1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome in. Appreciate all of you. Hang it out with all. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Of us as the chaos continues. Tuesday edition, Clay Travis 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you that are spending 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: time with us. We got breaking news, as it feels 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: like we have every day for a very long series 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: of days. The failed Secret Service Director Kim Cheadle, who 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: was ridiculed on a bipartisan basis for her failure surrounding 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: the Butler Pennsylvania shooting that occurred. What feels like what 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: ten days ago now, I mean, it's hard to even 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: kind of put it all into context. How quickly all 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: of this has happened. She has now resigned. She is 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: out of a job. It took her far too long 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: to resign. The Biden administration has put out a statement 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: thanking her for her incredible work and for her willingness 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: to resign. But we didn't talk a ton about the 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: hearing yesterday because. 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: It was going on while we were live on the show. 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: But it basically became untenable, and to the credit of 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: Democrats and Republicans, everyone lined up and just said this 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: is absolutely unacceptable, what is going on and teed off 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: against it. Continuing, Here is Speaker Mike Johnson, who came 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: on with us Thursday and demanded that Cheetle resign. Reacting 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: to that resignation that now has happened, here is cut one. 24 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: Our reaction, the immediate reaction to her resignation is that 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: it is overdue. She should have done this at least 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: a week ago. I'm happy to see that. I'm happy 27 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: to see that she is heed at the call of 28 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: both Republicans and Democrats. Now we have to pick up 29 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: the pieces. We have to rebuild the American people's faith 30 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: and trust in the Secret Service as an agency. It 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: has an incredibly important responsibility and protecting presidents, former presidents 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: and other officials in the executive branch. And we've got 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: a lot of work to do. The task force that 34 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: we've been putting together is going to be very important. 35 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: As I said, they have three responsibilities. To investigate what happened, 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: the debacle that happened two saturdays ago, to hold those accountable. 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: It certainly was the director Cheetle, but there may be 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: others in the line of authority who are also culpable 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: and what happened and the errors of mistakes there. And 40 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: finally to ensure that those mistakes do not happen again. 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so this was inevitable that this fire. It should 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: have been firing, right. We don't know where Biden is 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: for six days. He's vanished. I hope we'll bring back 44 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: the actual meritocracy when it comes to protecting our president, 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: whether it's a Democrat, Republican, independent, whomever it might be, 46 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: in the years ahead. This was the biggest failure since 47 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: eighty one. The fact that it took this along was indefensible, 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: but this was the right result at least. It seems, 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: though still that the only person Joe Biden can fire 50 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: is himself. But your reaction to the Secret Service director 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: finally being done with this job book, it's. 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: The obvious outcome, meaning it's obviously what should have happened, 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 4: and so that's a good thing. I think it was 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: also inevitable. I think as much as she was getting 55 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: beaten up on a bit, deservedly so, but beaten up 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: on a bit yesterday, I think when it became clear 57 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: that the head of the Secret Service, you know in 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: the line. I don't know if we have it for today, 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: but you know, well what happened to the Secret Service 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: after Reagan got shot. They're like, oh, he stayed. No, 61 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: actually he got fired, asked to resign and fired. When 62 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: we're in government, I think you can use these pretty interchangeably. Really, 63 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: no one gets fired anymore, I think unless you're going 64 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: to be criminally prosecuted. And even then, look at it. 65 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: Do we have an update on Mendez? By the way, 66 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: we should dive into that guy. 67 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: He still technically is a senator. I don't think they 68 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: forced him out at all, even though he's convicted. I mean, 69 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: there was a demand that he resigned, But unlike Santos, 70 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: who immediately gets kicked out on the House side, Democrats 71 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: keep their felons because has Santos even been convicted yet? 72 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: Has Santos even been convicted yet? No, that case hasn't 73 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: even gone to trial, right, has it. 74 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: No, Santos was convicted of like lying about being on 75 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: the men's volleyball team and having Jewish ancestry or something. Look, 76 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: it's not stuff that you should be lying about. I'm 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 4: not saying it's not weird. But you know, he's not 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 4: selling out his car, he's. 79 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: Not a convicted felon. He didn't have gold bars from 80 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: foreign interest inside of his home. 81 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Based on the work that he had done for them. 82 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: So here's what I see on the on the secret 83 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: Service side of the oks. I've been thinking a lot 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: about it. I think I think everyone has been thinking 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: a lot about it. And it really is as though 86 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: if the country were a person with you know, their 87 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: their air pods in and walking down the street with 88 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: some music playing in your ears, and we walked right 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: up to the curb and just stopped for a second 90 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 4: to look, and a you know, a dump truck going 91 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: eighty miles an hour just shave the end of our nose. 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 4: I mean, that is how close we came as a 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: country to political cataclysm. And I think that that really 94 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: stays with you. I mean there's the relief and the 95 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: sense of God's grace that Trump is okay, but we 96 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: can't forget. I mean, it was a literal inch from 97 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: being anything but okay. So I think the country is 98 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: still processing that as we're also processing the fact that 99 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: it's really a new election now, Clay, I mean, we 100 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 4: have to think of it in that context. A vice 101 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: president ascending to the top of the ticket changes all 102 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 4: the So by the way, we could go back and 103 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: talk about some of these dynamics and how this affected 104 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: the Jewish vote and all these things because because in 105 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: my mind, well now with Kamala, you know, it deserves 106 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: a reassessment, right, I mean you have to look at 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: how they're going to position this new candidate. But just 108 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: on the Secret Service aspect of this, I don't know 109 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: how much reform you're really going to get out of this, 110 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: because there's a let here's what I mean, nine to 111 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 4: eleven happened. And with nine to eleven, yes, there was 112 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: failures of intelligence sharing. They called it stove piping where 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: and they still do this all the time, just you know, 114 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: I mean, or at least they were doing what I 115 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: was in not going to tell this agency this is 116 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: our equities, they would say, in our area of control. 