Speaker 1: Can you tell me that Joe's story, why was he involved?
Speaker 1: Or at your basements by happenstance he was involved.
Speaker 2: But I go in the bathroom and the doors are closed,
Speaker 2: like locked, so I'm like they're like knocking, like can
Speaker 2: we please get in here?
Speaker 1: Please get in here? And Joe opened up the door
Speaker 1: like oh oh oh.
Speaker 2: Because I'm bawling, like you don't know what to say,
Speaker 2: so they're like, oh, she's just not proposed to doesn't.
Speaker 1: He know who you are? Or does it?
Speaker 3: Maybe you know?
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, this episode is brought to you by boost Mobile.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Savannah James and April MG Daniel's Hill. Rah. Hi, guys, Hi,
Speaker 1: did you do interviews a lot? Or is this like
Speaker 1: a never the bane of my existance? You hate it? It?
Speaker 1: Tell me why talk to me about it? What is it?
Speaker 1: What is the thing? I don't know. I just would
Speaker 1: rather be quiet quiet. You know. He was so surprising
Speaker 1: to me when you guys launched this pod for that
Speaker 1: reason alone, because I feel like, you know, Savannah gets
Speaker 1: so much of like she's our unproblematic queen. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, That's that's how they but you keep
Speaker 1: it that way you like it, and I'm sure you're
Speaker 1: problematic to like every other human being in private life, right,
Speaker 1: but you never really showed that. So when you guys
Speaker 1: decided to launch the pot I even saw that in
Speaker 1: some of the comments, like no, Savannah, don't don't talk.
Speaker 1: We like you Like I'm like, y'all don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm actually a little more crazy, actually are you? But
Speaker 2: it's fine, just a little bit.
Speaker 1: But what made you want to come outside and give
Speaker 1: people a little bit more of you?
Speaker 2: To be honest, I think it's that I definitely have
Speaker 2: a personality.
Speaker 3: I definitely have a voice.
Speaker 1: I use it.
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of a practice because to use
Speaker 2: it publicly is not what I typically like to do.
Speaker 2: So coming out of my little box a little bit
Speaker 2: more that way is a baby challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. Whose idea was it in the first place?
Speaker 1: I think it was both couples together both. I feel
Speaker 1: like we.
Speaker 2: Always have aha moments, like you know, you're like talking
Speaker 2: to your friend, I'm like, this.
Speaker 3: Would be genius. She like yeah, girl, like she is
Speaker 3: the battery.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, were you surprised as her
Speaker 1: friend somebody who knows her so well and know how
Speaker 1: she's perceived that she was like down to do this. No, no,
Speaker 1: you were This is who she really is because you
Speaker 1: know her better than that. Yes, I'm like, y'ah are confused. Okay,
Speaker 1: take me to the friendship. So we have a seventeen
Speaker 1: years is that right? Yeah, that's a long time, long time,
Speaker 1: long time it started. You guys are like babies. And
Speaker 1: how I know you were working with Lebron?
Speaker 2: So I've done all the Lebron's stuff for years. Like
Speaker 2: outside of basketball.
Speaker 1: When you say stuff, what's the events, experiential, creative? How
Speaker 1: did you get that job?
Speaker 3: Worked with Maverick.
Speaker 2: I came up in the industry with MAV and Rich
Speaker 2: and I think we all just stuck together, like as
Speaker 2: we came up, we all leaned on each other. And
Speaker 2: I think being a black fean a lot, I would
Speaker 2: go to the guys like what y'all think?
Speaker 1: Should I do this? Should I do that?
Speaker 2: And they'd be like, yeah, girl, you should do that,
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, okay, great, yea. So I think
Speaker 2: just like being in the entrepreneur space and they're not
Speaker 2: being a lot of females there.
Speaker 1: They're really good those guys too. I haven't spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time around them, but I have been in
Speaker 1: rooms at dinners and they are I don't know, they
Speaker 1: share information rich Man like they share information. I've had
Speaker 1: moments while I was pivoting and I'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: MAV sorry to bother, Can I pick your brain? He's
Speaker 1: like absolutely, here's the time. Like they're very I don't know,
Speaker 1: just supportive of women in that yes.
Speaker 2: And so they were super supportive of me, and I
Speaker 2: think I did a lot of things that had more
Speaker 2: risk and I kind of was like, I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: this and be all right, we can support whether it
Speaker 2: be Clutch, whether it be spring Hill. Over the years,
Speaker 2: so all of the businesses that are LJ adjacent and
Speaker 2: around him, I kind of helped support in some sort
Speaker 2: of way. And Savannah would be at events and I'd
Speaker 2: be like, hey, what are you doing and should be
Speaker 2: in the corner like not talking.
Speaker 1: I'm like she got a lot to say say. Were
Speaker 1: you like determined to crack her up? Like when you did?
Speaker 3: I was like what you got to say?
Speaker 1: And what was going on with you? Were you just
Speaker 1: like protective?
Speaker 3: Protective? I think coming into.
Speaker 2: The NBA, Yeah, I wasn't as welcomed as I thought
Speaker 2: I would be, So I took that as like, let
Speaker 2: me just sit back here and chill because these ladies
Speaker 2: do not care about me. It was much more hierarchy,
Speaker 2: I feel like back in the day because I was yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm a baby, can y'all not really, I'm seventeen
Speaker 2: years old, guys.
Speaker 3: I just want I'm just like hey, They're like, you're
Speaker 3: gonna be here long.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, you were seventeen dealing with that, so
Speaker 1: you just chose to just stay to myself. So here
Speaker 1: she come on. I'm like ship. So yeah, that was
Speaker 1: the first and then I'm like, come on, come on.
Speaker 2: And then we were in the same city. We were
Speaker 2: both in Miami, and then that's when we got really close.
Speaker 2: Then she moved to Cleveland. I moved to LA and
Speaker 2: then I'm like, girl, you need to come to LA.
Speaker 2: And she's like, well, my husband place in Cleveland. I
Speaker 2: was like, we gonna just like I'm a manifested. The
Speaker 2: next thing, you know, he came to La.
Speaker 1: She was like, I'm coming to LA. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: But what was the thing? What was the thing that
Speaker 1: made you trust her? Because you clearly had been had up,
Speaker 1: you had walls up, probably protecting yourself from and rightfully,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's the way
Speaker 3: people show up.
Speaker 2: You know, you can tell it's really in your corner,
Speaker 2: who really messed with you in a real way. Like
Speaker 2: I just think it was that and how she showed
Speaker 2: up for me and understanding like I was in the
Speaker 2: corner sitting quiet like and trying to get.
Speaker 1: The best out of me.
Speaker 3: So I think it was just that.
Speaker 2: And I think consistency. I think people don't realize how
Speaker 2: big consistency is in friendships and in relationships, Like, if
Speaker 2: you're not consistent, how do you really depend on somebody?
Speaker 1: It's crazy now because you're grown and we see you
Speaker 1: and le she got the good outfie on, y'all got
Speaker 1: your pots and stuff. But thinking of a seventeen year
Speaker 1: old girl seventeen is first of all, if you was
Speaker 1: a mother at eighteen is white. My mother was. My
Speaker 1: mother was a mother at eighteen, and now as an adult,
Speaker 1: when I think about that, because I got a twenty
Speaker 1: year old and a twenty three year old, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they can't have no faes absolutely, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: what what were you like at seventeen eighteen.
Speaker 2: Just trying to figure it out. It was a lot
Speaker 2: going on. I was thankful though, to be home. I
Speaker 2: think that's that helped a lot. I was with my
Speaker 2: family still. I have my mom and dad and my sisters.
Speaker 2: My nephew was very much a foundation that I was
Speaker 2: able to lean on at that time. So it didn't
Speaker 2: bother me like not having external I guess relationships. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because my family was there. Obviously Lebron was there, so
Speaker 2: I'm like, cool, right.
Speaker 1: Here, I could be right here quiet. Yeah. My best
Speaker 1: friend too, it's from ACA, so I had her. You
Speaker 1: had her.
Speaker 2: That's good, so you kept your circle tight super yeah.
Speaker 2: Still still, I mean, you know, it's as adults.
Speaker 1: And you know, because you've been in the business a
Speaker 1: long time, it's like when you're popping, you're like a
Speaker 1: magnet for like, you know, opportunists, people want to get
Speaker 1: in the game, people who want to just be close
Speaker 1: to you because yeah, y'all pop it. Like you know.
Speaker 1: I just think as a young girl at seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 1: trying to navigate how to when to let people in
Speaker 1: must have been very challenging.
Speaker 3: It was, but I just didn't just to be honest,
Speaker 3: like I just didn't. Yeah, I just didn't.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't do a young girl that doesn't get like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I like looking out the window, like
Speaker 1: what them girls doing out? Like what are they doing
Speaker 1: at the club? What they doing outside?
Speaker 3: This is pre social Oh okay too, Like there was no.
Speaker 2: Side in Ohio, don the street from where I grew
Speaker 2: up chilling raising my babies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's like, it was fine, it was fine.
Speaker 1: And then hear this one come along.
Speaker 2: Okay, guys were gonna be friends and we're gonna be outside.
Speaker 1: Well, what was it about Savannah that you felt like?
Speaker 2: I think for me, I felt like I I saw
Speaker 2: a shell of a person because I was like, she's
Speaker 2: not that's not her real self. She's not this quiet.
Speaker 2: So I was like, see if it's true. Like and
Speaker 2: then I was just consistent, wanted the shell cracked. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh lord, this.
Speaker 1: Is doing that. She don't do that.
Speaker 3: This is a qualifier.
Speaker 1: What surprised you the most?
Speaker 2: I think, Oh my god, she's so layered. I think
Speaker 2: she just has so many facets of who she is, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, I think the world sees her as like
Speaker 2: this royal quiet like kind of you know, reserved person,
Speaker 2: and I think she is really a diamond. And I
Speaker 2: think when you shine light on it, it has a
Speaker 2: different facets to showing how people can look one way
Speaker 2: and you don't really know.
Speaker 3: And I think that is the importance.
Speaker 2: Of people keeping and making sure they're curious because I
Speaker 2: think you never know with someone's story, you know what
Speaker 2: you see is not And that's why we created Everybody's
Speaker 2: Crazy to be honest, because everybody thinks it looks like this.
Speaker 2: Like even when we walked in, you were like, where's
Speaker 2: the team?
Speaker 1: Were like, no, they came here, she's hair.
Speaker 2: I just think people believe one thing and they don't
Speaker 2: really know.
Speaker 1: But stop because y'all be having especially you you haven't
Speaker 1: Glam and Squad sometimes don't do that. I do enjoy it, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I mean I get my hair done and then I'm
Speaker 2: just improvised, like y'all gonna get what y'all gonna get.
Speaker 2: I'm not paying for Glam because I like the shop,
Speaker 2: like I'll I always say to her like, I was.
Speaker 3: Like that is expensive. She was like, that's not that expensive.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a.
Speaker 3: Waste of money. We need to like there's small things
Speaker 3: I'm layered like that.
Speaker 2: I'm also layered, like I still go to pull her outside.
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Speaker 1: you go the regular stuck people? Can you walk around normal?
Speaker 1: Or do? People shouldn't? But I do?
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 1: I do? I? But people like the other day we
Speaker 1: went to the Blue Note in La.
Speaker 2: To the Cashco Bain show, shout out the Cashco bank
Speaker 2: nice And I parked like I was coming from a
Speaker 2: nail appointment. And I just parked like I'm you.
Speaker 1: Went to this nail salon? No? Yeah, you so think
Speaker 1: Savannah Limbs the life of like I don't know, parting around. No,
Speaker 1: the nail girl comes to your bedroom.
Speaker 3: My nail girl hates doing in house stuff and can
Speaker 3: I enjoyed?
Speaker 1: I enjoy going to get my nails done.
Speaker 3: Also, she charged to ex yeah got it.
Speaker 1: Just give it though.
Speaker 2: But I came to the show and there's no valet
Speaker 2: at the Blue Note in La. So I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: we're on the park. So driving around and find this
Speaker 2: little parking spot. This little man said, and I said, sir,
Speaker 2: how much is the park?
Speaker 1: He's like ten dollars.
Speaker 2: I'm like, great park. Go to the Blue Note. So
Speaker 2: I'm standing there waiting for April to get there, and
Speaker 2: I said, by yourself, Yeah, I see it's a car there,
Speaker 2: and the lady is selling cakes.
