1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey fam, Hello Sunshine. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, Oscar Award winner Regina King 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: and her closest collaborator, her sister, Reina King, share the 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: secret to sisterly success, both on screen and off. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: It's Tuesday, May seventh. I'm Danielle Robe. 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: And I'm Simone Boyce and this is the bright Side 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: from Hello Sunshine. Danielle. I saw this movie. I can't 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: get out of my head. It's called The Idea of You. 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Have you heard about it? 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 4: Wait? 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 5: Yes? 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Because my mom texted me to watch this. 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 5: It's so good. 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 2: It's based on a book of the same name by 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: an author named Robin Lee, so there was a huge 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: fandom around the book, and the movie stars Anne Hathaway 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: and Nicholas Gallatzine. The reason why this is so refreshing 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: is because it's a rom com about a forty year 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: old mom who falls in love with a hot twenty 20 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: four year old pop star. So already, I just love 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: the way that that's flipping so many societal double standards 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: on its head. And then they actually call out a 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: lot of sexist headlines around age gap relationships, and they 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: call out those double standards in the movie, which I loved. 25 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: The film is so defiant because it centers female pleasure 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: regardless of everyone else's opinions. 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: I kind of love that women are flipping it on 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: its head. We see older men date younger women all 29 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: the time, so I actually can't wait to watch this. 30 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 5: I couldn't agree more. 31 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: You know, Anne Hathaway is really having a moment. She 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: was kind of ostracized. Everybody said she was unlikable in Hollywood. 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: I've always really loved her, and so this film really 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: feels like part of her resurgence. 35 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: I think it's really empowering to see her in this 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: role because she gets to kind of gain the upper 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: hand in that commentary around just the nastiness that can 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: happen in media and celebrity and entertainment reporting. So I 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: love that for her. And then just in hearing the 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: way that she's been promoting this film, there's some one 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: thing that she said that really stuck with me. So 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: she was talking about this idea of coming of age stories, 43 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: and she pointed out that we have this idea in 44 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: our head that coming of age stories are something that 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: happens to you in your early years. But she said, 46 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I feel like I keep blooming. 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: So for me, that reframing just totally changed my view 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: of what coming of age means. We can have a 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: coming of age moment at any point in our life. 50 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that so much. 52 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: And it's also kind of like a new version of 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: the rom com. You know, the old version had really 54 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: sort of flat female characters, and she feels so round 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: and interesting at imagery of Blooming is even interesting. 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to see it. I think 57 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: you're gonna love it. I can't wait to talk about it. 58 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: There's actually another female centric show that has just been 59 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: on my mind. Hacks season three is out. I binged 60 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: season one and two. Have you seen this No, but 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: everyone tells me that I would love it. I need 62 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: to get on the hackstrain. I love it because it 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: centers around comedy in particular, but it also kind of 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: talks about the disconnect between the two generations of feminism 65 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: and it's very, very funny. 66 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a. 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 5: Must watch juicy. 68 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of women defying expectations, there's actually a little 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: news out that I found interesting. Miss Usa Noeli Avoit 70 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: relinquished her title and her crown to prioritize her mental health. 71 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: She was crowned Miss USA back in September, and then 72 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: just yesterday she took to Instagram to announce her resignation, 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: and I want to read you one part that really 74 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: stood out to me. She said, I continue to inspire 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: others to remain steadfast, prioritize your mental health, advocate for 76 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: yourself and others by using your voice, and never be 77 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: afraid of what the future holds, even if it feels uncertain. 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: That felt like a very mature statement coming from a 79 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: twenty four year old, And I think we're hearing a 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: lot more women and people in the news just talking 81 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: about their mental health prioritizing it. I think this is 82 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: something we haven't seen a lot, except for the last 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: few years. 84 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: People used to just power through. 85 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: It's really courageous, and like you said, she clearly has 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: a lot of self awareness as a twenty four year old, 87 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: I think I would have just powered through at twenty four, 88 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: and I don't know that that would have been healthy. 