WEBVTT - Episode 496 w/ Teddy Riley 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:00.400 Yo. 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.520 Finally we're here Drink Chances, the fourth Annual Black Inspector 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:04.840 Podcast Festivals. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:06.920 We're gonna be there, No, we's gonna tear it up. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:08.480 You know there's a lot of black people there, so 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.400 you listen to Deep Black as Hell. Hey from twenty 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.000 fifth Atlanta, Georgia. Please go get your tickets. I'm telling you, 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:13.920 go get your tickets. 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.280 I know how this happened. I've been going there. It's 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.760 been going there. You've been going there. Go get your tickets. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.360 He's going down Drink Chances, fourth annual Black Effect Black 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.960 Black Black Black Effects dot Com slash podcast festivals. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.960 He is Drink Chance Mother Bucky podcast man. He's a 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.960 legendary queens rapper. He's agreed as your Boy n O 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.159 r E. He's a Miami Hill pop lioneer up as 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.839 dj e f N. Together they drink it up with 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:53.800 some of the biggest players you know what I mean, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:58.160 and the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.720 source for drunks Drin Chance days New Year's Eve, It's 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:11.600 time for Drink Champs, drink up the would it good? 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.520 Be hoping He's wants to be It's your boy in 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.920 O r E. One of his dj E f N 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.480 This Militam Crazy world Y. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.440 Happy Hour makes the load. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.760 When I tell you, this man is an icon, and 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.080 this man is a legend. This man has shaped He 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:36.240 has made so many babies throughout this world because the 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.600 music that they was making babies too. He was making 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:43.080 it for you for decades and decades and decades. They 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:44.880 said he grabbed a guitar at three. 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:49.320 Years old and was making beats. Then I'm making that. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:57.320 This man, this is a legend of legend uh. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.560 From from from all the icons that he's worked with, 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.480 and he's this is something that. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.000 I've been wanting to do for so many years. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.120 When we started to show, we said that we wanted 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.640 to give people that paved the way before us. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.400 And this is a legend. This is this is a 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.799 real icon. This is a person that when you look 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.440 up I'm sorry to say it, when you look up music, 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:28.360 his picture, shit is gonna be right there. Music not music, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.760 not hip hop, not R and B music, period. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.440 This man has done the way. He's the reason why 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.280 most of us is here. And we won't give you 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.600 your flowers today. We want to show you how much 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.679 you mean to us. And in case you don't know 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.560 who we're talking about, the one, the only, the impeccable, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:55.840 motherfucking Before I get into everything, right, I'm gonna tell 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.760 you which is a great moment with me. Right, Me 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:01.880 and you are watching Pharrell's movie. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.560 Right, We're both at the premiere, sitting in the cluster, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.080 sitting across from each other. And this is how I 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:09.240 know you're a real person. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.320 I saw a genuine love when you saw him on 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.280 that screen. I got I was sitting right directly behind you, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.519 so I got to see you, like how I'm looking 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.360 at EFN right now And I saw you and then 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.519 look and the only of the time I've ever saw this. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.560 In life, I mean in music business. Let me just 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:31.440 limit it to. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.200 That was one time I went with with Knaves and 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:39.240 he watched rock him perform and I saw the joy 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:45.000 in Nod's face watching his his Uh that's his leader, right, 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.560 that's his and this is your protegect. This is I 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.760 know you, your humble guy. So yeah, but I saw the 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.440 happiness in your face. I got to see it, and 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:58.080 I was like, that is so that is so rare 0:03:58.480 --> 0:03:59.960 and seldom that people like. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.200 You show that love. You know what I'm saying, trying 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:11.000 to say like like like I sincerely saw that. Man. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.280 I was so happy. I'm always forever proud. And then 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.880 I remember I remember me talking to you and I 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.240 was like, you know, I didn't know what the fuck 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.680 I was doing in this movie and you said me, neither, Yeah, 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.600 we did five years before. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:28.040 Okay, so let's take it from there. Did you know 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.479 this was a Lego movie? Because I didn't know until 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:31.280 I was in there. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.680 I was told it was an animated movie. Ain't that 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.120 what I told you? They never said lego, They said 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:44.040 animated an Okay, just understand. When the trailer came out, 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.320 we were trying to tell him how big it was, 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.120 and he still didn't understand. I was like, no, I don't. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.560 I don't get it. I mean same thing. Somebody called 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.560 me and said, yo, mm hmm, your studio is coming 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.240 down like this. This is just dropping all right. I 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.760 was like, whoa. So when I first saw when I 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.600 saw it, M this is crazy. See what's next? And 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.320 then then it shows a little snippet you know, of me, 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:10.800 and I was like, oh, I look funny. I had 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.800 the big the big splitting my teeth and everything. It 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.239 was really wide. I was like I was like, Okay, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.720 this is this is dope. And then I had I 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:25.320 changed clothes in the movie and it's like you real life, 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:25.560 this is. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:33.560 I had a different clubs. So it's so dope. Like 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.360 you know, I've been we've been doing this. We're going 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:36.159 on ten years. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:43.960 Next month. And what I like to do is, you know, 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:45.200 I want to do research. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.080 And I got to say when I've said this a 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:48.760 couple of times, but what I got to say is 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.640 your history. It's probably the richest history I've ever like 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.760 really like googled and like just got because like you 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:58.279 control the music. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:03.760 For maybe four decades. Yeah, I've been in for this 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:04.640 is my forty year. 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.440 This is your forty year, right, And I'm looking and 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.159 I'm like, damn, bro, you know what's crazy. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:17.720 I don't remember not knowing you, like since I was 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.599 since you were aware of music, since I was aware. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.600 That's what's crazy. I feel like I know you my 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.200 whole life, and I know I don't, but the same thing. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.400 That's how Yeah, I feel the same way because you 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:34.240 coming for else's right. That's right, grandchildren, that's right, that's right, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.760 that's what that's That was the beauty part of seeing 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.480 that too, because obviously I had an album before I 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:42.599 met Forever when. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.320 That Pharrell took a chance on me and I took 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.840 a chance on him, right, right, But let's take it 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:49.920 to the beginning now, right. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:55.080 A lot of people credit you from Virginia, right, and. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:56.920 They say that he's a lot of people don't know 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.960 not only you from Harlem, You're from the part of 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.080 Harlem that probably ever existed. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:10.760 The pictures with you. Rich Water went to high school today, Okay, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:16.840 talking about because a lot of people don't know that, Like, 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.560 you know, that was your peer, that was literally your peer. Yeah, 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.920 I mean it's my big brother. You know. When we 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:28.320 went to high school. We used to scamble, scammer, gamble, oh, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:32.480 gamble Okay, yeah, I heard your gambler high school me Defer. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.680 Wait wait, how about Aceptford is like my nephew, Yes, 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.960 except which is deeper. I went to school with his father. Yes, 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:45.840 it's crazy. So all of the fathers, you know, our sons, 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:52.040 you know ya, no problem, we were taking Deferd used 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.800 to do all of our trucks. He did all the 0:07:54.840 --> 0:08:00.840 graffiti on our on our jeeps. Wow, pathfinders, m v 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:08.000 P s you know m P I knew exactly what 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:13.120 you meant Forget that. But yeah, I went to school 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.720 with almost everybody from the hood, right, but I lived 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:23.680 in every in every borough though except that now that okay, wow, 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:28.400 we started uptown. Oh wow. I lived in Queens, but 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.480 not long. Okay. I lived in the Bronx when I 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.520 moved from the projects. That was the first place I 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:39.280 moved was Riverdale, Okay, Yeahdale, and uh we got problems 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.000 up there. That's before they had a Starbucks. Now they 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:46.800 got a Starbucks. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay. Then I moved 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:54.199 to Jersey in Biggie's old house. Oh, in Great Neck right, okay, 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.240 so how how how does because I want to I 0:08:58.280 --> 0:08:59.600 want to, I want to. I want to stay there 0:08:59.640 --> 0:08:59.959 for a set. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:09.480 People know who Rich Parter and like our pole is now, right, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.559 were you ever like were you ever felt like you 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.840 were in like danger or like just being around them all? 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.280 They were just irregular, that's my guy. Yep, I'll poll 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:27.559 that's not gonna say alcohols. It's twenty nineteen game. So 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.480 when he came at the Apollo, okay, he came to 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:36.160 my dressing rooms career, you know, even though he killed 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.520 my best friend. All right, you know, we have to 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.440 learn how to forget. You know what I'm saying life 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.360 for sure. I knew it when it came from us, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.599 but I knew a lot of people, you know, was 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.360 they had. That's how pose she was the rich Porter 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.360 because I think you just said that's your best friend. Wow, 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.920 it's like my brother, I mean rich Porter. Him and 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.800 a Z kicked me off the street. I heard you 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.880 say that I would like to read, but it wasn't. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.760 I got kicked off of like for good reasons, the 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.800 blocks because they knew I was into music. And then yo, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.839 so rich Porter was just give me a give me 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.960 money and just like, yo, I need you to stay 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:25.280 to protect you. Yeah. But at one point I'll pole 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:30.200 put about two million dollars in my trunk that California 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.920 presenting the Guy album to m c A and my 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:39.480 brother Marquel from Rex in effect had my car. He 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.880 pulled up on my brolly. He said, take this briefcase 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.640 putting in trunk. Tell you whether I want to be 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:48.160 in the music business. And I said, uh, I said, 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.880 get that ship back. I said, give it back. Tell 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.640 him you at I'm gonna be in California for a while, 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.200 and uh, yo, I'll talk to him when I get back. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:05.120 So up when you know, we always had that. That's 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.160 how we went to Virginia Beach. Do you know they're 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.480 the cause. We are the cause of going to Virginia Beach. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.000 We used to try to a bus right and just 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.240 take a bunch of girls and everybody. We used to 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.640 go down there and just go to King's Dominion, you know, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.839 just have fun, have the jet skis. And when I 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.959 went down there, I just said, yeah, I said to 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.720 my fiance at the time, my ex, I said, if 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:33.160 I moved anywhere, I want to move here. Not thinking 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.400 there's no music, there's no scene. It was nothing for 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.360 me to grab one to. I had to create that 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.440 and that's what I did. I created jobs for people. Yeah. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:50.079 I created places for kids to go and things for 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.559 kids to do to stay off the streets, and it 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.640 definitely worked. I had shoot Allen Iverson was on my 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.480 Celebrity Basketball I remember, I remember, and uh, Kevin gott 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.240 Nat you know, all of them came down, Penny Holloway, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.400 they came down. Everybody always wanted to see what what 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.160 is going on in Virginia Beach. That everybody just keep 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.800 going down there and and like you said, there's something 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:18.040 is in the water. Oh yeah, definitely. And you believe 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.400 that there's something in the water that's always is, always 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.480 have been. That's why we went down there. You know. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.120 When I went down there, it was just nobody was 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:32.760 like Jimmy Buffett, you know, and I just said, you 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.240 know what, as like, yo, are you sure you don't 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:36.880 want to go back to New York. I was like, nah, 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:42.000 I'm just staying here. But they thought we was drug dealers. Yeah. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.679 I think we had every two And we had to 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.480 prove ourselves, you know, to the these cops because they 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:55.839 kept coming into the to the studio investigating us. And 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.640 we finally got to them, he said, you know, and 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.600 they were asking us what could we do for the community. Well, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.719 maybe you can help us. And we went to We 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.120 had asked them to introduce us to the principal of 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:17.400 the school where Pharrell went to school, and Chad and 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.240 Long Behold. We talked to the principal and we asked them, 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.559 can we do some challenge shows here? He said, only 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:29.959 want one condition, can our students participate? I said, of course, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:35.840 that's the purpose of us doing it here. And one 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.320 thing that to another. We had the first Talent Show 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.680 and everybody was you know, we had judges that came 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:46.080 down something from New York, and Tammy Lucas was there 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.079 and she was one of the judges. And I have 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.800 to give Tammy the credit because you know, Tammy is like, 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.400 you got to check these young boys out. You know, 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.240 they playing on tables and ship you know, like banging 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:03.040 on tables and spitting fire. So I said, I'm gonna 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.480 check them out. Everybody's going for the people singing I 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.240 Will Always love you, the greatest love of all somebody 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:13.480 who hold a long note, and everybody's mm hmmm, that's 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:19.480 not it. Before all of them got on, they didn't 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.640 have the concept, but they came out and he was 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:26.840 spitting the Talent Show right, Okay, he started switching instruments. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:31.080 I was like, that's it, because you picked them to 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.240 win the Talent Show. That's crazy. Yeah. I was like, nah, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.960 I'm going backstage. I'm going to talk to them. And 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:44.840 I always felt like I owed you money because because 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.600 Tammy Lucas, he just brought her up a lot of 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:53.520 people don't know Tammy Lucas is that voice that you 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:59.080 hear what what I know that And for years, people 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.960 will come up to me and say, you know that's 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.640 that's that's Teddy Routy artist and now we'll be like 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:12.400 holy ship. So I didn't know. But that's a that's 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.600 a that's an unhidden gym right there. She's she's amazing. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.200 You know, we're we're actually cranking up the new New 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:22.600 Jack Swing tour. And uh, we just sold out of 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.800 at Meylmore. We sold a lot of concert and I 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.720 didn't think I could do it by myself. And I 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.440 just say, you know what, sell out to sell out, 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.880 but the mayor told us, yo, y'are the only ones 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:36.840 that's sold out here. Wow. It's makes some noise for that. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:44.480 But we are supposed to come back for Jazz in 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.280 the Garden and uh something else we're performing at. And 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:53.840 I said, I'm gonna bring High five, bring Dougie Fresh. 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:54.680 Wow. 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.240 And I just said, you know, I just want to 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.440 open up shop. And you know, we're looking at places 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.440 here just you know, kind of because my wife, you know, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.720 she her family lives here. I said, you know, just 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.640 get a second home here, that's right, and just kind 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.840 of starts something. So I'm ba Savona a little bit. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.400 Kids at work. Was that don't look them up. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:25.400 I specifically heard you for the interview and you said, 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.440 do not look that up and look them up. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.640 And I'm like, holy ship. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.640 For people who are starting out right me and he 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.120 makes fun of me all the time. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.640 My first MC name was MC Yahoo with the ball 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:43.160 to Bean. 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:49.440 So get that work is better. But let's take us 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:54.240 to those days. What's that you guys to to formed 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:54.640 that group? 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.920 Actually it was Timmy Gathering okay, original member of God 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.880 Okay wow. And the other guy is our big brother, 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.520 Chlorl who's now he's like one of the most sorted out, 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.720 most sorted out vocal coach. He works with a lot 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:17.560 of singers and we're all still doing our things. But 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:21.439 Timmy Gatlin was the one who I started kids at 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:26.000 work with, you know, and we did a record, we 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.320 did a you know album, didn't do nothing. So that's 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.280 made that's what made me just quit doing R and B. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:39.280 So I was doing rap records. I did Kumode, Dougie Fresh, 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:46.760 Spooney g the Wop Dance, the Anthem That's New Generation, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.280 which has been so dice got you back into R 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.000 and B. Yeah, okay, with with Keith Sweat, you know, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.280 with Keith Sweat. Yeah, that's what got me back into 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.639 doing R and B. And first that I did was 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.480 I want to and I just said, you know, this 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.080 is this is uh, it's gone. I'm gonna make something 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.520 out of this. Yeah, it just jumped out of me. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:13.560 I'm sorry, it's all good. Just hit me it's not good. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.960 But that's that's where my music just started evolving. Okay, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:24.200 in my life as well, you know, because coming from 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.520 the hoods, you know, you never know how you you're 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.080 able to get out, you know and really make something 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.560 out of yourself and not seeing a few people like 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.760 it's a little before your time. But tell us thee 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:40.520 Earleen Twins, Arleen Twins, I Knowles Wins. Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.640 one of them passed away. Goblin, yeah yeah, Leroy Burgess 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:52.200 always can't all from Harlem, Black Ivory. They had radio 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.680 from Brooklyn. I thought they was from Brooklyn. But no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.840 what yeah they might yes, yes, but all of us 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:03.520 we lived everywhere, you know in New York. It's like right, 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:09.960 but coming up when I was hustling, I was going 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:18.359 to Halem World actually actually had Sixteenth Street and Lenox Avenue. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.000 I used to go and see all of the rappers, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:28.520 like you know, Furious Five, Crash Crew, z B. I 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.760 was at the battle. When you're on the ground, you're 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.960 on the ground level of it all. Yeah, I was. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.080 I was at when Como D was battling z B, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:43.160 L Couch. Everybody was there and sitting through that being 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.520 a fan. Never thought I would be working with all 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:51.359 of them. It's like surreal And that's my thought pattern 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.840 of like that, Well I ever make it out of Harlem. 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.000 So all I wanted was my records to play on 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.159 the radio. I didn't even think about money. They just 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.760 thought about I need to give my music out there. 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:08.200 And it got out there more than I thought it was, 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.760 you know, because one record led to another, and you know, 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:18.680 radio stations started really taking a you know, taking a 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:23.000 like into my music. So when I started R and 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:29.919 B with Keith Sweat, Yeah you heard of Frankie Crocker. 