Speaker 3: She's like, I do this a lot.
Speaker 1: Hey, anybody ever tell you look like Savannah James.
Speaker 3: I'll be like I get that a lot.
Speaker 2: After the fact, I came out and another friend of
Speaker 2: ours is trying to help us, like where are you
Speaker 2: all park at? I'm gonna take you to the car,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, it over here. So they're looking
Speaker 2: at me like, Savannah, you parked all the way over here,
Speaker 2: you walked over here. I'm like, yeah, Like, what's supposed
Speaker 2: to do? It's no valet? Like I drove myself.
Speaker 1: But I just don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just live I feel like our life is so abnormal.
Speaker 2: I try to keep it as normal as possible. That
Speaker 2: makes sometimes I go a little too far with it
Speaker 2: and be like, you know, you should have had security
Speaker 2: or somebody here with you, but try to stay nor
Speaker 2: heard you.
Speaker 1: What else does she do that's normal?
Speaker 2: I think most of our life is her life is normal.
Speaker 2: And I feel like we like direct Rightesshi, yeah we do,
Speaker 2: we do. We'd be doing what's the ratchet ship?
Speaker 1: You've done this this month?
Speaker 2: I would say the most ratchet would have been the
Speaker 2: Trap till the.
Speaker 1: Sun came Jesus, what was happening? Movie? Trap?
Speaker 3: And we came out the sun was on the rights
Speaker 3: Peo were like, so.
Speaker 1: We have the time.
Speaker 2: I think we do whatever we want to do, and
Speaker 2: I think Savannah normally is like, oh, let's try this,
Speaker 2: and we're like, let's treat it.
Speaker 1: Do you do this? Because you know, I have some
Speaker 1: friends that are like they can't go walk around, like
Speaker 1: Mary is one of my friends. So we go out.
Speaker 1: I always feel almost I almost feel like I'm jump
Speaker 1: into like security mode, like I become the friend. It's
Speaker 1: not just in like security, like is she okay? But
Speaker 1: I also am very protective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like that of like and we make sure
Speaker 2: security set up, everything set up.
Speaker 1: Like but not just that, but I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you have access or things, it's like a lot
Speaker 1: of opportunity opportunists, other friends, new friends.
Speaker 3: I think we give welcoming you knowing up on us.
Speaker 2: I'm looking like, no, it's okay, we don't give welcoming.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think we do.
Speaker 1: Who more so than the other he's.
Speaker 3: A nice one. I'd be like, ma'am no, Like I'm
Speaker 3: jet I'm not.
Speaker 2: She's like hey, hi, oh, I'm like no.
Speaker 1: Come on, Savannah, let's go see. Yeah, so you're the one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's chatting and let's go. No, nobody taking no
Speaker 2: pictures of us nowhere. Let's get out of here. Like
Speaker 2: that's why no one ever sees anything. It's given dodging weave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you become then the dynamic? Make you
Speaker 1: become then like the protector?
Speaker 2: In some ways, I just feel like innately, I'm not
Speaker 2: really that welcoming.
Speaker 3: I don't give what is that?
Speaker 1: Why is that? I just don't think I'm a.
Speaker 3: Chatter like that.
Speaker 2: I'm very protective of my personal energy, so I'm not like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, hi, and I'm not fake. So if
Speaker 2: I don't like it, I'll be like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can't do that. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't like it.
Speaker 2: Like I'll go sit in the corner and be doing whatever,
Speaker 2: she be chatting with whatever, and I'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: they come over chat with me.
Speaker 1: I said, no, keep chatting with her.
Speaker 3: She's gonna chat with you.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Then you start wanting to drink the alcohol said, I said, no,
Speaker 2: you get out calling.
Speaker 3: Like that is funny.
Speaker 1: It works, So it's okay. So what is the key then,
Speaker 1: to each of you? What do you think it takes
Speaker 1: to be a good good friend or to a long
Speaker 1: lasting to have a long friendship.
Speaker 2: It's a very clear level of understanding. I can sometimes disappear.
Speaker 2: I need to recharge my social batteries on e so
Speaker 2: I'll just disappear and people be looking for me and
Speaker 2: all the things you Savannah, just just not looking at
Speaker 2: my phone, not responding, not doing the things that people
Speaker 2: typically do. And I think that it comes with a
Speaker 2: level of that understanding that you know, sometimes I need
Speaker 2: my space just personally, and then the grace that your
Speaker 2: friend is able to show you, like Okay, I get
Speaker 2: where she is right now, let me give her a minute.
Speaker 2: I think very clear level of understanding for me is
Speaker 2: where a good friendship.
Speaker 1: And your best friend too, that you grew up with.
Speaker 1: You've been friends for.
Speaker 3: My whole life, your whole life for almost forty years.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so how have you had to I don't
Speaker 1: know what have you learned about that?
Speaker 3: With that?
Speaker 2: I think you have to be mindful of meeting people
Speaker 2: where they are and going with them on their journey
Speaker 2: and loving them through all of the things that they
Speaker 2: go through. I mean life be life in and I
Speaker 2: think that just being there to be honest as a
Speaker 2: sounding board or whatever. I live in La, she's in Ohio.
Speaker 2: So we don't speak every day, but when we do,
Speaker 2: it's really just catching up exactly where we left off.
Speaker 3: It's nothing weird, it's nothing like it's just everything is
Speaker 3: just normal.
Speaker 1: When you have a friend like that, it becomes almost
Speaker 1: like fam I have one two meter. We've been best
Speaker 1: friends since we're eight years old, so you could imagine, yeah,
Speaker 1: this big age she knows about me. I forgot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I think it's becomes
Speaker 1: almost like a family member, where if you don't talk
Speaker 1: for a month. It's like your cousin or your sister,
Speaker 1: You're still gonna jump right back into that, which is good.
Speaker 1: What about you? What do you got?
Speaker 2: I takes friendship very seriously, Like I'm not really plain
Speaker 2: about my friends, so there's no in between for me,
Speaker 2: Like I don't have associates none, like and you know,
Speaker 2: like sometimes when you talk to people and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's tiered friends, you know, like this is my top tier.
Speaker 2: Now all my friends are on the same level, They're
Speaker 2: on the same playing field. For me, it is consistency
Speaker 2: and how you show up and how you support me
Speaker 2: and the things that I fall short on, and then
Speaker 2: how I can do the same for you is so important.
Speaker 2: I feel like as you evolve, you need different things
Speaker 2: at different times in your life, and your friend has
Speaker 2: to almost be able to meet you there. But I
Speaker 2: also think radical honesty, Like I think sometimes people are
Speaker 2: in relationships and friendships that are just not honest, Like
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, I don't really want to say that,
Speaker 2: or like that's going to hurt that person's feelings, or
Speaker 2: you say it yeah, And I also want someone to
Speaker 2: say it to me, because I think that allows you
Speaker 2: to grow, and I think a lot of people don't
Speaker 2: want to live in that space.
Speaker 1: They like, I think, well, because sometimes radical honesty requires
Speaker 1: like a level of confrontation, yes, and some people do
Speaker 1: not like that.
Speaker 2: But I mean, then what is friendship? What is relationship
Speaker 2: if you can't have real conversation? I'm like, what are
Speaker 2: we talking about? That's why I don't have any in
Speaker 2: between friends because you want me to say some shit?
Speaker 1: Are you delusional? Like that's how I feel. I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you okay? Give me an example of what that
Speaker 1: looks like? Though? Like really, like what does that mean
Speaker 1: when you say honesty with your friends? Are you're telling
Speaker 1: them they their hair looks bad? Yeah? What's something you told?
Speaker 1: What was a radical piece of honesty you gave? Savannah?
Speaker 2: I'm like, you can't be on calls not saying nothing
Speaker 2: like that's sitting there, sitting there looking like I'm like, smile,
Speaker 2: do something, engage a little bit, like you're killing me,
Speaker 2: Like all right, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna work on it, you know.
Speaker 3: But but she.
Speaker 1: Takes it well.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you have to because it's only it
Speaker 2: is we're in business together. So like what I'm you know,
Speaker 2: then it looks like the partnership is lopsided when it's not,
Speaker 2: because when the door's closed, she'd be like, all right,
Speaker 2: let me tell you. And I'm like, well, why didn't
Speaker 2: you say that on the pall if you had an opinion?
Speaker 1: Why didn't What is it? What did you get to?
Speaker 1: Is it shy or is it just you're used to
Speaker 1: like I'm not letting people in or what. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that.
Speaker 2: I think it's just that I am not really like
Speaker 2: when I said the pod is an exercise for using
Speaker 2: my voice, I'm in that, Like I really would prefer
Speaker 2: to just be like.
Speaker 1: And then come back like that was some dumb ass shit.
Speaker 1: That's what she be doing.
Speaker 3: You thought it was dumbing You was sitting there.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, I thought that she was crazy and
Speaker 2: I was popping off. Also, we just did an exercise.
Speaker 2: We did it enneagram exercise. Explain I so you answer
Speaker 2: all of these questions. It's like thirty minutes worth of
Speaker 2: question to answer. Oh the god, No, we did it
Speaker 2: in private, okay, yes, and this is is one through nine.
Speaker 2: And you are this certain type of person, that's the
Speaker 2: way that you show up. Oh yes, I'm a quiet
Speaker 2: peacemaker y, So on the calls, I would prefer to say, hmm, okay,
Speaker 2: I get that, I understand, and then go back and
Speaker 2: be like, this is what I really think because I
Speaker 2: don't remember if on no feathers right, and I'm an
Speaker 2: active controller, so I'm like, the fuck is happying?
Speaker 1: Wait? Tell me about this personality.
Speaker 3: You need to take it. What It's called an enneagram test.
Speaker 2: Anyogram I've heard you like, what kind of person you are,
Speaker 2: how you see the world, what are the questions?
Speaker 3: Where are you? It's like, how do you make decisions?
Speaker 2: So a lot of people make decisions, Well, people make
Speaker 2: decisions gut, hard or head. I'm gut, Savannah is hard, right,
Speaker 2: so I'll be like, no, she's like, oh some time.
Speaker 1: Not happening. I don't make it so.
Speaker 2: And then some people are head, which means they come
Speaker 2: from like a knowledge standpoint of like head, I think
Speaker 2: you do, I do based on what that's my gut.
Speaker 1: I have gut to you don't think. I think your heart.
Speaker 1: I think the same little gut to know just like a.
Speaker 2: Like a of course, we probably all have a little
Speaker 2: bit of all things.
Speaker 1: But what do you lead with? I guess you think
Speaker 1: that's interesting.
Speaker 2: I don't think you haven't been able to lead like that,
Speaker 2: but I think that's what you really are.
Speaker 1: In my natural state. My natural state is a little
Speaker 1: bit different than what my career has correct forced me
Speaker 1: to become. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: would like to I would You're right, you're good. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, why I don't take that drink from that girl?
Speaker 1: My most natural state, I would probably like to be
Speaker 1: on the call and be like, yeah, I would like
Speaker 1: to do that too, but I don't have the luxury
Speaker 1: of that. And also, I'm trying to do this certain
Speaker 1: ship and you're can probably you're probably experiencing some of
Speaker 1: this too. Yeah, sure, well you're like, that's my natural state.
Speaker 1: But if I want to get from A to B,
Speaker 1: I have to show up differently. I'm gonna show up differently.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show and so I think the training that
Speaker 1: I've had over the past whatever thirty years.
Speaker 2: Yes, but that's also the conversation we have when I
Speaker 2: when she's on the call like quiet, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: you gotta say somebody you know, And so this.
Speaker 1: Is like fully pushing you out of your comfort zone way.
Speaker 3: But I'm prepared and I think it's time.
Speaker 1: You think it's time, do you have to like consult
Speaker 1: with because and forgive me if I think of this wrong,
Speaker 1: like you keep saying, are you okay that has to
Speaker 1: run things by a council like they probably would like
Speaker 1: me to. They would like you to mind, I imagine,
Speaker 1: because it's not just you represent your family really yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's not like you're moving through the
Speaker 1: world by yourself. So if you do, if you go
Speaker 1: wild and you go rogue, you get into some crazy ass,
Speaker 1: it doesn't just affect you, it affect your family. So
Speaker 1: you have to kind of, I don't know, navigate it,
Speaker 1: navigate that. Yeah, I think they will love me too.
