WEBVTT - Manifesting Through the Lion’s Portal

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, ladies, are you ready to just gab gab because

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<v Speaker 2>apparently well listen. I love any criticism, whether good, bad,

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<v Speaker 2>in between, positive, like all of it. Okay, right, no, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it. Won't tease up that way?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened?

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<v Speaker 2>People want us to talk more. They're the shorter episodes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so they missed like the long format. I've gotten so many,

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<v Speaker 2>so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what, I might actually be the girl for this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of criticism, but once in my.

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<v Speaker 2>Life it's like, all right, friend, I hear you, totally agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's gab longer on the wind Down ones. Oh yeahn

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<v Speaker 2>so we can go all day long.

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<v Speaker 3>We pers like, oh shit, we always when it pops

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<v Speaker 3>up in the chat on our screen, we know we've

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<v Speaker 3>gone too long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. But you know what we're gonna we we hear

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<v Speaker 2>you and we're gonna extend a bit. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to start with a long winded story. I am yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love these Are you guys ready to hear some

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<v Speaker 2>news like breaking?

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<v Speaker 1>Dun? Dun? Do either of us already know?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Catherine and I the way we look at each

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<v Speaker 2>other when you say saying like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of love that we both don't know though.

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<v Speaker 3>No, don't know at all. Be sure positive, k already,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't Okay, I am go. Okay, stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>What here we go? Oh and this leads into like

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger conversation. Okay, I'm just ready to share this news.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm sure, I'm racking my brain trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>where we're going.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's take some guesses to extend this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, versation longer.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're not having a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, No, you're saying it like you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to baby, not like we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not We're not having a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that we get so many requests for this

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<v Speaker 3>to be the whole video to be live somewhere because.

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<v Speaker 1>Our freak out face. It's not that there's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>that can't happen. It's not that what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it is?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm afraid to say. You're afraid to say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid you moving. I'm not going to say what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm say it. No, I'm not going to say it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>say I'm not saying it. Go are you getting a

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<v Speaker 2>new manager? Because we definitely need a cut tape for

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<v Speaker 2>a second. Well, what do you think area around it?

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<v Speaker 2>It is work? Okay, what do you think it is?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say it. You can say it. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>say it because we can edi.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I can't say it because Catherine.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have to because that's the rule of how

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<v Speaker 2>we work like this. Go ahead, you got a show. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so but just because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>If she didn't, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if she didn't have a whole baby, that would

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<v Speaker 2>also be sad. Oh yeah, that would be said too,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe kind of Okay, go ahead. I mean, wow, I

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<v Speaker 2>need my coffee. Okay, Okay, let me set the scene

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm really excited to share this. Probably a TV show,

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<v Speaker 2>I am, because if it was a baby, I'd be crying.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we would just be a little uneasy. I

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<v Speaker 2>am already tearing up. Oh I'm ready to cry to

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<v Speaker 2>Day's this. I'm really I messed. Okay, you guys, this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be the biggest Yeah, I almost.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I wasn't gonna say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So sorry, we really extended. Okay, they're like this,

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<v Speaker 2>there is not the extension. This is not the extension

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<v Speaker 2>in wish we were requesting. Okay, So Tuesday last week

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<v Speaker 2>I get an audition that I'm so excited about because

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<v Speaker 2>it I'm not gonna say which show it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Taylor Sheridan show. Always good. Yeah, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always like and I know the cast in director. He's

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<v Speaker 2>known me since I was nineteen years old, always been

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<v Speaker 2>a fan in the corner, like he's great. Love him.

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<v Speaker 2>So Wednesday, before we leave for the lake, I go

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<v Speaker 2>put it on tape and then I get a text

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<v Speaker 2>from my agent being like this is excellent. And then

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<v Speaker 2>she's like I have a really good feeling about this one,

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<v Speaker 2>and so does she say that often? Not often? No, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple times, and I've gotten really close. I like

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that she says like good feeling. So and

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<v Speaker 2>the next day I get the notification that they've availed

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<v Speaker 2>check to me and that he like thought my tape

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<v Speaker 2>was amazing and like perfect for the role spunky. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a spunky rule? This is yeah, a spunky horse

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<v Speaker 2>trainer who I was like, I'm like, I have like

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<v Speaker 2>less than twenty four hours to like, yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember talking to you you were on your way

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<v Speaker 3>down to it. Yes, okay, was not like the best headspace.

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<v Speaker 3>You were not in a spunky headspace. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to put you on blast, but a little bit of opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>Day rolling into that audition and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where you put your acting skilled into the test.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I like did great and felt good about it. Okay, soever,

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<v Speaker 2>all the producers are watching the tape and I get

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<v Speaker 2>a veiled check again like she's one hundred percent. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I do this whole like everyone talks about in

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<v Speaker 2>which I want to lead into the next conversation of

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<v Speaker 2>like manifestation. Right. So I was like, okay, everyone talks

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<v Speaker 2>about like visual manifestation, right, So I Am not going

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<v Speaker 2>to say what show it is, but like I am

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<v Speaker 2>at this location shooting the show. I am shaking Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Sheridan's hands like I'm visualizing like all of this I'm

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<v Speaker 2>writing out because apparently there's like a Lions portal. I

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<v Speaker 2>am like, I have this role like and I like

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<v Speaker 2>feel it within my bones, like that's how it has

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<v Speaker 2>to be. Yeah, and can you guys believe it? I

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<v Speaker 2>got a call today?

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<v Speaker 1>You actually got it? No you didn't, Okay, I didn't think.

