1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: The volume. Just a reminder you can catch me recording 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: this podcast live on amp. Amp is a new live 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: radio app. They'll let you call in and chat with 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: me in person while recording. Get the app on Apple's 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: app store and make sure you follow me at John 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: middlecof to get notified when I go live. What is 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: going on? Everybody's Yon middlecop three and out podcasts. How 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: are we doing? June twenty sixth. It's about four o'clock 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: in the afternoon. Just said, you know, I'll throw a 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: couple of topics down the jets on hard Knocks, Jonathan 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Gannon paying ten million dollars for a house, don't sleep 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: on head coaches money, geez, Sean McDermott gets a contract extension, 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: and uh, I got to do a mailbag. So at 14 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those dms, I will 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: do a big mail bag. So here's the drill we 16 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: will have. We had Cam Hayward on Monday, so if 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: you haven't listened to that, go back and listen to that. 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Guys A stud team captain Pittsburgh Steelers. No big deal. 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: Today we'll have this podcast. We will have a golf 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: podcast come Wednesday. The little thing we call go lo 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: reacting to the last elevated event kind of probably look 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: forward to the rest of the golf season, which is 23 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: probably going to slow down here pretty dramatically before the 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Open Championship in hoy Lake, pretty sure, Rory McElroy when 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: the last time they played there about a decade ago. 26 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: And we will be off then after Wednesday's golf podcast 27 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: for the rest of the week and then all week 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: next week. So taking a little bit of a breather, 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: giving my people some time working hard behind the scenes, 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: and just you know, just sometimes it's good to just 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: take a deep breath and then come back rock and rolling. 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: So so basically this will be the last football podcast 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: for about a week and a half and then we 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: will come back on the tenth already recorded with my 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: guy t Bob Abear play at LSU Dad obviously longtime 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback Beauty. Yeah, we talked the other day just 37 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: an all time dude to stud so that that will 38 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: play here when we come back, and then we'll just 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: start rocking and rolling again. So that's the plan. At 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: John Middlecoffe Instagram fire in those dms. I'll answer some 41 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: dms today and let's rock and roll. But before we 42 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: dive into football, I need you to grab your smartphone. 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: I need you to go to the app store, and 44 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: I need you to download the game Time app. They 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: are the official ticketing app of this podcast. 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As of recording this podcast, 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: it's not official yet, but all signs are pointing to 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: the Jets going on hard knocks quote unquote against their will, 56 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: mainly because nobody the Bears, the Jets, all the Patriots 57 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: want any part of I guess the Patriots aren't technically 58 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: eligible because they made the playoffs a year ago, but 59 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: all the teams that are eligible are like, do not 60 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: come to our building. We don't want to do it, 61 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: and the NFL forces you to do it the time 62 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: and time again last year the Lions didn't want to 63 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: do it. It's out of your control as an NFL franchise. 64 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: My overall take now has been pretty consistent with this show. 65 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: It is not relevant anymore. I actually don't even think 66 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: it's needed. And I was just thinking about every single 67 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: great show of my lifetime from the late nineties, Friends Seinfeld, 68 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: how when I was really really young, my dad loved 69 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: Cheers to recent Memory, Game of Throne, Succession, you name it. 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: They all come to an end. They don't go on forever. 71 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Every show has a shelf life. Now. I understand this 72 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: is quote unquote reality television. It's not a scripted television show, 73 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: and they change it team to team. But I do 74 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: think if we look at it like all these series 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: that we have all loved, whatever it may be, whether 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: you like comedy, whether you like serious stuff, whether it's Billions, 77 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: whether it's The Sopranos, whether it's The Wire, whatever show 78 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: are your go tos or your favorites over the years, 79 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: they all ended, and that's what I think. It's time 80 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: for Hard Knocks. I just think it's over. I think 81 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: we've seen it now for multiple decades. It peaked out 82 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: a long time ago, and I heard out Breer telling 83 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Colin this, and he is so right. The big difference 84 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years ago. I remember I started watching this 85 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: when I was in high school, and I graduated in 86 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and three from high school, so I started 87 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: watching this in their early two thousands. I remember the 88 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: ravens of the Dallas Cowboys. It was so raw and real. 89 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: You had never seen anything like it. It took you, 90 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: you know, behind enemy lines in the sense of you 91 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: were going to these meetings with the coaches and the 92 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: personnel people. You're like, if you loved sports, you weren't 93 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: getting that anywhere else. And the coaches when they would 94 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: go around in training camp talking shit about the draft 95 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: picks or a veteran doesn't have it, or being positive 96 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: about a guy it was. It was incredible. And then 97 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: over the years, as social media happened, as the NFL 98 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: really exploded, it dumbed down, dumb down, dumb down. Well 99 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: over the last four or five years, this little thing 100 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: called YouTube has been an avenue for all of us. 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: We all use it that are in the content creation business. Well, 102 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: that goes for NFL teams. The Jets are a good 103 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: example of I watched I don't know is thirty minutes 104 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: on the Jets off season that they produced, which was 105 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: essentially their version of Hard Knocks. And if I'm a 106 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: Jets fan, if I'm an Eagles fan, if I'm a 107 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: whoever fan, the Colts have been doing this for years. 108 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: I get inside access on my team's website. And unlike 109 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, when it was like if your team 110 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: was on Hard Knocks, you were finding out about players 111 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: who were, you know, on the come up, players who 112 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: were holding on for dear life, players who the coaches 113 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: did not like, that's not the case anymore. Everything is 114 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: just so surface level it honestly feels kind of fake. 115 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: Now it's still entertaining, it's the NFL. It has its 116 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: moments on a given episode, but I think the totality 117 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: of the four or five episode it's kind of boring. Now. 118 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I understand I might be on the extreme end of it, 119 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: but I've talked to enough people that I think this 120 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: show has really really lost its luster. And when I 121 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: think of all these other great shows and listen Hard 122 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: Knocks a I mean, it's a transcendent show series when 123 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: it comes to professional sports. Everything we've seen since right 124 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: I remember several years ago, being bored flipping around Amazon 125 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Prime and stumbling on essentially the hard knocks of Man City. 126 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm not even a soccer guy. It was awesome. They've 127 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: done it with baseball, They've done it with all sorts. 