1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I don't know if 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: my stuff one never told you protection by Heart Radio 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: and we are thrilled. I am thrilled. I am so 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: thrilled to launch a new segment. I'm sure it's surprised 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: to no one who's seen the title, but the Last 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: of Us show has premiered on HBO X not currently 7 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: a sponsor. But if you know me, you know I'm 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: a huge fan. Yes, a huge fan is an understatement. 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Like this is you just 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: go ahead and say you are an expert of the 11 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Last of Us? I think that's it. Yes, yes, And 12 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: originally we were going to just make this kind of 13 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: like my check in on how we we are enjoying 14 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: it or what we're loving about it or not loving 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: about it as a happy hour, and we recorded an 16 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: original intro for that, but Savantha, who is the best, 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: most supportive co host, was like, I think you should. 18 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: We should do a reaction to every episode and it 19 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: should be its own thing and you didn't have to 20 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: twist my arm like let's in. You'll hear in the 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: in the prerecorded intro where we talk about the fact 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: that yes, I think we need to do a recap. 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: We need to have this conversation. It is riddled with 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: amazing feminists and women characters and film characters that I 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: think we should talk about anyway. Yes, it's a mistake 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: that HBO I Heart did not ask Anny to be 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: a part of the podcast to begin with, So I'm 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: going to correct that course and do it ourselves. That's 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: what I said. Yes, and I am so happy, like 30 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: just even doing this rerecord, I'm getting excited of the 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: intro of the intro. Everyone west the level we're talking about, 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: and we are going to talk about that more. I 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: also wanted to clarify there are going to be spoilers 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: for the episodes we're talking about, but they're always going 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: to come out obviously after the episode has aired. I'm 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: Samantha is doing a very good job of raiding me 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: in so I don't spoil the entire show. As a team, 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: we've got this. Yes, Yes, because Christina, super producer Christina 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: is watching it, and I don't want to ruin it 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: for her. I don't want to ruin it for people 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: who have miraculously uh in one way or another, avoided 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: the spoilers of this very show where I've talked about 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: this game and these games so so many times. There 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: will be spoilers for the episode we are talking about, 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: which will be labeled and and ominous hints. I will 46 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: say there are some mm hmmm hints that was to come. 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: But I also think like basically those hints are it's 48 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: grim like, it's an apocalyose show and the creators are 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: the creators of Chernobyl and if you know anything about that, 50 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: it was tragic and sad and all. Yes. Yeah, so 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: that's about where we are. We just want to clarify, 52 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: clarify that I'm so excited to do this, and I 53 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: hope a bunch of you listeners join us along their eye, 54 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: and I hope that you are enjoying it, will enjoy it. 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, so there will be nine of these episodes. 56 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: They're going to come out on Saturdays so that you 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: can easily search for them, and they're kind of their 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: own thing and for a couple as long as the 59 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: show is airing, which is nine episodes, I believe this 60 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: season finale is um well, I'm assuming season finale, not 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: series finale, but that is March twelve. Uh, and so 62 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: during that time, some of my happy Hours will be 63 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: replaced with classics. We're just doing a little a little 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: schedule switch. Yeah. Yeah, and we might switch out the 65 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: name of our sex in the city segments, which also 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: we should have separated into its own thing and HBO 67 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: should have paid us more. But whatever, a great Uh. 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: They might be called through back Thursdays, but it's the 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: same thing, and the happy Hour will be back. Everybody. 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: This is it's a temporary thing, but we had to 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: take the opportunity and of it and we're gonna yes. 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: So all that being said, you might hear some things 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: that are very reminiscent of our happy our segments, because 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: that's what it was originally. But yeah, let us get 75 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: into it. So what are you sitting on, Samantha Um 76 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 1: confession time, both of us were talking about the fact 77 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: that last night was not a good night when it 78 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: comes to being rested. I don't know if it was 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: just an ancy night, or things were happening, or maybe 80 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: if we're just excited about life whatever want not. So 81 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: I did not get a lot of sleep. Uh. And 82 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: we have a pretty long day of recording as we 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: do again behind the carton, as we do those in chunks. Uh. 