117 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: We're not going to share this information. It's too sensitive 118 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: to give it to you know, DA, or too sensitive 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: to give it to FBI or whatever, right, nsay, you 120 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 4: name it. But what they did was what those terrorists 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: did on that day was devious, but showed a lot 122 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: and showed a lot of ingenuity and showed a real 123 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 4: understanding of how to get around are admittedly weak security procedures. 124 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: But it was something new. The Secret service. 125 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 4: You know, they caught us napping, but they did have 126 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: to get creative, like the evildoers had to get creative 127 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 4: on nine to eleven. This secret service, Clay failed in 128 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: the most blatant, obvious, straightforward way imaginable. 129 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: So I have to wonder. 130 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 4: I'm sure you'll come back and say, we need better, 131 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: We need better communication with local law enforcement. That's going 132 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: to be now. You know, local law enforcement has said 133 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: that they weren't They were basically just checking in cars, 134 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: which I just note that is what local law enforcement should. 135 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Bet to what they should be doing. In a bit 136 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: like that. 137 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 2: You don't want the random local police department in charge 138 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: of setting up the safety of the president of. 139 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: The United States. I understand. 140 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: You know there are former badass Marines who then go 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: into law enforcement, and maybe they'll go to a small town. 142 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: I understand that's real. So you have to call in 143 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: and yell at me and be like I could shoot 144 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, the wings off a fly at one hundred yards. 145 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: Most small town departments have very limited training budgets. When 146 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: I mean limited training budgets, they don't pay for AMMO 147 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: for their cops to go shoot more than you know, 148 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: once or twice a year. Okay, they're not meant to 149 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: take on a threat at one hundred yards, five hundred 150 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: yards anything like that. Okay, So with that in mind, 151 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: all my point play about the Secret Service failure here 152 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: is some twenty year old got up on the roof 153 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: in the most obvious place possible and was able to 154 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: set up with a range finder and take a shot 155 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: and put a shot on target and hit the president 156 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: in the head, basically in the ear. 157 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, what are they gonna say for the future. 158 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 4: Don't let the assassin just walk up on the nearest building, 159 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: set up like he's got plenty of time, and take 160 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: multiple aim shots at an undefended president. I mean, it's 161 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: so obvious and so horrific the failure that I don't 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: know other than like, we're not gonna be so dumb 163 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: in the future. 164 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying. 165 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 4: It's not there's not like a change in procedure that 166 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 4: needs to happen other than don't suck at your job. 167 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you and I had been there doing a 168 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: site visit, we would have been like, okay, let's get 169 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: snipers on top of these one hundred proofs everywhere. 170 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: That would have been like the first thing we would 171 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: think to do. 172 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: That's why I said, this to me, is a bigger 173 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: failure than what happened in nineteen eighty one when Reagan 174 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: got shot. Because you're in a sidewalk, a guy's got 175 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: a handgun. That is more of a scramble, difficult to 176 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: stop situation. And I think it's more of a failure 177 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: than what happened to JFK. 178 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: People say, what do you mean. 179 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: JFK was shot, but nobody was pointing up at Lee, 180 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: Harvey Oswald or whomever. 181 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: If there were multiple shooters. 182 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: Saying, hey, that guy has a gun, we should do 183 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: something about him. For ten minutes before JFK came through 184 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: in Dealey Plaza, they knew this guy had a gun. 185 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: They knew there was danger. I mean the time, the 186 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: timeframe that we had. I flagged this and I mentioned 187 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: it to Don Junior last week Buck when we had 188 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: him on. But I do think that in many ways, 189 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: because Trump avoided assassination, a lot of people just stopped 190 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: looking at all of the details that surround us. Listen 191 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: to this time Listen to this timeframe. At five ten pm, 192 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: Crooks was identified as a person of interest. You know 193 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: this Buck, most of you out there know this too. 194 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: It's hard to get noticed as a suspicious guy in 195 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: a crowd of tens of thousands of people, right, Like, 196 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: that's relatively hard for you to be isolated at People say, hey, 197 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: there's something wrong with this guy. At five point thirty, 198 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: he had a rangefinder. I'm sorry, why are we allowing 199 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 2: people with rangefinders into events like this? I mean, it's 200 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: not a golf course, you know, You're not like, you know, binoculars. 201 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: Maybe rangefinder, that's very different. At five point fifty two, 202 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: he was on the roof, spotted by the Secret Service. 203 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Ten minutes later Trump. 204 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: Took the stage. So they saw this guy on the 205 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: roof for ten minutes before Trump took the stage. He 206 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: didn't fire his first shot until six twelve, twenty minutes 207 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: after they noticed him for the first time on the 208 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: on the roof. I mean, this is like incompetence on 209 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: a level that I don't think just Kim Cheatle getting 210 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: fired is enough. And by the way, in her testimony, Buck, 211 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: she didn't say, hey, there was only one shooter. I 212 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: understand that this shooter is, you know, twenty years old 213 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: then clearly probably had mental issues. But the fact that 214 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: they have been unable to figure out how and why 215 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: he was able to do this is not helping at all. 216 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: The consterio theories what happened with what with her whole approach. 217 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 4: The approach here was what I've always called the bureaucratic 218 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: slow roll. She was saying yesterday, I think even AOC, 219 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: that's how bad the security failure is. Even AOC is like, yeah, 220 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: you should have done better. I mean it's pretty outrageous. Right, 221 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: sixty days they needed for the investigation to be complete 222 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: about what happened. Now you can say the investigation is 223 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: going to be completed in sixty days. You have to 224 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 4: have all necessary pertinent information ready for this hearing ready, 225 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: you know, good to go. You can't say I don't know, 226 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: we'll know in sixty days, all right, we got to 227 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: pay vigration underway. 228 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: Even AOC went off on that and said, sixty days 229 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: is unacceptable. Right, when AOC is making sense, you have 230 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: to acknowledge how much of a failure it is. 231 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, just because AOC says it doesn't make it wrong. 232 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: I will admit this. She was totally right, sixty days 233 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: is insane. So I think that it's Look, I feel 234 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 4: badly for the people in the secret serve. This is 235 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 4: always what happens, right, You feel badly for the guys 236 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: and gals who you know, rank and file are showing 237 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: up to do the job every day. I mean I 238 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: even still get Clay, I mean I get people will 239 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: give me a hard time of being in the CIA, 240 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I showed up every day. And our 241 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: job was basically try to help find and kill all 242 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 4: Kaida members. 