so lease. 217 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: And I tell you, I heard preaching for so long 218 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: about how we need more women in politics. Women have 219 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: a better sensibility, women have a better understanding of women 220 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: and children issues. That was all a load of crap, 221 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: wasn't it. Because the women we have now running the 222 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: Alay County Supervisor Board and there's five of them. The 223 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: women we have want child pornographers to be released, people 224 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: with child porn possessions, They want guys who've beaten up 225 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: their wives and girlfriends to be released. Well, I remember 226 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: two of them said no. Janis Han's statement, which I 227 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: have right in front of me, is that we need 228 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: to have more input from our partners, including law enforcement, 229 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: deputy das and the courts. But I bet you they 230 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: didn't like the fact that this just slid right in 231 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: there over the weekend and nobody really weighed in on it. 232 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: I bet you they have a majority though, because Holly 233 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: Mitchell is as far left wing as you're going to find. 234 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: So it's her, Lindsey Horvath and Hilda's lease. And if 235 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: these other two, Janis Han and Katherine Barker, if they 236 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: really mean what they say and they're against this, then 237 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: they better be raising holy bloody hell every day of 238 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: the year in public in the me and start a 239 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: counter movement against this. This is stuff to take to 240 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: the streets over it really is. This is colossally dangerous 241 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: dumping out and I am so sick of all their nonsense. 242 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: They start talking about systemic racism and the stakeholders and 243 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: men it's all about on my mental illnesses. There's just 244 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: people that need some treatment and then we'll be fine. 245 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: It's all about their mental illness, they know. I think 246 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: when you're talking about these robbers, Oh, these are people, 247 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: particularly now, who see an opportunity to steal and they 248 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: take it. And as we lessen the penalties, lessen the 249 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: bail amounts, and lessen the dail time, they'll just do 250 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: more of it. That's the message you send. Back Two 251 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: years ago, they created the Jail Closure Implementation Team. The 252 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: mandate is to safely close and demolish the Men's Central 253 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Jail without building a replacement. Well, I mean this is 254 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: all you need to know. They want to destroy and 255 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: they are destroying the jail system. And Lindsey Horvath and 256 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: Hildas Lease our public enemies number one. They're one A. No, 257 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: they're both number one. They're tied for first. They are 258 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: one in one as basically the same thing they're they're 259 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: they're they're absolutely a menace. They're a danger to normal 260 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: civilized living. Why they're in office is beyond me. I can't. 261 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: It's really a majority of people in La County want 262 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: everybody dumped out of the jails. Really, is that true. 263 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: I've never run into those people. I don't know those people. 264 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't know one person who says, oh, you got 265 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: a guy on child porn, Yeah, let him out, no bail, 266 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: no problems society ran Oh a guy who just beat 267 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: his wife to a pulp, Yeah, let him out. Show 268 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: me the woman in La County who agrees with that. 269 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't think one exists. No, and it's not just 270 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: no bail. They want to reduce all the sentences down 271 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: to almost nothing for almost every crime. They probably would 272 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: hold a little in an exception for murder and maybe 273 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: sex assault. That's about all they would hold the line 274 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: explain to me, and nobody ever will. I'll probably have 275 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: to ask this every day for the rest of my life. 276 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: Why do all these gun control people want to let 277 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: out prisoners who've committed assault with a firearm or a 278 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: legal possession of a firearm. You know, that's the conflict 279 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: they have. I guess it's more important to them to 280 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: empty the jails than it is to disarm people. I 281 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: guess it is. That's all I can think of that 282 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: they had to set a priority, and they decided it's 283 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: more important to make sure nobody goes to prison that 284 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: it is to charge somebody extra for having a gun, 285 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: even though we hate well, they're thinking, is ridiculous. It 286 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: is a cult. It is a religious cult. It's every 287 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: religion has all kinds of weird beliefs, but they're benign, right, 288 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: not hurting anybody. We're not supposed to judge or criticize. 289 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: But if you actually said some of the beliefs of 290 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: the major religions out loud, you go, wow, that's pretty nuts, 291 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: isn't it. Well, this is a religion that has real 292 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: practical consequence, all right. Were a lot more on this later. 