WEBVTT - Savannah James & April McDaniel: Finding The Normal In An Abnormal Life 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.480 Can you tell me that Joe's story, why was he involved? 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.480 Or at your basements by happenstance he was involved. 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.200 But I go in the bathroom and the doors are closed, 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.000 like locked, so I'm like they're like knocking, like can 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:11.680 we please get in here? 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.600 Please get in here? And Joe opened up the door 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:17.320 like oh oh oh. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.279 Because I'm bawling, like you don't know what to say, 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.480 so they're like, oh, she's just not proposed to doesn't. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:24.800 He know who you are? Or does it? 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:26.200 Maybe you know? 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.720 Hey, guys, this episode is brought to you by boost Mobile. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:41.640 Please welcome Savannah James and April MG Daniel's Hill. Rah. Hi, guys, Hi, 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.360 did you do interviews a lot? Or is this like 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.760 a never the bane of my existance? You hate it? It? 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.120 Tell me why talk to me about it? What is it? 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.560 What is the thing? I don't know. I just would 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.200 rather be quiet quiet. You know. He was so surprising 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.080 to me when you guys launched this pod for that 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.560 reason alone, because I feel like, you know, Savannah gets 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:10.160 so much of like she's our unproblematic queen. You know 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.160 what I'm saying, That's that's how they but you keep 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.240 it that way you like it, and I'm sure you're 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.640 problematic to like every other human being in private life, right, 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.480 but you never really showed that. So when you guys 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.280 decided to launch the pot I even saw that in 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.720 some of the comments, like no, Savannah, don't don't talk. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:30.920 We like you Like I'm like, y'all don't know. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.039 I'm actually a little more crazy, actually are you? But 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:35.319 it's fine, just a little bit. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.880 But what made you want to come outside and give 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.320 people a little bit more of you? 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.360 To be honest, I think it's that I definitely have 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:45.600 a personality. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.000 I definitely have a voice. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:48.880 I use it. 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.680 Maybe a little bit of a practice because to use 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.440 it publicly is not what I typically like to do. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.720 So coming out of my little box a little bit 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:01.960 more that way is a baby challenge. 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.240 Yeah, it's fun. Whose idea was it in the first place? 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.560 I think it was both couples together both. I feel 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:10.240 like we. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.840 Always have aha moments, like you know, you're like talking 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:13.799 to your friend, I'm like, this. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.799 Would be genius. She like yeah, girl, like she is 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:17.640 the battery. 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:19.560 But I was gonna say, were you surprised as her 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.440 friend somebody who knows her so well and know how 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.400 she's perceived that she was like down to do this. No, no, 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.280 you were This is who she really is because you 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.919 know her better than that. Yes, I'm like, y'ah are confused. Okay, 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.200 take me to the friendship. So we have a seventeen 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.160 years is that right? Yeah, that's a long time, long time, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.080 long time it started. You guys are like babies. And 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.480 how I know you were working with Lebron? 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.280 So I've done all the Lebron's stuff for years. Like 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:44.920 outside of basketball. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.919 When you say stuff, what's the events, experiential, creative? How 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:48.800 did you get that job? 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:50.519 Worked with Maverick. 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.760 I came up in the industry with MAV and Rich 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.359 and I think we all just stuck together, like as 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.320 we came up, we all leaned on each other. And 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.200 I think being a black fean a lot, I would 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.440 go to the guys like what y'all think? 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:03.640 Should I do this? Should I do that? 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.000 And they'd be like, yeah, girl, you should do that, 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.920 and I'll be like, okay, great, yea. So I think 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.960 just like being in the entrepreneur space and they're not 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:11.200 being a lot of females there. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.200 They're really good those guys too. I haven't spent a 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.120 lot of time around them, but I have been in 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:19.840 rooms at dinners and they are I don't know, they 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.639 share information rich Man like they share information. I've had 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.560 moments while I was pivoting and I'd be like, hey, 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.400 MAV sorry to bother, Can I pick your brain? He's 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.160 like absolutely, here's the time. Like they're very I don't know, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.440 just supportive of women in that yes. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.400 And so they were super supportive of me, and I 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.040 think I did a lot of things that had more 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.400 risk and I kind of was like, I'm gonna do 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.240 this and be all right, we can support whether it 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.000 be Clutch, whether it be spring Hill. Over the years, 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.840 so all of the businesses that are LJ adjacent and 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.080 around him, I kind of helped support in some sort 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.640 of way. And Savannah would be at events and I'd 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.400 be like, hey, what are you doing and should be 0:03:58.400 --> 0:03:59.560 in the corner like not talking. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.560 I'm like she got a lot to say say. Were 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.840 you like determined to crack her up? Like when you did? 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:10.920 I was like what you got to say? 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:12.560 And what was going on with you? Were you just 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:13.400 like protective? 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.400 Protective? I think coming into. 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.159 The NBA, Yeah, I wasn't as welcomed as I thought 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.560 I would be, So I took that as like, let 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.760 me just sit back here and chill because these ladies 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.280 do not care about me. It was much more hierarchy, 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:33.240 I feel like back in the day because I was yeah, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.520 and I'm a baby, can y'all not really, I'm seventeen 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:36.279 years old, guys. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.960 I just want I'm just like hey, They're like, you're 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:39.640 gonna be here long. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.640 I'm like, damn, you were seventeen dealing with that, so 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.400 you just chose to just stay to myself. So here 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:53.000 she come on. I'm like ship. So yeah, that was 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:54.920 the first and then I'm like, come on, come on. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:56.839 And then we were in the same city. We were 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.640 both in Miami, and then that's when we got really close. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.640 Then she moved to Cleveland. I moved to LA and 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.400 then I'm like, girl, you need to come to LA. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.400 And she's like, well, my husband place in Cleveland. I 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.960 was like, we gonna just like I'm a manifested. The 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.520 next thing, you know, he came to La. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:13.760 She was like, I'm coming to LA. I was like, what, 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.080 But what was the thing? What was the thing that 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.800 made you trust her? Because you clearly had been had up, 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.480 you had walls up, probably protecting yourself from and rightfully, 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:23.760 so I'm sure. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.280 Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's the way 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:26.040 people show up. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:30.360 You know, you can tell it's really in your corner, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.320 who really messed with you in a real way. Like 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:33.919 I just think it was that and how she showed 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.960 up for me and understanding like I was in the 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.880 corner sitting quiet like and trying to get. 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:40.440 The best out of me. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:41.880 So I think it was just that. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.000 And I think consistency. I think people don't realize how 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:51.080 big consistency is in friendships and in relationships, Like, if 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.600 you're not consistent, how do you really depend on somebody? 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.680 It's crazy now because you're grown and we see you 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.839 and le she got the good outfie on, y'all got 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.240 your pots and stuff. But thinking of a seventeen year 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.880 old girl seventeen is first of all, if you was 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.000 a mother at eighteen is white. My mother was. My 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.479 mother was a mother at eighteen, and now as an adult, 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.320 when I think about that, because I got a twenty 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.520 year old and a twenty three year old, I'm like, 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:18.080 they can't have no faes absolutely, Like I don't know 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.920 what what were you like at seventeen eighteen. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:22.599 Just trying to figure it out. It was a lot 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.800 going on. I was thankful though, to be home. I 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.719 think that's that helped a lot. I was with my 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.080 family still. I have my mom and dad and my sisters. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.919 My nephew was very much a foundation that I was 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.279 able to lean on at that time. So it didn't 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:40.080 bother me like not having external I guess relationships. Yeah, 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.520 because my family was there. Obviously Lebron was there, so 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:43.560 I'm like, cool, right. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.680 Here, I could be right here quiet. Yeah. My best 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.839 friend too, it's from ACA, so I had her. You 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:48.400 had her. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.280 That's good, so you kept your circle tight super yeah. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:57.159 Still still, I mean, you know, it's as adults. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.120 And you know, because you've been in the business a 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:02.359 long time, it's like when you're popping, you're like a 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.920 magnet for like, you know, opportunists, people want to get 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.640 in the game, people who want to just be close 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.480 to you because yeah, y'all pop it. Like you know. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.840 I just think as a young girl at seventeen eighteen, 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.040 trying to navigate how to when to let people in 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.640 must have been very challenging. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.320 It was, but I just didn't just to be honest, 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.760 like I just didn't. Yeah, I just didn't. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.120 But that doesn't do a young girl that doesn't get like, 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.880 I don't know, I like looking out the window, like 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.720 what them girls doing out? Like what are they doing 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.440 at the club? What they doing outside? 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.760 This is pre social Oh okay too, Like there was no. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.600 Side in Ohio, don the street from where I grew 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.040 up chilling raising my babies. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.280 Yeah, and she's like, it was fine, it was fine. 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:49.640 And then hear this one come along. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:54.040 Okay, guys were gonna be friends and we're gonna be outside. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.720 Well, what was it about Savannah that you felt like? 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.520 I think for me, I felt like I I saw 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.560 a shell of a person because I was like, she's 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.240 not that's not her real self. She's not this quiet. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.600 So I was like, see if it's true. Like and 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.800 then I was just consistent, wanted the shell cracked. I 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.280 was like, oh lord, this. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.480 Is doing that. She don't do that. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:18.640 This is a qualifier. 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:20.080 What surprised you the most? 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:25.280 I think, Oh my god, she's so layered. I think 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.560 she just has so many facets of who she is, Like, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.880 you know, I think the world sees her as like 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:39.440 this royal quiet like kind of you know, reserved person, 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.200 and I think she is really a diamond. And I 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.280 think when you shine light on it, it has a 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:50.760 different facets to showing how people can look one way 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:51.800 and you don't really know. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.840 And I think that is the importance. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:59.719 Of people keeping and making sure they're curious because I 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.720 think you never know with someone's story, you know what 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.040 you see is not And that's why we created Everybody's 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.280 Crazy to be honest, because everybody thinks it looks like this. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.520 Like even when we walked in, you were like, where's 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:11.920 the team? 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:19.880 Were like, no, they came here, she's hair. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.319 I just think people believe one thing and they don't 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:23.800 really know. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.120 But stop because y'all be having especially you you haven't 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:31.000 Glam and Squad sometimes don't do that. I do enjoy it, yeah, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.120 you know. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:33.920 I mean I get my hair done and then I'm 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.040 just improvised, like y'all gonna get what y'all gonna get. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.800 I'm not paying for Glam because I like the shop, 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.679 like I'll I always say to her like, I was. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.280 Like that is expensive. She was like, that's not that expensive. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:46.120 I'm like, that's a. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.200 Waste of money. We need to like there's small things 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:50.320 I'm layered like that. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:55.599 I'm also layered, like I still go to pull her outside. 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.920 I mean at CBS with cupons, Give me a cupons 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:05.559 and you check out like wallet, I have the CBS. 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:09.200 Yes, the accounts singing, and then you get yeah. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.120 Don't lie all right, I don't know, I don't care 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.520 about but I do use it, Thank. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.520 You very much. CBS keybonds are the truth. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.480 Don't you understand this. I don't know if you had these, 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.439 but remember with bed, Bath and Beyond you said, yes, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.520 you know the one percent. 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.880 Yeah, they said the year ine sell. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.839 To and you can also use them at home because 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:31.840 double up yo. That is I mean like we said this. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.920 No way you know about any of this, girl, I 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.480 don't know. How do you know? Come on, I mean tell. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.400 No, but you'll tell me about the sapphor sound like 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.240 you're like, oh, it's twenty thirty. If you v I, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:49.520 I'm not VA, I'm VI I ps CDs. Yes, she 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.800 told me, yes, she'll tell the CBS is no, I'm 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:53.280 not doing that. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.800 Yeah I do. 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No, 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.720 the nail girl comes to your bedroom. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.280 My nail girl hates doing in house stuff and can 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:01.920 I enjoyed? 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.800 I enjoy going to get my nails done. 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.360 Also, she charged to ex yeah got it. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:09.120 Just give it though. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.600 But I came to the show and there's no valet 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.840 at the Blue Note in La. So I'm like, damn, 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.080 we're on the park. So driving around and find this 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.160 little parking spot. This little man said, and I said, sir, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:20.400 how much is the park? 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:21.200 He's like ten dollars. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.760 I'm like, great park. Go to the Blue Note. So 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.160 I'm standing there waiting for April to get there, and 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.960 I said, by yourself, Yeah, I see it's a car there, 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.440 and the lady is selling cakes. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.480 She's like, I do this a lot. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.520 Hey, anybody ever tell you look like Savannah James. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:37.600 I'll be like I get that a lot. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.599 After the fact, I came out and another friend of 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:41.920 ours is trying to help us, like where are you 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.439 all park at? I'm gonna take you to the car, 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.360 and I'm like, okay, it over here. So they're looking 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.800 at me like, Savannah, you parked all the way over here, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.840 you walked over here. I'm like, yeah, Like, what's supposed 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.280 to do? It's no valet? Like I drove myself. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:55.760 But I just don't. 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:56.440 I don't know. 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.480 I just live I feel like our life is so abnormal. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.960 I try to keep it as normal as possible. That 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.880 makes sometimes I go a little too far with it 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:06.319 and be like, you know, you should have had security 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.000 or somebody here with you, but try to stay nor 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:11.320 heard you. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:12.760 What else does she do that's normal? 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.120 I think most of our life is her life is normal. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:22.880 And I feel like we like direct Rightesshi, yeah we do, 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.680 we do. We'd be doing what's the ratchet ship? 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.040 You've done this this month? 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:33.920 I would say the most ratchet would have been the 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:34.760 Trap till the. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:40.080 Sun came Jesus, what was happening? Movie? Trap? 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.680 And we came out the sun was on the rights 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.880 Peo were like, so. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:50.240 We have the time. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.640 I think we do whatever we want to do, and 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.960 I think Savannah normally is like, oh, let's try this, 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.280 and we're like, let's treat it. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.840 Do you do this? Because you know, I have some 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.040 friends that are like they can't go walk around, like 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.120 Mary is one of my friends. So we go out. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:12.000 I always feel almost I almost feel like I'm jump 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.760 into like security mode, like I become the friend. It's 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.200 not just in like security, like is she okay? But 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.960 I also am very protective. 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.600 Yeah, I'm like that of like and we make sure 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.800 security set up, everything set up. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.560 Like but not just that, but I mean, like, you know, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.240 when you have access or things, it's like a lot 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.400 of opportunity opportunists, other friends, new friends. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.440 I think we give welcoming you knowing up on us. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.160 I'm looking like, no, it's okay, we don't give welcoming. 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.200 No, I don't think we do. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.560 Who more so than the other he's. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.680 A nice one. I'd be like, ma'am no, Like I'm 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.240 jet I'm not. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:16:00.600 She's like hey, hi, oh, I'm like no. 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:05.480 Come on, Savannah, let's go see. Yeah, so you're the one. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:10.200 Yeah, she's chatting and let's go. No, nobody taking no 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.600 pictures of us nowhere. Let's get out of here. Like 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:17.040 that's why no one ever sees anything. It's given dodging weave. 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:21.440 Yeah, but do you become then the dynamic? Make you 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:22.960 become then like the protector? 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.080 In some ways, I just feel like innately, I'm not 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:27.480 really that welcoming. 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:29.400 I don't give what is that? 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.400 Why is that? I just don't think I'm a. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:32.240 Chatter like that. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.440 I'm very protective of my personal energy, so I'm not like, 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.600 oh my god, hi, and I'm not fake. So if 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:40.680 I don't like it, I'll be like. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.240 Oh my god, you can't do that. I'm like, I 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:44.880 don't like it. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:46.920 Like I'll go sit in the corner and be doing whatever, 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.320 she be chatting with whatever, and I'll be like, Okay, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:50.760 they come over chat with me. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.840 I said, no, keep chatting with her. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.480 She's gonna chat with you. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:56.680 You know. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.120 Then you start wanting to drink the alcohol said, I said, no, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:03.880 you get out calling. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:11.679 Like that is funny. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.040 It works, So it's okay. So what is the key then, 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.280 to each of you? What do you think it takes 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.120 to be a good good friend or to a long 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:22.879 lasting to have a long friendship. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:30.280 It's a very clear level of understanding. I can sometimes disappear. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.960 I need to recharge my social batteries on e so 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.800 I'll just disappear and people be looking for me and 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.439 all the things you Savannah, just just not looking at 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.040 my phone, not responding, not doing the things that people 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.679 typically do. And I think that it comes with a 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.960 level of that understanding that you know, sometimes I need 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:54.199 my space just personally, and then the grace that your 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:55.960 friend is able to show you, like Okay, I get 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.119 where she is right now, let me give her a minute. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.240 I think very clear level of understanding for me is 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.880 where a good friendship. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.159 And your best friend too, that you grew up with. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:07.440 You've been friends for. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.760 My whole life, your whole life for almost forty years. 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.160 Yeah yeah, so how have you had to I don't 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:13.520 know what have you learned about that? 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:15.440 With that? 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.560 I think you have to be mindful of meeting people 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.480 where they are and going with them on their journey 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.760 and loving them through all of the things that they 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.760 go through. I mean life be life in and I 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.560 think that just being there to be honest as a 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.560 sounding board or whatever. I live in La, she's in Ohio. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.840 So we don't speak every day, but when we do, 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.240 it's really just catching up exactly where we left off. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.680 It's nothing weird, it's nothing like it's just everything is 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:45.199 just normal. 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.200 When you have a friend like that, it becomes almost 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:53.920 like fam I have one two meter. We've been best 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.280 friends since we're eight years old, so you could imagine, yeah, 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.040 this big age she knows about me. I forgot. Yeah, 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.399 you know what I'm saying. But I think it's becomes 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.600 almost like a family member, where if you don't talk 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.639 for a month. It's like your cousin or your sister, 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.880 You're still gonna jump right back into that, which is good. 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:09.880 What about you? What do you got? 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:15.640 I takes friendship very seriously, Like I'm not really plain 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.960 about my friends, so there's no in between for me, 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:24.359 Like I don't have associates none, like and you know, 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.520 like sometimes when you talk to people and they're like, oh, 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.359 it's tiered friends, you know, like this is my top tier. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.200 Now all my friends are on the same level, They're 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:37.359 on the same playing field. For me, it is consistency 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.480 and how you show up and how you support me 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.120 and the things that I fall short on, and then 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.280 how I can do the same for you is so important. 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.800 I feel like as you evolve, you need different things 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.120 at different times in your life, and your friend has 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.560 to almost be able to meet you there. But I 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:02.880 also think radical honesty, Like I think sometimes people are 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:07.240 in relationships and friendships that are just not honest, Like 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.239 people are like, oh, I don't really want to say that, 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.000 or like that's going to hurt that person's feelings, or 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.399 you say it yeah, And I also want someone to 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.800 say it to me, because I think that allows you 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.760 to grow, and I think a lot of people don't 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:20.760 want to live in that space. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.800 They like, I think, well, because sometimes radical honesty requires 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:29.200 like a level of confrontation, yes, and some people do 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:30.000 not like that. 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.760 But I mean, then what is friendship? What is relationship 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.080 if you can't have real conversation? I'm like, what are 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:36.680 we talking about? That's why I don't have any in 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.560 between friends because you want me to say some shit? 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.679 Are you delusional? Like that's how I feel. I'm like, 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.119 are you okay? Give me an example of what that 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.280 looks like? Though? Like really, like what does that mean 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.000 when you say honesty with your friends? Are you're telling 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:53.680 them they their hair looks bad? Yeah? What's something you told? 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.960 What was a radical piece of honesty you gave? Savannah? 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.160 I'm like, you can't be on calls not saying nothing 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:06.959 like that's sitting there, sitting there looking like I'm like, smile, 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:12.320 do something, engage a little bit, like you're killing me, 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:14.760 Like all right, I'm. 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.000 Gonna work on it, you know. 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:16.800 But but she. 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:17.400 Takes it well. 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.200 I mean, yeah, you have to because it's only it 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.760 is we're in business together. So like what I'm you know, 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.920 then it looks like the partnership is lopsided when it's not, 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.719 because when the door's closed, she'd be like, all right, 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.080 let me tell you. And I'm like, well, why didn't 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:34.880 you say that on the pall if you had an opinion? 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:36.879 Why didn't What is it? What did you get to? 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:39.840 Is it shy or is it just you're used to 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.359 like I'm not letting people in or what. I don't know. 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:43.080 I don't think it's that. 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:46.639 I think it's just that I am not really like 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.920 when I said the pod is an exercise for using 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:52.840 my voice, I'm in that, Like I really would prefer 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:53.680 to just be like. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:57.840 And then come back like that was some dumb ass shit. 0:21:59.200 --> 0:21:59.880 That's what she be doing. 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:03.919 You thought it was dumbing You was sitting there. 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.280 Like, I'm like, I thought that she was crazy and 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.640 I was popping off. Also, we just did an exercise. 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:13.119 We did it enneagram exercise. Explain I so you answer 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:16.159 all of these questions. It's like thirty minutes worth of 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.200 question to answer. Oh the god, No, we did it 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:24.080 in private, okay, yes, and this is is one through nine. 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:27.399 And you are this certain type of person, that's the 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:29.480 way that you show up. Oh yes, I'm a quiet 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:35.200 peacemaker y, So on the calls, I would prefer to say, hmm, okay, 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.320 I get that, I understand, and then go back and 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:40.159 be like, this is what I really think because I 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.200 don't remember if on no feathers right, and I'm an 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.520 active controller, so I'm like, the fuck is happying? 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.240 Wait? Tell me about this personality. 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:52.040 You need to take it. What It's called an enneagram test. 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:56.600 Anyogram I've heard you like, what kind of person you are, 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.040 how you see the world, what are the questions? 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.919 Where are you? It's like, how do you make decisions? 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.720 So a lot of people make decisions, Well, people make 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:10.840 decisions gut, hard or head. I'm gut, Savannah is hard, right, 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.520 so I'll be like, no, she's like, oh some time. 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.480 Not happening. I don't make it so. 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.560 And then some people are head, which means they come 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:27.119 from like a knowledge standpoint of like head, I think 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:32.040 you do, I do based on what that's my gut. 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.920 I have gut to you don't think. I think your heart. 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:42.280 I think the same little gut to know just like a. 