243 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: That was the job. 244 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 4: Pretty important job after nine to eleven, Like we we 245 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: actually didn't have a lot of politics in the office 246 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: and CTC was let's find terrorists before they can strap 247 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: you know, bombs with ball bearings to themselves and kill 248 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 4: as many women and children as possible. 249 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: Like it was a strange, but you. 250 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: Know, because of what what you know, James Comy did, 251 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: and then what the CIA director did, and what the 252 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: you know and d and I Clapper, all these guys 253 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: Brennan at the CIA. People think that that then means 254 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: everybody who works at these places is somehow part of 255 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: like the deep state conspiration. It's not, that's not true. 256 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 4: The entity the organization can be rotten, but that doesn't 257 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: mean that everybody doesn't mean that they're not affected by it, 258 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 4: but they're not rotten as well. I mean, I thought 259 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: it was very given that it's his father we're talking 260 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 4: about here that was in the crosshairs, the the actual crossairs, 261 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: you know. Eric Trump even said that the female Secret 262 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: Service agent who was just being I mean, she spent 263 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 4: forty eight hours mocked more than almost anybody I've seen. 264 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: All a year. 265 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean really being mocked, like he said. 266 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 4: He said that she's a great person and a great shot, 267 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 4: and that that was unfair, you know what I mean. 268 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: So I feel badly for the Secret Service agents. But 269 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 4: the Secret Service as an entity has to have in 270 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: a spree decorps has to have an accountability that this 271 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: can you know, the mission has to be never again, 272 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: something like this the way never again was the mission 273 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: for the CIA and FBI after nine to eleven, You 274 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: know what I mean. There has to be a mindset 275 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: shift where there's a redoubled effort. And I think under 276 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: a swamp drained Trump administration, you. 277 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: Might get that might want to check the transcripts Flagg 278 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: this one. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio 310 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 311 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: Let's take a look at this new presidential election that 312 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: we are faced with. Here, you could say, Clay, that 313 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: we should take a look at what can be unburdened 314 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: by what has been. I guess the burden was Joe 315 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: Biden and the campaign is no longer burdened with Biden. 316 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: That is Kamala's favorite phrase. In case he did not know. 317 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: I'm sure we can find a super cut somewhere of 318 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: her saying that all the time, a phrase that she 319 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 4: uses constantly that I had. 320 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: Never heard before ever. 321 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: Actually I've never heard someone talking about what can be 322 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: unburdened by what has been, but Kama loves it. 323 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: So we will get into. 324 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: Some of that also, how to handle from the Republican 325 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: side of things from the Trump side of things, how 326 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: to handle her past, and all the rest of it. 327 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 4: She is making her first public appearances. Let's get to 328 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: cut eight here. Team here. She is the VP saying 329 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: it's a rollercoast, mixed emotions, but we love Joe Biden, 330 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: play it, and I. 331 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 6: Know it's been a rollercoaster, and we're all filled with 332 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 6: so many mixed emotions about this. 333 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 7: I just have to say, I love Joe Biden. 334 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 6: I love Joe Biden, and I know we all do, 335 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 6: and we have so many darn good reasons for loving 336 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 6: Joe Biden, and I have full faith that this team 337 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 6: is the team will be the reason we win in November. 338 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 4: She is cringe inducing, even when she's saying things that 339 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: should be very straightforward. Clay, I think that the same 340 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: Democrat capacity to fool themselves into the belief that Joe 341 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: Biden does not have sinility. I think that same capacity 342 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: for delusion is what is present when they're making it 343 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: sound like they believe Kamala Harris and we'll play some 344 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: of those clubs later is a great politician. No one 345 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: really could possibly think. 346 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: That it is so weird in the political sphere to 347 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: have this happen. She traveled to Wilmington, Delaware, a state 348 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: probably that she spent almost no time in prior to 349 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: becoming vice president. Because Joe Biden's from Delaware, she is 350 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: now stepping in. They have completely swept out all mention 351 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: of Biden. She is keeping the same campaign team, same 352 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: campaign headquarters, everything except now she is the head of 353 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: the ticket. Joe Biden is kicked to the curb, doesn't 354 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: basically exist as a part of this ticket anymore. And 355 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: we have to figure out who she's going to pick 356 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: as vice president. This happens all the time in sports. 357 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: That's the only analogy I can think of. It doesn't 358 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: happen very often in politics, where the head coach gets 359 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: fired and immediately the new head coach steps in, oftentimes 360 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 2: on his staff with everybody else the same players, management structure, 361 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: and suddenly says, hey, I'm the new guy, and everybody 362 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: just starts clapping for that person instead. I mean, this 363 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: is range. Now she's got to pick who her VP 364 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: is going to be. Two favorites right now, according to reporting, 365 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: appear to be Mark Kelly, the astronaut senator from Arizona, 366 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: and who I believe beat Blake Masters by two or 367 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: three points? Am I correcting that in twenty twenty two 368 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: to win re election? And the who I think she's 369 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: gonna pick the Governor of Pennsylvania, Jos Shapiro. So she's 370 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: gonna pick it appears one of those two are favored. 371 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 4: I think you're leaving out your buddy. I think getting 372 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 4: uh Basher. I think Basher is because here's how, here's how. 373 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: Let's let's do this. 374 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: Now, shall we break down the VP stakes once again? 