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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and this is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: And uh well it's the top of hour number two here.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little mock draft here. And I

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Speaker 1: just we got three shows this week Monday, Wednesday from

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Speaker 1: and then the combines here. So my thought is to

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do mock drafts to start off the second

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Speaker 1: hour of each one of.

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Speaker 2: These shows this week.

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Speaker 1: Today's show, we will do no.

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Speaker 2: Trades, but straight draft.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday's trade we get one, or Wednesday's draft we get

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Speaker 1: one trade, whether that be a first round trade, second

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Speaker 1: round trade, somewhere along.

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Speaker 3: We'll make account.

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Speaker 2: We get to make a trade.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Friday we'll go.

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Speaker 1: We'll go trade crazy.

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Speaker 2: We'll just acquire.

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Speaker 1: Picks and do everything we can do. I like it,

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Speaker 1: and see how it works out.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know how much mocking we'll do.

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Speaker 1: And we'll save all three of them, and Friday we'll

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Speaker 1: go over each one of them and see which one.

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Speaker 3: Let's go. I mean, I think even as we get

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Speaker 3: further in the process, we should say, hypothetically, they signed

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Speaker 3: a corner and a linebacker, so you already have two.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know much time to get hypothetical here because.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, Indy's so busy and we have some guests.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we'll be mocking much from Indie

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Speaker 3: or nod right, who even will be with on the air,

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Speaker 3: so we'll see. Yeah. So all right, all right, so we.

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Speaker 1: Get zero no trains here. We got to just make

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Speaker 1: the picks boom, all right, it is rolling. We're on

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Speaker 1: the Pro Football Focus drop. They've they've changed out the things, right,

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Speaker 1: They've changed up.

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Speaker 2: Some of their rankings here a little bit.

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Speaker 3: So it's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting now.

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Speaker 3: I think they do it like once or twice a

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Speaker 3: month or whatever where they kind of wholesale change it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I did some over the weekend. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that guy's never here in the second round then.

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Speaker 3: Right, or usually I can nail this guy. Yeah. You

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Speaker 3: start to fall into habits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's why it's good. All right. So

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Speaker 1: the picks ahead of us, Wow, there's some crazy picks

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Speaker 1: ahead of us here. Uh, Caleb Williams, Drake May Malik

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Speaker 1: neighbors at three.

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Speaker 3: I've heard a couple of people Kuiper was on listen

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Speaker 3: to his podcast this morning, saying, people in the leagueers

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Speaker 3: have said Harrison is not slammed dunk wide receiver one

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Speaker 3: on every board. I find that hard to believe. I do,

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Speaker 3: that's but neighbors in Rome are that good?

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Speaker 1: Why I texted you earlier today about that Patriots pick, Like,

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Speaker 1: is it crazy to think that they would just take

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Speaker 1: the receiver that they like the best and then send

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Speaker 1: their second round pick to to Chicago for justin Fields?

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Speaker 3: Or you could even be the levist team at the

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Speaker 3: top of round two and Nis or Pennix or move

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it's just if it's just a straight two, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And if you're Chicago, that's probably the best.

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Speaker 1: That's you're going to give. Nobody's gonna give you a first.

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Speaker 3: And then you pair them with Harrison. Not too bad?

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Speaker 3: And what's the chances the Patriots adore three quarterbacks? Probably slimming,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, they're not gonna teams just don't

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Speaker 1: No, you won't. Uh, Rock Joe all goes four, Rock

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Speaker 1: Bauers five quarterback sliding here.

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Speaker 3: So is Marvin Harrison gonna be on the board at

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Speaker 3: twenty Marvin Harrison six? Okay, I think that's a little crazy.

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Speaker 1: But Cooper Dejene seven. Wow.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you saw my tweet, but someone was

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Speaker 3: asking me about the gene. I said, my post combine

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Speaker 3: prediction is you are going to see him as first

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Speaker 3: defensive player off the board regularly two weeks from now.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna go bonkers and infatuated with him since.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but I think we're gonna laugh.

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Speaker 1: At our October of last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Roma Dunes Dunes at eight. Byron Murphy at nine.

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Speaker 1: That's as hoigh as I've seen him.

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Speaker 3: He's supposed to be a combine freak.

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Speaker 1: Too, yeah. Fishanu at ten wow? Early Yeah, Attorney Terry

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's all these corners. I thought the Steelers might

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Speaker 3: have a crack at.

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Speaker 2: Three corners in the first twelve.

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Speaker 1: QUINNYA.

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Speaker 2: Mitchell at thirteen. Wow, four corners in the first thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, Talisi Fluaga real quick?

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Speaker 3: I did my not my top two twenty list. I

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Speaker 3: mean how I picked him as a Steelers. But I said,

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Speaker 3: I did a podcast today of who would I be

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Speaker 3: happy with at twenty and those were the only four corners,

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Speaker 3: And I thought, and now I even said in the podcast,

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Speaker 1: Dallas Turner at fifteen, goody two at sixteen. Okay, Jackson

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Speaker 1: powers Johnson at seventeen.

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Speaker 3: I think that's I'm giving them like fifty percent chance

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Speaker 3: of even gett into twenty nine, especially with Miami's holes.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that in like an hour ago.

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Speaker 2: Jared Versy at eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Is Miami seventeen? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, Jack Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: They're the two landing splots are scary.

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Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels at nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot he was not even happen. What picks?

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Speaker 3: What team was that? The Rams? Yeah, there's no way

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Speaker 3: he gets twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so twenty. Wow, we're on the board,

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Speaker 1: we're in the clock. I should say.

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Speaker 3: There's not a corner.

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Speaker 1: I like, there's not a corner. I like Latham stands out.

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Speaker 3: And say there's tackles. I like, yeah, Geydon was.

