WEBVTT - #109 - Fat Nick 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.680 Poole Cap Podcast special guest, my guy fat Nick is 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.520 in your nick Ka Niki Gordon. Thanks for having me 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.959 appreciate it. I saw you say you go through your Heimothy, 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.319 just just that whole spiel that I saw on social media, 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:14.920 because that was hilarious. Your mom should have named you Himothy. 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:18.439 You are him, I'm him Heimothy Him duncan him, duncan 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.600 him junk ung him junk Ohn is a good one. Ooh, 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.400 that's a heater with Clinton sparks. Three days ago you 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.600 made one. Hemmy Levin hemu late Levine, Jimmy Levine, Yeah, 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:35.800 Hemmy Ivy bad Heimmy Ivy ivy. Yeah, that's a good one. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.800 I like that. All right, Yeah, well he is here. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.440 What you been up to, man, nothing just in l 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:48.360 a bullshitting. First of all, congratulations because from I understand, 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.360 you're you're sober now right, Yeah, two and a half 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.080 years two and a half years sober for a long time. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:55.720 That was kind of like a part of your whole 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.240 thing was you were a fucking maniac with the drugs, 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.720 like the drugs in the lean. Yeah, like lily, like 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.160 my whole like just like a persona. Yeah, it was 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.839 like it was like your social media you'd be having 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.000 cake shaped is lean by all kinds of xanax cakes. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.640 And it was a while. Uh. I mean it was 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.400 like crazy because like I felt like that was as 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.160 much as like you're a lore with some of the 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.640 outlandist shit you were posting on social media in like 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.520 twenty seventeen, and like what made you want to get 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.680 get your shit together? Honestly, after Pepe died, I was 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.480 still on drugs. I'm not gonna lie because you were 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.600 really close with Peep people who don't have friends. Yeah, 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.640 we got toured together like from the beginning of everything. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.320 But I think once after he died, I was still 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.640 on drugs, but like maybe like a year and some 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.559 change after, I was like, oh shit, like bro died. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.119 People are dying, Like realistically, I can't be on drugs 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.039 my whole life. Like one day you're gonna quit or 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:48.720 you're gonna die, and that's it, Like you have to 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.640 quit one day. Yeah, So I'm like, why not quit 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.800 now while I'm younger rather than waiting, digging myself deeper 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.680 and quitting later. Mmm? Was it? How hard was it? Man? 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.440 It was bad withdrawals and all that. My mental withdraws 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.160 were worth of my physical withdraws, because my physical with 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.120 draws lasted like what maybe like a little over a month, 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.399 you know, like puking, want to ship yourself you can't. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.520 You can't sleep your wing, you can't do this. But 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.440 the mental lasted. Yeah, me and I still think like 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.359 my shit's wired different, not a bad way. Just you 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.720 say mentally, what do you mean like like just like 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.280 thoughts or like your anxiety or like your depression states 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.520 are just like overthinking just all that shit. Yet mean 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.240 like you just like scrambled now my shows already scrambled. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.560 I's just like fuck yeah, Like what what at the time, 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.440 like let's say your peak drug use? What all were 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.640 you putting into your body? Man? Dude, honestly, I was 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.120 probably drinking maybe like a four a day, which I 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.840 don't think is shit, Like I think we lean is 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.760 the weakest opiate. But then I was taking like maybe 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.760 like four to six or forty five blues a day. Wow, 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.160 that's crazy. Yeah, So you were like, uh, I mean 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.600 that's like a an interesting state to just move around 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.800 in all day. Yeah. I mean then, God, like, at 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.880 least for me, I wasn't just like those people are 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:04.760 used to just nodding out like I was actually getting 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.840 shipped done. Yeah, because you see those people even Yeah, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.639 and I mean just hit me different yet me Like yeah, 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.360 like if I'm tired when you're sleeping shit, but I 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.240 can like still function and go about my day. You 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.600 ever have a like a scary moment where you thought 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.600 you maybe did too much or there was like a moment. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.640 There was one day that was in my house, like 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.840 in my old house, when I was on drugs. I 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.720 was drinking lean and I was popping blues and I 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:26.720 don't know what the hell. I don't know what the 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.680 hell happened. I think I maybe popped one too many 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.800 and then my vision was like closing on me and 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.920 like everything started warping and I literally had to go 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.280 force myself to throw up. But like I never felt 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.320 like that, so I don't think it was overdose. I 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.520 don't know the hell it was. But like the craziest yeah, 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.880 like my vision like started like tripping out, like like 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.320 I saw my eyes just like closing. Other damn about 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.000 the blackout. Yeah, it's crazy because like, uh, I mean, 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.080 as much drugs as you've done seems to be uh, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.839 you dodged getting that fetanyl batch. You know what, I 0:03:55.880 --> 0:04:00.560 think fetanyl started way more when I stopped. When I stopped, 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.680 it was started to hike. Yeah, because right now it's 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.839 again it's Yeah, when I was doing drunking, it wasn't 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.520 that bad, like at all, Like I can barely need 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.720 people who odd on fat right, right, right right? Yeah? No. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.640 The fetanyl shit now is like it's like Russian Willlette 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.279 every time. Even the cocaine. The crazy is the cocaine 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.039 is like the lace of that. Yeah, it is insane. Yeah, 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.240 I heard. I don't know if this is true, but 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.960 I posted something about uh Berner was I had Burner 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.840 on the show, and he had said something about like 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.560 laying off all the drugs because of fetanyl. And there's 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:34.000 people in the comments saying that there's laced weed now 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.440 with fatanyl, And I'm like, what the fuck the fuck 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.240 is going on here? I don't I don't know if 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.039 that doesn't even make sense. Yeah, that's like I don't like, 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.640 you don't need to cut weed, you get me, That's 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.200 what I'm saying' why I don't understand. I'm like a 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.280 seven of weed. It was like seven right people? Yo? Man, 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.240 did you tell him that weed is cooked with fetanyl. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.680 I'm like, how does that make sense? I don't make 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.360 it make sense. I don't get it. You know, because 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.680 you're cutting your white right to make it stronger, way 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.359 more you can stretch more. Yeah, but I'm even like 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.680 a seven to week so seven a weed. I don't 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.680 think so. So did you find like when you got 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.520 sober you had to get rid of certain friends or 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.000 certain people in your circle. No, I don't think so, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.440 because I think I was a very smart and choosing 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.000 who I surround myself with. You. I mean, like I 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.080 can really name who's my friends and who's my acquaintances, right, 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.039 but it definitely helped me to tell them like yo, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.440 like you gotta get off this shit, or like tone 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.159 it down a bit. M Like I still got friends 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.120 that are on drugs. Yah, hundred percent, they're under bullshit, 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.120 but like they definitely toned down than what they were 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:30.840 because I'm sure like at a certain point in time, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.039 your fans probably also had to be like leaving comments 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.320 like bro chill out, Like yeah, they would say chilling shit, 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:39.000 especially once the fat epidemic started. But yeah, I've been clean. 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.760 I haven't touched pills or leaning like over tw alf years. 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.400 I don't eve smoke weed anymore. Bro, congrats, don't even 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.520 smoke weed. Yeah, I get panic attacks. Like back in 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.040 the day, I can smoke ass. Now I smoke panic attack, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.840 panic attack. Crazy. Congratulations, Man, vape you do some vape 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.080 in a little bit of that liquid tobacci. Yeah, if 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.359 you blow them circles. You see on YouTube there's fucking 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.039 these guys in fucking Fox racing shirts and cargo shorts. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.279 They blow these huge ass But I got the big 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.240 bro chocho. Man. Oh hey, man, you'll take it right. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.400 I mean it'll kill you slowly, but yeah, everything's everything's 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.760 gonna kill you. Man. That's dope. Man, we'll shiit you. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.120 Were you ever a big drinker of alcohol? Dude, I've 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.720 never been drunk in my life. I've been tipsy, right, Like, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.599 I've never drank. But now go out and I'm like 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:29.280 social drinking. I mean, like, yeah, I won't get drunk anything, dude. Congrats. Man, 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.000 that's a hard thing to shake, especially when like you 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.120 have a persona that's known for so much of that. 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.919 Did you find it hard to like kind of have 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.520 an identity and the music ship that wasn't being the 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.440 big dude with drugs and guns. Now you're just the 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.760 big dude with guns. I mean no, I mean definitely. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.400 I think that's what like definitely brought a lot of attention, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.800 right because it was, like, like I said, when Sound 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.520 got started, right, I feel like that brought a lot 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.359 of attention because it was a whole different air of 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.600 rap and a whole different air of everything because back 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.960 in the day it was like club music. You got 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.279 to look a certain way, you gotta do this, and 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.159 then boom, soundcloak, and then there's like a thousand different characters, right, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.520 So I do think that helped it. And not just that, 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.239 but the drug gun was definitely like a wild factor. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.200 You were a part of the era of hip hop 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:17.280 that I like to call the Dark Age. I always 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.200 refer to this age of like twenty seventeen twenty eighteen 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.720 where a lot of shit and I'm you and Puy. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.040 I always have been a fan of you and Puya's music. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.360 I think Pully like a rapist. I mean, he's fucking incredible. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.360 But you guys are a part of an era of 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.680 music that I do feel like was fueled a lot 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.440 by antics on instant and now I'm saying you in particular. Yeah, 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.280 but you know what I mean, Like I think of 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:43.800 Little Pump, and I think a lot of these guys 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.320 who literally kind of came out of that era of music, 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.400 and a lot of it was more based on what 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.320 they were doing on their social media. Not to say 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.640 Pump wasn't doing numbers or but there was some guy 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:58.440 like what's that guy's name who said he was a clone? Damn, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.320 I know exactly talking Oh kid Boo. Kid Boo, right 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.440 is a perfect example, right, Like his music wasn't very good, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.680 his entire spiel was this wild shit he was doing 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.560 on his Instagram page, and he got signed to a 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.280 major label, like I think Island or somebody actually gave 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.080 him a record contract, right, And I just think of 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.040 like those kind of guys, whereas like that was the 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.360 era of hip hop, like and you were doing your 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.080 thing prior to that, you know, Like I said, I 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.040 lived in Florida when you and Puya were coming up. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.800 Y'all had a lit as fuck. Yeah, But once that 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.840 shit kind of hit the mainstream, I say, twenty seventeen, 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.840 twenty eighteen, man, it was so much bullshit getting pushed. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.160 But there's people like I don't know, bro right, I 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:39.720 think it might have met at one time. It seems 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.920 I met him. He's a nice guy. But there's people 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:46.720 like Soundclock got very oversaturated, right, And there's people like 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.800 that who maybe blew up but it doesn't have a 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.520 cult following, and then they just like you can't do 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.960 much after then you have people like Puya or Pomp 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.000 or Suicide Boys, right, who have a following well also 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.000 the music. Yeah, and the music too, And you have 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:02.920 a cult following, you can go sell out show, you 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.360 can go sell out merch, you can go do this. 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:06.920 You get me. So, I definitely think it's like a 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.679 There was a lot of cluttering it, but the one 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.600 that made it, like you can definite no. I think 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.520 Suicide Boy is a great example. Right, they're still going crazy, 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:20.600 you guys, seven thousand people for sure. I don't want 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.080 to discount everybody from that era. I just know that, like, 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.760 like you even mentioned Little Pump Pump. At a certain time, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.760 it was like the hottest rapper in the world. But 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.680 I do feel like he fucked up where he wasn't 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.920 focusing as much as making great music as he was 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.760 focusing on antics and a bunch of other shit, and 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.440 it just I like it, like we saw it with 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.160 our own eyes, Like his shit just starts to go 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.280 like down, and it was like and he was like 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.480 doing a bunch of desperate shit on Instagram. I felt 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.480 like for like likes and ship and I was like, bro, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.760 like just put out some fucking good music because Pump 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.120 had great records. He's good. I fucked with him, Yeah, yeah, 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:55.400 what I mean, you know, I do agree with I 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.040 think it was like harder at one point, right, but 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.120 I just think and then you would see him like 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.080 grasping at like just what wild shit can I do 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.440 in my ig? Whether it was his nails or do 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.120 the Trump sh it was just a lot of fucking 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.920 But like you said, there were there are people who 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.200 from that era cut through who are real fan bases 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.640 who and I think you guys are there, Like Suicide 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.280 Boy is a great example, you know what I mean. So, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.760 but I do I do feel like, I mean, not 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.480 no offense, you guys are from the worst era of 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:28.040 hip hop, all right, I'm be honest. It's like rock music, right, 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.920 you have rock and then you have branches, you have punk, 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:32.920 you have metal, you have this, you have that, you 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:34.760 have gent and then you have hip hop, which was 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.560 like the sole root, but then you have trap, you 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.440 have rap, you this, you have this this. I don't 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.520 make hip hop music. I think you are. I think 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.760 you make rap music. Then it's good. Yeah, it's like 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.320 rap music. So I don't think it's to I don't 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.280 think it's to work. I'm not saying you guys. I'm 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:52.319 saying that just the era of like everything that came out. Dude, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.400 I think Supreme Patty might have got a record deal 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.319 in twenty eighteen. I think he did. Like this is 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.160 what I'm talking about, Like if you had gone on 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.240 viral on academics enough, Like these stupid ass fucking labels 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.200 were just handing anyone a fucking check. Oh Bo's labels, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:08.720 trying to make a bag in seeing what you know. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.080 But that's what I'm saying. I mean, like that whole 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:11.560 That's why I call it the Dark Air because it 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.040 was like, for a solid two years, most of what 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.480 it was about wasn't the music. And now it's always 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.720 not always about the music. But I feel like in 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.200 that you know, two three year span, it was it 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.640 was rough because I have people coming up to the 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.480 show and I'll be like, God, what is going Listen, 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.760 no disrespect to kid Boo because I don't want to 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.079 keep coming back to kid Boo. But that was one 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:36.840 where I was like me and had interviewed him and 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.440 like he started tagging up his shoe in the middle 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.160 of his Gucci shoe and he put it on his head, 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.760 and I was like, oh, this is what we're doing. Okay, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:47.240 So all the music's not very good. Uh, all right, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.960 you're a clone. Okay, I know that's like like and 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:54.880 that's what you're that's just like reaching for you me. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:56.960 So you can't you can't be corny. Where there was 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.640 a lot of that ship though I'm not saying it was, 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.679 it was and like I said, like you said, man, 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.040 like a good example, like right now suicide Boys are 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.959 on tour killing it. And there was like people out 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.680 of that era that were like, pooh yah, you know 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.960 Shake Shake's dope. You know Germ was dope, Like there 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.760 are some dope dudes. But like I said, like I 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.280 just think that when I think of like the rappers 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.160 that came out of that era, I just think it's 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:28.000 the worst ever. I can go back and forth, I do. Okay, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.080 there's more shitty ones than good ones. That's what I mean. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.800 That's what I mean. Okay, yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.440 And I'm not saying you're a part of the shitty no, no, yeah, yeah, 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.560 but you're a part of the dark ages. I do 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:45.320 think though, that it did. When the generation started, it 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.720 was very influential. Like for sure, Chief Keef. I don't 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.880 think he gives enough, gets enough flowers. Of course, Chief 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.360 Keef's like probably one of them. I mean, listen, everyone 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:57.760 we interviewed who's maybe twenty five and under, that's usually 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.120 who they name is their influence. I think he created 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.840 a whole not created, but influenced a whole genre for sure. No, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.480 Chief keeps probably top five most influential rapper ever. And 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.640 there's a bunch of forty year old white dudes with 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:17.839 fucking camouflage pants and Timberland's on right now that rap bruh. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.040 But no, you're right, no Chief, And I don't put 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:21.840 Chef Keith in that, you know, But nah, I think 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.040 the whole SoundCloud area in general, like the cream of 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:28.280 the Crop, influenced a whole era of music, Like think 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.439 about X, right, Like X started off on soundclouds, X 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.800 started off with his music not being mixed and mastered, 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.839 and it was overmodulating and it was hard to listen 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.959 to in the car because it would like break your speaker. 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:42.640 But kids loved it. He's like my son's Tupac, you 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.520 know what I'm saying. And he influenced so much of 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.880 what's going on. He influenced Juice World, who's kind of 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.480 a branch from like the X World, you know what 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.679 I mean. Yeah, No, I think the SoundCloud shit, Like 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.080 with anything, like, there was positives and negatives and you know, 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.040 but it was just a goofy ass time in music 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.839 where these labels were trying to find It's a very 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:05.160 different time that's never been seen before a hundred and 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.320 I feel like when label saw it, they're like, holy shit, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.200 signed everyone. Everyone's fucking well. Everyone was trying to find 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.400 their little pump. Yeah, so they're gonna sign fifteen people 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.400 and out of that fifteen and one of them makes 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.040 and that one's going to recoup for everybody. YEA, yeah, 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.480 that's real, that's real. Did you ever because you never 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.120 signed to a major, right you stayed independent this whole time? Yeah, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.160 I'm sure everyone was trying to sign you. I mean yeah, 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.720 I've had interviews, I had a meetings with a bunch 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.440 of people, but it's like, I don't think it's worth it. Yeah, 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:37.200 what what was for you? Why why did you employ? 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.400 You kind of make that decision to stay Indy. So 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.200 when you first started making music, right, it started popping 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.240 off random obviously you monetize it on tone Court distri 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:50.040 or whatever. Yeah, all that ship we started making money 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:54.360 here we went on tour. We literally called cities all 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.840 on the country and book venues ourselfs like with book 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.320 the venue, no booking agent, no booking agent lives. When 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.680 we first started boo the venue, whenever they wanted boom, 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:02.920 sell it out, make the money. So when we got 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.600 off tour, we're like, yeah, we're making money, like real money. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.120 Our streams are kicking in. We just made x amount 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.440 on tour and we made X amounts of merchandise on tour. 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.160 So when we would go to meetings and they would 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.440 want X percentage, would be like, why are we gonna 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.560 give you a percentage to not guarantee it? Because the 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.080 label can't guarantee you. I can't guarantee you anything. They 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.280 can promise you, but it's not that's like going guarantee 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.040 you is the amount of money they give you up front, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.040 and that is the back door for them to fuck 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:27.800 you in the ass. Yes, So it's like, so I'm 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.920 gonna take that hopefully you can do something for me, 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.080 but I still gotta recoup that, and you're still gonna 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.560 take like fifty or sixty percent trash, which is insane. 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.520 So I'm like, we're good. Like, I know how much 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.160 money I can do merchandise. I know how much I 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.160 get per show and how much it gets streaming. So 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:42.720 I don't really need you unless you come up with 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.160 something crazy that makes sense for me. Yeah, Like I 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.680 agree with like distribution deals and stuff that's cool. Jvs 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.160 are cool, like if it's in your favorite stuff. Uh yeah, No, 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.280 I think that you guys had the right. I think 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.440 the worst thing people do is sign too early or 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.840 sign at all sometimes. Yeah, And I realized it during 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.040 because I follow artists right and they're complaining about their 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.280 deals or oh yeah, just the fucking live money dried 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.640 up and they're not seeing any actual money from their 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.040 music because they haven't recooped yet. Yeah, So it's like 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.680 that's a main key reason and they blew through their 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.480 advance and that's all the money they got coming in. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.720 If you ain't recooping, there's no more money to see 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.080 from your music. Yeah, you better recoop. So that's what 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.000 And he's the best bro. You literally get a good agent, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.680 get a good publicist, have a good home, your manager, 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.480 and I think you're too. Yeah, I mean you You 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.840 obviously work closely with the Roland Laud guys, and they've 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.600 been booking you from the jump when they were just 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.960 dope and tea. What is your relationship like with Tark 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.840 and Matt those guys. I love Tark, I love Matt. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.680 Matt's like my goddamn dad. Yeah, I mean like he's 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.800 like a different dimensional dad for me. I love Calvin, 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.120 I love everyone from there. You got me. They're definitely family. 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.080 I think they're really in tune and hip with the 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.360 culture and they really know what's going on too. I 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.840 mean they've always been that way, right, So, like they've 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.000 been throwing the show to in Florida since before Rolling Loud, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.320 all the rap shows were like everybody, they were doing everything. Yeah, 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.399 before Rolling Loud, it was like that was it. It 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.000 was they were doing the whole fucking state Miami. They 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:11.800 were kind of the only people bringing like real rap 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.240 shows to Miami and Miami, Orlando, Tampa, and I think 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.760 Jacksonville too. Yeah, I think they started booking currency too, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:22.960 like yeah, which is crazy to think. Damn, I'm old man. 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.680 But you were saying that off the camera. You're you've 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.520 been doing like some tiktoks going to food places, right, 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.359 but there's kind of a more official play happening with 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.640 you doing like a food type of show with collaboring 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.960 with Rolling Loud. Yeah, so mean Rolling Loud. We're doing 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.359 a food show, right, So we're going to different city 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.600 states whatever, We're eating, cooking with the chef, cooking with 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.119 the cooks, rating the restaurants, talking about its history and 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.879 all that. So it's that's like real episodes. Is it? 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.440 Kind of like what Action Bronson did a bit. I 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.680 love Bronson. Hats off to him. I love that guy. Yeah, 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.080 the guy Fiori diners diving and drivest thing. Yeah, the 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:01.360 way I shout out to him. He lost a lot 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.399 of fucking weight. Yeah, you lost some weight, dude. I 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.080 was on Keto. I I'm on Keto right now due 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.359 I was this shit works. I was three four, this 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.160 fucking fat fuck on the couch. Bro, I was three 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.919 hundred and forty pounds. I went down to two sixty. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.919 I was wearing an extra large shirt. I fucked it up. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:19.760 I went back to three twenty and today right now 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.680 I'm three or five. But Keto brompt. I was two 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.679 sixty on Keto for this guy did Keto for like 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.720 three days. He's like, Bro, I Cheatedude. I'm like, Bro, 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.479 that's not how this works. Bro. I did Keto for 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:34.520 four months and lost sixty pounds. Wow, cook, dude, I 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.119 saw the guy's super easy bright Now you're taking you 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.800