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Speaker 2: Finally we're here Drink Chances, the fourth Annual Black Inspector

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be there, No, we's gonna tear it up.

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Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of black people there, so

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Speaker 1: you listen to Deep Black as Hell. Hey from twenty

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Speaker 2: I know how this happened. I've been going there. It's

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Speaker 1: He is Drink Chance Mother Bucky podcast man. He's a

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Speaker 1: legendary queens rapper. He's agreed as your Boy n O

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Speaker 1: r E. He's a Miami Hill pop lioneer up as

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Speaker 1: dj e f N. Together they drink it up with

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Speaker 1: some of the biggest players you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: and the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one

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Speaker 1: source for drunks Drin Chance days New Year's Eve, It's

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Speaker 1: time for Drink Champs, drink up the would it good?

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Speaker 2: Be hoping He's wants to be It's your boy in

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Speaker 2: O r E. One of his dj E f N

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Speaker 2: This Militam Crazy world Y.

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour makes the load.

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Speaker 2: When I tell you, this man is an icon, and

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Speaker 2: this man is a legend. This man has shaped He

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Speaker 2: has made so many babies throughout this world because the

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Speaker 2: music that they was making babies too. He was making

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Speaker 2: it for you for decades and decades and decades. They

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Speaker 2: said he grabbed a guitar at three.

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Speaker 1: Years old and was making beats. Then I'm making that.

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Speaker 1: This man, this is a legend of legend uh.

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Speaker 2: From from from all the icons that he's worked with,

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Speaker 2: and he's this is something that.

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Speaker 1: I've been wanting to do for so many years.

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Speaker 2: When we started to show, we said that we wanted

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Speaker 2: to give people that paved the way before us.

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Speaker 1: And this is a legend. This is this is a

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Speaker 1: real icon. This is a person that when you look

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Speaker 1: up I'm sorry to say it, when you look up music,

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Speaker 1: his picture, shit is gonna be right there. Music not music,

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Speaker 1: not hip hop, not R and B music, period.

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Speaker 2: This man has done the way. He's the reason why

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Speaker 2: most of us is here. And we won't give you

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Speaker 2: your flowers today. We want to show you how much

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Speaker 2: you mean to us. And in case you don't know

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Speaker 2: who we're talking about, the one, the only, the impeccable,

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Speaker 2: motherfucking Before I get into everything, right, I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 2: you which is a great moment with me. Right, Me

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Speaker 2: and you are watching Pharrell's movie.

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Speaker 1: Right, We're both at the premiere, sitting in the cluster,

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Speaker 1: sitting across from each other. And this is how I

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Speaker 1: know you're a real person.

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Speaker 2: I saw a genuine love when you saw him on

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Speaker 2: that screen. I got I was sitting right directly behind you,

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Speaker 2: so I got to see you, like how I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at EFN right now And I saw you and then

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Speaker 2: look and the only of the time I've ever saw this.

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Speaker 1: In life, I mean in music business. Let me just

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Speaker 2: That was one time I went with with Knaves and

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Speaker 2: he watched rock him perform and I saw the joy

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Speaker 2: in Nod's face watching his his Uh that's his leader, right,

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Speaker 2: that's his and this is your protegect. This is I

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Speaker 2: know you, your humble guy. So yeah, but I saw the

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Speaker 2: happiness in your face. I got to see it, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, that is so that is so rare

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Speaker 2: and seldom that people like.

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Speaker 1: You show that love. You know what I'm saying, trying

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Speaker 1: to say like like like I sincerely saw that. Man.

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Speaker 1: I was so happy. I'm always forever proud. And then

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Speaker 1: I remember I remember me talking to you and I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, I didn't know what the fuck

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Speaker 1: I was doing in this movie and you said me, neither, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did five years before.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's take it from there. Did you know

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Speaker 2: this was a Lego movie? Because I didn't know until

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Speaker 1: I was told it was an animated movie. Ain't that

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Speaker 1: what I told you? They never said lego, They said

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Speaker 1: animated an Okay, just understand. When the trailer came out,

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I mean same thing. Somebody called

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Speaker 1: changed clothes in the movie and it's like you real life,

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Speaker 2: I had a different clubs. So it's so dope. Like

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Speaker 2: you know, I've been we've been doing this. We're going

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Speaker 1: Next month. And what I like to do is, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I got to say when I've said this a

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Speaker 2: couple of times, but what I got to say is

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Speaker 2: your history. It's probably the richest history I've ever like

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Speaker 2: really like googled and like just got because like you

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Speaker 2: control the music.

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Speaker 1: For maybe four decades. Yeah, I've been in for this

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Speaker 2: This is your forty year, right, And I'm looking and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, bro, you know what's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember not knowing you, like since I was

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Speaker 1: since you were aware of music, since I was aware.

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Speaker 1: That's what's crazy. I feel like I know you my

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Speaker 1: whole life, and I know I don't, but the same thing.

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Speaker 1: That's how Yeah, I feel the same way because you

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Speaker 1: coming for else's right. That's right, grandchildren, that's right, that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's what that's That was the beauty part of seeing

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Speaker 1: met Forever when.

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Speaker 2: That Pharrell took a chance on me and I took

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Speaker 2: a chance on him, right, right, But let's take it

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Speaker 2: to the beginning now, right.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people credit you from Virginia, right, and.

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Speaker 2: They say that he's a lot of people don't know

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Speaker 2: not only you from Harlem, You're from the part of

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Speaker 2: Harlem that probably ever existed.

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Speaker 1: The pictures with you. Rich Water went to high school today, Okay,

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Speaker 1: talking about because a lot of people don't know that, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, that was your peer, that was literally your peer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's my big brother. You know. When we

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Speaker 1: gamble Okay, yeah, I heard your gambler high school me Defer.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, how about Aceptford is like my nephew, Yes,

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Speaker 1: except which is deeper. I went to school with his father. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. So all of the fathers, you know, our sons,

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Speaker 1: you know ya, no problem, we were taking Deferd used

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Speaker 1: got a Starbucks. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay. Then I moved

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Speaker 1: to Jersey in Biggie's old house. Oh, in Great Neck right, okay,

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Speaker 1: so how how how does because I want to I

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Speaker 2: People know who Rich Parter and like our pole is now, right,

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Speaker 2: were you ever like were you ever felt like you

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Speaker 2: were in like danger or like just being around them all?

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Speaker 1: They were just irregular, that's my guy. Yep, I'll poll

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna say alcohols. It's twenty nineteen game. So

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Speaker 1: when he came at the Apollo, okay, he came to

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Speaker 1: it's like my brother, I mean rich Porter. Him and

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Speaker 1: put about two million dollars in my trunk that California

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Speaker 1: pulled up on my brolly. He said, take this briefcase

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Speaker 1: So up when you know, we always had that. That's

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Speaker 1: me to grab one to. I had to create that

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Speaker 1: and that's what I did. I created jobs for people. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I created places for kids to go and things for

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Speaker 1: definitely worked. I had shoot Allen Iverson was on my

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Speaker 1: Celebrity Basketball I remember, I remember, and uh, Kevin gott

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Speaker 1: When I went down there, it was just nobody was

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Speaker 1: like Jimmy Buffett, you know, and I just said, you

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Speaker 1: want to go back to New York. I was like, nah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just staying here. But they thought we was drug dealers. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think we had every two And we had to

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Speaker 1: performing him at Slickorid performing and I had to kind

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00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: of find my way. And when I quit school, I

427
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: ended up working for my uncle but also performing at

428
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: the same time, and they built a studio for me

429
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: at the rooftop because I.

430
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: Heard a story. I believe you told it. You didn't

431
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: even have a board when you started out. You would

432
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: go and learn.

433
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: At everybody's studio, going everybody studio and the program just beats.

434
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: Put it on a cassette, take it with me, and

435
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: just play it for everybody. So until I was able

436
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: to afford a drum machine, I was just doing that

437
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: first drum machine I was on was uh, the Oberheim

438
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: d X weight. So I want to come tell all

439
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: the trappers out there. I was doing trap before them,

440
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: making records with like go see the Doctor eight away,

441
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: and you know, we didn't have it washing, nothing sinking,

442
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: so we used that punch to make two drum machines

443
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: sink together. Wild You young motherfuckers need to listen. You

444
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: know you know how hard that ship is. Go ahead.

445
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That was the That was the first I know,

446
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: but sides doing Dougie Fresh the show, the show, I

447
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: didn't really know where it was going. But when the

448
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: show came out, even though you know, I didn't get

449
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: any credit for it, because like I said, I had

450
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: started in my eyes. I just wanted to record play

451
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: on the radio and you know, be a part of something.

452
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: And that's how I started evolving in Harlem. And then

453
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: everybody came to me from Brooklyn, the Queens and everybody

454
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: would come to my projects and I would make records

455
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: for everybody. So I'm bouncing around a little bit, like

456
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: you said, I need to ask you this. I believe

457
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: I see Jermaine depreciate this. He said that New Addition

458
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: is the greatest group of all time. Then they questioned them.

459
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: They said, because each one of of these members solo

460
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: went platinum, do you believe that statement? I believe they

461
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: are the greatest group of all times. Are we making

462
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: no noise for that? Yeah? Okay? And why I say

463
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: that is because them together is a nucleus. And now

464
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: you see them all together. Nobody's standing up to that

465
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: and their group that got back together and stayed together

466
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: because they'd seen the business. They stood on business. If

467
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: other groups would stand on business, we would have a nucleus.

468
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: And we have groups back. Wow. Right now it's the

469
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: recession of groups. Now we're leaning towards we're leaning on

470
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: the legends. Wow. You know. And they're the legends that

471
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: is really setting the example, you know for the other legends.

472
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: You know, all these groups breaking up is like one

473
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: twelve Now it's just twelve. Damn. I didn't know that,

474
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, really damn what they doing? Then you

475
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: got groups that lost members like High five. Yeh, I'm

476
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: putting them back together. Yes, intro. So there's a lot

477
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: of groups out there that are legend groups, but there's

478
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: no new groups. Okay. I thought Day twenty six was

479
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: going to be you know the next next big thing. Agree,

480
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: but it happen so for real, so real. It was

481
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: definitely a dope group developed by Heavy d and and

482
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: uh Eddie F and the crew. I think what it

483
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: is is, you know, it was the artist development.

484
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: Artists development is missing in the industry. Yeah, I agree

485
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: with that one mean thing.

486
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: When we had I was artist developed. This is a

487
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: lot for Oh yeah, it was about a year my

488
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: first I went to media coach. My first media coach

489
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: was Wendy Williams. Wow. No, hell, that's why she didn't

490
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: talk about me. Damn, oh you never have. That's like

491
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: my sister, okay, like in a good way. That's Whinny

492
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: Williams gave me my fortieth birthday party wow in California.

493
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: And my second media coach was Nelson George. Wow. My

494
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: third was the guy who gave me the name new

495
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: Jack Swing and that's Byry Michael Cooper who wrote and

496
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: co wrote New Jack City. M So I was around

497
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people. It was just you know, creating me,

498
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like this guy would like

499
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: pressure me to uh give a name to my music,

500
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: like call my music something, and I didn't have no idea.

501
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, this is your second session, your

502
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: third session, you better have a name. I didn't have

503
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: a name. He's like, I'm going to give you a name,

504
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: and he said you should use new jack Swing because

505
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: you're the new kid on the block swinging it. Wow.

506
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: And that's how I got the name of just He said,

507
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: run with it. You'll thank me later. He's in my

508
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: book too. The whole genre was that, let me tell

509
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: you something, the genre and still today, you know, technically

510
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know they're doing the jack

511
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: swing right, So a fusion. We one man of acent

512
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: googled it and had it plan and we didn't realize

513
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: how many workds you. We were doubting. It was like,

514
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: wait a minute, he couldn't have did that too.

515
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: Do you understand how many Do you understand how how

516
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: many lives you change? Like we're all sitting here just amazed,

517
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: like all of us, come, let's just give it like

518
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: this is here.

519
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: We were so I believe you are first guest that

520
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: came a little late, and we was like, we do

521
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: not care. Whenever he shows up. We're cool with it.

522
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: But do you understand how many lives here you changed?

523
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: To do this, and I'm not.

524
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 2: I'm not even getting to Bobby. I'm not even getting

525
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: to Michael yet. I'm not kidding.

526
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm just getting into you and your groups. For me,

527
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: I don'm doing on my past, all right. I don't

528
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: do it on my past. I try to forget about

529
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: it so I can keep going, right, So it's like

530
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: I'm almost famous, right, That's how I go every day.

531
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: I just think about that. Okay, what was it was?

532
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: What it is now? It matters, you know, if I

533
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: can change and continue changing lives, that's what matters for me,

534
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: and I am you know. It's like I can go

535
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: anywhere and I can live anywhere and something gonna come

536
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: out of it. Never I don't know. I just feel

537
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: like the most high is like, all right, you're gonna

538
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: go here, You're gonna live here, and you're gonna do

539
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: something here. That's what I did in Virginia. I did

540
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: it in Atlanta. I was in Atlanta before the village.

541
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: I heard second home, second home, but Vegas, California. Living

542
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: in Atlanta was one of the things that I said,

543
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, I want to do and I want to

544
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: kind of more often exfuse the music and bring everybody

545
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: together try blue jack swing, just put it all together.

546
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: And I wound up working with a lot of people there.

547
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: But the main thing was challenging to me was moving

548
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: to Korea. Wait a second, you moved to Korea, Yeah,

549
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: to do K pop. I mean I knew there was

550
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people from out here that was influencing

551
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: that whole movement. You were, and you told me I

552
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: was my daughter. You a whole conversation. I got listen

553
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: to Golden every day. Those records, they are amazing. And

554
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: when I went out there, it was two thousand and seven.

555
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I went out there and got robbed rob. I'm gonna

556
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: tell you how not rob Like onto my head. They stick.

557
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: They got some shree guys out there. They're ill business people. Yeah,

558
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: they are really ill. So when we went out there, right,

559
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: I did a whole I had I think every news channel.

560
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: We did a press conference. The reason why because I

561
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: didn't know how big my music was out there. K

562
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: pop is new jack swing. And then I get out

563
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: there like not knowing anything about the business aspect, like

564
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: the stock game, and I'm out there like they give

565
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: me half a million dollars do this, and you know,

566
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: and I'm doing it but not. I finally had like

567
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: a few meetings with the CEOs and CEO's like when

568
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: come with us, So I'll go with s some entertainment,

569
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: not knowing that when they put put me on the books,

570
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: they stock went up. I didn't ask the stock to

571
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: get stuck. Dumbest ship out. But I still made a

572
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: lot of money out there. I still made ways and

573
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: now you're here Teddy Rally is a part of you know,

574
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: k pop. It's responsible. But when I went out there,

575
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: let me tell you I got I went out there,

576
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: did this whole press conference. There's a company I ever

577
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: heard of, a company called ten Cent. They're like Rockerfeller

578
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: in Korea. Yes, they're like the South Korea big yeah,

579
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: South Yeah, but they're like the biggest when it comes

580
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: to they're like Viacom Okay, wow, okay. They own everything

581
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: out there, the karaoke machines, all of that stuff. Like

582
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: you go in the mall, you know how we get

583
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: those the picture taking things, karaoke machines, all the malls. Yeah,

584
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: that's big out there. That makes more money than anything. Wow.

585
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: So I'm out there and they were like, we'd like

586
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: to figure out doing a movie with you, and I

587
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: was like, great, let's do it. You know, they said,

588
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: what you gonna call it? I want to call it

589
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: Asia A star in Asia. They take my shir and

590
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: ran with it. I was like, oh, they just took

591
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: the idea. They trademark, did they trade magt It was

592
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: like wow? And then oh, I didn't know he was

593
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: going there me out here out there. They gave him

594
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: two million dollars and he shared nothing with me. I

595
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: come back, I get forty grand and I'm on my way.

596
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: Why did ten cents come to try and sue me?

597
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: Because they thought I was doing the movie and they

598
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: gave him the money. He did the contract. So I

599
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: had to prove myself to them, saying, listen, I'm I'm

600
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: a man of honor. I would never take your money.

601
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: They knew somebody was doing dude and got married on

602
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: their money for the wife. And this is the guy

603
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: that brought you out the originally yes so, and the

604
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: same guy who was taking my publishing because we had

605
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: did records for artists. Oh god, we did records for

606
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: this artist's name. Uh, what's his name? I think it's Rain. No.

607
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: Rain is the guy who's like usher out here okay,

608
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: so we did these records. This company took out publishing

609
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: and mechanic rights. I didn't know that ASCAP does not

610
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: exist in Korea. They have their owns. The company is

611
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: called Kumka Oh. And these guys was publishing our songs

612
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: and copyrighting our songs. We went through Korean music book

613
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: camp check this out. We had already went there, came

614
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: back and me and my guys did. We did these

615
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: records for them. They paid us nice money and everything right.

616
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: It was like, yo, where's all we issues? Like what

617
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: we It's like, Yo, let's go back. I said, Yo,

618
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: we ain't going back to start no trouble. We're gonna

619
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: go back and say it's not fear and hopefully it

620
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: will meet somebody who can help us. And that's how

621
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: we met as some entertainment and they help us get

622
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: every publishing, mechanical rights and all of our rights back. Wow.

623
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: On a condition of me staying for two weeks to

624
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: do some music with the artists. Two weeks turn into

625
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: two months, two months turn into two years. Living in Korea,

626
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: it's like, we enjoy your music. We want can you stay,

627
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: We'll get your house, We'll get you They got us

628
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: a building. Wow. We built the studios and the building

629
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: and we were there for two years. Let me find

630
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: out you speak Korean? Now, how far to at all?

631
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: I was translating. Oh, now they got the you're talking

632
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: and you can talk right about yah. Sure that's right.

633
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: And I was, you know, getting I had my translator

634
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: on my phone and that's how I got around. And

635
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: I didn't have to go in too many places. I

636
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: stayed in the studio. I live in the studio, okay.

637
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: So when I was out there, I had no relationships.

638
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: I just I was in that studio and they thought

639
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: I was a martiroom because I would be in that

640
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: studio from ten to ten in the morning. They would

641
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: be coming into work and he's like, he's still here.

642
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: So they built me a bedroom in the actual office.

643
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: Goddamn it. Wow, that's hard. So it's safe to say

644
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: that you open those doors for a lot of people

645
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: over here too. Well. They were doing what they're doing anyway, right,

646
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of collaboration have to do it

647
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: for it to be introduced. Now, I can't say that

648
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: because you had what's my guy, Jay Park? Jay is

649
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: a Jay Park. He was doing it. He came over here,

650
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: but I went over there, and when I went over there,

651
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: it was just I was working with every broup. We

652
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: had five six number one records, and we place stove

653
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: for forty forty songs. So I was pretty much living

654
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: comfortable out there, and in my mind was kind of

655
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: learning the culture. It's kind of getting together while the

656
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: record business over here was getting it together because it

657
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: was a recession. But what years are is this exactly

658
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: when I went over there to live, it was twenty

659
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: ten to twenty twelve, and yeah, that's when we had

660
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: the whole real estate crash out here. That's when the system.

661
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's what streaming, streaming is interesting kindas

662
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: and all of that.

663
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: When I came back was when Heavy D passed away,

664
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: and that's what made me say it, I'm coming back

665
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: to America. I moved to Atlanta then asked my sister,

666
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: just find me a place. It's like where you want

667
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: to live, gated community. I said, no, I want to

668
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: live next to you. They found me a place and

669
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: I lived there for a little while and kind of

670
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: outgrown it and moved into a house, you know, big house,

671
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: and stayed down there for a while. Atlanta. Yeah, okay,

672
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: how do you feel like was that? Was there a

673
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: culture shock living out there? I was assuming that's your

674
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: first time living outside of the States, was it. No,

675
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: I lived in London. I lived in London. My earlier

676
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: is when I was working in Cood and the Ocean.

677
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: We did all like I'll go see the dots. How

678
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: do you like me? Now? Those records we did in

679
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: London we did at Battery Studios because draft records. We

680
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: don't realize how much of those records were made. It

681
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: was a battery studio. I didn't know Battery Studios was

682
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: located in London. They have one in London and one

683
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: in New York. Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't. I

684
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: didn't hold so damn that's fucking me up. So that's

685
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: where y'all you and hold D recorded that, like we

686
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: did first album, second album. Then just legendary, I see,

687
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: because I can't fathom this because because I lived there,

688
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: like we would spend three to maybe six months. But

689
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't much of a culture shock being in in

690
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: London versus here as it was. And me tell you why,

691
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: driving on the wrong Yeah, we didn't drive. I was like, yeah,

692
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm not getting into no accident. But I'm used to

693
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: driving on outside. So when that happened, you know, we

694
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: were have a driver. They gave us the driver clip

695
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Calder Clock Calder was a guy who was the first

696
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: guy to see me make a b wow. I was

697
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: making how you like me now? And when he came

698
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: in the room, he was he was behind his dark

699
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, tenthed glass watching me. Were you using? I

700
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: was using the MP because they had one. There wasn't mine. No,

701
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't about to say it wasn't MP. Was the

702
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: behind the d X and no was an MP. It

703
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: was I can't imagine. I had a sepler the s P,

704
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: No was it spee and but it was this. I

705
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: ain't had no drum machine on the Ford one, so

706
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: I was banging out on everybody's joint, you know. But

707
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: when I was there, they had every drum machine. And

708
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: I made that back and he was just watching. I've

709
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: seen his head just going. And then he walked in

710
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: the room. He called me another name, no Clive.

711
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: Okay, ceo, because I keep looking at his glasses and

712
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: I was looking at you.

713
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: He's trying to imitate I keep looking bad. He called

714
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: me my partner. My partner name is Levor and he

715
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: said Levor. I said no. He said, what's is your name?

716
00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: I said, I'm Teddy Riley, Teddy Wally, Teddy that kind

717
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: of sounds huh sounds good good, Yeah, Teddy Rally. He said,

718
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: so you make the beats. I said, yeah, I make

719
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: the beats. He said, can you excuse me a second?

720
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: I says yeah, sure. He went upstairs and called Barry Weiss,

721
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: John Records as well, and Callie, all of them. I said,

722
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: he got them all on the phone. He told me this,

723
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: He said, I got them on the phone and asked her.

724
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: I said, who's Teddy Rowley? And and I guess they

725
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: answer is Teddy Rally is one of the guys. You

726
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: know he works with them, He works with He said,

727
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: you guys know he makes the beats, and he's like nobody.

728
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: It was crickets. And he said, I told them, if

729
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: you guys, when he comes back to the States, if

730
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: you don't have him in that office making a deal,

731
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: somebody's getting fired. And I had a meeting with him.

732
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: I went down there by myself and didn't have no lawyer,

733
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: no nothing. It's my first meeting with him and that

734
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: was how I got my first hundred thousand dollars two

735
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: zumber and that was my first publishing deal. God damn me,

736
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: that's wild. Makes a noise for you want to do

737
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: quick Time of Slim, but you gotta explain that. Let's

738
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: do it. Let's get a designate a drinker. Okay, yeah, yeah,

739
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: because you don't have to drink. Okay, okay, you can, Okay,

740
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: we'll get something. Get somebody like you. Yeah, my nephew.

741
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh ship damn he do you under the bus like that?

742
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: I like that. He what I would do with my nephew.

743
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know. He told me. Okay, okay, okay, okay, drinking,

744
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm ting there. Yeah, So we're.

745
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: Gonna ask him, and you know, can you break down

746
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: the game?

747
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: So this is our drinking game, okay, and we're gonna

748
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: give you two choices. If you pick one, we don't drink, right,

749
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: But if you say both are neither, like you really

750
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: don't want to answer. I plead the fifth, You plead

751
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: the fifth. We're drinking everybody's dress, but really we just

752
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: want stories out of it.

753
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna lie to you. I feel like

754
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: Teddy is a great person. He's not going on one

755
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: to answered every sense I forget.

756
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: No, it was a great dad. He answered everyone. So

757
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: Dad here he answered everything. Don't yeah, he asted everyone politically.

758
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: So, nephew, I'm not you want did you really ask

759
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: for tiger and we're doing yoghe No, no, no, no,

760
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: he's asking you don't want to tag?

761
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: You don't. I don't want. No, nephew, nephew, you don't want.

762
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: You don't want to tag a ball. I ain't gonna lie.

763
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. We're gonna as if you want

764
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: late Dominican mamajuana. Oh wow, okay, okay, so you ready

765
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: get wait, hold on, it's get You got a couple

766
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: of shot glasses from Yeah, that's good the first then okay,

767
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: backing up, this is this is great, by the way,

768
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: for a couple.

769
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: I have to take the first question because I probably

770
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: think you're the only person on earth that could probably

771
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: answer this question.

772
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: This is one of the biggest on our show. Okay,

773
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: let's do it not too not too heavy for.

774
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go in

775
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: there because I'm gonna go I'm gonna go ahead and

776
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: go in there I'm gonna do.

777
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: I'll take the first one.

778
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: This is gonna be too great, okay, Michael Jackson or Prince.

779
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: And we need stories too.

780
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe you're the only person who sufficiently answer

781
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: this question.

782
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, Michael Jackson, of course, which I want me

783
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: to tell you. And I feel like you definitely got

784
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: print stories. I do, okay, But Michael, I have more

785
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: stories and substance. And why I say Michael, I came

786
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: ready for the Michael answer. Now you know you just

787
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: gave him my answer. But why say Michael Is because

788
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: Michael wasn't just uh an artist. He was a visionary

789
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: humanitarian well model And now everybody's see now today how

790
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: much of a role model he was to the kids.

791
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: He's vindicated in a lot, yes, And it took us

792
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: this long to really find out all the things that

793
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: he did to really save humanity, you know, humanity. And

794
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that principal, you know, was there. I

795
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: pressed did a lot of things, but not what Michael

796
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: who have done, and the chances that he took just

797
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: for all of us. So I have to say him

798
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: in always, not just as an artist. I have to

799
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: say him he's the one in every way, and I'm

800
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: sure you always say the same things.

801
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 2: This is why we want to ask you. This is

802
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: a this is like still on the same question, but

803
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: a little bit off. We had what I am on here,

804
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: what I am telling this story, and he goes famous.

805
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: It's the favorite story.

806
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: We did not want. We did not know this was

807
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna go viral. But he was like that.

808
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: Prince kept calling excuse me, a Prince kept calling Michael

809
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 2: a meanie.

810
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Michael was called calling Michael. I gotta

811
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: feel that you know about it. I know about the

812
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: whole thing. I was the first one was VH that's right,

813
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: and the big TV before where I am and everybody

814
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: because Michael told me this story okay, and showed me

815
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: and gave me the v H s.

816
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: There's a VHA talk about your TV that because I

817
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: heard Michael.

818
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: Gave you a t No, that's another thing lost. Okay,

819
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: wait a minute, James Brown concert, Okay, okay, I was

820
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: the first one with it. We spoke about this on

821
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: the from Michael before anybody even thought about it. Michael

822
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: told me everything.

823
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 4: He said, you know, can I tell you about the

824
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 4: time that Prince tried to run us off the road

825
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 4: me and my family.

826
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, tell me that was what happened.

827
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it's going to Can I show it

828
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: to you? I was like, sure, what you're gonna show me? Said?

829
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna show you. Look. Look he took

830
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: the thing he put in. He pushed the VHSA. He said,

831
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: this is you can have it copies. I have copies.

832
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, So he showed me it. He

833
00:55:50,480 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: sat back. He's like, he's like, everybody my preends in

834
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: the house. Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson, come up here, Michael Jackson.