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Speaker 2: A name, and Latham lath there, Membs is there. Graham

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if you don't fill the center need

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Speaker 3: Think I could take him at twenty. I think it's

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Speaker 1: Mina came out with his top fifty list today. He

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Speaker 1: has Barton ahead of Jackson, Powers, Johnson not much ahead

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Speaker 1: of him, but ahead of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I think it's a discussion, and it's worthy

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Speaker 3: of one. I'd have a hard time taking them over

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Speaker 3: this minute. Anyone else in competition.

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking here. Enis Rakestraw?

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Speaker 3: Is there?

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Speaker 1: Tyler Geiten? Is there newban a name?

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Speaker 3: I think I'm not ready to say yes, I would

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Speaker 3: take him at twenty, but I could be convinced. Is

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Speaker 3: the receiver from LSU Thomas, But I just don't think

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Speaker 3: it's a big enough need. I mean for the Steelers

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Speaker 3: convinced then. But it's a deep receiver draft too, so

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Speaker 3: I'm not lobbying for that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Latham stands out. I like him

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Speaker 1: better than Mems, I like him better than Guyton.

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Speaker 3: I don't have an order of those three yet. But

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Speaker 3: I'm here. I'm with you I very much. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just I just think he's pro ready

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Speaker 1: and plug and play. The other two guys are less

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Speaker 1: experienced very much, So you know, I just think you

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: So now we're up at fifty two. It picks right

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Speaker 1: ahead of us. Jermaine Burton, the wide receiver at Alabama,

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Speaker 1: goes to the Giants, I said, David Justin, Yeah, forty eight,

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Speaker 1: Kingsley Sue Mattaia at forty nine, Shop Robinson at fifty,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Polk at fifty one, Mike Santistrol. Okay, none of

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Speaker 1: those will we were getting him, yeah, yeah, later that

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: The top players available, Roman Wilson, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: We've seemed to have been falling into him in the

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Speaker 3: second round. Have a problem with it. Edrian Cooper, Wow,

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Speaker 3: that's intriguing. That's intriguing.

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Speaker 1: Javon Bullard, Jaden Hicks, Kyrie Jackson has moved all.

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Speaker 2: The way up in their rankings.

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Speaker 3: He's not going third round.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not going to be that.

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Speaker 2: We're getting him in the fourth round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins, Jonathan Brooks, Klen Bullock, Ricky pier Saw, Chris.

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Speaker 3: Jenkins has grown on me more and more.

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Speaker 1: The Aale. How freaky he was athletically? Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Junior Colson.

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Speaker 3: There was the first two names were really intriguing. Wilson

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Speaker 3: and the A and M linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Wilson and Cooper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. What what are the corners available? Though? I mean,

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Speaker 3: let's see, I just don't love.

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Speaker 1: Waiting Kyrie Jackson, Jerry and Jones, cam Hart, Chris Abrams,

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Speaker 3: I don't think any of them are worth the pick.

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Speaker 3: And Jarvis Brownlee, but they're those guys are gonna go

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Speaker 1: They may not A couple of yeah, teams above us

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Speaker 3: They've gone gone by crazy, right, there's a lot off

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Speaker 1: They're gonna double down on it. Probably not one or

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Speaker 1: two of those guys have be gone. Will probably get

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Speaker 3: I don't want to take one now. I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 3: I mean I would definitely rather have Wilson or Cooper

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Speaker 3: on corners, that's that's one thing I don't love them,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's that's happened in this particular.

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Speaker 1: I know we haven't done it a lot, but Cooper's

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Speaker 1: kind of growing on me a little.

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Speaker 3: Cooper's kind of growing on me too. He covers a

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Speaker 3: lot of ground, He's really good in coverage, he's got length.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be between him and Cole, him and Colson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Cooper and what are you looking for?

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Speaker 1: You know? Do you want to run the downhill kind

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Speaker 1: of run stopper guy? Do you want the guy who

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Speaker 1: covers a lot of ground?

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Speaker 3: I think I prefer Cooper. Yeah, I do too, but

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Speaker 3: I like both players. Yeah, Cooper's stood. Okay, we haven't

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Speaker 3: gone linebacker whole. We're back up here now. So right

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Speaker 3: tackle and linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Eighty four top players available. Jalen Right, the running back

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Speaker 3: I think he's center as well.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Jerry and Jones, the cornerback out of Florida State,

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Speaker 1: Cedric van Pran, that's so bad. Blake Korum Marshawn neland.

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Speaker 1: I mean, depending on what happens in free agency, Mohawkan

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Speaker 3: You probably aren't.

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Speaker 1: You probably aren't going to take one.

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Speaker 3: And that's I mean for our exercise. They don't have

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Speaker 3: I'd probably go Van Prian over of the two. Mahogany

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Speaker 1: So Mahogany he didn't play in twenty twenty two, but

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Speaker 3: I thought Mahogany also had center background or some are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of like Max Melton Melton too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: There in the Kayling King out of Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I know he's following, but you take him in

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Speaker 3: Some guys name. I'm very high on Viskai, very intrigued

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Speaker 1: But you know, no, no, it's not. Okay, we're up

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Speaker 1: here now at back to back fours, back to back

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Speaker 1: for's top players available, Max Melton, Tyke Smith, Mohammed Kamara

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Speaker 3: Same with corner. Yeah. Like I feel like Melton is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of with you there. Kayln King is

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Speaker 1: also still there. This guy's kind of interesting. Logan Lee

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Speaker 3: Him the position.

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Speaker 1: Defensive tackle six five ninety one, so he's big enough

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: That Iowa defense was nasty, very nasty. Coach.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's going to be tough. I know nothing

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Speaker 1: Not a huge sack numbers there five the last two seasons.

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Speaker 1: But he's an interior defensive lineman that doesn't necessarily bother me.

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Speaker 1: And he plays in a big ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have any problems fighting you on him and

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Speaker 3: Melton right here?