89 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: So I really admire her willingness to accept the sacrifices 90 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: that come with making such a bold move like this. 91 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: It honestly reminds me a lot of when Simone Biles 92 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: decided to withdraw from the Olympics final at Tokyo. I mean, 93 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: remember all the backlash that she got, Like, there's a 94 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: lot of input and feedback and not all of it 95 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: positive that you are opening yourself up to when you 96 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: make a decision like this, So I think it's really brave. 97 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: You don't often see people take a step back at 98 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: the pinnacle of their career, you know, like we see 99 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: people fight so hard for these moments, for the crown, 100 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: for the Olympics, for a certain job as an executive. 101 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: And I think we're seeing something in culture actually where 102 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: maybe all that glitters isn't gold, and we're hearing people 103 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: talk about that They used to just step away and 104 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: not talk about why. 105 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: Now they're giving us the why. 106 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 5: To be honest. 107 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: When it comes to the world of pageants specifically, I'm 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: kind of surprised that they're still as present in. 109 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 5: Our society as a whole nother topic. 110 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people gain a lot 111 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 2: from these pageants, from the experience, there opportunities, it sets 112 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: you up for, you know, careers in broadcasts or what 113 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: have you. But there's a lot of it that is 114 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: really dated that reinforces stereotypes that aren't helpful to us 115 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: as women. So maybe this is part of a larger conversation, 116 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: a larger reckoning that we're going to have around pageants 117 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: in general. 118 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts on pageants. 119 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: You know, the most beautiful women that I know have 120 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: bumps and bruises and scars and are perfectly imperfect. And 121 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: I've never been a fan of the sort of faux 122 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: perfectionism that pageants. 123 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: And also, there's no male equivalent. 124 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: Where's the male pageant where they're walking around in speedos? 125 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: There is none. 126 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: Mister universe. Bodybuilding, That's the only thing I can think of. 127 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: But it's different, it feels different. You don't have to 128 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: wear a ball gown. You know what feels like the 129 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: theme of this discussion that we just had, Danielle, it's choice. 130 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: It's women's centering choice. I mean, from Anne Hathaway's character 131 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: in this The Idea of You movie to Noeli a Void, 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: I mean, these women are boldly, bravely making choices that 133 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: suit them, and they're saying that the opinions of other 134 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: people are insignificant and they don't matter. So I applaud 135 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: these women for making choices. One of them is fictional, 136 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: but whatever. 137 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: It actually takes a lot of self efficacy to do that. 138 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: It's really bold and it's really challenging. So we applaud her. 139 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: All. 140 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: Right after the break, Regina and Reina King tell us 141 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: why they love acting and directing as a family affair, 142 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: and about their latest project, Netflix's limited series, A Man 143 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: in Full. 144 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: We'll be right back, y'all. Welcome back to the bright Side, y'all, Danielle. 145 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: Today is such a special day for the show. We 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: are joined by two sisters who are, let's face it, 147 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: Hollywood royalty. 148 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 5: It's Regina King and Rena King. You can say that again. 149 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: You know Regina King as an Oscar Emmy and Golden 150 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: Globe winning actor. You've seen her in films like If 151 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: Beale Street Could Talk, Jerry Maguire, and so many others. 152 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: More recently, Regina's been focusing on directing and producing projects 153 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: with her sister, Reina King. Raina's an accomplished actress, producer, 154 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: and co founder of their production company Royalties. As sisters, 155 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: they're taking their storytelling to the next level, y'all. 156 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: They are coming in hot off the success of their 157 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: Shirley Chisholm biopic Sureley. Regina and Raina also co executive 158 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: produced the new Netflix series A Man in Full, with 159 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: Regina directing as a well Reina Regina, Welcome to the 160 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: bright Side. 161 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, bright Side, Hello bright Side. 162 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: We're really happy to have you here. We've never had 163 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: sisters in studio. 164 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 165 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: First, yeah, this is special for us. 166 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: Danielle and I always talk about how we wish we 167 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: had sisters growing up. I mean, I didn't have anybody 168 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: to steal my clothes, and I'm still kind of bitter 169 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: about it. You too, are sisterhood goals. How imaginative were 170 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: you as little girls? 171 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: Oh? 172 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 6: White imaginative, I would say, you know, our mother was 173 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 6: a teacher. 174 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: I still I feel like always will be. 175 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 6: And we did plays in the house, yes, in our home, in. 176 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: The little place you wrote, produced and directed. 