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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to text stuff. My name is Chris Poette and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an editor here at how stuff works dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting in a cross from me as always a senior writer,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. Your job's a joke, your broke, your love

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<v Speaker 1>life's d o A. It's nice of you to share

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<v Speaker 1>that with our friends. I thought so. So today we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about a social network experiment that launched recently.

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<v Speaker 1>As of the recording of this podcast, we're recording this

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<v Speaker 1>in July two thousand eleven, and not that long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Google made a an announcement that ended up taking at

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<v Speaker 1>least the uh, the geek world by storm. Yes, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had a few requests, and I think Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>and I have decided that we'll go ahead and record

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast about it now in self defense before too

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<v Speaker 1>many other people ask us how it works. And also

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<v Speaker 1>we should add that well, first of all, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Google Plus. In case you didn't read the title,

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about Google Plus but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>add a disclaimer at the beginning of this podcast, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Google Plus is in a a beta a rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>expanding beta program, uh, and could undergo massive changes and

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<v Speaker 1>short amounts of time. So anything we talked about today

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<v Speaker 1>may very well have be be different by the time

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast goes live, although I don't I don't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>things changing so significantly that they don't apply at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But it may be that there are some subtleties that

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<v Speaker 1>we are not going to cover because they will have

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<v Speaker 1>emerged between the time we record this in the time

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<v Speaker 1>it publishes. Yeah, because frankly, that's that's true of a

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<v Speaker 1>good two thirds of our podcast anytime we don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something in history. Yeah. But but with with something

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<v Speaker 1>like this in particular, or when it's in a beta

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<v Speaker 1>format and a lot of people are testing it out. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only that, but the team behind it is

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<v Speaker 1>listening to feedback and incorporating feedback into their changes. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a rapidly evolving service that's going on here. So

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<v Speaker 1>even though we might record something about say Facebook, and

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<v Speaker 1>sure maybe some things will get tweaked in the Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>uh service between the time we record in the time

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<v Speaker 1>we published it might be minor. But with something like this,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's truly experimental and people are implementing changes at

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<v Speaker 1>a rapid pace, the change it's more noticeable. Yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, now that we get the disclaimer on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Google Plus. Okay. So one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite descriptions of Google Plus came courtesy of Molly Wood

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<v Speaker 1>from c net, who said, Google Plus is like you

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<v Speaker 1>are at this uh, this really fancy party, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a V I P section of the party and

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<v Speaker 1>there are only a few people there, and everyone's excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, and everyone's talking about being at the party,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's all that's happening. That's that's definitely an exaggeration,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's also paraphrasing, so that's not a direct quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Molly would put it much more succinctly. But and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's also changed in the last couple of days. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But but early on, if you were one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few people who got into Google Plus, I was very

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate and that I managed to get an invite, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and and joined pretty pretty early on. Yeah, it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out I know a lot of people in the tech business. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you if you were in there early on,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like the people who were there were all

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<v Speaker 1>these mostly tech and geek culture folks. Yeah. So you

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of people who are from tech companies,

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<v Speaker 1>including folks who are actually from Google, which makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>it's their product, right. You had people from other big

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<v Speaker 1>companies stuff like Twitter or Facebook, even we'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had a lot of tech journalists, so

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<v Speaker 1>people like Leo Laporte, tom merritt Um later on, Molly

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<v Speaker 1>Wood and Brian Tong have seen it. Um I as

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<v Speaker 1>actor who's a good friend of mine, He's he was

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<v Speaker 1>also on there pretty early on. You had these folks

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<v Speaker 1>who were kind of populating it, so it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a weird social network. It felt like a social network

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<v Speaker 1>that had been designed specifically for this tech geek world. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you also had some geek celebrities, and I say geek

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities in that geeks like me tend to think of

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<v Speaker 1>them as amazing celebrities. So Felicia Day will Wheaten those

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<v Speaker 1>kind of folks. Um, So it kind of felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a social network built for geeks. Now that's gradually changing us.

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<v Speaker 1>More and more people join in and we're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>to slowly skewed toward a more quote unquote normal population.

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<v Speaker 1>I use normal just in the sense of average as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to geeks are not normal. Yeah, and and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel compelled to point out that again, like a number

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<v Speaker 1>of topics on this show, this is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that has been anticipated for quite some time. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to tell a lot of these things too,

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<v Speaker 1>things like the Apple iPad and Google Plus and things

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<v Speaker 1>like this that people say, oh, well, you know, Google's

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<v Speaker 1>working on a social network that's aimed to take down Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>and they talk about it for months and months and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes years, and you start going, yeah, happened, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like Spotify coming to the United States, which also just

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<v Speaker 1>recently happened, but for for a long time. Uh. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of those things that I've heard a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of technicalists called tech unicorns. Yeah. These are like

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<v Speaker 1>the white iPhone for a long time was the tech unicorn.

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<v Speaker 1>The iPad was a tech unicorn for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>These are apples streaming iTunes services, which is still still Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>These are things that everyone quote unquote knows is coming,

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<v Speaker 1>but it hasn't arrived yet, and it maybe years before

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<v Speaker 1>we ever get to it. And ever. Yeah, some of

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<v Speaker 1>these are some of these turned into vaporware, right, tech

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<v Speaker 1>Unicorn vaporware. The relationships pretty tight, Yeah, Duke Nukelen forever

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<v Speaker 1>long time tech unicorn. We will withhold commentary on what

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<v Speaker 1>actually eventually published anyway, But so let's let's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>talk about sort of the the we've talked about why,

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<v Speaker 1>how people wanted to get in. Uh we a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people wanted to get in and couldn't get in

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<v Speaker 1>because they didn't have enough invites. Um. The the expansion

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<v Speaker 1>of Google Plus has been pretty impressive to watch over time.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to say something, well, no, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say that they're in between the tech unicorn. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things. And at least in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>where Google Plus it was so we've heard it for

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<v Speaker 1>so long, it's like it's hiding in plain sight that

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<v Speaker 1>they just went, oh, here it is, and we all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went. Google Plus kind of launched without a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of fanfare from Google. But it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>Google didn't need to provide fanfare that was provided by

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<v Speaker 1>that community of users I was talking about earlier, because

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<v Speaker 1>that that that same group of early adopters who are

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about trying stuff out, are really passionate about sharing information.