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.000 Of course, I don't want to say names like yo, 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.280 I was too young. If we don't know, we need 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.440 to dig in the craze. Faky Crocker was the one 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.640 that broke I want to for you was the guy 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.800 on the radio station. Correct, he was like he was 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:51.600 like back then the most paid radio guy for better 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:55.399 term probably what we was to start, like, yeah, okay, 0:20:55.520 --> 0:21:00.399 there you go. So Frankie he debuted I Want To 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:05.280 and it was on jam at the slam It and 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.640 everybody slammed it. Slam it is the bad one. That's 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:12.879 the bad. So Frankie took it upon himself, you know, 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.479 go against the grain and say, you know, y'all may 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:19.400 slam this record, but I'm a jam thissh record. Y'all 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.920 don't understand. This is the new wave. And when we 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:27.000 did that, I felt like Robert Townsend on uh, it's 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.520 that movie. He's like, they planning it, they're playing it 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:34.960 on the radio. Mom, So was it a good? God? 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:36.520 Not five heart beats? Right? 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:36.720 No? 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:45.520 You know what? Okay, I don't remember, but that's how 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.600 I felt, you know. And my mother was there with me. 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.119 It's like we're hearing the record on the radio. But 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.240 before all of that, my mother made me do the 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:58.440 poor man copyright the mailing. Yeah, so I mailed tape 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:05.080 yourself to myself. Okay, yeah, that's copyright. Cool, damn the 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.520 postmark when I make that. You know, she was like 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.040 because when she first heard it, she and she know 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.000 what it was, but she was like, this sounds good. 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.880 You know. I used to always get how you say 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.320 bothered by the neighbors, you know, because I was making 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:23.639 a lot of noise. Noise, yes, of course. And then uh, 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:27.399 like I said, when they started evolving and everybody started like, yo, 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.000 he's gonna make it out of the projects. So everybody 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:40.360 became fans and supportive. So that's where I raised you. Yes, 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:44.480 that's right. Hold on, we got to go back to 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.080 because I feel like we're going to skip forward. We 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.399 jump around, I'm so happy, I'm happy, I'm sorry, and 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.480 so many iconic records, but going back to these early 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.879 hip hop records that you were involved in, like the show, Yeah, Yo, 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.359 that's crazy. Can you give us like a breakdown of 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:07.360 how that comes about? Yeah, so the show basically came 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.280 about me and Doug. You first went to the same 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:13.479 high school, and actually we got kicked out of three 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.399 high schools before ending up at the same high school. 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:23.880 And uh, we don't know this version. We don't see 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.399 you being like that guy getting kicked out of high school. 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:32.760 It's okay. I got kicked out because that into a fight. 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.920 And when I got into a fight, I threw one 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:42.119 blow and everybody threw all the blows. Deferred everybody, Okay, 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.000 I see deferged, sister Kim. Everybody was just on this 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:50.240 guy because he kind of snitched on me. Now we 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.560 throw the how you say, the eraser the chalk boy 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:59.440 at the teacher. So I threw the chalk boy and 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.800 next thing you know, everybody was laughing and the dude 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:08.480 was like, he did it. It's like, let's see you 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:13.480 after school. And then, uh, the dude when he got 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:18.840 hit about four or five, everybody just went on him 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:24.480 and he his whole fronts was gone because he went 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:28.320 straight into the fire hydrant. Damn. Next day I got 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.879 to school, they took me straight to the office. It's like, 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:40.560 mister Rolli, you you expelled. We're evaluating you know, you're 0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.920 you being here and it looks like you're not gonna 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:51.160 you're gonna get You're getting kicked out. So I got 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:55.200 kicked out and went to uh west Side west I 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:59.640 High High. I ain't stayed there long. I didn't get 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.879 no fun, but I just didn't pass the programs. You 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.919 know how you go to school one week and then 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.920 you work one week, so it's co op. You know 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:15.440 I did that. I quit job the first day and 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.720 w first went to the same school he got kicked 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:23.159 out of, King went to west Side. We both got 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:27.159 kicked out of West Side end up at Parkies and 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.520 that's where we created the show. That's when we've created 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.400 the show, and then we performed it at the graduation 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:38.879 he graduated. I was in eleventh grade. So when he 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:43.880 left the school, I quit school because I was making money. 0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:50.199 I had my first publishing deal with Zumba. Let's job, right, 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:58.240 So my first publishing deal and son and Grand so 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.200 over time, I think it was three hundred grand. So 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.320 I had one hundred grand a year or something like that. 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:11.920 I'm eighteen years old, right, Yes. I took that home 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.320 to my mom and the hundre ground or the three 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.440 hundred grand the hundred ground. I told her, you know, 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.960 we got she made it with a job. I made it. 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.280 She was like, nah, wa ain't Quentin, you got to 0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:31.000 make ten moretels. Wow, let's make some little shot. It's real, 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:35.119 that's real. So I went and made ten more right 0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:40.560 before twenty, right, took it to her and she said, okay, 0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:44.080 we can move now, now we can move. So we 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:48.120 moved to the Bronx first, and at that same time 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:54.920 I was working with Andrew Heel Uptown Uptown, so I 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.640 had two places. I was living in Brooklyn, at Uptown, 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:03.239 I was living in we moved to the Bronx. At 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:07.879 the same time, I'm working with Keith Sweat mixing. I 0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:12.520 want to and to make the last Forever album. Get 0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.679 a call from Timmy gathering. But we're going back to Dougie. 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:20.480 I'm a segue back. So when we did this show 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.399 at the graduation, when he left, I quit school and 0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.640 then he went on to making, you know, making ways, 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:32.600 performing him at Slickorid performing and I had to kind 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.760 of find my way. And when I quit school, I 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:41.480 ended up working for my uncle but also performing at 0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.520 the same time, and they built a studio for me 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.639 at the rooftop because I. 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:52.000 Heard a story. I believe you told it. You didn't 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:55.960 even have a board when you started out. You would 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:56.960 go and learn. 0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:03.520 At everybody's studio, going everybody studio and the program just beats. 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.399 Put it on a cassette, take it with me, and 0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:11.120 just play it for everybody. So until I was able 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.840 to afford a drum machine, I was just doing that 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:22.600 first drum machine I was on was uh, the Oberheim 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:28.320 d X weight. So I want to come tell all 0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:32.720 the trappers out there. I was doing trap before them, 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:40.840 making records with like go see the Doctor eight away, 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.719 and you know, we didn't have it washing, nothing sinking, 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.480 so we used that punch to make two drum machines 0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:53.560 sink together. Wild You young motherfuckers need to listen. You 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.960 know you know how hard that ship is. Go ahead. 0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.520 I'm sorry. That was the That was the first I know, 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:05.640 but sides doing Dougie Fresh the show, the show, I 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.880 didn't really know where it was going. But when the 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.520 show came out, even though you know, I didn't get 0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.040 any credit for it, because like I said, I had 0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.640 started in my eyes. I just wanted to record play 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.920 on the radio and you know, be a part of something. 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:28.480 And that's how I started evolving in Harlem. And then 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.680 everybody came to me from Brooklyn, the Queens and everybody 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.880 would come to my projects and I would make records 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:40.600 for everybody. So I'm bouncing around a little bit, like 0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:46.920 you said, I need to ask you this. I believe 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:52.200 I see Jermaine depreciate this. He said that New Addition 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:57.360 is the greatest group of all time. Then they questioned them. 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.640 They said, because each one of of these members solo 0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:07.280 went platinum, do you believe that statement? I believe they 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.840 are the greatest group of all times. Are we making 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:15.160 no noise for that? Yeah? Okay? And why I say 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.480 that is because them together is a nucleus. And now 0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.040 you see them all together. Nobody's standing up to that 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.120 and their group that got back together and stayed together 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:31.360 because they'd seen the business. They stood on business. If 0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.400 other groups would stand on business, we would have a nucleus. 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.480 And we have groups back. Wow. Right now it's the 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.080 recession of groups. Now we're leaning towards we're leaning on 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:45.600 the legends. Wow. You know. And they're the legends that 0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:51.360 is really setting the example, you know for the other legends. 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.400 You know, all these groups breaking up is like one 0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.600 twelve Now it's just twelve. Damn. I didn't know that, 0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:01.720 you know, Yeah, really damn what they doing? Then you 0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:06.680 got groups that lost members like High five. Yeh, I'm 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:11.640 putting them back together. Yes, intro. So there's a lot 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.120 of groups out there that are legend groups, but there's 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:20.000 no new groups. Okay. I thought Day twenty six was 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:24.560 going to be you know the next next big thing. Agree, 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.880 but it happen so for real, so real. It was 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.960 definitely a dope group developed by Heavy d and and 0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:38.520 uh Eddie F and the crew. I think what it 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.440 is is, you know, it was the artist development. 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:47.000 Artists development is missing in the industry. Yeah, I agree 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.080 with that one mean thing. 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:53.120 When we had I was artist developed. This is a 0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.360 lot for Oh yeah, it was about a year my 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.920 first I went to media coach. My first media coach 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:05.200 was Wendy Williams. Wow. No, hell, that's why she didn't 0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:10.600 talk about me. Damn, oh you never have. That's like 0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.800 my sister, okay, like in a good way. That's Whinny 0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:17.680 Williams gave me my fortieth birthday party wow in California. 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:24.040 And my second media coach was Nelson George. Wow. My 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:25.920 third was the guy who gave me the name new 0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:29.200 Jack Swing and that's Byry Michael Cooper who wrote and 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:34.760 co wrote New Jack City. M So I was around 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:38.040 a lot of people. It was just you know, creating me, 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.800 you know what I'm saying, Like this guy would like 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:47.000 pressure me to uh give a name to my music, 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:51.320 like call my music something, and I didn't have no idea. 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:57.239 He's like, all right, this is your second session, your 0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:01.240 third session, you better have a name. I didn't have 0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.120 a name. He's like, I'm going to give you a name, 0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:10.120 and he said you should use new jack Swing because 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.160 you're the new kid on the block swinging it. Wow. 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.400 And that's how I got the name of just He said, 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:23.840 run with it. You'll thank me later. He's in my 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:27.720 book too. The whole genre was that, let me tell 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:31.600 you something, the genre and still today, you know, technically 0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:33.360 a lot of people don't know they're doing the jack 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:38.280 swing right, So a fusion. We one man of acent 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:43.280 googled it and had it plan and we didn't realize 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:47.040 how many workds you. We were doubting. It was like, 0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.200 wait a minute, he couldn't have did that too. 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.600 Do you understand how many Do you understand how how 0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.760 many lives you change? Like we're all sitting here just amazed, 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.200 like all of us, come, let's just give it like 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:03.800 this is here. 0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.680 We were so I believe you are first guest that 0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.040 came a little late, and we was like, we do 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:13.160 not care. Whenever he shows up. We're cool with it. 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:17.880 But do you understand how many lives here you changed? 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.719 To do this, and I'm not. 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:22.919 I'm not even getting to Bobby. I'm not even getting 0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:24.399 to Michael yet. I'm not kidding. 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:28.759 I'm just getting into you and your groups. For me, 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.719 I don'm doing on my past, all right. I don't 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.680 do it on my past. I try to forget about 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.239 it so I can keep going, right, So it's like 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:43.839 I'm almost famous, right, That's how I go every day. 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.239 I just think about that. Okay, what was it was? 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.600 What it is now? It matters, you know, if I 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.759 can change and continue changing lives, that's what matters for me, 0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:01.480 and I am you know. It's like I can go 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.359 anywhere and I can live anywhere and something gonna come 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.879 out of it. Never I don't know. I just feel 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.080 like the most high is like, all right, you're gonna 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.160 go here, You're gonna live here, and you're gonna do 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.120 something here. That's what I did in Virginia. I did 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.000 it in Atlanta. I was in Atlanta before the village. 0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:30.279 I heard second home, second home, but Vegas, California. Living 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.359 in Atlanta was one of the things that I said, 0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:34.840 you know, I want to do and I want to 0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:40.240 kind of more often exfuse the music and bring everybody 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.600 together try blue jack swing, just put it all together. 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.560 And I wound up working with a lot of people there. 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.839 But the main thing was challenging to me was moving 0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:54.319 to Korea. Wait a second, you moved to Korea, Yeah, 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:58.120 to do K pop. I mean I knew there was 0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:00.640 a lot of people from out here that was influencing 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:04.840 that whole movement. You were, and you told me I 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:11.160 was my daughter. You a whole conversation. I got listen 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:17.160 to Golden every day. Those records, they are amazing. And 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.400 when I went out there, it was two thousand and seven. 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:27.120 I went out there and got robbed rob. I'm gonna 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:32.560 tell you how not rob Like onto my head. They stick. 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.879 They got some shree guys out there. They're ill business people. Yeah, 0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.680 they are really ill. So when we went out there, right, 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:46.040 I did a whole I had I think every news channel. 0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:51.520 We did a press conference. The reason why because I 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:57.719 didn't know how big my music was out there. K 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:02.879 pop is new jack swing. And then I get out 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:08.160 there like not knowing anything about the business aspect, like 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:14.279 the stock game, and I'm out there like they give 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:16.560 me half a million dollars do this, and you know, 0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.800 and I'm doing it but not. I finally had like 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.960 a few meetings with the CEOs and CEO's like when 0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:29.360 come with us, So I'll go with s some entertainment, 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.440 not knowing that when they put put me on the books, 0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:41.239 they stock went up. I didn't ask the stock to 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:47.120 get stuck. Dumbest ship out. But I still made a 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.719 lot of money out there. I still made ways and 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.719 now you're here Teddy Rally is a part of you know, 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.279 k pop. It's responsible. But when I went out there, 0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.160 let me tell you I got I went out there, 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:06.799 did this whole press conference. There's a company I ever 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:13.400 heard of, a company called ten Cent. They're like Rockerfeller 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.960 in Korea. Yes, they're like the South Korea big yeah, 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.080 South Yeah, but they're like the biggest when it comes 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:27.240 to they're like Viacom Okay, wow, okay. They own everything 0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:33.160 out there, the karaoke machines, all of that stuff. Like 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.080 you go in the mall, you know how we get 0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:44.120 those the picture taking things, karaoke machines, all the malls. Yeah, 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:48.399 that's big out there. That makes more money than anything. Wow. 0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.880 So I'm out there and they were like, we'd like 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:56.200 to figure out doing a movie with you, and I 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.839 was like, great, let's do it. You know, they said, 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:00.600 what you gonna call it? I want to call it 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:10.960 Asia A star in Asia. They take my shir and 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.399 ran with it. I was like, oh, they just took 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:17.279 the idea. They trademark, did they trade magt It was 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.320 like wow? And then oh, I didn't know he was 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.920 going there me out here out there. They gave him 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.880 two million dollars and he shared nothing with me. I 0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.359 come back, I get forty grand and I'm on my way. 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.320 Why did ten cents come to try and sue me? 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.200 Because they thought I was doing the movie and they 0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.920 gave him the money. He did the contract. So I 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:51.440 had to prove myself to them, saying, listen, I'm I'm 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.600 a man of honor. I would never take your money. 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.719 They knew somebody was doing dude and got married on 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.759 their money for the wife. And this is the guy 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:06.360 that brought you out the originally yes so, and the 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.080 same guy who was taking my publishing because we had 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:13.360 did records for artists. Oh god, we did records for 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:18.520 this artist's name. Uh, what's his name? I think it's Rain. No. 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.280 Rain is the guy who's like usher out here okay, 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:26.960 so we did these records. This company took out publishing 0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.960 and mechanic rights. I didn't know that ASCAP does not 0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:39.800 exist in Korea. They have their owns. The company is 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:45.400 called Kumka Oh. And these guys was publishing our songs 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.439 and copyrighting our songs. We went through Korean music book 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.879 camp check this out. We had already went there, came 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.759 back and me and my guys did. We did these 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.440 records for them. They paid us nice money and everything right. 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.880 It was like, yo, where's all we issues? Like what 0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:07.759 we It's like, Yo, let's go back. I said, Yo, 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.359 we ain't going back to start no trouble. We're gonna 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.320 go back and say it's not fear and hopefully it 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.560 will meet somebody who can help us. And that's how 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:20.120 we met as some entertainment and they help us get 0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:26.000 every publishing, mechanical rights and all of our rights back. Wow. 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:30.160 On a condition of me staying for two weeks to 0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:35.520 do some music with the artists. Two weeks turn into 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:42.160 two months, two months turn into two years. Living in Korea, 0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.920 it's like, we enjoy your music. We want can you stay, 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.759 We'll get your house, We'll get you They got us 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.560 a building. Wow. We built the studios and the building 0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:57.960 and we were there for two years. Let me find 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.399 out you speak Korean? Now, how far to at all? 0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:10.640 I was translating. Oh, now they got the you're talking 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.040 and you can talk right about yah. Sure that's right. 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:17.239 And I was, you know, getting I had my translator 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.160 on my phone and that's how I got around. And 0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:21.239 I didn't have to go in too many places. I 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.920 stayed in the studio. I live in the studio, okay. 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:29.200 So when I was out there, I had no relationships. 