177 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 7: Wrote, produced, We wrote and produced and directed. But they 178 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 7: were all improvised. 179 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 6: Exactly exactly a lot of improvising, lot of living. And 180 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 6: then there were sometimes that lyrics were provided when it 181 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 6: was the Prince album or oh okay, yeah yeah, Heart, 182 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 6: which was a big one for us. What a little 183 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 6: bit of Jill Silverstein. Yes, where the Sidewalk ends. I 184 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 6: think we probably memorize half of that book of poetry. 185 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 5: So yeah, I guess we did variety shows. 186 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: Ran Yeah, y'all did it all. 187 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: So I kind of want you to bring those back. 188 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 3: Just maybe I'm just saying, yes, you both have been 189 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 3: acting professionally since you were kids, Regina. I think about 190 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: Boys in the Hood, Poetic Justice, Higher Learning, Living Single, 191 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: how Stella got her groove back, Jerry McGuire, Ray, and 192 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: then of course everything recently, which was harder. They fall 193 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: one night in Miami, The Watchman. I think it's cool 194 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: that you know each other's works so well, like your 195 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: fans of your sister. 196 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: It sounds like, oh yeah, I am a huge fan 197 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: on end offscreen. 198 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 5: That's what made us become royal ties. 199 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 7: You know, when Raina decided to no longer continue in acting, 200 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 7: it wasn't like a big newsflash. She just kind of 201 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 7: gravitated doing so. I mean, Reina has been a talent agent, 202 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 7: She's worked in post production, you know, in all these 203 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 7: different spaces within our entertainment industries that make the art 204 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 7: of it. She had gathered just so much knowledge along 205 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 7: the way, and it just made sense to bring all 206 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 7: of that together. 207 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm just a fan. 208 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 7: Of her desire to, at such a young age, have 209 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:56,479 Speaker 7: the foresight to exist in all of these different spaces. 210 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the origins of Royal Ties, 211 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: and I'll start by just zooming out a little bit 212 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: and talk about our boss here and your former co star, 213 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: Reese Witherspoon, who founded Hell of Sunshine out of a 214 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: need to champion female centered stories. And I want to 215 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: know what was the need that you felt called to 216 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: meet with your production company Royalties. 217 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 7: Wow, I would say a part of it would definitely 218 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,119 Speaker 7: be female driven stories. 219 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 5: I think more than anything was. 220 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 7: That we have such a huge love for storytelling and 221 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 7: being in the business for so long, have noticed that 222 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 7: majority of artists that put out content certain type of genre, 223 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 7: certain type of storytelling, and we've always been a fan 224 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 7: of all of it, and so just wanting to be 225 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 7: in a space where we can do a little bit. 226 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 7: If you just look at from a Man in Full 227 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 7: to Shirley, just the difference between those those two projects, 228 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 7: stories couldn't be more night and day that one that 229 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 7: it can be done, and the desire to provide a 230 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 7: space for those artists that or art without without walls, 231 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 7: without barriers, you know, without lines. 232 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: I love that you're not afraid to explore that vast 233 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: range between those two projects. Is there is there a 234 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: through line or an intention that you feel grounds each 235 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: Royaltized production and the projects that you seek out. 236 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 6: I mean, it's funny that you say a through line 237 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 6: and just going picking backing off what Virginia was saying 238 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 6: earlier in regards to like female driven stories, that even 239 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 6: if it's not female driven, we're making sure that women 240 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 6: have a role in a strong presence in that project. 241 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 6: But I think for us it is I feel like 242 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 6: every thing is a formula. You know what we've seen, 243 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 6: you know, things that have already been done, and it 244 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: is more about thinking about what the POV is, you know, 245 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 6: the lens that you're coming into that project with and 246 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 6: being outside the box. So taking what's normal and approaching 247 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 6: it from a different aspect, you know, or a different lens. 248 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: You mentioned Shirley. 249 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,359 Speaker 3: Shirley Chisholm was one of the most impactful historical figures 250 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: in my life, and I know Simone feels really connected 251 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: to her as well. We both loved the film. I've 252 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: heard you say roles choose the actor. How did Shirley 253 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: choose you? First of all, I think in stature, she 254 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 3: chose me. 255 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 7: You know, I'm small but mighty, and I guess I'm 256 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 7: speaking a bit spiritually as well. You know, this woman 257 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 7: did something at a time that you know when we 258 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 7: see women having these first now and then you think 259 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 7: about the climate in which she was having a first politically, 260 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 7: a space that was not wanting not only black people 261 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 7: but women. I mean, at the time that Shirley was running, 262 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 7: women still weren't able to open up a checking account 263 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 7: without having a husband, but yet she was running for 264 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 7: the president of the United States, to just even have 265 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 7: the endurance to stamina and so that I would have 266 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 7: the balls to play her. Of course she chose me. H. 267 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 7: If that makes sense, it makes all the sense. 