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<v Speaker 1>So these adopters served as the the champions of Google Plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Google didn't have to say it anything. Really, they showed

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<v Speaker 1>off a demo um, they explained the concept and that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they let everyone else take over. And really, Google

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just release and watch. They released, watched and listened

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<v Speaker 1>and implemented changes. Which that's kind of where I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the tech enthusiasts have really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>latched onto Google Plus because they're like, they're not just

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<v Speaker 1>giving us this, They're listening to what we have to

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<v Speaker 1>say and they're taking that into consideration. So instead of

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<v Speaker 1>it being some sort of ivory tower where products come out,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a one way street, right, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're providing a service, but they're not listening to what

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<v Speaker 1>we have to say. We just take whatever they're giving us.

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<v Speaker 1>Google is more of a two way street. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>really feel that the people at Google are listening. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>they may not incorporate all the changes you think need

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<v Speaker 1>to be there because it doesn't match their vision of

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<v Speaker 1>what this service ultimately will do, but at least they're listening. Yeah, Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all of us have our own preferences and

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<v Speaker 1>choices we want to see in the product. And so

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<v Speaker 1>Google is not going to make all of us happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, those of us it does make happy,

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<v Speaker 1>it won't make us completely happy because well, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>looking for one particular thing or two particular things and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, that's just a few people. And Google

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<v Speaker 1>is not gonna change it just for a few people.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, as soon as it was announced, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the tech enthusiasts latched onto it and and it started spreading.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, um, Google was smart about launching

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<v Speaker 1>it the way they did because they were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid overloading their servers um and so what they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing was they were releasing it to a few people

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<v Speaker 1>at a time. And when I say a few, a

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<v Speaker 1>few to most of us would be you know, ten people,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, a few to Google was you know

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<v Speaker 1>a few hundreds, a few thousand at a time. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh so people were going crazy the first few days

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<v Speaker 1>after the launch looking for an invite to this new service.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it also makes it seem really exclusive. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course the more, yeah, the more exclusive something is,

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<v Speaker 1>the more people want to be in that because people

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<v Speaker 1>want to be part of an exclusive group. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just natural, right. You see, you see

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<v Speaker 1>the cool click of kids, and you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>in that click. And once you're in that click, you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. And yeah, I don't object to us

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<v Speaker 1>letting in maybe one or two other people who are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool, but let's not go crazy and let

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in, because then we don't have a click anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, and we can get into sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>click ish behavior that I've noticed on Google Plus. Not again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really really early on in Google Plus. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect that this will last long. There's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a big change as more people join. And also there

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<v Speaker 1>were reports that within a couple of weeks of Google

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<v Speaker 1>Plus launching, they were already possibly as many as ten

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<v Speaker 1>million people on it. And at the time we're recording

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, which is again just a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>after Google Plus launched, they expect it to be up

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty million by uh, in a in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days from the recording of this podcast. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for let's go ahead and get this answer

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way. If you're looking for Google Plus

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<v Speaker 1>to knock off Facebook, right away, it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen because they're talking twenty million people out of seven

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million for Facebook. So the law, the the long

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<v Speaker 1>term answer to that is maybe. But right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no threat whatsoever. And I don't think Google would

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<v Speaker 1>claim that Google Plus is meant to replace Facebook. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of leads us into what is Google Plus

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<v Speaker 1>because we talked a lot about the the popularity, but

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't really even discussed anything about the actual service.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some similarities to other social networks. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there are similarities to other Google products. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and you will notice if you have used things like

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<v Speaker 1>Google Buzz or Google Wave, you'll see little similarities here

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<v Speaker 1>and there in Google Plus. And you'll notice like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they they've sort of incorporated this idea and the lessons

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<v Speaker 1>they learned from that into Google Plus. So Google Plus

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<v Speaker 1>is essentially a social network, though it's not just a

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<v Speaker 1>social network. And the way it works from a user

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<v Speaker 1>perspective is that you will look for people who are

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<v Speaker 1>on Google Plus or have yet to join Google Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>people you know or people you know of, and you

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<v Speaker 1>put those people into circles. Now, these circles are categories

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can uh put people into whichever ones

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<v Speaker 1>fit best in your life, so that you can direct

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<v Speaker 1>messages to those people and read messages from those people

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that's more granular than your average Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>user is used to. Yeah. Now, I mean, uh, Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>fans would probably see, but yeah, I can do that

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<v Speaker 1>with Facebook. Well. Um, basically the big difference here, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is that this is like the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>do when you add a new person to your Google

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<v Speaker 1>Plus account if you want to uh start following Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>for example, Um, you know, the very first thing to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I found him. Now what circles do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to add him to? And you can add people to

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<v Speaker 1>more than one circle, yes, and you can create circles.

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<v Speaker 1>You you start off with some basic circles. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's friends, family, acquaintances, and followers are following. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>got let's say, I've got There's there's Chris, And then

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<v Speaker 1>I have to make a decision do I put Chris

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<v Speaker 1>in my friend's circle, do I put them in my

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<v Speaker 1>acquaintances circle, or do I put them in my following circle.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris is not part of my family, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to put them in there, and I'm all right

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Uh yeah, And and it's nice to note too,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're concerned with issues of privacy. The person

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<v Speaker 1>on the other end, the person that you're adding to

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<v Speaker 1>your circles, has no idea what circles to which you

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<v Speaker 1>have added them, right, So if you put them in, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you could create a circle called jerk faces. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know for a fact that I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>that certain and you could put people in the jerk

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<v Speaker 1>faces I know circle and they're not gonna know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the They know that you've added them, yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know what circle they are in. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably in a lot of jerk faces I know circles

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and now that our listeners have heard me

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<v Speaker 1>say this, I imagine a lot of them are making