Speaker 2: But I think at the end of the day, they
Speaker 2: know that I'm not going to do anything that's going
Speaker 2: to jeopardize anything that has been built today. So I
Speaker 2: think there's a certain level of trust there. I mean,
Speaker 2: so far, it's been so far with so much support.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they love How do the.
Speaker 1: Kids feel, like, does everybody do they like seeing you
Speaker 1: in this way? Like Mom's out doing potting and interviewing.
Speaker 1: Do not care? They don't care? No, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Well, they're supportive as well, but like as a check in,
Speaker 2: they just be like, oh, you gotta go to work,
Speaker 2: what you gotta go do? Like that, but supportive like
Speaker 2: the boys. Well, Zuri and Bryce have called into the pot,
Speaker 2: so that's nice.
Speaker 1: It's so cute. And Briannie is.
Speaker 3: Doing his own thing. Brinnie is twenty one and Thugan he's.
Speaker 1: Outside, not twenty one and Thugan he is living his
Speaker 1: best life. And Lebron won't call it or you don't
Speaker 1: want him to call it. He's called.
Speaker 2: Oh he has called, he's called, he's called, and he
Speaker 2: was on He's live, he's come on live with us,
Speaker 2: and he's super supportive. I think it's so nice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well we're like we don't. I don't know nothing about basketball,
Speaker 2: not a thing.
Speaker 1: Shut up. So how do you work with all these
Speaker 1: guys and you don't know?
Speaker 2: It's okay. I've been to three games in my whole life, and.
Speaker 1: You got a first. You can probably get you good tickets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she'd been writing me all the time, like girl.
Speaker 3: Lebron's like, don't bring her to the game.
Speaker 5: She talked too much because I've been over there talking
Speaker 5: game and playing like you too, are just chatting, like
Speaker 5: watch the game, So I feel like just basketball and
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking it's not where.
Speaker 3: I want to spend my time in the.
Speaker 1: So what have you What have you guys learned about
Speaker 1: I don't know, because, like you said, its out of
Speaker 1: your comfort zone and you never did a pod. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know this is not fully out of your comfort
Speaker 1: zone in terms of you know, I don't know, just
Speaker 1: but I do.
Speaker 3: I think I've always been behind the camera, That's what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: I think for us, it's not so much about us,
Speaker 2: though I think a lot of people think that it
Speaker 2: is or we did it because of that. I think
Speaker 2: the way we see the world and the way a
Speaker 2: lot of other people see the world is just very different.
Speaker 2: And I think we want to show more of a
Speaker 2: human side of like, no one has it together, no
Speaker 2: one like, no one is exempt of hardship, no one
Speaker 2: in life like whatever your hardship may be, no one
Speaker 2: is there to judge. But I think just bringing some
Speaker 2: humanity to like how people are seeing the world and
Speaker 2: just understanding the pressure people are under and even when
Speaker 2: you have the most resources, when you're evolving is hard like,
Speaker 2: and I think when you bring conversation to it, it
Speaker 2: makes people feel like they're not alone, you know, and
Speaker 2: I think that's why we feel.
Speaker 1: Like you were born to do this, though, but you
Speaker 1: jump right into it like I don't know you.
Speaker 2: Just I feel like we're comfortable with each other. If
Speaker 2: it was someone else, I don't think I would be.
Speaker 1: But even now, you're like, you're doing interviews, you're doing press, you're.
Speaker 3: Outside, girl, let's let's let's dress. Stress.
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Who stressed? You? Are you a boat?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: More than anything? Stress, because I feel like today like,
Speaker 1: why tell me, let's let's talk.
Speaker 3: I'd rather just be behind my computer making a lot
Speaker 3: of money.
Speaker 1: So then why are you doing it?
Speaker 2: Because of what I just said, I think the humanity
Speaker 2: and also to be honest, even this is curated, we
Speaker 2: could have went on a million pods.
Speaker 3: We wanted you like that's the.
Speaker 2: Reality like this because of my heart, because because of
Speaker 2: who you are, because of the story I know of you,
Speaker 2: because of the mom your story, the way you tell
Speaker 2: your story. I think we are intentional with every move
Speaker 2: we make. If people think we're not your delusion. If
Speaker 2: you think that, we don't think about it. We've never
Speaker 2: gone on anybody else's pod. So like when we started
Speaker 2: talking about doing this. We were very select on who
Speaker 2: that we want to tell our story with because I
Speaker 2: think there is a level of integrity and like how
Speaker 2: people tell stories is really important.
Speaker 3: So I think for me, I'm.
Speaker 2: Nervous because doing it is more is bigger than us.
Speaker 2: I think people look at us and like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: celebrities or whatever, talent or whatever, and I think it's
Speaker 2: so much bigger than that. I think what me and
Speaker 2: Savannah are trying to do and build is really for
Speaker 2: other people to see that they are not alone.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I get that. What about you? What is this?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: Does this feel normal to you yet? Nope? Still really so?
Speaker 1: I still I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think she says it a lot of like are
Speaker 2: you okay? I still think it's interesting that people even
Speaker 2: want to talk to me like really, yeah, are you okay?
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it.
Speaker 2: Bring you on because I got questions are you okay?
Speaker 1: Are you okay? Are you okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But I do think to echo April, what we're building
Speaker 2: is way bigger than us, and I think it's only
Speaker 2: the tip of the iceberg at this point.
Speaker 1: What is the goal what is the ever Like, what
Speaker 1: do you what do you want to build? What are
Speaker 1: you trying to build?
Speaker 2: So we're we are ultimately the end goal is we're
Speaker 2: going to have a holding company and all of our
Speaker 2: businesses will roll into it. So crown and conquer. Everybody's crazy,
Speaker 2: let it break. And I think what we're trying to
Speaker 2: build is just a place for people to understand that
Speaker 2: you can grow, you can laugh, you can be yourself,
Speaker 2: you can be authentic, you can put creative in the
Speaker 2: world for communities that are not represented, and you can
Speaker 2: still just be human. Like none of this matters without people, period,
Speaker 2: Like this show doesn't exist without your viewers hitting us
Speaker 2: and you know watching I think everything is bigger than
Speaker 2: just two people, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 2: think a lot of times people don't operate from that place.
Speaker 2: So I think everything we're touching is intentional. That we
Speaker 2: want impact. We want to see women thrive and grow.
Speaker 2: We want to see people realize that they're not alone,
Speaker 2: and we want to support other women like you and
Speaker 2: other women around us doing great things because it's rare.
Speaker 2: I think we act like this is normal. This is
Speaker 2: not normal.
Speaker 1: None of it's normal.
Speaker 3: None of it's normal what we're doing.
Speaker 2: None of it is normal. And I think a lot
Speaker 2: of times a lot of women like dim themselves. But
Speaker 2: I said, I said to Savannah an other day, I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is big, and it's okay to be big, you know,
Speaker 2: And I think both of us have been not okay
Speaker 2: to be big.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk about that too here sometimes like main
Speaker 1: character energy, yeah, right, Like you know I have friends
Speaker 1: who are in they might do glam or they do
Speaker 1: your supportive roles. Yes, so you play the role and
Speaker 1: sometimes you know it's a struggle to pop out of
Speaker 1: a supportive role. Yeah, I mean you have and you
Speaker 1: have one to pop out of a supportive role and
Speaker 1: jump into main character energy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I wonder for you guys if there's if that feels natural.
Speaker 2: The last year being in fear, what do you mean,
Speaker 2: like in fear about everything we're working on? What I'd
Speaker 2: be like, what the fuck? To men like girl, we
Speaker 2: can do it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're the we could do it. I would
Speaker 1: think she would be that we could do it, So
Speaker 1: we can do it all the time. We can do that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, that's always say what my body what,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. We gonna do it, Like what
Speaker 2: this is all day? We can do it.
Speaker 3: And I'm always.
Speaker 1: Like, huh oh.
Speaker 3: It took me so long to wrap my head around it.
Speaker 1: Like you feel are you feeling? Do you feel main character?
Speaker 1: And that you feels out?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: I feel ready?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 3: I feel like, We're ready?
Speaker 1: What about you? I agree? Was there a transition for
Speaker 1: you though?
Speaker 3: Like huge?
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about transition a little bit.
Speaker 3: The biggest transition came to me when my daughter says
Speaker 3: she wanted to be like me? What like why? But
Speaker 3: she said it when she was.
Speaker 1: Like six, and she's like, I'm like, why do you
Speaker 1: want to be like me?
Speaker 2: She's like, because you dance and you dressed and you
Speaker 2: do your makeup and all things that are feeling to
Speaker 2: a six year old. It just it scared me. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, I having the boys and being a mom
Speaker 2: and in that role and killing it in the way
Speaker 2: that I did, I was okay, well your mom shite period.
Speaker 2: And then when I had a daughter, I had to
Speaker 2: show up differently, like she's watching me. The boys ain't care,
Speaker 2: they like want to play basketball and whatever, but it's
Speaker 2: really somebody that's sitting there watching every move that I make,
Speaker 2: and what in my going to do to show her
Speaker 2: that she's worthy of whatever she wants to do?
Speaker 1: So is that your mova when you get uncomfortable, when
Speaker 1: you get uncomfortable hopping into main character energy.
Speaker 2: Like yes, yeah, at the end of the day, I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's not about me, even though it is about me
Speaker 2: as well, because I think it's it's therapy for me
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: But it's it's fine. What has surprised you about that
Speaker 1: transition is anything?
Speaker 3: It's actually not that bad.
Speaker 1: It's not It's really not that bad. No.
Speaker 3: I think I was more so worried.
Speaker 2: That I'm starting to see the beauty and making a
Speaker 2: mistake and learning from it as opposed to making a
Speaker 2: mistake and being judged for it. So I think that
Speaker 2: that's all that. Yeah, just to be like fuck it.
Speaker 2: If it happened and it go wrong, then okay.
Speaker 1: What did you learn? Did you learn them?
Speaker 5: All?
Speaker 1: Right? Keep it moving? Yeah? Yeah, because growth comes from
Speaker 1: the fuck ups? Yeah, big time. How are you gonna
Speaker 1: fuck up? If you're so worried about sucking up in
Speaker 1: front of everybody and then you're like stuck. I'm sucking
Speaker 1: up all the time. I'm like, oh, fucks up? Can
Speaker 1: I keep it moving? I fuck up regularly. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: hate it still. Yeah it's never get easy, but it
Speaker 1: never gets easy.
Speaker 2: But I feel like just embracing that is not going
Speaker 2: to be exactly how you envisioned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and going with the flow. Tell me a time,
Speaker 1: each of you tell me a time were the other
Speaker 1: one when you were becoming friends and you realize this
Speaker 1: this she's a real one, Like tell me a time
Speaker 1: when you had to show up or actually, you tell
Speaker 1: me a time Savannah showed up for you in a
Speaker 1: way that was meaningful.
Speaker 2: To a lot on the phone, which people just we
Speaker 2: don't see each other a lot, like people are like,
Speaker 2: how often do y'all hang out?
Speaker 3: We were like, I like to work, I get to business.
Speaker 2: So I mean we talk FaceTime a lot and we
Speaker 2: catch up a lot.
Speaker 1: On the phone.
Speaker 2: And I think that that became like a security blanket
Speaker 2: for me that I didn't realize I needed. So like
Speaker 2: just being able to call invent or say something about
Speaker 2: my job or work or parenting. It was like I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's like being in like a little bootleg.
Speaker 1: Partnership, you know what.
Speaker 3: I mean, and she always was with the shit. I'm like,
Speaker 3: do you want to go to Paris?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, let's go to Paris. Do you want to
Speaker 3: go to Bla, Yeah, come on, let's go.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. She do anything, like we could go anywhere.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So it was like limitless.
Speaker 2: I think that that's when I started to realize that,
Speaker 2: like all a lot was more possible than I really believe.
Speaker 2: So I think it was consistently over time, and then
Speaker 2: like two years ago. I've always felt like she knew me.
Speaker 2: But two years ago I went through a breakup and
Speaker 2: I was like at my office and I was sad,
Speaker 2: and she just came to the office and I was like,
Speaker 2: what are you?
Speaker 3: She like never leaves her house, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: Can give me a huck?