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Speaker 2: His run defensive grade real good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some guy? Yeah, so real quick. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think that's a great option. What receivers are out there, Let's.

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Speaker 1: Take a look at it might just not go, it

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Speaker 1: might not get one. Yeah, you're looking at Cornelius Johnson

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Speaker 2: He's tiny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting player, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: Taj Washington at a USC, Isaiah Williams, Luke McCaffrey, Casey

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Speaker 3: It's Central Florida kids along.

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Speaker 1: Gone, I assume it's pretty picked over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we go Melton and you're in Lee, Okay, so.

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Speaker 2: Melton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Melton's a tough guy too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that Rutgers defense was pretty good last year.

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Speaker 3: They have that, they kind of have that reputation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you want to go with defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with Lee.

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Speaker 1: The other one is Christian Boyd out of.

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Speaker 3: Like An, Iowa.

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Speaker 1: It's another one. He's he also like fits a profile. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's like six three three fifteen like he's a little

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Speaker 3: Guy that I'm sure he was dominant there.

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Speaker 1: Three sacks last year. You'd like to see more from

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Speaker 1: that high? Where's he at? Here to find him? Logan

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Speaker 1: Lee Lee, Yeah, let's let's take him. It's a name

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet he's tough and physical and in shape

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Speaker 3: and yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: We are up now at one ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Receivers are gonna be slim.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'll read him off here for you.

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Speaker 1: So you got Joshua Cephas at Asa, David White out

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Speaker 1: from North Carolina. I'm just not interested in any of that.

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Speaker 3: Now, I say, none of those names are doing anything

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Speaker 3: for me. How about safety?

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Speaker 1: You get Jalen Green from Mississippi State. Let me see here,

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Speaker 1: Omar Brown from Nebraska, Trey Taylor from air Force, Dominic

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Speaker 1: Hampton from Washington, Tyler Owens from Texas Tech, Kenny Logan

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Speaker 3: We're getting the neighborhood. Royn't know a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just taking a look here. Well, Green didn't

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Speaker 3: May it's for the only region is still there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Omar Brown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think we're done on O line.

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Speaker 3: He didn't get a receiver and didn't like and receivers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If there was a true nickel corner, I'd be interested,

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Speaker 3: but the safety slash corner market wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Let's take aak at the corners. Johnny Dixon is there

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Speaker 1: out of Penn State, Josh Wallace out of Michigan, day

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Speaker 1: Kwon Hardy out of Penn State. Miles Harden from South Dakota.

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Speaker 1: I think now he's he's a bigger guy. I thought

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Speaker 3: He played he played special team, the slot guy.

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Speaker 1: Now yeah, uh, this is where it gets tough. There's

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Speaker 1: It's not horrible. Yeah, mm hmmm mm hmmm.

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Speaker 3: Let's see any best available is doing anything for you.

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Speaker 3: It happened to be a tight end. You'll love.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Green is the best available out of Mississippi State,

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Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, he's a six to one, two hundred

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Speaker 3: That would be fine.

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Speaker 2: He did do some slot work.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know enough about him, but.

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Speaker 1: Sixty one hundred and sixty in the slot last year,

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Speaker 1: two twenty two deep, three oh one in the box.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Well, the fact that, I mean, it's kind of cheating,

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Speaker 3: but the fact that he's their best available and we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking here to see if.

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Speaker 3: You said he didn't play much last year. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: Javan Cohen's there.

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Speaker 1: Huh, he's not bad, No, he's not.

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Speaker 3: And went with out add another lineman, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, take another lineman. Tyron Hopper's there, the linebacker at Missouri,

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Speaker 1: and we drafted one. But yeah, yeah, nothing nobody jumping

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Speaker 1: out there at me.

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Speaker 3: This part of the draft seems rough this year.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ford's available. He shouldn't be available. No, he shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be Where he took a linebacker?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you have room for him.

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Speaker 1: Do you take the safety?

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Speaker 3: Make you take the safety? Okay, Jalen Green it is Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know enough about him, but right.

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Speaker 1: I have to find out some stuff. But okay, we

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Speaker 1: are up now at two thirty eight. The best available

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Davis. They're running back out of South Dakota State,

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Speaker 1: Donovan Jennings, a tackle from USF. Tip Ryman, tight end

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in tag.

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Speaker 1: You got Darius Massau, linebacker from UCLA. Raheem Ali or

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Speaker 1: Rashein Ali. I shoulday. They're running back from Marshall, Trey Knox,

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Speaker 1: the tight end from South Carolina, Travan Wallace, now Travan Wallace.

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Speaker 1: When I believe it was Field Yates, No, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: had the Steelers taking Travan Wallace in the first round

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Speaker 1: in the first round, in the first round his mock

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Speaker 1: draft here. He is still available in the seventh or Now,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean either one of them or right, but

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Speaker 1: it's probably somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 3: I'll still bet he's not going the first round.

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Speaker 1: I bet he's not going in the first round. He

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Speaker 1: probably won't go into seventh round. But yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just mentioned that.

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Speaker 3: It just struck me because we remember when we saw it.

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Speaker 2: We're like, I'm fine taking Tago vi Lo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, why not.

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Speaker 2: I think that's we're gonna take four to camp.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna take four to camp. He's probably gonna be

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Speaker 1: Right, Tago Vilo it is. Let's see how we do.

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Speaker 1: All right. We got a B plus for taking JC

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Speaker 1: Latham in the first round and a minus for Edrian

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Speaker 1: Cooper in the second round.

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Speaker 3: A little shock to you, still there.

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Speaker 2: A B plus for Cedric van Pran in round three.

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Speaker 3: I don't love it, but it's a quality pick and

445
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Speaker 3: he would probably play a lot.

446
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Speaker 1: In A for Max Milton, I just pick one. Uh.