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<v Speaker 1>jerk faces I know circles just to put me in them. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got these circles. Now you've decided where this

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<v Speaker 1>your first let's say it's your first person you're following.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to use Chris as my example. I've

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<v Speaker 1>decided that I want to follow Chris. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear what Chris has to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to see his updates. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to see his photos. Um, I put

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<v Speaker 1>him in my acquaintances circle. All right. So now, anytime

0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Chris posts and publishes his post to either the public,

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<v Speaker 1>which means everyone can see it. Everyone on Google Plus

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<v Speaker 1>can see it, everyone in the in the world can

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<v Speaker 1>see it. Um. I mean it's not restricted to anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in particular right right now. Now, if Chris has not

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<v Speaker 1>put me in a circle, and he publishes it in

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<v Speaker 1>anything other than public, I'm not going to see that information.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chris decides that he wants to publish a status update,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's just going to push it to his friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not in his friend's circle. He types in

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<v Speaker 1>his status update, he sets it so that it only

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<v Speaker 1>publishes to friends he publishes it. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>Chris has done anything to me. His his posts still

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<v Speaker 1>are blank. Now let's say that Chris does another one

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<v Speaker 1>where he decides he wants to talk about an article

0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.960
<v Speaker 1>he edited, and he wants this he wants the general

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<v Speaker 1>public to know about this article. He sets that status

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<v Speaker 1>update to public. Suddenly I can see that particular stats

0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.680
<v Speaker 1>update because he set it to public. So anyone following

0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Chris can see it. Then let's say that Chris notices

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm on Google Plus and he thinks, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan's there, I should add him. I'll add him to

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<v Speaker 1>my acquaintances circle. Then Chris publishes a set us update

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<v Speaker 1>and decides he only wants his acquaintances and friends to

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<v Speaker 1>see it, so he sets it so that this stats

0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.200
<v Speaker 1>update goes up to friends and acquaintances, but not the

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<v Speaker 1>general public. I would be able to see that stats update. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if he had not added me to his acquaintance circle

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<v Speaker 1>or his friends circle, I would not see it. I

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<v Speaker 1>would be unaware that he had updated his status. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get so granular that you can create a stats

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<v Speaker 1>update and directed to specific people. So I could create

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<v Speaker 1>a stas update and just send it to Chris alone,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the only person who sees it. Or I

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<v Speaker 1>could send it to Chris and maybe three or four

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<v Speaker 1>other people. Let's say that it's three or four people

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<v Speaker 1>who are in different circles. They don't really belong all

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<v Speaker 1>on the same circle, but I think they all need

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<v Speaker 1>to see this message. I might just go in and

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<v Speaker 1>manually put in each name, and those are the only

0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.600
<v Speaker 1>people who will see that message. Now, there's some other

0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.560
<v Speaker 1>things you have to remember, like, uh, there is the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to share posts that other people have published. Now

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<v Speaker 1>if you you can either turn the sharing on or off,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to. If you turn it off,

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<v Speaker 1>that means other people cannot share the same message you

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<v Speaker 1>just posted. If the share is on, your message that

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<v Speaker 1>went out to just your friends or just your acquaintances

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<v Speaker 1>might suddenly become public. So Chris sends out a message

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<v Speaker 1>to just his acquaintances, he has sharing turned on, he

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<v Speaker 1>has not turned that off. I read Chris's post, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think, hey, that's awesome. Everyone who follows me wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know that too. I hit share. Suddenly his message

0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that just went to his acquaintances are now it's now

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<v Speaker 1>out in the wild, So they're attributed to me exactly. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so people can actually follow it back to Chris. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>granted they're only going to be able to see the

0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.600
<v Speaker 1>things that Chris has published at that point to the

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<v Speaker 1>public if they go directly to that's the weird thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They might see a shared post like I share your post,

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<v Speaker 1>they see it on my feed, then they follow it

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<v Speaker 1>back to your feed and selling you that post isn't

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<v Speaker 1>there because it wasn't set to public when it was

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<v Speaker 1>originally published, and it gets a little complicated. These are

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<v Speaker 1>things that the Google Plus team. They're looking into this

0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff to see what makes sense and what doesn't make sense,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sharing versus private. And because you have the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to turn sharing off, if you are someone who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want information to go beyond that group of friends,

0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you can always turn it off. Now, granted, that doesn't

0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.520
<v Speaker 1>stop your friends from say A, saying that Jonathan said,

0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.119
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, And there's always you know, copy and paste, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there are ways around it. But that's the

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<v Speaker 1>same for any social network. I sort of count on

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<v Speaker 1>my friends to be lazy enough where they won't I

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<v Speaker 1>can't share this, yeah, exactly. And and really, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like real life. Just like real life. If

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<v Speaker 1>I come up and I tell Chris is secret, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing stopping Chris from going around and telling other people

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<v Speaker 1>that secret. I'm sorry, I told you, I'm sorry. Gee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well let's see if you ever get any key line

0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.960
<v Speaker 1>pie from me again. So so that's the basics behind

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<v Speaker 1>circles and sharing. And also, if let's say that when

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually consuming information, You're not just that that's sending

0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:46.440
<v Speaker 1>information out right, publishing information. You can also look view

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<v Speaker 1>your stream. That's what Google Plus calls your what what

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook would call the wall right or Twitter would call

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<v Speaker 1>it the feed, So it's the same sort of concept.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's the stream of information coming from all the

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<v Speaker 1>people that you put into your circles. You can view

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<v Speaker 1>that by circle. So if you just have it set

0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to the stream, you're looking at everything that people you

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<v Speaker 1>follow are publishing. So all your friends, acquaintances, celebrities who

0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.320
<v Speaker 1>might be following people you know of but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually know in real life. All the information gets dumped

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<v Speaker 1>into the stream. If you want to try and filter

0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.959
<v Speaker 1>that out, you can view your stream by circle. So

0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I might click friends and now I'm only going to

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<v Speaker 1>see the updates that my friends have published to their stream,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've cut everything else out. I can even view

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<v Speaker 1>it by incoming incoming. It gets really crazy for people

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<v Speaker 1>like me, and more so for people who are even

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<v Speaker 1>more even more who are actually famous. Because I have,

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<v Speaker 1>as the recording of this podcast, I have people following me.