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.520 I just I was in that studio and they thought 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.440 I was a martiroom because I would be in that 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:38.719 studio from ten to ten in the morning. They would 0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:41.319 be coming into work and he's like, he's still here. 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.880 So they built me a bedroom in the actual office. 0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:49.719 Goddamn it. Wow, that's hard. So it's safe to say 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.120 that you open those doors for a lot of people 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:57.440 over here too. Well. They were doing what they're doing anyway, right, 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.560 but there's a lot of collaboration have to do it 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.400 for it to be introduced. Now, I can't say that 0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:10.320 because you had what's my guy, Jay Park? Jay is 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.560 a Jay Park. He was doing it. He came over here, 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:19.560 but I went over there, and when I went over there, 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.360 it was just I was working with every broup. We 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:27.560 had five six number one records, and we place stove 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:36.000 for forty forty songs. So I was pretty much living 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.759 comfortable out there, and in my mind was kind of 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.880 learning the culture. It's kind of getting together while the 0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.560 record business over here was getting it together because it 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.920 was a recession. But what years are is this exactly 0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.080 when I went over there to live, it was twenty 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:56.279 ten to twenty twelve, and yeah, that's when we had 0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.360 the whole real estate crash out here. That's when the system. 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:05.279 Yeah, and then that's what streaming, streaming is interesting kindas 0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:06.080 and all of that. 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.640 When I came back was when Heavy D passed away, 0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.279 and that's what made me say it, I'm coming back 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:17.160 to America. I moved to Atlanta then asked my sister, 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.359 just find me a place. It's like where you want 0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:21.920 to live, gated community. I said, no, I want to 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.719 live next to you. They found me a place and 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.640 I lived there for a little while and kind of 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:33.720 outgrown it and moved into a house, you know, big house, 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:39.440 and stayed down there for a while. Atlanta. Yeah, okay, 0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.600 how do you feel like was that? Was there a 0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:47.480 culture shock living out there? I was assuming that's your 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.040 first time living outside of the States, was it. No, 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.920 I lived in London. I lived in London. My earlier 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.160 is when I was working in Cood and the Ocean. 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.880 We did all like I'll go see the dots. How 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.040 do you like me? Now? Those records we did in 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:09.440 London we did at Battery Studios because draft records. We 0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:12.000 don't realize how much of those records were made. It 0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.440 was a battery studio. I didn't know Battery Studios was 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:17.279 located in London. They have one in London and one 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.800 in New York. Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't. I 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:25.279 didn't hold so damn that's fucking me up. So that's 0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:28.480 where y'all you and hold D recorded that, like we 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:33.359 did first album, second album. Then just legendary, I see, 0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.600 because I can't fathom this because because I lived there, 0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:40.920 like we would spend three to maybe six months. But 0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.160 that wasn't much of a culture shock being in in 0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.560 London versus here as it was. And me tell you why, 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:51.960 driving on the wrong Yeah, we didn't drive. I was like, yeah, 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:55.200 I'm not getting into no accident. But I'm used to 0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:59.640 driving on outside. So when that happened, you know, we 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.680 were have a driver. They gave us the driver clip 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:07.200 Calder Clock Calder was a guy who was the first 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.719 guy to see me make a b wow. I was 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:15.799 making how you like me now? And when he came 0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:17.799 in the room, he was he was behind his dark 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:25.759 you know, tenthed glass watching me. Were you using? I 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:32.279 was using the MP because they had one. There wasn't mine. No, 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.600 it wasn't about to say it wasn't MP. Was the 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:44.320 behind the d X and no was an MP. It 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:51.279 was I can't imagine. I had a sepler the s P, 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:57.719 No was it spee and but it was this. I 0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:02.440 ain't had no drum machine on the Ford one, so 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.080 I was banging out on everybody's joint, you know. But 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:09.800 when I was there, they had every drum machine. And 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:14.560 I made that back and he was just watching. I've 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:19.080 seen his head just going. And then he walked in 0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:25.160 the room. He called me another name, no Clive. 0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.640 Okay, ceo, because I keep looking at his glasses and 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:29.600 I was looking at you. 0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:44.280 He's trying to imitate I keep looking bad. He called 0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:49.840 me my partner. My partner name is Levor and he 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.920 said Levor. I said no. He said, what's is your name? 0:47:54.640 --> 0:48:01.120 I said, I'm Teddy Riley, Teddy Wally, Teddy that kind 0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:08.439 of sounds huh sounds good good, Yeah, Teddy Rally. He said, 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:15.879 so you make the beats. I said, yeah, I make 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:20.440 the beats. He said, can you excuse me a second? 0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:25.720 I says yeah, sure. He went upstairs and called Barry Weiss, 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:33.319 John Records as well, and Callie, all of them. I said, 0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.239 he got them all on the phone. He told me this, 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.880 He said, I got them on the phone and asked her. 0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:45.480 I said, who's Teddy Rowley? And and I guess they 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:47.840 answer is Teddy Rally is one of the guys. You 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:52.680 know he works with them, He works with He said, 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:58.800 you guys know he makes the beats, and he's like nobody. 0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:05.440 It was crickets. And he said, I told them, if 0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:08.759 you guys, when he comes back to the States, if 0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:12.719 you don't have him in that office making a deal, 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:19.600 somebody's getting fired. And I had a meeting with him. 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.680 I went down there by myself and didn't have no lawyer, 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:24.960 no nothing. It's my first meeting with him and that 0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:29.120 was how I got my first hundred thousand dollars two 0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:33.520 zumber and that was my first publishing deal. God damn me, 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:37.719 that's wild. Makes a noise for you want to do 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.319 quick Time of Slim, but you gotta explain that. Let's 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.759 do it. Let's get a designate a drinker. Okay, yeah, yeah, 0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:47.200 because you don't have to drink. Okay, okay, you can, Okay, 0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:50.240 we'll get something. Get somebody like you. Yeah, my nephew. 0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:52.520 Oh ship damn he do you under the bus like that? 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.919 I like that. He what I would do with my nephew. 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:59.080 I'm just letting you know. He told me. Okay, okay, okay, okay, drinking, 0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:04.720 I'm ting there. Yeah, So we're. 0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.920 Gonna ask him, and you know, can you break down 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:08.440 the game? 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.200 So this is our drinking game, okay, and we're gonna 0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:16.000 give you two choices. If you pick one, we don't drink, right, 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.120 But if you say both are neither, like you really 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:20.520 don't want to answer. I plead the fifth, You plead 0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.680 the fifth. We're drinking everybody's dress, but really we just 0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:24.560 want stories out of it. 0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:32.360 But I'm not gonna lie to you. I feel like 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:34.880 Teddy is a great person. He's not going on one 0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:38.800 to answered every sense I forget. 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:43.640 No, it was a great dad. He answered everyone. So 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:53.200 Dad here he answered everything. Don't yeah, he asted everyone politically. 0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:58.480 So, nephew, I'm not you want did you really ask 0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:02.200 for tiger and we're doing yoghe No, no, no, no, 0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:03.560 he's asking you don't want to tag? 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:09.880 You don't. I don't want. No, nephew, nephew, you don't want. 0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:13.759 You don't want to tag a ball. I ain't gonna lie. 0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:15.920 I ain't gonna lie. We're gonna as if you want 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:25.640 late Dominican mamajuana. Oh wow, okay, okay, so you ready 0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.120 get wait, hold on, it's get You got a couple 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.760 of shot glasses from Yeah, that's good the first then okay, 0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:36.759 backing up, this is this is great, by the way, 0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:38.600 for a couple. 0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.200 I have to take the first question because I probably 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.600 think you're the only person on earth that could probably 0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:44.319 answer this question. 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:47.600 This is one of the biggest on our show. Okay, 0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:50.799 let's do it not too not too heavy for. 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:52.440 So I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go in 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:55.719 there because I'm gonna go I'm gonna go ahead and 0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:56.440 go in there I'm gonna do. 0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:57.520 I'll take the first one. 0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:07.279 This is gonna be too great, okay, Michael Jackson or Prince. 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:08.400 And we need stories too. 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:12.160 Yes, I believe you're the only person who sufficiently answer 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:12.720 this question. 0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:21.279 Wow, okay, Michael Jackson, of course, which I want me 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.680 to tell you. And I feel like you definitely got 0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:30.319 print stories. I do, okay, But Michael, I have more 0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:39.879 stories and substance. And why I say Michael, I came 0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:44.120 ready for the Michael answer. Now you know you just 0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:48.000 gave him my answer. But why say Michael Is because 0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:56.160 Michael wasn't just uh an artist. He was a visionary 0:52:57.520 --> 0:53:03.680 humanitarian well model And now everybody's see now today how 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:07.400 much of a role model he was to the kids. 0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:12.799 He's vindicated in a lot, yes, And it took us 0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:17.279 this long to really find out all the things that 0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:24.160 he did to really save humanity, you know, humanity. And 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:33.880 I don't think that principal, you know, was there. I 0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:37.840 pressed did a lot of things, but not what Michael 0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:42.440 who have done, and the chances that he took just 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:45.960 for all of us. So I have to say him 0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:51.320 in always, not just as an artist. I have to 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:55.719 say him he's the one in every way, and I'm 0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:57.560 sure you always say the same things. 0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:00.320 This is why we want to ask you. This is 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.800 a this is like still on the same question, but 0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.480 a little bit off. We had what I am on here, 0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:08.160 what I am telling this story, and he goes famous. 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:09.040 It's the favorite story. 0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:11.480 We did not want. We did not know this was 0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:13.560 gonna go viral. But he was like that. 0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:17.120 Prince kept calling excuse me, a Prince kept calling Michael 0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:17.720 a meanie. 0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:23.080 No, no, no, Michael was called calling Michael. I gotta 0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:24.880 feel that you know about it. I know about the 0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:30.160 whole thing. I was the first one was VH that's right, 0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:34.440 and the big TV before where I am and everybody 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:39.160 because Michael told me this story okay, and showed me 0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:41.080 and gave me the v H s. 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:46.239 There's a VHA talk about your TV that because I 0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:47.000 heard Michael. 0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:50.839 Gave you a t No, that's another thing lost. Okay, 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:54.440 wait a minute, James Brown concert, Okay, okay, I was 0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:57.000 the first one with it. We spoke about this on 0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:03.800 the from Michael before anybody even thought about it. Michael 0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:04.680 told me everything. 0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:11.840 He said, you know, can I tell you about the 0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:13.919 time that Prince tried to run us off the road 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:15.120 me and my family. 0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:23.520 I was like, yes, tell me that was what happened. 0:55:26.560 --> 0:55:29.719 He's like, yeah, it's going to Can I show it 0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:33.520 to you? I was like, sure, what you're gonna show me? Said? 0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.439 He said, I'm gonna show you. Look. Look he took 0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:41.560 the thing he put in. He pushed the VHSA. He said, 0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:45.320 this is you can have it copies. I have copies. 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:50.400 I was like, okay, So he showed me it. He 0:55:50.480 --> 0:56:00.840 sat back. He's like, he's like, everybody my preends in 0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:05.800 the house. Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson, come up here, Michael Jackson. 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:11.120 So he came up. Michael came up. He's like, gave 0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:14.120 my hugs, and you know, did his thing. He just 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:21.320 killed it, did the moon walk everything. And James was 0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:26.239 just like, wow, look at the boys. All right, So 0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:35.040 that's Michael Coat. So Michael said, you know, after he 0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:39.719 did his thing, everybody went nuts. Michael went in whispered, 0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:50.359 and James brown ear and said, Princess an audience. He said, 0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:56.000 what princess an audience? Oh? I got somebody else on 0:56:56.120 --> 0:57:01.320 the audious one. He's all now thought he said, Prince 0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:05.640 Pressed is an artist. And Prince came up and he 0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:09.560 was on the bodyguards showeder you know, on his back, 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:14.839 came up and everybody's like, first of all, you don't 0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:17.840 you could have walked up there, but Prince, you know, 0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:20.320 he could have walked up there. It would have been 0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:25.760 better received because everybody now is like, who's this mother's son? 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:39.160 But this before Instagram is Prince come up, body guy, 0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:42.880 bring him on his stays. He goes his post and 0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:49.760 Prince borrows the guitar from the guitar player. But he 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.680 took his glove off. He took his glove off, he 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:55.680 threw it in the crowd. He threw it back at him. 0:57:56.480 --> 0:58:03.080 No ship, that was the first and then uh, he 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:07.720 boughted the guitar. Now the guitar don't have no distortion 0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.479 because it wasn't rock music. It was changed bowl music. 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:16.160 So Prince was playing and he hit the no deal 0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:26.760 they so he went. He wanted to keep, he wanted 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:32.080 to scream, and it didn't scream. He tried something else. 0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:34.640 Then he said, all right, let me just bust a 0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:50.000 move on you. And the look at the to and 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:51.959 that's when he I think that's when he threw the glove. 0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:54.440 I'm gonna look back at it. But that's when he 0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:56.440 threw the gloves and they threw it back at him. 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:59.200 Then next to you know, everything he tried just and 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:03.480 didn't want work right, so he said, oh, just forget 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:07.120 about it. I'm done. I'm gonna get that nigga, Michael, 0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:12.520 I'm gonna get his ass. He checked this out. He 0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:14.800 went to go get off the stage. So he didn't 0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:20.040 know that the light post was a prop. So he 0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:23.680 told the light post. The post came down with him 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:28.040 and the bodyguard, you know, kind of saved him, took 0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:34.200 him away. And Michael's in the back just laughing. Okay, 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:39.320 you see you see you laughing. He said, you know 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:42.000 what happened afterwards? I said, what. 0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:45.440 He said, we was going on with my family was 0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:49.120 leaving backstage, and always say him it was the Red 0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:51.360 COVID and it's Prince. 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:57.120 He tried to run my whole family over. I said, 0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:03.040 you seriously, said yeah, yeah, it it was on. After that, 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:11.320 that's when the whole thing was like Prince against Michael, 1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:16.840 and you know, everybody went to Michael's side. I got 1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:23.440 to Mike, but I don't know Will tell it that way. 1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:26.400 I feel like Will told us the story. After that, 1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:30.080 it was another show show that he was at. And 1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.600 but the reason why he called him because of that. 1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:37.520 And I believe that he tricked Michael into tricking him 1:00:37.600 --> 1:00:40.360 to his show. He had already had Print's book, but 1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:41.040 he didn't. 1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:43.880 Want Michael to know. And then when Michael showing up, 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:48.480 he said, he's a meanie. I don't know why I 1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:53.080 made that voice. I'm so sorry. He's right, and he 1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:55.680 used that way lies, he used that way. There's a 1:00:55.760 --> 1:01:00.280 few people he called meanie, like it's a few people. 1:01:00.920 --> 1:01:04.040 But uh, he said that about Prince a lot. You know, 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:09.960 he's a mean he's he's I can't even say man. 1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:15.080 But because because us in hip hop, we look at 1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:18.840 jay Z and now so we look at like, uh uh, 1:01:19.400 --> 1:01:22.040 Drake and Kendrick right now, and we look like, Okay, 1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:24.720 that's us who did that? We don't realize that that 1:01:24.760 --> 1:01:28.280 should been happening those rivalry. That was the first industry 1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:30.400 beef was Princeton Michael. 1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:42.240 And then us and addition, I forgot you that was 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:49.400 the second. That was the second that was super duper 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:51.520 wild because I was in the middle of the whole thing. 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:55.360 Where was that? What was it? What's the club downtown? 1:01:55.480 --> 1:01:58.880 It was like an Auditorium, man Center or something like 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:05.040 Hammi Stop, Borrow Webster Hall. It was downtown and all 1:02:05.160 --> 1:02:14.680 I can remember it was Manhattan something man Sea. Chop 1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:17.560 Cup Quest performed Rex and Effect perform and I performed 1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:25.520 with them, and now we in the audience and a 1:02:25.680 --> 1:02:28.280 fight broke out and it was one of Posse, which 1:02:28.320 --> 1:02:34.360 is my Cruel and Trip Corp quests, and I'm up 1:02:34.400 --> 1:02:41.320 here and yeah, nation, yes, next thing you know, I 1:02:41.400 --> 1:02:44.040 don't know, somebody got the best of them. And then 1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:49.080 I never knew Chop Cut quests as fighters because they 1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:53.720 are some of the best rappers in the war. But 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:58.040 it's always like my crewise just wow. Right. And when 1:02:58.080 --> 1:03:01.080 that fight broke out, all I heard was Leo saying 1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:01.360 to me. 1:03:02.560 --> 1:03:07.360 Teddy Rally, you're going to you wanna pay for this? 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:12.480 I was like, wow, I didn't know who Leo was 1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:14.360 wit what does Leo have to do? 1:03:14.480 --> 1:03:20.120 Because Leon, it was death jam That's why I had 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:22.200 to put it together. Sorry, he said, You're gonna pay 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:26.200 for this. I was like, what did I do? You 1:03:26.360 --> 1:03:34.120 the leader? That's how Leon sound You're the leader. I 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:39.680 was like wow. So I'm like, how are we gonna 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:43.479 fix this? But wait, it doesn't stem from the line 1:03:43.520 --> 1:03:45.680 that Five says in the song about New Jack Swing, 1:03:46.440 --> 1:03:49.800 no at all, because that's what everybody always know what 1:03:50.000 --> 1:03:52.560 that was from. But I knew that, but that was 1:03:52.680 --> 1:03:56.480 somebody bumped. Somebody wasn't. I don't know the timeline. It 1:03:56.600 --> 1:04:01.480 was a bump or something. Okay, I got to ask 1:04:01.560 --> 1:04:06.360 my mother I just talked to today. We got a 1:04:06.560 --> 1:04:10.680 huge building that we're about to uh move in on 1:04:11.280 --> 1:04:17.880 twenty Fish Street Club, So I'm gonna ask him about 1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:21.080 that because I never knew how that ended up. All 1:04:21.120 --> 1:04:23.480 I knew I gotta screamed that by Leoor and I 1:04:23.560 --> 1:04:25.720 was like, I didn't want to meet him that way. 1:04:25.880 --> 1:04:27.760 I didn't know who he was, but I knew he 1:04:28.040 --> 1:04:34.440 was with Russian Depth Jam and then Russell Simmons, they 1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:38.040 all walked up. I was like, Wow, this is deph Jam. 1:04:38.160 --> 1:04:40.000 I don't want to have no fight with them, like 1:04:40.200 --> 1:04:44.560 you know, so long behold. It led to us having 1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:49.160 a meeting at the Moss on a deal it was, 1:04:50.360 --> 1:04:53.720 and then all law school back who went to jail 1:04:53.880 --> 1:05:02.680 because everybody had guns, and everybody had guns. I didn't 1:05:02.800 --> 1:05:08.280 go because I was like, if I go, it's gonna 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:12.320 be a problem. I feel with your affiliation with Alpho 1:05:12.440 --> 1:05:14.200 in them is no no, no, no no, So it's 1:05:14.240 --> 1:05:17.360 not it's not We cannot say that not them. Nah, 1:05:17.440 --> 1:05:18.480 they didn't get involved. 1:05:18.520 --> 1:05:21.160 You've been involved with a lot of cases. 1:05:23.280 --> 1:05:27.240 But imagine as regular fans seeing this playout, not for them. 1:05:27.360 --> 1:05:29.560 We didn't think of rex and Effects as necessarily on 1:05:29.680 --> 1:05:36.000 some Doug ship and question. Yeah, we were confined. Now 1:05:36.120 --> 1:05:38.560 understood the Zoo Do Nation aspect of it, and then 1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:42.160 then we started reading more into who was behind rexing 1:05:42.200 --> 1:05:44.480 Effects and the crew y'all had, and then we saw 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:46.520 how it was going to get a little nasty. Wow. 