293 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: I thought I was seeing a ghost. The story that 294 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: appears in the New York Post with this headline, la 295 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: County quietly introduces decarceration effort comes with a photograph of 296 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: some inmates sitting there at desks listening to someone speak. 297 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: You know who it is. It's Bacca Shrifley Baca. There's 298 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: some old photo they put up there to show the 299 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: county jail. N I guess that's the last time they 300 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: had a photo of that. And I just looked him up. 301 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: By the way, he's supposed to be getting out of prison. 302 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: If he hasn't already, he will soon because his three 303 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: years is up. The fly put him away in twenty twenty. 304 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: He had bad Alzheimer's or dementia. Yeah, I don't know 305 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: what his condition is now, all right, When we come 306 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: back last week, we told you that we may have 307 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: really really dodged a bullet in terms of who could 308 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: be our future governor. This was a San Diego County 309 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: supervisor by the name of Nathan Fletcher. A lot of 310 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: you probably never heard of him, but he had his 311 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: sight set on running to replace Newsom in the future. Well, 312 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: he's in a bit of trouble that. We have a 313 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: lot of detail coming from Carl Demio from a formed California. Next, 314 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken kf I AM six forty Live everywhere the 315 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app. You're listening to John and Ken on 316 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: demand from kf I AM sixty. We're on from one 317 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: to four on the radio. After four o'clock, it's the 318 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: John and kennon demand podcast that you could hear on 319 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. And anything he missed, you already missed 320 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: something we had Eric Sinaldi, head of the Assistant District 321 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: Attorney's organization responding to this wacky idea from the La 322 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: County Board of Supervisors to depopulate the county jails. Yeah, 323 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: get rid of all the all the all the people 324 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: who are waiting trial in the jails, who've been accused 325 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: in a lot of cases of felonies. Yet well, the 326 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: idea has been withdrawn for now. It didn't take long 327 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: for the blowback to begin, and he'll just elease. The 328 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: chair of the Board of Supervisors has withdrawn the measure. 329 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: It will not be discussed tomorrow, but we know it 330 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: will not go away. They've been after this. It could 331 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: be a long long time back on Wednesday. Well, we're 332 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna update you now on a story we talked about 333 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: last week a bit. There is a politician in San 334 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: Diego County. He is a supervisor by the name of 335 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: Nathan Fletcher. Although he's resigning from the board. He is 336 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: just awful. You talk about the woke left and some 337 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: of the stuff he supports. He's got a wife too, 338 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: who used to be in the State Assembly, Lorena Gonzales. 339 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: She now heads up the California Labor Federation. So she 340 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: took a hack job as a labor leader and left 341 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: the legislature. She was the author of AB five. That's 342 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: the bill that was going to put a big hole 343 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: in the lives of people that act as their own employer, right, 344 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: the freelancers and stuff. So this is the power couple 345 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: that thought that they were as sending. Fletcher has his 346 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: eyes on becoming governor someday. But he was running around 347 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: in Lorena. He took a right, he was running for 348 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: state Senate and then he said, I'm not going to 349 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: do that because I gotta enter rehab. I had PTSD, 350 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: I was in the military. But then it kind of 351 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: blew up when we got a lawsuit. Right, that's what 352 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: it's about. He's a lawsuit was filed in San Diego 353 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: County Court by a woman have a name of Gracia Figaroa, 354 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: and it's against Fletcher. But Gonzalez is involved too. So 355 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: let's get more from Carl Demio Reform California and also 356 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: COGO Radio. He knows a lot about this story and 357 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: can updates and they both must go right, Carl, oh, absolutely, 358 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: and look, Nathan Fletcher, you nailed it. He wants to 359 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: be governor and he's now married, at least for the 360 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: moment to the state's most prominent labor leader Lorena Gonzalez. 361 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: She's the head of the California Labor Federation. She's spent 362 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: about a decade in the California State Assembly, and as 363 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned, she's passed the worst legislation you can imagine, 364 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: including eighty five, which bans independent contractors in California. Nathan 365 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: Fletcher and Lorena Gonzalez are just the worst of politics. 