375 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: The viepstakes? We got at least we know that Jade 376 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 4: Vince is the Republican vice presidential nominee. Here's what I see, Clay, 377 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: if you have a future as a Democrat running for 378 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: the top job, you do not want to be in 379 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 4: the number two slot on this Kamala ticket right now, 380 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: because you're just going down. 381 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: With a big l. 382 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: You're taking the loss here. Not a good move. So 383 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 4: that's why Gretchen Whittmer has already made it clear she's like, 384 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 4: I endorse Kamla. I'm not gonna take the VP job 385 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: full stop. That's the smart move. By the way, I 386 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 4: think that Whitmer pains me to say this. I think 387 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: she could be formidable member we're not getting Trump again, everybody, 388 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: this is our last well I mean, assuming he wins 389 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 4: he doesn't run again, but or you know, if he 390 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: didn't win and he ran again. But this is our 391 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: last shot of Trump. Let's say we get Trump in, 392 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: we got to come up with somebody else. I think 393 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 4: jad Vance, you know, is top of the list right now, 394 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 4: but there'll be others. I think Gretchen Whitmer will be 395 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: formidable on her own in twenty twenty eight in that 396 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: election cycle which starts in twenty twenty six. Same thing 397 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 4: applies for Gavin Newsom, at least in his own mind. 398 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Clay. 399 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: I think he believes he's formidable for the top job 400 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 4: and wants to run. And there are a whole bunch 401 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: of other names. I won't go through all of them, 402 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: but you're not hearing about them as Kamala VP slot. 403 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: Why because the people that are gonna take the Kamala 404 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 4: v pea slot for them, it's a shot at being 405 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: a VP. They're never going to be president and they 406 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: probably would never be a VP on another Democrat ticket. 407 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: So this is the best they could ever really realistically 408 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: hope for. And that's where I think you get Asher 409 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: in Kentucky because they're balancing out Kama's a far left 410 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: wing candidate everybody. She's a progressive from California except on 411 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: one issue, and we should talk about that. On the 412 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: criminal justice thing, we should get to that. 413 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: I see. 414 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: I think Gretchen Whitmer knows she's not going to be 415 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: picked because they're not going to go with an all 416 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: female ticket. So I think she's pulling herself out of 417 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: the running in advance because I don't think a female 418 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: I've never like, why not an all female ticket just 419 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: based on their gender? 420 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that as. 421 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: I think that they have decided that Kamala Harris needs 422 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: to have I'm just telling you, I think they've decided 423 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: she needs to have a guy, and I think they 424 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: want like the blandest, whitest guy possible to try to 425 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: make that ticket more or palatable for these Midwestern voters. Now, 426 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: I think Josh Shapiro, who is Jewish, this is Jewish 427 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: is a problem for Kamala on the left side in 428 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: Michigan and offer all the reasons. 429 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: That you find. 430 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: I am fascinated by that. CNN came on and said 431 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: that she would be in trouble potentially in Michigan. 432 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: If she picked a Jewish running mate, she. 433 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 4: Might be seeding Michigan to try to win Pennsylvania. That 434 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 4: may be the count And that. 435 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: Is, by the way, a sign of how anti semitic 436 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: some of the base of the Democrat Party is, because 437 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: you wouldn't say, if Josh Shapiro was a Republican, I 438 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: would have been beating the table Trump should pick him 439 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 2: as the VP. If you had a popular Republican governor 440 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, Jewish, whatever he is, it would have been 441 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: a no brainer for Trump to pick him because that 442 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: would make it more likely that Trump would win Pennsylvania. 443 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: And if Trump wins Pennsylvania, there is no pathway for 444 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: Democrats to win this election. 445 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: So the fact that they said. 446 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: This on cn N, they pointed out, hey, a Jewish 447 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: running mate could be an issue. There are already people 448 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: saying Kamala's Jewish husband could potentially be an issue for her. 449 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: That's how anti semitic the left is. If that's true, Buck, 450 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: then I think Mark Kelly would be the pick. The 451 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 2: question is is he strong enough in Arizona to flip 452 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: that state back from right now Trump being in the 453 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: lead to maintain it and the Democrat camp. 454 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 4: So my sense is that I think the likeliest pick 455 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: is Mark Kelly, but I think that Bashir is right 456 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: behind him because he does that whole russ Belt appeal 457 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 4: to the middle of America thing that Kamala is going 458 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 4: to need to be competitive in any even vaguely competitive 459 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 4: in any of those key swing states throughout the Midwest. 460 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 4: So I think those are those are the likely options 461 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: you have. I also think that once again, the VP 462 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 4: tends to be an exaggerated part of a of a ticket. 463 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: In terms of the election, I think that this is 464 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: going to be a Kamala Trump election or Trump Kamala election, 465 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 4: and that's the likeliest way that this You know that 466 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 4: that's the only way that this thing is going to 467 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 4: be determined. 468 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting too, though, because. 469 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: I disagree and I'm hearing that the GOP is going 470 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 4: to is going to attack her on this and I 471 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: disagree with it. Here's Kamala Harris talking about when she 472 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: was a prosecutor in San Francisco. This has cut nine 473 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: play it. 474 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 6: You know, as many of you know, before I was 475 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 6: elected as Vice president, before I was elected as United 476 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 6: States Senator, I was the elected attorney general that mentioned 477 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 6: a California and before that that was a courtroom prosecutor. 478 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 6: In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all. 479 00:24:52,000 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 8: Kinds, creditors who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers, 480 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 8: cheeters who broke the rules for their own game. So 481 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 8: hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump's. 482 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: Type all right now, put aside the like that thing. 483 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: I think it is a. 484 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: Mistake if the GOP starts going after Kamala for being 485 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 4: tough on crime, put aside the Trump component of this. 486 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: And they did this a little bit during the primary 487 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. There was that people say they call 488 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 4: her cop Kamala because she was, like, you know, a 489 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 4: cop going around arresting everybody for for weed and things 490 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 4: like that. That is a mistake. She is a far 491 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 4: leftist progressive from California. She raised money for BLM rioters 492 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: in her own name. Do not GOP staffers, Capitol Hill 493 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 4: list to me. RNC people listen to me. Do not 494 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: make Kamala seem like she used to be a badass 495 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: on crime. Very very dumb point out that she is 496 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 4: a progressive leftist who is fine with Soros, Das all 497 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: over the country and was all about rioting during BLM. 498 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 4: Do you see what I mean? I think this is 499 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: because they've done that. They've gone the wrong direction in 500 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 4: this in the past against Kamala. It also forces you 501 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: to be hitting her on two different sides. The way 502 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: to attack her, I agree with you, is to say 503 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 4: she moved from a prosecutor who believed criminals should be 504 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: put in prison to someone who believes there should be 505 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 4: no consequences for committing crimes. She is too soft on crime. 506 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 4: She used to be right. 