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:50.360 I think we started out damn the Bloods and the 1:05:50.440 --> 1:05:57.200 crips in the projects. Damn it. I mean why y'all 1:05:57.240 --> 1:06:13.000 were read right now? Damn bro. But when it all happened, 1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:17.640 shout outs, because you know, Uncle Mike conception, it's like 1:06:17.720 --> 1:06:20.600 my uncle, No, I did you say that is your 1:06:20.680 --> 1:06:23.640 uncle Mike exception? Yeah, you might as well say, man, 1:06:23.800 --> 1:06:26.600 we've done a whole lot, you know, I kind of 1:06:27.160 --> 1:06:31.439 He always said I saved him from you know, getting killed, 1:06:32.160 --> 1:06:36.280 you know. And he had a meeting in New York 1:06:36.440 --> 1:06:40.320 with the Chris Sanda Bloods and he told them. Yo. 1:06:40.600 --> 1:06:43.920 If it wasn't for Teddy, he ate my life and 1:06:45.480 --> 1:06:49.360 I got calls from everybody like, yo, you saved my 1:06:49.480 --> 1:06:54.880 conception's life. We just business, and you know he basically 1:06:55.000 --> 1:06:58.520 helped me, you know, with sharing my business. He was 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:01.760 a part of me working with Mike Cool Wow him 1:07:02.040 --> 1:07:06.240 the Black Godfather and Quincy Jones. He's the one that 1:07:06.280 --> 1:07:09.600 did all in the same game. Yeah right, yeah, that's right. 1:07:09.880 --> 1:07:12.800 So yeah, I always you know, get flowers with it 1:07:12.960 --> 1:07:15.840 do and he's one of the ones that you know, 1:07:16.480 --> 1:07:23.560 really saved me with Jean, you know, West coast side 1:07:23.920 --> 1:07:26.400 and then on the East coast side, my uncle owned 1:07:26.400 --> 1:07:32.880 the rooftop. My uncle and uh affiliated with Country and 1:07:33.720 --> 1:07:40.840 NIGGI bonds people, the council. You're the council. My oldest 1:07:41.040 --> 1:07:45.720 brother was a part of the council. So when I 1:07:45.960 --> 1:07:48.440 left Jean and broke up with Jean and eighty nine, 1:07:48.440 --> 1:07:52.439 I know, we're jumping all over the Jean eighty nine 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:56.360 because we got to get back to the game. Yeah yeah, 1:07:57.560 --> 1:08:00.760 we got it ready ready, yeah, by somebody else asking 1:08:00.800 --> 1:08:05.120 the same thing. But when I left Geane eighty nine, 1:08:08.120 --> 1:08:12.480 it was because of my mother. You know. My mother 1:08:12.600 --> 1:08:14.200 was like, if you don't leave him going back to 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:18.280 the projects. And I wasn't having that. So when I 1:08:18.400 --> 1:08:22.800 left him, there was a contract all my life. Oh wow, 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:27.599 and people were hearing about it, you know, watch out, 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:31.800 watch out for Geene or watch out. So of course 1:08:31.960 --> 1:08:35.719 I have my family, and I have an incredible team, 1:08:36.840 --> 1:08:40.559 and then I have the brothers, you know from the Moss. 1:08:41.240 --> 1:08:45.280 In fact, he was actually eighty six from the Moss, 1:08:46.680 --> 1:08:51.479 you know, because of me. So when all that happened, 1:08:51.640 --> 1:08:55.400 my uncle took it upon himself, got with Nikki's people, 1:08:57.000 --> 1:08:59.800 and Country was the one who bought Jean, because you know, 1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:03.200 he kind of had a hold on jan so he went, 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:06.560 I don't know if you're familiar with uh. There's a 1:09:06.640 --> 1:09:11.439 place that the Italians own in Harlem call the flash 1:09:12.720 --> 1:09:17.280 the flash Bar. I wasn't familiar. It's only bar. Most 1:09:17.320 --> 1:09:20.839 of the homes and all the projects and the buildings 1:09:20.880 --> 1:09:26.320 are brown and you know, beige, and this was the 1:09:26.479 --> 1:09:32.120 only red spot. And why they have it read because 1:09:32.360 --> 1:09:37.360 some people don't leave it. They die in there, almost 1:09:37.439 --> 1:09:40.160 like rails. I mean, I put that on rals. But 1:09:41.439 --> 1:09:45.599 but they called a meeting with Jean at the flash Bar. 1:09:47.240 --> 1:09:50.519 And when they call that meeting, my uncle called me. 1:09:50.600 --> 1:09:54.400 He said, you're gonna go in here. If you flinch 1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:58.599 or you you feel don't feel good about this, you're 1:09:58.640 --> 1:10:03.800 gonna leave. We're gonna stay and he's not coming out 1:10:03.840 --> 1:10:11.760 of here. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna follow 1:10:11.840 --> 1:10:17.479 the plan and I'll tell you about Alpo too. So 1:10:17.960 --> 1:10:21.560 I followed the plan and my uncle started the conversation. 1:10:21.720 --> 1:10:26.120 He said, what is this? You have a contract out 1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:33.080 of my nephew, and Jeanne kind of just said, I 1:10:33.120 --> 1:10:37.200 don't have a contract. You know, maybe somebody else that 1:10:38.160 --> 1:10:40.640 you know care about me and you know, felt like, 1:10:41.960 --> 1:10:45.000 you know he did me wrong, but they don't know. 1:10:46.360 --> 1:10:48.600 But if it's something that I can control, I'm going 1:10:48.680 --> 1:10:52.400 to control it because he's like my son. He actually 1:10:52.560 --> 1:11:00.120 was my godfather. So when that happened, I said to 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:07.519 my uncle, we're good. He said, you go ahead. I said, 1:11:08.400 --> 1:11:11.280 let me speak to you. He gave me and he said, 1:11:13.000 --> 1:11:17.839 he said, what do you want? I said, don't do anything, 1:11:19.439 --> 1:11:21.479 but to your uncle. You're saying that no to Jane. 1:11:21.479 --> 1:11:23.759 I said that to my uncle, don't do anything. To Jane, 1:11:25.560 --> 1:11:31.920 don't do nothing. I believe him because sometimes it could 1:11:31.960 --> 1:11:35.880 be your crew. Yep. Just like posse Deep. I didn't 1:11:35.880 --> 1:11:39.320 do nothing with child Caught Quest, but posse Deep got 1:11:39.400 --> 1:11:43.920 into it. But it looks like I'm the leader because 1:11:43.960 --> 1:11:47.800 it is my crew, so and they were signed to me, 1:11:48.080 --> 1:11:52.519 so it looks like me. So I believed him, and 1:11:54.920 --> 1:11:59.000 long behold. Years later, Jeane Griffin and I got back together, wow, 1:11:59.479 --> 1:12:07.879 as father and son, godfather and son. And before he passed, 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:11.040 you know, I got to you know, take him out 1:12:11.080 --> 1:12:14.040 of the home because he had dementia. So I got 1:12:14.120 --> 1:12:17.800 to take him out of the home. And in fact, 1:12:17.880 --> 1:12:22.640 that's a that's a chapter in my book about forgiveness. 1:12:24.200 --> 1:12:27.000 I feel like, if you don't have forgiveness in your heart, 1:12:28.800 --> 1:12:35.240 you'll never leave this earth complete. Mm hm. So I 1:12:35.280 --> 1:12:41.400 always believe in, you know, completion. So that's what happened 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:42.880 with that. But let me tell you something else that 1:12:43.320 --> 1:12:44.639 I'll post. Said on the radio. 1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:52.280 He's like, yeah, I'm the one that Teddy stopped from 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:52.880 killing Jean. 1:12:53.439 --> 1:12:57.120 I was like, wow, Yeah, I told him too, wow, 1:12:57.560 --> 1:13:00.439 because they wanted they wanted to kill So that's true, 1:13:00.680 --> 1:13:04.800 huh kind of true. It was true. It's true. I 1:13:04.840 --> 1:13:07.920 don't I just don't believe in that, you know, unless 1:13:07.960 --> 1:13:13.080 this by all means necessary, right, I just don't believe 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:15.559 that anybody should die. 1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:18.599 But but that shows the power that you have by 1:13:18.680 --> 1:13:21.160 not flexing your power. But you know what I mean, 1:13:21.640 --> 1:13:25.040 that shows the smartness in who you are. 1:13:25.120 --> 1:13:27.880 You know what I'm saying, Like like I mean, coming 1:13:27.920 --> 1:13:30.080 from the streets and coming from the hood, you know, 1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:35.760 and and experienced the hustling life. And I've seen people, 1:13:35.840 --> 1:13:42.439 I've been in shootouts, and that's not nothing to play with, 1:13:43.280 --> 1:13:47.240 especially when you see your friend take a bullet, right. 1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:51.400 I see my friend take a bullet right, and I 1:13:51.600 --> 1:13:57.880 rode with uh, the guy who actually battled Biggie the 1:13:57.960 --> 1:14:00.880 skinny kid. I heard you. I heard you say that before. 1:14:01.000 --> 1:14:02.800 He the one who brought me to the game. Wow. 1:14:04.000 --> 1:14:08.040 We was hustling for some big timers until we had 1:14:08.080 --> 1:14:11.360 our own, and then they kicked me off the street. 1:14:12.120 --> 1:14:14.920 I protected you different blocks. I mean, they kicked me 1:14:14.960 --> 1:14:17.479 off Shaw for all the right reasons though, Yeah, but 1:14:17.600 --> 1:14:20.920 it was because they knew, Yo, he gonna be something. 1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:22.880 I got that in my notes the shack crew. So 1:14:23.360 --> 1:14:25.840 let's get on with the gate man. I don't think 1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:28.160 that exists today though, that kicking off for the right reason. 1:14:28.200 --> 1:14:30.840 I don't think that's happening anymore. Unfortunately, you know. You know, 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:38.040 when I heard your story, probably the last person I've 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:43.519 heard was in my hood, Kenny Anderson, Like the drug 1:14:43.560 --> 1:14:44.599 dealers just protected him. 1:14:44.600 --> 1:14:46.800 The drug dealers knew that he was gonna go, and 1:14:47.000 --> 1:14:48.800 they took him right off the streets. 1:14:48.520 --> 1:14:50.439 And was just like, yo, I don't think he could 1:14:50.479 --> 1:14:53.320 he was Kenny. I'm sorry if I'm blowing this up, 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:55.160 but I don't even think he was allowed outside. Not 1:14:55.240 --> 1:14:57.479 in a bad way, but in a way it was like, yo, 1:14:58.240 --> 1:15:01.040 we see, we see you have a better life ahead 1:15:01.040 --> 1:15:05.000 of you, so we're gonna protect that. And like Alan 1:15:05.080 --> 1:15:07.960 Iverson was in that here, but that was because he 1:15:08.080 --> 1:15:11.080 used to play ball for my celebrity team. I believe 1:15:11.120 --> 1:15:14.519 they protected him the same way, you know. And and 1:15:14.680 --> 1:15:17.880 he had some real people around him. What what news 1:15:18.720 --> 1:15:24.200 in Norfolk. Everybody was behind him, you know, even myself, 1:15:24.320 --> 1:15:28.160 you know, we It's like he was the guy coming 1:15:28.200 --> 1:15:30.920 out of Virginia. It's like everybody was being birth out 1:15:30.960 --> 1:15:36.120 of Virginia, you know. And I was there to really experience, 1:15:36.240 --> 1:15:40.439 witness and be a part of, you know, architecting that. 1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:44.040 So let's let's getting back to the game. 1:15:44.040 --> 1:15:46.400 You ready, this is by the way, this is the 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:50.880 Dominican guy and the Columbian guy over there, just we 1:15:51.120 --> 1:15:54.160 just noise over there that we just assume they do cocaine. 1:15:54.240 --> 1:15:58.320 We don't know for We don't know for like a fact, 1:15:58.560 --> 1:15:59.600 but we think we assume it. 1:16:00.000 --> 1:16:06.360 Okay, for real or Timberland the same question. Yesterday I 1:16:06.479 --> 1:16:10.880 did a good job, didn't I practice? Now? Okay, I'm 1:16:10.920 --> 1:16:15.599 definitely gonna give y'all my stories on both fleets, stories 1:16:15.640 --> 1:16:25.000 on both Okay, Okay, Nah, I'm gonna plead the fifth Okay, yes, 1:16:25.400 --> 1:16:31.760 waiting you too? Money? Yeah, I don't even got one. Yeah, yeah, 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:39.320 I'm gonna tell you why. Because they both are dangerous. Yes, 1:16:40.040 --> 1:16:43.280 they are not to be played with, still today, still 1:16:43.360 --> 1:16:49.760 to the day. And I I feel like with both 1:16:49.840 --> 1:16:54.479 of them, you can hear record it is and not 1:16:54.640 --> 1:16:59.240 know as there like me, you can hear a record 1:16:59.280 --> 1:17:02.640 of mine and not his mine. And those people you 1:17:02.760 --> 1:17:06.719 do not play with. It's like you you can't just say, 1:17:06.880 --> 1:17:13.200 oh you can you know, stand tall with these guys. 1:17:14.479 --> 1:17:18.160 They still doing it. They're I love it. I don't 1:17:18.200 --> 1:17:21.360 see why I would put them against each other, because 1:17:21.479 --> 1:17:26.160 we all came up together. You know, it's so crazy. 1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:29.439 We went to the same church. That's crazy, now, that's 1:17:29.960 --> 1:17:37.559 that's pasta was h for else, cousin he passed away. 1:17:37.720 --> 1:17:41.760 He passed away. But yeah, but in Virginia, so you 1:17:43.080 --> 1:17:46.400 for all and Timberland went to the same church. I 1:17:46.520 --> 1:17:49.960 wonder what this drew was like. Oh no, I donated. 1:17:50.600 --> 1:17:54.719 I donated equipment to the church, the equipment, the sound system. 1:17:55.800 --> 1:17:59.840 I donated to the church. In fact, because I have 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:06.320 my studio before everybody, the pastor Webbin thorough Good, Bishop 1:18:06.439 --> 1:18:10.320 thorough Good used to do all of his sermon tapes 1:18:10.479 --> 1:18:17.960 at my studio. I mean, let's make some noise. So okay, 1:18:18.280 --> 1:18:22.640 you want to you need this one Black street or 1:18:22.760 --> 1:18:31.400 guy said that none of them no no, no, no, 1:18:31.520 --> 1:18:35.560 I ain't cleating the fifth No no, no, no, you 1:18:35.680 --> 1:18:42.760 know dances me. You still got to drop it. Why 1:18:42.960 --> 1:18:46.760 because you basically said both of them. Yeah, that's what 1:18:46.960 --> 1:18:52.479 drinks me? Why say me? Because developing both groups and 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:56.360 being a part part of both groups, and then you know, 1:18:58.240 --> 1:19:00.960 stepping out of it because you've done it for so 1:19:01.120 --> 1:19:07.000 long and realize that you know, in your relationship right, 1:19:07.760 --> 1:19:12.240 and you realized why you left her damn when you 1:19:12.360 --> 1:19:15.840 got back with her, Oh ship damn. I knew why 1:19:15.920 --> 1:19:22.479 I left her alone. It's the same situation. Well, guy 1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:31.920 or black Street, that's on you because you know I've 1:19:31.920 --> 1:19:35.200 seen you say that these guys don't like you, right, 1:19:35.400 --> 1:19:38.599 that's true. It's I know they ain't got love, they 1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:43.000 don't never had love. Wait what talking about? I'm sorry 1:19:43.080 --> 1:19:49.160 what never had love? And I'll tell you why love? 1:19:50.720 --> 1:19:57.240 It's an action, okay for me? You guys, show me 1:19:57.479 --> 1:20:02.960 because I'm showing you I major your first big money 1:20:03.000 --> 1:20:09.599 you have ever made your whole entire life. And if 1:20:09.680 --> 1:20:13.640 I don't get the love from that and then give you, 1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:19.160 I gift you publishing because you ain't like nothing, Wow, 1:20:21.200 --> 1:20:24.439 and then you're gonna go and bite my back out. 1:20:28.080 --> 1:20:30.439 That's how I say what I say. You know that's 1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:36.720 not street ordinance street ordinances. And then you want to 1:20:36.920 --> 1:20:42.120 you want to go solo. I had your publishing, I 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:45.840 had everything. I'll give it back to you. Who would 1:20:45.880 --> 1:20:48.439 you do if someone gave you a whole life that 1:20:48.520 --> 1:20:53.200 appreciate that? No appreciation, That's what I meant. There's no 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:59.800 appreciation and you're still being able to eat. I can 1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:07.200 stop it. I would never do that, right, but I'm 1:21:07.320 --> 1:21:10.559 kind of thinking about it. It's a thought. You know why, 1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:15.160 because if you're going to continue stopping what I would 1:21:15.280 --> 1:21:21.720 like to do with my music, with your two or 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:25.519 three percent on the publisher side, you know, two or 1:21:25.560 --> 1:21:29.040 three percent can stop you, they can block you. But 1:21:29.200 --> 1:21:32.400 we're about to change that. It's a new legislations that's 1:21:32.479 --> 1:21:38.760 about to drop where if you ain't got a substantial 1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:44.880 amount of publishing, you get your little percentage because the 1:21:45.000 --> 1:21:48.920 people with this substantial amount are the ones that control 1:21:49.000 --> 1:21:53.720 the copyrights. Nothing you can do about it, and that's 1:21:53.800 --> 1:22:00.560 being it's going in the legislations. So now that I 1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:04.880 owe my publisher, right, I just got it. You just 1:22:05.000 --> 1:22:09.240 got it, just got it? How many just got it that? 1:22:09.680 --> 1:22:15.599 You know? How twenty three? Really? Because it's thirty five 1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:19.360 years and then they're doing the captions. We did the 1:22:19.479 --> 1:22:23.599 first I think three hundred something songs, and now it's 1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:26.040 the next three hundred something songs, and then it's gonna 1:22:26.120 --> 1:22:33.880 keep going. I have a thousand songs. And yeah, did 1:22:33.920 --> 1:22:35.680 you say four thousand songs? I'm sorry, no, no, no, 1:22:35.800 --> 1:22:38.800 I said over one thousands, oh one thousand songs. Yeah, 1:22:39.080 --> 1:22:44.240 Holy moly, I don't even know how that works. I 1:22:45.200 --> 1:22:47.760 I think I was the producer like Tupac. Tupac made 1:22:47.800 --> 1:22:50.720 a song every day, you know what I'm saying, If 1:22:50.760 --> 1:22:53.320 not more, I did like four or five. You know, 1:22:53.400 --> 1:22:57.640 I was just making records for any and everybody. As 1:22:57.720 --> 1:22:59.519 I said before, I was just one of my music 1:22:59.600 --> 1:23:01.760 out there and I had to make a lot of it. 1:23:01.920 --> 1:23:05.920 So one gonna go, right, but not knowing that, you 1:23:06.000 --> 1:23:12.200 know a lot of them would go. So yeah, let's 1:23:12.280 --> 1:23:15.200 keep it going, let's keep coming going. You just I'm 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:19.400 just so happy. I'm sorry paid him full or Juice 1:23:21.200 --> 1:23:28.800 Movies paid in full. Mm hmm, I get it. I 1:23:28.880 --> 1:23:34.000 mean why because somehow I'm like, I'm in there, you're close. Yeah, 1:23:34.240 --> 1:23:37.000 you ride around the corner from there. I lived right 1:23:37.080 --> 1:23:40.040 around the corner from with everything, and they used to 1:23:40.080 --> 1:23:45.040 come up to the rooftop, you know, and we all 1:23:45.200 --> 1:23:47.679 used to just we we're the ones like we would chart, 1:23:47.760 --> 1:23:50.559 but we would do a bunch of stuff together. It's 1:23:50.640 --> 1:23:53.479 just they wouldn't let me. They wouldn't let me hustle. 1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:59.080 We do anything together, but you know, have fun. I 1:23:59.200 --> 1:24:01.880 never had to pay for anything with them. Well, they 1:24:01.960 --> 1:24:07.680 did right by you. Absolutely Next one, okay, analog or 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:13.360 digital of course, you know it Analog all day. Analog 1:24:16.760 --> 1:24:19.040 you're gonna say anahog And why I'll tell you on 1:24:19.080 --> 1:24:25.240 the technical side. Why analog is uh, how you would say? 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:32.000 It's the warmth, the warmth, the warmth, Yes of music. 1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:37.160 Now we can go even deeper. I would love for 1:24:37.200 --> 1:24:42.040 it to go back to analog and uh, four three 1:24:42.040 --> 1:24:46.840 to two frequency wave. Do y'all know about that? Now 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:50.280 you go, yeah, I don't know what. Four three to 1:24:50.320 --> 1:24:52.920 two is the way we should be listening to music. 1:24:53.040 --> 1:24:56.400 So when you hear four three to two records, it 1:24:56.479 --> 1:25:01.400 will make you relax. This music doesn't make us relax. 1:25:01.560 --> 1:25:06.080 Sometimes we catch headaches and we're not supposed to four 1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:09.840 three to two. You listen to a Beatles song, it's 1:25:09.920 --> 1:25:13.280 four three two, Or go back to a Michael Jackson 1:25:13.760 --> 1:25:18.000 the Jackson five song, like ABC, it was a four 1:25:18.000 --> 1:25:21.559 to three to two instead of four to four one. 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:29.200 Four four one is the frequency that makes us, you know, laugh, cry, fight, 1:25:30.600 --> 1:25:35.400 catch headache, the press. Right, it's all the things it 1:25:35.520 --> 1:25:38.479 does to you. We shouldn't be having. Well, four three 1:25:38.479 --> 1:25:40.240 to two when you listen to it's like we're in 1:25:40.320 --> 1:25:43.160 tune for that. We're in tune. We're in tune for 1:25:43.360 --> 1:25:47.200 four three two makes sense. I always like to mention 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:50.720 DJ Quick had said something about, yeah, that's the analog 1:25:51.080 --> 1:25:54.479 we speak four three too, absorbing the energy also in 1:25:54.840 --> 1:25:56.640 that studio in the room, and like it absorbs that 1:25:56.760 --> 1:25:58.559 And that's what I like analog. 1:25:58.760 --> 1:26:02.320 I like analog because if we had to work with 1:26:02.479 --> 1:26:05.280 each other, I would have to come to your studio. 1:26:05.520 --> 1:26:07.240 You would have to come to my studio. We have 1:26:07.320 --> 1:26:09.280 to bring an eight inch rail what was it called? 1:26:13.560 --> 1:26:15.680 And when you were listening, So I always say that, 1:26:15.720 --> 1:26:17.439 and I kind of like sound like the older dude 1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:19.240 in the room when I say that ship, because I'm like, yo, 1:26:19.479 --> 1:26:23.280 the music sounds better because we had we we like, 1:26:23.400 --> 1:26:25.160 if we didn't like each other, you would hear that 1:26:25.240 --> 1:26:28.800 ship on the record like we were there, like all 1:26:28.920 --> 1:26:31.759 that music. When people say that it's the great Erawell 1:26:31.840 --> 1:26:35.200 Golden era, guess what that music was made with you 1:26:35.439 --> 1:26:38.760 and the producer in the room together, as opposed to 1:26:38.880 --> 1:26:39.160 right now. 1:26:39.240 --> 1:26:43.040 It's like, if I have to persist something to a soundtrack, 1:26:43.640 --> 1:26:45.720 you could just you could just you could send it 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:48.439 to me. I'm me and you have never even met, 1:26:49.520 --> 1:26:53.439 and I'm laying the verse. You don't really co sign 1:26:53.520 --> 1:26:55.600 my verse. You gotta check, I gotta check, and we 1:26:55.680 --> 1:26:59.760 both just like fucking like it's like whatever, that wasn't 1:26:59.840 --> 1:27:01.759 like that, And I'm sorry to sound like the older 1:27:01.800 --> 1:27:07.679 guy in the room. Sorry, I know how back because 1:27:07.880 --> 1:27:10.200 we say back in my day and I don't mean it. 1:27:11.160 --> 1:27:12.880 I don't mean it like that. But what I'm trying 1:27:12.880 --> 1:27:15.320 to tell you is like when, but now we can 1:27:15.360 --> 1:27:17.519 look at the people that said that and understand why 1:27:17.600 --> 1:27:23.280 they said back in understand But these classic records that 1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:27.680 like listen, like again, we're looking at your disography and 1:27:28.000 --> 1:27:31.360 it just keeps going and I cannot see these records 1:27:31.439 --> 1:27:34.559 being produced without you in the room, with these people 1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:37.200 making it. You have you had to be like like 1:27:37.320 --> 1:27:38.439 I like and. 1:27:38.479 --> 1:27:41.840 Then I'm like, I'm like, you said something earlier and 1:27:41.880 --> 1:27:43.360 we're gonna get back to quick time of slant, but 1:27:43.400 --> 1:27:44.240 you said something earlier. 1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:48.519 It was like these guys don't have a. 1:27:48.600 --> 1:27:51.160 Sound, but they have a sound like so like you 1:27:51.240 --> 1:27:55.120 were just talking about Timbaland and Pharrell, right, and I 1:27:55.439 --> 1:27:58.599 relate that to like DJ Premier, like things like that, Jermi, 1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:01.200 you can you can you can say that's a sound 1:28:01.320 --> 1:28:03.559 for d J p May, but then DJ May would 1:28:03.560 --> 1:28:05.640 do something for Christina Aguilera and you'll be like, I 1:28:05.680 --> 1:28:07.880 don't see I don't hear him doing it. 1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:08.320 Yeah. 1:28:08.439 --> 1:28:10.840 So it's like, so that's the same thing with you, 1:28:11.040 --> 1:28:13.760 like like you can work with anybody, Like is that 1:28:13.960 --> 1:28:15.880 something that you did deliberately? 1:28:18.600 --> 1:28:21.800 I was sort of like how Mike Tyson say, I 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:25.519 will fight anybody. I would work with anybody. I work 1:28:25.600 --> 1:28:30.599 with Tom Jones. It's not unusual, well to be love. 1:28:31.840 --> 1:28:37.800 I worked with him. I work with Billy Ocean. I 1:28:37.880 --> 1:28:43.519 work with Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown, but that's not my 1:28:44.400 --> 1:28:51.960 personal that's not my alley. Yeah, but not a Billy Ocean, 1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:57.320 not a Jane Child, right, don't want to fall in 1:28:57.400 --> 1:29:01.200 love trying to turn to pop record, pop rock record 1:29:01.400 --> 1:29:05.000 black you know what I'm saying, Like it was nothing 1:29:06.240 --> 1:29:09.000 and she she's a white girl, she's Caucasian. I'm like, 1:29:09.600 --> 1:29:15.840 there's nothing about that record. The remix I was, I was, 1:29:15.960 --> 1:29:17.640 that was I was getting my money up because I 1:29:17.720 --> 1:29:21.519 was broke. That's when I left Jane. He took everything, 1:29:21.840 --> 1:29:27.200 like you know, like Kelly's manager, you know, when he 1:29:27.280 --> 1:29:30.960 took everything. I was stuck with twenty dollars in a 1:29:31.080 --> 1:29:37.599 platinum American Express that was given to me by one 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:40.799 of the group members. I signed and I was joking 1:29:40.840 --> 1:29:44.280 that card and she gave me the card and she said, 1:29:44.280 --> 1:29:46.400 you're gonna need it. I ain't know what I was 1:29:46.439 --> 1:29:49.120 gonna need it for. And shit, I was stuck at 1:29:49.160 --> 1:29:53.400 the airport with twenty dollars and I called her. I said, 1:29:53.520 --> 1:29:55.519 I think I'm gonna have to come stay with you 1:29:55.720 --> 1:29:58.920 until I can get back to get my family. She's like, 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:01.280 you remember that car gave you that? She was joking 1:30:02.760 --> 1:30:06.000 it was a Platinum Americans under her name. No, it's 1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:10.519 in my name. I was how you say I was 1:30:10.640 --> 1:30:13.080 under her I'm saying it was her account, but her account. 1:30:13.120 --> 1:30:17.160 She gave me my own card. That's why you are 1:30:17.240 --> 1:30:20.320 going to need it. I said, why Whate'm I needed 1:30:20.360 --> 1:30:22.560 for it? She said, just put it, keep it, do 1:30:22.760 --> 1:30:25.200 not get rid of it. And I never got rid 1:30:25.200 --> 1:30:27.559 of that card. And I was at the airport trying 1:30:27.600 --> 1:30:30.760 to get a ticket with the GR production card that 1:30:30.920 --> 1:30:34.840 me and Jean. I had two GR cards GR cards 1:30:34.880 --> 1:30:37.280 and none of them worked. She was like, no, you 1:30:37.400 --> 1:30:42.800 got another form of payment. It's like, oh, so he 1:30:42.920 --> 1:30:44.559 knew what I was doing. I was up in New 1:30:44.640 --> 1:30:50.360 York releasing everybody from their contract. Guy today Tammy Lucas 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:57.960 Big Blub his solo contract. Everybody he found out, and 1:30:58.080 --> 1:31:00.800 that's probably the reason why he was trying to put 1:31:00.840 --> 1:31:04.559 a contract out my life. So with that being said, 1:31:05.600 --> 1:31:11.559 that card, it's the only thing I had. And when 1:31:11.920 --> 1:31:14.400 the car went through, you know, I gave it to 1:31:14.960 --> 1:31:18.840 the catch the clerk. She took the car and she said, 1:31:18.880 --> 1:31:24.920 your first class seat. I said, how much is on 1:31:25.080 --> 1:31:27.439 this card? She said, what do you want on there? 1:31:27.520 --> 1:31:33.439 I said, what could you do? She said, you want 1:31:33.479 --> 1:31:37.200 a hundred thousand? I said, yeah, put a hundred thousand. Yeah, 1:31:37.240 --> 1:31:39.760 go ahead, go ahead, keep the party going. Sad you 1:31:39.840 --> 1:31:42.360 a life saver. I see you when I come back 1:31:42.400 --> 1:31:48.439 to New York. And I used that card to get 1:31:48.479 --> 1:31:51.920 my family back and actually move into a place because 1:31:51.960 --> 1:31:56.040 I was like, yo, it's to pack for me, my 1:31:56.280 --> 1:32:01.760 daughter and my fiance at the time to move back 1:32:01.800 --> 1:32:05.519 into the projects. So we were there for a week 1:32:06.600 --> 1:32:12.000 and that's when I moved to Biggie's old place with 1:32:12.160 --> 1:32:13.880 the elevator that goes straight up to the bed. And 1:32:14.080 --> 1:32:21.040 heard about that. So back to who was Yeah, because 1:32:21.040 --> 1:32:24.840 I'm a little caught up right now that we were 1:32:25.360 --> 1:32:30.040 great smell juices, the berries you get the berries going everywhere. 1:32:30.200 --> 1:32:34.360 We're still quick time. So okay, okay, ready Rich Porter 1:32:34.479 --> 1:32:40.240 or as rich Porter, it should have been rich Porter. 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:43.479 Yeah that's what you should have said. And then I 1:32:43.640 --> 1:32:47.280 was still gave you the same result. But a Z 1:32:48.120 --> 1:32:52.280 and Rich Porter was like the guys A Z was 1:32:52.360 --> 1:32:54.479 really the ones like, yeah, we can't let him hustle 1:32:54.560 --> 1:33:00.920 with us. So yeah, you said you okay, all right, 1:33:00.960 --> 1:33:07.479 come only realized buddy Corn, come on back, Heavy Deer, 1:33:07.560 --> 1:33:14.760 Big Daddy came, come on, y'all, we got the shot. 1:33:14.880 --> 1:33:17.000 We gotta shot shot. You an't gotta take a shot. 1:33:17.040 --> 1:33:30.280 We take the chat. You don't have to. And I'm sorry, 1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:32.760 I'm breaking a little little thing. Do we realize how 1:33:32.880 --> 1:33:36.639 dope Heavy d was though, like what like my best friend? 1:33:36.680 --> 1:33:41.080 But Big Daddy came, was like that's my guy, man. Yeah, no, no, 1:33:41.240 --> 1:33:47.320 both both. I'm saying both, but you gotta say both again. 1:33:49.640 --> 1:33:54.000 We're gonna drive. You know, we see Chap pull up 1:33:54.000 --> 1:33:55.880 in the spread now we see ye, we know we 1:33:55.960 --> 1:34:00.000 know you driving here right here. 1:34:00.920 --> 1:34:07.040 Oh come back to my Yeah, and obviously you know Kaine, 1:34:07.040 --> 1:34:10.040 I'm not comparing them the both, but what I was 1:34:10.080 --> 1:34:12.719 saying it was like I just like again, I'm going 1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:14.760 back into hip hop and I'm going on listening back 1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:17.160 to the and when I'm listening to Heavy d I'm. 1:34:17.040 --> 1:34:19.439 Like, holy shit. You know how ahead of the time 1:34:19.880 --> 1:34:23.560 he was like holy In a lot of ways, He's like, 1:34:23.960 --> 1:34:26.559 let me say this heavy head in the old soul 1:34:27.520 --> 1:34:30.360 like I would do records for Heavy. I would play 1:34:30.439 --> 1:34:33.920 records for heavy and it will be for like Rex 1:34:34.000 --> 1:34:38.400 and Effect. Wow, And I don't know. He's so smooth man. 1:34:38.479 --> 1:34:42.680 The dude would persuade me, like you know that this 1:34:42.960 --> 1:34:47.800 song belongs to me? It was isn't good to you? 1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:52.080 What's heavy? He said, you gotta give me this. This 1:34:52.200 --> 1:34:55.400 was a Rex and Effect record. Gotta give me this tag. 1:34:55.520 --> 1:34:58.840 Come on, man, come on, you gotta do this. Man. 1:34:59.000 --> 1:35:04.680 I was like, heavy, Man, you're a bully. He's like, no, 1:35:04.800 --> 1:35:07.400 I'm not. I say, you know what, I'm promote you 1:35:07.560 --> 1:35:11.840 being a bully around people, because you really buy. He 1:35:11.920 --> 1:35:15.880 bullied me out of is it good to you? He 1:35:16.080 --> 1:35:19.360 bullied me out of we got our own thing. I 1:35:19.479 --> 1:35:23.439 was watching the fact record and now that we found love. 1:35:28.040 --> 1:35:30.840 And every time he came to my house or he 1:35:30.920 --> 1:35:34.680 came down to Virginia, he came to Virginia. He was 1:35:34.760 --> 1:35:38.639 trying to steal no Diggity. I played no diggity because 1:35:38.640 --> 1:35:40.920 I always played every is my best friend. Let me 1:35:41.000 --> 1:35:45.840 tell you something. He was trying to rap on and 1:35:45.960 --> 1:35:48.200 he's like, yo, could I get on it? At least? 