WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Full Steam Ahead 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.640 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:18.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.720 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:27.400 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:34.600 and Nicky Spagnola and it's time for another edition of 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.519 mix Shots. It is our final edition of mix Shots 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.520 for the month of March, and we are now less 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.239 than a month away from the first round of the 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:50.040 National Football League Draft, which is Thursday, April twenty ninth. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:55.440 Bill Jones with Everson Walls and Mickey Spagnola inside the 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.000 s WBC Mortgage studios there at Ford Center at the 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.520 Star in Frisco. And there's so much to get to 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.120 as the Cowboys are trying to put this team together 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.319 and the NFL is talking about putting a schedule together 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:16.440 that includes seventeen games, one fewer preseason game. Let's start 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.639 with you, Micky, how are you doing on this fine 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.560 Tuesday morning. I am doing great. And you know what, 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.880 when you are with a bunch of older guys, don't 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.119 ever start the show by saying this is the finals. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.000 I said, Oh no, does he know something I don't know? 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:42.440 Why did you hear? So? How you doing? I am 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.600 doing well. This is what the last day I believe 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.480 of National Women's Mouth. Is that correct? No, y'all want 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:55.960 the world don't tomorrow? Yeah, I'm what are you honoring today? 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.360 I am honoring today my mother who has passed on. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:04.720 This is her birthday today, Weta Walls. The Weta is 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.680 o U I d A. I would always have to 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.440 clarify that it's French. So the old is silent. And 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.399 I always help something against my people because they name 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:20.119 us all of these weird names. I never liked Everson, 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.399 you know, of course, you know, you know my mom 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:23.720 gave it to me, so I have to love it. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.840 But everyone always said it wrong. Emerson. Uh, you know, 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.519 my dad's name was Welling w E L l O. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.280 And all these country names. Her name Weeda. You know. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.760 It's like when you get the mail. When you get 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.480 the mail, all of our names are misspelled. I don't 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.000 care growing up all of our names are misspelled. But 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:48.080 happy birthday to wed the Walls. This is her birthday 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.880 to day, so I have to definitely honor her. And 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.720 if you check my Facebook post, you know you'll see 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.160 that you know gave a little honorarium to it, just 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.320 to make sure everybody realize how much we loved her 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.080 and how important she was to Hey, if it wasn't 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.320 for her, guys, oh my god, you you wouldn't know me. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.440 You would not know me. I would never know you. See, 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.320 just like most mothers, they saved our lives. They saved 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.560 us from ourselves. So I want to thank we the 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.480 walls for doing that and saving me from my my 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.240 my worst habits that I had that she had to 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.520 break me from. I'll put it away. Hey, there's only 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:28.000 one person, only one person on this show that that uh, 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:33.400 nobody had trouble with spelling first or last name. Okay, Yeah, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.840 I ever said I was gonna say, I was gonna 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.200 tell you go through life with the name Bill Jones 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.920 and then complain about right. I can see the other 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.040 side of that. I would love to have a unique name. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.119 I can see. I can see the other side of that. Definitely, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.640 where your high can I've had more. I've had more 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.680 volves added to my last name than you can shake 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:03.040 a stick at. And well we're at it. Then I'll 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.280 give a shout out to my late mother as well. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:10.880 Her birthday April third, coming up this week twenty seventh, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.560 they were born exactly coming up one week apart, March 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:19.120 twenty seventh April third, and how how amazing is that? 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.960 And then twenty nine years later they came together in 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.000 marriage and here we are today, all right there, Yes, 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:30.680 the Cowboys are trying to come together in marriage with 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.880 over the last couple of weeks in free agency, and 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:39.160 they still have a one huge gaping hole in one 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.640 spot in their secondary. Mickey, where do you where do 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.200 you think the Cowboys are in free agency right now? 