128 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: They've done it in college at the University of Michigan 129 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: did it years ago. It changed the game. But like, 130 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's needed. I think the NFL 131 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: is big enough now. I think all these teams take 132 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: enough Pride's probably the wrong word because they are profiting 133 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: from this, but have in ouse production crews that are 134 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: doing it. I just don't think it's necessary. And I 135 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: do think at this point in time, it's holding on 136 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: for dear life. And while the Jets on paper are 137 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: an incredible story, add Aaron Rodgers, get Hackett, who is 138 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: just fired from the Denver Broncos, have a head coach 139 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: that is he on the hot seat. Have all these 140 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: young star ascending players have this quarterback that they drafted 141 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, number two overall, who feels 142 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: like his careers in peril. So they got a lot, 143 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: they got a star star would be strong. Let me 144 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: rewind that they have a former top ten pick at 145 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: left tackle whose career is not headed in the right direction. 146 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: So they got a lot of moving parts, good and bad. 147 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: So like the storylines, it's not hard to create. But 148 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: we know that the NFL has really dialed back how 149 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: controversial this show gets in terms of the access that 150 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: they give out, because clearly when it goes to the 151 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: chopping block and it gets before any of us see it, 152 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: the team now gets to put their hands on it, 153 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: and it's just like a PG version and any of 154 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: us that started, if you're my age year older that 155 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: saw the raw hell not even rated R, I was 156 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: like NC seventeen, it's hard to go back, and we're 157 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: never going back. So I don't I understand their contracts, 158 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they have a long deal with HBO. 159 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: My overall take would just like a lot of other shows, 160 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: or literally every other show ever, just just canceled. The 161 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: series had a hell of a run, not needed anymore. 162 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: The NBA Draft just happened, and I gotta be honest, 163 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: after the third pick, I turned it off. I thought 164 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: the production was terrible. It was just a little too 165 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: fluffy for me, and I didn't know any of the 166 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: players beside the top three guys dude from France, Brandon Miller, 167 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: And the reason I really know Brandon Miller's not like 168 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm watching Alabama basketball is because of the you know, 169 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: the shooting incident that happened, and then Scoot Henderson just 170 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: because I mean, I follow the NBA, so we've been 171 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: hearing about this name. All the other guys have no 172 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: clue who they are. The production of the the NBA Draft. 173 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: I've been watching drafts the NBA and the NFL now 174 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: probably for going on three decades, and I don't know 175 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: who that production show is for, like what are we 176 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish? And so it didn't get my didn't 177 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: get my eyes change the channel. Just I don't even 178 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: know what I watched. I think I might have gone 179 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: for a walk or something. But by the end of 180 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: the first round, there was this guy named Cam Whitmore 181 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: who was supposed to go in like the top six 182 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: or seven picks and he ends up going number twenty 183 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: after teams like the Miami Heat and the Golden State 184 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: Warriors pass on him. And this was a guy that, 185 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: universally on all the boards media wise, was like a 186 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: top six or seven player. And this happens every single 187 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: year in football, and it just shows you the information 188 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: that is on the outside is not the information that 189 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: is on the inside. So I love mock drafts as 190 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: much as anybody. I love talking about the draft. I 191 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: love talking about prospects. It's very, very enjoyable. But when 192 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: you do these mocks and you do these big boards, 193 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: the media is not the market. The market is the teams, 194 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: and they determine where guys go. And it happens every 195 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: single year. Oh how what a steal, especially in football. Right, 196 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: you got this guy at the end of the second round. Well, 197 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: every single team in the league passed on that guy 198 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: multiple times. Now, he might end up becoming AJ Brown 199 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: or DK Mecka, but at the time he's coming out, 200 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: there are clearly red flags internally around the league on 201 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: these players. And I think the hard part is, and 202 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: it's become more and more difficult in modern day times 203 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: because so many people are kind of scared a social media. 204 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: It was easy with Jalen Carter, right, there was an 205 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: incident when people lost their life, right, But I had 206 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: been hearing negative things about Jalen Carter for over twelve months. 207 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: But it's not really my job to come out and 208 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: brush you bash a kid, I don't really care enough, 209 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: but the negative innuendo is probably the wrong way to 210 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: put it. But just you know, Aura around following him 211 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: from the program was very very loud in NFL circles. 212 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: But there's this line because as a scout, as a 213 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: general manager, as an assistant GM, even as an assistant coach, 214 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: when I go into these schools or I call my 215 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: buddies at these programs and they start shitting on a 216 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: kid and they start crushing his character, you are very 217 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: protective of letting that information out because then it makes 218 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: the program look bad. And these programs are very very 219 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: careful about what information becomes public. Like they will tell 220 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: their you know, professional brethren, what the negative situation is 221 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: with an individual player, but they they often are very 222 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: very tight lift about, hey, keep this between us because 223 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: we don't want it coming out that we are bashing 224 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: the player. And you know, hearing some different podcasts stuff 225 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: come out that like Villanova was not super high on 226 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: this guy around NBA circles, part of the reason that 227 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: he fell the number twenty. But when all these media 228 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: people are anointing this guy as a top six or 229 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: seven player, it just shows you how irrelevant all that 230 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: is because the market is not these mock drafts. And 231 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: it goes the opposite way too. I remember I was 232 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: reading some one of the blogs that Florio put out. 233 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: I think Dan POMPEII, longtime writer, you write some fantastic, 234 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: like long form stuff. I remember he did a long 235 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: expose years ago on Josh McDaniels about it. He