447
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Speaker 1: We got a C minus for Logan Lee because they

448
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Speaker 1: had him ranked one thirty seven. We took him at

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Speaker 1: one twenty one. I don't care about that. Yeah, fair enough,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Green because he was the best player available. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we get that, yea like that, And we got a

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Speaker 1: C plus for Tago vi Loa, so overall we got

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Speaker 1: a B plus.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's save that because compared to the it'll

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Speaker 3: probably be our least favorite because we couldn't trade at all,

456
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: but we were. It wasn't like we were unhappy to

457
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Speaker 3: take Latham though, either.

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Speaker 1: No, right, I mean I think you got some potential

459
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Speaker 1: starters there.

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Speaker 3: I think Latham starts immediately, yeah, Van fran might you know,

461
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Speaker 3: so you added to linemen from huge schools. Cooper's probably

462
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Speaker 3: in your mix somewhere, yeh yeah, yeah, I mean I

463
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Speaker 3: would think he's by mid season, should be the starter, yeah,

464
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Speaker 3: or playing a lot. Yeah, help special teams a little

465
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Speaker 3: bit too. Yeah. I mean you get some dudes there, safety, linebacker, corners,

466
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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, so cool with it. That was today's

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Speaker 1: mock draft. We'll come back on Wednesday. We're allowed to

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Speaker 1: make one trade. One trade cognizant of.

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Speaker 2: What how we use it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get to our first round pick and no

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Speaker 1: trade offers.

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Speaker 3: This first round, though, is a little different. I mean

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Speaker 3: it will definitely have mixed things up their rankings and

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Speaker 3: those type of things, so it'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: They're run on corners. Was surprising.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's I'm liking this corner crop more

478
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Speaker 3: and more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to push down the offensive, for the corners, to

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Speaker 1: push the offensive tackles down.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of surprising.

482
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Speaker 3: Three or four tackles we liked on the corner.

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Speaker 1: Usually it's it's flip flopped little yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see maybe that's changing. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. Anyway, we're gonna get to a break.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with more right after this. Welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 1: Matt I made mention of Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty rankings.

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Speaker 1: He released that today, updated from one. Oh, let's take

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Speaker 1: a look here. I think has some different opinions on somebody.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he'll be the first tell you, I

494
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Speaker 3: mean these are all incomplete grades. He's still watching, he's

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Speaker 3: still learning. We have got testing and official heights and

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Speaker 3: weights on some of them and all those type of

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Speaker 3: things too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, So it's on NFL dot com. The interesting thing

500
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Speaker 1: here is if you click on the player's name, you

501
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Speaker 1: can go and see and zero lines write ups.

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Speaker 3: Oh they're out there now too.

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Speaker 2: They're out there.

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Speaker 3: They're always so hard to find.

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Speaker 1: But if you go to this to their draft site

506
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Speaker 1: and try to find everything is still last year stuff.

507
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Speaker 1: So the only guys you can look at are these

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Speaker 1: top fifty NFL.

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Speaker 3: I love you, but your website website rude, brutal.

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Speaker 1: Like I just had to. I looked at DJ's Top

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Speaker 1: fifty earlier. It was on the front page of the

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com website.

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Speaker 3: If it's not there, you can't find it.

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Speaker 1: And then it disappeared.

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Speaker 3: I just went back to find second before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I had to google Daniel Jeremiah Top

517
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Speaker 1: fifty to find it. Yeah, you had to know it

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Speaker 1: was there to know it was there.

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Speaker 3: And I loved the zerline stuff. I didn't know it

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Speaker 3: was there. I never clicked on the players names, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that that should be like on the front page with

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Speaker 3: the time. Poor guy does like five hundred right up.

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Speaker 1: So he is Caleb Williams number one. The comp on

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Speaker 1: this though, I clicked and look at some of these

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Speaker 1: earlier the who do you think the comp is for

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was actually going to say something along those

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Speaker 3: lines because they're claws in for the thirty third team today.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, he actually put this on reception perception. He

530
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Speaker 3: did a write up on Caleb Williams for the first

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Speaker 3: time compared him to Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: That's the comp Okay, yeah, wow, I don't know if bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of said probably a multiple pro bowler

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray type, has a hard time seeing in the

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Speaker 3: middle field because he's short, not quite as athletic as Kyler,

536
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Speaker 3: but playmaker obviously. But I think people want to hear

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Speaker 3: Mahomes right.

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Speaker 1: But that's that was some of the early comps. I

539
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Speaker 1: was like, Mahomes, No, he's not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's one of things about comps. I always

541
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Speaker 3: make this joke, who's remind you of, Oh, Lawrence Taylor,

542
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Speaker 3: Jim Brown?

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Speaker 1: You know, like, relax, he is at number two. He

544
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Speaker 1: is Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't believe, with all respect the neighbors in

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Speaker 3: Rome and those guys, Harrison's might be the best player

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Speaker 3: in this draft.

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Speaker 2: At Three he has Roma dounz O Connor.

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Speaker 3: I know he likes Rome better than Neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Four he is Drake may get it. Five is

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Speaker 1: Jaden Danielska. I don't see him falling like the mock. No,

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Speaker 1: that would be crazybe he doesn't go third, but he

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Speaker 1: won't go six. Six is Terry and Arnold.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I'm pretty impressed. He's tough, he's big, he's good

555
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Speaker 3: in man. I think he's noticeably better than kol Aid.

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Speaker 1: Seven is Malik Neighbors.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: Eight is Brock Bowers Yep.

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Speaker 3: Not for everyone probably, but in a generic list, he

560
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Speaker 3: has to be high.

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Speaker 2: Nine is Joe Alt.

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Speaker 3: Probably the lowest you'll see him, but that's I'm sure

563
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Speaker 3: it's not a slight. Those guys ahead him are pretty strong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Ten is Dallas Turner.

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Speaker 3: Hmm, okay, this is interesting.