507 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: I mean, the way I would address it buck is 508 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: the same way Joe Biden was right in nineteen ninety 509 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: four on the crime bill he was He was one 510 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: hundred percent right. It might be the only thing he 511 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: got right in his entire political career. He turned his 512 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: back on the tough on crime bills in order to 513 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: be elected in twenty twenty. 514 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: Kamala is actually far worse than Biden. 515 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: Because Biden was an adroit enough politician, never too specifically 516 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: called to defund the police. Kamala is on tape saying 517 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: we need to defund the police. The way to attack 518 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 2: her is there. Biden was actually a better candidate. I 519 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: think on this issue because he was never crazy enough 520 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: to give all of his support to the far left 521 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: wing idea of defunding the police. Kamala was She's not 522 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: as skilled a politician as Joe Biden, and actually is 523 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: one of the reasons that Joe Biden became the nominee 524 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: and then the president in twenty twenty is that he 525 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: did not totally go off the cliff with the BLM. 526 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: You rioting, defund the police, abolish prisons, Democrat lunacy of 527 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: that year. He let the shock troops. He's not opposed 528 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: to it, don't get me wrong. 529 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 4: He let the shock troops of the Democrat Party do 530 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 4: what they do and mobilize and terrorize, but he knew 531 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 4: for his own purposes, don't go along with that. Let 532 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 4: Antifa be Antifa, but I pretend to be lunch pale 533 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 4: Joe who rides the chow chow with the union members 534 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: and everything else. Right, I mean, that's that was the 535 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 4: whole game. Kamala went along with it because Kamala has 536 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: to play the race politics angle for her own reasons. 537 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: So Kamala was all BLM, and Kamala was supporting the 538 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: rioters and saying you get them money to get them 539 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: out of jail at all this stuff. Hate her on 540 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: that because I have already seen early indications they're gonna say, oh, well, 541 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: Kamala used to lock people up for weed. Kamala locking 542 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: people up is a good thing. Okay, Yeah, we want 543 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: more of the locking people up for breaking the law. 544 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: I mean, not obviously for just having some weed, but 545 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: that's not what really was going on. 546 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: We come back, I'll answer your question about how aggressive 547 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 2: Trump should be on going after Kamala for this sixty 548 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: year old married man relationship, because I think I've got 549 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: the answer. 550 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell we're gonna. We're gonna. 551 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: We might end up pointing counterpoint on this one, because 552 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 4: I don't think we see this one the same way. 553 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: We'll come back to down a second. Everybody, get ready 554 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: for it. Look when a brilliant ceo foregoes his salary 555 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: in lieu of a new form of compensation and then 556 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 4: wants to tell you about it, something good is happening 557 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: and you want to hear it. 558 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Right. 559 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 4: The ceo is Porter Stansbury. He's a friend of mine, 560 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 4: a business partner, and he chose to reduce his salary 561 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: to just a dollar and earn the rest of his 562 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: income in a new form. He's ready and willing to 563 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: share how he does this in a new video online 564 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 4: for you to hear his words firsthand. He's doing it 565 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 4: because he wants you to consider doing the same thing 566 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: he does. He's a smart economist, brilliant businessman. I'm telling you. 567 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 4: Porter says he sees a new form of money in 568 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: America making some people very wealthy. You don't need to 569 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 4: be a CEO to obtain this new kind of compensation. 570 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 4: Thousands of Americans in different full time roles have already 571 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 4: started to be compensated in this new form. You'll learn 572 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: that and much more in a detailed video you'll find online. 573 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: Every American is legally entitled to use this not so 574 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 4: well known currency, but few know much about it. But 575 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 4: Porter is hoping to change that. Check out his latest 576 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: detailed presentation online at secret Currency twenty twenty four dot com. 577 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: You won't see this opportunity discussed anywhere else. Go to 578 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 4: secret Currency twenty twenty four dot com. That's Secret Currency 579 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four dot com. 580 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 5: Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis 581 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 5: and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 582 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your podcast. 583 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 4: We mentioned Kamala Harris's favorite praise before. He might be 584 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 4: wondering he's been unfair to just point this out. Is 585 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: she really using it that much? Or we exaggerating? 586 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. 587 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 4: You tell me how many times have you heard that phrase? 588 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: And then how many times will we hear it right now? 589 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: In public pronouncements from Kamala Harris? Play it what can be? 590 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 7: What should be unburdened by what has been? 591 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 9: What can be unburdened by what has been? 592 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 7: What can be unburdened by what has been? See what 593 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 7: can be unburdened by what has been? 594 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 8: What can be unburdened by what has been? 595 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 7: What can be unburdened by what has been? Unburdened by 596 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 7: what has been? And knowing what can be, have a 597 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 7: sense of vision about what can be unburdened by what 598 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 7: has been. There are those who are unable to see 599 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 7: what can be, but there are many more who are 600 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 7: able to see what can be unburdened by what has been. 601 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 4: I mean, she could also just say the past doesn't 602 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 4: determine the future. I mean, there's a lot of ways 603 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: that if she felt like, but that is clearly her favorite, 604 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: her favorite phrase. 605 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: That is there her marquee phrase that everyone, it's not 606 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: even a good phrase. 607 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: It's not hard to even understand it, right, like we're 608 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: not Yeah, your point, the past doesn't dictate the future 609 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: is something that everybody understands, like this is just a 610 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: gobbling goook phrase that actually is hard to even work through. 611 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I sit here, and I honestly, it's the kind 612 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 4: of phrase that a person who has been padded on 613 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 4: the back and told oh, you're so smart and great 614 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: well everyone you know, her whole professional life while everyone 615 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: was like what the heck was that? It's kind of 616 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 4: phrase somebody like that would keep using because no one 617 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: will tell me, like what are you doing? 618 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: What is that even? 619 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: And I think that that speaks very much to the 620 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 4: reality of Kamala Harris. So this is Look, I'm sure 621 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: you saw David Sacks who was on with us during 622 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: the RNC. He's a one of the you know, big 623 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 4: big dogs out of Silicon Valley, one of the big 624 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 4: boys out of Silicon Valley. They do with their own 625 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 4: podcast over there all in he said that he tweeted 626 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: this out. According to Axios, Biden didn't want to drop out, 627 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: in part because Harris wasn't up the taking on Trump. 