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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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Speaker 1: tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to text stuff. My name is Chris Poette and

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Speaker 1: I'm an editor here at how stuff works dot com.

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Speaker 1: Sitting in a cross from me as always a senior writer,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. Your job's a joke, your broke, your love

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Speaker 1: life's d o A. It's nice of you to share

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Speaker 1: that with our friends. I thought so. So today we

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about a social network experiment that launched recently.

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Speaker 1: As of the recording of this podcast, we're recording this

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Speaker 1: in July two thousand eleven, and not that long ago,

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Speaker 1: Google made a an announcement that ended up taking at

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Speaker 1: least the uh, the geek world by storm. Yes, definitely,

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Speaker 1: and I have decided that we'll go ahead and record

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Speaker 1: a podcast about it now in self defense before too

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Speaker 1: many other people ask us how it works. And also

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Speaker 1: we should add that well, first of all, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Google Plus. In case you didn't read the title,

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about Google Plus but I want to

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Speaker 1: add a disclaimer at the beginning of this podcast, which

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Speaker 1: is Google Plus is in a a beta a rapidly

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Speaker 1: expanding beta program, uh, and could undergo massive changes and

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Speaker 1: short amounts of time. So anything we talked about today

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Speaker 1: But it may be that there are some subtleties that

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Speaker 1: it publishes. Yeah, because frankly, that's that's true of a

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Speaker 1: good two thirds of our podcast anytime we don't talk

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Speaker 1: about something in history. Yeah. But but with with something

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Speaker 1: where it's truly experimental and people are implementing changes at

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Speaker 1: a rapid pace, the change it's more noticeable. Yes, that

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Google Plus. Okay. So one of my

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Speaker 1: and that's all that's happening. That's that's definitely an exaggeration,

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Speaker 1: Molly would put it much more succinctly. But and it's

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Speaker 1: and it's pretty neat. I didn't realize that every picture

429
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Speaker 1: I take on my phone is instantly published, not just

430
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Speaker 1: the ones I do through the app, but through anything.

431
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: So it gets like I've taken photos to upload to

432
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Speaker 1: Twitter and twit pick. It also has gone to my

433
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: Google Plus account. Now I don't have it publishing publicly,

434
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: so at least people aren't being flooded by pictures of

435
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: me trying to take a photo of one thing and like, no,

436
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: that's not right either. Let me change the lighting a

437
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: little bit and take three more of these. But you

438
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Speaker 1: could do that, And that isn't to say that that

439
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: won't that functionality won't come to other phones. Now there

440
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: is a Google Plus app. Actually, there was a Google

441
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Speaker 1: Plus app for Android, I would say just about immediately

442
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: since I heard about it, I looked for it. There

443
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: it was the launch, the launch on the web, and

444
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: the launch on the phone. In fact, the launch on

445
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: the phone gave some people work around to getting into

446
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: Google Plus. Early on, they installed the Google Plus app

447
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: on their phone and found that they could bypass the

448
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: invite system, and once they tried to activate the app

449
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: on their phone, it gave them an invite UM, and

450
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: there was another workaround that got you into Google Plus UM,

451
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: but those have been patched since then. But they've also

452
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: started opening it up two more people too. So I mean,

453
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: I have hundreds of invites right now, and I just

454
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: keep getting more, and I'm running out of people who

455
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: I know would be interested in it and well and personally.

456
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: And the invite system is not entirely intuitive. No, it's not.

457
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not the easiest thing in the world.

458
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: Like when you see the invite system, it's it's easy

459
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: to get a little confused by it. Uh. I guess

460
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: we can talk a little bit about some of the

461
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: other features of Google Plus well before we get too

462
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: far away from the the Android app. We have heard

463
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: that there is going to be an iOS app that's

464
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: the operating system for the Apple I stuff. As the

465
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: recording of this podcast, it's been submitted but not yet approved. Yeah,

466
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: so there. I don't know if the automatic photo feature

467
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: will work with those phones, I you know, and I

468
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: don't know if there will be something coming for Windows

469
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: Phone or or web os. Um. We'll see. Yeah, But

470
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: like a lot of BlackBerry, like a lot of services

471
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: and products that we're seeing launch these days. Uh, it's

472
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: really effective if you subscribe to a particular ecosystem in

473
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: this case Google's, so using Google Plus on Google Chrome

474
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: and having an Android phone. It works. I mean it