1:35:50.040 --> 1:35:54.000 I was like, no, this one here, you cannot have. 1:35:55.080 --> 1:36:02.040 I'm keeping this one for myself. And he's like, all right, you, 1:36:03.560 --> 1:36:05.519 I got to tell Jimmy about this record. He was 1:36:05.560 --> 1:36:10.479 the one that convinced Jimmy this is the single because 1:36:10.560 --> 1:36:13.360 Jimmy wanted money can buy Me Love as a single. 1:36:14.720 --> 1:36:18.479 And I said, Jimmy, you sure you can't tell Jimmy, Yo, 1:36:19.080 --> 1:36:22.439 this is the single, Jimmy, unless you should Knight or somebody. 1:36:23.439 --> 1:36:26.960 I was just you know, I know, I shot him 1:36:27.000 --> 1:36:32.920 the humblest Jimmy play it for somebody so heavy, you know, 1:36:33.200 --> 1:36:37.920 usually stopped by Jimmy's And what put the icing on 1:36:38.040 --> 1:36:41.439 the cake? And we're going back to analog. What put 1:36:41.520 --> 1:36:44.680 the icing on the cake? Was Doctor Trey heard it. 1:36:45.600 --> 1:36:51.000 He said, listen Teddy Rolly's no record and Dre heard 1:36:51.040 --> 1:36:55.439 the joint and Drey was like, YO, tell ted when 1:36:55.479 --> 1:36:58.639 you do this record, I want to be in the video, 1:37:01.479 --> 1:37:03.800 saying when you do the record. He wants to be 1:37:03.880 --> 1:37:06.000 in a video, I said, Jimmy. I said, yeah, this 1:37:06.040 --> 1:37:06.400 is Jimmy. 1:37:06.400 --> 1:37:10.200 That's a great impression because I know everybody else didn't catch. 1:37:10.000 --> 1:37:12.960 It on so check it. I said, you tell Dre. 1:37:13.240 --> 1:37:15.320 Tell Dre. If he gave me sixteen, we could do 1:37:15.400 --> 1:37:19.240 this together, right, And that's how I got sixteen. And 1:37:19.360 --> 1:37:21.840 we did it analog. You know how they got it 1:37:21.920 --> 1:37:26.040 to me within twenty four hours ISD n oh oh 1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:29.360 the mail service, yes, okay, okay, So but you know 1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:34.800 how it worked. You know, actual headquarters was move No, 1:37:35.160 --> 1:37:41.439 it was in was it was again somewhere Innneapolis? Yeah, 1:37:41.640 --> 1:37:44.519 just like one place. You shoot it to them. Yeah, 1:37:44.600 --> 1:37:46.400 and you're playing it over the phone. You have to 1:37:46.479 --> 1:37:52.360 have the machine to the rack. You had to have that, 1:37:53.160 --> 1:37:56.280 and you that goes over the phone, plugged the phone 1:37:56.320 --> 1:37:59.320 through it and it plays it straight to them and 1:37:59.479 --> 1:38:03.560 then it goes to California or wherever you wanted to go. 1:38:03.720 --> 1:38:07.760 But they were the headquarters to get music sent at 1:38:08.000 --> 1:38:12.559 high quality better than digital. Wow. And this is back 1:38:12.640 --> 1:38:19.880 then nineteen ninety four when we worked on that song, 1:38:20.000 --> 1:38:24.639 and that's what convinced Jimmy and it became Jimmy's favorite song, 1:38:25.000 --> 1:38:29.639 God damn It and me and they we were together 1:38:30.160 --> 1:38:33.320 about a week and a half ago. You and Jimmy, 1:38:34.080 --> 1:38:38.640 Jimmy Andre with my phone, my phone, we want to 1:38:38.680 --> 1:38:43.040 see it. So, yeah, we were together doing Vinyl Night. 1:38:43.160 --> 1:38:45.920 You gotta do Vinyl Night with them? Okay? What is 1:38:46.040 --> 1:38:48.679 Vinyl Night? That they got the vinyl and they playing 1:38:48.720 --> 1:38:52.680 your records, all your records. So they had Paul McCartney 1:38:53.439 --> 1:38:56.560 playing all the Beatles records and it's crazy, just the 1:38:57.479 --> 1:39:03.599 high density, you know, it's like wow. So so we're 1:39:03.600 --> 1:39:05.560 sitting there and we're playing me and Dre is just 1:39:06.160 --> 1:39:10.400 joking about how and the story is consistent, like Jimmy 1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:15.000 talking about it, and it was like, yeah, that's like 1:39:15.080 --> 1:39:18.680 almost a documentary, you know what I really feel like 1:39:19.880 --> 1:39:23.680 if what was the documentary that they did was the 1:39:23.800 --> 1:39:32.479 chronicles with jim Jimmy, I V and Dre what it was. 1:39:33.960 --> 1:39:39.080 But I thought that Jimmy, because y'all know Jimmy was 1:39:39.080 --> 1:39:43.400 a producer, right, Okay, that's what the topic. Yeah, well 1:39:44.920 --> 1:39:49.920 and that's what I'm sorry, what is the Defiant? I 1:39:50.040 --> 1:39:53.679 thought it should be more defiant ones and I'm gonna 1:39:53.720 --> 1:39:56.920 show y'all something. But let me show y'all us first, 1:39:57.080 --> 1:40:00.519 like right all night. It was amazing. I'll never I 1:40:00.600 --> 1:40:04.400 don't post our pictures like that's the stuff you keep sacred, 1:40:05.720 --> 1:40:07.960 you know, because you won't find like this is that 1:40:08.120 --> 1:40:12.080 was a billion dollars in the room. Billion dollars. But 1:40:12.360 --> 1:40:17.040 I don't know if you know you're very famous, you 1:40:17.200 --> 1:40:21.280 know you're very famous, you have to I'm almost almost 1:40:22.560 --> 1:40:23.080 almost okay. 1:40:23.120 --> 1:40:23.439 I like that. 1:40:23.520 --> 1:40:23.920 I like that. 1:40:24.040 --> 1:40:24.560 I like that. 1:40:24.600 --> 1:40:27.519 I'm gonna take a shop for that. Sorry that the 1:40:27.640 --> 1:40:32.080 people that was in the room there you go, God 1:40:32.200 --> 1:40:39.880 damn it. I feel poor already. That is that Larry Jackson, 1:40:43.000 --> 1:40:45.920 doctor Dre, you and Jimmy. I mean that is let 1:40:45.960 --> 1:40:48.200 me see, let me pass around the room. 1:40:50.520 --> 1:40:53.640 That is how you how do you say money? Never 1:40:53.720 --> 1:40:57.880 want to say money around the world. He might put 1:40:57.920 --> 1:41:03.120 his number in there. They may not believe it. You know, 1:41:03.280 --> 1:41:08.559 some people don't believe yo. I was, yeah, I don't 1:41:08.560 --> 1:41:18.360 think around. I'll show you trust everybody. But when that happened, 1:41:19.640 --> 1:41:25.920 I felt like Jimmy could actually do a series of 1:41:26.080 --> 1:41:30.560 the Fine Ones easily. That's a great idea. And I 1:41:30.760 --> 1:41:32.640 was going to break the idea to him while we 1:41:32.800 --> 1:41:34.360 was at the house, but we was just having so 1:41:34.520 --> 1:41:39.640 much fun doing the final that it was so it 1:41:39.840 --> 1:41:43.160 was so listen to him. It was so special, like 1:41:43.439 --> 1:41:46.519 I want to be. I was so tired of my music. 1:41:46.600 --> 1:41:49.200 I was like, yo, play an l a read song, man, 1:41:50.040 --> 1:41:54.839 play play Dre song and it was like, no, tonight 1:41:54.960 --> 1:41:58.439 is your night, bro. I was like wow, And that 1:41:58.720 --> 1:42:02.240 was so special. Oh, you know, I felt amazed, you know, 1:42:02.360 --> 1:42:04.800 because I ain't talked to Jimmy in a while, because 1:42:04.840 --> 1:42:08.080 I kind of it's moving around. After losing my mom, 1:42:08.160 --> 1:42:11.679 I kind of went dormant. You know, you gotta go away, 1:42:12.320 --> 1:42:15.120 come back. I moved from Vegas, so I said, man, 1:42:15.160 --> 1:42:17.519 I felt like Vegas, you know, took my mother out 1:42:17.560 --> 1:42:20.400 of here. But you know, I just moved anyway. And 1:42:20.479 --> 1:42:22.000 I said, you know, let me go to Texas for 1:42:22.040 --> 1:42:25.800 a minute. Now I'm here, I'm like, let's buy a 1:42:25.880 --> 1:42:28.960 healthy baby, you know that that type of stuff I 1:42:29.160 --> 1:42:31.640 like to do. When I went to Virginia, I just 1:42:31.920 --> 1:42:37.320 set up shop and just move. But I'm gonna say this, 1:42:38.840 --> 1:42:41.360 when you got good friends, you got good people like that, 1:42:43.400 --> 1:42:46.679 you gotta really like those are the people that you keep. 1:42:47.080 --> 1:42:51.559 Those are the corners. I know, corners is it's not circles, 1:42:51.920 --> 1:42:56.320 it's corners. And I had to get rid of the circles. 1:42:56.439 --> 1:42:59.120 That's why you know, I'm not solo. I got a 1:42:59.360 --> 1:43:02.320 new team, but I just had to get away from 1:43:02.720 --> 1:43:08.080 the blessing blockers. You know, sometimes what's for you is 1:43:08.200 --> 1:43:10.599 from you, I said, blockers. I've never heard. That's crazy. 1:43:10.880 --> 1:43:14.880 What's for you for you? You know? And I've always 1:43:15.160 --> 1:43:17.920 I held I've been so patient to tell my truth, 1:43:18.000 --> 1:43:19.600 which is why I have the book now and you 1:43:19.680 --> 1:43:22.680 can see everything in there and all the people that 1:43:22.760 --> 1:43:25.800 I work with. One person that's not in there that 1:43:26.160 --> 1:43:31.920 you know, I felt. I wish he was, but because 1:43:31.920 --> 1:43:34.559 of the circumstances and I'm dealing with the corporate wall, 1:43:35.760 --> 1:43:38.960 they told me to pull it. And that's my brother Diddy, 1:43:40.280 --> 1:43:45.759 you know. I mean, I've never you know, witness or anything. 1:43:45.800 --> 1:43:49.200 I never experienced nothing, I know nothing. All I know 1:43:49.400 --> 1:43:52.680 is he was my in turn. And I only been 1:43:52.760 --> 1:43:55.559 to one event, which was when he got a star 1:43:55.640 --> 1:43:59.640 in Hollywood because it said Harlem to Hollywood. So I 1:43:59.720 --> 1:44:02.240 hope it's okay to talk about this. Of course, of 1:44:02.360 --> 1:44:05.840 course we we we we were the same way. We've 1:44:05.920 --> 1:44:08.479 never not witnessed that. Yeah, when they told me. It's 1:44:08.520 --> 1:44:11.400 just like, yo, this is very you know, it's disappointing, 1:44:11.479 --> 1:44:14.880 you know, but it is what it is, you know. 1:44:16.520 --> 1:44:20.679 But I have to say, man, it's it's a lot 1:44:20.960 --> 1:44:24.720 that we are not subject to. And we we go 1:44:24.960 --> 1:44:28.719 through stuff, and and I wish I could have caught 1:44:28.800 --> 1:44:32.160 it because I catch a lot, and I catch a 1:44:32.240 --> 1:44:36.840 lot of my brothers and my little brothers. But you know, 1:44:37.040 --> 1:44:39.800 sometimes the little brother feels like he's the big brother. 1:44:40.479 --> 1:44:43.160 Mm hm. You gotta let him become the big brother, 1:44:44.600 --> 1:44:46.600 you know. But I was, I was in there, I 1:44:46.760 --> 1:44:49.680 was out of there, in there, out of there. So 1:44:50.800 --> 1:44:54.320 let's do the game. Okay. I ain't so. 1:44:54.360 --> 1:44:57.959 Attracted off Keep Sweat or Christopher Williams. 1:45:00.960 --> 1:45:04.519 These guys come on with it. Who did Dominican in 1:45:04.560 --> 1:45:13.800 the Columbia? Okay? I understand. Okay, Well I have to 1:45:13.800 --> 1:45:17.200 say Keith Sweat. And why I say Keith Sweat because 1:45:17.320 --> 1:45:23.519 not because I work with it and not because of uh, 1:45:24.479 --> 1:45:28.479 we're brothers. I say Keith Sweat even if we wasn't brothers. 1:45:29.400 --> 1:45:35.760 Keith Sweat is a signature, right, Keith Sweat created a signature. See, 1:45:35.800 --> 1:45:38.320 it's a difference like when I created New Jack Swing. 1:45:39.160 --> 1:45:46.960 It's my signature. Christopher Williams. You know he didn't have 1:45:47.080 --> 1:45:50.320 a signature. He had a voice like Teddy Pendergrass or 1:45:51.200 --> 1:45:56.560 Colonel Abrams. You know that's that's not creating a signature. 1:45:57.040 --> 1:46:00.200 Nothing against him because he's a dope singer and he's 1:46:00.280 --> 1:46:06.479 my boy. It's my brother. But Keith, you know his records, 1:46:07.560 --> 1:46:11.400 you know that's him, and that's something you can't take 1:46:11.439 --> 1:46:13.479 away from a pressure, just like you know it's Bobby. 1:46:14.920 --> 1:46:18.639 I create signatures when I made them, saying they walked 1:46:18.680 --> 1:46:21.439 out of the studio. Both of them walked out of 1:46:21.439 --> 1:46:25.680 the studio on me. Bobby and I got into a 1:46:25.760 --> 1:46:29.000 little small argument. I don't argue. You don't let you argue. 1:46:29.120 --> 1:46:32.040 I don't argue. I just say, yo, we don't have 1:46:32.200 --> 1:46:37.639 to do this shit and keep it moving. And then 1:46:37.680 --> 1:46:42.920 he walked out. He's like, okay, eort he walked out, Bobby. Yeah, 1:46:44.520 --> 1:46:47.560 we did over the projects we did. I did. I 1:46:47.640 --> 1:46:52.519 did my progative on the twelfth track. Okay, it was 1:46:52.600 --> 1:46:57.840 like a mixtake and they couldn't create or reproduce the sound. 1:46:57.960 --> 1:46:59.720 So I had to take my twelfth track to the 1:46:59.760 --> 1:47:04.559 student video to keep the sound right. And I'm gonna stick. 1:47:04.800 --> 1:47:08.880 You know, I'm like, that's like I have to have 1:47:09.040 --> 1:47:12.840 the same sound. My ear was so keen to having 1:47:12.880 --> 1:47:15.080 the same sound. When I try to re record it 1:47:16.160 --> 1:47:21.120 at Access Studios and it's like, this don't sound like 1:47:21.280 --> 1:47:25.200 the house I need to create. I needed to crime me. 1:47:25.720 --> 1:47:27.600 So I bought that dog on, put that thing in 1:47:27.680 --> 1:47:30.000 the car. We took it down. We just dropped it. 1:47:31.360 --> 1:47:36.840 You know about writing cold and generating new Cold, Yeah, absolutely, 1:47:36.920 --> 1:47:40.840 But I want to ask one thing. No, but we 1:47:41.000 --> 1:47:43.640 had to create new COLDE in order for me to 1:47:43.760 --> 1:47:47.799 sync my drum machine or anything up to the actual 1:47:48.840 --> 1:47:53.160 Akai to the twenty four track. Oh my god. Yes, 1:47:53.280 --> 1:47:57.280 when we did that, everything turned out perfect. Now it's 1:47:57.320 --> 1:48:03.120 time to sing. Okay. We got in the studio started, 1:48:03.240 --> 1:48:05.760 I had to track up and everything. Next thing, you know, 1:48:08.600 --> 1:48:23.759 let's go yeah boom doom from boom boom doom boom, 1:48:24.320 --> 1:48:30.040 Yeah boom boom boom boom boom. Get busy. Everything is good. 1:48:30.160 --> 1:48:34.960 Right now it's time to sing. They say I'm crazy. 1:48:36.360 --> 1:48:39.680 I really don't care. He was singing it not like 1:48:39.760 --> 1:48:41.840 the record. I said stop. 1:48:44.960 --> 1:48:48.960 Stop, okay, see he pre recorded it on the other track. 1:48:49.040 --> 1:48:52.599 You're saying, no, we were practicing okay. We never put 1:48:52.640 --> 1:48:57.200 the vocal down at the house. The music was down, okay. 1:48:57.479 --> 1:49:00.240 When we got to the studio, we we had this 1:49:00.479 --> 1:49:03.160 is like, okay, you're good, all right, let's take it 1:49:03.200 --> 1:49:05.799 to the studio. So we took it to the studio 1:49:05.920 --> 1:49:12.599 and he's singing it different. Next thing you know, I said, stop, bo, 1:49:14.400 --> 1:49:16.120 you ain't singing it like how you was doing it 1:49:16.200 --> 1:49:20.160 at the house. Man, I don't forget nothing, he said, 1:49:20.160 --> 1:49:27.960 who's talking to I told you. I was just like, yo, 1:49:28.160 --> 1:49:33.040 I mean, I'm just saying. He's like calling at me. 1:49:33.120 --> 1:49:35.640 I'm like, I'm just saying, man, you ain't singing and 1:49:35.800 --> 1:49:38.519 like how you did it at the house. Now come on, man, 1:49:38.600 --> 1:49:43.920 he said, you know who I am. I mean girl 1:49:44.040 --> 1:49:47.479 next door. I make hits. Just how you started flexing. 1:49:47.600 --> 1:49:53.920 I was like, you know, we don't have to do this. 1:49:57.479 --> 1:50:04.400 He said, fuck it. Damn. He left the studio and 1:50:04.520 --> 1:50:07.120 then the air and all called me apologize. He was 1:50:07.200 --> 1:50:10.160 just like, yo, please don't leave the studio. I'm about 1:50:10.160 --> 1:50:13.519 to go home. I don't I don't have to do this. 1:50:15.240 --> 1:50:17.040 He said, man, just give me a chance. Let me 1:50:17.160 --> 1:50:19.800 call him, and they called him and said, yo, if 1:50:19.840 --> 1:50:21.680 you don't get your ass back in the studio. We 1:50:21.800 --> 1:50:26.520 gonna can your album. If you got records from Babyfacing 1:50:26.720 --> 1:50:31.000 La some icons and then this is an icon. He's 1:50:31.120 --> 1:50:35.760 just not a He's not a kid, right, He's an icon. 1:50:36.479 --> 1:50:39.240 Get back in the studio. He came back to the studio, 1:50:39.280 --> 1:50:40.840 and you know how we used we try to get 1:50:40.880 --> 1:50:44.560 the last word. It's like, all right, we're gonna do 1:50:44.640 --> 1:50:47.680 this shit and if it don't go my weight, if 1:50:47.720 --> 1:50:50.080 it don't go the way you say, we're gonna do 1:50:50.160 --> 1:50:55.400 it my way. I said, okay, he said all right, 1:50:55.680 --> 1:50:58.599 let's go. I said, let's go. He said, all right, 1:51:00.080 --> 1:51:03.519 let him get the last word. He got in that 1:51:03.680 --> 1:51:05.320 room and sung it all the way up to the 1:51:05.400 --> 1:51:08.280 second verse, and he stopped. He came in the room. 1:51:08.320 --> 1:51:11.240 He said, I want to I want to hear it. Okay, 1:51:12.200 --> 1:51:14.240 So he had the demo face like he didn't want 1:51:14.280 --> 1:51:17.880 to give no type of emotions or nothing. He's just 1:51:19.040 --> 1:51:21.680 at that moment he didn't like me. So I was like, 1:51:23.560 --> 1:51:33.799 let's play the record. They say I'm crazy. I really 1:51:34.040 --> 1:51:37.160 don't care. Got all the way to the second verse, 1:51:39.200 --> 1:51:43.400 he said, I am going back in the room. He 1:51:43.479 --> 1:51:48.000 went back in the room. Next thing, you know, my 1:51:48.200 --> 1:51:51.240 name was said. I said, yeah, no, nigga like it. 1:51:51.320 --> 1:51:56.120 Now I know he like it because my name wouldn't 1:51:56.120 --> 1:51:59.200 be in there. Twice we became best friends for that, 1:51:59.560 --> 1:52:04.160 he became brothers, you know. And and that's how being 1:52:04.200 --> 1:52:07.840 a producer is like being a shrink, you know what 1:52:07.840 --> 1:52:11.000 I'm saying. Being you know, you got to convince the 1:52:11.080 --> 1:52:14.680 person that the medicine is good, trust the process, and 1:52:15.479 --> 1:52:17.720 I know we all go to it for everybody we 1:52:17.840 --> 1:52:22.519 go through it. That is, I've never heard it broke. 1:52:23.040 --> 1:52:27.880 Our job is to make you better than you thought, 1:52:28.360 --> 1:52:31.200 you know, like you think you got all you and 1:52:31.280 --> 1:52:33.479 then you didn't realize that I didn't know. I can 1:52:33.600 --> 1:52:37.320 go even more. And that's what I did with Bobby. 1:52:38.120 --> 1:52:42.719 That's that's you know, that's my barogative could have possibly 1:52:42.880 --> 1:52:46.040 not been made had he not came back to that. 1:52:46.400 --> 1:52:48.720 But I feel that the way he probably approached the 1:52:48.800 --> 1:52:52.560 record after that added to the record because man, he 1:52:52.960 --> 1:52:56.519 sung that bridge. I had one take on the bridge. 1:52:56.560 --> 1:52:59.240 He ain't had to punch nothing or nothing. He was 1:52:59.320 --> 1:53:02.080 so hypper. When you feel good about a record, you're 1:53:02.080 --> 1:53:05.400 gonna do. You're gonna make that record fire. You're gonna 1:53:05.439 --> 1:53:11.559 do the best and that's what he did, Bobby. When 1:53:11.640 --> 1:53:15.320 he got something, he got it. He would you one take. 1:53:17.080 --> 1:53:19.960 Because he's a he's a performer, and what he does 1:53:20.040 --> 1:53:22.080 on the stage, he put it in the studio. And 1:53:22.200 --> 1:53:25.320 that's the thing that I love about him. I'll tell 1:53:25.320 --> 1:53:28.719 you another one take, guys. Johnny Kemp just got paid. 1:53:29.560 --> 1:53:35.400 Was never sung twice Friday. That dude killed that record. Now, 1:53:35.960 --> 1:53:40.120 Keith Sweat, he didn't walk out of the studio. I mean, 1:53:40.200 --> 1:53:42.160 he was just hard. It was hard for him because 1:53:42.160 --> 1:53:44.640 I was I was young. It was hard for him 1:53:44.680 --> 1:53:48.000 to take the advice from me, like you know, and 1:53:48.120 --> 1:53:50.640 I had to say, this is your sound, this is 1:53:50.720 --> 1:53:54.960 your signature. And then he finally got it after listening 1:53:54.960 --> 1:54:00.360 to you know himself singing all the way down. He 1:54:00.520 --> 1:54:02.840 got it, you know. And most singers are like that, 1:54:03.360 --> 1:54:05.599 you know, when you kind of guide them. That's our 1:54:05.800 --> 1:54:10.040 job is to give you guidance. And most people don't 1:54:10.080 --> 1:54:15.519 want guidance m hm, right, especially an artists and artists, Yeah, 1:54:15.680 --> 1:54:17.479 because we have to tap into ego. That's the thing 1:54:17.520 --> 1:54:19.680 about artistry. You have to tap into your ego. And 1:54:19.760 --> 1:54:23.080 the ego is the one that exactly you ever noticed 1:54:23.080 --> 1:54:25.800 some of them artists after their first album, they become 1:54:25.880 --> 1:54:32.360 the producer. It's like, yeah, I'm producing everything. What happened 1:54:32.400 --> 1:54:38.480 to Timberlan? What happened for Well, that's who got you there. 1:54:39.440 --> 1:54:41.840 But most times, you know, you get these producers like that, 1:54:42.000 --> 1:54:44.400 and I mean these artists like that, and they want 1:54:44.440 --> 1:54:47.880 to now be the leader. You think they got it, 1:54:49.320 --> 1:54:54.320 find out that I should have listened. What's the next? 1:54:54.520 --> 1:55:00.520 Next one? Yeah, Mason can that's hard on Ship, Cameron 1:55:00.640 --> 1:55:08.320 or Mace. I gotta stay out of this one drinking. 1:55:09.880 --> 1:55:11.240 Let me get, let me get, let me get it. 1:55:15.240 --> 1:55:19.720 I pleaded the fifth drink, so we drink it. Yeah, yeah, Solu, 1:55:24.200 --> 1:55:27.280 next one. I know, people thinking, yo, he ain't drinking nothing, 1:55:27.560 --> 1:55:32.080 but I don't even know what he's drinking over there, moscatta. Yeah. 1:55:33.120 --> 1:55:39.000 I like wine because it mellows me, you know, and 1:55:39.120 --> 1:55:42.360 I don't only do it sometimes. I waited. Last time 1:55:42.360 --> 1:55:44.920 I drunk wine was maybe well three four months ago. 1:55:45.880 --> 1:55:49.720 I'm not a drinker, so I decided, you know, I 1:55:49.760 --> 1:55:51.640 didn't want to be a party pool boy. You know, 1:55:51.760 --> 1:55:53.920 this would have been great with or without you drinking. Okay, 1:55:54.160 --> 1:55:57.480 so you know, like that wasn't but it mellows me. 1:55:57.720 --> 1:55:57.880 You know. 1:55:58.040 --> 1:56:02.360 Sometimes I'll get in the studio and just you know, wife, 1:56:02.440 --> 1:56:05.040 he would be like, yo, you want to try some wine, 1:56:05.200 --> 1:56:07.920 And I'll be like, let's get it by time. Yeah, 1:56:09.760 --> 1:56:14.120 little face, Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis you better get 1:56:17.000 --> 1:56:24.120 I'm getting drinking. Look, I know, I know. I know 1:56:24.160 --> 1:56:28.000 where y'all getting to. Though, I know where y'all getting to. 1:56:29.480 --> 1:56:32.160 And with a little bit of soual water the same 1:56:32.200 --> 1:56:34.160 way you did. I like that. I got the vodka 1:56:34.240 --> 1:56:35.560 with a little bit of sal water. You know what 1:56:35.560 --> 1:56:38.320 I mean. You know a little bit of balance. Let's 1:56:38.360 --> 1:56:40.800 go balance it balance. I don't a little bit ahead? 1:56:41.320 --> 1:56:45.160 You got more? He holding it down. I ain't gonna 1:56:46.680 --> 1:56:54.520 know now. I seen you tips before. I'll tell you good. 1:56:54.960 --> 1:57:02.640 You're good. What's your name? You want to get shy? Oh? 1:57:03.080 --> 1:57:06.520 Come on, but I gotta I got I'm not drinking 1:57:06.600 --> 1:57:12.920 no more. That's crazy, I have to say, even though 1:57:14.560 --> 1:57:19.920 these are my guys, but I'm gotta be you, Sonny. 1:57:20.000 --> 1:57:23.920 Look you see him. I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick one, 1:57:25.160 --> 1:57:29.120 and I'll tell you why I picked that one. I 1:57:29.280 --> 1:57:36.880 picked shy mm hmm. Yeah. I picked Shy because I 1:57:37.040 --> 1:57:40.200 just had a performance with them them some singing fools 1:57:41.840 --> 1:57:48.240 without no music. They are singing fools. And I realized that, 1:57:48.680 --> 1:57:54.200 you know, this sound to me was like up the 1:57:54.280 --> 1:58:00.720 alley of you know boys, demen takes. You know, that 1:58:00.880 --> 1:58:04.360 harmony was lush, you know, like I love harmonies like 1:58:04.480 --> 1:58:09.080 old school do old school dop, barbershop, you know vocals. 1:58:10.040 --> 1:58:14.880 So when I first heard the If I Ever Fall 1:58:14.960 --> 1:58:20.240 in Love Again Wild record, that record is that's a problem. 1:58:21.680 --> 1:58:29.360 But High five is a problem with Tony mm hmm. 1:58:29.920 --> 1:58:33.120 When he passed, it changed. But we put them back 1:58:33.160 --> 1:58:38.720 together and they are there. You when you hear the 1:58:38.840 --> 1:58:42.640 new High five record, you're gonna be amazed. But I 1:58:42.760 --> 1:58:44.920 have to give it to Shay right now because they're together, 1:58:45.200 --> 1:58:55.360 they rocking. Okay, this is this this I din't see 1:58:55.360 --> 1:59:01.080 your phone exactly what say new edition or Jackson five? See? 1:59:02.720 --> 1:59:11.080 So so what happened was your criteria is remember this 1:59:11.200 --> 1:59:14.360 is what I have to say to Jackson five, okay, 1:59:14.800 --> 1:59:17.520 because they wouldn't be there wouldn't be no new addition 1:59:17.680 --> 1:59:23.800 without the Jackson five and the Jackson five. When I 1:59:23.920 --> 1:59:27.840 work with the Jackson's and Michael, I work with them 1:59:27.880 --> 1:59:33.520 all and we did twenty three hundred Jackson Street and 1:59:36.160 --> 1:59:41.360 they were I'm sorry, you give me this doesn't happen. 1:59:41.400 --> 1:59:48.120 But their harmonies, their harmonies are amazing, and but just 1:59:48.200 --> 1:59:51.200 to be it's like going to like my first year 1:59:51.240 --> 1:59:57.520 of college working with the Jackson's and having everybody Theyah 1:59:57.880 --> 2:00:05.840 janet Re LaToya being in the presence of what's the 2:00:05.920 --> 2:00:08.800 props name? I got it? What was the name? Jo? Joe? 2:00:11.760 --> 2:00:16.400 Joe wasn't there. We didn't allow Joe to be. Michael 2:00:16.520 --> 2:00:25.000 was like, he's a meaning. That's Michael, Michael. He's a 2:00:25.160 --> 2:00:30.800 meaning to take his calls exactly like Michael would say that. 2:00:30.960 --> 2:00:34.960 I was like, why father, Yeah, he's a meaning. He's 2:00:35.000 --> 2:00:39.000 a meaning. I know what he wants. I know exactly 2:00:39.080 --> 2:00:44.240 what he wants. Michael used to correct bel. He'd be like, no, 2:00:44.440 --> 2:00:47.200 don't take that call. The only person can call me 2:00:47.640 --> 2:00:52.080 is mother Catherine. Holy shit, his mother. Oh no, I 2:00:52.120 --> 2:00:53.720 got to ask you. I just found this record today. 2:00:53.720 --> 2:00:58.600 I want to see if you know this record. Yeah, no, 2:00:59.440 --> 2:01:01.040 I've never seen this. I don't know if this is 2:01:01.120 --> 2:01:05.160 someone produced this. Have you ever seen this record? Yes, 2:01:05.920 --> 2:01:09.640 I've seen this record before one day and this is 2:01:10.160 --> 2:01:15.440 what are you thinking? It's Michael Jackson that really didn't 2:01:15.520 --> 2:01:22.680 go anywhere back in the days. But but yeah, I've 2:01:22.760 --> 2:01:25.880 never seen and I've seen that record before and I've 2:01:25.960 --> 2:01:30.200 heard that record, but it really never did anything. I'm 2:01:30.240 --> 2:01:31.920 reading the Dragon, I'm like, I've never heard none of 2:01:31.960 --> 2:01:41.360 these records. But what the is going on here? It 2:01:41.480 --> 2:01:49.240 was that he did on that was before Off the 2:01:49.320 --> 2:01:53.680 Wall Wow, right before it, I think right before it 2:01:54.360 --> 2:01:56.880 look at the you you got to cut it was 2:01:57.120 --> 2:02:03.080 it was yeah, Wow, before I did that. That's when 2:02:03.600 --> 2:02:10.680 they were testing his solo career, the Jackson five. Right 2:02:10.800 --> 2:02:15.200 after Jackson Jackson five. This is a secret Michael album 2:02:15.200 --> 2:02:16.840 and no one knows about it. I mean no, it 2:02:17.000 --> 2:02:22.400 was you know how how you say they didn't want 2:02:22.680 --> 2:02:26.120 people to know that record? Oh wow? You know, because 2:02:26.200 --> 2:02:28.120 when Off the Wall came. You know, it's like when 2:02:28.120 --> 2:02:30.320 you're trying to put out something really taking artists to 2:02:30.360 --> 2:02:34.640 the next level. It's almost like when when L. A. 2:02:34.760 --> 2:02:37.240 Reed put out Usher's album and he put out the 2:02:37.320 --> 2:02:39.960 wrong single and he pulled it back and then put 2:02:40.000 --> 2:02:45.280 out Confessions. The same thing with you remind me No, yeah, 2:02:45.440 --> 2:02:48.680 Rusher Usher, I think no, you would understand more like 2:02:48.840 --> 2:02:52.040 the first Mob Deep album versus the understand My damn 2:02:53.200 --> 2:03:06.040 understand that was really und it. That was on track. 2:03:08.760 --> 2:03:13.560 That's larious, but okay, I'm gonna keep it going, like 2:03:14.360 --> 2:03:19.760 all right, ooh, this is a good one. Nineties or 2:03:19.840 --> 2:03:26.160 two thousands, R and B nineties, nineties right nineties babies made. 2:03:26.280 --> 2:03:29.760 Yeah, there was more baby making and music with substance. 2:03:31.280 --> 2:03:34.440 You got music with substance, like two thousands started getting 2:03:34.480 --> 2:03:39.440 into the plastic and the music that wasn't didn't have 2:03:39.560 --> 2:03:43.160 the stay in power. You can hear record in two 2:03:43.240 --> 2:03:46.960 thousand today you'd be like, damn, I forgot about that record. 2:03:48.080 --> 2:03:51.160 What you hear record in the nineties, it's like, yo, 2:03:51.440 --> 2:03:55.480 put that joint back on. That's the final And. 2:03:55.560 --> 2:03:57.720 It's kind of timeless because if a person didn't hear 2:03:57.760 --> 2:04:01.440 that record, they'll listen to that thing and that it's Yeah. 2:04:01.840 --> 2:04:05.080 Most music in two thousand was black and white, right. 2:04:05.560 --> 2:04:08.520 The music back in the nineties was colorful. Yeah, I agree, 2:04:08.680 --> 2:04:11.080 it had different colors to it. Like I agree with that, 2:04:11.520 --> 2:04:15.080 Like when when when Guy came out, it made it 2:04:15.240 --> 2:04:20.320 cool for dudes to wear gators again and put on colors, 2:04:20.400 --> 2:04:26.240 and you know, you wasn't being scrutinized when boys and 2:04:26.400 --> 2:04:31.360 men did those records. You know you felt great, you know, 2:04:31.600 --> 2:04:35.960 going to the club with your girl. These are records 2:04:36.000 --> 2:04:42.120 that stood the test of time and still bumping right now. Yep, 2:04:42.640 --> 2:04:47.960 even one twelve Features and Cream. You know, you remember 2:04:48.040 --> 2:04:50.120 the name of the song in the nineties. You don't 2:04:50.240 --> 2:04:54.920 remember what song you remember in two thousand besides you 2:04:55.680 --> 2:05:03.280 know me mean anybody? Yeah, huh what was that? That 2:05:04.440 --> 2:05:10.400 was ninety nine? Yeah, that was ninety nine that he 2:05:10.840 --> 2:05:17.840 just made it. So, Okay, there's a good one. S 2:05:18.120 --> 2:05:30.200 w V or Escape. Nothing against Escape, and not because 2:05:30.240 --> 2:05:37.960 I work with s WV. But I'm gonna please the fifth. Okay, 2:05:38.040 --> 2:05:41.560 we're drinking. I'm we're gonna drink. I'm drinking my wine 2:05:41.600 --> 2:05:43.920 over here. I had wine over here and wine over here. 2:05:43.920 --> 2:05:49.320 It was like this is this is this? Can I 2:05:49.400 --> 2:05:50.800 think this next one? Go ahead? Okay? 2:05:51.880 --> 2:05:58.720 Lauren Hill or Eric Abadu mm hmm, Lauryn Hill, Ladies 2:05:58.760 --> 2:06:01.840 and gentlemen, that was very easy for you. 2:06:02.160 --> 2:06:08.280 Yeah, it was because lawn Hill had They both have signatures. 2:06:09.080 --> 2:06:12.600 They both have signatures. I just think that lawn Hill 2:06:15.440 --> 2:06:18.880 had the big records. You know, she she had the 2:06:18.960 --> 2:06:22.560 records that made you it's like wow. And then she 2:06:22.720 --> 2:06:36.280 had the bounce records you know, no, no, yeah, she 2:06:36.400 --> 2:06:40.880 had those records, even though Erica Badu had the pumping records. 2:06:40.920 --> 2:06:44.480 But for me, I felt like she didn't have like 2:06:45.240 --> 2:06:50.000 like you could take h Lawn Hill to the clubs, 2:06:50.080 --> 2:06:54.280 to the picnic and to the wedding. Thank you Wait 2:06:54.360 --> 2:06:56.200 do you say that again? I'm sorry. You can take 2:06:57.600 --> 2:07:00.720 Lauryn Hill to the club, to the picnic and the wedding, 2:07:00.920 --> 2:07:04.960 right and the wedding, the wedding, Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, 2:07:05.000 --> 2:07:05.320 you're right. 2:07:05.920 --> 2:07:11.400 Yeah, but you could take Eric about dude there too, 2:07:11.680 --> 2:07:13.200 and you can take out of the bedroom. 2:07:13.560 --> 2:07:18.240 Yeah, and the instance in the incense. Yeah, let's be boy. 2:07:19.840 --> 2:07:28.280 She got her. Yeah, we love you can. We had 2:07:28.320 --> 2:07:31.720 her on. We looked. She blew it down. Man, she 2:07:31.840 --> 2:07:34.640 made it so all of us. She made you. We 2:07:35.280 --> 2:07:41.160 smell like good like yes, yes, and we've been by 2:07:41.720 --> 2:07:46.320 out ever since. But yes we've been. We were so yeah, 2:07:46.400 --> 2:07:50.520 so big up to Eric and Lauren Hill. Yeah, Lauren here. 2:07:50.600 --> 2:07:52.880 We definitely want to give Lauren Hill her flowers as 2:07:53.680 --> 2:07:54.520 so big them both up. 2:07:54.600 --> 2:07:56.800 Then. I think that was a great comparison. You want 2:07:56.800 --> 2:07:57.880 to go to the next one. Now this was you, 2:07:58.080 --> 2:07:59.440 This is actually okay, all right, hold on, let me 2:07:59.480 --> 2:08:08.440 look at it. Okay, all right, this relates to you too. Okay, 2:08:08.840 --> 2:08:12.000 that's crazy, that's just it's very true. I'm like one 2:08:12.040 --> 2:08:14.520 of the first people to work with both of Tammy 2:08:14.600 --> 2:08:22.640 Lucas or Kalise Wow. It would be Kalise Wow, you know, 2:08:22.760 --> 2:08:31.880 because she had Caalise is an artist. Tammy was the writer, 2:08:32.960 --> 2:08:36.400 that's what, and she had the background vocals of life. 2:08:37.640 --> 2:08:42.600 Caalise was just the artist and you know, she wrote 2:08:42.640 --> 2:08:45.040 some of us stuff. I don't know how much of 2:08:45.160 --> 2:08:50.560 it m but I felt like it would be Kalise 2:08:50.720 --> 2:08:54.160 because she was out there more. Tammy was the hidden 2:08:54.280 --> 2:08:58.360 jewel and still is like I don't notice, she doesn't 2:08:58.400 --> 2:09:02.400 notice to this day. Uh. We wanted to get her 2:09:02.480 --> 2:09:06.640 for my video. We couldn't find her like I'm Tammy. 