366 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: They are ambitious, they're nasty, they're wrong on the issues, 367 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: just a very toxic combination. So a lot of people 368 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: felt that they were this up and coming power couple 369 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: and you had to be careful and watch out for them, 370 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: and they definitely exerted a lot of influence across the state. Well, 371 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: guess what We now found out that not only was 372 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Nathan Fletcher cheating on Lorena and apparently, according to this 373 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: lawsuit from Miss Figaroa, sexually harassing her as well as 374 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: allegedly sexually assaulting her on two occasions. But now we're 375 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: finding out that when Miss Figaroa was terminated from her 376 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: government job in the agency that Nathan Fletcher oversees, the 377 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: Metropolitan Transit District, he reached out through an attorney to 378 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: Nathan Fletcher and Lorena Gonzalez and said, Hey, I was 379 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: sexually harassed. You know it, I know it. You need 380 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: to pay me money and make me whole. How are 381 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: you going to fix it? How are you going to 382 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: make me whole? According to the lawsuit that was filed, 383 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: paragraph fifty nine, there is a real bombs tell and 384 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: it states that Lorena Gonzalez and Nathan Fletcher made quote 385 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: threats of billying, intimidation, and defamatory legal action against Miss 386 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: Graciolia or miss miss Figaroa. It says, quote uh, they 387 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: indicated they intended to sue Miss Figaroa for extortion if 388 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Miss Figaroa filed a civil suit publicly to vindicate her rights. 389 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: In addition, they stated they would make Miss Figaroa quote 390 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: look terrible, and it is going to follow her for 391 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: the rest of her life. Now, um, you might say, well, 392 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? It's it's it's two sides disagreeing 393 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: about facts. Here's the problem for for Lourena Gonzalez and 394 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: Nathan Fletcher. They are admitting that the affair occurred. They 395 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: are admitting and acknowledging that Miss figaro was terminated. So 396 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: the matter is not a manufactured extortion by someone saying, hey, 397 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: Amy off where I'm going to make something up about you. 398 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: This is her constitutionally protected, state law protected right to 399 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: basically sue mister Fletcher and Lorena Gonzalez. What she did, though, 400 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: what Lorena Gonzalez did by threatening this woman is not 401 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: only a reflective of the fact that she has no 402 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: credibility on labor law, because this is a protected person 403 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: under California labor law she was retaliated against, but this 404 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: also could be construed as violating criminal law by virtue 405 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: of threatening to destroy her reputation and in essence reverse extortion. 406 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: Either you drop your your your claim against us, or 407 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: we will destroy your reputation. You know who went to 408 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: jail for this, Michael Avenati. He was convicted of threatening 409 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: to destroy the reputation of Nike by filing a lawsuit, 410 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: and that that is why Nike should give him money 411 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: or settle with him. So this is a big, big deal. 412 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: Not only is it showing that she has no credibility 413 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: on labor issues because she's violating the very labor laws 414 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: that she says she supports, but now she's probably going 415 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: to have some real problems legally with this lawsuit, given 416 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: the fact that there's a good there's a good claim 417 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: that Miss Figueroa can now make that she was being 418 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: extorted to drop her lawsuit. Um, and it could very 419 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: well lead to criminal charges or at least civil damages. Now, 420 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: let me ask you about Fletcher. He's been this big 421 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: deal in San Diego politics for a long time and 422 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: he was angling to become the next second coming of 423 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. And he started out as a Republican and 424 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: ended up as a way to woke Democrat. Wow, what 425 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: is this guy about? And had you heard any stories 426 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: about him running around with women? Because it like he 427 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: was up to a lot of good. Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, 428 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: Remember he ran against me for San Diego mayor in 429 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. You know, prior to getting into radio and 430 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: do Reform California, I was in politics and Nathan Fletcher 431 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: ran against me for mayor. The Republican Party, the big 432 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: wigs like Governor Pete Wilson and a lot of the 433 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: big donors. Initially, we're very excited about him because he 434 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: seemed to have it all. He had the marine background, 435 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: the family man. He was married to Mindy Fletcher, who 436 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: was George W. Bush's communications director. So he was Republican 437 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: through and through, and I said, no, I think the 438 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: guys of fraud. And we had heard that he was 439 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: philandering on Mindy Fletcher for years with even staff members. 