268 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: They number a lot of sense. And Reina, you play 269 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: Shirley's sister Muriel in the film, and you have worked 270 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: together on the same show two to seven, but not 271 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: in the same scene. 272 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 5: So to now, all. 273 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: These years later, get to actually play sisters and share 274 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: scenes together, I mean that sounds like such a special experience. 275 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 5: It truly was. 276 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 6: And what other time and what other moment or opportunity 277 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 6: would present itself that we would actually be able to 278 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 6: do that I mean, it. 279 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 5: Was not planned. 280 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 6: It was not part of any original discussion in the 281 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 6: writing of that script and the discussion of production. And 282 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 6: I first said no, and I thought about it. I 283 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 6: talked to Regina. I felt like, when would I get 284 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 6: an opportunity like this again? I think somewhere inside of me, 285 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 6: deep down, the acting bug is always there. 286 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of theater. 287 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 6: I used to say, Oh, if I were to go back, 288 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 6: I would do something on stage. 289 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 5: So it was in there, but it was thirty years 290 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 5: deep in there. 291 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 6: And when would we have the opportunity to be on 292 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 6: the same project and also be playing sisters for this 293 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 6: project about this woman that we were so passionate about 294 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 6: getting out to the masses to audiences not just within 295 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 6: the country but globally. 296 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: Who else but me should have played that role. 297 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: I was talking to my mom about Shirley Chisholm, and 298 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: she reminded me that my grandmother was inspired to run 299 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: for office because of Shirley, and my grandmother became a 300 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: school board member in nineteen seventy seven. She was the 301 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: only black member on the school board in Prince George's 302 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: County during integration and bussing, and. 303 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 5: It's because of Shirley. 304 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: So wow, just thinking about her impact and all the 305 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: future Shirley's that will see just gives me chills, and that. 306 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 5: Would make her very happy. 307 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 6: It makes Shirley very happy and very proud because I 308 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 6: think that was part of inspiring and getting people to 309 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 6: be active. 310 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 5: So that would make her very happy to. 311 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: Hear that you both had been working on this project 312 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: for fifteen years. That is an investment of time, of passion, 313 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: of love, of dedication. 314 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 5: What kept you going? 315 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 7: I think, just like what you just shared about your grandmother, 316 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 7: you know, I think that encapsulates all of the things 317 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 7: that kept us going and not letting go even when 318 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 7: we veered off and did other projects and came back 319 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 7: to it. I guess it all comes back to endurance 320 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 7: and inspiration from others. It's interesting going back to recent 321 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 7: Hello Sunshine in a space for women, I feel like 322 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 7: thank God for women, like thank God for each other, 323 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, especially when it comes to 324 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 7: Black women and all women, but specifically Black women, being 325 00:17:53,600 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 7: the one human being that is the most in a 326 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 7: lot of ways unwanted. The way we lean on our mothers, 327 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 7: our grandmothers, our sisters, our friends, We're just each other's pulse. 328 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 7: I mean, it's pretty fantastic and it's really hard to 329 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 7: put in words, but it's that that made us never 330 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 7: let go. It's that energy that it it's molecular. 331 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: You know. 332 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: You just mentioned Reese and you did an interview with 333 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: her a few years ago and she said one of 334 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: the first things she noticed about you was truth. And 335 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: now I get to meet your sister and I'm noticing 336 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 3: the same thing. Oh yeah, Why are you guys truth seekers? 337 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: Is that? 338 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? 339 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: I guess you just don't know any other way to be. 340 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 6: It's another one of those things I think that are 341 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 6: in our DNA. I mean, nobody wants to be lied to, 342 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 6: but I feel like, you know, the world that we 343 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 6: live in is filled with so many untruths and smoking 344 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 6: mirrors that you're constantly already seeking get and kind of 345 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 6: trying to get through the untruths and lies is tiresome. 346 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Well, can you spot it quickly? Because you guys are 347 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: so truthful. 348 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 6: I feel like I've gotten a lot better at it 349 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 6: that sometimes somebody will say something, I'm like, now, that's 350 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 6: that's not true. Depending on who it could be, Regina 351 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 6: and you know, someone else that I trust. 352 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 4: Now you know that's not true. That did not happen, 353 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 4: and that's not going to happen. 354 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: Regina, you have your hand and footprint on the Hollywood 355 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: Walk of Fame. 356 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: Your sister was there with you that day. 357 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: Why was it so special to have your hand and 358 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: footprint on Hollywood Boulevard? 359 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 5: For me? 360 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 7: You know, I could put my put my hands and 361 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 7: my foot in it. It is a part of me, 362 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 7: my DNA up in that sement, you know what I mean. 363 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: And those get walked on a lot less also love it. 364 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 8: It's your literal fingerprint on Hollywood and on this city 365 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 8: that you were born and raised in Dad born and 366 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 8: bred and yeah, yes, and I'm an Angelino too, and 367 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 8: there's not many of us. 368 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 5: So you get it. You get it. I do. 369 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 2: I love this city with all of my heart, all 370 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: of my heart. And then I also think about all 371 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: the people who can then come in after you and 372 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: put their hands in those spots. 373 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 5: So it's like we're having a handshake or a hug. 374 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: Yes, I want to hear how you two have grown 375 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: as sisters over the past seven years that you've been 376 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: working together. I mean, I imagine you're both on your 377 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: own growth journeys, but you're also growing together too. 378 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 5: M wow. 379 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 7: From my part is recognizing out of feeling our relationship 380 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 7: shift from big sister, little sister to damn you pretty dope. 381 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 7: And it's been like that for years, but it takes 382 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 7: on different versions since Royal Ties has been in the 383 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 7: place of actively producing things and not trying to get 384 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 7: something produced. To see how we're equals is been when 385 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 7: we joke around and stuff. I can run the little 386 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 7: sister jokes, but not anymore. 387 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 5: I can't. I can't. I was going to say, yet, 388 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 5: we're still there. It's in there, it's it's still that 389 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 5: part has. 390 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: Not do they come up on said. 391 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: They come up anywhere and everywhere. 392 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 5: There's no there. 393 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: There's not a safe space. 394 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: Lady, Okay, I think that's a perfect spot to take 395 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: a quick break. 396 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll hear from Regina and Reina 397 00:21:54,480 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: on all the things that get better with age. We're 398 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: back with Raina and Regina King. I want to talk 399 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: about your new series of Man in Full because Jeff Daniels, 400 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: Diane Lane, it's a stacked cast. Why did you want 401 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: to be a part of telling this particular story. 402 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 7: Well, it's so far away from what anyone would think, 403 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 7: you know, Regina and Rayna would go out and produce 404 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 7: a story of Tom wolf adaptation that Charlie Croker that 405 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 7: we did is much different because I would say that 406 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 7: the Charlie Croker and Tom Wolfe's book was more than 407 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 7: racial racist adjacent, So that spin on it is different. 408 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 5: But no one would ever think that we would. 409 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 7: Be producing, directing something like that, or to even like 410 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 7: something like that. But we are freaking the huge fans 411 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 7: of Dallas what jr. Ewing, You know, those type of 412 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 7: stories we grew up on and we love them. So 413 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 7: it was the perfect fit in a lot of ways 414 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 7: because it spoke. 415 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 5: To us being able to tell the. 416 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 7: Story that has that big space of those dynasty stories 417 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 7: that we grew up on loving. 418 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 5: And then David Kelly. 419 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 6: She had me and David Kelly. It was literally She's 420 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 6: like rain A, David shout to me, and so David Kelly, 421 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 6: I mean, come. 422 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 5: On, he does courtroom really well. 423 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: He does courtroom really well. 424 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 6: You know, I have to say that, as Regina said, 425 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 6: you know, with this Tom wif book that took place 426 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 6: in the nineties and Tom was writing, you kind of 427 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 6: knew you were going to be in good hands with 428 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 6: David kind of you know, it's a large, dense book, 429 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 6: you know, and these are six episodes, but playing a 430 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 6: nice balance of what was put forward in the book 431 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 6: in treating it, you know, delicately but still in your face, 432 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 6: the absurdity of it and things that you can relate 433 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 6: to even if you've seen it outside of what your 434 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 6: social economic scope may be. 435 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 7: One of the things, you know, that's so hard when 436 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 7: you're trying to adapt something that's, like rain I said, 437 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 7: in a thousand page book into six episodes. But that 438 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 7: thing that fascinated us most about the book, and we 439 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 7: think that David even fine tuned it even more, is 440 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 7: that when you most of us can't relate to people 441 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 7: who have money on that level or who deal in 442 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 7: that type of fiscal space. But whether if you have 443 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 7: two hundred dollars and someone the bank tells you now 444 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 7: you have twenty cents, and you have eight hundred million 445 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 7: dollars and now they tell you you have twenty cents, 446 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 7: you immediately level the playing field quickly as far as 447 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 7: relating to going from what you had to having nothing. 448 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 7: And how do we take something that is so unrelatable 449 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 7: that lifestyle for most people and make it so those 450 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 7: people who never will experience that lifestyle can lean in, 451 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 7: can find commonality. And being broke is not feeling good? 452 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 7: Is I think common for every every person that is 453 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 7: or has been broke. 454 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: Speak for yourself, Regina. I don't know what you're talking about. 455 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: I've never I can't relate. I don't know what you're saying. Regina. 456 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: You've directed episodes of Insecure, this is a scandal, shameless animal, 457 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: I mean, the list goes on, and now a man 458 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: in full I'm curious how directing feels in your body. 459 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: Do you if you still get nerves whenever you show 460 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: up to set. Do you have more nerves when you 461 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: show up to day one on set as someone like Shirley, 462 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: like as an actor or as a director. 463 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 5: As a director? Really why? 464 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, because Shirley's kind of like Beyonce, you know 465 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 7: what I mean, Like nobody else is in a category 466 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 7: with Beyonce. 467 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 5: Beyonce is like kind of on our own strategy or 468 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: But as. 469 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 7: A director, the responsibility is so much bigger it is 470 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 7: for an actor. 471 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, there is that. 472 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 7: It's time consuming and the preparation in the beginning, but 473 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 7: you're only preparing for that character. 474 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 5: And you are remaining open to how. 475 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 7: Your character within that story is going to come together, 476 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 7: and you're leaning on your scene partners at that point 477 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 7: with all of that. 478 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 5: But as a director, it's all of. 479 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 7: It, all of these intentions and motivations and stories that 480 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 7: this character wants to tell. What does the space that 481 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 7: they're going to tell it in look like? 482 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? Then you know. 483 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 6: I mean it's just so in every department that helps 484 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 6: make that happen. 485 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, you know, so many layers, so yeah, big nerves. 486 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 7: I come to set way earlier as a director than 487 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 7: I do as an actor, but I don't have to 488 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 7: go into the hair and makeup. 489 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: Now, that's how you feel about Podcasting's funny. 490 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 7: That's how if I go to makeup trailers because I'm 491 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 7: going to say, all right. 492 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 5: Everybody, we're going to have a great day to day. 493 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: You know? Is that what you do to hide people 494 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: up on set? Do you have a ritual where you 495 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: HiPE people up? 496 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 5: It's a situational right. 497 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 7: It depends on the cast, It depends on the crew. 498 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 5: I remember, it's so strange. 499 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 7: I was directing an episode of The Good Doctor and 500 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 7: at the. 501 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 5: End of those. 502 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 7: Some of those days when we rap, I would play 503 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 7: a song, you know, and then it kind of like 504 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 7: turned into someone would come and say, can we play 505 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 7: such and such at the end, you know, when we 506 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 7: were and it was kind of fun, and I have 507 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 7: not done that since then. 508 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of film, you started a movie with our 509 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: executive producer, Reese Witherspoon, Legally Blonde two. What do you 510 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: remember about working with Reese? 511 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 7: You know, it's so funny about that, and it's interesting. 512 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: What I remember the most is that she. 513 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 7: Was pregnant and she didn't know it for a small 514 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 7: amount of it. And I feel like, not long after 515 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 7: she knew, I knew, I felt and I. 516 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 5: Felt close enough to ask her at the end. 517 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 7: And so I remember that just that whole time, from 518 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 7: when I first clocked that I thought she was pregnant 519 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 7: to asking her and just watching her so gracefully through 520 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 7: her being an executive producer and the star and you know, 521 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 7: a home because you're a mother, you're a home before 522 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 7: you give birth, and she was so graceful. 523 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 5: And whenever I'm. 524 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 7: Asked about Legally Blond two, that is always the first 525 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 7: thought that comes up. But I never have the space 526 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 7: to actually say that, so I usually say something about, 527 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 7: you know, are our love for Sally Field? 528 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: Oh, we love important, but that's a really special thing 529 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: to share. 530 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for giving us. 531 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we love that story. I have one more 532 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: about that time period in Hollywood. We just did this 533 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: story on the show talking about chemistry tests from back 534 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: in the day, from like the nineties, right because Anne 535 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: Hathaway came out and she told the story about how 536 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: studio heads casting directors they would put her through this 537 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: chemistry test with like ten different actors where she would 538 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: have to make out with all of them, and I 539 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: just thought that that was so crazy and things have 540 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: changed so much in this post me to era. 541 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 5: Ray Aina's eyes. 542 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: Raina's eyes are saying everything right now, but did you 543 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: did either of you have ever experience anything like that? 544 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: Or what are some of the other shocking things that 545 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: happened in the business back then that would never fly today. 546 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 6: Well, I can definitely say I by the time I 547 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 6: stopped acting and was focusing on high school, I was 548 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 6: too young for that to have happened. 549 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: For me personally, that was not happening. 550 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 6: And even if I was eighteen nineteen, that would not 551 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 6: have happened either. Now I will say that if there 552 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 6: was you know, in that chemistry read, if there was 553 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 6: like one male actor that I'm going to seal the deal, 554 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 6: then that one person might have gotten that kiss, but 555 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 6: I would have been kissing on the cheek, on the neck, 556 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 6: and everywhere else that wouldn't have. 557 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 5: What does big Sis say about this? 558 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 7: I definitely never experienced it personally. I definitely had peers 559 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 7: that were auditioning and having to in my opinion. 560 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 5: Wear clothes or be way. 561 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 7: More intimate than what I thought they should be doing. 562 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 7: But the thing that I did experience as an actor, 563 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 7: and thankfully having such awesome agents who are still my 564 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 7: agents to this day, experiencing roles that were written as 565 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 7: white just because white people were writing them, and that 566 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 7: character could be any color. And so my agents really 567 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 7: pushing in some spaces where a role was written for 568 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 7: white but like, no, you should see Regina, No, Regina 569 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 7: should go in with this. 570 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 5: And then to bring it back to Reese Leally Blontu. 571 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 7: That was Reese as a producer and that producing team 572 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 7: that saw and understood that the best actor for. 573 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 5: The role should play that that part. 574 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 7: And so Grace happened to be black, and I think 575 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 7: that that is still part of the culture where it 576 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 7: shifted to not being written or the character description not 577 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 7: being written as white or black. God forbid you're Latino 578 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 7: or Asian. That's the percentage. It is even lower as 579 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 7: far as the possibility. But now I feel like, or 580 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 7: at least six or seven years ago, you were hearing 581 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 7: racially ambiguous is the which meant not white but not 582 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 7: necessarily black. 583 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, what does that mean exactly? 584 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 7: Does that mean we want you to look like mixed dish, 585 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 7: you know, or she can be whatever. 586 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 5: You don't really see. 587 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 7: That so much with the male character descriptions. 588 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: So the king Sisters hold a lot of wisdom. 589 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 5: Regina. 590 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: You told Vogue UK a few years ago, I feel 591 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: like I'm so much more interesting now than I was 592 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 3: at twenty five. Who I loved, you said, you bring 593 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: so much more to the table. So we talk about 594 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: aging on this show a lot, because the messages we 595 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: get make us feel like women expire, and then we 596 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: talk to women in real life and it's the exact opposite. 597 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 3: So can you share with us one or two things 598 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: that you feel like has just gotten better? 599 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 5: Sex more? But no, seriously, I mean, you know, I. 600 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 7: Recognize that having a partner that really well one loves 601 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 7: you but wants to please you, and being patient enough 602 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 7: to receive that. I feel like just when I was younger, 603 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 7: I wouldn't wouldn't have even allowed myself to slow down 604 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 7: enough to recognize that the reason I'm not coming is because. 