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<v Speaker 1>If I choose incoming, I see their updates, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not following them. But by hitting income, I'm seeing everyone

0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.280
<v Speaker 1>who's following me, I'm seeing their updates. So suddenly it

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:08.479
<v Speaker 1>just becomes a wall of information. Um. But assuming that

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<v Speaker 1>everything they've published as public, if they published stuff to

0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.439
<v Speaker 1>their friends or their acquaintances or whatever, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to see that. I'm only going to see stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>in the circles that I've been included in and in

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<v Speaker 1>the public posts. But it means that I get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more information from a lot more people, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the people I follow, right. Um, So in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot right. So, in a way, Google Plus

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<v Speaker 1>is like Facebook and that you can follow specific people,

0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.800
<v Speaker 1>they can follow you back and you. In a way,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Twitter because in Twitter you can follow people

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<v Speaker 1>and just read what they have to say as long

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<v Speaker 1>as they don't have their profile set to private. You

0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.359
<v Speaker 1>can read Twitter posts from people as they update. So

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<v Speaker 1>in Google Plus the same sort of thing. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to give permission to someone in order for them

0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.879
<v Speaker 1>to follow you. But people say, well what about privacy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the the circles come in. That's where you

0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 1>can choose which circles see what you have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't want random people seeing what you have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you publish it to a specific circle, right, Um,

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>And I mean people compare this product to Twitter and

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Facebook all the time. Um. I've seen a constant stream

0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:20.280
<v Speaker 1>of that. However, I think it's most like at least

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<v Speaker 1>the ones I've tried. Most like another service that caught

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<v Speaker 1>on for a little while and Facebook acquired it, and

0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of languished under Facebook's control, and that's called

0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:35.200
<v Speaker 1>friend Feed. If you've ever been to friend feed dot com. Um,

0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it's very very similar and um, it's it's similar to

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the the feed is somewhat similar to the

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<v Speaker 1>wall on on Facebook, but you can um like and

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<v Speaker 1>unlike and make long comments to it, very much in

0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the style of friend feed, more so than than Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>or Twitter. But it's it's closer probably to Facebook or

0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.720
<v Speaker 1>friend Feed than it is to Twitter. Now, I mean

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.240
<v Speaker 1>there is some uh, you know that it looks a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more like Twitter. I mean, just the visual

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<v Speaker 1>element of it, I would say, Um, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>some other advantages to using Google Plus that there aren't, um,

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's probably I think of that more as the

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<v Speaker 1>integration with Android. UM. For example, you know, Jonathan and

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<v Speaker 1>I both have Android smartphones, and we can set Google

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<v Speaker 1>Plus to automatically post every photo we take with our

0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:33.880
<v Speaker 1>phones to Google Plus. Now I don't think that's such

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea. You can set your privacy. You can

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<v Speaker 1>set your privacy so that people don't automatically see those photos.

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<v Speaker 1>So so if you if you had it where every

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<v Speaker 1>photo you take is automatically published, uh, publicly to your

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Google Plus account, that seems like a bad idea. Yeah,

0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean even if even if we let's take let's

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<v Speaker 1>take out the bad behavior aspect, right, so bad behavior,

0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that would be a bad idea because suddenly you're publicly

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<v Speaker 1>showing everyone bad behavior. So let's say you know, being

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:04.919
<v Speaker 1>intoxicated or being acting irresponsibly in some way, and you're like, oh,

0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 1>let's take a picture of this that well, yeah, that's

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a bad idea. But let's say it's just a bad photo,

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 1>like your fingers in the frame. You know, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want that publishing because you're like, come on, that's just

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a I'd rather take that photo again. So you can

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<v Speaker 1>set your privacy setting so that those photos don't automatically

0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:27.760
<v Speaker 1>go to everybody. Yeah, I actually do have instant published

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 1>turned on right now, because I wanted to try it out,

0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty neat. I didn't realize that every picture

0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I take on my phone is instantly published, not just

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the ones I do through the app, but through anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So it gets like I've taken photos to upload to

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and twit pick. It also has gone to my

0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Google Plus account. Now I don't have it publishing publicly,

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 1>so at least people aren't being flooded by pictures of

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>me trying to take a photo of one thing and like, no,

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:54.919
<v Speaker 1>that's not right either. Let me change the lighting a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and take three more of these. But you

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<v Speaker 1>could do that, And that isn't to say that that

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<v Speaker 1>won't that functionality won't come to other phones. Now there

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>is a Google Plus app. Actually, there was a Google

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<v Speaker 1>Plus app for Android, I would say just about immediately

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<v Speaker 1>since I heard about it, I looked for it. There

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>it was the launch, the launch on the web, and

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the launch on the phone. In fact, the launch on

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the phone gave some people work around to getting into

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Google Plus. Early on, they installed the Google Plus app

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<v Speaker 1>on their phone and found that they could bypass the

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 1>invite system, and once they tried to activate the app

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 1>on their phone, it gave them an invite UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was another workaround that got you into Google Plus UM,

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>but those have been patched since then. But they've also

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 1>started opening it up two more people too. So I mean,

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I have hundreds of invites right now, and I just

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>keep getting more, and I'm running out of people who

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I know would be interested in it and well and personally.

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>And the invite system is not entirely intuitive. No, it's not.

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>It's not. It's not the easiest thing in the world.