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: So I'm keeping it with my caffeinated black tea, Yes 85 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: I am, And that's how we're leaving it that you 86 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: Trader Joe's not a sponsor for making this winter wake up, 87 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: which is kind of chai ish I think flavor. So yes, 88 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: I'm keeping with the spicy emty. It is cold and 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: dreary and rainy right now, so it just felt fitting. Yeah, yeah, 90 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: And I mean another peak behind the curtains is last 91 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: week we had some pretty severe weather. I know a 92 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: lot of people did, and we hope that you're all okay, um, 93 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: But we were actually recording a different happy hour that 94 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: was not about the Last of Us, and we had 95 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: to stop because I thought I heard a tornado outside 96 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: my uh and I had made a Dark and Stormy 97 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: because of the weather, and so I have made another 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: very modified not really a Dark and Stormy, but the 99 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: closest I can make it with the ingredients that I have, UM, 100 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: which I think is very fitting for both the weather 101 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: and the Last of Us, Because as we've talked about, 102 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this. I feel like whiskey is the 103 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: like I'm traumatized anti hero go to drink, they always 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: go for whiskey. And Joel, who is the main character 105 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: of the first Last of Us, is no exception, and 106 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: we saw him drink quite a lot of whiskey. Only 107 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: exceptions to that would be if they're like Russian, that's 108 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: the bad guy drink and then um, I feel like 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: Asian people have a different it's not whiskey, it's different 110 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: something like the bad guys. They definitely don't drink. And 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about I'm thinking about all the K dramas. 112 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: They don't drink, like they're supposed to be really disciplined, 113 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: unless they were like a psychopath bad guy, then they may, 114 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: which is hilarious because that's K drama K actions. They're 115 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: very extreme. That's what I'm thinking about. Yes, there is 116 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: a variation, and like, if we ever get out of 117 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: the also drink responsibly if you choose to do so. Um, yes, 118 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: if we ever get out of Terminus the fiction, the 119 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: ongoing monthly fiction that we're reading, my other like very 120 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: close to my heart story I wrote she has. I 121 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: wanted to make it purposefully like not one of those 122 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: classic drinks. So her name is Jan and she drinks 123 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: gin and people always make fun of her because she 124 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: drinks gin and her name is Gin and she's not 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: somebody who likes being made fun of. Um, but I 126 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: like to mix it all the nose. Okay, I thought 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: it was a fun, little little like Yes, so I 128 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: don't think it's any surprise to anyone. I was so 129 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: so excited about the Last of Us. Again, I cannot 130 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: emphasize enough they are not a sponsor. Yes, and she's 131 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: very upset about this, by the way. I'm just just 132 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: think it's a missed opportunity. It really is that they 133 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: just don't understand how many times Okay, I need to 134 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: put my caveat here. Ay, I have the reason, I 135 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: know as much as I do, I still like a 136 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: blacked out blaited outs on so many things because this 137 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: is a whole traumatic journey. Justin f why if you 138 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: are not ready for a traumatic journey, this might not 139 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: be the show for you. Um. I think it's appropriate 140 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: that the creators of Chernobyl is the one that's creating this, 141 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: just so you know. Um But I was introduced to 142 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: this game because any started playing it having arguments with 143 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: people about why it's the best. It's a lot of controversy, 144 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: And then she was adamant that when we were we 145 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: were in quarantine, and you know, if you've been listening 146 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: for a while, you know that any pretty much lift 147 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: with me on the weekend during quarantine because we did 148 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: not associate with anybody, and then we just stayed in house. 149 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: At one point in time, we went all went to 150 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: the beach together because we're like, yes, let's go do this. 151 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: And he brought her giant PlayStation and was like, gotten 152 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: my partner, who was an avid gamer as well. I 153 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: was like, play this because she just wanted to watch 154 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: what was happening and she had already played it how 155 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: many times at this point embarrassed say come on, truth, okay, 156 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: because but she wanted that perspective, and with that they 157 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: it was like watching a movie. And they went through 158 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: not only Last of Us, but Last of Us too 159 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: and the DLC, which left just relearned again. But it 160 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: was such a thing that not only did they do this, 161 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: and he went back home and then got all her 162 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: friends to watch, and they are now all caught up 163 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: in this moment, like the excitement has been building. When 164 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: I tell you, Annie was so excited. I got text 165 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: the day before. I think I got a text a 166 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: week before the next day. The next day, the next day, 167 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: the next day, the day before, super excited. The day 168 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: she came in, we watched it together. She was so 169 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: excited all she could do was sit straight back on 170 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: the edge of her seat talking about what she expected. 171 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: Was was reathless and trying to explain how excited she is, 172 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: sending me all these random I don't know where text 173 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: about what she just read about the series, like when 174 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: I tell you it's a missed opportunity that Annie did 175 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: not get some kind of sponsorship, Hill is a missed opportunity. 