475
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: works really seamlessly because all those products are coming from

476
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: the same company. But when you start mixing matching, your

477
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: experience may vary. Yeah. There's another feature, um, and that

478
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: that Jonathan and I tried out pretty much immediately, and

479
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: that's called the huddle. Yes, Um, this is this relates

480
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: to uh two phones. Yes, So a huddle is like

481
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: having a group messaging system on phones. So everyone who

482
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: is in a huddle needs to have uh a phone

483
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: number attached to their Google Plus account, or they have

484
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: to have the the Google Plus app installed on their

485
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: their phones. Um. And what you do is you set

486
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: it up and you can send out a message. Let's

487
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: say that I want to have get together after work

488
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: one day and just hang out of the restaurant, have

489
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: some appetizers and talk about what's been going on in

490
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: the company. There might be three or four people I

491
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: want to invite, so I add all of them to

492
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: my Google Plus huddle and I send out a message.

493
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: That message will go to all of those people, and

494
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 1: then all of those people can respond to that message

495
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: and everyone can see each other's responses. It becomes kind

496
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: of like a chat room via text message, but only

497
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: among that group of people. And again this is functionality

498
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: that reminds me of Google Wave and also other services

499
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: like Beluga. There are group messaging services Beluga, there are

500
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: other group messaging services. Chris gave me a look, and

501
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 1: I can tell you wanted to do the bulbous bouffont Beluga,

502
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: which my wife hates um. But the yeah, there there

503
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: are other messaging services group messaging services that are doing

504
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: this right now. In fact, a lot of them were

505
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: launching around south By Southwest and we're making a big,

506
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: big splash there. Google Huddle is kind of Google's version

507
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: of this. Now, that was one of the workarounds too.

508
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: If you added someone to a Google Huddle, then in

509
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: order for them to be able to use the Huddle,

510
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: they were given a link to log into Google Plus,

511
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: and that's how they ended up getting accounts even though

512
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: they didn't have an official invite UM and the invitations

513
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: at that point had been closed. And yet a lot

514
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: of people found that workaround. Again, that's been patched since

515
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: the since since it first happened, took a couple of

516
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: days before Google caught on, or maybe they caught on,

517
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: but they let it happen anyway because they're like, well,

518
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: this is letting the population base expand, but it's not

519
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: expanding at a rate that's outside of our comfort zone.

520
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, um. And there's hangouts yea. Hangouts are awesome.

521
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: I haven't tried to hang out yet. I've tried it

522
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: and it is. It is addicting. So a hangout is

523
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: a video chat session. You can start a hangout with

524
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: specific people if you want to, or you can start

525
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: a hangout and just make it public where anyone who

526
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: follows you will see the hangout and can join. And

527
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: a hangout is you need a web cam and a

528
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: microphone and speakers in order for this to work, so

529
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: that you can hear people, they can hear you, and

530
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: they can see you, and up to ten people total

531
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: can be in a hangout at one time, so it's

532
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: you and nine other people max. And the video switching

533
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: is very clever. It switches to whomever is speaking at

534
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: the time, So if everyone's quiet and I'm talking, then

535
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: the main video will be me as I'm chatting. As

536
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: someone else starts to talk, the video will switch to

537
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: that person, and uh the focus changes to them. And

538
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: if two people are talking, whomever' is the loudest will

539
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: have their video featured as the central video, and so

540
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: you'll actually see uh if in a full hangout, you'll

541
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: see one main screen of the person who's talking, and

542
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: then you'll see the other nine miniaturized like thumbnail sized

543
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: screens below, and it's all moving, you know, like you're

544
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: seeing video from all those feeds at one time. It

545
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: can get a little buggy depending upon people's um data

546
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: transfer rates. You know, if you're if you're on a

547
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: slow UH, if you're not really on a high speed

548
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: broadband connection, you're gonna have some problems with this. There'll

549
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: be some lag. UM I was. I was having some

550
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: really bad lag when I was doing it, because I

551
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: think there were a couple of different uh choking points

552
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: in the in the data transfer. So I would say

553
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: something and then about three or four seconds later, I

554
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: would hear myself say it. So I'm responding to something

555
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: that someone is saying right now, but then three or

556
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: four seconds later there I'm starting to hear it. So

557
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: there'd be a gap between when I'm talking when they're talking,

558
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: so you know, they might stop asking me a question