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<v Speaker 2>So, No, manifestation is shaking, like we're going somewhere that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like anyone. I'm saying positive about it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I thought it'd be fun for like the whole

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<v Speaker 2>setup of it. But my I know, but I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>the manifestation of things, I'm like, it's shite, it's shipe,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a shit for Alan's words, because I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>did what they said to do. I was there, I

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<v Speaker 2>was shaking Taylor Sheridan's hand, I was on a horse.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in the like being like thanks for hiring me,

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<v Speaker 4>and like getting my makeup done, and like in the

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<v Speaker 4>trailer and like I genuinely believed it, felt it, And

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<v Speaker 4>I said all the affirmations the last week.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, every single one of them. You seem so

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<v Speaker 2>much lighter. I thought, for sure you got it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was playing the part and we were talking

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<v Speaker 3>about leveling the land outside, so I thought, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly we snugged some sort of deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then yeah, so no, but that brings up

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<v Speaker 2>my manifestation thing because I've really looked into it with

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<v Speaker 2>this whole like Lions portal stuff that's like happening. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Leo season eight eight. So the lions Portal is opening,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're supposed to call into the things like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I am this role.

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<v Speaker 1>I am like you were booking this role based on

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<v Speaker 1>this scorpion stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I like, I was manifesting so hard that like

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<v Speaker 2>what they said to do you know that, I was

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<v Speaker 2>like in a piece of me. It was like if

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<v Speaker 2>anybody heard you right now on your walk around the

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<v Speaker 2>neighbor because I was like, I got it, get top

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<v Speaker 2>of your like, hey, Taylor, great hanging with you. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 2>And I like believed it. And then I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a load of shite.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well I couldn't told you. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what lions Portal is.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing though, when I was talking to Alan

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<v Speaker 2>about it, we were taking a little bath together and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I struggle with manifestation because you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be like and I'm still learning so much because

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<v Speaker 2>I've been really like looking at Gabby stuff and then

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<v Speaker 2>looking at this is my channel the things but like

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<v Speaker 2>and the visual manifestation in And this is where Alan

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<v Speaker 2>was like good with it. He's like, it's our kind

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<v Speaker 2>of line of work, whether his goal scorers and his

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<v Speaker 2>soccer players, Like, He's like, I can't tell my players

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<v Speaker 2>to manifest scoring three goals because the reality of you

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<v Speaker 2>scoring three goals, you're just going to be let down. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>So like me manifesting, like, yes, I can manifesting, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess being on us set, which eventually I'll get on

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<v Speaker 2>us set. Yeah, but like that's where I'm just like

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<v Speaker 2>a manifestation. It's like it's just I feel like to

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<v Speaker 2>keep people to have hope. I do believe so, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I get now this whole visual

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, if it worked, then I'm fucking visually

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<v Speaker 2>manifesting everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think it doesn't not help. So I

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<v Speaker 3>read The Secret when I was twenty. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 3>read The Secret?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Like okay back then, yes, yeah, So I re listened

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<v Speaker 3>to it on audio kind of often just jump in

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<v Speaker 3>little pieces of it because I think it helps.

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<v Speaker 2>My default is kind of bracing for impact, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're bottomed to fall out. Yeah, kind of like I was. Usually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I'm waiting on the email to say they

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<v Speaker 2>you were one of three, and they, you know, went

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite direction. That's how I usually live, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>this time I chose myself like, no, I got it

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm ann the life, So I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't go nowhere. That's my theory.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that energy and that vibration is really good

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<v Speaker 3>for you no matter what, and it could just not

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<v Speaker 3>be this one, but you changing the way your energy

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<v Speaker 3>is working is going to help for the next one

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<v Speaker 3>because you visualized something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's where I think manifestation and all of

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<v Speaker 2>that is just of course something's gonna happen if you

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<v Speaker 2>keep going for it. And that's the thing I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to my girlfriend Taman about this or we podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, eventually you will get something because it's what

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<v Speaker 2>you do and what's what you're striving for. And the

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<v Speaker 2>people that don't are the ones that quit or that

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<v Speaker 2>give up on that dream.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, I still think you're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>a call. She's a different character for this, and I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of want to be right about that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I will eventually be. There's You're very Taylor Sheraton, like

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<v Speaker 3>there's something about it because it keeps coming up personally.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I just mean like he was from

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<v Speaker 2>Sons of Anarchy, and I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually nobody looks like, but I feel like you're

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<v Speaker 3>within a degree of separation of him kind of often.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's something to it, well, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>will help. I think it obviously helped your positivity around this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even talking to you the other day, you

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<v Speaker 1>were way more upbeat about the fact that if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get it, you were going to be okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's something to that that helped. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>big manifestation person. I don't I kind of agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a things happen the way they're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to happen kind of person, right, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>do think there's something to it, because you want to

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<v Speaker 1>stay positive. You want to, you know, if you're always negative,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know that that exudes when you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think you're going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of opportunities if you're always negative, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to have positivity.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not picturing yourself there that's going to make

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<v Speaker 1>it happen kind of person, because there's just life and

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<v Speaker 1>that might just not be where God wants you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so just to like visualize it doesn't mean God

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<v Speaker 1>wants you there.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes what's planted in your heart is because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a desire of your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe and he'll put you And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he'll put you there if that's where you're supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think not that it goes against what

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. I'm not necessarily saying that, but there is

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<v Speaker 1>part of me that's just like, again, if God's if

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<v Speaker 1>it's God's going to put you there, if that's where

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be. So I guess I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>fully understand why we're just visualizing us in these places

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<v Speaker 1>where we want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's my whole thing, and then I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it sets up for more letdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's why I was kind of surprised where we're at,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like that would That's why I was

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to say it, because I'm like, sounds like it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a lot more letdown. You're picturing yourself there, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and shaking his hand and doing all those things,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden you're not there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like that would be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more letdown. You've been very positive around this though.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is the closest you've been to him, to

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<v Speaker 3>his show, to a show with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, I've gotten to I keep getting to producers shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Which will be a good thing. And she even said

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<v Speaker 1>that the other day. She was like, at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, a stale was in front of him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and all of a sudden, then it'll all

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<v Speaker 1>be a positive in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the day that they don't see me in the tapes,

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<v Speaker 2>the day that I don't get the opportunity right, because

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe again, yes, you can't just sit in

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<v Speaker 2>a well. Alan was saying this, like he's like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything you can do. It's not like you're just