628 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 4: Democrats ignored this concern because they were so eager to 629 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: dump by. But I suspect Biden will be proven correct 630 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 4: in the weeks ahead and Democrats will have buyers or 631 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: more so, he said that that was just a few 632 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 4: hours after our show yesterday, And remember what I said 633 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 4: on the show yesterday. They will rue the day. I 634 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 4: think Democrats have made a huge mistake, and I don't 635 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 4: think that anyone would accuse me of being mister optimism 636 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 4: and politics usually about you know what our sides. I 637 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 4: think that the Kamala Harris decision is going to go 638 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 4: down as one of the one of the additional self 639 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: inflicted wounds of the Democrat Party in this election cycle. 640 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: Here's my concern on Kamala. They ran the Biden basement 641 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: campaign in twenty twenty and it worked. They only have 642 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: to hide Kamala from herself for like the next twelve weeks. 643 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: So I don't know how active she's gonna be on 644 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: the campaign trail, and I don't know to what extent 645 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: anybody's gonna hold her accountable. Remember it's crazy buck in 646 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: six weeks people start voting. Four of those days are 647 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: the DNC. They're going to write her a probably decent 648 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 2: speech that she's going to deliver well off of the teleprompter, 649 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: and then we'll be right there boom, people will start voting. 650 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: I see what you're saying, but I would put this 651 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: into the mix as well. They were able to run 652 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: Biden in twenty twenty based on the perception that people 653 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 4: had of Biden from twenty ten or maybe even the 654 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 4: year two thousand, Right, Biden's this old white guy's been 655 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: around forever. Everybody kind of knows him, who follows politics 656 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 4: at all, you know, he's sort of aware of him. 657 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: And by putting him in the basement, they were able 658 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 4: to hide his primary weakness, which was the obvious physical 659 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 4: and mental frailty that time had done to him, basically, 660 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: I mean the realities of it. Right. Hiding Kamala I 661 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: don't think has the same benefits at all, because Kamala 662 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 4: is they've been hiding kam Laclay as the VP. Really 663 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 4: for the last four years. They've tried, they've tried again 664 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 4: and again to make her the heir apparent, to make 665 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: her the next big thing in Democrat politics, and it 666 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 4: has been She's a clay, she's a laughline. She's been 667 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 4: a point of mockery for the Biden team for years now. 668 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, So I get it. I 669 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 4: don't think she can rest on her laurels. She doesn't 670 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 4: have any laurels. 671 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: She's gonna show up and deliver the speech that they 672 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 2: wrote for her well in Chicago. They're going to roll 673 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: out all of the Democrat heavyweights to talk about what 674 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: a genius she is for four straight days. Then they're 675 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: going to have at least one debate, and she's not 676 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: going to basically die on the stage like Joe Biden did. 677 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: And they're all going to line up on MSNBC and 678 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: CNN and they're going to talk about what an incredible 679 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: intellectual heavyweight she is and how there was no comparison 680 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: at all against Trump. And they are going to hammer 681 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: home any criticism of her as sexist and racist, which 682 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 2: is what every DEI hire does, and she is the 683 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: ultimate DEI higher. They are going to simultaneously convince all 684 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 2: of their emotionally fragile base, many of whom are young women, 685 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: that Trump is going to knock on their door and 686 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: drag them out by their hair if they get accidentally pregnant, 687 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: and the handmade's tail is going to become the real 688 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: life I'm just telling you what they're gonna run. Oh 689 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 2: and they're cocky because fuck in twenty twenty, Joe Biden 690 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 2: was a joke. But they picked him and they ran 691 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,479 Speaker 2: that campaign, and they dragged Joe Biden across that line, 692 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: as you've pointed out to me, So they did have 693 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: cover valid Can I just say, Clay, you're talking about 694 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: the message, and you're and you're right. 695 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 4: I can't you know, I'm not just going to counterpoint 696 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: Clay for the sake of it, right. I mean, he's 697 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 4: right about how they're going to position Kamala, and you're 698 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 4: also I agree. I think this is obvious that they're 699 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 4: going to start already. They have to get the Oh 700 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 4: my gosh, Kama, look at the numbers. Yeah, already out 701 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 4: there now Reuter's IPSOS poll. It's making the rounds. I've 702 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 4: got to dig into it a little bit more to 703 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 4: make sure this is legit. But they're saying Harris forty 704 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 4: four Trump forty two in registered voters as of yesterday. 705 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 4: That's the first I told you this is what they're 706 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: going to find a couple of coursa the momentum has flipped. 707 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: They're going to say, I'm. 708 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 4: Going to tell you right now, I don't believe it. 709 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 4: I don't believe it. Sorry, I don't. I don't see it. 710 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 4: And now you're going to have me saying do we 711 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 4: trust the polls? No, when the polls have shown the 712 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 4: Democrat is going to get absolutely destroyed and now they 713 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 4: have a new candidate and they can completely shape perception 714 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 4: as they see fit based upon the polling that they do. 715 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: Do I try us the polls right now? 716 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 4: No, I'm going to look very closely at them and 717 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 4: ask a lot of questions about how who they're you know, 718 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 4: who they're pulling, how they're doing it, what the questions are, 719 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 4: Because Clay, if they don't convince people that Kamala is 720 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 4: in this thing in the next two weeks, it's basically 721 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 4: over right correct. So so I mean, do you think 722 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 4: they're going to just see the presidency to Donald Trump 723 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks. 724 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't. 725 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 2: No, I don't think they're going to tell you that 726 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 2: Kamal has taken the lead, that this is a brilliant 727 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 2: strategic move that just preparing you for the next week, 728 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: and they will find a couple of polls, they'll get 729 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 2: a little bit of a bump, and then they'll come 730 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: back in a couple of weeks and the numbers will 731 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: come back down and they'll start to panic a little 732 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 2: bit more. But I'm telling you get ready for the 733 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: next week. Kamala has taking the lead. Oh Kamala momentum. 734 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 2: I can write all of the different headlines that you're 735 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 2: going to see at CNN and MSNBC. 736 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: Just get ready. This is what they're gonna do. 737 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: Sports fans, download the Price Picks app right now, so 738 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: much fun to you, America's number one fantasy sports app. 739 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: Five million players plus using it right now, available to 740 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: play in thirty states so far. 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Find it 767 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 5: on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 768 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 4: We got our friend Tammy Bruce in the mix right now. 769 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 4: She is a Fox News contributor, New York Times bestselling author. 