559
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: stop I don't answer. Then they start asking if I'm there,

560
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: and that's when my answer is starting to hit and

561
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: I got a little muddled. But on a fast connection,

562
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Yeah. And then of course, right after

563
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: all this happened, Facebook had an amazing, awesome announcement. Yeah,

564
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: they're video chat, which is uh partnership with Skype and

565
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: allows you one on one video chat with another person

566
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: on Facebook. It's a difference system, right, Like you can

567
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: use a hangout and just talk to one person if

568
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: you want to, but you can also talk to a

569
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: group of people, whereas with Facebook video Chat right now,

570
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: as the recording of this podcast, it's a one on

571
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: one scenario. So um, Facebook may not necessarily see Google

572
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Plus as an immediate competitor, but you can bet that

573
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: the company will be watching Google Plus to see what

574
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: features are added next. I mean, uh, and I don't

575
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 1: think Google Plus is what Google would consider a finished

576
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: product even you know, assuming that the features are all robust,

577
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: they open the floodgates and anyone can join. You have

578
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: two hundred million people on there. I think they will

579
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: continue to add new features and new functionality. For example,

580
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: something that I I don't know expect might be a

581
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: strong word, but seriously wouldn't be surprised if it happened

582
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: would be games, which has been a huge driver of

583
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: traffic to Facebook. Adding adding other kinds of in uh

584
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: insight apps like that I think would would not be

585
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: a shock at all. Just opening up an a p

586
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: I would be pretty And you already have starting to

587
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: see some extensions for for Google Chrome that are specifically

588
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: designed for Google Plus, things like allowing you to reply

589
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: specifically to the person who posts. We didn't talk about that.

590
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: When you do post, people can leave comments on that post,

591
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: just like in Facebook, on a wall wall post or Whitter,

592
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: people can reply. Yeah, plus one is kind of like

593
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: voting up or a comment or saying that you know,

594
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: I really like this, so I'm adding a plus one

595
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: to it. It changes the way it displays on other

596
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: people's streams. Um, but yeah, we should We should mention

597
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: that quickly. Like in Twitter, you can reply to someone

598
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: and in general only you and the other person are

599
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: really seeing that conversation unless other people are following both

600
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: of you. Right, So if I reply to Chris. People

601
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: only Chris and I would see that reply unless other

602
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: people are following both of us. Uh. Now with Google Plus,

603
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: it's more like Facebook and that I can make a

604
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: comment and then someone else can comment on that. Anyone

605
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: following me can comment on that if I've made it

606
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: public and then or and you can disable comments as

607
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: well if you don't want people commenting on something um

608
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: and then other folks can comment and it becomes a discussion.

609
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: In fact, I've had a few discussions like that pop

610
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: up on Google Plus. Recently. I said, wouldn't it be

611
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: cool to use the hangout feature to have a D

612
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: and D game where everyone in the hangout is playing

613
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: D and D. You have one person being the dungeon

614
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: master and everyone else is playing a character. And you

615
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: could do that. You could have people from other states

616
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: log in and play the game all at the same time.

617
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: So or any other game for that matter. Yeah, you

618
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: could really do that with any game, although once you

619
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: start getting into things like board games or whatever, it

620
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: gets a little more complex. Some games you wouldn't be

621
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: able to do, like like poker, because how are you

622
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: going to deal with all those cards in? You know,

623
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: you have to have a video poker game going at

624
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: the same time, which makes them a little more complicated anyway,

625
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, any any role playing type game like that. Yeah,

626
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: board games you could do too, if everyone had a

627
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: copy of the board game. Yeah, but you have to

628
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: all right, you have to move me forward three squares?

629
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: Is everyone on Baltic Avenue? Good? Next turn? Uh? So

630
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: that's but another feature we should talk about very quickly

631
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: is Sparks. Oh yeah, Sparks. Sparks is kind of like

632
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Google Reader in a way. You tell Google Plus what

633
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: what topics you are interested in, and then Google Plus

634
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: kind of cultivates a news feed based on whatever interests

635
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: you've told it apply to you. So, for example, I've

636
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: said technology, if I go to my Sparks technology uh feed,

637
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: then I will see news articles that are related to

638
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: technology within Sparks. Um. That's kind of an feature that

639
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: people have noticed and said, well, you know, it's it's

640
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: just not fully baked yet. So that's something I expect

641
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: that we'll see more uh evolution in in the near

