WEBVTT - Ep. 417 "The New Black Body" with Dr Michael Jones and Marcia Dyson 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:05.040 That's how we owned it. That's how we own it. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.119 What's up, Family, I'm your girl, Tamika D. Mallory. It's 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:10.480 your boy, my son in general, and we are your 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.760 hosts of street politicians, the place where the streets and 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:19.560 politics meet. What's goods? Another week we listen. We had 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.279 I think I mentioned last week, but we had over 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:27.520 thirty thousand downloads of new people to stause. I told 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.760 you number one. You think I'm playing number one, You 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.720 think we're playing number one, number one. We're going to 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.080 the top of the charts. And we got a new look. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.320 We got a new posters. When we did okay your 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:44.400 nice What was this from this double X when we 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.680 interviewed the freshman class. Yeah, we all need stres. You 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:52.360 see me with my little oh lord anyway, Yeah, your 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.240 African guards. That's I love the fact that you know 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.240 what I'm saying. I gotta do what I do, man, 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.400 You know what I represent. You see Black King's young 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.840 Black King. We're outside shout out to a b n 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.680 remember our friends that that Bronx logo on shout out 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.560 to b X logo logo. That's my guy. You know 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.720 what I'm saying. Came home from from prison and doesn't 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.560 understand the world. We left Thine hit the ground running. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.640 He ain't out there on hand man selling clothes out 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.520 his trunk. He got his shirts, shirts on screen, he 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:31.080 got CDs, he got your listening. And he also is, uh, 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:37.920 what's the word, not brokering but doing peace sort of deals. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:43.679 Oh yeah, he bought you together. Always back on the 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.760 same shoutout. Shout out to Hogan, Shout out to brons logo, 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.600 Shout out to everybody, Shout out to my man Katie 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.520 Katie's birthdays after we actually today. He was also one 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.720 of the people that, you know, a lot of times 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.400 we'll be having brothers as brothers we have disagree you know, 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.160 we have them, so sometimes we got to sit down 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.520 at the table. But it takes other brothers and sisters 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.840 that see what's happening and say, hey, the relationships are 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.880 too valuable and you got to bring people together and 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:15.240 make sure they have conversations. Shout out to bron Slogogo, bronlogo. Yeah, 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.480 I love this sweater. Actually, it's like shout out to trade. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.000 Ain't you by NASA? Asshole? He said, whatever one you 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:30.160 want to be asked whole by nature and Trade is 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:35.320 doing amazing work. Got a hot wheels. Trade got a 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.560 hot wheels. Did you see it? He got his own 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.480 hot wheels with the slab, you know, the new Chevy 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.720 with the spokes hanging out. Love the Trade guy everything. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.040 He should have it because he's in Louisiana, out there 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.560 risking his life, trying to save people right now in 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:54.080 the um in the with with Hurricane Ida, and there's 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.320 another hurricane comment that people are bracing themselves for. And 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.120 when I talked to Trade to the other day, the 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:04.679 way he looked was like it was it just and 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.520 Until Freedom is now trying to solicit um. We are 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:14.320 soliciting truck drivers to pick up supplies in the state 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.800 they live in and drive it down to Louisiana to 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.240 meet Trade and the family at Relief Gang so that 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.000 these UH supplies can be distributed. So if you have 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.840 a truck, you need to email us at organizing at 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.440 until Freedom dot com. You got a truck, you got 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.359 an extra few days, We'll get the supplies in your 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.640 in your area where you can pick them up and 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:38.240 bring it down to Louisiana. So today's show is I'm 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:42.520 super excited because you know got this belly, you know, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.960 and I'm you know, trying to consider exactly how well. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.920 First of all, I'm not two pound soaking with Okay, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.320 I'm not because I can remember a few months ago 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.280 that I was talking to like you, and I think 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.080 we were all on a call on on the zoom, 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:03.520 you and Angelo and Linda and somebody else, and I 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.880 was eating and it was like eleven something at night 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.600 and you were like, yo, you can't really eat that 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.160 at night, Like your face is fat, Like you really 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:15.000 hurt my feelings when you said what you said, and 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.080 it made no it wasn't a joke because it's true. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.800 It's true. But it's cool though. I think you know 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.080 a little way you need a little weight. Yeah, that's 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.840 what I'm saying. It's not like, yo, you're fat and sloppy. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.000 I'm just but you just stuff on your face at 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.040 eleven twelve o'clock at night, it's just like my favorite 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:37.520 time to eat. You gotta happen and I need a 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.719 whole steak at twelve a m. You listen to me, 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:46.120 women are so into vanity but don't want to do 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.120 the things that's necessary. You want to let me go 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.679 this nip tuck, let me do this. Well, how about 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.240 not eating at twelve o'clock? I know I do. You know? 