WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show A Conversation with Buck Sexton 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.560 Hello, and welcome to the Carol Markowitz Show on the 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:07.800 Clay and Buck podcast network on iHeartRadio. One of the 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.360 things we're going to be talking about a lot on 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.960 this show is how we're lied to about marriage and 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.960 kids and generally about family life. There was a viral 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:22.080 video on TikTok recently. Now I'm not on TikTok, I'm 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.000 on Instagram like a grown up, and so I see 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.960 the tiktoks as reels three weeks later. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.280 But I saw this one and it really stuck with me. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.159 In it, the girl is accepting an engagement ring, and 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.280 as she pushes her finger through the ring, it flashes 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:41.200 to her. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:42.800 Life becoming one of drudgery. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.519 She's doing laundry, she's washing floors, she's rocking a baby, 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.040 and when she takes her finger out of the ring, 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.239 it's back to her regular life. The ring is what 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.480 locks her into this terrible, difficult life. So the conversation 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.680 around this clip is that some people believe it's anti 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.680 marriage propaganda from China, and maybe it is. I should 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.840 ask my EXCIA friend Buck Sexton what he thinks. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.200 But I have a few thoughts overall on this clip. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.160 So, first of all, does this woman not do laundry 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.640 or clean her house currently. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:18.360 I remember single life. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.440 It was a lot of doing laundry alone and making 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.800 my bed alone and cleaning up alone. 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.440 Now I do the majority of. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.039 The housework, but I also work at my job a 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:34.200 lot fewer hours than my husband does at his, and 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.000 I absolutely have help from him, like, Babe, can you 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:38.920 put the clothes in the dryer? 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:39.520 Babe? 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:43.240 Can you unload the dishwasher? Yes, we call each other babe. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.760 But two, it's interesting that people think this is propaganda 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.760 from China. Now, why would China want to discourage Americans 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.600 from getting married. Aren't they afraid of independent girl bosses 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.840 and fifty year old men who act like they're twenty 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.400 in the club. It's believable that a video like this 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.680 would come from an adversary because deep down, no matter 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.079 how many videos Chelsea Handler puts out on how much 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.359 she loves sleeping alone, we know that marriage is. 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:14.240 A worthy goal. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.040 Couples who are married are more successful, they make and 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.919 save more money, they live healthier lifestyles. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.279 There's just an array. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.200 Of benefits to getting married that are not debatable, and 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:29.440 that maybe China doesn't want our people to have there's 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.200 also just, you know, being around someone you love and 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.720 who loves you and wants to make you happy. It's 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.600 all very nice. I can tell you that I bought 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.160 into this lie in my twenties, before I started dating 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.360 my husband. I never wanted to get married. I used 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.440 to wake up in cold sweats having had a nightmare 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.640 that I had gotten accidentally married. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:51.200 Somehow. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.840 I was immature, and yes I was dating the wrong people, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.360 but I also believed. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.240 That marriage was the end of life. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:04.160 Kids were so boring. I did not want to be boring. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.200 I wanted to have an exciting life. You know, there's 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.200 that line in the old movie when Harry met Sally 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.720 when she says that they always talked about how they 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.440 could fly off to Paris on a moment's notice, but 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:18.840 they never actually did. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:20.160 That was me. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.040 I wanted to be free and available to fly to 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.120 Paris on a moment's notice and. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.040 Listen, while I had a good time. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.600 In my single days, stuff like that really didn't happen. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.040 I'm much more likely to take a trip to Paris today, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.760 and it might not be at a moment's notice because 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:42.600 the kids have a lot of sports. The lie is 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.920 that marriage and family are the end, but it is 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:51.200 a lie. Stability and family life opens doors to happiness 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.080 that were not open before. Doors you might not even 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.160 know exist. You're going to be doing laundry and washing 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.320 your floors with or without your may as well have 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:02.360 somebody with you. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.440 Through the drudgery and the trips to Paris. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.800 The other lie is that you have to pursue your 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:12.360 career before settling down, and this lie is often specifically 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.800 sold to men. This is absolutely backwards. When you have 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.159 a comfortable home, when somebody loves you and takes care 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.040 of you, it's a lot easier to do your job 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:28.040 and pursue opportunities. Married men make more money than single men, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.680 and this is a fact. It also just makes a 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.240 lot of sense. The guy's wipe being on Tinder every 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.880 night just isn't going to have the same focus as 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.440 the man who has a family to support. But it's 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.320 true for women too. A pupil in twenty twenty one 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.120 found that coupled women were making more money than single 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:51.080 women for the first time ever. They were out earning 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.760 their single counterparts by quite a bit. And I say 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.560 this all the time, but I've never actually met a 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.480 woman who didn't get married because she was too focused 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.599 on her career. I know that that trope exists. I 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.200 have heard it many times of the busy career woman 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.000 who just forgot to get married, but I literally don't 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.080 know her, and I have met quite a few people 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.640 along the way, because let's be real, meeting the right 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:24.279 person is often also the luck of the draw. You 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.200 have to be open to it, yes, but there's some 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.920 luck involved. As I said earlier, I didn't want to 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.320 get married when I was in my twenties because I 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.839 was deathly afraid of having to spend my life with 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.320 the wrong person. I know that it was luck and 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.240 timing that led to my husband and me getting together, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.320 but it was also discarding the bad ideas that had 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.919 taken hold in my mind about what marriage is or 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.000 is not. If you're a single person, whether a man 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.920 or a woman, and you're listening to this and you're thinking, 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.200 I get it. I know marriage is the best, but 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:03.000 I haven't met person know that I understand. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.560 I totally get it. I see you. I'm rooting for you. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.160 I know it's not easy, and I hate that you 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.960 get criticized for being unmarried. I hope that the advice 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.880 that I will offer in later episodes will help you 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.000 in your search, and I hope that you do find 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.039 your person because it is something great and I want 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.320 you to be a part of it. My final comment 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.920 is that it's very hard for people to see their 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.480 lives in the future, and this is partially why they're 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.159 susceptible to the lie that marriage is the end of 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.160 the fun life. The guys hanging out with their friends 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.359 on a Sunday watching football and playing video games, or 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:44.320 the girls brunching post college and the big city. They 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:48.120 can't imagine a time when one by one their friends 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:52.320 will pair off and that is what will happen. They 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.960 imagine that these fun times will last forever. So while 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.919 I do think again that luck is involved in meeting 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.919 the right person, there's also the people who discount the 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.640 right person because it might not be the right time 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.560 and they can't picture their lives beyond the current moment. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.080 I think that's where the current push to marry young 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.160 comes from. It's about encouraging people in their twenties to 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.960 try to picture their lives in five to ten years. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.520 You're not going to be on the bean bag at 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.880 Jimmy's house playing Madden eras do come to a close, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.680 and that's not a bad thing, but I think it 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:35.280 needs to be clarified that, sure, marry young if you've 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.920 met the right person, don't marry young just to marry young. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:39.840 We'll get more. 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.240 Into all of these ideas in future episodes, and I 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.280 do hope you listen along. If you'd like for me 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.480 to answer your questions or offer my advice, the email 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.960 is Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com, and I'd 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:57.040 love to hear from you. My guest today is my 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.160 friend Buck Sexton, co host of The Clay Travis and 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:01.280 Buck Sexton Show. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.160 Hi, Buck, Hey, Carol, how are you good? 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.240 Did you petition to make it the Buck Sexton and 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.400 Clay Travis Show or no? 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:08.480 No. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.600 I always liked to be the guy that everyone can 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.360 count on to just carry my side. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:18.160 The thing, I don't make any petitions, So. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.320 I wanted to ask you a little bit about yourself. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.160 You know, I feel like I know you quite well, 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.080 but I didn't know the answer to some of these. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:29.760 So did you always want to be in radio? Definitely, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:30.640 definitely not. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:37.760 I was somebody who was a CIA officer because I had, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.160 you know, nine to eleven happened, and I just was 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.480 one of those people who thought I was in college 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:43.920 and I thought, how can I help? 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.839 And so senior year, I mean it happened. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.840 When I was a sophomore, I was studying Midi's politics 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.439 and things like that, and then senior year, the first 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.199 job I applied for was with the CIA. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.120 Everyone else was like, I want to go to Goldman Sachs. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.120 I'm want to go to a K and they're like, 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:01.760 what do you want to do? 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.040 Buck, And it was a little weird because I didn't 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.520 really I didn't tell anybody because I wasn't really sure 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:06.480 if I was going to try. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.840 To CIA material right part of the CIA I was 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:09.280 going to do. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.760 So I just sort of, you know, did my thing 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.520 and then figured I'd go through some on campus recruiting 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.440 just for the for the experience, which was also pretty funny. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:20.360 And I got the CIA job. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.160 So I did that for years, and then I did 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.960 NYPD and Tellen's Division, and then long story short, Glenn 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.440 Beck found me, like just found word of me and 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.800 hired me and convinced me not to go to business school. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.160 That's that's about ten years of my life condensed. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:38.360 Thanks Glenn Beck. 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.960 Actually My very first time on TV was on Blaze 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:42.760 TV with you. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.760 So, you know, long long road to get here. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.560 Were we nice to you? There was a lot nice. No, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.679 you guys were super nice. Yeah, it was you, It 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.920 was Will Kine, it was se Cup. You guys were 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:54.840 all super nice. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:55.680 Good. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.760 So you have the best, the biggest radio show in 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.080 the country, and you know the let's say. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.640 You know whatever. I think. So, yeah, do you feel 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.679 like you've made it? No? 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.520 No, I mean I think that every day I have 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.000 to do a better show. I think that every day 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.360 after a show, I think about what I could have 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:16.319 done differently. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.840 I think that in our business you have to. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.920 You can really go astray and start to drive yourself 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.680 a little crazy unless you really focus on the work. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:32.480 And you know, there's a lot of noise and you know, 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.160 a lot of things going wrong in the background of 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.560 media all the time. But ultimately, I just try to 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.800 serve Rusha's audience every day because I still it's, you know, 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.920 an audience that Rush built over thirty thirty plus years. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.400 So no, I mean, I'm writing a book right now 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.920 which is has gone from being exciting and fun to 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.120 a little bit overwhelming too. Now it is like I 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.120 feel like I am because I'm I don't know, thirty 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.120 thousand words into it maybe so you know, get and 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.800 it feels like I'm breaking like rocks with my bare fists. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:04.240 Every day. 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.480 I'm just like, make this stop, make this stop. So yeah, no, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.280 I don't. I wouldn't say that. I feel like I've 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:10.720 made it. I feel like I've got more I've got 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:11.880 to do every day. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.640 So as somebody who just wrote a book for the 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.800 first time in the last year, I have to tell 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.120 you it only gets worse. You're like in maybe the 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.479 honeymoon period if you're still writing, editing. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.040 Is really well. I mean, I'll just tell you this. 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.280 You know, this is something that things get bad. I 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.040 don't know how much. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.840 People really know about this, but very I should say 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.480 very few, but most people in the news commentary space 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.400 don't actually write their own books. And when you meet 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.200 with publishers, if you have a platform that can sell 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.640 the book, they're very and this is just true across 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:46.439 the board publishers. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.960 They'll be like, hey, I mean, do you really want 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.000 to write it yourself? You really? Are you sure about that? 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:53.760 Because like we can get someone that sort of comes 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.320 in and you guide and you know, yeah, And I 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.080 mean I always said that I would do the book 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.360 writing myself, and now I see why a lot of 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.080 people are just. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.800 Like, I'm going to pay somebody else to do that 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:06.160 for me. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.840 Well, just to give you an idea of our different 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.920 levels of fame. You get asked whether you want to 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.800 write your own book. I get asked to write other 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.840 people's books. So, but I've never done it. I you know, 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:20.960 I just not not that there's anything wrong with that, 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.200 but I just, you know, never took anybody up. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.920 On that offer. So what's it like to lead a 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.280 public life? Like? Do you get recognized a lot? Do 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:36.680 you like it? It's funny? I don't really, I don't. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.240 I don't feel like a public person at all. I 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.120 don't really. I don't ever think of myself that way. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:42.800 So it does. 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.960 And unless you're in the conservative media space, I mean, 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.959 some people, you know, I've done Bill Maher a couple 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:49.440 of times. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:50.960 I mean, there's some stuff I've done that's a lot. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.720 I used to work at CNN, so there are people 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.240 who are not just conservative who would somewhat recognize my face. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.360 And I am told by people that apparently I do not. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.960 Age and I do not change, so there is that 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.640 I look the same many many years now into this. 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:07.800 Although I don't have a beard anywhere. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.120 I don't know Carol, do you Carol knows my wife 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:11.920 Carrie very well, what do you? 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.640 What do you think of no beard? Are you? I mean, 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.280 team Carrie? What does she want? Team Carrie says no beard? 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.440 So then no beard. It's easy answer. So yeah, so 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.240 that she got Obviously she got her wish. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.360 But it's kind of funny because people in the audience 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.079 will like weigh in very heavily one with the other 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:27.920 on this, and I'm. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:31.320 Like, whatever you do, look super young, thank you. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.800 I mean, you know, whatever the wife wants is what 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.360 I'm going to do. I'm I mean, I'm in my 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.760 forties now, this is like it's real. I'm gonna I mean, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.520 I'm an adult human person, which is crazy. 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:49.600 So anyway, where was I to switch to? You know, 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.160 a related topic? You got married and we. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.200 Did Wait did I answer? You asked me a question? 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:55.800 What was the question? 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.880 I feel like, like leading a public life, I think, 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.719 oh I did know I was. I'm also going to say, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.440 you're like, oh, I don't get recognized that much, but 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.079 I have been sent drinks for free because I was 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:05.839 sitting next to you. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.680 So you know, well that makes me happy. That's like 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.319 a really good thing. That's a really good thing to hear. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.640 I would say this people when they know you from radio, 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.320 because they spend so much time with you, because radio 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:21.840 is a long form and it's a daily thing, and 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.360 you really build a relationship with the audience. People who 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.640 know me from radio and they wreckon sometimes actually recognize 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.280 me by my voice instead of my face. Like this 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.880 is happening with like uber drivers and different cities. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:33.320 I'll visit. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.360 They they'll kind of like look back and then you know, 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:40.120 they'll say, wait a second. But people that know you 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.840 from radio want to hug you, and just like they'll 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.040 ask me, like how Carrie's doing? 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:43.640 You know what I mean. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.800 They're just like they'll jump right into it. There's no TV. 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.840 You do Fox. I've done Fox. I used to do CNN. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.160 It's a little more like I think I saw you 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:54.640 when I was on the treadmill recently. You don't even 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:55.520 it's a different kind of. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.520 A recognition, right, Yeah, all right, So are you guys 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.360 about getting married radio radio? 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.000 I think people really feel like they get to know 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.040 you so, yeah, you got married in the last year 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.480 and that, you know, that's a bit on the later side. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.880 I would say, right, you just told us your age. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.720 I got married at thirty one. Also, you know, I 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.280 think a little on the later side, especially as the 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.960 conversation right now on the right is you should get 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.760 married young, you should get married younger. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.920 What do you think about that? I mean, thirty one 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:24.600 for New York. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.520 City, that's like, no, I know, I thought I was babies. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.640 Having babies, but totally standard. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.360 I mean, that's like, I mean, I don't know any 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.400 I don't think I had any like you know peers 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.560 from you know, growing up in New York that in 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.320 their late twenties early thirties, like that was when it 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:40.960 started to happen. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.160 I didn't know anybody who was married by like twenty five. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:47.000 For example, at the CIA, I did way more common 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.240 the CIA for people to get married really young. But 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.160 you know a lot of them are from other parts 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.400 of the country. Right, what would I say about getting married? 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:59.480 I mean, I would say, man, i feel like I'm 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.680 too early, and that problem. There are so many things 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.960 where I feel like I've experienced enough and know enough 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.160 where I have a lot of worthwhile things to say. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:08.240 On being married. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:09.720 I mean it's been less than a year, so I'm 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.440 still learning very much. I do think here's what I 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:21.080 what I can definitely say. People that mortgage their their 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.240 lives as a possible you know, family, you know, people 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:28.080 that give up that for a job, are overwhelmingly not 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.040 happy with that when when all said and done. I 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.080 think it's true of men and women. A little bit 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.760 harder for women because of the realities of of you know, 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.320 the biological clock that they have to work with. So 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.080 I do think that people should If I hadn't made 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.880 a career, made a massive career change switch cities, if 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.560 I had been a little bit more in one place 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.920 and a little more settled and who I you know 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.360 what I was trying to do, I would have I 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:53.560 would have wanted to get married younger. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.040 To be honest with you, you know, if. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.080 I could have met Carrie, that's it. 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.360 It's ten years ago. I would have been happy to 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:01.800 have done that. 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.840 But the other side of it is, I'm I'm a 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.600 person who thinks that, you know, it should be one 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.440 and done. I mean, I know life is not perfect 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.240 and whatever, and so I would have mind my thinking On. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.080 It was I'd rather wait until I can get it 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.760 right than sort of just give it a shot and maybe, 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.920 you know, take two or three shots at this over 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:20.560 my lifetime. 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.800 So absolutely, did you see that story you know about 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.120 Representative Bobert. You know, she gets handsy in the movie theater. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.679 Obviously we all saw that. But there was a piece 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:34.480 in Salon by Amanda Marquotte saying that the reason she's 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.800 blaming her shenanigans the Bobert shenanigans on the fact that 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.400 she got married young, and that this is the way 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.119 that she's acting out because she didn't get a. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.840 Chance to do this when she was young. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.160 And of course, you know, Marquote is the one who 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.880 wrote that piece about the tyranny of the home cooked meal. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.800 So obviously take anything she says with a large grain 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.960 of salt. But is there anything to that where getting 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:59.159 married young would have kept you know, Bobert's hands or 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.080 not getting married young she would have been behaving differently 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:02.680 in that theater. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.679 No, I mean, I don't, I don't really see that. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.000 I look, I will tell you, I'm it's funny cause 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.040 I'm talking to Carol like she's my interviewer, Like Carol 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:15.800 and I are friends and hang out in real life, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:16.520 so this is a little bit. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.240 It's a little funny because she's like, so tell me 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.080 Buck of the things of which you think on these things. 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.960 I'm like, yeah, like didn't we didn't I text you 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:30.080 like five minutes ago about this offline anyway, I would say, uh, 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:31.639 I'm very. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:36.479 Uh impatient with people who have bad manners in public. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.880 It's it's actually a problem for me. Like in life. 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.240 It's a little bit of a challenge because I like 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.800 to think that I'm very understanding and very reasonable with people, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.199 right and you know, I get it, Like you know, 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.199 I'm the one who if I can see, you know, 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.399 a server in a restaurant is busting you know, his 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.639 or her butt to do everything they can, but they're understaff. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.840 Like I'm the one who tells. I'm like, hey, it's cool, 0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:59.360 I get I can you know, I can see what's 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.479