Speaker 2: And I just was sappy and crying and amazing, and
Speaker 2: it felt so good to just like not say what
Speaker 2: I needed, but someone just knowing. And I feel like
Speaker 2: I slowly had that over the seventeen years we've been friends.
Speaker 2: And then in that moment, I was like, Oh, she's
Speaker 2: just showing up because she knows that this is like
Speaker 2: hard and she and I was like, you just came
Speaker 2: here now, I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: What were you worried about her? Yeah? Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a hard it was a hard time breakup suck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you said, I'm gonna get in the car, i'mna
Speaker 1: drive over there.
Speaker 2: I brought her lunch on my way.
Speaker 1: What about what about the time she showed up for you?
Speaker 1: You got one of those?
Speaker 2: Mmm, It's been so many times I think she shows
Speaker 2: up for me. It's not necessarily crisis mode. It's just
Speaker 2: her Like she has a way with words that is
Speaker 2: like did you like study? Like how did you come?
Speaker 2: How did you put that together? Like that, just in
Speaker 2: a way that anything is happening. And I feel like
Speaker 2: with any situation, I can go to her and she's
Speaker 2: going to get me exactly what I need at that time,
Speaker 2: just talking to me.
Speaker 3: And she doesn't get fired up. I get fired up.
Speaker 3: I'm like, and you say it, and you gonna say this,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna do that.
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, ah, wait a minute, brother, I could
Speaker 2: record and I record and tell and say that and
Speaker 2: do that because she she's like, doesn't get upset.
Speaker 1: There's so many instances.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you meet people in life that are
Speaker 2: like soulmates, and I think people don't realize you can
Speaker 2: have soulmate friends. I have too, and they both have
Speaker 2: come later in life, which has been surprising. And I
Speaker 2: think soul maate is so attributed to a man a
Speaker 2: lot of times, Yah, it's not attributed to friendships and
Speaker 2: like some because I feel like people a lot of
Speaker 2: times don't value friendship like they're like, oh, I could
Speaker 2: people be inclined to get rid of the man before
Speaker 2: or get rid of a friend and stay with somebody
Speaker 2: that they shouldn't be with, like and never work on
Speaker 2: the friendship. And friendships need work too, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So I think it is like a soul
Speaker 2: mat connection. Like people are like you, guys are so
Speaker 2: in sync. I don't think we we realize, but we're
Speaker 2: in sync. But I think we don't work on that.
Speaker 2: I think that's just natural and you can have that
Speaker 2: with people. If you allow yourself to be vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Then how do you have time either one of you?
Speaker 1: How many kids?
Speaker 4: You have?
Speaker 1: Two kids? Two kids?
Speaker 2: I make a lot of time. People make time for
Speaker 2: what they want to make time for somebody. Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: so busy. I'm like, what, No, you don't know busy.
Speaker 1: We all do be busy.
Speaker 2: Though you'll be busy. But I think you see who
Speaker 2: you want to see when you want to see it.
Speaker 1: I'll be doing the ship I wanted to do. I
Speaker 1: do because by the way I started golfing, I really
Speaker 1: wish you would go. Do you hate it because your
Speaker 1: husband golfs? Do you hate it because your husband golfs?
Speaker 1: You try?
Speaker 3: I think it's.
Speaker 1: When I saw that he started golfing, I was like,
Speaker 1: I hope Savannah golfs too. You haven't even tried it?
Speaker 1: Just crazy, is okay?
Speaker 2: I've been a top golf not the same, but I
Speaker 2: really can hit them all. Like I feel like that's part.
Speaker 1: Of it because you're athletic, right, you get you know,
Speaker 1: but no golf. But you don't see what do you
Speaker 1: mean it's the greatest port ever.
Speaker 3: For six months, I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: No, I love it. I could go so slow. People like,
Speaker 1: how do you find the time? I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I fucking find the time, Manna, I don't have it.
Speaker 1: And that's what I find.
Speaker 3: That's a crazy amount of time.
Speaker 1: Okay, what I find it early? That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I do it from seven to ten if I have
Speaker 1: to or whatever, and I get it in you know,
Speaker 1: not all the time, but a couple of times a
Speaker 1: week I go what, No, I golf?
Speaker 6: That's crazy, I know, are you okay, I'm crazy. I'm
Speaker 6: like okay, but I love it though, like all my
Speaker 6: guy friends.
Speaker 2: And now please go try one time with your husband.
Speaker 2: And he loves it so much, like I so much.
Speaker 2: But he liked to go to seven am t times.
Speaker 2: That's not mine.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do it because you don't. You're not
Speaker 1: even it doesn't even make you interested, Like what is
Speaker 1: this new thing that he loves so much and you
Speaker 1: don't care?
Speaker 3: You like, go ahead, No, my dad played golf my
Speaker 3: whole life growing up.
Speaker 1: I've never been with him.
Speaker 2: Oh he's taking it up. My son's played like my daughter.
Speaker 1: Your daughter's into it. Now, it's still nothing. They like,
Speaker 1: you can come drive the car. What fun is that?
Speaker 2: For me?
Speaker 1: That's not fun. No, that's not fun. I gotta be
Speaker 1: the DJ and drive the car.
Speaker 3: Maybe one day, give it a try.
Speaker 1: So what is your thing? Because the thing for golf
Speaker 1: for me was like, I don't know, It's like I
Speaker 1: never really had a hobby. I worked so much all
Speaker 1: the time, and then I had, you know, then then
Speaker 1: I was a mom and it was like I didn't
Speaker 1: have a thing that was just because I love to
Speaker 1: do it. It's a real thing to add that to
Speaker 1: your life. I don't know. I just wonder if you
Speaker 1: guys have found anything that's that for you. Some people
Speaker 1: are some people what is your thing? What I mean?
Speaker 2: I do a lot of like mental and body work.
Speaker 2: Like I'm with all the all the all the ships.
Speaker 3: There talking about that's doing a medicine journey.
Speaker 2: I'm going on going to Hoffman doing all the like
Speaker 2: unconventional things retreats, a body retreat in Rome, Like I'm
Speaker 2: just doing all the things like that, like out of
Speaker 2: the box. I don't watch TV, I don't watch movies.
Speaker 2: Like I like a lot of quiet time with myself.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I feel like just making sure my
Speaker 2: body feels good so that my mental remains strong is
Speaker 2: really important. And I do really enjoy being around friends.
Speaker 2: So I'm always curating some a karaoke night, a night
Speaker 2: in the studio, doing this, doing that, Like I love
Speaker 2: a little something like that is out of the box,
Speaker 2: going to the museum, things that we don't traditionally do.
Speaker 2: I'm always curating something. I'm like, hey, let's go to
Speaker 2: the cash go Bain show at Blue Note, Let's go here,
Speaker 2: let's do that.
Speaker 3: Like I'm always.
Speaker 2: Doing little things and the arts is really important for me,
Speaker 2: like being in the art space, volunteering, supporting, like giving back,
Speaker 2: Like so that is important for me.
Speaker 1: What you're doing, Savannah, what you're doing for fun, Phillia Soul.
Speaker 1: I like the gone walk.
Speaker 3: Every like a poet, like a long walk around l A.
Speaker 1: I like to do pilates. You doing those like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know those walks, those hikes, those can o No,
Speaker 1: just walk four miles four miles.
Speaker 2: I like pilates. I also enjoy body work. I like
Speaker 2: all things health and wellness. But I like pottery too.
Speaker 2: If I had the space, pottery, If I had the space,
Speaker 2: I would have a pottery studio.
Speaker 1: Like what like what are you making? Though?
Speaker 2: Like I would to make everything so right now, I
Speaker 2: know how to make a bowl in a mug, but
Speaker 2: I got I could make you a bowl in a
Speaker 2: mug handle?
Speaker 1: No nice, nice, Yeah, I gotta see. I'll send it
Speaker 1: to you, all right, A bowl the bug? What do
Speaker 1: you what is the dream?
Speaker 2: What is the I just want to make that for
Speaker 2: for He was like like myself, and then what is it?
Speaker 1: What is the thing. Why do you like it?
Speaker 2: Like it's relaxing. It's very like, yeah, kind of got
Speaker 2: to lock in to do it.
Speaker 1: It's probably a similar thing because I always say with golf,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm not multi It's the one thing, the
Speaker 1: only thing I do where I'm not multitasking. You can't
Speaker 1: be golfing and on the phone or or on the whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is I'm trying to hit this ball.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear nobody talking. But it's also quiet.
Speaker 1: It's quiet your feet in the grass, you're touching. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's nice. I'm like low key
Speaker 1: trying to recruit y'all. But you.
Speaker 3: Will comes support, you know.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to people. And then I thought maybe
Speaker 1: because Lebron was golfing. He looks like he really loves it,
Speaker 1: like he got the bug bad, right? Is in it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: In it? He just came from Scotland.
Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy golf course in Scotland.
Speaker 1: Is he getting better any better? Yeah? It looks a
Speaker 1: little better on the the swing looks a little bits
Speaker 1: coming along. Yeah, okay, is crazy. He has like a
Speaker 1: golf like pet, like specific golf piece. Shut the Hell up,
Speaker 1: I need that. That's what I need. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: need a golf The fact that I know that his
Speaker 1: swing has gotten better.
Speaker 3: How would you know that?
Speaker 1: Because I golf, so I could tell there's a thing.
Speaker 1: There's as How good are you? No, I'm not good
Speaker 1: at all, but I I mean I'm good for somebody
Speaker 1: who's only been golfing for a little less than four years, right,
Speaker 1: and so people have been golfing their whole life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if somebody who's been golfing three or four years,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. But I'm not going pro every in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 3: So are people going pro?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you're never going to be that good.
Speaker 1: You're always going to be like you know, it's very
Speaker 1: interesting in men. I'm not interesting. All right, Fine, my
Speaker 1: recruiting has failed today. Fuck me? What about motherhood?
Speaker 3: You have two two two boys twenty three and sixteen?
Speaker 1: How old were How old are you when you became one? So?
Speaker 2: I was my oldest is my stepson I adopted and
Speaker 2: he was ten My youngest I had when I was
Speaker 2: twenty nine.
Speaker 1: But are you ready to grow? Grown? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then but still changes, everything changes everything. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I just think you constantly evolve. Like, I think raising
Speaker 2: kids and giving them a life that you didn't have
Speaker 2: comes with pluses and minuses, you know, Like I'm just
Speaker 2: I think that has been the hardest thing for me
Speaker 2: at this age, like not not trying to raise entitled kids,
Speaker 2: but in a lot of ways they are entitled because
Speaker 2: of the life they live, Yeah, and struggling. Like there's
Speaker 2: something about grit that made me like who I am? Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, And I think it's hard to give that
Speaker 2: to kids that are not in a certain type of environment.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's for anybody who's like you're raising
Speaker 1: anybody who's raising children who didn't grow up there's like
Speaker 1: no blueprint for you. No, if I grew up, if
Speaker 1: my kids grew up the same way I did, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't know how my mother did it exactly. But I
Speaker 1: don't know how to do this. And it also, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to give them more, but you want them
Speaker 1: to work, and you want them to have accountability, and
Speaker 1: you want them to care about things. Your kids you
Speaker 1: can't even there's no blueprint for you at all, zero
Speaker 1: right through any of this. So how do you navigate that?
Speaker 1: Because you grew up out like middle class.
Speaker 3: I have a siblings, but I'm the youngest by eleven years,
Speaker 3: so it's like yours mine ours stack.
Speaker 1: The situation.
Speaker 2: Sharing, yeah, sharing, but definitely the baby treated as the baby.
Speaker 2: All boys girls, two boys, two girls, and then me.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess for me, I had, like
Speaker 2: I said before, I had my family as my foundation,
Speaker 2: so that helped a lot being in Ohio and having
Speaker 2: them around to give me or just to help me
Speaker 2: with raising them. Yeah, I was also very young. I
Speaker 2: ain't know what that.
Speaker 1: So, but you know now, I mean you've done.
Speaker 2: It for sure, for sure, and I do think there's
Speaker 2: a certain level of keeping things normal that worked for us.
Speaker 1: How could you even possibly do that?
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the way that Lebron and I
Speaker 2: show up in the house like we did have safety precautions,
Speaker 2: like we had security and things like that, just because
Speaker 2: the world is how the world is. But other than that,
Speaker 2: we moved around like we would be.
Speaker 3: We're just normal. Like I don't really know how to explain.