176 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: But maybe they did it on purpose because they know 177 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: you love it so much you'll do it anyway. Probably 178 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: they got me begged. Oh yeah, it was. I was. 179 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: I felt like I could have floated away. It looked 180 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: like you were about to just watching you literally space out, 181 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: and I knew I was floating through your head. I 182 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: knew what was happening, but you kind of looked like 183 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: your head would kind of float, and then your body 184 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: was floating on the edge of the seat like you 185 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: were pushing forward and nothing was happening. It was like 186 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: five hours before the show was happening. He was just 187 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: sitting well because the reviews had come in and a 188 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: lot of you listen. It was actually contacted me about 189 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: it and thank you and send the articles about it. 190 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: Because video games are have a great history of being adapted, 191 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: like they're kind of notoriously not good, and they're adapted 192 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: to TV or movies. And this is so close to 193 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: my heart that when like the reviews started coming in, 194 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: they were so good. It's like it was unleashed something 195 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: in me that I've been trying to keep tame, where 196 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know that I can be 197 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: excited about this because they're usually bad. Then what will 198 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: I do? Because I've talked about how much I love 199 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: it and how good it is, and then that happened, 200 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: and then everyone else was getting excited, and it's like, 201 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: I think a week before something unleashed. That's what I'm saying. 202 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: The week before is when all of the messages started coming. 203 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: We would have every now and then talking about it, 204 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: and then the reviews are coming in and all of 205 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: them were just glowing, and you were having every minute. 206 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: We saw some trailers and the trailers were so on 207 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: point with the game. You were freaking out and I 208 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: loved it. And I want to say this even though 209 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: it is all joking. From my end, it is contagious. Well, 210 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: and he was so excited it makes other people really excited, 211 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: Like this is one of those things when I'm like, man, 212 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: I wish I had a hobby here or excited about something, 213 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: because that's an incredible feeling. Like I love seeing you 214 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: do this, and it is it's a joy to be around, 215 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: even though the actual story is quite traumatic, and I think, 216 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm really glad I know what's going to happen. I'm 217 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: really glad I know the whole story because I don't 218 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: think I could handle this show if I wasn't already prepared. Um, 219 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: all of that to say is like, yeah, I know 220 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: you're super excited, and I know you sometimes get embarrassed 221 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: because you get so super excited, but you shouldn't because 222 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: I think it's such an amazing thing that you love 223 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: something in that depth of feeling that you feel such 224 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: a personal connection is beautiful when something is created like that. 225 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's what the writers and creators want, 226 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: is too for you to feel that depth. Of course, 227 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: if it controls your life, that's a whole different conversation. Right, 228 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: what you are doing and what I see you doing 229 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: is exciting and it's contagious, and that's why you got 230 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: probably a hundred and fifty thousand messages. Yeah, I'm really 231 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: glad to hear you say that, because I I do 232 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: get self conscious about it. Um. And I actually one 233 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: of the friends who hung out with us, Marissa, who's 234 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: been on the show and who was a great friend 235 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: of ours and listens and thank you. We appreciate you. 236 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: The next day I text her. I was like, I'm 237 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: so sorry because she was sitting next to me. I 238 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: was like, I'm so sorry. I was trying to control 239 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: my excitement, but I know it was like a lot. 240 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: I was getting so like because I kept like grabbing 241 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: her arm. Big is that? And she was like, are 242 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: you kidding? Like let it fly? I think you found 243 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: the best person to do that with. She was on 244 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: that level too, Yeah, Like she's not on that level 245 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: of excitement of the show, but on that level of 246 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: connecting with you, connecting with the show. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. 247 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this too, because I am somebody 248 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: who I love watching TV shows with friends. I love 249 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: sharing entertainment with friends, and that's like my love language. Um. 250 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: But I have sort of built myself into a trap 251 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: with this one, because everyone knows I love The Last 252 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: of Us and so everyone and I was like, yeah, 253 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: go Crime River. You have friends, I know. But everyone 254 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: was like, why did you not watch it with me? 255 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: Why can't we watch it again? I want to be 256 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: the first time you see it. And I'm like, I 257 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: cannot have fifty people in the viewing party for the 258 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: last I'm so sorry because I actually like, I like 259 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: a small group. This is the thing that's really important 260 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: to me. I want everybody to watch it. I'll watch 261 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: it with you again. I'll be there, but I can't 262 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: be everywhere at once. This is where I get the brag. 263 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: I have to be there. Yeah, well you did. You 264 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: were very kind and supported me and my love of it, 265 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: and you did watch Because the game is like fifteen 266 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: hours long the first and I will say to think, um, 267 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: I've forgotten quite a bit of it because part of 268 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: the game was so long. I just fell asleep in 269 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: the middle of some of it. Well, you're in for 270 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: a good time, and I do. So we're like, we 271 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: said we're probably gonna do a couple of these. Um, 272 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: and if you're listening to this and you're like, this 273 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: doesn't feel very feminist. I promise I have I have 274 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: thoughts about things that relate to feminism. Um. We've also 275 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: done several episodes in the past about the Last of Us, 276 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: the Last of Us to Revival Horror, and in fact, 277 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: old host of the show Christin Caroline. They knew I 278 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: was a gamer, and they asked me once like, who 279 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: is a character in video games? Who was a woman? 280 00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: Our girl? Um, who you think is like really innovative 281 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: of or connected with a lot of people. I said, Ellie. 