642
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: future for Google Plus. Yeah. I think the idea behind

643
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: the name Sparks is it's supposed to spark a conversation

644
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: so you see a cool story, you post it to

645
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: your stream and then you and your friends have a

646
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: conversation with it. And I it does that, but you

647
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: know it's I in looking through the sparks that I've

648
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: added to my pis. Oh yeah, if you if you

649
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: add one, say you add technology to your Google Plus account,

650
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: you'll see it on the left hand navigation, um, along

651
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: with you know things like your you know lists for

652
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: your circles and you know the other the other features

653
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: people who are available for Google Chat that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah,

654
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: so um, so it's available to you whenever. Um. But yeah,

655
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: I just when I go in there, I just find

656
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: a few stories and it's not really a very long list.

657
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: It's not very compelling. Yet, Uh, the idea is there,

658
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean the I I see nothing wrong with the idea,

659
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: and I think they need to And I think this

660
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: is Google's response to the trend of people getting information

661
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: and news through stuff like Facebook. Like their friends shares

662
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: an article that's that that their friend thought was really

663
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: cool and then you see it on Facebook and you're

664
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: like huh, and you click on the link and you

665
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: read the article and you're like, yeah, that was interesting.

666
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: Google's kind of taking that and trying to incorporate it

667
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: directly into the social experience so that you aren't you

668
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: know you aren't. You don't have to move very far

669
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: away from Google in order to do it. Also, we

670
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: should mention that Google Plus has a notifications bar that

671
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: tells you when people have interacted with your your Google

672
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Plus account in some ay, maybe that they started to

673
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: follow you. It may be that they left a message

674
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: for you. They they've mentioned you in a comment, They've

675
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: applied to one of your status is uh. The cool

676
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: thing is, if you're on any Google site, so including

677
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Google dot com just the web browser, if you're signed

678
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: into Google, that notification bar is at the top of

679
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: your screen, and you can actually look at those notifications

680
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: in real time on that that page and respond to

681
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: them without ever actually traveling to your Google Plus account.

682
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: So I might be on Google dot com doing research

683
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: for an article and I see a notification thing pop up,

684
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, com wonder what's going on? Click on it,

685
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: see that someone's commented on one of my pages. I

686
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: wanna comment back. I can type in a comment on

687
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: that notifications page and send it back without ever actually

688
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: going to my Google Plus uh. Profile and um, we

689
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: also need to talk really briefly at least about photo albums. Okay.

690
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: I was going to add to about about that that

691
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: you can also turn on email if you really want

692
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: you and that I gave a bad idea if you

693
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of followers, because you will start getting

694
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: but you could. You can do the same thing as

695
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: you would with Twitter or or Facebook and say yes,

696
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: I want to know, send me an email every time,

697
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: or or text message every time someone you know fill

698
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: in the blank. It's pretty much everything sends me a

699
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: message gives me a plus one. You can choose. You

700
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: can choose which ones give you alerts and which ones don't.

701
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: And uh. For for an average user, it may make

702
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: sense to have email notifications turned on for me because

703
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: I have people following me. It would be it would

704
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: overwhelm my email. Yeah, I would, And I learned very quickly,

705
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: like day two of Google Plus, to turn all that

706
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: off for me. Um. And and you know, I know

707
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: that there are people who are far more popular than I,

708
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: and I can only imagine what their email would have

709
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: looked like, like like Veronica Belmont or Fleicia Day or Will Wheaton.

710
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: You know some of these people who have way more

711
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: visibility than I do. I'm sure their accounts would have

712
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: been overwhelmed in a second. But um, yeah, please go

713
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: into photo albums. I do have one other thing I

714
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: want to mention before we finish. Okay, So yeah, photo

715
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: albums are using Picasa, Google's photo web photo album service

716
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: as the foundation. Although Picasa will undergo a name change

717
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: pretty soon. I think that's gonna be Google Plus Photos

718
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: or something like that. So but it's it's the same

719
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: service so Picasa. Normally, if you sign up for a

720
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: Picasa account, which really you can do. If you have

721
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: a Google account your you can create a Picasa account.