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Like when you see the invite system, it's it's easy

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to get a little confused by it. Uh. I guess

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>we can talk a little bit about some of the

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>other features of Google Plus well before we get too

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>far away from the the Android app. We have heard

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that there is going to be an iOS app that's

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the operating system for the Apple I stuff. As the

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.640
<v Speaker 1>recording of this podcast, it's been submitted but not yet approved. Yeah,

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>so there. I don't know if the automatic photo feature

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>will work with those phones, I you know, and I

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know if there will be something coming for Windows

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Phone or or web os. Um. We'll see. Yeah, But

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of BlackBerry, like a lot of services

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and products that we're seeing launch these days. Uh, it's

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.679
<v Speaker 1>really effective if you subscribe to a particular ecosystem in

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 1>this case Google's, so using Google Plus on Google Chrome

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>and having an Android phone. It works. I mean it

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>works really seamlessly because all those products are coming from

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the same company. But when you start mixing matching, your

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>experience may vary. Yeah. There's another feature, um, and that

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 1>that Jonathan and I tried out pretty much immediately, and

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>that's called the huddle. Yes, Um, this is this relates

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to uh two phones. Yes, So a huddle is like

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>having a group messaging system on phones. So everyone who

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>is in a huddle needs to have uh a phone

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>number attached to their Google Plus account, or they have

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>to have the the Google Plus app installed on their

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 1>their phones. Um. And what you do is you set

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it up and you can send out a message. Let's

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>say that I want to have get together after work

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 1>one day and just hang out of the restaurant, have

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>some appetizers and talk about what's been going on in

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the company. There might be three or four people I

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>want to invite, so I add all of them to

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 1>my Google Plus huddle and I send out a message.

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>That message will go to all of those people, and

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.959
<v Speaker 1>then all of those people can respond to that message

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>and everyone can see each other's responses. It becomes kind

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>of like a chat room via text message, but only

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>among that group of people. And again this is functionality

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that reminds me of Google Wave and also other services

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 1>like Beluga. There are group messaging services Beluga, there are

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>other group messaging services. Chris gave me a look, and

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you wanted to do the bulbous bouffont Beluga,

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>which my wife hates um. But the yeah, there there

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>are other messaging services group messaging services that are doing

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>this right now. In fact, a lot of them were

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>launching around south By Southwest and we're making a big,

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>big splash there. Google Huddle is kind of Google's version

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 1>of this. Now, that was one of the workarounds too.

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>If you added someone to a Google Huddle, then in

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 1>order for them to be able to use the Huddle,

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>they were given a link to log into Google Plus,

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's how they ended up getting accounts even though

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have an official invite UM and the invitations

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>at that point had been closed. And yet a lot

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>of people found that workaround. Again, that's been patched since

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the since since it first happened, took a couple of

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>days before Google caught on, or maybe they caught on,

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>but they let it happen anyway because they're like, well,

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 1>this is letting the population base expand, but it's not

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:14.400
<v Speaker 1>expanding at a rate that's outside of our comfort zone.

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, um. And there's hangouts yea. Hangouts are awesome.

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I haven't tried to hang out yet. I've tried it

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>and it is. It is addicting. So a hangout is

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.959
<v Speaker 1>a video chat session. You can start a hangout with

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 1>specific people if you want to, or you can start

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>a hangout and just make it public where anyone who

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>follows you will see the hangout and can join. And

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a hangout is you need a web cam and a

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>microphone and speakers in order for this to work, so

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>that you can hear people, they can hear you, and

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>they can see you, and up to ten people total

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>can be in a hangout at one time, so it's

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you and nine other people max. And the video switching

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>is very clever. It switches to whomever is speaking at

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the time, So if everyone's quiet and I'm talking, then

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.479
<v Speaker 1>the main video will be me as I'm chatting. As

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>someone else starts to talk, the video will switch to

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>that person, and uh the focus changes to them. And

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>if two people are talking, whomever' is the loudest will

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>have their video featured as the central video, and so

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you'll actually see uh if in a full hangout, you'll

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>see one main screen of the person who's talking, and

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>then you'll see the other nine miniaturized like thumbnail sized

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 1>screens below, and it's all moving, you know, like you're

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>seeing video from all those feeds at one time. It

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>can get a little buggy depending upon people's um data

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>transfer rates. You know, if you're if you're on a

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>slow UH, if you're not really on a high speed

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>broadband connection, you're gonna have some problems with this. There'll

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>be some lag. UM I was. I was having some

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>really bad lag when I was doing it, because I

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>think there were a couple of different uh choking points

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>in the in the data transfer. So I would say

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>something and then about three or four seconds later, I

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>would hear myself say it. So I'm responding to something

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that someone is saying right now, but then three or

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>four seconds later there I'm starting to hear it. So

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>there'd be a gap between when I'm talking when they're talking,

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>so you know, they might stop asking me a question

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>stop I don't answer. Then they start asking if I'm there,

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and that's when my answer is starting to hit and

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I got a little muddled. But on a fast connection,

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool. Yeah. And then of course, right after

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>all this happened, Facebook had an amazing, awesome announcement. Yeah,

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>they're video chat, which is uh partnership with Skype and

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>allows you one on one video chat with another person

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook. It's a difference system, right, Like you can

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>use a hangout and just talk to one person if

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to, but you can also talk to a

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>group of people, whereas with Facebook video Chat right now,

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>as the recording of this podcast, it's a one on

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>one scenario. So um, Facebook may not necessarily see Google

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Plus as an immediate competitor, but you can bet that

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the company will be watching Google Plus to see what

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>features are added next. I mean, uh, and I don't

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.719
<v Speaker 1>think Google Plus is what Google would consider a finished

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>product even you know, assuming that the features are all robust,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>they open the floodgates and anyone can join. You have

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>two hundred million people on there. I think they will

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>continue to add new features and new functionality. For example,

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>something that I I don't know expect might be a

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>strong word, but seriously wouldn't be surprised if it happened

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>would be games, which has been a huge driver of

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>traffic to Facebook. Adding adding other kinds of in uh

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>insight apps like that I think would would not be

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a shock at all. Just opening up an a p

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I would be pretty And you already have starting to

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>see some extensions for for Google Chrome that are specifically

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>designed for Google Plus, things like allowing you to reply

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>specifically to the person who posts. We didn't talk about that.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>When you do post, people can leave comments on that post,

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>just like in Facebook, on a wall wall post or Whitter,

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>people can reply. Yeah, plus one is kind of like

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>voting up or a comment or saying that you know,