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:45.200 Like a of course, we probably all have a little 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:46.040 bit of all things. 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.200 But what do you lead with? I guess you think 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:49.600 that's interesting. 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.159 I don't think you haven't been able to lead like that, 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.119 but I think that's what you really are. 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.120 In my natural state. My natural state is a little 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:03.320 bit different than what my career has correct forced me 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:06.879 to become. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.760 would like to I would You're right, you're good. Oh 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.560 my god, why I don't take that drink from that girl? 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.320 My most natural state, I would probably like to be 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.480 on the call and be like, yeah, I would like 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.560 to do that too, but I don't have the luxury 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.320 of that. And also, I'm trying to do this certain 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.639 ship and you're can probably you're probably experiencing some of 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.200 this too. Yeah, sure, well you're like, that's my natural state. 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.199 But if I want to get from A to B, 0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.240 I have to show up differently. I'm gonna show up differently. 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:34.919 I'm gonna show and so I think the training that 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.119 I've had over the past whatever thirty years. 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:39.639 Yes, but that's also the conversation we have when I 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.240 when she's on the call like quiet, and I'm like, hey, 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.520 you gotta say somebody you know, And so this. 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:47.359 Is like fully pushing you out of your comfort zone way. 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.440 But I'm prepared and I think it's time. 0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:52.800 You think it's time, do you have to like consult 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.680 with because and forgive me if I think of this wrong, 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.760 like you keep saying, are you okay that has to 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:04.119 run things by a council like they probably would like 0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.520 me to. They would like you to mind, I imagine, 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.399 because it's not just you represent your family really yeah, 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:12.879 you know, so it's not like you're moving through the 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.439 world by yourself. So if you do, if you go 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.520 wild and you go rogue, you get into some crazy ass, 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.719 it doesn't just affect you, it affect your family. So 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.119 you have to kind of, I don't know, navigate it, 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.439 navigate that. Yeah, I think they will love me too. 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.160 But I think at the end of the day, they 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.680 know that I'm not going to do anything that's going 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:37.399 to jeopardize anything that has been built today. So I 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.680 think there's a certain level of trust there. I mean, 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.400 so far, it's been so far with so much support. 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.600 So yeah, they love How do the. 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.480 Kids feel, like, does everybody do they like seeing you 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.720 in this way? Like Mom's out doing potting and interviewing. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.320 Do not care? They don't care? No, what do you mean? 0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:58.679 Well, they're supportive as well, but like as a check in, 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:00.560 they just be like, oh, you gotta go to work, 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:06.040 what you gotta go do? Like that, but supportive like 0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.320 the boys. Well, Zuri and Bryce have called into the pot, 0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:10.200 so that's nice. 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.159 It's so cute. And Briannie is. 0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.919 Doing his own thing. Brinnie is twenty one and Thugan he's. 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.399 Outside, not twenty one and Thugan he is living his 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.400 best life. And Lebron won't call it or you don't 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:21.520 want him to call it. He's called. 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.720 Oh he has called, he's called, he's called, and he 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.840 was on He's live, he's come on live with us, 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.080 and he's super supportive. I think it's so nice. Yeah, 0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.760 well we're like we don't. I don't know nothing about basketball, 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:32.640 not a thing. 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.480 Shut up. So how do you work with all these 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:35.200 guys and you don't know? 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:40.360 It's okay. I've been to three games in my whole life, and. 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.840 You got a first. You can probably get you good tickets. Yeah, 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:44.240 she'd been writing me all the time, like girl. 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.000 Lebron's like, don't bring her to the game. 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.080 She talked too much because I've been over there talking 0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.240 game and playing like you too, are just chatting, like 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.840 watch the game, So I feel like just basketball and 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:57.720 I'm just thinking it's not where. 0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:58.560 I want to spend my time in the. 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.520 So what have you What have you guys learned about 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:04.520 I don't know, because, like you said, its out of 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.680 your comfort zone and you never did a pod. I mean, 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.840 you know this is not fully out of your comfort 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.600 zone in terms of you know, I don't know, just 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:13.320 but I do. 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.760 I think I've always been behind the camera, That's what 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:16.120 I mean. 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.560 I think for us, it's not so much about us, 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.840 though I think a lot of people think that it 0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.200 is or we did it because of that. I think 0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:26.560 the way we see the world and the way a 0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.959 lot of other people see the world is just very different. 0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.280 And I think we want to show more of a 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:35.360 human side of like, no one has it together, no 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:39.320 one like, no one is exempt of hardship, no one 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.200 in life like whatever your hardship may be, no one 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.000 is there to judge. But I think just bringing some 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.640 humanity to like how people are seeing the world and 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:52.320 just understanding the pressure people are under and even when 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:56.840 you have the most resources, when you're evolving is hard like, 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.679 and I think when you bring conversation to it, it 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:03.560 makes people feel like they're not alone, you know, and 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:04.919 I think that's why we feel. 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.240 Like you were born to do this, though, but you 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.400 jump right into it like I don't know you. 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.680 Just I feel like we're comfortable with each other. If 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.040 it was someone else, I don't think I would be. 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.320 But even now, you're like, you're doing interviews, you're doing press, you're. 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.479 Outside, girl, let's let's let's dress. Stress. 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.280 What do you mean? Who stressed? You? Are you a boat? 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:22.600 Me? 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.719 More than anything? Stress, because I feel like today like, 0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.520 why tell me, let's let's talk. 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.439 I'd rather just be behind my computer making a lot 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:32.840 of money. 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:34.000 So then why are you doing it? 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.679 Because of what I just said, I think the humanity 0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:40.160 and also to be honest, even this is curated, we 0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:41.640 could have went on a million pods. 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.000 We wanted you like that's the. 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.880 Reality like this because of my heart, because because of 0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.520 who you are, because of the story I know of you, 0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.680 because of the mom your story, the way you tell 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:57.240 your story. I think we are intentional with every move 0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.560 we make. If people think we're not your delusion. If 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.800 you think that, we don't think about it. We've never 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.920 gone on anybody else's pod. So like when we started 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.440 talking about doing this. We were very select on who 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.800 that we want to tell our story with because I 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:18.800 think there is a level of integrity and like how 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.040 people tell stories is really important. 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.560 So I think for me, I'm. 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:28.280 Nervous because doing it is more is bigger than us. 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:30.720 I think people look at us and like, oh my god, 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.040 celebrities or whatever, talent or whatever, and I think it's 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:35.920 so much bigger than that. I think what me and 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.120 Savannah are trying to do and build is really for 0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.920 other people to see that they are not alone. 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.120 Oh yeah, I get that. What about you? What is this? 0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:45.520 Like? 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:51.400 Does this feel normal to you yet? Nope? Still really so? 0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:52.640 I still I don't know. 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.640 I think she says it a lot of like are 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.880 you okay? I still think it's interesting that people even 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:05.640 want to talk to me like really, yeah, are you okay? 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.080 I think it's interesting. 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:09.920 We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. 0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.800 Bring you on because I got questions are you okay? 0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.080 Are you okay? Are you okay? Yeah? 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.880 But I do think to echo April, what we're building 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.360 is way bigger than us, and I think it's only 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.920 the tip of the iceberg at this point. 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.640 What is the goal what is the ever Like, what 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:28.880 do you what do you want to build? What are 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:29.560 you trying to build? 0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:33.120 So we're we are ultimately the end goal is we're 0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:36.120 going to have a holding company and all of our 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:40.120 businesses will roll into it. So crown and conquer. Everybody's crazy, 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.880 let it break. And I think what we're trying to 0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:46.560 build is just a place for people to understand that 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.520 you can grow, you can laugh, you can be yourself, 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.880 you can be authentic, you can put creative in the 0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:57.280 world for communities that are not represented, and you can 0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:03.080 still just be human. Like none of this matters without people, period, 0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.080 Like this show doesn't exist without your viewers hitting us 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:10.440 and you know watching I think everything is bigger than 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:12.560 just two people, you know what I mean. And I 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.160 think a lot of times people don't operate from that place. 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.240 So I think everything we're touching is intentional. That we 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:22.440 want impact. We want to see women thrive and grow. 0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.600 We want to see people realize that they're not alone, 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.400 and we want to support other women like you and 0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:33.840 other women around us doing great things because it's rare. 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.760 I think we act like this is normal. This is 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:37.480 not normal. 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:38.880 None of it's normal. 0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:42.600 None of it's normal what we're doing. 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.280 None of it is normal. And I think a lot 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.960 of times a lot of women like dim themselves. But 0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.280 I said, I said to Savannah an other day, I'm like, 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:55.239 this is big, and it's okay to be big, you know, 0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.200 And I think both of us have been not okay 0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:58.800 to be big. 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:04.280 Yeah, we talk about that too here sometimes like main 0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.800 character energy, yeah, right, Like you know I have friends 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.440 who are in they might do glam or they do 0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:15.360 your supportive roles. Yes, so you play the role and 0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:19.479 sometimes you know it's a struggle to pop out of 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.800 a supportive role. Yeah, I mean you have and you 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:25.040 have one to pop out of a supportive role and 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.640 jump into main character energy. You know what I'm saying. 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:33.160 I wonder for you guys if there's if that feels natural. 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.240 The last year being in fear, what do you mean, 0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.840 like in fear about everything we're working on? What I'd 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.520 be like, what the fuck? To men like girl, we 0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:43.160 can do it. 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:45.560 I'm like, you're the we could do it. I would 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.120 think she would be that we could do it, So 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.640 we can do it all the time. We can do that. 0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:54.720 I'm like, whoa, that's always say what my body what, 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.240 don't worry about it. We gonna do it, Like what 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.840 this is all day? We can do it. 0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:04.560 And I'm always. 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:05.640 Like, huh oh. 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.320 It took me so long to wrap my head around it. 0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.920 Like you feel are you feeling? Do you feel main character? 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:11.680 And that you feels out? 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:11.800 Now? 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:12.520 I feel ready? 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:13.440 You know what? 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:14.800 I feel like, We're ready? 0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.520 What about you? I agree? Was there a transition for 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:17.920 you though? 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:18.880 Like huge? 0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:20.680 Yeah, tell me about transition a little bit. 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.920 The biggest transition came to me when my daughter says 0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:28.600 she wanted to be like me? What like why? But 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:29.760 she said it when she was. 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:31.320 Like six, and she's like, I'm like, why do you 0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:31.960 want to be like me? 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.240 She's like, because you dance and you dressed and you 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.600 do your makeup and all things that are feeling to 0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.000 a six year old. It just it scared me. And 0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.760 I'm like, I having the boys and being a mom 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.239 and in that role and killing it in the way 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.400 that I did, I was okay, well your mom shite period. 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.960 And then when I had a daughter, I had to 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.160 show up differently, like she's watching me. The boys ain't care, 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.480 they like want to play basketball and whatever, but it's 0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.840 really somebody that's sitting there watching every move that I make, 0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.480 and what in my going to do to show her 0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.320 that she's worthy of whatever she wants to do? 