1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Jason Greenblatt is former Special Envoy to the Middle East 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: and the Trump administration and now as a partner at 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Our Crowd. Last week he published a piece in the 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Jerusalem Post headlined Israelis and Palestinians worked together against coronavirus. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: What can you tell us, Jason, about how this has happened? 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Kevin. A couple of things. First 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: of all, the pieces published in Hebrew in Israel, he 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Home English and Jerusalem Post, and Arabic in Al Jazeera 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: because people were fascinated by peace. In fact, I got 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: a call from the President of the State of Israel, 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: President of Eblin about the piece. And what it highlights 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: is that the Israelis and the Palestinians and the region 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: really share a trench in this battle against the invisible, 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: deadly enemy, and they recognize that and they want to 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: work together. More importantly, they need and they need to 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: work together, and they recognize this in order to fight 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: against it and prevented from coming back or handling it 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: when it comes back. You outline this in your piece, 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: But what are some of the ways that the Israelis 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: and the Palestinians had worked together on combat and COVID 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: night well, their security cooperation has been strengthened. The Israeli 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: government has given Palestinian healthcare worker professionals training, They've sponsored 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: joint workshops. Both sides are exchanging information together. The Israelis 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: have given a lot of protective gear to the Palestinian 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: healthcare workers and security personnel. Palestinian workers who normally come 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: in in droves to the Israeli side for money, which 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: is essential for their economy, are able to now stay 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: longer in Israel to make sure that they don't bring 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: the virus back into the Palestinian territories. So there's a 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of cooperation and I think President Rivlin said 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: it best when he spoke to President of BOSS where 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: he recognized that the world is dealing with a crisis 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't distinguish between people or where they live, and 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: he emphasized the need for cooperation, and President of BOS 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: was reciprocal when he said he pledged his full cooperation. Jason, Unfortunately, 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: there have been some examples of mistrus. They're not they 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: have and we can't ignore that. It's very important. I 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: want to go through a few of them because despite 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: the optimistic nature of the opinion that I wrote together 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: with a Palestinian friend of mine. These these are important. 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: You have a guy like Omar bar Goody, who is 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: the founder of the anti Israel, anti Semitic Boycott Investment 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Sanctions BDS movement, which by the way, harms Palestinians more 44 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: than anything else, so happily and hypocritically declares that although 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: we'll bash Israel and hate on Israel all the time, 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: it's okay for him to accept Israeli healthcare, including any 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: vaccine that might be developed out of Israel. Or the 48 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: recent couple of days ago glorification by certain Palestinian leaders 49 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: of the those terrorists who planned the massacre of the 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: Israeli Olympic athletes in the nineteen Munich Olympics. So even 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: though there are a lot of bright spots of cooperation, 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: there's also a lot of peace. We saw it also 53 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: with the new Israeli government formation. We saw some terrible 54 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: comments coming out of some Palestinian leaders about unity government. 55 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Stet falsely claimed that this new government means 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: the dismantling of Palestinian rights has established under international law 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: and resolutions. That's always part of the problem. There is 58 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: no international law or resolutions that are binding on this 59 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: conflict where they will solve this conflict. And the more 60 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: they say that, the deeper into the whole we yet 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: sab air God who claims that the annexation of occupied 62 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Palestinian territory is a threat to the world's where it's 63 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: not occupied Palestinian territory, it's disputed territory. I'm curious from 64 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: your perspective, Jason, have you ever seen historically in recent 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: history and in the past twenty years, for example, have 66 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: you ever seen a situation where the Israelis and the 67 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: Palestinians have have worked together like this? Primarily No, not 68 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: to this degree, especially when it especially when it comes 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: to godza As weel As has allowed a lot of 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: things to go into Gods in a way that has 71 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: not happened recently. The people in God's are suffering tremendously. 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: So I think Israel's action was critical and I think 73 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: we need to look at the bright spot despite the 74 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: ugly comments from some, we need to look at these 75 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: positive actions, positive comments. Comments like King of Bill of Jordan's, 76 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: who always very thoughtful, spoke about how the enemies of 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: yesterday and countries who weren't previously friendly on their parties 78 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: partners together, whether they like it or not. So I 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: believe that COVID nineteen offers a great wind of hope, 80 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: and it shows how the two sides and the region 81 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: to get past this issue of not working together to 82 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: better the lives of millions of people. Whether it solves 83 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: the piece issue or not, whether we can actually resolve 84 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: these longstanding issues remains to be seen. But I think 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: at the very least we can get cooperation between the 86 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: two sides and hopefully build enough trust and respect that 87 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: maybe it begins everybody taking down the path towards building 88 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: a true and lasting piece. All right. Jason Greenbot, former 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: Special Envoy to the Middle East and the Trump Administration 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: and now a partner at our crowd. Jason, thank you 91 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: so much for your time. Thank you, Kevin. Good to 92 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: hear from you.