722
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: You are normally given one gigabyte of storage space for photos,

723
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: which is not really that much. Um. But with Google Plus,

724
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: if you upload photos through Google Plus, it will automatically

725
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: resize your photos so that the longest edge of your

726
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: photo is two thousand, forty eight pixels long, all right,

727
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: will automatically resize it. So whatever the longest edges gets

728
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: reduced to that size and at that resolution, it does

729
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: not count against your one gigabyte of storage space. So

730
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: if you upload the Google Plus you effectively have unlimited

731
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: digital photos storage. I tested this and I have a

732
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: photo album on my profile that has one thousand photos

733
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: in it. That's the maximum number of photos you can

734
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: have in a photo album. Now, you can have unlimited

735
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: photo albums in Google Plus, so you're not limited that way.

736
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: It's just that each individual photo album can only have

737
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: a thousand files in it. And uh, I recently took

738
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: a vacation in Europe, and so I have a thousand

739
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: photos from my vacation in Europe in that photo album.

740
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: And I probably have about two thousand more photos I

741
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: need to upload from that vacation, so they'll be most impressive.

742
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: There'll be at least three photo albums of my vacation

743
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: photos on Google Plus. Now, you gotta keep in mind

744
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lower resolution than your original file, assuming,

745
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: of course, you took it with a decent digital camera.

746
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: Uh So, the photo that you get on Google Plus

747
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: is not going to be suitable for printing out, for example,

748
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: or enlarging. Um So you will need to find some

749
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: other method at a storage if you want to keep

750
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: the photo at the original resolution. Um The thing I

751
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about was your Google profile. If you want,

752
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: If this sounds interesting to you, you don't already have

753
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: a profile on Google Plus. You'll need a Google account.

754
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: And this is you know, the account works for everything

755
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: from Google Plus to Google Docs and all the other things. Um,

756
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: if you already have a profile and you've been keeping

757
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: it private, UM, that's going to change one way or

758
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: the other by July thirty one. I'm not sure exactly

759
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: when this is gonna published. This may put some of

760
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: you at a really tight deadline. UM. I don't think

761
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people know this, but Google has plans

762
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: right now, as of the recording of this podcast, to

763
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: delete any profile that is not public by July thirty one.

764
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: And you have to have a name attached to your profile.

765
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you can't just create profiles like multiple

766
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: profiles and not have a and identity associated with that

767
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: profile right now. It doesn't necessarily have to be your

768
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: exact name. However, people, I have heard reports that people

769
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: with made up names have been questioned by Google, um

770
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: as they might on on Facebook. Um, you know, they

771
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: they want to make sure I guess that a real

772
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: human is behind it and they're not fooling around. But uh, yeah,

773
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean this this might cause some issues because I

774
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: know one of the people. Things that people complain about

775
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: about Facebook is that, you know, hey, I want to

776
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: I want to keep this between my close friends, the

777
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: people I know in real life, and my family. You know,

778
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be out there for everybody

779
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: to see. And this is no longer going to be

780
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: an option. The thing is, maybe you say, well, I've

781
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: had a Google account for ten years now, I have

782
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: Google account's been around him that long anyway, Um, I've

783
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: had a Google account for some time now, and you know, I,

784
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, I guess I'll change my name on Google Plus. Well,

785
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: if you do that, it changes it across your entire profile.

786
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: Um so if you want to rename your Google profile Horatio,

787
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: your Google Plus profile Horatio T. Wiggle Bottom, then people

788
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: who you send email to on Gmail will also see that,

789
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: and they may not realize that that's you, and then

790
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: they delete it and they make fun of you. Yes, know,

791
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily so that's the that's the thing. I

792
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, it's it's sort of unclear to me

793
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: whether they mean, you know, we will delete your profile,

794
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: meaning we will delete your entire Google account, or whether

795
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: they mean there will be nothing public about this account

796
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: at all, the the the what they call the profile itself.

797
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: It's what they're just talking about. And that's still unclear

798
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: to me as of right this minute, but I have

799
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: the feeling they're talking about the entire account and and

800
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean the whole point of this is it's a

801
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, to let you connect with other people. So sure,

802
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: keeping it private means that no one can connect with you. Yes,

803
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: but this this is happening regardless of whether you have

804
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: a Google Plus account or not. So yeah, but that's

805
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: because the Google Plus is on the foundation of that profile.

806
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: So it's it's forced that to happen. The profile is

807
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: the bottom of the pyramid is the problem. So um yeah,

808
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: so it's it's that's a concern some people have, um,

809
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: A concern I have. And again this is not necessarily

810
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: the concern of the average user, but it is for

811
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: people like Chris and myself and for people more notable

812
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: than us, is that people can create um the you know,

813
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: fake accounts or or accounts, uh, accounts claiming to be

814
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: people and it's not really that person. Well, you know.