770 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 4: Her new book, Fear Itself, just comes out this week. 771 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 4: It is out today, A cop today Today. I say 772 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 4: this week's are technically correct today much yea even better phenomenal. 773 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 4: So Tammy, before we're gonna get into the book in 774 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 4: a second, can I just start. I feel like the 775 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 4: question of the day is now that we know that 776 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 4: until they change, it is Kamala, right, it is Kama 777 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 4: the Republicans face. Are Republicans underestimating Kamala Harris in this contest? 778 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 9: I will remind people of the twenty twenty two midterms. 779 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 9: We were very enthusiastic about that, but you know, the 780 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 9: Republicans do have this ability to snatch defeat out of 781 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 9: the jaws of victory. But what we saw from the 782 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 9: convention is that things have changed to some degree. Well produced, 783 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 9: well organized, The messaging from the Republicans is consistent, and 784 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 9: that is because I think it's fair to say that 785 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 9: Trump has finally coalesced everyone together. And I don't know 786 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 9: if they wanted us to really just love the R 787 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 9: and C. The convention even more when people like Liz 788 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 9: Cheney and Mitt Romney and others said, oh, we're not 789 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 9: going to go, And you notice how well everything ran, 790 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 9: and how it was about people together, caring about the issues, 791 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 9: wanting to make their lives better, wanting to make everybody 792 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 9: else's life better. The message was clear, and of course, 793 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 9: with an injured Trump, it was a remarkable display. So 794 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 9: I think that when it comes to Harris, it is, 795 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 9: you know, just for the Democrats, beware of what you 796 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 9: wish for, because you just might get it. It seems, 797 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 9: you know, people maybe didn't know or had forgotten about 798 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 9: how awful a candidate she was. There are stories out 799 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 9: there from twenty nineteen and onwards that describe the kind 800 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 9: of chaos that surrounded her own campaign, the stories from 801 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 9: twenty one when she was the vice president, and even 802 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 9: recently from the Telegraph, I think today or yesterday about 803 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 9: the nature of her inability to keep staff, because in 804 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,959 Speaker 9: the New York Times, in their coverage old staff saying 805 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 9: that she and staff that had left, saying that she 806 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 9: was a bully, that there was like this soul destroying, 807 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 9: you know, horrible feeling in her office. She was never 808 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 9: engaged so I think she's not changed. They are put 809 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 9: forth the same person who got not one, not one state, 810 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 9: who did not get one vote by herself, is not 811 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 9: liked by the people who work with her. So I 812 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 9: think that this might be a hail Mary pass regarding 813 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 9: the down ballot races, trying to get people in who 814 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 9: are not even going to vote at all, trying at 815 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 9: least even for a few districts, maybe in Wisconsin, maybe 816 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 9: in Michigan, so that some of the House races can 817 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 9: be saved. 818 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: And other than that. 819 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 9: I think it's clear. It's a it's a team and 820 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 9: a party that has been deluded for a long time 821 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 9: and operating exclusively on fear and envy and demonization, and 822 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 9: we're gonna it's that's what They're going to double down 823 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 9: in all of that, and we're gonna And Kamala Harris 824 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 9: already has by making some remarks about Trump being a predator, 825 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 9: so obviously that pledge to tone down the rhetoric. After 826 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 9: the assassination attempt, you know, the Kui gets shot in 827 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 9: the face, so let's start calling him a predator now. 828 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 2: Tammy, big debate on the show today and then I'll 829 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: let you get into the book, Kamala Harris began her 830 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: political career by being twenty nine years old and sleeping 831 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: with sixty year old Willie Brown, who was married the 832 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 2: mayor of San Francisco. Buck Is like, no, do not 833 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 2: touch it. Trump should stay away from it. I say 834 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 2: if Kamala and a potential debate comes after him over 835 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: Stormy Daniels, he should CounterPunch on this. Two parter here 836 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 2: for you is do you think that that is a 837 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: story that would impact married women in particular in terms 838 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 2: of what they think of Kamala Harris? 839 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: Two? 840 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 2: Do you think Trump himself should go anywhere near it? 841 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: Or would you advise him to stay away from it? 842 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: It's true, it's real. 843 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: How do you handle it? 844 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 9: It is? And yet what is moving the American people 845 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 9: are not the personal stories, right. The demonization of Trump 846 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 9: did not work. It was never really about Joe AND's age. 847 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 9: It's about the issues that affect every morning when people 848 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 9: wake up. Do not know what they're going to put 849 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 9: in the kid's lunch box, don't know what the protein's 850 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 9: going to be for dinner, don't know if it's going 851 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 9: to be cereal again? How do you buy ten dollars? 852 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 3: You know? 853 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 9: Pack of eggs, Is there going to be enough gas 854 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 9: in the car, etc. Those are the issues that matter. 855 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 9: She has been have a hand in the destruction of 856 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 9: the ability for the American people to be able to 857 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 9: trust in what the next day will be. So I 858 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 9: would argue, and we saw this from Trump throughout the convention. 859 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 9: He's a funny guy. There are some, you know, remarks 860 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 9: that are personal, that are funny. Many people have been 861 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 9: bringing this up about her, but I can tell you 862 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 9: when they're looking at who can they trust, and already 863 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 9: there's one lie. They're trying to pitch Kamala as you know, 864 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 9: an end to the status quo, and they're doing that 865 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 9: because they know she's part of the problem. She is 866 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 9: the issue, and more so than Biden, because she has 867 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 9: her cognitive abilities are fine, and she's been in that 868 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 9: White House likely considering the leftist rush of this administration 869 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 9: with a big hand in what's happened. So I would 870 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 9: recommend you stay away from the personal and if she 871 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 9: only can do the personal. But I think that Trump's 872 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 9: strength despite everything they've done, the trial, him sitting in 873 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 9: that courtroom, Stormy Daniels on the stand, the commentary, she's 874 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 9: already called him a predator American. His numbers went up, 875 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 9: and he's just doing his job and wants to save America. 876 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 9: He gets shot in the face for his commitment to 877 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 9: this country, and Americans want to trust the future. And 878 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 9: what she did when she was twenty nine is not 879 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 9: really going to matter to them, but it might rile 880 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 9: up a certain category. But I just think you just 881 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 9: stick with the issues. I don't think you have to 882 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 9: worry about what people are going to say. Trump needs 883 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 9: to himself, but he needs to stick with the issues 884 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 9: because he's got one more chance. We've got maybe a 885 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 9: few four more years of him as president, and then 886 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 9: all bets are off and we've got to get this 887 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 9: one right. 