WEBVTT - Throwback Episode: Toughening Up

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<v Speaker 1>Happy, Happy holidays, Brown Ambition Fam, it's mandra here. As

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know, Tiff and I are taking a little

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<v Speaker 1>break before the new year, but we've still got you

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<v Speaker 1>covered with some of our favorite Brown Ambition moments from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. All throughout this month, we're looking back

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<v Speaker 1>at memorable conversations and breaking down the most important lessons

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<v Speaker 1>we've learned this year. We can't thank you enough for

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<v Speaker 1>sticking by us in what has become one of our

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<v Speaker 1>biggest years for the show ever. So many amazing memories

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<v Speaker 1>from this year and I cannot wait to revisit some

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<v Speaker 1>of them with all of you. Guys. Are beloved BA fam.

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we are breaking down the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>toughening up. First, Are you overwhelmed or just lazy? That's

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<v Speaker 1>the question social justice leader Tamika D. Mallory posed in

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<v Speaker 1>a controversial Instagram post this year. It caused all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of debate and remains one of our most memorable conversations

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<v Speaker 1>to date. Then, we revisit an inspiring lesson on so

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<v Speaker 1>surviving and thriving through the pandemic with the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only founders of Double Dutch Aerobics, Sean and Michelle Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all are gonna love this conversation. I have never wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go dust off my old pair of double Dutch

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<v Speaker 1>ropes more than after this inspiring conversation with Sean and Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>So sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's

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<v Speaker 1>throwback episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Hey, Hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown, and its.

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<v Speaker 3>Jean, which I could see me like when I get

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<v Speaker 3>the hands going. It's giving Auntie realness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I was just gonna say, you are extra

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<v Speaker 1>chocolatey today. I'm seeing like the monochrome lip happening. You're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blurry, but I feel like you have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of bronze a on your eyelid. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up like this. I have not even washed

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<v Speaker 2>my face today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is oh, shut up, I take it back, but

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<v Speaker 1>you look gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I put a hit on it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>did you watch your face today? To be I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up and I took off my acne patch

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<v Speaker 1>at the last minute, so I was like, they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to see it. That's where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at today. Happy random vision Wednesday. How are you a

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<v Speaker 1>mandra I am a little frazzled, but I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 1>I finally, finally, well, I don't even know if I

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<v Speaker 1>can say finally. It wasn't like something that I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about for a long time, but all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>I just had this epiphany last week. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>an admin. It's time for an assistant.

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<v Speaker 2>And not like you like you're gonna say it's time

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<v Speaker 2>for the percolator.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, it's time for the time for It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a percolator, it's acolator.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's the percolator. You're showing your age. You're so young.

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<v Speaker 2>So the original song is time for the percolator.

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<v Speaker 3>So now they change to the tculator whatever they talk

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<v Speaker 3>now literally the original song is the percolator.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like some of your dance to it right now, like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that slide, like you know, you gotta do the

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<v Speaker 3>it's time for the percolate, like side to side and

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<v Speaker 3>then you got to do your footwork like it's got the.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing you got me just say, okay, young blood, let

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<v Speaker 1>me take you aside and teach you something because.

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<v Speaker 2>I was, and it shows.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why you need people of all different you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ages and backgrounds, because look how much more educated I am.

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<v Speaker 3>That you know that you will not embarrass yourself at

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<v Speaker 3>the at the next family function.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope not.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope not. Lord No, I'm a little I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little frazzled, but I I finally I found a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>young woman to help me and be my admin. And

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<v Speaker 1>could not have been I'd been at a better time,

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<v Speaker 1>because it seems like everything has been a little whack

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<v Speaker 1>a doodle the past week, starting with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow I managed to book so I'm going to Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>for a thing, and I managed to book two flights

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<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta. So one day two weeks ago, I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I finally got details. I'm going to book this flight.

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<v Speaker 1>And then five days went by and I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I just forgot that I had done it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh crap, I got to book this flight.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, and I set my reminder, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I booked another flight, and then I was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>my calendar and I'm like, why do I have two

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<v Speaker 1>different options one and there are different times leaving and

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<v Speaker 1>different times arriving, Like the brain is just not you

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<v Speaker 1>know where she needs be, so referral. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>really great I don't even know what to call Marisa.

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<v Speaker 1>Marisa is my She's someone that I met in my

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<v Speaker 1>last job and she has become I think I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about her before. She's sort of like my business budgetnistas

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel. So she and I actually talk every week,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have both been launching our solo business at

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, and so we just check each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we just ended up having these weekly Friday

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<v Speaker 1>calls and Marisa ended up I could talk about her

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<v Speaker 1>all day. But she is powerhouse professional PR REP. And

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<v Speaker 1>she is on this mission to give black women opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>in PR that they may not otherwise have. And we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about our sponsor word Tune, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>was meaning. What we were talking about is how important

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<v Speaker 1>written communication is and if you do not have communication

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<v Speaker 1>skills on point, it can really hurt you. But what

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<v Speaker 1>so often happens is people who may have the writing skills,

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<v Speaker 1>they may not have the professional background or specific jobs

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<v Speaker 1>in PR to get those opportunities, and they may be

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to pivot, but it can be hard for them

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<v Speaker 1>to pivot into that career. So Marisa is basically training

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<v Speaker 1>and helping people who have those great communication verbal skills,

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<v Speaker 1>written skills, but they just need some training and coaching

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<v Speaker 1>and how to do that in the context of public

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<v Speaker 1>relations and comms. So anyway, so I was talking to Marisa,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's like, it's time, and I said, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's time, and then she happened to be working with

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<v Speaker 1>this young woman named Rock. So Hey, Rocks, I'm adding

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<v Speaker 1>you as my assistant. But I'm excited because literally before

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes before we started recording, my little brother Tech

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<v Speaker 1>called me and he's all sound and haggard, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what's wrong, Alex, because I'm staying with him

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta because Atlanta is the COVID hell mouth right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And He's like, listen, I got the aches, I got

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<v Speaker 1>the chills, I'm not feel I'm fatigued. Meanwhile, he has

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<v Speaker 1>had COVID, he is vaccinated, so I just to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the safe side, I'm scrambling, I was. I was like, Rocks,

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<v Speaker 1>I got something for you. I need a hotel and

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<v Speaker 1>I have never needed to use the app hotels tonight

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<v Speaker 1>more than yeah, I need it now.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So yeah, I would say, so here's some here's

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<v Speaker 2>some unsolicited admin advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it to me, because I know you've been through

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<v Speaker 1>them girls one or two or three or seven definitely

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<v Speaker 1>for my team was like is it you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, is not me. I've had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>really awesome trauma.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, But what I've would I learned with admins

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<v Speaker 3>one it actually like whatever, like give her like a

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<v Speaker 3>general name because it's unlikely that Rocks will be with

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<v Speaker 3>you for like the next twenty years. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>just never know it's possible, but you never know. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, my admin's name is her real name is Rose.

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<v Speaker 3>But y'all have ever emailed me professionally or otherwise, it's

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<v Speaker 3>always Michelle.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether I've had admin's name.

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<v Speaker 3>Sylvia, Leah, Roseanne, Rose, Talatha, little Candice. I've just had

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<v Speaker 3>so many different admins and but either way, in the

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<v Speaker 3>inox d Molly Vicky Thomas, about three kims.

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<v Speaker 2>Like all write dmx no but for real.

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<v Speaker 3>So so that's always a good idea because it just

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<v Speaker 3>helps us like with continuity, like you know, as your

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<v Speaker 3>brand grows.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, And honestly, I mean, just like honestly, open

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<v Speaker 3>communication is always key, I believe just this is just

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<v Speaker 3>in general with like teams and whatever. What I've gotten

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<v Speaker 3>really like good at is like I want my admin

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<v Speaker 3>to think what would Tiffany do? So in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we talk all the time. As I'm giving

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<v Speaker 3>her instruction, I like to give her the backstory. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, so, for example, I'm like, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 3>just say something for a brand ambition that you've emailed me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not just like, oh, just let Mandy know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday's fine. I'm like, so, Mandy's my friend, but we

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<v Speaker 3>have a podcast today together, but we're actually really friends.

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<v Speaker 3>And then so it's important because when she emails you

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<v Speaker 3>that way doesn't sound off formal like hello Mandu, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually why not let him?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, just like, hey girl, anyway, be very scary

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<v Speaker 5>and that you're afraid of me.

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<v Speaker 3>So so I just think that like yeah, with admins,

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<v Speaker 3>well with anyone anyway, but especially admins, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>giving them kind of like I call it the soap opera,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, you're like, okay, so this is my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite show.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's Marcus.

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<v Speaker 3>So Marcus really likes Vanessa, but Vanessa is not luck Marcus,

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<v Speaker 3>because it really helps to make like wiser, more holistic

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<v Speaker 3>choices when I'm not as you know, as present.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that was it, honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>But honestly, don't be afraid too because it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 3>It took me a long time to realize.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't take a whole day to recognize sunshine.

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<v Speaker 3>Where I've had admins that weren't a fit and kept

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<v Speaker 3>them for a year and drowned instead. So now I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like there was an admin that we had recently,

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<v Speaker 3>and three days in I was like, yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>not a fit. And then within a week I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we wish you well, but this is not

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<v Speaker 3>a fit. I'm not doing that anymore where I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>suffer for a year when something's not a fit. They

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<v Speaker 3>might be a fit someplace else. Because we've had admins

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<v Speaker 3>who've been on the team and now they work on

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<v Speaker 3>another team, you know, because it was a better fit

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<v Speaker 3>for them there. And then just some people who weren't

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<v Speaker 3>just a culture fitted at all. But yeah, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's such a critical like my COEO Karen is

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<v Speaker 3>my right hand, I tell them and I told.

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<v Speaker 2>Rose, you are my left hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Like You're like you might, you know, if Oprah emails me,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see it before I do, so, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like ADMIN sounds like too small or worting compass.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stress like, do you want to be on watch

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<v Speaker 1>when Oprah emails? Tiffany be like how does email work?

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<v Speaker 3>Because we get some cool stuff that comes through, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know, so it's exciting, you know because

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<v Speaker 3>some of the people like ADMIN that seems like beneath me

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, no, sis, like, oh yes, it's so

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<v Speaker 3>critically important.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you can come up executive assistant, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call it, human roll of duct tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Just fix all the things, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>all the teams. Yes, know that, Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that for me, I learned I made a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mistakes running a team and building a team

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<v Speaker 1>and working with assistants in the past. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest mistakes that I made was not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to particulate what I needed. And I actually still do

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<v Speaker 1>this from time to time. We were just in Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Louis visiting my mom and I'm just not used to

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<v Speaker 1>having help, right, I mean, I have a husband, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, and my mom. I'm running

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<v Speaker 1>around and I'm just like stressed out. It's the first

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<v Speaker 1>day we're there. You know, we've thirty we've survived a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty hour road trip, et cetera. And it's I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to still work and I'm running around rio. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to like give him allergy medicine. We're looking for like

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<v Speaker 1>one of those little syringes whatever, but no one knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm running around with a chicken, like a chicken with

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<v Speaker 1>his head cut off, and I'm just like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>this deadline and in my head, in my head, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, why isn't my mom more helpful? Like why

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<v Speaker 1>isn't she just like seeing what I need? And she's

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<v Speaker 1>and she stopped me, and she's like, I can't help

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<v Speaker 1>you if you don't tell me what you need. And

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<v Speaker 1>I need a some ringe and she's like, oh, this one,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had anyway, so for me, And that's so anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So me with me and Rocks, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>all about you know, I had I did some introspective

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<v Speaker 1>like thinking about what do I need and what are

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<v Speaker 1>some tasks and all of that so that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just bringing someone on who has no direction. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know all in yes, I hope I Rocks has

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<v Speaker 1>a cool career of her own and you know, has

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<v Speaker 1>her own business. And it's almost like she has two

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<v Speaker 1>bosses because she also works with Marisa and she knows,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what I mean. I kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, if Maurice is on the phone and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, hey, you know, I'm your boss now

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<v Speaker 1>and just like hang up on Marine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I did that.