2:09:06.760 --> 2:09:09.720 Yeah, we couldn't find her Like I mean, I was 2:09:10.080 --> 2:09:11.920 in our e I was probably just thinking about I 2:09:12.040 --> 2:09:14.040 was just coming up. It's my first hit, it's my 2:09:14.120 --> 2:09:18.120 first global hit. So I was probably like, couldn't get up, 2:09:18.120 --> 2:09:20.000 and it was just like we can't reach her, and 2:09:20.080 --> 2:09:22.640 then I just like probably get going. But it was 2:09:22.760 --> 2:09:25.760 always like something and what I heard is that she 2:09:25.840 --> 2:09:27.560 wanted to be a background. 2:09:27.840 --> 2:09:30.840 Yeah, she wanted to be in one front. Well, she 2:09:31.000 --> 2:09:33.240 did have a That's how Tammy Lucas and I met 2:09:33.440 --> 2:09:36.760 actually reached out to her because I loved her record. 2:09:37.640 --> 2:09:41.880 Her first single was like it was a club banger. 2:09:42.200 --> 2:09:44.840 Oh wow. And then we just started making records and 2:09:45.040 --> 2:09:48.560 you know, Tammy wrote Goodbye Love. Wow. I did not 2:09:48.680 --> 2:09:53.520 know that. Yeah, yeah, she wrote Goodbye Love. She wrote 2:09:53.560 --> 2:09:57.280 Joy for Michael Jackson and then we wound up giving 2:09:57.360 --> 2:10:02.840 it to h to uh Black Street. She also wrote 2:10:02.880 --> 2:10:10.120 Tonight's to Night for Black Streets. Tammy's is sick. Now, 2:10:10.160 --> 2:10:14.160 if you're talking about on the writing level, I would 2:10:14.160 --> 2:10:21.680 pick Timmy. Yeah, okay, this is so dope or follow MC. 2:10:25.040 --> 2:10:35.080 We're preparing, we're not trying to drink. But it's because 2:10:36.480 --> 2:10:39.360 you know, he's one of the one of the most 2:10:39.520 --> 2:10:45.080 educated rappers. You know, this is one comod got his 2:10:45.240 --> 2:10:51.040 master his degree. Like d is a book smart, Like 2:10:52.160 --> 2:10:55.800 he can tell you any and everything about anything. And 2:10:56.320 --> 2:10:58.360 that's why I worked with him because it was nothing 2:10:58.400 --> 2:11:03.080 that like he never said things. Twice I was he's 2:11:03.280 --> 2:11:07.960 real m C. We need over here. So him and 2:11:08.080 --> 2:11:13.920 Chuck Rock, yeah and Father Rock. I spoke to him 2:11:13.920 --> 2:11:17.600 for like two seconds. He's a party guy, don't. I 2:11:17.640 --> 2:11:22.000 wouldn't say he's educated like rapper right right? He brought 2:11:22.040 --> 2:11:25.720 you to the rolls skating wing, to the club, you know, 2:11:26.720 --> 2:11:30.720 to the picnic you know, but would bring you there. 2:11:31.200 --> 2:11:34.400 He was spending, was trying to spend, bring you to 2:11:34.480 --> 2:11:40.560 the hip hop parties and make you believe everything he said. Yeah, 2:11:41.280 --> 2:11:48.560 Aaron Harror, Timmy Gatling, that was awkward. Was it supposed 2:11:48.560 --> 2:11:52.760 to be Aaron Hall? R Kelly? Yeah, that's but it 2:11:52.800 --> 2:11:55.760 was supposed to be that these guys, right, it will 2:11:55.840 --> 2:12:01.920 be Aaron Hall. Yeah. Timmy Gatlin was a great writer, 2:12:02.200 --> 2:12:07.360 it still is. But Timmy wasn't like a singer to me. 2:12:07.960 --> 2:12:11.160 Timmy was like like me, you know, get in where 2:12:11.160 --> 2:12:15.520 you fit in, right and get out because when it 2:12:15.600 --> 2:12:20.280 comes to blowing, Arra Hall was singing the lights off 2:12:21.680 --> 2:12:22.080 back then. 2:12:22.600 --> 2:12:26.240 Okay, but let me ask you now, let me switch 2:12:26.320 --> 2:12:29.960 the conversation. Made the conversations Aaron Hall or Kelly? What 2:12:30.040 --> 2:12:31.360 do you think Kelly? 2:12:31.520 --> 2:12:35.800 All day? Kelly? It would be all Kelly because Kelly, 2:12:38.360 --> 2:12:41.280 first of all, you messing with a signature or Kelly 2:12:41.360 --> 2:12:45.040 doesn't sound like Arma Hall. Everybody keeps saying it and 2:12:45.160 --> 2:12:48.040 I'm just gonna give you the will. He never sounded 2:12:48.120 --> 2:12:50.960 like R Kelly, didn't sound like anybody. Yeah, he sounded 2:12:51.040 --> 2:12:54.680 like himself. He had one of the smoothest voices that 2:12:54.880 --> 2:12:59.480 will put you in the ring, the like Donnie Hathaway. 2:13:02.040 --> 2:13:05.560 That was his Like R Kelly created his signature like 2:13:05.800 --> 2:13:14.920 Donny Hathaway logic or pro tools logic. Do you know 2:13:14.960 --> 2:13:19.720 I'm the first logic user? Real? Yeah, very first. I 2:13:19.880 --> 2:13:23.920 used logic on our Tari Comodore. I did remember the time. 2:13:25.000 --> 2:13:29.800 On our Tari Comodore. It wasn't called logic. It was 2:13:29.920 --> 2:13:34.480 called notator, and then it went from notator to notator logic, 2:13:35.520 --> 2:13:38.160 and then they just took the notata out and called 2:13:38.200 --> 2:13:42.760 it logic. When it went to Macintosh. Before Apple, it 2:13:42.880 --> 2:13:46.960 was called Macintosh crazy. So you know that computer. All 2:13:47.000 --> 2:13:50.160 you've seen was this when you play tetric song and 2:13:50.280 --> 2:13:54.880 Michael Jackson joked, my damn computer. He made me buy 2:13:55.720 --> 2:14:02.200 multi He's like, is this saying does it work? What 2:14:02.400 --> 2:14:04.240 is no? First of all, what do you say? What 2:14:04.440 --> 2:14:08.080 is that? Because I had it on the laptop, He's like, 2:14:08.120 --> 2:14:11.280 what is that? I was like, that's when I make 2:14:11.360 --> 2:14:16.640 my music, he said, He said, I mean, is it good, 2:14:16.800 --> 2:14:21.720 Like how long you had it? Like I had it 2:14:22.040 --> 2:14:25.960 for some time now, you know. He said where should 2:14:25.960 --> 2:14:29.640 you buy it? Like? I bought it. My guys you know, 2:14:30.960 --> 2:14:34.240 cooked me up with it and I bought it. Can 2:14:34.280 --> 2:14:39.160 you buy more? Like I think we need more? I 2:14:39.280 --> 2:14:43.840 truly think so so that we'll never go down down 2:14:44.040 --> 2:14:50.400 just like this? Can you mean? Michael? He's like, normal, 2:14:51.000 --> 2:14:54.840 can you take take the model number and buy more, 2:14:55.440 --> 2:14:59.400 you know, in case so we never go down. It's like, okay, 2:15:00.360 --> 2:15:04.080 you know it is in the book where can I 2:15:04.120 --> 2:15:08.400 asked you? Did you just say Atari Atari? Commodore computer 2:15:08.560 --> 2:15:11.440 had their computer, they had had their own and logic 2:15:11.680 --> 2:15:18.520 was on there. Yeah, yeah, before everybody that's triple computer ship. 2:15:18.680 --> 2:15:25.000 Yeah yeah, definitely. It's like one point. Oh so the 2:15:25.160 --> 2:15:30.040 visual version before that, I think you hitting the block. 2:15:30.400 --> 2:15:33.880 I used to play that on my downtime kids. Oh 2:15:33.960 --> 2:15:39.960 my god, before analogue. It's like there was no sound 2:15:40.040 --> 2:15:42.920 coming out of it. You know. That was just the MIDI. 2:15:43.840 --> 2:15:46.680 That's why I was called Notata because it's just MIDI. 2:15:47.160 --> 2:15:50.040 And then I would use to MP. That's when I 2:15:50.440 --> 2:15:56.120 had MPs. I used to MP. It would basically I'll 2:15:56.120 --> 2:15:58.560 played my drum machine all of that stuff through it, 2:15:59.400 --> 2:16:01.560 and all my keyboards would be MIDTI. And I have 2:16:03.080 --> 2:16:05.800 a lot of producers would know this. It's called eat magic. 2:16:05.920 --> 2:16:09.440 It was the medi and I midty all my keyboards 2:16:09.640 --> 2:16:13.880 to the computer, which is basically MIDI is like sinking 2:16:14.000 --> 2:16:16.360 all the differ stuff together. But I'm also the first 2:16:16.440 --> 2:16:20.680 on pro tools as well. Oh shit, you know why? Well, 2:16:20.720 --> 2:16:24.920 for pro toos there was sound Tools, and sound Tools 2:16:25.000 --> 2:16:27.839 was only two tracks, and then it graduated to four tracks. 2:16:28.640 --> 2:16:33.240 And then that's when digit Design made it. You know, 2:16:33.440 --> 2:16:37.000 I was the first indorser. I was on I don't 2:16:37.040 --> 2:16:40.080 know if anybody ever seen the eight eight eights. That 2:16:40.240 --> 2:16:45.120 was the first interface, the very first, and uh I 2:16:45.160 --> 2:16:48.960 had an endorsement. I was the first endorsement with them. Wow. Yeah. 2:16:49.160 --> 2:16:55.360 So but between the two, I like Logic because Logic 2:16:55.800 --> 2:17:03.039 you can have custom key commands. Choose no custom key commands, 2:17:03.120 --> 2:17:07.320 so you gotta it's almost like slavery. You have to 2:17:07.879 --> 2:17:10.360 use their key commands. You have to do it their way, 2:17:10.600 --> 2:17:15.720 you know. I couldn't when when Logic had the custom 2:17:15.800 --> 2:17:25.400 key commands, I was like freedom, All right, clips are outcasts. God, 2:17:26.360 --> 2:17:35.280 let's start drinking drink. I'll drink to that one, let 2:17:35.320 --> 2:17:44.320 me say yes, congratulations to the nephews and yeah, but 2:17:45.480 --> 2:17:52.199 I have to say both of them problems. They they're amazing. 2:17:52.800 --> 2:17:57.160 I text push your tea and I text for real, uh, 2:17:59.040 --> 2:18:04.840 although I'm not from Yeah, I felt I felt like 2:18:05.720 --> 2:18:09.440 they win was my win as well, Like when I 2:18:09.560 --> 2:18:12.560 got to see like for real win and then the 2:18:12.600 --> 2:18:17.080 Clips win at the same night and Clips being Clips, 2:18:18.680 --> 2:18:21.240 they didn't compromise, they didn't like, you know what. 2:18:21.280 --> 2:18:24.400 I'm saying, Like, they didn't change. They was like, so 2:18:24.640 --> 2:18:27.160 I text person myself and I was just like. 2:18:27.200 --> 2:18:28.720 Yo, bro, I just want you to know that's my 2:18:28.879 --> 2:18:33.520 win too, Like I won that ship too, exactly, and 2:18:33.640 --> 2:18:35.320 I text for real the same ship, but in like 2:18:35.440 --> 2:18:37.520 in a different language because I didn't want to send 2:18:37.560 --> 2:18:39.520 them the same ext want to copy and paste, you. 2:18:39.520 --> 2:18:42.960 Know what I'm saying. So but I look and that 2:18:43.080 --> 2:18:46.080 ship was like that, you know, I want to pick 2:18:46.160 --> 2:18:47.560 them up. I want to big hip. 2:18:47.440 --> 2:18:50.800 Hop up and like and then we actually think of 2:18:50.959 --> 2:18:54.920 that like now, like you know, uh, we had Virgil, 2:18:55.240 --> 2:18:59.160 you know, we had Yay and we got fucking you 2:18:59.240 --> 2:19:03.440 know for real as the fucking fucking LVMH. I haven't 2:19:03.480 --> 2:19:06.480 got my my friends and family package. It's okay, it's okay, 2:19:06.760 --> 2:19:11.000 it's we need okay, I want everything. 2:19:11.520 --> 2:19:15.160 I buy everything myself money as well. When you think 2:19:15.160 --> 2:19:16.480 about what hip hop. 2:19:16.760 --> 2:19:18.520 When you think about that Biggie line, do you think 2:19:18.560 --> 2:19:22.200 that hip hop was making this wall and that ship 2:19:22.320 --> 2:19:22.800 is crazy? 2:19:22.920 --> 2:19:23.000 Bro? 2:19:23.440 --> 2:19:27.400 That's huge. That's that's a signature. Like that's a slog. 2:19:27.520 --> 2:19:30.680 That should be a a dog on billboard. It should 2:19:30.720 --> 2:19:35.160 be billboards like that's just stage everywhere, everywhere everything that 2:19:35.760 --> 2:19:39.440 make it on hip What hip Hop's fiftieth birthday? That 2:19:39.520 --> 2:19:43.680 should have been on every billboard. Yes, nobody put it 2:19:43.800 --> 2:19:44.960 up there. True. 2:19:45.160 --> 2:19:53.760 Damn, that's real. That's real, that's real. I still got goosebump. Yeah, 2:19:54.200 --> 2:19:58.840 we got, we got ready time you got more? N 2:19:58.920 --> 2:20:05.080 PC sixty, that's p m PC sixty. Straight producer question. 2:20:05.920 --> 2:20:09.120 That's a straight producer question. Yeah, definitely, this was for 2:20:09.200 --> 2:20:14.640 you man. Okay question Wait, okay, wait, damn okay, it's 2:20:14.640 --> 2:20:18.760 a car question. A right BMW M three or the 2:20:18.840 --> 2:20:19.440 bens g. 2:20:20.120 --> 2:20:25.640 T coop GT coop gt coop. Yeah, okay. New Jack 2:20:25.720 --> 2:20:29.520 City or King of New York Jack One, New Jack 2:20:29.600 --> 2:20:33.200 City or King of New York Jack City. You're in 2:20:33.320 --> 2:20:39.400 New Jack City, New Jack City for sure, super producer. 2:20:39.480 --> 2:20:45.160 Question here Rolling V since or Yamaha motif? What do 2:20:45.280 --> 2:20:48.080 you know? I have about how many? Babe? I got 2:20:48.120 --> 2:20:53.160 about five or six Rolling V since they discontinued. So 2:20:53.280 --> 2:20:55.160 I buy them all every time I see when I 2:20:55.280 --> 2:21:00.680 buy it because it's my sound, right, the sound on 2:21:00.800 --> 2:21:03.880 that that's what you see me playing every on stage 2:21:04.240 --> 2:21:08.880 if y'all had one. Here, I was at the radio station. 2:21:09.160 --> 2:21:12.920 We did a Q and a book signing and and 2:21:13.040 --> 2:21:15.560 we were doing questions and I would play the records 2:21:15.600 --> 2:21:19.400 and they were like, so I played remember the time 2:21:19.640 --> 2:21:23.120 on it? Right? It was like it sounds like the record. 2:21:23.200 --> 2:21:26.200 I said, yeah, this is, but that's when I did it. 2:21:26.440 --> 2:21:29.680 You re played it over for the play. Oh wow, 2:21:29.800 --> 2:21:32.760 that's fire, And right in front of everyone was like wow. 2:21:33.680 --> 2:21:37.440 They didn't understand, like, where's the music coming from in 2:21:37.600 --> 2:21:41.680 the mic? And I'm and it's coming out of the keyboard. 2:21:41.800 --> 2:21:46.320 It's like, so yeah, next time. However, every every beat 2:21:46.400 --> 2:21:50.120 that he mimicked, it sounds exactly like yeah, it's like 2:21:51.360 --> 2:21:54.920 a beat box when you did the records. You know, 2:21:55.240 --> 2:21:59.080 you know when you make these records. At least I 2:21:59.200 --> 2:22:02.280 know the music. A lot of my songs I don't 2:22:02.440 --> 2:22:04.680 because didn't Michael do that. Didn't He used to sound 2:22:04.720 --> 2:22:09.680 out records like melodies and stuff. Man. I remember We're 2:22:09.680 --> 2:22:13.840 in a room actually making a joint with a dog 2:22:14.400 --> 2:22:17.480 upright piano and him doing the beat box, and I 2:22:17.600 --> 2:22:21.120 was like, how am I gonna convince him? Like with 2:22:21.280 --> 2:22:27.960 a damn upright But he had imagination because he's like, 2:22:28.480 --> 2:22:33.640 no drum machines, no nothing. You take the piano and 2:22:33.720 --> 2:22:36.800 I have this idea. Check it out. It goes like this, 2:22:45.760 --> 2:22:49.960 you're telling me Michael had to beat box. No, no, no, 2:22:50.280 --> 2:22:55.440 He's be boxing that regularly. And I was like, what 2:22:55.560 --> 2:22:58.240 am I going to do to that? My mind went 2:22:58.280 --> 2:23:02.600 to James Brown. He was James Brown, so I went 2:23:09.879 --> 2:23:22.080 so put that she's just so and he's making this. 2:23:22.320 --> 2:23:28.160 We're making this on a dog on upright piano. It's 2:23:28.240 --> 2:23:32.320 like this dude's taking me through college right now, because 2:23:32.480 --> 2:23:35.880 I ain't never made no reight nothing, creating anything on 2:23:36.000 --> 2:23:40.160 an upright piano. You do that in church, you know. 2:23:41.640 --> 2:23:49.400 But that's the way he worked spoons and washed you know. Yo, 2:23:49.560 --> 2:23:54.480 he's straight from the old days. Like that's the way 2:23:54.520 --> 2:24:01.360 he makes music. Crazy. Look at we're almost done. Jugie 2:24:01.440 --> 2:24:09.680 Fresh or slick Rick. That's that's drinking. That's some drinking 2:24:11.560 --> 2:24:16.039 right now. He's like every D like every D make 2:24:16.240 --> 2:24:21.520 bully man. Yeah, y'all, y'all bullying me, man, that's a 2:24:22.040 --> 2:24:25.360 that's not a good one. Okay. So this is the 2:24:25.440 --> 2:24:29.920 last one. The thing about her which is not recogn 2:24:30.240 --> 2:24:35.280 slick Rick that you would like to say one. Those 2:24:35.320 --> 2:24:39.840 are my brothers man, and we started out, you know, 2:24:40.280 --> 2:24:43.360 back in high school. I can't put them against each other. 2:24:43.480 --> 2:24:49.560 That's like taking that's like putting you against and we 2:24:49.600 --> 2:24:52.880 don't want to do it exactly. Yeah I would. I'll 2:24:52.920 --> 2:24:56.200 be get it. Let's drink for them again. Yes, let's 2:24:59.240 --> 2:25:01.080 drink them the one more time. 2:25:01.280 --> 2:25:04.200 And all right, so this is the last one before 2:25:04.240 --> 2:25:06.640 we go back into the interview. I bet y'all know 2:25:06.760 --> 2:25:08.680 it is loyalty or respect. 2:25:12.560 --> 2:25:20.680 Wow. Okay, wow, No, I don't don't for because I'm 2:25:20.680 --> 2:25:25.520 gonna take a shot just for leaving it right now. Now. Yeah, yeah, 2:25:26.240 --> 2:25:28.280 we got we got a celebration shot for him right there. 2:25:28.320 --> 2:25:30.840 That's all right enough, you're holding it down. He held 2:25:30.879 --> 2:25:34.280 it down, man, that's right. You are holding up the 2:25:34.320 --> 2:25:38.800 family name. There it is it is. I am going 2:25:38.920 --> 2:25:45.080 to I'm going to say, because I spoke about corners 2:25:45.120 --> 2:25:57.040 and circles, so I would choose I would choose them both. Yeah, 2:25:58.480 --> 2:26:03.680 so quick job. My reason for picking them both, yes, 2:26:03.800 --> 2:26:07.800 please please, we need a good release. You can't buy 2:26:07.920 --> 2:26:13.760 loyalty and you can't buy respect, both of our goal. 2:26:15.760 --> 2:26:19.800 There's no cost. I don't see why anybody picks one. Yes, exactly, 2:26:20.080 --> 2:26:22.840 that's for me and him come up with. Really the 2:26:24.480 --> 2:26:26.879 respect great for loyalty, but I think they go hand 2:26:26.920 --> 2:26:30.600 in hand. They do. They do, because if you don't 2:26:30.640 --> 2:26:33.040 have the loyalty and the respect, then you ain't got 2:26:33.080 --> 2:26:38.120 a corner yep right, just for somebody who's going to 2:26:38.400 --> 2:26:42.520 do this to you and didn't break out right yep right. 2:26:43.280 --> 2:26:45.560 You don't want people like that. I had to get 2:26:45.640 --> 2:26:48.520 rid of them. Well, I had to get away from them. 2:26:48.840 --> 2:26:54.640 You know. It was kind of when you start entering 2:26:55.480 --> 2:27:00.080 your fifties, you don't want no headaches or stress. You 2:27:00.160 --> 2:27:04.359 don't want know nothing, because when you're getting your sixties, 2:27:05.800 --> 2:27:08.600 you might as well hang it up because you stressed 2:27:09.160 --> 2:27:15.080 like you're just done and I'm not done yet, you know, 2:27:15.480 --> 2:27:17.480 just like we know you well said you can be 2:27:17.680 --> 2:27:21.840 eight or eighty, you can still keep going. You keep going, 2:27:23.000 --> 2:27:25.200 just keep the stress out. And that's what Quincy said 2:27:25.240 --> 2:27:28.440 before he passed. He said, you know, what's the one 2:27:28.560 --> 2:27:33.720 thing that if you had to do it all over again, 2:27:33.959 --> 2:27:37.680 that you would stay away from him? He said, you 2:27:37.760 --> 2:27:40.240 know the headaches to stress. You know, let no one 2:27:40.320 --> 2:27:43.440 stress you. It's difficult now, you know, let no one 2:27:43.520 --> 2:27:48.959 spoil your joy. And that's the that's the key to life. 2:27:49.520 --> 2:27:54.119 We're bombarded, bombarded with stress right now. Yes by this too, 2:27:54.480 --> 2:27:58.560 you know, yeah, that's true. But our show is the freeivency. 2:27:59.120 --> 2:28:01.040 If the prophecy is is really we want to give 2:28:01.080 --> 2:28:03.920 your flowers. Man, We want you to know how much 2:28:04.240 --> 2:28:07.160 you mean to this game, how much like face to 2:28:07.200 --> 2:28:09.680 face man, the man you said it's better than the 2:28:09.760 --> 2:28:19.840 grand well on the wall. Let me I just tell you, man, 2:28:21.280 --> 2:28:24.920 like I A is like I know, I knew, but 2:28:25.120 --> 2:28:27.960 I didn't know how much you produced. 2:28:28.000 --> 2:28:30.280 I didn't know how much. I was like, holy ship, 2:28:30.400 --> 2:28:33.119 because I already knew it. But then when you're looking 2:28:33.160 --> 2:28:34.960 at them like there's no way, I'm like, I know 2:28:35.040 --> 2:28:38.920 everything about Teddy, but these other records are playing and 2:28:38.959 --> 2:28:41.560 I'm like, wait a minute. And that goes back to 2:28:41.680 --> 2:28:46.160 that that signature sound that's my gift that we yeah, 2:28:46.400 --> 2:28:54.600 I mean you you but and I just want to 2:28:54.879 --> 2:28:57.160 tell you, face to face, man, the man like man 2:28:57.360 --> 2:29:01.040 like you. You you gave so much to our culture, 2:29:01.080 --> 2:29:03.600 you gave so much to us our people. 2:29:03.720 --> 2:29:07.960 You're still giving and you're still giving, and we appreciate you. 2:29:08.160 --> 2:29:10.480 We love you. We want you to know that your 2:29:10.640 --> 2:29:16.160 legacy is cemented in Stone. I appreciate it. Man. We 2:29:16.400 --> 2:29:20.199 were like, no, no, dead serious like you know actually, 2:29:20.920 --> 2:29:22.920 and I'm gonna take a shot for you. You don't 2:29:26.920 --> 2:29:32.480 drink that one joint. Okay, okay, I'm starting to hear slurs, 2:29:32.840 --> 2:29:37.680 but all of our But now let's talk about the book, because. 2:29:38.680 --> 2:29:41.400 Because I'll tell you this, I'll tell you this about 2:29:41.480 --> 2:29:47.280 about two. You're a very private guy. You're a very 2:29:47.360 --> 2:29:47.959 private guy. 2:29:48.120 --> 2:29:52.160 Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, yes, indeed. I've been in the 2:29:52.240 --> 2:29:57.000 industry twenty years, damn there, and people. 2:29:58.320 --> 2:30:00.640 You're not a person that people talk about. What I 2:30:00.720 --> 2:30:04.120 mean by that is like the rumor section. You're not 2:30:04.280 --> 2:30:05.680 in the rumor section, and you're not. 2:30:05.879 --> 2:30:07.200 You stay out of you stay out of that. 2:30:07.400 --> 2:30:11.240 But then now you're dropping a book. Oh, the book 2:30:11.320 --> 2:30:16.040 is out the books, it's out right, So what makes 2:30:16.080 --> 2:30:19.600 you how do you navigate that, like, like, because you're 2:30:19.600 --> 2:30:21.360 a private I can tell you a private guy, right, 2:30:21.680 --> 2:30:24.240 how do you live a private. 2:30:23.959 --> 2:30:26.720 Life but then give a book to the world about 2:30:26.760 --> 2:30:30.560 your life? I just felt this time I had this 2:30:30.680 --> 2:30:35.280 book twelve years twelve years plus was thirteen okay, thirteen okay? Yeah? 2:30:35.640 --> 2:30:40.000 How open were you when you very you know, you 2:30:40.160 --> 2:30:44.040 definitely when you are reading everybody who read it, even 2:30:44.120 --> 2:30:47.800 now to like my kids, they were like, there's a 2:30:47.840 --> 2:30:50.119 lot of stuff I did not know in a good 2:30:50.160 --> 2:30:52.640 way or a bad way. Good like you know, but 2:30:53.160 --> 2:30:56.760 some bad Like there was some bad things like to 2:30:56.840 --> 2:30:59.720 me seeing my life before me and stuff like that 2:31:00.080 --> 2:31:03.160 that you will read about. I never wanted wanted to 2:31:03.200 --> 2:31:04.960 tell those stories. And then I say, you know what, 2:31:06.400 --> 2:31:09.119 I'm getting older now, you know, and I must tell 2:31:09.200 --> 2:31:14.600 my truth. And someone said to me, you better tell 2:31:14.640 --> 2:31:17.000 your truth and tell your story before they tell it 2:31:17.360 --> 2:31:21.119 for someone else. Somebody will tell your story. And I say, 2:31:21.200 --> 2:31:23.200 you know, I got to beat that. You know, we're 2:31:23.240 --> 2:31:26.200 coming with the TV film and it's even more than this. 2:31:26.680 --> 2:31:28.680 We come in with the rooftop film. Is we come 2:31:28.760 --> 2:31:32.240 with a few things that I think people will want 2:31:32.280 --> 2:31:34.800 to see. This is an old map some things you 2:31:34.959 --> 2:31:38.039 read in here don't follow it, and some things you're 2:31:38.080 --> 2:31:39.960 reading here you'll be like, oh, this is how he 2:31:40.080 --> 2:31:44.480 did that. I'm going to try that. And it's a tool, 2:31:44.680 --> 2:31:48.520 you know, it's a tool, and at the same time 2:31:48.600 --> 2:31:52.760 it's a collector's item. Because it's my first book. My 2:31:52.840 --> 2:31:56.040 next book will probably be a children's book. That's fire 2:31:56.959 --> 2:31:58.640 and the reason why I want to make a children's 2:31:58.640 --> 2:32:02.320 book because I always had this imaginary friend when I 2:32:02.440 --> 2:32:05.160 was young, and my parents used to argue and fight, 2:32:06.560 --> 2:32:08.600 and I say, you know what, this is my way 2:32:08.680 --> 2:32:10.960 to get away from it. And my imaginary friend was 2:32:11.000 --> 2:32:13.920 the music Man. So I'm writing The Music Man. It 2:32:14.040 --> 2:32:17.840 tells you more about the music that inspired me, and 2:32:17.959 --> 2:32:21.720 the tree of music that inspired me to create, how 2:32:21.800 --> 2:32:26.040 I created and what made me do it, and the 2:32:26.120 --> 2:32:30.119 how tos. So this is not the how to, it's 2:32:30.240 --> 2:32:34.240 just a world map and what did he do? What 2:32:34.400 --> 2:32:39.800 did he use? You know, more technical aspect. But the 2:32:39.920 --> 2:32:44.120 children book, the children book will show them this is 2:32:44.200 --> 2:32:47.760 what you do. It's almost like reading the manual. But 2:32:48.200 --> 2:32:50.120 I got two more questions, and let me say, I 2:32:50.200 --> 2:32:53.120 got two more questions, So it's almost like reading the 2:32:53.240 --> 2:32:58.040 Manual of life. How to start music or how to 2:32:58.160 --> 2:33:03.720 start creation. So I think it would be something specially. 2:33:03.720 --> 2:33:06.000 It would be music behind it, lots of music. But 2:33:06.120 --> 2:33:08.840 I love that kids music. Okay, So I have two 2:33:08.879 --> 2:33:12.240 more questions before I go back and as as jay 2:33:12.320 --> 2:33:16.720 Z or Nas, why did you do that? Went back 2:33:16.760 --> 2:33:20.000 into the quick time it's slim? Yeah, this is this 2:33:20.120 --> 2:33:24.360 is crazy. I went back into it. Oh, because well 2:33:28.320 --> 2:33:30.280 I'm gonna plead the fifth on that. So we got 2:33:30.360 --> 2:33:33.600 a drink now, Yeah, definitely felt like I wanted to 2:33:33.680 --> 2:33:37.800 drink anyway. Yeah, yeah, we know that. But okay, now 2:33:38.480 --> 2:33:39.959 let me tell you. Let me tell you out quick 2:33:40.040 --> 2:33:45.520 quick quick wick, no cat, no fun fact. Do you 2:33:45.680 --> 2:33:49.879 know when I was coming up in the studio. When 2:33:49.920 --> 2:33:51.760 I was coming up in the studio, I was at 2:33:51.800 --> 2:33:56.240 the studio called power Play, playing queens. Yes, that's exactly. Okay, 2:33:56.360 --> 2:33:57.880 guess what I made my first record. So I don't 2:33:57.879 --> 2:33:59.960 know where you're going. My alumni at okay, okay, okay, 2:34:00.240 --> 2:34:04.200 damn you. My alumni with Nas Nas was and I 2:34:04.680 --> 2:34:09.000 were at the same studio. He was rapping and starting 2:34:09.080 --> 2:34:14.000 his you know he wanted to do. I was in 2:34:14.080 --> 2:34:17.240 the studio working with kids at work, and I was 2:34:17.320 --> 2:34:22.879 working with Fred mcfalland and Alan George who made somebody 2:34:22.959 --> 2:34:26.160 Else's Guy, and those guys were teaching me about how 2:34:26.240 --> 2:34:31.360 to produce. Yeah. Wow, So that was you know, I 2:34:31.440 --> 2:34:35.200 can't go against Naves now with jay Z. Jay Z, 2:34:35.879 --> 2:34:38.080 you know, used to come to Virginia and jay Z 2:34:38.360 --> 2:34:44.800 was the connection to you know, signing Beanie Cigu and 2:34:44.840 --> 2:34:47.120 all those guys. But they came down to the studio 2:34:47.320 --> 2:34:52.440 to work with me because I heard Virginia, Virginia. I've 2:34:52.480 --> 2:34:54.840 ever heard this story that day was supposed to be 2:34:55.240 --> 2:35:00.720 signed to you and sid y'all need to be with me, 2:35:01.800 --> 2:35:04.000 not money joking. I don't know how it really came out, 2:35:04.080 --> 2:35:09.560 but I would I felt like, right now, oh no, 2:35:11.040 --> 2:35:15.000 But I wasn't. I wasn't ready for them. My thing 2:35:15.200 --> 2:35:16.920 was I was I was more into the R and B. 2:35:18.320 --> 2:35:23.120 But my my guys and my family from Philly, they 2:35:23.160 --> 2:35:26.200 were like, yo, they need to be with you, and 2:35:26.280 --> 2:35:28.640 I kind of sort of wish I would have signed 2:35:28.640 --> 2:35:32.440 at least one of them, you know, I think it 2:35:32.440 --> 2:35:35.040 would have been which one? Which one? You you were 2:35:35.440 --> 2:35:38.879 Freeway Freeway, Well I can see that and the reason 2:35:38.920 --> 2:35:41.640 why because Freeway was more like, you know, to me, 2:35:42.879 --> 2:35:46.880 it's more like Rex in effect, like I could have 2:35:46.920 --> 2:35:49.920 done some crazy for him, but I was educated too. 2:35:50.040 --> 2:35:53.720 He was sick when it came to like yo stories 2:35:53.760 --> 2:35:55.320 and different things like you if. 2:35:55.200 --> 2:35:58.560 You're related to Rex and effects. I could see Beings 2:35:58.959 --> 2:36:02.600 and Freeway like that. Yeah as that group, because being 2:36:02.920 --> 2:36:08.120 was more more like yo, being kicks science. It was 2:36:08.240 --> 2:36:09.760 more like I love. 2:36:11.120 --> 2:36:15.520 Yeah, I love being, like I really like like yeah, 2:36:15.600 --> 2:36:17.560 so I ain't gonna What I'm trying to say is 2:36:17.640 --> 2:36:19.840 like what you what you're saying is like if I 2:36:19.879 --> 2:36:22.560 would have seen them together with that, oh, that would 2:36:22.560 --> 2:36:25.000 have been crazy, but that would have been another creation 2:36:25.120 --> 2:36:30.000 of like so you property, did you have the property? 2:36:30.120 --> 2:36:32.720 Or just that was just me. It was everyone was 2:36:34.320 --> 2:36:39.600 my brothers, the Bias brothers and guns young guns. Yeah 2:36:40.160 --> 2:36:44.920 so so so when they brought him down, they all 2:36:45.040 --> 2:36:46.880 used to come down just to hang with me. And 2:36:47.720 --> 2:36:50.560 you know when they told free and them, yo, y'all 2:36:50.600 --> 2:36:52.920 going to see Teddy ally it was like yo, they 2:36:53.080 --> 2:36:56.440 was excited about it. But when Jay was there, it 2:36:56.560 --> 2:37:01.360 was like we see the guy like Michael Jackson of rap. 2:37:02.040 --> 2:37:04.600 You know what I'm saying, Like James did to see you. Yeah, 2:37:04.640 --> 2:37:07.760 he was we was working on you. Belong to the city. Oh, 2:37:12.400 --> 2:37:15.160 I'm in there making the beat. So wait, this is 2:37:15.240 --> 2:37:22.240 happened at that same time. That's crazy. He's gonna be mocking. 2:37:25.560 --> 2:37:30.560 I ain't see not one paper with the deal. I 2:37:30.720 --> 2:37:36.800 was like, Sanna jane't write nothing. He didn't write nothing. 2:37:37.080 --> 2:37:39.440 Everything was just from his head, right, because that's the 2:37:39.440 --> 2:37:44.960 way he wrote. Right. I'm like, Wow, that's history. So 2:37:45.080 --> 2:37:47.280 I got I got to work with the Michael Jackson 2:37:47.320 --> 2:37:52.600 of rap Damn big up? Or should I say to 2:37:52.680 --> 2:37:58.880 Frank Sinatra, Yeah, the Frank Sinatra Jackson. So if you 2:37:58.959 --> 2:38:07.400 want to put it, put in perspective, Frank Jackson, Frank Jackson. 2:38:09.920 --> 2:38:16.200 That's that's that's crazy. You call me Frank Jackson character. 2:38:18.040 --> 2:38:20.560 The only time I worked with jay Z I worked 2:38:20.840 --> 2:38:23.560 on the R. Kelly record. It's me R Kelly and 2:38:24.040 --> 2:38:28.400 me R Kelly, jay Z and Cameron. Wow, did I 2:38:28.440 --> 2:38:35.000 say this part of the interview? Man safe? It's real ship. 2:38:37.200 --> 2:38:41.760 Okay, So now I'm moving on. We write this book. 2:38:43.760 --> 2:38:45.600 This is the first time you're kind of like, you 2:38:45.680 --> 2:38:48.760 know what I mean? Everyone knows Teddy is a very 2:38:48.879 --> 2:38:52.680 protective person. He doesn't is there something in your mind 2:38:52.720 --> 2:38:55.640 that you say? Okay, I wrote this and now I 2:38:55.760 --> 2:38:58.440 have to like kind of like, you know, stand behind me. 2:38:58.600 --> 2:39:00.040 I have to kind of like stand behind it. I 2:39:00.080 --> 2:39:00.640 have to stand up. 2:39:00.680 --> 2:39:04.760 I stand by everything that's in this book here because 2:39:05.840 --> 2:39:13.280 it's literally, I would say, three and a half decades 2:39:13.360 --> 2:39:19.400 of my life, you know. And even like my son's mother, 2:39:20.400 --> 2:39:25.039 she said, you you owe this. This is the first book. 2:39:25.240 --> 2:39:29.280 I said, how you know I'm doing the second? She said, 2:39:29.360 --> 2:39:32.800 because you got you got a lot more than you 2:39:32.920 --> 2:39:36.600 need to talk about, Like you got a whole lot more. 2:39:36.840 --> 2:39:39.480 You know, you didn't even talk about what really happened 2:39:39.480 --> 2:39:42.280 in the business, what happened to you and different things. 