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I really like this, so I'm adding a plus one

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to it. It changes the way it displays on other

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>people's streams. Um, but yeah, we should We should mention

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that quickly. Like in Twitter, you can reply to someone

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and in general only you and the other person are

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>really seeing that conversation unless other people are following both

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of you. Right, So if I reply to Chris. People

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>only Chris and I would see that reply unless other

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>people are following both of us. Uh. Now with Google Plus,

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it's more like Facebook and that I can make a

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>comment and then someone else can comment on that. Anyone

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>following me can comment on that if I've made it

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>public and then or and you can disable comments as

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>well if you don't want people commenting on something um

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and then other folks can comment and it becomes a discussion.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I've had a few discussions like that pop

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>up on Google Plus. Recently. I said, wouldn't it be

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>cool to use the hangout feature to have a D

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and D game where everyone in the hangout is playing

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>D and D. You have one person being the dungeon

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>master and everyone else is playing a character. And you

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>could do that. You could have people from other states

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>log in and play the game all at the same time.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>So or any other game for that matter. Yeah, you

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>could really do that with any game, although once you

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>start getting into things like board games or whatever, it

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>gets a little more complex. Some games you wouldn't be

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>able to do, like like poker, because how are you

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>going to deal with all those cards in? You know,

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you have to have a video poker game going at

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the same time, which makes them a little more complicated anyway,

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Yeah, any any role playing type game like that. Yeah,

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>board games you could do too, if everyone had a

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>copy of the board game. Yeah, but you have to

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, you have to move me forward three squares?

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Is everyone on Baltic Avenue? Good? Next turn? Uh? So

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that's but another feature we should talk about very quickly

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>is Sparks. Oh yeah, Sparks. Sparks is kind of like

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Google Reader in a way. You tell Google Plus what

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>what topics you are interested in, and then Google Plus

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of cultivates a news feed based on whatever interests

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you've told it apply to you. So, for example, I've

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:15.479
<v Speaker 1>said technology, if I go to my Sparks technology uh feed,

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>then I will see news articles that are related to

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>technology within Sparks. Um. That's kind of an feature that

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>people have noticed and said, well, you know, it's it's

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>just not fully baked yet. So that's something I expect

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that we'll see more uh evolution in in the near

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>future for Google Plus. Yeah. I think the idea behind

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the name Sparks is it's supposed to spark a conversation

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>so you see a cool story, you post it to

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>your stream and then you and your friends have a

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>conversation with it. And I it does that, but you

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>know it's I in looking through the sparks that I've

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>added to my pis. Oh yeah, if you if you

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>add one, say you add technology to your Google Plus account,

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you'll see it on the left hand navigation, um, along

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>with you know things like your you know lists for

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>your circles and you know the other the other features

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>people who are available for Google Chat that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah,

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>so um, so it's available to you whenever. Um. But yeah,

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I just when I go in there, I just find

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>a few stories and it's not really a very long list.

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not very compelling. Yet, Uh, the idea is there,

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean the I I see nothing wrong with the idea,

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and I think they need to And I think this

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>is Google's response to the trend of people getting information

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and news through stuff like Facebook. Like their friends shares

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>an article that's that that their friend thought was really

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>cool and then you see it on Facebook and you're

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>like huh, and you click on the link and you

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>read the article and you're like, yeah, that was interesting.

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Google's kind of taking that and trying to incorporate it

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>directly into the social experience so that you aren't you

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>know you aren't. You don't have to move very far

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>away from Google in order to do it. Also, we

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>should mention that Google Plus has a notifications bar that

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 1>tells you when people have interacted with your your Google

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Plus account in some ay, maybe that they started to

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>follow you. It may be that they left a message

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>for you. They they've mentioned you in a comment, They've

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>applied to one of your status is uh. The cool

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>thing is, if you're on any Google site, so including

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Google dot com just the web browser, if you're signed

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>into Google, that notification bar is at the top of

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>your screen, and you can actually look at those notifications

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>in real time on that that page and respond to

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>them without ever actually traveling to your Google Plus account.

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>So I might be on Google dot com doing research

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>for an article and I see a notification thing pop up,

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, com wonder what's going on? Click on it,

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>see that someone's commented on one of my pages. I

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>wanna comment back. I can type in a comment on

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that notifications page and send it back without ever actually

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>going to my Google Plus uh. Profile and um, we

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>also need to talk really briefly at least about photo albums. Okay.

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I was going to add to about about that that

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>you can also turn on email if you really want

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you and that I gave a bad idea if you

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of followers, because you will start getting

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>but you could. You can do the same thing as

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you would with Twitter or or Facebook and say yes,

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to know, send me an email every time,

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>or or text message every time someone you know fill

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>in the blank. It's pretty much everything sends me a

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>message gives me a plus one. You can choose. You

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>can choose which ones give you alerts and which ones don't.

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>And uh. For for an average user, it may make

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>sense to have email notifications turned on for me because

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I have people following me. It would be it would

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>overwhelm my email. Yeah, I would, And I learned very quickly,

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>like day two of Google Plus, to turn all that

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>off for me. Um. And and you know, I know

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>that there are people who are far more popular than I,

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and I can only imagine what their email would have

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 1>looked like, like like Veronica Belmont or Fleicia Day or Will Wheaton.

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 1>You know some of these people who have way more

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>visibility than I do. I'm sure their accounts would have

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>been overwhelmed in a second. But um, yeah, please go

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>into photo albums. I do have one other thing I

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>want to mention before we finish. Okay, So yeah, photo

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:11.760
<v Speaker 1>albums are using Picasa, Google's photo web photo album service

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>as the foundation. Although Picasa will undergo a name change

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty soon. I think that's gonna be Google Plus Photos

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. So but it's it's the same

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>service so Picasa. Normally, if you sign up for a

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Picasa account, which really you can do. If you have

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a Google account your you can create a Picasa account.