282 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: It's Ellie and that the game came out in and 283 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: she felt very new then. Um, and uh oh sen 284 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: years old. Yeah, I didn't. I don't think I knew that. Yes, 285 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: it came out, Yes, and if you noticed in the show, 286 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: I promise I'm going to try not to do this 287 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: so much. But in the show they they said it 288 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: the kind of like setting of the scene when all 289 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: the sad stuff in the beginning happens, when the outbreak happens, 290 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: it's in twenty it's in two thousand three, And I 291 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: think that's so that the show is set like currently 292 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: in our modern year. But they did shift the date 293 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: because in the original game, the outbreak day is so 294 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: they pushed it back by ten years. These are all 295 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: the facts I was trying to hold in while we 296 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: were watching it. No, but this is what you need 297 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: to share. So you need I don't know why you 298 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: just said I won't do too many of these. You 299 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: need to do more of these because this is what 300 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: you do. What are you talking about? Come on, so 301 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: let's get into this so you know if you don't 302 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: for however, you've avoided it and you don't know. The 303 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: Last Us is a PlayStation game that came out. It 304 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: is one of the most highly rewarded games of all time. 305 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: It is pretty much like a movie. And when it 306 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: came out it was a lot of the most popular 307 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: games were open world games. Um so those are games 308 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: where you can do whatever you want. You can go 309 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: explore and you can make choices with your character that 310 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: affect the ending or affect what happens. The Last of 311 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: Us is very much like a movie. You do make 312 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: choices as a character, but they're not going to change 313 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: the story as a whole. It's not going to change 314 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: the ending. And that was one of the biggest critiques 315 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: of it. Like most people, I loved it. It was 316 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: highly praised that most people who tell me they didn't 317 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: like it is because it's like a movie and they 318 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: can't change the ending even though they want to. But 319 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: it was really interesting reading that um and I swear 320 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't normally do this. I bet it sounds so unbelievable, 321 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: but I actually don't normally read a bunch of like 322 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: interviews and stuff because it makes me nervous. But the 323 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: interviews of how they adapted this and the process of 324 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: how they did it, we're fascinating because the creator said, like, 325 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: the reason I did that was Joel wouldn't do that. 326 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Joel wouldn't that's like not his story, and he used 327 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: the character and this is how it plays out, and 328 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of a lot of refuse have said. That's 329 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: like the definition of the tragedy is you can't stop it. 330 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: It's like you see it unfolding and it's too bad. 331 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: But it is so much like a movie already that 332 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: when I was watching it last night, I watched it 333 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: like six times already. I watched it this morning. It's 334 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: it's already there like in the game. So much of 335 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: it is, Oh, this is exactly like the game. And 336 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: I never want anything to be beholden to do something 337 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: like that because they are different mediums um the game 338 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: and the movie, and in fact, the creators stepped away 339 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: from the movie the show because it is different when 340 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: a person can control the camera and the viewpoint versus 341 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: like you the director picking the shot. But it was like, 342 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: are all there like the imagery. I was like, there's 343 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: the burning house and there's the guitar. You know, I 344 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: saw the guitar. Oh my gosh, so that's a significance. 345 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: Might not know it yet, Yes, it is the guitar. Well, 346 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: they already introduced stuff from the second one, which you know, 347 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: who knows if they'll ever make the sequel. But there 348 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: was the there's the guitar. There's a bunch of little 349 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: things they did. I was like, okay, okay, but it's 350 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: the basis. Yeah, it's basically like um as be outbreak. 351 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: It's very frightening, like the setting setting up scene they 352 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: hand with the two scientists and the sixties who were like, actually, 353 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: we should really be afraid of this phone goal thing. 354 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: What if the temperature goes up and then they can 355 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: take us over who gave Mitchell? And there's already all 356 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: these theories I love, like you have sent me some 357 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: your partner sent me sub about like where did it start? 358 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: How did it come from? And super exciting but basically 359 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: zombie outbreak not good billions of people. Um. And the 360 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: opening scene is where you meet Joel and his daughter 361 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: Sarah and it's his birthday and everything everything goes so 362 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: so wrong. And as you texted me and some of 363 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: these random text we'd exchange with each other. Nico Parker, 364 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: who plays Sarah, Um, it looks exactly like they Newton 365 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: her mom and she was definitely like the breakout, like 366 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: so many people are praising her and they should have been. 367 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: She did an amazing job. Uh And and that I loved. 