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in your house, not auditioning, not trying, not putting

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<v Speaker 2>forth the effort. But when it just comes to that

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<v Speaker 2>visual aspect of things, that's where I'm like, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that is just a load of shite. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can visualize being in something one day. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, one day, if I keep going, it'll happen,

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<v Speaker 2>which I truly believe. Yeah, Like at some point, if

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<v Speaker 2>I don't give up, I will be back on a show.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you have to believe that, what's the point

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<v Speaker 1>and keep what's the point in keeping going.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't believe that, right, well, because it's what

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<v Speaker 2>you want. Yeah, so do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So this is where I get in my own way,

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<v Speaker 3>which is it's actually really interesting to me and in

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<v Speaker 3>alignment to me that we're having this conversation because I

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of days have been pretty low, a

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<v Speaker 3>little spirally, mostly just around money, like the world's expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, listen, hashtag blest. Everyone's working, but it's just expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>As we know, horses are fifty k we've been in it.

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<v Speaker 3>So but like the last the last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going Kristin, like you've just got to get yourself

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<v Speaker 3>in a better like what do you need to do?

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a vision board, so I just like

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<v Speaker 3>sat in front of it because I thought I just

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<v Speaker 3>need to like change.

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<v Speaker 2>I think probably like.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, of course, the way we're raised all of that,

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<v Speaker 3>the default is to is for the bottom to fall out.

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<v Speaker 3>So my question is, and maybe we don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>answer to this as a group, but I can see

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<v Speaker 3>things for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>They just feel far away.

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<v Speaker 3>So that feels kind of like what you're saying, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I can envision myself being like Oprah. But it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like it's at least five or ten years away, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's felt five or ten years away for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I keep trying to be hopeful.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, how do I bring the goal line

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<v Speaker 3>to me instead of me keep going to the goal

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<v Speaker 3>that keeps starting to change? Does that make sense? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, if you're envisioning yourself being Oprah, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the likelihood of you being Oprah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, just something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, but I think that, yeah, totally. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>but then the.

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<v Speaker 3>Jama's point, I'm like, well, okay, so I do this,

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<v Speaker 3>which is great, right, great, and it fuels me, which

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<v Speaker 3>I need. But then I'm like, are there people this

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<v Speaker 3>is to her point, are there people that even know

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<v Speaker 3>that I'd want to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I don't really talk about myself like that and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't put myself out there like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And see that's where I think the whole manifestation actually

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<v Speaker 2>is positive and does work. You have to put forth right,

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<v Speaker 2>putting it out there, yeah, because if not, then you're

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<v Speaker 2>never going to do it. And that's with people, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you want it to happen, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>put it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to try right well, and then there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of obviously work that goes into that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know the whole manifestation thing. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's not saying just picture yourself there and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you're there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it crosses because I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>Amy about this in our session the other day yesterday actually,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was she'sun sabbatical, how'd you get a session?

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>No, she's done, she's back. She's back. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a month, but she was basically when I brought up

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<v Speaker 2>the Lions portal thing, She's like faith and I think

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<v Speaker 2>manifestation there could be elements in it, yeah, but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times it's they don't. They're just like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's God's plain and timing and ask for ask him.

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<v Speaker 2>Not absolutely as stars or the I've I very much

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way. I try to kind of like keep

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<v Speaker 2>that to myself a little bit, but I very much

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<v Speaker 2>do feel that way. But also in the sense that

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<v Speaker 2>like you, to me, that's such a positive thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know it can feel like but it's like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna end up on that show where God wants you,

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<v Speaker 2>and the timing that God wants you and the you

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<v Speaker 2>know so.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, for whatever reason, that just feels so much

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<v Speaker 1>more like, Oh, that just makes me so happy thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It may not feel good in the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I've just never been one that. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>they've always counteracted each other a little bit. However I've

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<v Speaker 1>tried to do it or handled it or whatever. They

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<v Speaker 1>just feel counterintuitive a little bit to me. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not knocking anyone that does feel that way. I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of very strong people of faith who also

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<v Speaker 1>follow the stars or you know or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there's something to it. Sure, like the

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<v Speaker 2>energy of things.

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<v Speaker 3>I do too, I just also do think like this

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<v Speaker 3>is what I have to remember. So I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to be Oprah. What's my capacity for being Oprah?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now? Right? I have a three year old I'm homeschooling.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of what I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the likelihood of you really working so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get to a point right your Oprah?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I have also yeah, Oprah, I mean like

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<v Speaker 1>that's like major, It's what I've always wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 3>My like.

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<v Speaker 1>Regious but I believe that my dream died with Regis.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that you can do it. I just also

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<v Speaker 1>know that you have other dreams that would make that

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<v Speaker 1>impossible hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, well, and listen, I'm using Oprah like loosely,

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<v Speaker 3>like a funny, right, it's just funny to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like a you know whatever, whatever that idea of that is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also just know capacity like I I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>There's Preston's traveling. So for the things that really are

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<v Speaker 3>important to me, like me being with my kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to trade a career and God knows

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<v Speaker 3>that too, you know, Like I'm I. We don't have

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<v Speaker 3>much teamwork with the way our industry is set up

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<v Speaker 3>right now, so I couldn't do that so well and

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<v Speaker 3>be with my kids. So I'm like, maybe that's why

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<v Speaker 3>it's delayed and I'm in a refinement season and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just not waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, that's why it hasn't because you can't can't

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<v Speaker 2>You're no room for it? Yeah, right, no room. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the piece of manifestation that you have

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<v Speaker 2>to have room for it to grow. Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And they say that like clear half of your closet

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<v Speaker 3>if you're wanting to have a husband and park on

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<v Speaker 3>the side of the driveway so that there could be

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<v Speaker 3>like visualize someone taking up space, and I know you

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<v Speaker 3>lost that, but part of the visualization, they say. But

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<v Speaker 3>also like I found a husband in my closet was

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<v Speaker 3>very full, so I don't you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I think there is something too, just the

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<v Speaker 3>divine timing of it. But I also think it keeps

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<v Speaker 3>us hopeful enough, and that's why I like to listen

0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.560
<v Speaker 3>to it because it makes well in full transparency. It

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<v Speaker 3>also makes me feel little more in control of things,

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<v Speaker 3>and that feels calmer to me. So probably going dreaming

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<v Speaker 3>and going like what i'd want it to look like this,

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<v Speaker 3>and like it just feels like, I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 3>feels positive and I just need more of that.