605 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 5: It's fun in the beginning, a little bit of for 606 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: a player or whatever. But then then you know, yeah. 607 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 6: But not when they boring exactly that, not when they're 608 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 6: not boring. 609 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 5: In some ways. 610 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 7: But it's because I was not allowing myself to be 611 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 7: more in tune with myself to receive what should and 612 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 7: could be received, because I was not allowing myself to 613 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 7: be a good picker. 614 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: I really I have to tell you. I love that 615 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 3: you said that. I think a lot of women relate 616 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: to that, and we don't talk about it all the time. 617 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: Talk about it, talk about it for that, talk about it, Reina, 618 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: let's got better. 619 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 5: How are you going to top that one, RAINA, I don't. Yeah. 620 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 6: I think I may have been a little bit ahead 621 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 6: of my time on the sex one. So that was 622 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 6: the issue, I would say, because I do truly feel 623 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 6: the getting older is truly better. You know, I literally 624 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 6: have friends that either won't tell you the A and 625 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 6: I tell them They're like, I don't want to grow up, 626 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 6: and I like that I'm growing up and have grown up. 627 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 6: And I would say, just understanding what I want mm hm, 628 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 6: where I am in my life and while I'm setting 629 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 6: goals not to have to expect so much from myself, 630 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 6: knowing how to balance my own personal pressures that I 631 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 6: think we put on ourselves as working women, working mothers. 632 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 4: Just existing. 633 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you brought me into my next question 634 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 3: that was perfect. 635 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: What's bringing you joy right now? 636 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, sometimes people say, you know, 637 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 6: take the wave, you know, and. 638 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 4: Ride the wave. 639 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 6: I feel like our waves or waves are going to 640 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 6: keep on coming and be ties that are going to 641 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 6: get bigger. And even though I have these moments, I'm like, 642 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 6: I'm so tired. 643 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 5: I could not be working. I'm enjoying working. 644 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 4: I'm enjoying my career. I like my relationship I'm in. 645 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 6: We don't live together, Katherine Hepburn said, men and women 646 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 6: shouldn't live together, they should be neighbors and visit now 647 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 6: and then. So I'm just feel good in the place 648 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 6: that I'm in and the space that I'm in. 649 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. 650 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 5: Thank you, Regina. 651 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: What's bringing you joy? 652 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 7: You know that's a complicated question for me, so I 653 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 7: can only speak to it in. 654 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 5: A moment by moment face. 655 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 7: So right now, having this interview with my sister and 656 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 7: meeting to lovely women that seem genuinely interested in hearing 657 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 7: from us and not having to wear makeup while doing 658 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 7: it bringing me lots of. 659 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 6: I will say, as podcasts go for the ones when 660 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 6: you can actually see people, I don't. 661 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 4: No one can see us. These two ladies look pretty good. 662 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 5: And they don't have one a bunch of makeup. 663 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe their. 664 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 8: Eyebrows maybe you know, maybe filled it in with little 665 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 8: Mabeline as they shift. 666 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 7: But these are just some natural beauty faces going on 667 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 7: right here. 668 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 2: Thank you both for your honesty and just keeping it 669 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: real with us. 670 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, Thank you for having us. 671 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 5: And keep killing it. It's a hard marketplace out there, 672 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 5: and Royaltize is killing it. 673 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: We're going to try, but y'all are taking big swings 674 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 2: and that's really brave and that's really courageous. And you 675 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 2: can just tell that you lead with purpose and everything 676 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: that you do. So I think if you do that, 677 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: I mean, what more can you ask for? 678 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: I love that get together. 679 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 5: Well until we speak again, lady, Yes, thank you so much. 680 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 4: Thank you. 681 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: Regina and Raina King are executive producers of the new 682 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 2: Netflix series A Man in Full I'm the Netflix film. 683 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 2: Surely both are available to stream right now. 684 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 3: That's it for today's show. Tomorrow, we have doctor Elizabeth Coleman. 685 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 3: She's a medical historian walking us through sexism in medicine 686 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 3: and how the future is changing for women. Listen and 687 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 3: follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 688 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcasts. 689 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 5: I'm Simone Voice. 690 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: You can find me at simone Voice on Instagram and TikTok. 691 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 3: I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok. 692 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: That's ro Bay. We'll see you tomorrow. 693 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: Keep looking on the bright side.