Speaker 2: I think you do a good job with it, Like
Speaker 2: even with Zori, like every summer she goes back to
Speaker 2: Ohio with my r grandparents, and like I feel like
Speaker 2: there is a grounding that innately they have that is
Speaker 2: a actual gift, you know, like there is a sense
Speaker 2: of normalcy and not everything is for show and not
Speaker 2: everything is like these are all the things I got
Speaker 2: and this is how it looks to the world. I
Speaker 2: think Savannah has been really good at like protecting that.
Speaker 2: And Zori is now eleven, and she has such an
Speaker 2: innocence that's so beautiful. Like I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people sometimes being in the limelight your kids can lose that,
Speaker 2: and she has that.
Speaker 3: Like every time I'll be.
Speaker 1: Like, oh my gosh, she's so cute, a little.
Speaker 2: Like still a little girl, like not growing up before
Speaker 2: her time, not trying to do all the things. She
Speaker 2: has a rule we always argue, but no cell phone.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm tea.
Speaker 2: I'm on the line right now. Teetering a little bit
Speaker 2: with giving it to her when she's twelve, cause she's
Speaker 2: a girl, she's the baby, so she could get it
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 1: Thirteen solid And what is the reasoning behind that? What
Speaker 1: is the thinking?
Speaker 2: I just feel like they're a little bit more understanding
Speaker 2: of the responsibility of having a fu.
Speaker 3: I just think thirteen is a good age.
Speaker 1: Was that scary for you when you when it happened.
Speaker 2: No, because they were able to get phones at thirteen,
Speaker 2: but no social media know anything like.
Speaker 1: That until fifteen fifteen. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 2: So when Brownie first got his social we sat there
Speaker 2: and watched the like following it was crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, see, this is.
Speaker 2: Why he was not ready for that two years ago. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: this is crazy.
Speaker 1: How did he manage it? At fifteen? He was good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was good, And I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: He's kind of like me in that way, like it's
Speaker 2: like you can have it or not, Like it's just
Speaker 2: you know, one of those things.
Speaker 1: So I think personality wise, yeah yeah, yeah. Did what
Speaker 1: about like the fame part of it? How do you
Speaker 1: navigate that, like especially with the kids too, and keeping
Speaker 1: them normal because fame is a weird thing. I mean
Speaker 1: you were young coming in and it's weird. Your experience
Speaker 1: of fame, I'd imagine it's different than it's like you
Speaker 1: didn't choose that. It's not like you, like I want
Speaker 1: to go be an actress, so I want to like
Speaker 1: you just living in your your life and then fame
Speaker 1: is put on put on you. Yeah, was it ever
Speaker 1: any struggles with that or navigating that?
Speaker 2: I guess navigating it just to figure out how I
Speaker 2: wanted to like what my version of fame is.
Speaker 3: Was a process.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. I think us starting in Ohio
Speaker 2: was a blessing because I really feel like that is
Speaker 2: what kept us super rounded in.
Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't even know even Miami.
Speaker 2: Miami was different, like that was the first time that
Speaker 2: either one of us had left home.
Speaker 1: That was an experience I could imagine Miami, I know,
Speaker 1: going on here. But yeah, but you know how stayed
Speaker 1: in toast Does that make you closer when you're like.
Speaker 2: For sure like being able to go to I mean
Speaker 2: the markets that we are in the market that we're
Speaker 2: in now, in the market that we were in in Miami,
Speaker 2: it's like if you don't have each other and standing
Speaker 2: like together through this, like it's going.
Speaker 1: To go to shit, Like this is not gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we did come closer in that time just
Speaker 2: because we knew what it was.
Speaker 1: It's too much attention or too much.
Speaker 2: I think it was all the things, all the things
Speaker 2: so much more access. I mean, we were in Cleveland,
Speaker 2: like much going on in Cleveland. I love, I love
Speaker 2: where I'm from I'm from Accro, But you know, it's
Speaker 2: just slow and it's it's you know, manageable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not that Miami is not so much.
Speaker 2: No, so everywhere, it's everywhere, every every corner you turn.
Speaker 2: So being able to be grounded in our home and
Speaker 2: then in our relationship definitely helped. Yeah. But I think
Speaker 2: for me, Miami is there was a transition that happened
Speaker 2: to me in Miami personally, So I appreciate Miami for
Speaker 2: what it had to offer for me during that time.
Speaker 1: Do you mean like young when you say transition.
Speaker 2: Like going from I believe like a young girl to
Speaker 2: like a young like a young woman to a woman
Speaker 2: in Miami.
Speaker 1: Were you Grays friends at that point? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Already Yeah, yeah, that was I got married there, ye
Speaker 2: proposed to there in Miami. Well, I didn't get married
Speaker 2: in Miami, but like we were living in Miami when
Speaker 2: we got married, got it. So I think those those
Speaker 2: transitions like helped. So it's just always kind of a
Speaker 2: special place for me.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me because told me the story of
Speaker 1: the reader, Can you tell me the story why was
Speaker 1: he involved or at your engagement so involved in your engagement.
Speaker 1: I mean always the thing is happening by happenstance, he
Speaker 1: was involved. Tell me, tell me about this engagement and
Speaker 1: why was there.
Speaker 2: So we were at a New Year's Eve party at
Speaker 2: the Shelbourne or the Short Clubs, one of them, one
Speaker 2: of them hotels in Miami, and it was like this
Speaker 2: whole thing. I was getting dressed with Gabrielle that day
Speaker 2: and I wanted to wear this black dress and this
Speaker 2: hot pink lipstick, and Cab is like, I don't think
Speaker 2: you should wear that lipstick. And I'm like, girl, I've
Speaker 2: been looking at this lipstick.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing this liftick. So she's like, okay, knowing yes,
Speaker 1: she knew yes. So we're at the party.
Speaker 3: Countdown happened, a girl's girl, come the countdown happens.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year. We come back.
Speaker 2: I'm on my phone texting like all my people Happy
Speaker 2: New Year or whatever, and Lebron is behind me, tapping
Speaker 2: me on my shoulder, like just tapping. I'm like, hold up,
Speaker 2: So somebody on this side of me, because like now
Speaker 2: it's like a like a crowd. So somebody says, Savannah,
Speaker 2: turn around, and I turned around and he was on
Speaker 2: his be Oh my god, mind you Miami was it was.
Speaker 1: It was a time. So in that instance, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: So I just busted out crying and he did his
Speaker 2: speech and put the bring on and I say yes,
Speaker 2: and he like, okay, go get yourself together because.
Speaker 1: You're looking crazy.
Speaker 3: I was all.
Speaker 1: The pink. It was awful.
Speaker 3: I wish I never would have Warren that lipstick. I
Speaker 3: should have listened to Gap.
Speaker 2: But I go in the bathroom and the doors are closed,
Speaker 2: like locked. So I'm like, they're like knocking, like can
Speaker 2: we please get in here?
Speaker 1: Please get in here? And Joe opened up the door
Speaker 1: like oh oh oh.
Speaker 2: Because I'm balling like he don't know what to say,
Speaker 2: so they're like, oh, she just got proposed to.
Speaker 1: So he's like, oh, okay, you can come in. I'm sorry, congratulations.
Speaker 1: Does he know who you are or maybe you know?
Speaker 2: But he was just like because I'm like, I look
Speaker 2: like something had happened something.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, is this like a public party, like in
Speaker 1: a club like mad People? It was here. It was
Speaker 1: a curated party, public but public. He thought this was
Speaker 1: a good this was a good time. He thought, at
Speaker 1: this public function, this is where I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: This, this is all these years, because you have been together
Speaker 1: years at that point, right, ten years already, and he thought,
Speaker 1: right now, this club in Miami with this pink lipstick on,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on his knee. So you had no idea, zero,
Speaker 1: no idea. Whoa, but you know what's gonna happen. Usually
Speaker 1: when you get engaged, you kind of know it. You
Speaker 1: didn't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I had no idea. Really, yeah, you got.
Speaker 1: Me and then there was fed Joe in the bathroom
Speaker 1: and you were crying, balling.
Speaker 3: He looked at me, like the hell, like the going
Speaker 3: over here like she just got engaged.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh oh oh, congratulations. And you had already
Speaker 1: had two of them already, you already had two kids.
Speaker 1: So what did that? What does that transition feel like
Speaker 1: in that moment, like this marriage changed anything? Or I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Really you already committed in like a
Speaker 1: family unit. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the only thing that happened is I said
Speaker 2: I wasn't having no more kids until we got married.
Speaker 1: It was it? Do you put that all down? That
Speaker 1: was it? Yeah? The milk you bought the milk already.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it to get.
Speaker 1: That that's amazing. Shout out to Joe that picture.
Speaker 2: I'm glad he does not have. That was crazy. How
Speaker 2: the Gab know in advance the whole plan.
Speaker 1: Lebron has spoken to d D Toe Gab.
Speaker 2: Gab was like my liaison for today, so I kind
Speaker 2: of hung with her all day. The guys had some
Speaker 2: kind of meeting or something practice or something, so I
Speaker 2: was basically with her shopping and doing all the things
Speaker 2: and got to the hotel to get time.
Speaker 1: It was so fun. Mimi was it seems like from
Speaker 1: the outside, you guys had like a I don't know,
Speaker 1: it was Gab and Adrian Adrian and I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels like a good wife crew. It was a
Speaker 1: good wife girl.
Speaker 2: Very different from my experience that I had had before that,
Speaker 2: very different.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's a unique way and that you
Speaker 1: guys have to show up for each other that only
Speaker 1: you guys.
Speaker 2: Understand for sure. Yeah, those girls are great. That was
Speaker 2: that was a part of that transition as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you keep those friendships, the friendships.
Speaker 2: Like that not as close knit just because I mean,
Speaker 2: we didn't have a choice then, but we still definitely chat.
Speaker 2: But life at YEP and everybody's in different places now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm sure those bonds are forever, Yeah, forever.
Speaker 1: What a time? All right, we have a couple segments
Speaker 1: we gotta do. We're gonna do our little secretions of
Speaker 1: voice note and then like the bowl. And so when
Speaker 1: you guys do your podcast, do you do like a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of like prep or do you guys just
Speaker 1: get in the chair. So we're evolving. No prep. You
Speaker 1: don't have cards when you do your pod? No, no,
Speaker 1: we had we try cards.
Speaker 2: One time we tried cards on the Boyfriend episode and
Speaker 2: it didn't works.
Speaker 3: Savannah was like, you did not read your cards.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was just weird and I was nervous.
Speaker 3: No, we're we're prepping now because.
Speaker 1: We always what was the boyfriend episode?
Speaker 2: We did Phantom Kay Sinnett, Lebron and Taco. It was
Speaker 2: so great. I think again another we're gonna do another one.
Speaker 2: But I think just being able to hear from guys
Speaker 2: in their perspective around like dating and like how people
Speaker 2: see things. It's so wild, like when you really sit
Speaker 2: down and talk about it, it's just so many different perspectives.
Speaker 3: And we wanted guys from different age groups.
Speaker 2: So like Kai was on the younger side, Phantom younger side,
Speaker 2: Taco is in his thirties, Lebron obviously forty like so
Speaker 2: it was a lot of different perspectives, Like the younger
Speaker 2: guys talked more about dating, but also being in relationships.
Speaker 2: What you expect in partnership, how people view partnership like
Speaker 2: also wild.
Speaker 3: Interesting the evolution of partnership.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes pods though, too, they challenge you to talk
Speaker 1: about things that what didn't normally talk about, even with
Speaker 1: like your friends. Sometimes other people watch something and she'd
Speaker 1: be like I didn't know. Yes, Like she'll watch my
Speaker 1: pot and she'll hear me talk about something and be like, yes,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that happened. I'm like, yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you mean? Yeah? I wondered, like, if you're interviewing
Speaker 1: your husband, does he say something that you're like absolutely
Speaker 1: like running back? Yeah, I was like, you say, what
Speaker 1: did he say on the pod? That's surprised you? What's
Speaker 1: the feel? I mean, it's a clip now that's.
Speaker 2: Going here going viral about him saying where he is
Speaker 2: now at forty, he couldn't have a significant other that
Speaker 2: when he came home was on the couch and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that that was also news to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but also on the couch is not they clipped it up.
Speaker 3: That's the thing about like.