815
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: One of the big things is, uh, this first couple

816
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: of weeks of Google Plus was that Mark Zuckerberg, the

817
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: founder of Facebook at a Google Plus profile and they

818
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: were pretty sure it was him because it was a

819
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: photo no one had actually seen of him before, and

820
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: the people he had in his circles were Facebook executives.

821
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: And then thousands of people followed him. Yes, as a

822
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: matter of fact, he was at one point, I don't

823
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: know if he still is, uh, the most followed person

824
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I heard a report that he actually left

825
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: he tightened up his privacy settings. Really, Mark Zuckerberg, you

826
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: tightened up your privacy settings? Yeah? I thought you said

827
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: no one wanted to do that. Good thing. It was

828
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: really easy to find, yes, Um, but uh. And I've

829
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: also heard reports as of today that he may have

830
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: actually deleted that account. But um, there are also dozens

831
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: of other Mark Zuckerberg's in there now. Yes, and I

832
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: know that, like Neil Gaiman, he end the Google Plus

833
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: account for a while, and then he made the conscious

834
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: decision to to to cut it out. He said it

835
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: was too much noise and it didn't work for him,

836
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: so he left. And then, um, he got irritated because

837
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: he started getting lots of emails from people trying to

838
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: add him into circles. But because he had left Google Plus,

839
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: he was getting those invites through email as opposed through

840
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Google Plus. So he deleted his account and then got

841
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: deluged by email. Um. Yeah, there's the thing I was

842
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: saying is that there should be are hopefully there will

843
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: be some point away to verify that you are who

844
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: you say you are, kind of like Twitter has verified accounts.

845
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: It would be nice to have a verified account through

846
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: Google Plus. Because I noticed last night that I had

847
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: a quote unquote celebrity following me named Selena Gomez. Uh yeah,

848
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: so uh the Bebes Main Squeeze and um, and so

849
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, why is the Beeb's main squeeze following me?

850
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: And so I decided to do a little investigative work

851
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: and noticed that it was not truly her. People who

852
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: had gone into a hangout with this person said, no,

853
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: this isn't really Selena Gomez. It's a it's a fake

854
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Speaker 1: account from a fan, which, you know, whether you believe

855
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Speaker 1: that's ethical or unethical is beside the point. The point

856
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: being that you know, you kind of want to know

857
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: the people you're talking to are the people that you

858
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: think they are, right. You don't want to be misled.

859
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: You may have a genuine interest in following someone who

860
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: is either celebrity or other notable figure. But uh, you know,

861
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: you don't mind the fact that they're not following you.

862
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: You just want to get that information. Let's say it's

863
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: a politician or it's someone, uh like a notable author

864
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: already in a particular field that you're interested in. You

865
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: don't want to be following a fan of that person

866
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: because you're not actually getting the information you wanted. So

867
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: that's that's an issue with Google Plus. As of the

868
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: recording of this podcast. Yeah, there there are apparently corporate

869
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: accounts on the way, so yeah, right there, when that happens,

870
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: there will be a house stuff works dot com account, yeah,

871
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: tech stuff account, And I applied for a tech stuff account.

872
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, yesterday, So if that happens, I haven't received

873
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: any information back about that yet, but that's that's coming,

874
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, because right now, it's supposed to just

875
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: be people. That's what Google Plus was designed to do.

876
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: And they said, you know, we understand there are corporations

877
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: that want to use this as a way of connecting

878
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: with their customers, um, their partners, etcetera. But it's just

879
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: not designed for that. They're working on that right now.

880
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: They being the Google Plus team. Yeah, I think I

881
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: think that they have that Google has done a much

882
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: better job with this than it did with Wave and

883
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: and and definitely buzz and definitely work it. Um is

884
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: it a Facebook killer? While I can't stand the Blank

885
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: killer thing. I think it can definitely grow into a

886
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Facebook rival and that will be good. I think the

887
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: competition will be good for Facebook. They don't really have

888
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: at this point a serious competitor. My Space was probably

889
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: the last one, and it's at least a serious competitor

890
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: and host the world. Yeah, and there are a few

891
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: places where things like or are actually sure yeah five um,

892
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean worldwide. Uh. Facebook is still a

893
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: pretty big um juggernauty million users is huge. Yeah. Yeah.