2:39:42.320 --> 2:39:46.119 I said, it's not time for it. Do you think 2:39:46.160 --> 2:39:50.640 about the era? No, No, I'm talking about respect to her, 2:39:50.959 --> 2:39:54.800 But I'm talking about that's read part. You know things 2:39:54.840 --> 2:39:57.960 you just got a hold. You got volumes. Yeah, you 2:39:58.080 --> 2:40:03.880 got a hold. But my next thing is creating the 2:40:04.000 --> 2:40:09.480 New Jack Swing Symphony Tour and performance. And it's a 2:40:09.520 --> 2:40:14.400 whole symphony for I already bought my tickets. Everybody in tuxedos, 2:40:14.520 --> 2:40:17.840 we come in here. We're gonna use the Miami Symphony Orchestra, 2:40:18.800 --> 2:40:21.400 and I want to share my music that way. That's dope. 2:40:22.000 --> 2:40:24.960 And I think it'll be so flying. Then I have 2:40:25.120 --> 2:40:27.520 the G two point oh, the Guy to point Oh 2:40:28.280 --> 2:40:34.400 album coming this summer, and yeah, coming back out the 2:40:34.520 --> 2:40:38.680 new Guy, the New Guy. Yeah literally yeah. But you 2:40:39.040 --> 2:40:41.520 I wish, I wish, I wish I could have invited 2:40:42.040 --> 2:40:44.600 to the concert. I would, I would have been there first. 2:40:44.840 --> 2:40:51.280 We ended it with Franky Beverley. We are one. That's 2:40:51.360 --> 2:40:55.120 the singers I got. And these these are these are 2:40:55.560 --> 2:40:59.560 new people. Yeah, these you you know them. You don't 2:40:59.560 --> 2:41:02.360 know the new Guy. Yeah, these are new people. But 2:41:02.600 --> 2:41:05.680 you remember. So I just took some all star singers, 2:41:06.360 --> 2:41:08.680 you know how r L and all of them, they 2:41:08.720 --> 2:41:11.520 just put like a super group together. I just took 2:41:11.560 --> 2:41:14.800 some all star singers and created the Woontange Klan of singers. 2:41:14.959 --> 2:41:18.960 I like that ship. You just got me and I 2:41:19.080 --> 2:41:23.400 got my Frankie Beverly voice. I have my R. Kelly voice, 2:41:24.120 --> 2:41:27.040 and I have my Charlie Wilson, and then I have 2:41:27.240 --> 2:41:32.400 my El DeBarge. So that's that matchup right there. That's 2:41:32.480 --> 2:41:35.600 a mashup. When you hear the voices, you be like, 2:41:37.360 --> 2:41:39.680 how did he do it? Like I did a show 2:41:40.360 --> 2:41:44.920 in Boston and Ronnie de Vogue was there. He called 2:41:45.879 --> 2:41:48.960 he called my guy. He said, how did Teddy do that? 2:41:49.120 --> 2:41:53.720 How did he duplicate the voices of Black Street Guy 2:41:56.280 --> 2:41:59.680 and the guys? He said, he's an architect we respect. 2:42:01.720 --> 2:42:05.800 So he said, yo, is he going to be Is 2:42:05.840 --> 2:42:07.800 he going to take that on tour? And I say, ye, 2:42:07.800 --> 2:42:10.440 I'm gonna take it on tour. I want to take 2:42:10.440 --> 2:42:12.040 it as my purpose. I didn't want to do the 2:42:12.120 --> 2:42:15.840 same thing Babyfaced. It was go on tour with the 2:42:16.480 --> 2:42:19.360 all star singers and people not know who they are. 2:42:19.560 --> 2:42:21.640 So I just that's why I say, got two point oh. 2:42:21.879 --> 2:42:26.160 Not taking anything away from Guy because guys original here, 2:42:26.440 --> 2:42:31.480 you know. But I wanted to stay consistent and I 2:42:31.560 --> 2:42:33.960 didn't the Black Street thing. I didn't want to do that. 2:42:34.120 --> 2:42:36.959 The guys are still doing what they're doing, but Aaron 2:42:37.040 --> 2:42:39.840 and Damien, you know, they're not on the road, and 2:42:39.959 --> 2:42:42.480 we have to be consistent. I'm tired of my music 2:42:42.600 --> 2:42:46.160 just sitting dormant and people are not being able to 2:42:46.360 --> 2:42:50.640 enjoy enjoy it on stage, you know, So now I'm 2:42:50.720 --> 2:42:55.160 giving them that. People are walking away happy. You know, Dad, 2:42:55.320 --> 2:42:57.080 this is a great show. I didn't expect that. We 2:42:57.240 --> 2:43:03.200 just did this Zoolu Ball twenty thousand people headline, and 2:43:03.360 --> 2:43:05.760 people were amazed, like they didn't know what to expect 2:43:06.640 --> 2:43:09.680 until we gave them the songs, and it sounds like 2:43:09.879 --> 2:43:14.000 the music. It's like that. At least he gave us 2:43:15.120 --> 2:43:17.200 the record. He gave us the album, he gave us 2:43:17.320 --> 2:43:20.160 the picnic, he gave us the club records. You know. 2:43:20.360 --> 2:43:22.800 So that's my goal is just to take it on 2:43:22.920 --> 2:43:26.160 the road. We have a tour coming up, we have 2:43:26.280 --> 2:43:30.320 over twenty five days and I just want to enjoy 2:43:30.360 --> 2:43:32.960 the stage again. That's fine. 2:43:33.040 --> 2:43:35.480 So let me ask you with that being said, right, 2:43:36.959 --> 2:43:38.720 you know, I'm a solo artist and I'm part of 2:43:38.800 --> 2:43:42.280 a group of part of Pona Noriega, I'm part of 2:43:42.440 --> 2:43:49.760 Drinks Dream Champions is what we are doing. Are you 2:43:49.879 --> 2:43:52.720 more comfortable being solo? Are you more comfortable being in 2:43:52.800 --> 2:43:53.119 the group. 2:43:53.200 --> 2:43:57.440 I'm never solo. I'm not solo now. I'm a team player. 2:43:57.920 --> 2:44:01.560 I always have to come with a team me. I'm 2:44:01.640 --> 2:44:05.720 not gonna if you see me solo. I'm doing like 2:44:05.800 --> 2:44:08.720 an E d M album with Talkbox and you know, 2:44:08.959 --> 2:44:12.800 Voke quarters and singing records that involved. I don't know. 2:44:16.360 --> 2:44:24.960 Music is like music is my put me on that. 2:44:30.080 --> 2:44:34.640 But but I want to make music that that people 2:44:34.720 --> 2:44:37.600 can really enjoy the music because most people like before 2:44:37.720 --> 2:44:41.280 hearing lyrics, people like to beat. So that's why I 2:44:41.320 --> 2:44:43.320 want to give them with the with the vol quoder 2:44:43.520 --> 2:44:46.360 talk box, just kind of taking you there and and 2:44:46.800 --> 2:44:50.160 and it's like it would be like ecstasy to them. 2:44:50.560 --> 2:44:53.879 You know, they just enjoying the music and just going hard. 2:44:54.000 --> 2:44:56.800 And I just want to be able to do with 2:44:56.920 --> 2:45:00.840 these DJs, be doing making like I was knowledge, just 2:45:00.879 --> 2:45:02.560 step in the room with a bunch of lights and 2:45:02.600 --> 2:45:06.520 ship and you're just playing. Boy. Boris he's a producer 2:45:06.600 --> 2:45:09.240 right here. Boris rolling the blunts over here. Oh yeah, 2:45:09.440 --> 2:45:11.520 he was like, is he DJing? He's like, because that's 2:45:11.560 --> 2:45:13.760 what they do. Now they got to go out and 2:45:13.800 --> 2:45:16.640 but I used to. I used to. But my thing 2:45:16.800 --> 2:45:20.560 is coming with the talk box. There's nobody coming like 2:45:20.640 --> 2:45:24.440 that since that punk, right and now that they retired, 2:45:24.600 --> 2:45:28.040 I said, yo, let me create something and just see 2:45:28.080 --> 2:45:30.080 what people feel about it. That's not the same as 2:45:30.160 --> 2:45:33.760 Roger Troutman was doing. Yeah, that's what I say. I 2:45:33.920 --> 2:45:37.280 was pasted that touch. You know. Roger actually came to 2:45:37.400 --> 2:45:41.119 my studio and one thing he said to me, he said, man, 2:45:41.280 --> 2:45:44.400 you better not stop. He invented that, right? No, No, 2:45:44.600 --> 2:45:47.240 who did in that? It was invented between I feel 2:45:47.320 --> 2:45:51.920 like it's between him, but I think it's Peter Frampton. Okay, yeah, 2:45:52.600 --> 2:45:55.240 because he played it with the guitar. Now Roger played 2:45:55.280 --> 2:45:57.520 with the guitar, but he also played with the people. 2:45:57.879 --> 2:46:00.600 It was the idea of using the tube, ye, right, okay, 2:46:00.840 --> 2:46:04.480 And that's what I do now. And I've got a 2:46:04.560 --> 2:46:06.800 lot of signature records out there where they know it's 2:46:06.840 --> 2:46:08.760 me because a lot of a lot of people were playing. 2:46:09.040 --> 2:46:12.240 They're playing the talk box, but you know it's it's 2:46:12.720 --> 2:46:15.600 not the sound that I have. Would you consider that analog? 2:46:16.040 --> 2:46:20.280 That's very analog? No, no, analog. I just lost my 2:46:20.360 --> 2:46:33.680 train of thought. No, that's not auto tune analog. It's before. 2:46:35.160 --> 2:46:36.880 You don't think it would No, No, I know it's before, 2:46:36.920 --> 2:46:39.440 But I'm saying, would you consider that? Could that be 2:46:39.480 --> 2:46:43.760 a description for it auto rather than I wouldn't even 2:46:43.800 --> 2:46:53.840 say that. That's disrespectful. Okay, I know it's straight the tube, 2:46:53.879 --> 2:46:57.880 it's the talk box, the auto tune. You know, I 2:46:58.000 --> 2:47:01.640 started with the auto tune before a Ta Pain and 2:47:01.800 --> 2:47:06.000 before Ridey Jerkins. You can look at my testimony when 2:47:06.040 --> 2:47:08.760 it first came out. They bought it to me to 2:47:08.879 --> 2:47:13.640 test beta tests, and I was like, I don't want that. 2:47:14.160 --> 2:47:16.680 I was like, but I used it because I felt 2:47:16.760 --> 2:47:19.320 like I didn't have to use it like how they're 2:47:19.400 --> 2:47:22.600 using it. I used it just to keep like it 2:47:22.760 --> 2:47:25.800 was just too auto tune, yes, like not too like 2:47:26.160 --> 2:47:31.560 like that, just but it was the same thing. It's 2:47:31.640 --> 2:47:33.800 just you just turn it up more and you got 2:47:34.080 --> 2:47:37.400 it sounds like machine in different ways. Yes, And you 2:47:37.520 --> 2:47:39.400 remember one of the records that you used to and 2:47:39.760 --> 2:47:44.160 I'll do the Black Street records. The second one. It 2:47:44.360 --> 2:47:49.680 was to keep the singers on key, not me, because 2:47:49.680 --> 2:47:52.520 I didn't my my thing wasn't really singing. I was 2:47:52.640 --> 2:47:54.640 just like rap saying, you know, so I didn't have 2:47:54.720 --> 2:47:58.840 to stay on key. I just no, Deity was not 2:47:59.000 --> 2:48:06.040 on key. I was off key. But people they received it, 2:48:06.400 --> 2:48:10.320 you know. I bought the point across and that made 2:48:10.360 --> 2:48:12.560 me just say, dak, I could do more because it's 2:48:12.560 --> 2:48:16.640 almost like Johnny Guitar Watson, it was real mother for 2:48:16.800 --> 2:48:21.280 you that wasn't on key. So I mothered myself after them. 2:48:22.200 --> 2:48:28.960 George Clinton definitely not definitely not on key, but no, no, 2:48:30.000 --> 2:48:34.520 all right, then you had, uh the Boskag. I mean 2:48:34.520 --> 2:48:36.760 it's not a bad thing. No, it's a great thing 2:48:36.879 --> 2:48:43.560 because yeah, Bosskag, you know what that is. You got 2:48:43.680 --> 2:48:47.320 to see that black boy over there running scared. This 2:48:47.440 --> 2:48:51.920 is on in the bottle. I thought that was on key, No, 2:48:52.080 --> 2:48:56.120 that was not he. I was in it out. I 2:48:56.240 --> 2:49:01.800 was in and out. You know. I think, Okay, let's 2:49:01.840 --> 2:49:05.640 go to t Pain. Incredible singing. Did y'all know that? Absolutely? Yeah? Okay, 2:49:06.160 --> 2:49:10.039 so and incredible rapper as well. T Pain can sing 2:49:10.200 --> 2:49:14.800 off key and people will still receive it. Yep. He's 2:49:14.879 --> 2:49:18.960 just never tried it. M he's never tried it. But 2:49:19.040 --> 2:49:22.400 I guarantee you because he knows his notes. I know 2:49:22.560 --> 2:49:24.640 my notes. How I learned how to sing is because 2:49:24.680 --> 2:49:27.440 I play keys. So if you know what you're playing 2:49:27.520 --> 2:49:30.240 on here and I play by ear. If you got 2:49:30.360 --> 2:49:32.760 to ear for keys, you gotta ear for a voice. 2:49:33.879 --> 2:49:36.440 You just gotta have a voice. Oh you got to 2:49:36.480 --> 2:49:38.920 have a sound and you could play your voice. Is 2:49:38.959 --> 2:49:43.119 what happens in that mode, which gives you a lot 2:49:43.160 --> 2:49:46.160 of freedom in your voice, like to do things, trust 2:49:46.280 --> 2:49:52.160 be created. I felt like when I played when I 2:49:52.200 --> 2:49:55.920 played vot quarters. Now it's two different things. Voe quarterer. 2:49:56.000 --> 2:49:58.440 You can play chords, and that's how you hear, like 2:49:59.240 --> 2:50:01.760 all of the background on Black Street and on it, 2:50:01.959 --> 2:50:06.680 that's full quarter. All of those harmonies that's folk, that's 2:50:06.760 --> 2:50:10.160 full quarter. But the talkbox is single. But you can 2:50:10.200 --> 2:50:12.840 also played chords with the talkbox. Kind of feels a 2:50:12.879 --> 2:50:16.840 little distorted because it's a mono, but it's better to 2:50:16.920 --> 2:50:21.000 play it as a solo. You you get the sound 2:50:21.040 --> 2:50:21.320 out of it. 2:50:24.840 --> 2:50:28.760 So let me let me ask you, right, Because we 2:50:28.879 --> 2:50:31.039 had nas on hair and I asked nods. I said, 2:50:31.680 --> 2:50:33.240 is there anybody that ever told you no? 2:50:34.080 --> 2:50:34.200 Right? 2:50:35.120 --> 2:50:38.240 And I feel like you're You're a person that I 2:50:38.280 --> 2:50:40.280 don't think anyone can tell no to it. 2:50:43.440 --> 2:50:52.920 You're lying. I've been told no? Okay have you if 2:50:53.000 --> 2:50:56.760 you were like sure? Who who has told you no? 2:50:56.959 --> 2:50:58.800 I don't think no one can tell you? Who told 2:50:58.840 --> 2:51:01.840 me I'm gonna put on Front Street too? Should I 2:51:01.879 --> 2:51:09.720 take a shot? Versa shot? Shot? Mean? Yes, I think 2:51:09.760 --> 2:51:12.280 I'm smooth enough to say this, okay, go ahead. Barry 2:51:12.320 --> 2:51:17.800 Wise told me no, very Wise. But that's an executive. Yeah, 2:51:18.080 --> 2:51:21.400 that's the people to tell you no. Oh my damn. 2:51:21.680 --> 2:51:26.000 Those are the people to tell you. Man. It's like 2:51:26.160 --> 2:51:30.360 you you disappointed, like I thought I had something. He said, no, 2:51:30.480 --> 2:51:35.600 the guy right, I wasn't ready I put them on 2:51:35.680 --> 2:51:38.040 Front Street. I wasn't just saying a lot of record 2:51:38.080 --> 2:51:42.360 company executives don't have the air, okay, I mean they 2:51:42.520 --> 2:51:45.160 just got the business sense. Has there ever been an 2:51:45.280 --> 2:51:50.720 artist who told you know, no, no, not that, not 2:51:50.840 --> 2:51:55.600 that I know, because I mean mostly just when they 2:51:55.680 --> 2:51:58.800 get in the room, like who would tell for well no, 2:51:59.879 --> 2:52:05.840 I kind of told him no one time. I remember, 2:52:10.000 --> 2:52:19.760 you did learn, but let's tell you off. 2:52:21.520 --> 2:52:24.120 But let me actually, so when I recognized that now, 2:52:24.160 --> 2:52:27.640 I said that Prince told him no because he didn't 2:52:27.680 --> 2:52:28.840 own his own publishing. 2:52:29.000 --> 2:52:29.120 Right. 2:52:29.879 --> 2:52:32.360 Has anybody ever said, because and you just you just 2:52:32.560 --> 2:52:35.199 you just said to us, out of twenty three years, 2:52:35.440 --> 2:52:37.080 you just now own your own publishing. 2:52:37.280 --> 2:52:43.720 Has there anybody that ever thirty five years? Thirty five years? Damn, damn, 2:52:44.280 --> 2:52:46.720 I put the twist of a version, you know, thirty 2:52:46.760 --> 2:52:50.320 five years. So that goes with publishing and with owning 2:52:50.440 --> 2:52:52.959 of the masters? Yeah, well yeah, I got I got 2:52:53.560 --> 2:52:57.120 seven other masters in my vault right now. Masters. And 2:52:57.200 --> 2:53:00.280 guess who gave it to me? It was actually at 2:53:00.360 --> 2:53:02.680 the studio, the first studio I did guy, I had 2:53:02.720 --> 2:53:09.040 about six to seven hundred twenty four tracks, and I 2:53:09.200 --> 2:53:14.440 have to give flowers to two people. And that's chub Rock, 2:53:14.920 --> 2:53:18.680 who gave me a lot of mine. Man ear, he 2:53:18.760 --> 2:53:21.920 gave me a lot of my plaques and stuff back 2:53:23.120 --> 2:53:30.400 and Salammy, Salam, bigger salam. He gave me my dog 2:53:30.520 --> 2:53:36.880 on masters, all seven hundred and something. I seen this stuff, man, 2:53:36.920 --> 2:53:38.520 I couldn't even get it in the I thought I 2:53:38.560 --> 2:53:40.640 could get a small story, she said. He said, no, 2:53:40.760 --> 2:53:46.640 you're gonna need cause your tapes was most of the studio. Wow. Okay, 2:53:47.680 --> 2:53:51.640 hold on, hold on, hold on chub Rock and Salammy. No, 2:53:51.920 --> 2:53:54.920 this is that Chubb gave me like my plaques, So 2:53:55.040 --> 2:53:56.840 I gave your pla So I guess what he's trying 2:53:56.840 --> 2:53:59.560 to say is why are they holding them right? No? 2:53:59.800 --> 2:54:04.760 They well, you know, Slim bought the studio like he 2:54:04.920 --> 2:54:08.280 bought the studio that I did. The guy out bought 2:54:08.320 --> 2:54:11.800 the automatically the masters. No, they were there. It was 2:54:11.879 --> 2:54:15.080 just just trying to return them back to the original. Wow, 2:54:15.920 --> 2:54:20.640 and I was upstanding, so fuck you know, Slam said 2:54:20.720 --> 2:54:23.360 to me. He said, first of all, I got something 2:54:23.360 --> 2:54:26.160 special to tell you, but I also got this to 2:54:26.280 --> 2:54:29.920 tell you you remember the little boy that was actually 2:54:31.280 --> 2:54:33.600 in the studio while he was making Groove Me and 2:54:34.000 --> 2:54:36.120 I like and all of those records, and it was 2:54:36.200 --> 2:54:39.160 the little kid. And you remember my father used to 2:54:39.200 --> 2:54:42.520 bring me to the studio. I said, you was that 2:54:42.720 --> 2:54:43.240 little kid? 2:54:44.080 --> 2:54:44.120 No? 2:54:44.360 --> 2:54:47.480 That that that is the fuck? This slom with the 2:54:47.600 --> 2:54:50.440 little kid that was in the studio while I was 2:54:50.560 --> 2:54:54.880 making I like in all those records at seventeen, eighteen, 2:54:55.040 --> 2:54:58.240 nineteen years old, and now he became a super producer. 2:54:58.600 --> 2:55:04.880 Straight to that, trying to give you your flowers, Salon Reamy. 2:55:05.920 --> 2:55:10.480 He should be on here, no family, Yeah, he should 2:55:10.480 --> 2:55:12.760 be on here. You're right. He got so much man, 2:55:12.879 --> 2:55:17.360 so much history. Man, he's would be I just feel 2:55:17.400 --> 2:55:19.600 so honded to be a part of it, you know, 2:55:20.440 --> 2:55:26.400 because he goes back, Yeah, he go back. That is 2:55:26.440 --> 2:55:29.320 so dope. You want to read this question in case 2:55:29.360 --> 2:55:31.600 they sentenced person. I don't know. It seems like sonny, 2:55:33.560 --> 2:55:35.640 I don't know. You want me to read it? Just 2:55:35.760 --> 2:55:37.640 I just don't want it. I just feel like I 2:55:37.680 --> 2:55:41.520 feel like they they attacked me. You're not even gonna 2:55:41.520 --> 2:55:46.800 correct anything. Is it true that he did the winning 2:55:46.840 --> 2:55:53.200 Houston step by step record? Yeah? He did it. Yes, 2:55:53.600 --> 2:55:57.840 I did the remix because they couldn't read it. For 2:55:57.959 --> 2:56:00.920 some reason, it became the RCT it. Oh, it became 2:56:01.040 --> 2:56:04.080 the main record. You know. Of course people get say, 2:56:04.440 --> 2:56:06.320 you get a certain amount to do a song, and 2:56:06.400 --> 2:56:08.040 then you get certain amount to do a remix. They 2:56:08.120 --> 2:56:09.760 called the remix, so they have to pay. 2:56:10.440 --> 2:56:10.720 And they. 2:56:12.760 --> 2:56:15.480 That way, they wound up turning the record, the remix, 2:56:15.600 --> 2:56:23.520 the record. It's amazing, It's okay, it's okay, I take it. 2:56:24.680 --> 2:56:35.440 I don't like know these questions, worry. This is amazing 2:56:36.080 --> 2:56:40.240 as an artist. Ever made you cry in the studio? What? Yeah? No, 2:56:40.360 --> 2:56:44.920 I made artists cry? Okay, let's do that. Let's follow up? 2:56:45.000 --> 2:56:50.400 And who did you make cry? Follow up? And say 2:56:50.400 --> 2:56:59.200 it in the Michael Jackson voice? Okay, scary spice, that's 2:56:59.200 --> 2:57:07.119 not the Michael jack the voices scary girls. Yes, okay, 2:57:07.120 --> 2:57:11.000 what's happening? I didn't mean you. But when you kind 2:57:11.000 --> 2:57:13.240 of tell all this, you know you ain't singing it right? 2:57:13.400 --> 2:57:20.600 You guys sing you know what you say? She's like, 2:57:21.080 --> 2:57:24.000 can you give me a minute to cry? I was like, whoa? 2:57:25.720 --> 2:57:28.160 I didn't know what to say, you know, like she 2:57:28.360 --> 2:57:33.720 was the first and then the second second was a 2:57:33.840 --> 2:57:38.640 K pop artist. Her name was Tiffany Is Tiffany Tiffany 2:57:38.800 --> 2:57:43.880 from Yeah from Korea Girls Girls Generation. It was no, no, 2:57:44.800 --> 2:57:47.680 let me tell you something. I love Korea because I 2:57:47.800 --> 2:57:50.040 love them for that. And then do you know about 2:57:50.040 --> 2:57:57.360 the birthdays? Like their birthday is different than ours? Like 2:57:58.160 --> 2:58:01.840 the birthdays you won when you come up? I was like, 2:58:02.000 --> 2:58:05.800 what you won when you come out of the womb. 2:58:05.920 --> 2:58:08.040 That makes sense to me. I just told my son that. 2:58:08.440 --> 2:58:12.240 I said, Yo, you really chill. Yeah right, because when 2:58:12.280 --> 2:58:15.280 you came out, you was one right, I got to 2:58:15.520 --> 2:58:21.240 my whole family. No Korea and then another thing. So 2:58:21.600 --> 2:58:25.520 when they go to school, they go to school. They 2:58:25.600 --> 2:58:28.960 go to school from eight to eight, yeah, and they 2:58:29.040 --> 2:58:33.400 learn algebra, they learn everything, and then rocket science some 2:58:33.640 --> 2:58:35.960 of them. That's why they got so many K pop 2:58:36.080 --> 2:58:38.400 artists because most of them don't want to be in 2:58:38.480 --> 2:58:43.360 school all those hours, so they chose music. That's their career. 2:58:43.640 --> 2:58:48.840 That's yeah, that's the other curriculum is music, and that's 2:58:48.920 --> 2:58:51.200 how they became K pop artists. Because we don't want 2:58:51.240 --> 2:58:53.040 to go to school all day. Because some of them 2:58:53.120 --> 2:58:56.879 go to school all day and then it's mandatory. At nineteen, 2:58:56.959 --> 2:59:04.480 they got to go to the army mandatory. No, no, 2:59:05.360 --> 2:59:07.680 they don't take no fin answer, you don't go. You're 2:59:07.720 --> 2:59:14.920 going to jail American something. We ain't doing that ship. Yeah, 2:59:17.120 --> 2:59:21.280 what's the other man in the question. Okay, Little Kim 2:59:21.320 --> 2:59:28.280 and Foxy Brown? Damn you had a Foxy Brown record? 2:59:28.800 --> 2:59:31.520 That record is ill too, man, Thank you. I did 2:59:31.560 --> 2:59:35.520 that record for a dollar, you know why? But blackets 2:59:35.560 --> 2:59:38.600 on the record as well. Yeah, I mean no, I 2:59:38.720 --> 2:59:41.480 did it for a dollar, right, because my fee would 2:59:41.520 --> 2:59:44.440 have been you know, but I did it for a dollar. 2:59:45.040 --> 2:59:46.280 And the reason why I did it for a dollar 2:59:46.440 --> 2:59:51.720 slang like did it for a dollar? That? Like you 2:59:51.920 --> 2:59:54.480 mean like you really did it for a dollar? Dollar? 2:59:55.160 --> 3:00:00.400 One dollar? You got going on? Body? You got you speed? 3:00:03.400 --> 3:00:05.200 You did it for a dollar. I did not do. 3:00:06.000 --> 3:00:10.199 I'm trying to figure this out, so call I believe 3:00:10.520 --> 3:00:14.680 they didn't believe it theirselves. They were like, uh when 3:00:14.720 --> 3:00:17.400 they came down, they thought they get smoothed me with 3:00:17.720 --> 3:00:20.440 all of Louis vuittons. You remember they used to rustle 3:00:21.080 --> 3:00:26.280 and that's I said, uh, his wife, his ex wife, 3:00:27.320 --> 3:00:31.199 come on, come, so you know they would Louis buiton people. 3:00:31.640 --> 3:00:37.480 They give you with Louis Vuitton right, And my whole 3:00:37.560 --> 3:00:41.080 mindset wasn't about that. I thought about the trial called 3:00:41.160 --> 3:00:45.600 Quests the beef. The beef. Leo was in my studio. 3:00:47.600 --> 3:00:50.280 We had a beef. Forgot that well. It was like, 3:00:50.520 --> 3:00:53.720 you know, I was trying. I was trying to, like, 3:00:54.600 --> 3:00:58.440 you know, let's win them over, give them the record 3:00:58.560 --> 3:01:02.720 for a dollar and a favor because jam, but it 3:01:02.800 --> 3:01:07.120 was death jam. So they came down and Russell was 3:01:07.240 --> 3:01:09.520 trying to you know, like, yeah, man, it was a joking. 3:01:09.560 --> 3:01:12.240 Everybody's joking, yell, and we hope you get him for like, 3:01:12.720 --> 3:01:14.680 I hope you don't charge us arm and the leg 3:01:14.879 --> 3:01:20.240 And they were so worried they never came to Virginia. 3:01:21.600 --> 3:01:26.040 When they came to Virginia and Russell, they sidebar with 3:01:26.160 --> 3:01:29.320 me and He's like, yo, so what you gonna hit 3:01:29.400 --> 3:01:32.160 us in the head for? That's what you're talking about? 3:01:33.200 --> 3:01:36.400 He said, I know your price? Man? I said, what 3:01:36.440 --> 3:01:41.080 are you talking about? He said, how much for the record? Tee? 3:01:44.600 --> 3:01:46.440 I said, you won't believe what I'm going to charge you? 3:01:47.840 --> 3:01:53.720 He said, is he joking a way? He asked Lee 3:01:53.920 --> 3:01:56.680 or so? Leo's like, come on, man, He's tell us, 3:01:56.720 --> 3:02:03.920 what do you want for the record. I was like, okay, Russell, 3:02:04.000 --> 3:02:06.360 go in your pocket. You carry cash. He said, I 3:02:06.400 --> 3:02:08.160 don't carry a lot of cash. I said, pull out 3:02:08.200 --> 3:02:12.160 what you have in your pocket. He pulled out Somebodey 3:02:12.200 --> 3:02:15.039 and he happened to have a dollar and I said, 3:02:15.480 --> 3:02:20.200 spread it out like you in strip club. Spread it out, 3:02:20.320 --> 3:02:25.680 and I said, okay. He's like. They looked at each 3:02:25.720 --> 3:02:32.680 other like this nigga's joking. He said, you're joking right now. 3:02:32.800 --> 3:02:37.240 I was like, nah, it's not a joke. Just consider 3:02:37.320 --> 3:02:43.000 that a favor. Wow, I want my favor. So those two, 3:02:43.560 --> 3:02:45.920 I'm saying, anybody here, don't drink champ and I'm gonna 3:02:45.959 --> 3:02:50.160 say every interview, y'all still owe me my favor. Jesus, 3:02:51.480 --> 3:02:57.840 I ain't cashing. I know you're all the way over 3:02:57.920 --> 3:03:04.560 in Bali. Yeah, I still want my favorite yo Leon. 3:03:04.840 --> 3:03:07.120 He called me. I was supposed to do it. I 3:03:07.200 --> 3:03:09.400 was supposed to do his party. I think he put 3:03:09.480 --> 3:03:13.240 everybody he had. Everybody under the jet was on it. 3:03:13.600 --> 3:03:16.280 I was called and he called me to be on 3:03:16.440 --> 3:03:19.800 the jet and I said, you know, I can't. I 3:03:19.920 --> 3:03:22.520 have a concert. I'm not able to make it. He said, 3:03:23.000 --> 3:03:25.560 I just wanted to know said, I call you that 3:03:26.959 --> 3:03:32.120 I was like or something drunkards that's how you you 3:03:34.400 --> 3:03:36.920 and and and I said, you know, but catch me 3:03:37.040 --> 3:03:39.080 on the next one. I definitely come, you know, because 3:03:39.200 --> 3:03:42.800 it's amazing to just even hear from you. But I'm 3:03:43.000 --> 3:03:45.160 one say on that call. You know you still own 3:03:45.240 --> 3:03:50.400 my favor. But I'm gonna catch favorite now. But no, 3:03:50.720 --> 3:03:55.960 Leo is my guy. Yeah, I have to ask thank 3:03:56.000 --> 3:04:00.760 you for whole signing that. Yeah, wait what they co signed? 3:04:01.040 --> 3:04:05.160 He signed? He's O the favorite. He needs to get 3:04:05.200 --> 3:04:05.680 that favorite. 3:04:07.560 --> 3:04:09.120 Hold on what you got. You can let him on, 3:04:09.200 --> 3:04:13.000 you can let him out. Okay, thank you thanking my bad, 3:04:13.879 --> 3:04:15.720 my son, my son. And like he bullies me, he 3:04:15.800 --> 3:04:16.280 bullies me. 3:04:16.600 --> 3:04:19.520 We've been bullied all this whole this episode, this whole episode, 3:04:19.520 --> 3:04:25.160 we've been realizing that sh everybody is being bullied. What 3:04:25.320 --> 3:04:28.720 you said? What oh ship? 3:04:29.360 --> 3:04:36.920 I'm not sure about your questions? Man, Okay, that's so well. 3:04:37.360 --> 3:04:43.040 His beef for baby Face his staffed and now now 3:04:43.160 --> 3:04:48.320 you're out of yourself you beef for baby Face. Like, 3:04:48.680 --> 3:04:52.560 I'm gonna be honest, how do you and baby Face 3:04:52.680 --> 3:04:57.480 get beat? Why y'all putting us into beaf this? 3:04:57.640 --> 3:05:02.240 How this ship happened with Biggie you back black streating 3:05:02.840 --> 3:05:06.280 no guy and knowing this, everybody putting us in beefs 3:05:06.360 --> 3:05:11.200 we ain't in no beef. I just don't think that 3:05:11.360 --> 3:05:14.119 he would give me a shot for us to create 3:05:15.480 --> 3:05:20.680 versus on a stage like Monica and Brandy and Brandy 3:05:21.920 --> 3:05:25.280 and I'm telling them, put back on your boxing robe 3:05:26.080 --> 3:05:30.640 and how you came out on versus and let's do this, man, 3:05:30.959 --> 3:05:33.680 Let's get back in the ring. Let's take it to Africa. 3:05:34.280 --> 3:05:52.360 What's that, babyface? I want a firm Oh yeah, New York. Okay, 3:05:52.520 --> 3:06:01.440 so he put on a rope. You're you ain't You 3:06:01.480 --> 3:06:07.640 ain't see that? I was like, for real, Okay. I 3:06:07.800 --> 3:06:10.920 called Mike Tyson. Magically Johnson, I had everybody had the 3:06:11.360 --> 3:06:17.160 We had the first and then the fight happened, and 3:06:17.280 --> 3:06:20.000 then the Teddy Valley Internet. He never gave you my shot. 3:06:20.080 --> 3:06:22.040 De finished. We never got to finish. Do you know that? 3:06:23.360 --> 3:06:28.920 So why don't we finish? You want that smoke? Listen? 3:06:29.160 --> 3:06:31.160 I could see it in your eyes through your glasses. 3:06:31.240 --> 3:06:35.280 Listen, you are ready for real? And that was like before, 3:06:35.440 --> 3:06:37.600 like it won't It wasn't in the same room. Your 3:06:37.640 --> 3:06:38.720 internet was a little crazy. 3:06:38.840 --> 3:06:41.160 I remember that now. It really wasn't It was just 3:06:41.240 --> 3:06:43.560 the equipment I had and I g was just too 3:06:43.640 --> 3:06:47.480 a little behind. And technology. Yeah now we got it together. Yeah, 3:06:47.640 --> 3:06:50.680 no we did. Yeah, I own my own internet. You 3:06:50.760 --> 3:06:52.240 want that remad. 3:06:56.320 --> 3:06:57.600 But but but but. 3:06:59.160 --> 3:07:02.120 Babyface is one of the most incredible writers in this 3:07:02.280 --> 3:07:05.320 whole entire world. That's it. I will never have a 3:07:05.360 --> 3:07:09.160 beef with him. I just think that we need to 3:07:09.280 --> 3:07:14.119 do this. The example is we had this idea first 3:07:14.200 --> 3:07:18.920 to put it on the stage. Yes, well I did, 3:07:19.920 --> 3:07:25.200 and it was my dream. And if had we did 3:07:25.280 --> 3:07:28.000 that because we were the only ones that never had 3:07:28.160 --> 3:07:31.640 verses like how we created it. When they went on 3:07:31.720 --> 3:07:34.120 the stage, that was our creation because that's what we 3:07:34.280 --> 3:07:37.920 did at the house. If I didn't do that, they 3:07:37.959 --> 3:07:42.720 would versus would have been still in the house. Am 3:07:42.760 --> 3:07:47.360 I right along? Nobody would have never known about doing 3:07:47.560 --> 3:07:50.560 verses on no dog on stage. It's like, oh, Man, 3:07:51.280 --> 3:07:54.760 Teddy did it. Now we should do this with everybody. 3:07:55.920 --> 3:07:58.080 They even let Beanie Man and them have dog on 3:07:58.240 --> 3:08:04.720 boomboxes bos. They got a little dangerous in the yard. 3:08:05.240 --> 3:08:07.640 Police came. I said, wait a minute, where we're going. 3:08:08.120 --> 3:08:12.240 So we're doing what I did It's almost like what 3:08:12.360 --> 3:08:16.160 I did with new Jack Swing and everybody. They got 3:08:16.240 --> 3:08:20.840 on it, and I'm happy about that. It's just a legacy. 3:08:22.240 --> 3:08:25.040 That's all of this. But babyface, if you give me 3:08:25.160 --> 3:08:27.640 that shot, we're gonna make the culture just go wow. 3:08:28.560 --> 3:08:31.840 They just brought back versus like Monica. We how we 3:08:32.000 --> 3:08:36.880 let them get it before us and then they keep it. Well, 3:08:36.920 --> 3:08:39.120 I'm gonna keep it one hundred. I brought it to 3:08:39.240 --> 3:08:44.760 some promoters and they didn't believe. They didn't believe we're 3:08:44.840 --> 3:08:50.560 the We were the biggest of all the verses, every 3:08:50.680 --> 3:08:53.120 last one. You could put a couple of them together 3:08:53.240 --> 3:08:58.040 and still wouldn't even meet ours. You could put a few, 3:08:58.200 --> 3:09:00.920 you could put more than five together, still didn't make ours. 3:09:02.200 --> 3:09:07.560 We had over eight billion instances. They didn't want to 3:09:07.760 --> 3:09:12.520 display that, but CNN told the truth. Yes, they're the 3:09:12.640 --> 3:09:15.160 ones who reported it was like, this is over eight 3:09:15.280 --> 3:09:19.440 billion instances. The reason why because ig didn't want us 3:09:19.480 --> 3:09:25.400 to beat Michelle Obama. She had a party the same 3:09:25.520 --> 3:09:29.640 day and guess who was detailed for the party. You 3:09:29.879 --> 3:09:34.160 damn right, and he left the party. So watchat come 3:09:34.240 --> 3:09:39.720 Mutch all the artists. Quaville called me and said, yo, 3:09:39.920 --> 3:09:42.560 you broke the rules. We can't even get back in 3:09:42.640 --> 3:09:44.440 the room. I said, we can't even get back in 3:09:44.520 --> 3:09:52.160 our own That's what breaking the Internet is. They didn't 3:09:52.200 --> 3:09:55.920 do it, and everybody afterwards it was like they didn't 3:09:55.920 --> 3:10:00.760 bring the hype. The hype was the Teddy Rally. Internet broke. 3:10:02.040 --> 3:10:06.360 He broke it, then then he broke it again. So 3:10:09.400 --> 3:10:12.720 I think he'd observed that shot and I think, you know, 3:10:13.480 --> 3:10:15.840 face before you know, he'd just say, yo, I don't 3:10:16.000 --> 3:10:18.800 I'm good, I don't want to do this again. You know, 3:10:18.920 --> 3:10:21.840 I'm retiring. This is the way to go out with 3:10:21.920 --> 3:10:24.600 a bang, because we bring the culture. He's got all 3:10:24.640 --> 3:10:28.720 those hits and I got some records and and it 3:10:28.760 --> 3:10:30.400 would be more than a three hours show. But we 3:10:30.480 --> 3:10:32.000 wouldn't do that. We're just going to give you a 3:10:32.080 --> 3:10:35.800 piece of our love and keep yo, keep everybody just coming. 