368 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: One of the things that is tricky about adapting a 369 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: video game is a lot of times there's a pressure 370 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: to do the shots. Like Doom is sort of an 371 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: infamous example where all of a sudden there's like a 372 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: first person shooter shot that doesn't work the whole thing, 373 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: but that part where Tommy and Joel and Sarah driving 374 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: away and you're seeing all these signs of like the 375 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: world is ending, these planes are crashing, this house is 376 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: on fire. Their zombies that shot the way it is 377 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: in the game where it's sort of like you're looking 378 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: out the windshield, and I just thought it was so effective. 379 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: It looked so cool, but it was also kind of 380 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: you you could never tell what would be around the 381 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: corner with that shot. Oh I loved it. Oh my gosh, 382 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm being so excited. I did already like plot out 383 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: where I think every episode is going to go, and 384 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: every episode has a tragedy in it, so you know, 385 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's not. It's a very sad tale 386 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk about this more at the end, 387 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: but I'm very interested and excited to see how people 388 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: feel about the ending of it. So there are a 389 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: couple of things I wanted to bring out. One of 390 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: them is okay. First of all, the clickers, who you 391 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: only hear at the end. The clickers are very creepy zombies. Everybody, Um, 392 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait. But they're voiced by the same actors 393 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: they used the game. Yeah, and I heard a couple 394 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: of them. Actually, may a couple of the clickers maybe them, 395 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: Like yes, yes, I think so. I think so. For 396 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: anyone who's listening and you're like, what are you talking about? 397 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: I cannot wait for you. Um. But the character Marlene, 398 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 1: who is coming up on Fictional Women Around the World. 399 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: Is one of my favorite characters and is played by 400 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: the original voice actor Merle Dandridge. Amazing looks just like her, 401 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: so good. Um. She she's the Leader of the Fireflies. 402 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: There were a couple of times during the show where 403 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder what it's like if you 404 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: go into this and you have no idea what they're 405 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: talking about. But the Fireflies are kind of like fighting 406 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: against the government entities that run the quarantine zones and 407 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: they're trying to find some way to get back to 408 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 1: the world. That it was some way to get back 409 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: to democracy, all of those things. So like when in 410 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: the Darkness militia out started militia Yes, Um, so the 411 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: yeah they're saying is look for the light. And throughout 412 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: that episode you see instances of skirmishes with the military 413 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: entity which is FEDRA and FEDRAC controls like the quarantine zones. 414 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: They control your education. Uh, they control your food, they 415 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: control your jobs, that whole thing. So she used the 416 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: Leader of the Fireflies in Boston and uh, this is 417 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: something I've found really interesting and late media and or 418 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: was a good example as well the New Star Wars show. 419 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: She's the leader of this thing, and it's clear she 420 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: has a lot of really tough decisions. So at one 421 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: point she says rebellions take time. At another point she 422 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: says Tommy is just one man, implying like we have 423 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: to sacrifice him or we have to put our you know, 424 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: resources where we can um And then at the end 425 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: of the episode, she makes this deal with Joel, who 426 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: they don't have a good relationship. Joel is kind of 427 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: a smuggler, traumatize about what happened in the beginning to 428 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: his daughter, just like a real shut off individual. Uh, 429 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: and tests who we'll be talking about a second, to 430 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: transport Ellie, Uh, this young fourteen year old girl across 431 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: the country. And that moment was so tough when you 432 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: know how it ends, because she's like, please, don't get up, 433 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm trusting you, and you're like, all right, everybody's going 434 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: to little angels pull back an pullet so far ahead. 435 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: But it was just like every time, I'm like, oh, 436 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: what a yeah. But I don't know, I think we 437 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: should come back and talk about that because I feel 438 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: like we've seen a lot of instances of these women 439 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: characters who are the leaders. I think you could even 440 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: make the argument Leia in some ways but are like 441 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: making these really tough decisions. And then a lot of 442 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: the like men in their life are kind of like 443 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: getting angry with them or judging them, are like you're 444 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: being cold or whatever it is, which is not like 445 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: it's this whole story. I'm just going to tell you 446 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: because the reviews kept cracking me up. This whole story 447 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: is complicated. There's no like one instance where you're like, oh, 448 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: that was the complete right choice. There's just isn't. It's 449 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: like a lot of it's complicated and nuanced and not pretty. 450 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not happy, right, So maybe we should 451 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: go ahead and tell you and then think we talked 452 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: about this before. You talked about about this before Deathly, 453 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: and we're talking about the actual game. This game makes you, uh, 454 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: choose lesser evils, and in that, many people hated this 455 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: game because of that. What most people want is a 456 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: hero and a villain, and this does not really have that. 457 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: You do have villains, but you don't really have heroes. 