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.839 How about some sit ups? How about this? I do 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.839 that too, but I might just imagine it down so 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.200 that and then I can have a start. Why don't 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:08.560 you start? I know, I'm gonna see with Jennifer Williams, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.599 my friend, my dear sister, our friend who is a 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:18.320 she's a workout expert. Okay, she's like yo six. They 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.120 don't do working out, no more like that, just they 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.080 just but you know, I think you can work out 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.640 in Hey, it's a balance. But you know today today today, 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:33.920 I might sometimes I do work out today. You don't 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.400 know everything. I'm just trying to when you do it 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.080 when I'm by myself. Yeah, people, sometimes I don't be 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.520 with y'all. I got my own thing I do. I 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.800 do work out, all right, thank you. And sometimes I 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.000 lay in my bed and I do these things with 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:53.960 my legs circular. I do that. I do a little 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.719 bit of squats that my knees because of the marching. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:02.160 My knees have issues where the squatting. They're telling me 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.440 I might not be able to do squatting as much. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.920 So I gotta find another way. I'm gonna figure it out. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.480 All I'm saying is that today there's a man who's 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.760 joining us that might be able to flatten it down. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.560 That's all I'm saying. Listen, I appreciate him. He's he's dope, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.159 but you know, I hope he tells you how to 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:24.839 start exercise. But before we get to our guests, we 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.480 have some other things. And you know, because I'll be thinking. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:39.800 I was just thinking to myself, Governor Abbot, right in Texas, right, 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.360 I saw you in a bunch of men, which thank 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.760 you so much, who all posted this thing that said, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:50.159 um men should not be controlling women's bodies. And I 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.240 think that is just so so so powerful that men 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:58.040 are making that statement. But Governor Abbott, it's either either 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:02.360 he hates women or he's just dumb. It's one of 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:06.919 two things. It could be both, but you know, no, 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.200 he's either either he hates women or he's just dumb. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.480 And the reason why I say that it is because 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.600 this statement that he made where he says, I know 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.480 what we're gonna do about the rapist. So this is 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:24.160 after in Texas they put all of these provisions around 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:28.320 women being able to get abortions, and in fact um 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.240 and I guess the six weeks. You can't get an 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.560 abortion after six weeks. But then I saw that the regulations, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.880 the people who actually regulated and reported are the citizens. 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.800 So it's it's pitting you and me against one another. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.760 That if you believe I shouldn't get an abortion, or 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.160 if you know you heard me say that I'm nine 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.520 weeks and I'm going somewhere to get an abortion, or 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.840 you learn about somebody who might be helping folks to 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.000 go get you know, the proper care, that you can 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.720 report me and then I can be fine ten thousand 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.560 dollars and get in trouble, like, hold the hell, what 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:04.240 are y'all talking about? It's so it's dangerous, it's ignorant, 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.440 and it's and it's white because you need to get 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:13.280 hit in your mouth and right talking people business. But anyway, 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.400 and so it is it's very dangerous. And what they're 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.200 doing isn't It isn't a It is a deliberate attempt 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.040 to roll back Rovie Wade and take away women's rights 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.200 to have abortions. And this has been something that we 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.960 knew that Republicans specifically, we're going to be working on 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.240 and that's why they wanted Kavanaugh to get his seat 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.199 on the Supreme Court. Um, and that's what they're doing. Right. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:40.160 The Supreme Court is already agreeing, unfortunately, with this decision 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:46.720 in Texas. So when the reporters asked Governor Abbott, he's 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:51.000 dumb or he's crazy or something. When they asked this man, 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:56.439 what are you gonna do about rapists, he responded, We're 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.360 gonna arrest the rapists, basically, gonna put a bounty on 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.920 the rapist's head. It so you're saying that after they rape, 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:07.240 you'll arrest him. So forget about the fact, like at 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.520 that point that I've been raped, I got a baby 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:14.840 in my stomach that I don't want, don't need, too young, whatever, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.640 all the circumstances that's just attached to the trauma that 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.120 I'm not even able to deal with. And so then 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:24.160 I'm just supposed to get to have this baby while 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.199 you arrest this rapist possibly. And by the way, the laws, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.960 just so you know, in a lot of ways do 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.880 not really protect women the way that they should or protect, 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.439 as you said, people who have been raped in general. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.839 So I'm trying to understand that he hate women or 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.000 is he stupid? You think he's a little bit of both, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.120 a little bit of both. I just think to force 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.960 someone to have a baby, you know, based on circumstances 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.320 that are less than fortunate, that are legal, that that 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.440 are traumatizing, you just can't do it. Just can't all 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.400 of those things. I mean. But when we when you 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.600 said the rape thing, that's just to me, it's just 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:07.199 like sid bro, like, come on, it's not even funny. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.719 It's really just sad because the mind state. Listen, I'm 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.600 trying to tell you, the mind state of a white 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.440 supremacist is dangerous, you know what I'm saying? Like something 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.520 I forgot. I think it was de l. Hugeley who 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.640 said the worst place for a black person to live 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.400 is in the mind of a white supremacis you know 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.040 what I'm saying. And when you start really looking at 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.600 these situations like it's so many, it's so deep. This 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.719 situation is just so deep, it goes beyond that. It's 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.679 a whole another show we can have. But just just 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.439 the dynamics of him just saying we're just gonna arrest 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.280 him and just not looking at what the question actually 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.559 was saying. The question was like what do you want 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.280 to do about the people rape these women? We still 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:51.560 got that the baby. Bro he's talking about something that's 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.760 not connected. It's not just arrest rapist. But we're saying 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.000 that the woman who now has the baby in her stomach, 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:05.480 who or or the or the fetus, the embryo, the embryo, 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.760 the embryo, the embryo, right or The feat is you're 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:14.800 now are carrying this thing, this life is life, and 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:20.400 you are saying, I cannot I think, well, it's potential, Like, well, 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.000 the point is that up until six weeks, what they're 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.040 saying is that it's not a life up until six weeks. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.840 Then they're saying after six weeks it becomes a life. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.319 What I'm saying is I it's not in the earth 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.559 in the world yet, and I can't think me right, 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.480 so and then and then you know, I mean, I 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.720 think about my own abortion story, and it's like, and 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.280 there's so many women who are telling their stories. If 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:54.479 I had a baby at the time that I was pregnant, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.800 and by the way, I was more than six weeks pregnant, 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.240 and I had to have a two day proceed year 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.880 where the first day they go in and they do 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.320 something that basically makes you start contracting and then the 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.440 next day they go in and take the baby. I 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.559 had to go through that because I was too young 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.400 to have a baby. First of all, I didn't even 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.360 know I was pregnant, because I don't even know my body. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.959 For too long, I didn't know. I didn't know anything 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.600 about being pregnant. Then when I figured out that I 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.240 was pregnant, I was too scared to tell someone that 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:26.880 I was that I was pregnant. I don't tell my 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.640 mother that. So all of the decision making, trying to 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.040 get my friends to help me find a place to go, 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.640 and everything that I went through. It took me some time. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.800 And then, by the way, I wasn't putting that on 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.600 my parents insurance policy because I didn't want them to know. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.840 I didn't know that at that time that they wouldn't know, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.040 but I thought they might have started to get the 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.840 money together to go have an abortion. It was a 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.640 lot of stuff that had to happen. I had. I 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.240 needed time to get it together. And so you know, 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.640 there are people with stories similar stories, and I just 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.120 I don't And even if we do decide as women 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.280 that we shouldn't be having abortions at a certain time, 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.200 it should be our decision to make, and we should 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.360 be having those conversations in conjunction with other women leaders 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.760 and then deciding what is the best for what's the 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.880 best for us, for our bodies, and of course keeping 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.240 in mind that there is a father, there is a 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.280 man who's involved that should be able to have some 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.080 say so. But nonetheless, I, as a woman, have to 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.960 be the one to bring life. And I just I'm 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.800 just the thing that scares me is that then the 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.240 idiot And excuse me, I don't know if I'm supposed 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.280 to call people idiots, but I said it. But the 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.360 other one that either hates women or is dumb and 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.720 hates black people and hates poor people and hates everybody 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:41.440 is governor the Santis in Florida. Now he's talking about, 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:42.959 Oh yeah, we're gonna look at the same type of 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.480 thing here, and it's going to be everywhere. It's gonna 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.040 be an Alabama, It's gonna be everywhere if we don't 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.560 stop it. So it's a very very very serious and 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:55.240 concerning thing. Um and and and and and it's scary 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:59.720 as hell. And what's more scary is what women will 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.680 do as an alternative because they ain't gonna have no baby. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.720 If they can't have a baby, that's a fact. We 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.240 know that because we remember, yeah and watch the movie 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:19.800 what is It? Precious? It's in there, you know what. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.800 I appreciate the fact that you let me on us 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.600 on this show, have so many people that helped me 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:30.400 think through my own life's choice. You know, you make 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.160 a lot of decisions. I don't. I don't we make 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.800 them together. I mean, don't try to act like you 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.040 know we don't have them. But see the guests that 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.880 we have today here with us. UM is going to 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.240 talk about some stuff that engage involves men as well, 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:49.280 not just us women in our class. It's about time. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.320 So I am so grateful to have Dr Michael Jones 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.360 with us today. Now for you all who may not know, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.440 first of all, you've seen them on TV. Of course 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.480 you have. We actually put up a post looking for 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.120 some uh folks out there who may have had botched 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.280 plastic surgery jobs, and people were like, well, I don't 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:09.960 I didn't have that, But I know you need to 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.040 have Michael Jones. You need to have Dr Jones because 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.960 they've been watching you on TV. He is a celebrity. 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.520 Um And you know, he probably doesn't want him to 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.800 be called a celebrity, but he's a celebrity. The world 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.680 renow the world renowned plastic surgeon to many of the 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:31.160 stars across the country. There have been people who talk 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.560 about the great work and service that they've had um 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.680 with Dr Michael Jones. And he also specializes in ethnic 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.640 care and and specifically key Lloyd's, which we're really really 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.880 going to delve into today. Um My, A couple of 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.040 my family members suffer with key Lloyd's and it's always 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.680 been a conversation since we were small. People could not 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.800 get piercings. M My sister actually never was able to 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.040 pierce her ears, and there was always a concern that 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.120 any nick you get it could turn into a Hi 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.880 Lloyd because it's obviously a big stigma in our community. 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.680 So we're really happy to have you here to talk 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.920 about this stuff today, Dr Jones. I am really happy 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.840 to be here. Thank you for having me on your show. Yes, 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.080 welcome the street politicians and hearing all you guys talk 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.680 me up that just I just feel great. Yeah no, 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.440 but you I mean, you are who you are. We 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.560 don't have to make it up. You had nine offices 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.920 around the country, so your servicing people everywhere. Listen, we 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.880 want to be where the people are, and not all 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.760 of our patients can come to us here in New 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.080 York City, so we reached out. We went to other 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.560 cities where there is a high density of people of color. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.320 So we're also in New Jersey, We're also in the 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:43.160 d C. Area. We're also in Atlanta, also in Florida, Miami, Houston, 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.280 and l A. Now, but people act like they're not 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.320 getting plastic surgery, like they're like, you know, no, these 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.040 are my breast you know, well, you know, more and 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.320 more people are being more open about it. It's it 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.120 used to be taboo in our community. People were like, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.240 oh no, that's that's something that's not for us as 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.080 people of color. It's more for those rich white people. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.399 But the reality is people have been black people have 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.240 been having plastic surgery for years. It's just now starting 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.679 to become more commonplace where we actually talk about it 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.760 and we're okay sharing our experience. That makes sense, Okay, 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:18.600 So two piggyback off of what Tomka just said, um 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.440 as you being one of the people who talk about 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.240 we have some males up here for a change, because 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.920 it always about what women are dealing with most of 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.000 the time. You know, two questions I want to ask, First, 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.160 is what made you get into plastic surgery? And then 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.880 I want to also ask, like, how many men actually 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.840 get plastic surgery? Alright, great questions. I went into plastic 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:45.000 surgery because I love making people happy. And I started 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:49.920 off doing oncology type of surgery. It's cancer surgery, and 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.720 it was difficult for me because I like to get 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.359 to know my patients. I like to get to know 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.919 their families. And then I would spend eighteen twenty twenty 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.159 four hours trying to remove their cancer and reconstruct their 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:05.480 their defects after we took the cancer out, and despite that, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.560 many times those patients would die. And so then that 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.600 was really hard for me to handle. So I wanted 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.640 to change. I wanted to to pivot and take care 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.040 of patients that I could grow old with, people that 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.800 I can make a difference in their lives, people that 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.439 I could actually help restore their self confidence, their self esteem, 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.679 make them feel better about themselves, whether it's because of 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.600 a cosmetic issue or a reconstructive issue. And so that's 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.240 kind of why I went into what I do. Mhm. 