835
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: So he came up. Michael came up. He's like, gave

836
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: my hugs, and you know, did his thing. He just

837
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: killed it, did the moon walk everything. And James was

838
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: just like, wow, look at the boys. All right, So

839
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: that's Michael Coat. So Michael said, you know, after he

840
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: did his thing, everybody went nuts. Michael went in whispered,

841
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: and James brown ear and said, Princess an audience. He said,

842
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: what princess an audience? Oh? I got somebody else on

843
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: the audious one. He's all now thought he said, Prince

844
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: Pressed is an artist. And Prince came up and he

845
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: was on the bodyguards showeder you know, on his back,

846
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: came up and everybody's like, first of all, you don't

847
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: you could have walked up there, but Prince, you know,

848
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: he could have walked up there. It would have been

849
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: better received because everybody now is like, who's this mother's son?

850
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: But this before Instagram is Prince come up, body guy,

851
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: bring him on his stays. He goes his post and

852
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: Prince borrows the guitar from the guitar player. But he

853
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: took his glove off. He took his glove off, he

854
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: threw it in the crowd. He threw it back at him.

855
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: No ship, that was the first and then uh, he

856
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: boughted the guitar. Now the guitar don't have no distortion

857
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: because it wasn't rock music. It was changed bowl music.

858
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: So Prince was playing and he hit the no deal

859
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: they so he went. He wanted to keep, he wanted

860
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: to scream, and it didn't scream. He tried something else.

861
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Then he said, all right, let me just bust a

862
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: move on you. And the look at the to and

863
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 1: that's when he I think that's when he threw the glove.

864
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look back at it. But that's when he

865
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: threw the gloves and they threw it back at him.

866
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: Then next to you know, everything he tried just and

867
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: didn't want work right, so he said, oh, just forget

868
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: about it. I'm done. I'm gonna get that nigga, Michael,

869
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get his ass. He checked this out. He

870
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: went to go get off the stage. So he didn't

871
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: know that the light post was a prop. So he

872
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: told the light post. The post came down with him

873
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: and the bodyguard, you know, kind of saved him, took

874
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: him away. And Michael's in the back just laughing. Okay,

875
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: you see you see you laughing. He said, you know

876
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: what happened afterwards? I said, what.

877
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 4: He said, we was going on with my family was

878
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 4: leaving backstage, and always say him it was the Red

879
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 4: COVID and it's Prince.

880
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: He tried to run my whole family over. I said,

881
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: you seriously, said yeah, yeah, it it was on. After that,

882
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: that's when the whole thing was like Prince against Michael,

883
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody went to Michael's side. I got

884
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: to Mike, but I don't know Will tell it that way.

885
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: I feel like Will told us the story. After that,

886
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: it was another show show that he was at. And

887
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: but the reason why he called him because of that.

888
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: And I believe that he tricked Michael into tricking him

889
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: to his show. He had already had Print's book, but

890
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: he didn't.

891
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: Want Michael to know. And then when Michael showing up,

892
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: he said, he's a meanie. I don't know why I

893
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: made that voice. I'm so sorry. He's right, and he

894
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: used that way lies, he used that way. There's a

895
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: few people he called meanie, like it's a few people.

896
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: But uh, he said that about Prince a lot. You know,

897
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: he's a mean he's he's I can't even say man.

898
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: But because because us in hip hop, we look at

899
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: jay Z and now so we look at like, uh uh,

900
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: Drake and Kendrick right now, and we look like, Okay,

901
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: that's us who did that? We don't realize that that

902
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: should been happening those rivalry. That was the first industry

903
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: beef was Princeton Michael.

904
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: And then us and addition, I forgot you that was

905
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: the second. That was the second that was super duper

906
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: wild because I was in the middle of the whole thing.

907
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: Where was that? What was it? What's the club downtown?

908
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: It was like an Auditorium, man Center or something like

909
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: Hammi Stop, Borrow Webster Hall. It was downtown and all

910
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: I can remember it was Manhattan something man Sea. Chop

911
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: Cup Quest performed Rex and Effect perform and I performed

912
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: with them, and now we in the audience and a

913
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: fight broke out and it was one of Posse, which

914
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: is my Cruel and Trip Corp quests, and I'm up

915
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: here and yeah, nation, yes, next thing you know, I

916
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: don't know, somebody got the best of them. And then

917
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: I never knew Chop Cut quests as fighters because they

918
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: are some of the best rappers in the war. But

919
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: it's always like my crewise just wow. Right. And when

920
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: that fight broke out, all I heard was Leo saying

921
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: to me.

922
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 3: Teddy Rally, you're going to you wanna pay for this?

923
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, I didn't know who Leo was

924
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: wit what does Leo have to do?

925
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: Because Leon, it was death jam That's why I had

926
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: to put it together. Sorry, he said, You're gonna pay

927
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: for this. I was like, what did I do? You

928
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: the leader? That's how Leon sound You're the leader. I

929
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: was like wow. So I'm like, how are we gonna

930
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,479
Speaker 1: fix this? But wait, it doesn't stem from the line

931
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: that Five says in the song about New Jack Swing,

932
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: no at all, because that's what everybody always know what

933
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: that was from. But I knew that, but that was

934
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: somebody bumped. Somebody wasn't. I don't know the timeline. It

935
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: was a bump or something. Okay, I got to ask

936
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: my mother I just talked to today. We got a

937
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: huge building that we're about to uh move in on

938
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: twenty Fish Street Club, So I'm gonna ask him about

939
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: that because I never knew how that ended up. All

940
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: I knew I gotta screamed that by Leoor and I

941
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't want to meet him that way.

942
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was, but I knew he

943
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: was with Russian Depth Jam and then Russell Simmons, they

944
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: all walked up. I was like, Wow, this is deph Jam.

945
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to have no fight with them, like

946
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, so long behold. It led to us having

947
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: a meeting at the Moss on a deal it was,

948
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: and then all law school back who went to jail

949
01:04:53,880 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: because everybody had guns, and everybody had guns. I didn't

950
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: go because I was like, if I go, it's gonna

951
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: be a problem. I feel with your affiliation with Alpho

952
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: in them is no no, no, no no, So it's

953
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: not it's not We cannot say that not them. Nah,

954
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: they didn't get involved.

955
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: You've been involved with a lot of cases.

956
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: But imagine as regular fans seeing this playout, not for them.

957
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: We didn't think of rex and Effects as necessarily on

958
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: some Doug ship and question. Yeah, we were confined. Now

959
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: understood the Zoo Do Nation aspect of it, and then

960
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: then we started reading more into who was behind rexing

961
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: Effects and the crew y'all had, and then we saw

962
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: how it was going to get a little nasty. Wow.

963
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: I think we started out damn the Bloods and the

964
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: crips in the projects. Damn it. I mean why y'all

965
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: were read right now? Damn bro. But when it all happened,

966
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: shout outs, because you know, Uncle Mike conception, it's like

967
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: my uncle, No, I did you say that is your

968
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: uncle Mike exception? Yeah, you might as well say, man,

969
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: we've done a whole lot, you know, I kind of

970
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 1: He always said I saved him from you know, getting killed,

971
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: you know. And he had a meeting in New York

972
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: with the Chris Sanda Bloods and he told them. Yo.

973
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Teddy, he ate my life and

974
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: I got calls from everybody like, yo, you saved my

975
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: conception's life. We just business, and you know he basically

976
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: helped me, you know, with sharing my business. He was

977
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: a part of me working with Mike Cool Wow him

978
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: the Black Godfather and Quincy Jones. He's the one that

979
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: did all in the same game. Yeah right, yeah, that's right.

980
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I always you know, get flowers with it

981
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: do and he's one of the ones that you know,

982
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: really saved me with Jean, you know, West coast side

983
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: and then on the East coast side, my uncle owned

984
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: the rooftop. My uncle and uh affiliated with Country and

985
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: NIGGI bonds people, the council. You're the council. My oldest

986
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: brother was a part of the council. So when I

987
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: left Jean and broke up with Jean and eighty nine,

988
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 1: I know, we're jumping all over the Jean eighty nine

989
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: because we got to get back to the game. Yeah yeah,

990
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: we got it ready ready, yeah, by somebody else asking

991
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: the same thing. But when I left Geane eighty nine,

992
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: it was because of my mother. You know. My mother

993
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: was like, if you don't leave him going back to

994
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: the projects. And I wasn't having that. So when I

995
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: left him, there was a contract all my life. Oh wow,

996
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: and people were hearing about it, you know, watch out,

997
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: watch out for Geene or watch out. So of course

998
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: I have my family, and I have an incredible team,

999
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: and then I have the brothers, you know from the Moss.

1000
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: In fact, he was actually eighty six from the Moss,

1001
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, because of me. So when all that happened,

1002
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: my uncle took it upon himself, got with Nikki's people,

1003
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: and Country was the one who bought Jean, because you know,

1004
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: he kind of had a hold on jan so he went,

1005
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're familiar with uh. There's a

1006
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: place that the Italians own in Harlem call the flash

1007
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: the flash Bar. I wasn't familiar. It's only bar. Most

1008
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,839
Speaker 1: of the homes and all the projects and the buildings

1009
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: are brown and you know, beige, and this was the

1010
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: only red spot. And why they have it read because

1011
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: some people don't leave it. They die in there, almost

1012
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: like rails. I mean, I put that on rals. But

1013
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: but they called a meeting with Jean at the flash Bar.

1014
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: And when they call that meeting, my uncle called me.

1015
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: He said, you're gonna go in here. If you flinch

1016
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: or you you feel don't feel good about this, you're

1017
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: gonna leave. We're gonna stay and he's not coming out

1018
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: of here. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna follow

1019
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: the plan and I'll tell you about Alpo too. So

1020
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: I followed the plan and my uncle started the conversation.

1021
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: He said, what is this? You have a contract out

1022
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: of my nephew, and Jeanne kind of just said, I

1023
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: don't have a contract. You know, maybe somebody else that

1024
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: you know care about me and you know, felt like,

1025
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: you know he did me wrong, but they don't know.

1026
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: But if it's something that I can control, I'm going

1027
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: to control it because he's like my son. He actually

1028
01:10:52,560 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: was my godfather. So when that happened, I said to

1029
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: my uncle, we're good. He said, you go ahead. I said,

1030
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: let me speak to you. He gave me and he said,

1031
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 1: he said, what do you want? I said, don't do anything,

1032
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: but to your uncle. You're saying that no to Jane.

1033
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 1: I said that to my uncle, don't do anything. To Jane,

1034
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: don't do nothing. I believe him because sometimes it could

1035
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: be your crew. Yep. Just like posse Deep. I didn't

1036
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: do nothing with child Caught Quest, but posse Deep got

1037
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: into it. But it looks like I'm the leader because

1038
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: it is my crew, so and they were signed to me,

1039
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: so it looks like me. So I believed him, and

1040
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: long behold. Years later, Jeane Griffin and I got back together, wow,

1041
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:07,879
Speaker 1: as father and son, godfather and son. And before he passed,

1042
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, I got to you know, take him out

1043
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: of the home because he had dementia. So I got

1044
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: to take him out of the home. And in fact,

1045
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 1: that's a that's a chapter in my book about forgiveness.

1046
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you don't have forgiveness in your heart,

1047
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: you'll never leave this earth complete. Mm hm. So I

1048
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: always believe in, you know, completion. So that's what happened

1049
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: with that. But let me tell you something else that

1050
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: I'll post. Said on the radio.

1051
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I'm the one that Teddy stopped from

1052
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 4: killing Jean.

1053
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Yeah, I told him too, wow,

1054
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: because they wanted they wanted to kill So that's true,

1055
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: huh kind of true. It was true. It's true. I

1056
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: don't I just don't believe in that, you know, unless

1057
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: this by all means necessary, right, I just don't believe

1058
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: that anybody should die.

1059
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 2: But but that shows the power that you have by

1060
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: not flexing your power. But you know what I mean,

1061
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: that shows the smartness in who you are.

1062
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like I mean, coming

1063
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: from the streets and coming from the hood, you know,

1064
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: and and experienced the hustling life. And I've seen people,

1065
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: I've been in shootouts, and that's not nothing to play with,

1066
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: especially when you see your friend take a bullet, right.

1067
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: I see my friend take a bullet right, and I

1068
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: rode with uh, the guy who actually battled Biggie the

1069
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: skinny kid. I heard you. I heard you say that before.

1070
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: He the one who brought me to the game. Wow.

1071
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: We was hustling for some big timers until we had

1072
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: our own, and then they kicked me off the street.

1073
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: I protected you different blocks. I mean, they kicked me

1074
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: off Shaw for all the right reasons though, Yeah, but

1075
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: it was because they knew, Yo, he gonna be something.

1076
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: I got that in my notes the shack crew. So

1077
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: let's get on with the gate man. I don't think

1078
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: that exists today though, that kicking off for the right reason.

1079
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening anymore. Unfortunately, you know. You know,

1080
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: when I heard your story, probably the last person I've

1081
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: heard was in my hood, Kenny Anderson, Like the drug

1082
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: dealers just protected him.

1083
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 2: The drug dealers knew that he was gonna go, and

1084
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: they took him right off the streets.

1085
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: And was just like, yo, I don't think he could

1086
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: he was Kenny. I'm sorry if I'm blowing this up,

1087
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: but I don't even think he was allowed outside. Not

1088
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: in a bad way, but in a way it was like, yo,

1089
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: we see, we see you have a better life ahead

1090
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: of you, so we're gonna protect that. And like Alan

1091
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: Iverson was in that here, but that was because he

1092
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: used to play ball for my celebrity team. I believe

1093
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: they protected him the same way, you know. And and

1094
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: he had some real people around him. What what news

1095
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: in Norfolk. Everybody was behind him, you know, even myself,

1096
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, we It's like he was the guy coming

1097
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: out of Virginia. It's like everybody was being birth out

1098
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: of Virginia, you know. And I was there to really experience,

1099
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: witness and be a part of, you know, architecting that.

1100
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: So let's let's getting back to the game.

1101
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: You ready, this is by the way, this is the

1102
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 2: Dominican guy and the Columbian guy over there, just we

1103
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: just noise over there that we just assume they do cocaine.

1104
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: We don't know for We don't know for like a fact,

1105
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 2: but we think we assume it.

1106
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: Okay, for real or Timberland the same question. Yesterday I

1107
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: did a good job, didn't I practice? Now? Okay, I'm

1108
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: definitely gonna give y'all my stories on both fleets, stories

1109
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: on both Okay, Okay, Nah, I'm gonna plead the fifth Okay, yes,

1110
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: waiting you too? Money? Yeah, I don't even got one. Yeah, yeah,

1111
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. Because they both are dangerous. Yes,

1112
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: they are not to be played with, still today, still

1113
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: to the day. And I I feel like with both

1114
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: of them, you can hear record it is and not

1115
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: know as there like me, you can hear a record

1116
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 1: of mine and not his mine. And those people you

1117
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 1: do not play with. It's like you you can't just say,

1118
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: oh you can you know, stand tall with these guys.

1119
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: They still doing it. They're I love it. I don't

1120
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: see why I would put them against each other, because

1121
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: we all came up together. You know, it's so crazy.

1122
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: We went to the same church. That's crazy, now, that's

1123
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: that's pasta was h for else, cousin he passed away.

1124
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: He passed away. But yeah, but in Virginia, so you

1125
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: for all and Timberland went to the same church. I

1126
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: wonder what this drew was like. Oh no, I donated.

1127
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: I donated equipment to the church, the equipment, the sound system.

1128
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: I donated to the church. In fact, because I have

1129
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: my studio before everybody, the pastor Webbin thorough Good, Bishop

1130
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: thorough Good used to do all of his sermon tapes

1131
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: at my studio. I mean, let's make some noise. So okay,

1132
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 1: you want to you need this one Black street or

1133
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: guy said that none of them no no, no, no,

1134
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 1: I ain't cleating the fifth No no, no, no, you

1135
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: know dances me. You still got to drop it. Why

1136
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: because you basically said both of them. Yeah, that's what

1137
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: drinks me? Why say me? Because developing both groups and

1138
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: being a part part of both groups, and then you know,

1139
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: stepping out of it because you've done it for so

1140
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: long and realize that you know, in your relationship right,

1141
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: and you realized why you left her damn when you

1142
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: got back with her, Oh ship damn. I knew why

1143
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: I left her alone. It's the same situation. Well, guy

1144
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: or black Street, that's on you because you know I've

1145
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: seen you say that these guys don't like you, right,

1146
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: that's true. It's I know they ain't got love, they

1147
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: don't never had love. Wait what talking about? I'm sorry

1148
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: what never had love? And I'll tell you why love?

1149
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: It's an action, okay for me? You guys, show me

1150
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: because I'm showing you I major your first big money

1151
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: you have ever made your whole entire life. And if

1152
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: I don't get the love from that and then give you,

1153
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: I gift you publishing because you ain't like nothing, Wow,

1154
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna go and bite my back out.

1155
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: That's how I say what I say. You know that's

1156
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: not street ordinance street ordinances. And then you want to

1157
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: you want to go solo. I had your publishing, I

1158
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: had everything. I'll give it back to you. Who would

1159
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: you do if someone gave you a whole life that

1160
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: appreciate that? No appreciation, That's what I meant. There's no

1161
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: appreciation and you're still being able to eat. I can

1162
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: stop it. I would never do that, right, but I'm

1163
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: kind of thinking about it. It's a thought. You know why,

1164
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: because if you're going to continue stopping what I would

1165
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: like to do with my music, with your two or

1166
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: three percent on the publisher side, you know, two or

1167
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: three percent can stop you, they can block you. But

1168
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: we're about to change that. It's a new legislations that's

1169
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 1: about to drop where if you ain't got a substantial

1170
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: amount of publishing, you get your little percentage because the

1171
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: people with this substantial amount are the ones that control

1172
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: the copyrights. Nothing you can do about it, and that's

1173
01:21:53,800 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 1: being it's going in the legislations. So now that I

1174
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: owe my publisher, right, I just got it. You just

1175
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: got it, just got it? How many just got it that?

1176
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: You know? How twenty three? Really? Because it's thirty five

1177
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: years and then they're doing the captions. We did the

1178
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: first I think three hundred something songs, and now it's

1179
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: the next three hundred something songs, and then it's gonna

1180
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: keep going. I have a thousand songs. And yeah, did

1181
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: you say four thousand songs? I'm sorry, no, no, no,

1182
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: I said over one thousands, oh one thousand songs. Yeah,

1183
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: Holy moly, I don't even know how that works. I

1184
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: I think I was the producer like Tupac. Tupac made

1185
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: a song every day, you know what I'm saying, If

1186
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: not more, I did like four or five. You know,

1187
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 1: I was just making records for any and everybody. As

1188
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: I said before, I was just one of my music

1189
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: out there and I had to make a lot of it.

1190
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: So one gonna go, right, but not knowing that, you

1191
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: know a lot of them would go. So yeah, let's

1192
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: keep it going, let's keep coming going. You just I'm

1193
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: just so happy. I'm sorry paid him full or Juice

1194
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: Movies paid in full. Mm hmm, I get it. I

1195
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: mean why because somehow I'm like, I'm in there, you're close. Yeah,

1196
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: you ride around the corner from there. I lived right

1197
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: around the corner from with everything, and they used to

1198
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: come up to the rooftop, you know, and we all

1199
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 1: used to just we we're the ones like we would chart,

1200
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: but we would do a bunch of stuff together. It's

1201
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: just they wouldn't let me. They wouldn't let me hustle.

1202
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: We do anything together, but you know, have fun. I

1203
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: never had to pay for anything with them. Well, they

1204
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: did right by you. Absolutely Next one, okay, analog or

1205
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: digital of course, you know it Analog all day. Analog

1206
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna say anahog And why I'll tell you on

1207
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: the technical side. Why analog is uh, how you would say?

1208
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: It's the warmth, the warmth, the warmth, Yes of music.

1209
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: Now we can go even deeper. I would love for

1210
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: it to go back to analog and uh, four three

1211
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: to two frequency wave. Do y'all know about that? Now

1212
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, I don't know what. Four three to

1213
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: two is the way we should be listening to music.

1214
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: So when you hear four three to two records, it

1215
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: will make you relax. This music doesn't make us relax.

1216
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes we catch headaches and we're not supposed to four

1217
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: three to two. You listen to a Beatles song, it's

1218
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: four three two, Or go back to a Michael Jackson

1219
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: the Jackson five song, like ABC, it was a four

1220
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: to three to two instead of four to four one.

1221
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Four four one is the frequency that makes us, you know, laugh, cry, fight,

1222
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: catch headache, the press. Right, it's all the things it

1223
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: does to you. We shouldn't be having. Well, four three

1224
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: to two when you listen to it's like we're in

1225
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: tune for that. We're in tune. We're in tune for

1226
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: four three two makes sense. I always like to mention

1227
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: DJ Quick had said something about, yeah, that's the analog

1228
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: we speak four three too, absorbing the energy also in

1229
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: that studio in the room, and like it absorbs that

1230
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: And that's what I like analog.

1231
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 2: I like analog because if we had to work with

1232
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 2: each other, I would have to come to your studio.

1233
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: You would have to come to my studio. We have

1234
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: to bring an eight inch rail what was it called?

1235
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 2: And when you were listening, So I always say that,

1236
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 2: and I kind of like sound like the older dude

1237
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: in the room when I say that ship, because I'm like, yo,

1238
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: the music sounds better because we had we we like,

1239
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: if we didn't like each other, you would hear that

1240
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: ship on the record like we were there, like all

1241
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,759
Speaker 2: that music. When people say that it's the great Erawell

1242
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 2: Golden era, guess what that music was made with you

1243
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 2: and the producer in the room together, as opposed to

1244
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: right now.

1245
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: It's like, if I have to persist something to a soundtrack,

1246
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: you could just you could just you could send it

1247
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: to me. I'm me and you have never even met,

1248
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: and I'm laying the verse. You don't really co sign

1249
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 1: my verse. You gotta check, I gotta check, and we

1250
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: both just like fucking like it's like whatever, that wasn't

1251
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 1: like that, And I'm sorry to sound like the older

1252
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 1: guy in the room. Sorry, I know how back because

1253
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: we say back in my day and I don't mean it.

1254
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't mean it like that. But what I'm trying

1255
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: to tell you is like when, but now we can

1256
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: look at the people that said that and understand why

1257
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: they said back in understand But these classic records that

1258
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: like listen, like again, we're looking at your disography and

1259
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: it just keeps going and I cannot see these records

1260
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: being produced without you in the room, with these people

1261
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: making it. You have you had to be like like

1262
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: I like and.

1263
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 2: Then I'm like, I'm like, you said something earlier and

1264
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna get back to quick time of slant, but

1265
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: you said something earlier.

1266
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: It was like these guys don't have a.

1267
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 2: Sound, but they have a sound like so like you

1268
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: were just talking about Timbaland and Pharrell, right, and I

1269
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: relate that to like DJ Premier, like things like that, Jermi,

1270
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: you can you can you can say that's a sound

1271
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 2: for d J p May, but then DJ May would

1272
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 2: do something for Christina Aguilera and you'll be like, I

1273
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 2: don't see I don't hear him doing it.

1274
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1275
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 2: So it's like, so that's the same thing with you,

1276
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 2: like like you can work with anybody, Like is that

1277
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 2: something that you did deliberately?

1278
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: I was sort of like how Mike Tyson say, I

1279
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: will fight anybody. I would work with anybody. I work

1280
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 1: with Tom Jones. It's not unusual, well to be love.

1281
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: I worked with him. I work with Billy Ocean. I

1282
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: work with Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown, but that's not my

1283
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: personal that's not my alley. Yeah, but not a Billy Ocean,

1284
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: not a Jane Child, right, don't want to fall in

1285
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: love trying to turn to pop record, pop rock record

1286
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: black you know what I'm saying, Like it was nothing

1287
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: and she she's a white girl, she's Caucasian. I'm like,

1288
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: there's nothing about that record. The remix I was, I was,

1289
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 1: that was I was getting my money up because I

1290
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: was broke. That's when I left Jane. He took everything,

1291
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: like you know, like Kelly's manager, you know, when he

1292
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: took everything. I was stuck with twenty dollars in a

1293
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: platinum American Express that was given to me by one

1294
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,799
Speaker 1: of the group members. I signed and I was joking

1295
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: that card and she gave me the card and she said,

1296
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna need it. I ain't know what I was

1297
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna need it for. And shit, I was stuck at

1298
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: the airport with twenty dollars and I called her. I said,

1299
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna have to come stay with you

1300
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: until I can get back to get my family. She's like,

1301
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: you remember that car gave you that? She was joking

1302
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: it was a Platinum Americans under her name. No, it's

1303
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: in my name. I was how you say I was

1304
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: under her I'm saying it was her account, but her account.

1305
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 1: She gave me my own card. That's why you are

1306
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: going to need it. I said, why Whate'm I needed

1307
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 1: for it? She said, just put it, keep it, do

1308
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: not get rid of it. And I never got rid

1309
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: of that card. And I was at the airport trying

1310
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: to get a ticket with the GR production card that

1311
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: me and Jean. I had two GR cards GR cards

1312
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: and none of them worked. She was like, no, you

1313
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: got another form of payment. It's like, oh, so he

1314
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: knew what I was doing. I was up in New

1315
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: York releasing everybody from their contract. Guy today Tammy Lucas

1316
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: Big Blub his solo contract. Everybody he found out, and

1317
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 1: that's probably the reason why he was trying to put

1318
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 1: a contract out my life. So with that being said,

1319
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: that card, it's the only thing I had. And when

1320
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: the car went through, you know, I gave it to

1321
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: the catch the clerk. She took the car and she said,

1322
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: your first class seat. I said, how much is on

1323
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: this card? She said, what do you want on there?

1324
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: I said, what could you do? She said, you want

1325
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand? I said, yeah, put a hundred thousand. Yeah,

1326
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, keep the party going. Sad you

1327
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: a life saver. I see you when I come back

1328
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: to New York. And I used that card to get

1329
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: my family back and actually move into a place because

1330
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, it's to pack for me, my

1331
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: daughter and my fiance at the time to move back

1332
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: into the projects. So we were there for a week

1333
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: and that's when I moved to Biggie's old place with

1334
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: the elevator that goes straight up to the bed. And

1335
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: heard about that. So back to who was Yeah, because

1336
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm a little caught up right now that we were

1337
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: great smell juices, the berries you get the berries going everywhere.

1338
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: We're still quick time. So okay, okay, ready Rich Porter

1339
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: or as rich Porter, it should have been rich Porter.

1340
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what you should have said. And then I

1341
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: was still gave you the same result. But a Z

1342
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: and Rich Porter was like the guys A Z was

1343
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: really the ones like, yeah, we can't let him hustle

1344
01:32:54,560 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: with us. So yeah, you said you okay, all right,

1345
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: come only realized buddy Corn, come on back, Heavy Deer,

1346
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Big Daddy came, come on, y'all, we got the shot.

1347
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 1: We gotta shot shot. You an't gotta take a shot.

1348
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: We take the chat. You don't have to. And I'm sorry,

1349
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm breaking a little little thing. Do we realize how

1350
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 1: dope Heavy d was though, like what like my best friend?

1351
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: But Big Daddy came, was like that's my guy, man. Yeah, no, no,

1352
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 1: both both. I'm saying both, but you gotta say both again.

1353
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna drive. You know, we see Chap pull up

1354
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: in the spread now we see ye, we know we

1355
01:33:55,960 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: know you driving here right here.

1356
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 2: Oh come back to my Yeah, and obviously you know Kaine,

1357
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing them the both, but what I was

1358
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 2: saying it was like I just like again, I'm going

1359
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 2: back into hip hop and I'm going on listening back

1360
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 2: to the and when I'm listening to Heavy d I'm.