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.840 And of course that gaping hole right now in the 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.200 secondary is at one of those starting cornerback spots. Is 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:55.680 they have not replaced Cheetawwoozia who signed with Cincinnati. Yeah, 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:00.200 and I understand that with a with a veteran. At 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:04.359 least they have Anthony Brown who they did sign last 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.440 year to a multi year deal, so they can use 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.920 him as a veteran starter no matter what happens or 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.120 should happen in the draft or if the guy's ready 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:20.040 or not, Mike, gaping hole still is the backup quarterback 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:25.520 position that they have not addressed yet. I was encouraged 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:32.360 though listening to Mike McCarthy last week during his media conference, 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:37.159 saying that they have spoken to several veterans and they'll 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.520 continue to kind of monitor that position. But he did 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.919 call the quarterback position and I know Everson doesn't like 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:49.240 this the most important position on the team, and to me, 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.640 one should get Dak Prescott signed. The next most important 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.159 position is the guy behind him. And I'm just not 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:03.279 sure they're willing to go into training camp with three 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:08.160 guys that have like a combined uh three starts. Maybe 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.960 I think I added them up if I got that correct. So, uh, 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.080 that's something that we should keep an eye on. Although 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.560 you know what, guys, with with how volatile the quarterback 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:23.480 position is along the league, there's gonna be some guys 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.400 released or some guys gonna be cheap, especially after the 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.920 draw up last year. Mickey, Right, exactly where did Cowboys 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.599 get Andy Dalton last year? It was after Joe Burrow 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.039 was drafted number one overall by Cincinnati. So so true, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.719 So yes, as that goes, yes, absolutely, that's right. Well, Jed, 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:44.200 I just want to let you I just want to 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.960 let you guys know that you know, with the absurdity 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.840 of this, uh, the safeties that we've been signing of 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.680 course you know my position on them. I have decided 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.040 to commit myself to working out and I'm going to 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.680 try out for the Cowboys at safety. So there you go. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.400 I love that we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna put 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.600 that out there. I mean, I I instead of fussing 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.839 about it, and we're gonna do something about it. So 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.640 that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get out and 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.239 I'll be in my yard. I only have ten yards 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.480 of sprint sprint space back there, so I'm gonna be 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.119 in the backyard doing ten yards sprints. I'll be getting 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.040 ready for you. I can probably set you up with 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.200 one of those one year veteran exception deals, so your 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.840 only count nine hundred and eighty seven thousand, five hundred 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.920 dollars against the salary cap, okay, because that's all these 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.600 guys that we're getting and you only get one year exactly. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.280 I saw. I saw the parade. I saw the parade, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.240 last week's bags of signings. I saw the guys, and 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.560 I gotta say, they look they look older than me, man. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.080 I mean, some of those guys are just some old 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.880 looking dudes. Man. I can't I couldn't have grown up 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.840 in this area. These are some of the toughest looking 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.320 guys I think I've ever seen. I don't even think 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.280 they're even out of their thirties, and they're looking like this. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.320 But you know, when you when you talk about the 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.040 gaping hole, Yeah, that that secondary is something I'm still 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.559 concerned about. When you're talking about bringing back Anthony Brown 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:09.080 and guys like that. My concern with young defensive backs 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.680 and they can't be they can't keep playing young if 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.480 you keep playing all these games. I remember in eighty 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.200 one Madden said about us in our secondary, we want 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.080 Thurm and Stieves yet, but our young secondary. He said, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.400 you know, by the time you get into the playoffs, 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.600 there are no more rookies. You know, you should have 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.040 that experience. So I'm looking for the Cowboys secondary to 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:34.439 show me some experience. The thing that frustrates us so 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.680 much by watching our secondary is that we don't make 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.880 heads up plays, you know, and that that concerns me. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.760 We don't show the experience that we should have after 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.679 playing all of these games that we've been playing, not 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.079 just in one season, but over two or three seasons. 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.920 I would hope that they would show some type of experience, 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.199 and sometimes the way we did back in the day 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.319 and the way most good secondaries do it. You start 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.480 to play the team, okay, and I play your technique, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.920 necessarily you play the team, and you start to anticipate 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.360 what they're doing. We just in our secondary, I just 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.400 don't see, when I say playmakers, guys that are heads 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.600 up enough to sniff out of play and then make 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.280 that play. I would just love to see more of that. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.720 And in that regard, I don't give a damn who 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.800 we signed as long as they can make these plays. Now, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.240 these guys that we just signed, they have experience, so 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.240 hopefully with that experience they can sniff out a few 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:36.000 plays and be able to make a difference in our secondary. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:41.959 Just remember, because he had seven interceptions in one season, yep, 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:46.920 and somebody and Mickey Well I had I had to 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.400 correct somebody on that because they said those seven interceptions 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.280 are more interceptions than any Cowboy player had since Michael 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:58.880 Downs in nineteen eighty three. I oh, no, eighty four 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.079 And I said, no, oh, I think some guy named 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:07.439 Walls had nine and eighty five. Okay, that's true. How 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.720 do they forget about me? Spas? I don't know I 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.760 don't know what kind of listing. Oh my god, man, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.160 you know you guys, you guys should give me more 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.440 shout outs on whatever you do, because obviously I am 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.400 fading in everyone's memory. So thank God for this show. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.640 I can bring it back up. Well, no, thank you 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.240 for the show, because I think we spoke about that 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.760 and I remembered I said, no, I think Everson had 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:39.000 nine one crazy, I don't remember. I love Michael Downs, 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.280 but I don't remember any Michael Downs interceptions. I remember 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:47.440 every single one of Everson Walls seven interceptions of this career. Hey, 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.880 I gotta say, in fairness to Mike, he saved my 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.320 ass many times. So uh yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.199 have to differ with you on that one, Bill because 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.720 Mike might never forget me on that one. That's what 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.720 the boys need to do. They need to get local 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:06.520 guys like Everson Walls out of high school and Michael Downs. Yeah, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.800 we knew the culture coming in. We knew Tom Langer 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.000 didn't play, We knew we were going to have to 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.520 work hard, and we knew our secondary already sucked. So 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.800 we came in ready to play. We came in ready 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.120 to go. And Charlie Waters like, come all in here, 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.480 young fellow. You could do all the work and I 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.200 can sit back here on my one leg and just 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.040 have a good time and play it out. That's just 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.559 what happened, you know. The bottom line? Yeah ahead, I'm 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.960 gonna say. The bottom line on these safeties though, is 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.240 you know they're basically signing wall to one year deals, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.719 so it doesn't preclude them from drafting a guy uh, 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:44.280 you know, second third, fourth round, uh to go along 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.840 with Donovan Wilson. I saw where demonte Kaz. Is that 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.440 how I say it? Bill, Yes, that's how you say it. 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.600 I don't know if it's right or not right, Caz case, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.360 I don't know. Anyway, he basically signed a one year 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.839 deal for the veteran exception, so that kind of tells 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.200 you what kind of market value he may not have had. 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:13.000 So his cap hit for this year is only nine 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.880 hundred and eighty seven thousand, five hundred dollars that I 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.319 was going to give Everson. So with the veteran exception, 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:23.640 you get a you get a minimum signing bonus which 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.120 is one hundred and thirty seven thousand and five hundred 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.640 and then basically it's a one year, one point two 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:34.960 seven million dollars deal, so very similar to those other 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:40.240 offensive line I mean defensive lineman. They signed offensive lineman too, 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.400 by the way, all these one year deals that they've 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.800 been signing, and Bill I also saw and expect it's 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.959 less money than less money than those guys early. Yeah, 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.640 those were those were four and five hundred thousand dollars 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.360 signing bonuses and this was just a two hundred thousand 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:01.200 dollars signing bonus per Kaze and in fact mentioned market value. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.959 It turns out Xavier Woods had a better market value 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.960 than demonte Kazi did because he signed for basically what 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.160 the Cowboys were given these other guys, which was a 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.760 base of one point seven five million with incentives up 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:18.160 to two point two five with Minnesota over the weekend. Yeah, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.120 because his signing, they at least gave him a signing 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.480 bonus of five hundred thousand with a base of one 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:27.000 point two five So his cap hit is one point 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.680 seven five for this year. So to me, that tells 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.120 me that he didn't price himself out of the Cowboys market. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.679 They just decided to go ahead and move on. And 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.000 if you look at all these other contracts, they signed 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:47.080 guys to Terrell? Is it Terrell? Terrell Basham had the 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:51.120 most lucrative deal. If lucrative is two years, five point 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:56.880 five million, So again that's not an extreme amount when 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.280 his base salary is two point five million for this 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.240 year and he has three point seven five million guaranteed. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:08.000 So again that's lucrative as far as I'm concerned. Yes, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.760 but what you see going around the league right now, 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.480 but this is but ever since, right it's a lot 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.800 of one year deals and everybody's kind of hoping for 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.400 a prove it deal that they can come in and 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.440 have a good year and then get a bigger contract 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:28.800 when the salary cap goes back up next year. I 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.040 do recall when I went to the Giants from the Cowboys. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.000 Obviously I was one of the higher paid players on 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.040 the Cowboys before they got rid of me, and then 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.200 when I signed with the Giants, now you're like starting 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.200 all over. I do recall coming in with a two 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.800 year deal. I think you're like half a meal apiece. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:51.000 And that wasn't bad back then, but it wasn't anything 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.320 that you could, you know, really brag about, especially coming 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.000 off the career that I had had, So it made 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.680 me by signing that short term deal. I was gonna 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.800 be hungry anyway, but you definitely understand the urgency of 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.040 the situation because if you don't play well, if you 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.840 don't practice well in training camp, then they really had 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:12.960 invested that much in you, so you can be out 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.480 of that, you know, And so I wanted to make 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.600 sure that I made. You have to make a quick impression. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.600 I was a veteran, so they were looking forward to 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.760 me making plays. But if you're one of the younger 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.880 guys out there trying to sign a one year deal 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:30.040 like that, you better come in making smoke happen from 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.600 day one. That needs to be your incentive. So to 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.640 put that money into perspective. In eighty six, when the 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:43.360 Cowboys the usfl folded in, the Cowboys signed Herschel Walker. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.080 It was basically a one million dollars a year deal 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.360 and that was considered huge, right. And I remember when 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.760 Tony Dorset reported to training camp and somebody said, well, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.480 what do you think of herschel getting a million dollars? 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:06.320 And he goes, I feel like a million dollar man. Hint, hint. 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:11.320 He wanted he wanted to get his but that was 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.760 that was that was that was considering that was considered 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.080 very controversial as well as it was bringing in a 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.280 guy like Hersha Walker when you already have a future 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.280 Hall of Famer in your in your backfield, that's when 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.680 you knew things were going off the rails over Valley Rent. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.560 Getting back to my point about the gaping hole at 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:40.360 at cornerback, I think it's clear right now, it's clear 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.360 that the Cowboys are taking a cornerback in either the 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:47.080 first or second round of this draft. Uh do you 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:51.080 think they're fine? Though, Mickey? As far as any any 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:56.800 more veteran guys at cornerback before the draft, you know, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:01.080 I think it would have to be another very inexpensive 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:05.240 one year deal on somebody. If that guy is out there, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.199 you know, they still have Rashard Robinson, right, and you 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.680 know he's got a little bit of experience. I don't know. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.480 You know, at times he played well and then towards 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.680 the end he didn't play very well. So I don't 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.440 know if they look at him as a corner And 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.680 the same thing with c J. Goodwin. You know, he's 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:28.000 a special teams guy, and you know he's a guy 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.439 that's just going to count one point six million against 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.119 the cap. They signed him to a three year a 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.320 three year deal and gave him an eight hundred thousand 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:41.320 dollars signing bonus. So but again, how about Maurice Kennedy 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.240 And they have his right opted out? He was signed 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.960 last year. Yeah, he was signed last offseason. He opted 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.080 out right and all those contracts carry over to this 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.320 year and so technically he's still on the roster. But 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:01.000 I haven't heard anything about But they haven't released no, no, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:12.240 they Yeah. Experience think the biggest thing is you want 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:16.160 you want to go into the draft having all your 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:20.200 positions filled where you don't have to draft for need. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.439 You have priorities, but you can go out and you 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.000 can Basically, I think the best philosophy through free agency 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.160 is you do enough where you could actually go out 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.280 and play a game on draft day where you don't 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.640 have to fill in the desperate need. I would say 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.679 that Cowboys have a pretty desperate need UH in the 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.680 secondary to add talent back there, but they don't have 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:48.680 to UH in the first or second round do that. UM. 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:53.080 And there's other veteran guys out there, uh in veteran 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.439 cornerbacks that are out there in free agency too. That 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.320 will probably still be out there even after the draft 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.680 and see how it shakes out. Yeah, then after where 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:05.920 your draft at France goes down. Right, So well, you 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.600 talked about you talked about Robinson's facts. That's a good one. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.879 This guy's he played cornerback in college. Correct, Yes, he 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:18.520 did play corn cornerback. Tall. I know people, he's not that. 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.239 He's a little bit tall for a cornerback. You know 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.160 the way they have coming out of college these days. 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.720 But you know, when you look at somebody who's had 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.880 one year experience, you expect them to come in the 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.080 next year and you know, after having a few games 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.320 under their belt to be able to improve. I have 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.879 played with young players. I came in playing with young players. 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.600 Was that I was that young player. Initially, I'm sure 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.280 Charlie Waters was very concerned about who was coming in 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.800 when they brought it in, Michael Downs. But this guy, 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.600 you know, came in and did what Michael Downs did. 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.720 Even though Bill doesn't remember any of his plays. Michael Downs, 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:59.000 actually he actually played had a pretty good career. Uh 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.000 And even when I'm w he did. Even when I 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.520 went to the Giants, we had two young safeties that 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.600 we had to deal with, and that was Greg Jackson 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.520 and Myron Guiden, and those two guys stepped up because 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:12.480 you had two cornerbacks that had a little bit of 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:17.680 experience in myself and Mark Collins. So you have to 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.760 look forward to them developing, don't. We don't We have 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.399 to look forward to them making plays. I knew I 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.600 was disappointed about Brown and talked about how they don't 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.920 really they need to use their games and that game 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:35.000 experience to get better. Someone that they have signed the 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.560 younger guys, they have to show improvement. They have to 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.879 show development. Hopefully Trayvon can show that this offseason. This 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:47.880 train account. But as you say, we go into a draft, yeah, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.719 we might need to draft a corner but I still 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.840 want what I signed and what I paid for in 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:58.280 previous years to show me some type of development. Either 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.200 they bring it out themselves. You have to have coaches 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:03.680 that are able to show them the era of their 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:07.600 ways and make them improve. I just I have seen 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.359 players come here and who have been stagnant in their development. 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:13.840 If you don't come in ready to play, that's great, 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:18.600 but you have to show me improvement and development. I 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.080 want to see that in our young guys. And we 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.040 need to hear a break. But we also need to 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.480 make the distinction that there are two Robinson's in that 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:32.000 Cowboys secondary. Of course, Richard Robinson, who started some games 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.880 at cornerback last year. I believe it was three games. Now, 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:38.320 he was a fourth round pick back not of the 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.640 Cowboys of San Francisco back in twenty sixteen, so he's 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.600 a more veteran guy. And then the guy you're talking about, 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:48.200 Everson Reggie Robinson, who was the Cowboys fourth round pick 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.560 last year and didn't get much playing time and was 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:56.639 actually the previous regime. And as far as the defensive 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:00.919 coaches are concerned, we're looking at him at safe and 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.880 so it'll be interesting to see what Joe Witt Junior, 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:09.399 the secondary coach, and Dan Quinn view Reggie Robinson, whether 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.920 he works at safety or at cornerback, and of course 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.080 we won't know that probably until after the draft and 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.320 we get into OTAs and so forth. All Right, there's 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:21.120 so much going on. Alabama is having another Pro day 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:26.280 as we speak, and their quarterback Mac Jones is throwing again, 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.399 and the forty Niner brain trust is once again there 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:34.560 watching Mac Jones. 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