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<v Speaker 3>I make sure she creates while she's there, like an

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<v Speaker 3>s op, right, a scope of work, like what like

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<v Speaker 3>we got it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's about that business. I had one over the weekend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thats no, that's excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. We have we have Loom calls.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys use Loom, not calls,

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<v Speaker 3>but like Loom is like these recordings that we do now.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like to actually show someone and then you click.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like some latrea like our like our tech manager

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<v Speaker 3>on our team kind of like got us used to that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so helped because I'm not techie.

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<v Speaker 3>So like if I'm like trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>to do a thing, we have like you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>sets of videos like here's how you upload to da

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<v Speaker 3>da da, Here's how you you know, use whatever like

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<v Speaker 3>tool or resource. And it's just so helpful, those short videos.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, that's how you use it. Yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's cute design.

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<v Speaker 1>Here for the website, Shirley uses loom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh yeah, yes, that's why. That's why. No, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's great having help. Having help is so good. You

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<v Speaker 2>sent me like an Instagram post speaking of which, can we.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about it? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Ken?

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't we have to?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're not on ig like you used to be,

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<v Speaker 1>but did you were you aware of it before I

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<v Speaker 1>sent you this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? And so did it blow up?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it blew up on this person's page. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is and I actually shared it on our stories just

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<v Speaker 1>to get some quick feedback from our audience. Because so

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<v Speaker 1>this is a post that Tamika D. Mallory posted. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you have ever heard of the Women's March that

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<v Speaker 1>happened in twenty seventeen after the inauguration of He who

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<v Speaker 1>must not be named, Tamika was one of the founders

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<v Speaker 1>of that march, and she has become you got over

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<v Speaker 1>a million followers on Instagram she's become a huge social

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<v Speaker 1>activist and she does amazing work. Like this woman is

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<v Speaker 1>a bad, bad woman, and she I mean in a

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<v Speaker 1>good way, you know what I mean, She's amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel what.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>This just pop into my feed, this post that she

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<v Speaker 1>put up, and I will I will read it to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys too. But my gut reaction was something about

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<v Speaker 1>this does not set right with me. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into it, because it is, you know, she's been

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<v Speaker 1>getting into it. It has over four thousand comments on her

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<v Speaker 1>own page, and it's starting to make the rounds on

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<v Speaker 1>other black influencer pages. But before we get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>because we do need to talk about it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to establish that I am not a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of like cancel people because they said something

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<v Speaker 1>a bit toned off or whatever. Like this woman has

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<v Speaker 1>done so much for and still does. She just hosted

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing event in Harlem that was free for kids

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<v Speaker 1>and for families anyway, So this maybe was a misstep

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, but I don't think it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes away from her the body of work that

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<v Speaker 1>she has done and how much good she has done.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my disclaimer. But here's so here's the post.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those take a picture of a tweet

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<v Speaker 1>and post it things. And she says, IDK, who needs

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<v Speaker 1>to hear this? But you're not overwhelmed. You are lazy

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<v Speaker 1>and unorganized. Wake up earlier, get an agenda, book, create

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<v Speaker 1>a routine, create boundaries, say no, stick to your schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>write down and adhere to your deadlines. You are standing

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<v Speaker 1>in your own way. And her caption said, let me

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<v Speaker 1>write a caption here, because it seems people don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>that every post is not for every person. There are

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<v Speaker 1>many people who just need to focus on their plan,

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<v Speaker 1>stay off the internet and prioritize and stop being lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me at times. And this post is for you

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<v Speaker 1>if you know you can do better, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I will leave it there, and then she liked so

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<v Speaker 3>she did an updated post just so you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the next post she said she double out yes,

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<v Speaker 3>when I read a post that says I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>who needs to hear this? And then I read the

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<v Speaker 3>post and it doesn't apply to me, I move on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't tell the person who's post to get they

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<v Speaker 3>are they are wrong about something they feel is important.

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<v Speaker 2>Could it be that it hit you deep.

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's the thing. Here's what I say. Right, you

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<v Speaker 3>are free to post whatever you want, but also people

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<v Speaker 3>are free to respond unless you turned off comments. Right

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<v Speaker 3>and then two. I don't know, girl, because I have

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<v Speaker 3>been on both sides. We're definitely there's times when I've

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<v Speaker 3>just been straight lazy, you know. And there's times when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm overwhelmed. Not because I'm actually overworked. I'm overwhelmed because

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<v Speaker 3>there's underlying stress that is actually causing me. Like I know,

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm feeling stressed, if one nap is not enough,

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<v Speaker 3>like usually I take maybe like forty five minute nap.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I'm like yo, I slept two hours today

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<v Speaker 3>during the day and then I'm still tired and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>tired again. One of the fastest ways that my body

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<v Speaker 3>gives me an indication, Tiffany, you are stressed deeply, so

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<v Speaker 3>borderline depressed is I'm sleepy in a way. That's unap.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not me being lazy. That is my body saying stop.

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<v Speaker 3>We are overwhelmed. For whatever we say, it doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>mean overworked, but we are overwhelmed and we are physically

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<v Speaker 3>slowing you down.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she just missed the mark.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I get what she's saying, because certainly, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there are definitely times when it's like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you really could do a little bit more, or you

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<v Speaker 3>could step up. But to say here's the thing, I

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<v Speaker 3>would have just it would have hit better if it

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<v Speaker 3>was like sometimes we've all been lazy and we need

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<v Speaker 3>to get organized, wake up. But to say you're not overwhelmed,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like you're making a judgment. You don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>someone's not overwhelmed. You know, you don't know the cause

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<v Speaker 3>if they're overwhelmed. It just it's an easy, lazy post.

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<v Speaker 3>And then to say, oh, well, oh well, oh well,

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<v Speaker 3>if it doesn't apply to you, it's like, well it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work that way. It says you posted it publicly,

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<v Speaker 3>so you get addressed publicly, and that's okay. That's just

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<v Speaker 3>the way the world works. I can freely speak and share,

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<v Speaker 3>and people can freely give me their their feedback, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so it goes both ways. So I think that it

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<v Speaker 3>was like kind of a miss step there. Although certainly,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you know, we need a little kick in the behind,

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know that this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a thing, and this is why I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Tiffany, you were right to get off IG

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the danger of being an IG and

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<v Speaker 1>putting yourself You're scrolling through social media land minds is

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel it, and you don't know when you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hit one. And I know because as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>who deals with anxiety, and not even I will fully,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a spectrum of anxiety, and I am on the

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<v Speaker 1>border of having like a diagnosed anxiety disorder. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have managed and have people in my life who truly

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<v Speaker 1>have debilitating anxiety disorders that stem from things like sexual assault,

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<v Speaker 1>being abused in the past, or they generally just have

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<v Speaker 1>an anxiety disorder. And I put myself in the shoes

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<v Speaker 1>of someone and having also dealt with my own anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>who is just scrolling through their IG feed and they

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<v Speaker 1>see this, And this is where her intention doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>met her, because the thing is the person. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>she says this may not be for everybody, everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>going to see it because you posted it publicly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very You say tough love, and I agree. I

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<v Speaker 1>have said things like this to people that I love,

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<v Speaker 1>a cousin, a sibling. I'm the tough love sibling in

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<v Speaker 1>the family, Like I call it like it is. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, which I can do because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we have such a foundation of love and support and

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<v Speaker 1>they know that it's coming from that place of love

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<v Speaker 1>and support. And that's why I think that's where like

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<v Speaker 1>people that you know personally, I think you can give

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<v Speaker 1>them that tough love and you know. So it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like she knows some people, maybe three or four or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many who she should have texted

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<v Speaker 1>this too privately. I do not think that the entire

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<v Speaker 1>world and unsuspecting people who may have been scrolling on

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<v Speaker 1>their ig feeds who follow her for her amazing work,

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to see something like this, because I just my

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<v Speaker 1>heart breaks, because even I have been someone who had

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<v Speaker 1>to learn, who had to learn to be gentle with

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<v Speaker 1>people who have anxiety and have mental health issues. I

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<v Speaker 1>am someone who, you know, if you're walking too slow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, just hurry up, Oh your ankle hurts, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because I am so hard on myself for

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<v Speaker 1>my own self esteem issues. It's my own like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>projecting my insecurity on someone else, you know what I mean? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>where I have learned to be really empathetic to people,

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<v Speaker 1>as I've seen how a fucking to do list and

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<v Speaker 1>an agenda book does not work when you have an

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety disorder. The problem is not that you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at this post and I'm like getting even angrier.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem isn't that they don't know how to do

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<v Speaker 1>the things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can write down a list step one through ten, and

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<v Speaker 1>if step one is put on your shoes, they are

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<v Speaker 1>still paralyzed, you know, and everything is overwhelming and laying

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<v Speaker 1>on the couch or taking a walk or doing whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, putting their head under a pillow that seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the what their body needs at that time.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just think I still timed right, like there's

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<v Speaker 5>never a good time, right, but meaning like especially now,

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<v Speaker 5>especially now, are we gonna act like there's not collective

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<v Speaker 5>trauma that we're all dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen people die.

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<v Speaker 3>In mass right, scared to go outside, like run, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>running to get your mask every single time, worrying about

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<v Speaker 3>your elderly parents or your grandma.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Now kids are getting the delta variant and dying. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw a four year old just died. We didn't just

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<v Speaker 3>have like these terrible storm systems that passed through. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, like, literally, there is a collective trauma

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<v Speaker 3>that we are experiencing worldwide. You know, this is not

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<v Speaker 3>good times, you know, the nineties, when the when the

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<v Speaker 3>when the economy is doing good worldwide. No, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a collective trauma that we are experiencing as a human

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<v Speaker 3>race period.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no corner of the world that has not been

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<v Speaker 3>experiencing some form of trauma as relates to what's happened

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<v Speaker 3>with COVID, And so I just feel like, although it's

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<v Speaker 3>never a good time, it's actually ill timed because sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>people don't even know that they're experiencing trauma. Like literally,

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<v Speaker 3>I won't know that like something is going on until

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<v Speaker 3>like Superman will be like you all right, and I'm like, yeah, why,

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, this is your third nap today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like it is, you know, And I'm like, well.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'll just be sitting on a cap and I

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<v Speaker 3>can't even keep my eyes open, and I'm like, but

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<v Speaker 3>you slept last night, Tiffany, and I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm weary, but not physically tired.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just think, like I hear you says, but well,

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<v Speaker 3>then you have to hear us too, like not as.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying it, and remember that your words have so much power.