1361
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: Like, holy shit. You know how ahead of the time

1362
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:23,560
Speaker 1: he was like holy In a lot of ways, He's like,

1363
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: let me say this heavy head in the old soul

1364
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 1: like I would do records for Heavy. I would play

1365
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: records for heavy and it will be for like Rex

1366
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: and Effect. Wow, And I don't know. He's so smooth man.

1367
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 1: The dude would persuade me, like you know that this

1368
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: song belongs to me? It was isn't good to you?

1369
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: What's heavy? He said, you gotta give me this. This

1370
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: was a Rex and Effect record. Gotta give me this tag.

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01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on, you gotta do this. Man.

1372
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: I was like, heavy, Man, you're a bully. He's like, no,

1373
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I say, you know what, I'm promote you

1374
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: being a bully around people, because you really buy. He

1375
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: bullied me out of is it good to you? He

1376
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: bullied me out of we got our own thing. I

1377
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: was watching the fact record and now that we found love.

1378
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: And every time he came to my house or he

1379
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 1: came down to Virginia, he came to Virginia. He was

1380
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: trying to steal no Diggity. I played no diggity because

1381
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: I always played every is my best friend. Let me

1382
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: tell you something. He was trying to rap on and

1383
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, could I get on it? At least?

1384
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: I was like, no, this one here, you cannot have.

1385
01:35:55,080 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm keeping this one for myself. And he's like, all right, you,

1386
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: I got to tell Jimmy about this record. He was

1387
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 1: the one that convinced Jimmy this is the single because

1388
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy wanted money can buy Me Love as a single.

1389
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: And I said, Jimmy, you sure you can't tell Jimmy, Yo,

1390
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 1: this is the single, Jimmy, unless you should Knight or somebody.

1391
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: I was just you know, I know, I shot him

1392
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: the humblest Jimmy play it for somebody so heavy, you know,

1393
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: usually stopped by Jimmy's And what put the icing on

1394
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 1: the cake? And we're going back to analog. What put

1395
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 1: the icing on the cake? Was Doctor Trey heard it.

1396
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 1: He said, listen Teddy Rolly's no record and Dre heard

1397
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: the joint and Drey was like, YO, tell ted when

1398
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 1: you do this record, I want to be in the video,

1399
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 1: saying when you do the record. He wants to be

1400
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: in a video, I said, Jimmy. I said, yeah, this

1401
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: is Jimmy.

1402
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 2: That's a great impression because I know everybody else didn't catch.

1403
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: It on so check it. I said, you tell Dre.

1404
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: Tell Dre. If he gave me sixteen, we could do

1405
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: this together, right, And that's how I got sixteen. And

1406
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 1: we did it analog. You know how they got it

1407
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: to me within twenty four hours ISD n oh oh

1408
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: the mail service, yes, okay, okay, So but you know

1409
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: how it worked. You know, actual headquarters was move No,

1410
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: it was in was it was again somewhere Innneapolis? Yeah,

1411
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: just like one place. You shoot it to them. Yeah,

1412
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: and you're playing it over the phone. You have to

1413
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 1: have the machine to the rack. You had to have that,

1414
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: and you that goes over the phone, plugged the phone

1415
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: through it and it plays it straight to them and

1416
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:03,560
Speaker 1: then it goes to California or wherever you wanted to go.

1417
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: But they were the headquarters to get music sent at

1418
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: high quality better than digital. Wow. And this is back

1419
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: then nineteen ninety four when we worked on that song,

1420
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: and that's what convinced Jimmy and it became Jimmy's favorite song,

1421
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 1: God damn It and me and they we were together

1422
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: about a week and a half ago. You and Jimmy,

1423
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy Andre with my phone, my phone, we want to

1424
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: see it. So, yeah, we were together doing Vinyl Night.

1425
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 1: You gotta do Vinyl Night with them? Okay? What is

1426
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,679
Speaker 1: Vinyl Night? That they got the vinyl and they playing

1427
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 1: your records, all your records. So they had Paul McCartney

1428
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,560
Speaker 1: playing all the Beatles records and it's crazy, just the

1429
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 1: high density, you know, it's like wow. So so we're

1430
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,560
Speaker 1: sitting there and we're playing me and Dre is just

1431
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: joking about how and the story is consistent, like Jimmy

1432
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: talking about it, and it was like, yeah, that's like

1433
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 1: almost a documentary, you know what I really feel like

1434
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 1: if what was the documentary that they did was the

1435
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: chronicles with jim Jimmy, I V and Dre what it was.

1436
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 1: But I thought that Jimmy, because y'all know Jimmy was

1437
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: a producer, right, Okay, that's what the topic. Yeah, well

1438
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm sorry, what is the Defiant? I

1439
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 1: thought it should be more defiant ones and I'm gonna

1440
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: show y'all something. But let me show y'all us first,

1441
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: like right all night. It was amazing. I'll never I

1442
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 1: don't post our pictures like that's the stuff you keep sacred,

1443
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, because you won't find like this is that

1444
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 1: was a billion dollars in the room. Billion dollars. But

1445
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know you're very famous, you

1446
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: know you're very famous, you have to I'm almost almost

1447
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 1: almost okay.

1448
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 3: I like that.

1449
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 1: I like that.

1450
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:24,560
Speaker 3: I like that.

1451
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a shop for that. Sorry that the

1452
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 2: people that was in the room there you go, God

1453
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 2: damn it. I feel poor already. That is that Larry Jackson,

1454
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 2: doctor Dre, you and Jimmy. I mean that is let

1455
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 2: me see, let me pass around the room.

1456
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 1: That is how you how do you say money? Never

1457
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 1: want to say money around the world. He might put

1458
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: his number in there. They may not believe it. You know,

1459
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 1: some people don't believe yo. I was, yeah, I don't

1460
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: think around. I'll show you trust everybody. But when that happened,

1461
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: I felt like Jimmy could actually do a series of

1462
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 1: the Fine Ones easily. That's a great idea. And I

1463
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 1: was going to break the idea to him while we

1464
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 1: was at the house, but we was just having so

1465
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:39,640
Speaker 1: much fun doing the final that it was so it

1466
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 1: was so listen to him. It was so special, like

1467
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 1: I want to be. I was so tired of my music.

1468
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, play an l a read song, man,

1469
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:54,839
Speaker 1: play play Dre song and it was like, no, tonight

1470
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 1: is your night, bro. I was like wow, And that

1471
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 1: was so special. Oh, you know, I felt amazed, you know,

1472
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 1: because I ain't talked to Jimmy in a while, because

1473
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 1: I kind of it's moving around. After losing my mom,

1474
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:11,679
Speaker 1: I kind of went dormant. You know, you gotta go away,

1475
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: come back. I moved from Vegas, so I said, man,

1476
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 1: I felt like Vegas, you know, took my mother out

1477
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 1: of here. But you know, I just moved anyway. And

1478
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: I said, you know, let me go to Texas for

1479
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 1: a minute. Now I'm here, I'm like, let's buy a

1480
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 1: healthy baby, you know that that type of stuff I

1481
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 1: like to do. When I went to Virginia, I just

1482
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: set up shop and just move. But I'm gonna say this,

1483
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: when you got good friends, you got good people like that,

1484
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 1: you gotta really like those are the people that you keep.

1485
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: Those are the corners. I know, corners is it's not circles,

1486
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: it's corners. And I had to get rid of the circles.

1487
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: That's why you know, I'm not solo. I got a

1488
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 1: new team, but I just had to get away from

1489
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: the blessing blockers. You know, sometimes what's for you is

1490
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 1: from you, I said, blockers. I've never heard. That's crazy.

1491
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 1: What's for you for you? You know? And I've always

1492
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: I held I've been so patient to tell my truth,

1493
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:19,600
Speaker 1: which is why I have the book now and you

1494
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 1: can see everything in there and all the people that

1495
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 1: I work with. One person that's not in there that

1496
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, I felt. I wish he was, but because

1497
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: of the circumstances and I'm dealing with the corporate wall,

1498
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 1: they told me to pull it. And that's my brother Diddy,

1499
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:45,759
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I've never you know, witness or anything.

1500
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: I never experienced nothing, I know nothing. All I know

1501
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: is he was my in turn. And I only been

1502
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 1: to one event, which was when he got a star

1503
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 1: in Hollywood because it said Harlem to Hollywood. So I

1504
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 1: hope it's okay to talk about this. Of course, of

1505
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 1: course we we we we were the same way. We've

1506
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 1: never not witnessed that. Yeah, when they told me. It's

1507
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 1: just like, yo, this is very you know, it's disappointing,

1508
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, but it is what it is, you know.

1509
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,679
Speaker 1: But I have to say, man, it's it's a lot

1510
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 1: that we are not subject to. And we we go

1511
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,719
Speaker 1: through stuff, and and I wish I could have caught

1512
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: it because I catch a lot, and I catch a

1513
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 1: lot of my brothers and my little brothers. But you know,

1514
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 1: sometimes the little brother feels like he's the big brother.

1515
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Mm hm. You gotta let him become the big brother,

1516
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 1: you know. But I was, I was in there, I

1517
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 1: was out of there, in there, out of there. So

1518
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: let's do the game. Okay. I ain't so.

1519
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,959
Speaker 2: Attracted off Keep Sweat or Christopher Williams.

1520
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: These guys come on with it. Who did Dominican in

1521
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 1: the Columbia? Okay? I understand. Okay, Well I have to

1522
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: say Keith Sweat. And why I say Keith Sweat because

1523
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: not because I work with it and not because of uh,

1524
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: we're brothers. I say Keith Sweat even if we wasn't brothers.

1525
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 1: Keith Sweat is a signature, right, Keith Sweat created a signature. See,

1526
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: it's a difference like when I created New Jack Swing.

1527
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: It's my signature. Christopher Williams. You know he didn't have

1528
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: a signature. He had a voice like Teddy Pendergrass or

1529
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:56,560
Speaker 1: Colonel Abrams. You know that's that's not creating a signature.

1530
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Nothing against him because he's a dope singer and he's

1531
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 1: my boy. It's my brother. But Keith, you know his records,

1532
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: you know that's him, and that's something you can't take

1533
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: away from a pressure, just like you know it's Bobby.

1534
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,639
Speaker 1: I create signatures when I made them, saying they walked

1535
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 1: out of the studio. Both of them walked out of

1536
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:25,680
Speaker 1: the studio on me. Bobby and I got into a

1537
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 1: little small argument. I don't argue. You don't let you argue.

1538
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't argue. I just say, yo, we don't have

1539
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 1: to do this shit and keep it moving. And then

1540
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 1: he walked out. He's like, okay, eort he walked out, Bobby. Yeah,

1541
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,560
Speaker 1: we did over the projects we did. I did. I

1542
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: did my progative on the twelfth track. Okay, it was

1543
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: like a mixtake and they couldn't create or reproduce the sound.

1544
01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 1: So I had to take my twelfth track to the

1545
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 1: student video to keep the sound right. And I'm gonna stick.

1546
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, that's like I have to have

1547
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: the same sound. My ear was so keen to having

1548
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: the same sound. When I try to re record it

1549
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: at Access Studios and it's like, this don't sound like

1550
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: the house I need to create. I needed to crime me.

1551
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:27,600
Speaker 1: So I bought that dog on, put that thing in

1552
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: the car. We took it down. We just dropped it.

1553
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: You know about writing cold and generating new Cold, Yeah, absolutely,

1554
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: But I want to ask one thing. No, but we

1555
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,640
Speaker 1: had to create new COLDE in order for me to

1556
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:47,799
Speaker 1: sync my drum machine or anything up to the actual

1557
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 1: Akai to the twenty four track. Oh my god. Yes,

1558
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: when we did that, everything turned out perfect. Now it's

1559
01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: time to sing. Okay. We got in the studio started,

1560
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 1: I had to track up and everything. Next thing, you know,

1561
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:23,759
Speaker 1: let's go yeah boom doom from boom boom doom boom,

1562
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah boom boom boom boom boom. Get busy. Everything is good.

1563
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: Right now it's time to sing. They say I'm crazy.

1564
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 1: I really don't care. He was singing it not like

1565
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 1: the record. I said stop.

1566
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 2: Stop, okay, see he pre recorded it on the other track.

1567
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,599
Speaker 2: You're saying, no, we were practicing okay. We never put

1568
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 2: the vocal down at the house. The music was down, okay.

1569
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: When we got to the studio, we we had this

1570
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: is like, okay, you're good, all right, let's take it

1571
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,799
Speaker 1: to the studio. So we took it to the studio

1572
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 1: and he's singing it different. Next thing you know, I said, stop, bo,

1573
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: you ain't singing it like how you was doing it

1574
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 1: at the house. Man, I don't forget nothing, he said,

1575
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: who's talking to I told you. I was just like, yo,

1576
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying. He's like calling at me.

1577
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just saying, man, you ain't singing and

1578
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: like how you did it at the house. Now come on, man,

1579
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 1: he said, you know who I am. I mean girl

1580
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 1: next door. I make hits. Just how you started flexing.

1581
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, we don't have to do this.

1582
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: He said, fuck it. Damn. He left the studio and

1583
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: then the air and all called me apologize. He was

1584
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 1: just like, yo, please don't leave the studio. I'm about

1585
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 1: to go home. I don't I don't have to do this.

1586
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: He said, man, just give me a chance. Let me

1587
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 1: call him, and they called him and said, yo, if

1588
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 1: you don't get your ass back in the studio. We

1589
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna can your album. If you got records from Babyfacing

1590
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 1: La some icons and then this is an icon. He's

1591
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 1: just not a He's not a kid, right, He's an icon.

1592
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: Get back in the studio. He came back to the studio,

1593
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 1: and you know how we used we try to get

1594
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 1: the last word. It's like, all right, we're gonna do

1595
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 1: this shit and if it don't go my weight, if

1596
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 1: it don't go the way you say, we're gonna do

1597
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 1: it my way. I said, okay, he said all right,

1598
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 1: let's go. I said, let's go. He said, all right,

1599
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 1: let him get the last word. He got in that

1600
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 1: room and sung it all the way up to the

1601
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: second verse, and he stopped. He came in the room.

1602
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: He said, I want to I want to hear it. Okay,

1603
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 1: So he had the demo face like he didn't want

1604
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: to give no type of emotions or nothing. He's just

1605
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:21,680
Speaker 1: at that moment he didn't like me. So I was like,

1606
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:33,799
Speaker 1: let's play the record. They say I'm crazy. I really

1607
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: don't care. Got all the way to the second verse,

1608
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: he said, I am going back in the room. He

1609
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 1: went back in the room. Next thing, you know, my

1610
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 1: name was said. I said, yeah, no, nigga like it.

1611
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: Now I know he like it because my name wouldn't

1612
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 1: be in there. Twice we became best friends for that,

1613
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 1: he became brothers, you know. And and that's how being

1614
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 1: a producer is like being a shrink, you know what

1615
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Being you know, you got to convince the

1616
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 1: person that the medicine is good, trust the process, and

1617
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 1: I know we all go to it for everybody we

1618
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 1: go through it. That is, I've never heard it broke.

1619
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: Our job is to make you better than you thought,

1620
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, like you think you got all you and

1621
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: then you didn't realize that I didn't know. I can

1622
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 1: go even more. And that's what I did with Bobby.

1623
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 2: That's that's you know, that's my barogative could have possibly

1624
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 2: not been made had he not came back to that.

1625
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 1: But I feel that the way he probably approached the

1626
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:52,560
Speaker 1: record after that added to the record because man, he

1627
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 1: sung that bridge. I had one take on the bridge.

1628
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 1: He ain't had to punch nothing or nothing. He was

1629
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: so hypper. When you feel good about a record, you're

1630
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna make that record fire. You're gonna

1631
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 1: do the best and that's what he did, Bobby. When

1632
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: he got something, he got it. He would you one take.

1633
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 1: Because he's a he's a performer, and what he does

1634
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 1: on the stage, he put it in the studio. And

1635
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I love about him. I'll tell

1636
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:28,719
Speaker 1: you another one take, guys. Johnny Kemp just got paid.

1637
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: Was never sung twice Friday. That dude killed that record. Now,

1638
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 1: Keith Sweat, he didn't walk out of the studio. I mean,

1639
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 1: he was just hard. It was hard for him because

1640
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 1: I was I was young. It was hard for him

1641
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 1: to take the advice from me, like you know, and

1642
01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:50,640
Speaker 1: I had to say, this is your sound, this is

1643
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 1: your signature. And then he finally got it after listening

1644
01:53:54,960 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 1: to you know himself singing all the way down. He

1645
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 1: got it, you know. And most singers are like that,

1646
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 1: you know, when you kind of guide them. That's our

1647
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: job is to give you guidance. And most people don't

1648
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 1: want guidance m hm, right, especially an artists and artists, Yeah,

1649
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 1: because we have to tap into ego. That's the thing

1650
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 1: about artistry. You have to tap into your ego. And

1651
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 1: the ego is the one that exactly you ever noticed

1652
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: some of them artists after their first album, they become

1653
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 1: the producer. It's like, yeah, I'm producing everything. What happened

1654
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 1: to Timberlan? What happened for Well, that's who got you there.

1655
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 1: But most times, you know, you get these producers like that,

1656
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 1: and I mean these artists like that, and they want

1657
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 1: to now be the leader. You think they got it,

1658
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 1: find out that I should have listened. What's the next?

1659
01:54:54,520 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 1: Next one? Yeah, Mason can that's hard on Ship, Cameron

1660
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 1: or Mace. I gotta stay out of this one drinking.

1661
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: Let me get, let me get, let me get it.

1662
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 1: I pleaded the fifth drink, so we drink it. Yeah, yeah, Solu,

1663
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 1: next one. I know, people thinking, yo, he ain't drinking nothing,

1664
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 1: but I don't even know what he's drinking over there, moscatta. Yeah.

1665
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 1: I like wine because it mellows me, you know, and

1666
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't only do it sometimes. I waited. Last time

1667
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 1: I drunk wine was maybe well three four months ago.

1668
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm not a drinker, so I decided, you know, I

1669
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a party pool boy. You know,

1670
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 1: this would have been great with or without you drinking. Okay,

1671
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 1: so you know, like that wasn't but it mellows me.

1672
01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 4: You know.

1673
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll get in the studio and just you know, wife,

1674
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 1: he would be like, yo, you want to try some wine,

1675
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: And I'll be like, let's get it by time. Yeah,

1676
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 1: little face, Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis you better get

1677
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting drinking. Look, I know, I know. I know

1678
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 1: where y'all getting to. Though, I know where y'all getting to.

1679
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 1: And with a little bit of soual water the same

1680
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 1: way you did. I like that. I got the vodka

1681
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: with a little bit of sal water. You know what

1682
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean. You know a little bit of balance. Let's

1683
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 1: go balance it balance. I don't a little bit ahead?

1684
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 1: You got more? He holding it down. I ain't gonna

1685
01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: know now. I seen you tips before. I'll tell you good.

1686
01:56:54,960 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 1: You're good. What's your name? You want to get shy? Oh?

1687
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 1: Come on, but I gotta I got I'm not drinking

1688
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 1: no more. That's crazy, I have to say, even though

1689
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 1: these are my guys, but I'm gotta be you, Sonny.

1690
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 1: Look you see him. I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick one,

1691
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why I picked that one. I

1692
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 1: picked shy mm hmm. Yeah. I picked Shy because I

1693
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 1: just had a performance with them them some singing fools

1694
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: without no music. They are singing fools. And I realized that,

1695
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, this sound to me was like up the

1696
01:57:54,280 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 1: alley of you know boys, demen takes. You know, that

1697
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 1: harmony was lush, you know, like I love harmonies like

1698
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 1: old school do old school dop, barbershop, you know vocals.

1699
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 1: So when I first heard the If I Ever Fall

1700
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 1: in Love Again Wild record, that record is that's a problem.

1701
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 1: But High five is a problem with Tony mm hmm.

1702
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 1: When he passed, it changed. But we put them back

1703
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 1: together and they are there. You when you hear the

1704
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 1: new High five record, you're gonna be amazed. But I

1705
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 1: have to give it to Shay right now because they're together,

1706
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 1: they rocking. Okay, this is this this I din't see

1707
01:58:55,360 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 1: your phone exactly what say new edition or Jackson five? See?

1708
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 1: So so what happened was your criteria is remember this

1709
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 1: is what I have to say to Jackson five, okay,

1710
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't be there wouldn't be no new addition

1711
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 1: without the Jackson five and the Jackson five. When I

1712
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 1: work with the Jackson's and Michael, I work with them

1713
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 1: all and we did twenty three hundred Jackson Street and

1714
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 1: they were I'm sorry, you give me this doesn't happen.

1715
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 1: But their harmonies, their harmonies are amazing, and but just

1716
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 1: to be it's like going to like my first year

1717
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:57,520
Speaker 1: of college working with the Jackson's and having everybody Theyah

1718
01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:05,840
Speaker 1: janet Re LaToya being in the presence of what's the

1719
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 1: props name? I got it? What was the name? Jo? Joe?

1720
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 1: Joe wasn't there. We didn't allow Joe to be. Michael

1721
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 1: was like, he's a meaning. That's Michael, Michael. He's a

1722
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 1: meaning to take his calls exactly like Michael would say that.

1723
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:34,960
Speaker 1: I was like, why father, Yeah, he's a meaning. He's

1724
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 1: a meaning. I know what he wants. I know exactly

1725
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 1: what he wants. Michael used to correct bel. He'd be like, no,

1726
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 1: don't take that call. The only person can call me

1727
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 1: is mother Catherine. Holy shit, his mother. Oh no, I

1728
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 1: got to ask you. I just found this record today.

1729
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 1: I want to see if you know this record. Yeah, no,

1730
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 1: I've never seen this. I don't know if this is

1731
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 1: someone produced this. Have you ever seen this record? Yes,

1732
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 1: I've seen this record before one day and this is

1733
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 1: what are you thinking? It's Michael Jackson that really didn't

1734
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 1: go anywhere back in the days. But but yeah, I've

1735
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 1: never seen and I've seen that record before and I've

1736
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 1: heard that record, but it really never did anything. I'm

1737
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:31,920
Speaker 1: reading the Dragon, I'm like, I've never heard none of

1738
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 1: these records. But what the is going on here? It

1739
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 1: was that he did on that was before Off the

1740
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 1: Wall Wow, right before it, I think right before it

1741
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 1: look at the you you got to cut it was

1742
02:01:57,120 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 1: it was yeah, Wow, before I did that. That's when

1743
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:10,680
Speaker 1: they were testing his solo career, the Jackson five. Right

1744
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 1: after Jackson Jackson five. This is a secret Michael album

1745
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:16,840
Speaker 1: and no one knows about it. I mean no, it

1746
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 1: was you know how how you say they didn't want

1747
02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 1: people to know that record? Oh wow? You know, because

1748
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 1: when Off the Wall came. You know, it's like when

1749
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:30,320
Speaker 1: you're trying to put out something really taking artists to

1750
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 1: the next level. It's almost like when when L. A.

1751
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 1: Reed put out Usher's album and he put out the

1752
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:39,960
Speaker 1: wrong single and he pulled it back and then put

1753
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:45,280
Speaker 1: out Confessions. The same thing with you remind me No, yeah,

1754
02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:48,680
Speaker 1: Rusher Usher, I think no, you would understand more like

1755
02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 1: the first Mob Deep album versus the understand My damn

1756
02:02:53,200 --> 02:03:06,040
Speaker 1: understand that was really und it. That was on track.

1757
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 2: That's larious, but okay, I'm gonna keep it going, like

1758
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:19,760
Speaker 2: all right, ooh, this is a good one. Nineties or

1759
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:26,160
Speaker 2: two thousands, R and B nineties, nineties right nineties babies made.

1760
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was more baby making and music with substance.

1761
02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 1: You got music with substance, like two thousands started getting

1762
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:39,440
Speaker 1: into the plastic and the music that wasn't didn't have

1763
02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 1: the stay in power. You can hear record in two

1764
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 1: thousand today you'd be like, damn, I forgot about that record.

1765
02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: What you hear record in the nineties, it's like, yo,

1766
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 1: put that joint back on. That's the final And.

1767
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 2: It's kind of timeless because if a person didn't hear

1768
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 2: that record, they'll listen to that thing and that it's Yeah.

1769
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 1: Most music in two thousand was black and white, right.

1770
02:04:05,560 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 1: The music back in the nineties was colorful. Yeah, I agree,

1771
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 1: it had different colors to it. Like I agree with that,

1772
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:15,080
Speaker 1: Like when when when Guy came out, it made it

1773
02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:20,320
Speaker 1: cool for dudes to wear gators again and put on colors,

1774
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 1: and you know, you wasn't being scrutinized when boys and

1775
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 1: men did those records. You know you felt great, you know,

1776
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 1: going to the club with your girl. These are records

1777
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 1: that stood the test of time and still bumping right now. Yep,

1778
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:47,960
Speaker 1: even one twelve Features and Cream. You know, you remember

1779
02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:50,120
Speaker 1: the name of the song in the nineties. You don't

1780
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:54,920
Speaker 1: remember what song you remember in two thousand besides you

1781
02:04:55,680 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 1: know me mean anybody? Yeah, huh what was that? That

1782
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 1: was ninety nine? Yeah, that was ninety nine that he

1783
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 1: just made it. So, Okay, there's a good one. S

1784
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:30,200
Speaker 1: w V or Escape. Nothing against Escape, and not because

1785
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:37,960
Speaker 1: I work with s WV. But I'm gonna please the fifth. Okay,

1786
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:41,560
Speaker 1: we're drinking. I'm we're gonna drink. I'm drinking my wine

1787
02:05:41,600 --> 02:05:43,920
Speaker 1: over here. I had wine over here and wine over here.

1788
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:49,320
Speaker 1: It was like this is this is this? Can I

1789
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 1: think this next one? Go ahead? Okay?

1790
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 2: Lauren Hill or Eric Abadu mm hmm, Lauryn Hill, Ladies

1791
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,840
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, that was very easy for you.

1792
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was because lawn Hill had They both have signatures.

1793
02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:12,600
Speaker 1: They both have signatures. I just think that lawn Hill

1794
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,880
Speaker 1: had the big records. You know, she she had the

1795
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 1: records that made you it's like wow. And then she

1796
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 1: had the bounce records you know, no, no, yeah, she

1797
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:40,880
Speaker 1: had those records, even though Erica Badu had the pumping records.

1798
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 1: But for me, I felt like she didn't have like

1799
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:50,000
Speaker 1: like you could take h Lawn Hill to the clubs,

1800
02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:54,280
Speaker 1: to the picnic and to the wedding. Thank you Wait

1801
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:56,200
Speaker 1: do you say that again? I'm sorry. You can take

1802
02:06:57,600 --> 02:07:00,720
Speaker 1: Lauryn Hill to the club, to the picnic and the wedding,

1803
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 1: right and the wedding, the wedding, Okay, yeah, yeah, okay,

1804
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:05,320
Speaker 1: you're right.

1805
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could take Eric about dude there too,

1806
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:13,200
Speaker 2: and you can take out of the bedroom.

1807
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the instance in the incense. Yeah, let's be boy.

1808
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 1: She got her. Yeah, we love you can. We had

1809
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 1: her on. We looked. She blew it down. Man, she

1810
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:34,640
Speaker 1: made it so all of us. She made you. We

1811
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:41,160
Speaker 1: smell like good like yes, yes, and we've been by

1812
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:46,320
Speaker 1: out ever since. But yes we've been. We were so yeah,

1813
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:50,520
Speaker 1: so big up to Eric and Lauren Hill. Yeah, Lauren here.

1814
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 2: We definitely want to give Lauren Hill her flowers as

1815
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:54,520
Speaker 2: so big them both up.