3:10:35.920 --> 3:10:39.560 I know what it would do, Monica, they're now they're 3:10:39.600 --> 3:10:42.560 the example. We were supposed to be the example, but 3:10:42.760 --> 3:10:45.039 they are the example. And you see how well that did. 3:10:46.400 --> 3:10:50.920 People want to see verses on the stage and on tour. 3:10:52.040 --> 3:10:57.720 So like say if Swiss and Timberland to a versus 3:10:58.080 --> 3:11:02.080 like tourt them on the stage because they started. They 3:11:02.120 --> 3:11:04.320 got to be the verse, would you say, like Monica 3:11:04.360 --> 3:11:11.000 and Brandy and be yourselves being themselves and put it 3:11:11.120 --> 3:11:15.400 on the stage, the same thing. I mean, already Gladys 3:11:15.480 --> 3:11:18.240 Knight and what's the name already doing it, tayg le Bell, 3:11:19.280 --> 3:11:23.640 they doing it, You're doing well. These things would do well. 3:11:24.720 --> 3:11:27.760 You just can't be afraid of it. And that's what 3:11:27.920 --> 3:11:30.920 I feel. And it's got to be well produced as well. Yes, 3:11:35.560 --> 3:11:38.400 I just think that if we do that, it will 3:11:38.480 --> 3:11:41.200 be off the chain. It will take the summer and 3:11:41.360 --> 3:11:43.920 the winter. We will the would be probably asking us 3:11:43.959 --> 3:11:46.879 to come Africa or something, and I thought we should 3:11:46.959 --> 3:11:50.080 started in like a place like Africa. I heard you 3:11:50.120 --> 3:11:52.640 say that earlier. It's like make it look like yo, 3:11:52.959 --> 3:11:55.760 this the rumbling the jungles, like we can go ahead 3:11:55.760 --> 3:11:58.840 and it won't be you go first, you go second. 3:11:58.920 --> 3:12:02.080 We just go back and fall flight. How celebration and 3:12:02.200 --> 3:12:06.360 Chris Brown did event we celebrating. Ain't no competition because 3:12:06.360 --> 3:12:09.760 I ain't competing against them. Not doing that. I will 3:12:09.840 --> 3:12:12.200 never compete with my brother. That was just strictly for 3:12:12.360 --> 3:12:16.200 the culture. And you know, we made it look like 3:12:16.520 --> 3:12:19.360 we we ain't backing down. I know he ain't backing 3:12:19.440 --> 3:12:21.840 now and I'm not backing down neither. Like you know, 3:12:23.160 --> 3:12:25.080 let's say it is it? So let me ask you 3:12:25.240 --> 3:12:30.000 right why in our culture? Right, it's just like we 3:12:30.280 --> 3:12:34.119 we we like people like us want to celebrate our legends. 3:12:34.720 --> 3:12:39.680 But and hip hop or and people say, all right, man, 3:12:39.920 --> 3:12:42.840 you know you're over the hill now, like and like 3:12:43.120 --> 3:12:45.680 like and like I think I think you said it earlier. 3:12:46.920 --> 3:12:48.959 I was like, man, keep working, like, let's keep working. 3:12:49.240 --> 3:12:52.760 But why in our culture there's no such thing as 3:12:53.000 --> 3:12:59.039 washed up? And exactly music, there's no such thing. These 3:12:59.080 --> 3:13:00.400 guys are nine hundred years old. 3:13:02.720 --> 3:13:04.760 Why is it? Why is it in our culture that 3:13:04.959 --> 3:13:11.160 is frowned upon? Because we are so critical in scrutinizing 3:13:11.360 --> 3:13:14.240 each other that we never give each other the love 3:13:14.400 --> 3:13:19.200 that we deserve. So that's why sometimes you got to 3:13:19.320 --> 3:13:21.920 just keep doing what you're doing so people can still 3:13:22.000 --> 3:13:27.440 receive you. And you know, don't let anybody turn you 3:13:27.520 --> 3:13:32.440 away or stare you away from being or striving to 3:13:32.560 --> 3:13:37.960 be great, because one day they will see that you 3:13:38.080 --> 3:13:40.400 got to show them your greatness in order for you 3:13:41.440 --> 3:13:45.120 to be accepted. You just got to show it. Don't 3:13:45.160 --> 3:13:46.880 talk about it. You know a lot of people talk 3:13:46.920 --> 3:13:48.840 about it and bring R and B back or I'm 3:13:48.840 --> 3:13:53.000 going to bring this back and never conquer. So you 3:13:53.120 --> 3:13:55.720 gotta now just do it and not talk about it. 3:13:55.959 --> 3:14:01.120 Just do it and and and and be strong about it. 3:14:01.360 --> 3:14:07.520 Just be determined. I'm determined to you know, be consistent 3:14:08.120 --> 3:14:11.080 because when you're consistent, that's the key. And you know, 3:14:11.120 --> 3:14:14.280 I haven't waited, like I've gotts thrown at me when 3:14:14.320 --> 3:14:16.720 I said, Yo, this is guy two point oh. But 3:14:16.879 --> 3:14:20.120 when people started hearing it, they started getting those dodgs back. 3:14:21.600 --> 3:14:23.160 You know what I'm saying, And that's what you gotta do. 3:14:23.360 --> 3:14:26.360 Like I really feel like you got another record in you. 3:14:27.600 --> 3:14:30.560 You know what I'm saying. No, seriously, I promise you 3:14:31.480 --> 3:14:36.240 if forell you and forel like how the clips come on? 3:14:36.360 --> 3:14:38.600 Look at the clipst I got a doctor dre b. 3:14:39.640 --> 3:14:43.360 I got three of them, Okay recently, yeah, a couple 3:14:43.400 --> 3:14:43.880 of weeks ago. 3:14:44.120 --> 3:14:49.560 So so we got you. Give me a call, please please, Yeah, 3:14:49.600 --> 3:14:51.320 I'm going going to make. 3:14:51.200 --> 3:14:55.280 Sure you're in the same city right now, like I'm 3:14:55.280 --> 3:14:57.240 coming to get to tellybody got. 3:15:01.440 --> 3:15:08.320 And you know, you know what for me is when 3:15:09.280 --> 3:15:12.400 you do the records out of love like we first started, 3:15:12.480 --> 3:15:16.080 we did this ship because we loved it exactly. It 3:15:16.320 --> 3:15:20.280 was it was the industry who made us hate it. 3:15:21.640 --> 3:15:24.840 But it's not the industrutiny, yes, and not only that, 3:15:24.959 --> 3:15:29.320 it's just like like like when you spoke about, you know, 3:15:29.440 --> 3:15:31.960 the career thing and all that, like like certain things, 3:15:32.040 --> 3:15:34.240 like certain people took advantage of it, like me, for 3:15:34.560 --> 3:15:36.520 for sure, I got took an advantage of. 3:15:39.640 --> 3:15:42.160 For me to come back and me to do it 3:15:42.320 --> 3:15:45.960 on my own terms will be like like like that 3:15:46.080 --> 3:15:47.920 that's would be what I love. You know what I'm saying. 3:15:48.080 --> 3:15:50.360 Thing you're supposed to do is you're supposed to be 3:15:50.440 --> 3:15:54.200 on your own tongue better yes, instead of being faster. Yes, 3:15:54.320 --> 3:15:56.400 you're never face and you're not a fALS. I mean, 3:15:56.440 --> 3:16:00.280 it would be so easy for you. I should some 3:16:00.520 --> 3:16:04.640 I got I'm already ready. Okay, you know what. 3:16:06.360 --> 3:16:10.920 Please love I would love because you know what me 3:16:11.080 --> 3:16:14.240 and my partner like, uh we said, me and e FN, 3:16:16.280 --> 3:16:18.760 we really started this show to give people like you 3:16:19.440 --> 3:16:23.760 your flowers, to give people like you your uh your credit, 3:16:23.879 --> 3:16:27.600 because it's truly that like like if it's not you 3:16:28.200 --> 3:16:32.360 like related like like like us being connected like you 3:16:32.680 --> 3:16:37.320 truly are one of the icons you are icon, You 3:16:37.400 --> 3:16:41.080 are a legend. You are a person that if it 3:16:41.200 --> 3:16:44.920 wasn't for you, the music wouldn't be what it is today. 3:16:46.320 --> 3:16:50.000 And I'm not afraid to tell you that to your face. 3:16:50.480 --> 3:16:54.040 That is like you push the needle. You are the 3:16:54.879 --> 3:16:57.720 the move what they call it, the move shaker. Yeah, yeah, 3:16:58.000 --> 3:16:59.279 you are person. 3:16:59.400 --> 3:17:03.560 You are that person. And I feel like our culture 3:17:07.120 --> 3:17:09.720 has to celebrate that. We have to appraise that. We 3:17:09.840 --> 3:17:13.520 have to let you know, you know, to your face, 3:17:14.200 --> 3:17:18.160 and if our kulture ain't gonna do it, we will. 3:17:22.080 --> 3:17:24.280 This is why I love doing this show because as 3:17:24.680 --> 3:17:27.520 the young fan of me comes back and meets the 3:17:27.760 --> 3:17:31.800 icons and the heroes. So this is an actual concette 3:17:31.840 --> 3:17:34.600 that I bought, right, look at that. That's crazy. And 3:17:34.640 --> 3:17:37.200 I used to love because I was an aspiring DJ. 3:17:37.320 --> 3:17:41.280 Couldn't afford turntables originally, right, So I loved all the 3:17:41.400 --> 3:17:45.360 singles because they had the instrumentals. Yeah, but I hated 3:17:45.440 --> 3:17:47.920 that they always came in the paper, So I used 3:17:47.959 --> 3:17:50.200 to cut them up and put them in the plastic 3:17:51.280 --> 3:17:54.000 so they would make so they would be protected. So 3:17:54.680 --> 3:17:57.040 now I'm bringing you this now, I mean, this is Droomshaker. 3:17:57.080 --> 3:17:59.440 He knows the year that is well, this record is. 3:17:59.600 --> 3:18:02.840 Listen to me, there's two records in hip hop that 3:18:03.000 --> 3:18:06.000 defined summers. Whether this came out and somebody, I can't 3:18:06.040 --> 3:18:08.400 tell you, but I'm telling you define for me summers. 3:18:08.480 --> 3:18:12.160 It's Dwick and Drumshaker because he jerked off to those videos, 3:18:12.280 --> 3:18:17.960 keep it real, relaxed at all. I'll tell you a fact. 3:18:20.240 --> 3:18:26.519 It's so crazy because for so long we we WASN'TSD 3:18:27.360 --> 3:18:32.200 we wasn't considered hip hop. I know that. But you 3:18:32.280 --> 3:18:36.840 know Miami, Miami guys, so that was it. Wait hold on, 3:18:36.920 --> 3:18:38.960 so y'all looked at them like to no, no, no, no, 3:18:39.040 --> 3:18:41.800 you understand. I'm a Miami top head. So I'm not 3:18:41.920 --> 3:18:44.879 looking at that divisive stuff that's going on somewhere else. 3:18:45.480 --> 3:18:47.760 To us, this is this is this is the jam. 3:18:47.959 --> 3:18:51.360 So this is it a lot of people, like I said, 3:18:52.560 --> 3:18:55.960 if people would have asked, like, yo, so is it 3:18:56.080 --> 3:19:00.400 hip hop? No, that's rexing effect or that's news swing. 3:19:01.280 --> 3:19:06.680 And why do music that I said, scrutiny, Why music 3:19:06.800 --> 3:19:11.920 have to be put into a categlory or into a 3:19:12.080 --> 3:19:15.680 box when it was everything to everybody. This was the 3:19:15.879 --> 3:19:19.520 first record, the first Booty song to play on MTV, 3:19:20.920 --> 3:19:25.880 the very first throw. They wasn't on MTV yet or 3:19:26.040 --> 3:19:33.240 never took. That record was decided by a judge. The 3:19:33.600 --> 3:19:37.760 first commercial about Rumpshaker was a judge and they played 3:19:37.800 --> 3:19:39.879 a record and you know, it was like a demonstration 3:19:40.000 --> 3:19:44.760 and this record makes MTV. That's crazy. But I didn't 3:19:44.760 --> 3:19:49.240 know that. Yeah, yep. And we did a lot to 3:19:49.320 --> 3:19:53.680 make that record make TV because we had some we 3:19:53.800 --> 3:19:56.400 had some stuff going on and we had some stars 3:19:56.440 --> 3:20:00.400 in there. Like you you would know, like the the 3:20:00.520 --> 3:20:04.480 girl is playing the successphone, you know who that is. 3:20:05.120 --> 3:20:11.040 That's Bobby Brown's wife. Wow, today my mind. Wasn't his 3:20:11.120 --> 3:20:15.040 wife then though? Wasn't his wife then? Right? That's his wife? 3:20:15.120 --> 3:20:21.400 Now do y'all think, y'all y'all introduced? Uh no, no, no, no, no, 3:20:22.320 --> 3:20:26.120 that's all Day. That's that's Luke. That's I even said 3:20:26.120 --> 3:20:27.800 a lot of my records, I'm the East Coast Luke. 3:20:28.240 --> 3:20:31.360 Goddamn it. Okay, but but listen, you said this is 3:20:31.440 --> 3:20:34.960 hip hop nonetheless, Yeah, but no, it wasn't. I mean, well, 3:20:35.320 --> 3:20:40.840 when the fiftieth to us in my anniversary, we wasn't called. 3:20:42.240 --> 3:20:44.080 And let me tell you something, this is a hip 3:20:44.080 --> 3:20:48.280 hop hit record exactly. Nobody says the lead rapper is 3:20:48.360 --> 3:20:53.400 one of the most influenced, influential rappers because a lot 3:20:53.480 --> 3:20:56.000 of people and I'm gonna keep it one hundred a 3:20:56.080 --> 3:20:59.760 lot of people a guy that got their style from him, 3:21:00.959 --> 3:21:06.240 I'll kill a plus keep going. He's a very educated 3:21:06.360 --> 3:21:11.760 rapper and freestyle, Yeah, A plus off through it. But 3:21:12.840 --> 3:21:16.440 you know when people don't give you that respect, he's 3:21:16.480 --> 3:21:19.040 just like, yo, I got another job over here. I 3:21:19.080 --> 3:21:22.480 can just do that. And we just kind of left 3:21:22.520 --> 3:21:26.040 it alone. But when we performed that song, I mean, 3:21:26.080 --> 3:21:28.080 I think it's going to go down in history. Like 3:21:28.200 --> 3:21:30.199 I said, I mean, I don't know if everybody agrees 3:21:30.240 --> 3:21:32.720 with me, but I feel like I think it as well. 3:21:32.840 --> 3:21:36.000 And it's rump shaking. Those are the summer records for 3:21:36.160 --> 3:21:39.640 that time period, which is the golden era in my 3:21:40.040 --> 3:21:43.160 you know, from my generation of hip hop. YEP, it's 3:21:43.240 --> 3:21:45.760 drinking and rump shaking. Like there's no other record that's 3:21:45.760 --> 3:21:48.160 going to bring everybody on the dance floor like that. 3:21:50.080 --> 3:21:52.680 I feel the same way, you know this is that's 3:21:52.720 --> 3:21:56.240 a classic. You know, there's not a lot of rap classics. 3:21:57.080 --> 3:21:59.560 You know that you could say I could play twenty 3:21:59.640 --> 3:22:05.520 years this record ninety two and still playing today in 3:22:05.760 --> 3:22:09.200 the clubs. And the sample, the original sample of Public 3:22:09.280 --> 3:22:12.880 Enemy use right first or no? The original sample is 3:22:12.959 --> 3:22:15.760 by some I got souped million dollars for that record, 3:22:17.160 --> 3:22:20.120 A million, a million dollars. I had to pay me. 3:22:22.280 --> 3:22:25.440 So we'll see what they called us lady later when 3:22:25.480 --> 3:22:29.040 the record the record did half a million because the 3:22:29.120 --> 3:22:35.160 record was in and part of my publishing check went 3:22:35.280 --> 3:22:39.840 to pay for that sample. They let us as an 3:22:39.920 --> 3:22:49.720 Indian band, an Indian band before Public Enemy before yeah, 3:22:50.360 --> 3:22:55.920 and then Jay used it afterwards. Yeah right, yeah, wow crazy, 3:22:58.120 --> 3:23:04.680 So we know you didn't smoke the blunt relaxed. It 3:23:05.920 --> 3:23:09.680 was for later before. Can I ask this is for 3:23:09.800 --> 3:23:14.000 my in a junkie whoa, whoa the inner junkie and 3:23:14.120 --> 3:23:18.040 you what's the what? What kind of drugs was in 3:23:18.080 --> 3:23:24.680 the Bobby Brown sessions? Well? See, was there not cooking 3:23:25.640 --> 3:23:29.200 that I work with that did substance? Did not bring 3:23:29.280 --> 3:23:33.520 it around me. I'm gonna tell you, like like Snoop 3:23:33.600 --> 3:23:37.840 Dogg and that's my brother. But Snoop would even ask me, 3:23:37.959 --> 3:23:42.240 oh can we can we hit one? And one day 3:23:44.560 --> 3:23:47.360 he smoked in the session, right, and Aaron Hall was 3:23:47.400 --> 3:23:51.480 with us. Everybody was in the session and Snoop came 3:23:51.560 --> 3:23:55.320 and he said, I bet you can't hit this. You 3:23:55.560 --> 3:24:00.280 you'll never hit that. And Snoop had some strong stuff right, 3:24:00.400 --> 3:24:06.160 and I said, so, I bet y'all would because they 3:24:06.240 --> 3:24:10.680 used to smoke every day. Him, corrupt everybody, creep everybody. 3:24:11.320 --> 3:24:18.520 So I took a hit and it changed my life. 3:24:23.160 --> 3:24:27.400 Now I'm gonna tell you why. Because I have hyperthyroids hyperthyroidism, 3:24:28.200 --> 3:24:31.800 and I used to have tremors. My hands used to 3:24:32.080 --> 3:24:35.160 shake a lot, you know. I had a grade disease 3:24:35.240 --> 3:24:42.320 and cancer. Wow, and I used to I could never sleep, 3:24:42.400 --> 3:24:45.520 like if I'm in a studio session, I can go 3:24:45.840 --> 3:24:53.600 to for forty eight hours literally. But for me, what 3:24:53.840 --> 3:24:57.160 helped me? And now we're working on the strand as 3:24:57.240 --> 3:25:06.880 a tea because tea said, because uh, Indeca, it's probably 3:25:07.040 --> 3:25:10.040 it's the best thing for me. And I only have 3:25:10.160 --> 3:25:16.640 to take one. And I'm good because the up order down, 3:25:16.920 --> 3:25:22.480 down down, because I'm already up. Okay, I'm already up. Like, 3:25:24.480 --> 3:25:28.119 I'm like, why you say, jumping bunny, you know I'm 3:25:28.480 --> 3:25:32.600 out of here. I can go, no, do yourself. I'm like, 3:25:32.720 --> 3:25:37.959 do you sell? Like? And it was nothing that because 3:25:37.959 --> 3:25:41.400 I don't really like taking medicine at all. There was 3:25:41.480 --> 3:25:46.840 nothing that could help me and my my ex manager 3:25:46.879 --> 3:25:48.520 I used to play with. I used to sell you 3:25:48.640 --> 3:25:52.080 a pusher man, you know, like it was your drug dealer, 3:25:52.360 --> 3:25:55.440 because he was you know, he he introduced when they 3:25:55.480 --> 3:25:59.080 had the vaps. But I realized that was dangerous. Then 3:25:59.120 --> 3:26:00.600 he said, you know, they and you would have to 3:26:00.640 --> 3:26:02.840 do the real deal. Or let's figure out how we 3:26:02.959 --> 3:26:06.320 can turn it into a te So I have a 3:26:06.440 --> 3:26:09.840 company now really putting together a strand and so it 3:26:09.879 --> 3:26:12.960 can make it into a tea. That's why, so that 3:26:13.240 --> 3:26:15.720 I'm able to you know, sleep, but it also helps 3:26:15.800 --> 3:26:21.520 me with my thye words. So yeah, okay, So the 3:26:21.640 --> 3:26:23.760 drugs and studio, I could tell you a couple of 3:26:23.800 --> 3:26:29.520 people who asked me, you know, I'm in ODB O 3:26:29.720 --> 3:26:33.560 dB when he came to do the remix for Fix. Okay, 3:26:34.120 --> 3:26:38.200 and this is how you got that that part on 3:26:38.360 --> 3:26:43.040 Fixed when he went who her name was, Vagina? The 3:26:43.200 --> 3:26:46.320 dude had to have a forty and he had to 3:26:46.400 --> 3:26:50.879 have his weed. Nobody never did weed in my studio. 3:26:52.280 --> 3:26:54.360 The first person to do weed in my studio was 3:26:54.440 --> 3:26:58.400 Buster bust a round. Yeah, my brother, because he's like 3:27:00.760 --> 3:27:03.080 I don't feel good. I don't feel good. Yo. I 3:27:03.160 --> 3:27:12.039 need Yo, I need I don't feel yo, yos an 3:27:13.160 --> 3:27:18.600 you talk to because some gotta give. I was like, 3:27:18.640 --> 3:27:22.600 who is talking about? He's like, yo, I know you 3:27:22.640 --> 3:27:25.960 don't allow like you know, smoking in your studio. Well, 3:27:27.080 --> 3:27:32.000 can you could just give me this one? I'll finish 3:27:32.120 --> 3:27:36.160 this record like like trust wow. I was like, I 3:27:37.959 --> 3:27:43.920 you got a bush he's smoking? Was it? It changes? 3:27:44.240 --> 3:27:48.960 You know, it's another playing field when when you got that. 3:27:49.280 --> 3:27:52.560 So like even sometimes like when I'm in the studio, 3:27:54.080 --> 3:27:57.600 I would have that feeling like today is the day 3:27:57.680 --> 3:28:02.120 I need to because I'm on something right now and 3:28:02.200 --> 3:28:05.960 I need to focus. The stuff I do is give 3:28:06.000 --> 3:28:09.640 me a focus. And I'm like in that zone and 3:28:10.440 --> 3:28:14.720 like just working on records for like Usher and stuff, 3:28:14.800 --> 3:28:16.680 and I'm like, yo, I gotta get in the zone. 3:28:17.720 --> 3:28:18.080 Mm hmm. 3:28:18.560 --> 3:28:24.200 So man, taking a picture because I can't thank you enough, man, 3:28:24.360 --> 3:28:29.040 Like I know you got to wrap it up, but 3:28:29.120 --> 3:28:31.039 I'm gonna take another shot for you. I'm gonna take 3:28:31.040 --> 3:28:34.560 too more shots for you because yeah, yeah, I'm gonna 3:28:34.560 --> 3:28:36.119 take too much shot, take too much. 3:28:38.120 --> 3:28:42.760 Because let me just tell you, man, we all owe you. Man. 3:28:43.320 --> 3:28:46.240 Music mean nothing no, no, no no, I gave me 3:28:46.400 --> 3:28:51.160 let me get you gave me my gime me check 3:28:51.240 --> 3:28:55.280 this out. I'm gonna be one hond. I didn't think 3:28:55.320 --> 3:29:00.440 I will ever make it here really serious because I 3:29:00.520 --> 3:29:03.879 didn't really have like when I go on a show 3:29:04.040 --> 3:29:06.360 like dude, like your show has got to be something 3:29:06.480 --> 3:29:10.520 like this. This really got me here. I feel like 3:29:10.640 --> 3:29:12.920 this is my reason. I know you wanted me to 3:29:12.959 --> 3:29:15.400 come up because we talked about oh yes at the 3:29:15.440 --> 3:29:19.920 piece pot piece, but this right here, I feel like 3:29:20.080 --> 3:29:22.640 this was the vehicle that I feel I have something 3:29:22.680 --> 3:29:24.440 to talk about. And then all the stuff you wanted 3:29:24.480 --> 3:29:26.760 to ask me, and then the games and it became 3:29:27.560 --> 3:29:31.600 like yo, that's flowers for me. Yes, you know what 3:29:31.600 --> 3:29:35.160 I'm saying. Just coming on the show. I don't like 3:29:35.280 --> 3:29:37.920 I told you, I don't doing on my past, but 3:29:38.040 --> 3:29:40.920 thank you for humoring us. Yeah. Yeah, and we have 3:29:41.120 --> 3:29:43.040 to we have to. We have to, you know what, 3:29:43.920 --> 3:29:45.760 in case that's what you want to do. 3:29:46.120 --> 3:29:49.040 It's people like us that we sit around and we 3:29:49.080 --> 3:29:52.080 said we have to say, man like this like your legacy, 3:29:52.160 --> 3:29:55.640 what you've done, what you gave to us is your 3:29:55.680 --> 3:29:58.600 birth children, you birth you know, like when I said 3:29:58.840 --> 3:30:01.080 four different decades. I'm sitting back and I'm just like 3:30:01.200 --> 3:30:03.160 that shit is so beautiful, Like you know what I mean. 3:30:03.440 --> 3:30:05.720 There's people who don't last six months. These people don't 3:30:05.800 --> 3:30:08.360 last six weeks, these people don't last two weeks. And 3:30:08.520 --> 3:30:11.040 the fact is that you have this a luxurious career. 3:30:11.400 --> 3:30:13.720 I have to sit you as a man and tell you, 3:30:13.920 --> 3:30:16.080 thank you, thank you for doing that, because I know 3:30:16.200 --> 3:30:19.960 how much shit you have probably been through. I know 3:30:20.040 --> 3:30:21.920 how much shit that you hain't talking about in that 3:30:22.080 --> 3:30:27.640 book because I'm I can't say I'm of you, But 3:30:27.840 --> 3:30:28.800 what I'm trying to say is. 3:30:29.080 --> 3:30:32.080 I'm of that same essence we all come to trade. 3:30:32.320 --> 3:30:36.760 And I know, I know the hardship that you've been through, 3:30:36.840 --> 3:30:39.480 and I know the fact that you standing in here 3:30:39.560 --> 3:30:42.880 today as a man, sitting there and you are you 3:30:43.000 --> 3:30:46.200 are who you are, You are everyone who loves you, 3:30:46.480 --> 3:30:50.600 everyone worships you. But I know I know sometimes what 3:30:50.760 --> 3:30:51.440 we've been through. 3:30:51.760 --> 3:30:56.160 Like you know, I look at my friends sometimes and 3:30:56.800 --> 3:31:00.360 I can see them go to McDonald's and I can 3:31:00.400 --> 3:31:04.120 say to them, fuck, I'm jealous of I'm going to 3:31:04.240 --> 3:31:07.320 make them right. Not because I'm jealous of them going 3:31:07.400 --> 3:31:11.000 to McDonald's. I'm jealous that they can go to McDonald's. 3:31:11.040 --> 3:31:13.600 They can get their their chicken filet or fish for legs. 3:31:13.600 --> 3:31:16.000 I know you don't eat chicken. They could get their 3:31:16.040 --> 3:31:18.400 fish for l a. They could get their little they 3:31:18.879 --> 3:31:23.160 uh uh because my man that's vegan. Uh, they get 3:31:23.200 --> 3:31:23.640 his loop. 3:31:23.840 --> 3:31:26.160 They can get their French fries and they can sit down. 3:31:26.160 --> 3:31:27.600 I'm sorry, I'm not you mean to throw you out, 3:31:28.120 --> 3:31:33.040 but they can sit down. And that ship it vexes 3:31:33.080 --> 3:31:35.200 me sometimes because it's like, damn, I know much I 3:31:35.320 --> 3:31:38.360 sacrifice for this industry. You not much I've done for 3:31:38.480 --> 3:31:40.880 this industry, and I can't even do it. I can't 3:31:40.879 --> 3:31:46.439 even get up McDonald's meal like without being but yehad. 3:31:47.680 --> 3:31:52.320 But you can. It's just you choose not to. So 3:31:52.640 --> 3:31:57.600 it's it's like, m I I wanted, like I watched 3:31:57.680 --> 3:32:01.000 the show probably since the beginning, thank you, thank you 3:32:01.080 --> 3:32:04.680 man than you, and you know, I was like, dag, 3:32:05.800 --> 3:32:09.080 if I go on this show, I want to have something. 3:32:09.200 --> 3:32:11.400 I want to have something because I know I got 3:32:11.480 --> 3:32:14.440 something right, but I want to have something more, like 3:32:14.680 --> 3:32:18.000 something to talk about. You know. I'm always with sepstance, 3:32:18.160 --> 3:32:20.680 you know, and that's the reason why I kind of 3:32:21.400 --> 3:32:24.160 duck and Dodge. You know when I saw you, I 3:32:24.200 --> 3:32:27.000 ain't ready, No, you know what, But you know what 3:32:27.080 --> 3:32:28.520 the beautiful part about that was. 3:32:30.720 --> 3:32:32.440 Was I got, like I said, like I started this 3:32:32.520 --> 3:32:35.280 interview off when I got to see you be so 3:32:35.480 --> 3:32:39.320 happy for another person and I got to see her come. 3:32:39.360 --> 3:32:41.520 I'm saying like you like you're one of these people 3:32:41.600 --> 3:32:43.480 that like you've done everything, like you know what I mean. 3:32:43.600 --> 3:32:45.360 Like we had Will Smith on here, I'm sorry to 3:32:45.400 --> 3:32:48.840 be and Will told us he said, man, there's a 3:32:48.920 --> 3:32:49.600 mountain top. 3:32:50.800 --> 3:32:52.880 And when he said that, what is it? What is it? 3:32:53.520 --> 3:32:57.720 What cliff top? And he was he was just ascribing 3:32:57.800 --> 3:33:02.959 to us how you can make it to the top 3:33:03.520 --> 3:33:07.880 and that should just not be enough. And that shit 3:33:08.000 --> 3:33:09.320 scared the ship out of me. 3:33:09.520 --> 3:33:10.560 That was ahead. 3:33:10.560 --> 3:33:12.240 I'm sorry because I feel like you're about to say 3:33:12.240 --> 3:33:13.120 something because you're right. 3:33:13.240 --> 3:33:16.720 You're right. I always say, you know, it's easy to 3:33:16.800 --> 3:33:19.880 get to the top, but it's hard to maintain and 3:33:20.000 --> 3:33:27.160 stay there. And my formula to that is, this is 3:33:27.240 --> 3:33:32.440 the industry. If you're trying to sustain yourself, sometimes you 3:33:32.520 --> 3:33:35.000 got to sit down, just like let the sub come in. 3:33:36.760 --> 3:33:38.760 A lot of people don't know how to let the subns. 3:33:39.959 --> 3:33:45.840 So that's what I did. I created subs. I created, 3:33:46.400 --> 3:33:51.000 you know, like architects that could fulfill what I'm doing 3:33:51.080 --> 3:33:55.960 while I'm sitting down, and that's what for well, you know, 3:33:56.160 --> 3:33:58.920 that's where they all come in. It's like that at 3:33:59.040 --> 3:34:03.840 least I know that something came from or came through 3:34:04.200 --> 3:34:07.520 me that I'm able to say that he's doing it. 3:34:09.320 --> 3:34:12.600 And when you see that, like writing the drunks as well, 3:34:13.040 --> 3:34:17.600 you know, and you're able to say that I'm a 3:34:17.680 --> 3:34:21.359 part of that. It's like when you said with the clips, 3:34:21.920 --> 3:34:24.640 that's the part I'm a part of that. That's that's 3:34:24.760 --> 3:34:29.360 my war too. You know I feel that way as well. 3:34:30.360 --> 3:34:33.560 But I'll never say it's like you smile inside that 3:34:33.840 --> 3:34:37.440 that really shows right here, it's all in here, and 3:34:37.520 --> 3:34:41.080 it's all in here, you know, and and that's what 3:34:41.240 --> 3:34:46.360 you're seeing. Because I'm proud, like like one hundred one 3:34:46.520 --> 3:34:51.440 thousand percent proud of all of them. I can tell 3:34:51.800 --> 3:34:55.320 you know what I'm saying. It's no, like never have 3:34:55.480 --> 3:35:00.280 been any type of heoration. No, because when you know, 3:35:00.640 --> 3:35:04.720 like when you see like you envisioned the tree, like 3:35:06.920 --> 3:35:09.360 it only adds on to you. But I got to 3:35:09.360 --> 3:35:12.960 see it. I'll stood behind you bro, you behind me, 3:35:13.080 --> 3:35:15.680 but you ain't see me drop the tear of joy. 3:35:15.800 --> 3:35:18.960 I did see that, you did. I did see that 3:35:19.040 --> 3:35:23.920 because I who was sitting right behind me? It was me. 3:35:26.920 --> 3:35:30.720 My wife was dead. I was almost wanted to say, 3:35:31.000 --> 3:35:33.160 get the camera because you know you were right here. 3:35:33.240 --> 3:35:35.720 You were exactly where e FN was to me. 3:35:36.360 --> 3:35:39.840 And what I realized was our whole chemistry the bose. 3:35:39.720 --> 3:35:42.520 Together at that very moment. I knew it already, but 3:35:42.959 --> 3:35:46.000 I looked and and and you know what, God bless 3:35:46.080 --> 3:35:48.680 hip hop man, God blessed hip hop man. God bless 3:35:49.480 --> 3:35:51.840 The last person that did that with me where I 3:35:51.959 --> 3:35:55.840 had a tear of joy was when I won We 3:35:56.000 --> 3:36:00.800 won the the Grammy for No Dignity. And then what 3:36:01.000 --> 3:36:06.240 came next was a Record of the Year and voice 3:36:06.280 --> 3:36:13.600 the Men one and Rick Rubin took a piece of 3:36:13.680 --> 3:36:20.640 paper and wrote that should have been your award, And 3:36:20.840 --> 3:36:27.959 I said, everything happens on God's time. Sometimes you gotta 3:36:28.040 --> 3:36:32.720 sit like I said, You gotta sit back that God 3:36:33.920 --> 3:36:38.320 stayed away. Are process. You trust the process. You know 3:36:38.720 --> 3:36:41.160 you get there. You just got to stay in, stay 3:36:41.200 --> 3:36:44.800 in the number in the game. Do another record. But 3:36:44.959 --> 3:36:47.720 let me just let me just end on this note, 3:36:48.240 --> 3:36:51.200 I really have to thank you again, Thank you again 3:36:51.400 --> 3:36:58.000 for your contribute, con your contribution to life, not only 3:36:58.240 --> 3:37:02.880 just music, Like your music changed people's lives. So I 3:37:03.000 --> 3:37:06.680 want to say thank you for what you contributed to life, 3:37:07.600 --> 3:37:09.400 even bigger than music, you know what I mean. Like 3:37:09.480 --> 3:37:11.640 when I'm sitting abound and I'm sitting bound, I was 3:37:11.640 --> 3:37:16.959 like this man, this man, caters are ears for. 3:37:18.800 --> 3:37:22.720 Thirty damn years and forty. Of course, of course the 3:37:22.760 --> 3:37:25.840 limit your name job was just downplaying it. But I'm 3:37:25.920 --> 3:37:26.920 doing it in the right way. 3:37:27.200 --> 3:37:29.560 What I'm trying to say is that shit is so 3:37:29.640 --> 3:37:32.840 beautiful man, Like I'm proud to know you. I'm proud 3:37:32.879 --> 3:37:35.880 to be in the same area as you. I'm probably 3:37:35.879 --> 3:37:38.480 be in the same room as you. I'm proud. And 3:37:39.720 --> 3:37:42.080 me and him like we said, man, we want to 3:37:42.160 --> 3:37:42.640 give people. 3:37:42.720 --> 3:37:45.400 They flowers while they are alive, they trees while they 3:37:45.440 --> 3:37:47.320 can smell them, and they thoughts where they can tell them. 3:37:47.640 --> 3:37:50.480 And we want to tell you, thank you, brother, thank 3:37:50.560 --> 3:37:52.440 you for being who you are, thank you for being 3:37:52.520 --> 3:37:53.000 this you. 3:37:55.720 --> 3:37:57.760 And I'm so scared because I'm looking at your people 3:37:57.800 --> 3:37:59.880 and I can tell they want you to go, and 3:38:00.040 --> 3:38:01.920 I'm like, okay, you still got to do a picture 3:38:02.000 --> 3:38:06.320 and dropping. But take one more shot. Oh I forgot, 3:38:06.360 --> 3:38:08.760 I forgot. I jerked you on the shot. I jerked 3:38:08.760 --> 3:38:10.440 you on the shot. I jerked you on the shot. Poor. 3:38:10.560 --> 3:38:13.320 So you know how the ship is. This is gonna 3:38:13.320 --> 3:38:18.840 be got. I got this and silo, silo, and thank 3:38:18.879 --> 3:38:20.920 you and take you to your team, man, thank you. 3:38:21.520 --> 3:38:26.400 All of your team is beautiful. Man. They was on point. 3:38:26.480 --> 3:38:29.199 Even though my Dominican friends send him the wrong address. 3:38:29.520 --> 3:38:32.400 I'm blaming it on him. I'm blaming you, missing Lee. 3:38:32.520 --> 3:38:35.840 I cannot blame him that. I'm blaming you because April 3:38:36.080 --> 3:38:38.520 Crocket hit me. It was like, do you know you 3:38:38.600 --> 3:38:40.560 have you have to tell you on yourself? Of course, 3:38:40.600 --> 3:38:43.480 I know, you know. He goes. You know they're outside 3:38:43.520 --> 3:38:45.960 and I'm going, this is no way and I know 3:38:46.080 --> 3:38:47.640 it's other spots. 3:38:48.040 --> 3:38:51.280 No, no, no, no, I believe it was him sending 3:38:51.320 --> 3:38:53.400 the wrong address. I'm blaming him all on every day. 3:38:53.560 --> 3:38:58.520 I'm blaming the Dominican guy. Thank you so much, though, 3:38:58.560 --> 3:38:59.920 thank you so much. Just take a picture. 3:39:00.080 --> 3:39:03.920 Yeah. Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production hosts 3:39:04.000 --> 3:39:07.080 and executive producers n O r E and DJ E 3:39:07.320 --> 3:39:12.840 FN Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, 3:39:13.160 --> 3:39:16.800 or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us 3:39:16.840 --> 3:39:19.440 for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by Yours Truly, 3:39:19.600 --> 3:39:22.280 dj e FN and n O r E. 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