Speaker 2: He was talking about evolving and where where you are
Speaker 2: in life, but like what does that even mean if
Speaker 2: someone's a mom, No one is on the couch. But
Speaker 2: also then that's the thing, that's how they took it,
Speaker 2: like Y's not working, Yeah, not working, not doing anything.
Speaker 2: But it's so crazy, like the opinions, and I don't
Speaker 2: I'm again don't pay a lot of things in his mind.
Speaker 1: So like she was like, did you see the e clip?
Speaker 1: I looked at it.
Speaker 2: I was like, and then the comments are crazy and
Speaker 2: it's so interesting, like we're just sitting around and doing shit,
Speaker 2: Like are you out of your fucking mind? Like that's
Speaker 2: the thing like, because somebody may be more reserved, is
Speaker 2: perceived as you're not doing anything, which is crazy to
Speaker 2: me because the people that are showing everything a lot
Speaker 2: of times we're not doing.
Speaker 1: What he MEANU, I didn't see the whole clip, but
Speaker 1: did you mean like lazy somebody who was lazy or
Speaker 1: somebody basically I mean he's up super early, like he
Speaker 1: well his work ethic is next level and I can't
Speaker 1: even unmatched.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, but again it's he.
Speaker 1: Has to be inspiring to wayes even somebody work with
Speaker 1: him or even as his wife, like watching somebody's work
Speaker 1: ethics very much so, but never get that before the
Speaker 1: sun comes up, You're not doing that. You're not that
Speaker 1: inspired me.
Speaker 2: I'm up at the crack of dawn. Like minute, I
Speaker 2: love the morning, love love. She like, I admire it.
Speaker 2: I think it's amazing. You get a lot done, you
Speaker 2: use all of your hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2: She's like, don't call me, I'll be right here, Yes,
Speaker 2: right here, don't call me, but also doesn't feel bad
Speaker 2: about that, like she lives in her truth and you
Speaker 2: can live in your truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I think with this social media makes it everything
Speaker 2: perceived in a certain type of way and allows you
Speaker 2: to perceive it how you wanted to be able to
Speaker 2: make your own notion about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's.
Speaker 3: A lot of misconceptions about stay at home mom's.
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Speaker 4: Hi, Savannah and April. My question for y'all is when
Speaker 4: do you tell your homegirl that you saw her man
Speaker 4: without her outside.
Speaker 1: She's been dating this guy for like.
Speaker 4: Over a year, and I went to dinner and I
Speaker 4: saw him on what could have been a double date.
Speaker 4: It was him, another guy and two women. I literally
Speaker 4: was walking by and saw them. Now, I don't like
Speaker 4: to give myself a mess. So do you think I
Speaker 4: should tell her or just kind of let the universe
Speaker 4: figure it out.
Speaker 1: I have this, I have an answer to this question also,
Speaker 1: But I'm curious to what you guys, what I know?
Speaker 1: I have this conversation with friends. This is a debate.
Speaker 2: Actually you're getting this a video a snap before I
Speaker 2: leave the run, and I'm liable to walk to the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, use me, sir, are you okay?
Speaker 2: I'm not going to address it because you know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell my friend. You know I'm gonna tell my friend.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna roll up on you, like, hey, how
Speaker 2: you doing?
Speaker 1: Hey guys, are y'all okay? Good to see you?
Speaker 3: Very nice and pleasant, the smilest a little bit more annoyed.
Speaker 3: But you're in front maybe like are you serious?
Speaker 1: What's happening? Are you okay? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Are you see?
Speaker 2: That's the difference between having no associates. I got all
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: Level of friends.
Speaker 2: We rided what is you doing? Sir, this is messy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's happening?
Speaker 1: She You're gonna cook.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna double date.
Speaker 1: This is interesting because I've had this conversation with my
Speaker 1: little crew of girls, and most of us feel the
Speaker 1: same way. It's two or three, then there's one of us,
Speaker 1: and it drives me nuts because we get into this argument.
Speaker 1: But she's like, her experience is that nine times out
Speaker 1: of ten say they're gonna stay. And now you're the
Speaker 1: friend who done inserted yourself into a problem in your
Speaker 1: friend's situation. Or the other part of it is that
Speaker 1: sometimes the friend knows what who she's with, and so
Speaker 1: as a friend, why are you going? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So she feels like that, so she might
Speaker 1: minds her business. She doesn't say it couldn't be my friend.
Speaker 1: She couldn't be your friend. You say that she cut
Speaker 1: her off. She's really good, and many other ways.
Speaker 3: It's very nice. It's good for you, I'm very happy
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: I'm good my friend. No, I'm not seeing how to
Speaker 1: cut her off. It's good for you.
Speaker 3: It does not work for me.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 2: You see some stuff there it's not kosher, and you
Speaker 2: don't feel to say something and that is where her
Speaker 2: her her feeling comes from, her feeling like she's going
Speaker 2: to be excluded if she gives her honest opinion.
Speaker 3: Y'all not friends. That's how I feel, like what I
Speaker 3: saw your.
Speaker 2: Man out like, no, I'm sorry, I just I feel
Speaker 2: convicted about it because I think that's crazy that you know,
Speaker 2: and what if one.
Speaker 1: Day we're out from the restaurant.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm texting, like the fuck and then I'm
Speaker 2: saying something. Then I'm walking out the restaurant like bitch.
Speaker 2: I went up to the table. I told that, like,
Speaker 2: I'm running it down. I'm the last person you want
Speaker 2: to see. So you are not confrontational though I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna roll up and make a scene. He's calling you, and.
Speaker 1: She's calling the friend the restaurant, immediate.
Speaker 2: Text whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna we were
Speaker 2: about that life.
Speaker 1: I love that for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like that is the right way
Speaker 2: to be with friends, Like why not disclosed?
Speaker 3: I agree, well, and it's okay if you stay.
Speaker 1: No, No, I agree, But I do think I'm a
Speaker 1: little different that. I do think there are levels of
Speaker 1: friends because I have a lot of people that I know,
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying. I know y'all, but we're not. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: you have either all the way friends or we're all nothing.
Speaker 3: You know everything about me, or you'll know nothing.
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 2: Like I'm good, there's no no how can you show
Speaker 2: up half yourself.
Speaker 1: It's like that you just meet people along the way
Speaker 1: and you really like them and you you have a
Speaker 1: rappoort and you see them and it's cool and you've
Speaker 1: hung out a few times. And I'm not telling that
Speaker 1: person about her business with her man and nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm not hanging out a few times with nobody. I
Speaker 2: don't really kind of know you're not hanging out of.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, what's.
Speaker 2: Happening over there? I'm not coming. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be there, Like I'm just not doing it. It's no
Speaker 2: in between for me.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. There's no way ask.
Speaker 3: Her believe, please believe, please really believe it.
Speaker 1: No middle, no acquaintances people, just.
Speaker 2: Because it's just also like I'm not for everybody, just
Speaker 2: like you're not supposed to be for everybody. Everybody's not
Speaker 2: for everybody. Everybody doesn't have to like you. So like
Speaker 2: I'm not going to censor myself in a situation where
Speaker 2: and I see a.
Speaker 3: Lot, I'm around a lot, I'm privy to a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm a volt.
Speaker 2: So I need to be in a place where I
Speaker 2: feel like I can actually have real conversation that feeds
Speaker 2: me and I feed you, and I can be my
Speaker 2: real self. I don't want to be somewhere guessing. If
Speaker 2: I could say this, and now you talk about you
Speaker 2: don't text it, your friend, your friend coming back, girl, goodbye.
Speaker 2: I ain't got no time for me. I just I'm
Speaker 2: too busy. So like censoring myself in certain rooms, if
Speaker 2: I'm not talking, that means I don't know nobody there,
Speaker 2: and I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm not the same. I'm not that harsh.
Speaker 2: I allow, like if a connection is meant to happen,
Speaker 2: I allowed that. He was like, I've recently made really
Speaker 2: great friends, really just because I was a little more
Speaker 2: open open.
Speaker 1: She's jolly well, she also was so guarded for so long. Yes,
Speaker 1: so now you probably trust yourself a little bit more, right,
Speaker 1: a lot more. Yeah. So they're red flags for people
Speaker 1: who we need to not let in the circle. Because
Speaker 1: we talked about red flags with dating or relationships, Yes,
Speaker 1: but what about friend red flags? Are their friendship red
Speaker 1: red flags.
Speaker 2: I think you can engage with people that are like fans.
Speaker 2: Oh I can't stand it. Oh my god, I'm no,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, oh I.
Speaker 1: Can't even So another red flag for you would be
Speaker 1: like if they feel like they wouldn't tell you if
Speaker 1: they saw your man, that would be a flag for you.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's a character flag to me.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: That's like going back to transparency on radical honesty. Are
Speaker 2: you d honest or do you want to hold some
Speaker 2: of the information. The most eloquent way of lying is
Speaker 2: not saying anything when people be like, oh, I ain't
Speaker 2: say nothing, Okay, I was sitting there the whole time
Speaker 2: at the dinner table knowing this man's in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Like I just think that that is formal. Ok. It's
Speaker 1: so interesting. You made me think about myself now because
Speaker 1: I be minding my business. Sometimes I mind my business too,
Speaker 1: but don't let me hear you know with my friends,
Speaker 1: I mind my business because I'm gonna see you through
Speaker 1: this and I'll wait till you get to the other side.
Speaker 1: But it's like a level of how much I want
Speaker 1: to interject with what I think I saw, what I saw,
Speaker 1: what I feel about what I saw.
Speaker 2: When you know all that already, I feel like it
Speaker 2: just is Yeah, I don't think it's inserting yourself. You
Speaker 2: can still support your friend and be like, listen, I
Speaker 2: don't like how this made you feel, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: support you. I feel like I can talk like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not like judge on it.
Speaker 2: But when it starts going over the line. We were
Speaker 2: talking about this yesterday. I was like, if you were
Speaker 2: walking down the street in the car last night at
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock.
Speaker 1: That's what I asked.
Speaker 2: Quiz Yes, she gave you a quizit, yes, yes, test
Speaker 2: my morals. I said, I'm sleepy and we're driving down
Speaker 2: the street and we saw a lady getting beat up.
Speaker 1: What would you do? Right?
Speaker 2: And so she was like what I was like, if
Speaker 2: we saw somebody beating up, what would you do?
Speaker 3: She was like, well, I would be like.
Speaker 2: Like trying to get what if he was really beating her?
Speaker 3: She like, I'm gonna call the cops. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I think I may have to jump in, like.
Speaker 1: You know you can't and I can't help you.
Speaker 2: But then then she gave her a video. ILL say,
Speaker 2: all right, right, I'm ana call the cops. I'm a
Speaker 2: corner cops. I'm gonna stay there. I ain't gonna leave
Speaker 2: her because she's getting beaten up. But to me, I
Speaker 2: think it is a morality, cause like it's it's the
Speaker 2: this or that on how you view things, and it
Speaker 2: can be multiple opinions on how people decide to show up.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make them a bad person though, just different,
Speaker 2: just different. But I know what kind of friend that want.
Speaker 1: So what were you gonna do? You're gonna stay and
Speaker 1: fight At first, I was gonna fight. She was gonna
Speaker 1: fight down, and nobody there to help either one of us.
Speaker 2: Know, kill that man, that's why everybody need a friend.
Speaker 1: Like man, I was like, I.
Speaker 5: Was gonna kill his feeling, Well, we were gonna die,
Speaker 5: like like we.
Speaker 1: Were like, and this is somebody that you don't even know, right,
Speaker 1: It was just a what if in your mind, like
Speaker 1: this is a stranger street.
Speaker 3: So she's like, we don't even know her.
Speaker 2: I was like, I know, but it's just wrong, like
Speaker 2: that man, gonna beating both for so you because now
Speaker 2: this is where it goes, because now if she jump
Speaker 2: in and I gotta jump in, don't jump in.
Speaker 1: That you guys have a plan in the event plan
Speaker 1: don't jump in because she wants to jump in. Call
Speaker 1: the cops. Ready, We're ready. I think I would call
Speaker 1: the cops and I would try to create some type
Speaker 1: of diversion.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like, yeah, maybe I would throw said.
Speaker 1: Literally said I would throw something.
Speaker 2: But I think it's like a morality. It doesn't you
Speaker 2: know how you how would you deal with certain things?