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.399 So is that your mova when you get uncomfortable, when 0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.440 you get uncomfortable hopping into main character energy. 0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:13.360 Like yes, yeah, at the end of the day, I'm like, 0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.799 it's not about me, even though it is about me 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.279 as well, because I think it's it's therapy for me 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:19.719 as well. 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.319 But it's it's fine. What has surprised you about that 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:25.440 transition is anything? 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:26.680 It's actually not that bad. 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.759 It's not It's really not that bad. No. 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.839 I think I was more so worried. 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:35.120 That I'm starting to see the beauty and making a 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.440 mistake and learning from it as opposed to making a 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.799 mistake and being judged for it. So I think that 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.759 that's all that. Yeah, just to be like fuck it. 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.000 If it happened and it go wrong, then okay. 0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:46.920 What did you learn? Did you learn them? 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:47.040 All? 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.800 Right? Keep it moving? Yeah? Yeah, because growth comes from 0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.080 the fuck ups? Yeah, big time. How are you gonna 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:53.560 fuck up? If you're so worried about sucking up in 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.959 front of everybody and then you're like stuck. I'm sucking 0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:01.200 up all the time. I'm like, oh, fucks up? Can 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.440 I keep it moving? I fuck up regularly. Yeah, I 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.839 hate it still. Yeah it's never get easy, but it 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:07.640 never gets easy. 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.239 But I feel like just embracing that is not going 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.400 to be exactly how you envisioned. 0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.479 Yeah, and going with the flow. Tell me a time, 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.480 each of you tell me a time were the other 0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:21.640 one when you were becoming friends and you realize this 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.759 this she's a real one, Like tell me a time 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.359 when you had to show up or actually, you tell 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.759 me a time Savannah showed up for you in a 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.240 way that was meaningful. 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.960 To a lot on the phone, which people just we 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:34.480 don't see each other a lot, like people are like, 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:35.600 how often do y'all hang out? 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.560 We were like, I like to work, I get to business. 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.080 So I mean we talk FaceTime a lot and we 0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:44.560 catch up a lot. 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:45.040 On the phone. 0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:49.640 And I think that that became like a security blanket 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.400 for me that I didn't realize I needed. So like 0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.240 just being able to call invent or say something about 0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.839 my job or work or parenting. It was like I 0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.440 was like, oh, it's like being in like a little bootleg. 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:03.279 Partnership, you know what. 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:07.120 I mean, and she always was with the shit. I'm like, 0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:08.040 do you want to go to Paris? 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:08.200 Oh? 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.080 Yeah, girl, let's go to Paris. Do you want to 0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:11.719 go to Bla, Yeah, come on, let's go. 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.600 Oh my gosh. She do anything, like we could go anywhere. 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.160 So yeah, So it was like limitless. 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.200 I think that that's when I started to realize that, 0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:25.600 like all a lot was more possible than I really believe. 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.560 So I think it was consistently over time, and then 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:35.040 like two years ago. I've always felt like she knew me. 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.160 But two years ago I went through a breakup and 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.120 I was like at my office and I was sad, 0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.440 and she just came to the office and I was like, 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:41.960 what are you? 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.640 She like never leaves her house, what are you doing here? 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:46.200 Can give me a huck? 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.600 And I just was sappy and crying and amazing, and 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:54.920 it felt so good to just like not say what 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.920 I needed, but someone just knowing. And I feel like 0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:01.160 I slowly had that over the seventeen years we've been friends. 0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.239 And then in that moment, I was like, Oh, she's 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.680 just showing up because she knows that this is like 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.520 hard and she and I was like, you just came 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:10.800 here now, I'm leaving. 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.239 What were you worried about her? Yeah? Yeah, it was 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.880 a hard it was a hard time breakup suck. Yeah, 0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:21.960 And you said, I'm gonna get in the car, i'mna 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:22.640 drive over there. 0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:27.239 I brought her lunch on my way. 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:29.960 What about what about the time she showed up for you? 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:30.680 You got one of those? 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.760 Mmm, It's been so many times I think she shows 0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:38.000 up for me. It's not necessarily crisis mode. It's just 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.319 her Like she has a way with words that is 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.719 like did you like study? Like how did you come? 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.640 How did you put that together? Like that, just in 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:49.600 a way that anything is happening. And I feel like 0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.279 with any situation, I can go to her and she's 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.080 going to get me exactly what I need at that time, 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:58.960 just talking to me. 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.600 And she doesn't get fired up. I get fired up. 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:04.759 I'm like, and you say it, and you gonna say this, 0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:05.960 and you're gonna do that. 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.480 She's like, yeah, ah, wait a minute, brother, I could 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.520 record and I record and tell and say that and 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.880 do that because she she's like, doesn't get upset. 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:16.280 There's so many instances. 0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.560 I think sometimes you meet people in life that are 0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.560 like soulmates, and I think people don't realize you can 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:26.279 have soulmate friends. I have too, and they both have 0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.759 come later in life, which has been surprising. And I 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.680 think soul maate is so attributed to a man a 0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:35.160 lot of times, Yah, it's not attributed to friendships and 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.160 like some because I feel like people a lot of 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.680 times don't value friendship like they're like, oh, I could 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.520 people be inclined to get rid of the man before 0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.280 or get rid of a friend and stay with somebody 0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.680 that they shouldn't be with, like and never work on 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.719 the friendship. And friendships need work too, you know what 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.280 I mean. So I think it is like a soul 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.480 mat connection. Like people are like you, guys are so 0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.399 in sync. I don't think we we realize, but we're 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.759 in sync. But I think we don't work on that. 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.719 I think that's just natural and you can have that 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:08.320 with people. If you allow yourself to be vulnerable. 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.600 Then how do you have time either one of you? 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:13.480 How many kids? 0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:13.640 You have? 0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:14.880 Two kids? Two kids? 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.040 I make a lot of time. People make time for 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.799 what they want to make time for somebody. Oh, I'm 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.720 so busy. I'm like, what, No, you don't know busy. 0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:26.080 We all do be busy. 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.839 Though you'll be busy. But I think you see who 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.320 you want to see when you want to see it. 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:32.200 I'll be doing the ship I wanted to do. I 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.719 do because by the way I started golfing, I really 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.040 wish you would go. Do you hate it because your 0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:45.600 husband golfs? Do you hate it because your husband golfs? 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:46.960 You try? 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:48.080 I think it's. 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:51.400 When I saw that he started golfing, I was like, 0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.560 I hope Savannah golfs too. You haven't even tried it? 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.160 Just crazy, is okay? 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.360 I've been a top golf not the same, but I 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.560 really can hit them all. Like I feel like that's part. 0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:04.600 Of it because you're athletic, right, you get you know, 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.880 but no golf. But you don't see what do you 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:10.600 mean it's the greatest port ever. 0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.360 For six months, I'm obsessed. 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.279 No, I love it. I could go so slow. People like, 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:17.480 how do you find the time? I was like, no, 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.719 I fucking find the time, Manna, I don't have it. 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:20.920 And that's what I find. 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:22.640 That's a crazy amount of time. 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.799 Okay, what I find it early? That's what I mean. 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.120 I do it from seven to ten if I have 0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.440 to or whatever, and I get it in you know, 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.400 not all the time, but a couple of times a 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.160 week I go what, No, I golf? 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:39.040 That's crazy, I know, are you okay, I'm crazy. I'm 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:43.960 like okay, but I love it though, like all my 0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:44.479 guy friends. 0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.280 And now please go try one time with your husband. 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.719 And he loves it so much, like I so much. 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:51.600 But he liked to go to seven am t times. 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:52.160 That's not mine. 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.120 You're not gonna do it because you don't. You're not 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.520 even it doesn't even make you interested, Like what is 0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.360 this new thing that he loves so much and you 0:40:59.360 --> 0:40:59.759 don't care? 0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:05.560 You like, go ahead, No, my dad played golf my 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:06.440 whole life growing up. 0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:07.319 I've never been with him. 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:11.959 Oh he's taking it up. My son's played like my daughter. 0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:16.360 Your daughter's into it. Now, it's still nothing. They like, 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.520 you can come drive the car. What fun is that? 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:18.680 For me? 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.000 That's not fun. No, that's not fun. I gotta be 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:22.120 the DJ and drive the car. 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:27.759 Maybe one day, give it a try. 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.920 So what is your thing? Because the thing for golf 0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.520 for me was like, I don't know, It's like I 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.680 never really had a hobby. I worked so much all 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.279 the time, and then I had, you know, then then 0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.160 I was a mom and it was like I didn't 0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.319 have a thing that was just because I love to 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.239 do it. It's a real thing to add that to 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.239 your life. I don't know. I just wonder if you 0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.799 guys have found anything that's that for you. Some people 0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.239 are some people what is your thing? What I mean? 0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.680 I do a lot of like mental and body work. 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:59.120 Like I'm with all the all the all the ships. 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.880 There talking about that's doing a medicine journey. 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.799 I'm going on going to Hoffman doing all the like 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:11.359 unconventional things retreats, a body retreat in Rome, Like I'm 0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.719 just doing all the things like that, like out of 0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.240 the box. I don't watch TV, I don't watch movies. 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.480 Like I like a lot of quiet time with myself. 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.440 So I mean, I feel like just making sure my 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:28.719 body feels good so that my mental remains strong is 0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:31.880 really important. And I do really enjoy being around friends. 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.440 So I'm always curating some a karaoke night, a night 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:39.080 in the studio, doing this, doing that, Like I love 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.320 a little something like that is out of the box, 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.080 going to the museum, things that we don't traditionally do. 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.200 I'm always curating something. I'm like, hey, let's go to 0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.799 the cash go Bain show at Blue Note, Let's go here, 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:51.480 let's do that. 0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:53.360 Like I'm always. 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:57.000 Doing little things and the arts is really important for me, 0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:01.680 like being in the art space, volunteering, supporting, like giving back, 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:03.680 Like so that is important for me. 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.680 What you're doing, Savannah, what you're doing for fun, Phillia Soul. 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.000 I like the gone walk. 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:17.640 Every like a poet, like a long walk around l A. 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.319 I like to do pilates. You doing those like, uh, 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.480 you know those walks, those hikes, those can o No, 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.960 just walk four miles four miles. 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.880 I like pilates. I also enjoy body work. I like 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.759 all things health and wellness. But I like pottery too. 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.600 If I had the space, pottery, If I had the space, 0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:42.360 I would have a pottery studio. 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:43.839 Like what like what are you making? Though? 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.360 Like I would to make everything so right now, I 0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:48.920 know how to make a bowl in a mug, but 0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:50.680 I got I could make you a bowl in a 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:55.040 mug handle? 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:59.080 No nice, nice, Yeah, I gotta see. I'll send it 0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.000 to you, all right, A bowl the bug? What do 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:01.880 you what is the dream? 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.320 What is the I just want to make that for 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.400 for He was like like myself, and then what is it? 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:08.759 What is the thing. Why do you like it? 0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:12.480 Like it's relaxing. It's very like, yeah, kind of got 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:13.799 to lock in to do it. 0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:15.759 It's probably a similar thing because I always say with golf, 0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:17.560 it's like I'm not multi It's the one thing, the 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.160 only thing I do where I'm not multitasking. You can't 0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.080 be golfing and on the phone or or on the whatever. 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.479 It's like, this is I'm trying to hit this ball. 0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:28.880 I don't want to hear nobody talking. But it's also quiet. 