1816
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:56,800
Speaker 1: Then. I think that was a great comparison. You want

1817
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 1: to go to the next one. Now this was you,

1818
02:07:58,080 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 1: This is actually okay, all right, hold on, let me

1819
02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:08,440
Speaker 1: look at it. Okay, all right, this relates to you too. Okay,

1820
02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 1: that's crazy, that's just it's very true. I'm like one

1821
02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:14,520
Speaker 1: of the first people to work with both of Tammy

1822
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:22,640
Speaker 1: Lucas or Kalise Wow. It would be Kalise Wow, you know,

1823
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:31,880
Speaker 1: because she had Caalise is an artist. Tammy was the writer,

1824
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:36,400
Speaker 1: that's what, and she had the background vocals of life.

1825
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:42,600
Speaker 1: Caalise was just the artist and you know, she wrote

1826
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:45,040
Speaker 1: some of us stuff. I don't know how much of

1827
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:50,560
Speaker 1: it m but I felt like it would be Kalise

1828
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 1: because she was out there more. Tammy was the hidden

1829
02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:58,360
Speaker 1: jewel and still is like I don't notice, she doesn't

1830
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 1: notice to this day. Uh. We wanted to get her

1831
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:06,640
Speaker 1: for my video. We couldn't find her like I'm Tammy.

1832
02:09:06,760 --> 02:09:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we couldn't find her Like I mean, I was

1833
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:11,920
Speaker 2: in our e I was probably just thinking about I

1834
02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:14,040
Speaker 2: was just coming up. It's my first hit, it's my

1835
02:09:14,120 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 2: first global hit. So I was probably like, couldn't get up,

1836
02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 2: and it was just like we can't reach her, and

1837
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 2: then I just like probably get going. But it was

1838
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:25,760
Speaker 2: always like something and what I heard is that she

1839
02:09:25,840 --> 02:09:27,560
Speaker 2: wanted to be a background.

1840
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, she wanted to be in one front. Well, she

1841
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:33,240
Speaker 1: did have a That's how Tammy Lucas and I met

1842
02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:36,760
Speaker 1: actually reached out to her because I loved her record.

1843
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:41,880
Speaker 1: Her first single was like it was a club banger.

1844
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow. And then we just started making records and

1845
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, Tammy wrote Goodbye Love. Wow. I did not

1846
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, yeah, she wrote Goodbye Love. She wrote

1847
02:09:53,560 --> 02:09:57,280
Speaker 1: Joy for Michael Jackson and then we wound up giving

1848
02:09:57,360 --> 02:10:02,840
Speaker 1: it to h to uh Black Street. She also wrote

1849
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:10,120
Speaker 1: Tonight's to Night for Black Streets. Tammy's is sick. Now,

1850
02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:14,160
Speaker 1: if you're talking about on the writing level, I would

1851
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:21,680
Speaker 1: pick Timmy. Yeah, okay, this is so dope or follow MC.

1852
02:10:25,040 --> 02:10:35,080
Speaker 1: We're preparing, we're not trying to drink. But it's because

1853
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's one of the one of the most

1854
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:45,080
Speaker 1: educated rappers. You know, this is one comod got his

1855
02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:51,040
Speaker 1: master his degree. Like d is a book smart, Like

1856
02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:55,800
Speaker 1: he can tell you any and everything about anything. And

1857
02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:58,360
Speaker 1: that's why I worked with him because it was nothing

1858
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:03,080
Speaker 1: that like he never said things. Twice I was he's

1859
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:07,960
Speaker 1: real m C. We need over here. So him and

1860
02:11:08,080 --> 02:11:13,920
Speaker 1: Chuck Rock, yeah and Father Rock. I spoke to him

1861
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:17,600
Speaker 1: for like two seconds. He's a party guy, don't. I

1862
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:22,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't say he's educated like rapper right right? He brought

1863
02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 1: you to the rolls skating wing, to the club, you know,

1864
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:30,720
Speaker 1: to the picnic you know, but would bring you there.

1865
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:34,400
Speaker 1: He was spending, was trying to spend, bring you to

1866
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 1: the hip hop parties and make you believe everything he said. Yeah,

1867
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:48,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Harror, Timmy Gatling, that was awkward. Was it supposed

1868
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:52,760
Speaker 1: to be Aaron Hall? R Kelly? Yeah, that's but it

1869
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 1: was supposed to be that these guys, right, it will

1870
02:11:55,840 --> 02:12:01,920
Speaker 1: be Aaron Hall. Yeah. Timmy Gatlin was a great writer,

1871
02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:07,360
Speaker 1: it still is. But Timmy wasn't like a singer to me.

1872
02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 1: Timmy was like like me, you know, get in where

1873
02:12:11,160 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 1: you fit in, right and get out because when it

1874
02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 1: comes to blowing, Arra Hall was singing the lights off

1875
02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:22,080
Speaker 1: back then.

1876
02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:26,240
Speaker 2: Okay, but let me ask you now, let me switch

1877
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:29,960
Speaker 2: the conversation. Made the conversations Aaron Hall or Kelly? What

1878
02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:31,360
Speaker 2: do you think Kelly?

1879
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:35,800
Speaker 1: All day? Kelly? It would be all Kelly because Kelly,

1880
02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 1: first of all, you messing with a signature or Kelly

1881
02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:45,040
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like Arma Hall. Everybody keeps saying it and

1882
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give you the will. He never sounded

1883
02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:50,960
Speaker 1: like R Kelly, didn't sound like anybody. Yeah, he sounded

1884
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:54,680
Speaker 1: like himself. He had one of the smoothest voices that

1885
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:59,480
Speaker 1: will put you in the ring, the like Donnie Hathaway.

1886
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 1: That was his Like R Kelly created his signature like

1887
02:13:05,800 --> 02:13:14,920
Speaker 1: Donny Hathaway logic or pro tools logic. Do you know

1888
02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm the first logic user? Real? Yeah, very first. I

1889
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:23,920
Speaker 1: used logic on our Tari Comodore. I did remember the time.

1890
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:29,800
Speaker 1: On our Tari Comodore. It wasn't called logic. It was

1891
02:13:29,920 --> 02:13:34,480
Speaker 1: called notator, and then it went from notator to notator logic,

1892
02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:38,160
Speaker 1: and then they just took the notata out and called

1893
02:13:38,200 --> 02:13:42,760
Speaker 1: it logic. When it went to Macintosh. Before Apple, it

1894
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:46,960
Speaker 1: was called Macintosh crazy. So you know that computer. All

1895
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:50,160
Speaker 1: you've seen was this when you play tetric song and

1896
02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:54,880
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson joked, my damn computer. He made me buy

1897
02:13:55,720 --> 02:14:02,200
Speaker 1: multi He's like, is this saying does it work? What

1898
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:04,240
Speaker 1: is no? First of all, what do you say? What

1899
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:08,080
Speaker 1: is that? Because I had it on the laptop, He's like,

1900
02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:11,280
Speaker 1: what is that? I was like, that's when I make

1901
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:16,640
Speaker 1: my music, he said, He said, I mean, is it good,

1902
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:21,720
Speaker 1: Like how long you had it? Like I had it

1903
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:25,960
Speaker 1: for some time now, you know. He said where should

1904
02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:29,640
Speaker 1: you buy it? Like? I bought it. My guys you know,

1905
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:34,240
Speaker 1: cooked me up with it and I bought it. Can

1906
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:39,160
Speaker 1: you buy more? Like I think we need more? I

1907
02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:43,840
Speaker 1: truly think so so that we'll never go down down

1908
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:50,400
Speaker 1: just like this? Can you mean? Michael? He's like, normal,

1909
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 1: can you take take the model number and buy more,

1910
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, in case so we never go down. It's like, okay,

1911
02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:04,080
Speaker 1: you know it is in the book where can I

1912
02:15:04,120 --> 02:15:08,400
Speaker 1: asked you? Did you just say Atari Atari? Commodore computer

1913
02:15:08,560 --> 02:15:11,440
Speaker 1: had their computer, they had had their own and logic

1914
02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:18,520
Speaker 1: was on there. Yeah, yeah, before everybody that's triple computer ship.

1915
02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, definitely. It's like one point. Oh so the

1916
02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:30,040
Speaker 1: visual version before that, I think you hitting the block.

1917
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:33,880
Speaker 1: I used to play that on my downtime kids. Oh

1918
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:39,960
Speaker 1: my god, before analogue. It's like there was no sound

1919
02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:42,920
Speaker 1: coming out of it. You know. That was just the MIDI.

1920
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:46,680
Speaker 1: That's why I was called Notata because it's just MIDI.

1921
02:15:47,160 --> 02:15:50,040
Speaker 1: And then I would use to MP. That's when I

1922
02:15:50,440 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 1: had MPs. I used to MP. It would basically I'll

1923
02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:58,560
Speaker 1: played my drum machine all of that stuff through it,

1924
02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:01,560
Speaker 1: and all my keyboards would be MIDTI. And I have

1925
02:16:03,080 --> 02:16:05,800
Speaker 1: a lot of producers would know this. It's called eat magic.

1926
02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:09,440
Speaker 1: It was the medi and I midty all my keyboards

1927
02:16:09,640 --> 02:16:13,880
Speaker 1: to the computer, which is basically MIDI is like sinking

1928
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:16,360
Speaker 1: all the differ stuff together. But I'm also the first

1929
02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:20,680
Speaker 1: on pro tools as well. Oh shit, you know why? Well,

1930
02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:24,920
Speaker 1: for pro toos there was sound Tools, and sound Tools

1931
02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:27,839
Speaker 1: was only two tracks, and then it graduated to four tracks.

1932
02:16:28,640 --> 02:16:33,240
Speaker 1: And then that's when digit Design made it. You know,

1933
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:37,000
Speaker 1: I was the first indorser. I was on I don't

1934
02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:40,080
Speaker 1: know if anybody ever seen the eight eight eights. That

1935
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:45,120
Speaker 1: was the first interface, the very first, and uh I

1936
02:16:45,160 --> 02:16:48,960
Speaker 1: had an endorsement. I was the first endorsement with them. Wow. Yeah.

1937
02:16:49,160 --> 02:16:55,360
Speaker 1: So but between the two, I like Logic because Logic

1938
02:16:55,800 --> 02:17:03,039
Speaker 1: you can have custom key commands. Choose no custom key commands,

1939
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:07,320
Speaker 1: so you gotta it's almost like slavery. You have to

1940
02:17:07,879 --> 02:17:10,360
Speaker 1: use their key commands. You have to do it their way,

1941
02:17:10,600 --> 02:17:15,720
Speaker 1: you know. I couldn't when when Logic had the custom

1942
02:17:15,800 --> 02:17:25,400
Speaker 1: key commands, I was like freedom, All right, clips are outcasts. God,

1943
02:17:26,360 --> 02:17:35,280
Speaker 1: let's start drinking drink. I'll drink to that one, let

1944
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:44,320
Speaker 1: me say yes, congratulations to the nephews and yeah, but

1945
02:17:45,480 --> 02:17:52,199
Speaker 1: I have to say both of them problems. They they're amazing.

1946
02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:57,160
Speaker 2: I text push your tea and I text for real, uh,

1947
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:04,840
Speaker 2: although I'm not from Yeah, I felt I felt like

1948
02:18:05,720 --> 02:18:09,440
Speaker 2: they win was my win as well, Like when I

1949
02:18:09,560 --> 02:18:12,560
Speaker 2: got to see like for real win and then the

1950
02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:17,080
Speaker 2: Clips win at the same night and Clips being Clips,

1951
02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:21,240
Speaker 2: they didn't compromise, they didn't like, you know what.

1952
02:18:21,280 --> 02:18:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, they didn't change. They was like, so

1953
02:18:24,640 --> 02:18:27,160
Speaker 1: I text person myself and I was just like.

1954
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:28,720
Speaker 2: Yo, bro, I just want you to know that's my

1955
02:18:28,879 --> 02:18:33,520
Speaker 2: win too, Like I won that ship too, exactly, and

1956
02:18:33,640 --> 02:18:35,320
Speaker 2: I text for real the same ship, but in like

1957
02:18:35,440 --> 02:18:37,520
Speaker 2: in a different language because I didn't want to send

1958
02:18:37,560 --> 02:18:39,520
Speaker 2: them the same ext want to copy and paste, you.

1959
02:18:39,520 --> 02:18:42,960
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. So but I look and that

1960
02:18:43,080 --> 02:18:46,080
Speaker 1: ship was like that, you know, I want to pick

1961
02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:47,560
Speaker 1: them up. I want to big hip.

1962
02:18:47,440 --> 02:18:50,800
Speaker 2: Hop up and like and then we actually think of

1963
02:18:50,959 --> 02:18:54,920
Speaker 2: that like now, like you know, uh, we had Virgil,

1964
02:18:55,240 --> 02:18:59,160
Speaker 2: you know, we had Yay and we got fucking you

1965
02:18:59,240 --> 02:19:03,440
Speaker 2: know for real as the fucking fucking LVMH. I haven't

1966
02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:06,480
Speaker 2: got my my friends and family package. It's okay, it's okay,

1967
02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:11,000
Speaker 2: it's we need okay, I want everything.

1968
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:15,160
Speaker 1: I buy everything myself money as well. When you think

1969
02:19:15,160 --> 02:19:16,480
Speaker 1: about what hip hop.

1970
02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:18,520
Speaker 2: When you think about that Biggie line, do you think

1971
02:19:18,560 --> 02:19:22,200
Speaker 2: that hip hop was making this wall and that ship

1972
02:19:22,320 --> 02:19:22,800
Speaker 2: is crazy?

1973
02:19:22,920 --> 02:19:23,000
Speaker 4: Bro?

1974
02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:27,400
Speaker 1: That's huge. That's that's a signature. Like that's a slog.

1975
02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:30,680
Speaker 1: That should be a a dog on billboard. It should

1976
02:19:30,720 --> 02:19:35,160
Speaker 1: be billboards like that's just stage everywhere, everywhere everything that

1977
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:39,440
Speaker 1: make it on hip What hip Hop's fiftieth birthday? That

1978
02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:43,680
Speaker 1: should have been on every billboard. Yes, nobody put it

1979
02:19:43,800 --> 02:19:44,960
Speaker 1: up there. True.

1980
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:53,760
Speaker 2: Damn, that's real. That's real, that's real. I still got goosebump. Yeah,

1981
02:19:54,200 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 2: we got, we got ready time you got more? N

1982
02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:05,080
Speaker 2: PC sixty, that's p m PC sixty. Straight producer question.

1983
02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:09,120
Speaker 2: That's a straight producer question. Yeah, definitely, this was for

1984
02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:14,640
Speaker 2: you man. Okay question Wait, okay, wait, damn okay, it's

1985
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:18,760
Speaker 2: a car question. A right BMW M three or the

1986
02:20:18,840 --> 02:20:19,440
Speaker 2: bens g.

1987
02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:25,640
Speaker 1: T coop GT coop gt coop. Yeah, okay. New Jack

1988
02:20:25,720 --> 02:20:29,520
Speaker 1: City or King of New York Jack One, New Jack

1989
02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:33,200
Speaker 1: City or King of New York Jack City. You're in

1990
02:20:33,320 --> 02:20:39,400
Speaker 1: New Jack City, New Jack City for sure, super producer.

1991
02:20:39,480 --> 02:20:45,160
Speaker 1: Question here Rolling V since or Yamaha motif? What do

1992
02:20:45,280 --> 02:20:48,080
Speaker 1: you know? I have about how many? Babe? I got

1993
02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:53,160
Speaker 1: about five or six Rolling V since they discontinued. So

1994
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:55,160
Speaker 1: I buy them all every time I see when I

1995
02:20:55,280 --> 02:21:00,680
Speaker 1: buy it because it's my sound, right, the sound on

1996
02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:03,880
Speaker 1: that that's what you see me playing every on stage

1997
02:21:04,240 --> 02:21:08,880
Speaker 1: if y'all had one. Here, I was at the radio station.

1998
02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:12,920
Speaker 1: We did a Q and a book signing and and

1999
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:15,560
Speaker 1: we were doing questions and I would play the records

2000
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:19,400
Speaker 1: and they were like, so I played remember the time

2001
02:21:19,640 --> 02:21:23,120
Speaker 1: on it? Right? It was like it sounds like the record.

2002
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:26,200
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, this is, but that's when I did it.

2003
02:21:26,440 --> 02:21:29,680
Speaker 1: You re played it over for the play. Oh wow,

2004
02:21:29,800 --> 02:21:32,760
Speaker 1: that's fire, And right in front of everyone was like wow.

2005
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:37,440
Speaker 1: They didn't understand, like, where's the music coming from in

2006
02:21:37,600 --> 02:21:41,680
Speaker 1: the mic? And I'm and it's coming out of the keyboard.

2007
02:21:41,800 --> 02:21:46,320
Speaker 1: It's like, so yeah, next time. However, every every beat

2008
02:21:46,400 --> 02:21:50,120
Speaker 1: that he mimicked, it sounds exactly like yeah, it's like

2009
02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:54,920
Speaker 1: a beat box when you did the records. You know,

2010
02:21:55,240 --> 02:21:59,080
Speaker 1: you know when you make these records. At least I

2011
02:21:59,200 --> 02:22:02,280
Speaker 1: know the music. A lot of my songs I don't

2012
02:22:02,440 --> 02:22:04,680
Speaker 1: because didn't Michael do that. Didn't He used to sound

2013
02:22:04,720 --> 02:22:09,680
Speaker 1: out records like melodies and stuff. Man. I remember We're

2014
02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:13,840
Speaker 1: in a room actually making a joint with a dog

2015
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:17,480
Speaker 1: upright piano and him doing the beat box, and I

2016
02:22:17,600 --> 02:22:21,120
Speaker 1: was like, how am I gonna convince him? Like with

2017
02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:27,960
Speaker 1: a damn upright But he had imagination because he's like,

2018
02:22:28,480 --> 02:22:33,640
Speaker 1: no drum machines, no nothing. You take the piano and

2019
02:22:33,720 --> 02:22:36,800
Speaker 1: I have this idea. Check it out. It goes like this,

2020
02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:49,960
Speaker 1: you're telling me Michael had to beat box. No, no, no,

2021
02:22:50,280 --> 02:22:55,440
Speaker 1: He's be boxing that regularly. And I was like, what

2022
02:22:55,560 --> 02:22:58,240
Speaker 1: am I going to do to that? My mind went

2023
02:22:58,280 --> 02:23:02,600
Speaker 1: to James Brown. He was James Brown, so I went

2024
02:23:09,879 --> 02:23:22,080
Speaker 1: so put that she's just so and he's making this.

2025
02:23:22,320 --> 02:23:28,160
Speaker 1: We're making this on a dog on upright piano. It's

2026
02:23:28,240 --> 02:23:32,320
Speaker 1: like this dude's taking me through college right now, because

2027
02:23:32,480 --> 02:23:35,880
Speaker 1: I ain't never made no reight nothing, creating anything on

2028
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:40,160
Speaker 1: an upright piano. You do that in church, you know.

2029
02:23:41,640 --> 02:23:49,400
Speaker 1: But that's the way he worked spoons and washed you know. Yo,

2030
02:23:49,560 --> 02:23:54,480
Speaker 1: he's straight from the old days. Like that's the way

2031
02:23:54,520 --> 02:24:01,360
Speaker 1: he makes music. Crazy. Look at we're almost done. Jugie

2032
02:24:01,440 --> 02:24:09,680
Speaker 1: Fresh or slick Rick. That's that's drinking. That's some drinking

2033
02:24:11,560 --> 02:24:16,039
Speaker 1: right now. He's like every D like every D make

2034
02:24:16,240 --> 02:24:21,520
Speaker 1: bully man. Yeah, y'all, y'all bullying me, man, that's a

2035
02:24:22,040 --> 02:24:25,360
Speaker 1: that's not a good one. Okay. So this is the

2036
02:24:25,440 --> 02:24:29,920
Speaker 1: last one. The thing about her which is not recogn

2037
02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:35,280
Speaker 1: slick Rick that you would like to say one. Those

2038
02:24:35,320 --> 02:24:39,840
Speaker 1: are my brothers man, and we started out, you know,

2039
02:24:40,280 --> 02:24:43,360
Speaker 1: back in high school. I can't put them against each other.

2040
02:24:43,480 --> 02:24:49,560
Speaker 1: That's like taking that's like putting you against and we

2041
02:24:49,600 --> 02:24:52,880
Speaker 1: don't want to do it exactly. Yeah I would. I'll

2042
02:24:52,920 --> 02:24:56,200
Speaker 1: be get it. Let's drink for them again. Yes, let's

2043
02:24:59,240 --> 02:25:01,080
Speaker 1: drink them the one more time.

2044
02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:04,200
Speaker 2: And all right, so this is the last one before

2045
02:25:04,240 --> 02:25:06,640
Speaker 2: we go back into the interview. I bet y'all know

2046
02:25:06,760 --> 02:25:08,680
Speaker 2: it is loyalty or respect.

2047
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:20,680
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, wow, No, I don't don't for because I'm

2048
02:25:20,680 --> 02:25:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna take a shot just for leaving it right now. Now. Yeah, yeah,

2049
02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:28,280
Speaker 1: we got we got a celebration shot for him right there.

2050
02:25:28,320 --> 02:25:30,840
Speaker 1: That's all right enough, you're holding it down. He held

2051
02:25:30,879 --> 02:25:34,280
Speaker 1: it down, man, that's right. You are holding up the

2052
02:25:34,320 --> 02:25:38,800
Speaker 1: family name. There it is it is. I am going

2053
02:25:38,920 --> 02:25:45,080
Speaker 1: to I'm going to say, because I spoke about corners

2054
02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:57,040
Speaker 1: and circles, so I would choose I would choose them both. Yeah,

2055
02:25:58,480 --> 02:26:03,680
Speaker 1: so quick job. My reason for picking them both, yes,

2056
02:26:03,800 --> 02:26:07,800
Speaker 1: please please, we need a good release. You can't buy

2057
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:13,760
Speaker 1: loyalty and you can't buy respect, both of our goal.

2058
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:19,800
Speaker 1: There's no cost. I don't see why anybody picks one. Yes, exactly,

2059
02:26:20,080 --> 02:26:22,840
Speaker 1: that's for me and him come up with. Really the

2060
02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:26,879
Speaker 1: respect great for loyalty, but I think they go hand

2061
02:26:26,920 --> 02:26:30,600
Speaker 1: in hand. They do. They do, because if you don't

2062
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:33,040
Speaker 1: have the loyalty and the respect, then you ain't got

2063
02:26:33,080 --> 02:26:38,120
Speaker 1: a corner yep right, just for somebody who's going to

2064
02:26:38,400 --> 02:26:42,520
Speaker 1: do this to you and didn't break out right yep right.

2065
02:26:43,280 --> 02:26:45,560
Speaker 1: You don't want people like that. I had to get

2066
02:26:45,640 --> 02:26:48,520
Speaker 1: rid of them. Well, I had to get away from them.

2067
02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:54,640
Speaker 1: You know. It was kind of when you start entering

2068
02:26:55,480 --> 02:27:00,080
Speaker 1: your fifties, you don't want no headaches or stress. You

2069
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:04,359
Speaker 1: don't want know nothing, because when you're getting your sixties,

2070
02:27:05,800 --> 02:27:08,600
Speaker 1: you might as well hang it up because you stressed

2071
02:27:09,160 --> 02:27:15,080
Speaker 1: like you're just done and I'm not done yet, you know,

2072
02:27:15,480 --> 02:27:17,480
Speaker 1: just like we know you well said you can be

2073
02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:21,840
Speaker 1: eight or eighty, you can still keep going. You keep going,

2074
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:25,200
Speaker 1: just keep the stress out. And that's what Quincy said

2075
02:27:25,240 --> 02:27:28,440
Speaker 1: before he passed. He said, you know, what's the one

2076
02:27:28,560 --> 02:27:33,720
Speaker 1: thing that if you had to do it all over again,

2077
02:27:33,959 --> 02:27:37,680
Speaker 1: that you would stay away from him? He said, you

2078
02:27:37,760 --> 02:27:40,240
Speaker 1: know the headaches to stress. You know, let no one

2079
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:43,440
Speaker 1: stress you. It's difficult now, you know, let no one

2080
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:48,959
Speaker 1: spoil your joy. And that's the that's the key to life.

2081
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:54,119
Speaker 1: We're bombarded, bombarded with stress right now. Yes by this too,

2082
02:27:54,480 --> 02:27:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that's true. But our show is the freeivency.

2083
02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:01,040
Speaker 1: If the prophecy is is really we want to give

2084
02:28:01,080 --> 02:28:03,920
Speaker 1: your flowers. Man, We want you to know how much

2085
02:28:04,240 --> 02:28:07,160
Speaker 1: you mean to this game, how much like face to

2086
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:09,680
Speaker 1: face man, the man you said it's better than the

2087
02:28:09,760 --> 02:28:19,840
Speaker 1: grand well on the wall. Let me I just tell you, man,

2088
02:28:21,280 --> 02:28:24,920
Speaker 1: like I A is like I know, I knew, but

2089
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:27,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know how much you produced.

2090
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:30,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know how much. I was like, holy ship,

2091
02:28:30,400 --> 02:28:33,119
Speaker 2: because I already knew it. But then when you're looking

2092
02:28:33,160 --> 02:28:34,960
Speaker 2: at them like there's no way, I'm like, I know

2093
02:28:35,040 --> 02:28:38,920
Speaker 2: everything about Teddy, but these other records are playing and

2094
02:28:38,959 --> 02:28:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute. And that goes back to

2095
02:28:41,680 --> 02:28:46,160
Speaker 2: that that signature sound that's my gift that we yeah,

2096
02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:54,600
Speaker 2: I mean you you but and I just want to

2097
02:28:54,879 --> 02:28:57,160
Speaker 2: tell you, face to face, man, the man like man

2098
02:28:57,360 --> 02:29:01,040
Speaker 2: like you. You you gave so much to our culture,

2099
02:29:01,080 --> 02:29:03,600
Speaker 2: you gave so much to us our people.

2100
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:07,960
Speaker 1: You're still giving and you're still giving, and we appreciate you.

2101
02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:10,480
Speaker 1: We love you. We want you to know that your

2102
02:29:10,640 --> 02:29:16,160
Speaker 1: legacy is cemented in Stone. I appreciate it. Man. We

2103
02:29:16,400 --> 02:29:20,199
Speaker 1: were like, no, no, dead serious like you know actually,

2104
02:29:20,920 --> 02:29:22,920
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take a shot for you. You don't

2105
02:29:26,920 --> 02:29:32,480
Speaker 1: drink that one joint. Okay, okay, I'm starting to hear slurs,

2106
02:29:32,840 --> 02:29:37,680
Speaker 1: but all of our But now let's talk about the book, because.

2107
02:29:38,680 --> 02:29:41,400
Speaker 2: Because I'll tell you this, I'll tell you this about

2108
02:29:41,480 --> 02:29:47,280
Speaker 2: about two. You're a very private guy. You're a very

2109
02:29:47,360 --> 02:29:47,959
Speaker 2: private guy.

2110
02:29:48,120 --> 02:29:52,160
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, yes, indeed. I've been in the

2111
02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 1: industry twenty years, damn there, and people.

2112
02:29:58,320 --> 02:30:00,640
Speaker 2: You're not a person that people talk about. What I

2113
02:30:00,720 --> 02:30:04,120
Speaker 2: mean by that is like the rumor section. You're not

2114
02:30:04,280 --> 02:30:05,680
Speaker 2: in the rumor section, and you're not.

2115
02:30:05,879 --> 02:30:07,200
Speaker 1: You stay out of you stay out of that.