was 236 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: like changing his whole thing, like he would write positive 237 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: notes to himself. It was all about working on his failures, 238 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: the Denver situation that's really paid off. So he wrote 239 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: this long thing where he talked to all these people 240 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurst, Howie, Jeffrey Luriy, Doug Peterson. And that's 241 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: a good example. If you just pled most scouts around 242 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: the NFL Jalen's year, I bet most guys would have 243 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: had him fourth, fifth round. I just scout from my 244 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: couch now, But I got a pretty good idea. If 245 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: I watch a guy at a school play, you know, 246 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: when you played a school like Oklahoma, Alabama, lsu USC, 247 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm watching you play, even if it's on my couch 248 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: or five times during the year, and it's like I 249 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: can't I'm not gonna be able to judge a guard, 250 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: but when it comes to quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs, 251 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: maybe a pass rusher. You know, by the end of 252 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: the year, I got a pretty good idea, and I 253 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: was not very high on the guy. I would have said, 254 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: mid fourth, fifth round. I thought he was a running back. 255 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Now I thought he could have been a really good run 256 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. I thought he could have been a 257 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: top five running back in the NFL, and he's proven 258 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: to be an elite runner of the football. But what 259 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know is what has separated him since getting 260 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: into the NFL. His work ethic, his desire, his willingness 261 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: to do whatever it takes. How great of a teammate 262 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: he is, how quickly the older guys on that team, 263 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: guys that are heading to the Hall of Fame, gravitated 264 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: toward him, which is obviously the complete opposite with Carson Wentz, 265 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: who you know, not even in the NFL right now, 266 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is sitting on the sideline. Well, of course 267 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: he is. There are a lot of questions with Carson Wentz, 268 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: like people don't like him. Well, Carson Wentz is no 269 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: longer a starting quarterback. I don't want a backup quarterback 270 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: that people don't like. You know, who wants to be 271 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: around that guy. Most of the backup quarterbacks when you 272 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: look around the NFL that aren't on a rookie contract 273 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: are older guys that people liked. I saw a good 274 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: quote going around social media over the last couple of 275 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: weeks and Howard Mud or not Howard Mud Tom Moore? 276 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Remember Howard Mud Tom Moore, The two old curmudgeon guys 277 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: were always there those great Colts teams with Peyton and 278 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: I worked with Howard with the Eagles. I mean he's 279 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: a Curmudgeons curmudgeon, but he was an elite offensive line. 280 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: Coach asked Jason Kelsey about him and Tom Moore, who 281 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: I think was more of the passing game. Howard was 282 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: more of the offensive line, and they asked why they 283 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: didn't put more resources or no, someone asked him. It 284 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: was John Gruden. It was when John Gruden was doing 285 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, and clearly they would have a lot 286 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: of Colts games with Peyton Manning and he would go 287 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: to practice and he was like, taken back, why the 288 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: backup quarterback didn't get any reps? And Tom said, because 289 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: if Peyton goes down, were fucked, and we don't practice fucked. 290 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: I was like, what a line, But it's so true. 291 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: Peyton went down there the worst team in the league. 292 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: When you have Peyton Manning or a team you're all 293 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: in on Peyton Manning, there is no backup plan and 294 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: there are things that you can't quantify. And part of 295 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: this article, I think was how he's talked about in 296 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: his couple decades with the Eagles, how many times backup 297 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have had a huge impact, going back to Jeff Garcia, 298 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: to Michael Vick and obviously Foles and now with Jalen. 299 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: But they really really believed in the person, and clearly 300 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: he's better than anyone could have expected. But they took 301 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: him where most people would not have taken. I feel 302 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: pretty good, and I by no means can like text 303 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: someone on every team. But I've been around this league 304 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: long enough, I've been watching players long enough to go. 305 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: I bet most teams did not have him remotely that close. 306 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: I would say the majority of teams had him as 307 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: a third day pick and would not have pulled the 308 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: trigger on Jalen Hurts in the second round. That move 309 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: changed their franchise. I mean it really did. It's one thing, 310 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: like the forty nine ers. Do they get credit for 311 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: drafting brock Purty. Of course, because anytime you draft any player, 312 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: whether it's the number one overall pick, whor it's the 313 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: last pick in the draft, you had to make the 314 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: call to your guy in the draft room to say 315 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: write his name down, so you get credit. Well, let's 316 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: be real, why did they draft brock Purty Because they 317 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: wanted to ensure that they got him as an undrafted 318 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: free agent. If they loved him and thought he would 319 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: be half of what they saw at the end of 320 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, they would have drafted him like a 321 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: third or fourth round. So there's a huge element of 322 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: luck to that. There's an element of luck to draft 323 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: in Jalen Hurts. But this whole draft is taking information 324 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: you have based on your own experiences, and it's easy 325 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: with a guy like Jalen. Everyone's swearing by him, right, 326 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, Lincoln Riley, They'll they are all saying good things. 327 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: You get guys, you know, under the umbrella of Jalen. 328 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: Carter and George has had some of these guys over 329 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: the years. Two years ago, some of the guys that 330 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: were coming out, you know, Niakobe dean super high level guy. 331 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: Then there were some other guys I'm not gonna name 332 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: names that I think you know, depending on who you 333 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: talk with, the program would go yeah, you know this 334 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: is but that's part of the deal. And then it's 335 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: just about managing can we handle it or can we not? 336 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: And then there's the factor of the medical And I've 337 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: said this forever as a general manager. As a head coach, 338 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: you know nothing about the medical in terms of when 339 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: a doctor goes listen, we see some things there. It 340 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: could be degenerate, it might not be, but it's definitely risky. 341 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: It's on you to just yeah, we'll just take the risk. Right. 342 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: You can't you didn't go to medical school. Most of 343 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: these coaches have had a whistle around their neck since 344 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: they were twenty two to twenty three years old, so 345 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: that the whole draft process, it's funny to watch the 346 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: reaction when a guy quote unquote falls or a guy 347 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: quote unquote goes way early. And then we also Jimi Hawks, 348 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: the dude from UCLA who's you know, twenty three years old, 349 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: who's been at UCLA forever. You know a lot of 350 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: people thought, you know, fringe first round pick. But he 351 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: goes to the Heat at pick eighteen, Everyone's like, love 352 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: the pick. Well, of course you do, because you're like, well, 353 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: this guy was one of UCLA's best players over the 354 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: last couple of years. They've been one of the best players. 