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.920 So the men, now, as far as men brothers are 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:42.080 having plastic surgery, believe it, they are. We we have surgery. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.760 The most common procedures for us are liposuction because we 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.919 we struggle to get rid of those love handles and 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.720 that little bit of fat down the lower abdomen. Bleft replasty, 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.800 the eyelids, the bags under the eyes, the bags over 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.800 the eyelids, that's very common for men. And then rhinoplastic 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:00.879 um is really one of the most common things for 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:05.959 men that no surgery, nose reshaping where we're actually you know, 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.920 helping to define the nose or refine it or get 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.600 rid of a defect or hump or bump or wide 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:16.000 nostrils or flat bridge. So men, okay, But the the 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:20.359 the narrative that's out there is that it's mainly gay 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.639 men who are having you know, surgery to make themselves 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.960 look more I guess feminine. I guess, you know, But 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.800 I don't know that that's true because I think that 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.639 is not the case. It is not the case. We 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:38.000 do have our share that are doing somewhere like licosuction 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.520 or Brazilian butt lifts for certain reasons. But that is 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.800 not the majority that we see. The majority are very 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:49.160 you know, confident, testosterone producing men. They really are are 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:53.320 are inclined to want to just look better. Well, yeah, 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.879 because there ain't These men ain't men. The first person 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.439 I've heard, it's only two people that I know that 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.800 um Kanye said that he got some surgery done, and 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.080 I know that funk Master Flex actually talked about it. 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.160 But it's not a lot of men who really say 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.760 that they're going on. I think it definitely is a stigma, 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.080 like men don't really want to talk about it, but 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.560 it's not something that is prevalent that actually know about. 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.359 So to hear you say this is like, well, so 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.919 all the men in the gym who are looking like 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.919 you know that they are all sexy. You're telling me 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.000 some of them have actually sucked it out, just like 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:27.560 a few of us, because I need to suck mine 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:29.639 out to tell you the truth. Listen, some of us, 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:31.560 some of us will. You know, you might be in 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.520 the gym, you're working out, but you still may need 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.880 a little help. You may not be able to see clearly. 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.320 I'm gonna tell you this story. I'm not gonna tell 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:42.399 your name, but we had a Mr. Olympian and an 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.000 Olympian Mr. You know the guys who do the muscle 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:49.200 building contest. This guy won many of them. But every 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.840 time he prepared for a contest, he gave himself a 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.440 little steroids. So when he gave himself the steroids, he 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.119 would get a little pooch. He would get a little 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.160 bit of what called kind of comasteria where he gets 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.840 a little man boots. And he didn't like that and 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.360 it effected his competition. So we helped him by doing 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.639 a little micro liposuction, little mini liposuction in those areas 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.800 to get rid of those problem parts of his body. 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.120 But this was a big dude, so slim people like 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.840 me right because I'm little. Most people look at me 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.000 and they're like, there's nothing wrong with you. But there 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.600 is a pouch that is sitting out in my stomach 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:27.520 and it's so funny. We went to Fatio's birthday party 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:31.639 recently and I had on this really nice dress and 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:35.479 it was nice and fitted, and I was speaking and 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.040 I knew going out the door that I had the 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.520 conversation in the mirror, like, oh, this is really serious. 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:43.800 I knew it was growing. I've been seeing it. It's 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.639 it's not just pandemic weight, it's just weight period. And 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.440 I but when I finished talk, you know, speaking at 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:54.160 his event, the pictures went viral and many of them 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.399 came back to me with people who were my friends, like, 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.080 what's going on with your stomach? Are you pregnant? Because 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.639 my stomach is it's out. So people like me, do 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:07.719 they get liposection or they're too small? People like you 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:11.920 get liposection. Realistically, LiPo suction is for the young. It's 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.720 really shouldn't be done in people that are older because 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:16.920 as we get older, our skin allasts to see. That 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.960