2116
02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:11,240
Speaker 2: But then now you're dropping a book. Oh, the book

2117
02:30:11,320 --> 02:30:16,040
Speaker 2: is out the books, it's out right, So what makes

2118
02:30:16,080 --> 02:30:19,600
Speaker 2: you how do you navigate that, like, like, because you're

2119
02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:21,360
Speaker 2: a private I can tell you a private guy, right,

2120
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:24,240
Speaker 2: how do you live a private.

2121
02:30:23,959 --> 02:30:26,720
Speaker 1: Life but then give a book to the world about

2122
02:30:26,760 --> 02:30:30,560
Speaker 1: your life? I just felt this time I had this

2123
02:30:30,680 --> 02:30:35,280
Speaker 1: book twelve years twelve years plus was thirteen okay, thirteen okay? Yeah?

2124
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:40,000
Speaker 1: How open were you when you very you know, you

2125
02:30:40,160 --> 02:30:44,040
Speaker 1: definitely when you are reading everybody who read it, even

2126
02:30:44,120 --> 02:30:47,800
Speaker 1: now to like my kids, they were like, there's a

2127
02:30:47,840 --> 02:30:50,119
Speaker 1: lot of stuff I did not know in a good

2128
02:30:50,160 --> 02:30:52,640
Speaker 1: way or a bad way. Good like you know, but

2129
02:30:53,160 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 1: some bad Like there was some bad things like to

2130
02:30:56,840 --> 02:30:59,720
Speaker 1: me seeing my life before me and stuff like that

2131
02:31:00,080 --> 02:31:03,160
Speaker 1: that you will read about. I never wanted wanted to

2132
02:31:03,200 --> 02:31:04,960
Speaker 1: tell those stories. And then I say, you know what,

2133
02:31:06,400 --> 02:31:09,119
Speaker 1: I'm getting older now, you know, and I must tell

2134
02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:14,600
Speaker 1: my truth. And someone said to me, you better tell

2135
02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:17,000
Speaker 1: your truth and tell your story before they tell it

2136
02:31:17,360 --> 02:31:21,119
Speaker 1: for someone else. Somebody will tell your story. And I say,

2137
02:31:21,200 --> 02:31:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, I got to beat that. You know, we're

2138
02:31:23,240 --> 02:31:26,200
Speaker 1: coming with the TV film and it's even more than this.

2139
02:31:26,680 --> 02:31:28,680
Speaker 1: We come in with the rooftop film. Is we come

2140
02:31:28,760 --> 02:31:32,240
Speaker 1: with a few things that I think people will want

2141
02:31:32,280 --> 02:31:34,800
Speaker 1: to see. This is an old map some things you

2142
02:31:34,959 --> 02:31:38,039
Speaker 1: read in here don't follow it, and some things you're

2143
02:31:38,080 --> 02:31:39,960
Speaker 1: reading here you'll be like, oh, this is how he

2144
02:31:40,080 --> 02:31:44,480
Speaker 1: did that. I'm going to try that. And it's a tool,

2145
02:31:44,680 --> 02:31:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's a tool, and at the same time

2146
02:31:48,600 --> 02:31:52,760
Speaker 1: it's a collector's item. Because it's my first book. My

2147
02:31:52,840 --> 02:31:56,040
Speaker 1: next book will probably be a children's book. That's fire

2148
02:31:56,959 --> 02:31:58,640
Speaker 1: and the reason why I want to make a children's

2149
02:31:58,640 --> 02:32:02,320
Speaker 1: book because I always had this imaginary friend when I

2150
02:32:02,440 --> 02:32:05,160
Speaker 1: was young, and my parents used to argue and fight,

2151
02:32:06,560 --> 02:32:08,600
Speaker 1: and I say, you know what, this is my way

2152
02:32:08,680 --> 02:32:10,960
Speaker 1: to get away from it. And my imaginary friend was

2153
02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:13,920
Speaker 1: the music Man. So I'm writing The Music Man. It

2154
02:32:14,040 --> 02:32:17,840
Speaker 1: tells you more about the music that inspired me, and

2155
02:32:17,959 --> 02:32:21,720
Speaker 1: the tree of music that inspired me to create, how

2156
02:32:21,800 --> 02:32:26,040
Speaker 1: I created and what made me do it, and the

2157
02:32:26,120 --> 02:32:30,119
Speaker 1: how tos. So this is not the how to, it's

2158
02:32:30,240 --> 02:32:34,240
Speaker 1: just a world map and what did he do? What

2159
02:32:34,400 --> 02:32:39,800
Speaker 1: did he use? You know, more technical aspect. But the

2160
02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:44,120
Speaker 1: children book, the children book will show them this is

2161
02:32:44,200 --> 02:32:47,760
Speaker 1: what you do. It's almost like reading the manual. But

2162
02:32:48,200 --> 02:32:50,120
Speaker 1: I got two more questions, and let me say, I

2163
02:32:50,200 --> 02:32:53,120
Speaker 1: got two more questions, So it's almost like reading the

2164
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Manual of life. How to start music or how to

2165
02:32:58,160 --> 02:33:03,720
Speaker 1: start creation. So I think it would be something specially.

2166
02:33:03,720 --> 02:33:06,000
Speaker 1: It would be music behind it, lots of music. But

2167
02:33:06,120 --> 02:33:08,840
Speaker 1: I love that kids music. Okay, So I have two

2168
02:33:08,879 --> 02:33:12,240
Speaker 1: more questions before I go back and as as jay

2169
02:33:12,320 --> 02:33:16,720
Speaker 1: Z or Nas, why did you do that? Went back

2170
02:33:16,760 --> 02:33:20,000
Speaker 1: into the quick time it's slim? Yeah, this is this

2171
02:33:20,120 --> 02:33:24,360
Speaker 1: is crazy. I went back into it. Oh, because well

2172
02:33:28,320 --> 02:33:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna plead the fifth on that. So we got

2173
02:33:30,360 --> 02:33:33,600
Speaker 1: a drink now, Yeah, definitely felt like I wanted to

2174
02:33:33,680 --> 02:33:37,800
Speaker 1: drink anyway. Yeah, yeah, we know that. But okay, now

2175
02:33:38,480 --> 02:33:39,959
Speaker 1: let me tell you. Let me tell you out quick

2176
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:45,520
Speaker 1: quick quick wick, no cat, no fun fact. Do you

2177
02:33:45,680 --> 02:33:49,879
Speaker 1: know when I was coming up in the studio. When

2178
02:33:49,920 --> 02:33:51,760
Speaker 1: I was coming up in the studio, I was at

2179
02:33:51,800 --> 02:33:56,240
Speaker 1: the studio called power Play, playing queens. Yes, that's exactly. Okay,

2180
02:33:56,360 --> 02:33:57,880
Speaker 1: guess what I made my first record. So I don't

2181
02:33:57,879 --> 02:33:59,960
Speaker 1: know where you're going. My alumni at okay, okay, okay,

2182
02:34:00,240 --> 02:34:04,200
Speaker 1: damn you. My alumni with Nas Nas was and I

2183
02:34:04,680 --> 02:34:09,000
Speaker 1: were at the same studio. He was rapping and starting

2184
02:34:09,080 --> 02:34:14,000
Speaker 1: his you know he wanted to do. I was in

2185
02:34:14,080 --> 02:34:17,240
Speaker 1: the studio working with kids at work, and I was

2186
02:34:17,320 --> 02:34:22,879
Speaker 1: working with Fred mcfalland and Alan George who made somebody

2187
02:34:22,959 --> 02:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Else's Guy, and those guys were teaching me about how

2188
02:34:26,240 --> 02:34:31,360
Speaker 1: to produce. Yeah. Wow, So that was you know, I

2189
02:34:31,440 --> 02:34:35,200
Speaker 1: can't go against Naves now with jay Z. Jay Z,

2190
02:34:35,879 --> 02:34:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, used to come to Virginia and jay Z

2191
02:34:38,360 --> 02:34:44,800
Speaker 1: was the connection to you know, signing Beanie Cigu and

2192
02:34:44,840 --> 02:34:47,120
Speaker 1: all those guys. But they came down to the studio

2193
02:34:47,320 --> 02:34:52,440
Speaker 1: to work with me because I heard Virginia, Virginia. I've

2194
02:34:52,480 --> 02:34:54,840
Speaker 1: ever heard this story that day was supposed to be

2195
02:34:55,240 --> 02:35:00,720
Speaker 1: signed to you and sid y'all need to be with me,

2196
02:35:01,800 --> 02:35:04,000
Speaker 1: not money joking. I don't know how it really came out,

2197
02:35:04,080 --> 02:35:09,560
Speaker 1: but I would I felt like, right now, oh no,

2198
02:35:11,040 --> 02:35:15,000
Speaker 1: But I wasn't. I wasn't ready for them. My thing

2199
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:16,920
Speaker 1: was I was I was more into the R and B.

2200
02:35:18,320 --> 02:35:23,120
Speaker 1: But my my guys and my family from Philly, they

2201
02:35:23,160 --> 02:35:26,200
Speaker 1: were like, yo, they need to be with you, and

2202
02:35:26,280 --> 02:35:28,640
Speaker 1: I kind of sort of wish I would have signed

2203
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:32,440
Speaker 1: at least one of them, you know, I think it

2204
02:35:32,440 --> 02:35:35,040
Speaker 1: would have been which one? Which one? You you were

2205
02:35:35,440 --> 02:35:38,879
Speaker 1: Freeway Freeway, Well I can see that and the reason

2206
02:35:38,920 --> 02:35:41,640
Speaker 1: why because Freeway was more like, you know, to me,

2207
02:35:42,879 --> 02:35:46,880
Speaker 1: it's more like Rex in effect, like I could have

2208
02:35:46,920 --> 02:35:49,920
Speaker 1: done some crazy for him, but I was educated too.

2209
02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:53,720
Speaker 1: He was sick when it came to like yo stories

2210
02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:55,320
Speaker 1: and different things like you if.

2211
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:58,560
Speaker 2: You're related to Rex and effects. I could see Beings

2212
02:35:58,959 --> 02:36:02,600
Speaker 2: and Freeway like that. Yeah as that group, because being

2213
02:36:02,920 --> 02:36:08,120
Speaker 2: was more more like yo, being kicks science. It was

2214
02:36:08,240 --> 02:36:09,760
Speaker 2: more like I love.

2215
02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love being, like I really like like yeah,

2216
02:36:15,600 --> 02:36:17,560
Speaker 1: so I ain't gonna What I'm trying to say is

2217
02:36:17,640 --> 02:36:19,840
Speaker 1: like what you what you're saying is like if I

2218
02:36:19,879 --> 02:36:22,560
Speaker 1: would have seen them together with that, oh, that would

2219
02:36:22,560 --> 02:36:25,000
Speaker 1: have been crazy, but that would have been another creation

2220
02:36:25,120 --> 02:36:30,000
Speaker 1: of like so you property, did you have the property?

2221
02:36:30,120 --> 02:36:32,720
Speaker 1: Or just that was just me. It was everyone was

2222
02:36:34,320 --> 02:36:39,600
Speaker 1: my brothers, the Bias brothers and guns young guns. Yeah

2223
02:36:40,160 --> 02:36:44,920
Speaker 1: so so so when they brought him down, they all

2224
02:36:45,040 --> 02:36:46,880
Speaker 1: used to come down just to hang with me. And

2225
02:36:47,720 --> 02:36:50,560
Speaker 1: you know when they told free and them, yo, y'all

2226
02:36:50,600 --> 02:36:52,920
Speaker 1: going to see Teddy ally it was like yo, they

2227
02:36:53,080 --> 02:36:56,440
Speaker 1: was excited about it. But when Jay was there, it

2228
02:36:56,560 --> 02:37:01,360
Speaker 1: was like we see the guy like Michael Jackson of rap.

2229
02:37:02,040 --> 02:37:04,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like James did to see you. Yeah,

2230
02:37:04,640 --> 02:37:07,760
Speaker 1: he was we was working on you. Belong to the city. Oh,

2231
02:37:12,400 --> 02:37:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm in there making the beat. So wait, this is

2232
02:37:15,240 --> 02:37:22,240
Speaker 1: happened at that same time. That's crazy. He's gonna be mocking.

2233
02:37:25,560 --> 02:37:30,560
Speaker 1: I ain't see not one paper with the deal. I

2234
02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:36,800
Speaker 1: was like, Sanna jane't write nothing. He didn't write nothing.

2235
02:37:37,080 --> 02:37:39,440
Speaker 1: Everything was just from his head, right, because that's the

2236
02:37:39,440 --> 02:37:44,960
Speaker 1: way he wrote. Right. I'm like, Wow, that's history. So

2237
02:37:45,080 --> 02:37:47,280
Speaker 1: I got I got to work with the Michael Jackson

2238
02:37:47,320 --> 02:37:52,600
Speaker 1: of rap Damn big up? Or should I say to

2239
02:37:52,680 --> 02:37:58,880
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra, Yeah, the Frank Sinatra Jackson. So if you

2240
02:37:58,959 --> 02:38:07,400
Speaker 1: want to put it, put in perspective, Frank Jackson, Frank Jackson.

2241
02:38:09,920 --> 02:38:16,200
Speaker 1: That's that's that's crazy. You call me Frank Jackson character.

2242
02:38:18,040 --> 02:38:20,560
Speaker 1: The only time I worked with jay Z I worked

2243
02:38:20,840 --> 02:38:23,560
Speaker 1: on the R. Kelly record. It's me R Kelly and

2244
02:38:24,040 --> 02:38:28,400
Speaker 1: me R Kelly, jay Z and Cameron. Wow, did I

2245
02:38:28,440 --> 02:38:35,000
Speaker 1: say this part of the interview? Man safe? It's real ship.

2246
02:38:37,200 --> 02:38:41,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So now I'm moving on. We write this book.

2247
02:38:43,760 --> 02:38:45,600
Speaker 2: This is the first time you're kind of like, you

2248
02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:48,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Everyone knows Teddy is a very

2249
02:38:48,879 --> 02:38:52,680
Speaker 2: protective person. He doesn't is there something in your mind

2250
02:38:52,720 --> 02:38:55,640
Speaker 2: that you say? Okay, I wrote this and now I

2251
02:38:55,760 --> 02:38:58,440
Speaker 2: have to like kind of like, you know, stand behind me.

2252
02:38:58,600 --> 02:39:00,040
Speaker 2: I have to kind of like stand behind it. I

2253
02:39:00,080 --> 02:39:00,640
Speaker 2: have to stand up.

2254
02:39:00,680 --> 02:39:04,760
Speaker 1: I stand by everything that's in this book here because

2255
02:39:05,840 --> 02:39:13,280
Speaker 1: it's literally, I would say, three and a half decades

2256
02:39:13,360 --> 02:39:19,400
Speaker 1: of my life, you know. And even like my son's mother,

2257
02:39:20,400 --> 02:39:25,039
Speaker 1: she said, you you owe this. This is the first book.

2258
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:29,280
Speaker 1: I said, how you know I'm doing the second? She said,

2259
02:39:29,360 --> 02:39:32,800
Speaker 1: because you got you got a lot more than you

2260
02:39:32,920 --> 02:39:36,600
Speaker 1: need to talk about, Like you got a whole lot more.

2261
02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:39,480
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't even talk about what really happened

2262
02:39:39,480 --> 02:39:42,280
Speaker 1: in the business, what happened to you and different things.

2263
02:39:42,320 --> 02:39:46,119
Speaker 1: I said, it's not time for it. Do you think

2264
02:39:46,160 --> 02:39:50,640
Speaker 1: about the era? No, No, I'm talking about respect to her,

2265
02:39:50,959 --> 02:39:54,800
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about that's read part. You know things

2266
02:39:54,840 --> 02:39:57,960
Speaker 1: you just got a hold. You got volumes. Yeah, you

2267
02:39:58,080 --> 02:40:03,880
Speaker 1: got a hold. But my next thing is creating the

2268
02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:09,480
Speaker 1: New Jack Swing Symphony Tour and performance. And it's a

2269
02:40:09,520 --> 02:40:14,400
Speaker 1: whole symphony for I already bought my tickets. Everybody in tuxedos,

2270
02:40:14,520 --> 02:40:17,840
Speaker 1: we come in here. We're gonna use the Miami Symphony Orchestra,

2271
02:40:18,800 --> 02:40:21,400
Speaker 1: and I want to share my music that way. That's dope.

2272
02:40:22,000 --> 02:40:24,960
Speaker 1: And I think it'll be so flying. Then I have

2273
02:40:25,120 --> 02:40:27,520
Speaker 1: the G two point oh, the Guy to point Oh

2274
02:40:28,280 --> 02:40:34,400
Speaker 1: album coming this summer, and yeah, coming back out the

2275
02:40:34,520 --> 02:40:38,680
Speaker 1: new Guy, the New Guy. Yeah literally yeah. But you

2276
02:40:39,040 --> 02:40:41,520
Speaker 1: I wish, I wish, I wish I could have invited

2277
02:40:42,040 --> 02:40:44,600
Speaker 1: to the concert. I would, I would have been there first.

2278
02:40:44,840 --> 02:40:51,280
Speaker 1: We ended it with Franky Beverley. We are one. That's

2279
02:40:51,360 --> 02:40:55,120
Speaker 1: the singers I got. And these these are these are

2280
02:40:55,560 --> 02:40:59,560
Speaker 1: new people. Yeah, these you you know them. You don't

2281
02:40:59,560 --> 02:41:02,360
Speaker 1: know the new Guy. Yeah, these are new people. But

2282
02:41:02,600 --> 02:41:05,680
Speaker 1: you remember. So I just took some all star singers,

2283
02:41:06,360 --> 02:41:08,680
Speaker 1: you know how r L and all of them, they

2284
02:41:08,720 --> 02:41:11,520
Speaker 1: just put like a super group together. I just took

2285
02:41:11,560 --> 02:41:14,800
Speaker 1: some all star singers and created the Woontange Klan of singers.

2286
02:41:14,959 --> 02:41:18,960
Speaker 1: I like that ship. You just got me and I

2287
02:41:19,080 --> 02:41:23,400
Speaker 1: got my Frankie Beverly voice. I have my R. Kelly voice,

2288
02:41:24,120 --> 02:41:27,040
Speaker 1: and I have my Charlie Wilson, and then I have

2289
02:41:27,240 --> 02:41:32,400
Speaker 1: my El DeBarge. So that's that matchup right there. That's

2290
02:41:32,480 --> 02:41:35,600
Speaker 1: a mashup. When you hear the voices, you be like,

2291
02:41:37,360 --> 02:41:39,680
Speaker 1: how did he do it? Like I did a show

2292
02:41:40,360 --> 02:41:44,920
Speaker 1: in Boston and Ronnie de Vogue was there. He called

2293
02:41:45,879 --> 02:41:48,960
Speaker 1: he called my guy. He said, how did Teddy do that?

2294
02:41:49,120 --> 02:41:53,720
Speaker 1: How did he duplicate the voices of Black Street Guy

2295
02:41:56,280 --> 02:41:59,680
Speaker 1: and the guys? He said, he's an architect we respect.

2296
02:42:01,720 --> 02:42:05,800
Speaker 1: So he said, yo, is he going to be Is

2297
02:42:05,840 --> 02:42:07,800
Speaker 1: he going to take that on tour? And I say, ye,

2298
02:42:07,800 --> 02:42:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it on tour. I want to take

2299
02:42:10,440 --> 02:42:12,040
Speaker 1: it as my purpose. I didn't want to do the

2300
02:42:12,120 --> 02:42:15,840
Speaker 1: same thing Babyfaced. It was go on tour with the

2301
02:42:16,480 --> 02:42:19,360
Speaker 1: all star singers and people not know who they are.

2302
02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:21,640
Speaker 1: So I just that's why I say, got two point oh.

2303
02:42:21,879 --> 02:42:26,160
Speaker 1: Not taking anything away from Guy because guys original here,

2304
02:42:26,440 --> 02:42:31,480
Speaker 1: you know. But I wanted to stay consistent and I

2305
02:42:31,560 --> 02:42:33,960
Speaker 1: didn't the Black Street thing. I didn't want to do that.

2306
02:42:34,120 --> 02:42:36,959
Speaker 1: The guys are still doing what they're doing, but Aaron

2307
02:42:37,040 --> 02:42:39,840
Speaker 1: and Damien, you know, they're not on the road, and

2308
02:42:39,959 --> 02:42:42,480
Speaker 1: we have to be consistent. I'm tired of my music

2309
02:42:42,600 --> 02:42:46,160
Speaker 1: just sitting dormant and people are not being able to

2310
02:42:46,360 --> 02:42:50,640
Speaker 1: enjoy enjoy it on stage, you know, So now I'm

2311
02:42:50,720 --> 02:42:55,160
Speaker 1: giving them that. People are walking away happy. You know, Dad,

2312
02:42:55,320 --> 02:42:57,080
Speaker 1: this is a great show. I didn't expect that. We

2313
02:42:57,240 --> 02:43:03,200
Speaker 1: just did this Zoolu Ball twenty thousand people headline, and

2314
02:43:03,360 --> 02:43:05,760
Speaker 1: people were amazed, like they didn't know what to expect

2315
02:43:06,640 --> 02:43:09,680
Speaker 1: until we gave them the songs, and it sounds like

2316
02:43:09,879 --> 02:43:14,000
Speaker 1: the music. It's like that. At least he gave us

2317
02:43:15,120 --> 02:43:17,200
Speaker 1: the record. He gave us the album, he gave us

2318
02:43:17,320 --> 02:43:20,160
Speaker 1: the picnic, he gave us the club records. You know.

2319
02:43:20,360 --> 02:43:22,800
Speaker 1: So that's my goal is just to take it on

2320
02:43:22,920 --> 02:43:26,160
Speaker 1: the road. We have a tour coming up, we have

2321
02:43:26,280 --> 02:43:30,320
Speaker 1: over twenty five days and I just want to enjoy

2322
02:43:30,360 --> 02:43:32,960
Speaker 1: the stage again. That's fine.

2323
02:43:33,040 --> 02:43:35,480
Speaker 2: So let me ask you with that being said, right,

2324
02:43:36,959 --> 02:43:38,720
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a solo artist and I'm part of

2325
02:43:38,800 --> 02:43:42,280
Speaker 2: a group of part of Pona Noriega, I'm part of

2326
02:43:42,440 --> 02:43:49,760
Speaker 2: Drinks Dream Champions is what we are doing. Are you

2327
02:43:49,879 --> 02:43:52,720
Speaker 2: more comfortable being solo? Are you more comfortable being in

2328
02:43:52,800 --> 02:43:53,119
Speaker 2: the group.

2329
02:43:53,200 --> 02:43:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm never solo. I'm not solo now. I'm a team player.

2330
02:43:57,920 --> 02:44:01,560
Speaker 1: I always have to come with a team me. I'm

2331
02:44:01,640 --> 02:44:05,720
Speaker 1: not gonna if you see me solo. I'm doing like

2332
02:44:05,800 --> 02:44:08,720
Speaker 1: an E d M album with Talkbox and you know,

2333
02:44:08,959 --> 02:44:12,800
Speaker 1: Voke quarters and singing records that involved. I don't know.

2334
02:44:16,360 --> 02:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Music is like music is my put me on that.

2335
02:44:30,080 --> 02:44:34,640
Speaker 1: But but I want to make music that that people

2336
02:44:34,720 --> 02:44:37,600
Speaker 1: can really enjoy the music because most people like before

2337
02:44:37,720 --> 02:44:41,280
Speaker 1: hearing lyrics, people like to beat. So that's why I

2338
02:44:41,320 --> 02:44:43,320
Speaker 1: want to give them with the with the vol quoder

2339
02:44:43,520 --> 02:44:46,360
Speaker 1: talk box, just kind of taking you there and and

2340
02:44:46,800 --> 02:44:50,160
Speaker 1: and it's like it would be like ecstasy to them.

2341
02:44:50,560 --> 02:44:53,879
Speaker 1: You know, they just enjoying the music and just going hard.

2342
02:44:54,000 --> 02:44:56,800
Speaker 1: And I just want to be able to do with

2343
02:44:56,920 --> 02:45:00,840
Speaker 1: these DJs, be doing making like I was knowledge, just

2344
02:45:00,879 --> 02:45:02,560
Speaker 1: step in the room with a bunch of lights and

2345
02:45:02,600 --> 02:45:06,520
Speaker 1: ship and you're just playing. Boy. Boris he's a producer

2346
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:09,240
Speaker 1: right here. Boris rolling the blunts over here. Oh yeah,

2347
02:45:09,440 --> 02:45:11,520
Speaker 1: he was like, is he DJing? He's like, because that's

2348
02:45:11,560 --> 02:45:13,760
Speaker 1: what they do. Now they got to go out and

2349
02:45:13,800 --> 02:45:16,640
Speaker 1: but I used to. I used to. But my thing

2350
02:45:16,800 --> 02:45:20,560
Speaker 1: is coming with the talk box. There's nobody coming like

2351
02:45:20,640 --> 02:45:24,440
Speaker 1: that since that punk, right and now that they retired,

2352
02:45:24,600 --> 02:45:28,040
Speaker 1: I said, yo, let me create something and just see

2353
02:45:28,080 --> 02:45:30,080
Speaker 1: what people feel about it. That's not the same as

2354
02:45:30,160 --> 02:45:33,760
Speaker 1: Roger Troutman was doing. Yeah, that's what I say. I

2355
02:45:33,920 --> 02:45:37,280
Speaker 1: was pasted that touch. You know. Roger actually came to

2356
02:45:37,400 --> 02:45:41,119
Speaker 1: my studio and one thing he said to me, he said, man,

2357
02:45:41,280 --> 02:45:44,400
Speaker 1: you better not stop. He invented that, right? No, No,

2358
02:45:44,600 --> 02:45:47,240
Speaker 1: who did in that? It was invented between I feel

2359
02:45:47,320 --> 02:45:51,920
Speaker 1: like it's between him, but I think it's Peter Frampton. Okay, yeah,

2360
02:45:52,600 --> 02:45:55,240
Speaker 1: because he played it with the guitar. Now Roger played

2361
02:45:55,280 --> 02:45:57,520
Speaker 1: with the guitar, but he also played with the people.

2362
02:45:57,879 --> 02:46:00,600
Speaker 1: It was the idea of using the tube, ye, right, okay,

2363
02:46:00,840 --> 02:46:04,480
Speaker 1: And that's what I do now. And I've got a

2364
02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:06,800
Speaker 1: lot of signature records out there where they know it's

2365
02:46:06,840 --> 02:46:08,760
Speaker 1: me because a lot of a lot of people were playing.

2366
02:46:09,040 --> 02:46:12,240
Speaker 1: They're playing the talk box, but you know it's it's

2367
02:46:12,720 --> 02:46:15,600
Speaker 1: not the sound that I have. Would you consider that analog?

2368
02:46:16,040 --> 02:46:20,280
Speaker 1: That's very analog? No, no, analog. I just lost my

2369
02:46:20,360 --> 02:46:33,680
Speaker 1: train of thought. No, that's not auto tune analog. It's before.

2370
02:46:35,160 --> 02:46:36,880
Speaker 1: You don't think it would No, No, I know it's before,

2371
02:46:36,920 --> 02:46:39,440
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, would you consider that? Could that be

2372
02:46:39,480 --> 02:46:43,760
Speaker 1: a description for it auto rather than I wouldn't even

2373
02:46:43,800 --> 02:46:53,840
Speaker 1: say that. That's disrespectful. Okay, I know it's straight the tube,

2374
02:46:53,879 --> 02:46:57,880
Speaker 1: it's the talk box, the auto tune. You know, I

2375
02:46:58,000 --> 02:47:01,640
Speaker 1: started with the auto tune before a Ta Pain and

2376
02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:06,000
Speaker 1: before Ridey Jerkins. You can look at my testimony when

2377
02:47:06,040 --> 02:47:08,760
Speaker 1: it first came out. They bought it to me to

2378
02:47:08,879 --> 02:47:13,640
Speaker 1: test beta tests, and I was like, I don't want that.