355 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: He's older, not a great athlete, but just a really, 356 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: really good basketball player. Would you like him if you 357 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: went to the Hornets? Would you like him if you 358 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: went to the Orlando Magic or the Houston Rockets? Probably not. 359 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: But if he goes to the Heat, you fuck, that's 360 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: gonna work. Dude's gonna play. He's gonna be a factor. 361 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: It is no different football, right, Jalen Carter, How many 362 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: of you guys that are Bears fans they are Lions fans, 363 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: that are Falcons fans. You guys, DM me, you DM me. 364 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: You're like, why didn't we take them? Why didn't we 365 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: take too risky? You guys do not have the infrastructure 366 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: to do it. But the Eagles take him a genius pick. 367 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: They got all his teammates, they got Flincher Cox, they 368 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: got Jason Kelcey and Lane Johnson to corral them. It's 369 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna work, and it might and it might not. No 370 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: one truly does You're dealing with humans, but fascinating to 371 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: watch it all play out. Love a good draft. I 372 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: love the reaction to the reaction. You know, everyone the 373 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: moment of guy's picked, everyone gives a reaction, and then 374 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: like a day or two later, everyone's reacting to the reaction. 375 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: I just find the whole process fascinating. In the couple 376 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: days post a draft, a couple other quick things, you know. 377 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: I tweeted this out coach football Kids, Paradise Valley. It's 378 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: where I'm staying right now. I'm moving probably twenty minutes 379 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: north of here, but it's it's Debt by far the 380 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: richest area in the Greater Scottsdale. It's homes going, you know, 381 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: for anywhere from six to seven million to twenty million dollars. 382 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: It's the famous picture of Kingsbury lives in Paradise Valley. 383 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: A ton of players live here, former players live here, 384 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: from the Carson Palmers to the Larry FitzGeralds to the 385 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: JJ Watts, and just people with way more money than them. 386 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I saw my girlfriend's in real estate and she's I 387 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: was grabbing some lunch earlier day. She's like, you see 388 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: the head coach for the Cardinals just bought a ten 389 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: point five million dollar house. I was like, you know 390 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: what's crazy is it's not like he's a ten year 391 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: coordinator and he's been making seven figures. He's only been 392 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: a coordinator for couple of years. And then he became 393 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: a head coach. And I remember a guy told me 394 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: years ago. I was like, why are you taking this job? 395 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: And he was a quarterback coach going for an offensive coordinator, 396 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: and he's like, the money is so big, I can't 397 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: turn it down. They're going to give me, you know, 398 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: one and a half million dollars a year and guarantee 399 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: three years. I mean we're talking four or five million dollars, 400 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: and then if we have a good year, I'm a 401 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: year away help maybe six months away from not just 402 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: interviewing for a head coach, but if the interview goes well, 403 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: I become a guy with a thirty forty million dollar contract. 404 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: And you know, Maria, she's got some different websites. She 405 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: can go to the real estate agents. And I saw 406 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: how much this guy put down. Let's just say it 407 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: wasn't that much. The loan he got is massive, So 408 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: to qualify for a loan of that size guy's making 409 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: some serious coin. And I would imagine Jonathan Gannon. I mean, 410 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: he's the head coach for quote unquote the cheapest organization 411 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: in the league. Guess he's making seven eight million dollars 412 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: a year. So when the banks's you know, he's got it, 413 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: guaranteed seven million dollars coming. Whether he's got he keeps 414 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: the job or gets fired over the next four years. Now, 415 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: it's a crazy amount of money. I've been hammering this 416 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: home for a long time that the NFL has turned 417 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: into Wall Street on grass. Everyone's getting rich. Everybody, players, coaches, GMS, obviously, 418 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: the owners, the TV partners, everyone's surrounded with the NFL 419 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: right now is benefiting. Hell, I can raise my own hand. 420 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: I've directly benefited as just someone that talks about football. 421 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: You can't say the same thing for baseball. How most 422 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: baseball managers don't even make seven figures. There's no big 423 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: baseball podcasts right The players are getting rich, the owners, 424 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: I guess, depending on what team you own. But in 425 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: basketball you're talking about a very very small number of people, 426 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: and beside the head coaches in basketball, I remember talking 427 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: to someone around the NBM like, how many assistants make 428 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: seven figures, Like what kind of depends on the team. 429 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: Like the Warriors, for example, they had Kenny Atkinson, you know, 430 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: Mike Brown was their assistant forever. They always had a 431 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: number two guy making a lot of money, and certain 432 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: teams do, but a lot of teams do not have 433 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: a assistant coach making seven figures. There is not a 434 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: coordinator in the NFL offensive or defensive, and obviously not 435 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: every offensive coordinator even calls the plays because sometimes the 436 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: head coach does. That makes under seven figures. So the 437 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: amount of money that is getting thrown around with these coaches, 438 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: it's why the there's so much pressure. They're getting paid 439 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: so much. But it's really just a line item. Now 440 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: that the these television deals have gotten so astronomical, and 441 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: unlike golf, who had to get in bed with the 442 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: Sadi's because they could not sustain paying twenty million dollars 443 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: perses to elevated events. They couldn't do it. It was all 444 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: it was all giant fugazi. It was fake money. It 445 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: was not a sustainable thing. I mean it was it 446 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: was going to come crashing down. And still, Mike, We'll 447 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: see and see if the thing passes through the government, 448 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: but which it probably will because you know the government's 449 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: in bed with Sadi. So that's a whole other topic 450 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: that we'll discuss on go LO coming up this week. 451 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: But ultimately, it's it's pretty crazy how much coin these 452 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: these first time head coaches and definitely these coordinators are making. 