458 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: That's not really a thing, I don't don't think. So 459 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: you know the conversation of anti heroes, and we've talked 460 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: about that before. Um, really does apply for the show. 461 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: Of course, we're anticipating some changes and what people are 462 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: going to do with characters and what people are gonna 463 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: do just because they love the actors who are portraying 464 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: these characters. So that's that's a bias in itself. I 465 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: think that's going to be interesting to see, especially people's reaction, 466 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: because a good show draws you in with that character, 467 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: and then those biases can make or break how you 468 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: feel about the show. Uh, And I think that's interesting 469 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: to know. So for sure, the Last of Us is 470 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: one of those and in the game because it's a 471 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: little different as a person has never played it versus 472 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: the person who has, because you are actually in their shoes. 473 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: You are making these decisions instead of watching someone else 474 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: make a decision and feeling removed from it. Yeah, and 475 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: that's one of the things I'm very curious about, especially 476 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: if they do the second one, because it does force 477 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: you to even if you don't want to connect with 478 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: this person that you're controlling. And and that's one of 479 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: the beauty I think of video games. A good video 480 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: game is you just get pulled in and you're like, 481 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: I didn't like Maybe your mind will change or whatever, 482 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: and you'll you'll feel something for them even if they're bad, 483 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: and even if you don't agree with them, like and 484 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: yeah again like good and batter so like simplistic terms 485 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: and in this conversation. And that was something that I 486 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: kept coming across in reviews because most interviews I read 487 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: they've never played the game, which I loved. I loved 488 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: how they described it as like being repeatedly punched in 489 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: the heart. I'm like, yeah, but they would say, like, 490 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, one, is this what's happening? And that we 491 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: didn't know these kind of stories were being told in 492 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: video games, and yes they are, um, but to like 493 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: there's no easy answers um and they were curious how 494 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: audiences were going to react to that. And I am 495 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: also curious. I do want to mention test real quickly 496 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: because tests in the game, she's like the partner of Joel. 497 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: I feel like they gave her more of a leadership 498 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: role in the show than she has in the game, 499 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: or at least from what you see, because she says 500 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: like he answers to me about Joel, So I'm curious. 501 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious about that. But she's also pretty hardened, like 502 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: seeing some the rational one. This is the thing about 503 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: the game, and I was going to come back to 504 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: both she and Marlene are the rational ones. They have 505 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: to pick and choose. So they set aside what they 506 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: want or what they're afraid of, or if they're angry 507 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: or not, and then go to this is the most 508 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: feasible way to do this without people getting hurt. Let's 509 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: do it this way. Just talk to me. I got 510 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: you because spoiler. And again at the very beginning, we 511 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: see all the people who have dealt with Joe at 512 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: this time and point know that he's a violent, angry 513 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: man who has outbursts, and so you have her controlling that. 514 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: And then Marlene is controlling all of the fireflies, um 515 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: and even Ellie when we meet Ellie, because Ellie is 516 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: ready to like punch people in a leave um at 517 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: this point, stab people. We saw that. So it's very 518 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: different in that route that these two leaders women leaders 519 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: are the ones that's like, put your emotions aside. We 520 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: have to do what is best for today, for our people, 521 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: for us right, which I find fascinating because I think 522 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: they're judged more harshly. And this actually brings us to 523 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: my next point. And I'm gonna try not to like 524 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: spoil it too much. What I have, like talked about 525 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: this before in the show, because I've, in my opinion, 526 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: the ending of the first game, the way it's shot, 527 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: the character you're playing at that moment, because you don't 528 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: play Joel the whole time, UM to me suggest that 529 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: we need to question the morality or what what just happened? 530 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't think the ending is meant to be read 531 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: as a good thing. That was never the suggestion I got. 532 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: That was not how I felt like they were communicating 533 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: it with how they how they shot it and how 534 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: it ends. But what happens when fandom We've talked about 535 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: this before a lot with Star Wars, We've talked about 536 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: this a lot. What happens when fandom doesn't read it 537 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: the way I personally think it was intended. And you 538 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: can get into really murky grounds with that, because you know, 539 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: we all bring our own experiences and interpretations to art. 540 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: We all do. But I feel like it says a 541 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: lot about how people interacted with that ending, and I 542 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: think that's I'm really, really, really curious, um, how it's 543 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: going to play out in the show. I have my opinion, 544 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: and I told you what it is, and we're going 545 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: to check back in at the end and see if 546 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: I was right. Um, but like what happens when when 547 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: you present something in this one way and like your 548 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: message was this isn't a good thing, and people take 549 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: away no, it was. What does that mean? And I 550 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: think that says a lot about our society and it 551 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: does go back to how we judge I think how 552 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: we judgement and women, and like even going back to 553 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: the whole conversation we had about toxic masculinity and the Mandalorian, which, 554 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: by the way, the new trailer came out today, which 555 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: I know they did on purpose, but like being praised 556 