2379
02:47:14,160 --> 02:47:16,680
Speaker 1: I was like, but I used it because I felt

2380
02:47:16,760 --> 02:47:19,320
Speaker 1: like I didn't have to use it like how they're

2381
02:47:19,400 --> 02:47:22,600
Speaker 1: using it. I used it just to keep like it

2382
02:47:22,760 --> 02:47:25,800
Speaker 1: was just too auto tune, yes, like not too like

2383
02:47:26,160 --> 02:47:31,560
Speaker 1: like that, just but it was the same thing. It's

2384
02:47:31,640 --> 02:47:33,800
Speaker 1: just you just turn it up more and you got

2385
02:47:34,080 --> 02:47:37,400
Speaker 1: it sounds like machine in different ways. Yes, And you

2386
02:47:37,520 --> 02:47:39,400
Speaker 1: remember one of the records that you used to and

2387
02:47:39,760 --> 02:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I'll do the Black Street records. The second one. It

2388
02:47:44,360 --> 02:47:49,680
Speaker 1: was to keep the singers on key, not me, because

2389
02:47:49,680 --> 02:47:52,520
Speaker 1: I didn't my my thing wasn't really singing. I was

2390
02:47:52,640 --> 02:47:54,640
Speaker 1: just like rap saying, you know, so I didn't have

2391
02:47:54,720 --> 02:47:58,840
Speaker 1: to stay on key. I just no, Deity was not

2392
02:47:59,000 --> 02:48:06,040
Speaker 1: on key. I was off key. But people they received it,

2393
02:48:06,400 --> 02:48:10,320
Speaker 1: you know. I bought the point across and that made

2394
02:48:10,360 --> 02:48:12,560
Speaker 1: me just say, dak, I could do more because it's

2395
02:48:12,560 --> 02:48:16,640
Speaker 1: almost like Johnny Guitar Watson, it was real mother for

2396
02:48:16,800 --> 02:48:21,280
Speaker 1: you that wasn't on key. So I mothered myself after them.

2397
02:48:22,200 --> 02:48:28,960
Speaker 1: George Clinton definitely not definitely not on key, but no, no,

2398
02:48:30,000 --> 02:48:34,520
Speaker 1: all right, then you had, uh the Boskag. I mean

2399
02:48:34,520 --> 02:48:36,760
Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing. No, it's a great thing

2400
02:48:36,879 --> 02:48:43,560
Speaker 1: because yeah, Bosskag, you know what that is. You got

2401
02:48:43,680 --> 02:48:47,320
Speaker 1: to see that black boy over there running scared. This

2402
02:48:47,440 --> 02:48:51,920
Speaker 1: is on in the bottle. I thought that was on key, No,

2403
02:48:52,080 --> 02:48:56,120
Speaker 1: that was not he. I was in it out. I

2404
02:48:56,240 --> 02:49:01,800
Speaker 1: was in and out. You know. I think, Okay, let's

2405
02:49:01,840 --> 02:49:05,640
Speaker 1: go to t Pain. Incredible singing. Did y'all know that? Absolutely? Yeah? Okay,

2406
02:49:06,160 --> 02:49:10,039
Speaker 1: so and incredible rapper as well. T Pain can sing

2407
02:49:10,200 --> 02:49:14,800
Speaker 1: off key and people will still receive it. Yep. He's

2408
02:49:14,879 --> 02:49:18,960
Speaker 1: just never tried it. M he's never tried it. But

2409
02:49:19,040 --> 02:49:22,400
Speaker 1: I guarantee you because he knows his notes. I know

2410
02:49:22,560 --> 02:49:24,640
Speaker 1: my notes. How I learned how to sing is because

2411
02:49:24,680 --> 02:49:27,440
Speaker 1: I play keys. So if you know what you're playing

2412
02:49:27,520 --> 02:49:30,240
Speaker 1: on here and I play by ear. If you got

2413
02:49:30,360 --> 02:49:32,760
Speaker 1: to ear for keys, you gotta ear for a voice.

2414
02:49:33,879 --> 02:49:36,440
Speaker 1: You just gotta have a voice. Oh you got to

2415
02:49:36,480 --> 02:49:38,920
Speaker 1: have a sound and you could play your voice. Is

2416
02:49:38,959 --> 02:49:43,119
Speaker 1: what happens in that mode, which gives you a lot

2417
02:49:43,160 --> 02:49:46,160
Speaker 1: of freedom in your voice, like to do things, trust

2418
02:49:46,280 --> 02:49:52,160
Speaker 1: be created. I felt like when I played when I

2419
02:49:52,200 --> 02:49:55,920
Speaker 1: played vot quarters. Now it's two different things. Voe quarterer.

2420
02:49:56,000 --> 02:49:58,440
Speaker 1: You can play chords, and that's how you hear, like

2421
02:49:59,240 --> 02:50:01,760
Speaker 1: all of the background on Black Street and on it,

2422
02:50:01,959 --> 02:50:06,680
Speaker 1: that's full quarter. All of those harmonies that's folk, that's

2423
02:50:06,760 --> 02:50:10,160
Speaker 1: full quarter. But the talkbox is single. But you can

2424
02:50:10,200 --> 02:50:12,840
Speaker 1: also played chords with the talkbox. Kind of feels a

2425
02:50:12,879 --> 02:50:16,840
Speaker 1: little distorted because it's a mono, but it's better to

2426
02:50:16,920 --> 02:50:21,000
Speaker 1: play it as a solo. You you get the sound

2427
02:50:21,040 --> 02:50:21,320
Speaker 1: out of it.

2428
02:50:24,840 --> 02:50:28,760
Speaker 2: So let me let me ask you, right, Because we

2429
02:50:28,879 --> 02:50:31,039
Speaker 2: had nas on hair and I asked nods. I said,

2430
02:50:31,680 --> 02:50:33,240
Speaker 2: is there anybody that ever told you no?

2431
02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:34,200
Speaker 1: Right?

2432
02:50:35,120 --> 02:50:38,240
Speaker 2: And I feel like you're You're a person that I

2433
02:50:38,280 --> 02:50:40,280
Speaker 2: don't think anyone can tell no to it.

2434
02:50:43,440 --> 02:50:52,920
Speaker 1: You're lying. I've been told no? Okay have you if

2435
02:50:53,000 --> 02:50:56,760
Speaker 1: you were like sure? Who who has told you no?

2436
02:50:56,959 --> 02:50:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't think no one can tell you? Who told

2437
02:50:58,840 --> 02:51:01,840
Speaker 1: me I'm gonna put on Front Street too? Should I

2438
02:51:01,879 --> 02:51:09,720
Speaker 1: take a shot? Versa shot? Shot? Mean? Yes, I think

2439
02:51:09,760 --> 02:51:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm smooth enough to say this, okay, go ahead. Barry

2440
02:51:12,320 --> 02:51:17,800
Speaker 1: Wise told me no, very Wise. But that's an executive. Yeah,

2441
02:51:18,080 --> 02:51:21,400
Speaker 1: that's the people to tell you no. Oh my damn.

2442
02:51:21,680 --> 02:51:26,000
Speaker 1: Those are the people to tell you. Man. It's like

2443
02:51:26,160 --> 02:51:30,360
Speaker 1: you you disappointed, like I thought I had something. He said, no,

2444
02:51:30,480 --> 02:51:35,600
Speaker 1: the guy right, I wasn't ready I put them on

2445
02:51:35,680 --> 02:51:38,040
Speaker 1: Front Street. I wasn't just saying a lot of record

2446
02:51:38,080 --> 02:51:42,360
Speaker 1: company executives don't have the air, okay, I mean they

2447
02:51:42,520 --> 02:51:45,160
Speaker 1: just got the business sense. Has there ever been an

2448
02:51:45,280 --> 02:51:50,720
Speaker 1: artist who told you know, no, no, not that, not

2449
02:51:50,840 --> 02:51:55,600
Speaker 1: that I know, because I mean mostly just when they

2450
02:51:55,680 --> 02:51:58,800
Speaker 1: get in the room, like who would tell for well no,

2451
02:51:59,879 --> 02:52:05,840
Speaker 1: I kind of told him no one time. I remember,

2452
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:19,760
Speaker 1: you did learn, but let's tell you off.

2453
02:52:21,520 --> 02:52:24,120
Speaker 2: But let me actually, so when I recognized that now,

2454
02:52:24,160 --> 02:52:27,640
Speaker 2: I said that Prince told him no because he didn't

2455
02:52:27,680 --> 02:52:28,840
Speaker 2: own his own publishing.

2456
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:29,120
Speaker 4: Right.

2457
02:52:29,879 --> 02:52:32,360
Speaker 2: Has anybody ever said, because and you just you just

2458
02:52:32,560 --> 02:52:35,199
Speaker 2: you just said to us, out of twenty three years,

2459
02:52:35,440 --> 02:52:37,080
Speaker 2: you just now own your own publishing.

2460
02:52:37,280 --> 02:52:43,720
Speaker 1: Has there anybody that ever thirty five years? Thirty five years? Damn, damn,

2461
02:52:44,280 --> 02:52:46,720
Speaker 1: I put the twist of a version, you know, thirty

2462
02:52:46,760 --> 02:52:50,320
Speaker 1: five years. So that goes with publishing and with owning

2463
02:52:50,440 --> 02:52:52,959
Speaker 1: of the masters? Yeah, well yeah, I got I got

2464
02:52:53,560 --> 02:52:57,120
Speaker 1: seven other masters in my vault right now. Masters. And

2465
02:52:57,200 --> 02:53:00,280
Speaker 1: guess who gave it to me? It was actually at

2466
02:53:00,360 --> 02:53:02,680
Speaker 1: the studio, the first studio I did guy, I had

2467
02:53:02,720 --> 02:53:09,040
Speaker 1: about six to seven hundred twenty four tracks, and I

2468
02:53:09,200 --> 02:53:14,440
Speaker 1: have to give flowers to two people. And that's chub Rock,

2469
02:53:14,920 --> 02:53:18,680
Speaker 1: who gave me a lot of mine. Man ear, he

2470
02:53:18,760 --> 02:53:21,920
Speaker 1: gave me a lot of my plaques and stuff back

2471
02:53:23,120 --> 02:53:30,400
Speaker 1: and Salammy, Salam, bigger salam. He gave me my dog

2472
02:53:30,520 --> 02:53:36,880
Speaker 1: on masters, all seven hundred and something. I seen this stuff, man,

2473
02:53:36,920 --> 02:53:38,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't even get it in the I thought I

2474
02:53:38,560 --> 02:53:40,640
Speaker 1: could get a small story, she said. He said, no,

2475
02:53:40,760 --> 02:53:46,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna need cause your tapes was most of the studio. Wow. Okay,

2476
02:53:47,680 --> 02:53:51,640
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on chub Rock and Salammy. No,

2477
02:53:51,920 --> 02:53:54,920
Speaker 1: this is that Chubb gave me like my plaques, So

2478
02:53:55,040 --> 02:53:56,840
Speaker 1: I gave your pla So I guess what he's trying

2479
02:53:56,840 --> 02:53:59,560
Speaker 1: to say is why are they holding them right? No?

2480
02:53:59,800 --> 02:54:04,760
Speaker 1: They well, you know, Slim bought the studio like he

2481
02:54:04,920 --> 02:54:08,280
Speaker 1: bought the studio that I did. The guy out bought

2482
02:54:08,320 --> 02:54:11,800
Speaker 1: the automatically the masters. No, they were there. It was

2483
02:54:11,879 --> 02:54:15,080
Speaker 1: just just trying to return them back to the original. Wow,

2484
02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:20,640
Speaker 1: and I was upstanding, so fuck you know, Slam said

2485
02:54:20,720 --> 02:54:23,360
Speaker 1: to me. He said, first of all, I got something

2486
02:54:23,360 --> 02:54:26,160
Speaker 1: special to tell you, but I also got this to

2487
02:54:26,280 --> 02:54:29,920
Speaker 1: tell you you remember the little boy that was actually

2488
02:54:31,280 --> 02:54:33,600
Speaker 1: in the studio while he was making Groove Me and

2489
02:54:34,000 --> 02:54:36,120
Speaker 1: I like and all of those records, and it was

2490
02:54:36,200 --> 02:54:39,160
Speaker 1: the little kid. And you remember my father used to

2491
02:54:39,200 --> 02:54:42,520
Speaker 1: bring me to the studio. I said, you was that

2492
02:54:42,720 --> 02:54:43,240
Speaker 1: little kid?

2493
02:54:44,080 --> 02:54:44,120
Speaker 3: No?

2494
02:54:44,360 --> 02:54:47,480
Speaker 1: That that that is the fuck? This slom with the

2495
02:54:47,600 --> 02:54:50,440
Speaker 1: little kid that was in the studio while I was

2496
02:54:50,560 --> 02:54:54,880
Speaker 1: making I like in all those records at seventeen, eighteen,

2497
02:54:55,040 --> 02:54:58,240
Speaker 1: nineteen years old, and now he became a super producer.

2498
02:54:58,600 --> 02:55:04,880
Speaker 1: Straight to that, trying to give you your flowers, Salon Reamy.

2499
02:55:05,920 --> 02:55:10,480
Speaker 1: He should be on here, no family, Yeah, he should

2500
02:55:10,480 --> 02:55:12,760
Speaker 1: be on here. You're right. He got so much man,

2501
02:55:12,879 --> 02:55:17,360
Speaker 1: so much history. Man, he's would be I just feel

2502
02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:19,600
Speaker 1: so honded to be a part of it, you know,

2503
02:55:20,440 --> 02:55:26,400
Speaker 1: because he goes back, Yeah, he go back. That is

2504
02:55:26,440 --> 02:55:29,320
Speaker 1: so dope. You want to read this question in case

2505
02:55:29,360 --> 02:55:31,600
Speaker 1: they sentenced person. I don't know. It seems like sonny,

2506
02:55:33,560 --> 02:55:35,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. You want me to read it? Just

2507
02:55:35,760 --> 02:55:37,640
Speaker 1: I just don't want it. I just feel like I

2508
02:55:37,680 --> 02:55:41,520
Speaker 1: feel like they they attacked me. You're not even gonna

2509
02:55:41,520 --> 02:55:46,800
Speaker 1: correct anything. Is it true that he did the winning

2510
02:55:46,840 --> 02:55:53,200
Speaker 1: Houston step by step record? Yeah? He did it. Yes,

2511
02:55:53,600 --> 02:55:57,840
Speaker 1: I did the remix because they couldn't read it. For

2512
02:55:57,959 --> 02:56:00,920
Speaker 1: some reason, it became the RCT it. Oh, it became

2513
02:56:01,040 --> 02:56:04,080
Speaker 1: the main record. You know. Of course people get say,

2514
02:56:04,440 --> 02:56:06,320
Speaker 1: you get a certain amount to do a song, and

2515
02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:08,040
Speaker 1: then you get certain amount to do a remix. They

2516
02:56:08,120 --> 02:56:09,760
Speaker 1: called the remix, so they have to pay.

2517
02:56:10,440 --> 02:56:10,720
Speaker 4: And they.

2518
02:56:12,760 --> 02:56:15,480
Speaker 1: That way, they wound up turning the record, the remix,

2519
02:56:15,600 --> 02:56:23,520
Speaker 1: the record. It's amazing, It's okay, it's okay, I take it.

2520
02:56:24,680 --> 02:56:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't like know these questions, worry. This is amazing

2521
02:56:36,080 --> 02:56:40,240
Speaker 1: as an artist. Ever made you cry in the studio? What? Yeah? No,

2522
02:56:40,360 --> 02:56:44,920
Speaker 1: I made artists cry? Okay, let's do that. Let's follow up?

2523
02:56:45,000 --> 02:56:50,400
Speaker 1: And who did you make cry? Follow up? And say

2524
02:56:50,400 --> 02:56:59,200
Speaker 1: it in the Michael Jackson voice? Okay, scary spice, that's

2525
02:56:59,200 --> 02:57:07,119
Speaker 1: not the Michael jack the voices scary girls. Yes, okay,

2526
02:57:07,120 --> 02:57:11,000
Speaker 1: what's happening? I didn't mean you. But when you kind

2527
02:57:11,000 --> 02:57:13,240
Speaker 1: of tell all this, you know you ain't singing it right?

2528
02:57:13,400 --> 02:57:20,600
Speaker 1: You guys sing you know what you say? She's like,

2529
02:57:21,080 --> 02:57:24,000
Speaker 1: can you give me a minute to cry? I was like, whoa?

2530
02:57:25,720 --> 02:57:28,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say, you know, like she

2531
02:57:28,360 --> 02:57:33,720
Speaker 1: was the first and then the second second was a

2532
02:57:33,840 --> 02:57:38,640
Speaker 1: K pop artist. Her name was Tiffany Is Tiffany Tiffany

2533
02:57:38,800 --> 02:57:43,880
Speaker 1: from Yeah from Korea Girls Girls Generation. It was no, no,

2534
02:57:44,800 --> 02:57:47,680
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I love Korea because I

2535
02:57:47,800 --> 02:57:50,040
Speaker 1: love them for that. And then do you know about

2536
02:57:50,040 --> 02:57:57,360
Speaker 1: the birthdays? Like their birthday is different than ours? Like

2537
02:57:58,160 --> 02:58:01,840
Speaker 1: the birthdays you won when you come up? I was like,

2538
02:58:02,000 --> 02:58:05,800
Speaker 1: what you won when you come out of the womb.

2539
02:58:05,920 --> 02:58:08,040
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. I just told my son that.

2540
02:58:08,440 --> 02:58:12,240
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, you really chill. Yeah right, because when

2541
02:58:12,280 --> 02:58:15,280
Speaker 1: you came out, you was one right, I got to

2542
02:58:15,520 --> 02:58:21,240
Speaker 1: my whole family. No Korea and then another thing. So

2543
02:58:21,600 --> 02:58:25,520
Speaker 1: when they go to school, they go to school. They

2544
02:58:25,600 --> 02:58:28,960
Speaker 1: go to school from eight to eight, yeah, and they

2545
02:58:29,040 --> 02:58:33,400
Speaker 1: learn algebra, they learn everything, and then rocket science some

2546
02:58:33,640 --> 02:58:35,960
Speaker 1: of them. That's why they got so many K pop

2547
02:58:36,080 --> 02:58:38,400
Speaker 1: artists because most of them don't want to be in

2548
02:58:38,480 --> 02:58:43,360
Speaker 1: school all those hours, so they chose music. That's their career.

2549
02:58:43,640 --> 02:58:48,840
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's the other curriculum is music, and that's

2550
02:58:48,920 --> 02:58:51,200
Speaker 1: how they became K pop artists. Because we don't want

2551
02:58:51,240 --> 02:58:53,040
Speaker 1: to go to school all day. Because some of them

2552
02:58:53,120 --> 02:58:56,879
Speaker 1: go to school all day and then it's mandatory. At nineteen,

2553
02:58:56,959 --> 02:59:04,480
Speaker 1: they got to go to the army mandatory. No, no,

2554
02:59:05,360 --> 02:59:07,680
Speaker 1: they don't take no fin answer, you don't go. You're

2555
02:59:07,720 --> 02:59:14,920
Speaker 1: going to jail American something. We ain't doing that ship. Yeah,

2556
02:59:17,120 --> 02:59:21,280
Speaker 1: what's the other man in the question. Okay, Little Kim

2557
02:59:21,320 --> 02:59:28,280
Speaker 1: and Foxy Brown? Damn you had a Foxy Brown record?

2558
02:59:28,800 --> 02:59:31,520
Speaker 1: That record is ill too, man, Thank you. I did

2559
02:59:31,560 --> 02:59:35,520
Speaker 1: that record for a dollar, you know why? But blackets

2560
02:59:35,560 --> 02:59:38,600
Speaker 1: on the record as well. Yeah, I mean no, I

2561
02:59:38,720 --> 02:59:41,480
Speaker 1: did it for a dollar, right, because my fee would

2562
02:59:41,520 --> 02:59:44,440
Speaker 1: have been you know, but I did it for a dollar.

2563
02:59:45,040 --> 02:59:46,280
Speaker 1: And the reason why I did it for a dollar

2564
02:59:46,440 --> 02:59:51,720
Speaker 1: slang like did it for a dollar? That? Like you

2565
02:59:51,920 --> 02:59:54,480
Speaker 1: mean like you really did it for a dollar? Dollar?

2566
02:59:55,160 --> 03:00:00,400
Speaker 1: One dollar? You got going on? Body? You got you speed?

2567
03:00:03,400 --> 03:00:05,200
Speaker 1: You did it for a dollar. I did not do.

2568
03:00:06,000 --> 03:00:10,199
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure this out, so call I believe

2569
03:00:10,520 --> 03:00:14,680
Speaker 1: they didn't believe it theirselves. They were like, uh when

2570
03:00:14,720 --> 03:00:17,400
Speaker 1: they came down, they thought they get smoothed me with

2571
03:00:17,720 --> 03:00:20,440
Speaker 1: all of Louis vuittons. You remember they used to rustle

2572
03:00:21,080 --> 03:00:26,280
Speaker 1: and that's I said, uh, his wife, his ex wife,

2573
03:00:27,320 --> 03:00:31,199
Speaker 1: come on, come, so you know they would Louis buiton people.

2574
03:00:31,640 --> 03:00:37,480
Speaker 1: They give you with Louis Vuitton right, And my whole

2575
03:00:37,560 --> 03:00:41,080
Speaker 1: mindset wasn't about that. I thought about the trial called

2576
03:00:41,160 --> 03:00:45,600
Speaker 1: Quests the beef. The beef. Leo was in my studio.

2577
03:00:47,600 --> 03:00:50,280
Speaker 1: We had a beef. Forgot that well. It was like,

2578
03:00:50,520 --> 03:00:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, I was trying. I was trying to, like,

2579
03:00:54,600 --> 03:00:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, let's win them over, give them the record

2580
03:00:58,560 --> 03:01:02,720
Speaker 1: for a dollar and a favor because jam, but it

2581
03:01:02,800 --> 03:01:07,120
Speaker 1: was death jam. So they came down and Russell was

2582
03:01:07,240 --> 03:01:09,520
Speaker 1: trying to you know, like, yeah, man, it was a joking.

2583
03:01:09,560 --> 03:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Everybody's joking, yell, and we hope you get him for like,

2584
03:01:12,720 --> 03:01:14,680
Speaker 1: I hope you don't charge us arm and the leg

2585
03:01:14,879 --> 03:01:20,240
Speaker 1: And they were so worried they never came to Virginia.

2586
03:01:21,600 --> 03:01:26,040
Speaker 1: When they came to Virginia and Russell, they sidebar with

2587
03:01:26,160 --> 03:01:29,320
Speaker 1: me and He's like, yo, so what you gonna hit

2588
03:01:29,400 --> 03:01:32,160
Speaker 1: us in the head for? That's what you're talking about?

2589
03:01:33,200 --> 03:01:36,400
Speaker 1: He said, I know your price? Man? I said, what

2590
03:01:36,440 --> 03:01:41,080
Speaker 1: are you talking about? He said, how much for the record? Tee?

2591
03:01:44,600 --> 03:01:46,440
Speaker 1: I said, you won't believe what I'm going to charge you?

2592
03:01:47,840 --> 03:01:53,720
Speaker 1: He said, is he joking a way? He asked Lee

2593
03:01:53,920 --> 03:01:56,680
Speaker 1: or so? Leo's like, come on, man, He's tell us,

2594
03:01:56,720 --> 03:02:03,920
Speaker 1: what do you want for the record. I was like, okay, Russell,

2595
03:02:04,000 --> 03:02:06,360
Speaker 1: go in your pocket. You carry cash. He said, I

2596
03:02:06,400 --> 03:02:08,160
Speaker 1: don't carry a lot of cash. I said, pull out

2597
03:02:08,200 --> 03:02:12,160
Speaker 1: what you have in your pocket. He pulled out Somebodey

2598
03:02:12,200 --> 03:02:15,039
Speaker 1: and he happened to have a dollar and I said,

2599
03:02:15,480 --> 03:02:20,200
Speaker 1: spread it out like you in strip club. Spread it out,

2600
03:02:20,320 --> 03:02:25,680
Speaker 1: and I said, okay. He's like. They looked at each

2601
03:02:25,720 --> 03:02:32,680
Speaker 1: other like this nigga's joking. He said, you're joking right now.

2602
03:02:32,800 --> 03:02:37,240
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, it's not a joke. Just consider

2603
03:02:37,320 --> 03:02:43,000
Speaker 1: that a favor. Wow, I want my favor. So those two,

2604
03:02:43,560 --> 03:02:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, anybody here, don't drink champ and I'm gonna

2605
03:02:45,959 --> 03:02:50,160
Speaker 1: say every interview, y'all still owe me my favor. Jesus,

2606
03:02:51,480 --> 03:02:57,840
Speaker 1: I ain't cashing. I know you're all the way over

2607
03:02:57,920 --> 03:03:04,560
Speaker 1: in Bali. Yeah, I still want my favorite yo Leon.

2608
03:03:04,840 --> 03:03:07,120
Speaker 1: He called me. I was supposed to do it. I

2609
03:03:07,200 --> 03:03:09,400
Speaker 1: was supposed to do his party. I think he put

2610
03:03:09,480 --> 03:03:13,240
Speaker 1: everybody he had. Everybody under the jet was on it.

2611
03:03:13,600 --> 03:03:16,280
Speaker 1: I was called and he called me to be on

2612
03:03:16,440 --> 03:03:19,800
Speaker 1: the jet and I said, you know, I can't. I

2613
03:03:19,920 --> 03:03:22,520
Speaker 1: have a concert. I'm not able to make it. He said,

2614
03:03:23,000 --> 03:03:25,560
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know said, I call you that

2615
03:03:26,959 --> 03:03:32,120
Speaker 1: I was like or something drunkards that's how you you

2616
03:03:34,400 --> 03:03:36,920
Speaker 1: and and and I said, you know, but catch me

2617
03:03:37,040 --> 03:03:39,080
Speaker 1: on the next one. I definitely come, you know, because

2618
03:03:39,200 --> 03:03:42,800
Speaker 1: it's amazing to just even hear from you. But I'm

2619
03:03:43,000 --> 03:03:45,160
Speaker 1: one say on that call. You know you still own

2620
03:03:45,240 --> 03:03:50,400
Speaker 1: my favor. But I'm gonna catch favorite now. But no,

2621
03:03:50,720 --> 03:03:55,960
Speaker 1: Leo is my guy. Yeah, I have to ask thank

2622
03:03:56,000 --> 03:04:00,760
Speaker 1: you for whole signing that. Yeah, wait what they co signed?

2623
03:04:01,040 --> 03:04:05,160
Speaker 1: He signed? He's O the favorite. He needs to get

2624
03:04:05,200 --> 03:04:05,680
Speaker 1: that favorite.

2625
03:04:07,560 --> 03:04:09,120
Speaker 2: Hold on what you got. You can let him on,

2626
03:04:09,200 --> 03:04:13,000
Speaker 2: you can let him out. Okay, thank you thanking my bad,

2627
03:04:13,879 --> 03:04:15,720
Speaker 2: my son, my son. And like he bullies me, he

2628
03:04:15,800 --> 03:04:16,280
Speaker 2: bullies me.