453 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: And I saw Sean McDermott. I think this happened on Friday, 454 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: him and Brandon Bean got extended. And I think there's 455 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: been a lot of people, you know, ask me, do 456 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: they think it's Sean McDermott on the hot seat? People 457 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: on social media like why are you extending this guy? 458 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think people forget how shitty it 459 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: was for Buffalo till he got there. I'm pretty sure 460 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: remember when Kyle Kyle Williams when Andy Dalton had to 461 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: come back and he was crying in the locker room. 462 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: The Bills hadn't made the playoffs in almost two decades, 463 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: and I look before I hopped on here and pressed 464 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: record did over the last three three seasons, thirteen, eleven 465 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: and thirteen. That's their win totals the last three years. 466 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: They have won the division every single year for three 467 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: straight years in a division that was clearly basically for 468 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: two decades dominated by Belichick and Brady, and they're going 469 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: to be the favorite to win that division again this season. 470 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: You win the division three years in a row, that 471 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: means you're hosting home playoff games. I think of the 472 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: last two years. Beat the Dolphins, beat the Patriots. Then 473 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: you start beating your division rivals in playoff games. I 474 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: know they had a big letdown the last two years. 475 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: Right last year was an ass kicking that they got 476 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: worked and two years ago, I mean a freaky ending. 477 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: It was coaches are to blame, but you know it 478 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: took a pretty crazy circumstance for that thing not to 479 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: work out. Through what are the Chiefs game? Forty yards 480 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: and thirteen seconds? You probably could simulate that one hundred 481 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: times and it would only you would only get a 482 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: field goal attempt that you could make once, and they 483 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: did works in. The Chiefs deserve credit, but the Bills. 484 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: This is a reality. Sometimes when life changes, your expectations change. 485 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Right when you get your first job out of college, 486 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: if someone pays you a thirty forty grand, you're like 487 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: a pick and shit, like I got some money, I 488 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: got a job, I got a place to go and 489 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: then his life. As you get older, maybe get in 490 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: your mid thirties and you're making two hundred grand and 491 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: you've got a family, your expectations of just life changes 492 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: one point in time. You know, everything in life is 493 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: all relative. Things that made you happy when you're eighteen 494 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: no longer make you happy sometimes when you're thirty or 495 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: when you're fifty. Right, just life changes. And once you 496 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: start sniffing success. I don't care what industry you're in, 497 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: but definitely in sports, and you start getting close, you 498 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: forget really quickly how dark the times were. I see 499 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: it with the Niners. It's like Kyle Shanahan, what he's 500 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: been to three NFC championship games in four years. I 501 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: remember for about fifteen years before orball, it was a 502 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of Mike Nolan's, Mike Singletary's, and some Jim tom 503 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: Sulas and Chip Kelly mixing there as well. Like do 504 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: you want to win the Super Bowl? Only one guy 505 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: can really do that? Right And right now Andy Reid 506 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes feel like they have the market cornered 507 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. And if Tom Brady now that he's gone, 508 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: like Chiefs are going to be the favorite again this 509 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: year so like you're going to the playoffs. Listen, I'm 510 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: hard on Mike McCarthy, right, I don't blame anyone that's 511 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: hard on Mike McCarthy. But if he's winning twelve plus 512 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: games every year and they're hosting playoff games winning one. 513 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: I know they haven't been in the NFC Championship game 514 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: in almost three decades, but Nimes could be a lot 515 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: worse for Dallas Cowboy fans. Remember with Jason Garrett going 516 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: eight and eight every year, how that felt? That sucked? 517 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Now going twelve wins, winning a first round playoff game, 518 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: beating the shit out of Brady, having a close game 519 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: with the Niners could be a lot worse. Okay, we're 520 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: going a little mailbag here. Very easy to get in 521 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: the mail bag. All you do is go to my 522 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: direct messages on Instagram at John Middlecoff. A lot of 523 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: people over the years President State Philadelphia Eagles have only 524 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: put one f. It's got two f's at John Middlecoff Instagram, 525 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: DMS wide open. The easiest way to get a hold 526 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: of me. Start with my man, do you think Tony 527 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Romo was a good quarterback? Heard Collins take that he 528 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: was a b quarterback? And went on a stat field 529 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: defense of Romo. I'm a lifelong Cowboys fan, all Caps 530 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: life long. I'm so old. I remember Dan Meredith and 531 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: that young Navy guy Roger Stallback. Romo is a nice guy, 532 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: but he's not a quote unquote good quarterback. He heard 533 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: his pinky on a non throwing hand and sat out 534 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: after he got a big payday. Stallback broke his finger 535 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: on a helmet of a Washington redskin and yankso tape 536 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: from a guy's thidpad and as a crooked finger to 537 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: this day, that's the difference between great and Meh Okay, 538 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: if you're gonna compare any Dallas Cowboy quarterback to Stallbach 539 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: or Aikman, yeah, I mean we're gonna have a hard 540 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: time thinking the guy you know was good enough. Right, 541 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about guys winning chips, winning playoff games. But 542 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: like if you com bear Jimmy Garoppolo to Steve Young 543 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: and Joe Montana, he's gonna look pretty shitty. But when 544 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: you know you're going winning playoff games with a guy, 545 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: it's not so bad. So I think a lot like 546 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott relative to all time great quarterbacks or even 547 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: the rest of some of their contemporaries. He's not as good, 548 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: But is Dak Prescott pretty good? Yes? Was Tony Romo 549 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: pretty good? Yes? Both guys turned the ball over a lot. 550 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: Tony Romo clearly a little more reckless with his body 551 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: because I also were gonna put back it seems like 552 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: you were insinuating that Romo is a little soft, didn't 553 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: play games like a messed up spleen, didn't he battle 554 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: through injuries. I will say this about Tony Romo. When 555 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: I think my time watching Romo, I think tough guy. 556 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: I think a throwback. Now do I think a guy 557 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: that had some legendary letdowns, had some moments that left 558 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: more to be desired, of course, but the same is 559 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: currently happening with Dak Prescott. I think both are good quarterbacks. 560 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: Are either Mahomes or either Joe Burrow in Romo. Think 561 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: about some of his contemporaries, right, Peyton Manning, Rogers, Brady Roethlisberger. 562 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's not anywhere near as good as those guys. 563 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be a Hall of Famer, right, But 564 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: was he a damn good quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. 