894
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: So I think I think that given time and some

895
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: added features and some refinement, I think Google Plus is

896
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: off to a very good start. Yeah. And it may

897
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: very well just be a complementary service. It may never

898
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: be one that replaces Facebook, because that wasn't necessarily what

899
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: it was intended to do. It may be that you

900
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: go to Facebook for certain kinds of interaction and you

901
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: go to Google Plus for other kinds of interaction, and

902
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that, so um, we'll see. I

903
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: know there are a lot of people who are talking

904
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: about the fact that are going to just drop Facebook.

905
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: In fact, I've seen a lot of people who have

906
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: changed their profile pictures to say I have moved and

907
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: have the g Plus logo in there, which is cute.

908
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: Oh and I was gonna say about the clicks behavior.

909
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: Let's finish off with this because we are running along.

910
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: But the clickish behavior on Google Plus. I saw a

911
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: lot of people and I assume most of it was

912
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: joking about how you know, because they joined early. They

913
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: thought it would be cool to have a Google Plus

914
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: badge to show that you were one of the original

915
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: Google Plus beta testers before it went public, and that

916
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: this would set you apart. And uh, I happened to

917
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: be of the I mean, I jokingly said that would

918
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: be awesome, but I honestly think that would be a

919
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: bad idea because it would discourage people. It would it

920
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: would encourage a sense of clickishness and saying like I'm

921
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: superior to you because I managed to get an invite

922
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: to this social network, which, by the way, getting an

923
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: invite to a social network doesn't mean anything. It just

924
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: means you've got an invite or a work around, which means,

925
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, equally nothing. Um. The so I would say

926
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: that that's kind of would discourage new people from coming

927
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: in because they're like, oh, well, this is like a

928
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: closed off club. And also right now it's more or

929
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: less a boys club according to UH. To Mashable, UM,

930
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: there was a a survey done to see or a

931
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of an estimation done to see how many men

932
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: versus women are on Google Plus. Um. For a while,

933
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: like women made up about ten of the entire Google

934
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: Plus population. And when you think we're potentially over ten

935
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: million users, that's significant. According to Social Statistics, that percentage

936
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: is now closer to UH seventy three points seven percent,

937
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: So there are more females on Google Plus than there

938
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: were before, but still it's overwhelmingly a male population. So

939
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: we'll have to see. For Google Plus to really survive,

940
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see that expand beyond just the dudes. Yeah,

941
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: I think so. Al Right, we are wrapping this up.

942
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: Like we said, there's probably a billion other things we

943
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: could say about Google Plus right now, not to mention

944
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: the fact that by the time this publishes things may

945
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: have changed. UH. If you guys have the ability to

946
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: access it, search us out, or at least search me

947
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: out Chris. Chris is really good at at at maintaining

948
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: a nice low profile. I am one of those people

949
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: that prefers to keep my social networking down to people

950
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: actually know in real life. And I certainly mean no

951
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: offense to any of our listeners. No, it's there's nothing

952
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: wrong with that. Yeah, I I am a very extroverted

953
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: kind of guy who I'm like, look at me. So

954
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: it's just really different personalities. None of us have noticed. Yeah,

955
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: I know, you can't tell by the way I dominate

956
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: every single conversation. UM. Anyway you can. You can search up,

957
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: search us out, feel free and uh you know, depending

958
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: on how long it is from the time we published this,

959
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: we may be active on it, or we may have

960
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: given up on Google Plus because it's still early days.

961
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen a lot of Google product get

962
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: initial positive response only to kind of fade away over time,

963
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: so we'll see if this is one of those. UM. Also,

964
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: keep in mind Google Plus does have at least at

965
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: the recording of this podcast, and age limit. You have

966
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: to be eighteen years or older and uh tall, so

967
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: your mileage may vary on your success at getting into

968
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: Google Plus. If you guys have any suggestions for other

969
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: topics we should tackle, let us know. You can send

970
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: us an email that address is tech Stuff at how

971
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: stuff Works dot com, or you can let's know on

972
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: Facebook or Twitter or Hey Google Plus. If you're on there,

973
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: you can find me, but the text the text Stuff.

974
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter accounts are Text Stuff hs W. Look

975
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: for us on there, and Chris and I will talk

976
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,759
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