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<v Speaker 1>How could she forget?

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<v Speaker 2>How can you forget?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't help but be dificainst that energy. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of people who were like, yeah, I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>thanking her for saying it. And I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>people read this and they were like yop. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also I don't. I don't think this is that much different,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe I should think before I say this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think really fast. But remember Rachel Hollis when

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<v Speaker 1>she came out and she said, do you think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be relatable relatable?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Was Harriet Tubman relatable Da da da da da?

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<v Speaker 1>Now her, it's it's very different. Rachel Hollis is white

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<v Speaker 1>da da da, you know, and she has that whole

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<v Speaker 1>series called girl dot dot Dot, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, culturally appropriating, like a phrase that black women started.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, and in this case, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost as if she's saying this wasn't for you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're not if you don't find this,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't enjoy what I'm saying then it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for you, so just keep it moving, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to relate to everybody, but when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a public platform, your words have matter, and they

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<v Speaker 1>they matter and they have such a huge reach. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I just fear for the people who are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at that and internalizing that same dialogue, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>something is wrong with me if I can't do things

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<v Speaker 1>I should have things everyone else should have. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the peril of being on social media, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is one of those I think digital land mines

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<v Speaker 1>that just it goes off, and I think if you're

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<v Speaker 1>the one who plans it there, you have to take

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility for that. I hate that it was her because

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<v Speaker 1>she's wonderful and her work is so extraordinary. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was disappointed, I really was in how she handled the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, Like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl, Like laziness is not Sometimes laziness is actually the symptom.

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<v Speaker 1>To a greater issue. Isn't that what white people have

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<v Speaker 1>been calling Black people for so long? Or like wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to think that we're just lazy? Yes, why are you complaining?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be a victim? Wow, it's like internalized racism, internalized patriarchy,

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<v Speaker 1>internalize all the things that are manifesting themselves, and that if.

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<v Speaker 3>You would just do this, Like I have a friend

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<v Speaker 3>that created something and it was stolen from him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a black creator.

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<v Speaker 3>It was stolen for him, and I'm like, you know

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<v Speaker 3>all the things they say, Well, if you just worked hard,

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<v Speaker 3>he did. He built something that was unique and brought

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<v Speaker 3>it to market connected with an advisor.

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<v Speaker 2>The advisor knew wealthier folks, gave them.

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<v Speaker 3>Back room access to the thing that he built, so

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<v Speaker 3>they were their engineers were able to recreate it, was

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<v Speaker 3>able to raise one hundred million dollars for their project

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<v Speaker 3>off his black back.

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<v Speaker 2>And you'd be like, oh, well, maybe went to school.

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<v Speaker 3>He went to Harvard. I'm sorry, he went to Harvard.

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<v Speaker 3>So all the things you can check off all the lists,

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:10.879
<v Speaker 3>you can build something, you can work really hard, you

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 3>can go to Harvard. You could do all those things,

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<v Speaker 3>and someone can still come in and take from you

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<v Speaker 3>and create.

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<v Speaker 2>Wealth from them for themselves off of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, hello Elvis Presley, Hello all the TikTokers that take

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 3>all the dances from all the brown babies on TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and so like that is not something new.

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<v Speaker 3>So I hate when people say that, well, if black

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<v Speaker 3>people just work harder, I'm like, you're kidding, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's not really what's happening. You know, it's possible

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<v Speaker 3>to work hard and still be taken from and still

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<v Speaker 3>be stolen from. I mean, it's happened to me, and

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<v Speaker 3>then what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Then? How much hard am I supposed to work?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't make miracles happen, you know, It's just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean so to see that, especially in the landscape

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<v Speaker 3>that we're in now, that's why, like I said, you

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<v Speaker 3>guys to do it's best for you. I am a

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<v Speaker 3>much best place than I was before. When I tell

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<v Speaker 3>you what, right before this, I wasn't laid out for

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<v Speaker 3>a nap. I was like mm hmm, and I have

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<v Speaker 3>a vacation planned in two weeks. And then I have

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<v Speaker 3>a yes, I'm going, so me and me and I

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<v Speaker 3>was gone home. Maybe you don't want to say no,

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<v Speaker 3>well I won't say I will because you don't know where,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm just gonna go to I was like Superman,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've never been to Niagara Falls.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go for three days. So just book a quick

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<v Speaker 2>three days.

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<v Speaker 3>Jont mid midweek to like Niagara Falls, and then for

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<v Speaker 3>my birthday and Hawaii for a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, a little gym and pam office moment. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you watch the Office, No, I don't, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of us are not millennials and it shows.

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<v Speaker 6>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but yeah, Hawaii for my birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just told myself every other month I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>because literally I have Fridays off, so I can leave

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Friday to Sunday, you know, bring a friend. I have

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<v Speaker 3>so many points, so I just told myself I'm prioritizing

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<v Speaker 3>the things that bring me joy, reading books. Y'all know,

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<v Speaker 3>I take my daily walks. You know, I take my

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<v Speaker 3>nap if I need it. You know, I was just

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 3>talking to my puplicist Tracy. The Days shout out to you, Tracy,

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<v Speaker 3>I should connect her with Your friend's name is Marisol Marisa.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you have Mariice's resume and I already connected

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<v Speaker 1>you to her, so all you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I should connect she just busy.

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<v Speaker 4>Let her get her.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean just to connect them to together, just

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<v Speaker 2>to like, you know, just I think.

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just they would get on great. Yeah, Tracy is

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<v Speaker 1>at her own little pr empire two yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I no, I just think that, Like so

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 3>she was saying today, She's like, you know, you don't

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 3>have You're not doing that much press anymore. And I'm like, no,

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, because I've I've drawn a boundary of like

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 3>it's not that serious unless I'm really like rolling out

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 3>a big project. So to me that you have to

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>do what's right for you for me social media, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know, and you know, I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>myself coming back where I was before, you know, creating

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 3>things ahead of time, giving it to the team. I

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 3>come on to do like my fun lives when I

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 3>want to, and then I jump off and I'm happier.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm light, you know, I feel like I have way

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<v Speaker 3>more space. I'm reading literally at least a book a week,

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 3>if not too and like I'm just I'm just in

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 3>a much better place in space. So ta Mika, Marie,

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<v Speaker 3>I loved you, Gurubadu saying it. And you know, if

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 3>you are feeling like you know, maybe you're not as motivated,

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, ask yourself, what are the underlying factors that

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.479
<v Speaker 3>might be preventing you from moving forward in the way

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 3>that you feel as capitalism, you know.

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Capitalism, they create this. I mean, I think, well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to stay on this topic for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because I we're kind of segueing into what

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<v Speaker 1>it means to be even just a business owner or

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<v Speaker 1>to go out on your own. And I think like

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you've always been really good about realistic entrepreneur stories and

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>about the struggle and about the grind. But I also

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>think that there's a lot of people out there who

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>have launched businesses and they think that or you have

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that if I'm not working twenty four to seven,

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>then I'm not doing enough, or I should be working

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>on the weekends. And I feel like it's the I've

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>had the benefit of watching people like you build your

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>business and also having my financial planner, Helen has an

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>even broader service where she actually coaches and helps people

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>become CEOs. And what I love is that I have

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>when I've approached my business is I've taken I've decided

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sacrifice my mental health. I want

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>a better way of working. You know, I don't want

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to work when I don't need to. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to choose how I spend my time and

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<v Speaker 1>to and like you said, like it's okay to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of yourself and you can still be a badass

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>business person like a business woman business person when you

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>take naps, when you take a walk, you know, when

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you draw those lines. And we need more examples like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm so glad that you're open about it. I

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>am a four. I quit at four o'clock, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it so much. Yeah.

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I was already kind of doing it before, but now

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to fee guilty about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you're the boss, you know, And to see my

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 3>boss say, oh, that's why it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, just that now, and yes, and I flexible working

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>arrangements now that you can work remote, I think it

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>is wonderful. And hopefully yes, and take those naps during

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the day. And I would literally, even when I was

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>nine to five, like schedule an hour and you know,

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I have my nap, my moon pod down, my little

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>nap zone. I would take a nap unapologetically around three

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>o'clock because it's like, what am I going to do?

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Drug myself with caffeine? There's not the people we've just

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>normalized drugging ourselves to get through the day when what

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>our bodies need is some rest, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Because what you learn is this is that if you

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 3>maximize the time that you are working, you actually don't

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 3>have to work as much. So I've learned that, like,

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 3>for example, if I was if I was writing, like

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 3>when I was writing getg Go with Money, right, there

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 3>were times when I was like, oh, Tiffany, I got

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 3>to push through, and I'd be like, well, what does

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 3>it do? Because I promise you, whatever this tired work

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 3>thing is, you're gonna have to rewrite this section because

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 3>it's not gonna be good work. So I've learned to

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 3>lean in when I'm feeling energized. Like so if I

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 3>know I'm feeling energized and normally I maybe only blocked

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 3>out an hour, I'm like, let's do three, Tiffany, because

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 3>you got the juice right now, because tomorrow, when you

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 3>don't feel like doing anything, I don't do anything, you know.

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>So that's what I've really learned.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like my own circadian rhythm as it relates

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 3>to work, not just not just sleep. Right, So I

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>learned that when I'm on it, I'm like, oh, okay,

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 3>juices are flowing. I might flow for three days straight,

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 3>and so I'll really go hard because I know that, like,

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, Saturday, Sunday or Monday or sometimes I just

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 3>like today, I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't really like

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, you know, but because last week

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I leaned in when I had the juice, it gives

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<v Speaker 3>me space to relax when I don't, because what it

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 3>is is that something internally is telling me pull back

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 3>and relax, and it's okay to honor that now, to

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 3>be honest, it's different. I always remind Tracy, my publicist,

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 3>because she's just started in business, and so I remind

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 3>her too that she has to create space. But that

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 3>looks different because you like, in the beginning, the work

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 3>is a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit more frantic.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even gonna lie, Like there's no way to

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 3>get around that in the beginning because you don't even.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Know what you're doing just yet.

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, you're still figuring it out, but still really

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 3>trying to carve out space, you know, Whereas now I

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 3>don't need to work frantically literally at all.

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like, girl, what do I pay these people for?

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I pay I pay the people to for franticness you know,

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 3>and I pay them well and so I it yo,

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 3>cause Tracy will come over and like like work for

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 3>my house and like literally it should be like you're

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 3>just on the couch under a blanket. I'm like, girl,

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm listening to to my new business book. I'm reading

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 3>this book now called Bill to Sell and it's so

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 3>great and I'm like, I am working. I'm just working

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 3>in my my favorite target night dress and my headphones.

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just like this what a self made CEO can

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>look like.

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Girl, And honestarily, when I tell you what you do

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 3>that I promise you the After my six weeks, the

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 3>level of just like excitement and traces that you've been

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>on one I have been. That break recharged me so fully.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 3>It took my idea from like this is eight figures

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 3>to pitching it and people telling me like when it's ready,

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 3>this is nine figures. You let me know, And I'm like, really,

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, like that taking time and giving yourself space

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>truly is the best way to success. That overworking yourself

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 3>just means whatever ideas and things you come up with

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 3>are tired and semi broken, and so like you take

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>a break before you break. You know, that's always my advice.