0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think it makes more sense for things

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<v Speaker 2>to come when the action is there, So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to think that it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be there. Oh I don't need it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And I also like, you know, I'm starting

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<v Speaker 3>my podcast back up, which I think is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be great, but I was on this mission to get

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<v Speaker 3>it out in September and yesterday my throat was closing

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<v Speaker 3>and the school's starting and our house is a debacle,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, okay, but what was I I'm

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<v Speaker 3>my own boss, and I can do it in such

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<v Speaker 3>a way. I don't have to do it in September.

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<v Speaker 3>I could do it in January. And I have a

0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.080
<v Speaker 3>little goal out there, but the goal for me would

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<v Speaker 3>have to it goes calendar year. So there's an award

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.119
<v Speaker 3>that I would like to submit for, but it's in

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<v Speaker 3>January to December, so doesn't mean no good to put

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<v Speaker 3>things out in September.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so I thought, well, Kristin, why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>just give yourself room to breathe and go slow?

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<v Speaker 2>And so here we are, are you well? Speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>the Lions portal though, oh gosh, we're gonna let Catherine

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<v Speaker 2>come in on this little game of ours that she hurts. Yay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about letting go of something and bringing something in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh okay, she hates me with that one. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's true though, I think, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>where I've been able to stay positive in this You're

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<v Speaker 2>so positive.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to really say that, like it is

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<v Speaker 3>wild I would have never guessed we didn't get a show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the funniest thing was is yesterday? What was yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday was the twenty ninth. Apparently it was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be the luckiest day of the year. So in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is the day I'm getting the call.

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<v Speaker 2>I like when you go to dude voice, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was the day I got the call.

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<v Speaker 1>You got that call, girl, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, damn it, like but it was like it

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<v Speaker 2>almost made me laugh because I was like, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've been waiting for four or five days for

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<v Speaker 2>an answer and you put it on the day day,

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.399
<v Speaker 2>like rude. But also, Okay, if the whole thing is

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 2>then there's something else that's meant for me and I

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 2>don't have to hang on to that. Yes, And I

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.719
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's it for everybody agreed, because it's like

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.439
<v Speaker 2>if not, what am I going to do sit in

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<v Speaker 2>my room and cry or like be depressed. Okay, I

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 2>have to like actually feel that this just wasn't meant

0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 2>for me and something will eventually come. In my timing,

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.760
<v Speaker 2>fuck no, but in his timing. Absolutely the timing, Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're just being seen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's what I was trying to say, you you've

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:05.439
<v Speaker 3>been seen so many times by these people, they aren't

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:07.800
<v Speaker 3>knowing You're a hard worker. Like all of those things,

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 3>all of this does go into the recipe you know

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 3>at some point, and that you want it.

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that you just keep on showing up. But

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 2>that's something came up in therapy yesterday too, which guys,

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I was a little annoyed our favorite because there was

0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 2>something that was said that I was like, no, can

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:37.560
<v Speaker 2>we know it? Oh? I wish I could know. We're

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna know. I feel like she could say it don't

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.200
<v Speaker 2>And I understand it was said out of like love

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and care, of course, but yeah, I was expressing something

0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:54.800
<v Speaker 2>that has been like ruminating in my brain and I'm

0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 2>having a hard time with and she mentioned She's like,

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 2>that's generalized anxiety disorder and I'm like, nah, Like I

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 2>don't have anxiety attacks. She goes, right, that's there's panic disorder.

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 2>There's this, And I actually didn't know that there was

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 2>actually from all the years that I've had therapy, I

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 2>mean all the years I've had anxiety in the past,

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that there was such a thing as

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 2>like generalized anxiety disorder. So if you're thinking of this

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 2>one thing over and over and over and over and

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 2>over again, it's called generalized anxiety disorder. And she's like,

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe you should get on something to like ease that,

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, no, I don't want to get back

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 2>on medicine. I worked so hard to get off of medicine.

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 2>But I was like, I'm here to talk it out

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, I'm just having a bad day. Well, also,

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 2>we live in a very there's a we live in that.

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 1>She said, that's a fair that's a fair response in

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>which one to say no, I don't want to get

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 1>on something. Yeah, I mean that might be true. I

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.919
<v Speaker 1>mean that's obviously probably true. She's a therapist, but I

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>think it's a very fair response to just say no,

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get back on medicine.

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 3>So I have a question for us too inside of this,

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:58.360
<v Speaker 3>are we over diagnosing as a as a society, Because

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm starting to feel like, okay, eggs are eleven dollars.

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Things aren't always looking up economy wise, right, Like work

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 3>is hard, things cost money. To me, what you're describing

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 3>is just a normal day in the life of any

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.879
<v Speaker 3>mom or person like worrying about something doesn't give you

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 3>a general anxiety disorder.

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, but here's a thing too, And what I

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>told her I was like, am I excessively worrying about

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 2>this thing? Yes? And like sometimes it does affect my

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 2>daily life, which is why people would. But at the

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 2>same time, I'm like, I know, or I feel at

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.120
<v Speaker 2>least that I'm strong enough to say I can combat

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.439
<v Speaker 2>that thought with a positive thought if I do it

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 2>consistently for an extending amount of time. That's where I

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 2>believe that positive affirmations, I agree can work. Now. It's

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 2>not knocking anybody that has to because listen, I was

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 2>on medication for what eighteen something years? Yeah, like yeah, forever,

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, and I've worked hard to

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 2>not but I think there's also like periods of times

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:00.919
<v Speaker 2>when you can be low and then also like I

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 2>do believe in like affirming out of that and just

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>being like, no, I'm choosing to be positive and I'm

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.199
<v Speaker 2>okay and I'm safe, and like having those affirmations to

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.199
<v Speaker 2>not let me feel what I was feeling or like

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 2>ruminating on Well.

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting coming from a person who I guess technically

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>does not have anxiety. Do I feel anxious about certain

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>things at times?

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I don't really know. But it's

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>so interesting you say that, because coming from someone who

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have anxiety, I hate to admit this because this

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>sounds bad, but that's how we can feel when people

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>are anxious about things, like, hey, can you not just

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 1>like have a positive thought and like pop out whatever?

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>So where I'm going with that is is I think

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you can learn those coping mechanisms and be able

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:50.639
<v Speaker 1>to get out of that. But if you're prone to

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>overthinking and having anxious thoughts or whatever, you have to

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>learn those, right, I mean, you have to learn how

0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to get out of that, right. But Dad, don't think

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>that that means you necessarily always need medicine. If you've

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>learned the tools to work with that, I would think, Again,

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't have anxiety, but and if that works for you,

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and if you're able to go positive and get yourself

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 1>out of that, then I don't see why there.

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Would be a need for me, do you okay?

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 3>Is that is there a way to know kind of

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 3>the general of what you're worrying about. Well, so the

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 3>whole thing is, like I don't want waiting to find therapy,

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 3>but you're inn thirty thousand feet up right.

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:34.199
<v Speaker 2>It's like the like I think the whole thing is

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 2>like feeling unsafe and like the bottom falling out right,

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 2>So it's like kind of living in that. So then

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 2>it go to like a a health anxiety or so

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I like ruminate on like things and I can't. I

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 2>have a hard time sometimes getting out of it, you know,

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 2>And I just keep thinking that thought over and over

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 2>and over again. I don't have anxiety, like I'm not

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>having a panic attack over it, right, but like I

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 2>get anxiety or anxious thoughts around like a specific thing

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 2>that can like coming up.

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like everyone does great. And again I

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>would still classify myself as not getting anxiety, and I

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>will find or not being anxious necessarily, but I will

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 1>find myself at least i'd say every couple of weeks

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>asking myself, I'll go, what am I anxious about? Yeah,

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>because I'll feel that anxious feeling like I do get that.

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.919
<v Speaker 1>I understand that feeling now I didn't used to. And

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, what am I anxious about? And I'll

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 1>like if I can pinpoint it, I'm like, Okay, and

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>then I'll address it and then I'll be like okay,

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>and I'll move on, or I don't know what it is,

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>and I just have to say I don't know what

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm anxious about and move on. So I again, I think,

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think we all have an element of that, right,

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't everyone have a little bit of anxiety?

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like, I think that is what I'm trying to

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 3>say too, Like I do have a fear. I'm on

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 3>the highway a ton, right, And if you know my

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 3>grief past, then of course death is kind of like

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 3>always in my brain, kind of probably more than like

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 3>a normal healthy person should be. So Amy and I

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 3>have talked through that, like I don't want to manifest

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 3>it to your point, like I don't want to think

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 3>about it so much that I attract it to myself,

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 3>not saying that that would happen, but.

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Which, by the way, interesting. Yeah, I just want to

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 2>say that piece too, because I asked her a question.

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I said, Okay, she's like one of the things I said,

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I think because everything is good right now, like me

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.719
<v Speaker 2>and my husband are happy and we are good, Like

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>everything's good, My kids are healthy and happy. So I

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>start to figure like I'm going to die, I'm going

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 2>to get cancer or whatever. And so then I said, also,

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 2>people always say what you think becomes so I've been

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 2>fearing myself like, oh, I've been giving it so much

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 2>power that I'm like, oh my god, I'm going to

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>give myself cancer. But but yes, I think that you

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>can your body like when you stress. Yes, I do

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 2>think your body can create aches or pains or got

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I do believe in that when you stress so much.

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 2>But is it going to give me cancer because I'm

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 2>having these thoughts?

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>No, No, Yeah, that's the other part of the manifestation

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that I'm.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Like, that's That's also the piece I was like, once

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I heard that, I was.

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Like, Okay, you know what I mean, Like, I mean, yes, stress,

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>you can stress here out. So you mean stress is

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>a big, you know, cause of ailments. But just seeing

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.959
<v Speaker 1>it again, I just can't believe that.

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 3>But also I think when you're on the roads that

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 3>we're on and it's so trafficky all the time, Like,

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 3>for sure, that's in my brain because I'm looking at

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm just tending to trying to get us where we're going.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 3>And I've seen a lot on those highways with my travels.

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean I'm anxious about I default anxious.

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 3>I default to the bottom, falling out when things do

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 3>feel good. I'm extra anxious because I am preparing for

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 3>whatever it.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Is well and so and if that was stopping you

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>from living and taking up most of your day, that

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 2>would be generalized anxiety disorder because you're thinking about it

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>all the time. So I don't think you think about

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 2>things that much? Do you? Like, are you it comes

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 2>in like it comes? Does it come in cycles? Maybe

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>because you know what I mean, and my anxiety is

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>definitely worse.

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>And are you not able to to really function that?

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Ida am? I just have to shut it up. But

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the thing that has helped so much, And I wish

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I had my phone because I wrote it in the

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>notes and it was so good. But it was like

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>when you shut up the voice in your head, it

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 2>actually makes it worse, it makes it louder. So instead

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>you say, like I feel like I'm gonna die, be

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.959
<v Speaker 2>like what is the reality to that? I'm eating healthy,

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I take care of myself. Like, thank you anxiety for

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>trying to protect me right now, but like I'm good,

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm safe. I don't need you I don't need you, like,

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and I think, like that's where even just like what

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, like losing jobs and it's like, Okay,

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel disappointment, but like I know that one day

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I will get something, Like I can believe that and

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>know that. And it's like and when it comes into

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 2>like the anxiety of things, it's like, right now, I

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about discovering something or finding something,

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I have a man that is showing up and

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 2>he's doing his work and I'm doing my work, and

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 2>we are you are happy and like and like to

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 2>feel that, you know, because like we can't predict and

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 2>that's all about the future. That's what the fears of

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 2>anxiety what it is. But like if you tell yourself that,

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>then you just keep quieting that. I'm like, can we

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 2>just try that for a minute before trying to get

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 2>a pill? Right?

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do.

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>And again I don't want to sound insensitive to now,

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>so I'm trying to be very careful. I just I

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>also have to believe to an extent, we have to

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>be able to learn how to cope with these things, Sam,

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and we have to have faith out of them, and

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>we have to be able to get ourselves out of them.

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to believe. And I know there's a

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of things that go wrong in brains, and there's

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of medicine that has to be had in

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>all of those things. But I do think that when.

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>My serotonin needed the lexapro right for me to function

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and live a normal life, I could not leave my

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 2>house without having a panic attack, right, like right, absolute medicine. Absolutely, Yeah, I.

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Just think we've gotten to a point where maybe we

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>are over prescribing. For sure, I have no doubt it's

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>about overprescribing. But also, you know, maybe let's let's go

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>first to how do we how do we help cope

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>with this, and then if we can't, if we get

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>to a point where we just can't and we're not functioning,

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>then maybe we need to to do something about it.

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like and to her point, like she was

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 2>just like, it can just be until you start to

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>settle out and really feel you're safe and all those things.

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, but I think that's a practice within

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 2>me that I have to like do, that's my work

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>to go I am safe. I'm just like trying to

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>pull up stuff because I that's what I know, right, right.

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Right, right, So things are good. You're pulling out that. Yeah,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like that's also yeah, a.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Little yeah, but like knowing where you are at a

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 3>personal level with I think you're doing great. I just

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not blaming on hormones. I'm really not, but

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 3>there is, like there is scientific proof our levels change

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 3>and those certain levels, certain hormones help us stay safe, right,

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Like it's animalistic, it's like a real biological thing. Certain

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 3>hormones heighten our awareness and our hypervigilance. But that was

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 3>to keep us safe when we needed to, you know.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 3>So it does go in a cycle a bit too.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 3>So those times like I already know the next couple

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 3>of days. I I'm not projecting it on myself, but

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I am a little more anxious. But I also know

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 3>a level back out in about five days, you know,

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 3>I just don't. I just don't think you're in a

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 3>medicine place. That's just my two cents, my non degree

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 3>toting two.

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>So you see very confident that you were able to

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>talk yourself out of that, like to try it. Yeah,

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>So I think that, yeah, I think that. Yeah, it

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>feels like a healthy practice let's try.

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I took both of those post chats went very

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 2>long in that does anybody have a whine about it?

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh my, oh my update?

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 2>But well it's not really a whine about it. I mean,

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>we can certainly turn it into one cat.

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I am, well, I am just dead, and like senior year,

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>like the to do list for senior year is just wild,

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and then new high school and then I know this

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>is not a whine about it. But I know we've

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>talked about this before, but like, at what age do

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you let like your girls shave?

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, like that, oh we've had that, you've shaved. Okay, Well,

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 2>so what happened was we were talking about Ramsey. Huh Okay, yeah,

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I love is also asking. Okay, so fourth grade, she

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 2>came to me and said we were in the shower.

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 2>We took a shower together, and she's just like, Mommy, like,

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>can I shave my legs? Not to like cut you off,

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>by the way, but just like yeah. And I called

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Mike and was like this is what she said, and

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>he goes, I feel like it's too young, and I

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, I agree with you. He's like, let's revisit

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>in fifth grade. Okay, so I think we talked about it.

0:34:58.120 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>That's what we did. I think we talked.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>We talked a little bit.

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>So then at the lake this summer, you know, we

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>were in the shower and she's like, Mommy, look how

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 2>dark my hair is? She has dark hair. She's like,

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>can I please shave? And I said in that moment

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 2>and I ended up, I'll say so in that moment,

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, make does it make you feel a

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 2>certain way? She's like yeah, she's like. I was like,

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 2>she's like on the dock. She I was like trying

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 2>to like hide it, and I'm like, okay, so it's

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 2>not just now it's starting to make her feel uncomfortable.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 2>So I said, sure, I can show you how to

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 2>do it. So, you know, I showed her, you know,

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>just like how my mom showed me how to do

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>it when I was in sixth grade, and you know,

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 2>she she loved it, right, And then I was like,

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 2>I gotta call your daddy, you know what I mean.

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>But it was just that moment where I was like

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't want it to get out of the shower call.

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is this is a mom moment

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>where I was like I want I'm going to make

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.359
<v Speaker 2>the call. Yeah, So I called them after. I was like, hey,

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 2>please just hear me out on this one. And he's like,

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not mad at all. He's like, you did what

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 2>you thought you got to do in that moment. And

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 2>he's like totally fine. And I said, and listen, at

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, she's not gonna want to

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>do this every couple of days because she's going to

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 2>see that it's work to keep your life shaved, right. Yeah,

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>And she's only done it once since then. You know,

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 2>she asked for a razor in her shower. I haven't

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 2>gotten her one yet, but because it's gotten like long again,

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, and she's like, mom, you know, school's coming

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 2>up or whatever, she's going to have it in my shower.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 2>But I am going to let her do it, like

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>it's something that like, if it's making her feel uncomfortable,

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 2>I think she'll realize it's a chore and it's not fun.

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 2>But if she wants to do it, I'm now. I'm like,

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>she's in fifth grade and you know I did it

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.720
<v Speaker 2>in six and it's something that has made her feel

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>self conscious, and so I've said, okay, yeah, oh we

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 2>shaved Jamesey's like yesterday. Okay, well that's where I was going.

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>But my whole point is is why does it matter

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>how old they are? I'll turn that into a little bit.