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Speaker 1: At eleven he has to Lasi Fuaga, the offensive tackle

567
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Speaker 1: from Oregon State.

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Speaker 3: I remember watching the Senior Bowl while DJ was, you know, broadcasting.

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Speaker 3: It's saying, I'm just gonna keep moving him up. I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna keep moving him up. But he's ahead of

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Speaker 3: the Penn State dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is what's interesting because yeah. For Shanhu is

574
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Speaker 3: in at twelve, okay, I'm but he doesn't fall too far.

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Speaker 3: Is that out of sight out of mind or is

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Speaker 3: that you know? Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: At thirteen, the guy we just got in the first round, JC.

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Speaker 1: Latham, Okay, interesting, right after those other three guys.

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Speaker 3: He's a beast.

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Speaker 1: I think he's good. Yeah, he's really good. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a crusher. At fourteen is Versy, the edge rusher

582
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Speaker 1: out of Florida State.

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Speaker 3: I haven't watched the edge guys a lot year, You're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean I read about him a little bit, but

585
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Speaker 3: I can't decipher them heavily.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen is Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 3: I'm a believer. I don't think he'll be a Steeler,

588
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Speaker 3: but I'm a believer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen is Troy Fatanu, Okay, I get it. Seventeen is

591
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Speaker 1: Tyler Giton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of good tackles in this class.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen is our Marius Mens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Five in the top eighteen, which is exactly the opposite

596
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Speaker 1: of what happened in our market went.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So those last two I'm not saying they're gonna

598
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Speaker 3: rise up boards because the people had of them are great,

599
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: but they're going to be hard to miss it in

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Speaker 3: Indian Yeah, in spandex and the way they look, you know,

601
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Speaker 3: Mims and Geit and they're freaky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At nineteen Quinya Mitchell, that's his number two corner.

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00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 3: That seems to be status quo pretty much on him.

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Speaker 1: Twenty is the guy we just got in the second

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Speaker 1: round Edgar and Cooper.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I was shocked when his first top fifty how

607
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: high he had him and now he's even higher.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, twenty one is late too. Out of UCLA

609
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: medicals will be big for him, of course. Twenty two

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00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, I get it. I can see him being drafted.

611
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: The defensive tackles go before higher than what you usually think.

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00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in a shallow class. Can better get him

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Speaker 3: now or you don't him at all, and he's gonna

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Speaker 3: test really well.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three is bo Nicks.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't really seg me up, but yeah, he's probably

617
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Speaker 3: a solid starter.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four enus Rakestraw.

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Speaker 3: So I had to see him combine and stuff too.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much he'll do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the question with him is he going to run well?

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Speaker 1: Is he going to be a four to five to

623
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Speaker 1: five guy?

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't have him as someone I'm comfortable with

625
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: at twenty yet. But he's tough and he's yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: just I just don't know enough.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five Chop Robinson.

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00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: He felt pretty far in our mock last segment too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Twenty six this is kind of surprising davontees Walker. Really.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Senior Bowl was ugly for him. But

631
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Speaker 3: if you can overlook that and just say, boy, he

632
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: had a bad week.

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Speaker 1: He had really had a really bad week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but it was catching the ball stuff. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: that seems early though, I mean that's ahead of the

636
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Speaker 3: Florida State dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, a

637
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: lot of good receivers.

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00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: Twenty seven Jj McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go early.

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Speaker 2: I really do think you to be happy about that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not in love with him at all.

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00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says, I see some similarities to Alex Smith

643
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Speaker 1: coming out of college.

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00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: Spence was the first pick in the draft. He's a

645
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: low ceiling guy.

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00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: Twenty eight Cherson Newton.

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00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: Okay, again, probably not for the Steelers.

648
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you play one of those two, if you take

649
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: one of those two defensive tackles. If you're the Steelers,

650
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: now you're moving kellanhu Benton to the defensive end.

651
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but neither one would be a nose nose.

652
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: Maybe more of a Javon Hargrave type thing.

653
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: Just penetrate and get up the field.

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00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: I mean, just put good players out there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine Cooper dejen.

657
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: Seems late, but he hasn't done anything lately. But that

658
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: shouldn't matter, shouldn't. I don't. I wouldn't take twenty eight

659
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: guys at of them.

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Speaker 1: I would not. Thirty Nate Wiggins another one seems a

661
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: little low, but okay. Thirty one Jordan Morgan out of Arizona.

662
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: The offense tackle. Seems a little early for me, but

663
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Speaker 3: I get it.

664
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Speaker 1: Thirty two Darius Robinson, the defensive tackle out of Missouri.

665
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I mentioned the Kuiper thing I was listening to.

666
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: Thinks he's a sure fire for rounder.

667
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: He looks there, seems like he looks the part. Uh.

668
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: Thirty three Graham Barton at a duke.

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00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: What's not the like? Yeah? You know what I mean?

670
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he's another one. It's like I don't see negatives.

671
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 1: Thirty four a Donnie Mitchell, the Texas wide receiver.

672
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: A lot of receivers in this neighborhood.

673
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Probably thirty five Jackson powers Johnson.

674
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: You mentioned earlier that Barton was ahead of JPJ, which

675
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: not much, but hey, yeah that's significant.

676
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Uh. Thirty six kool Aid McKinstry.

677
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: He doesn't blow my doors off. I don't see special

678
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: traits there. Yeah.

679
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: Thirty seven Zach Frazier.

680
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: Really wow?

681
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: Three centers three centers like four picks of each other. Okay,

682
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: that's why you're you may get one in round two,

683
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: you might not.

684
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say I don't love banking on round two

685
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: to get a difference making center. Yeah.

686
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: Thirty eight Keyon Coleman.

687
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: Okay, everyone's real curious what he wants, how he runs.

688
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: He'll jump out of the gym. I know that. Yeah.

689
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: Thirty nine Troy.