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>We're so excited to have Michelle and Sean Clark from

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Double Dutch Aerobics from Atlanta in the house with us.

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining Brown.

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 3>And I remember what was the year that, What was

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 3>the Girl Trek year?

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 4>What year was?

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 6>Because you know, because I was Yep, it was right Angel.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 3>So I met Seana Michelle in Colorado at the Girl

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Trek conference. Girl Trek is this awesome nonprofit that just

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 3>it helps black women get moving.

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 2>To say they have energy is to say water is wet.

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 3>And I just remember being like, what they people that

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 3>you never think would double do. I mean, they had

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 3>people out there eighty black white age. Now I didn't

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.959
<v Speaker 3>grow I don't know how to double dutch. I felt

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 3>that was like my shame. I moved away from my

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 3>black neighborhood just just one year too late before they

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 3>was teaching her, and so I was like, I can't

0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:57.800
<v Speaker 3>do it.

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 2>You're like you can. So yes, Mandy knows how to

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>double Dutch. So I'm jealous of her.

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now that was twenty years ago. I'm so excited

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>about y'all's business. I think Tiffany knew y'all first. I

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>think I might have slid into y'all's DMS or likewise,

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>but we were we were chatting on ig and y'all

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>know I'm from Atlanta and double Dutch is just such

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a nostalgic activity for me, you know, when I was

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>a little girl, that was just you know, we were

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>latchkey kids in the neighborhood with our bikes and a

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>couple pairs of jump ropes and you could not tell

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>us nothing. We had the best time, you know, with

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>like the littlest amount of equipment. And I just love

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.839
<v Speaker 1>the concept of this business. But as fun as it is,

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and how you know, all the energy and enthusiasm that

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>y'all bring to you know, bringing fitness to the Atlanta area,

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>it's also been a pandemonium. It's a pandemic the last year. Right,

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>How have y'all been impacted as a business? You know,

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>where was your business at when the panda hit kind

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of set the scene for us, Yeah, where were you

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>at right before the pandemic hit? I mean this is

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>a very much in person. You're sweating indoors, you know,

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, jumping and breathing your heart out, and that

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>was all of a sudden not okay, yeah, it.

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 4>Slapped us in the face.

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 6>It's very scary for us.

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 4>It was very scary. So it was February.

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 6>It was February.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, first, we've been in business for seven years, right,

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 7>and it's funny because twenty twenty it was our best year.

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 6>Like it was starting off amazing. Michelle and I we were.

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, we finally were going to the top.

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 6>We're going to the top.

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes, New Year's Resolution time.

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean that is super Bowl, right, it was becoming

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 4>our biggest year sure, yes, as a business.

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 7>So so in the beginning, you know, we were booking

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 7>a lot of events for the summer. So we were

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 7>booked for the summer because we also do so outside

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 7>of teaching our normal classes, we do events like girl

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 7>Track and essence fests and prisons. We teach at federal

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 7>prisons across the country. We do tours, we do you know,

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 7>we do a lot of things. And everything was but

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 7>we had our certification weekend that was sold out.

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 6>It sold out in like two weeks.

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 4>So what certification weekend is where we certify instructors to

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 4>teach our program in their city or their state. Right,

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 4>so we were completely sold out and it sold out.

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 4>What in like five days.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 6>It was super fast.

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, And that was in February. We had completely

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 4>sold out fast, and it was going to be in April. Yes,

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 4>And we hadn't done one in a year because we

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 4>had a little human and so we had took a

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 4>year off. We took a year off from certification, not

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 4>from work. So this was our year back into certification.

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 4>And the fact that it sold out so fast, it's

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 4>like we were finding our group.

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we were in a groove and.

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Then well, y'all, y'all here, and then the world said

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 4>stop wait a minute. And at first we were like,

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 4>you ain't. I don't care about no pandem, but you're

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 4>not gonna stop us.

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 6>We still doing it. We were still still going.

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.919
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's the New York, right, Let's just keep going,

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 7>keep going until they stop us.

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 4>Until like put us to like lock the doors, tell

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 4>us that you cannot leave your house right until.

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Keisha lance Bottom shows up at the door to get

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>till Keisha Land's Bottom shows up in person at the door.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 4>I was like what, I was devastated. I was devastated because.

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>What did it mean for y'all financially? Like paint the picture?

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:41.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, did y'all have reserves. We talk a lot

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>about you know, personal financial rainy day funds, but for

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>small business owners, I mean seven years in is still early.

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>How were you guys financially?

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 7>So we we had a we had a little we

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 7>had a little little reserves, Smitch, but you know we

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 7>had to eventually we had to get a loan.

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 7>That got us through it. And then during the pandemic,

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 7>I learned the stock market. So it was actually a

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 7>blessing because you know, everything was shut down. I had

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 7>nothing else to do, and at the time during the pandemic,

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 7>it was actually the best time to invest, yep. So

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.320
<v Speaker 7>that actually helped us out a lot, you know, investing

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 7>in the stock market. I would literally like study every day. Yeah,

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 7>I'd study every day. And so we we we we

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 7>did okay with that. That that got us through.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 4>That was helping us.

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 7>And then out here in Atlanta, they opened that kind

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 7>of early. So like when did they shut us down

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 7>in March and the beginning of March, so by like

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 7>the middle of May, we start.

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 6>We started. We started class.

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 4>Again outside outside because the studios that we were renting

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 4>were completely closed and the schools where we were working,

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 4>everything was completely closed, as you know. So we started

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 4>classes every Saturday nine am, and God was on our side.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 4>It didn't rain one Saturday that entire the highest summer

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 4>from May till September. It didn't rain one time at

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 4>our time Monday and every Saturday. So we were pushing it.

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 4>So we had classes outside that helped us out. I

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 4>also started to dive more into I suffered from fibruarys

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 4>before having children, and I healed myself naturally, and I

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 4>was helping women a little bit, but I started to

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 4>dive into that even more. So I was doing lives

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 4>once a week, and so I started to coach women

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 4>for money. And then I was also selling my ebook.

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 4>So we just started to like we've just.

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I know, I bought one.

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I said, you know, I suffered from from I suffered

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 3>from five.

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 4>So we started to dive into that more. And that's

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 4>also another passion of mine, so that, you know, you

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 4>just start to to push. I also started to in

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 4>terms of mentality, Sean's a little better than me.

0:40:59.080 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 6>I was.

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh my god, this is it, this

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:03.959
<v Speaker 4>is it. Life is over, you know, like it's over.

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 4>And so I had to get out of that because

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:10.280
<v Speaker 4>I was Sean someone we know passed away. It started

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 4>to get more real, you know what I mean.

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 7>And I think I think that was the biggest part

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 7>for me. So, you know, we you know, we lost

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 7>a lot of money. We weren't making money obviously because

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 7>we're in the fitness business. We were selling more ropes.

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 7>And then okay, so I'm all over there.

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 6>Let me go back.

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 7>First of all, I gotta I gotta shout out our

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 7>double Dutch community. So like we have so during for

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 7>we have memberships, so we have lifetime members, we have

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 7>yearly memberships, we have monthly membership. Our lifetime members stuck

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 7>it out. They came to class every week. They were

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 7>supporting us, they were bringing people to class. So they

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:56.799
<v Speaker 7>were really really helping us. So I just want to

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 7>I just want to. I want to say that, yes,

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 7>I want I want to thank them for that, because

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 7>our community is growing and it's super supportive because Michelle

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 7>and I we give one hundred percent of us right

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 7>to this business, to this brand, and they feel it

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 7>and they know it, you know.

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 6>So it's all love, you know, because.

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Our classes did very well outside during the pandemic, which

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 4>was like oh okay.

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>It was probably it sounds like the It sounds like dang.

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I wish I had been in Atlanta to weather that's

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>out because what I mean, it probably just helps you

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.280
<v Speaker 1>meet the endorphins alone, but also just is there anything

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>more joyful right than double Dutch to be doing outdoors

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:36.280
<v Speaker 1>during a pandemic.

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 4>It's like, for that moment, everything was okay and that

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 4>time being, you know what I mean.

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 7>And then second to that, I think most importantly like, oh,

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 7>like I was saying before, so we were losing a lot,

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 7>but what was really important to be, like I said before, was.

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 6>Our health right.

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 7>So you know, I'm worried about my mother in New York,

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 7>my sister, like my brother, all of them have pre

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 7>existing ILK condition. And so I started a Zoom Fitness

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 7>class online and it was really just family and friends

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 7>because in my mind, I'm getting emotional hold let me,

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 7>let me calm down. In my mind, I had to

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 7>make sure everyone was okay. So for me, I was like,

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.720
<v Speaker 7>all right, every day, we're gonna work out, we're gonna

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 7>eat right, we're gonna juice, we're gonna you know, we're

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 7>gonna do whatever we have to do to get through

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 7>this pandemic, you know.

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 4>So and then Sean and I will work it out

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 4>like crazy. Because at first you're like, oh, first, sure, upset,

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 4>it's so many emotions happened. So first upset that everything

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 4>is shut down. Then you're like, okay, well I have

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 4>to be home. Let me take advantage of being home, right,

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:45.479
<v Speaker 4>And so I was doing what to a day workout? Yes,

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 4>we were having the kids when it was my turn

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 4>to workout, you know, thank god for YouTube. Put the

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 4>kids on YouTube to work out downstairs. Then we will

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 4>work out outside. I was getting a little fit, and

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 4>then I mean more fit. Then it's like, wait a minute,

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 4>we really tried. Wait are we really tripped? Wait this

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 4>is not going to end like in a month? Wait

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 4>two months.

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>So now I don't want to work.

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 4>Out no more. Now I'm suppressed. Now I'm eating like

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 4>a crazy person. I don't know. The motivation went away.

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 4>And then we started to hear about people dying and

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 4>it's like, my mom, I just I just felt down.

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 6>It was just one after the other.

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 4>It was just one after the other. It was like,

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, this is is this the end of

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 4>the world? Wait a minute, is this how happened?

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:37.919
<v Speaker 3>Like you know, like like you know, how your grandma said,

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 3>it's the last lace.

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 2>It's always it's.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Always the last days. When they get old, You're like, well,

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:44.320
<v Speaker 3>why why I couldn't do the last days when you

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 3>were five?

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about the last days now.

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 3>But like, if we if we dial back a little

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 3>bit came I mean, for those who are not familiar

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 3>with double double dutch aerobics, like what how?

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 2>What made you say this is what I want to do?

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Like, because it's such a unique business, I would love

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 3>to know some of the origin story.

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I went to acting school. I did musical theater,

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 4>so I you know, nine of music theater people we

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 4>do waitressing and bartending, and we teach. I was a

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 4>spin teacher, so I was teaching everything in the world.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 4>I told everything you could imagine. I can't even swim,

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 4>but I was teaching water robins. So during that time,

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 4>Sean was my boyfriend at the time, and I've been

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 4>jumping double since I was four, so I always told

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 4>him I was good, but everybody from New York says

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 4>they're good, so he thought I was good, like regular good,

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:43.240
<v Speaker 4>you know. And so I also was a world champion,

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.720
<v Speaker 4>so I did street style jumping and competitor style jumping.