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>You are normally given one gigabyte of storage space for photos,

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:40.720
<v Speaker 1>which is not really that much. Um. But with Google Plus,

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>if you upload photos through Google Plus, it will automatically

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>resize your photos so that the longest edge of your

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>photo is two thousand, forty eight pixels long, all right,

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>will automatically resize it. So whatever the longest edges gets

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>reduced to that size and at that resolution, it does

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.919
<v Speaker 1>not count against your one gigabyte of storage space. So

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>if you upload the Google Plus you effectively have unlimited

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>digital photos storage. I tested this and I have a

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>photo album on my profile that has one thousand photos

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>in it. That's the maximum number of photos you can

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>have in a photo album. Now, you can have unlimited

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>photo albums in Google Plus, so you're not limited that way.

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>It's just that each individual photo album can only have

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>a thousand files in it. And uh, I recently took

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a vacation in Europe, and so I have a thousand

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>photos from my vacation in Europe in that photo album.

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>And I probably have about two thousand more photos I

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>need to upload from that vacation, so they'll be most impressive.

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 1>There'll be at least three photo albums of my vacation

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>photos on Google Plus. Now, you gotta keep in mind

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a lower resolution than your original file, assuming,

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of course, you took it with a decent digital camera.

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh So, the photo that you get on Google Plus

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>is not going to be suitable for printing out, for example,

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>or enlarging. Um So you will need to find some

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>other method at a storage if you want to keep

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the photo at the original resolution. Um The thing I

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about was your Google profile. If you want,

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>If this sounds interesting to you, you don't already have

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a profile on Google Plus. You'll need a Google account.

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And this is you know, the account works for everything

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:23.800
<v Speaker 1>from Google Plus to Google Docs and all the other things. Um,

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:27.720
<v Speaker 1>if you already have a profile and you've been keeping

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>it private, UM, that's going to change one way or

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the other by July thirty one. I'm not sure exactly

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>when this is gonna published. This may put some of

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you at a really tight deadline. UM. I don't think

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people know this, but Google has plans

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>right now, as of the recording of this podcast, to

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>delete any profile that is not public by July thirty one.

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And you have to have a name attached to your profile.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so you can't just create profiles like multiple

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>profiles and not have a and identity associated with that

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>profile right now. It doesn't necessarily have to be your

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>exact name. However, people, I have heard reports that people

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>with made up names have been questioned by Google, um

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>as they might on on Facebook. Um, you know, they

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>they want to make sure I guess that a real

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>human is behind it and they're not fooling around. But uh, yeah,

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean this this might cause some issues because I

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>know one of the people. Things that people complain about

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 1>about Facebook is that, you know, hey, I want to

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I want to keep this between my close friends, the

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>people I know in real life, and my family. You know,

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want it to be out there for everybody

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to see. And this is no longer going to be

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.879
<v Speaker 1>an option. The thing is, maybe you say, well, I've

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>had a Google account for ten years now, I have

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Google account's been around him that long anyway, Um, I've

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>had a Google account for some time now, and you know, I,

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess I'll change my name on Google Plus. Well,

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>if you do that, it changes it across your entire profile.

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Um so if you want to rename your Google profile Horatio,

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>your Google Plus profile Horatio T. Wiggle Bottom, then people

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>who you send email to on Gmail will also see that,

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and they may not realize that that's you, and then

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>they delete it and they make fun of you. Yes, know,

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily so that's the that's the thing. I

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Uh, it's it's sort of unclear to me

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 1>whether they mean, you know, we will delete your profile,

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>meaning we will delete your entire Google account, or whether

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>they mean there will be nothing public about this account

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>at all, the the the what they call the profile itself.

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>It's what they're just talking about. And that's still unclear

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>to me as of right this minute, but I have

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the feeling they're talking about the entire account and and

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean the whole point of this is it's a

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, to let you connect with other people. So sure,

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 1>keeping it private means that no one can connect with you. Yes,

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>but this this is happening regardless of whether you have

0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>a Google Plus account or not. So yeah, but that's

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>because the Google Plus is on the foundation of that profile.

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.320
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's forced that to happen. The profile is

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the pyramid is the problem. So um yeah,

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's that's a concern some people have, um,

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>A concern I have. And again this is not necessarily

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the concern of the average user, but it is for

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>people like Chris and myself and for people more notable

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>than us, is that people can create um the you know,

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>fake accounts or or accounts, uh, accounts claiming to be

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>people and it's not really that person. Well, you know.

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>One of the big things is, uh, this first couple

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 1>of weeks of Google Plus was that Mark Zuckerberg, the

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>founder of Facebook at a Google Plus profile and they

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>were pretty sure it was him because it was a

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>photo no one had actually seen of him before, and

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>the people he had in his circles were Facebook executives.

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>And then thousands of people followed him. Yes, as a

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, he was at one point, I don't

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>know if he still is, uh, the most followed person

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook. I heard a report that he actually left

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>he tightened up his privacy settings. Really, Mark Zuckerberg, you

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>tightened up your privacy settings? Yeah? I thought you said

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 1>no one wanted to do that. Good thing. It was

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>really easy to find, yes, Um, but uh. And I've

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>also heard reports as of today that he may have

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>actually deleted that account. But um, there are also dozens

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of other Mark Zuckerberg's in there now. Yes, and I

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>know that, like Neil Gaiman, he end the Google Plus

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>account for a while, and then he made the conscious

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>decision to to to cut it out. He said it

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 1>was too much noise and it didn't work for him,

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>so he left. And then, um, he got irritated because

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>he started getting lots of emails from people trying to

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>add him into circles. But because he had left Google Plus,

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 1>he was getting those invites through email as opposed through

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Google Plus. So he deleted his account and then got

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>deluged by email. Um. Yeah, there's the thing I was

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>saying is that there should be are hopefully there will

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>be some point away to verify that you are who

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you say you are, kind of like Twitter has verified accounts.

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>It would be nice to have a verified account through

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Google Plus. Because I noticed last night that I had

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a quote unquote celebrity following me named Selena Gomez. Uh yeah,

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 1>so uh the Bebes Main Squeeze and um, and so

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, why is the Beeb's main squeeze following me?