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:32.120 It's quiet your feet in the grass, you're touching. You 0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:34.719 know what I'm saying. It's nice. I'm like low key 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:36.880 trying to recruit y'all. But you. 0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:42.600 Will comes support, you know. 0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.359 I've been trying to people. And then I thought maybe 0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.759 because Lebron was golfing. He looks like he really loves it, 0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.160 like he got the bug bad, right? Is in it? Yeah? 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.239 In it? He just came from Scotland. 0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:54.880 Yeah, crazy golf course in Scotland. 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.080 Is he getting better any better? Yeah? It looks a 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.280 little better on the the swing looks a little bits 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:03.000 coming along. Yeah, okay, is crazy. He has like a 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:07.080 golf like pet, like specific golf piece. Shut the Hell up, 0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:10.759 I need that. That's what I need. Yeah, I'm not 0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:12.759 need a golf The fact that I know that his 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:13.719 swing has gotten better. 0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:14.480 How would you know that? 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.879 Because I golf, so I could tell there's a thing. 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.319 There's as How good are you? No, I'm not good 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.040 at all, but I I mean I'm good for somebody 0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:26.040 who's only been golfing for a little less than four years, right, 0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:28.719 and so people have been golfing their whole life. Yeah, 0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:30.640 so if somebody who's been golfing three or four years, 0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:34.080 I'm pretty good. But I'm not going pro every in 0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:34.759 my life. 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:36.279 So are people going pro? 0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:36.719 No? 0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.920 I'm just saying you're never going to be that good. 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.600 You're always going to be like you know, it's very 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.319 interesting in men. I'm not interesting. All right, Fine, my 0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:49.640 recruiting has failed today. Fuck me? What about motherhood? 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.960 You have two two two boys twenty three and sixteen? 0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.000 How old were How old are you when you became one? So? 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.120 I was my oldest is my stepson I adopted and 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:03.560 he was ten My youngest I had when I was 0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:04.239 twenty nine. 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.680 But are you ready to grow? Grown? Yeah? 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:11.560 And then but still changes, everything changes everything. Yeah, And 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:16.000 I just think you constantly evolve. Like, I think raising 0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:21.040 kids and giving them a life that you didn't have 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:26.640 comes with pluses and minuses, you know, Like I'm just 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.719 I think that has been the hardest thing for me 0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:34.560 at this age, like not not trying to raise entitled kids, 0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.000 but in a lot of ways they are entitled because 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:41.040 of the life they live, Yeah, and struggling. Like there's 0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:44.760 something about grit that made me like who I am? Yeah, 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:48.200 for sure, And I think it's hard to give that 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.120 to kids that are not in a certain type of environment. 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:55.040 Yeah. I think that's for anybody who's like you're raising 0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.200 anybody who's raising children who didn't grow up there's like 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.719 no blueprint for you. No, if I grew up, if 0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.400 my kids grew up the same way I did, I 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.200 wouldn't know how my mother did it exactly. But I 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:09.440 don't know how to do this. And it also, Yeah, 0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:10.879 you want to give them more, but you want them 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.160 to work, and you want them to have accountability, and 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:17.000 you want them to care about things. Your kids you 0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.760 can't even there's no blueprint for you at all, zero 0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:23.160 right through any of this. So how do you navigate that? 0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:26.360 Because you grew up out like middle class. 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:29.960 I have a siblings, but I'm the youngest by eleven years, 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.120 so it's like yours mine ours stack. 0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:33.080 The situation. 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:41.120 Sharing, yeah, sharing, but definitely the baby treated as the baby. 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.560 All boys girls, two boys, two girls, and then me. 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.400 But I mean, I guess for me, I had, like 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.320 I said before, I had my family as my foundation, 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:56.560 so that helped a lot being in Ohio and having 0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.400 them around to give me or just to help me 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.480 with raising them. Yeah, I was also very young. I 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:05.160 ain't know what that. 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.600 So, but you know now, I mean you've done. 0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:11.879 It for sure, for sure, and I do think there's 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:15.719 a certain level of keeping things normal that worked for us. 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:18.399 How could you even possibly do that? 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.759 Well, I think it's the way that Lebron and I 0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:26.960 show up in the house like we did have safety precautions, 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:28.919 like we had security and things like that, just because 0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.399 the world is how the world is. But other than that, 0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.880 we moved around like we would be. 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:38.440 We're just normal. Like I don't really know how to explain. 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:40.759 I think you do a good job with it, Like 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:43.279 even with Zori, like every summer she goes back to 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:47.080 Ohio with my r grandparents, and like I feel like 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.640 there is a grounding that innately they have that is 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:54.479 a actual gift, you know, like there is a sense 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.520 of normalcy and not everything is for show and not 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:00.960 everything is like these are all the things I got 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:03.520 and this is how it looks to the world. I 0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:06.560 think Savannah has been really good at like protecting that. 0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:11.680 And Zori is now eleven, and she has such an 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:15.480 innocence that's so beautiful. Like I think a lot of 0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:19.839 people sometimes being in the limelight your kids can lose that, 0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:20.680 and she has that. 0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:21.719 Like every time I'll be. 0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:24.000 Like, oh my gosh, she's so cute, a little. 0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.640 Like still a little girl, like not growing up before 0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.359 her time, not trying to do all the things. She 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:35.640 has a rule we always argue, but no cell phone. 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:38.200 Okay, I'm tea. 0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.560 I'm on the line right now. Teetering a little bit 0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.080 with giving it to her when she's twelve, cause she's 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:45.520 a girl, she's the baby, so she could get it 0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:45.919 a year. 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:51.160 Thirteen solid And what is the reasoning behind that? What 0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:51.720 is the thinking? 0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.200 I just feel like they're a little bit more understanding 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.239 of the responsibility of having a fu. 0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:59.160 I just think thirteen is a good age. 0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:03.120 Was that scary for you when you when it happened. 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.440 No, because they were able to get phones at thirteen, 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:08.160 but no social media know anything like. 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:10.360 That until fifteen fifteen. Yeah. Wow. 0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:13.239 So when Brownie first got his social we sat there 0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:16.880 and watched the like following it was crazy. 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:17.799 I'm like, see, this is. 0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:20.319 Why he was not ready for that two years ago. Yeah, no, 0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:21.240 this is crazy. 0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.799 How did he manage it? At fifteen? He was good? Yeah, 0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:25.040 he was good, And I don't. I don't. 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.080 He's kind of like me in that way, like it's 0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:29.640 like you can have it or not, Like it's just 0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:30.920 you know, one of those things. 0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:35.520 So I think personality wise, yeah yeah, yeah. Did what 0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.200 about like the fame part of it? How do you 0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:40.680 navigate that, like especially with the kids too, and keeping 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:43.359 them normal because fame is a weird thing. I mean 0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.759 you were young coming in and it's weird. Your experience 0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:50.160 of fame, I'd imagine it's different than it's like you 0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.000 didn't choose that. It's not like you, like I want 0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:53.920 to go be an actress, so I want to like 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:57.360 you just living in your your life and then fame 0:50:57.480 --> 0:51:01.000 is put on put on you. Yeah, was it ever 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.120 any struggles with that or navigating that? 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:08.600 I guess navigating it just to figure out how I 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:11.680 wanted to like what my version of fame is. 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:15.360 Was a process. 0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:16.839 I don't. 0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.200 I'm gonna be honest. I think us starting in Ohio 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:26.360 was a blessing because I really feel like that is 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:28.600 what kept us super rounded in. 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.440 I don't even know. I don't even know even Miami. 0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.239 Miami was different, like that was the first time that 0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:38.000 either one of us had left home. 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:42.399 That was an experience I could imagine Miami, I know, 0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:48.720 going on here. But yeah, but you know how stayed 0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:53.400 in toast Does that make you closer when you're like. 0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.239 For sure like being able to go to I mean 0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:59.640 the markets that we are in the market that we're 0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:01.800 in now, in the market that we were in in Miami, 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:05.160 it's like if you don't have each other and standing 0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:07.520 like together through this, like it's going. 0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.719 To go to shit, Like this is not gonna be good. 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:12.640 Yeah, So we did come closer in that time just 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:14.000 because we knew what it was. 0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:16.440 It's too much attention or too much. 0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.200 I think it was all the things, all the things 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.240 so much more access. I mean, we were in Cleveland, 0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:23.839 like much going on in Cleveland. I love, I love 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:26.440 where I'm from I'm from Accro, But you know, it's 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.080 just slow and it's it's you know, manageable. 0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:32.279 Yeah, it's not that Miami is not so much. 0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:37.040 No, so everywhere, it's everywhere, every every corner you turn. 0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:41.840 So being able to be grounded in our home and 0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:46.120 then in our relationship definitely helped. Yeah. But I think 0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.200 for me, Miami is there was a transition that happened 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:54.640 to me in Miami personally, So I appreciate Miami for 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:56.879 what it had to offer for me during that time. 0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:00.120 Do you mean like young when you say transition. 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:02.719 Like going from I believe like a young girl to 0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:04.840 like a young like a young woman to a woman 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:06.000 in Miami. 0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.960 Were you Grays friends at that point? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're. 0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:12.279 Already Yeah, yeah, that was I got married there, ye 0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:15.879 proposed to there in Miami. Well, I didn't get married 0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:17.879 in Miami, but like we were living in Miami when 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:20.760 we got married, got it. So I think those those 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:23.880 transitions like helped. So it's just always kind of a 0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:24.960 special place for me. 0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:27.239 Can you tell me because told me the story of 0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.440 the reader, Can you tell me the story why was 0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:33.240 he involved or at your engagement so involved in your engagement. 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:39.520 I mean always the thing is happening by happenstance, he 0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:42.120 was involved. Tell me, tell me about this engagement and 0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:43.319 why was there. 0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:47.399 So we were at a New Year's Eve party at 0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.279 the Shelbourne or the Short Clubs, one of them, one 0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:54.719 of them hotels in Miami, and it was like this 0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:57.520 whole thing. I was getting dressed with Gabrielle that day 0:53:57.640 --> 0:53:59.840 and I wanted to wear this black dress and this 0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:04.000 hot pink lipstick, and Cab is like, I don't think 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:05.920 you should wear that lipstick. And I'm like, girl, I've 0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:06.800 been looking at this lipstick. 0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:10.799 I'm wearing this liftick. So she's like, okay, knowing yes, 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:13.840 she knew yes. So we're at the party. 0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:20.160 Countdown happened, a girl's girl, come the countdown happens. 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.160 Happy New Year. We come back. 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:24.919 I'm on my phone texting like all my people Happy 0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:27.400 New Year or whatever, and Lebron is behind me, tapping 0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:30.520 me on my shoulder, like just tapping. I'm like, hold up, 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.600 So somebody on this side of me, because like now 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:38.320 it's like a like a crowd. So somebody says, Savannah, 0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:41.080 turn around, and I turned around and he was on 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:46.200 his be Oh my god, mind you Miami was it was. 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:50.600 It was a time. So in that instance, I was like, 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:51.479 oh my god. 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:53.520 So I just busted out crying and he did his 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:55.799 speech and put the bring on and I say yes, 0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:58.720 and he like, okay, go get yourself together because. 0:54:58.520 --> 0:54:59.280 You're looking crazy. 0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:00.319 I was all. 0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:03.440 The pink. It was awful. 0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:04.880 I wish I never would have Warren that lipstick. I 0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:05.799 should have listened to Gap. 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:11.880 But I go in the bathroom and the doors are closed, 0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:13.719 like locked. So I'm like, they're like knocking, like can 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:14.440 we please get in here? 0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:16.319 Please get in here? And Joe opened up the door 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:19.960 like oh oh oh. 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.240 Because I'm balling like he don't know what to say, 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:25.480 so they're like, oh, she just got proposed to. 0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:28.600 So he's like, oh, okay, you can come in. I'm sorry, congratulations. 0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:32.120 Does he know who you are or maybe you know? 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.879 But he was just like because I'm like, I look 0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:36.360 like something had happened something. 0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:39.640 Oh wait, is this like a public party, like in 0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:43.120 a club like mad People? It was here. It was 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:46.600 a curated party, public but public. He thought this was 0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:49.879 a good this was a good time. He thought, at 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.160 this public function, this is where I'm gonna do it. 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:54.400 This, this is all these years, because you have been together 0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:59.520 years at that point, right, ten years already, and he thought, 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:04.040 right now, this club in Miami with this pink lipstick on, 0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:10.760 I'm gonna get on his knee. So you had no idea, zero, 0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:13.600 no idea. Whoa, but you know what's gonna happen. Usually 0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:15.400 when you get engaged, you kind of know it. You 0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:15.839 didn't know. 0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:21.040 I didn't know. I had no idea. Really, yeah, you got. 0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:24.840 Me and then there was fed Joe in the bathroom 0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:27.400 and you were crying, balling. 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:30.399 He looked at me, like the hell, like the going 0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:31.719 over here like she just got engaged. 0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:35.080 You're like, oh oh oh, congratulations. And you had already 0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.520 had two of them already, you already had two kids. 0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:40.960 So what did that? What does that transition feel like 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:44.160 in that moment, like this marriage changed anything? Or I 0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:47.279 don't think so. Really you already committed in like a 0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:49.000 family unit. Yeah. 0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.239 Yeah, it's the only thing that happened is I said 0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:53.160 I wasn't having no more kids until we got married. 0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:55.600 It was it? Do you put that all down? That 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:59.520 was it? Yeah? The milk you bought the milk already. 0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:03.279 I'm not doing it to get. 0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:09.720 That that's amazing. Shout out to Joe that picture. 0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:16.080 I'm glad he does not have. That was crazy. How 0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:18.680 the Gab know in advance the whole plan. 0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:22.440 Lebron has spoken to d D Toe Gab. 0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:25.520 Gab was like my liaison for today, so I kind 0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.000 of hung with her all day. The guys had some 0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:30.920 kind of meeting or something practice or something, so I 0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:33.280 was basically with her shopping and doing all the things 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:35.440 and got to the hotel to get time. 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:38.880 It was so fun. Mimi was it seems like from 0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:42.200 the outside, you guys had like a I don't know, 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:46.200 it was Gab and Adrian Adrian and I don't know. 0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:49.080 It feels like a good wife crew. It was a 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:49.800 good wife girl. 0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.960 Very different from my experience that I had had before that, 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:54.560 very different. 0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:57.120 And I'm sure there's a unique way and that you 0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:59.520 guys have to show up for each other that only 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:00.080 you guys. 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:03.000 Understand for sure. Yeah, those girls are great. That was 0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:04.680 that was a part of that transition as well. 0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:07.200 Yeah, do you keep those friendships, the friendships. 0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:09.320 Like that not as close knit just because I mean, 0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:12.040 we didn't have a choice then, but we still definitely chat. 0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:16.160 But life at YEP and everybody's in different places now. 0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:19.840 Yeah, but I'm sure those bonds are forever, Yeah, forever. 0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:22.840 What a time? All right, we have a couple segments 0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:24.920 we gotta do. We're gonna do our little secretions of 0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:26.960 voice note and then like the bowl. And so when 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:30.040 you guys do your podcast, do you do like a 0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:32.040 whole bunch of like prep or do you guys just 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:36.720 get in the chair. So we're evolving. No prep. You 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:39.080 don't have cards when you do your pod? No, no, 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:41.240 we had we try cards. 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:44.080 One time we tried cards on the Boyfriend episode and 0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:44.800 it didn't works. 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:46.880 Savannah was like, you did not read your cards. 0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:49.520 I was like, I was just weird and I was nervous. 0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:53.320 No, we're we're prepping now because. 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:55.240 We always what was the boyfriend episode? 0:58:55.400 --> 0:59:01.800 We did Phantom Kay Sinnett, Lebron and Taco. It was 0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:11.520 so great. I think again another we're gonna do another one. 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:16.720 But I think just being able to hear from guys 0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:20.320 in their perspective around like dating and like how people 0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:23.400 see things. It's so wild, like when you really sit 0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:26.160 down and talk about it, it's just so many different perspectives. 0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:28.520 And we wanted guys from different age groups. 0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:32.080 So like Kai was on the younger side, Phantom younger side, 0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:36.120 Taco is in his thirties, Lebron obviously forty like so 0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.960 it was a lot of different perspectives, Like the younger 0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:41.800 guys talked more about dating, but also being in relationships. 0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:45.520 What you expect in partnership, how people view partnership like 0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:47.160 also wild. 0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.520 Interesting the evolution of partnership. 0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:54.520 Like sometimes pods though, too, they challenge you to talk 0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:58.320 about things that what didn't normally talk about, even with 0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:01.960 like your friends. Sometimes other people watch something and she'd 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.240 be like I didn't know. Yes, Like she'll watch my 1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:06.439 pot and she'll hear me talk about something and be like, yes, 1:00:06.560 --> 1:00:09.160 I didn't know that happened. I'm like, yeah, yeah, what 1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:13.440 do you mean? Yeah? I wondered, like, if you're interviewing 1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:17.280 your husband, does he say something that you're like absolutely 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:23.240 like running back? Yeah, I was like, you say, what 1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:25.960 did he say on the pod? That's surprised you? What's 1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:27.760 the feel? I mean, it's a clip now that's. 1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:31.680 Going here going viral about him saying where he is 1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:35.360 now at forty, he couldn't have a significant other that 1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:41.080 when he came home was on the couch and I'm like, yeah, 1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:45.720 I think that that was also news to me. Yeah, 1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:49.160 but also on the couch is not they clipped it up. 1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:50.560 That's the thing about like. 1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:54.840 He was talking about evolving and where where you are 1:00:55.000 --> 1:00:58.800 in life, but like what does that even mean if 1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:01.320 someone's a mom, No one is on the couch. But 1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:03.840 also then that's the thing, that's how they took it, 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:08.600 like Y's not working, Yeah, not working, not doing anything. 1:01:08.960 --> 1:01:12.880 But it's so crazy, like the opinions, and I don't 1:01:13.000 --> 1:01:15.959 I'm again don't pay a lot of things in his mind. 1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:17.919 So like she was like, did you see the e clip? 1:01:18.040 --> 1:01:18.480 I looked at it. 1:01:18.520 --> 1:01:21.520 I was like, and then the comments are crazy and 1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:24.560 it's so interesting, like we're just sitting around and doing shit, 1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:26.919 Like are you out of your fucking mind? Like that's 1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:30.760 the thing like, because somebody may be more reserved, is 1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:34.560 perceived as you're not doing anything, which is crazy to 1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:37.360 me because the people that are showing everything a lot 1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:38.800 of times we're not doing. 1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:40.240 What he MEANU, I didn't see the whole clip, but 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:42.600 did you mean like lazy somebody who was lazy or 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:46.520 somebody basically I mean he's up super early, like he 1:01:46.800 --> 1:01:49.919 well his work ethic is next level and I can't 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:50.840 even unmatched. 1:01:50.880 --> 1:01:53.760 Yes, sir, but again it's he. 1:01:53.760 --> 1:01:56.000 Has to be inspiring to wayes even somebody work with 1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:58.240 him or even as his wife, like watching somebody's work 1:01:58.240 --> 1:02:00.480 ethics very much so, but never get that before the 1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:02.480 sun comes up, You're not doing that. You're not that 1:02:02.520 --> 1:02:04.040 inspired me. 1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:07.160 I'm up at the crack of dawn. Like minute, I 1:02:07.200 --> 1:02:11.080 love the morning, love love. She like, I admire it. 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:12.960 I think it's amazing. You get a lot done, you 1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:14.360 use all of your hours. 1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:15.200 Yeah, it's great. 1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:17.880 She's like, don't call me, I'll be right here, Yes, 1:02:18.000 --> 1:02:21.080 right here, don't call me, but also doesn't feel bad 1:02:21.120 --> 1:02:23.320 about that, like she lives in her truth and you 1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:24.200 can live in your truth. 1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:24.960 Yeah, you know what I mean. 1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:29.160 But I think with this social media makes it everything 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:31.680 perceived in a certain type of way and allows you 1:02:31.720 --> 1:02:33.800 to perceive it how you wanted to be able to 1:02:34.040 --> 1:02:35.360 make your own notion about it. 1:02:35.440 --> 1:02:36.439 Yeah, and I think it's. 1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:38.480 A lot of misconceptions about stay at home mom's. 1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:40.560 Hey, guys, you ever sign up for a phone plan 1:02:40.680 --> 1:02:42.840 thinking wow, what a great price, and then a few 1:02:42.880 --> 1:02:46.000 months later it's like, surprise, your bill is higher. 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Customers will pay twenty five 1:03:21.680 --> 1:03:24.080 dollars a month as long as they remain active on 1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:26.840 the boost Unlimited plan. All right, are we ready for 1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:29.680 a voice note? This is our voice note section. Somebody 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:31.480 said a question. I don't know if it's for one 1:03:31.520 --> 1:03:33.800 of you or both of you, or it's presented by 1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:36.680 boost Mobile, and let's have it. 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:41.000 Hi, Savannah and April. My question for y'all is when 1:03:41.040 --> 1:03:43.840 do you tell your homegirl that you saw her man 1:03:44.640 --> 1:03:46.400 without her outside. 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:48.520 She's been dating this guy for like. 1:03:48.560 --> 1:03:52.200 Over a year, and I went to dinner and I 1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:54.920 saw him on what could have been a double date. 1:03:55.000 --> 1:03:58.520 It was him, another guy and two women. I literally 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:01.480 was walking by and saw them. Now, I don't like 1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:04.160 to give myself a mess. So do you think I 1:04:04.160 --> 1:04:08.800 should tell her or just kind of let the universe 1:04:08.840 --> 1:04:09.520 figure it out. 1:04:09.960 --> 1:04:12.040 I have this, I have an answer to this question also, 1:04:12.080 --> 1:04:14.600 But I'm curious to what you guys, what I know? 1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:17.240 I have this conversation with friends. This is a debate. 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:20.800 Actually you're getting this a video a snap before I 1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:25.120 leave the run, and I'm liable to walk to the table. 1:04:25.200 --> 1:04:28.200 Yeah, I was gonna say, use me, sir, are you okay? 1:04:28.680 --> 1:04:30.440 I'm not going to address it because you know, I'm 1:04:30.440 --> 1:04:32.040 gonna tell my friend. You know I'm gonna tell my friend. 1:04:32.040 --> 1:04:33.360 But I'm gonna roll up on you, like, hey, how 1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:33.680 you doing? 1:04:33.720 --> 1:04:36.320 Hey guys, are y'all okay? Good to see you? 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:42.440 Very nice and pleasant, the smilest a little bit more annoyed. 1:04:42.800 --> 1:04:46.320 But you're in front maybe like are you serious? 1:04:46.520 --> 1:04:47.960 What's happening? Are you okay? Yeah? 1:04:48.000 --> 1:04:49.000 Are you see? 1:04:49.000 --> 1:04:52.760 That's the difference between having no associates. I got all 1:04:52.800 --> 1:04:53.400 the same. 1:04:53.240 --> 1:04:53.960 Level of friends. 1:04:54.000 --> 1:04:58.200 We rided what is you doing? Sir, this is messy. Yeah, 1:04:58.560 --> 1:04:59.280 what's happening? 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:02.160 She You're gonna cook. 1:05:02.280 --> 1:05:06.919 And I'm gonna double date. 1:05:08.080 --> 1:05:10.440 This is interesting because I've had this conversation with my 1:05:10.440 --> 1:05:12.360 little crew of girls, and most of us feel the 1:05:12.400 --> 1:05:14.400 same way. It's two or three, then there's one of us, 1:05:15.080 --> 1:05:18.520 and it drives me nuts because we get into this argument. 1:05:18.600 --> 1:05:22.840 But she's like, her experience is that nine times out 1:05:22.880 --> 1:05:26.640 of ten say they're gonna stay. And now you're the 1:05:26.680 --> 1:05:30.120 friend who done inserted yourself into a problem in your 1:05:30.120 --> 1:05:34.240 friend's situation. Or the other part of it is that 1:05:34.360 --> 1:05:39.680 sometimes the friend knows what who she's with, and so 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:43.280 as a friend, why are you going? You know what 1:05:43.320 --> 1:05:45.200 I'm saying. So she feels like that, so she might 1:05:45.240 --> 1:05:47.720 minds her business. She doesn't say it couldn't be my friend. 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:51.600 She couldn't be your friend. You say that she cut 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:54.560 her off. She's really good, and many other ways. 1:05:54.560 --> 1:05:56.920 It's very nice. It's good for you, I'm very happy 1:05:56.960 --> 1:05:57.200 for you. 1:05:57.400 --> 1:06:01.160 I'm good my friend. No, I'm not seeing how to 1:06:01.160 --> 1:06:02.320 cut her off. It's good for you. 1:06:02.560 --> 1:06:03.560 It does not work for me. 1:06:03.720 --> 1:06:03.840 Here. 1:06:04.080 --> 1:06:06.160 You see some stuff there it's not kosher, and you 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:09.480 don't feel to say something and that is where her 1:06:09.720 --> 1:06:13.480 her her feeling comes from, her feeling like she's going 1:06:13.560 --> 1:06:16.360 to be excluded if she gives her honest opinion. 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:20.880 Y'all not friends. That's how I feel, like what I 1:06:20.920 --> 1:06:21.320 saw your. 1:06:21.280 --> 1:06:26.080 Man out like, no, I'm sorry, I just I feel 1:06:26.080 --> 1:06:29.200 convicted about it because I think that's crazy that you know, 1:06:29.320 --> 1:06:30.120 and what if one. 1:06:30.000 --> 1:06:32.320 Day we're out from the restaurant. 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:35.760 Oh no, I'm texting, like the fuck and then I'm 1:06:35.800 --> 1:06:38.200 saying something. Then I'm walking out the restaurant like bitch. 1:06:38.200 --> 1:06:41.120 I went up to the table. I told that, like, 1:06:41.720 --> 1:06:44.720 I'm running it down. I'm the last person you want 1:06:44.760 --> 1:06:48.560 to see. So you are not confrontational though I'm not 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:54.520 gonna roll up and make a scene. He's calling you, and. 1:06:55.280 --> 1:06:58.400 She's calling the friend the restaurant, immediate. 1:06:59.520 --> 1:07:03.360 Text whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna we were 1:07:03.400 --> 1:07:04.280 about that life. 1:07:05.120 --> 1:07:06.320 I love that for you. 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:08.560 Yeah, I just feel like that is the right way 1:07:08.600 --> 1:07:11.320 to be with friends, Like why not disclosed? 1:07:11.360 --> 1:07:15.080 I agree, well, and it's okay if you stay. 1:07:15.000 --> 1:07:17.760 No, No, I agree, But I do think I'm a 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:19.480 little different that. I do think there are levels of 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:21.600 friends because I have a lot of people that I know, 1:07:22.280 --> 1:07:26.400 you know, what I'm saying. I know y'all, but we're not. Yeah. No, 1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:29.840 you have either all the way friends or we're all nothing. 1:07:29.960 --> 1:07:32.120 You know everything about me, or you'll know nothing. 1:07:32.480 --> 1:07:32.920 Got it? 1:07:33.400 --> 1:07:38.200 Like I'm good, there's no no how can you show 1:07:38.280 --> 1:07:39.360 up half yourself. 1:07:39.880 --> 1:07:41.880 It's like that you just meet people along the way 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:44.280 and you really like them and you you have a 1:07:44.400 --> 1:07:46.240 rappoort and you see them and it's cool and you've 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:49.200 hung out a few times. And I'm not telling that 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:51.320 person about her business with her man and nothing. 1:07:51.360 --> 1:07:53.760 I'm not hanging out a few times with nobody. I 1:07:53.800 --> 1:07:55.800 don't really kind of know you're not hanging out of. 1:07:57.520 --> 1:07:58.240 I'll be like, what's. 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:00.840 Happening over there? I'm not coming. I don't want to 1:08:00.840 --> 1:08:04.800 be there, Like I'm just not doing it. It's no 1:08:04.880 --> 1:08:05.720 in between for me. 1:08:06.280 --> 1:08:08.680 I don't believe you. There's no way ask. 1:08:08.520 --> 1:08:12.880 Her believe, please believe, please really believe it. 1:08:13.000 --> 1:08:15.480 No middle, no acquaintances people, just. 1:08:15.480 --> 1:08:18.599 Because it's just also like I'm not for everybody, just 1:08:18.640 --> 1:08:21.640 like you're not supposed to be for everybody. Everybody's not 1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:24.320 for everybody. Everybody doesn't have to like you. So like 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:27.240 I'm not going to censor myself in a situation where 1:08:27.680 --> 1:08:28.519 and I see a. 1:08:28.479 --> 1:08:31.320 Lot, I'm around a lot, I'm privy to a lot. 1:08:31.560 --> 1:08:32.200 I'm a volt. 1:08:32.479 --> 1:08:34.439 So I need to be in a place where I 1:08:34.439 --> 1:08:38.839 feel like I can actually have real conversation that feeds 1:08:38.880 --> 1:08:40.840 me and I feed you, and I can be my 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:43.200 real self. I don't want to be somewhere guessing. If 1:08:43.240 --> 1:08:45.120 I could say this, and now you talk about you 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:48.200 don't text it, your friend, your friend coming back, girl, goodbye. 1:08:48.280 --> 1:08:50.240 I ain't got no time for me. I just I'm 1:08:50.280 --> 1:08:54.160 too busy. So like censoring myself in certain rooms, if 1:08:54.160 --> 1:08:56.400 I'm not talking, that means I don't know nobody there, 1:08:56.520 --> 1:08:57.280 and I'm good. 1:08:59.080 --> 1:09:01.360 I'm not the same. I'm not that harsh. 1:09:01.400 --> 1:09:04.799 I allow, like if a connection is meant to happen, 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:08.080 I allowed that. He was like, I've recently made really 1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:10.400 great friends, really just because I was a little more 1:09:10.439 --> 1:09:11.559 open open. 1:09:12.520 --> 1:09:17.759 She's jolly well, she also was so guarded for so long. Yes, 1:09:17.960 --> 1:09:20.200 so now you probably trust yourself a little bit more, right, 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:23.639 a lot more. Yeah. So they're red flags for people 1:09:23.640 --> 1:09:26.200 who we need to not let in the circle. Because 1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:29.160 we talked about red flags with dating or relationships, Yes, 1:09:29.240 --> 1:09:32.960 but what about friend red flags? Are their friendship red 1:09:33.120 --> 1:09:33.799 red flags. 1:09:33.880 --> 1:09:36.560 I think you can engage with people that are like fans. 1:09:37.280 --> 1:09:41.360 Oh I can't stand it. Oh my god, I'm no, 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:43.320 Oh my god, no, oh I. 1:09:43.320 --> 1:09:45.760 Can't even So another red flag for you would be 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:48.280 like if they feel like they wouldn't tell you if 1:09:48.320 --> 1:09:50.240 they saw your man, that would be a flag for you. 1:09:50.439 --> 1:09:53.320 Yes, yeah, that's a character flag to me. 1:09:53.800 --> 1:09:54.240 Interesting. 1:09:54.280 --> 1:09:59.639 That's like going back to transparency on radical honesty. Are 1:09:59.640 --> 1:10:01.880 you d honest or do you want to hold some 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:06.160 of the information. The most eloquent way of lying is 1:10:06.680 --> 1:10:10.679 not saying anything when people be like, oh, I ain't 1:10:10.680 --> 1:10:14.479 say nothing, Okay, I was sitting there the whole time 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:16.960 at the dinner table knowing this man's in a relationship. 1:10:17.600 --> 1:10:20.080 Like I just think that that is formal. Ok. It's 1:10:20.120 --> 1:10:22.639 so interesting. You made me think about myself now because 1:10:22.640 --> 1:10:25.479 I be minding my business. Sometimes I mind my business too, 1:10:25.479 --> 1:10:27.080 but don't let me hear you know with my friends, 1:10:27.080 --> 1:10:30.000 I mind my business because I'm gonna see you through 1:10:30.040 --> 1:10:31.920 this and I'll wait till you get to the other side. 1:10:33.040 --> 1:10:34.679 But it's like a level of how much I want 1:10:34.680 --> 1:10:37.960 to interject with what I think I saw, what I saw, 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:39.519 what I feel about what I saw. 1:10:40.680 --> 1:10:42.840 When you know all that already, I feel like it 1:10:43.040 --> 1:10:46.120 just is Yeah, I don't think it's inserting yourself. You 1:10:46.120 --> 1:10:48.400 can still support your friend and be like, listen, I 1:10:48.439 --> 1:10:51.400 don't like how this made you feel, but I'm gonna 1:10:51.400 --> 1:10:53.439 support you. I feel like I can talk like that. 1:10:53.600 --> 1:10:55.400 I'm not like judge on it. 1:10:56.080 --> 1:10:58.400 But when it starts going over the line. We were 1:10:58.400 --> 1:11:00.840 talking about this yesterday. I was like, if you were 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:03.280 walking down the street in the car last night at 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:04.360 eleven o'clock. 1:11:04.040 --> 1:11:04.799 That's what I asked. 1:11:05.479 --> 1:11:08.840 Quiz Yes, she gave you a quizit, yes, yes, test 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:12.760 my morals. I said, I'm sleepy and we're driving down 1:11:12.800 --> 1:11:14.920 the street and we saw a lady getting beat up. 1:11:15.120 --> 1:11:17.240 What would you do? Right? 1:11:17.479 --> 1:11:20.400 And so she was like what I was like, if 1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:22.200 we saw somebody beating up, what would you do? 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:26.600 She was like, well, I would be like. 1:11:25.240 --> 1:11:29.120 Like trying to get what if he was really beating her? 1:11:29.600 --> 1:11:32.680 She like, I'm gonna call the cops. I'm like, I 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:35.360 don't know. I think I may have to jump in, like. 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:40.160 You know you can't and I can't help you. 1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:42.040 But then then she gave her a video. ILL say, 1:11:42.040 --> 1:11:43.320 all right, right, I'm ana call the cops. I'm a 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:45.240 corner cops. I'm gonna stay there. I ain't gonna leave 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:48.840 her because she's getting beaten up. But to me, I 1:11:48.880 --> 1:11:51.840 think it is a morality, cause like it's it's the 1:11:52.200 --> 1:11:55.400 this or that on how you view things, and it 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:58.120 can be multiple opinions on how people decide to show up. 1:11:58.160 --> 1:12:00.639 It doesn't make them a bad person though, just different, 1:12:00.800 --> 1:12:03.559 just different. But I know what kind of friend that want. 1:12:03.680 --> 1:12:05.519 So what were you gonna do? You're gonna stay and 1:12:05.560 --> 1:12:08.679 fight At first, I was gonna fight. She was gonna 1:12:08.680 --> 1:12:13.040 fight down, and nobody there to help either one of us. 1:12:12.960 --> 1:12:20.519 Know, kill that man, that's why everybody need a friend. 1:12:20.600 --> 1:12:22.759 Like man, I was like, I. 1:12:22.640 --> 1:12:25.240 Was gonna kill his feeling, Well, we were gonna die, 1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:27.679 like like we. 1:12:27.560 --> 1:12:29.559 Were like, and this is somebody that you don't even know, right, 1:12:29.800 --> 1:12:32.800 It was just a what if in your mind, like 1:12:32.840 --> 1:12:34.200 this is a stranger street. 1:12:34.320 --> 1:12:35.800 So she's like, we don't even know her. 1:12:36.000 --> 1:12:38.880 I was like, I know, but it's just wrong, like 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:44.960 that man, gonna beating both for so you because now 1:12:45.520 --> 1:12:47.840 this is where it goes, because now if she jump 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:52.400 in and I gotta jump in, don't jump in. 1:12:53.960 --> 1:12:58.160 That you guys have a plan in the event plan 1:12:58.760 --> 1:13:02.000 don't jump in because she wants to jump in. Call 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:06.800 the cops. Ready, We're ready. I think I would call 1:13:06.840 --> 1:13:10.160 the cops and I would try to create some type 1:13:10.160 --> 1:13:10.920 of diversion. 1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:18.519 Yes, it's like, yeah, maybe I would throw said. 1:13:22.720 --> 1:13:24.120 Literally said I would throw something. 1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:27.120 But I think it's like a morality. It doesn't you 1:13:27.160 --> 1:13:29.679 know how you how would you deal with certain things? 1:13:29.840 --> 1:13:32.639 That's a good one. What else? 1:13:33.600 --> 1:13:37.040 I was like, girl, what she was like around the 1:13:37.040 --> 1:13:39.120 house talking about we rid in the card? But I 1:13:39.160 --> 1:13:40.240 saw somebody walk out. 1:13:40.120 --> 1:13:41.920 Said what is She's the one that made you do 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:45.400 this other quiz too that you did at the house, right, Yes, yeah, 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:46.360 because I want to know. 1:13:46.560 --> 1:13:47.360 I'm curious. 1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:49.519 Hey, guys. Support for this podcast is brought to you 1:13:49.560 --> 1:13:53.240 by Walden University. Have you ever thought to yourself, what 1:13:53.320 --> 1:13:56.080 if I could go after what I actually want and 1:13:56.120 --> 1:13:59.200 I could really make a difference. Well, you are not alone, 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:00.880 and this is exactly why I want to tell you 1:14:00.960 --> 1:14:04.320 about Walden University. 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Oh? 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:49.000 Can I know another one? 1:14:49.160 --> 1:14:55.120 Yes? All right? Oh no, No, she didn't like that. 1:14:55.880 --> 1:14:57.320 I feel like we talked about that a lot. 1:14:57.400 --> 1:15:03.240 Anyway, lately, I've been reminding myself that it's okay to 1:15:03.280 --> 1:15:04.560 be big m. 1:15:05.680 --> 1:15:07.760 Did you not feel like I feel like your personality 1:15:08.280 --> 1:15:11.800 lends to that answered you started that whole podcast here. 1:15:12.960 --> 1:15:15.320 No, I think I came up in it. 1:15:15.439 --> 1:15:18.680 I came up in an industry where being behind the 1:15:18.720 --> 1:15:22.040 scenes was rewarded, especially as a female, and just like 1:15:22.400 --> 1:15:27.680 making it all happen was how I was celebrated. And 1:15:27.720 --> 1:15:31.639 I think being in front of the camera and thinking 1:15:31.640 --> 1:15:34.719 about all the things that we're building and like owning 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:40.360 that has been a real pivot for me personally. And 1:15:40.439 --> 1:15:43.000 I think even though going back to what people see 1:15:43.120 --> 1:15:46.720 and what they believe. Like, I am very confident in 1:15:46.760 --> 1:15:49.000 who I am, like innately, I've always been like that 1:15:49.040 --> 1:15:52.479 since I was small, But I think being big has 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:57.200 another type of responsibility that I've kind of like like 1:15:57.280 --> 1:15:59.439 for Up until this point, we were saying the pod 1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:01.720 was like a high, it's a hobby. 1:16:01.479 --> 1:16:03.040 Like you didn't want to claim it like. 1:16:03.360 --> 1:16:06.760 No, because I think when you work hard and you've 1:16:06.760 --> 1:16:10.920 been raised to work hard, I think more responsibility feels 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:15.800 like like it doesn't have to feel like that if 1:16:15.800 --> 1:16:17.920 you have the right team around you and the right 1:16:17.960 --> 1:16:20.400 people around you. And I think we're finally at a 1:16:20.439 --> 1:16:23.240 point where we feel like we're supported in that way. 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:25.920 I'm sure you feel like that too. You that's probably 1:16:25.920 --> 1:16:30.120 why you guys connect so much in business aside from friendship. Yes, 1:16:30.439 --> 1:16:35.839 you both kind of like blossoming into this elevated version 1:16:36.000 --> 1:16:36.200 of it. 1:16:36.320 --> 1:16:39.240 I feel like we're growing into something that we have 1:16:39.400 --> 1:16:40.720 not yet imagined. 1:16:41.000 --> 1:16:43.720 Yeah, I feel like that too. I don't. I don't 1:16:43.720 --> 1:16:45.400 think that. I don't know. I feel like at every 1:16:45.439 --> 1:16:49.600 stage or every age, like always trying to push ourselves 1:16:49.600 --> 1:16:52.400 to Yeah, there's always another level, right, there's always a 1:16:52.479 --> 1:16:53.360 level that But. 1:16:53.280 --> 1:16:55.519 I think as a young girl, you think you get married, 1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:57.400 you have a family, you pick a career, and it's 1:16:57.439 --> 1:17:00.200 like WHOA, I made it, and then you're like, on 1:17:00.280 --> 1:17:02.639 a second, this shit's about to change again and again 1:17:02.800 --> 1:17:06.320 and again. And I think that that is something young 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:09.000 women should know, Like if you learn how to pivot early, 1:17:09.280 --> 1:17:13.599 it won't feel so debilitating. M Like, if you could 1:17:13.800 --> 1:17:16.680 pivot quicker and not be so stuck on like I'm 1:17:16.680 --> 1:17:18.479 gonna have this career, I'm gonna marry this man. I'm 1:17:18.479 --> 1:17:20.120 gonna be married by this time. I'm gonna have a 1:17:20.120 --> 1:17:23.040 baby here. Like it doesn't work like that, Like, but 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:25.160 I think when we were coming up, it was like 1:17:25.880 --> 1:17:29.080 that was what you did, you know, And now young 1:17:29.120 --> 1:17:32.600 women are doing things differently and really embracing that and 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:34.719 it doesn't have to look how you imagine? 1:17:35.360 --> 1:17:38.120 H Do you still have those thoughts? So yoursel like, 1:17:38.640 --> 1:17:40.080 I don't want to get too much in your business. 1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:43.920 You're single or yes? Single? Mmm? Are you in the 1:17:44.520 --> 1:17:48.160 are you out here looking around? I'm not looking around? 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:53.599 No, I would like to I'm trying. 1:17:54.160 --> 1:17:56.240 She don't try to be a matchmaker over here. You 1:17:56.320 --> 1:18:00.240 probably had no friends. That would be a good no. 1:18:00.120 --> 1:18:04.760 No, no, No, I think I think we all run 1:18:04.800 --> 1:18:06.000 in a very small circle. 1:18:07.720 --> 1:18:11.320 Ye, like and it have been I think, yeah, I 1:18:11.320 --> 1:18:11.640 don't know. 1:18:11.720 --> 1:18:14.040 I'm open to it, but I think it is a 1:18:14.160 --> 1:18:17.760 level of like, you know, that protection factor that I 1:18:17.840 --> 1:18:21.440 operate in and trying to be open in one area 1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:25.479 but also being mindful of letting people in and the 1:18:25.560 --> 1:18:26.080 right people. 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:28.559 So are we supposed to pick it out? 1:18:29.760 --> 1:18:32.400 She wanted to picked you pick? Did you did it? 1:18:35.160 --> 1:18:36.880 All right? Go to another one? Fine? One? 1:18:38.280 --> 1:18:41.120 We both answering this, all right, I love that. Don't 1:18:41.120 --> 1:18:45.839 be scared, trust me, Okay, all right? First one value 1:18:45.920 --> 1:18:48.160 you think we're losing as a society. 1:18:53.160 --> 1:19:02.639 What you have to say? Yeah, say it? I feel 1:19:02.640 --> 1:19:04.240 like I do. I don't know. 1:19:05.560 --> 1:19:10.320 Honesty mm hmm. I really think we are missing honesty. 1:19:11.160 --> 1:19:13.640 Like I think a lot of times people are fearful 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:17.720 of being honest about what they're fearful of. And I 1:19:17.800 --> 1:19:20.519 just think people are shy away a lot of times 1:19:20.520 --> 1:19:23.519 from honesty of like hurting people's feelings or being true 1:19:23.560 --> 1:19:26.720 to themselves or doing what the world wants them to 1:19:26.760 --> 1:19:29.840 do and not being their real self, and like, just 1:19:30.040 --> 1:19:33.320 do you and just be honest. And I wish people 1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:36.320 would get it together and Instagram is not real. People 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:39.880 be swearing. I'm like, are you people okay? This is 1:19:40.120 --> 1:19:40.599 like a sham. 1:19:40.720 --> 1:19:44.440 It's one piece of It's like one sliver of a narrative. 1:19:44.720 --> 1:19:49.720 And it's the most inflated narrative, Like you know what 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:52.479 I mean. And then when you show your real self, 1:19:53.280 --> 1:19:57.080 the world wants to judge. But like if people would 1:19:57.080 --> 1:20:02.800 just vaccine instead of worrying about somebody priding on that 1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:05.600 Internet or whatever, and focus on yourself. 1:20:10.600 --> 1:20:12.519 Wishing one word, come on, give it to mine. 1:20:12.479 --> 1:20:16.320 Was gonna be authenticity, Like even as a business owner 1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:21.040 now and understanding the importance of like doing what is 1:20:21.120 --> 1:20:25.640 authentically like solid to you, I don't. I think a 1:20:25.640 --> 1:20:27.160 lot of people do things cause they feel like they 1:20:27.200 --> 1:20:30.200 have to, and I think that goes right back to honesty. 1:20:30.439 --> 1:20:34.680 But I think authenticity is a value that be you 1:20:34.680 --> 1:20:34.880 know what. 1:20:34.880 --> 1:20:37.040 I'm curious. This is one of my IRL questions to hear. 1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:40.519 I like this for you because you know, we always 1:20:40.560 --> 1:20:42.320 ask like what are you most proud of, like in 1:20:42.360 --> 1:20:44.960 your career or as a mom, what are you most 1:20:45.000 --> 1:20:50.360 proud of about yourself and what you've been able to doing. 1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:54.400 Honestly, the biggest compliment that I get is when people 1:20:54.400 --> 1:20:57.720 come to me and tell me how great my kids are, Like, 1:20:58.280 --> 1:21:00.400 I'm so proud of the people that they are and 1:21:00.439 --> 1:21:02.320 who they've become and the way that they've been able 1:21:02.360 --> 1:21:03.280 to handle. 1:21:04.880 --> 1:21:05.400 Everything. 1:21:05.880 --> 1:21:09.280 Like we've been through some things, and I just think 1:21:09.400 --> 1:21:12.400 that they have. I mean, they've done an amazing job 1:21:12.560 --> 1:21:14.760 with all of it given the circumstance. 1:21:14.840 --> 1:21:19.280 So I'm most proud of who I've. 1:21:19.120 --> 1:21:19.920 Been able to. 1:21:21.360 --> 1:21:26.120 Support in their growth and just becoming who they are 1:21:26.160 --> 1:21:28.080 as young men and now a little lady. 1:21:29.080 --> 1:21:31.920 So you're very, very proud of that. You're a good mom, great, 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:37.120 killing it the best, the best mom. What about as 1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:39.880 a wife, especially such a high profile wife, Like what 1:21:39.920 --> 1:21:42.120 are you most proud of in that space? 1:21:42.560 --> 1:21:45.599 Just being able to and I know this might sound crazy, 1:21:46.240 --> 1:21:50.400 but being able to understand the situation for what it 1:21:50.439 --> 1:21:52.640 is as far as how I showed up being a 1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:56.200 support system to him, Like I was totally okay with 1:21:56.400 --> 1:21:58.759 the way that things have panned out up until this point, 1:21:59.000 --> 1:22:03.080 being sportive to him, being able to be there for him, 1:22:03.120 --> 1:22:05.240 being able to pick him up when he's not feeling good, 1:22:05.400 --> 1:22:08.200 Like I was okay with being in the background and 1:22:08.240 --> 1:22:10.080 doing those things. So that he was able to do 1:22:10.280 --> 1:22:14.120 exactly what he wanted to do in that space. So there, 1:22:14.280 --> 1:22:16.880 I'm most proud of that, as far as being a 1:22:17.000 --> 1:22:18.760 wife and his wife. 1:22:18.479 --> 1:22:21.759 And support system. What about this pod and what you're creating? 1:22:21.800 --> 1:22:25.400 What are you guys most proud of about this, this business? This? 1:22:28.680 --> 1:22:32.800 I feel like I'm most proud of stepping into what 1:22:32.960 --> 1:22:36.920 we have been shying away from, you know, and really 1:22:36.960 --> 1:22:42.479 owning it, and I think also being authentically ourselves. Like 1:22:42.600 --> 1:22:46.200 I think there is a lot of misconceptions about being 1:22:46.200 --> 1:22:50.080 an entrepreneur, building something, being in friendship with each other. 1:22:51.360 --> 1:22:53.759 So I think I'm most proud of just being able 1:22:54.160 --> 1:22:58.200 to own it for once, and also proud to put 1:22:58.240 --> 1:23:00.840 a team around us that is helping us to do it, 1:23:01.520 --> 1:23:04.680 which allows us to be more visionary in building it, 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:07.720 which is exciting, and also commit to the pod and 1:23:07.760 --> 1:23:12.440 commit to using our voices and commit to being comfortable 1:23:12.520 --> 1:23:13.720 with being uncomfortable. 1:23:13.880 --> 1:23:15.200 I just want to go through my last cards and 1:23:15.240 --> 1:23:16.840 then we're done, and maybe I'm going to ask you 1:23:16.880 --> 1:23:19.240 my one favorite question in the ball for both. Okay, 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:22.080 you probably have probably know that one. Okay, we've been 1:23:22.120 --> 1:23:24.160 talking a lot about the like the inner workings of 1:23:24.200 --> 1:23:26.760 your friendship and this like space that you created, but 1:23:26.840 --> 1:23:29.559 you also both live in a very big space. 1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:31.280 Yes, very big. 1:23:31.439 --> 1:23:35.639 You didn't you do? You did Drake's thirtieth birthday party? 1:23:35.680 --> 1:23:38.200 You plan that for him? Yes, that's a big that's 1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:43.160 a big, high profile, lots of a lot of moments. Yeah, 1:23:43.280 --> 1:23:44.880 how does that even happen? Or did you work for 1:23:44.960 --> 1:23:46.639 Drake or you know, I don't work for Jake. 1:23:46.680 --> 1:23:47.679 I never worked for Drake. 