2629
03:04:16,600 --> 03:04:19,520
Speaker 1: We've been bullied all this whole this episode, this whole episode,

2630
03:04:19,520 --> 03:04:25,160
Speaker 1: we've been realizing that sh everybody is being bullied. What

2631
03:04:25,320 --> 03:04:28,720
Speaker 1: you said? What oh ship?

2632
03:04:29,360 --> 03:04:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about your questions? Man, Okay, that's so well.

2633
03:04:37,360 --> 03:04:43,040
Speaker 2: His beef for baby Face his staffed and now now

2634
03:04:43,160 --> 03:04:48,320
Speaker 2: you're out of yourself you beef for baby Face. Like,

2635
03:04:48,680 --> 03:04:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, how do you and baby Face

2636
03:04:52,680 --> 03:04:57,480
Speaker 2: get beat? Why y'all putting us into beaf this?

2637
03:04:57,640 --> 03:05:02,240
Speaker 1: How this ship happened with Biggie you back black streating

2638
03:05:02,840 --> 03:05:06,280
Speaker 1: no guy and knowing this, everybody putting us in beefs

2639
03:05:06,360 --> 03:05:11,200
Speaker 1: we ain't in no beef. I just don't think that

2640
03:05:11,360 --> 03:05:14,119
Speaker 1: he would give me a shot for us to create

2641
03:05:15,480 --> 03:05:20,680
Speaker 1: versus on a stage like Monica and Brandy and Brandy

2642
03:05:21,920 --> 03:05:25,280
Speaker 1: and I'm telling them, put back on your boxing robe

2643
03:05:26,080 --> 03:05:30,640
Speaker 1: and how you came out on versus and let's do this, man,

2644
03:05:30,959 --> 03:05:33,680
Speaker 1: Let's get back in the ring. Let's take it to Africa.

2645
03:05:34,280 --> 03:05:52,360
Speaker 1: What's that, babyface? I want a firm Oh yeah, New York. Okay,

2646
03:05:52,520 --> 03:06:01,440
Speaker 1: so he put on a rope. You're you ain't You

2647
03:06:01,480 --> 03:06:07,640
Speaker 1: ain't see that? I was like, for real, Okay. I

2648
03:06:07,800 --> 03:06:10,920
Speaker 1: called Mike Tyson. Magically Johnson, I had everybody had the

2649
03:06:11,360 --> 03:06:17,160
Speaker 1: We had the first and then the fight happened, and

2650
03:06:17,280 --> 03:06:20,000
Speaker 1: then the Teddy Valley Internet. He never gave you my shot.

2651
03:06:20,080 --> 03:06:22,040
Speaker 1: De finished. We never got to finish. Do you know that?

2652
03:06:23,360 --> 03:06:28,920
Speaker 1: So why don't we finish? You want that smoke? Listen?

2653
03:06:29,160 --> 03:06:31,160
Speaker 1: I could see it in your eyes through your glasses.

2654
03:06:31,240 --> 03:06:35,280
Speaker 2: Listen, you are ready for real? And that was like before,

2655
03:06:35,440 --> 03:06:37,600
Speaker 2: like it won't It wasn't in the same room. Your

2656
03:06:37,640 --> 03:06:38,720
Speaker 2: internet was a little crazy.

2657
03:06:38,840 --> 03:06:41,160
Speaker 1: I remember that now. It really wasn't It was just

2658
03:06:41,240 --> 03:06:43,560
Speaker 1: the equipment I had and I g was just too

2659
03:06:43,640 --> 03:06:47,480
Speaker 1: a little behind. And technology. Yeah now we got it together. Yeah,

2660
03:06:47,640 --> 03:06:50,680
Speaker 1: no we did. Yeah, I own my own internet. You

2661
03:06:50,760 --> 03:06:52,240
Speaker 1: want that remad.

2662
03:06:56,320 --> 03:06:57,600
Speaker 4: But but but but.

2663
03:06:59,160 --> 03:07:02,120
Speaker 1: Babyface is one of the most incredible writers in this

2664
03:07:02,280 --> 03:07:05,320
Speaker 1: whole entire world. That's it. I will never have a

2665
03:07:05,360 --> 03:07:09,160
Speaker 1: beef with him. I just think that we need to

2666
03:07:09,280 --> 03:07:14,119
Speaker 1: do this. The example is we had this idea first

2667
03:07:14,200 --> 03:07:18,920
Speaker 1: to put it on the stage. Yes, well I did,

2668
03:07:19,920 --> 03:07:25,200
Speaker 1: and it was my dream. And if had we did

2669
03:07:25,280 --> 03:07:28,000
Speaker 1: that because we were the only ones that never had

2670
03:07:28,160 --> 03:07:31,640
Speaker 1: verses like how we created it. When they went on

2671
03:07:31,720 --> 03:07:34,120
Speaker 1: the stage, that was our creation because that's what we

2672
03:07:34,280 --> 03:07:37,920
Speaker 1: did at the house. If I didn't do that, they

2673
03:07:37,959 --> 03:07:42,720
Speaker 1: would versus would have been still in the house. Am

2674
03:07:42,760 --> 03:07:47,360
Speaker 1: I right along? Nobody would have never known about doing

2675
03:07:47,560 --> 03:07:50,560
Speaker 1: verses on no dog on stage. It's like, oh, Man,

2676
03:07:51,280 --> 03:07:54,760
Speaker 1: Teddy did it. Now we should do this with everybody.

2677
03:07:55,920 --> 03:07:58,080
Speaker 1: They even let Beanie Man and them have dog on

2678
03:07:58,240 --> 03:08:04,720
Speaker 1: boomboxes bos. They got a little dangerous in the yard.

2679
03:08:05,240 --> 03:08:07,640
Speaker 1: Police came. I said, wait a minute, where we're going.

2680
03:08:08,120 --> 03:08:12,240
Speaker 1: So we're doing what I did It's almost like what

2681
03:08:12,360 --> 03:08:16,160
Speaker 1: I did with new Jack Swing and everybody. They got

2682
03:08:16,240 --> 03:08:20,840
Speaker 1: on it, and I'm happy about that. It's just a legacy.

2683
03:08:22,240 --> 03:08:25,040
Speaker 1: That's all of this. But babyface, if you give me

2684
03:08:25,160 --> 03:08:27,640
Speaker 1: that shot, we're gonna make the culture just go wow.

2685
03:08:28,560 --> 03:08:31,840
Speaker 1: They just brought back versus like Monica. We how we

2686
03:08:32,000 --> 03:08:36,880
Speaker 1: let them get it before us and then they keep it. Well,

2687
03:08:36,920 --> 03:08:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it one hundred. I brought it to

2688
03:08:39,240 --> 03:08:44,760
Speaker 1: some promoters and they didn't believe. They didn't believe we're

2689
03:08:44,840 --> 03:08:50,560
Speaker 1: the We were the biggest of all the verses, every

2690
03:08:50,680 --> 03:08:53,120
Speaker 1: last one. You could put a couple of them together

2691
03:08:53,240 --> 03:08:58,040
Speaker 1: and still wouldn't even meet ours. You could put a few,

2692
03:08:58,200 --> 03:09:00,920
Speaker 1: you could put more than five together, still didn't make ours.

2693
03:09:02,200 --> 03:09:07,560
Speaker 1: We had over eight billion instances. They didn't want to

2694
03:09:07,760 --> 03:09:12,520
Speaker 1: display that, but CNN told the truth. Yes, they're the

2695
03:09:12,640 --> 03:09:15,160
Speaker 1: ones who reported it was like, this is over eight

2696
03:09:15,280 --> 03:09:19,440
Speaker 1: billion instances. The reason why because ig didn't want us

2697
03:09:19,480 --> 03:09:25,400
Speaker 1: to beat Michelle Obama. She had a party the same

2698
03:09:25,520 --> 03:09:29,640
Speaker 1: day and guess who was detailed for the party. You

2699
03:09:29,879 --> 03:09:34,160
Speaker 1: damn right, and he left the party. So watchat come

2700
03:09:34,240 --> 03:09:39,720
Speaker 1: Mutch all the artists. Quaville called me and said, yo,

2701
03:09:39,920 --> 03:09:42,560
Speaker 1: you broke the rules. We can't even get back in

2702
03:09:42,640 --> 03:09:44,440
Speaker 1: the room. I said, we can't even get back in

2703
03:09:44,520 --> 03:09:52,160
Speaker 1: our own That's what breaking the Internet is. They didn't

2704
03:09:52,200 --> 03:09:55,920
Speaker 1: do it, and everybody afterwards it was like they didn't

2705
03:09:55,920 --> 03:10:00,760
Speaker 1: bring the hype. The hype was the Teddy Rally. Internet broke.

2706
03:10:02,040 --> 03:10:06,360
Speaker 1: He broke it, then then he broke it again. So

2707
03:10:09,400 --> 03:10:12,720
Speaker 1: I think he'd observed that shot and I think, you know,

2708
03:10:13,480 --> 03:10:15,840
Speaker 1: face before you know, he'd just say, yo, I don't

2709
03:10:16,000 --> 03:10:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm good, I don't want to do this again. You know,

2710
03:10:18,920 --> 03:10:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm retiring. This is the way to go out with

2711
03:10:21,920 --> 03:10:24,600
Speaker 1: a bang, because we bring the culture. He's got all

2712
03:10:24,640 --> 03:10:28,720
Speaker 1: those hits and I got some records and and it

2713
03:10:28,760 --> 03:10:30,400
Speaker 1: would be more than a three hours show. But we

2714
03:10:30,480 --> 03:10:32,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. We're just going to give you a

2715
03:10:32,080 --> 03:10:35,800
Speaker 1: piece of our love and keep yo, keep everybody just coming.

2716
03:10:35,920 --> 03:10:39,560
Speaker 1: I know what it would do, Monica, they're now they're

2717
03:10:39,600 --> 03:10:42,560
Speaker 1: the example. We were supposed to be the example, but

2718
03:10:42,760 --> 03:10:45,039
Speaker 1: they are the example. And you see how well that did.

2719
03:10:46,400 --> 03:10:50,920
Speaker 1: People want to see verses on the stage and on tour.

2720
03:10:52,040 --> 03:10:57,720
Speaker 1: So like say if Swiss and Timberland to a versus

2721
03:10:58,080 --> 03:11:02,080
Speaker 1: like tourt them on the stage because they started. They

2722
03:11:02,120 --> 03:11:04,320
Speaker 1: got to be the verse, would you say, like Monica

2723
03:11:04,360 --> 03:11:11,000
Speaker 1: and Brandy and be yourselves being themselves and put it

2724
03:11:11,120 --> 03:11:15,400
Speaker 1: on the stage, the same thing. I mean, already Gladys

2725
03:11:15,480 --> 03:11:18,240
Speaker 1: Knight and what's the name already doing it, tayg le Bell,

2726
03:11:19,280 --> 03:11:23,640
Speaker 1: they doing it, You're doing well. These things would do well.

2727
03:11:24,720 --> 03:11:27,760
Speaker 1: You just can't be afraid of it. And that's what

2728
03:11:27,920 --> 03:11:30,920
Speaker 1: I feel. And it's got to be well produced as well. Yes,

2729
03:11:35,560 --> 03:11:38,400
Speaker 1: I just think that if we do that, it will

2730
03:11:38,480 --> 03:11:41,200
Speaker 1: be off the chain. It will take the summer and

2731
03:11:41,360 --> 03:11:43,920
Speaker 1: the winter. We will the would be probably asking us

2732
03:11:43,959 --> 03:11:46,879
Speaker 1: to come Africa or something, and I thought we should

2733
03:11:46,959 --> 03:11:50,080
Speaker 1: started in like a place like Africa. I heard you

2734
03:11:50,120 --> 03:11:52,640
Speaker 1: say that earlier. It's like make it look like yo,

2735
03:11:52,959 --> 03:11:55,760
Speaker 1: this the rumbling the jungles, like we can go ahead

2736
03:11:55,760 --> 03:11:58,840
Speaker 1: and it won't be you go first, you go second.

2737
03:11:58,920 --> 03:12:02,080
Speaker 1: We just go back and fall flight. How celebration and

2738
03:12:02,200 --> 03:12:06,360
Speaker 1: Chris Brown did event we celebrating. Ain't no competition because

2739
03:12:06,360 --> 03:12:09,760
Speaker 1: I ain't competing against them. Not doing that. I will

2740
03:12:09,840 --> 03:12:12,200
Speaker 1: never compete with my brother. That was just strictly for

2741
03:12:12,360 --> 03:12:16,200
Speaker 1: the culture. And you know, we made it look like

2742
03:12:16,520 --> 03:12:19,360
Speaker 1: we we ain't backing down. I know he ain't backing

2743
03:12:19,440 --> 03:12:21,840
Speaker 1: now and I'm not backing down neither. Like you know,

2744
03:12:23,160 --> 03:12:25,080
Speaker 1: let's say it is it? So let me ask you

2745
03:12:25,240 --> 03:12:30,000
Speaker 1: right why in our culture? Right, it's just like we

2746
03:12:30,280 --> 03:12:34,119
Speaker 1: we we like people like us want to celebrate our legends.

2747
03:12:34,720 --> 03:12:39,680
Speaker 2: But and hip hop or and people say, all right, man,

2748
03:12:39,920 --> 03:12:42,840
Speaker 2: you know you're over the hill now, like and like

2749
03:12:43,120 --> 03:12:45,680
Speaker 2: like and like I think I think you said it earlier.

2750
03:12:46,920 --> 03:12:48,959
Speaker 2: I was like, man, keep working, like, let's keep working.

2751
03:12:49,240 --> 03:12:52,760
Speaker 2: But why in our culture there's no such thing as

2752
03:12:53,000 --> 03:12:59,039
Speaker 2: washed up? And exactly music, there's no such thing. These

2753
03:12:59,080 --> 03:13:00,400
Speaker 2: guys are nine hundred years old.

2754
03:13:02,720 --> 03:13:04,760
Speaker 1: Why is it? Why is it in our culture that

2755
03:13:04,959 --> 03:13:11,160
Speaker 1: is frowned upon? Because we are so critical in scrutinizing

2756
03:13:11,360 --> 03:13:14,240
Speaker 1: each other that we never give each other the love

2757
03:13:14,400 --> 03:13:19,200
Speaker 1: that we deserve. So that's why sometimes you got to

2758
03:13:19,320 --> 03:13:21,920
Speaker 1: just keep doing what you're doing so people can still

2759
03:13:22,000 --> 03:13:27,440
Speaker 1: receive you. And you know, don't let anybody turn you

2760
03:13:27,520 --> 03:13:32,440
Speaker 1: away or stare you away from being or striving to

2761
03:13:32,560 --> 03:13:37,960
Speaker 1: be great, because one day they will see that you

2762
03:13:38,080 --> 03:13:40,400
Speaker 1: got to show them your greatness in order for you

2763
03:13:41,440 --> 03:13:45,120
Speaker 1: to be accepted. You just got to show it. Don't

2764
03:13:45,160 --> 03:13:46,880
Speaker 1: talk about it. You know a lot of people talk

2765
03:13:46,920 --> 03:13:48,840
Speaker 1: about it and bring R and B back or I'm

2766
03:13:48,840 --> 03:13:53,000
Speaker 1: going to bring this back and never conquer. So you

2767
03:13:53,120 --> 03:13:55,720
Speaker 1: gotta now just do it and not talk about it.

2768
03:13:55,959 --> 03:14:01,120
Speaker 1: Just do it and and and and be strong about it.

2769
03:14:01,360 --> 03:14:07,520
Speaker 1: Just be determined. I'm determined to you know, be consistent

2770
03:14:08,120 --> 03:14:11,080
Speaker 1: because when you're consistent, that's the key. And you know,

2771
03:14:11,120 --> 03:14:14,280
Speaker 1: I haven't waited, like I've gotts thrown at me when

2772
03:14:14,320 --> 03:14:16,720
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, this is guy two point oh. But

2773
03:14:16,879 --> 03:14:20,120
Speaker 1: when people started hearing it, they started getting those dodgs back.

2774
03:14:21,600 --> 03:14:23,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And that's what you gotta do.

2775
03:14:23,360 --> 03:14:26,360
Speaker 1: Like I really feel like you got another record in you.

2776
03:14:27,600 --> 03:14:30,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No, seriously, I promise you

2777
03:14:31,480 --> 03:14:36,240
Speaker 1: if forell you and forel like how the clips come on?

2778
03:14:36,360 --> 03:14:38,600
Speaker 2: Look at the clipst I got a doctor dre b.

2779
03:14:39,640 --> 03:14:43,360
Speaker 2: I got three of them, Okay recently, yeah, a couple

2780
03:14:43,400 --> 03:14:43,880
Speaker 2: of weeks ago.

2781
03:14:44,120 --> 03:14:49,560
Speaker 1: So so we got you. Give me a call, please please, Yeah,

2782
03:14:49,600 --> 03:14:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm going going to make.

2783
03:14:51,200 --> 03:14:55,280
Speaker 2: Sure you're in the same city right now, like I'm

2784
03:14:55,280 --> 03:14:57,240
Speaker 2: coming to get to tellybody got.

2785
03:15:01,440 --> 03:15:08,320
Speaker 1: And you know, you know what for me is when

2786
03:15:09,280 --> 03:15:12,400
Speaker 1: you do the records out of love like we first started,

2787
03:15:12,480 --> 03:15:16,080
Speaker 1: we did this ship because we loved it exactly. It

2788
03:15:16,320 --> 03:15:20,280
Speaker 1: was it was the industry who made us hate it.

2789
03:15:21,640 --> 03:15:24,840
Speaker 2: But it's not the industrutiny, yes, and not only that,

2790
03:15:24,959 --> 03:15:29,320
Speaker 2: it's just like like like when you spoke about, you know,

2791
03:15:29,440 --> 03:15:31,960
Speaker 2: the career thing and all that, like like certain things,

2792
03:15:32,040 --> 03:15:34,240
Speaker 2: like certain people took advantage of it, like me, for

2793
03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:36,520
Speaker 2: for sure, I got took an advantage of.

2794
03:15:39,640 --> 03:15:42,160
Speaker 1: For me to come back and me to do it

2795
03:15:42,320 --> 03:15:45,960
Speaker 1: on my own terms will be like like like that

2796
03:15:46,080 --> 03:15:47,920
Speaker 1: that's would be what I love. You know what I'm saying.

2797
03:15:48,080 --> 03:15:50,360
Speaker 1: Thing you're supposed to do is you're supposed to be

2798
03:15:50,440 --> 03:15:54,200
Speaker 1: on your own tongue better yes, instead of being faster. Yes,

2799
03:15:54,320 --> 03:15:56,400
Speaker 1: you're never face and you're not a fALS. I mean,

2800
03:15:56,440 --> 03:16:00,280
Speaker 1: it would be so easy for you. I should some

2801
03:16:00,520 --> 03:16:04,640
Speaker 1: I got I'm already ready. Okay, you know what.

2802
03:16:06,360 --> 03:16:10,920
Speaker 2: Please love I would love because you know what me

2803
03:16:11,080 --> 03:16:14,240
Speaker 2: and my partner like, uh we said, me and e FN,

2804
03:16:16,280 --> 03:16:18,760
Speaker 2: we really started this show to give people like you

2805
03:16:19,440 --> 03:16:23,760
Speaker 2: your flowers, to give people like you your uh your credit,

2806
03:16:23,879 --> 03:16:27,600
Speaker 2: because it's truly that like like if it's not you

2807
03:16:28,200 --> 03:16:32,360
Speaker 2: like related like like like us being connected like you

2808
03:16:32,680 --> 03:16:37,320
Speaker 2: truly are one of the icons you are icon, You

2809
03:16:37,400 --> 03:16:41,080
Speaker 2: are a legend. You are a person that if it

2810
03:16:41,200 --> 03:16:44,920
Speaker 2: wasn't for you, the music wouldn't be what it is today.

2811
03:16:46,320 --> 03:16:50,000
Speaker 2: And I'm not afraid to tell you that to your face.

2812
03:16:50,480 --> 03:16:54,040
Speaker 2: That is like you push the needle. You are the

2813
03:16:54,879 --> 03:16:57,720
Speaker 2: the move what they call it, the move shaker. Yeah, yeah,

2814
03:16:58,000 --> 03:16:59,279
Speaker 2: you are person.

2815
03:16:59,400 --> 03:17:03,560
Speaker 1: You are that person. And I feel like our culture

2816
03:17:07,120 --> 03:17:09,720
Speaker 1: has to celebrate that. We have to appraise that. We

2817
03:17:09,840 --> 03:17:13,520
Speaker 1: have to let you know, you know, to your face,

2818
03:17:14,200 --> 03:17:18,160
Speaker 1: and if our kulture ain't gonna do it, we will.

2819
03:17:22,080 --> 03:17:24,280
Speaker 1: This is why I love doing this show because as

2820
03:17:24,680 --> 03:17:27,520
Speaker 1: the young fan of me comes back and meets the

2821
03:17:27,760 --> 03:17:31,800
Speaker 1: icons and the heroes. So this is an actual concette

2822
03:17:31,840 --> 03:17:34,600
Speaker 1: that I bought, right, look at that. That's crazy. And

2823
03:17:34,640 --> 03:17:37,200
Speaker 1: I used to love because I was an aspiring DJ.

2824
03:17:37,320 --> 03:17:41,280
Speaker 1: Couldn't afford turntables originally, right, So I loved all the

2825
03:17:41,400 --> 03:17:45,360
Speaker 1: singles because they had the instrumentals. Yeah, but I hated

2826
03:17:45,440 --> 03:17:47,920
Speaker 1: that they always came in the paper, So I used

2827
03:17:47,959 --> 03:17:50,200
Speaker 1: to cut them up and put them in the plastic

2828
03:17:51,280 --> 03:17:54,000
Speaker 1: so they would make so they would be protected. So

2829
03:17:54,680 --> 03:17:57,040
Speaker 1: now I'm bringing you this now, I mean, this is Droomshaker.

2830
03:17:57,080 --> 03:17:59,440
Speaker 1: He knows the year that is well, this record is.

2831
03:17:59,600 --> 03:18:02,840
Speaker 1: Listen to me, there's two records in hip hop that

2832
03:18:03,000 --> 03:18:06,000
Speaker 1: defined summers. Whether this came out and somebody, I can't

2833
03:18:06,040 --> 03:18:08,400
Speaker 1: tell you, but I'm telling you define for me summers.

2834
03:18:08,480 --> 03:18:12,160
Speaker 1: It's Dwick and Drumshaker because he jerked off to those videos,

2835
03:18:12,280 --> 03:18:17,960
Speaker 1: keep it real, relaxed at all. I'll tell you a fact.

2836
03:18:20,240 --> 03:18:26,519
Speaker 1: It's so crazy because for so long we we WASN'TSD

2837
03:18:27,360 --> 03:18:32,200
Speaker 1: we wasn't considered hip hop. I know that. But you

2838
03:18:32,280 --> 03:18:36,840
Speaker 1: know Miami, Miami guys, so that was it. Wait hold on,

2839
03:18:36,920 --> 03:18:38,960
Speaker 1: so y'all looked at them like to no, no, no, no,

2840
03:18:39,040 --> 03:18:41,800
Speaker 1: you understand. I'm a Miami top head. So I'm not

2841
03:18:41,920 --> 03:18:44,879
Speaker 1: looking at that divisive stuff that's going on somewhere else.

2842
03:18:45,480 --> 03:18:47,760
Speaker 1: To us, this is this is this is the jam.

2843
03:18:47,959 --> 03:18:51,360
Speaker 1: So this is it a lot of people, like I said,

2844
03:18:52,560 --> 03:18:55,960
Speaker 1: if people would have asked, like, yo, so is it

2845
03:18:56,080 --> 03:19:00,400
Speaker 1: hip hop? No, that's rexing effect or that's news swing.

2846
03:19:01,280 --> 03:19:06,680
Speaker 1: And why do music that I said, scrutiny, Why music

2847
03:19:06,800 --> 03:19:11,920
Speaker 1: have to be put into a categlory or into a

2848
03:19:12,080 --> 03:19:15,680
Speaker 1: box when it was everything to everybody. This was the

2849
03:19:15,879 --> 03:19:19,520
Speaker 1: first record, the first Booty song to play on MTV,

2850
03:19:20,920 --> 03:19:25,880
Speaker 1: the very first throw. They wasn't on MTV yet or

2851
03:19:26,040 --> 03:19:33,240
Speaker 1: never took. That record was decided by a judge. The

2852
03:19:33,600 --> 03:19:37,760
Speaker 1: first commercial about Rumpshaker was a judge and they played

2853
03:19:37,800 --> 03:19:39,879
Speaker 1: a record and you know, it was like a demonstration

2854
03:19:40,000 --> 03:19:44,760
Speaker 1: and this record makes MTV. That's crazy. But I didn't

2855
03:19:44,760 --> 03:19:49,240
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, yep. And we did a lot to

2856
03:19:49,320 --> 03:19:53,680
Speaker 1: make that record make TV because we had some we

2857
03:19:53,800 --> 03:19:56,400
Speaker 1: had some stuff going on and we had some stars

2858
03:19:56,440 --> 03:20:00,400
Speaker 1: in there. Like you you would know, like the the

2859
03:20:00,520 --> 03:20:04,480
Speaker 1: girl is playing the successphone, you know who that is.

2860
03:20:05,120 --> 03:20:11,040
Speaker 1: That's Bobby Brown's wife. Wow, today my mind. Wasn't his

2861
03:20:11,120 --> 03:20:15,040
Speaker 1: wife then though? Wasn't his wife then? Right? That's his wife?

2862
03:20:15,120 --> 03:20:21,400
Speaker 1: Now do y'all think, y'all y'all introduced? Uh no, no, no, no, no,

2863
03:20:22,320 --> 03:20:26,120
Speaker 1: that's all Day. That's that's Luke. That's I even said

2864
03:20:26,120 --> 03:20:27,800
Speaker 1: a lot of my records, I'm the East Coast Luke.

2865
03:20:28,240 --> 03:20:31,360
Speaker 1: Goddamn it. Okay, but but listen, you said this is

2866
03:20:31,440 --> 03:20:34,960
Speaker 1: hip hop nonetheless, Yeah, but no, it wasn't. I mean, well,

2867
03:20:35,320 --> 03:20:40,840
Speaker 1: when the fiftieth to us in my anniversary, we wasn't called.

2868
03:20:42,240 --> 03:20:44,080
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, this is a hip

2869
03:20:44,080 --> 03:20:48,280
Speaker 1: hop hit record exactly. Nobody says the lead rapper is

2870
03:20:48,360 --> 03:20:53,400
Speaker 1: one of the most influenced, influential rappers because a lot

2871
03:20:53,480 --> 03:20:56,000
Speaker 1: of people and I'm gonna keep it one hundred a

2872
03:20:56,080 --> 03:20:59,760
Speaker 1: lot of people a guy that got their style from him,

2873
03:21:00,959 --> 03:21:06,240
Speaker 1: I'll kill a plus keep going. He's a very educated

2874
03:21:06,360 --> 03:21:11,760
Speaker 1: rapper and freestyle, Yeah, A plus off through it. But

2875
03:21:12,840 --> 03:21:16,440
Speaker 1: you know when people don't give you that respect, he's

2876
03:21:16,480 --> 03:21:19,040
Speaker 1: just like, yo, I got another job over here. I

2877
03:21:19,080 --> 03:21:22,480
Speaker 1: can just do that. And we just kind of left

2878
03:21:22,520 --> 03:21:26,040
Speaker 1: it alone. But when we performed that song, I mean,

2879
03:21:26,080 --> 03:21:28,080
Speaker 1: I think it's going to go down in history. Like

2880
03:21:28,200 --> 03:21:30,199
Speaker 1: I said, I mean, I don't know if everybody agrees

2881
03:21:30,240 --> 03:21:32,720
Speaker 1: with me, but I feel like I think it as well.

2882
03:21:32,840 --> 03:21:36,000
Speaker 1: And it's rump shaking. Those are the summer records for

2883
03:21:36,160 --> 03:21:39,640
Speaker 1: that time period, which is the golden era in my

2884
03:21:40,040 --> 03:21:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, from my generation of hip hop. YEP, it's

2885
03:21:43,240 --> 03:21:45,760
Speaker 1: drinking and rump shaking. Like there's no other record that's

2886
03:21:45,760 --> 03:21:48,160
Speaker 1: going to bring everybody on the dance floor like that.

2887
03:21:50,080 --> 03:21:52,680
Speaker 1: I feel the same way, you know this is that's

2888
03:21:52,720 --> 03:21:56,240
Speaker 1: a classic. You know, there's not a lot of rap classics.

2889
03:21:57,080 --> 03:21:59,560
Speaker 1: You know that you could say I could play twenty

2890
03:21:59,640 --> 03:22:05,520
Speaker 1: years this record ninety two and still playing today in

2891
03:22:05,760 --> 03:22:09,200
Speaker 1: the clubs. And the sample, the original sample of Public

2892
03:22:09,280 --> 03:22:12,880
Speaker 1: Enemy use right first or no? The original sample is

2893
03:22:12,959 --> 03:22:15,760
Speaker 1: by some I got souped million dollars for that record,

2894
03:22:17,160 --> 03:22:20,120
Speaker 1: A million, a million dollars. I had to pay me.

2895
03:22:22,280 --> 03:22:25,440
Speaker 1: So we'll see what they called us lady later when

2896
03:22:25,480 --> 03:22:29,040
Speaker 1: the record the record did half a million because the

2897
03:22:29,120 --> 03:22:35,160
Speaker 1: record was in and part of my publishing check went

2898
03:22:35,280 --> 03:22:39,840
Speaker 1: to pay for that sample. They let us as an

2899
03:22:39,920 --> 03:22:49,720
Speaker 1: Indian band, an Indian band before Public Enemy before yeah,

2900
03:22:50,360 --> 03:22:55,920
Speaker 1: and then Jay used it afterwards. Yeah right, yeah, wow crazy,

2901
03:22:58,120 --> 03:23:04,680
Speaker 1: So we know you didn't smoke the blunt relaxed. It

2902
03:23:05,920 --> 03:23:09,680
Speaker 1: was for later before. Can I ask this is for

2903
03:23:09,800 --> 03:23:14,000
Speaker 1: my in a junkie whoa, whoa the inner junkie and

2904
03:23:14,120 --> 03:23:18,040
Speaker 1: you what's the what? What kind of drugs was in

2905
03:23:18,080 --> 03:23:24,680
Speaker 1: the Bobby Brown sessions? Well? See, was there not cooking

2906
03:23:25,640 --> 03:23:29,200
Speaker 1: that I work with that did substance? Did not bring

2907
03:23:29,280 --> 03:23:33,520
Speaker 1: it around me. I'm gonna tell you, like like Snoop

2908
03:23:33,600 --> 03:23:37,840
Speaker 1: Dogg and that's my brother. But Snoop would even ask me,

2909
03:23:37,959 --> 03:23:42,240
Speaker 1: oh can we can we hit one? And one day

2910
03:23:44,560 --> 03:23:47,360
Speaker 1: he smoked in the session, right, and Aaron Hall was

2911
03:23:47,400 --> 03:23:51,480
Speaker 1: with us. Everybody was in the session and Snoop came

2912
03:23:51,560 --> 03:23:55,320
Speaker 1: and he said, I bet you can't hit this. You

2913
03:23:55,560 --> 03:24:00,280
Speaker 1: you'll never hit that. And Snoop had some strong stuff right,

2914
03:24:00,400 --> 03:24:06,160
Speaker 1: and I said, so, I bet y'all would because they

2915
03:24:06,240 --> 03:24:10,680
Speaker 1: used to smoke every day. Him, corrupt everybody, creep everybody.

2916
03:24:11,320 --> 03:24:18,520
Speaker 1: So I took a hit and it changed my life.

2917
03:24:23,160 --> 03:24:27,400
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna tell you why. Because I have hyperthyroids hyperthyroidism,

2918
03:24:28,200 --> 03:24:31,800
Speaker 1: and I used to have tremors. My hands used to

2919
03:24:32,080 --> 03:24:35,160
Speaker 1: shake a lot, you know. I had a grade disease

2920
03:24:35,240 --> 03:24:42,320
Speaker 1: and cancer. Wow, and I used to I could never sleep,

2921
03:24:42,400 --> 03:24:45,520
Speaker 1: like if I'm in a studio session, I can go

2922
03:24:45,840 --> 03:24:53,600
Speaker 1: to for forty eight hours literally. But for me, what

2923
03:24:53,840 --> 03:24:57,160
Speaker 1: helped me? And now we're working on the strand as

2924
03:24:57,240 --> 03:25:06,880
Speaker 1: a tea because tea said, because uh, Indeca, it's probably

2925
03:25:07,040 --> 03:25:10,040
Speaker 1: it's the best thing for me. And I only have

2926
03:25:10,160 --> 03:25:16,640
Speaker 1: to take one. And I'm good because the up order down,

2927
03:25:16,920 --> 03:25:22,480
Speaker 1: down down, because I'm already up. Okay, I'm already up. Like,

2928
03:25:24,480 --> 03:25:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, why you say, jumping bunny, you know I'm

2929
03:25:28,480 --> 03:25:32,600
Speaker 1: out of here. I can go, no, do yourself. I'm like,

2930
03:25:32,720 --> 03:25:37,959
Speaker 1: do you sell? Like? And it was nothing that because

2931
03:25:37,959 --> 03:25:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't really like taking medicine at all. There was

2932
03:25:41,480 --> 03:25:46,840
Speaker 1: nothing that could help me and my my ex manager

2933
03:25:46,879 --> 03:25:48,520
Speaker 1: I used to play with. I used to sell you

2934
03:25:48,640 --> 03:25:52,080
Speaker 1: a pusher man, you know, like it was your drug dealer,

2935
03:25:52,360 --> 03:25:55,440
Speaker 1: because he was you know, he he introduced when they

2936
03:25:55,480 --> 03:25:59,080
Speaker 1: had the vaps. But I realized that was dangerous. Then

2937
03:25:59,120 --> 03:26:00,600
Speaker 1: he said, you know, they and you would have to

2938
03:26:00,640 --> 03:26:02,840
Speaker 1: do the real deal. Or let's figure out how we

2939
03:26:02,959 --> 03:26:06,320
Speaker 1: can turn it into a te So I have a

2940
03:26:06,440 --> 03:26:09,840
Speaker 1: company now really putting together a strand and so it

2941
03:26:09,879 --> 03:26:12,960
Speaker 1: can make it into a tea. That's why, so that

2942
03:26:13,240 --> 03:26:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm able to you know, sleep, but it also helps

2943
03:26:15,800 --> 03:26:21,520
Speaker 1: me with my thye words. So yeah, okay, So the

2944
03:26:21,640 --> 03:26:23,760
Speaker 1: drugs and studio, I could tell you a couple of

2945
03:26:23,800 --> 03:26:29,520
Speaker 1: people who asked me, you know, I'm in ODB O

2946
03:26:29,720 --> 03:26:33,560
Speaker 1: dB when he came to do the remix for Fix. Okay,

2947
03:26:34,120 --> 03:26:38,200
Speaker 1: and this is how you got that that part on

2948
03:26:38,360 --> 03:26:43,040
Speaker 1: Fixed when he went who her name was, Vagina? The

2949
03:26:43,200 --> 03:26:46,320
Speaker 1: dude had to have a forty and he had to

2950
03:26:46,400 --> 03:26:50,879
Speaker 1: have his weed. Nobody never did weed in my studio.

2951
03:26:52,280 --> 03:26:54,360
Speaker 1: The first person to do weed in my studio was

2952
03:26:54,440 --> 03:26:58,400
Speaker 1: Buster bust a round. Yeah, my brother, because he's like

2953
03:27:00,760 --> 03:27:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't feel good. I don't feel good. Yo. I

2954
03:27:03,160 --> 03:27:12,039
Speaker 1: need Yo, I need I don't feel yo, yos an

2955
03:27:13,160 --> 03:27:18,600
Speaker 1: you talk to because some gotta give. I was like,

2956
03:27:18,640 --> 03:27:22,600
Speaker 1: who is talking about? He's like, yo, I know you

2957
03:27:22,640 --> 03:27:25,960
Speaker 1: don't allow like you know, smoking in your studio. Well,

2958
03:27:27,080 --> 03:27:32,000
Speaker 1: can you could just give me this one? I'll finish

2959
03:27:32,120 --> 03:27:36,160
Speaker 1: this record like like trust wow. I was like, I

2960
03:27:37,959 --> 03:27:43,920
Speaker 1: you got a bush he's smoking? Was it? It changes?

2961
03:27:44,240 --> 03:27:48,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's another playing field when when you got that.

2962
03:27:49,280 --> 03:27:52,560
Speaker 1: So like even sometimes like when I'm in the studio,

2963
03:27:54,080 --> 03:27:57,600
Speaker 1: I would have that feeling like today is the day

2964
03:27:57,680 --> 03:28:02,120
Speaker 1: I need to because I'm on something right now and

2965
03:28:02,200 --> 03:28:05,960
Speaker 1: I need to focus. The stuff I do is give

2966
03:28:06,000 --> 03:28:09,640
Speaker 1: me a focus. And I'm like in that zone and

2967
03:28:10,440 --> 03:28:14,720
Speaker 1: like just working on records for like Usher and stuff,

2968
03:28:14,800 --> 03:28:16,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, I gotta get in the zone.

2969
03:28:17,720 --> 03:28:18,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

2970
03:28:18,560 --> 03:28:24,200
Speaker 2: So man, taking a picture because I can't thank you enough, man,

2971
03:28:24,360 --> 03:28:29,040
Speaker 2: Like I know you got to wrap it up, but

2972
03:28:29,120 --> 03:28:31,039
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take another shot for you. I'm gonna take

2973
03:28:31,040 --> 03:28:34,560
Speaker 2: too more shots for you because yeah, yeah, I'm gonna

2974
03:28:34,560 --> 03:28:36,119
Speaker 2: take too much shot, take too much.

2975
03:28:38,120 --> 03:28:42,760
Speaker 1: Because let me just tell you, man, we all owe you. Man.

2976
03:28:43,320 --> 03:28:46,240
Speaker 1: Music mean nothing no, no, no no, I gave me

2977
03:28:46,400 --> 03:28:51,160
Speaker 1: let me get you gave me my gime me check

2978
03:28:51,240 --> 03:28:55,280
Speaker 1: this out. I'm gonna be one hond. I didn't think

2979
03:28:55,320 --> 03:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I will ever make it here really serious because I

2980
03:29:00,520 --> 03:29:03,879
Speaker 1: didn't really have like when I go on a show

2981
03:29:04,040 --> 03:29:06,360
Speaker 1: like dude, like your show has got to be something

2982
03:29:06,480 --> 03:29:10,520
Speaker 1: like this. This really got me here. I feel like

2983
03:29:10,640 --> 03:29:12,920
Speaker 1: this is my reason. I know you wanted me to

2984
03:29:12,959 --> 03:29:15,400
Speaker 1: come up because we talked about oh yes at the

2985
03:29:15,440 --> 03:29:19,920
Speaker 1: piece pot piece, but this right here, I feel like

2986
03:29:20,080 --> 03:29:22,640
Speaker 1: this was the vehicle that I feel I have something

2987
03:29:22,680 --> 03:29:24,440
Speaker 1: to talk about. And then all the stuff you wanted

2988
03:29:24,480 --> 03:29:26,760
Speaker 1: to ask me, and then the games and it became

2989
03:29:27,560 --> 03:29:31,600
Speaker 1: like yo, that's flowers for me. Yes, you know what

2990
03:29:31,600 --> 03:29:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Just coming on the show. I don't like

2991
03:29:35,280 --> 03:29:37,920
Speaker 1: I told you, I don't doing on my past, but

2992
03:29:38,040 --> 03:29:40,920
Speaker 1: thank you for humoring us. Yeah. Yeah, and we have

2993
03:29:41,120 --> 03:29:43,040
Speaker 1: to we have to. We have to, you know what,

2994
03:29:43,920 --> 03:29:45,760
Speaker 1: in case that's what you want to do.

2995
03:29:46,120 --> 03:29:49,040
Speaker 2: It's people like us that we sit around and we

2996
03:29:49,080 --> 03:29:52,080
Speaker 2: said we have to say, man like this like your legacy,

2997
03:29:52,160 --> 03:29:55,640
Speaker 2: what you've done, what you gave to us is your

2998
03:29:55,680 --> 03:29:58,600
Speaker 2: birth children, you birth you know, like when I said

2999
03:29:58,840 --> 03:30:01,080
Speaker 2: four different decades. I'm sitting back and I'm just like

3000
03:30:01,200 --> 03:30:03,160
Speaker 2: that shit is so beautiful, Like you know what I mean.

3001
03:30:03,440 --> 03:30:05,720
Speaker 2: There's people who don't last six months. These people don't

3002
03:30:05,800 --> 03:30:08,360
Speaker 2: last six weeks, these people don't last two weeks. And

3003
03:30:08,520 --> 03:30:11,040
Speaker 2: the fact is that you have this a luxurious career.

3004
03:30:11,400 --> 03:30:13,720
Speaker 2: I have to sit you as a man and tell you,

3005
03:30:13,920 --> 03:30:16,080
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for doing that, because I know

3006
03:30:16,200 --> 03:30:19,960
Speaker 2: how much shit you have probably been through. I know

3007
03:30:20,040 --> 03:30:21,920
Speaker 2: how much shit that you hain't talking about in that

3008
03:30:22,080 --> 03:30:27,640
Speaker 2: book because I'm I can't say I'm of you, But

3009
03:30:27,840 --> 03:30:28,800
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say is.

3010
03:30:29,080 --> 03:30:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm of that same essence we all come to trade.

3011
03:30:32,320 --> 03:30:36,760
Speaker 1: And I know, I know the hardship that you've been through,

3012
03:30:36,840 --> 03:30:39,480
Speaker 1: and I know the fact that you standing in here

3013
03:30:39,560 --> 03:30:42,880
Speaker 1: today as a man, sitting there and you are you

3014
03:30:43,000 --> 03:30:46,200
Speaker 1: are who you are, You are everyone who loves you,

3015
03:30:46,480 --> 03:30:50,600
Speaker 1: everyone worships you. But I know I know sometimes what

3016
03:30:50,760 --> 03:30:51,440
Speaker 1: we've been through.

3017
03:30:51,760 --> 03:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Like you know, I look at my friends sometimes and

3018
03:30:56,800 --> 03:31:00,360
Speaker 2: I can see them go to McDonald's and I can

3019
03:31:00,400 --> 03:31:04,120
Speaker 2: say to them, fuck, I'm jealous of I'm going to

3020
03:31:04,240 --> 03:31:07,320
Speaker 2: make them right. Not because I'm jealous of them going

3021
03:31:07,400 --> 03:31:11,000
Speaker 2: to McDonald's. I'm jealous that they can go to McDonald's.

3022
03:31:11,040 --> 03:31:13,600
Speaker 2: They can get their their chicken filet or fish for legs.

3023
03:31:13,600 --> 03:31:16,000
Speaker 1: I know you don't eat chicken. They could get their

3024
03:31:16,040 --> 03:31:18,400
Speaker 1: fish for l a. They could get their little they

3025
03:31:18,879 --> 03:31:23,160
Speaker 1: uh uh because my man that's vegan. Uh, they get

3026
03:31:23,200 --> 03:31:23,640
Speaker 1: his loop.

3027
03:31:23,840 --> 03:31:26,160
Speaker 2: They can get their French fries and they can sit down.

3028
03:31:26,160 --> 03:31:27,600
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not you mean to throw you out,

3029
03:31:28,120 --> 03:31:33,040
Speaker 2: but they can sit down. And that ship it vexes

3030
03:31:33,080 --> 03:31:35,200
Speaker 2: me sometimes because it's like, damn, I know much I

3031
03:31:35,320 --> 03:31:38,360
Speaker 2: sacrifice for this industry. You not much I've done for

3032
03:31:38,480 --> 03:31:40,880
Speaker 2: this industry, and I can't even do it. I can't

3033
03:31:40,879 --> 03:31:46,439
Speaker 2: even get up McDonald's meal like without being but yehad.

3034
03:31:47,680 --> 03:31:52,320
Speaker 1: But you can. It's just you choose not to. So

3035
03:31:52,640 --> 03:31:57,600
Speaker 1: it's it's like, m I I wanted, like I watched

3036
03:31:57,680 --> 03:32:01,000
Speaker 1: the show probably since the beginning, thank you, thank you

3037
03:32:01,080 --> 03:32:04,680
Speaker 1: man than you, and you know, I was like, dag,

3038
03:32:05,800 --> 03:32:09,080
Speaker 1: if I go on this show, I want to have something.

3039
03:32:09,200 --> 03:32:11,400
Speaker 1: I want to have something because I know I got

3040
03:32:11,480 --> 03:32:14,440
Speaker 1: something right, but I want to have something more, like

3041
03:32:14,680 --> 03:32:18,000
Speaker 1: something to talk about. You know. I'm always with sepstance,

3042
03:32:18,160 --> 03:32:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, and that's the reason why I kind of

3043
03:32:21,400 --> 03:32:24,160
Speaker 1: duck and Dodge. You know when I saw you, I

3044
03:32:24,200 --> 03:32:27,000
Speaker 1: ain't ready, No, you know what, But you know what

3045
03:32:27,080 --> 03:32:28,520
Speaker 1: the beautiful part about that was.

3046
03:32:30,720 --> 03:32:32,440
Speaker 2: Was I got, like I said, like I started this

3047
03:32:32,520 --> 03:32:35,280
Speaker 2: interview off when I got to see you be so

3048
03:32:35,480 --> 03:32:39,320
Speaker 2: happy for another person and I got to see her come.

3049
03:32:39,360 --> 03:32:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying like you like you're one of these people

3050
03:32:41,600 --> 03:32:43,480
Speaker 2: that like you've done everything, like you know what I mean.

3051
03:32:43,600 --> 03:32:45,360
Speaker 2: Like we had Will Smith on here, I'm sorry to

3052
03:32:45,400 --> 03:32:48,840
Speaker 2: be and Will told us he said, man, there's a

3053
03:32:48,920 --> 03:32:49,600
Speaker 2: mountain top.

3054
03:32:50,800 --> 03:32:52,880
Speaker 1: And when he said that, what is it? What is it?

3055
03:32:53,520 --> 03:32:57,720
Speaker 2: What cliff top? And he was he was just ascribing

3056
03:32:57,800 --> 03:33:02,959
Speaker 2: to us how you can make it to the top

3057
03:33:03,520 --> 03:33:07,880
Speaker 2: and that should just not be enough. And that shit

3058
03:33:08,000 --> 03:33:09,320
Speaker 2: scared the ship out of me.

3059
03:33:09,520 --> 03:33:10,560
Speaker 1: That was ahead.

3060
03:33:10,560 --> 03:33:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry because I feel like you're about to say

3061
03:33:12,240 --> 03:33:13,120
Speaker 2: something because you're right.

3062
03:33:13,240 --> 03:33:16,720
Speaker 1: You're right. I always say, you know, it's easy to

3063
03:33:16,800 --> 03:33:19,880
Speaker 1: get to the top, but it's hard to maintain and

3064
03:33:20,000 --> 03:33:27,160
Speaker 1: stay there. And my formula to that is, this is

3065
03:33:27,240 --> 03:33:32,440
Speaker 1: the industry. If you're trying to sustain yourself, sometimes you

3066
03:33:32,520 --> 03:33:35,000
Speaker 1: got to sit down, just like let the sub come in.

3067
03:33:36,760 --> 03:33:38,760
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know how to let the subns.

3068
03:33:39,959 --> 03:33:45,840
Speaker 1: So that's what I did. I created subs. I created,

3069
03:33:46,400 --> 03:33:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, like architects that could fulfill what I'm doing

3070
03:33:51,080 --> 03:33:55,960
Speaker 1: while I'm sitting down, and that's what for well, you know,

3071
03:33:56,160 --> 03:33:58,920
Speaker 1: that's where they all come in. It's like that at

3072
03:33:59,040 --> 03:34:03,840
Speaker 1: least I know that something came from or came through

3073
03:34:04,200 --> 03:34:07,520
Speaker 1: me that I'm able to say that he's doing it.

3074
03:34:09,320 --> 03:34:12,600
Speaker 1: And when you see that, like writing the drunks as well,

3075
03:34:13,040 --> 03:34:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, and you're able to say that I'm a

3076
03:34:17,680 --> 03:34:21,359
Speaker 1: part of that. It's like when you said with the clips,

3077
03:34:21,920 --> 03:34:24,640
Speaker 1: that's the part I'm a part of that. That's that's

3078
03:34:24,760 --> 03:34:29,360
Speaker 1: my war too. You know I feel that way as well.

3079
03:34:30,360 --> 03:34:33,560
Speaker 1: But I'll never say it's like you smile inside that

3080
03:34:33,840 --> 03:34:37,440
Speaker 1: that really shows right here, it's all in here, and

3081
03:34:37,520 --> 03:34:41,080
Speaker 1: it's all in here, you know, and and that's what

3082
03:34:41,240 --> 03:34:46,360
Speaker 1: you're seeing. Because I'm proud, like like one hundred one

3083
03:34:46,520 --> 03:34:51,440
Speaker 1: thousand percent proud of all of them. I can tell

3084
03:34:51,800 --> 03:34:55,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's no, like never have

3085
03:34:55,480 --> 03:35:00,280
Speaker 1: been any type of heoration. No, because when you know,

3086
03:35:00,640 --> 03:35:04,720
Speaker 1: like when you see like you envisioned the tree, like

3087
03:35:06,920 --> 03:35:09,360
Speaker 1: it only adds on to you. But I got to

3088
03:35:09,360 --> 03:35:12,960
Speaker 1: see it. I'll stood behind you bro, you behind me,

3089
03:35:13,080 --> 03:35:15,680
Speaker 1: but you ain't see me drop the tear of joy.

3090
03:35:15,800 --> 03:35:18,960
Speaker 1: I did see that, you did. I did see that

3091
03:35:19,040 --> 03:35:23,920
Speaker 1: because I who was sitting right behind me? It was me.

3092
03:35:26,920 --> 03:35:30,720
Speaker 1: My wife was dead. I was almost wanted to say,

3093
03:35:31,000 --> 03:35:33,160
Speaker 1: get the camera because you know you were right here.

3094
03:35:33,240 --> 03:35:35,720
Speaker 1: You were exactly where e FN was to me.

3095
03:35:36,360 --> 03:35:39,840
Speaker 2: And what I realized was our whole chemistry the bose.

3096
03:35:39,720 --> 03:35:42,520
Speaker 1: Together at that very moment. I knew it already, but

3097
03:35:42,959 --> 03:35:46,000
Speaker 1: I looked and and and you know what, God bless

3098
03:35:46,080 --> 03:35:48,680
Speaker 1: hip hop man, God blessed hip hop man. God bless

3099
03:35:49,480 --> 03:35:51,840
Speaker 1: The last person that did that with me where I

3100
03:35:51,959 --> 03:35:55,840
Speaker 1: had a tear of joy was when I won We

3101
03:35:56,000 --> 03:36:00,800
Speaker 1: won the the Grammy for No Dignity. And then what

3102
03:36:01,000 --> 03:36:06,240
Speaker 1: came next was a Record of the Year and voice

3103
03:36:06,280 --> 03:36:13,600
Speaker 1: the Men one and Rick Rubin took a piece of

3104
03:36:13,680 --> 03:36:20,640
Speaker 1: paper and wrote that should have been your award, And

3105
03:36:20,840 --> 03:36:27,959
Speaker 1: I said, everything happens on God's time. Sometimes you gotta

3106
03:36:28,040 --> 03:36:32,720
Speaker 1: sit like I said, You gotta sit back that God

3107
03:36:33,920 --> 03:36:38,320
Speaker 1: stayed away. Are process. You trust the process. You know

3108
03:36:38,720 --> 03:36:41,160
Speaker 1: you get there. You just got to stay in, stay

3109
03:36:41,200 --> 03:36:44,800
Speaker 1: in the number in the game. Do another record. But

3110
03:36:44,959 --> 03:36:47,720
Speaker 1: let me just let me just end on this note,

3111
03:36:48,240 --> 03:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I really have to thank you again, Thank you again

3112
03:36:51,400 --> 03:36:58,000
Speaker 1: for your contribute, con your contribution to life, not only

3113
03:36:58,240 --> 03:37:02,880
Speaker 1: just music, Like your music changed people's lives. So I

3114
03:37:03,000 --> 03:37:06,680
Speaker 1: want to say thank you for what you contributed to life,

3115
03:37:07,600 --> 03:37:09,400
Speaker 1: even bigger than music, you know what I mean. Like

3116
03:37:09,480 --> 03:37:11,640
Speaker 1: when I'm sitting abound and I'm sitting bound, I was

3117
03:37:11,640 --> 03:37:16,959
Speaker 1: like this man, this man, caters are ears for.

3118
03:37:18,800 --> 03:37:22,720
Speaker 2: Thirty damn years and forty. Of course, of course the

3119
03:37:22,760 --> 03:37:25,840
Speaker 2: limit your name job was just downplaying it. But I'm

3120
03:37:25,920 --> 03:37:26,920
Speaker 2: doing it in the right way.

3121
03:37:27,200 --> 03:37:29,560
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is that shit is so

3122
03:37:29,640 --> 03:37:32,840
Speaker 1: beautiful man, Like I'm proud to know you. I'm proud

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Speaker 1: to be in the same area as you. I'm probably

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Speaker 1: be in the same room as you. I'm proud. And

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Speaker 1: me and him like we said, man, we want to

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Speaker 1: give people.

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Speaker 2: They flowers while they are alive, they trees while they

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Speaker 2: can smell them, and they thoughts where they can tell them.

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Speaker 2: And we want to tell you, thank you, brother, thank

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Speaker 2: you for being who you are, thank you for being

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Speaker 2: this you.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so scared because I'm looking at your people

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Speaker 1: and I can tell they want you to go, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you still got to do a picture

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Speaker 1: and dropping. But take one more shot. Oh I forgot,

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Speaker 1: I forgot. I jerked you on the shot. I jerked

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Speaker 1: you on the shot. I jerked you on the shot. Poor.

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Speaker 1: So you know how the ship is. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be got. I got this and silo, silo, and thank

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Speaker 1: you and take you to your team, man, thank you.

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Speaker 1: All of your team is beautiful. Man. They was on point.

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Speaker 1: Even though my Dominican friends send him the wrong address.

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Speaker 1: I'm blaming it on him. I'm blaming you, missing Lee.

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Speaker 1: I cannot blame him that. I'm blaming you because April

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Speaker 1: Crocket hit me. It was like, do you know you

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Speaker 1: have you have to tell you on yourself? Of course,

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Speaker 1: I know, you know. He goes. You know they're outside

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Speaker 1: and I'm going, this is no way and I know

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Speaker 1: it's other spots.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I believe it was him sending

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Speaker 2: the wrong address. I'm blaming him all on every day.

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Speaker 2: I'm blaming the Dominican guy. Thank you so much, though,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much. Just take a picture.

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