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 4>So we were at an event for the YMCA where

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 4>I was teaching spin class. So I was teaching five

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 4>thirty am spin class. Sean only came to one of

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:57.439
<v Speaker 4>my class, but that's a different story anyway, So we

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:03.800
<v Speaker 4>so you hear numbers. He saw me teaching and jumping,

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 4>and he was like, oh, I knew you were good,

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 4>but I didn't know you were like that good. And

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 4>so when I told him this idea, he was like, oh,

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 4>you have to start next week, like you have to start,

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 4>and so I said okay, and then I started the

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:18.760
<v Speaker 4>next week.

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we literally started the next week.

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>And what were you doing at the time, oh, Sean? Yeah,

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>what was Sean doing while he was telling you to

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>start a business?

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 7>Well, I owned a film company, so I was a

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.319
<v Speaker 7>videographer and editor. So my best friend and I we

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 7>started making movies when we were like eighteen and nineteen.

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 7>We would do like like one hour shorts and you know,

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 7>we you.

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 6>Know, we just for years we were doing it.

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 7>And so I went from filming movies into like film

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 7>doing like corporate events and weddings.

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:50.320
<v Speaker 6>And things of that nature.

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 7>And then I moved from that and I started a

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 7>teleprompter company. So I was prompting. I was doing like

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 7>television shows, and I worked with like Obama, Beyonce likes

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 7>let me tell you, let me tell you now, So

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 7>I mean I did it.

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 6>I did it for ten years.

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 7>So I worked with literally anybody you can think of,

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 7>I probably worked with them.

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 6>And so I was doing that for a while. And then,

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 6>like you know, I've always been like.

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:24.240
<v Speaker 7>An entrepreneur that was young, you know, my my family

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 7>and now we opened a record store when I was

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 7>twenty years old. You know, we had a record label.

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:32.800
<v Speaker 7>It was the nineties, you know, we had a record label.

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 7>We managed groups. I started promoting parties when I was eighteen.

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 4>And actually how I met Sean was he was I

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 4>was bartending and he made a movie called this Thing

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 4>called Love and I was like, oh, they made a

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 4>movie by themselves.

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 6>That's dope.

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 4>So I'm trying to get me to buy it. But

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't buy stuff at work because I'm kind of productive.

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>You came in with like the box of DVDs to

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:56.359
<v Speaker 1>sell your room.

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 4>I love it.

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 7>So my best friend at the time, I worked for

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 7>the Border Bed briefly, and my best friend, my best

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:09.800
<v Speaker 7>friend and I we literally quit our jobs. We made

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 7>this movie, put the did the DVDs, we went out,

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 7>we went out in the streets and we were selling them.

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 7>And we did very well out in the streets, out

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.719
<v Speaker 7>in those streets. And so my friend invited me to

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:26.240
<v Speaker 7>this event she was having. She was like, you know, Sean,

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 7>come on out, you know you can promote your movie.

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 7>And I was like, back, I'm coming. So when I

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:34.359
<v Speaker 7>got there, my best friend and I we both had

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:35.400
<v Speaker 7>on the same shirts.

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 4>And I saw grown people with the same shirt, Like,

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 4>what's in the same shirt for I was like, it

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 4>looks a little crazy, you know what I'm saying. So

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to read his shirt, so I asked him

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 4>to come over and read his shirt. He doesn't drink,

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 4>so I wasn't selling him a drink, right, So he

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 4>he said I could have the movie only if I

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 4>promised to give my honest review. And so, being a

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 4>theater major at the time and I was in circling

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 4>the square, I thought I have to watch it, and

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 4>I thought it was so good, and they made it

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 4>with three hundred dollars, so I was thoroughly impressed. And

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 4>then I called to tell him my review of the

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 4>movie and then.

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 7>Every day literally been talking every single day.

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 2>So how long how many years ago is that?

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 6>That was twelve years ago?

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Wow, look at him and completely tall.

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 4>The Saints, but getting back in the bay. So he

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 4>was my boyfriend. He was still doing. He was doing.

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.280
<v Speaker 4>He was an entrepreneur at the time I was teaching spend.

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 4>I was bought. I was doing everything that theater people

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 4>do right, and so he saw that I was good.

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 4>He told me to start the class. I started the

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 4>class that next week and the person who I was

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:51.839
<v Speaker 4>teaching I was teaching with different teammates off and on,

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 4>but they couldn't stay consistent, which was understandable because this

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 4>was my you know what I mean, this was my passion.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 4>So Sean was like, well, man, sure you have continue

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 4>teach me everything. And I was like, okay, Now, Sean's

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 4>one of those people like we have the studio. Now,

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 4>guys who put in the lights? He done, did the

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 4>what do you call those things? He put up the

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 4>designs in here. He's a YouTube learner, right, so he

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 4>learns things really fast. So I was able to teach

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:20.399
<v Speaker 4>him everything and then he enjoyed, Well, you can say

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 4>what you enjoyed. He actually began to enjoy.

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 7>So, so the idea was to get the business off

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.439
<v Speaker 7>the ground, get it rolling, and then I would jump

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 7>out like no pun intended.

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:34.320
<v Speaker 6>But what happened.

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 7>What happened was I started enjoying it because it's like, so,

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 7>if you ever took one of our classes, it's bigger

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 7>than Double Dutch. So it's like, like I said, we

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 7>build communities in here. It's like we're trying to build

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:49.319
<v Speaker 7>like little love pockets around the world. Like when you

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 7>come to our class, there's no judgment, you know, it's

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 7>it's high energy, it's all of and that's what people get,

0:50:56.600 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 7>you know. So I started enjoying that because that's like,

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 7>that's my ultimate goal in life, you know, Like I

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 7>know it sounds corny, but to change the world through love,

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 7>I know it's corny.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.240
<v Speaker 6>But I get a chance to do that here.

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 7>And then couple with the fact that I get to

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 7>be with my wife twenty four hours a day he

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 7>likes me, which is done Like that doesn't work for

0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 7>a lot of people, I guess, but that's that's really

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:24.880
<v Speaker 7>the biggest thing Michelle and I have in common is

0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 7>that we like to be around each other all the time,

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 7>like we like to be around each other all the time,

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 7>and this gives us the opportunity to do that. Because

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:35.320
<v Speaker 7>when I was younger, you know, I always knew I

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 7>wanted to be an entrepreneur, but I didn't. I didn't

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:39.440
<v Speaker 7>want to work hard enough to where I didn't have

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 7>enough time for my family, because it's for me, it's

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 7>family first always, because that's what makes me the most happiest.

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.400
<v Speaker 6>So this this gave but this gave me the opportunity.

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh wow, we could like be together

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 7>and build and rock out and you know, like show

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 7>the world with love is like and you know, like

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:01.320
<v Speaker 7>this is this is And then.

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 4>The classes, the classes were going really well. And then

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:08.360
<v Speaker 4>after we got married in twenty thirteen, we both we

0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 4>didn't really have a conversation, but we both were like, Okay,

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 4>well we'll be gone because we're not staying here exactly.

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:16.400
<v Speaker 4>We knew we didn't want to be in New York anymore.

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 4>So our members when we decided to move, first it

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 4>was La Then we decided to move to Atlanta, and

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 4>so our members were like, well where are you going,

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 4>and so like what are we going to do? And

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 4>so that's when we created Certification and part of the

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:37.360
<v Speaker 4>reasons in certification is so successful is because Sean and

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 4>I coming from different different perspectives during certification, I've been

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 4>jumping my whole life, so I don't really remember what

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 4>it's like not to know how to jump. And I

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:49.799
<v Speaker 4>also know how to transfer street jumpers into to teach

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 4>them double dutch aerobic style double dutch, because I know

0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 4>where they're coming from. Seawan is coming from not learning

0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 4>since he was a kid, so his perspective is different

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 4>in terms of how we teach those people. So combined,

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:06.879
<v Speaker 4>we're really able to relate to anybody that comes into

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 4>our classroom or into certification weekend. Now, to get back

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 4>to the whole pandemic, so I'm sorry we'd be gone

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 4>to a million tendents, but to get back to the

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:22.279
<v Speaker 4>whole pandemic life after, yeah, I was getting I was

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:27.359
<v Speaker 4>getting a little depressed after you know the excitement of Okay,

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 4>we're home, let's take advantage of that. I was getting

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 4>kind of like I don't know when this is really

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 4>going to be over, Like I couldn't see the ending,

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 4>and so that put me in a sad place, and

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:42.239
<v Speaker 4>being Sean's wife, I hate being that, like downer because

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 4>he's mister Happy, so it feels like, oh, oh, I'm

0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 4>being too sad for him, and he actually lost someone

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:53.240
<v Speaker 4>really close to him. So then I had guilt about

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:56.919
<v Speaker 4>being so down because he's the one that lost someone

0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:59.360
<v Speaker 4>really close to him, you know what I mean. So

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 4>it was like, Michelle, you got to pick yourself up

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 4>to be there for yourself and for your kids and

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 4>for your partner. So then I started to meditate. I

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 4>did the Abundance meditation. I started to journal more. I

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 4>had to like look outside of myself to get some

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 4>kind of you know what I mean, some kind of

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 4>hope or just out of the slump. And so what

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 4>happened after the minus meditation I like to relate to

0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:29.320
<v Speaker 4>minds meditation. We got we got the thing from Bill Gates.

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 6>We got to do well before that. So so that

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:34.800
<v Speaker 6>was October.

0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 7>So before that, the summer was ending, and I was like,

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 7>you know, Michelle, obviously it's you know, it's gonna get cold.

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 7>We can't continue to have classes. We need a studio.

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:48.839
<v Speaker 7>The thing was, how do we get a.

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Studio and how does the bank account because.

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 7>The way our bank account is, I don't know, I

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:55.879
<v Speaker 7>don't know if that's gonna work.

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:57.839
<v Speaker 6>But you don't, you know.

0:54:57.920 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 7>It's like we always say, you don't have to know

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 7>the how, you just got to know what you want.

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 7>And so I went online every single day. I was

0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 7>online for hours, right hours, looking at places. I was like, okay, this,

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 7>you know, because for us, a studio is very specific.

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 7>You know, we need we need a lot, we need

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 7>super high ceilings, we need, you know, the space to

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<v Speaker 7>be a certain side. It's like it's just a whole

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<v Speaker 7>lot because and then the floors, we can't turn on

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<v Speaker 7>any floor, so it's just it's a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 4>And while he's looking for the studio, mind you, this

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<v Speaker 4>is what I learned after being with him for twelve years.

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 4>We call Sean the visionary. Sometimes he sees things and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what the mother, what are you talking about?