440 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: Is what we have heard. In fact, I do know 441 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: of one staff member who just simply did not want 442 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: to come forward, and this was in two thousand and eight, 443 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: who he had a relationship with, inappropriate relationship. So when 444 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: twenty twelve rolls around, he leaves the Republican Party. He 445 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: then joins the Democrats, he runs from mayor again, he loses, 446 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: and then we find out that he was having a 447 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: fair with Lorna Gonzalez the whole time. So he divorces 448 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: his Republican wife because she's no longer politically useful to him, 449 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: and he marries Lorna Gonzalez. This guy, you can't you 450 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: cannot overstate what a scum of the earth this guy is. 451 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: There is no integrity, there's no faithfulness. When his lips 452 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: are moving, he is lying. And yet the media down 453 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: here in San Diego, Oh, he is such the toast 454 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: of the town. To the liberal media outlets in San Diego, 455 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: they've never wanted to call him out on it. Now 456 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: it's biting them in the rear end. Now he's resigning 457 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: from the Board of Supervisors. But what's the word on 458 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: her about her in her position at the California Labor Federation. 459 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: Is anybody looking into this? Well, so a couple of things. 460 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: He says he's going to resign, but not until May 461 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: fifteenth because he wants to get more money about it 462 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: means that he'll get about thirty grand extra in salary 463 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: and benefits. And on top of that, he still has 464 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: a security detail, which no one in the history of 465 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: San Diego County supervisors to security detail. He pays one 466 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars of taxpayer money for a security detail 467 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: every month. Um, it's two millions since the whole program 468 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: began in secret. So we don't know about the security 469 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: detail and everything. So he may or may not resign 470 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: on because there's a story about it. So the county 471 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: is paying for private security for Fletcher, Yes, for two 472 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: million dollars. Know about it? Two million dollarbody knew about it? Yep. 473 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: He basically went behind closed doors and told the CEO 474 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: of the county, the chief administrative officer, that my life 475 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: is under a threat, and you're gonna have to do 476 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: security for me. The sheriffs said they didn't want to 477 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: have anything to do with it because the sheriff is 478 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: an independently elected position, and the sheriff said, I will 479 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: not put law enforcement on something that basically is a 480 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: chauffeur operation for this politician. So they hired private security 481 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: and get that. Get this. Loreena Gonzalez Um is the 482 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: labor boss for California, and Nathan Fletcher's private security company 483 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: did allegedly, in a lawsuit that was filed last week, 484 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: didn't pay overtime to the police officers or to the 485 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: security guards. So in Lorena Strong, these guys along saying, 486 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: you know, we'll get to you. We'll get to you. 487 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: And so this guy who was damaged filed a lawsuit. 488 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't make this crap up. We gotta 489 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: have the labor union boss who basically is breaking every 490 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: labor law, Carl, we gotta go. I have a feeling 491 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: we go on for quite some time, but I think 492 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: Nathan Fletcher's gonna be staying in the news for quite 493 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: some scient time. So we'll talk to you again. I'm sutly, guys, 494 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: take her, all right, all right called Dubio from a 495 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: form California. John and Ken chun k I AM six 496 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere in the iHeart Radio app. You're listening 497 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: to John and Ken on demand from kf I AM sixty. 498 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: John Capal, the president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, 499 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: will be joining us next hour. He's in town and 500 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: wanted an opportunity to bring us up to date on 501 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: the horrific tax situation the state of California. And of 502 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: course we're rolling with a deficit, so what could that 503 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: mean in Sacramento to raise your taxes on something. All 504 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: of this comes up in the two o'clock hour. Trump 505 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: has arrived in New York City. The circus tomorrow with 506 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: his arrayment in a Manhattan courtroom will of course be intense, 507 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: ridiculous over the top media coverage. What matters more to 508 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: you whether or not Trump's indicted or they're letting all 509 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: the prisoners go in LA Counties. They can come and 510 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: stab you. I mean, really, I wish people would have 511 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: more perspective. Really, pay attention to our lead story today 512 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: that the Board of Supervisor wants to release most of 513 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: the prisoners in the LA County jails. It includes the 514 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: violet ones they don't consider violent, but you do if 515 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: anybody with fifty thousand dollars of bail on them or less, 516 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: including people who've got a child porn collection, people who've 517 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: beat up their wives and girlfriends, people who have illegal guns, 518 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: who have assaulted with a gun, among other violent crimes. 519 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: All right, so that withdrawn, That idea has been withdrawn 520 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: for now from the LA County Boarder Supervisors meeting tomorrow. 