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>And so I decided to do a little investigative work

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and noticed that it was not truly her. People who

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>had gone into a hangout with this person said, no,

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>this isn't really Selena Gomez. It's a it's a fake

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.760
<v Speaker 1>account from a fan, which, you know, whether you believe

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that's ethical or unethical is beside the point. The point

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>being that you know, you kind of want to know

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the people you're talking to are the people that you

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>think they are, right. You don't want to be misled.

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>You may have a genuine interest in following someone who

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>is either celebrity or other notable figure. But uh, you know,

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't mind the fact that they're not following you.

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>You just want to get that information. Let's say it's

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:59.919
<v Speaker 1>a politician or it's someone, uh like a notable author

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>already in a particular field that you're interested in. You

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be following a fan of that person

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're not actually getting the information you wanted. So

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that's an issue with Google Plus. As of the

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:14.720
<v Speaker 1>recording of this podcast. Yeah, there there are apparently corporate

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>accounts on the way, so yeah, right there, when that happens,

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:19.879
<v Speaker 1>there will be a house stuff works dot com account, yeah,

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 1>tech stuff account, And I applied for a tech stuff account.

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Ah yeah, yesterday, So if that happens, I haven't received

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>any information back about that yet, but that's that's coming,

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, Yeah, because right now, it's supposed to just

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>be people. That's what Google Plus was designed to do.

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And they said, you know, we understand there are corporations

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that want to use this as a way of connecting

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>with their customers, um, their partners, etcetera. But it's just

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>not designed for that. They're working on that right now.

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>They being the Google Plus team. Yeah, I think I

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:52.799
<v Speaker 1>think that they have that Google has done a much

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>better job with this than it did with Wave and

0:45:56.400 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and and definitely buzz and definitely work it. Um is

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it a Facebook killer? While I can't stand the Blank

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>killer thing. I think it can definitely grow into a

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Facebook rival and that will be good. I think the

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>competition will be good for Facebook. They don't really have

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:17.280
<v Speaker 1>at this point a serious competitor. My Space was probably

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the last one, and it's at least a serious competitor

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and host the world. Yeah, and there are a few

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>places where things like or are actually sure yeah five um,

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean worldwide. Uh. Facebook is still a

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty big um juggernauty million users is huge. Yeah. Yeah.

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>So I think I think that given time and some

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>added features and some refinement, I think Google Plus is

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>off to a very good start. Yeah. And it may

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>very well just be a complementary service. It may never

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>be one that replaces Facebook, because that wasn't necessarily what

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.040
<v Speaker 1>it was intended to do. It may be that you

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 1>go to Facebook for certain kinds of interaction and you

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>go to Google Plus for other kinds of interaction, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with that, so um, we'll see. I

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<v Speaker 1>know there are a lot of people who are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that are going to just drop Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I've seen a lot of people who have

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<v Speaker 1>changed their profile pictures to say I have moved and

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<v Speaker 1>have the g Plus logo in there, which is cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and I was gonna say about the clicks behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's finish off with this because we are running along.

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<v Speaker 1>But the clickish behavior on Google Plus. I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people and I assume most of it was

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<v Speaker 1>joking about how you know, because they joined early. They

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would be cool to have a Google Plus

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<v Speaker 1>badge to show that you were one of the original

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<v Speaker 1>Google Plus beta testers before it went public, and that

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<v Speaker 1>this would set you apart. And uh, I happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be of the I mean, I jokingly said that would

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<v Speaker 1>be awesome, but I honestly think that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>bad idea because it would discourage people. It would it

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<v Speaker 1>would encourage a sense of clickishness and saying like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>superior to you because I managed to get an invite

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<v Speaker 1>to this social network, which, by the way, getting an

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<v Speaker 1>invite to a social network doesn't mean anything. It just

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<v Speaker 1>means you've got an invite or a work around, which means,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, equally nothing. Um. The so I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that that's kind of would discourage new people from coming

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<v Speaker 1>in because they're like, oh, well, this is like a

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<v Speaker 1>closed off club. And also right now it's more or

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<v Speaker 1>less a boys club according to UH. To Mashable, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a a survey done to see or a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an estimation done to see how many men

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<v Speaker 1>versus women are on Google Plus. Um. For a while,

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<v Speaker 1>like women made up about ten of the entire Google

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<v Speaker 1>Plus population. And when you think we're potentially over ten

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<v Speaker 1>million users, that's significant. According to Social Statistics, that percentage

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<v Speaker 1>is now closer to UH seventy three points seven percent,

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<v Speaker 1>So there are more females on Google Plus than there

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<v Speaker 1>were before, but still it's overwhelmingly a male population. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to see. For Google Plus to really survive,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to see that expand beyond just the dudes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. Al Right, we are wrapping this up.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we said, there's probably a billion other things we

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<v Speaker 1>could say about Google Plus right now, not to mention

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that by the time this publishes things may

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<v Speaker 1>have changed. UH. If you guys have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>access it, search us out, or at least search me

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<v Speaker 1>out Chris. Chris is really good at at at maintaining

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<v Speaker 1>a nice low profile. I am one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>that prefers to keep my social networking down to people

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<v Speaker 1>actually know in real life. And I certainly mean no

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<v Speaker 1>offense to any of our listeners. No, it's there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with that. Yeah, I I am a very extroverted

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of guy who I'm like, look at me. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just really different personalities. None of us have noticed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you can't tell by the way I dominate

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<v Speaker 1>every single conversation. UM. Anyway you can. You can search up,

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<v Speaker 1>search us out, feel free and uh you know, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on how long it is from the time we published this,

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<v Speaker 1>we may be active on it, or we may have

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<v Speaker 1>given up on Google Plus because it's still early days.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've seen a lot of Google product get

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<v Speaker 1>initial positive response only to kind of fade away over time,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see if this is one of those. UM. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind Google Plus does have at least at

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<v Speaker 1>the recording of this podcast, and age limit. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to be eighteen years or older and uh tall, so

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:20.279
<v Speaker 1>your mileage may vary on your success at getting into

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