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 4>How are we gonna get a studio? What are you

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 4>talking about? But I learned, being his partner, not to

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<v Speaker 4>do that anymore because some of the things he sees

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 4>has come into fruition. Even when I didn't believe.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, just let me go, let me go. Put me in.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach's writing in my diary like my husband is crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>But bab I got you back like the Jackie looking

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<v Speaker 4>at a studio. Okay, we're gonna get it. So we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 7>So we actually looked at maybe two other studios before

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<v Speaker 7>this one actually went around the corner from where we

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<v Speaker 7>are now, and then I came to this studio that

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.840
<v Speaker 7>we're at now by myself. The minute I walked in,

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 7>I said, Oh, this is it, and Michelle is gonna

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<v Speaker 7>like it. Now that's very important because Michelle and I

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 7>we don't agree on a lot of things.

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:25.360
<v Speaker 4>No we don't.

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 6>I mean we we agree on a lot. We agree

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<v Speaker 6>on most things, but there are there are things like

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<v Speaker 6>a studio.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's still a Leo, so he's stubborn.

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but we're both Leo's so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know she didn't know, he said, tried it because we're

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:41.040
<v Speaker 2>both the same, right.

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<v Speaker 7>So I walked into the studio. I was like, Oh,

0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 7>Michelle is gonna love it. I literally I drove home,

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 7>picked up I called that s Michelle. I found a studio.

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:52.239
<v Speaker 7>I know you're gonna like it. Here's the price, this

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<v Speaker 7>is what it is. I'm coming to get you. I

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<v Speaker 7>got Michelle. She walked into the studio. She was like,

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<v Speaker 7>that's it.

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.640
<v Speaker 6>We're both like immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>And here's here's where faith comes in, because after doing

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 4>the medicale sometimes meditations and journalis helps you see the

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.760
<v Speaker 4>clear picture. Like if you're still living, there's always hoping,

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. And sometime if you let

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:17.680
<v Speaker 4>things get you down, you'll start to lose that perspective.

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 4>So you got to straighten yourself out. So I was

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<v Speaker 4>starting to have faith again, you know what I mean.

0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 4>And so we looked at the studio. We met the

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 4>landlord and this is crazy stuff. We had looked at

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 4>some hood spots, you know what I'm saying, because we

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:36.400
<v Speaker 4>were just looking and they was asking for every bit

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 4>of paperwork. I'm talking about what I did when I

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<v Speaker 4>was two, you know, like just paper, paper, paper, paper, right,

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 4>So we made this amazing landlord and he was like,

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:55.440
<v Speaker 4>what's your name? Did he ask for? I don't even know?

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<v Speaker 4>Like you guys, It's like, okay, well we like you,

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 4>all right, let's sign the papers.

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't look at any financial no, no financials.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this when you guys did that? I know you

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<v Speaker 3>did a kickstart because I canute.

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:12.920
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, we're gonna oh, we're about to mention that.

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 6>Wait a minute, old, look we.

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<v Speaker 4>Inspire by Molly Moore, because I was like, listen a

0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 4>bunch of mesdag And I even asked you I had

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 4>d m D and asked you were like, because I

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 4>knew you stuck. You don't do nothing by the fly,

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know. I had study for like three months before.

0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 4>When you said that, I was like, Sean, we have

0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 4>to like, well, because Sean didn't want to do a

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 4>kickstock Well.

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<v Speaker 7>The thing was so my cousin he's a filmmaker and

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<v Speaker 7>he does like go fund me all the time.

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 6>And I thought about it, but I was like, nah,

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 6>I can't do it. I don't. I don't have it

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 6>in me to ask people. I can't. I can't. I

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<v Speaker 6>can't do it.

0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 7>And it's stuff talking about it. There's nothing wrong with me,

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:51.960
<v Speaker 7>but it's it's nothing. I'm sorry, it's nothing wrong with it.

0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:54.919
<v Speaker 7>It's just that with anything in life. I always try

0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 7>to find a way to figure it out. Like I'm like,

0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:00.440
<v Speaker 7>all right, if we don't have it, let me out

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:01.240
<v Speaker 7>a way to do it.

0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:02.800
<v Speaker 6>But that was the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is where his wife comes in. His wife

0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:07.920
<v Speaker 4>said all right, babe, okay, you got to you got

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 4>to be a little more realistic, less ask our community.

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:13.960
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? A pandemic happened. It's not

0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 4>like we were irresponsible, you know what I mean? Like

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 4>it's it's different just to just.

0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>To jump in really quick. It's hurt y'all. Y'all are

0:59:22.760 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like a conversational double dutch. And I was just like

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 1>when when am I supposed to anyway?

0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 4>But y'all mention change?

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:32.400
<v Speaker 1>So the kickstarter, y'all did this to raise money for

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the business.

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:33.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:39.840
<v Speaker 1>So ready question I have I so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know about the kickstarter, but I also want to know

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 1>we're y'all able to get any of the government fundings.

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I know there was so much drama and confusion for

0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:50.640
<v Speaker 1>small business owners around the paycheck Protection Program and the

0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Economic Disaster Relief program. Did any of that come in

0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:57.040
<v Speaker 1>handy for y'all? Or was it immediately that y'all knew

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<v Speaker 1>you had to, you know, do a kickstarter to get

0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 1>money your own.

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<v Speaker 4>We filled out every of those yo, Michelle, check this out?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh check this out? Yo? No no, no, no, not

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<v Speaker 4>you guys, No, no, no, really, any of them and

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<v Speaker 4>we filled out how many you? Oh my god, we

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<v Speaker 4>didn't get none of them. So we had gotten the

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<v Speaker 4>space and he everything worked out, the paperwork, everything was perfect,

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<v Speaker 4>but mind you, it was just a space. So we

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<v Speaker 4>needed we needed more to make the space double Dutch aerobics,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. And so that's when at

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<v Speaker 4>first Sean was saying no, and I was like, let's

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<v Speaker 4>let's do this, and finally he said yes. And then

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<v Speaker 4>to me he put together the best video. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was fabulous, so no, it was good. So he

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<v Speaker 4>put together a video and it made us very emotional

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<v Speaker 4>because watching people support us when we know that everyone

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<v Speaker 4>was having a hard time. Goodness, am I just like

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<v Speaker 4>the but needs to said Tiffany, you Tiffany right? We right,

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<v Speaker 4>We studied, so showing us up, we started to watch

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<v Speaker 4>all the videos.

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<v Speaker 6>I watched a thousand videos.

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<v Speaker 4>How long should it be? How much you asked for?

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<v Speaker 4>We looked at zillions of zillions of Kickstarter campaigns.

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<v Speaker 6>Like one, what should what shouldn't be in it? You

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<v Speaker 6>know what you.

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<v Speaker 4>Should put in your bio? It took us. We pulled

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<v Speaker 4>all nighters. We pulled all nighters doing it, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we put it up and we prayed and we send

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<v Speaker 4>it out to our We send it out to people,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was very emotional because he didn't expect as

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<v Speaker 4>much love as we got, and it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>people really care about us.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I mean, like, oh my god, I mean

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<v Speaker 7>even the people who never met us before ever in

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<v Speaker 7>light right, they were donating to our kickstarter and I

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<v Speaker 7>was just it really was emotional.

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<v Speaker 4>It really was emotional at that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially it sounds like Sean, you had a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of trouble getting over having to ask for help in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I relate to that in a big way. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's that moment when you you're you're just afraid

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<v Speaker 1>that it might it might not happen, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it must be humbling when you finally get that, when

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<v Speaker 1>you see that you will get it in return, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you've been giving for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was it?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the outcome did you guys make I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I know you made it, but like much more than

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<v Speaker 3>you asked for?

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<v Speaker 4>What was we doubles?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so you initially we asked for ten and then

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<v Speaker 7>what happened twenty? Yeah, we got twenty I think it

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<v Speaker 7>was twenty one thousand over twenty one twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Four hundred dollars. I'm on the page right now.

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<v Speaker 4>From two hundred and eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>If two and eighty five beckers. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>That was so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So that gave you the money that you needed to

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<v Speaker 1>put up the big mirror, get the ropes like all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yes, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The mirrors are not those mirrors are not cheap.

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking for one.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking just for like a tiny one for

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<v Speaker 1>my little peloton, you know, nook, and uh yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>And yes, And what's so fun is so we opened

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<v Speaker 4>in September and we weren't gonna wait, so we did

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<v Speaker 4>the studio because hello, the pandemic still knocked us out right,

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<v Speaker 4>So we started with the studio white, and we used

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<v Speaker 4>to say, so this is where the mirror is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we would tell we would tell us face the

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<v Speaker 7>imaginary mirror.

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<v Speaker 4>And so what's so fun is that they got to

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<v Speaker 4>watch us grow from like a white studio to what

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<v Speaker 4>the studio is now. And it's still and it's still growing,

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<v Speaker 4>like we just got our nice little bitch. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>so cute, y'all. You know, the studio was painting. Now

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<v Speaker 4>we got the words up, we got signs, we got

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<v Speaker 4>our desks, you know what I mean. So it's fun

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<v Speaker 4>because when they come and they're like, oh, yes, oh

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<v Speaker 4>you got that. So they get to actually watch us

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<v Speaker 4>and just the process.

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<v Speaker 7>Just to watch, like you know, new people come in

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<v Speaker 7>and they're blown away by the studio. They really love

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<v Speaker 7>the studio because outside of teaching our classes, we rent

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<v Speaker 7>out our studio.

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<v Speaker 6>That's smart to other people. They love this studio.

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<v Speaker 7>They love it and so and that and that, and

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<v Speaker 7>that's important to us because I felt like we had

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<v Speaker 7>a responsibility. You know, you guys gave us twenty one

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<v Speaker 7>thousand dollars. No, this is going to be the best

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<v Speaker 7>studio in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you know, because.

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<v Speaker 4>People trusted you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean, let me ask this, what is the

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<v Speaker 3>what is your like ten twenty year plan, like what

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what's your big bull dream for Double Dutcho.

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<v Speaker 2>But what can you see it becoming?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, so there are a couple of things, right, we

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<v Speaker 7>definitely want other studios in other cities. So we already

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<v Speaker 7>have the cities in mind that we that we want,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, Double Cherobics, like you know, Chicago and DC.

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<v Speaker 7>And then also to to grow out, like to to

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<v Speaker 7>certify more people across the country.

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<v Speaker 4>So that Double Dutch robis is accessible in every state.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not just you don't have to travel to

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<v Speaker 4>get to us, right or to get to a Double

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<v Speaker 4>Dutch arobics class. It's like as available as spin classes

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<v Speaker 4>or you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, so just really create like as far as

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<v Speaker 7>like certification too. I just wanted to add that Double

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<v Speaker 7>Dutch aerobics is a formatic class, right, so it's kind

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<v Speaker 7>of like uh billgrim yoga with the twenty six twenty

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<v Speaker 7>six postures.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's like eleven steps to our program.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that we do every single day, every single class,

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<v Speaker 7>and so that's what we teach in our certification. And

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<v Speaker 7>so basically, like Michelle said, if you're in DC, the

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<v Speaker 7>class is going to be exactly like the class in

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<v Speaker 7>New York or Atlanta or Detroit, you know some of

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<v Speaker 7>the places where we want Double 't Aerobics to be.