690
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: Franklin, Okay, he won't no problem run. He will not

691
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: have a problem running. Uh.

692
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Forty Michael Pennix Junior.

693
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: Okay, surprise, he's that much different than Nicks. But I

694
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: think it's just kind of you're like, the.

695
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Push him down a little bit. What's that the injury

696
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: stuff might push He could push him down a lot. Yeah.

697
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: Forty one Jatavian Sanders is tight end out of Texas.

698
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

699
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: Forty two Kamari Lasseter, cornerback out of Georgia.

700
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: You wonder if a guy like that could be there

701
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: in the second round. Maybe maybe, yeah, maybe he.

702
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: Could be your nickel.

703
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't be thrilled with him the first though.

704
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't. Forty three Xavier Worthy the other Texas

705
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver.

706
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an interesting player.

707
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: Forty four Lad McConkey receiver out of Georgia.

708
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: We'd be hard to rank the this neighborhood of for

709
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: they're all yeah, they're all different sizes, shape, Yeah right.

710
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: Forty five Junior Colson.

711
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: So that's his second line, the second line both in

712
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: the top fifty Yeah, okay.

713
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: Uh. Forty six Chris Braswell the other Alabama edge.

714
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: Rusher, another really good tester type.

715
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Forty seven Peyton Wilson, the linebacker. Benci states he's got

716
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: three of them, three in the top forty seven.

717
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean, I know the answer. But we've considered

718
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: and pulled the trigger on linebacker in a round two. Yeah, yeah,

719
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy.

720
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

721
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: Forty eight to and Andre Sweat.

722
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: Probably slipping a little. He's not for everyone either, but

723
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: he yeah, does what he does well.

724
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty nine Marshawn Neeland.

725
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: And a Western Michigan quality player.

726
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

727
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: And then his fiftieth player is Malachai Corley, the wide

728
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: receiver out of Western Michigan, considered Western Kentucky, Western Michigan,

729
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. You right next to each other on the

730
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: map to it.

731
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: I consider him in the second round though. Yeah. So

732
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: I like this top of the board. I mean, all

733
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: the tackles, all the receivers, all the corners. Center is

734
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: a conundrum for me, is it really is? I mean

735
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: part of me says, go give money to Cushion Berry

736
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: and not try to play that center roulette, you know,

737
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: so you can take tackles and corners and stuff. But

738
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: some of they's like, boy, there's three centers in this class

739
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: that are awesome. You got to get one. You be

740
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: great to get one, you know. Yeah, that parts boggling

741
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: in my mind.

742
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: I you don't get him in the first round, you

743
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: might not get it.

744
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: You might not get him right up for a center

745
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: and the free agencies over right, all right, and then

746
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: I might just take the bird in the hand and

747
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: sign one.

748
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you. So that that is Daniel

749
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Jeremiah's fifties. Yeah, he's got some different views on that stuff.

750
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to another break. He is, you know,

751
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson. I'm dal Lallie. You're listening to the

752
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to

753
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Speaker 1: finish up the show right after this. Welcome back.

754
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt.

755
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Speaker 1: We've talked about this a lot, but it keeps getting

756
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: thrown out there that the Steelers are somehow desperate at

757
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: quarterback right right, Like I weren't sharp put out a

758
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: thing the other day.

759
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: I saw it.

760
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: I thought it was a little harsh. You know, you've

761
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: been messing around with these you know, these young quarterbacks

762
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: for years and it's Doug goling, like did they not

763
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: make the playoffs last year?

764
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: Right right? I mentioned earlier their Super Bowl odds are

765
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: really really low, and I'm sure people are waiting for

766
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: like the other shoe to drop in terms of quarterbacks.

767
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: And but I'm still like the.

768
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: Same as the Raiders, you know, like he just don't

769
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: get it, and yet people are quick like so.

770
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: They're gonna make quarterback moves. We know that there's only

771
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: one on the team.

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00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com had their teams who are poised it's

773
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: super Bowl windows, okay, and the teams who have They

774
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: list eight teams who super Bowl windows are open right now.

775
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City for obvious reasons, sure, Detroit, Baltimore, okay, Dallas,

776
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Yeah, Cleveland, big word for them and the Jets.

777
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: First of all, the Bengals aren't on there.

778
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bengals are pretty high in terms of win loss,

779
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: but Cleveland is how about the Eagles. I mean, I

780
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: know they finished terribly, but if they get better coaching

781
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. And Jets are interesting

782
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: because I kind of see it. I mean, like there's

783
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: a huge elephant in the room with the Jets is

784
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: if Rogers's Rogers, with that defense.

785
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: You should be able to compete.

786
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: But actually, like but yeah, I mean, but they were

787
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: one of the worst teams in the league this last year.

788
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: I mean, they were not good. He's forty, and he's forty,

789
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: and he's something off an injury and there's not a

790
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: ton around him. Like Miami's not on that list.

791
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Miami's not on the list.

792
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: And I'm problem with that. I'm mu sure Cleveland should

793
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: be Cleveland. Deshaun Watson.

794
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: The story came out He's gonna start throwing the football

795
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: game in March.

796
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I didn't realize he was that far that

797
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: far off. Still, yeah, I figured he was would have

798
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: played right now if.

799
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: He's good, no, wow. Like, and the thing is about

800
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: we haven't seen him be. Like when people talk about

801
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers quarterback situation, well, get the worst quarterback situation

802
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: by far, and in the division. You know, they got

803
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: to compete with Deshaun Watson. Are you kidding me?

804
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: That's a thing.

805
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: Have you seen Deshaun Watson play lately?

806
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 3: That's what seems to get overlooked a lot. Like I understand, Hey,

807
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: if Rogers hits, they'll be good. Okay, if Watson hits,

808
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: they'll be good. I trust Rodgers a thousand times Moren't

809
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: I trust Watson to be good?