Speaker 1: That's a good one. What else?
Speaker 3: I was like, girl, what she was like around the
Speaker 3: house talking about we rid in the card? But I
Speaker 3: saw somebody walk out.
Speaker 1: Said what is She's the one that made you do
Speaker 1: this other quiz too that you did at the house, right, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I want to know.
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
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Speaker 1: each one of you. The best kind of friend is
Speaker 1: someone who is patient with you. Mm hmmm, So is
Speaker 1: this bold for them? Specifically? Oh?
Speaker 3: Can I know another one?
Speaker 1: Yes? All right? Oh no, No, she didn't like that.
Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about that a lot.
Speaker 2: Anyway, lately, I've been reminding myself that it's okay to
Speaker 2: be big m.
Speaker 1: Did you not feel like I feel like your personality
Speaker 1: lends to that answered you started that whole podcast here.
Speaker 3: No, I think I came up in it.
Speaker 2: I came up in an industry where being behind the
Speaker 2: scenes was rewarded, especially as a female, and just like
Speaker 2: making it all happen was how I was celebrated. And
Speaker 2: I think being in front of the camera and thinking
Speaker 2: about all the things that we're building and like owning
Speaker 2: that has been a real pivot for me personally. And
Speaker 2: I think even though going back to what people see
Speaker 2: and what they believe. Like, I am very confident in
Speaker 2: who I am, like innately, I've always been like that
Speaker 2: since I was small, But I think being big has
Speaker 2: another type of responsibility that I've kind of like like
Speaker 2: for Up until this point, we were saying the pod
Speaker 2: was like a high, it's a hobby.
Speaker 1: Like you didn't want to claim it like.
Speaker 2: No, because I think when you work hard and you've
Speaker 2: been raised to work hard, I think more responsibility feels
Speaker 2: like like it doesn't have to feel like that if
Speaker 2: you have the right team around you and the right
Speaker 2: people around you. And I think we're finally at a
Speaker 2: point where we feel like we're supported in that way.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you feel like that too. You that's probably
Speaker 1: why you guys connect so much in business aside from friendship. Yes,
Speaker 1: you both kind of like blossoming into this elevated version
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're growing into something that we have
Speaker 2: not yet imagined.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that too. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think that. I don't know. I feel like at every
Speaker 1: stage or every age, like always trying to push ourselves
Speaker 1: to Yeah, there's always another level, right, there's always a
Speaker 1: level that But.
Speaker 2: I think as a young girl, you think you get married,
Speaker 2: you have a family, you pick a career, and it's
Speaker 2: like WHOA, I made it, and then you're like, on
Speaker 2: a second, this shit's about to change again and again
Speaker 2: and again. And I think that that is something young
Speaker 2: women should know, Like if you learn how to pivot early,
Speaker 2: it won't feel so debilitating. M Like, if you could
Speaker 2: pivot quicker and not be so stuck on like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have this career, I'm gonna marry this man. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be married by this time. I'm gonna have a
Speaker 2: baby here. Like it doesn't work like that, Like, but
Speaker 2: I think when we were coming up, it was like
Speaker 2: that was what you did, you know, And now young
Speaker 2: women are doing things differently and really embracing that and
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to look how you imagine?
Speaker 1: H Do you still have those thoughts? So yoursel like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too much in your business.
Speaker 1: You're single or yes? Single? Mmm? Are you in the
Speaker 1: are you out here looking around? I'm not looking around?
Speaker 3: No, I would like to I'm trying.
Speaker 1: She don't try to be a matchmaker over here. You
Speaker 1: probably had no friends. That would be a good no.
Speaker 2: No, no, No, I think I think we all run
Speaker 2: in a very small circle.
Speaker 3: Ye, like and it have been I think, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm open to it, but I think it is a
Speaker 2: level of like, you know, that protection factor that I
Speaker 2: operate in and trying to be open in one area
Speaker 2: but also being mindful of letting people in and the
Speaker 2: right people.
Speaker 3: So are we supposed to pick it out?
Speaker 1: She wanted to picked you pick? Did you did it?
Speaker 1: All right? Go to another one? Fine? One?
Speaker 2: We both answering this, all right, I love that. Don't
Speaker 2: be scared, trust me, Okay, all right? First one value
Speaker 2: you think we're losing as a society.
Speaker 1: What you have to say? Yeah, say it? I feel
Speaker 1: like I do. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Honesty mm hmm. I really think we are missing honesty.
Speaker 2: Like I think a lot of times people are fearful
Speaker 2: of being honest about what they're fearful of. And I
Speaker 2: just think people are shy away a lot of times
Speaker 2: from honesty of like hurting people's feelings or being true
Speaker 2: to themselves or doing what the world wants them to
Speaker 2: do and not being their real self, and like, just
Speaker 2: do you and just be honest. And I wish people
Speaker 2: would get it together and Instagram is not real. People
Speaker 2: be swearing. I'm like, are you people okay? This is
Speaker 2: like a sham.
Speaker 1: It's one piece of It's like one sliver of a narrative.
Speaker 2: And it's the most inflated narrative, Like you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And then when you show your real self,
Speaker 2: the world wants to judge. But like if people would
Speaker 2: just vaccine instead of worrying about somebody priding on that
Speaker 2: Internet or whatever, and focus on yourself.
Speaker 1: Wishing one word, come on, give it to mine.
Speaker 2: Was gonna be authenticity, Like even as a business owner
Speaker 2: now and understanding the importance of like doing what is
Speaker 2: authentically like solid to you, I don't. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people do things cause they feel like they
Speaker 2: have to, and I think that goes right back to honesty.
Speaker 3: But I think authenticity is a value that be you
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 1: I'm curious. This is one of my IRL questions to hear.
Speaker 1: I like this for you because you know, we always
Speaker 1: ask like what are you most proud of, like in
Speaker 1: your career or as a mom, what are you most
Speaker 1: proud of about yourself and what you've been able to doing.
Speaker 2: Honestly, the biggest compliment that I get is when people
Speaker 2: come to me and tell me how great my kids are, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm so proud of the people that they are and
Speaker 2: who they've become and the way that they've been able
Speaker 2: to handle.
Speaker 3: Everything.
Speaker 2: Like we've been through some things, and I just think
Speaker 2: that they have. I mean, they've done an amazing job
Speaker 2: with all of it given the circumstance.
Speaker 3: So I'm most proud of who I've.
Speaker 1: Been able to.
Speaker 2: Support in their growth and just becoming who they are
Speaker 2: as young men and now a little lady.
Speaker 1: So you're very, very proud of that. You're a good mom, great,
Speaker 1: killing it the best, the best mom. What about as
Speaker 1: a wife, especially such a high profile wife, Like what
Speaker 1: are you most proud of in that space?
Speaker 2: Just being able to and I know this might sound crazy,
Speaker 2: but being able to understand the situation for what it
Speaker 2: is as far as how I showed up being a
Speaker 2: support system to him, Like I was totally okay with
Speaker 2: the way that things have panned out up until this point,
Speaker 2: being sportive to him, being able to be there for him,
Speaker 2: being able to pick him up when he's not feeling good,
Speaker 2: Like I was okay with being in the background and
Speaker 2: doing those things. So that he was able to do
Speaker 2: exactly what he wanted to do in that space. So there,
Speaker 2: I'm most proud of that, as far as being a
Speaker 2: wife and his wife.
Speaker 1: And support system. What about this pod and what you're creating?
Speaker 1: What are you guys most proud of about this, this business? This?
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm most proud of stepping into what
Speaker 2: we have been shying away from, you know, and really
Speaker 2: owning it, and I think also being authentically ourselves. Like
Speaker 2: I think there is a lot of misconceptions about being
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, building something, being in friendship with each other.
Speaker 2: So I think I'm most proud of just being able
Speaker 2: to own it for once, and also proud to put
Speaker 2: a team around us that is helping us to do it,
Speaker 2: which allows us to be more visionary in building it,
Speaker 2: which is exciting, and also commit to the pod and
Speaker 2: commit to using our voices and commit to being comfortable
Speaker 2: with being uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I just want to go through my last cards and
Speaker 1: then we're done, and maybe I'm going to ask you
Speaker 1: my one favorite question in the ball for both. Okay,
Speaker 1: you probably have probably know that one. Okay, we've been
Speaker 1: talking a lot about the like the inner workings of
Speaker 1: your friendship and this like space that you created, but
Speaker 1: you also both live in a very big space.
Speaker 3: Yes, very big.
Speaker 1: You didn't you do? You did Drake's thirtieth birthday party?
Speaker 1: You plan that for him? Yes, that's a big that's
Speaker 1: a big, high profile, lots of a lot of moments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how does that even happen? Or did you work for
Speaker 1: Drake or you know, I don't work for Jake.
Speaker 3: I never worked for Drake.
Speaker 1: You never worked for Drake? And you do the thirtieth Well.
Speaker 3: He hired my agency, got it?
Speaker 1: So I think, how does I go to see call? No,
Speaker 1: he doesn't call.
Speaker 3: Future calls, Future calls, Future is grace, Future is the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Future Drake and I've been doing a couple of
Speaker 2: things with them. A lot of people don't know context,
Speaker 2: But I own a creative agency. It does experiential and
Speaker 2: creative campaigns for brands. So it started because we did
Speaker 2: it was called two Kings.
Speaker 3: It was Drake and Lebron at.
Speaker 2: All Star in Toronto and we did something called the
Speaker 2: House of Tings with beats.
Speaker 1: It was oh my God. And we transformed all.
Speaker 3: Of these rooms into like little immersive rooms.
Speaker 2: So we had trapped karaoke We had a room with
Speaker 2: an owl that opened up like a live owl.
Speaker 3: We had David Blaine in a room we.
Speaker 1: Got we had enough of them money.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was like all these little rooms and you
Speaker 2: went into this like house of tings and it was crazy.
Speaker 3: It was freezing cold in Toronto.
Speaker 2: So it started there and then over time I just
Speaker 2: built a relationship with future and team and they were amazing.
Speaker 2: They were amazing and I just did his thirty if.
Speaker 2: They called and was like can you do it? It's
Speaker 2: going to be in l A.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I got it, And.
Speaker 2: I mean it feels like years ago, I mean thirty
Speaker 2: nine something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, but it was awesome. What about your big
Speaker 1: wow moments? First of all, the mean gala is a
Speaker 1: wow moments for you? What is that? What is that experience?
Speaker 1: Like stressful?
Speaker 2: It was so much prep and just like it was
Speaker 2: my first time, so it was making sure I got
Speaker 2: it right.
Speaker 1: It was a pressure a little bit. That's a big carpet.
Speaker 1: That's a big carpet, A big carpet. What is the prep?
Speaker 1: What is the what is what goes into this?
Speaker 2: Just a just a look the look it's the most like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the look it came together.
Speaker 1: Body of look though, you have a couple of like
Speaker 1: iconic look moments, we should flash those as we're mentioning
Speaker 1: that right now. Just let the people do that do that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was great.
Speaker 3: The theme with being I can't Taylor, I can't think
Speaker 3: of the thing.
Speaker 1: Oh the theme, Yeah, it was like.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And then it was tailor to Perfection or
Speaker 2: something like that. So the process of trying to find
Speaker 2: a designer for that was kind of like like what
Speaker 2: do I do? And then I wanted to make sure
Speaker 2: I had a black designer. So I'm like, well, I
Speaker 2: wonder if Pidneva would do it.
Speaker 1: And she did it. She killed it.
Speaker 3: We had a great time. It was so much fun
Speaker 3: working with her and her team.
Speaker 1: Or events like that. Fun though you always think like
Speaker 1: is it really fun when you get there?
Speaker 3: So I was actually so I was okay.
Speaker 2: I was there because I was supposed to be there,
Speaker 2: but I was a plus one because Lebron was a chair.
Speaker 2: He was a co chair for that particular Matt and
Speaker 2: he couldn't make it because they were in the postseason.
Speaker 2: So I still went in support to be there for him.
Speaker 1: But also because she was supposed to because I was
Speaker 1: supposed to.
Speaker 2: But it is a room and like I said, like
Speaker 2: I don't typically like deal in like.
Speaker 3: I guess rooms like that, Like that's just not my
Speaker 3: comfort zone.
Speaker 1: And if you do, you're usually with your husband.