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<v Speaker 7>And so that's the goal to to certify more people.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's funny, you know, this whole subject was like

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<v Speaker 4>how did we survivedurund our pandemic and we're still recovering

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<v Speaker 4>from the pandemic. Right, so where, But it feels like

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<v Speaker 4>the other side is is we're on the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're getting over the hump, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And now it's like when I think about when I

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<v Speaker 4>was thinking, oh my god, this is over, I think

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that got us through is that we kept

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<v Speaker 4>hope and that we kept moving. So now on the

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<v Speaker 4>other side, I feel like we're going to be even

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<v Speaker 4>bigger than we were because we have a space now

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<v Speaker 4>that gives us access to do more than we were

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<v Speaker 4>doing in the beginning of twenty twenty. And it's like

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<v Speaker 4>that was our biggest year, but now through the sadness

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<v Speaker 4>and through all the you know, the knockout that happened,

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna be bigger. On the other side of it

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<v Speaker 4>was we kept pushing through.

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<v Speaker 7>And then also just simply getting through a pandemic being

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<v Speaker 7>a fitness brand makes you a whole lot stronger, right,

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<v Speaker 7>so everything else seems like a breeze.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you got through a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 7>And then you know, at the top of the year,

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<v Speaker 7>Michelle gets a commercial, right, oh I did.

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<v Speaker 4>Then this meditation again, so he gets matter because I'd

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<v Speaker 4>be like I told you to bringing magic right.

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<v Speaker 3>Where where can we find this meditation, It's like they

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<v Speaker 3>know what's the cra prayer to get you a run?

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<v Speaker 4>So zpop Chopra's abundance meditation comes at you sow. The

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<v Speaker 4>first time we did it, we got a random call. First,

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<v Speaker 4>Seawan said, no, we're supposed to a favor for We're

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to a favor for somebody. He was like, mich,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if we could film it yet. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>we're supposed to film some audition video. We was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll film it. We filmed. We didn't know what it

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<v Speaker 4>was for.

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<v Speaker 6>We had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>What idea? Then they're like, you're chosen, wait, chosen for?

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<v Speaker 4>What what do you mean what?

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<v Speaker 6>They just like, we didn't, we didn't know what it

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<v Speaker 6>was for.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they were like, we gotta fly you to New York.

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<v Speaker 4>I said'm not bringing these to here to New York.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm tired. We're not going to So then they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>well we'll come to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what and you still don't know who's coming?

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<v Speaker 4>And we still don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Is the question? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, we didn't know who coming.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you said we're not going to New York,

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<v Speaker 3>they still didn't tell you who was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>No, like what it was for.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, wow, because we had to we have we have

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<v Speaker 4>a fort well he was three at the time for

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<v Speaker 4>three year old and uh.

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<v Speaker 7>You see like that were production if you if when

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<v Speaker 7>you when you're auditioned it for like television shows and movies,

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<v Speaker 7>you never really know like the real title of the

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<v Speaker 7>movie because they probably don't even yet.

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<v Speaker 6>But so yeah, that's that, that's what was happening.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what was happen.

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<v Speaker 6>You didn't know what we were auditioning.

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<v Speaker 4>What we were auditioning for, and so they said, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>come to you. So it was okay, well, we gotta deal.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we didn't find out who it was a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of days before the shoot. And so what happened

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<v Speaker 4>was called it was called meal time conversations. Uh. Bill

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<v Speaker 4>Gates was interviewing families to see how they were over

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<v Speaker 4>meal time. So we ended up having a meal with

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<v Speaker 4>my parents. They filmed it in their house and then

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<v Speaker 4>they just told our story of the pandemic and they

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<v Speaker 4>paid us, which helped, right, And it was so random.

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<v Speaker 2>It was with you had like virtual dinner with Bill Gates.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, we filmed, they filmed and it was for

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<v Speaker 4>their their foundation, like it was they did. It was

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<v Speaker 4>really interesting the families around the world.

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<v Speaker 7>So we represented the United States, we represented wow here

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<v Speaker 7>uh huh. And so they had Yeah, they have people,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, from families from other countries, and everybody told

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<v Speaker 7>their story.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, from the pandemic, from the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, is this y'all the Walker and Clark families.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know I'm here on the Googles just in

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<v Speaker 1>the background, getting on the links ready, Well, just to

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<v Speaker 1>round out the conversation, I wanted to just from my

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<v Speaker 1>you know, listening to y'all story, it's so inspirational and

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<v Speaker 1>I think so universal. You know, not everybody owns a

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<v Speaker 1>double Dutch studio. It sound like y'all are the only ones,

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<v Speaker 1>but everybody, you know, if you're still standing today, you

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<v Speaker 1>had to make it through the pandemic in some way

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<v Speaker 1>or fashion. And the one thing that I've been like

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<v Speaker 1>hearing in y'all story is how many different streams of

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<v Speaker 1>income y'all have. Y'all have managed to squeeze out of

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<v Speaker 1>this business, which I think is so smart and probably

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<v Speaker 1>a huge reason why you've been able to survive. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm counting, like, I don't know how many, at least five.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like you got the ropes that you're selling

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<v Speaker 1>the classes themselves, outdoor classes, teaching certifications. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you're still on your grind when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment opportunities. That's I mean, can you talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that diversification, just you know what, what reflecting besides

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<v Speaker 1>the abundance meditation on what made y'all such a resilient

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<v Speaker 1>business in the face of such a huge challenge.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think I think it was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was even before the pandemic, we knew the potential

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<v Speaker 7>of the business. I think that's what made us so

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<v Speaker 7>excited in the beginning because we were like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 7>could do this.

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<v Speaker 6>We could Oh we.

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<v Speaker 7>Could teach after school programs and you know, summer camps.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh man, we could do team building events, we could

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<v Speaker 7>do corporate events. Like we just kept going and going

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<v Speaker 7>and there were so many possibilities. And then even during class,

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<v Speaker 7>like after class, people will come to us with ideas, right,

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<v Speaker 7>they're like, you know what, you guys should That happens

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<v Speaker 7>all the time. And when you talk about like stream

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<v Speaker 7>of revenue, right, it's like this. It's a good problem.

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<v Speaker 7>But there's so many different avenues we can take with

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<v Speaker 7>double Dutch aerobics.

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<v Speaker 4>And we even started two things we also did this year.

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<v Speaker 4>We got pregnant. I don't know how that happened, but

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<v Speaker 4>we got pregnant maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Number three yeah, wow, oh my goodness, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. So we actually got uh commercial, the Apple commercial.

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<v Speaker 4>That was another source. Now, something that we do too

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<v Speaker 4>is so you ever see big long lines and people

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<v Speaker 4>they're not doing anything, but it's just on their phones.

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<v Speaker 4>So Slutty began was having a what was it. It

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't a grand opening, it was an event. They were

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<v Speaker 4>given out free yeah, someone sponsored her, and they were

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<v Speaker 4>given out free burgers during the pandemic to everybody. So

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<v Speaker 4>all you had to do was get online. The line

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<v Speaker 4>was eight million years long, and so Sean was like,

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<v Speaker 4>let's go and turn and so we end up turning

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<v Speaker 4>there meeting everybody, and it's just like we realize how

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<v Speaker 4>much joy even in just all those environments, how much

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<v Speaker 4>joy because we can teach anyone in less than a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>how much joy that brings everywhere. And what was cool

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<v Speaker 4>about that is Pinky got to see us do that

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<v Speaker 4>and then she recently referred us for the Shakeshack event

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<v Speaker 4>and it was a success. They are meaning sometimes we

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<v Speaker 4>see things like at grand openings that whatever people are

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<v Speaker 4>just I guess standing just gathered is also good to

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<v Speaker 4>have because it allows people to a communicate while they're standing.

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<v Speaker 4>So people are they start talking, right, we start it's just.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so yeah, I mean and so yeah, just just

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<v Speaker 7>going back to basically, we knew before the potential businessiness

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<v Speaker 7>had yes, and so when it was time to activate it, right,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I eat the pandemic, we were like, all right,

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<v Speaker 7>so now we could do this.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh we can't we can't teach out.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, we can't teach at an event, but we

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<v Speaker 7>could sell ropes because people at home, you know, we

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<v Speaker 7>could sell I mean the ropes were flying off the shelf.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you know. So it was like, all right, let

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<v Speaker 6>me learn the stock market.

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<v Speaker 7>Like we just we just I don't know, we just

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<v Speaker 7>knew what we can do, and we just, like I said,

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<v Speaker 7>we just activated it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's you know, that's what we did.

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<v Speaker 4>And then also something that Sean and I do, we're

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<v Speaker 4>constantly looking for inspiration, Like even Tiffany, I always watch

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<v Speaker 4>your lives and you're you're you're so inspirational or just

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<v Speaker 4>how even like I was just telling my mother how

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<v Speaker 4>you said you had to go back home and you

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<v Speaker 4>were in your middle middle school room and you were like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is not you know what I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 4>more money when I was in middle school. Meaning even

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<v Speaker 4>in a down time. It's just like what I realized

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<v Speaker 4>with people who are successful is it's not the environment

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<v Speaker 4>or it's not what happens to them, it's who they are.

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<v Speaker 4>Right So even through going through that, you found your

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<v Speaker 4>way out of it and to make success. And if

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<v Speaker 4>you hear, we constantly watch people's success stories because the

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<v Speaker 4>one thing that's always true is that they're successful. Right

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<v Speaker 4>So they may have a time of being down, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's like that can't define you. You have to still

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a winner always wins.

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<v Speaker 6>I do know you said it. So it's it's the person.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like if you took all the Bill Gates money today,

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<v Speaker 7>he would make a billion dollars again next month, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>because he just he can do it. Same thing with TIV.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, if if we if we took all your

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<v Speaker 7>money today right right right now, don't make it.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't make her.

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<v Speaker 7>Today you you now have the tools to get it

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<v Speaker 7>right back to you. It's yeah, Michelle and I we

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<v Speaker 7>talk about that. We talk about this all the time. Actually,

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<v Speaker 7>it's you, it's the person.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's the mortality, right. So that's why I was biggest.

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<v Speaker 4>My biggest thing is it's not only the meditation, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's making sure that while bad things happen, I still

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<v Speaker 4>have to be up, you know what I mean, because.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't you can't control the events that happened in

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<v Speaker 7>your life.

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<v Speaker 4>You can and control the way you.

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<v Speaker 6>Deal with it. And so that's that's the biggest part

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<v Speaker 6>of it. That's that's what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It's being resourceful so that we can The reason why

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<v Speaker 4>we can make double ut your role bits successful is

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<v Speaker 4>because our goal is to become resourceful, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. The reason the reason you can make budgeting

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<v Speaker 4>so you know what I mean, the budgetista, is because

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<v Speaker 4>you are a resourceful person. And so once you are resourceful,

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<v Speaker 4>you can turn almost anything you love into success. You understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I always think that, Like, like the weekend

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<v Speaker 3>before last night, told my sister come drive with me

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<v Speaker 3>through some of these fancy neighborhoods where every house is

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<v Speaker 3>a million dollars plus, I said, because within five years

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be in one of these. Yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean like I could be in one now, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want a mortgage. I'm talking about in it

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<v Speaker 3>like here's the money boom. It's nothing, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>so because one of the things I learned, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is just for anyone listening, is that it's like it's

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<v Speaker 3>this this thing that almost every like African parent tells

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<v Speaker 3>their kid when you bring home a B and you

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<v Speaker 3>tell them that somebody else in class got an A.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, Ah, so does she have two heads?