810
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: Right?

811
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: I mean he's good when he's out there.

812
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: We've seen what twenty games now of Watson.

813
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, over the last two seasons not be good and

814
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: then at a six hundred day rest or whatever before that.

815
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: You know, so it's been five years, four years since

816
00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: he was good.

817
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like people say, you know, Russell

818
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Wilson is still good.

819
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: I don't see it. I think they're like the same guy, like.

820
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: The same guy. Either one of them has been good

821
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: for five years.

822
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, I mean they're yeah, I hear you there,

823
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: and you know, back to the Steeler stuff. I don't

824
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: know this for a fact. I'm a predicting the future,

825
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: but I bet they get better quarterback play in twenty

826
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: twenty four than they do in twenty twenty three, right,

827
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, even if it's just Kenny, he's

828
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: going to take it. I would think he takes each

829
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: small step forward. Could be somebody else that lights the

830
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: world on fire. It could be Rudolph, it could be whoever.

831
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: You know.

832
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: But for the course of the season, the chances of

833
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: their quarterback play being worse next year than this year

834
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: I think is pretty slim. I would expect it to

835
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: be improved to some degree. Worse is And I'm not

836
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: saying it was the worst.

837
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: In the league or anything, But I don't even think

838
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: bet Like people were talking about Pickett like he was

839
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: complete and utter trash last year, like he went out

840
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: and threw eighteen interceptions and had When you talk about

841
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: the touchdown passes, the lack of touch I get it.

842
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.

843
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: But you also have to factor in the lack of turnovers.

844
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: And doing what it takes to win and all those

845
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: type of things. So I referenced Michael Bardi a lot.

846
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: I was listening to his podcast recently and they were

847
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: doing how This is Nonsense season and they talked about

848
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: the field situation. They talked about Cousins the Steelers, and

849
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: he's like, folks, I can tell you right now, the

850
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: Steelers still like Picket. Yes, they'd like some competition for him,

851
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: but they're not signing someone and just making them the

852
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 3: start a flushing picket, you know, Like they're like, there's

853
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: still stuff there. A lot of these like former GM

854
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: types that you've done this.

855
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: For actually understand how this stuff works.

856
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Randy Mueller is a big one. Him and Mike

857
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: Sando do a podcast once a week and he's like,

858
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: Pickett was my favorite one that that class. I still

859
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: think he's got a lot untap potential. You can't just

860
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 3: flush them, you know what I mean. And there's gonna

861
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: be somebody else in the midst.

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00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: The kid, the guy who does it third teams quarterbacks. Yeah, Clossom,

863
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: Derek Lawsum, Yeah, he had a piece today talking about

864
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: free agent signings. I think it was about the free

865
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: agent quarterback market, and he's like, I don't know if

866
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett ever starts another game for the Steelers.

867
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I don't think that.

868
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: I don't know that we're there.

869
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't either. I don't think the Steelers are there.

870
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: They're certainly not there. I think they're very happy that.

871
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: In fact, we talked about it last week on our show,

872
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: and then Jerry Dulek wrote the piece for the Post

873
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: Caazette over the weekend like no, Like, how many times

874
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: do the Steelers have to say? Mike Tomlin comes out

875
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: in the season ending press conference and he was asked

876
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: point blank, is your starting quarter is your quarterback on

877
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: your roster right now?

878
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

879
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: And he said yes, and there's only one. Well there

880
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: were two at that point. Actually there were three at

881
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: that point, but now there's two. So yeah, they feel

882
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: like Mason Rudolph or Kenny Pickett are going to be

883
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback and we don't know. Again, you'd like

884
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: to see what this looks like with Arthur Smith running

885
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: the show.

886
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: Yes, you know you have a lot invested in Pickett.

887
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: There's certainly traits and things that he does on and

888
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: off the field that you like, the production needs to

889
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: be better, the numbers need to be better. But how

890
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: much was that governed by don't turn it over or

891
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: the system he was in and things like that.

892
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: What we don't know, I mean.

893
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: And yet I can assure people though, is they look

894
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: at him like he's an asset, not like he's an anchor,

895
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: you know, Like, no, he's an asset to the team.

896
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: He's fourteen to ten as a starter.

897
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: There's a lot more to be written.

898
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like again people are talking about like

899
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: talking about it like it's just all hit, this foregone

900
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: conclusion that he's not going to be you know, I

901
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: forget about him. Yeah, right, Like you've seen twenty four starts.

902
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: You seen twenty four starts and it wasn't all bad.

903
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 3: I mean, that's for sure. And I expected a bigger

904
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: step forward this year, especially after the preseason. Yeah, but

905
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: I still think it could be in him. I mean,

906
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm not just saying that because we're on this you

907
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: know airwaves, either, Like, I see a lot there to

908
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: build off of.

909
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: And the preseason did happen last year?

910
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he was really sharp and really.

911
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: So you know again that that is there. It's the

912
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: capabilities there.

913
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: We seen it late in games. The capability is there.

914
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

915
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: Now it just has to become more consistent. And I

916
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: don't care about the touchdown numbers.

917
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

918
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: If they if they go out to rush for thirty

919
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: six touchdowns this year and Kenny Picktt throws fifteen touchdowns

920
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, I don't care.

921
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: That's still a bunch touchdown.

922
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: That's still a bunch. That's fifty one touchdowns. You'll be fine, You'll.

923
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: Be just fine. Yeah, and that could be the cards,

924
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: who knows. I do think it'll be really interesting. We've

925
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: talked fields to death. I mean I would be interested

926
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: in that move. But there's negatives to that too. I

927
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: mean there's not an easy path here of just oh

928
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: there's a quarterback, go get them. It's not a great year.

929
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: For that to me. The two most likely scenarios the

930
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: Steelers resigned Mason Rudolph, Yeah, yeah, and then you draft one, okay.