Speaker 2: With my husband, or with a friend or just somebody
Speaker 2: as an ally. You know, they don't play that like
Speaker 2: nobody you're taking yourself. So it was just interesting. I
Speaker 2: actually sat with Debbie Allen, and I had met her
Speaker 2: in La my daughter went to her dance academy, and
Speaker 2: so I just found an ally in her and her.
Speaker 1: Husband and I sat there and talked to them. So
Speaker 1: it was great.
Speaker 2: And Tyler Perry was my seat mate, yeah.
Speaker 1: And chatted with him.
Speaker 2: I was cool, told him how much I love all
Speaker 2: of his movies, And it was a great experience. My
Speaker 2: dress was so heavy, though, my hips were so sorely
Speaker 2: because I don't know if people know, but when you walk,
Speaker 2: the carpet is long, and there're stairs on the carpet,
Speaker 2: so you gotta get up those stairs. But once you
Speaker 2: get in the museum, there's like four more flights of
Speaker 2: stairs and a country mile to get to where the actual.
Speaker 1: And this dress is like forty pounds. I was.
Speaker 3: I was done.
Speaker 1: I was good, but I did it, and you look gorgeous.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Those moments must feel like because you don't do that
Speaker 1: a lot, right, you know, do the stuff like that.
Speaker 1: What does that feel like for you? Because I don't know,
Speaker 1: it almost feels like from the outside looking at like
Speaker 1: watching you, it's like, look so bad. Yeah, old light.
Speaker 1: You don't know really like in your own light and
Speaker 1: your own moment. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I was excited to be there, but just like kind
Speaker 2: of a little bit in shock, like, damn, I'm actually
Speaker 2: on the med carpet and by myself. This is crazy.
Speaker 2: This exactly is crazy. Shot Like, yeah, this is crazy.
Speaker 2: The whole time I was there, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Looking at Anna went to table, like what you at
Speaker 1: Anna's table? Yes? Yeah, did she comment? Did she compliment
Speaker 1: your dress? Yes? Oh she did? I did right, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like she's the type said anything.
Speaker 3: That joint She didn't time.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great, We're gonna see more of that. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're like, do you feel like you're blossoming
Speaker 1: into another kind of phase of your life? So it's
Speaker 1: scary exciting.
Speaker 2: It's exciting, But I think I would like to handle
Speaker 2: the amount of it because I know sometimes any situations
Speaker 2: that goes from zero to one hundred and I would
Speaker 2: like to like just pace myself a little bit, but
Speaker 2: definitely excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, slow progression, right, yeah, well yeah, yeah, you got
Speaker 1: her on your side. So she's gonna she's gonna fight
Speaker 1: the lady in the street field. She's gonna she's gonna
Speaker 1: tell you the truth. She's gonna not talk to anybody
Speaker 1: who don't. It's a little friend. We didn't talk about
Speaker 1: spirituality much or anything like that in this conversation. But
Speaker 1: my final question, which is in the bult is my
Speaker 1: favorite question is a little bit so connected to you know,
Speaker 1: what our higher purposes and our higher connection is. So
Speaker 1: the question of the ball that's my favorite is if
Speaker 1: God would have text you right now, what would it say.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't really like text, so you will tell
Speaker 2: God not to text, Like God can keep short.
Speaker 1: I don't have to respond to that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll have to respond to God's text.
Speaker 1: She doesn't like that, You're a terrible text. I like text.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, be on my own time. But
Speaker 2: the response with God, get me done, you're fired. But
Speaker 2: what would it say if you've got a text from
Speaker 2: him today.
Speaker 1: What would it say? I think mine today would say
Speaker 1: you need some rest? Mm hmmm, I think today that's
Speaker 1: what mine would say.
Speaker 3: I think mine would say, you're exactly where you're supposed
Speaker 3: to be. That's good, I think mine would say, and
Speaker 3: you with a ride?
Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty good that Angie. Oh, we didn't
Speaker 1: do the game?
Speaker 3: Okay, come on, you want to do it?
Speaker 1: Okay? So the pot is called Everybody's crazy? This is
Speaker 1: the who is crazier of the two of you? You
Speaker 1: love this already? Who is crazier? Just in general? You
Speaker 1: are the crazier? Who is crazier when it comes to
Speaker 1: being protective of the people they love me? Really? Why
Speaker 1: do I feel like you're gonna be the crazier in
Speaker 1: all of these circumstances? Oh? For god? Who is crazier
Speaker 1: when it comes to holding a grudge? Huh? Dead to me? Forever? Cooked?
Speaker 1: How much does it take to be in that box?
Speaker 1: A minute? Yeah? I don't have a time. You get there,
Speaker 1: but when you go, you ain't coming back forever? Who
Speaker 1: is crazier when it comes to being competitive? Do you
Speaker 1: really think I'm not competitive? I? Thank you? Maybe? Neck
Speaker 1: and neck? Do you play games or do anything. No,
Speaker 1: she don't play no games. You don't just like game
Speaker 1: night or nothing? Or no she does not really or
Speaker 1: even like karaoke. That's a good answer. Who is crazier
Speaker 1: when it comes to being stubborn? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I would say me, yeah, you take Yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna think me.
Speaker 1: You are who you are? Mm hmmm. Crazier during an argument.
Speaker 2: Me, oh know that this tongue is lethal, slicing you
Speaker 2: to pieces. That's why I want to go there. I
Speaker 2: just say, God bless because if I go there, We're
Speaker 2: going to hell?
Speaker 1: What's crazier when it comes to online shopping or shopping? Her? Shopping?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 3: Online shopping her?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3: I like I r L. I like an I r L.
Speaker 1: You got boxes? What on boxes and delivery?
Speaker 3: What ship I'm never going to use?
Speaker 1: What's something crazy that you just that you've bought recently online?
Speaker 2: A desk that I could put on top of my
Speaker 2: desk so I could stand up while I'm at my desk.
Speaker 2: What it's like a desk, Like an adjustable desk that
Speaker 2: goes on the top of the desk.
Speaker 1: I don't have to sit at my desk. You have
Speaker 1: to put it together? Does it require together? Oh? It
Speaker 1: came together, delivered and have you used it? You did? It?
Speaker 1: Be half love that for you. I've been really good lately,
Speaker 1: but there was a period I was ordering just wild
Speaker 1: sh like or so. Instagram gets me to.
Speaker 2: Buy Instagram shot by buy stuff on Instagram.
Speaker 1: It's so easy. What is this? Because it's all line
Speaker 1: of looks cute and then it comes.
Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm not playing instead, No more bathing suits,
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: Amazon. What. No, that's craziness. I have one from Instagram.
Speaker 1: It's worse the like butt pads in it. You didn't
Speaker 1: expect those to be there? What the fuck is this? Okay?
Speaker 1: Who's crazy when it comes to protecting their peace?
Speaker 2: I think that's both of us, both of us. But
Speaker 2: Savannah is better at boundaries. We both can kind of
Speaker 2: disappear in our own way, but she's better at what. Yes,
Speaker 2: a lot of quiet time for both of us.
Speaker 1: Who's giving the best gifts? Me? Hm? I didn't. Oh?
Speaker 1: I didn't. Oh what? Oh?
Speaker 2: Because she used to talk about me so bad because
Speaker 2: I didn't give. I didn't give gifts. I love gifts,
Speaker 2: you do, Yes, you didn't give gifts at all?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: She even know gifts. It was crazy. Now she's redeeming
Speaker 2: herself because I couldn't gift.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's probably because you have a lot of things
Speaker 1: and so you're like things. Yeah, I love a gift, like,
Speaker 1: love it to me too. I will stay I love it.
Speaker 1: I will stay at the you know in the parties
Speaker 1: when they give gift bags. I don't want that ship,
Speaker 1: but I still want it. Oh, what was the redeeming gift? Yes,
Speaker 1: you said she'd been redeeming herself. Like, what's a lot
Speaker 1: of good gifts? What's a good it's your favorite gift
Speaker 1: that I got you? Oh?
Speaker 3: She bought me this Judith Lieberman bag?
Speaker 1: What is your favorite? That's one of my favorite? What
Speaker 1: is it in a bag? Is it it's a special
Speaker 1: because it was my shortcake? Right? That was? I got
Speaker 1: you to shortcake? No, Marnie got me. Okay, you got
Speaker 1: me the French fries. Oh got you the French fries.
Speaker 1: The French fries. She's really happy, she really loves it.
Speaker 1: I do. Is she a good gift giver? Yoh? No,
Speaker 1: for my was it thirty five? Not thirty fIF?
Speaker 3: So we go we like to go to the ms
Speaker 3: when we go shopping.
Speaker 2: Around the world and I have been wanting these plates
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm get the plates. I buy one
Speaker 2: by two okay whatever, she finished my collection?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, who's knowing the most tea? Who's crazy when
Speaker 1: it comes to knowing the most tea?
Speaker 4: Me?
Speaker 3: Hm, you know the tea, all of it, This is
Speaker 3: all of it. That's why I said, don't be out No.
Speaker 1: And the last one who is crazier about protecting this friendship?
Speaker 2: Both of us, both of us, I think we don't,
Speaker 2: you know. I think you see a lot of like
Speaker 2: whether it's female business partners, female groups, female duos.
Speaker 3: There's not a lot you know.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people allow emotion, ego, money,
Speaker 2: success to get in the way of like who they are.
Speaker 2: And I think for us, we want to be the
Speaker 2: ones that someone's like, oh they did it, and we
Speaker 2: want young women to see that, and we want Zori
Speaker 2: to see that and see my kids see it, and
Speaker 2: you know, and also continuing to support women like I
Speaker 2: think it's a lot of like I'll be honest, like
Speaker 2: fake black girl magic and fake like girl tribe. The
Speaker 2: shit is fake. Like you go places and people are like,
Speaker 2: you know, so like really.
Speaker 1: Being thoughtful format.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so I think really being thoughtful around that
Speaker 2: and continuing to like be amongst women like yourself, like
Speaker 2: other women that we admire, And it's okay to admire
Speaker 2: somebody like right, that's a difference, Like you can admire
Speaker 2: somebody and not be a fan and not be weird,
Speaker 2: like that's where you lose me. But you can admire
Speaker 2: somebody but also admire somebody and want to be you.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people admire people and want to
Speaker 2: be them.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be me. Well, anybody who wants
Speaker 1: to be you is not going to be a good friend, correct.
Speaker 2: And I think just like you can admire somebody and
Speaker 2: admire the essence of them, Like me and Savannah are
Speaker 2: not the same type of mom.
Speaker 3: Really, No, she's a way better mom.
Speaker 2: She's a better mom in a different type of way.
Speaker 2: I feel like, oh, I'm militant.
Speaker 1: She is a good mom.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm a good mom, but it's only me.
Speaker 2: It's different when someone has a dad, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. Like my boys haven't had their dad around
Speaker 2: since they were like three and ten. So I have
Speaker 2: to be the nurturer, but I also have to be
Speaker 2: the discipline area. So it's a level of grace that's
Speaker 2: given in that that I've come to terms with. So
Speaker 2: there's something that she can give that. Like my son
Speaker 2: is quick to call her when I say no, my youngest,
Speaker 2: what ask Savannah. She's more lenient, Like she'd like, girl,
Speaker 2: just la him stay out extra hours?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll be like, how did you get in our house?
Speaker 2: Like there's always a more, you know, because there is
Speaker 2: no ying and yang yeah, and that's yeah, And I
Speaker 2: think that is a different that's a different dynamic.
Speaker 3: So it is a little bit more. And I'm raising boys.
Speaker 1: It's different. I don't know that better though.
Speaker 2: Better for I think in the way you are able
Speaker 2: to show up, you know. And I would desire that
Speaker 2: for my kids too.
Speaker 1: They love me.
Speaker 2: But my son is like, my wife is not gonna
Speaker 2: work because I work a lot. My son is very
Speaker 2: honest about he's sixteen. He's like, my wife's not gonna work. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: because I think I work hard, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But they also benefited, you know, So I think that
Speaker 2: there are certain things and I don't I'm not upset
Speaker 2: by that, Like I'm like, that's honest.
Speaker 3: I hope she don't work.
Speaker 2: As long as y'all not using my money, we're good,
Speaker 2: you know, I think just like being honest with it.
Speaker 1: But yes, it's obvious why you guys are friends. It's
Speaker 1: like compliment each other's lives. So for sure friends. We
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