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 1: for being violent in protection of an innocent especially like 557 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: a young girl or a woman, as you know, like 558 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: this masculine thing that we should get behind, whereas in 559 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: the second one that was enough the reaction at all 560 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: when it was women. So that's just something I'm sitting 561 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: on I'm thinking about. I'm very curious about how they're 562 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: going to do it, especially because they said they tried 563 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: to make Joel nicer in the show as opposed to 564 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: the game. We'll see how that plays out. Um. You know, 565 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: I also want to come back and I want to 566 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: talk about sad murder, dad trope, um, but that whole yeah, 567 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: like justifying these men's reactions versus women's. Um. So he's 568 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: Joel's kind of Yeah. This more like combative emotional one 569 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: where Marlene and Tests are trying to keep things running. Also, 570 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: I want to come back and talk about this whole 571 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: Daddy's a state of mind thing, which Paedro Pascal who 572 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: did an amazing job, so did Bella Ramsey. I think 573 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: I like already know the answer, but we need to 574 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: revisit like this, this attraction women have for that. Yeah. Yeah. 575 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: I also think that there's something happening here which I 576 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: kind of jokingly called the Han Solo syndrome, which is 577 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: when a character is supposed to be like I don't know, 578 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: like we're not supposed to think this guy is like 579 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: the best guy, but then everybody loves that guy and 580 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, and then let me go rewrite the 581 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 1: story of how Gredo shot first a million times, so 582 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: he's like a better guy. Um. This I don't know 583 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: if they're going to do that or not, but when 584 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: I read that they were making him nicer, I was 585 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: kind of like, huh, Okay, we'll see I don't know, 586 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: because the first episode I was like nicer said that, 587 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: like the reactions he had were more violent than it 588 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: was even in the game. Yeah, I mean some of 589 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: that is like I'm not a super violent player and 590 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 1: some people are. And that's another issue, is because I 591 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: was thinking about this where the ending I do believe 592 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: was meant to be. I've been very least ambiguous, but 593 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: you're still kind of playing this violent character who you 594 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: are connecting to because you're playing him. But for me, 595 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of like super violent player, but 596 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: some people are, and so I don't know. Maybe the 597 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: nicer part is just like for a certain type of 598 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: play We'll see. But yeah, I think like it's such 599 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: a well written story. There are certainly problematic aspects of it, 600 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: but it's such a like a well written story, and 601 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: so many of the reviews I kept seeing, we're like, 602 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, this is like a story about humanity and 603 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: connection and at the time where it's the survival is 604 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: like your whole thing and how does that look and 605 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: how can we as humans survive in this um? And 606 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: so there are happy moments. I know, I've been painting 607 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: a very bleak, very bleak thing. Right now. Zombie Apocalypse. Yeah, 608 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, got a good bleak. I know why you're 609 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: trying to add like there's definitely gonna be a party 610 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: in here. There's not, no, But there are some like 611 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: brief shining moments of joy. There are I'm looking forward to. 612 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: They're They're expanding on some stories, especially queer stories, that 613 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see in the show. Um. But yeah, 614 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the characters are so well written 615 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: and that you know that the fears I read in 616 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: the reviews I don't think are unfounded because it is 617 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: not a fun show. It's not an easy ending, but 618 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: I think that's like a sign of like a well 619 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: written story and characters. And I mean I also like 620 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: a very like straightforward, I don't have to cry and 621 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: everything episode. But like you know what I mean, I 622 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: think they did it very well. I'm very very excited. 623 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: It looked beautiful, it was beautifully acted, beautifually written, and 624 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: it felt like a it was it was like the game, 625 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: but in a way that didn't feel like they were 626 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: doing too much fan surface if that makes sense, right. Yeah, So, um, 627 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it definitely sets up 628 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: really well. Um, they did a great job in beginning it. 629 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of differences. We know that the spread 630 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: of the virus is different in the game than is 631 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: in the that is in the show, and some people 632 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: have already picked that apart. As a bystander, I'm like, why, 633 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: it's a disease, It's gonna happen, calm down. Um. But 634 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: on the other note, there was some theories about Flower. Yes, 635 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: so if you're watching, look for the details about how 636 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: and who gets infected and like what's being denied, and um, 637 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: I found that interesting as well. But and they found like, 638 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: when we first we're talking about the series happening, you're 639 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: so cautious. Yeah, and stayed very cynical to that. You're 640 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: like bad adaptation, adaptations have happened. There's a lot of 641 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: controversies around this game. I'm not gonna get excited. I'm 642 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: not gonna get excited. She did get excited. We're just 643 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna put that in. Um. But we were guessing about 644 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: who's going to play these characters, and we even like 645 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: did a whole setup of like who should play these characters. Um, 646 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Pedro Pascal was not on my list. 647 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: Bella Ramsey was not on my list, But then when 648 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: you come back and you're like, oh, wow, they did 649 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: an amazing job. Both of them have done a great 650 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: job in portraying this character, even the brother who plays Tommy. 