565 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident saying that is he Roger Stallbach 566 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: or Troy Aikman no a huge fan of the pod. 567 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm a big Eagles fan and wanted to ask what 568 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: you think realistic expectation is for Jalen Carter in his 569 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: rookie season. I think sometimes, and I'm guilty of this, 570 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: that we kind of our expectations get a little out 571 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: of whack with rookie, especially on good teams. Right Jordan 572 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Davis is a good example. Right, you got drafted last 573 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: year pretty high expectations, then it gets banged up and 574 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: he's just I wouldn't say he's out of sight, out 575 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: of mind, but you know, for a guy that was 576 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: drafted really high, I would say he had somewhat of 577 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: an underwhelming individual season. As a team, as a defense, 578 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: they were awesome. Obviously you can't predict injuries, but they 579 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: do have a direct need once they lose Hardgrave to 580 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers with interior pass rushers. Butcher Cox 581 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: is nowhere near what he once was, so I think 582 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: between him and Davis, now Davis has been in the 583 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: league for a year now, I think if you can 584 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: get a combined eight nine sacks, I think I would 585 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: say individually for Jalen Carter. If you get five sacks 586 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: and just be active, you know, I think that'd be 587 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: pretty pretty awesome for them. I think he's going to 588 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: be used early on. They're gonna ease him into it. 589 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: What would be my guess. They're not just gonna try 590 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: to hit the ground running and make him some all 591 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: pro I also think he's gonna have to earn it. 592 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be There's a team that's pretty 593 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: well established, a lot of veteran players at every position. 594 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna hand a shit. So 595 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to earn it with his actions off 596 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: the field, the way he acts, the way he operates 597 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: leading up to games. Now, this is the NFL, just 598 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: like when he played at Georgia. It's a production based business, right, 599 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: So if he's making plays, he's gonna get to play. 600 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: But I would say my expectations for him is just 601 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: to be probably more of an impact player as the 602 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: year goes along. I wouldn't just expect like defensive rookie 603 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: of the Year. I also think it's harder to be 604 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: like a standout on a team with other really good players. 605 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: Were in theory of black Eye, He's gonna have a 606 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: big season. He's playing with how many sweet players kind 607 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: of get lost in the shuff a little bit. Maybe 608 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: he's just that talented. We'll see, but my expectations will 609 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: just be a lot of flash plays throughout the year. 610 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: I could also see, you know, maybe a little out 611 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: of shape come like early October, and then they kind 612 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: of whip them into, you know, in the gear the 613 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: older guys. I can see it being a little bit 614 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: of an up and down year four. But he's definitely 615 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: gonna have some plays where it's like, holy shit. Most rookies, 616 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: I would say, I lean especially talented ones that are 617 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: on talented teams. It feels like they usually come on 618 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: year two, year three. Now some guys hit the ground 619 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: running and just dominate. Bosa Miles, Garrett Khalil Mack as 620 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: a rookie was pretty unreal. But the expectation like they 621 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: just got to played unlimited amount snaps. Hey love the pod. 622 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,959 Speaker 1: You guys should consider talking about sports cards. People would 623 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, I just don't know much about them. 624 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: I don't really play that game. We just kind of 625 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: talk about on the show. What I like. It doesn't 626 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: mean that everyone likes it. I probably leave some stuff out. Obviously, 627 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: we don't do a huge fantasy football once the season 628 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: starts on the show, but that's just not really my 629 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: cup of tea. I just can be me though. I've 630 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: always been fascinated ever since Gary Ve started hyping up 631 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: those sports cards. Hey, John, love the work you've been doing. 632 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: What are your expectations for Justin Fields and the Bears 633 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: with their improved roster. I feel like they could be 634 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: anywhere in the range of seven to ten to eleven 635 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: and six if the Chicago Bears want eleven and six 636 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: this year. I mean, Justin Fields might be a pro bowler, 637 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: you said, because they're easy schedule. I don't know their 638 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: schedule up. I think my expectations for Justin Fields is 639 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: to be a much more explosive, explosive passer. As we 640 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: saw last year, his running ability was like shades of 641 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: Pete Lamar. It was pretty freaking incredible. You know, remember 642 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: the one clip that kind of went viral of Mike 643 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: McDaniel's telling him to stop running because he was killing them. 644 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: As a runner. Fields is every bit the athlete and 645 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: every bit as instinctive and natural as anyone that watched 646 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: him in his collegiate career, or you could just YouTube 647 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: his high school highlights. To me, it's gonna be like, 648 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: can he have consistent sustain twenty two of thirty eight 649 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: that's not even great, but twenty two of thirty six 650 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: ring that you know he's not going to be just 651 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: a field, is not gonna be a sixty six percent passer? 652 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: Can he be like low sixties but beat throw for 653 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: three hundred yards, throw a couple of touchdowns, and just 654 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: kind of build on those back to back to back 655 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: to back weeks. Because I think, and I've heard Michael 656 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: Lombardi say this, they were the worst team league. Obviously, 657 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: they drafted number one overall until they traded the pick. 658 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: They averaged I think twenty two pass attempts a game. 659 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: They wouldn't let him throw. Now, you could argue that's 660 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: because of their personnel around him. You add DJ Moore, 661 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, Infory Chase Claypool. Now there have been some 662 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: rumors coming out do they like him? Is he all in? 663 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: Does he even like football? So there was a viral 664 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: video today of him in France. He's like a male 665 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: model or something. I would never do business with the 666 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers wanting to trade me a wide receiver. Like, wait, 667 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: you guys are the best wide receiver drafting team in 668 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: the league, and you want to trade me one of them. 669 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: I got a red flag. I don't see that. Leave 670 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: the last couple, Claypool. That was a heist. They got 671 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: the thirty third overall draft pick Antonio Brown. Remember how 672 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: that thing went for the Raiders. I'm a die hard 673 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: Hawks fan and used to being a small market, but 674 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: no one is giving them their They got Draymond Jones 675 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: and Bobby Wagner this offseason to pair with another big 676 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: rookie class with some college stars. Not to mention Jamal 677 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: Adams coming back healthy pretty big. If Jamal Adams gets 678 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: hurt a lot, don't see how we don't improve and 679 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: give the Niners a run for their money. We also 680 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: have a lot to work for you in any facet, 681 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: especially on your go lopod big golf guy. Oh, you 682 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: want to work for me? Currently working toward a sports 683 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: business degree. I like this guy. Get some Joey good 684 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: luck to you. I think Seattle's I'm going to pick 685 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: him to make the playoffs again. I do think it's 686 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: fair to go. They got thirty touchdowns out of Gino Simith, 687 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: and he was awesome. He was a Pro Bowl level player, 688 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: comeback player of the Year, easy to root for, seemed 689 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: just like a fantastic guy. Right They wrote him off, 690 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: but he didn't write back one of the best lines. 