931
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: Or the Steelers sign Ryan Tannehill and then you draft one.

932
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the scenarios.

933
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: Yes, if I'm betting in Vegas, that's would be my bets. Yeah,

934
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 3: and they might not even draft one.

935
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: They might.

936
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they make it the least likely thing of the

937
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: whole scenario to me. I mean, you have to be

938
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: the right guy at the right time, as with all

939
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: draft picks, but it would be nice to use a

940
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: third round or one of those fourth on a guy

941
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: that has some upside, that can take some reps here

942
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: and there, you know. But yeah, I think that's probably

943
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: what will happen. And the safe bet is Kenny's probably

944
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 3: going to be the Week one starter.

945
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably. And you know, oh, by the way, your

946
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: team went five and one, Like this whole idea, The

947
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: Steelers can't compete in the AFC North if.

948
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: They don't have this at quarterback.

949
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: They don't have four thousand yards and twenty five touchdown

950
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: passes at the quarterback position.

951
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: You haven't had that.

952
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: The last two seasons.

953
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: And your record within the division is eight and four.

954
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: They have the best record within the division of any

955
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: team that's with Joe. They beat Joe Burrow, They've consistently

956
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: beaten Lamar Jackson, they've beaten the Browns.

957
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: No, and that's step number one, obviously, you know, is

958
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: to keep you in the mix. They've had great success

959
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: in the division. I don't know. I mean, there's a

960
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: quarterback situation ideal, of course not, but I don't think

961
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 3: it's dire or desperate either.

962
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and their idea some have to get a quarterback,

963
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: have to go get somebody like well, yeah, they do

964
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: have to sign Somebody'll have four when they go to camp.

965
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: They have one right now. Exactly as when when March

966
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: thirteenth hits, it's going to be under contract. There will

967
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: be somebody else in that room.

968
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: Yes, and there'll be a name. It's not going to

969
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: be you know, a whole bunch of undrafted free agents.

970
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: But they ain't going to be Kirk Cousins. It's not

971
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: going to be Baker.

972
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: Mayfield Mayfield, right, I mean, and then you run on

973
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: names pretty quick. Russell Wilson doesn't do much for me,

974
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: that's for sure. Do you want Jimmy I mean kind

975
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: of interest to me? I mean maybe, you know, I

976
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 3: kick the tires on those type of guys. But there's

977
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: a couple of those options. But Fields is really the

978
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: only swing for the fence scenario to me, and it's

979
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: you could swing a.

980
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Miss absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I mean again, we went over

981
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: it last week. There's there's a lot. I love love Fields.

982
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's interesting.

983
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: There's there's some things there that you really like. There's

984
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: some things that I really don't like.

985
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just don't know if they'll ever get cleaned.

986
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: Up, right. And that's just the reality though it is.

987
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: And you're rolling the dice and you're trading picks.

988
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: And trading picks. That's the thing I hate. It's just

989
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 3: I want that second round pick. I mean, we've we've

990
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 3: done done walk after my walk after Mack.

991
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: Are you willing to trade that second round pick and

992
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: maybe more to get that guy?

993
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: Right? I mean, that's a good corner or safety as

994
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: you can start, right.

995
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: Would you would you give up ke Benton or Joey

996
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: Porter Jr. For maybe Justin Field's figuring things up?

997
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

998
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would.

999
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if I would. I mean, it's that's

1000
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 3: a tough call because then then you gotta pay him

1001
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: to right, all right? And I'm intrigued, But it's not

1002
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: a slam dunk decision for me.

1003
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: No. Again, you know, if there's there's multiple teams bidding

1004
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: for for Justin Fields, I'm probably not in it.

1005
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 3: Right. If it's well, the second and fifth not enough.

1006
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: We need to bump it up to some second next

1007
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: year's third, Like.

1008
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: I don't know about that.

1009
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: Hang ty on that, Yeah, because I wonder if that

1010
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: gets happening. I wonder if he gets traded soon.

1011
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: They don't have to, Yeah, they've got plenty of cap space.

1012
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: They can take it right up to the draft and

1013
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: wait for the highest bidder. They could wait and see

1014
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: what happens with the quarterback. Maybe the Steelers get shut

1015
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: out in the quarterback market. Oh they could, and then

1016
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: they say, Okay, now we got to go do something

1017
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: like this.

1018
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 3: I just would think if I'm the team trading for fields,

1019
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: I want to do it as soon as possible to

1020
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: get them acclimated, right, I mean as the new team. Yeah, yeah,

1021
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: we'll see. That's what we should be really interesting.

1022
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Then a lot of that stuff starts to happen

1023
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: at the combine because everybody's there.

1024
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: Everybody's there right now, everyone's in their bunker. Yeah, Like

1025
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: it's a bad time for scuttle Button. You know, it's

1026
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 3: lying season. Yeah.

1027
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Uh, that's going to do it for our show today.

1028
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: So we'll be back on Wednesday again. We'll do our

1029
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: mock draft, we get one trade. Yeah, it's very judicious

1030
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: with what we what we accept and what we don't.

1031
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: We might we might make one in the first round.

1032
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll make one of the second round, the second

1033
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: round pick me. So it can be fun. But yeah,

1034
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: we'll be back to do that, and then of course

1035
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: we'll have a show Friday next week. Well, I got

1036
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: the schedule here for the Combine stuff, and we are

1037
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: on the air nine four every day, well, nine to

1038
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: four Monday or Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, and then nine

1039
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: to two on Friday. You'll hear myself and Matt, you'll

1040
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: hear Wes Mueller and Arthur Motes, and we'll also be

1041
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: joined by Jerry Dulac and Max Starks as well. So

1042
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: we've got a full cast of characters out in Indianapolis.

1043
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that absolutely. But for our show today,

1044
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on SAITE,

1045
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lollie. We thank

1046
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

1047
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio.