Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, ladies, are you ready to just gab gab because
Speaker 2: apparently well listen. I love any criticism, whether good, bad,
Speaker 2: in between, positive, like all of it. Okay, right, no, boy,
Speaker 2: I don't like it. Won't tease up that way?
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 2: People want us to talk more. They're the shorter episodes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they missed like the long format. I've gotten so many,
Speaker 2: so you.
Speaker 3: Know what, I might actually be the girl for this
Speaker 3: kind of criticism, but once in my.
Speaker 2: Life it's like, all right, friend, I hear you, totally agree.
Speaker 2: Let's gab longer on the wind Down ones. Oh yeahn
Speaker 2: so we can go all day long.
Speaker 3: We pers like, oh shit, we always when it pops
Speaker 3: up in the chat on our screen, we know we've
Speaker 3: gone too long.
Speaker 2: Yep. But you know what we're gonna we we hear
Speaker 2: you and we're gonna extend a bit. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to start with a long winded story. I am yes,
Speaker 2: I love these Are you guys ready to hear some
Speaker 2: news like breaking?
Speaker 1: Dun? Dun? Do either of us already know?
Speaker 2: No? Catherine and I the way we look at each
Speaker 2: other when you say saying like this.
Speaker 1: I kind of love that we both don't know though.
Speaker 3: No, don't know at all. Be sure positive, k already,
Speaker 3: I don't Okay, I am go. Okay, stay tuned.
Speaker 2: What here we go? Oh and this leads into like
Speaker 2: a bigger conversation. Okay, I'm just ready to share this news.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sure, I'm racking my brain trying to think
Speaker 1: where we're going.
Speaker 2: Well, let's take some guesses to extend this.
Speaker 1: Okay, versation longer.
Speaker 2: No, we're not having a baby.
Speaker 3: No, no, No, you're saying it like you don't want
Speaker 3: to baby, not like we're not.
Speaker 2: We're not We're not having a baby.
Speaker 3: It's not that we get so many requests for this
Speaker 3: to be the whole video to be live somewhere because.
Speaker 1: Our freak out face. It's not that there's a reason
Speaker 1: that can't happen. It's not that what do you think
Speaker 1: it is?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm afraid to say. You're afraid to say. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm afraid you moving. I'm not going to say what
Speaker 2: I'm say it. No, I'm not going to say it. No,
Speaker 2: say I'm not saying it. Go are you getting a
Speaker 2: new manager? Because we definitely need a cut tape for
Speaker 2: a second. Well, what do you think area around it?
Speaker 2: It is work? Okay, what do you think it is?
Speaker 2: I can't say it. You can say it. I can't
Speaker 2: say it because we can edi.
Speaker 1: Because I can't say it because Catherine.
Speaker 2: Now you have to because that's the rule of how
Speaker 2: we work like this. Go ahead, you got a show. Okay,
Speaker 2: so but just because of it.
Speaker 1: If she didn't, that's okay.
Speaker 2: Well, if she didn't have a whole baby, that would
Speaker 2: also be sad. Oh yeah, that would be said too,
Speaker 2: maybe kind of Okay, go ahead. I mean, wow, I
Speaker 2: need my coffee. Okay, Okay, let me set the scene
Speaker 2: because I'm really excited to share this. Probably a TV show,
Speaker 2: I am, because if it was a baby, I'd be crying.
Speaker 2: I think we would just be a little uneasy. I
Speaker 2: am already tearing up. Oh I'm ready to cry to
Speaker 2: Day's this. I'm really I messed. Okay, you guys, this
Speaker 2: is going to be the biggest Yeah, I almost.
Speaker 1: That's why I wasn't gonna say it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So sorry, we really extended. Okay, they're like this,
Speaker 2: there is not the extension. This is not the extension
Speaker 2: in wish we were requesting. Okay, So Tuesday last week
Speaker 2: I get an audition that I'm so excited about because
Speaker 2: it I'm not gonna say which show it is, but
Speaker 2: it's a Taylor Sheridan show. Always good. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 2: always like and I know the cast in director. He's
Speaker 2: known me since I was nineteen years old, always been
Speaker 2: a fan in the corner, like he's great. Love him.
Speaker 2: So Wednesday, before we leave for the lake, I go
Speaker 2: put it on tape and then I get a text
Speaker 2: from my agent being like this is excellent. And then
Speaker 2: she's like I have a really good feeling about this one,
Speaker 2: and so does she say that often? Not often? No, Okay,
Speaker 2: a couple times, and I've gotten really close. I like
Speaker 2: the ones that she says like good feeling. So and
Speaker 2: the next day I get the notification that they've availed
Speaker 2: check to me and that he like thought my tape
Speaker 2: was amazing and like perfect for the role spunky. Is
Speaker 2: this a spunky rule? This is yeah, a spunky horse
Speaker 2: trainer who I was like, I'm like, I have like
Speaker 2: less than twenty four hours to like, yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: I remember talking to you you were on your way
Speaker 3: down to it. Yes, okay, was not like the best headspace.
Speaker 3: You were not in a spunky headspace. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to put you on blast, but a little bit of opposite.
Speaker 3: Day rolling into that audition and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: this is where you put your acting skilled into the test.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like did great and felt good about it. Okay, soever,
Speaker 2: all the producers are watching the tape and I get
Speaker 2: a veiled check again like she's one hundred percent. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I do this whole like everyone talks about in
Speaker 2: which I want to lead into the next conversation of
Speaker 2: like manifestation. Right. So I was like, okay, everyone talks
Speaker 2: about like visual manifestation, right, So I Am not going
Speaker 2: to say what show it is, but like I am
Speaker 2: at this location shooting the show. I am shaking Taylor
Speaker 2: Sheridan's hands like I'm visualizing like all of this I'm
Speaker 2: writing out because apparently there's like a Lions portal. I
Speaker 2: am like, I have this role like and I like
Speaker 2: feel it within my bones, like that's how it has
Speaker 2: to be. Yeah, and can you guys believe it? I
Speaker 2: got a call today?
Speaker 1: You actually got it? No you didn't, Okay, I didn't think.
Speaker 2: So, No, manifestation is shaking, like we're going somewhere that
Speaker 2: I don't like anyone. I'm saying positive about it, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I thought it'd be fun for like the whole
Speaker 2: setup of it. But my I know, but I'm like
Speaker 2: the manifestation of things, I'm like, it's shite, it's shipe,
Speaker 2: it's a shit for Alan's words, because I'm like, I
Speaker 2: did what they said to do. I was there, I
Speaker 2: was shaking Taylor Sheridan's hand, I was on a horse.
Speaker 4: I was in the like being like thanks for hiring me,
Speaker 4: and like getting my makeup done, and like in the
Speaker 4: trailer and like I genuinely believed it, felt it, And
Speaker 4: I said all the affirmations the last week.
Speaker 2: I said, every single one of them. You seem so
Speaker 2: much lighter. I thought, for sure you got it.
Speaker 3: And I was playing the part and we were talking
Speaker 3: about leveling the land outside, so I thought, oh, well,
Speaker 3: certainly we snugged some sort of deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then yeah, so no, but that brings up
Speaker 2: my manifestation thing because I've really looked into it with
Speaker 2: this whole like Lions portal stuff that's like happening. It's
Speaker 2: Leo season eight eight. So the lions Portal is opening,
Speaker 2: and you're supposed to call into the things like I mean,
Speaker 2: I was like, I am this role.
Speaker 1: I am like you were booking this role based on
Speaker 1: this scorpion stuff.
Speaker 2: No, I like, I was manifesting so hard that like
Speaker 2: what they said to do you know that, I was
Speaker 2: like in a piece of me. It was like if
Speaker 2: anybody heard you right now on your walk around the
Speaker 2: neighbor because I was like, I got it, get top
Speaker 2: of your like, hey, Taylor, great hanging with you. Yeah. No,
Speaker 2: And I like believed it. And then I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is a load of shite.
Speaker 1: I mean, well I couldn't told you. I don't know
Speaker 1: what lions Portal is.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing though, when I was talking to Alan
Speaker 2: about it, we were taking a little bath together and
Speaker 2: I'm like I struggle with manifestation because you're not supposed
Speaker 2: to be like and I'm still learning so much because
Speaker 2: I've been really like looking at Gabby stuff and then
Speaker 2: looking at this is my channel the things but like
Speaker 2: and the visual manifestation in And this is where Alan
Speaker 2: was like good with it. He's like, it's our kind
Speaker 2: of line of work, whether his goal scorers and his
Speaker 2: soccer players, Like, He's like, I can't tell my players
Speaker 2: to manifest scoring three goals because the reality of you
Speaker 2: scoring three goals, you're just going to be let down. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: So like me manifesting, like, yes, I can manifesting, I
Speaker 2: guess being on us set, which eventually I'll get on
Speaker 2: us set. Yeah, but like that's where I'm just like
Speaker 2: a manifestation. It's like it's just I feel like to
Speaker 2: keep people to have hope. I do believe so, but
Speaker 2: I don't know if I get now this whole visual
Speaker 2: because I'm like, if it worked, then I'm fucking visually
Speaker 2: manifesting everything.
Speaker 3: But I don't think it doesn't not help. So I
Speaker 3: read The Secret when I was twenty. Have you ever
Speaker 3: read The Secret?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like okay back then, yes, yeah, So I re listened
Speaker 3: to it on audio kind of often just jump in
Speaker 3: little pieces of it because I think it helps.
Speaker 2: My default is kind of bracing for impact, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're bottomed to fall out. Yeah, kind of like I was. Usually,
Speaker 2: I'm like I'm waiting on the email to say they
Speaker 2: you were one of three, and they, you know, went
Speaker 2: the opposite direction. That's how I usually live, right, But
Speaker 2: this time I chose myself like, no, I got it
Speaker 2: and I'm ann the life, So I don't think that
Speaker 2: doesn't go nowhere. That's my theory.
Speaker 3: I think that energy and that vibration is really good
Speaker 3: for you no matter what, and it could just not
Speaker 3: be this one, but you changing the way your energy
Speaker 3: is working is going to help for the next one
Speaker 3: because you visualized something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's where I think manifestation and all of
Speaker 2: that is just of course something's gonna happen if you
Speaker 2: keep going for it. And that's the thing I was
Speaker 2: talking to my girlfriend Taman about this or we podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm like, eventually you will get something because it's what
Speaker 2: you do and what's what you're striving for. And the
Speaker 2: people that don't are the ones that quit or that
Speaker 2: give up on that dream.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I still think you're going to get
Speaker 3: a call. She's a different character for this, and I
Speaker 3: kind of want to be right about that. I think
Speaker 3: I will eventually be. There's You're very Taylor Sheraton, like
Speaker 3: there's something about it because it keeps coming up personally.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I just mean like he was from
Speaker 2: Sons of Anarchy, and I love that.
Speaker 3: I actually nobody looks like, but I feel like you're
Speaker 3: within a degree of separation of him kind of often.
Speaker 1: So there's something to it, well, and I think it
Speaker 1: will help. I think it obviously helped your positivity around this.
Speaker 1: I mean, even talking to you the other day, you
Speaker 1: were way more upbeat about the fact that if you
Speaker 1: didn't get it, you were going to be okay. So
Speaker 1: maybe there's something to that that helped. I'm not a
Speaker 1: big manifestation person. I don't I kind of agree with you.
Speaker 1: I'm more of a things happen the way they're supposed
Speaker 1: to happen kind of person, right, you know, And I
Speaker 1: do think there's something to it, because you want to
Speaker 1: stay positive. You want to, you know, if you're always negative,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know that that exudes when you're
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think you're going to get a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities if you're always negative, you know.
Speaker 2: I think you have to have positivity.
Speaker 1: But I'm not picturing yourself there that's going to make
Speaker 1: it happen kind of person, because there's just life and
Speaker 1: that might just not be where God wants you, right,
Speaker 1: And so just to like visualize it doesn't mean God
Speaker 1: wants you there.
Speaker 3: But sometimes what's planted in your heart is because it's
Speaker 3: a desire of your heart.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe and he'll put you And I think that
Speaker 1: he'll put you there if that's where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 1: I just I think not that it goes against what
Speaker 1: I believe. I'm not necessarily saying that, but there is
Speaker 1: part of me that's just like, again, if God's if
Speaker 1: it's God's going to put you there, if that's where
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be. So I guess I just don't
Speaker 1: fully understand why we're just visualizing us in these places
Speaker 1: where we want to be.
Speaker 2: Well, that's my whole thing, and then I feel like
Speaker 2: it sets up for more letdown.
Speaker 1: Well that's why I was kind of surprised where we're at,
Speaker 1: because I feel like that would That's why I was
Speaker 1: afraid to say it, because I'm like, sounds like it
Speaker 1: could be a lot more letdown. You're picturing yourself there, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and shaking his hand and doing all those things,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're not there, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that would be a lot
Speaker 1: more letdown. You've been very positive around this though.
Speaker 3: But this is the closest you've been to him, to
Speaker 3: his show, to a show with him.
Speaker 2: Right now, I've gotten to I keep getting to producers shoot.
Speaker 1: Which will be a good thing. And she even said
Speaker 1: that the other day. She was like, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, a stale was in front of him,
Speaker 1: you know, and all of a sudden, then it'll all
Speaker 1: be a positive in the end.
Speaker 2: It's the day that they don't see me in the tapes,
Speaker 2: the day that I don't get the opportunity right, because
Speaker 2: I do believe again, yes, you can't just sit in
Speaker 2: a well. Alan was saying this, like he's like, you're
Speaker 2: doing everything you can do. It's not like you're just
Speaker 2: sitting in your house, not auditioning, not trying, not putting
Speaker 2: forth the effort. But when it just comes to that
Speaker 2: visual aspect of things, that's where I'm like, to me,
Speaker 2: that is just a load of shite. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: can visualize being in something one day. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: of course, one day, if I keep going, it'll happen,
Speaker 2: which I truly believe. Yeah, Like at some point, if
Speaker 2: I don't give up, I will be back on a show.
Speaker 1: So when you have to believe that, what's the point
Speaker 1: and keep what's the point in keeping going.
Speaker 2: If you don't believe that, right, well, because it's what
Speaker 2: you want. Yeah, so do you think?
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is where I get in my own way,
Speaker 3: which is it's actually really interesting to me and in
Speaker 3: alignment to me that we're having this conversation because I
Speaker 3: the last couple of days have been pretty low, a
Speaker 3: little spirally, mostly just around money, like the world's expensive.
Speaker 3: You know, listen, hashtag blest. Everyone's working, but it's just expensive.
Speaker 3: As we know, horses are fifty k we've been in it.
Speaker 3: So but like the last the last couple of days,
Speaker 3: I'm going Kristin, like you've just got to get yourself
Speaker 3: in a better like what do you need to do?
Speaker 3: So I have a vision board, so I just like
Speaker 3: sat in front of it because I thought I just
Speaker 3: need to like change.
Speaker 2: I think probably like.
Speaker 3: You know, of course, the way we're raised all of that,
Speaker 3: the default is to is for the bottom to fall out.
Speaker 3: So my question is, and maybe we don't have the
Speaker 3: answer to this as a group, but I can see
Speaker 3: things for myself.
Speaker 2: They just feel far away.
Speaker 3: So that feels kind of like what you're saying, Like
Speaker 3: I can envision myself being like Oprah. But it feels
Speaker 3: like it's at least five or ten years away, but
Speaker 3: it's felt five or ten years away for twenty years.
Speaker 2: So I keep trying to be hopeful.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, how do I bring the goal line
Speaker 3: to me instead of me keep going to the goal
Speaker 3: that keeps starting to change? Does that make sense? Right?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you're envisioning yourself being Oprah, what's
Speaker 1: the likelihood of you being Oprah?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, just something like that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, but I think that, yeah, totally. But it's like
Speaker 1: but then the.
Speaker 3: Jama's point, I'm like, well, okay, so I do this,
Speaker 3: which is great, right, great, and it fuels me, which
Speaker 3: I need. But then I'm like, are there people this
Speaker 3: is to her point, are there people that even know
Speaker 3: that I'd want to do that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Because I don't really talk about myself like that and
Speaker 3: I don't put myself out there like that.
Speaker 2: And see that's where I think the whole manifestation actually
Speaker 2: is positive and does work. You have to put forth right,
Speaker 2: putting it out there, yeah, because if not, then you're
Speaker 2: never going to do it. And that's with people, right,
Speaker 2: But if you want it to happen, you got to
Speaker 2: put it out there.
Speaker 1: You have to try right well, and then there's a
Speaker 1: lot of obviously work that goes into that, you know.
Speaker 1: And I don't know the whole manifestation thing. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's not saying just picture yourself there and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're there.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it crosses because I was talking to
Speaker 2: Amy about this in our session the other day yesterday actually,
Speaker 2: but it was she'sun sabbatical, how'd you get a session?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 2: No, she's done, she's back. She's back. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: a month, but she was basically when I brought up
Speaker 2: the Lions portal thing, She's like faith and I think
Speaker 2: manifestation there could be elements in it, yeah, but a
Speaker 2: lot of times it's they don't. They're just like, no,
Speaker 2: it's God's plain and timing and ask for ask him.
Speaker 2: Not absolutely as stars or the I've I very much
Speaker 2: feel that way. I try to kind of like keep
Speaker 2: that to myself a little bit, but I very much
Speaker 2: do feel that way. But also in the sense that
Speaker 2: like you, to me, that's such a positive thing, you know,
Speaker 2: and I know it can feel like but it's like, man,
Speaker 2: you're gonna end up on that show where God wants you,
Speaker 2: and the timing that God wants you and the you
Speaker 2: know so.
Speaker 1: To me, for whatever reason, that just feels so much
Speaker 1: more like, Oh, that just makes me so happy thinking
Speaker 1: about it. It may not feel good in the moment,
Speaker 1: but but I've just never been one that. To me,
Speaker 1: they've always counteracted each other a little bit. However I've
Speaker 1: tried to do it or handled it or whatever. They
Speaker 1: just feel counterintuitive a little bit to me. But I'm
Speaker 1: not knocking anyone that does feel that way. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of very strong people of faith who also
Speaker 1: follow the stars or you know or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I think there's something to it. Sure, like the
Speaker 2: energy of things.
Speaker 3: I do too, I just also do think like this
Speaker 3: is what I have to remember. So I'm like, I
Speaker 3: want to be Oprah. What's my capacity for being Oprah?
Speaker 2: Right now? Right? I have a three year old I'm homeschooling.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I was going to say.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the likelihood of you really working so
Speaker 1: hard to get to a point right your Oprah?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And so I have also yeah, Oprah, I mean like
Speaker 1: that's like major, It's what I've always wanted to do.
Speaker 3: My like.
Speaker 1: Regious but I believe that my dream died with Regis.
Speaker 1: I believe that you can do it. I just also
Speaker 1: know that you have other dreams that would make that
Speaker 1: impossible hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, and listen, I'm using Oprah like loosely,
Speaker 3: like a funny, right, it's just funny to say, yeah,
Speaker 3: like a you know whatever, whatever that idea of that is.
Speaker 2: But I also just know capacity like I I don't.
Speaker 3: There's Preston's traveling. So for the things that really are
Speaker 3: important to me, like me being with my kids. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to trade a career and God knows
Speaker 3: that too, you know, Like I'm I. We don't have
Speaker 3: much teamwork with the way our industry is set up
Speaker 3: right now, so I couldn't do that so well and
Speaker 3: be with my kids. So I'm like, maybe that's why
Speaker 3: it's delayed and I'm in a refinement season and I'm
Speaker 3: just not waiting.
Speaker 2: But like, that's why it hasn't because you can't can't
Speaker 2: You're no room for it? Yeah, right, no room. And
Speaker 2: I think that's the piece of manifestation that you have
Speaker 2: to have room for it to grow. Yep.
Speaker 3: And they say that like clear half of your closet
Speaker 3: if you're wanting to have a husband and park on
Speaker 3: the side of the driveway so that there could be
Speaker 3: like visualize someone taking up space, and I know you
Speaker 3: lost that, but part of the visualization, they say. But
Speaker 3: also like I found a husband in my closet was
Speaker 3: very full, so I don't you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just I think there is something too, just the
Speaker 3: divine timing of it. But I also think it keeps
Speaker 3: us hopeful enough, and that's why I like to listen
Speaker 3: to it because it makes well in full transparency. It
Speaker 3: also makes me feel little more in control of things,
Speaker 3: and that feels calmer to me. So probably going dreaming
Speaker 3: and going like what i'd want it to look like this,
Speaker 3: and like it just feels like, I don't know, it
Speaker 3: feels positive and I just need more of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it makes more sense for things
Speaker 2: to come when the action is there, So it's like
Speaker 2: I don't want you to think that it's not going
Speaker 2: to be there. Oh I don't need it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I also like, you know, I'm starting
Speaker 3: my podcast back up, which I think is going to
Speaker 3: be great, but I was on this mission to get
Speaker 3: it out in September and yesterday my throat was closing
Speaker 3: and the school's starting and our house is a debacle,
Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, but what was I I'm
Speaker 3: my own boss, and I can do it in such
Speaker 3: a way. I don't have to do it in September.
Speaker 3: I could do it in January. And I have a
Speaker 3: little goal out there, but the goal for me would
Speaker 3: have to it goes calendar year. So there's an award
Speaker 3: that I would like to submit for, but it's in
Speaker 3: January to December, so doesn't mean no good to put
Speaker 3: things out in September.
Speaker 2: Anyways.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I thought, well, Kristin, why don't you
Speaker 3: just give yourself room to breathe and go slow?
Speaker 2: And so here we are, are you well? Speaking of
Speaker 2: the Lions portal though, oh gosh, we're gonna let Catherine
Speaker 2: come in on this little game of ours that she hurts. Yay,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's all about letting go of something and bringing something in.
Speaker 2: Oh oh okay, she hates me with that one. But
Speaker 2: it's true though, I think, and I think this is
Speaker 2: where I've been able to stay positive in this You're
Speaker 2: so positive.
Speaker 3: I just want to really say that, like it is
Speaker 3: wild I would have never guessed we didn't get a show.
Speaker 2: Well, the funniest thing was is yesterday? What was yesterday?
Speaker 2: Yesterday was the twenty ninth. Apparently it was supposed to
Speaker 2: be the luckiest day of the year. So in my mind,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the day I'm getting the call.
Speaker 2: I like when you go to dude voice, and that
Speaker 2: was the day I got the call.
Speaker 1: You got that call, girl, and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, damn it, like but it was like it
Speaker 2: almost made me laugh because I was like, of course,
Speaker 2: like I've been waiting for four or five days for
Speaker 2: an answer and you put it on the day day,
Speaker 2: like rude. But also, Okay, if the whole thing is
Speaker 2: then there's something else that's meant for me and I
Speaker 2: don't have to hang on to that. Yes, And I
Speaker 2: feel like that's it for everybody agreed, because it's like
Speaker 2: if not, what am I going to do sit in
Speaker 2: my room and cry or like be depressed. Okay, I
Speaker 2: have to like actually feel that this just wasn't meant
Speaker 2: for me and something will eventually come. In my timing,
Speaker 2: fuck no, but in his timing. Absolutely the timing, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're just being seen.
Speaker 3: That's that's what I was trying to say, you you've
Speaker 3: been seen so many times by these people, they aren't
Speaker 3: knowing You're a hard worker. Like all of those things,
Speaker 3: all of this does go into the recipe you know
Speaker 3: at some point, and that you want it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that you just keep on showing up. But
Speaker 2: that's something came up in therapy yesterday too, which guys,
Speaker 2: I was a little annoyed our favorite because there was
Speaker 2: something that was said that I was like, no, can
Speaker 2: we know it? Oh? I wish I could know. We're
Speaker 2: gonna know. I feel like she could say it don't
Speaker 2: And I understand it was said out of like love
Speaker 2: and care, of course, but yeah, I was expressing something
Speaker 2: that has been like ruminating in my brain and I'm
Speaker 2: having a hard time with and she mentioned She's like,
Speaker 2: that's generalized anxiety disorder and I'm like, nah, Like I
Speaker 2: don't have anxiety attacks. She goes, right, that's there's panic disorder.
Speaker 2: There's this, And I actually didn't know that there was
Speaker 2: actually from all the years that I've had therapy, I
Speaker 2: mean all the years I've had anxiety in the past,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that there was such a thing as
Speaker 2: like generalized anxiety disorder. So if you're thinking of this
Speaker 2: one thing over and over and over and over and
Speaker 2: over again, it's called generalized anxiety disorder. And she's like,
Speaker 2: maybe you should get on something to like ease that,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, I don't want to get back
Speaker 2: on medicine. I worked so hard to get off of medicine.
Speaker 2: But I was like, I'm here to talk it out
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I'm just having a bad day. Well, also,
Speaker 2: we live in a very there's a we live in that.
Speaker 1: She said, that's a fair that's a fair response in
Speaker 1: which one to say no, I don't want to get
Speaker 1: on something. Yeah, I mean that might be true. I
Speaker 1: mean that's obviously probably true. She's a therapist, but I
Speaker 1: think it's a very fair response to just say no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get back on medicine.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I have a question for us too inside of this,
Speaker 3: are we over diagnosing as a as a society, Because
Speaker 3: I'm starting to feel like, okay, eggs are eleven dollars.
Speaker 3: Things aren't always looking up economy wise, right, Like work
Speaker 3: is hard, things cost money. To me, what you're describing
Speaker 3: is just a normal day in the life of any
Speaker 3: mom or person like worrying about something doesn't give you
Speaker 3: a general anxiety disorder.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, but here's a thing too, And what I
Speaker 2: told her I was like, am I excessively worrying about
Speaker 2: this thing? Yes? And like sometimes it does affect my
Speaker 2: daily life, which is why people would. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, I'm like, I know, or I feel at
Speaker 2: least that I'm strong enough to say I can combat
Speaker 2: that thought with a positive thought if I do it
Speaker 2: consistently for an extending amount of time. That's where I
Speaker 2: believe that positive affirmations, I agree can work. Now. It's
Speaker 2: not knocking anybody that has to because listen, I was
Speaker 2: on medication for what eighteen something years? Yeah, like yeah, forever,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and I've worked hard to
Speaker 2: not but I think there's also like periods of times
Speaker 2: when you can be low and then also like I
Speaker 2: do believe in like affirming out of that and just
Speaker 2: being like, no, I'm choosing to be positive and I'm
Speaker 2: okay and I'm safe, and like having those affirmations to
Speaker 2: not let me feel what I was feeling or like
Speaker 2: ruminating on Well.
Speaker 1: It's interesting coming from a person who I guess technically
Speaker 1: does not have anxiety. Do I feel anxious about certain
Speaker 1: things at times?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't really know. But it's
Speaker 1: so interesting you say that, because coming from someone who
Speaker 1: doesn't have anxiety, I hate to admit this because this
Speaker 1: sounds bad, but that's how we can feel when people
Speaker 1: are anxious about things, like, hey, can you not just
Speaker 1: like have a positive thought and like pop out whatever?
Speaker 1: So where I'm going with that is is I think
Speaker 1: sometimes you can learn those coping mechanisms and be able
Speaker 1: to get out of that. But if you're prone to
Speaker 1: overthinking and having anxious thoughts or whatever, you have to
Speaker 1: learn those, right, I mean, you have to learn how
Speaker 1: to get out of that, right. But Dad, don't think
Speaker 1: that that means you necessarily always need medicine. If you've
Speaker 1: learned the tools to work with that, I would think, Again,
Speaker 1: I don't have anxiety, but and if that works for you,
Speaker 1: and if you're able to go positive and get yourself
Speaker 1: out of that, then I don't see why there.
Speaker 2: Would be a need for me, do you okay?
Speaker 3: Is that is there a way to know kind of
Speaker 3: the general of what you're worrying about. Well, so the
Speaker 3: whole thing is, like I don't want waiting to find therapy,
Speaker 3: but you're inn thirty thousand feet up right.
Speaker 2: It's like the like I think the whole thing is
Speaker 2: like feeling unsafe and like the bottom falling out right,
Speaker 2: So it's like kind of living in that. So then
Speaker 2: it go to like a a health anxiety or so
Speaker 2: I like ruminate on like things and I can't. I
Speaker 2: have a hard time sometimes getting out of it, you know,
Speaker 2: And I just keep thinking that thought over and over
Speaker 2: and over again. I don't have anxiety, like I'm not
Speaker 2: having a panic attack over it, right, but like I
Speaker 2: get anxiety or anxious thoughts around like a specific thing
Speaker 2: that can like coming up.
Speaker 1: I just feel like everyone does great. And again I
Speaker 1: would still classify myself as not getting anxiety, and I
Speaker 1: will find or not being anxious necessarily, but I will
Speaker 1: find myself at least i'd say every couple of weeks
Speaker 1: asking myself, I'll go, what am I anxious about? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'll feel that anxious feeling like I do get that.
Speaker 1: I understand that feeling now I didn't used to. And
Speaker 1: I'll be like, what am I anxious about? And I'll
Speaker 1: like if I can pinpoint it, I'm like, Okay, and
Speaker 1: then I'll address it and then I'll be like okay,
Speaker 1: and I'll move on, or I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: and I just have to say I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm anxious about and move on. So I again, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we all have an element of that, right,
Speaker 1: doesn't everyone have a little bit of anxiety?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I think that is what I'm trying to
Speaker 3: say too, Like I do have a fear. I'm on
Speaker 3: the highway a ton, right, And if you know my
Speaker 3: grief past, then of course death is kind of like
Speaker 3: always in my brain, kind of probably more than like
Speaker 3: a normal healthy person should be. So Amy and I
Speaker 3: have talked through that, like I don't want to manifest
Speaker 3: it to your point, like I don't want to think
Speaker 3: about it so much that I attract it to myself,
Speaker 3: not saying that that would happen, but.
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, interesting. Yeah, I just want to
Speaker 2: say that piece too, because I asked her a question.
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, she's like one of the things I said,
Speaker 2: I think because everything is good right now, like me
Speaker 2: and my husband are happy and we are good, Like
Speaker 2: everything's good, My kids are healthy and happy. So I
Speaker 2: start to figure like I'm going to die, I'm going
Speaker 2: to get cancer or whatever. And so then I said, also,
Speaker 2: people always say what you think becomes so I've been
Speaker 2: fearing myself like, oh, I've been giving it so much
Speaker 2: power that I'm like, oh my god, I'm going to
Speaker 2: give myself cancer. But but yes, I think that you
Speaker 2: can your body like when you stress. Yes, I do
Speaker 2: think your body can create aches or pains or got
Speaker 2: I do believe in that when you stress so much.
Speaker 2: But is it going to give me cancer because I'm
Speaker 2: having these thoughts?
Speaker 1: No, No, Yeah, that's the other part of the manifestation
Speaker 1: that I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, that's That's also the piece I was like, once
Speaker 2: I heard that, I was.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, you know what I mean, Like, I mean, yes, stress,
Speaker 1: you can stress here out. So you mean stress is
Speaker 1: a big, you know, cause of ailments. But just seeing
Speaker 1: it again, I just can't believe that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No.
Speaker 3: But also I think when you're on the roads that
Speaker 3: we're on and it's so trafficky all the time, Like,
Speaker 3: for sure, that's in my brain because I'm looking at
Speaker 3: I'm just tending to trying to get us where we're going.
Speaker 3: And I've seen a lot on those highways with my travels.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I'm anxious about I default anxious.
Speaker 3: I default to the bottom, falling out when things do
Speaker 3: feel good. I'm extra anxious because I am preparing for
Speaker 3: whatever it.
Speaker 2: Is well and so and if that was stopping you
Speaker 2: from living and taking up most of your day, that
Speaker 2: would be generalized anxiety disorder because you're thinking about it
Speaker 2: all the time. So I don't think you think about
Speaker 2: things that much? Do you? Like, are you it comes
Speaker 2: in like it comes? Does it come in cycles? Maybe
Speaker 2: because you know what I mean, and my anxiety is
Speaker 2: definitely worse.
Speaker 1: And are you not able to to really function that?
Speaker 2: Ida am? I just have to shut it up. But
Speaker 2: the thing that has helped so much, And I wish
Speaker 2: I had my phone because I wrote it in the
Speaker 2: notes and it was so good. But it was like
Speaker 2: when you shut up the voice in your head, it
Speaker 2: actually makes it worse, it makes it louder. So instead
Speaker 2: you say, like I feel like I'm gonna die, be
Speaker 2: like what is the reality to that? I'm eating healthy,
Speaker 2: I take care of myself. Like, thank you anxiety for
Speaker 2: trying to protect me right now, but like I'm good,
Speaker 2: I'm safe. I don't need you I don't need you, like,
Speaker 2: and I think, like that's where even just like what
Speaker 2: we're talking about, like losing jobs and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I feel disappointment, but like I know that one day
Speaker 2: I will get something, Like I can believe that and
Speaker 2: know that. And it's like and when it comes into
Speaker 2: like the anxiety of things, it's like, right now, I
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about discovering something or finding something,
Speaker 2: Like I have a man that is showing up and
Speaker 2: he's doing his work and I'm doing my work, and
Speaker 2: we are you are happy and like and like to
Speaker 2: feel that, you know, because like we can't predict and
Speaker 2: that's all about the future. That's what the fears of
Speaker 2: anxiety what it is. But like if you tell yourself that,
Speaker 2: then you just keep quieting that. I'm like, can we
Speaker 2: just try that for a minute before trying to get
Speaker 2: a pill? Right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: And again I don't want to sound insensitive to now,
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to be very careful. I just I
Speaker 1: also have to believe to an extent, we have to
Speaker 1: be able to learn how to cope with these things, Sam,
Speaker 1: and we have to have faith out of them, and
Speaker 1: we have to be able to get ourselves out of them.
Speaker 1: I don't want to believe. And I know there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that go wrong in brains, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of medicine that has to be had in
Speaker 1: all of those things. But I do think that when.
Speaker 2: My serotonin needed the lexapro right for me to function
Speaker 2: and live a normal life, I could not leave my
Speaker 2: house without having a panic attack, right, like right, absolute medicine. Absolutely, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just think we've gotten to a point where maybe we
Speaker 1: are over prescribing. For sure, I have no doubt it's
Speaker 1: about overprescribing. But also, you know, maybe let's let's go
Speaker 1: first to how do we how do we help cope
Speaker 1: with this, and then if we can't, if we get
Speaker 1: to a point where we just can't and we're not functioning,
Speaker 1: then maybe we need to to do something about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like and to her point, like she was
Speaker 2: just like, it can just be until you start to
Speaker 2: settle out and really feel you're safe and all those things.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but I think that's a practice within
Speaker 2: me that I have to like do, that's my work
Speaker 2: to go I am safe. I'm just like trying to
Speaker 2: pull up stuff because I that's what I know, right, right.
Speaker 1: Right, right, So things are good. You're pulling out that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm like that's also yeah, a.
Speaker 3: Little yeah, but like knowing where you are at a
Speaker 3: personal level with I think you're doing great. I just
Speaker 3: and I'm not blaming on hormones. I'm really not, but
Speaker 3: there is, like there is scientific proof our levels change
Speaker 3: and those certain levels, certain hormones help us stay safe, right,
Speaker 3: Like it's animalistic, it's like a real biological thing. Certain
Speaker 3: hormones heighten our awareness and our hypervigilance. But that was
Speaker 3: to keep us safe when we needed to, you know.
Speaker 3: So it does go in a cycle a bit too.
Speaker 3: So those times like I already know the next couple
Speaker 3: of days. I I'm not projecting it on myself, but
Speaker 3: I am a little more anxious. But I also know
Speaker 3: a level back out in about five days, you know,
Speaker 3: I just don't. I just don't think you're in a
Speaker 3: medicine place. That's just my two cents, my non degree
Speaker 3: toting two.
Speaker 1: So you see very confident that you were able to
Speaker 1: talk yourself out of that, like to try it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think that, yeah, I think that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels like a healthy practice let's try.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I took both of those post chats went very
Speaker 2: long in that does anybody have a whine about it?
Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my update?
Speaker 2: But well it's not really a whine about it. I mean,
Speaker 2: we can certainly turn it into one cat.
Speaker 1: I am, well, I am just dead, and like senior year,
Speaker 1: like the to do list for senior year is just wild,
Speaker 1: and then new high school and then I know this
Speaker 1: is not a whine about it. But I know we've
Speaker 1: talked about this before, but like, at what age do
Speaker 1: you let like your girls shave?
Speaker 2: You know, like that, oh we've had that, you've shaved. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: so what happened was we were talking about Ramsey. Huh Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I love is also asking. Okay, so fourth grade, she
Speaker 2: came to me and said we were in the shower.
Speaker 2: We took a shower together, and she's just like, Mommy, like,
Speaker 2: can I shave my legs? Not to like cut you off,
Speaker 2: by the way, but just like yeah. And I called
Speaker 2: Mike and was like this is what she said, and
Speaker 2: he goes, I feel like it's too young, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I agree with you. He's like, let's revisit
Speaker 2: in fifth grade. Okay, so I think we talked about it.
Speaker 1: That's what we did. I think we talked.
Speaker 2: We talked a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then at the lake this summer, you know, we
Speaker 2: were in the shower and she's like, Mommy, look how
Speaker 2: dark my hair is? She has dark hair. She's like,
Speaker 2: can I please shave? And I said in that moment
Speaker 2: and I ended up, I'll say so in that moment,
Speaker 2: I was like, make does it make you feel a
Speaker 2: certain way? She's like yeah, she's like. I was like,
Speaker 2: she's like on the dock. She I was like trying
Speaker 2: to like hide it, and I'm like, okay, so it's
Speaker 2: not just now it's starting to make her feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: So I said, sure, I can show you how to
Speaker 2: do it. So, you know, I showed her, you know,
Speaker 2: just like how my mom showed me how to do
Speaker 2: it when I was in sixth grade, and you know,
Speaker 2: she she loved it, right, And then I was like,
Speaker 2: I gotta call your daddy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But it was just that moment where I was like
Speaker 2: I don't want it to get out of the shower call.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is this is a mom moment
Speaker 2: where I was like I want I'm going to make
Speaker 2: the call. Yeah, So I called them after. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: please just hear me out on this one. And he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at all. He's like, you did what
Speaker 2: you thought you got to do in that moment. And
Speaker 2: he's like totally fine. And I said, and listen, at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, she's not gonna want to
Speaker 2: do this every couple of days because she's going to
Speaker 2: see that it's work to keep your life shaved, right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And she's only done it once since then. You know,
Speaker 2: she asked for a razor in her shower. I haven't
Speaker 2: gotten her one yet, but because it's gotten like long again,
Speaker 2: you know, and she's like, mom, you know, school's coming
Speaker 2: up or whatever, she's going to have it in my shower.
Speaker 2: But I am going to let her do it, like
Speaker 2: it's something that like, if it's making her feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: I think she'll realize it's a chore and it's not fun.
Speaker 2: But if she wants to do it, I'm now. I'm like,
Speaker 2: she's in fifth grade and you know I did it
Speaker 2: in six and it's something that has made her feel
Speaker 2: self conscious, and so I've said, okay, yeah, oh we
Speaker 2: shaved Jamesey's like yesterday. Okay, well that's where I was going.
Speaker 1: But my whole point is is why does it matter
Speaker 1: how old they are? I'll turn that into a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of a whine.
Speaker 2: I will say this. I feel like.
Speaker 1: Like it's not hurting anyone else. It actually affects no one.
Speaker 2: No. When that Ax and I were talking about it,
Speaker 2: it just feels so old and like.
Speaker 1: It it's like a oh, I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: sexualized thing at all. But having said that, Ramsey's hair
Speaker 1: was awful. Yeah, I mean she has my dark long
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, God bless her. Like it's bad.
Speaker 2: I think that's what's time because it's blonde.
Speaker 1: But it does well, that's where I was also kind
Speaker 1: of going with it. It does feel old. My youngest
Speaker 1: just shaved your legs, so it's like I have a senior,
Speaker 1: I have a girl going into high school and have
Speaker 1: a girl now shaving her legs. But the confidence when
Speaker 1: she got out of that bath, I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't care if everyone in this town has something to
Speaker 1: say about that girl shaving her legs.
Speaker 2: Does it affect them?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not if someone's looking at them sexualizing them because
Speaker 1: their legs are smooth and not hairy, then that's on them.
Speaker 1: That's not on my kid.
Speaker 2: You know, I agree with you. I'm just like I
Speaker 2: think that's where, like fourth grade, for some reason, shave
Speaker 2: legs just felt too young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I remember we had talked about it before.
Speaker 1: So then when you know, I had looked back at
Speaker 1: Ramsey the other day and she was sitting there and
Speaker 1: I was like, literally in my head thinking.
Speaker 2: Her legs are going.
Speaker 1: You got to be a good friend to know. And
Speaker 1: then she find she said something about it. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: my leg hares have gotten worse, like a lot hairrier.
Speaker 2: And I was like, let's shave them.
Speaker 1: I mean why not? Yeah, you know, and like it
Speaker 1: just again, they won't do it that often. Emmy did
Speaker 1: it this same time, just because she wanted to, and
Speaker 1: I was like, if you want to, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Like I that I don't care when something like that, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you're not gonna want to do it.
Speaker 1: I still look at her. I mean, she goes to
Speaker 1: cheering shorts every day and I'm like, are we going
Speaker 1: with hair? Yeah, nobody cares. And she's a flyer and
Speaker 1: they're all touch and they're like they don't care. She
Speaker 1: doesn't care, but hers are like blonde. I can only
Speaker 1: tell what I'm like. The sun is like on them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they feel uncomfortable, uncomfortable about it, it's not affecting
Speaker 1: anyone else in my opinion, So I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: if it makes them feel good. But it was that
Speaker 1: moment of my youngest just shaved her legs.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine, like like I am actually really.
Speaker 1: Ready for him to go to college in this sense
Speaker 1: that I know he's ready for college and like he's
Speaker 1: mature and stuff like that. Like I again, I don't
Speaker 1: ruminate on things very long, so I don't think much
Speaker 1: about like when he's gone. I just try not to
Speaker 1: think about that. I just think of like the positive
Speaker 1: parts of it. Like he's applying on Saturday, like August
Speaker 1: first applications open up. I know, it's it's looking far away,
Speaker 1: not anymore really right now, he's looking at two Alabama schools,
Speaker 1: BAMA and then a smaller one we haven't visited yet,
Speaker 1: North Alabama, which is a smaller option. He doesn't really
Speaker 1: have a huge preference on where he goes, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of started to stress him out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like he's like, I don't have like the school. I'm
Speaker 1: just like I got to go to or what I
Speaker 1: got to do. I don't know what I want to do.
Speaker 1: Then I'm like pick a big option and a small
Speaker 1: option and then you know, take the time and pick whenever.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so my.
Speaker 1: Youngest is shaving her legs. I know it's the first
Speaker 1: for you though, So that's like a whole different. It's
Speaker 1: like first and the last are just like a whole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't even imagine. I'm saving all my fifth
Speaker 2: grade chat for when school starts, but yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: I've got a couple of things pinned. So it was
Speaker 2: kind of a whine, kind of not what's the line?
Speaker 2: There wasn't really a whine. That's all I had. My
Speaker 2: son's going to college.
Speaker 3: I can.
Speaker 2: You can whine about the bill of that, and you
Speaker 2: can whine about the subparation. Got uh I do.
Speaker 3: It's actually kind of along these lines, so all unpinned
Speaker 3: because I've had this in my little where are we
Speaker 3: with makeup and these children kind of goes along the
Speaker 3: same lines, like and I know, Kat, you forged the
Speaker 3: territory before us, but I struggle because love is so stunning.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you are your eyebrowsier lash, Like she're just
Speaker 3: a special little human, you know, like you need nothing.
Speaker 3: None of our girls need anything. No ten year old
Speaker 3: needs makeup. But I also know it's like I So
Speaker 3: she went to a performing arts camp last week, and
Speaker 3: she the second to last day, she was like, can
Speaker 3: I wear a masskara? And I said, ah, not today,
Speaker 3: you know, like I just was okay. But then the
Speaker 3: last day they had their performance, so she's like, can
Speaker 3: I wear a masscarat is? Of course, like you know,
Speaker 3: we do that for cheer, yeap whatever. And then I
Speaker 3: get to the school where they're hosting this little camp
Speaker 3: and every little girl is like in semi semi full glam,
Speaker 3: like we are eyeshadow, We've got some and listen, all
Speaker 3: well tastefully done, but like still they're just all such
Speaker 3: little girls and like what are we doing? And then
Speaker 3: I ran into a friend yesterday and they're little girls
Speaker 3: and again, so she has all girls and their youngest
Speaker 3: is but her youngest is with the other two big
Speaker 3: girls also wearing makeup, and I'm like, what is am
Speaker 3: I I'm gonna be the.
Speaker 2: Person that's and I'm not against it. I want to
Speaker 2: say that, hey, but I just am strugg young, but
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not. We don't have girls in dance or cheer,
Speaker 2: so like, yeah, I'm not putting. I think the last
Speaker 2: time Jolie had makeup on was when we did a
Speaker 2: fun little mommy day out and we went for nott
Speaker 2: Cracker tea for Christmas and we did like a like
Speaker 2: we had a I had someone do our makeup for
Speaker 2: this one thing and it was that was in Christmas.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't ask if she wants it on.
Speaker 2: She doesn't ask to put it on, and I'm just like,
Speaker 2: if she did, I'd be like, throw some lip gloss on,
Speaker 2: but that's it, Like I'm not fitting you. Like I
Speaker 2: just think that's way too young personally for me. But
Speaker 2: then I watched Lion already grabbing a blushbrush because she
Speaker 2: the younger sister, So I'm like, is this gonna be
Speaker 2: like are we like? I just I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just think it's if she If Jolie was gonna do
Speaker 2: like a makeup routine fifth grade, I just think it's
Speaker 2: too young. I really do.
Speaker 1: I do too.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm struggling because I so reformed again you
Speaker 2: have a get a younger that probably started and again,
Speaker 2: you guys have been cheer.
Speaker 1: And so well honestly cheer. Like Emmy doesn't wear a
Speaker 1: lot of makeup, Like even in cheer I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: I think you need to do more, and she's like no,
Speaker 1: Like she will not wear eyeshadow.
Speaker 2: That's like put this red will be well they have
Speaker 2: to do that because you have to be like I.
Speaker 1: Want her to have eyeshadow on so it stands out more.
Speaker 2: And she she had to do in the eventy like
Speaker 2: I had to put the whole things on.
Speaker 1: But I think that that's kind of maybe helped in
Speaker 1: a way. Like she just likes very minimal makeup. I mean,
Speaker 1: like she's got beautiful eyelashes. She will always put mascara
Speaker 1: on and she will curl them, you know. Sometimes she
Speaker 1: she doesn't ever do like face like full face stuff ever,
Speaker 1: so she doesn't do a whole lot. Ramsey sees the
Speaker 1: older girls plays around with it at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Jolie's got makeup and a big thing, but
Speaker 2: like she doesn't. The only thing she'll put on is
Speaker 2: like some yeah, some lip gloss, and like I think
Speaker 2: she put like a little glowstick on one.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ramsey can do the whole thing. She actually
Speaker 1: came down. She goes after she shaved, she goes, I
Speaker 1: feel like putting on makeup. It's like, oh, you go,
Speaker 1: but we're not going anywhere. You can go put on
Speaker 1: some makeup. She came down. I was like, heang, girl,
Speaker 1: actually pretty good because like I suck at makeup. That's
Speaker 1: the other funny part, Like I have to ask immy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do I even do this? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I've been trying to teach you for it's.
Speaker 2: Just awful at it.
Speaker 1: But we are spoiled because you just do it for us.
Speaker 1: Like I don't even like to wear makeup. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's helped too because I don't really hardly even wear makeup,
Speaker 1: so maybe you know, so.
Speaker 2: I think that I'm not like, yeah, I don't wear
Speaker 2: a lot of mating and I know people who wear
Speaker 2: a lot that then, right, And I think who you're
Speaker 2: referring to, like where's always has a face on? Yes? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: that is a definitely lens than the child to be,
Speaker 2: you know, want to be like mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that too, Like I'm a tinted
Speaker 3: SPF and rule girls you know. But I also was like,
Speaker 3: I want I don't want to make.
Speaker 2: It like I think Jolie told me I didn't look
Speaker 2: pretty the other day when I had a full face on.
Speaker 2: She's like, whoa mom?
Speaker 3: And I was like and She's like no, she was
Speaker 3: so honest, right, Yeah, I just I feel like, and
Speaker 3: this will lead me to the pinned. We will definitely
Speaker 3: pin my other one because I have to.
Speaker 1: I have to.
Speaker 3: Really, I'm going to pray a little bout how I
Speaker 3: phrase it, but I think it's probably relatable. But there's
Speaker 3: just this like there is certain pockets of friends that
Speaker 3: when we plug into, just have this very grown up
Speaker 3: like air about them. And I we just are very
Speaker 3: ten years old still in our house, like I've just
Speaker 3: done my best to keep them little, you know, And
Speaker 3: so we plug into this other group of friends where
Speaker 3: it's all about the crushes.
Speaker 2: And the marriage and like some of that I get
Speaker 2: it's totally age appropriate. So I don't neednyone coming at me.
Speaker 2: Because I played mash and I had.
Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna be I thought I married
Speaker 3: Joey from because on the Block because we both had asthma.
Speaker 3: We were both capricorns, like I was positive. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: how many kids?
Speaker 2: I always got the shack five kids with Danny.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, but I just am I'm just being a
Speaker 3: little bit more because I think they are at that age.
Speaker 3: Like the difference between ten and eleven is between fourth
Speaker 3: and fifth grade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's big. It's a big it's big. It's when
Speaker 1: it all starts, fifth grade, it all starts. And the
Speaker 1: reality is is depending on who they're around. Emmy was
Speaker 1: always more grown up and it wasn't in a makeup
Speaker 1: way that she was around older cheerleaders, you know, so
Speaker 1: it's she just is, you know. And then Ramsey not
Speaker 1: as much. Ramsey seems a lot younger at ten than
Speaker 1: Emmy did, you know. So I just think it depends
Speaker 1: on the kids. They're all very different. And you know,
Speaker 1: even Emmy and I were having this conversation the other
Speaker 1: day because her kind of new group of friends at
Speaker 1: the new school, they're very different, very different, which I
Speaker 1: will well, I want to talk about that all.
Speaker 2: List as perfect as it's going to go perfectly with
Speaker 2: my pen for next week.
Speaker 1: But just explaining to her how even at your age,
Speaker 1: like everybody's very different, and how you know there are
Speaker 1: already girls at that age they're not going out not
Speaker 1: looking like Prestine put together, you know, activewear, but like
Speaker 1: put together.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Well, it's going into high school, oh yeah, which is normal.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, there's a lot of they're like, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm a hot mess. Let's be a hot mess together.
Speaker 1: We're going to the Starbucks, you know, right. So there's
Speaker 1: just varying a lot of different in the different areas
Speaker 1: and different It's just it's been very interesting.
Speaker 2: All of that, all very different. Well, I can't wait
Speaker 2: to chat school and all the different ages of school
Speaker 2: that we're going into. I've got some major changes happening
Speaker 2: that Kat knows about on the young side of things.
Speaker 2: I can't know. Stay tuned to your listeners. But let's
Speaker 2: just go out and just be positive because we're still
Speaker 2: in the Lions portal, guys, I'll go back to it
Speaker 2: all right, Let's just be positive.
Speaker 3: All I know for sure is that we will not
Speaker 3: have this much as we as we age on. All
Speaker 3: I know for sure is I can't talk and get
Speaker 3: baby neither, guys. All I know for sure is this
Speaker 3: is the youngest we will be yes moving forward, do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So, like we should just
Speaker 3: I'm trying to just move into a different headspace altogether.
Speaker 3: And ten years from now, I'm gonna wish I was
Speaker 3: wearing and doing and living and appreciating all the season exactly.
Speaker 2: And remember, for those my little anxiety fear people, what
Speaker 2: is today? What do we know to be true? Today?
Speaker 2: We are good. I am safe for the moment I've
Speaker 2: been now it's a big question mark. And if you
Speaker 2: see you're walking around the neighborhood, I am safe. It's
Speaker 2: nice to meet you. To save her. I love you, Taylor.
Speaker 2: Don't call the cop. She's fine. She's just manifesting. It's shite, okay,
Speaker 2: shape Bye guys, byee