691 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: I don't care any industry in twenty twenty two or 692 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: twenty three. Yeah, I was twenty two. That was awesome. 693 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: But is he gonna do it again? So he's just 694 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna throw sixty touchdowns in two years. It'd be an 695 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: all time career resurrection. Now you'd go, well, John, They 696 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: got DK Metcalf, one of the best wide receivers in 697 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: the league. They got Jackson Smith, who those players in Seattle, 698 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: O Tas are claiming like he's going to be a 699 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Tyler Lockett could still play. Kenneth Walker's 700 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: a stud. They drafted Charbonney, the running back from UCLA, 701 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: who I'm pretty sure he started his career at the 702 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: University of Michigan. He's a stud. So we know the 703 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: two tackles they drafted two years ago should be better. 704 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: I do think the Niners top to bottom are better. 705 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: And you know what I saw at a purty like, 706 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: what the hell's the difference. So the Niners team is 707 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,479 Speaker 1: just better. I mean they swept him last year three 708 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 1: and zero. Now, when Russell was there, the Niners could 709 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: not beat Seattle. It was very, very difficult. Well, I 710 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: think Russell's career record against the forty nine ers in 711 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: his whatever nine years with the Seahawks was like it 712 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: was something stupid. I forgot to top my Maybe it 713 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: was like seventeen to three. He owned them. The owner 714 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: ag ended last year. So I'm gonna pick the Niners 715 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: doing the division. But I'm with you, Seattle's gonna be good. 716 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: I thought last year. I don't want to say it 717 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: was flooky, but towards the end of the year they 718 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: were running out of steam a little bit. I think 719 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: consistently they'll just be better. I think their team is better. 720 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm not counting on Jamal Adams. Like what is Jamal Adams? 721 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: A linebacker? Can't cover a soul? He gets injured a lot. 722 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: To me, you don't even need them. But he went 723 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: away and you guys run faced. I would say, can 724 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: you run? Can you be a top five run team 725 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: in the league with those running backs? And then anytime 726 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: you can run it like that, which they have in 727 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: the past, the play action game with those wide receivers. 728 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: Maybe Gino does have another good year, but I would 729 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: still pick them to be like a one and done 730 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: playoff team, which if you tell me you traded Russell 731 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: Wilson got everything and then you went to the playoffs 732 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: back to back years, it's pretty impressive. Man, really is 733 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: definitely my favorite sports person. What was a player that 734 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: you scouted that you were really high on that wasn't 735 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: what you thought and a more underrated player that you 736 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: were high on that was really good. Also, if you 737 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: weren't let go from scouting in the NFL, would you 738 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: still be doing it. I don't know. I would say 739 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: probably not. But sometimes in life, you know, I think 740 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: there's a small percentage of people that know that aren't 741 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: like athletes or singers or something. They're just so talented 742 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: that it's like, what I'm gonna do that, just go 743 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be this, I'm gonna do this. And I 744 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: worked with some of those guys. Howie Rosaman is one. 745 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to be an NFL GM over my dead body, 746 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to work in football, And I wasn't really 747 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: like that. It's just one of those things that happened, 748 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: so I, you know, have changed professions multiple times, and 749 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: so I would doubt it. I really would that. I 750 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: don't know if i'd be doing this. There's an element 751 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: of luck that led me to the podcasting world, but 752 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't think i'd still be scouting. You know, for 753 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: my first couple of years, I was doing much more 754 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: pro football, and when you do pro I didn't like 755 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: it as much. You're basically just sitting in the office 756 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: fifteen hours a day just watching football players. But it's 757 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: not like you're watching it on television like you and 758 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: I do now on Sunday or Saturday. It's quiet. You're 759 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 1: just watching the All twenty two and you're just writing 760 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: reports on guys in the league and the character stuff. 761 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: One thing I really enjoyed when I did college for 762 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: a year and worked on the road was the character 763 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: stuff and finding out about the guy. Once the guy's 764 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL, you're just writing them up as a player. 765 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: You have all the character information, so you just is 766 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: the guy playing well? Is he not playing well? Is 767 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: he a free agent? Should we be interested? Is he 768 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: a practice squad guy? Should we try to claim him? 769 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: Spent a lot of time doing that it's just very 770 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: cut and dry. There's not much emotion behind it once 771 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: you get to college. You know, I wasn't big Matt 772 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: Barkley guy. Now, Chip and I argued about it because 773 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: I said, this guy can never play in Philadelphia. Well, 774 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: he drafted him, and in fairness to Matt, I was wrong. 775 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: He's still in the league, pretty sure. He's on the 776 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: Bills right now, so he's had a decade long career. 777 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: I would have thought he would have made it in 778 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: the NFL a couple of seasons. Now there are guys that, 779 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, Ziggiyansa's or Deon Jordan's or Star Lotali. Do 780 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: you just think are going to be impact level players 781 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 1: that whether it be injuries, whether it be focus slash, 782 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: character stuff, or whether it just be you know, the 783 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: game kind of changed and it was much more of 784 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: a pass heavy league and run stuffing defensive tackles aren't 785 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: as valuable. So things change on you. But the year 786 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: I did the West Coast, I was a big Robert 787 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: Woods guy, and once he got with the Rams, he 788 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 1: he kind of proved that he was a really good player. 789 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, talk to my buddies once 790 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: you do an area or college for a decade, you 791 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: have a million of those. The majority of the guys 792 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: that I watched when I was in the NFL were 793 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and you just like, you know, I 794 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: really like ray Lewis, getting old, trending down. You're spending 795 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: a lot of time doing stuff like that. What's your 796 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: take on the Lions in Seattle trading away their franchise 797 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and thus, in my opinion, reinvigorating their franchises for 798 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: the players in draft capital they received. Especially for the Lions, 799 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: I think this was the best move the Lions have 800 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 1: made in the last decade. Even though I still hate 801 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: what the Lions did in the first round of the 802 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: twenty three draft, I disagree. I like the Lions draft. 