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Of a whine.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I will say this. I feel like.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not hurting anyone else. It actually affects no one.

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>No. When that Ax and I were talking about it,

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>it just feels so old and like.

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>It it's like a oh, I don't think it's a

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.839
<v Speaker 1>sexualized thing at all. But having said that, Ramsey's hair

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>was awful. Yeah, I mean she has my dark long

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, God bless her. Like it's bad.

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what's time because it's blonde.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>But it does well, that's where I was also kind

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>of going with it. It does feel old. My youngest

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>just shaved your legs, so it's like I have a senior,

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I have a girl going into high school and have

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a girl now shaving her legs. But the confidence when

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>she got out of that bath, I don't care. I

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>don't care if everyone in this town has something to

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>say about that girl shaving her legs.

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Does it affect them?

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not if someone's looking at them sexualizing them because

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>their legs are smooth and not hairy, then that's on them.

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>That's not on my kid.

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, I agree with you. I'm just like I

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.839
<v Speaker 2>think that's where, like fourth grade, for some reason, shave

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 2>legs just felt too young.

0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I remember we had talked about it before.

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>So then when you know, I had looked back at

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Ramsey the other day and she was sitting there and

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, literally in my head thinking.

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Her legs are going.

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>You got to be a good friend to know. And

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>then she find she said something about it. She's like, oh,

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>my leg hares have gotten worse, like a lot hairrier.

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.399
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, let's shave them.

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean why not? Yeah, you know, and like it

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>just again, they won't do it that often. Emmy did

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 1>it this same time, just because she wanted to, and

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, if you want to, I don't care.

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I that I don't care when something like that, Like,

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, you're not gonna want to do it.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I still look at her. I mean, she goes to

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 1>cheering shorts every day and I'm like, are we going

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>with hair? Yeah, nobody cares. And she's a flyer and

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>they're all touch and they're like they don't care. She

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care, but hers are like blonde. I can only

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>tell what I'm like. The sun is like on them. Yeah,

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>if they feel uncomfortable, uncomfortable about it, it's not affecting

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>anyone else in my opinion, So I'm like, you know,

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 1>if it makes them feel good. But it was that

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>moment of my youngest just shaved her legs.

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine, like like I am actually really.

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Ready for him to go to college in this sense

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>that I know he's ready for college and like he's

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>mature and stuff like that. Like I again, I don't

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>ruminate on things very long, so I don't think much

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>about like when he's gone. I just try not to

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>think about that. I just think of like the positive

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:22.280
<v Speaker 1>parts of it. Like he's applying on Saturday, like August

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>first applications open up. I know, it's it's looking far away,

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>not anymore really right now, he's looking at two Alabama schools,

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>BAMA and then a smaller one we haven't visited yet,

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>North Alabama, which is a smaller option. He doesn't really

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.439
<v Speaker 1>have a huge preference on where he goes, and it's

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of started to stress him out a little bit.

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Like he's like, I don't have like the school. I'm

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>just like I got to go to or what I

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>got to do. I don't know what I want to do.

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Then I'm like pick a big option and a small

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 1>option and then you know, take the time and pick whenever.

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so my.

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Youngest is shaving her legs. I know it's the first

0:39:57.920 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 1>for you though, So that's like a whole different. It's

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 1>like first and the last are just like a whole.

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't even imagine. I'm saving all my fifth

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 2>grade chat for when school starts, but yeah, it's gonna be.

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I've got a couple of things pinned. So it was

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of a whine, kind of not what's the line?

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>There wasn't really a whine. That's all I had. My

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>son's going to college.

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I can.

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 2>You can whine about the bill of that, and you

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 2>can whine about the subparation. Got uh I do.

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 3>It's actually kind of along these lines, so all unpinned

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 3>because I've had this in my little where are we

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 3>with makeup and these children kind of goes along the

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 3>same lines, like and I know, Kat, you forged the

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 3>territory before us, but I struggle because love is so stunning.

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you are your eyebrowsier lash, Like she're just

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:49.240
<v Speaker 3>a special little human, you know, like you need nothing.

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 3>None of our girls need anything. No ten year old

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 3>needs makeup. But I also know it's like I So

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 3>she went to a performing arts camp last week, and

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 3>she the second to last day, she was like, can

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 3>I wear a masskara? And I said, ah, not today,

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, like I just was okay. But then the

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 3>last day they had their performance, so she's like, can

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 3>I wear a masscarat is? Of course, like you know,

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 3>we do that for cheer, yeap whatever. And then I

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 3>get to the school where they're hosting this little camp

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:22.479
<v Speaker 3>and every little girl is like in semi semi full glam,

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 3>like we are eyeshadow, We've got some and listen, all

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 3>well tastefully done, but like still they're just all such

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 3>little girls and like what are we doing? And then

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 3>I ran into a friend yesterday and they're little girls

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 3>and again, so she has all girls and their youngest

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 3>is but her youngest is with the other two big

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:44.399
<v Speaker 3>girls also wearing makeup, and I'm like, what is am

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 3>I I'm gonna be the.

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Person that's and I'm not against it. I want to

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 2>say that, hey, but I just am strugg young, but

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not. We don't have girls in dance or cheer,

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.439
<v Speaker 2>so like, yeah, I'm not putting. I think the last

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 2>time Jolie had makeup on was when we did a

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 2>fun little mommy day out and we went for nott

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Cracker tea for Christmas and we did like a like

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>we had a I had someone do our makeup for

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>this one thing and it was that was in Christmas.

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 2>But like, I don't ask if she wants it on.

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't ask to put it on, and I'm just like,

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 2>if she did, I'd be like, throw some lip gloss on,

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 2>but that's it, Like I'm not fitting you. Like I

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 2>just think that's way too young personally for me. But

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 2>then I watched Lion already grabbing a blushbrush because she

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 2>the younger sister, So I'm like, is this gonna be

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like are we like? I just I don't know. I

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>just think it's if she If Jolie was gonna do

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 2>like a makeup routine fifth grade, I just think it's

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 2>too young. I really do.