651 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: They don't look anything alike, but they sound and act exactly. 652 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: I know this is acting, but you also know when 653 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: you have a picture in their mind and it doesn't fit, 654 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of shatters, shatters the dream and in the 655 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: fantasy of it. But it didn't. They did such a 656 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: good job. Even with the daughter Nico Parker. She is 657 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: an English actress, or I think she's English. I know her. 658 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: There's English, so I'm trying to imagine that that's the case. 659 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: Can't comes in and like she is not what we 660 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: saw in the game. But she did phenomenal and it 661 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't shatter that fantasy at all. She was Pedro Pascal's 662 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: daughter Sarah, who had suffered this tragedy. And I love 663 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: the fact that the difference in this game they did 664 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: a more and in the game they do see it 665 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: from her start point of view, but they lengthened her 666 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: story even bigger. It was gorgeous to see like it 667 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: was gorgeous, but it was still on point with the game, 668 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: so it didn't shatter anybody who had played the game 669 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: from their idea of what this should be. So I 670 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: think that was a brilliant beginning. Yeah, in that note. Yeah, 671 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: and they did really well with her because you learn 672 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: more about Sarah very very slowly. That you do learn 673 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: more about Sarah through the game, and she was very 674 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: smart and she loved museums and all that stuff. So 675 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: they put like all of those little cues of her 676 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: shirt was on point. The shirt was on point. Yeah, 677 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: that was one of the first things. I was like, 678 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: those are in the game. She's wearing the shark, so 679 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: they to replicate that did a phenomenal job. She was 680 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: just getting excited. I know we've been going to going 681 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: too well. That was like I'll close on this note, 682 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: like I I hope that it continues to be this way. Uh. 683 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: But I one of the reasons I was worried was 684 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: because we know game the gaming world is full of toxicity. 685 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: Uh and the last of us too. It was shocking, 686 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: um how much toxicity. The first one I've made the 687 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: point before, and I think is I would argue is true, 688 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: is because you're playing a male character who's protecting a 689 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: young girl that didn't come out as much UM, but 690 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: like Bella Ramsay has talked about getting like all these 691 00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: haters after after they were cast UM and so far, 692 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: I was expecting review bombing even though the first one 693 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: is still well liked. So far that hasn't happened. But 694 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm like still a little a little nervous, especially I 695 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: think episode three and some of you know what I'm 696 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: talking about. I think that's where we might see some things, 697 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: um in terms of like review bombing. But I just 698 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: I've been happy that that hasn't happened yet, but I 699 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: hate that that's like even a thing where I was like, 700 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: I'm I'm afraid to get excited about this thing that 701 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 1: I love because of these bad actors in this space. 702 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: Right And yeah, again we talked about that level and 703 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: you're not the only one, but the different content creators 704 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: not even involved in the game who said they liked 705 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: this game got hated on. Like it wasn't like incredible 706 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: the level of vitriol that came out of a character 707 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: or a change in character, changing perspective. Naughty Dog knew 708 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: what they are doing, kind of trolling those who already 709 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: would like trying to hate this game. They sure did. 710 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: Shar did well. Oh my gosh, I am so excited 711 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: now I kind of wait for the next one. Um, 712 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: I will be doing more of these. Hopefully you enjoy it, 713 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: whether you watch it or not, because I know some 714 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: of you have written instead. I've never played the game, 715 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: but I love talking about it and that makes me 716 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: really happy. So yes, look for more of these. I 717 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: promise one. We are not currently sponsored by the yet. Yeah, 718 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on, because I think in 719 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: the next one I'm gonna have a lot more to 720 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: say about Ellie because we didn't get too much of 721 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: Ellie in this one. No, we get a slight introduction 722 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: or attitude. Are not skilled and infected but not infected 723 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: m although there is a big theory about that that's 724 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: for a late date. Well, thank you, thank you, thank 725 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: you so much, Samantha. This was your idea and you 726 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: didn't really have to just my our OK. I'm into it, 727 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: uh and listeners, I would love to hear what you think. UM, 728 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts, please let us know. You 729 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: can email at Stephania mom stuff at I hurt VIIa 730 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: dot com. You can find us on Twitter. I'm also 731 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: a podcast or on Instagram or TikTok oh and if 732 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: this video is on TikTok we did not put on 733 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: any of my cup so oh well, stuff Bomb never 734 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: told you, and thanks as always to our stuper producer Christina. 735 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: Sorry for the spoilers, Christina, We love you, yes, but 736 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: please watch it Christina if you haven't already, and thanks 737 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: to you for listening. Stuff on ever told the protection 738 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. For more podcast for my heart Radio, 739 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: you can check out the Heart Radio. Have a podcast? 740 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: Wheready listen to your favorite shows