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<v Speaker 3>Meaning like, if a's were being given, why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>have one? The only explanation that you could have for

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<v Speaker 3>not getting an A when someone else is able to

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<v Speaker 3>get a is that person must have two heads, therefore

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<v Speaker 3>two brains.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore, okay, she got you on that.

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<v Speaker 3>But so I drive, I drive through those neighborhoods because

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<v Speaker 3>I am resetting my expectation of like, yo, there's not

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<v Speaker 3>one house here, two house. There's like fifty houses in

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<v Speaker 3>just this one neighborhood, and then another fifty another neighborhood another,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning yo, there are people who make enough to make

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<v Speaker 3>this life happen? What about you? What's so special about them?

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<v Speaker 3>What is so special? And this is nothing exactly and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a little bit of people were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>just this one neighborhood here, and then you go another

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<v Speaker 3>town over, and then another town in another state and

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<v Speaker 3>another There are so many people that are successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not you do they have two heads? No? No,

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<v Speaker 2>they figured it out. Now you got to do that

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<v Speaker 2>to your children. They'd be like, Sean Junior is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like, I gotta b a b.

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<v Speaker 3>Would anybody get a do that have two head?

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<v Speaker 6>For?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very African thing to say, But I say

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<v Speaker 3>that to say that basically that you are human. Therefore

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<v Speaker 3>what is accessible to one human is there is great

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<v Speaker 3>potential for it to also be accessible to you. And

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<v Speaker 3>we all understand that there are limitations and racism and

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<v Speaker 3>and and sexism, and we know that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we also know that people find a way. And if

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<v Speaker 3>one person has found a way, that is that is

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<v Speaker 3>cause for for celebration because that means the way has

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<v Speaker 3>been found.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye you know you too can have access to that.

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<v Speaker 3>So once you start to understand that, then there's nothing

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're not talking about. You go into the

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<v Speaker 3>moon for the first time. Those people have to figure

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<v Speaker 3>it out from scratch. You know, we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 3>that like when people say, oh, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>to invest. I'm like, you know, people don't figured it

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<v Speaker 3>out and wrote books and do YouTube videos about.

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<v Speaker 4>It YouTube you know right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, like you know, you know, people have successful businesses.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people have podcasts at work and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so there are folks that have figured it out. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm so glad that you came on today because

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<v Speaker 3>it's I think it's important for our audience to hear

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<v Speaker 3>that there are so many ways to express success in business.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm sure people thought a business based upon

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<v Speaker 3>double Dutch, how's that gonna work? And now you're over

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<v Speaker 3>here laying it it can work, you know, like a

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<v Speaker 3>business based upon budgeting what and now here we are

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<v Speaker 3>And so like, I hope those of you who are

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<v Speaker 3>you know, BA fan that's listening you get to see

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<v Speaker 3>that it is possible to grow a business from just

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<v Speaker 3>about any idea. It's possible to do so while still

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<v Speaker 3>having this amazing family. You hear the joy they have

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<v Speaker 3>speaking with each other and connecting and staying connected. It

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<v Speaker 3>is possible to do so with children, because how old

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<v Speaker 3>is your oldest baby?

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<v Speaker 4>Four?

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<v Speaker 2>Five four child? Cheez?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like cause I know people are like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a baby, Okay, you know it is possible

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<v Speaker 3>to do those things.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say it's easy, because I know it's

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<v Speaker 2>not easy. No, you know, we're talking about possible. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about possible, but not easy.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, So we just want to thank you for,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, illustrating like even the hard like you

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<v Speaker 3>still here to join you guys's voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that that, Like you know, these lessons taught you.

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<v Speaker 3>Some valuable lessons that you learned to be resourceful, just

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<v Speaker 3>like as you said, Michelle, and you learned that like

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<v Speaker 3>to pivot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was a huge lesson learned here.

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<v Speaker 3>And you learn to also that if you really believe

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<v Speaker 3>in your idea, you'll find a way and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean that you might not take a step back.

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<v Speaker 2>And also too, you learn to ask for help.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so all those things combined, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>consistency and not giving up, you know, resulting where you

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<v Speaker 3>are now and now that we're coming out on the

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<v Speaker 3>other side, it's only bigger, bigger and better for y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited for.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all, and that's consistency. I just want to stay warm.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing just as a reminder, is there when we first started,

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<v Speaker 4>we had empty classes and Sean would look at me

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<v Speaker 4>and be like, because I'd be like, maybe it's not going.

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<v Speaker 6>To work, and I would be like, isn't this amazing?

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<v Speaker 6>Isn't this an amazing idea? This is gonna work?

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<v Speaker 7>Because the thing is, I realized that it's not because

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<v Speaker 7>we didn't have a good idea. It's just we're not

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<v Speaker 7>promoting it right, So we just have to fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to call that illustrating your Oprah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but for real, when I used to like, is it.

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<v Speaker 4>A good idea?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I was like, no, no, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>good idea. If someone doesn't want to pay me, I

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<v Speaker 3>have not illustrated my Oprah. Meaning if Oprah, if we've

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<v Speaker 3>got a call right now and Oprah said I will

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<v Speaker 3>do a one on one with y'all, but I need

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<v Speaker 3>ten thousand dollars. You have ten ten hours to come

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<v Speaker 3>up with it. We will come up with that money

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<v Speaker 3>so fast because we're like child.

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<v Speaker 2>Che is Oprah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Oprah's value is so clear that we will find

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<v Speaker 3>the funds. And so if someone's not willing to pay

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<v Speaker 3>me just yet, I have not illustrated my value, and

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<v Speaker 3>definitely that they will find the funds because now I've

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<v Speaker 3>illustrated my oprah. So when I tell somebody, oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>my keynote is forty thousand, they find the funds, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, because it's very easy to say, well, my idea

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<v Speaker 3>is not good or it's not the right market or time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's likely you just have not illustrated your

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<v Speaker 3>open and that's.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, yes it is, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Just got to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you make it that your value is so

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<v Speaker 3>clear that people will find the fund just to have you.

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<v Speaker 6>In the room, because it took took it took them

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<v Speaker 6>a little while to respect us.

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<v Speaker 4>I got cursed out charging people for double Dutch. This

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<v Speaker 4>man cursed me out. He wanted us to come out

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<v Speaker 4>to his event. Oh he cursed me out. What is

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm taking advantage? I said, certain, you can have

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<v Speaker 4>ropes there. I didn't say you couldn't have rope if

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<v Speaker 4>you want me to physically show up and show my expertise.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want me and my husband to show up

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<v Speaker 4>for a specific time and date and to literally do

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<v Speaker 4>what we do, you have to pay us. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>exclude you from Double You want us there because you

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<v Speaker 4>saw what we do.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was Michelle was a little bothered by him,

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<v Speaker 7>but but I was upset that she was upset.

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<v Speaker 6>I was thinking, why why are you letting this stranger

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<v Speaker 6>get you so upset? We know, we know our worst,

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<v Speaker 6>our worst, we know our value, and.

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<v Speaker 4>That's It's like you think Kevin Hard to come and

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<v Speaker 4>tell jokes, but jokes at the party stops. You want

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin Hart to come and tell you jokes.

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<v Speaker 6>But the thing is, though, like, like, I get it.

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<v Speaker 7>I get why because you know, Double Dutch has been

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<v Speaker 7>free for one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, people you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know stopped the telephone truck, got the wires, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and jumped outside to the till the street lights came on.

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<v Speaker 6>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm a world champion.

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<v Speaker 7>But the thing is, when Michelle and I come to

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<v Speaker 7>your event, if there's a million people at your event,

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<v Speaker 7>a million people will be jumping.

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<v Speaker 6>Which is different, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like we because we could teach anybody how

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<v Speaker 7>to jump, right so that's the thing. So like, if

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<v Speaker 7>you know, if you want our expertise, then you have

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<v Speaker 7>to pay us. But it's it was really simple for me.

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<v Speaker 7>I couldn't even understand why because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard because you know, you feel you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to feel like, wow, am I what if that say

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<v Speaker 3>about me?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we tend to internal life with people. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>It just means I'm okay now because I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it took me a while too, because Mitchelle I would

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<v Speaker 3>have cried like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, am I right?

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<v Speaker 3>Because mean, if they could google budgeting, I said, well

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<v Speaker 3>then why don't they like even now what? It took

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<v Speaker 3>me a whild girl, It's like year twelve for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I not bothered.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>When someone hits me back and says that's too expensive,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, okay, okay for you because I just

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<v Speaker 3>got paid that last week. But okay, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's the thing. I give a lot away for free.

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<v Speaker 2>You could.

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<v Speaker 3>I do lives, I have social posts, we've got emails,

1:25:55.280 --> 1:25:57.479
<v Speaker 3>We've got you can. You can partake in all the

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<v Speaker 3>free because I do believe in, you know, providing service

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<v Speaker 3>to my community.

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<v Speaker 2>But no if you're wanting, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>A specific service that I charged for, that's what the cost.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you don't have the budget, and that's okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it just me you have to find somebody that fits

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<v Speaker 3>within that budget. Because it's so funny when you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you first start, nobody wants to you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>nobody wants to take you on the moment you blow up.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you want to you want to pay me.

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<v Speaker 3>The first starting budget, like you you called me for

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<v Speaker 3>a reason, right, you know, you hit me up because

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<v Speaker 3>you saw the New York Times best SELLI did you

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<v Speaker 3>think that was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think that was gonna come for nothing?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, but we can talk for everybody, Mandy, any

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<v Speaker 3>any final things you want to see with our Yes, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is just thank you. Yeah, thirty minutes, say go, I

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<v Speaker 1>bought the ropes. I can't wait, and I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even not I didn't even know double dutch

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<v Speaker 1>was a thing you could become a world champion and

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it's a sport. I love that. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank y'all, thank you, thank you so much for sharing

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<v Speaker 1>your story and sharing your energy and your your truth

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<v Speaker 1>because y'all were honest about the ups and downs, and

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate that. I think our I hope our audience

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<v Speaker 1>loves this conversation as much as as much as I did.

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<v Speaker 6>I thank you, oh, thank you people.

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<v Speaker 1>Find y'all ware. Now, where's the best place to find

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<v Speaker 1>everything people need to know about Double Dutch?

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<v Speaker 4>Find on Instagram, Double Dutch Aerobics, Facebook, Double Dutch Aerobics.

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<v Speaker 4>If you forget everything, you can google Double Dutch Aerobics

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<v Speaker 4>and find us everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I got that SEO game on point. Very good to know. Yes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank y'all so so much. We can't wait to hear

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<v Speaker 1>more from Double Dutch Aerobics. Thank y'all, Sean and Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you amazing. I feel so warm and fuzzy. Happy holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>BA fan, thank you for joining us as we looked

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<v Speaker 1>back at some of our favorite Brown Ambition conversations from

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<v Speaker 1>the past year. Check back in with as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>we take on a brand new year and bring you

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<v Speaker 1>everything you need to know so you can take control

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<v Speaker 1>of your financial and professional future on your own terms.