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I do too.

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm struggling because I so reformed again you

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.439
<v Speaker 2>have a get a younger that probably started and again,

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 2>you guys have been cheer.

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 1>And so well honestly cheer. Like Emmy doesn't wear a

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of makeup, Like even in cheer I'm like, hey,

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to do more, and she's like no,

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Like she will not wear eyeshadow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like put this red will be well they have

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<v Speaker 2>to do that because you have to be like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Want her to have eyeshadow on so it stands out more.

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<v Speaker 2>And she she had to do in the eventy like

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<v Speaker 2>I had to put the whole things on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that that's kind of maybe helped in

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<v Speaker 1>a way. Like she just likes very minimal makeup. I mean,

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>like she's got beautiful eyelashes. She will always put mascara

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<v Speaker 1>on and she will curl them, you know. Sometimes she

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't ever do like face like full face stuff ever,

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<v Speaker 1>so she doesn't do a whole lot. Ramsey sees the

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 1>older girls plays around with it at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Jolie's got makeup and a big thing, but

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 2>like she doesn't. The only thing she'll put on is

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 2>like some yeah, some lip gloss, and like I think

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 2>she put like a little glowstick on one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Ramsey can do the whole thing. She actually

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<v Speaker 1>came down. She goes after she shaved, she goes, I

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>feel like putting on makeup. It's like, oh, you go,

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but we're not going anywhere. You can go put on

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>some makeup. She came down. I was like, heang, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>actually pretty good because like I suck at makeup. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the other funny part, Like I have to ask immy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how do I even do this? Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to teach you for it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just awful at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are spoiled because you just do it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't even like to wear makeup. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's helped too because I don't really hardly even wear makeup,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe you know, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I'm not like, yeah, I don't wear

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of mating and I know people who wear

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<v Speaker 2>a lot that then, right, And I think who you're

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<v Speaker 2>referring to, like where's always has a face on? Yes? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a definitely lens than the child to be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, want to be like mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think that too, Like I'm a tinted

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 3>SPF and rule girls you know. But I also was like,

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 3>I want I don't want to make.

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<v Speaker 2>It like I think Jolie told me I didn't look

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<v Speaker 2>pretty the other day when I had a full face on.

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 2>She's like, whoa mom?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like and She's like no, she was

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<v Speaker 3>so honest, right, Yeah, I just I feel like, and

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<v Speaker 3>this will lead me to the pinned. We will definitely

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<v Speaker 3>pin my other one because I have to.

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I'm going to pray a little bout how I

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.399
<v Speaker 3>phrase it, but I think it's probably relatable. But there's

0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 3>just this like there is certain pockets of friends that

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<v Speaker 3>when we plug into, just have this very grown up

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 3>like air about them. And I we just are very

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 3>ten years old still in our house, like I've just

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 3>done my best to keep them little, you know, And

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 3>so we plug into this other group of friends where

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<v Speaker 3>it's all about the crushes.

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And the marriage and like some of that I get

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 2>it's totally age appropriate. So I don't neednyone coming at me.

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Because I played mash and I had.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was gonna be I thought I married

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Joey from because on the Block because we both had asthma.

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 3>We were both capricorns, like I was positive. Yeah, yeah,

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 3>how many kids?

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I always got the shack five kids with Danny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, but I just am I'm just being a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more because I think they are at that age.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the difference between ten and eleven is between fourth

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:46.439
<v Speaker 3>and fifth grade.

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's big. It's a big it's big. It's when

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it all starts, fifth grade, it all starts. And the

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>reality is is depending on who they're around. Emmy was

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<v Speaker 1>always more grown up and it wasn't in a makeup

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>way that she was around older cheerleaders, you know, so

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>it's she just is, you know. And then Ramsey not

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<v Speaker 1>as much. Ramsey seems a lot younger at ten than

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Emmy did, you know. So I just think it depends

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>on the kids. They're all very different. And you know,

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>even Emmy and I were having this conversation the other

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<v Speaker 1>day because her kind of new group of friends at

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the new school, they're very different, very different, which I

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<v Speaker 1>will well, I want to talk about that all.

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<v Speaker 2>List as perfect as it's going to go perfectly with

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<v Speaker 2>my pen for next week.

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>But just explaining to her how even at your age,

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody's very different, and how you know there are

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>already girls at that age they're not going out not

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 1>looking like Prestine put together, you know, activewear, but like

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<v Speaker 1>put together.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's going into high school, oh yeah, which is normal.

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, there's a lot of they're like, uh,

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a hot mess. Let's be a hot mess together.

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>We're going to the Starbucks, you know, right. So there's

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>just varying a lot of different in the different areas

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<v Speaker 1>and different It's just it's been very interesting.

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 2>All of that, all very different. Well, I can't wait

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to chat school and all the different ages of school

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 2>that we're going into. I've got some major changes happening

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 2>that Kat knows about on the young side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't know. Stay tuned to your listeners. But let's

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 2>just go out and just be positive because we're still

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 2>in the Lions portal, guys, I'll go back to it

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 2>all right, Let's just be positive.

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<v Speaker 3>All I know for sure is that we will not

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 3>have this much as we as we age on. All

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 3>I know for sure is I can't talk and get

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 3>baby neither, guys. All I know for sure is this

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 3>is the youngest we will be yes moving forward, do

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? So, like we should just

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to just move into a different headspace altogether.

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<v Speaker 3>And ten years from now, I'm gonna wish I was

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 3>wearing and doing and living and appreciating all the season exactly.

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 2>And remember, for those my little anxiety fear people, what

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 2>is today? What do we know to be true? Today?

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<v Speaker 2>We are good. I am safe for the moment I've

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 2>been now it's a big question mark. And if you

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 2>see you're walking around the neighborhood, I am safe. It's

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 2>nice to meet you. To save her. I love you, Taylor.

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Don't call the cop. She's fine. She's just manifesting. It's shite, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>shape Bye guys, byee