803 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: I think both teams fall under this category. If they 804 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: would have had Baker Mayfield or some random quarterback, it 805 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: probably would have looked ugly and we would not be positive. 806 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: Where they both deserve credit is the Lions asked for 807 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: Jared Goff in the trade, and Jared Goff last year 808 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 1: was really good, and Seattle felt pretty good about having 809 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: gdol on their ross and said we can play and 810 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: win with this guy. So part of the reason we 811 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: look at those two teams is like trending in the 812 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 1: right direction, making good moves, trading the quarterback is because 813 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: they had veteran quarterbacks that, let's face it, I thought 814 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: Jared Goff sucked. I never would have thought in a 815 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: million years Geno Smith could throw thirty touchdowns in a 816 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: season for a playoff team. It is early thirties. So 817 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: those teams deserve a lot of credit for scouting, whether 818 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: it be you know, acquiring golf or a guy on 819 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: their team, believing in them and then coaching the guy 820 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 1: up and putting him in a position to have success. 821 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: Because if you give a team a random look at 822 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: the Saints, look at their quarterback situation last year, you 823 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: give some of these teams like Andy Dalton or Baker 824 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: Mayfield or not trying to shit on Baker Mayfield, but 825 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: he's your quarterback right now, you're gonna lose. So that's 826 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: a big, big reason is they had guys that they 827 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: could plug in and immediately, I would say, not just function, 828 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,959 Speaker 1: but have some success. Love the show, listen all the time, 829 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: love your insight. Don't always agree, but that is what 830 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: makes America great. Big freedom of speech guy here, so 831 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: I really tired of hearing Colin and others saying that 832 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: the Giants screwed themselves by signing Daniel Jones and now 833 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: they have to pay Barkley. I love Barkley as a player, 834 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: but think that you can find a running back like 835 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: him in the second or third in later rounds and 836 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: not have to pay them. Totally agree. What are your 837 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 1: thoughts on not having to pay Barkley? I just wouldn't 838 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: do it, but I'm just not doing it. I've said 839 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: over and over that this has been a very lucrative 840 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: deal for Saquon Barkley. He was drafted number two overall, 841 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: He's made thirty eight million dollars. Most running backs this 842 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: year were making five or six million dollars in free agency. 843 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: They're almost paying him eleven. But at the end of 844 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 1: this year he will have made forty eight million dollars 845 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: over six seasons, an average close to eight million dollars. 846 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: I think it actually is eight million dollars a year, 847 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of properly paid for what he's brought to the table. 848 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: And did I love the Daniel Jones. I might have 849 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: let him both hit free agency, right, Like, who's paying 850 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones? Who was I competing against. I think a 851 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley hit free agency. I just don't see who 852 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: pays him, not more than maybe I would say the 853 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: most twenty million dollars. Remember Leveon Bell sat out a 854 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: season and since he said that's the worst decision of 855 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: his life, even though everyone in the media and all 856 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: the former players were saying, like, this guy is a trailblazer. Yeah, 857 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: trailblazing his career right out of the league and losing 858 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: fifteen or fourteen million dollars on a second franchise stack 859 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: one of the stupidest business decisions in the history of 860 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: America that was celebrated by these fucking morons with too 861 00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 1: many journalism degrees working at ESPN. But I don't want 862 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: to go down that rabbit hole. That's still that's that's 863 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: one of my one take that I do not regret 864 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: having feel like I nailed that one. I would just 865 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: say I would have let both these guys hit free 866 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: agency and sign them both for cheaper deals. Now, maybe 867 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: Joe Shane and Brian day Ball would say we can't 868 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: take that risk, and I go, I can hear you. 869 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: With Daniel Jones, I couldn't take the risk of letting 870 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: him hit free agency and go, okay, see what you 871 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,280 Speaker 1: can get, and then someone does pay me as a quarterback. 872 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,280 Speaker 1: But I just don't see who would have paid Saquon Barkley. 873 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: I really don't, So I would just play it on 874 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: the franchise tag like I don't think Saquon Barkley. It's 875 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: not like he last year when DK metcalf, aj Brown 876 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 1: and Deebo Samuel all wanted to get paid. I ran 877 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: into this guy at the gym today who said he 878 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: was at Talking Stick, which is the anyone that's been 879 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: to Scottsdales the It's the Indian casino right off the highway. 880 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: He was playing craps and he's like, you know, I 881 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: was playing crap with I don't think a guy quite 882 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: knows what I do, even though I talked to him 883 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: a decent amount. He's like, Deebo Samuel, you know who 884 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: that is. I'm like, yeah, I've heard of him. I've 885 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,919 Speaker 1: heard of him. I was like, then I started picking 886 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: for what was he like. He's like, he was great. 887 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: We were had a great time. They played crafts for 888 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: a couple hours. So Debo's Deebo's doing pretty well. I 889 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: guess they had a guy came in. It was just 890 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: was hot until a lot of people were making money. 891 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: But those guys, remember were you know, second round picks, 892 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: especially AJ and DK late second round picks. It was 893 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: like time to get paid. We've been Pro bowlers. I'm sorry, 894 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: saquanm like you've been broken off. Same with Daniel Jones, 895 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: like he'd been paid a lot. So you can't risk 896 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 1: not having a quarterback. You could definitely risk the running 897 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: back situation. So I'm with you. You could find even 898 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: if you can't find Saquon Barkley, I could find eighty 899 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: five percent of his value in the third round. That's 900 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: an objective fact. We see it all the time. And hell, 901 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: even if you miss on the running back, you get 902 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent, it might be good. So I 903 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: hear you. I I would just pay take one Barba 904 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: with the franchise tag my kind. That's that's what we're 905 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: going to play on now. I do expect the Giants 906 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: to give them like some three year, forty million dollar 907 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: thirty guaranteed, which I just think is bad business. That's 908 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 1: my that's my prediction. Appreciate everyone listening, Audios, the volume