1:23:47.800 --> 1:23:50.000 You never worked for Drake? And you do the thirtieth Well. 1:23:49.960 --> 1:23:51.559 He hired my agency, got it? 1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:55.040 So I think, how does I go to see call? No, 1:23:55.120 --> 1:23:55.639 he doesn't call. 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:58.800 Future calls, Future calls, Future is grace, Future is the best. 1:23:58.880 --> 1:24:03.439 Yeah, Future Drake and I've been doing a couple of 1:24:03.479 --> 1:24:06.439 things with them. A lot of people don't know context, 1:24:06.520 --> 1:24:09.519 But I own a creative agency. It does experiential and 1:24:09.560 --> 1:24:13.559 creative campaigns for brands. So it started because we did 1:24:14.240 --> 1:24:15.760 it was called two Kings. 1:24:16.360 --> 1:24:19.320 It was Drake and Lebron at. 1:24:19.600 --> 1:24:23.559 All Star in Toronto and we did something called the 1:24:23.560 --> 1:24:25.799 House of Tings with beats. 1:24:25.800 --> 1:24:29.120 It was oh my God. And we transformed all. 1:24:29.000 --> 1:24:32.880 Of these rooms into like little immersive rooms. 1:24:32.880 --> 1:24:35.200 So we had trapped karaoke We had a room with 1:24:35.280 --> 1:24:39.160 an owl that opened up like a live owl. 1:24:39.280 --> 1:24:41.679 We had David Blaine in a room we. 1:24:42.120 --> 1:24:44.880 Got we had enough of them money. 1:24:45.080 --> 1:24:46.960 Yes, it was like all these little rooms and you 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:49.320 went into this like house of tings and it was crazy. 1:24:49.320 --> 1:24:50.959 It was freezing cold in Toronto. 1:24:51.400 --> 1:24:54.080 So it started there and then over time I just 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:57.400 built a relationship with future and team and they were amazing. 1:24:57.439 --> 1:25:00.160 They were amazing and I just did his thirty if. 1:25:00.160 --> 1:25:01.680 They called and was like can you do it? It's 1:25:01.680 --> 1:25:02.360 going to be in l A. 1:25:02.479 --> 1:25:05.320 And I was like, I got it, And. 1:25:04.680 --> 1:25:08.920 I mean it feels like years ago, I mean thirty 1:25:09.040 --> 1:25:10.200 nine something like that. 1:25:10.360 --> 1:25:14.479 Yeah, maybe, but it was awesome. What about your big 1:25:14.479 --> 1:25:17.040 wow moments? First of all, the mean gala is a 1:25:17.080 --> 1:25:21.880 wow moments for you? What is that? What is that experience? 1:25:22.000 --> 1:25:23.160 Like stressful? 1:25:24.880 --> 1:25:27.240 It was so much prep and just like it was 1:25:27.280 --> 1:25:29.479 my first time, so it was making sure I got 1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:30.000 it right. 1:25:30.240 --> 1:25:33.000 It was a pressure a little bit. That's a big carpet. 1:25:33.120 --> 1:25:36.200 That's a big carpet, A big carpet. What is the prep? 1:25:36.240 --> 1:25:37.840 What is the what is what goes into this? 1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:42.479 Just a just a look the look it's the most like, yeah, 1:25:42.640 --> 1:25:44.760 the look it came together. 1:25:44.600 --> 1:25:46.600 Body of look though, you have a couple of like 1:25:47.720 --> 1:25:50.880 iconic look moments, we should flash those as we're mentioning 1:25:50.920 --> 1:25:53.240 that right now. Just let the people do that do that. 1:25:54.240 --> 1:25:55.400 But yeah, it was great. 1:25:56.200 --> 1:26:01.639 The theme with being I can't Taylor, I can't think 1:26:01.640 --> 1:26:02.040 of the thing. 1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:04.400 Oh the theme, Yeah, it was like. 1:26:06.840 --> 1:26:09.120 Yes, yes, And then it was tailor to Perfection or 1:26:09.120 --> 1:26:12.519 something like that. So the process of trying to find 1:26:12.520 --> 1:26:15.240 a designer for that was kind of like like what 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:18.360 do I do? And then I wanted to make sure 1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:21.559 I had a black designer. So I'm like, well, I 1:26:21.600 --> 1:26:22.880 wonder if Pidneva would do it. 1:26:23.280 --> 1:26:24.640 And she did it. She killed it. 1:26:24.680 --> 1:26:26.479 We had a great time. It was so much fun 1:26:26.520 --> 1:26:27.719 working with her and her team. 1:26:28.320 --> 1:26:30.040 Or events like that. Fun though you always think like 1:26:30.120 --> 1:26:31.519 is it really fun when you get there? 1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:35.799 So I was actually so I was okay. 1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:37.320 I was there because I was supposed to be there, 1:26:38.000 --> 1:26:40.439 but I was a plus one because Lebron was a chair. 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:44.280 He was a co chair for that particular Matt and 1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:45.920 he couldn't make it because they were in the postseason. 1:26:46.000 --> 1:26:49.400 So I still went in support to be there for him. 1:26:49.400 --> 1:26:51.439 But also because she was supposed to because I was 1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:51.920 supposed to. 1:26:53.560 --> 1:26:57.080 But it is a room and like I said, like 1:26:57.320 --> 1:27:00.240 I don't typically like deal in like. 1:27:02.479 --> 1:27:04.840 I guess rooms like that, Like that's just not my 1:27:04.880 --> 1:27:05.479 comfort zone. 1:27:05.560 --> 1:27:07.640 And if you do, you're usually with your husband. 1:27:07.560 --> 1:27:09.679 With my husband, or with a friend or just somebody 1:27:09.680 --> 1:27:11.720 as an ally. You know, they don't play that like 1:27:13.400 --> 1:27:17.000 nobody you're taking yourself. So it was just interesting. I 1:27:17.000 --> 1:27:20.680 actually sat with Debbie Allen, and I had met her 1:27:21.320 --> 1:27:25.320 in La my daughter went to her dance academy, and 1:27:25.360 --> 1:27:27.120 so I just found an ally in her and her. 1:27:27.040 --> 1:27:28.519 Husband and I sat there and talked to them. So 1:27:28.560 --> 1:27:29.040 it was great. 1:27:29.720 --> 1:27:34.639 And Tyler Perry was my seat mate, yeah. 1:27:34.479 --> 1:27:35.559 And chatted with him. 1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:37.800 I was cool, told him how much I love all 1:27:37.880 --> 1:27:41.120 of his movies, And it was a great experience. My 1:27:41.200 --> 1:27:44.360 dress was so heavy, though, my hips were so sorely 1:27:44.760 --> 1:27:46.720 because I don't know if people know, but when you walk, 1:27:46.800 --> 1:27:48.719 the carpet is long, and there're stairs on the carpet, 1:27:49.240 --> 1:27:50.880 so you gotta get up those stairs. But once you 1:27:50.880 --> 1:27:53.120 get in the museum, there's like four more flights of 1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:57.400 stairs and a country mile to get to where the actual. 1:28:00.640 --> 1:28:02.519 And this dress is like forty pounds. I was. 1:28:02.720 --> 1:28:03.200 I was done. 1:28:04.520 --> 1:28:06.560 I was good, but I did it, and you look gorgeous. 1:28:06.640 --> 1:28:07.479 Thank you so much. 1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:09.800 Those moments must feel like because you don't do that 1:28:09.800 --> 1:28:11.360 a lot, right, you know, do the stuff like that. 1:28:11.439 --> 1:28:13.760 What does that feel like for you? Because I don't know, 1:28:13.800 --> 1:28:15.880 it almost feels like from the outside looking at like 1:28:16.000 --> 1:28:20.400 watching you, it's like, look so bad. Yeah, old light. 1:28:21.120 --> 1:28:22.960 You don't know really like in your own light and 1:28:23.040 --> 1:28:25.000 your own moment. Yeah, I was. 1:28:26.479 --> 1:28:29.720 I was excited to be there, but just like kind 1:28:29.720 --> 1:28:31.920 of a little bit in shock, like, damn, I'm actually 1:28:31.920 --> 1:28:34.800 on the med carpet and by myself. This is crazy. 1:28:35.200 --> 1:28:38.519 This exactly is crazy. Shot Like, yeah, this is crazy. 1:28:38.560 --> 1:28:39.960 The whole time I was there, I'm like. 1:28:42.160 --> 1:28:45.519 Looking at Anna went to table, like what you at 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:49.639 Anna's table? Yes? Yeah, did she comment? Did she compliment 1:28:49.680 --> 1:28:53.040 your dress? Yes? Oh she did? I did right, Like, 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:55.200 I don't feel like she's the type said anything. 1:29:01.680 --> 1:29:04.320 That joint She didn't time. 1:29:04.479 --> 1:29:06.720 Oh that's great, We're gonna see more of that. I 1:29:06.720 --> 1:29:08.840 feel like you're like, do you feel like you're blossoming 1:29:08.880 --> 1:29:14.360 into another kind of phase of your life? So it's 1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:15.800 scary exciting. 1:29:15.680 --> 1:29:19.120 It's exciting, But I think I would like to handle 1:29:19.160 --> 1:29:22.080 the amount of it because I know sometimes any situations 1:29:22.080 --> 1:29:24.080 that goes from zero to one hundred and I would 1:29:24.120 --> 1:29:26.760 like to like just pace myself a little bit, but 1:29:26.840 --> 1:29:27.639 definitely excited. 1:29:27.840 --> 1:29:31.599 Yeah, slow progression, right, yeah, well yeah, yeah, you got 1:29:31.600 --> 1:29:34.720 her on your side. So she's gonna she's gonna fight 1:29:34.720 --> 1:29:37.719 the lady in the street field. She's gonna she's gonna 1:29:37.720 --> 1:29:41.759 tell you the truth. She's gonna not talk to anybody 1:29:41.760 --> 1:29:47.599 who don't. It's a little friend. We didn't talk about 1:29:48.479 --> 1:29:51.280 spirituality much or anything like that in this conversation. But 1:29:51.320 --> 1:29:53.000 my final question, which is in the bult is my 1:29:53.040 --> 1:29:56.000 favorite question is a little bit so connected to you know, 1:29:56.040 --> 1:30:00.400 what our higher purposes and our higher connection is. So 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:02.240 the question of the ball that's my favorite is if 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:06.080 God would have text you right now, what would it say. 1:30:06.840 --> 1:30:10.599 Well, I don't really like text, so you will tell 1:30:10.680 --> 1:30:14.679 God not to text, Like God can keep short. 1:30:15.960 --> 1:30:17.320 I don't have to respond to that one. 1:30:19.200 --> 1:30:21.960 Yeah, you'll have to respond to God's text. 1:30:22.280 --> 1:30:25.479 She doesn't like that, You're a terrible text. I like text. 1:30:25.640 --> 1:30:27.800 It's just you know, be on my own time. But 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:33.240 the response with God, get me done, you're fired. But 1:30:33.320 --> 1:30:35.160 what would it say if you've got a text from 1:30:35.200 --> 1:30:35.759 him today. 1:30:35.800 --> 1:30:40.439 What would it say? I think mine today would say 1:30:41.960 --> 1:30:45.439 you need some rest? Mm hmmm, I think today that's 1:30:45.439 --> 1:30:47.960 what mine would say. 1:30:48.439 --> 1:30:52.920 I think mine would say, you're exactly where you're supposed 1:30:52.920 --> 1:30:59.800 to be. That's good, I think mine would say, and 1:30:59.840 --> 1:31:00.719 you with a ride? 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:08.639 I mean that's pretty good that Angie. Oh, we didn't 1:31:08.640 --> 1:31:09.240 do the game? 1:31:09.920 --> 1:31:11.920 Okay, come on, you want to do it? 1:31:12.000 --> 1:31:14.880 Okay? So the pot is called Everybody's crazy? This is 1:31:14.920 --> 1:31:19.880 the who is crazier of the two of you? You 1:31:19.960 --> 1:31:25.519 love this already? Who is crazier? Just in general? You 1:31:25.600 --> 1:31:30.439 are the crazier? Who is crazier when it comes to 1:31:31.960 --> 1:31:38.200 being protective of the people they love me? Really? Why 1:31:38.240 --> 1:31:39.680 do I feel like you're gonna be the crazier in 1:31:39.760 --> 1:31:43.559 all of these circumstances? Oh? For god? Who is crazier 1:31:43.600 --> 1:31:50.360 when it comes to holding a grudge? Huh? Dead to me? Forever? Cooked? 1:31:52.520 --> 1:31:55.040 How much does it take to be in that box? 1:31:56.080 --> 1:32:01.000 A minute? Yeah? I don't have a time. You get there, 1:32:01.040 --> 1:32:06.599 but when you go, you ain't coming back forever? Who 1:32:06.640 --> 1:32:11.800 is crazier when it comes to being competitive? Do you 1:32:11.880 --> 1:32:17.040 really think I'm not competitive? I? Thank you? Maybe? Neck 1:32:17.040 --> 1:32:21.519 and neck? Do you play games or do anything. No, 1:32:21.600 --> 1:32:26.360 she don't play no games. You don't just like game 1:32:26.479 --> 1:32:30.360 night or nothing? Or no she does not really or 1:32:30.400 --> 1:32:38.799 even like karaoke. That's a good answer. Who is crazier 1:32:38.800 --> 1:32:42.360 when it comes to being stubborn? Mm hmm. 1:32:45.760 --> 1:32:51.640 I would say me, yeah, you take Yeah, yeah, I'm 1:32:51.640 --> 1:32:52.120 gonna think me. 1:32:52.720 --> 1:32:58.080 You are who you are? Mm hmmm. Crazier during an argument. 1:32:58.479 --> 1:33:03.479 Me, oh know that this tongue is lethal, slicing you 1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:06.680 to pieces. That's why I want to go there. I 1:33:06.840 --> 1:33:10.240 just say, God bless because if I go there, We're 1:33:10.280 --> 1:33:10.760 going to hell? 1:33:11.000 --> 1:33:17.000 What's crazier when it comes to online shopping or shopping? Her? Shopping? 1:33:17.040 --> 1:33:17.120 Me? 1:33:17.360 --> 1:33:18.400 Online shopping her? 1:33:18.520 --> 1:33:20.240 Yeah, I like that. 1:33:20.320 --> 1:33:22.280 I like I r L. I like an I r L. 1:33:22.800 --> 1:33:25.680 You got boxes? What on boxes and delivery? 1:33:25.720 --> 1:33:28.320 What ship I'm never going to use? 1:33:28.560 --> 1:33:31.919 What's something crazy that you just that you've bought recently online? 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:33.880 A desk that I could put on top of my 1:33:33.920 --> 1:33:37.200 desk so I could stand up while I'm at my desk. 1:33:37.840 --> 1:33:46.720 What it's like a desk, Like an adjustable desk that 1:33:46.720 --> 1:33:48.160 goes on the top of the desk. 1:33:48.400 --> 1:33:49.960 I don't have to sit at my desk. You have 1:33:50.000 --> 1:33:53.240 to put it together? Does it require together? Oh? It 1:33:53.320 --> 1:33:56.479 came together, delivered and have you used it? You did? It? 1:33:56.560 --> 1:33:59.519 Be half love that for you. I've been really good lately, 1:33:59.560 --> 1:34:01.839 but there was a period I was ordering just wild 1:34:01.880 --> 1:34:05.240 sh like or so. Instagram gets me to. 1:34:05.160 --> 1:34:09.480 Buy Instagram shot by buy stuff on Instagram. 1:34:10.000 --> 1:34:14.240 It's so easy. What is this? Because it's all line 1:34:14.240 --> 1:34:16.040 of looks cute and then it comes. 1:34:15.720 --> 1:34:20.240 And it's like, I'm not playing instead, No more bathing suits, 1:34:20.240 --> 1:34:20.679 I will. 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:27.200 Amazon. What. No, that's craziness. I have one from Instagram. 1:34:27.240 --> 1:34:30.400 It's worse the like butt pads in it. You didn't 1:34:30.400 --> 1:34:35.759 expect those to be there? What the fuck is this? Okay? 1:34:36.800 --> 1:34:39.080 Who's crazy when it comes to protecting their peace? 1:34:40.520 --> 1:34:43.040 I think that's both of us, both of us. But 1:34:43.160 --> 1:34:47.320 Savannah is better at boundaries. We both can kind of 1:34:47.320 --> 1:34:51.040 disappear in our own way, but she's better at what. Yes, 1:34:52.200 --> 1:34:54.000 a lot of quiet time for both of us. 1:34:54.360 --> 1:35:01.920 Who's giving the best gifts? Me? Hm? I didn't. Oh? 1:35:01.960 --> 1:35:04.439 I didn't. Oh what? Oh? 1:35:04.520 --> 1:35:06.439 Because she used to talk about me so bad because 1:35:06.479 --> 1:35:09.040 I didn't give. I didn't give gifts. I love gifts, 1:35:09.439 --> 1:35:11.639 you do, Yes, you didn't give gifts at all? 1:35:11.800 --> 1:35:11.840 No? 1:35:12.160 --> 1:35:15.920 She even know gifts. It was crazy. Now she's redeeming 1:35:15.920 --> 1:35:17.880 herself because I couldn't gift. 1:35:18.160 --> 1:35:21.840 Yes, it's probably because you have a lot of things 1:35:22.120 --> 1:35:27.280 and so you're like things. Yeah, I love a gift, like, 1:35:27.680 --> 1:35:29.920 love it to me too. I will stay I love it. 1:35:30.000 --> 1:35:31.599 I will stay at the you know in the parties 1:35:31.640 --> 1:35:33.559 when they give gift bags. I don't want that ship, 1:35:33.760 --> 1:35:39.800 but I still want it. Oh, what was the redeeming gift? Yes, 1:35:40.120 --> 1:35:42.920 you said she'd been redeeming herself. Like, what's a lot 1:35:42.960 --> 1:35:45.400 of good gifts? What's a good it's your favorite gift 1:35:45.400 --> 1:35:46.320 that I got you? Oh? 1:35:46.520 --> 1:35:50.479 She bought me this Judith Lieberman bag? 1:35:51.000 --> 1:35:53.600 What is your favorite? That's one of my favorite? What 1:35:53.680 --> 1:35:56.000 is it in a bag? Is it it's a special 1:35:56.040 --> 1:35:58.200 because it was my shortcake? Right? That was? I got 1:35:58.240 --> 1:36:00.479 you to shortcake? No, Marnie got me. Okay, you got 1:36:00.479 --> 1:36:02.360 me the French fries. Oh got you the French fries. 1:36:02.640 --> 1:36:10.160 The French fries. She's really happy, she really loves it. 1:36:10.240 --> 1:36:16.800 I do. Is she a good gift giver? Yoh? No, 1:36:16.840 --> 1:36:20.680 for my was it thirty five? Not thirty fIF? 1:36:21.520 --> 1:36:25.040 So we go we like to go to the ms 1:36:25.280 --> 1:36:26.280 when we go shopping. 1:36:26.479 --> 1:36:30.040 Around the world and I have been wanting these plates 1:36:30.040 --> 1:36:32.080 and I'm like, I'm get the plates. I buy one 1:36:32.160 --> 1:36:34.519 by two okay whatever, she finished my collection? 1:36:34.800 --> 1:36:41.439 Oh yeah, who's knowing the most tea? Who's crazy when 1:36:41.439 --> 1:36:42.639 it comes to knowing the most tea? 1:36:43.400 --> 1:36:43.439 Me? 1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:50.120 Hm, you know the tea, all of it, This is 1:36:50.320 --> 1:36:54.400 all of it. That's why I said, don't be out No. 1:36:54.920 --> 1:36:59.360 And the last one who is crazier about protecting this friendship? 1:37:00.280 --> 1:37:04.760 Both of us, both of us, I think we don't, 1:37:05.840 --> 1:37:07.680 you know. I think you see a lot of like 1:37:08.240 --> 1:37:14.200 whether it's female business partners, female groups, female duos. 1:37:14.600 --> 1:37:16.760 There's not a lot you know. 1:37:16.800 --> 1:37:20.479 And I think a lot of people allow emotion, ego, money, 1:37:20.680 --> 1:37:23.760 success to get in the way of like who they are. 1:37:24.000 --> 1:37:27.439 And I think for us, we want to be the 1:37:27.479 --> 1:37:32.080 ones that someone's like, oh they did it, and we 1:37:32.120 --> 1:37:34.400 want young women to see that, and we want Zori 1:37:34.520 --> 1:37:36.599 to see that and see my kids see it, and 1:37:37.240 --> 1:37:40.880 you know, and also continuing to support women like I 1:37:40.880 --> 1:37:43.880 think it's a lot of like I'll be honest, like 1:37:44.000 --> 1:37:47.800 fake black girl magic and fake like girl tribe. The 1:37:47.840 --> 1:37:50.360 shit is fake. Like you go places and people are like, 1:37:51.280 --> 1:37:52.640 you know, so like really. 1:37:52.400 --> 1:37:53.599 Being thoughtful format. 1:37:53.800 --> 1:37:57.160 Right, Yeah, so I think really being thoughtful around that 1:37:58.680 --> 1:38:03.000 and continuing to like be amongst women like yourself, like 1:38:03.600 --> 1:38:08.519 other women that we admire, And it's okay to admire 1:38:08.600 --> 1:38:13.240 somebody like right, that's a difference, Like you can admire 1:38:13.280 --> 1:38:15.679 somebody and not be a fan and not be weird, 1:38:16.280 --> 1:38:18.960 like that's where you lose me. But you can admire 1:38:19.000 --> 1:38:21.880 somebody but also admire somebody and want to be you. 1:38:22.560 --> 1:38:24.439 Like a lot of people admire people and want to 1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:25.120 be them. 1:38:25.600 --> 1:38:27.639 You don't want to be me. Well, anybody who wants 1:38:27.680 --> 1:38:30.320 to be you is not going to be a good friend, correct. 1:38:30.120 --> 1:38:33.000 And I think just like you can admire somebody and 1:38:33.040 --> 1:38:35.840 admire the essence of them, Like me and Savannah are 1:38:35.840 --> 1:38:36.840 not the same type of mom. 1:38:38.439 --> 1:38:41.000 Really, No, she's a way better mom. 1:38:41.400 --> 1:38:44.160 She's a better mom in a different type of way. 1:38:44.240 --> 1:38:48.640 I feel like, oh, I'm militant. 1:38:49.160 --> 1:38:50.320 She is a good mom. 1:38:50.400 --> 1:38:52.519 But I mean, I'm a good mom, but it's only me. 1:38:53.200 --> 1:38:56.000 It's different when someone has a dad, you know what 1:38:56.040 --> 1:38:59.400 I mean. Like my boys haven't had their dad around 1:38:59.400 --> 1:39:01.840 since they were like three and ten. So I have 1:39:01.960 --> 1:39:03.680 to be the nurturer, but I also have to be 1:39:03.720 --> 1:39:07.320 the discipline area. So it's a level of grace that's 1:39:07.320 --> 1:39:10.240 given in that that I've come to terms with. So 1:39:10.400 --> 1:39:13.880 there's something that she can give that. Like my son 1:39:13.960 --> 1:39:17.000 is quick to call her when I say no, my youngest, 1:39:17.320 --> 1:39:21.040 what ask Savannah. She's more lenient, Like she'd like, girl, 1:39:21.120 --> 1:39:22.559 just la him stay out extra hours? 1:39:22.560 --> 1:39:24.679 Okay, I'll be like, how did you get in our house? 1:39:25.680 --> 1:39:28.040 Like there's always a more, you know, because there is 1:39:28.080 --> 1:39:31.080 no ying and yang yeah, and that's yeah, And I 1:39:31.160 --> 1:39:34.719 think that is a different that's a different dynamic. 1:39:35.120 --> 1:39:37.280 So it is a little bit more. And I'm raising boys. 1:39:37.439 --> 1:39:39.479 It's different. I don't know that better though. 1:39:39.800 --> 1:39:43.240 Better for I think in the way you are able 1:39:43.280 --> 1:39:45.960 to show up, you know. And I would desire that 1:39:46.080 --> 1:39:46.920 for my kids too. 1:39:46.960 --> 1:39:47.519 They love me. 1:39:47.600 --> 1:39:50.160 But my son is like, my wife is not gonna 1:39:50.200 --> 1:39:52.760 work because I work a lot. My son is very 1:39:53.040 --> 1:39:57.280 honest about he's sixteen. He's like, my wife's not gonna work. Yeah, wow, 1:39:57.479 --> 1:40:00.120 because I think I work hard, you know what I mean. 1:40:00.200 --> 1:40:02.800 But they also benefited, you know, So I think that 1:40:02.880 --> 1:40:05.639 there are certain things and I don't I'm not upset 1:40:05.680 --> 1:40:07.559 by that, Like I'm like, that's honest. 1:40:07.720 --> 1:40:08.639 I hope she don't work. 1:40:08.760 --> 1:40:15.519 As long as y'all not using my money, we're good, 1:40:15.960 --> 1:40:19.080 you know, I think just like being honest with it. 1:40:19.160 --> 1:40:22.160 But yes, it's obvious why you guys are friends. It's 1:40:22.200 --> 1:40:29.479 like compliment each other's lives. So for sure friends. We 1:40:29.479 --> 1:40:31.600 should end with the podcast. Everybody should check out the 1:40:31.640 --> 1:40:33.840 way do they? How do they? 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