888 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 4: Fear itself exposing the left's mind killing agenda. That is 889 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 4: Tammy's new book out today. Everyone get yourself a copy. 890 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 4: I've got my copy right here in my studio in Miami. 891 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: Tammy. 892 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to diving into it. I've read, you know, 893 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 4: the first few pages. I have a sense of where 894 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 4: it's going. I feel like you're gonna tell me that 895 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 4: when the left says that the future is basically up 896 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 4: in flames because of climate change for their agenda, Yeah. 897 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 9: You know this is it's a first of all, we 898 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 9: all know COVID is the best, most immediate example of 899 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 9: what the establishment's capable of and what they had planned 900 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 9: for us. But this is a book that you know, 901 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 9: we've all known something's not right. We've known it for 902 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 9: a very long time pre COVID. It starts with, you know, 903 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 9: political correctness, where you have to not maybe say certain words, 904 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 9: and then we get into identity politics, where it's about 905 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 9: what color people are or their gender or sexual preference 906 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 9: or whatever that you have to think about. Suddenly we're 907 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 9: being divided up into you know, God help us into 908 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 9: balkanize little groups which you know are easier to hate on. 909 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 9: And then we get into the cancel culture, and you're 910 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 9: going to get fired if you don't use the right 911 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 9: pronouns and the world's going to end in twelve years 912 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 9: if you don't stop breathing and using straws. It's insane. 913 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 9: But there is a method to this madness. And my 914 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,439 Speaker 9: message to everyone, but you know, their message is all 915 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,720 Speaker 9: of you are a problem. Do nothing because you're destroying 916 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 9: the planet and humanity as we know it. Leave it 917 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 9: to us, your betters, and we'll take care of it 918 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 9: and we'll make sure that and we won't have to 919 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 9: hurt you or punish you if. 920 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: You just do what we say. 921 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 9: The fact is all of that fear, that chronic fear, 922 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 9: the mass anxiety, is our None of it is natural. 923 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 9: It is not organic. It's not a new normal, and 924 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 9: it is not inevitable. It is the kind of thing 925 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 9: that is so weak they can't have you notice it, 926 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 9: and things move so quickly. 927 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: They just want to. 928 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 9: Move you through and the thing, and they do it 929 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 9: because fear, which is meant to be transitory, if it's 930 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 9: a gift, if it's transitory, and it helps you make 931 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,919 Speaker 9: decisions about what to do, chronic fear with anxiety makes 932 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 9: you retreat. It makes you unable to make decisions based 933 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 9: on the emotional basis, and so to save yourself and 934 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 9: to not be punished, you begin to obey. And it's 935 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 9: very similar to domestic violence. It is the same technique. 936 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 9: It is attacking your self esteem, telling you you're the problem, 937 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 9: saying that unless you do X, Y, and Z, you 938 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 9: will be punished, and that we have to hurt you 939 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 9: because we love you, and if you just do as 940 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 9: we see you will be fine. That is the same 941 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 9: thing and it is. It informs everything the left does 942 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 9: and without the individual American being trained, and it's Look, 943 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 9: the human mind is fragile. It's brainwashing. There's gas lighting. 944 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 9: We're being trained to because we don't know what the 945 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 9: new language rules are or what you can say without 946 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 9: being called a bigot, maybe being fired, et cetera. You 947 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 9: say nothing if it's too dangerous to speak. You stop 948 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 9: thinking about the issues themselves. The bad economy adds more fear. 949 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 9: You then have no money to defend yourself or to 950 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 9: participate in politics, no food, you don't know what the 951 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 9: food is going to be on the table adds to 952 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 9: the fear. The nature of yes, losing your job or 953 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 9: being called a name on social media, and where then 954 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 9: there's you know, the cancel culture, you know, build up. 955 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 9: All of it is meant, and Elon Musk has saved 956 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 9: us a little bit in that regard. But all of 957 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,919 Speaker 9: that was meant, including with the censorship of our conversations 958 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 9: and the new words we're supposed to use, the words 959 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 9: we're not supposed to use. You know, the gays now don't. 960 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 9: The game mafia don't want you to use the word homosexual. 961 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 9: And I think that's because it's based in science, and 962 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 9: they don't want any implication of gender existing. And for 963 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 9: your audience to know I'm also I'm a gay woman, 964 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 9: so everybody can calm down in that regard. But this 965 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 9: is for me after having been on the left. We 966 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 9: can fight this and it can be defeated easily once 967 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 9: you see it. It's the difference of when you think 968 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 9: there's a lion in your room and the lights are off, 969 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 9: and you turn the lights on and it's really just 970 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 9: your main coon. Everything is fine, but you have to 971 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 9: have the light on. I want this book to do 972 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 9: that for people. It shows the history. It's an ancient technique. 973 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 9: The examples global warming, the riots of twenty twenty, Antifa, 974 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 9: the media is complicity in this education, the nature of Marxism, 975 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 9: and the fact that yes, people aren't going insane. You 976 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 9: can defeat it by the personal action of recognizing it. 977 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 9: And I have a series of packs for people to 978 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 9: make with themselves. The first one, you, guys, is not 979 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:20,280 Speaker 9: allowing strangers to tell you who you are, to dictate 980 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 9: who you are. So if you've got an opinion about 981 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 9: that men should not be on women's sports teams, know 982 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 9: you're not a bigot. And you're not a sexist and 983 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 9: you're not a transphobe. That it treat it like if 984 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 9: somebody called you a cocker spaniel, would you immediately look 985 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 9: at your butt to see if there was a tail. 986 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: No, you wouldn't. 987 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 9: And that's every accusation the left makes has to be 988 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 9: treated in the same way. So I've got a number 989 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 9: of techniques with which we can use to break the spell, 990 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 9: as I put it, And we're going to have to 991 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,760 Speaker 9: because all of this identity politics and attacks and violence 992 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 9: and threats of danger, and they're doing it to their 993 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 9: own base, are going to be doubled down on through 994 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 9: November fifth. 995 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 4: Tammy Bruce, everybody. Fear Itself is the book, Tammy, sounds 996 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,720 Speaker 4: like compelling stuff. Congrats, thanks you on publishing today. 997 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 9: I don't have any I don't have an opinion, as 998 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,720 Speaker 9: you can tell. 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