521 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: But you can bet did you can't make it go 522 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: away now. This is a ten year plan that they've 523 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: already had this update. Look who's still alive and making 524 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: a comeback, Kevin di Leone. The recall effort has officially failed. 525 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: That's it. It's this is the third time this lady's 526 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: tried this. We tried to get her on the air. 527 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: I think she's kind of weird. Nobody else really wanted 528 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: to try out. Did we had one de leone recall 529 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: character on? Remember, Yeah, he's part of the campaign. I asked. 530 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: I just had to ask Gray the other day to 531 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: reach out to try to get him back on, but 532 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: there was really no response. A dial tone. Yeah, Paulin 533 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: and Yatkins is their name, a woman lives in Eagle Rocks. 534 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: She's tried three attempts to put a recall against Dileon 535 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: on the ballot one since the scandal. They had to 536 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: collect twenty one thousand six valid signatures. I don't know 537 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: how close they came. They would have had to turn 538 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: in more than twenty five thousand more. I can tell 539 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: you this when the last time he ran, and he 540 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: only had to run in a primary because he ended 541 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: up with fifty three percent of the vote, so he 542 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: was not in the November election that year was twenty twenty. 543 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: He got twenty five thousand votes. About forty seven thousand 544 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: people voted in that district for La City Council, so 545 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: that may have been a tall task to try to get. Well, Look, 546 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: not all districts are created equal. I mean, this is 547 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: something you won't here discussed anywhere. But here's the honest truth. 548 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: There aren't that many in that district interested in politics. 549 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: They're not interested in voting. Many of them can't vote 550 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: because they're there illegally. Many of them don't speak the language, 551 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: and they have a history of corrupt politicians in that district, 552 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: like this was Jose Weezar's old seat, and he's headed 553 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: to federal prison. Right, So whoever is voting generally votes 554 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: for bad guys in recent years, they don't vote for 555 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: good people. And I don't think that de Leone's district 556 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: is all that upset with him. Otherwise something would have 557 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: happened by now. I cite a poll here registered voters 558 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: in his district fifty eight percent supported recalling them, but 559 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: that didn't pan out in the end. You know, together, 560 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: that's one of those PC questions. You're going to say 561 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: that to the polsters, I guess. So, I'm very upset 562 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: by the racism that was Do they really disagree with it? 563 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: Are they really going to vote against them? Are they 564 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: really going to vote to recall him? You can judge 565 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: people by their actions, not what they say to a 566 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: polster when they want to when they want to look 567 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: politically correct. So a year from now will be the 568 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: next primary for that seat, March of twenty twenty four. 569 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: They don't think there'll be another recall effort before then, 570 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: because that's going to come fast, and then, of course 571 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: his term doesn't expire until December of next year. You don't, 572 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: you know what's fascinating though, This jewel a Wick wrote 573 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: a piece in The La Times about it and said, 574 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: less than six months ago it seemed highly unlikely that 575 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: the embattled politician would finish his term. There were deafening 576 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: calls for his resignation from you. Mostly well, wait, yes, 577 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna do this, exactly what I was going 578 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: to say. The deafening calls were from people who who 579 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: write for the La Times. It was all those editorial 580 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: board activists where they are at the city council meetings. 581 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, if fifty activists who are out of work, 582 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: they're unemployed and they get paid to go scream at 583 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: a meeting, and then you had the nullos on the 584 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: La Times editorial board. Outside of that, there was nobody 585 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: calling for his for his resignation. They create their own 586 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: noise and they say, oh, we've thought he was a 587 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: dead man with all the noise going on. It was 588 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 1: your noise. It wasn't the noise of normal people. Normal 589 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: people don't care to follow these stories. When we returned, 590 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: our guests will be John Copal, the president of the 591 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, John A. Ken K I AM 592 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: six forty were live everywhere the iHeartRadio app and you 593 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: remark lot in the twenty four hour Cafe Newsroom. Hey, 594 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. You 595 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: can always hear us live on caf i Am six 596 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 597 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app